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Transfer window watch: Barnes on course for Burnley switch

The Argus: Ashley Barnes is in the process of joining Burnley Ashley Barnes is in the process of joining Burnley

Albion striker Ashley Barnes is in the process of signing for Championship rivals Burnley, the Lancastrian club's manager Sean Dyche has confirmed.

Reports emerged late last night that Burnley have agreed a fee with Albion for Barnes after putting in a bid of around £750,000 at the start of the January transfer window.

Barnes is believed to have headed north to discuss personal terms.

Dyche said this morning: "We're searching through them, pushing as hard as we can to get a deal done, and possibly one or two more.

"Ashley Barnes is in process, along with three or four things, but it takes the details to be decided to make it happen.

"We're not there yet. We've seen before these things don't always get done, we're aware of other options and waiting to gather clarity."

Burnley want Barnes as back-up and competition for the prolific Danny Ings and former Seagull Sam Vokes, who has just signed a new contract.

The former Plymouth forward is out of contract at the end of the season and is yet to agree a new deal offered to him in the summer.

Albion are set to cash in on him now, rather than running the risk of losing him for nothing in the summer.

The Seagulls signed long-time loan striker target Jon Obika from Spurs for 93 days yesterday but will need another striker if Barnes goes.

Burnley are currently second in the table, five places and 11 points above Albion.

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8:53am Thu 9 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

As much as I've grown to like Ash as a player, I think this is the right thing to do.

He obviously isn't committed to signing the new offer he has been presented with and tbh, if the rumours regarding the weekly offering are correct, who can blame him.... It's Murray all over again.

Be sad to see him go but 750k received plus wages is a far larger amount to have than 0 in the summer.

If this happens I wish Ash well.. Seems a good lad

Uta
As much as I've grown to like Ash as a player, I think this is the right thing to do. He obviously isn't committed to signing the new offer he has been presented with and tbh, if the rumours regarding the weekly offering are correct, who can blame him.... It's Murray all over again. Be sad to see him go but 750k received plus wages is a far larger amount to have than 0 in the summer. If this happens I wish Ash well.. Seems a good lad Uta SMF20
  • Score: 23

9:00am Thu 9 Jan 14

JPsseagulls says...

I am very disappointed about this. I agree that there is a possibility that he may walk for free in the summer, but I would personally ether keep him and take that risk as he is a proven goal scorer in the championship and as soon as he puts away the open goals from 5 yards (Huddersfield, Reading just to name two) he could easily score 15/20 on a season. I would personably rather keep Barnes and not get Obika, but I guess maybe that signing was the final nail in the coffin for Ash. I just hope that we now sign Conway. Wages can't possibly be an issue when this deal goes through. Oh well, onwards as upwards...UTA
I am very disappointed about this. I agree that there is a possibility that he may walk for free in the summer, but I would personally ether keep him and take that risk as he is a proven goal scorer in the championship and as soon as he puts away the open goals from 5 yards (Huddersfield, Reading just to name two) he could easily score 15/20 on a season. I would personably rather keep Barnes and not get Obika, but I guess maybe that signing was the final nail in the coffin for Ash. I just hope that we now sign Conway. Wages can't possibly be an issue when this deal goes through. Oh well, onwards as upwards...UTA JPsseagulls
  • Score: -3

9:06am Thu 9 Jan 14

Alfie T says...

Another striker, wonder if he will be coming from abroad, I feel it in my water! :-)
Another striker, wonder if he will be coming from abroad, I feel it in my water! :-) Alfie T
  • Score: 9

9:15am Thu 9 Jan 14

fratsomrover says...

Great news. This should boost our fire power no end. Goodbye Ash welcome Jon. Now we have a real striker to play alongside Leo just watch us go.
The difference between Barnes and Obika summed up in one word
" LETHAL ". That's exactly what has been missing and hopefully exactly what we will now get. Roll on Saturday.
What odds that Burnley drop out of the top 6 now ??
Great news. This should boost our fire power no end. Goodbye Ash welcome Jon. Now we have a real striker to play alongside Leo just watch us go. The difference between Barnes and Obika summed up in one word " LETHAL ". That's exactly what has been missing and hopefully exactly what we will now get. Roll on Saturday. What odds that Burnley drop out of the top 6 now ?? fratsomrover
  • Score: 5

9:16am Thu 9 Jan 14

mikeygit says...

Oh Well this should be no surprise--although disappointing. As we have said about Bridcutt, no point really in hanging on to players who are not 100% committed. Good job we got the lad from Spurs, but now we need ANOTHER striker. Maybe the most interesting January for us for some time.
Oh Well this should be no surprise--although disappointing. As we have said about Bridcutt, no point really in hanging on to players who are not 100% committed. Good job we got the lad from Spurs, but now we need ANOTHER striker. Maybe the most interesting January for us for some time. mikeygit
  • Score: 1

9:19am Thu 9 Jan 14

DuncanThickett says...

I am sad to see Ash go, I was a fan and think he brought something positive up front for us. But seeing as he would probably go for nowt in the Summer, i guess it makes sense, especially with Obika coming in. Maybe other irons are in the fire that we don't know about - have to trust the powers that be.

Good luck Ash.
I am sad to see Ash go, I was a fan and think he brought something positive up front for us. But seeing as he would probably go for nowt in the Summer, i guess it makes sense, especially with Obika coming in. Maybe other irons are in the fire that we don't know about - have to trust the powers that be. Good luck Ash. DuncanThickett
  • Score: 7

9:24am Thu 9 Jan 14

Aye Aye says...

I can't help but feel this is a curious move. Potentially, with the current form of the two A-list strikers at Burnley and, at £750K, he's expensive cover. I'm genuinely sorry to see him go, if his departure proves to be the outcome of all this, as I have warmed to him and his attitude but then I also see it as an opportunity to strengthen. It remains to be seen whether Obika has anything to offer but he seems to be well regarded by many and with Ulloa back in contention, we have a a little less to worry about up front.
I can't help but feel this is a curious move. Potentially, with the current form of the two A-list strikers at Burnley and, at £750K, he's expensive cover. I'm genuinely sorry to see him go, if his departure proves to be the outcome of all this, as I have warmed to him and his attitude but then I also see it as an opportunity to strengthen. It remains to be seen whether Obika has anything to offer but he seems to be well regarded by many and with Ulloa back in contention, we have a a little less to worry about up front. Aye Aye
  • Score: 3

9:24am Thu 9 Jan 14

lonegull says...

Personally I think this is a great shame. Barnes has done well for us and continues to improve.
I'm not ordinarily one to criticise the club as on balance things have never been better however it's uprofessional to let any player who has a reasonable market value enter the last year or even 18 onths of a contract. Once that happens the clubs hand is weakened and it is invariably in the players financial interest to move on. We're not the first club to make the mistake and won't be the last but we need to make sure it doesn't become a habit as we do seem to leave it late TK the next worrying example.
Personally I think this is a great shame. Barnes has done well for us and continues to improve. I'm not ordinarily one to criticise the club as on balance things have never been better however it's uprofessional to let any player who has a reasonable market value enter the last year or even 18 onths of a contract. Once that happens the clubs hand is weakened and it is invariably in the players financial interest to move on. We're not the first club to make the mistake and won't be the last but we need to make sure it doesn't become a habit as we do seem to leave it late TK the next worrying example. lonegull
  • Score: 3

9:25am Thu 9 Jan 14

BobbyLaverick says...

Ash's all round contribution to a game will be difficult to replace.
Considering the pummelling he often received on here from some of his fiercest critics, it has been amazing that the player has withstood such ferocity, and this can only be a testament to his character.
I really wish him well at Turf Moor, where they have a club who historically and consistently punch above their weight.
Yes, he will still exasperate a section of the fans with his near misses, but no one will question his work rate, his committment, or his desire to win for the team.
Good Luck Barnesy, and thank you for your considerable contribution to our club's phenominal rise.
Ash's all round contribution to a game will be difficult to replace. Considering the pummelling he often received on here from some of his fiercest critics, it has been amazing that the player has withstood such ferocity, and this can only be a testament to his character. I really wish him well at Turf Moor, where they have a club who historically and consistently punch above their weight. Yes, he will still exasperate a section of the fans with his near misses, but no one will question his work rate, his committment, or his desire to win for the team. Good Luck Barnesy, and thank you for your considerable contribution to our club's phenominal rise. BobbyLaverick
  • Score: 11

9:26am Thu 9 Jan 14

fratsomrover says...

I wont jump the gun, but in the last 15 minutes Burnley have made an offer in excess of £1.25m for striker Nahki Wells. I'm not sure if they have he clout to buy both Barnes and Wells unless they have received a large offer for Danny Ings, so a Barnes deal might be put on ice. That news has dampened my spirits.
I wont jump the gun, but in the last 15 minutes Burnley have made an offer in excess of £1.25m for striker Nahki Wells. I'm not sure if they have he clout to buy both Barnes and Wells unless they have received a large offer for Danny Ings, so a Barnes deal might be put on ice. That news has dampened my spirits. fratsomrover
  • Score: -2

9:32am Thu 9 Jan 14

mikeygit says...

fratsomrover--and the plot thickens---also, why the thumbs down for some good comments from posters??
fratsomrover--and the plot thickens---also, why the thumbs down for some good comments from posters?? mikeygit
  • Score: 1

9:32am Thu 9 Jan 14

Albion23 says...

Lets get this right, firstly Digger did give us 100%. However he does suffer from barn dooritis ( can't hit one from 10 yards). Yes cash in now get cash , we need to get another strikrr & maybe Conway is still on the radar. I would like to see him sign. Good luck Digger (don't find youre scoring boots now).
Lets get this right, firstly Digger did give us 100%. However he does suffer from barn dooritis ( can't hit one from 10 yards). Yes cash in now get cash , we need to get another strikrr & maybe Conway is still on the radar. I would like to see him sign. Good luck Digger (don't find youre scoring boots now). Albion23
  • Score: 4

9:41am Thu 9 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

Albion23 wrote:
Lets get this right, firstly Digger did give us 100%. However he does suffer from barn dooritis ( can't hit one from 10 yards). Yes cash in now get cash , we need to get another strikrr & maybe Conway is still on the radar. I would like to see him sign. Good luck Digger (don't find youre scoring boots now).
Agreed... I'd very much like to see Conway here as a permanent fixture.

If Barnes fee is enough to tempt Cardiff to sell and Barnes + Barkers combined salary enough to tempt Craig himself then I think it will have been good business all round.

Uta
[quote][p][bold]Albion23[/bold] wrote: Lets get this right, firstly Digger did give us 100%. However he does suffer from barn dooritis ( can't hit one from 10 yards). Yes cash in now get cash , we need to get another strikrr & maybe Conway is still on the radar. I would like to see him sign. Good luck Digger (don't find youre scoring boots now).[/p][/quote]Agreed... I'd very much like to see Conway here as a permanent fixture. If Barnes fee is enough to tempt Cardiff to sell and Barnes + Barkers combined salary enough to tempt Craig himself then I think it will have been good business all round. Uta SMF20
  • Score: 3

9:43am Thu 9 Jan 14

mikeygit says...

frats---where did you pick up the info on Burnley offering on Wells?
frats---where did you pick up the info on Burnley offering on Wells? mikeygit
  • Score: 0

9:45am Thu 9 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

Do we think that there will be something in place to stop Barnes playing against us in a couple of weeks time?
Do we think that there will be something in place to stop Barnes playing against us in a couple of weeks time? SMF20
  • Score: 0

9:47am Thu 9 Jan 14

Guernsey gull says...

Well I am sad that Ash looks like he is on the way,yes he misses some golden chances, but look how hard he has worked whilst Leo has been out.Always a worry to the oppo defence, and sets up goals for others with his constant harrying of defenders.
Has also chipped in with his own goals.
Playing a lone role up front has been tough, so thanks Ash ,and good luck for the future, just wish it was with us.
Well I am sad that Ash looks like he is on the way,yes he misses some golden chances, but look how hard he has worked whilst Leo has been out.Always a worry to the oppo defence, and sets up goals for others with his constant harrying of defenders. Has also chipped in with his own goals. Playing a lone role up front has been tough, so thanks Ash ,and good luck for the future, just wish it was with us. Guernsey gull
  • Score: 11

9:50am Thu 9 Jan 14

Nathan L says...

well this is one transfer i really didn't want to see happen. Barnes has a lot of potential and offers more in a game than a one dimensional striker, just look at how he has livened up games when he has been on the pitch in recent weeks. The sale of Bridcutt i can understand as we have displayed good form without him, we have logical cover in that position, and we will be selling for a good fee to a premiership club, but to sell to a rival in your division when you are light in that position is a strange statement of intent. But the club has never let us down so far, hopefully they have a plan in the works and the signing of Obika might suggest he is cover till we sign a new striker.
well this is one transfer i really didn't want to see happen. Barnes has a lot of potential and offers more in a game than a one dimensional striker, just look at how he has livened up games when he has been on the pitch in recent weeks. The sale of Bridcutt i can understand as we have displayed good form without him, we have logical cover in that position, and we will be selling for a good fee to a premiership club, but to sell to a rival in your division when you are light in that position is a strange statement of intent. But the club has never let us down so far, hopefully they have a plan in the works and the signing of Obika might suggest he is cover till we sign a new striker. Nathan L
  • Score: 6

9:51am Thu 9 Jan 14

fairweathersupporter says...

Given the striking situation and our advertised reticence at signing people in the January transfer window (Ulloa???), this is a little bit concerning. Yes the cash in now logic is of course, well logical. But with the relatively untried Obika only signed on a three month loan ( can this be extended? If I missed that somewhere I apologise) and CMS not necessarily a ready back up any time soon (Match fitness as much as anything else), then we really will be in the mucky stuff at the end of March (or before), if Big Len gets injured or banned. I have defended our much maligned 'Austrian international' and will be sorry to see him go. I would only hope that we have things in the pipeline beyond what is currently apparent.
The Bridcutt situation is a little more understandable and whilst arguably our best player, there are sufficient options in the midfield to still support a play off charge with or without him. I would presume that past any overt promotion aspirations, the club would not want to be anything else than in a position to challenge for the play offs come season ticket renewal time in April. The season so far has further exposed our inability to finish games off, with the emphasis on 'finish'. With Obika effectively a replacement for the anonymous Lita and nothing in the reserve ranks (sorry, development squad) worthy of note, then it is a gamble to rely on a situation that could backfire at an important part of the season. It also leaves us overly reliant on Big Len, albeit I concede that having two 'star' strikers for one birth is a luxury we may not be able to afford. I am NOT being negative but stating some opinions that will hopefully be redundant come that end of the month. If Obika is a suitable back up for the holding striker and CMS is near a comeback, then maybe we might get away with it. But a less than permanent solution at this time of the season is somewhat uncomfortable...
Given the striking situation and our advertised reticence at signing people in the January transfer window (Ulloa???), this is a little bit concerning. Yes the cash in now logic is of course, well logical. But with the relatively untried Obika only signed on a three month loan ( can this be extended? If I missed that somewhere I apologise) and CMS not necessarily a ready back up any time soon (Match fitness as much as anything else), then we really will be in the mucky stuff at the end of March (or before), if Big Len gets injured or banned. I have defended our much maligned 'Austrian international' and will be sorry to see him go. I would only hope that we have things in the pipeline beyond what is currently apparent. The Bridcutt situation is a little more understandable and whilst arguably our best player, there are sufficient options in the midfield to still support a play off charge with or without him. I would presume that past any overt promotion aspirations, the club would not want to be anything else than in a position to challenge for the play offs come season ticket renewal time in April. The season so far has further exposed our inability to finish games off, with the emphasis on 'finish'. With Obika effectively a replacement for the anonymous Lita and nothing in the reserve ranks (sorry, development squad) worthy of note, then it is a gamble to rely on a situation that could backfire at an important part of the season. It also leaves us overly reliant on Big Len, albeit I concede that having two 'star' strikers for one birth is a luxury we may not be able to afford. I am NOT being negative but stating some opinions that will hopefully be redundant come that end of the month. If Obika is a suitable back up for the holding striker and CMS is near a comeback, then maybe we might get away with it. But a less than permanent solution at this time of the season is somewhat uncomfortable... fairweathersupporter
  • Score: 4

9:52am Thu 9 Jan 14

kevbha says...

Good luck to the lad just a shame we can't keep gold of him till end of season and then let him make up his mind as there is a long way to go to end of season and a lot can change
Good luck to the lad just a shame we can't keep gold of him till end of season and then let him make up his mind as there is a long way to go to end of season and a lot can change kevbha
  • Score: 3

9:55am Thu 9 Jan 14

graham w says...

Allthough im not the greatest fan of Ashley I wish him well , another good piece of business by tony....onwards and upwards..UTA.....SEA
GULLLS....
Allthough im not the greatest fan of Ashley I wish him well , another good piece of business by tony....onwards and upwards..UTA.....SEA GULLLS.... graham w
  • Score: 3

9:58am Thu 9 Jan 14

Baldseagull says...

Albion23 wrote:
Lets get this right, firstly Digger did give us 100%. However he does suffer from barn dooritis ( can't hit one from 10 yards). Yes cash in now get cash , we need to get another strikrr & maybe Conway is still on the radar. I would like to see him sign. Good luck Digger (don't find youre scoring boots now).
Good move for Barnes, Dyche is a good manager and I can see Barnes doing well in a side that works hard in every position.
Good luck to him, but I think we will miss him, I can't see who will step up and do the hard graft that he put in for us.
[quote][p][bold]Albion23[/bold] wrote: Lets get this right, firstly Digger did give us 100%. However he does suffer from barn dooritis ( can't hit one from 10 yards). Yes cash in now get cash , we need to get another strikrr & maybe Conway is still on the radar. I would like to see him sign. Good luck Digger (don't find youre scoring boots now).[/p][/quote]Good move for Barnes, Dyche is a good manager and I can see Barnes doing well in a side that works hard in every position. Good luck to him, but I think we will miss him, I can't see who will step up and do the hard graft that he put in for us. Baldseagull
  • Score: 3

10:02am Thu 9 Jan 14

pablobrowno says...

Nobody else has seen the article about us having Joe Mason lined up as a replacement for Barnes then? Strange it's only been mentioned in one place as far as I know....

http://www.sportsdir
ectnews.com/football
-league/37966-burnle
y-dyche-close-to-sig
ning-brighton-strike
r.php#.Us5y-bIgGSM

I truly don't believe we'd be letting Barnes go without a decent replacement.
Nobody else has seen the article about us having Joe Mason lined up as a replacement for Barnes then? Strange it's only been mentioned in one place as far as I know.... http://www.sportsdir ectnews.com/football -league/37966-burnle y-dyche-close-to-sig ning-brighton-strike r.php#.Us5y-bIgGSM I truly don't believe we'd be letting Barnes go without a decent replacement. pablobrowno
  • Score: 7

10:06am Thu 9 Jan 14

farside says...

I am a massive Ashley Barnes fan but he has clearly refused to sign a new deal so rightly the club will sell. Massively disappointing though and highly disruptive for our season.

Rumour of a double deal on the horizon with Conway and Joe Mason coming from Cardiff.

Tough game Saturday but three points vital to keep us in touch with a month of away games ahead but most of all to give the fans some much needed cheer.
I am a massive Ashley Barnes fan but he has clearly refused to sign a new deal so rightly the club will sell. Massively disappointing though and highly disruptive for our season. Rumour of a double deal on the horizon with Conway and Joe Mason coming from Cardiff. Tough game Saturday but three points vital to keep us in touch with a month of away games ahead but most of all to give the fans some much needed cheer. farside
  • Score: 4

10:07am Thu 9 Jan 14

Aye Aye says...

pablobrowno wrote:
Nobody else has seen the article about us having Joe Mason lined up as a replacement for Barnes then? Strange it's only been mentioned in one place as far as I know....

http://www.sportsdir

ectnews.com/football

-league/37966-burnle

y-dyche-close-to-sig

ning-brighton-strike

r.php#.Us5y-bIgGSM

I truly don't believe we'd be letting Barnes go without a decent replacement.
I too saw this yesterday PB but on a different site. I also see that we're in for Cardiff's Rudy Gestede (striker) on loan.
[quote][p][bold]pablobrowno[/bold] wrote: Nobody else has seen the article about us having Joe Mason lined up as a replacement for Barnes then? Strange it's only been mentioned in one place as far as I know.... http://www.sportsdir ectnews.com/football -league/37966-burnle y-dyche-close-to-sig ning-brighton-strike r.php#.Us5y-bIgGSM I truly don't believe we'd be letting Barnes go without a decent replacement.[/p][/quote]I too saw this yesterday PB but on a different site. I also see that we're in for Cardiff's Rudy Gestede (striker) on loan. Aye Aye
  • Score: 2

10:11am Thu 9 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

I'm sad to see him go, but better now for £3/4m than the end of the season for nothing. I'm not sure how many minutes he's going to get unless Ings or Vokes get injured, but I guess the wages are high enough to soften that blow.

Good luck to him.
I'm sad to see him go, but better now for £3/4m than the end of the season for nothing. I'm not sure how many minutes he's going to get unless Ings or Vokes get injured, but I guess the wages are high enough to soften that blow. Good luck to him. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

10:12am Thu 9 Jan 14

Withdean-er says...

If true, and a better striker doesn't join us in January, this is a massive blunder by the Albion. That would mid table mediocrity for another season. Barnes scores goals (a rarity for an Albion striker), stays fit unlike the others and is a fighter in games where we are getting bullied. I was one of the quiet majority who liked him.

And before anyone gets excited about CMS, his goals per game record in the Championship for both BHA and Posh is appalling, especially for someone on big wages and who cost a £3.25m transfer fee.

And ask yourself the question, why are promotion chasing Burnley and Dyche interested in Barnes? They can see all the positives he brings to the team and squad and is well worth decent pay.
If true, and a better striker doesn't join us in January, this is a massive blunder by the Albion. That would mid table mediocrity for another season. Barnes scores goals (a rarity for an Albion striker), stays fit unlike the others and is a fighter in games where we are getting bullied. I was one of the quiet majority who liked him. And before anyone gets excited about CMS, his goals per game record in the Championship for both BHA and Posh is appalling, especially for someone on big wages and who cost a £3.25m transfer fee. And ask yourself the question, why are promotion chasing Burnley and Dyche interested in Barnes? They can see all the positives he brings to the team and squad and is well worth decent pay. Withdean-er
  • Score: 0

10:27am Thu 9 Jan 14

brightonup says...

Disappointing - but perhaps inevitable. I had hoped that Barnes would see this season through with us. He is a versatile player and I think he will be an asset to Burnley.
I he does go, I hope the replacement has all his competitive attributes and perhaps a tad more skill....
Disappointing - but perhaps inevitable. I had hoped that Barnes would see this season through with us. He is a versatile player and I think he will be an asset to Burnley. I he does go, I hope the replacement has all his competitive attributes and perhaps a tad more skill.... brightonup
  • Score: 4

10:28am Thu 9 Jan 14

Nathan L says...

Aye Aye wrote:
pablobrowno wrote:
Nobody else has seen the article about us having Joe Mason lined up as a replacement for Barnes then? Strange it's only been mentioned in one place as far as I know....

http://www.sportsdir


ectnews.com/football


-league/37966-burnle


y-dyche-close-to-sig


ning-brighton-strike


r.php#.Us5y-bIgGSM

I truly don't believe we'd be letting Barnes go without a decent replacement.
I too saw this yesterday PB but on a different site. I also see that we're in for Cardiff's Rudy Gestede (striker) on loan.
Gestede has already signed permanently for Blackburn Rovers. Joe Mason however would be a terrific signing and someone i have personally always hoped we would make an approach for.
[quote][p][bold]Aye Aye[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pablobrowno[/bold] wrote: Nobody else has seen the article about us having Joe Mason lined up as a replacement for Barnes then? Strange it's only been mentioned in one place as far as I know.... http://www.sportsdir ectnews.com/football -league/37966-burnle y-dyche-close-to-sig ning-brighton-strike r.php#.Us5y-bIgGSM I truly don't believe we'd be letting Barnes go without a decent replacement.[/p][/quote]I too saw this yesterday PB but on a different site. I also see that we're in for Cardiff's Rudy Gestede (striker) on loan.[/p][/quote]Gestede has already signed permanently for Blackburn Rovers. Joe Mason however would be a terrific signing and someone i have personally always hoped we would make an approach for. Nathan L
  • Score: 2

10:30am Thu 9 Jan 14

realist2012 says...

Love the fact that everyone is already moaning about what poor shape we are in and are talking like Ash is the best player we have. I am pretty sure that the suits wouldn't sanction the Barnes move if they didn't have something lined up - why everyone is so negative is beyond me
Love the fact that everyone is already moaning about what poor shape we are in and are talking like Ash is the best player we have. I am pretty sure that the suits wouldn't sanction the Barnes move if they didn't have something lined up - why everyone is so negative is beyond me realist2012
  • Score: 7

10:36am Thu 9 Jan 14

farside says...

brightonup wrote:
Disappointing - but perhaps inevitable. I had hoped that Barnes would see this season through with us. He is a versatile player and I think he will be an asset to Burnley.
I he does go, I hope the replacement has all his competitive attributes and perhaps a tad more skill....
Suspect Barnes is/was happy to see out the season with us then "do a Murray" in the summer. ....which is why the club are willing to sell him.
If he is happy to be on the bench (initially) at Burnley for not a lot more money that's his choice. He has to back himself to replace Ings if he is sold or oust Vokes for a starting place. Either way they are a better bet for rhe EPL than us.
If Barnes thinks that is too risky his option is to come back and sign the deal already on the table because if he doesnt we have no choice but to find another buyer.
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: Disappointing - but perhaps inevitable. I had hoped that Barnes would see this season through with us. He is a versatile player and I think he will be an asset to Burnley. I he does go, I hope the replacement has all his competitive attributes and perhaps a tad more skill....[/p][/quote]Suspect Barnes is/was happy to see out the season with us then "do a Murray" in the summer. ....which is why the club are willing to sell him. If he is happy to be on the bench (initially) at Burnley for not a lot more money that's his choice. He has to back himself to replace Ings if he is sold or oust Vokes for a starting place. Either way they are a better bet for rhe EPL than us. If Barnes thinks that is too risky his option is to come back and sign the deal already on the table because if he doesnt we have no choice but to find another buyer. farside
  • Score: 4

10:36am Thu 9 Jan 14

Aye Aye says...

realist2012 wrote:
Love the fact that everyone is already moaning about what poor shape we are in and are talking like Ash is the best player we have. I am pretty sure that the suits wouldn't sanction the Barnes move if they didn't have something lined up - why everyone is so negative is beyond me
Totally with you on this one r2012.
[quote][p][bold]realist2012[/bold] wrote: Love the fact that everyone is already moaning about what poor shape we are in and are talking like Ash is the best player we have. I am pretty sure that the suits wouldn't sanction the Barnes move if they didn't have something lined up - why everyone is so negative is beyond me[/p][/quote]Totally with you on this one r2012. Aye Aye
  • Score: 7

10:37am Thu 9 Jan 14

Hector66 says...

burnley are wasting their money on barnes. we should be biting their hand off. that's not personal. he's a thorough pro and tries his guts out, as we all know, i just think he is not the type of player to take us any farther forward than we already are.
burnley are wasting their money on barnes. we should be biting their hand off. that's not personal. he's a thorough pro and tries his guts out, as we all know, i just think he is not the type of player to take us any farther forward than we already are. Hector66
  • Score: 3

10:37am Thu 9 Jan 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Ash brings a lot to the team. 100% effort, goals and defensive qualities. Even his missed goals provide good entertainment value. There is no doubt we should have kept him (I am a fan), but his reluctance to re sign made it impossible to let things slide until the summer. It is sad but this is good business for the Albion although a tad disruptive.
He is going to a club with a good manager and I've no doubt Ash will benefit from this. But he would have continued to prosper under Oscar anyway.
He is doing what he feels is right for his career and family.
Good luck Ash and thanks for the memories.UTA
Ash brings a lot to the team. 100% effort, goals and defensive qualities. Even his missed goals provide good entertainment value. There is no doubt we should have kept him (I am a fan), but his reluctance to re sign made it impossible to let things slide until the summer. It is sad but this is good business for the Albion although a tad disruptive. He is going to a club with a good manager and I've no doubt Ash will benefit from this. But he would have continued to prosper under Oscar anyway. He is doing what he feels is right for his career and family. Good luck Ash and thanks for the memories.UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 6

10:39am Thu 9 Jan 14

college says...

Withdean-er wrote:
If true, and a better striker doesn't join us in January, this is a massive blunder by the Albion. That would mid table mediocrity for another season. Barnes scores goals (a rarity for an Albion striker), stays fit unlike the others and is a fighter in games where we are getting bullied. I was one of the quiet majority who liked him.

And before anyone gets excited about CMS, his goals per game record in the Championship for both BHA and Posh is appalling, especially for someone on big wages and who cost a £3.25m transfer fee.

And ask yourself the question, why are promotion chasing Burnley and Dyche interested in Barnes? They can see all the positives he brings to the team and squad and is well worth decent pay.
Spot on, despite his knockers on here he's been one of the most consistent and improved players over the last few seasons. He's that rarity these days a 100% committed player who gives it all for the team every week, his only problem has been consistency in front of goal, other than that he's been a first class pro and that's what Dyche is buying.
[quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: If true, and a better striker doesn't join us in January, this is a massive blunder by the Albion. That would mid table mediocrity for another season. Barnes scores goals (a rarity for an Albion striker), stays fit unlike the others and is a fighter in games where we are getting bullied. I was one of the quiet majority who liked him. And before anyone gets excited about CMS, his goals per game record in the Championship for both BHA and Posh is appalling, especially for someone on big wages and who cost a £3.25m transfer fee. And ask yourself the question, why are promotion chasing Burnley and Dyche interested in Barnes? They can see all the positives he brings to the team and squad and is well worth decent pay.[/p][/quote]Spot on, despite his knockers on here he's been one of the most consistent and improved players over the last few seasons. He's that rarity these days a 100% committed player who gives it all for the team every week, his only problem has been consistency in front of goal, other than that he's been a first class pro and that's what Dyche is buying. college
  • Score: 2

10:41am Thu 9 Jan 14

realist2012 says...

What is the alternative? Keep him until the end of the season and let him go on a free? All of you saying that we are wrong to seel him would soon moan in June when he leaves for nothing. He was offered a new deal in August and has not signed it, his intentions are clear, great move by the club
What is the alternative? Keep him until the end of the season and let him go on a free? All of you saying that we are wrong to seel him would soon moan in June when he leaves for nothing. He was offered a new deal in August and has not signed it, his intentions are clear, great move by the club realist2012
  • Score: 5

10:47am Thu 9 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Sounds like (Dirty) Leeds are in for Ash too. BIDDING WAR!
Sounds like (Dirty) Leeds are in for Ash too. BIDDING WAR! Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

10:57am Thu 9 Jan 14

Aye Aye says...

AB market value, apparently, £1.1M!!

http://www.transferm
arkt.co.uk/en/ashley
-barnes/leistungsdat
en-vereindetail/spie
ler_63200.html
AB market value, apparently, £1.1M!! http://www.transferm arkt.co.uk/en/ashley -barnes/leistungsdat en-vereindetail/spie ler_63200.html Aye Aye
  • Score: 0

10:58am Thu 9 Jan 14

saraman says...

fratsomrover wrote:
Great news. This should boost our fire power no end. Goodbye Ash welcome Jon. Now we have a real striker to play alongside Leo just watch us go. The difference between Barnes and Obika summed up in one word " LETHAL ". That's exactly what has been missing and hopefully exactly what we will now get. Roll on Saturday. What odds that Burnley drop out of the top 6 now ??
Spot on Fratsomrover. I've been thinking for a while that Burnley would fall away. If Barnes goes there it's odds on.
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: Great news. This should boost our fire power no end. Goodbye Ash welcome Jon. Now we have a real striker to play alongside Leo just watch us go. The difference between Barnes and Obika summed up in one word " LETHAL ". That's exactly what has been missing and hopefully exactly what we will now get. Roll on Saturday. What odds that Burnley drop out of the top 6 now ??[/p][/quote]Spot on Fratsomrover. I've been thinking for a while that Burnley would fall away. If Barnes goes there it's odds on. saraman
  • Score: 0

11:05am Thu 9 Jan 14

brightonup says...

saraman wrote:
fratsomrover wrote:
Great news. This should boost our fire power no end. Goodbye Ash welcome Jon. Now we have a real striker to play alongside Leo just watch us go. The difference between Barnes and Obika summed up in one word " LETHAL ". That's exactly what has been missing and hopefully exactly what we will now get. Roll on Saturday. What odds that Burnley drop out of the top 6 now ??
Spot on Fratsomrover. I've been thinking for a while that Burnley would fall away. If Barnes goes there it's odds on.
Interesting.... I really hope you are right
... and I am wrong
But we'll see......
[quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: Great news. This should boost our fire power no end. Goodbye Ash welcome Jon. Now we have a real striker to play alongside Leo just watch us go. The difference between Barnes and Obika summed up in one word " LETHAL ". That's exactly what has been missing and hopefully exactly what we will now get. Roll on Saturday. What odds that Burnley drop out of the top 6 now ??[/p][/quote]Spot on Fratsomrover. I've been thinking for a while that Burnley would fall away. If Barnes goes there it's odds on.[/p][/quote]Interesting.... I really hope you are right ... and I am wrong But we'll see...... brightonup
  • Score: 1

11:08am Thu 9 Jan 14

Far gull says...

Good luck Ash and thank you. This busy window wss always going to happen folks. OG has now had 6 months with squad and has assesed who HE wants and thinks he needs. Happy days ahead i am sure but as i have said before Ash has not been clinical enough for us ,enough to put us in promotion slots so we must move on and try another option or two.
Good luck Ash and thank you. This busy window wss always going to happen folks. OG has now had 6 months with squad and has assesed who HE wants and thinks he needs. Happy days ahead i am sure but as i have said before Ash has not been clinical enough for us ,enough to put us in promotion slots so we must move on and try another option or two. Far gull
  • Score: 4

11:10am Thu 9 Jan 14

slush789 says...

THIS IS GOOD NEWS
THIS IS GOOD NEWS slush789
  • Score: 1

11:17am Thu 9 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Far gull wrote:
Good luck Ash and thank you. This busy window wss always going to happen folks. OG has now had 6 months with squad and has assesed who HE wants and thinks he needs. Happy days ahead i am sure but as i have said before Ash has not been clinical enough for us ,enough to put us in promotion slots so we must move on and try another option or two.
We really have to get over this obsession with chances converted. Yes, it's always nice to have a better ratio, but Barnes brings so much more to the game than just that.
[quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: Good luck Ash and thank you. This busy window wss always going to happen folks. OG has now had 6 months with squad and has assesed who HE wants and thinks he needs. Happy days ahead i am sure but as i have said before Ash has not been clinical enough for us ,enough to put us in promotion slots so we must move on and try another option or two.[/p][/quote]We really have to get over this obsession with chances converted. Yes, it's always nice to have a better ratio, but Barnes brings so much more to the game than just that. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 3

12:05pm Thu 9 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Some on ere are suggesting that the club is wrong, to accept a deal for Barnes is somehow letting the side down, I don't get that.
Ash has had a deal on the table for a long time but has not picked it up, that's his choice. The club can't make him sign a new deal and letting him go for nothing at the end of the season would be crazy considering that 750k is on the table right now.
I like Barnes, I would rather he stay than go, but the lad is choosing not to stay.
Some on ere are suggesting that the club is wrong, to accept a deal for Barnes is somehow letting the side down, I don't get that. Ash has had a deal on the table for a long time but has not picked it up, that's his choice. The club can't make him sign a new deal and letting him go for nothing at the end of the season would be crazy considering that 750k is on the table right now. I like Barnes, I would rather he stay than go, but the lad is choosing not to stay. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

12:44pm Thu 9 Jan 14

tinker111 says...

Aye Aye wrote:
I can't help but feel this is a curious move. Potentially, with the current form of the two A-list strikers at Burnley and, at £750K, he's expensive cover. I'm genuinely sorry to see him go, if his departure proves to be the outcome of all this, as I have warmed to him and his attitude but then I also see it as an opportunity to strengthen. It remains to be seen whether Obika has anything to offer but he seems to be well regarded by many and with Ulloa back in contention, we have a a little less to worry about up front.
funny how when he is going he ASH becomes the best thing since sliced bread for me have always been a fan and wish him the very best ,His work rate will be sadly missed.
[quote][p][bold]Aye Aye[/bold] wrote: I can't help but feel this is a curious move. Potentially, with the current form of the two A-list strikers at Burnley and, at £750K, he's expensive cover. I'm genuinely sorry to see him go, if his departure proves to be the outcome of all this, as I have warmed to him and his attitude but then I also see it as an opportunity to strengthen. It remains to be seen whether Obika has anything to offer but he seems to be well regarded by many and with Ulloa back in contention, we have a a little less to worry about up front.[/p][/quote]funny how when he is going he ASH becomes the best thing since sliced bread for me have always been a fan and wish him the very best ,His work rate will be sadly missed. tinker111
  • Score: 1

12:45pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Withdean-er says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Far gull wrote:
Good luck Ash and thank you. This busy window wss always going to happen folks. OG has now had 6 months with squad and has assesed who HE wants and thinks he needs. Happy days ahead i am sure but as i have said before Ash has not been clinical enough for us ,enough to put us in promotion slots so we must move on and try another option or two.
We really have to get over this obsession with chances converted. Yes, it's always nice to have a better ratio, but Barnes brings so much more to the game than just that.
Excellent point.
If Barnes contributed very little, not mucking in elsewhere in general play e.g. in the midfield battle, like say Jordan Rhodes, then goals scored and chances converted would be key.
Surprisingly ambitious Burnley, and Leeds, have seen all the positives Barnes brings.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: Good luck Ash and thank you. This busy window wss always going to happen folks. OG has now had 6 months with squad and has assesed who HE wants and thinks he needs. Happy days ahead i am sure but as i have said before Ash has not been clinical enough for us ,enough to put us in promotion slots so we must move on and try another option or two.[/p][/quote]We really have to get over this obsession with chances converted. Yes, it's always nice to have a better ratio, but Barnes brings so much more to the game than just that.[/p][/quote]Excellent point. If Barnes contributed very little, not mucking in elsewhere in general play e.g. in the midfield battle, like say Jordan Rhodes, then goals scored and chances converted would be key. Surprisingly ambitious Burnley, and Leeds, have seen all the positives Barnes brings. Withdean-er
  • Score: 4

1:10pm Thu 9 Jan 14

fratsomrover says...

mikeygit wrote:
frats---where did you pick up the info on Burnley offering on Wells?
It's breaking news in the local Burnley paper .
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: frats---where did you pick up the info on Burnley offering on Wells?[/p][/quote]It's breaking news in the local Burnley paper . fratsomrover
  • Score: 0

1:40pm Thu 9 Jan 14

farside says...

Barnes undergoing medical at Burnley now confirmed
Barnes undergoing medical at Burnley now confirmed farside
  • Score: 1

2:04pm Thu 9 Jan 14

CumbrianSeagull says...

Alfie T wrote:
Another striker, wonder if he will be coming from abroad, I feel it in my water! :-)
Yup...from Wales..!
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: Another striker, wonder if he will be coming from abroad, I feel it in my water! :-)[/p][/quote]Yup...from Wales..! CumbrianSeagull
  • Score: 1

2:07pm Thu 9 Jan 14

CumbrianSeagull says...

If Burnley do go up, I see Barnes ending up like Conway, not in the 25 man squad......
If Burnley do go up, I see Barnes ending up like Conway, not in the 25 man squad...... CumbrianSeagull
  • Score: 1

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