Transfer window watch: Albion reject Bridcutt transfer request

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Albion have rejected Liam Bridcutt's transfer request.

The Argus reported, via our website, last night that the midfielder had told his club he wanted to leave.

In a brief statement this afternoon, the club said: "Further to reports in today’s media, Brighton and Hove Albion can confirm that a transfer request from Liam Bridcutt was received yesterday afternoon and subsequently has been rejected by the club.

"At this stage the club does not wish to make any further comment on this matter."

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5:28pm Wed 8 Jan 14

andy revell says...

I must say I hadn't expected this!
What effect do you think this will have?
I must say I hadn't expected this! What effect do you think this will have? andy revell

5:31pm Wed 8 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

andy revell wrote:
I must say I hadn't expected this!
What effect do you think this will have?
it ups the bid from Sunderland
[quote][p][bold]andy revell[/bold] wrote: I must say I hadn't expected this! What effect do you think this will have?[/p][/quote]it ups the bid from Sunderland VegasSeagull

5:32pm Wed 8 Jan 14

The Phantom says...

Hope this doesn't escalate to the extent that Bridcutt leaves (as he surely eventually will) on bad terms with the club. Would still expect him to go before the window closes.
Hope this doesn't escalate to the extent that Bridcutt leaves (as he surely eventually will) on bad terms with the club. Would still expect him to go before the window closes. The Phantom

5:36pm Wed 8 Jan 14

saraman says...

Good on yer, Tony Bloom and co. Over to you Poyet, now put your clubs money where your mouth is. Not a penny under £5m.

Brendan Rogers didn't take any truck from Suarez (spelling?). He said you will play in the reserves until you come to your senses. It did him the world of good, look at him now. Do the same to Bridcutt if that what it takes. We don't need him as much now as he thinks we do and the sooner he realises it the better for everyone.
Good on yer, Tony Bloom and co. Over to you Poyet, now put your clubs money where your mouth is. Not a penny under £5m. Brendan Rogers didn't take any truck from Suarez (spelling?). He said you will play in the reserves until you come to your senses. It did him the world of good, look at him now. Do the same to Bridcutt if that what it takes. We don't need him as much now as he thinks we do and the sooner he realises it the better for everyone. saraman

5:36pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Merdalf the Wizard says...

It would appear TB gonna play hardball, good man! Oscar say's he doesn't want to split team up and Tony say's your not for sale, can't ask for more than that!
UTA
It would appear TB gonna play hardball, good man! Oscar say's he doesn't want to split team up and Tony say's your not for sale, can't ask for more than that! UTA Merdalf the Wizard

5:41pm Wed 8 Jan 14

graham w says...

Dont try to play poker with our tony, you will only lose...the next move lies elsewhere. Well done tony if they want our star its going to cost big time, £6mill +.. your move gus....
Dont try to play poker with our tony, you will only lose...the next move lies elsewhere. Well done tony if they want our star its going to cost big time, £6mill +.. your move gus.... graham w

5:42pm Wed 8 Jan 14

mrgull says...

Well done BHA...I don't think Gus will be smiling now...by the way Gus it's nothing to do with me,
Well done BHA...I don't think Gus will be smiling now...by the way Gus it's nothing to do with me, mrgull

5:42pm Wed 8 Jan 14

farside says...

It will either draw a proper bid with good money up front and less conditions or (if Sunderland aren't interested to pay market value) it will lead to Bridcutt withdrawing his request on a gentleman's agreement that he can go in the summer if we are not promoted.
It will either draw a proper bid with good money up front and less conditions or (if Sunderland aren't interested to pay market value) it will lead to Bridcutt withdrawing his request on a gentleman's agreement that he can go in the summer if we are not promoted. farside

5:43pm Wed 8 Jan 14

graham w says...

Dont you just love it....
Dont you just love it.... graham w

5:45pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Clean Sheet says...

Good move Albion. This confirms the club statement that they do not want to lose any of the squad.
Good move Albion. This confirms the club statement that they do not want to lose any of the squad. Clean Sheet

5:46pm Wed 8 Jan 14

dave from bexill says...

farside wrote:
It will either draw a proper bid with good money up front and less conditions or (if Sunderland aren't interested to pay market value) it will lead to Bridcutt withdrawing his request on a gentleman's agreement that he can go in the summer if we are not promoted.
That seems sensible, but do we actually know, other than speculation, what amount the bid was
[quote][p][bold]farside[/bold] wrote: It will either draw a proper bid with good money up front and less conditions or (if Sunderland aren't interested to pay market value) it will lead to Bridcutt withdrawing his request on a gentleman's agreement that he can go in the summer if we are not promoted.[/p][/quote]That seems sensible, but do we actually know, other than speculation, what amount the bid was dave from bexill

5:46pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Aye Aye says...

This will test Sunderland's resolve; every player has his price and, if the offer's right, I'm fairly sure we'll nail the sale. It's absolutely right that this deal, if there's one to be done, is on our terms so the rejection of LB's transfer request is the only step to take. There is still a long way between £2.5M and £5M so this is going to be an interesting window!
This will test Sunderland's resolve; every player has his price and, if the offer's right, I'm fairly sure we'll nail the sale. It's absolutely right that this deal, if there's one to be done, is on our terms so the rejection of LB's transfer request is the only step to take. There is still a long way between £2.5M and £5M so this is going to be an interesting window! Aye Aye

5:54pm Wed 8 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Don't rule out another club getting interested, especially as they now know how the water lies. I have been wondering why at least one other club has not made a bid, perhaps now we might see one, they all now know the price range within which to make an offer. I still say that 4 million cash would get the deal done.
Don't rule out another club getting interested, especially as they now know how the water lies. I have been wondering why at least one other club has not made a bid, perhaps now we might see one, they all now know the price range within which to make an offer. I still say that 4 million cash would get the deal done. VegasSeagull

5:55pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Alfie T says...

graham w wrote:
Dont try to play poker with our tony, you will only lose...the next move lies elsewhere. Well done tony if they want our star its going to cost big time, £6mill +.. your move gus....
Yep, don't mess with the lizard .......:-)
[quote][p][bold]graham w [/bold] wrote: Dont try to play poker with our tony, you will only lose...the next move lies elsewhere. Well done tony if they want our star its going to cost big time, £6mill +.. your move gus....[/p][/quote]Yep, don't mess with the lizard .......:-) Alfie T

5:55pm Wed 8 Jan 14

tug509 says...

WELL DONE MR BLOOM ,it`s a shame Liam didn`t look for advice from TB ,a transfer may have been a little easier to negotiate ,before he put in a transfer request ,now your held to a contract until GP plays fair or ,at the club`s convenience until June 30th 2015 !. ...GO TONY BLOOM !!!!!.
WELL DONE MR BLOOM ,it`s a shame Liam didn`t look for advice from TB ,a transfer may have been a little easier to negotiate ,before he put in a transfer request ,now your held to a contract until GP plays fair or ,at the club`s convenience until June 30th 2015 !. ...GO TONY BLOOM !!!!!. tug509

5:58pm Wed 8 Jan 14

mickagull says...

We'll done, the club is king. If a player signs a contract for a set period of time, then they have agreed that they will be happy to play for that club for that period of time with the terms and conditions on the contract they have signed. Contracts should be there to as an agreement to protect all party's.
We'll done, the club is king. If a player signs a contract for a set period of time, then they have agreed that they will be happy to play for that club for that period of time with the terms and conditions on the contract they have signed. Contracts should be there to as an agreement to protect all party's. mickagull

5:58pm Wed 8 Jan 14

saraman says...

I wonder what Burnley will think of The Albion's stance over Bridcutt in regards to Barnes, and indeed what does Barnes think of it considering his reluctance to sign a new contract. We are no longer a tin pot club that needs to sell to survive. We call the shots now. I'm 100% behind you Tony.
I wonder what Burnley will think of The Albion's stance over Bridcutt in regards to Barnes, and indeed what does Barnes think of it considering his reluctance to sign a new contract. We are no longer a tin pot club that needs to sell to survive. We call the shots now. I'm 100% behind you Tony. saraman

5:58pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Cap'n Pugwash says...

saraman wrote:
Good on yer, Tony Bloom and co. Over to you Poyet, now put your clubs money where your mouth is. Not a penny under £5m.

Brendan Rogers didn't take any truck from Suarez (spelling?). He said you will play in the reserves until you come to your senses. It did him the world of good, look at him now. Do the same to Bridcutt if that what it takes. We don't need him as much now as he thinks we do and the sooner he realises it the better for everyone.
That would be the £5M that Poyet said was a minimum he'd accept for Bridcutt when he was manager here?

Now he's trying to bully The Albion into letting him go on the cheap. If Poyet had finished the job properly when he had the opportunity we'd be in the PL now and our players wouldn't be looking to leave the club.
[quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: Good on yer, Tony Bloom and co. Over to you Poyet, now put your clubs money where your mouth is. Not a penny under £5m. Brendan Rogers didn't take any truck from Suarez (spelling?). He said you will play in the reserves until you come to your senses. It did him the world of good, look at him now. Do the same to Bridcutt if that what it takes. We don't need him as much now as he thinks we do and the sooner he realises it the better for everyone.[/p][/quote]That would be the £5M that Poyet said was a minimum he'd accept for Bridcutt when he was manager here? Now he's trying to bully The Albion into letting him go on the cheap. If Poyet had finished the job properly when he had the opportunity we'd be in the PL now and our players wouldn't be looking to leave the club. Cap'n Pugwash

5:59pm Wed 8 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Ok Westham, wake up and smell the coffee, get your 4 million bid in now, you know you want to, and need to.
Ok Westham, wake up and smell the coffee, get your 4 million bid in now, you know you want to, and need to. VegasSeagull

6:01pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

I might have to start calling him Liam the Unready...
I might have to start calling him Liam the Unready... Ex-pat Arnie

6:02pm Wed 8 Jan 14

SuperSeagull92 says...

An attempt to raise the price? With the FFP this season i fully expect him to be sold before the end of the window. We do have strength in depth in our midfield, and the emergence of Rohan Ince in particular will surely ease the pain if he does depart. Would be very disappointed if less than 3m plus add-ons!
An attempt to raise the price? With the FFP this season i fully expect him to be sold before the end of the window. We do have strength in depth in our midfield, and the emergence of Rohan Ince in particular will surely ease the pain if he does depart. Would be very disappointed if less than 3m plus add-ons! SuperSeagull92

6:02pm Wed 8 Jan 14

klemaniac says...

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Albion have completed the signing of Jonathan Obika on an initial one-month deal from Spurs, and the 23-year-old striker will be available for Saturday’s game against Birmingham City at the Amex (kick-off 3pm). Read more at http://www.seagulls. co.uk/news/article/a lbion-add-striker-12 82260.aspx#cBe12Of80 Tvtt0at.99 klemaniac

6:03pm Wed 8 Jan 14

pablobrowno says...

I believe the same thing happened with Mr Bennett, appreciate Bridcutt may be frustrated but the club are simply saying they will not have their hand forced by a player. Of course a deal could still go through at the right price and with the club's blessing. Liam will be able to make up with the fans either way, he's been a fantastic servant and given us everything so we have to appreciate this is just business for him and the club. We can't blame him for wanting this opportunity.
I believe the same thing happened with Mr Bennett, appreciate Bridcutt may be frustrated but the club are simply saying they will not have their hand forced by a player. Of course a deal could still go through at the right price and with the club's blessing. Liam will be able to make up with the fans either way, he's been a fantastic servant and given us everything so we have to appreciate this is just business for him and the club. We can't blame him for wanting this opportunity. pablobrowno

6:06pm Wed 8 Jan 14

tug509 says...

pablobrowno wrote:
I believe the same thing happened with Mr Bennett, appreciate Bridcutt may be frustrated but the club are simply saying they will not have their hand forced by a player. Of course a deal could still go through at the right price and with the club's blessing. Liam will be able to make up with the fans either way, he's been a fantastic servant and given us everything so we have to appreciate this is just business for him and the club. We can't blame him for wanting this opportunity.
Not for wanting the move ,but for the way he has gone about it !.
[quote][p][bold]pablobrowno[/bold] wrote: I believe the same thing happened with Mr Bennett, appreciate Bridcutt may be frustrated but the club are simply saying they will not have their hand forced by a player. Of course a deal could still go through at the right price and with the club's blessing. Liam will be able to make up with the fans either way, he's been a fantastic servant and given us everything so we have to appreciate this is just business for him and the club. We can't blame him for wanting this opportunity.[/p][/quote]Not for wanting the move ,but for the way he has gone about it !. tug509

6:08pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Aye Aye says...

So, Obika has finally signed. I'm sure there'll be a comment or two on that!
So, Obika has finally signed. I'm sure there'll be a comment or two on that! Aye Aye

6:09pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Alfie T says...

I understand we are close to signing Obika!
I understand we are close to signing Obika! Alfie T

6:09pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Aye Aye says...

Aye Aye wrote:
So, Obika has finally signed. I'm sure there'll be a comment or two on that!
......it is only for a month though!!
[quote][p][bold]Aye Aye[/bold] wrote: So, Obika has finally signed. I'm sure there'll be a comment or two on that![/p][/quote]......it is only for a month though!! Aye Aye

6:11pm Wed 8 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

pablobrowno wrote:
I believe the same thing happened with Mr Bennett, appreciate Bridcutt may be frustrated but the club are simply saying they will not have their hand forced by a player. Of course a deal could still go through at the right price and with the club's blessing. Liam will be able to make up with the fans either way, he's been a fantastic servant and given us everything so we have to appreciate this is just business for him and the club. We can't blame him for wanting this opportunity.
Agree with what you say about Bridcutt deserving his chance but I wonder what he thinks about such a low offer being made for him. The lad is not stupid, he knows his value, does he only see himself as a 2.5 million midfield defender, at prem level that makes you back up option and rarely a regular starter.
[quote][p][bold]pablobrowno[/bold] wrote: I believe the same thing happened with Mr Bennett, appreciate Bridcutt may be frustrated but the club are simply saying they will not have their hand forced by a player. Of course a deal could still go through at the right price and with the club's blessing. Liam will be able to make up with the fans either way, he's been a fantastic servant and given us everything so we have to appreciate this is just business for him and the club. We can't blame him for wanting this opportunity.[/p][/quote]Agree with what you say about Bridcutt deserving his chance but I wonder what he thinks about such a low offer being made for him. The lad is not stupid, he knows his value, does he only see himself as a 2.5 million midfield defender, at prem level that makes you back up option and rarely a regular starter. VegasSeagull

6:11pm Wed 8 Jan 14

marksmith198000 says...

you've got to remember that if you value a player at £5 million, then their wages should be in accordance.

ie will TB pay Bridcutt over 20k a week? no chance

take the £2.5 million and get a new striker! you don't want him sitting in the reserves and missing out on the money!
you've got to remember that if you value a player at £5 million, then their wages should be in accordance. ie will TB pay Bridcutt over 20k a week? no chance take the £2.5 million and get a new striker! you don't want him sitting in the reserves and missing out on the money! marksmith198000

6:15pm Wed 8 Jan 14

tug509 says...

marksmith198000 wrote:
you've got to remember that if you value a player at £5 million, then their wages should be in accordance.

ie will TB pay Bridcutt over 20k a week? no chance

take the £2.5 million and get a new striker! you don't want him sitting in the reserves and missing out on the money!
We didn`t value LB at 5m ,GP did !
[quote][p][bold]marksmith198000[/bold] wrote: you've got to remember that if you value a player at £5 million, then their wages should be in accordance. ie will TB pay Bridcutt over 20k a week? no chance take the £2.5 million and get a new striker! you don't want him sitting in the reserves and missing out on the money![/p][/quote]We didn`t value LB at 5m ,GP did ! tug509

6:23pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Withdean-er says...

The Phantom wrote:
Hope this doesn't escalate to the extent that Bridcutt leaves (as he surely eventually will) on bad terms with the club. Would still expect him to go before the window closes.
Nothing to worry about. This is completely normal in pro football. He will remain with us for another 18 months, or until such time that a club comes up with the Board's full valuation and it's a club that the Board are happy to sell to.

Sunderland's offer must have been to low.

This Board will keep it professional and polite.

In addition, Bridcutt by handing in a request, has forfeited any leaving bonuses / golden handshake that he would have been entitled to on departure of he left in any other circumstances - possibly saving the club some money.
[quote][p][bold]The Phantom[/bold] wrote: Hope this doesn't escalate to the extent that Bridcutt leaves (as he surely eventually will) on bad terms with the club. Would still expect him to go before the window closes.[/p][/quote]Nothing to worry about. This is completely normal in pro football. He will remain with us for another 18 months, or until such time that a club comes up with the Board's full valuation and it's a club that the Board are happy to sell to. Sunderland's offer must have been to low. This Board will keep it professional and polite. In addition, Bridcutt by handing in a request, has forfeited any leaving bonuses / golden handshake that he would have been entitled to on departure of he left in any other circumstances - possibly saving the club some money. Withdean-er

6:28pm Wed 8 Jan 14

impose our game gull says...

It'll be a principle thing and quite right too. I expect they'd sell to another club at a similar figure.

It'd be a shame for Liam "playing" wise to move and be down in perhaps 10 performances/ matches time when he could be with us in the premiership I suspect (or at least a team more likely stay up)
It'll be a principle thing and quite right too. I expect they'd sell to another club at a similar figure. It'd be a shame for Liam "playing" wise to move and be down in perhaps 10 performances/ matches time when he could be with us in the premiership I suspect (or at least a team more likely stay up) impose our game gull

6:32pm Wed 8 Jan 14

marksmith198000 says...

tug509 wrote:
marksmith198000 wrote:
you've got to remember that if you value a player at £5 million, then their wages should be in accordance.

ie will TB pay Bridcutt over 20k a week? no chance

take the £2.5 million and get a new striker! you don't want him sitting in the reserves and missing out on the money!
We didn`t value LB at 5m ,GP did !
it doesn't matter who valued him at that, if Sunderland don't come back with another offer is TB going to give LB a contract according to what he values him at?

you can't expect £5 million for a player, if you're not gonna give him a suitable contract if no one offers that much!

LB is going to double his wages at least if he goes...every fan on here thinks about the club and never about the player
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marksmith198000[/bold] wrote: you've got to remember that if you value a player at £5 million, then their wages should be in accordance. ie will TB pay Bridcutt over 20k a week? no chance take the £2.5 million and get a new striker! you don't want him sitting in the reserves and missing out on the money![/p][/quote]We didn`t value LB at 5m ,GP did ![/p][/quote]it doesn't matter who valued him at that, if Sunderland don't come back with another offer is TB going to give LB a contract according to what he values him at? you can't expect £5 million for a player, if you're not gonna give him a suitable contract if no one offers that much! LB is going to double his wages at least if he goes...every fan on here thinks about the club and never about the player marksmith198000

6:33pm Wed 8 Jan 14

phumps says...

marksmith198000 wrote:
you've got to remember that if you value a player at £5 million, then their wages should be in accordance.

ie will TB pay Bridcutt over 20k a week? no chance

take the £2.5 million and get a new striker! you don't want him sitting in the reserves and missing out on the money!
No I think you will find TB pays Liam the money he was happy to sign a contract for !!
[quote][p][bold]marksmith198000[/bold] wrote: you've got to remember that if you value a player at £5 million, then their wages should be in accordance. ie will TB pay Bridcutt over 20k a week? no chance take the £2.5 million and get a new striker! you don't want him sitting in the reserves and missing out on the money![/p][/quote]No I think you will find TB pays Liam the money he was happy to sign a contract for !! phumps

6:48pm Wed 8 Jan 14

marksmith198000 says...

phumps wrote:
marksmith198000 wrote:
you've got to remember that if you value a player at £5 million, then their wages should be in accordance.

ie will TB pay Bridcutt over 20k a week? no chance

take the £2.5 million and get a new striker! you don't want him sitting in the reserves and missing out on the money!
No I think you will find TB pays Liam the money he was happy to sign a contract for !!
so you're telling me, if someone offered you double your wages, and your boss wouldn't let you go.

you'd say 'it's fine, ill stay here at the lower wages instead of going to a premiership club for more than double my wages. even though you value me at £4 million, i'll stay at wages of someone who's worth £1 million'

its too easy to say when its not you
[quote][p][bold]phumps[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marksmith198000[/bold] wrote: you've got to remember that if you value a player at £5 million, then their wages should be in accordance. ie will TB pay Bridcutt over 20k a week? no chance take the £2.5 million and get a new striker! you don't want him sitting in the reserves and missing out on the money![/p][/quote]No I think you will find TB pays Liam the money he was happy to sign a contract for !![/p][/quote]so you're telling me, if someone offered you double your wages, and your boss wouldn't let you go. you'd say 'it's fine, ill stay here at the lower wages instead of going to a premiership club for more than double my wages. even though you value me at £4 million, i'll stay at wages of someone who's worth £1 million' its too easy to say when its not you marksmith198000

6:48pm Wed 8 Jan 14

phumps says...

marksmith198000 wrote:
tug509 wrote:
marksmith198000 wrote:
you've got to remember that if you value a player at £5 million, then their wages should be in accordance.

ie will TB pay Bridcutt over 20k a week? no chance

take the £2.5 million and get a new striker! you don't want him sitting in the reserves and missing out on the money!
We didn`t value LB at 5m ,GP did !
it doesn't matter who valued him at that, if Sunderland don't come back with another offer is TB going to give LB a contract according to what he values him at?

you can't expect £5 million for a player, if you're not gonna give him a suitable contract if no one offers that much!

LB is going to double his wages at least if he goes...every fan on here thinks about the club and never about the player
And you see no problem with a player wanting to renege on a contract that he signed to 2015!!
[quote][p][bold]marksmith198000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marksmith198000[/bold] wrote: you've got to remember that if you value a player at £5 million, then their wages should be in accordance. ie will TB pay Bridcutt over 20k a week? no chance take the £2.5 million and get a new striker! you don't want him sitting in the reserves and missing out on the money![/p][/quote]We didn`t value LB at 5m ,GP did ![/p][/quote]it doesn't matter who valued him at that, if Sunderland don't come back with another offer is TB going to give LB a contract according to what he values him at? you can't expect £5 million for a player, if you're not gonna give him a suitable contract if no one offers that much! LB is going to double his wages at least if he goes...every fan on here thinks about the club and never about the player[/p][/quote]And you see no problem with a player wanting to renege on a contract that he signed to 2015!! phumps

6:53pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Hovite says...

Gus will get Liam eventually, but the question is when does he want him by?

This Saturday? or the 30th January?

I don't think we are in any rush but Gus needs him now.

Sunderland will be under pressure to make a decision quickly, and Bloom can just put his feet up.

Fascinating game this.
Gus will get Liam eventually, but the question is when does he want him by? This Saturday? or the 30th January? I don't think we are in any rush but Gus needs him now. Sunderland will be under pressure to make a decision quickly, and Bloom can just put his feet up. Fascinating game this. Hovite

6:54pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Far gull says...

It does make one smile all these senenagins ( spell check even threw a wobbly ! ) prem clubs pay 10-20-30 million for un tried and tested foreign players in Uk conditions ..aka spurs ..lamela etc, bizarre sums for say Andy Carroll then someone as good as Liam who would be as good quite frankly as any of the good 'water carriers' (sorry for term but it accurately describes them) of any era such as Claude Makelle or Dider Deshamps and Sunderland (Gus) think they can get him for 2.5 , On yer bike ,well done to all in the club for rejecting these ridiculous offers .
It does make one smile all these senenagins ( spell check even threw a wobbly ! ) prem clubs pay 10-20-30 million for un tried and tested foreign players in Uk conditions ..aka spurs ..lamela etc, bizarre sums for say Andy Carroll then someone as good as Liam who would be as good quite frankly as any of the good 'water carriers' (sorry for term but it accurately describes them) of any era such as Claude Makelle or Dider Deshamps and Sunderland (Gus) think they can get him for 2.5 , On yer bike ,well done to all in the club for rejecting these ridiculous offers . Far gull

6:56pm Wed 8 Jan 14

tug509 says...

Withdean-er wrote:
The Phantom wrote:
Hope this doesn't escalate to the extent that Bridcutt leaves (as he surely eventually will) on bad terms with the club. Would still expect him to go before the window closes.
Nothing to worry about. This is completely normal in pro football. He will remain with us for another 18 months, or until such time that a club comes up with the Board's full valuation and it's a club that the Board are happy to sell to.

Sunderland's offer must have been to low.

This Board will keep it professional and polite.

In addition, Bridcutt by handing in a request, has forfeited any leaving bonuses / golden handshake that he would have been entitled to on departure of he left in any other circumstances - possibly saving the club some money.
Absolutely ,and here`s a thought ,we don`t let him go now ,we get promoted and Sunderland go down ,will he still want a move ?. All speculation of course ,but very possible ,i cant get over Oscar`s figure`s ,we all know how bad our injuries have been ,but we are better of than last season ,with far less absentees ?! ,but that was for gus, this man has what we need to go up ,,i don`t want to make the same error this time ,my heart and head say this guy is different ,gus was like a kid in the back seat ..are we there yet..are we there yet ! ,i think when we finally arrive it will be with far more finesse` . UTA
[quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Phantom[/bold] wrote: Hope this doesn't escalate to the extent that Bridcutt leaves (as he surely eventually will) on bad terms with the club. Would still expect him to go before the window closes.[/p][/quote]Nothing to worry about. This is completely normal in pro football. He will remain with us for another 18 months, or until such time that a club comes up with the Board's full valuation and it's a club that the Board are happy to sell to. Sunderland's offer must have been to low. This Board will keep it professional and polite. In addition, Bridcutt by handing in a request, has forfeited any leaving bonuses / golden handshake that he would have been entitled to on departure of he left in any other circumstances - possibly saving the club some money.[/p][/quote]Absolutely ,and here`s a thought ,we don`t let him go now ,we get promoted and Sunderland go down ,will he still want a move ?. All speculation of course ,but very possible ,i cant get over Oscar`s figure`s ,we all know how bad our injuries have been ,but we are better of than last season ,with far less absentees ?! ,but that was for gus, this man has what we need to go up ,,i don`t want to make the same error this time ,my heart and head say this guy is different ,gus was like a kid in the back seat ..are we there yet..are we there yet ! ,i think when we finally arrive it will be with far more finesse` . UTA tug509

6:58pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Claude Back says...

marksmith198000 wrote:
you've got to remember that if you value a player at £5 million, then their wages should be in accordance.

ie will TB pay Bridcutt over 20k a week? no chance

take the £2.5 million and get a new striker! you don't want him sitting in the reserves and missing out on the money!
A sensible post.
If Albion refuse LB a transfer he will be no use to anyone and eventually go in the summer for a lower figure than £3m. Plus, what sort of performances do you think he will give and what effect on team morale with him whingeing about it?
Sunderland have very limited cash and nobody is going to pay £5m for LB.
[quote][p][bold]marksmith198000[/bold] wrote: you've got to remember that if you value a player at £5 million, then their wages should be in accordance. ie will TB pay Bridcutt over 20k a week? no chance take the £2.5 million and get a new striker! you don't want him sitting in the reserves and missing out on the money![/p][/quote]A sensible post. If Albion refuse LB a transfer he will be no use to anyone and eventually go in the summer for a lower figure than £3m. Plus, what sort of performances do you think he will give and what effect on team morale with him whingeing about it? Sunderland have very limited cash and nobody is going to pay £5m for LB. Claude Back

7:02pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Claude Back says...

tug509 wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
The Phantom wrote:
Hope this doesn't escalate to the extent that Bridcutt leaves (as he surely eventually will) on bad terms with the club. Would still expect him to go before the window closes.
Nothing to worry about. This is completely normal in pro football. He will remain with us for another 18 months, or until such time that a club comes up with the Board's full valuation and it's a club that the Board are happy to sell to.

Sunderland's offer must have been to low.

This Board will keep it professional and polite.

In addition, Bridcutt by handing in a request, has forfeited any leaving bonuses / golden handshake that he would have been entitled to on departure of he left in any other circumstances - possibly saving the club some money.
Absolutely ,and here`s a thought ,we don`t let him go now ,we get promoted and Sunderland go down ,will he still want a move ?. All speculation of course ,but very possible ,i cant get over Oscar`s figure`s ,we all know how bad our injuries have been ,but we are better of than last season ,with far less absentees ?! ,but that was for gus, this man has what we need to go up ,,i don`t want to make the same error this time ,my heart and head say this guy is different ,gus was like a kid in the back seat ..are we there yet..are we there yet ! ,i think when we finally arrive it will be with far more finesse` . UTA
These are all mostly Gus' players though, aren't they? Oscar hasn't actually signed anyone yet. Even Obika is NJ's signing.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Phantom[/bold] wrote: Hope this doesn't escalate to the extent that Bridcutt leaves (as he surely eventually will) on bad terms with the club. Would still expect him to go before the window closes.[/p][/quote]Nothing to worry about. This is completely normal in pro football. He will remain with us for another 18 months, or until such time that a club comes up with the Board's full valuation and it's a club that the Board are happy to sell to. Sunderland's offer must have been to low. This Board will keep it professional and polite. In addition, Bridcutt by handing in a request, has forfeited any leaving bonuses / golden handshake that he would have been entitled to on departure of he left in any other circumstances - possibly saving the club some money.[/p][/quote]Absolutely ,and here`s a thought ,we don`t let him go now ,we get promoted and Sunderland go down ,will he still want a move ?. All speculation of course ,but very possible ,i cant get over Oscar`s figure`s ,we all know how bad our injuries have been ,but we are better of than last season ,with far less absentees ?! ,but that was for gus, this man has what we need to go up ,,i don`t want to make the same error this time ,my heart and head say this guy is different ,gus was like a kid in the back seat ..are we there yet..are we there yet ! ,i think when we finally arrive it will be with far more finesse` . UTA[/p][/quote]These are all mostly Gus' players though, aren't they? Oscar hasn't actually signed anyone yet. Even Obika is NJ's signing. Claude Back

7:13pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Baldseagull says...

marksmith198000 wrote:
phumps wrote:
marksmith198000 wrote:
you've got to remember that if you value a player at £5 million, then their wages should be in accordance.

ie will TB pay Bridcutt over 20k a week? no chance

take the £2.5 million and get a new striker! you don't want him sitting in the reserves and missing out on the money!
No I think you will find TB pays Liam the money he was happy to sign a contract for !!
so you're telling me, if someone offered you double your wages, and your boss wouldn't let you go.

you'd say 'it's fine, ill stay here at the lower wages instead of going to a premiership club for more than double my wages. even though you value me at £4 million, i'll stay at wages of someone who's worth £1 million'

its too easy to say when its not you
I don't think you understand what a contract is.
[quote][p][bold]marksmith198000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phumps[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marksmith198000[/bold] wrote: you've got to remember that if you value a player at £5 million, then their wages should be in accordance. ie will TB pay Bridcutt over 20k a week? no chance take the £2.5 million and get a new striker! you don't want him sitting in the reserves and missing out on the money![/p][/quote]No I think you will find TB pays Liam the money he was happy to sign a contract for !![/p][/quote]so you're telling me, if someone offered you double your wages, and your boss wouldn't let you go. you'd say 'it's fine, ill stay here at the lower wages instead of going to a premiership club for more than double my wages. even though you value me at £4 million, i'll stay at wages of someone who's worth £1 million' its too easy to say when its not you[/p][/quote]I don't think you understand what a contract is. Baldseagull

7:13pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Neville says...

Lots of usual speculation about what may happen but no manager will want to keep an unhappy player and Bridcutt will leave,with an upped offer. There is no way BHAFC will allow him to work his contract out and leave for free,that is just not going to happen. If Sunderland cannot raise the offer then he may well remain until close season when the price will be agreed,similar to Elliott Bennett scenario.
I also think Barnes will go,never a word on him resigning his contract offer. How about getting Conway back now?
Lots of usual speculation about what may happen but no manager will want to keep an unhappy player and Bridcutt will leave,with an upped offer. There is no way BHAFC will allow him to work his contract out and leave for free,that is just not going to happen. If Sunderland cannot raise the offer then he may well remain until close season when the price will be agreed,similar to Elliott Bennett scenario. I also think Barnes will go,never a word on him resigning his contract offer. How about getting Conway back now? Neville

7:16pm Wed 8 Jan 14

phumps says...

Claude Back wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
The Phantom wrote:
Hope this doesn't escalate to the extent that Bridcutt leaves (as he surely eventually will) on bad terms with the club. Would still expect him to go before the window closes.
Nothing to worry about. This is completely normal in pro football. He will remain with us for another 18 months, or until such time that a club comes up with the Board's full valuation and it's a club that the Board are happy to sell to.

Sunderland's offer must have been to low.

This Board will keep it professional and polite.

In addition, Bridcutt by handing in a request, has forfeited any leaving bonuses / golden handshake that he would have been entitled to on departure of he left in any other circumstances - possibly saving the club some money.
Absolutely ,and here`s a thought ,we don`t let him go now ,we get promoted and Sunderland go down ,will he still want a move ?. All speculation of course ,but very possible ,i cant get over Oscar`s figure`s ,we all know how bad our injuries have been ,but we are better of than last season ,with far less absentees ?! ,but that was for gus, this man has what we need to go up ,,i don`t want to make the same error this time ,my heart and head say this guy is different ,gus was like a kid in the back seat ..are we there yet..are we there yet ! ,i think when we finally arrive it will be with far more finesse` . UTA
These are all mostly Gus' players though, aren't they? Oscar hasn't actually signed anyone yet. Even Obika is NJ's signing.
Think you'll find they are BHAFC players not Gus's
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Phantom[/bold] wrote: Hope this doesn't escalate to the extent that Bridcutt leaves (as he surely eventually will) on bad terms with the club. Would still expect him to go before the window closes.[/p][/quote]Nothing to worry about. This is completely normal in pro football. He will remain with us for another 18 months, or until such time that a club comes up with the Board's full valuation and it's a club that the Board are happy to sell to. Sunderland's offer must have been to low. This Board will keep it professional and polite. In addition, Bridcutt by handing in a request, has forfeited any leaving bonuses / golden handshake that he would have been entitled to on departure of he left in any other circumstances - possibly saving the club some money.[/p][/quote]Absolutely ,and here`s a thought ,we don`t let him go now ,we get promoted and Sunderland go down ,will he still want a move ?. All speculation of course ,but very possible ,i cant get over Oscar`s figure`s ,we all know how bad our injuries have been ,but we are better of than last season ,with far less absentees ?! ,but that was for gus, this man has what we need to go up ,,i don`t want to make the same error this time ,my heart and head say this guy is different ,gus was like a kid in the back seat ..are we there yet..are we there yet ! ,i think when we finally arrive it will be with far more finesse` . UTA[/p][/quote]These are all mostly Gus' players though, aren't they? Oscar hasn't actually signed anyone yet. Even Obika is NJ's signing.[/p][/quote]Think you'll find they are BHAFC players not Gus's phumps

7:17pm Wed 8 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Claude Back wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
The Phantom wrote:
Hope this doesn't escalate to the extent that Bridcutt leaves (as he surely eventually will) on bad terms with the club. Would still expect him to go before the window closes.
Nothing to worry about. This is completely normal in pro football. He will remain with us for another 18 months, or until such time that a club comes up with the Board's full valuation and it's a club that the Board are happy to sell to.

Sunderland's offer must have been to low.

This Board will keep it professional and polite.

In addition, Bridcutt by handing in a request, has forfeited any leaving bonuses / golden handshake that he would have been entitled to on departure of he left in any other circumstances - possibly saving the club some money.
Absolutely ,and here`s a thought ,we don`t let him go now ,we get promoted and Sunderland go down ,will he still want a move ?. All speculation of course ,but very possible ,i cant get over Oscar`s figure`s ,we all know how bad our injuries have been ,but we are better of than last season ,with far less absentees ?! ,but that was for gus, this man has what we need to go up ,,i don`t want to make the same error this time ,my heart and head say this guy is different ,gus was like a kid in the back seat ..are we there yet..are we there yet ! ,i think when we finally arrive it will be with far more finesse` . UTA
These are all mostly Gus' players though, aren't they? Oscar hasn't actually signed anyone yet. Even Obika is NJ's signing.
Jones has a role to play this year which he probably won't have next year, he represents the knowledge of payers in the English game that Oscar came without having. This season should be enough to bring Oscar up to speed. Jones has close up knowledge of Obika.
What Oscar has done, that Jones probably could not do, is bring out the best in the young lads.
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Phantom[/bold] wrote: Hope this doesn't escalate to the extent that Bridcutt leaves (as he surely eventually will) on bad terms with the club. Would still expect him to go before the window closes.[/p][/quote]Nothing to worry about. This is completely normal in pro football. He will remain with us for another 18 months, or until such time that a club comes up with the Board's full valuation and it's a club that the Board are happy to sell to. Sunderland's offer must have been to low. This Board will keep it professional and polite. In addition, Bridcutt by handing in a request, has forfeited any leaving bonuses / golden handshake that he would have been entitled to on departure of he left in any other circumstances - possibly saving the club some money.[/p][/quote]Absolutely ,and here`s a thought ,we don`t let him go now ,we get promoted and Sunderland go down ,will he still want a move ?. All speculation of course ,but very possible ,i cant get over Oscar`s figure`s ,we all know how bad our injuries have been ,but we are better of than last season ,with far less absentees ?! ,but that was for gus, this man has what we need to go up ,,i don`t want to make the same error this time ,my heart and head say this guy is different ,gus was like a kid in the back seat ..are we there yet..are we there yet ! ,i think when we finally arrive it will be with far more finesse` . UTA[/p][/quote]These are all mostly Gus' players though, aren't they? Oscar hasn't actually signed anyone yet. Even Obika is NJ's signing.[/p][/quote]Jones has a role to play this year which he probably won't have next year, he represents the knowledge of payers in the English game that Oscar came without having. This season should be enough to bring Oscar up to speed. Jones has close up knowledge of Obika. What Oscar has done, that Jones probably could not do, is bring out the best in the young lads. VegasSeagull

7:17pm Wed 8 Jan 14

tug509 says...

Claude Back wrote:
marksmith198000 wrote:
you've got to remember that if you value a player at £5 million, then their wages should be in accordance.

ie will TB pay Bridcutt over 20k a week? no chance

take the £2.5 million and get a new striker! you don't want him sitting in the reserves and missing out on the money!
A sensible post.
If Albion refuse LB a transfer he will be no use to anyone and eventually go in the summer for a lower figure than £3m. Plus, what sort of performances do you think he will give and what effect on team morale with him whingeing about it?
Sunderland have very limited cash and nobody is going to pay £5m for LB.
How can you say that ,first gus rated him at 5m ,and frankly if Sunderland havn`t got the money ,dont come for the player !. And as LB is contracted to us until 2015 ,just how is he going to leave in the summer !.
I would suggest ,we are all a little wound up over this ,one way or the other ,but bottom line ,S,land pay fair wack ,or LB could sit on the DS bench until Summer 2015 ,and gus liam or his slug could legally do nothing about it !.
And in 18 months ,it wont be how much ,it would be ....who?.

Who in their right mind would want such a scenario ,none i hope ,i am just pointing out the worst . Liam has been good for us ,and we equally have been good for him ,sensible recompence is all that is required . UTA
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marksmith198000[/bold] wrote: you've got to remember that if you value a player at £5 million, then their wages should be in accordance. ie will TB pay Bridcutt over 20k a week? no chance take the £2.5 million and get a new striker! you don't want him sitting in the reserves and missing out on the money![/p][/quote]A sensible post. If Albion refuse LB a transfer he will be no use to anyone and eventually go in the summer for a lower figure than £3m. Plus, what sort of performances do you think he will give and what effect on team morale with him whingeing about it? Sunderland have very limited cash and nobody is going to pay £5m for LB.[/p][/quote]How can you say that ,first gus rated him at 5m ,and frankly if Sunderland havn`t got the money ,dont come for the player !. And as LB is contracted to us until 2015 ,just how is he going to leave in the summer !. I would suggest ,we are all a little wound up over this ,one way or the other ,but bottom line ,S,land pay fair wack ,or LB could sit on the DS bench until Summer 2015 ,and gus liam or his slug could legally do nothing about it !. And in 18 months ,it wont be how much ,it would be ....who?. Who in their right mind would want such a scenario ,none i hope ,i am just pointing out the worst . Liam has been good for us ,and we equally have been good for him ,sensible recompence is all that is required . UTA tug509

7:22pm Wed 8 Jan 14

mrgull says...

T B has proven once already that nobody is bigger than the club....regardless of being a manager ,,player...or a suit. I have sympathy with Bridders,but having said that TB has to think of the Clubs future before all else
T B has proven once already that nobody is bigger than the club....regardless of being a manager ,,player...or a suit. I have sympathy with Bridders,but having said that TB has to think of the Clubs future before all else mrgull

7:25pm Wed 8 Jan 14

tug509 says...

Claude Back wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
The Phantom wrote:
Hope this doesn't escalate to the extent that Bridcutt leaves (as he surely eventually will) on bad terms with the club. Would still expect him to go before the window closes.
Nothing to worry about. This is completely normal in pro football. He will remain with us for another 18 months, or until such time that a club comes up with the Board's full valuation and it's a club that the Board are happy to sell to.

Sunderland's offer must have been to low.

This Board will keep it professional and polite.

In addition, Bridcutt by handing in a request, has forfeited any leaving bonuses / golden handshake that he would have been entitled to on departure of he left in any other circumstances - possibly saving the club some money.
Absolutely ,and here`s a thought ,we don`t let him go now ,we get promoted and Sunderland go down ,will he still want a move ?. All speculation of course ,but very possible ,i cant get over Oscar`s figure`s ,we all know how bad our injuries have been ,but we are better of than last season ,with far less absentees ?! ,but that was for gus, this man has what we need to go up ,,i don`t want to make the same error this time ,my heart and head say this guy is different ,gus was like a kid in the back seat ..are we there yet..are we there yet ! ,i think when we finally arrive it will be with far more finesse` . UTA
These are all mostly Gus' players though, aren't they? Oscar hasn't actually signed anyone yet. Even Obika is NJ's signing.
All you do is make my point even more ,Oscar takes over a team he doesn`t know or hasn`t chosen ,unyet he makes them better than gus did ,not to forget up to 9 injuries to first team players in the first half of the season,and we are better off now ,than the same time last season ,sounds to me that you are a real Oscar fan you just havn`t figured it out yet !. UTA
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Phantom[/bold] wrote: Hope this doesn't escalate to the extent that Bridcutt leaves (as he surely eventually will) on bad terms with the club. Would still expect him to go before the window closes.[/p][/quote]Nothing to worry about. This is completely normal in pro football. He will remain with us for another 18 months, or until such time that a club comes up with the Board's full valuation and it's a club that the Board are happy to sell to. Sunderland's offer must have been to low. This Board will keep it professional and polite. In addition, Bridcutt by handing in a request, has forfeited any leaving bonuses / golden handshake that he would have been entitled to on departure of he left in any other circumstances - possibly saving the club some money.[/p][/quote]Absolutely ,and here`s a thought ,we don`t let him go now ,we get promoted and Sunderland go down ,will he still want a move ?. All speculation of course ,but very possible ,i cant get over Oscar`s figure`s ,we all know how bad our injuries have been ,but we are better of than last season ,with far less absentees ?! ,but that was for gus, this man has what we need to go up ,,i don`t want to make the same error this time ,my heart and head say this guy is different ,gus was like a kid in the back seat ..are we there yet..are we there yet ! ,i think when we finally arrive it will be with far more finesse` . UTA[/p][/quote]These are all mostly Gus' players though, aren't they? Oscar hasn't actually signed anyone yet. Even Obika is NJ's signing.[/p][/quote]All you do is make my point even more ,Oscar takes over a team he doesn`t know or hasn`t chosen ,unyet he makes them better than gus did ,not to forget up to 9 injuries to first team players in the first half of the season,and we are better off now ,than the same time last season ,sounds to me that you are a real Oscar fan you just havn`t figured it out yet !. UTA tug509

7:39pm Wed 8 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

A lot of comments here about Liam potentially throwing his toys out of the prm should he not get a move.

I don't see it like that at all.. I think he is a level headed professional lad that understands that we will want as big a fee as possible if we are to consider letting him go.
By refusing his transfer request could and should be seen as a big compliment... We want you to stay Liam is the message.. We value what you bring us.

I'm pretty sure that Liam if he stays will return to his pre injury form and help us really press on... He has an opportunity to keep his name in lights and build his reputation but at the same time mitigate risk by potentially sign for a club that may get relegated.
I'm also sure that a gentle mans agreement will be put in place with a figure in mind should we not get promoted.

This for me is the most I have been impressed by our board.. It may just be game playing to bump up the fee but it's good to know that we will no longer be bullied in to cheap sales.

Well done TB & Co

Uta
A lot of comments here about Liam potentially throwing his toys out of the prm should he not get a move. I don't see it like that at all.. I think he is a level headed professional lad that understands that we will want as big a fee as possible if we are to consider letting him go. By refusing his transfer request could and should be seen as a big compliment... We want you to stay Liam is the message.. We value what you bring us. I'm pretty sure that Liam if he stays will return to his pre injury form and help us really press on... He has an opportunity to keep his name in lights and build his reputation but at the same time mitigate risk by potentially sign for a club that may get relegated. I'm also sure that a gentle mans agreement will be put in place with a figure in mind should we not get promoted. This for me is the most I have been impressed by our board.. It may just be game playing to bump up the fee but it's good to know that we will no longer be bullied in to cheap sales. Well done TB & Co Uta SMF20

8:07pm Wed 8 Jan 14

OldGull says...

marksmith198000 wrote:
you've got to remember that if you value a player at £5 million, then their wages should be in accordance.

ie will TB pay Bridcutt over 20k a week? no chance

take the £2.5 million and get a new striker! you don't want him sitting in the reserves and missing out on the money!
Sunderland want Bridcutt because they believe he has enough PL quality to help them survive.
Where could you buy a PL midfielder for £2.5m?

The club should not be held to ransom by Liam or Sunderland.

Offer £4m cash and he can leave.
[quote][p][bold]marksmith198000[/bold] wrote: you've got to remember that if you value a player at £5 million, then their wages should be in accordance. ie will TB pay Bridcutt over 20k a week? no chance take the £2.5 million and get a new striker! you don't want him sitting in the reserves and missing out on the money![/p][/quote]Sunderland want Bridcutt because they believe he has enough PL quality to help them survive. Where could you buy a PL midfielder for £2.5m? The club should not be held to ransom by Liam or Sunderland. Offer £4m cash and he can leave. OldGull

8:24pm Wed 8 Jan 14

OldGull says...

Claude Back wrote:
marksmith198000 wrote:
you've got to remember that if you value a player at £5 million, then their wages should be in accordance.

ie will TB pay Bridcutt over 20k a week? no chance

take the £2.5 million and get a new striker! you don't want him sitting in the reserves and missing out on the money!
A sensible post.
If Albion refuse LB a transfer he will be no use to anyone and eventually go in the summer for a lower figure than £3m. Plus, what sort of performances do you think he will give and what effect on team morale with him whingeing about it?
Sunderland have very limited cash and nobody is going to pay £5m for LB.
If Sunderland are not prepared to pay the going rate for what they believe is a PL quality striker then Liam will have to stay.
He then has 2 choices.
1 Either produce top quality performances to earn a PL place next season (either with the Albion or through an improved bid from a PL club)
or
2 Sulk, play with the DS and see his PL chances disappear.

Simple
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marksmith198000[/bold] wrote: you've got to remember that if you value a player at £5 million, then their wages should be in accordance. ie will TB pay Bridcutt over 20k a week? no chance take the £2.5 million and get a new striker! you don't want him sitting in the reserves and missing out on the money![/p][/quote]A sensible post. If Albion refuse LB a transfer he will be no use to anyone and eventually go in the summer for a lower figure than £3m. Plus, what sort of performances do you think he will give and what effect on team morale with him whingeing about it? Sunderland have very limited cash and nobody is going to pay £5m for LB.[/p][/quote]If Sunderland are not prepared to pay the going rate for what they believe is a PL quality striker then Liam will have to stay. He then has 2 choices. 1 Either produce top quality performances to earn a PL place next season (either with the Albion or through an improved bid from a PL club) or 2 Sulk, play with the DS and see his PL chances disappear. Simple OldGull

8:33pm Wed 8 Jan 14

the taffster says...

whats the point in keeping an unhappy player?if sunderland withdraw their bid.he will be free to leave in the summer anyway for nothing.....who wins then? nobody...
whats the point in keeping an unhappy player?if sunderland withdraw their bid.he will be free to leave in the summer anyway for nothing.....who wins then? nobody... the taffster

8:34pm Wed 8 Jan 14

OldGull says...

the taffster wrote:
whats the point in keeping an unhappy player?if sunderland withdraw their bid.he will be free to leave in the summer anyway for nothing.....who wins then? nobody...
Wrong, he is under contract until summer 2015
[quote][p][bold]the taffster[/bold] wrote: whats the point in keeping an unhappy player?if sunderland withdraw their bid.he will be free to leave in the summer anyway for nothing.....who wins then? nobody...[/p][/quote]Wrong, he is under contract until summer 2015 OldGull

9:07pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Withdean-er says...

All these comments about "an unhappy player" and "have sympathy for Bridcutt". There is no sadness. Bridcutt is sitting pretty probably TAKING HOME net pay of £5,000 per week (imagine that), and knows one way or another in only his mid-20's come August he will almost certainly be in a PL squad and at the the same time tripling his wages. He absolutely does not come across as a Berbatov or Modric type sulky person, issuing deliberately devious snippets about his feelings through his relatives or his agent about "His head just isn't in the right place at the moment".

Handing in a transfer request and the club rejecting it is all part of the game.

The club's in a win-win. Hold out for a very large fee (relative for a defensive midfielder) and have our targets near ready to signup in using the money, or if a PL club do not match TB's valuation he remains our player to help this campaign.
All these comments about "an unhappy player" and "have sympathy for Bridcutt". There is no sadness. Bridcutt is sitting pretty probably TAKING HOME net pay of £5,000 per week (imagine that), and knows one way or another in only his mid-20's come August he will almost certainly be in a PL squad and at the the same time tripling his wages. He absolutely does not come across as a Berbatov or Modric type sulky person, issuing deliberately devious snippets about his feelings through his relatives or his agent about "His head just isn't in the right place at the moment". Handing in a transfer request and the club rejecting it is all part of the game. The club's in a win-win. Hold out for a very large fee (relative for a defensive midfielder) and have our targets near ready to signup in using the money, or if a PL club do not match TB's valuation he remains our player to help this campaign. Withdean-er

10:14pm Wed 8 Jan 14

hannover seagull says...

SMF20 wrote:
A lot of comments here about Liam potentially throwing his toys out of the prm should he not get a move.

I don't see it like that at all.. I think he is a level headed professional lad that understands that we will want as big a fee as possible if we are to consider letting him go.
By refusing his transfer request could and should be seen as a big compliment... We want you to stay Liam is the message.. We value what you bring us.

I'm pretty sure that Liam if he stays will return to his pre injury form and help us really press on... He has an opportunity to keep his name in lights and build his reputation but at the same time mitigate risk by potentially sign for a club that may get relegated.
I'm also sure that a gentle mans agreement will be put in place with a figure in mind should we not get promoted.

This for me is the most I have been impressed by our board.. It may just be game playing to bump up the fee but it's good to know that we will no longer be bullied in to cheap sales.

Well done TB & Co

Uta
Lets hope there isn´t a bad feeling toward LB if he stay´s or goes
At the Blackburn game when he returned after injury ,the stadium got to their
feet(apart from the NS where we were standing already)
True BHA fans will wish him well as he has been an important piece our onwards and upwards plan and deserves to play at the next level albeit with us or wherever
UTA...........
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: A lot of comments here about Liam potentially throwing his toys out of the prm should he not get a move. I don't see it like that at all.. I think he is a level headed professional lad that understands that we will want as big a fee as possible if we are to consider letting him go. By refusing his transfer request could and should be seen as a big compliment... We want you to stay Liam is the message.. We value what you bring us. I'm pretty sure that Liam if he stays will return to his pre injury form and help us really press on... He has an opportunity to keep his name in lights and build his reputation but at the same time mitigate risk by potentially sign for a club that may get relegated. I'm also sure that a gentle mans agreement will be put in place with a figure in mind should we not get promoted. This for me is the most I have been impressed by our board.. It may just be game playing to bump up the fee but it's good to know that we will no longer be bullied in to cheap sales. Well done TB & Co Uta[/p][/quote]Lets hope there isn´t a bad feeling toward LB if he stay´s or goes At the Blackburn game when he returned after injury ,the stadium got to their feet(apart from the NS where we were standing already) True BHA fans will wish him well as he has been an important piece our onwards and upwards plan and deserves to play at the next level albeit with us or wherever UTA........... hannover seagull

11:25pm Wed 8 Jan 14

ballantrrae says...

dave from bexill wrote:
farside wrote:
It will either draw a proper bid with good money up front and less conditions or (if Sunderland aren't interested to pay market value) it will lead to Bridcutt withdrawing his request on a gentleman's agreement that he can go in the summer if we are not promoted.
That seems sensible, but do we actually know, other than speculation, what amount the bid was
The Argus reported that Sunderland bid £2 mill for Bridcutt and £1.75 mill for Buckley. No further bids have been reported. I can't see the Albion accepting anything less than £3 mill plus add ons for Bridcutt.
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]farside[/bold] wrote: It will either draw a proper bid with good money up front and less conditions or (if Sunderland aren't interested to pay market value) it will lead to Bridcutt withdrawing his request on a gentleman's agreement that he can go in the summer if we are not promoted.[/p][/quote]That seems sensible, but do we actually know, other than speculation, what amount the bid was[/p][/quote]The Argus reported that Sunderland bid £2 mill for Bridcutt and £1.75 mill for Buckley. No further bids have been reported. I can't see the Albion accepting anything less than £3 mill plus add ons for Bridcutt. ballantrrae

3:56am Thu 9 Jan 14

WestStander17 says...

Withdean-er wrote:
All these comments about "an unhappy player" and "have sympathy for Bridcutt". There is no sadness. Bridcutt is sitting pretty probably TAKING HOME net pay of £5,000 per week (imagine that), and knows one way or another in only his mid-20's come August he will almost certainly be in a PL squad and at the the same time tripling his wages. He absolutely does not come across as a Berbatov or Modric type sulky person, issuing deliberately devious snippets about his feelings through his relatives or his agent about "His head just isn't in the right place at the moment". Handing in a transfer request and the club rejecting it is all part of the game. The club's in a win-win. Hold out for a very large fee (relative for a defensive midfielder) and have our targets near ready to signup in using the money, or if a PL club do not match TB's valuation he remains our player to help this campaign.
Agreed. Bridcutt has shown no signs of sulking, going on strike or anything of the sort. He has the fairly rare situation of being young, brilliant at what he does and have a Manager he trusts in a position (finances allowing!) to take him into the Premier League. No-one can blame him for wanting to take that opportunity. He has been great for us and thoroughly deserves his chance in the top league where, I believe, playing in that holding role, he will flourish.

The transfer fee won't matter to him at all but I'm sure he totally understands Brighton must get as much as they can for him and will appreciate that we have helped him to get to this position too, even though it was Gus that signed him.

He seems a very professional, level-headed lad so I'd have no doubt in him giving his all for us until any deal goes through and I'd still be happy to sing "There's only one Liam Bridcutt" given the opportunity. I doubt that will happen as Clubs/Agents tend to make players disappear at these sorts of times to avoid injuries.

Others have mentioned it on here too that the most important thing for us to do right now is to get Rohan Ince onto a long term contract. He has emerged as a worthy replacement to Bridcutt so the last thing we need is to lose him too, especially cheaply!
[quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: All these comments about "an unhappy player" and "have sympathy for Bridcutt". There is no sadness. Bridcutt is sitting pretty probably TAKING HOME net pay of £5,000 per week (imagine that), and knows one way or another in only his mid-20's come August he will almost certainly be in a PL squad and at the the same time tripling his wages. He absolutely does not come across as a Berbatov or Modric type sulky person, issuing deliberately devious snippets about his feelings through his relatives or his agent about "His head just isn't in the right place at the moment". Handing in a transfer request and the club rejecting it is all part of the game. The club's in a win-win. Hold out for a very large fee (relative for a defensive midfielder) and have our targets near ready to signup in using the money, or if a PL club do not match TB's valuation he remains our player to help this campaign.[/p][/quote]Agreed. Bridcutt has shown no signs of sulking, going on strike or anything of the sort. He has the fairly rare situation of being young, brilliant at what he does and have a Manager he trusts in a position (finances allowing!) to take him into the Premier League. No-one can blame him for wanting to take that opportunity. He has been great for us and thoroughly deserves his chance in the top league where, I believe, playing in that holding role, he will flourish. The transfer fee won't matter to him at all but I'm sure he totally understands Brighton must get as much as they can for him and will appreciate that we have helped him to get to this position too, even though it was Gus that signed him. He seems a very professional, level-headed lad so I'd have no doubt in him giving his all for us until any deal goes through and I'd still be happy to sing "There's only one Liam Bridcutt" given the opportunity. I doubt that will happen as Clubs/Agents tend to make players disappear at these sorts of times to avoid injuries. Others have mentioned it on here too that the most important thing for us to do right now is to get Rohan Ince onto a long term contract. He has emerged as a worthy replacement to Bridcutt so the last thing we need is to lose him too, especially cheaply! WestStander17

7:16am Thu 9 Jan 14

brighton bluenose says...

Nathan Jones told my pal last week that Bridcutt is going nowhere except for sillly money and that TB will not do business with Poyet!
Listen - despite all his bulls*** Gus turned us over big-time in that last play-off game and Bloom aint gonna forget that in a hurry! After all thats happened our chairman will not help Poyet survive in the Premiership!!
Nathan Jones told my pal last week that Bridcutt is going nowhere except for sillly money and that TB will not do business with Poyet! Listen - despite all his bulls*** Gus turned us over big-time in that last play-off game and Bloom aint gonna forget that in a hurry! After all thats happened our chairman will not help Poyet survive in the Premiership!! brighton bluenose

8:03am Thu 9 Jan 14

Withdean-er says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
Nathan Jones told my pal last week that Bridcutt is going nowhere except for sillly money and that TB will not do business with Poyet!
Listen - despite all his bulls*** Gus turned us over big-time in that last play-off game and Bloom aint gonna forget that in a hurry! After all thats happened our chairman will not help Poyet survive in the Premiership!!
We are great hands with TB overseeing all major decisions, and putting the club in a sound position financially. No longer selling players too cheaply (as in the latter Goldstone years), or allowing key players contracts to expire (as Poyet did in his petty cause celebre against free scoring Murray).
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: Nathan Jones told my pal last week that Bridcutt is going nowhere except for sillly money and that TB will not do business with Poyet! Listen - despite all his bulls*** Gus turned us over big-time in that last play-off game and Bloom aint gonna forget that in a hurry! After all thats happened our chairman will not help Poyet survive in the Premiership!![/p][/quote]We are great hands with TB overseeing all major decisions, and putting the club in a sound position financially. No longer selling players too cheaply (as in the latter Goldstone years), or allowing key players contracts to expire (as Poyet did in his petty cause celebre against free scoring Murray). Withdean-er

8:46am Thu 9 Jan 14

dave from bexill says...

ballantrrae wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
farside wrote:
It will either draw a proper bid with good money up front and less conditions or (if Sunderland aren't interested to pay market value) it will lead to Bridcutt withdrawing his request on a gentleman's agreement that he can go in the summer if we are not promoted.
That seems sensible, but do we actually know, other than speculation, what amount the bid was
The Argus reported that Sunderland bid £2 mill for Bridcutt and £1.75 mill for Buckley. No further bids have been reported. I can't see the Albion accepting anything less than £3 mill plus add ons for Bridcutt.
Cheers ballantrrae
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]farside[/bold] wrote: It will either draw a proper bid with good money up front and less conditions or (if Sunderland aren't interested to pay market value) it will lead to Bridcutt withdrawing his request on a gentleman's agreement that he can go in the summer if we are not promoted.[/p][/quote]That seems sensible, but do we actually know, other than speculation, what amount the bid was[/p][/quote]The Argus reported that Sunderland bid £2 mill for Bridcutt and £1.75 mill for Buckley. No further bids have been reported. I can't see the Albion accepting anything less than £3 mill plus add ons for Bridcutt.[/p][/quote]Cheers ballantrrae dave from bexill

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