Oscar hopes for cash boost

The Argus: Oscar Garcia Oscar Garcia

Albion boss Oscar Garcia could be handed extra funds by chairman Tony Bloom from an FA Cup run for the January transfer window.

The Seagulls face Championship rivals Reading in the third round at The Amex today.

The fourth round is played before the window closes at the end of the month, giving Oscar an added incentive to guide his team into tomorrow’s draw and a possible moneyspinning tie.

Oscar revealed to The Argus earlier this week concerns about Financial Fair Play considerations affecting his hopes of re-signing former loan winger Craig Conway from Cardiff.

The head coach’s assistant, Nathan Jones, told The Argus: “If we go on a run and earn any more money I’m sure any club in the land would appreciate that. We’ve got a fantastic chairman here who runs the club fantastically well, so I'm sure a Cup run would help that.

“I’m not saying it’s a Cup run to survive – we are not in those days any more – but it would be fantastic for the club, for the fans, for the town again to have a good run in the FA cup, to draw someone, have an element of romance or giantkilling.”

Albion completed the £2 million signing of Leo Ulloa from Almeria in-between last season's third round victory at home to Newcastle and Arsenal's fourth round win at The Amex.

Ulloa scored twice on his comeback from nearly three months out with a fractured foot bone at Charlton on Boxing Day but missed chances in the first half of the 1-1 home draw against Bournemouth on New Year's Day.

Jones said: "Hopefully the more Leo is playing now the more he'll get back to being himself. He's come back and he has scored two already. He hit the post the other day against Blackpool. He's getting chances, which is the pleasing thing."

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5:45am Sat 4 Jan 14

WestStander17 says...

That last bit seems to suggest Leo will play today then.

Would like to see Orlandi get some game time as long as he came through his Bournemouth cameo ok.

An experimental but strong line-up as follows would suit me...

Kuszczak; Calderon, El Abd, Upson, Chicksen; Ince or Bridcutt, JFC, Orlandi; Lua Lua, Barnes; Ulloa.

And looking to bring on March and possibly Dunk (although CBs are tricky to swap) for some minutes too. Orlandi, Lua Lua and Ulloa are probably the most important to protect at this moment in time.

Anyway, we'll see. Whoever plays and whatever happens, lets make some NOISE!!!
That last bit seems to suggest Leo will play today then. Would like to see Orlandi get some game time as long as he came through his Bournemouth cameo ok. An experimental but strong line-up as follows would suit me... Kuszczak; Calderon, El Abd, Upson, Chicksen; Ince or Bridcutt, JFC, Orlandi; Lua Lua, Barnes; Ulloa. And looking to bring on March and possibly Dunk (although CBs are tricky to swap) for some minutes too. Orlandi, Lua Lua and Ulloa are probably the most important to protect at this moment in time. Anyway, we'll see. Whoever plays and whatever happens, lets make some NOISE!!! WestStander17

6:17am Sat 4 Jan 14

Albion In Staffs says...

WestStander17 wrote:
That last bit seems to suggest Leo will play today then.

Would like to see Orlandi get some game time as long as he came through his Bournemouth cameo ok.

An experimental but strong line-up as follows would suit me...

Kuszczak; Calderon, El Abd, Upson, Chicksen; Ince or Bridcutt, JFC, Orlandi; Lua Lua, Barnes; Ulloa.

And looking to bring on March and possibly Dunk (although CBs are tricky to swap) for some minutes too. Orlandi, Lua Lua and Ulloa are probably the most important to protect at this moment in time.

Anyway, we'll see. Whoever plays and whatever happens, lets make some NOISE!!!
This is highly irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, but it's daft The Argus have published a story with a headline supported by quotes purely from Nathan. No reference to what OG actually thinks other than a brief confirmation he's concerned about FFP which sort of contradicts what Jones is saying.
Not only that, but the "hope" appears to be nothing more than Nathan putting two and two together while keeping his fingers crossed.
There's no evidence that TB is ready to do as suggested, so I'm not holding my breath.
[quote][p][bold]WestStander17[/bold] wrote: That last bit seems to suggest Leo will play today then. Would like to see Orlandi get some game time as long as he came through his Bournemouth cameo ok. An experimental but strong line-up as follows would suit me... Kuszczak; Calderon, El Abd, Upson, Chicksen; Ince or Bridcutt, JFC, Orlandi; Lua Lua, Barnes; Ulloa. And looking to bring on March and possibly Dunk (although CBs are tricky to swap) for some minutes too. Orlandi, Lua Lua and Ulloa are probably the most important to protect at this moment in time. Anyway, we'll see. Whoever plays and whatever happens, lets make some NOISE!!![/p][/quote]This is highly irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, but it's daft The Argus have published a story with a headline supported by quotes purely from Nathan. No reference to what OG actually thinks other than a brief confirmation he's concerned about FFP which sort of contradicts what Jones is saying. Not only that, but the "hope" appears to be nothing more than Nathan putting two and two together while keeping his fingers crossed. There's no evidence that TB is ready to do as suggested, so I'm not holding my breath. Albion In Staffs

7:30am Sat 4 Jan 14

Alfie T says...

Conway is likely to be the only player coming in during January. If we beat Reading today and draw a top four Prem club then we will be due a cash windfall which would finance the Conway move. Don't think there's much of a contradiction here. Oscar commented in a previous report that the Conway move could be a problem due to FFP a big home draw should we win today finances it.
Conway is likely to be the only player coming in during January. If we beat Reading today and draw a top four Prem club then we will be due a cash windfall which would finance the Conway move. Don't think there's much of a contradiction here. Oscar commented in a previous report that the Conway move could be a problem due to FFP a big home draw should we win today finances it. Alfie T

9:10am Sat 4 Jan 14

To baldly go says...

A cup run is great for all concerned, players, supporters, the club and could put us on tv, and with the right draw bring in loads of cash and putting the seagulls back on the map. For me, bringing Conway back is not a must, imo he only started to come good when his time with us was nearing its end, trying to get a job? We now have LuaLua and Orlandi back plus Lopez, March, Barnes and Buckley who all play wide, who do we leave out to play Conway?
For me, another striker is a must, Ulloa, when fit and sharp is probably the best in the division, but lose him to injury again and we have no one to replace him, Barnes has tried and failed as an out and out striker, that said you can't fault the guy for his effort, Cms we don't know when he's back and how he will perform. We had an opportunity to see how Lita performed but missed the boat on that one, so we are no wiser on who we could bring in as a striker.
We are due a good home win and feel that today it will click in front of goal, 3-1 Albion, Ulloa to get a brace. UTA
A cup run is great for all concerned, players, supporters, the club and could put us on tv, and with the right draw bring in loads of cash and putting the seagulls back on the map. For me, bringing Conway back is not a must, imo he only started to come good when his time with us was nearing its end, trying to get a job? We now have LuaLua and Orlandi back plus Lopez, March, Barnes and Buckley who all play wide, who do we leave out to play Conway? For me, another striker is a must, Ulloa, when fit and sharp is probably the best in the division, but lose him to injury again and we have no one to replace him, Barnes has tried and failed as an out and out striker, that said you can't fault the guy for his effort, Cms we don't know when he's back and how he will perform. We had an opportunity to see how Lita performed but missed the boat on that one, so we are no wiser on who we could bring in as a striker. We are due a good home win and feel that today it will click in front of goal, 3-1 Albion, Ulloa to get a brace. UTA To baldly go

9:16am Sat 4 Jan 14

mark by the sea says...

To baldly go wrote:
A cup run is great for all concerned, players, supporters, the club and could put us on tv, and with the right draw bring in loads of cash and putting the seagulls back on the map. For me, bringing Conway back is not a must, imo he only started to come good when his time with us was nearing its end, trying to get a job? We now have LuaLua and Orlandi back plus Lopez, March, Barnes and Buckley who all play wide, who do we leave out to play Conway?
For me, another striker is a must, Ulloa, when fit and sharp is probably the best in the division, but lose him to injury again and we have no one to replace him, Barnes has tried and failed as an out and out striker, that said you can't fault the guy for his effort, Cms we don't know when he's back and how he will perform. We had an opportunity to see how Lita performed but missed the boat on that one, so we are no wiser on who we could bring in as a striker.
We are due a good home win and feel that today it will click in front of goal, 3-1 Albion, Ulloa to get a brace. UTA
The manager sees players in 20 hours a week training, I don't think Lita was a OG loan, or he would have been played, we need goals from more than the forwards,,,
As for Conway , i hope we don't part with more than 100k for a player out of contract in 5 months, more important is getting Ince signed up on a three year deal.
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: A cup run is great for all concerned, players, supporters, the club and could put us on tv, and with the right draw bring in loads of cash and putting the seagulls back on the map. For me, bringing Conway back is not a must, imo he only started to come good when his time with us was nearing its end, trying to get a job? We now have LuaLua and Orlandi back plus Lopez, March, Barnes and Buckley who all play wide, who do we leave out to play Conway? For me, another striker is a must, Ulloa, when fit and sharp is probably the best in the division, but lose him to injury again and we have no one to replace him, Barnes has tried and failed as an out and out striker, that said you can't fault the guy for his effort, Cms we don't know when he's back and how he will perform. We had an opportunity to see how Lita performed but missed the boat on that one, so we are no wiser on who we could bring in as a striker. We are due a good home win and feel that today it will click in front of goal, 3-1 Albion, Ulloa to get a brace. UTA[/p][/quote]The manager sees players in 20 hours a week training, I don't think Lita was a OG loan, or he would have been played, we need goals from more than the forwards,,, As for Conway , i hope we don't part with more than 100k for a player out of contract in 5 months, more important is getting Ince signed up on a three year deal. mark by the sea

9:20am Sat 4 Jan 14

mickagull says...

Alfie T wrote:
Conway is likely to be the only player coming in during January. If we beat Reading today and draw a top four Prem club then we will be due a cash windfall which would finance the Conway move. Don't think there's much of a contradiction here. Oscar commented in a previous report that the Conway move could be a problem due to FFP a big home draw should we win today finances it.
So what will happen if we win today and get an away draw to a non league team, will we sign no one. This would not be a bad thing as long as we don't loose anyone. Hopefully Mr CMS will be back soon and will be like a bullet from a gun.
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: Conway is likely to be the only player coming in during January. If we beat Reading today and draw a top four Prem club then we will be due a cash windfall which would finance the Conway move. Don't think there's much of a contradiction here. Oscar commented in a previous report that the Conway move could be a problem due to FFP a big home draw should we win today finances it.[/p][/quote]So what will happen if we win today and get an away draw to a non league team, will we sign no one. This would not be a bad thing as long as we don't loose anyone. Hopefully Mr CMS will be back soon and will be like a bullet from a gun. mickagull

9:20am Sat 4 Jan 14

Liambhataylor19 says...

Win today and get Conway in hopefully before 4th round will set us up nicely come on Albion mke the Amex a fortress again
Win today and get Conway in hopefully before 4th round will set us up nicely come on Albion mke the Amex a fortress again Liambhataylor19

9:23am Sat 4 Jan 14

russellsnr says...

Hi, seems a little strange to me that as a club we have come on in leaps and bounds over the last 4 to 5 years and most of that is down to TB who without his financial input we would not be so, but! we are drawing crowds now well over 20 thousand at home, I understand it costs a lot of money to run not just the team but also the AMEX but to say we have to win or have a run in the cup so we can maybe afford to bring in any player is not what I want to hear. If we cannot afford to bring in one player that the manager and many of us feel would give a great deal on the field and aid with that push towards the premier league then there surely must be a financial problem within. If we don't bring in quality players with experience we will pay more for in the long run.
When was the last time we spent big money on a player?, this FFP seems to have those that hold the purse strings quivering in fear, we have to invest as does any company to progress in business.
Hi, seems a little strange to me that as a club we have come on in leaps and bounds over the last 4 to 5 years and most of that is down to TB who without his financial input we would not be so, but! we are drawing crowds now well over 20 thousand at home, I understand it costs a lot of money to run not just the team but also the AMEX but to say we have to win or have a run in the cup so we can maybe afford to bring in any player is not what I want to hear. If we cannot afford to bring in one player that the manager and many of us feel would give a great deal on the field and aid with that push towards the premier league then there surely must be a financial problem within. If we don't bring in quality players with experience we will pay more for in the long run. When was the last time we spent big money on a player?, this FFP seems to have those that hold the purse strings quivering in fear, we have to invest as does any company to progress in business. russellsnr

10:03am Sat 4 Jan 14

impose our game gull says...

WestStander17 wrote:
That last bit seems to suggest Leo will play today then.

Would like to see Orlandi get some game time as long as he came through his Bournemouth cameo ok.

An experimental but strong line-up as follows would suit me...

Kuszczak; Calderon, El Abd, Upson, Chicksen; Ince or Bridcutt, JFC, Orlandi; Lua Lua, Barnes; Ulloa.

And looking to bring on March and possibly Dunk (although CBs are tricky to swap) for some minutes too. Orlandi, Lua Lua and Ulloa are probably the most important to protect at this moment in time.

Anyway, we'll see. Whoever plays and whatever happens, lets make some NOISE!!!
Agreed. Especially about the NOISE part

The only difference (normally I would have agreed with a Lua Lua start) - is that as sat at North end of lower West and like to see Lua Lua magic, after his fantastic woodwork strike on Wednesday he didn't seem bothered - so I guess not up still for a full match. I'd like to see him come on at 55 minutes!! (same with 2 subs generally - let's bring them on by 55 minutes/ 60 latest - Oscar is better than Gus overall re this but 75 - 80 mins is often still too late, especially if we truly are going for a win rather than just the draw. Minutes 35 - 65 against Bournemouth basically things weren't working and earlier subs would have sorted this sooner)

UTA!!
[quote][p][bold]WestStander17[/bold] wrote: That last bit seems to suggest Leo will play today then. Would like to see Orlandi get some game time as long as he came through his Bournemouth cameo ok. An experimental but strong line-up as follows would suit me... Kuszczak; Calderon, El Abd, Upson, Chicksen; Ince or Bridcutt, JFC, Orlandi; Lua Lua, Barnes; Ulloa. And looking to bring on March and possibly Dunk (although CBs are tricky to swap) for some minutes too. Orlandi, Lua Lua and Ulloa are probably the most important to protect at this moment in time. Anyway, we'll see. Whoever plays and whatever happens, lets make some NOISE!!![/p][/quote]Agreed. Especially about the NOISE part The only difference (normally I would have agreed with a Lua Lua start) - is that as sat at North end of lower West and like to see Lua Lua magic, after his fantastic woodwork strike on Wednesday he didn't seem bothered - so I guess not up still for a full match. I'd like to see him come on at 55 minutes!! (same with 2 subs generally - let's bring them on by 55 minutes/ 60 latest - Oscar is better than Gus overall re this but 75 - 80 mins is often still too late, especially if we truly are going for a win rather than just the draw. Minutes 35 - 65 against Bournemouth basically things weren't working and earlier subs would have sorted this sooner) UTA!! impose our game gull

10:11am Sat 4 Jan 14

Chi Gull says...

russellsnr wrote:
Hi, seems a little strange to me that as a club we have come on in leaps and bounds over the last 4 to 5 years and most of that is down to TB who without his financial input we would not be so, but! we are drawing crowds now well over 20 thousand at home, I understand it costs a lot of money to run not just the team but also the AMEX but to say we have to win or have a run in the cup so we can maybe afford to bring in any player is not what I want to hear. If we cannot afford to bring in one player that the manager and many of us feel would give a great deal on the field and aid with that push towards the premier league then there surely must be a financial problem within. If we don't bring in quality players with experience we will pay more for in the long run.
When was the last time we spent big money on a player?, this FFP seems to have those that hold the purse strings quivering in fear, we have to invest as does any company to progress in business.
Obviously investing millions in a new top notch training/academy facility, expanding the Amex to 30,000 and buying Ulloa in the last January transfer window wasn't enough for you ?

Fans need to be realistic. Investing for the future is exactly what this club has been doing for the last few years. Clubs that have invested heavily in players over the last few months and then don't reach the promised land of the PL will be doing a passable imitation of Coventry or Portsmouth in the next season or two. I don't want that. I want what we have, which is consolidation, steady progress and good quality on the pitch.
[quote][p][bold]russellsnr[/bold] wrote: Hi, seems a little strange to me that as a club we have come on in leaps and bounds over the last 4 to 5 years and most of that is down to TB who without his financial input we would not be so, but! we are drawing crowds now well over 20 thousand at home, I understand it costs a lot of money to run not just the team but also the AMEX but to say we have to win or have a run in the cup so we can maybe afford to bring in any player is not what I want to hear. If we cannot afford to bring in one player that the manager and many of us feel would give a great deal on the field and aid with that push towards the premier league then there surely must be a financial problem within. If we don't bring in quality players with experience we will pay more for in the long run. When was the last time we spent big money on a player?, this FFP seems to have those that hold the purse strings quivering in fear, we have to invest as does any company to progress in business.[/p][/quote]Obviously investing millions in a new top notch training/academy facility, expanding the Amex to 30,000 and buying Ulloa in the last January transfer window wasn't enough for you ? Fans need to be realistic. Investing for the future is exactly what this club has been doing for the last few years. Clubs that have invested heavily in players over the last few months and then don't reach the promised land of the PL will be doing a passable imitation of Coventry or Portsmouth in the next season or two. I don't want that. I want what we have, which is consolidation, steady progress and good quality on the pitch. Chi Gull

10:15am Sat 4 Jan 14

Quiterie says...

russellsnr wrote:
Hi, seems a little strange to me that as a club we have come on in leaps and bounds over the last 4 to 5 years and most of that is down to TB who without his financial input we would not be so, but! we are drawing crowds now well over 20 thousand at home, I understand it costs a lot of money to run not just the team but also the AMEX but to say we have to win or have a run in the cup so we can maybe afford to bring in any player is not what I want to hear. If we cannot afford to bring in one player that the manager and many of us feel would give a great deal on the field and aid with that push towards the premier league then there surely must be a financial problem within. If we don't bring in quality players with experience we will pay more for in the long run.
When was the last time we spent big money on a player?, this FFP seems to have those that hold the purse strings quivering in fear, we have to invest as does any company to progress in business.
When was the last time we spent big money on a player?

Hhhhhhmmmmmm...... did you not read the article? Less than a year ago when we signed Ulloa of course!??!?!

In terms of 'financial problems within' it's well documented that the club is losing around £8m each season. They're trying to reduce that amount to meet the FPP obligations. You can't just bury your head in the sand and ignore them, otherwise we risk transfer embargoes or fines.

When these sanctions kick in for other clubs (like Blackburn) that's when we'll be in a strong position with our higher income from big crowds. It may take a couple of seasons, but I agree with the way the club is being run by Bloom. And let's not forget that even without the big signings that you want we're still losing huge amounts of money - money that Bloom has to pump into the club season after season.

Let's hold our nerve. Eventually we'll make the Premier League. It might not be this season, it might not be next season, but it will happen in the next few years.
[quote][p][bold]russellsnr[/bold] wrote: Hi, seems a little strange to me that as a club we have come on in leaps and bounds over the last 4 to 5 years and most of that is down to TB who without his financial input we would not be so, but! we are drawing crowds now well over 20 thousand at home, I understand it costs a lot of money to run not just the team but also the AMEX but to say we have to win or have a run in the cup so we can maybe afford to bring in any player is not what I want to hear. If we cannot afford to bring in one player that the manager and many of us feel would give a great deal on the field and aid with that push towards the premier league then there surely must be a financial problem within. If we don't bring in quality players with experience we will pay more for in the long run. When was the last time we spent big money on a player?, this FFP seems to have those that hold the purse strings quivering in fear, we have to invest as does any company to progress in business.[/p][/quote]When was the last time we spent big money on a player? Hhhhhhmmmmmm...... did you not read the article? Less than a year ago when we signed Ulloa of course!??!?! In terms of 'financial problems within' it's well documented that the club is losing around £8m each season. They're trying to reduce that amount to meet the FPP obligations. You can't just bury your head in the sand and ignore them, otherwise we risk transfer embargoes or fines. When these sanctions kick in for other clubs (like Blackburn) that's when we'll be in a strong position with our higher income from big crowds. It may take a couple of seasons, but I agree with the way the club is being run by Bloom. And let's not forget that even without the big signings that you want we're still losing huge amounts of money - money that Bloom has to pump into the club season after season. Let's hold our nerve. Eventually we'll make the Premier League. It might not be this season, it might not be next season, but it will happen in the next few years. Quiterie

12:05pm Sat 4 Jan 14

tinker111 says...

So does this mean if current players do perform then they lose there places when new players come in ????????????
So does this mean if current players do perform then they lose there places when new players come in ???????????? tinker111

12:24pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Alfie T says...

mickagull wrote:
Alfie T wrote:
Conway is likely to be the only player coming in during January. If we beat Reading today and draw a top four Prem club then we will be due a cash windfall which would finance the Conway move. Don't think there's much of a contradiction here. Oscar commented in a previous report that the Conway move could be a problem due to FFP a big home draw should we win today finances it.
So what will happen if we win today and get an away draw to a non league team, will we sign no one. This would not be a bad thing as long as we don't loose anyone. Hopefully Mr CMS will be back soon and will be like a bullet from a gun.
A win today guarantees us about £70k whom ever we get in the next round, and as Conway is close to being out of contract Cardiff will want to cash in, Conway seems keen to come back to Brighton so it should be fairly straightforward. However if we get a big club at home then all the better.
[quote][p][bold]mickagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: Conway is likely to be the only player coming in during January. If we beat Reading today and draw a top four Prem club then we will be due a cash windfall which would finance the Conway move. Don't think there's much of a contradiction here. Oscar commented in a previous report that the Conway move could be a problem due to FFP a big home draw should we win today finances it.[/p][/quote]So what will happen if we win today and get an away draw to a non league team, will we sign no one. This would not be a bad thing as long as we don't loose anyone. Hopefully Mr CMS will be back soon and will be like a bullet from a gun.[/p][/quote]A win today guarantees us about £70k whom ever we get in the next round, and as Conway is close to being out of contract Cardiff will want to cash in, Conway seems keen to come back to Brighton so it should be fairly straightforward. However if we get a big club at home then all the better. Alfie T

1:07pm Sat 4 Jan 14

albion64 says...

A point has been missed here. Teams are not allowed to spend money beyond the 'fair play' rules. So surely it is a contradiction as to whether we have funds available or not (especially from an FA cup run). It is totally irrelevant if we have £1 or £10 million, if you can't spend it within FA guidelines.
A point has been missed here. Teams are not allowed to spend money beyond the 'fair play' rules. So surely it is a contradiction as to whether we have funds available or not (especially from an FA cup run). It is totally irrelevant if we have £1 or £10 million, if you can't spend it within FA guidelines. albion64

1:15pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Alfie T says...

albion64 wrote:
A point has been missed here. Teams are not allowed to spend money beyond the 'fair play' rules. So surely it is a contradiction as to whether we have funds available or not (especially from an FA cup run). It is totally irrelevant if we have £1 or £10 million, if you can't spend it within FA guidelines.
Do you understand the FFP rules? To be honest I'm not clear how it works in real detail.
[quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: A point has been missed here. Teams are not allowed to spend money beyond the 'fair play' rules. So surely it is a contradiction as to whether we have funds available or not (especially from an FA cup run). It is totally irrelevant if we have £1 or £10 million, if you can't spend it within FA guidelines.[/p][/quote]Do you understand the FFP rules? To be honest I'm not clear how it works in real detail. Alfie T

1:51pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Clean Sheet says...

It might be a bit if wishful thinking, but reading the above would indicate that OG is not expecting to sell any of the current squad, if he needs outside cash to buy new? If this is the case, then I can't think of a better result.
It might be a bit if wishful thinking, but reading the above would indicate that OG is not expecting to sell any of the current squad, if he needs outside cash to buy new? If this is the case, then I can't think of a better result. Clean Sheet

6:29am Sun 5 Jan 14

the taffster says...

I wouldnt pay anything for Conway.hesr OK but nothing special either and not a patch on lua lua.if we get him on a free,take him. but funds from the sale of bridcutt shouldn't be wasted
I wouldnt pay anything for Conway.hesr OK but nothing special either and not a patch on lua lua.if we get him on a free,take him. but funds from the sale of bridcutt shouldn't be wasted the taffster

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