Transfer request is "nothing to do with me" says Poyet

The Argus: Sunderland boss Gus Poyet Sunderland boss Gus Poyet

Sunderland boss Gus Poyet has distanced himself from Liam Bridcutt’s transfer request at Albion.

Poyet is a big fan of the unsettled midfielder and his current club had a £2million offer rejected last week.

The former Seagulls manager presided over a 2-1 Capital One Cup win over Manchester United last night.

He told reporters after the game: “Liam Bridcutt putting in a transfer request? It’s nothing to do with me.”

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10:11am Wed 8 Jan 14

farside says...

One of his funnier ones!
One of his funnier ones! farside

10:13am Wed 8 Jan 14

BobbyLaverick says...

I believe you Gus (cough!)
I believe you Gus (cough!) BobbyLaverick

10:14am Wed 8 Jan 14

pablobrowno says...

........."as the actress said to the bishop"
........."as the actress said to the bishop" pablobrowno

10:14am Wed 8 Jan 14

B rian Tawses left foot says...

In the immortal words of Mandy Rice-Davis, 'He would say that wouldn't he ?'
In the immortal words of Mandy Rice-Davis, 'He would say that wouldn't he ?' B rian Tawses left foot

10:15am Wed 8 Jan 14

Jimmy Langley says...

And I believe in Father Christmas!
And I believe in Father Christmas! Jimmy Langley

10:16am Wed 8 Jan 14

Aye Aye says...

Very sensible Gus - I wouldn't expect a manger in your position to say anything else as there are rules governing so-called "tapping up". It's clear that Liam Bridcutt is very high on the Black Cat's shopping list and it's equally clear that a move seems likely. I would see this as an opportunity to strengthen the squad with the funds this generates (hence, it is vital that we command a high price) so the sooner this gets done, the better for all concerned.

Thanks for everything you've done for us Liam and good luck in wherever your future takes you. Rohan - this is your opportunity son, so go for it!
Very sensible Gus - I wouldn't expect a manger in your position to say anything else as there are rules governing so-called "tapping up". It's clear that Liam Bridcutt is very high on the Black Cat's shopping list and it's equally clear that a move seems likely. I would see this as an opportunity to strengthen the squad with the funds this generates (hence, it is vital that we command a high price) so the sooner this gets done, the better for all concerned. Thanks for everything you've done for us Liam and good luck in wherever your future takes you. Rohan - this is your opportunity son, so go for it! Aye Aye

10:17am Wed 8 Jan 14

heathgate says...

...he says with the same sincerity that he displayed when denying all knowledge on live TV, when he was sacked last year.
...he says with the same sincerity that he displayed when denying all knowledge on live TV, when he was sacked last year. heathgate

10:34am Wed 8 Jan 14

Tonyuk175 says...

Just put a sensible offer in and bore off, good luck to Liam and get gus out of trouble your move will be scrutinised by the mackems as they love cattermole
Just put a sensible offer in and bore off, good luck to Liam and get gus out of trouble your move will be scrutinised by the mackems as they love cattermole Tonyuk175

10:36am Wed 8 Jan 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

More likely to be Liam's agent orchestrating this. Just looking after his fee.
Liam should consider whether his agent is looking after Liam's interests or his own. IMHO agents should be regulated much more than they are now. They contribute nothing but greed. Good luck and thanks to Liam for everything but remember the Albion have done just as much for you as you have for the Albion.UTA
More likely to be Liam's agent orchestrating this. Just looking after his fee. Liam should consider whether his agent is looking after Liam's interests or his own. IMHO agents should be regulated much more than they are now. They contribute nothing but greed. Good luck and thanks to Liam for everything but remember the Albion have done just as much for you as you have for the Albion.UTA Joel'sGrandad

10:51am Wed 8 Jan 14

Baldseagull says...

Of course not Gus.
Gus is having fun with this one, if he pulls it off he gets Liam at a bargain price, if he doesn't get Liam, he unsettles him enough to affect his performances for us and cause some ill feeling. I'm not sure which is his preference.
Show Liam that you are not just using him to cause trouble at BHA, and put a proper offer in Gus.
Of course not Gus. Gus is having fun with this one, if he pulls it off he gets Liam at a bargain price, if he doesn't get Liam, he unsettles him enough to affect his performances for us and cause some ill feeling. I'm not sure which is his preference. Show Liam that you are not just using him to cause trouble at BHA, and put a proper offer in Gus. Baldseagull

11:04am Wed 8 Jan 14

Neville says...

Gus is fully aware of what is going on and would have known that LB was going to take this action,they are in contact and GP will be engineering this behind the scenes,it is their agent that is fronting this to avoid any tapping up scenarios.
To be fair GP was the one that made LB the player he is and I am happy for him to go but it has to be at a fair price and consistent as LB is he is his actual goal tally is absolutely awful.
Also happy for Buckley to go again at right price,lacks consistency and always an injury doubt,think we need Conway as he is the one winger who actually looks up before he crosses.
Would love to see McCourt of Barnsley snapped up,his contract runs out this season.
I just hope any fees received are used to bolster promotion attempt and not swallowed up by FFP,certainly the other top teams such as Leicester,Forest,QPR and Derby don't seem to worry about FFP.
Gus is fully aware of what is going on and would have known that LB was going to take this action,they are in contact and GP will be engineering this behind the scenes,it is their agent that is fronting this to avoid any tapping up scenarios. To be fair GP was the one that made LB the player he is and I am happy for him to go but it has to be at a fair price and consistent as LB is he is his actual goal tally is absolutely awful. Also happy for Buckley to go again at right price,lacks consistency and always an injury doubt,think we need Conway as he is the one winger who actually looks up before he crosses. Would love to see McCourt of Barnsley snapped up,his contract runs out this season. I just hope any fees received are used to bolster promotion attempt and not swallowed up by FFP,certainly the other top teams such as Leicester,Forest,QPR and Derby don't seem to worry about FFP. Neville

11:05am Wed 8 Jan 14

jockithenoo says...

Whatever.
Whatever. jockithenoo

11:19am Wed 8 Jan 14

hannover seagull says...

Pull the other one Gus, you have the same agent and therefore you are fully up to speed with Liams situation.I bet you are enjoying all this.
Four million would be half the clubs operating debt and a decent deal, two mllion is laughable if he is so hghly rated
If Liam does join Sunderland soon, he will not be eligable for Capital Cup games having come on for us against Newport in the first round for 6 minutes.
I wish Liam well but as for Poyet, thats another matter
UTA........
Pull the other one Gus, you have the same agent and therefore you are fully up to speed with Liams situation.I bet you are enjoying all this. Four million would be half the clubs operating debt and a decent deal, two mllion is laughable if he is so hghly rated If Liam does join Sunderland soon, he will not be eligable for Capital Cup games having come on for us against Newport in the first round for 6 minutes. I wish Liam well but as for Poyet, thats another matter UTA........ hannover seagull

11:50am Wed 8 Jan 14

Cap'n Pugwash says...

'eees comlicated but is futbol.

The man has no shame-or class.

You cost us promotion once Poyet, now it looks like you want to do the same this season.
'eees comlicated but is futbol. The man has no shame-or class. You cost us promotion once Poyet, now it looks like you want to do the same this season. Cap'n Pugwash

11:56am Wed 8 Jan 14

blueskiesfromnowon says...

just to change the subject a little, but still a serious matter for consideration - Liam's picture is plastered all over the No 22 bus in brighton. What a waste of paint. But who to replace him with? Who's got the looks for the job? And who's likely to stay in brighton for more than 5 minutes so avoiding another expensive paint job? My vote's for Inigo.
just to change the subject a little, but still a serious matter for consideration - Liam's picture is plastered all over the No 22 bus in brighton. What a waste of paint. But who to replace him with? Who's got the looks for the job? And who's likely to stay in brighton for more than 5 minutes so avoiding another expensive paint job? My vote's for Inigo. blueskiesfromnowon

12:00pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Qantitative Easing says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
More likely to be Liam's agent orchestrating this. Just looking after his fee. Liam should consider whether his agent is looking after Liam's interests or his own. IMHO agents should be regulated much more than they are now. They contribute nothing but greed. Good luck and thanks to Liam for everything but remember the Albion have done just as much for you as you have for the Albion.UTA
Gus and Liam have the same agent!
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: More likely to be Liam's agent orchestrating this. Just looking after his fee. Liam should consider whether his agent is looking after Liam's interests or his own. IMHO agents should be regulated much more than they are now. They contribute nothing but greed. Good luck and thanks to Liam for everything but remember the Albion have done just as much for you as you have for the Albion.UTA[/p][/quote]Gus and Liam have the same agent! Qantitative Easing

12:55pm Wed 8 Jan 14

mikeygit says...

Quantitive easing--my thoughts exactly. Gus wants Liam but is distancing himself from what is going on!! Ho Ho Xmas is over Gus.
Quantitive easing--my thoughts exactly. Gus wants Liam but is distancing himself from what is going on!! Ho Ho Xmas is over Gus. mikeygit

12:57pm Wed 8 Jan 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

Bless them all and let's get back to focussing on what FEELS GOOD! Great performance, clean sheet and some great Seagull goals against Birmingham and a steady climb right up the table. One of the many things I love about Oscar is he won't allow ANYONE, including interviewers, to distract him from his focus.

He is only focused on anything which he can do something about and makes it clear in his interviews by his responses that he has absolutely no interest in 'gossip'.

I'm sure he's not the pundit's favourite because they really have to earn their corn when they interview him! But I love him and I believe that's what has made him successful and why some at Barcelona were seriously touting him as a replacement for Guardiola. In Oscar we'll Prosper!!!
Bless them all and let's get back to focussing on what FEELS GOOD! Great performance, clean sheet and some great Seagull goals against Birmingham and a steady climb right up the table. One of the many things I love about Oscar is he won't allow ANYONE, including interviewers, to distract him from his focus. He is only focused on anything which he can do something about and makes it clear in his interviews by his responses that he has absolutely no interest in 'gossip'. I'm sure he's not the pundit's favourite because they really have to earn their corn when they interview him! But I love him and I believe that's what has made him successful and why some at Barcelona were seriously touting him as a replacement for Guardiola. In Oscar we'll Prosper!!! WisdomSpeaks

1:08pm Wed 8 Jan 14

fansunited says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
More likely to be Liam's agent orchestrating this. Just looking after his fee.
Liam should consider whether his agent is looking after Liam's interests or his own. IMHO agents should be regulated much more than they are now. They contribute nothing but greed. Good luck and thanks to Liam for everything but remember the Albion have done just as much for you as you have for the Albion.UTA
They are one off the same..........
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: More likely to be Liam's agent orchestrating this. Just looking after his fee. Liam should consider whether his agent is looking after Liam's interests or his own. IMHO agents should be regulated much more than they are now. They contribute nothing but greed. Good luck and thanks to Liam for everything but remember the Albion have done just as much for you as you have for the Albion.UTA[/p][/quote]They are one off the same.......... fansunited

1:14pm Wed 8 Jan 14

tug509 says...

Neville ,slightly off topic ,like your comment about Conway being the only winger to look up before crossing . UTA
Neville ,slightly off topic ,like your comment about Conway being the only winger to look up before crossing . UTA tug509

1:19pm Wed 8 Jan 14

tug509 says...

tug509 wrote:
Neville ,slightly off topic ,like your comment about Conway being the only winger to look up before crossing . UTA
Sorry not happy with myself for not adding ,Kaz and Will in their defence ,go at such a pace sometimes it`s a wonder they manage a cross at all ,but still like your observation . UTA
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Neville ,slightly off topic ,like your comment about Conway being the only winger to look up before crossing . UTA[/p][/quote]Sorry not happy with myself for not adding ,Kaz and Will in their defence ,go at such a pace sometimes it`s a wonder they manage a cross at all ,but still like your observation . UTA tug509

1:20pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Steveg1958 says...

I have nothing against Liam and wish him well, but as others have said Gus is now another matter !, he knows exactly what is happening and should just tell his bosses at Sunderland to pay up a fair price, (after all he did say last year that Liam was good enough for Real Madrid). £4M now and you can have him, but remember this GP, defensive midfield players do not win matches which is what Sunderland need now. My bet is they will in the Championship come May and if Burke & Barber et al, spend the money wisely, ie Conway and another Striker we will be going in the opposite direction. Can't wait, Palace and Sunderland relegated in ne season, what a result.
I have nothing against Liam and wish him well, but as others have said Gus is now another matter !, he knows exactly what is happening and should just tell his bosses at Sunderland to pay up a fair price, (after all he did say last year that Liam was good enough for Real Madrid). £4M now and you can have him, but remember this GP, defensive midfield players do not win matches which is what Sunderland need now. My bet is they will in the Championship come May and if Burke & Barber et al, spend the money wisely, ie Conway and another Striker we will be going in the opposite direction. Can't wait, Palace and Sunderland relegated in ne season, what a result. Steveg1958

1:32pm Wed 8 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Sunderland had a two million offer turned down, 'last week,' yesterday we were talking of the deal being worth, 2.5 million and a possible extra 2.5 million, that doesn't gel for me, too big of a monetary gap.

I am certain, in my own mind, that Poyet had nothing to do with Liam handing in a transfer request, but I am equally certain that he knew it was going to happen. I noticed that yesterday one contributor on here claimed that this request was, 'routine,' my word not his, really, there have been quite a few deals done and so far not one was connected to a transfer request, in any division.

This is all about money, Sunderland don't want to pay our price, Liam wants his chance to play at the top and get the money that goes with that chance. The transfer request is a step to build up the pressure on Brighton to make a deal, it adds zero pressure on Sunderland to improve their offer.
I remain convinced that our asking price is between 3.5 and 4 million, 'cash up front,' forget, 'possible,' add ons, other than a sell on clause. You don't play poker on a promise of funds, it's money on the table that gets you the chips.
Sunderland had a two million offer turned down, 'last week,' yesterday we were talking of the deal being worth, 2.5 million and a possible extra 2.5 million, that doesn't gel for me, too big of a monetary gap. I am certain, in my own mind, that Poyet had nothing to do with Liam handing in a transfer request, but I am equally certain that he knew it was going to happen. I noticed that yesterday one contributor on here claimed that this request was, 'routine,' my word not his, really, there have been quite a few deals done and so far not one was connected to a transfer request, in any division. This is all about money, Sunderland don't want to pay our price, Liam wants his chance to play at the top and get the money that goes with that chance. The transfer request is a step to build up the pressure on Brighton to make a deal, it adds zero pressure on Sunderland to improve their offer. I remain convinced that our asking price is between 3.5 and 4 million, 'cash up front,' forget, 'possible,' add ons, other than a sell on clause. You don't play poker on a promise of funds, it's money on the table that gets you the chips. VegasSeagull

1:45pm Wed 8 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

The one that got away, Virgil Van Dijk could soon be the subject of a 10 million bid from Man City.
The one that got away, Virgil Van Dijk could soon be the subject of a 10 million bid from Man City. VegasSeagull

1:49pm Wed 8 Jan 14

hannover seagull says...

blueskiesfromnowon wrote:
just to change the subject a little, but still a serious matter for consideration - Liam's picture is plastered all over the No 22 bus in brighton. What a waste of paint. But who to replace him with? Who's got the looks for the job? And who's likely to stay in brighton for more than 5 minutes so avoiding another expensive paint job? My vote's for Inigo.
How about Gus Poyet starring at the Theatre Royal in
Pinnochio......
[quote][p][bold]blueskiesfromnowon[/bold] wrote: just to change the subject a little, but still a serious matter for consideration - Liam's picture is plastered all over the No 22 bus in brighton. What a waste of paint. But who to replace him with? Who's got the looks for the job? And who's likely to stay in brighton for more than 5 minutes so avoiding another expensive paint job? My vote's for Inigo.[/p][/quote]How about Gus Poyet starring at the Theatre Royal in Pinnochio...... hannover seagull

1:59pm Wed 8 Jan 14

brightonup says...

Unfortunately, nearly all of this is speculation.
As far as I can tell, we never discover exactly who did what, their motives nor perhaps even the transfer fee involved.
As long as it doesn't disrupt the rest of the squad and the price gives us money to strengthen - then I just look forward the conclusion soon.
Unfortunately, nearly all of this is speculation. As far as I can tell, we never discover exactly who did what, their motives nor perhaps even the transfer fee involved. As long as it doesn't disrupt the rest of the squad and the price gives us money to strengthen - then I just look forward the conclusion soon. brightonup

2:02pm Wed 8 Jan 14

blueskiesfromnowon says...

hannover seagull wrote:
blueskiesfromnowon wrote:
just to change the subject a little, but still a serious matter for consideration - Liam's picture is plastered all over the No 22 bus in brighton. What a waste of paint. But who to replace him with? Who's got the looks for the job? And who's likely to stay in brighton for more than 5 minutes so avoiding another expensive paint job? My vote's for Inigo.
How about Gus Poyet starring at the Theatre Royal in
Pinnochio......
I thought panto season was over!
[quote][p][bold]hannover seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueskiesfromnowon[/bold] wrote: just to change the subject a little, but still a serious matter for consideration - Liam's picture is plastered all over the No 22 bus in brighton. What a waste of paint. But who to replace him with? Who's got the looks for the job? And who's likely to stay in brighton for more than 5 minutes so avoiding another expensive paint job? My vote's for Inigo.[/p][/quote]How about Gus Poyet starring at the Theatre Royal in Pinnochio......[/p][/quote]I thought panto season was over! blueskiesfromnowon

2:12pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Albion In Staffs says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Sunderland had a two million offer turned down, 'last week,' yesterday we were talking of the deal being worth, 2.5 million and a possible extra 2.5 million, that doesn't gel for me, too big of a monetary gap.

I am certain, in my own mind, that Poyet had nothing to do with Liam handing in a transfer request, but I am equally certain that he knew it was going to happen. I noticed that yesterday one contributor on here claimed that this request was, 'routine,' my word not his, really, there have been quite a few deals done and so far not one was connected to a transfer request, in any division.

This is all about money, Sunderland don't want to pay our price, Liam wants his chance to play at the top and get the money that goes with that chance. The transfer request is a step to build up the pressure on Brighton to make a deal, it adds zero pressure on Sunderland to improve their offer.
I remain convinced that our asking price is between 3.5 and 4 million, 'cash up front,' forget, 'possible,' add ons, other than a sell on clause. You don't play poker on a promise of funds, it's money on the table that gets you the chips.
Yep, Poyet playing with semantics. I've already said this was their next gambit because they won't meet the valuation and thanks to Ex-Pat Arnie, I'm now aware his contract runs out in 2015 rather than this summer.
I initially thought we were hamstrung but I now believe it's more an act of desperation on their part. Sunderland don't have much dough and that leaves them nowhere to go after this if TB plays hardball. Up here, Jeremy Peace has a reputation at 'the other' Albion for doing the same and WBA rarely get turned over on transfers.
My money is now on our boy either getting full whack or making Liam stay.
And if he stays, my money would also be on Liam being a committed asset until the end of the season because I don't think he's at fault in all this. Sure, he wants to play in the Prem, but others are pulling the strings.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Sunderland had a two million offer turned down, 'last week,' yesterday we were talking of the deal being worth, 2.5 million and a possible extra 2.5 million, that doesn't gel for me, too big of a monetary gap. I am certain, in my own mind, that Poyet had nothing to do with Liam handing in a transfer request, but I am equally certain that he knew it was going to happen. I noticed that yesterday one contributor on here claimed that this request was, 'routine,' my word not his, really, there have been quite a few deals done and so far not one was connected to a transfer request, in any division. This is all about money, Sunderland don't want to pay our price, Liam wants his chance to play at the top and get the money that goes with that chance. The transfer request is a step to build up the pressure on Brighton to make a deal, it adds zero pressure on Sunderland to improve their offer. I remain convinced that our asking price is between 3.5 and 4 million, 'cash up front,' forget, 'possible,' add ons, other than a sell on clause. You don't play poker on a promise of funds, it's money on the table that gets you the chips.[/p][/quote]Yep, Poyet playing with semantics. I've already said this was their next gambit because they won't meet the valuation and thanks to Ex-Pat Arnie, I'm now aware his contract runs out in 2015 rather than this summer. I initially thought we were hamstrung but I now believe it's more an act of desperation on their part. Sunderland don't have much dough and that leaves them nowhere to go after this if TB plays hardball. Up here, Jeremy Peace has a reputation at 'the other' Albion for doing the same and WBA rarely get turned over on transfers. My money is now on our boy either getting full whack or making Liam stay. And if he stays, my money would also be on Liam being a committed asset until the end of the season because I don't think he's at fault in all this. Sure, he wants to play in the Prem, but others are pulling the strings. Albion In Staffs

2:20pm Wed 8 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Sunderland had a two million offer turned down, 'last week,' yesterday we were talking of the deal being worth, 2.5 million and a possible extra 2.5 million, that doesn't gel for me, too big of a monetary gap.

I am certain, in my own mind, that Poyet had nothing to do with Liam handing in a transfer request, but I am equally certain that he knew it was going to happen. I noticed that yesterday one contributor on here claimed that this request was, 'routine,' my word not his, really, there have been quite a few deals done and so far not one was connected to a transfer request, in any division.

This is all about money, Sunderland don't want to pay our price, Liam wants his chance to play at the top and get the money that goes with that chance. The transfer request is a step to build up the pressure on Brighton to make a deal, it adds zero pressure on Sunderland to improve their offer.
I remain convinced that our asking price is between 3.5 and 4 million, 'cash up front,' forget, 'possible,' add ons, other than a sell on clause. You don't play poker on a promise of funds, it's money on the table that gets you the chips.
Yep, Poyet playing with semantics. I've already said this was their next gambit because they won't meet the valuation and thanks to Ex-Pat Arnie, I'm now aware his contract runs out in 2015 rather than this summer.
I initially thought we were hamstrung but I now believe it's more an act of desperation on their part. Sunderland don't have much dough and that leaves them nowhere to go after this if TB plays hardball. Up here, Jeremy Peace has a reputation at 'the other' Albion for doing the same and WBA rarely get turned over on transfers.
My money is now on our boy either getting full whack or making Liam stay.
And if he stays, my money would also be on Liam being a committed asset until the end of the season because I don't think he's at fault in all this. Sure, he wants to play in the Prem, but others are pulling the strings.
I hope Ex Pat Arnie is right about 2015 as the contract expire date but I am not so sure he is. I just checked out the football portal site and that site has his contract ending this year, it also values him at 3.1 million. Web sites do get it wrong so I am hoping Arnie is right.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Sunderland had a two million offer turned down, 'last week,' yesterday we were talking of the deal being worth, 2.5 million and a possible extra 2.5 million, that doesn't gel for me, too big of a monetary gap. I am certain, in my own mind, that Poyet had nothing to do with Liam handing in a transfer request, but I am equally certain that he knew it was going to happen. I noticed that yesterday one contributor on here claimed that this request was, 'routine,' my word not his, really, there have been quite a few deals done and so far not one was connected to a transfer request, in any division. This is all about money, Sunderland don't want to pay our price, Liam wants his chance to play at the top and get the money that goes with that chance. The transfer request is a step to build up the pressure on Brighton to make a deal, it adds zero pressure on Sunderland to improve their offer. I remain convinced that our asking price is between 3.5 and 4 million, 'cash up front,' forget, 'possible,' add ons, other than a sell on clause. You don't play poker on a promise of funds, it's money on the table that gets you the chips.[/p][/quote]Yep, Poyet playing with semantics. I've already said this was their next gambit because they won't meet the valuation and thanks to Ex-Pat Arnie, I'm now aware his contract runs out in 2015 rather than this summer. I initially thought we were hamstrung but I now believe it's more an act of desperation on their part. Sunderland don't have much dough and that leaves them nowhere to go after this if TB plays hardball. Up here, Jeremy Peace has a reputation at 'the other' Albion for doing the same and WBA rarely get turned over on transfers. My money is now on our boy either getting full whack or making Liam stay. And if he stays, my money would also be on Liam being a committed asset until the end of the season because I don't think he's at fault in all this. Sure, he wants to play in the Prem, but others are pulling the strings.[/p][/quote]I hope Ex Pat Arnie is right about 2015 as the contract expire date but I am not so sure he is. I just checked out the football portal site and that site has his contract ending this year, it also values him at 3.1 million. Web sites do get it wrong so I am hoping Arnie is right. VegasSeagull

2:28pm Wed 8 Jan 14

bruce beckett says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
The one that got away, Virgil Van Dijk could soon be the subject of a 10 million bid from Man City.
Interesting post, Vegas. Shame we missed out on the Dutch lad as he looks like a star in the making. We're very well-served by our central defenders – Upson, Greer and El Abd have been a rock for us in recent years – but they're all getting on a bit and we could still do with a youngster with pace.

As for Bridcutt, just hope the two clubs can reach agreement over a transfer fee as soon as possible because it's not going to do anyone any favours if this drags on until the end of January.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: The one that got away, Virgil Van Dijk could soon be the subject of a 10 million bid from Man City.[/p][/quote]Interesting post, Vegas. Shame we missed out on the Dutch lad as he looks like a star in the making. We're very well-served by our central defenders – Upson, Greer and El Abd have been a rock for us in recent years – but they're all getting on a bit and we could still do with a youngster with pace. As for Bridcutt, just hope the two clubs can reach agreement over a transfer fee as soon as possible because it's not going to do anyone any favours if this drags on until the end of January. bruce beckett

2:37pm Wed 8 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Bruce, I agree, it would be best for all concerned to get this Bridcutt deal done asap.
I think I am right in saying that we offered 2 million for Dijk, I wonder if would be valued at 10 million today had he joined us rather than Celtic.
Bruce, I agree, it would be best for all concerned to get this Bridcutt deal done asap. I think I am right in saying that we offered 2 million for Dijk, I wonder if would be valued at 10 million today had he joined us rather than Celtic. VegasSeagull

2:42pm Wed 8 Jan 14

GeorgeBTN says...

I wish Liam Bridcutt good luck if he goes. Last season I thought he would be missed if he went not sure now. I know he is a defensive midfielder but I have ail ways thought that getting the ball forward quickly and having the occasional shot were aspects of his game that were missing.
I wish Liam Bridcutt good luck if he goes. Last season I thought he would be missed if he went not sure now. I know he is a defensive midfielder but I have ail ways thought that getting the ball forward quickly and having the occasional shot were aspects of his game that were missing. GeorgeBTN

3:06pm Wed 8 Jan 14

farside says...

Baldseagull wrote:
Of course not Gus.
Gus is having fun with this one, if he pulls it off he gets Liam at a bargain price, if he doesn't get Liam, he unsettles him enough to affect his performances for us and cause some ill feeling. I'm not sure which is his preference.
Show Liam that you are not just using him to cause trouble at BHA, and put a proper offer in Gus.
In fairness I believe the offer to take Bridcutt and Buckley with him to the EPL (and not with Albion!) was made back in April.
Easy to understand why Tony might have been narked enough to sack him.........
[quote][p][bold]Baldseagull[/bold] wrote: Of course not Gus. Gus is having fun with this one, if he pulls it off he gets Liam at a bargain price, if he doesn't get Liam, he unsettles him enough to affect his performances for us and cause some ill feeling. I'm not sure which is his preference. Show Liam that you are not just using him to cause trouble at BHA, and put a proper offer in Gus.[/p][/quote]In fairness I believe the offer to take Bridcutt and Buckley with him to the EPL (and not with Albion!) was made back in April. Easy to understand why Tony might have been narked enough to sack him......... farside

3:14pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Chi Gull says...

There were newspaper reports back in April 2013 stating that LBs contract was until 2015, when Norwich and others were interested in signing him.

When Gus says it was nothing to do with him - of course it wasn't. Only Liam can make the transfer request, so technically I am sure he is right. When they are sharing the same agent we all know there will have been talk between the 3.
There were newspaper reports back in April 2013 stating that LBs contract was until 2015, when Norwich and others were interested in signing him. When Gus says it was nothing to do with him - of course it wasn't. Only Liam can make the transfer request, so technically I am sure he is right. When they are sharing the same agent we all know there will have been talk between the 3. Chi Gull

3:33pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Sunderland had a two million offer turned down, 'last week,' yesterday we were talking of the deal being worth, 2.5 million and a possible extra 2.5 million, that doesn't gel for me, too big of a monetary gap.

I am certain, in my own mind, that Poyet had nothing to do with Liam handing in a transfer request, but I am equally certain that he knew it was going to happen. I noticed that yesterday one contributor on here claimed that this request was, 'routine,' my word not his, really, there have been quite a few deals done and so far not one was connected to a transfer request, in any division.

This is all about money, Sunderland don't want to pay our price, Liam wants his chance to play at the top and get the money that goes with that chance. The transfer request is a step to build up the pressure on Brighton to make a deal, it adds zero pressure on Sunderland to improve their offer.
I remain convinced that our asking price is between 3.5 and 4 million, 'cash up front,' forget, 'possible,' add ons, other than a sell on clause. You don't play poker on a promise of funds, it's money on the table that gets you the chips.
Yep, Poyet playing with semantics. I've already said this was their next gambit because they won't meet the valuation and thanks to Ex-Pat Arnie, I'm now aware his contract runs out in 2015 rather than this summer.
I initially thought we were hamstrung but I now believe it's more an act of desperation on their part. Sunderland don't have much dough and that leaves them nowhere to go after this if TB plays hardball. Up here, Jeremy Peace has a reputation at 'the other' Albion for doing the same and WBA rarely get turned over on transfers.
My money is now on our boy either getting full whack or making Liam stay.
And if he stays, my money would also be on Liam being a committed asset until the end of the season because I don't think he's at fault in all this. Sure, he wants to play in the Prem, but others are pulling the strings.
I hope Ex Pat Arnie is right about 2015 as the contract expire date but I am not so sure he is. I just checked out the football portal site and that site has his contract ending this year, it also values him at 3.1 million. Web sites do get it wrong so I am hoping Arnie is right.
For anyone still unsure when LB's contract ends, read this (4th para - worth reading ALL of that para):

http://www.theargus.
co.uk/sport/10860626
.Bridcutt_keen_on_Pr
emier_chance/
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Sunderland had a two million offer turned down, 'last week,' yesterday we were talking of the deal being worth, 2.5 million and a possible extra 2.5 million, that doesn't gel for me, too big of a monetary gap. I am certain, in my own mind, that Poyet had nothing to do with Liam handing in a transfer request, but I am equally certain that he knew it was going to happen. I noticed that yesterday one contributor on here claimed that this request was, 'routine,' my word not his, really, there have been quite a few deals done and so far not one was connected to a transfer request, in any division. This is all about money, Sunderland don't want to pay our price, Liam wants his chance to play at the top and get the money that goes with that chance. The transfer request is a step to build up the pressure on Brighton to make a deal, it adds zero pressure on Sunderland to improve their offer. I remain convinced that our asking price is between 3.5 and 4 million, 'cash up front,' forget, 'possible,' add ons, other than a sell on clause. You don't play poker on a promise of funds, it's money on the table that gets you the chips.[/p][/quote]Yep, Poyet playing with semantics. I've already said this was their next gambit because they won't meet the valuation and thanks to Ex-Pat Arnie, I'm now aware his contract runs out in 2015 rather than this summer. I initially thought we were hamstrung but I now believe it's more an act of desperation on their part. Sunderland don't have much dough and that leaves them nowhere to go after this if TB plays hardball. Up here, Jeremy Peace has a reputation at 'the other' Albion for doing the same and WBA rarely get turned over on transfers. My money is now on our boy either getting full whack or making Liam stay. And if he stays, my money would also be on Liam being a committed asset until the end of the season because I don't think he's at fault in all this. Sure, he wants to play in the Prem, but others are pulling the strings.[/p][/quote]I hope Ex Pat Arnie is right about 2015 as the contract expire date but I am not so sure he is. I just checked out the football portal site and that site has his contract ending this year, it also values him at 3.1 million. Web sites do get it wrong so I am hoping Arnie is right.[/p][/quote]For anyone still unsure when LB's contract ends, read this (4th para - worth reading ALL of that para): http://www.theargus. co.uk/sport/10860626 .Bridcutt_keen_on_Pr emier_chance/ Ex-pat Arnie

3:42pm Wed 8 Jan 14

twonk says...

You'd have to pay me a fortune to live anywhere near Sunderland,
You'd have to pay me a fortune to live anywhere near Sunderland, twonk

3:48pm Wed 8 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Expat Arnie, yep I read it and it does state that he is ours until 2015, just hope it wasn't an off day for the reporter. It would be helpful if the Argus could confirm his contract status, or better still the club.
Expat Arnie, yep I read it and it does state that he is ours until 2015, just hope it wasn't an off day for the reporter. It would be helpful if the Argus could confirm his contract status, or better still the club. VegasSeagull

4:31pm Wed 8 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

Off topic...

As much as I hate what Vincent Tan has put the Cardiff fans through and the way he treated Mackay...
I have to say that I'm impressed that he has let his new manager pick his own targets and gone and got them so quickly.

I only mention this because I would love to see OG given the same courtesy by our management team... Who he would bring in through his own connections would excite me.
I hope we see one or two soon.

Uta
Off topic... As much as I hate what Vincent Tan has put the Cardiff fans through and the way he treated Mackay... I have to say that I'm impressed that he has let his new manager pick his own targets and gone and got them so quickly. I only mention this because I would love to see OG given the same courtesy by our management team... Who he would bring in through his own connections would excite me. I hope we see one or two soon. Uta SMF20

4:42pm Wed 8 Jan 14

tug509 says...

Cant be as nice as you guys ,speaking honestly ,this stinks of a wrong`en ,to quote a previous poster "gus is a gobsh ite !.
Cant be as nice as you guys ,speaking honestly ,this stinks of a wrong`en ,to quote a previous poster "gus is a gobsh ite !. tug509

5:06pm Wed 8 Jan 14

tinker111 says...

twonk wrote:
You'd have to pay me a fortune to live anywhere near Sunderland,
TO MANY DAMMED TURNCOATS ON HERE BE VERY THANKFULL FOR WHAT GREAT" GUS" DID , YES HE MADE BRIDDERS WHAT HE IS AND NOW HOPE LEIM JOINS A GOOD MANAGER (GUS)
[quote][p][bold]twonk[/bold] wrote: You'd have to pay me a fortune to live anywhere near Sunderland,[/p][/quote]TO MANY DAMMED TURNCOATS ON HERE BE VERY THANKFULL FOR WHAT GREAT" GUS" DID , YES HE MADE BRIDDERS WHAT HE IS AND NOW HOPE LEIM JOINS A GOOD MANAGER (GUS) tinker111

5:06pm Wed 8 Jan 14

tug509 says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
More likely to be Liam's agent orchestrating this. Just looking after his fee.
Liam should consider whether his agent is looking after Liam's interests or his own. IMHO agents should be regulated much more than they are now. They contribute nothing but greed. Good luck and thanks to Liam for everything but remember the Albion have done just as much for you as you have for the Albion.UTA
Great post ,we must not sell our club short of compliments or fair dues.

that is gus` job at the moment.
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: More likely to be Liam's agent orchestrating this. Just looking after his fee. Liam should consider whether his agent is looking after Liam's interests or his own. IMHO agents should be regulated much more than they are now. They contribute nothing but greed. Good luck and thanks to Liam for everything but remember the Albion have done just as much for you as you have for the Albion.UTA[/p][/quote]Great post ,we must not sell our club short of compliments or fair dues. that is gus` job at the moment. tug509

5:12pm Wed 8 Jan 14

tinker111 says...

tinker111 wrote:
twonk wrote:
You'd have to pay me a fortune to live anywhere near Sunderland,
TO MANY DAMMED TURNCOATS ON HERE BE VERY THANKFULL FOR WHAT GREAT" GUS" DID , YES HE MADE BRIDDERS WHAT HE IS AND NOW HOPE LEIM JOINS A GOOD MANAGER (GUS)
SORRY" LIAM" good Luck to you and so many thanks for all the great displays go join a forward thinking club and not one who hides behind FFP
[quote][p][bold]tinker111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]twonk[/bold] wrote: You'd have to pay me a fortune to live anywhere near Sunderland,[/p][/quote]TO MANY DAMMED TURNCOATS ON HERE BE VERY THANKFULL FOR WHAT GREAT" GUS" DID , YES HE MADE BRIDDERS WHAT HE IS AND NOW HOPE LEIM JOINS A GOOD MANAGER (GUS)[/p][/quote]SORRY" LIAM" good Luck to you and so many thanks for all the great displays go join a forward thinking club and not one who hides behind FFP tinker111

5:25pm Wed 8 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Tug, does Poyet want to get one over on Mr. Bloom as much as he wants Bridcutt? The Sunderland board will not play games, the history between Bloom and Poyet will not affect how they try to do business, but they will use Poyet's knowledge of Brighton and his close connection with Bridcutt.
We have no idea of what Poyet may have said to his board regarding what, 'he,' thinks it will take to get Bridders. It is possible that the Sunderland board might be prepared to pay more but Poyet is saying, 'hold up, we can get this deal done for less.'

The fact is Tug none of us know anything, other than what is being reported in the papers, and they seem to have different versions of what is going on. Transfer request or not, it might be that Liam does not move to Sunderland, he might not move anywhere right now.
The fantastic gate numbers we have and the good work done by Barber, means that we don't, 'have,' to sell anyone. If any club wants one of ours then they need to offer what the club feels is a fair price, a deal that both club and fans can live with. Can you imagine what the fans would think if we let Bridcutt go for a paltry 2.5 million, it doesn't matter that it's Sunderland wanting the lad, but that fact does add a little spice to the proceedings.

Poyet has a list of players he wants, to buy or borrow, the question is, how far up that list does Bridcutt stand. If the lad is at the top of the list then the offer has to reflect that desire to buy. There is a tipping point regarding the price, the lowest figure we will accept, it appears that Sunderland have not reached that point, but that has nothing to do with Poyet as that is our card to play. Bridders brings something to Sunderland that others can't bring, that being his time working with Poyet in the role Poyet needs to fill. There are others that are better than Bridcutt in the central midfield position, but none have worked with Poyet and they would all cost more.

The ball is in their court, if they feel Bridders is vital to their survival then they must pay a price that reflects his importance to them. I am sure that 4 million cash gets the deal done.
Tug, does Poyet want to get one over on Mr. Bloom as much as he wants Bridcutt? The Sunderland board will not play games, the history between Bloom and Poyet will not affect how they try to do business, but they will use Poyet's knowledge of Brighton and his close connection with Bridcutt. We have no idea of what Poyet may have said to his board regarding what, 'he,' thinks it will take to get Bridders. It is possible that the Sunderland board might be prepared to pay more but Poyet is saying, 'hold up, we can get this deal done for less.' The fact is Tug none of us know anything, other than what is being reported in the papers, and they seem to have different versions of what is going on. Transfer request or not, it might be that Liam does not move to Sunderland, he might not move anywhere right now. The fantastic gate numbers we have and the good work done by Barber, means that we don't, 'have,' to sell anyone. If any club wants one of ours then they need to offer what the club feels is a fair price, a deal that both club and fans can live with. Can you imagine what the fans would think if we let Bridcutt go for a paltry 2.5 million, it doesn't matter that it's Sunderland wanting the lad, but that fact does add a little spice to the proceedings. Poyet has a list of players he wants, to buy or borrow, the question is, how far up that list does Bridcutt stand. If the lad is at the top of the list then the offer has to reflect that desire to buy. There is a tipping point regarding the price, the lowest figure we will accept, it appears that Sunderland have not reached that point, but that has nothing to do with Poyet as that is our card to play. Bridders brings something to Sunderland that others can't bring, that being his time working with Poyet in the role Poyet needs to fill. There are others that are better than Bridcutt in the central midfield position, but none have worked with Poyet and they would all cost more. The ball is in their court, if they feel Bridders is vital to their survival then they must pay a price that reflects his importance to them. I am sure that 4 million cash gets the deal done. VegasSeagull

5:25pm Wed 8 Jan 14

DuncanThickett says...

BREAKING!! Transfer request rejected! For now....
BREAKING!! Transfer request rejected! For now.... DuncanThickett

5:26pm Wed 8 Jan 14

tinker111 says...

tinker111 wrote:
tinker111 wrote:
twonk wrote:
You'd have to pay me a fortune to live anywhere near Sunderland,
TO MANY DAMMED TURNCOATS ON HERE BE VERY THANKFULL FOR WHAT GREAT" GUS" DID , YES HE MADE BRIDDERS WHAT HE IS AND NOW HOPE LEIM JOINS A GOOD MANAGER (GUS)
SORRY" LIAM" good Luck to you and so many thanks for all the great displays go join a forward thinking club and not one who hides behind FFP
PITY GUS HAS NOT COME IN FOR BUCKERS AS REPORTED ON HERE 0.5 mil SNAP THE HAND OFF,.Challenging to Hoskins, CMS & Bruno for sick bed
[quote][p][bold]tinker111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinker111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]twonk[/bold] wrote: You'd have to pay me a fortune to live anywhere near Sunderland,[/p][/quote]TO MANY DAMMED TURNCOATS ON HERE BE VERY THANKFULL FOR WHAT GREAT" GUS" DID , YES HE MADE BRIDDERS WHAT HE IS AND NOW HOPE LEIM JOINS A GOOD MANAGER (GUS)[/p][/quote]SORRY" LIAM" good Luck to you and so many thanks for all the great displays go join a forward thinking club and not one who hides behind FFP[/p][/quote]PITY GUS HAS NOT COME IN FOR BUCKERS AS REPORTED ON HERE 0.5 mil SNAP THE HAND OFF,.Challenging to Hoskins, CMS & Bruno for sick bed tinker111

5:32pm Wed 8 Jan 14

tug509 says...

tinker111 wrote:
tinker111 wrote:
twonk wrote:
You'd have to pay me a fortune to live anywhere near Sunderland,
TO MANY DAMMED TURNCOATS ON HERE BE VERY THANKFULL FOR WHAT GREAT" GUS" DID , YES HE MADE BRIDDERS WHAT HE IS AND NOW HOPE LEIM JOINS A GOOD MANAGER (GUS)
SORRY" LIAM" good Luck to you and so many thanks for all the great displays go join a forward thinking club and not one who hides behind FFP
Do you mean how "The Albion" made Bridder`s ,the Albion and all it`s staff ,Doctors ,Physio`s ,Trainer`s ,Neutritionalist`s ,Masseur`s ,Specialist`s in every injury he ever had ,at great expense and abroad . That`s before you credit his team mate`s who must have played a massive roll in his growth as a player ,not to mention the 28,000 singing his praises each week .

Don`t get me wrong Gus Poyet is a Superb manager ,and he played his part in Bridder`s developement ,but don`t kid yourself ,wonderful Gus has a bad side too ,and those with their eye`s open ,and not blindsided by his past will see it ,he care`s not one jot for you or me now ,eetz football !!. UTA
[quote][p][bold]tinker111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinker111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]twonk[/bold] wrote: You'd have to pay me a fortune to live anywhere near Sunderland,[/p][/quote]TO MANY DAMMED TURNCOATS ON HERE BE VERY THANKFULL FOR WHAT GREAT" GUS" DID , YES HE MADE BRIDDERS WHAT HE IS AND NOW HOPE LEIM JOINS A GOOD MANAGER (GUS)[/p][/quote]SORRY" LIAM" good Luck to you and so many thanks for all the great displays go join a forward thinking club and not one who hides behind FFP[/p][/quote]Do you mean how "The Albion" made Bridder`s ,the Albion and all it`s staff ,Doctors ,Physio`s ,Trainer`s ,Neutritionalist`s ,Masseur`s ,Specialist`s in every injury he ever had ,at great expense and abroad . That`s before you credit his team mate`s who must have played a massive roll in his growth as a player ,not to mention the 28,000 singing his praises each week . Don`t get me wrong Gus Poyet is a Superb manager ,and he played his part in Bridder`s developement ,but don`t kid yourself ,wonderful Gus has a bad side too ,and those with their eye`s open ,and not blindsided by his past will see it ,he care`s not one jot for you or me now ,eetz football !!. UTA tug509

5:43pm Wed 8 Jan 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

On the subject of Barnes again,the Mail reports that Albion want £750000.It was reported that Burnley had offered this amount but the paper reports that they offered £450000.It appears Burnley will not increase their offer as they are pursuing a Middllesbrough striker.
On the subject of Barnes again,the Mail reports that Albion want £750000.It was reported that Burnley had offered this amount but the paper reports that they offered £450000.It appears Burnley will not increase their offer as they are pursuing a Middllesbrough striker. SeagullOverSelsey

9:30pm Wed 8 Jan 14

tug509 says...

Vegas mate ,in a nutshell ,i think gus is trying to get liam on the cheap ,they as we now all know ,share an agent ,yeah right ,there has been no conflict of interest here ,**** !. I am an Irishman and proud of it ,i was adopted and brought up in England ,but i am still an Irishman ,likewise gus` south american temperament makes him a little predictable imo.

I see this two ways ,he gets a good player for peanuts ,and screws us in the process ,for what he see`s as an injustice ,which of course it was ,he screwed us in the 2nd leg against croyden ,costing us possible promotion ,no bad feeling here ,i digress . If he fails to get LB on the cheap ,then he succeeds in gaining a valuable player ,and if we dont sell ,he gets to unsettle the lad and the squad at a crucial time ,i`m sorry to say that i now believe he is that bitter towards us .

In honesty ,i am so pro Albion that anyone who trys to upset the balance ,otherwise known as the quo ,can get stuffed ,we struggled long enough in the crap without help from the likes of s,land ,the help we got was from the so called lower teams ,we have paid our dues ,know they must do the same or peee off !.

On a lighter note ,one of those decent clubs ,that did help us ,when it counted are hopefully our next FA cup game, Plymouth ,going try my hardest to get there !. UTA
Vegas mate ,in a nutshell ,i think gus is trying to get liam on the cheap ,they as we now all know ,share an agent ,yeah right ,there has been no conflict of interest here ,**** !. I am an Irishman and proud of it ,i was adopted and brought up in England ,but i am still an Irishman ,likewise gus` south american temperament makes him a little predictable imo. I see this two ways ,he gets a good player for peanuts ,and screws us in the process ,for what he see`s as an injustice ,which of course it was ,he screwed us in the 2nd leg against croyden ,costing us possible promotion ,no bad feeling here ,i digress . If he fails to get LB on the cheap ,then he succeeds in gaining a valuable player ,and if we dont sell ,he gets to unsettle the lad and the squad at a crucial time ,i`m sorry to say that i now believe he is that bitter towards us . In honesty ,i am so pro Albion that anyone who trys to upset the balance ,otherwise known as the quo ,can get stuffed ,we struggled long enough in the crap without help from the likes of s,land ,the help we got was from the so called lower teams ,we have paid our dues ,know they must do the same or peee off !. On a lighter note ,one of those decent clubs ,that did help us ,when it counted are hopefully our next FA cup game, Plymouth ,going try my hardest to get there !. UTA tug509

10:41pm Thu 9 Jan 14

albion64 says...

Just imagine, Sunderland and Palarce playing us next season. Or thinking positive, they'll play each other and we will be in the prem'.
Just imagine, Sunderland and Palarce playing us next season. Or thinking positive, they'll play each other and we will be in the prem'. albion64

5:37pm Tue 14 Jan 14

micklin says...

Gus would not know the truth if it bit him on the arsenal!!
Gus would not know the truth if it bit him on the arsenal!! micklin

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