Transfer window watch: Barnes sale right or wrong

Ashley Barnes. Not many Albion players have divided the opinions of fans as much as the Burnley-bound striker.

Ashley Barnes. Not many Albion players have divided the opinions of fans as much as the Burnley-bound striker.

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So are Albion right or wrong to sell Ashley Barnes to Championship rivals Burnley.

The Seagulls' marmite man has always divided opinion among supporters.

That is reflected by fans responding to chief sports reporter Andy Naylor on Twitter.

You can add you thoughts below or take part in our poll.

brightonmark: "I hope we have a really good replacement lined up as losing Barnes is a massive blow and a mistake selling him."

Sandra Hunter: "It depends if we sign someone that puts clear cut chances away, we might just think we should of done it earlier."

Mark Nickols: "I'm not sure you can turn down good £ for a striker whose workrate/defending is his most talked up quality."

Nick Whitey: "Great piece of business for us. How much we miss him depends on CMS & AB's replacement. I hope it's Mason a clinical finisher."

Craig Coughlan: "It may take Barnsey leaving to show just how good a player he was. Didn't get enough credit."

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11:41am Fri 10 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

It's a very simple answer for me.

If Ash wasn't willing to sign the new contract offered to him then it was absolutely 100% the right thing to do.
Not only have we gained a fee but we also have saved a wage for 6 months and according to another thread.. Saved money set aside for the new contract too.


Uta
It's a very simple answer for me. If Ash wasn't willing to sign the new contract offered to him then it was absolutely 100% the right thing to do. Not only have we gained a fee but we also have saved a wage for 6 months and according to another thread.. Saved money set aside for the new contract too. Uta SMF20
  • Score: 52

11:44am Fri 10 Jan 14

ColinPep1 says...

Right, because of the contract situation. But it will only be the right thing to do if a permanent signing is made this month to replace him. Otherwise we weaken our play-off chances.
Right, because of the contract situation. But it will only be the right thing to do if a permanent signing is made this month to replace him. Otherwise we weaken our play-off chances. ColinPep1
  • Score: 29

11:45am Fri 10 Jan 14

Yogi says...

Think all's been said on this subject !!! Striker on the way in news please.
Think all's been said on this subject !!! Striker on the way in news please. Yogi
  • Score: 13

11:47am Fri 10 Jan 14

Hector66 says...

an unequivocal yes we were right to sell. he's not the kind of player to take us forward.
an unequivocal yes we were right to sell. he's not the kind of player to take us forward. Hector66
  • Score: 1

11:48am Fri 10 Jan 14

twonk says...

Next!
Next! twonk
  • Score: -1

11:48am Fri 10 Jan 14

pjwilk says...

Sorry to see Ash go he is a 100% trier and has scored some cracking goals.But why would you swop living in the south for a place with a lot of poverty,at least he can buy a house cash for about £20,000.It has the lowest house prices in England.Good Luck Ash.
Sorry to see Ash go he is a 100% trier and has scored some cracking goals.But why would you swop living in the south for a place with a lot of poverty,at least he can buy a house cash for about £20,000.It has the lowest house prices in England.Good Luck Ash. pjwilk
  • Score: -1

11:48am Fri 10 Jan 14

pjwilk says...

Sorry to see Ash go he is a 100% trier and has scored some cracking goals.But why would you swop living in the south for a place with a lot of poverty,at least he can buy a house cash for about £20,000.It has the lowest house prices in England.Good Luck Ash.
Sorry to see Ash go he is a 100% trier and has scored some cracking goals.But why would you swop living in the south for a place with a lot of poverty,at least he can buy a house cash for about £20,000.It has the lowest house prices in England.Good Luck Ash. pjwilk
  • Score: -6

11:49am Fri 10 Jan 14

mikeygit says...

Of course it was the right thing to do. He obviously was not happy to sign a new contract. He WAS very professional during his time with us and contributed well. However business is business and if he was to go now was the time whilst we could still get a fee. We have been lucky with the majority of our first team players, most seem happy to stay and as I recall we have only lost Murray Bennett and Noone over the last 2couple of years, which, to me, says a lot about the club and how happy players are. It remains to be seen how the Bridcutt situation pans out, whether he stays, whether he is played---which I think he should be as he is still a Brighton player, but there may be a twist there yet, who knows. But Ash served us very well but he has moved on and so must we.
Of course it was the right thing to do. He obviously was not happy to sign a new contract. He WAS very professional during his time with us and contributed well. However business is business and if he was to go now was the time whilst we could still get a fee. We have been lucky with the majority of our first team players, most seem happy to stay and as I recall we have only lost Murray Bennett and Noone over the last 2couple of years, which, to me, says a lot about the club and how happy players are. It remains to be seen how the Bridcutt situation pans out, whether he stays, whether he is played---which I think he should be as he is still a Brighton player, but there may be a twist there yet, who knows. But Ash served us very well but he has moved on and so must we. mikeygit
  • Score: 20

11:59am Fri 10 Jan 14

Cory and Trevor says...

The right thing to do. Thanks to Ashley Barnes for being a real 100%er, and someone who responded to coaching while with us because he has improved immensely. Good luck to him.

Contoversial to many, i'm sure, but i wish we would sell Buckley too. He doesn't look like returning to his potential since successive injuries. Conway would be my replacement.
The right thing to do. Thanks to Ashley Barnes for being a real 100%er, and someone who responded to coaching while with us because he has improved immensely. Good luck to him. Contoversial to many, i'm sure, but i wish we would sell Buckley too. He doesn't look like returning to his potential since successive injuries. Conway would be my replacement. Cory and Trevor
  • Score: 15

12:10pm Fri 10 Jan 14

seegull fly in sky says...

um want um good player a bryton a no good a want not hurray a
Bryton and hobo albino a ashleyy barns boo boo boo
um want um good player a bryton a no good a want not hurray a Bryton and hobo albino a ashleyy barns boo boo boo seegull fly in sky
  • Score: -38

12:12pm Fri 10 Jan 14

mrgull says...

Quite right to sell ash,he always gave his best,but what we need now is someone with the same work rate ethic,but knows where the goal is
Quite right to sell ash,he always gave his best,but what we need now is someone with the same work rate ethic,but knows where the goal is mrgull
  • Score: 3

12:21pm Fri 10 Jan 14

and another thing.... says...

Right all things considered
Right all things considered and another thing....
  • Score: 5

12:22pm Fri 10 Jan 14

4everaseagull says...

Correct decision so as to cash in now rather than have him leave for nothing in the summer. If the fee we have received is said to be around £750K then that is good business based on what we paid for AB. There was a contract on offer from last summer which AB did not wish to sign and he exercised his wish to wait especially as Burnley stated their interest last summer as well. AB has always divided opinion myself included and for me he has never been a natural goal-scorer. I appreciate he has often been played out of position but even in the League 1 winning season the only reason he scored 20 plus had a lot to do with the space created for him by a certain Glenn Murray. I wish Ash well as he has been a good servant. Obika will be our predator alongside Leo and either CMS is on the verge of returning as we keep hearing or another permanent striker such as Mason are on their way.
Correct decision so as to cash in now rather than have him leave for nothing in the summer. If the fee we have received is said to be around £750K then that is good business based on what we paid for AB. There was a contract on offer from last summer which AB did not wish to sign and he exercised his wish to wait especially as Burnley stated their interest last summer as well. AB has always divided opinion myself included and for me he has never been a natural goal-scorer. I appreciate he has often been played out of position but even in the League 1 winning season the only reason he scored 20 plus had a lot to do with the space created for him by a certain Glenn Murray. I wish Ash well as he has been a good servant. Obika will be our predator alongside Leo and either CMS is on the verge of returning as we keep hearing or another permanent striker such as Mason are on their way. 4everaseagull
  • Score: 9

12:22pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Grendel says...

I'm sorry to see him go, a hard working and committed player who has spent much of the past three seasons playing out of position. I think he'll prove the doubters wrong when he plays regularly as a striker.

However, given he obviously didn't want to sign the contract we offered, and would have been out of contract in the summer, selling at this stage is wise. Good luck Ashley.
I'm sorry to see him go, a hard working and committed player who has spent much of the past three seasons playing out of position. I think he'll prove the doubters wrong when he plays regularly as a striker. However, given he obviously didn't want to sign the contract we offered, and would have been out of contract in the summer, selling at this stage is wise. Good luck Ashley. Grendel
  • Score: 4

12:24pm Fri 10 Jan 14

SHIPPERS4 says...

100% right thing to do for 2 reasons.
1) contact situation
2) He was never going to cut as a top championship striker or PL for that matter, not enough goals in him despite the work rate.
100% right thing to do for 2 reasons. 1) contact situation 2) He was never going to cut as a top championship striker or PL for that matter, not enough goals in him despite the work rate. SHIPPERS4
  • Score: 5

12:25pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Simon Mew says...

His poor goal rate of nearly 1 in 5 Championship games says it all.

Yes he works hard and has been asked to fill the left side role, but he is a striker, brought here to score goals and he just doesn't fit in our system.

I have no doubt when used to his strengths he will score goals and I will not be surprised to see him start scoring more.

But that doesn't mean we have lost out, he couldn't score in our system and the system won't change, happy we got a decent fee for a player who would have walked for free in the summer.

Thanks and good luck Ash.
His poor goal rate of nearly 1 in 5 Championship games says it all. Yes he works hard and has been asked to fill the left side role, but he is a striker, brought here to score goals and he just doesn't fit in our system. I have no doubt when used to his strengths he will score goals and I will not be surprised to see him start scoring more. But that doesn't mean we have lost out, he couldn't score in our system and the system won't change, happy we got a decent fee for a player who would have walked for free in the summer. Thanks and good luck Ash. Simon Mew
  • Score: 11

12:27pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Albion fan in London says...

Agree with tweet made by Nick Whitey the only way to judge whether this has been the right thing to do is if CMS comes back and starts banging in the goals or if Ashleys replacement is a better player who puts more chances away. Lets not take away Ashleys commitment on and off the pitch. Bottom line is the shelf life for a footballer is unknown and he has a family to support so three years v the unknown with us was a no brainer for him. This was good business all round, he will never be good enough to have an impact if and when we go up and £750k in the bank k to re invest elsewhere is great.

UTA
Agree with tweet made by Nick Whitey the only way to judge whether this has been the right thing to do is if CMS comes back and starts banging in the goals or if Ashleys replacement is a better player who puts more chances away. Lets not take away Ashleys commitment on and off the pitch. Bottom line is the shelf life for a footballer is unknown and he has a family to support so three years v the unknown with us was a no brainer for him. This was good business all round, he will never be good enough to have an impact if and when we go up and £750k in the bank k to re invest elsewhere is great. UTA Albion fan in London
  • Score: 6

12:28pm Fri 10 Jan 14

wiltshire seagull says...

mikeygit wrote:
Of course it was the right thing to do. He obviously was not happy to sign a new contract. He WAS very professional during his time with us and contributed well. However business is business and if he was to go now was the time whilst we could still get a fee. We have been lucky with the majority of our first team players, most seem happy to stay and as I recall we have only lost Murray Bennett and Noone over the last 2couple of years, which, to me, says a lot about the club and how happy players are. It remains to be seen how the Bridcutt situation pans out, whether he stays, whether he is played---which I think he should be as he is still a Brighton player, but there may be a twist there yet, who knows. But Ash served us very well but he has moved on and so must we.
Totally right, I think Ashley has done well for himself with a 3.5 year deal IMHO of course!!
UTA...............
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Of course it was the right thing to do. He obviously was not happy to sign a new contract. He WAS very professional during his time with us and contributed well. However business is business and if he was to go now was the time whilst we could still get a fee. We have been lucky with the majority of our first team players, most seem happy to stay and as I recall we have only lost Murray Bennett and Noone over the last 2couple of years, which, to me, says a lot about the club and how happy players are. It remains to be seen how the Bridcutt situation pans out, whether he stays, whether he is played---which I think he should be as he is still a Brighton player, but there may be a twist there yet, who knows. But Ash served us very well but he has moved on and so must we.[/p][/quote]Totally right, I think Ashley has done well for himself with a 3.5 year deal IMHO of course!! UTA............... wiltshire seagull
  • Score: 4

12:37pm Fri 10 Jan 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

All I know is that effort is not always a recipe for success! Instinct, especially in a striker, is sooooo essential. I watched, who I considered, the greatest striker of my time - Jimmy Greaves - who perhaps could be accused of never 'trying' a leg - but Wow could he put them away...........both the goals and the beers.......thankful
ly, the last is a thing of the past...........but the memories of the former stay in the mind of those who were fortunate enough to watch this genius in action. Let's trust that Obika has that same instinct!!!!

Wish Barnesey all the best - he was certainly a trier and gave his best.
All I know is that effort is not always a recipe for success! Instinct, especially in a striker, is sooooo essential. I watched, who I considered, the greatest striker of my time - Jimmy Greaves - who perhaps could be accused of never 'trying' a leg - but Wow could he put them away...........both the goals and the beers.......thankful ly, the last is a thing of the past...........but the memories of the former stay in the mind of those who were fortunate enough to watch this genius in action. Let's trust that Obika has that same instinct!!!! Wish Barnesey all the best - he was certainly a trier and gave his best. WisdomSpeaks
  • Score: 3

12:39pm Fri 10 Jan 14

dave from bexill says...

pjwilk wrote:
Sorry to see Ash go he is a 100% trier and has scored some cracking goals.But why would you swop living in the south for a place with a lot of poverty,at least he can buy a house cash for about £20,000.It has the lowest house prices in England.Good Luck Ash.
Another parochial dipstick who's never been further north than Burgess Hill
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: Sorry to see Ash go he is a 100% trier and has scored some cracking goals.But why would you swop living in the south for a place with a lot of poverty,at least he can buy a house cash for about £20,000.It has the lowest house prices in England.Good Luck Ash.[/p][/quote]Another parochial dipstick who's never been further north than Burgess Hill dave from bexill
  • Score: 7

12:58pm Fri 10 Jan 14

a1a1a1 says...

100% correct - the club now needs to tie the other players down who have contracts running out in July - or sell them too and replace. Surely a contract offered now can have clauses in regarding salary for being in the Premiership and salary for being in the Championship? Thereby getting rid of the issue in players waiting to see what league they are in, before wanting to sign?
100% correct - the club now needs to tie the other players down who have contracts running out in July - or sell them too and replace. Surely a contract offered now can have clauses in regarding salary for being in the Premiership and salary for being in the Championship? Thereby getting rid of the issue in players waiting to see what league they are in, before wanting to sign? a1a1a1
  • Score: 2

1:02pm Fri 10 Jan 14

elljam says...

£750k for a Championship level squad player (not first choice) with 6 months of his contract left is good business.
He is a trier but I personally don't think he has the touch or physique to play as the lone striker, which is the system Albion prefer to play.
If you are happy to be a mid-table Championship side then he'll do a job for you but for a team with ambitions of promotion then someone with that extra touch of quality is needed.
£750k for a Championship level squad player (not first choice) with 6 months of his contract left is good business. He is a trier but I personally don't think he has the touch or physique to play as the lone striker, which is the system Albion prefer to play. If you are happy to be a mid-table Championship side then he'll do a job for you but for a team with ambitions of promotion then someone with that extra touch of quality is needed. elljam
  • Score: 7

1:08pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Aye Aye says...

Burnley have availed themselves of a hard-working, committed goalscorer who I feel sure will be a success. For Ashley Barnes and Burnley FC, this is a good move.

For sure, this does leave a bit of a vacuum but, with a reported £750K in the bank, it gives us access to new options; there's bound to be an announcement or two on the likes of Conway and Mason. We can but hope that Obika's confidence manifests itself in goals and, of course, we have Ulloa back.

I'd be sure that TB, PB, OG et al know what they're doing and my confidence in the management team remains undiminished. A shake-up is probably what we needed for that extra impetus in the second half of the season towards a place in the play-offs.

So, in my view, this is a win-win situation. Roll on tomorrow!
Burnley have availed themselves of a hard-working, committed goalscorer who I feel sure will be a success. For Ashley Barnes and Burnley FC, this is a good move. For sure, this does leave a bit of a vacuum but, with a reported £750K in the bank, it gives us access to new options; there's bound to be an announcement or two on the likes of Conway and Mason. We can but hope that Obika's confidence manifests itself in goals and, of course, we have Ulloa back. I'd be sure that TB, PB, OG et al know what they're doing and my confidence in the management team remains undiminished. A shake-up is probably what we needed for that extra impetus in the second half of the season towards a place in the play-offs. So, in my view, this is a win-win situation. Roll on tomorrow! Aye Aye
  • Score: 6

1:13pm Fri 10 Jan 14

colz says...

Was the right thing to do.. we need players who are committed to our club, te last thing we needed was another Glenn Murray situation.
Was the right thing to do.. we need players who are committed to our club, te last thing we needed was another Glenn Murray situation. colz
  • Score: 3

1:21pm Fri 10 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

No brainer, of course it was right as he chose not to pick up the contract that was on the table.
No brainer, of course it was right as he chose not to pick up the contract that was on the table. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 5

1:37pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Albion23 says...

Good bit of business. Lets get a striker in please.
And 2 up front lets e positive and get amongst them.
Good bit of business. Lets get a striker in please. And 2 up front lets e positive and get amongst them. Albion23
  • Score: 0

1:38pm Fri 10 Jan 14

lotsofducks says...

To sell? Yes, if the price was right. Rumours of £750K, but unable to verify. If so this seems a bit low - worth 1m in my view, but I guess his contract was close to over, so maybe 750 is OK. The key, as always, is who they now buy. Mason - good move and we have Obika, so seems like good business if we can get Obika permanently, especially if we can also nab Conway.
To sell? Yes, if the price was right. Rumours of £750K, but unable to verify. If so this seems a bit low - worth 1m in my view, but I guess his contract was close to over, so maybe 750 is OK. The key, as always, is who they now buy. Mason - good move and we have Obika, so seems like good business if we can get Obika permanently, especially if we can also nab Conway. lotsofducks
  • Score: 2

1:40pm Fri 10 Jan 14

lotsofducks says...

seegull fly in sky wrote:
um want um good player a bryton a no good a want not hurray a
Bryton and hobo albino a ashleyy barns boo boo boo
What the heck language are you writing in, buddy?
[quote][p][bold]seegull fly in sky[/bold] wrote: um want um good player a bryton a no good a want not hurray a Bryton and hobo albino a ashleyy barns boo boo boo[/p][/quote]What the heck language are you writing in, buddy? lotsofducks
  • Score: 6

1:40pm Fri 10 Jan 14

fratsomrover says...

100% right to offload him. An unexpected bonus is that we get in excess of £750K for a player of such limited ability. He has proven that Championship football is a stage too far for him, so there was no way he had a future at a go ahead club such as BHA with visions of The Premiership. He's a trier, as everyone likes to point out but you need to have a bit of ability as well if you want to succeed and that was sadly lacking.
Good luck to him, but for me he was never ever going to be the striker that would get this club success at this level.
I look forward to seeing a blossoming relationship between Ulloa & Obika up front and the start of a few more goals flying into the opposition net.
It will also be nice to be at The Amex on Saturday and not hear the groans when he is named in the starting eleven.
100% right to offload him. An unexpected bonus is that we get in excess of £750K for a player of such limited ability. He has proven that Championship football is a stage too far for him, so there was no way he had a future at a go ahead club such as BHA with visions of The Premiership. He's a trier, as everyone likes to point out but you need to have a bit of ability as well if you want to succeed and that was sadly lacking. Good luck to him, but for me he was never ever going to be the striker that would get this club success at this level. I look forward to seeing a blossoming relationship between Ulloa & Obika up front and the start of a few more goals flying into the opposition net. It will also be nice to be at The Amex on Saturday and not hear the groans when he is named in the starting eleven. fratsomrover
  • Score: 0

1:45pm Fri 10 Jan 14

slush789 says...

HOORAY! Definitely the right thing to do!
HOORAY! Definitely the right thing to do! slush789
  • Score: 1

1:47pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit says...

Sadly probably right. He could have left for nothing in the summer - and probably would have done as he hadn't signed his new contract.

We'll miss him, and unlike Bridutt we haven't got an automatic in-house replacement. And no I haven't forgotten about CMS but he's not the all-round player that Barnes is.
Sadly probably right. He could have left for nothing in the summer - and probably would have done as he hadn't signed his new contract. We'll miss him, and unlike Bridutt we haven't got an automatic in-house replacement. And no I haven't forgotten about CMS but he's not the all-round player that Barnes is. Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit
  • Score: 2

1:58pm Fri 10 Jan 14

graham w says...

Totally agree with yr thoughts smf.. a good bit of business for a player not best loved...good luck ash. Maybe you will grow up in the north.uta ...
Totally agree with yr thoughts smf.. a good bit of business for a player not best loved...good luck ash. Maybe you will grow up in the north.uta ... graham w
  • Score: -2

2:13pm Fri 10 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

We are a Champ Div club, money matters. Barnes had a contract that was ending this year, we got 750k+, money matters.
Obika, he too will see his contract end this year, we got him on a three month loan, and, when that loan period ends his contract will be worth zip, we get him on a free, if we want him, money matters.
Potentially two good bits of business.
We are a Champ Div club, money matters. Barnes had a contract that was ending this year, we got 750k+, money matters. Obika, he too will see his contract end this year, we got him on a three month loan, and, when that loan period ends his contract will be worth zip, we get him on a free, if we want him, money matters. Potentially two good bits of business. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -2

2:18pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Aye Aye says...

OG's comments on the Seagull website demonstrate his class!
OG's comments on the Seagull website demonstrate his class! Aye Aye
  • Score: 1

2:22pm Fri 10 Jan 14

ballantrrae says...

mikeygit wrote:
Of course it was the right thing to do. He obviously was not happy to sign a new contract. He WAS very professional during his time with us and contributed well. However business is business and if he was to go now was the time whilst we could still get a fee. We have been lucky with the majority of our first team players, most seem happy to stay and as I recall we have only lost Murray Bennett and Noone over the last 2couple of years, which, to me, says a lot about the club and how happy players are. It remains to be seen how the Bridcutt situation pans out, whether he stays, whether he is played---which I think he should be as he is still a Brighton player, but there may be a twist there yet, who knows. But Ash served us very well but he has moved on and so must we.
A number of pertinent comments Mikeygit.
I reserve judgement until we see exactly who his replacement is. Much might depend on the Bridcutt situation. If Bridcutt stays then we have a Budget of just over £750,000 to buy ABs replacement say Joe Mason from Cardiff. However if Bridcutt leaves which looks likely then we will have rather more funds available with which to replace AB. Of course if Bridcutt leaves we might also want to bring in another midfielder. I still feel we would benefit by signing an attacking midfielder and I hope that Conway returns as well.
Perhaps the most important news today was Ince signing a new contract. Interesting times.
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Of course it was the right thing to do. He obviously was not happy to sign a new contract. He WAS very professional during his time with us and contributed well. However business is business and if he was to go now was the time whilst we could still get a fee. We have been lucky with the majority of our first team players, most seem happy to stay and as I recall we have only lost Murray Bennett and Noone over the last 2couple of years, which, to me, says a lot about the club and how happy players are. It remains to be seen how the Bridcutt situation pans out, whether he stays, whether he is played---which I think he should be as he is still a Brighton player, but there may be a twist there yet, who knows. But Ash served us very well but he has moved on and so must we.[/p][/quote]A number of pertinent comments Mikeygit. I reserve judgement until we see exactly who his replacement is. Much might depend on the Bridcutt situation. If Bridcutt stays then we have a Budget of just over £750,000 to buy ABs replacement say Joe Mason from Cardiff. However if Bridcutt leaves which looks likely then we will have rather more funds available with which to replace AB. Of course if Bridcutt leaves we might also want to bring in another midfielder. I still feel we would benefit by signing an attacking midfielder and I hope that Conway returns as well. Perhaps the most important news today was Ince signing a new contract. Interesting times. ballantrrae
  • Score: -1

2:34pm Fri 10 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

ballantrrae wrote:
mikeygit wrote:
Of course it was the right thing to do. He obviously was not happy to sign a new contract. He WAS very professional during his time with us and contributed well. However business is business and if he was to go now was the time whilst we could still get a fee. We have been lucky with the majority of our first team players, most seem happy to stay and as I recall we have only lost Murray Bennett and Noone over the last 2couple of years, which, to me, says a lot about the club and how happy players are. It remains to be seen how the Bridcutt situation pans out, whether he stays, whether he is played---which I think he should be as he is still a Brighton player, but there may be a twist there yet, who knows. But Ash served us very well but he has moved on and so must we.
A number of pertinent comments Mikeygit.
I reserve judgement until we see exactly who his replacement is. Much might depend on the Bridcutt situation. If Bridcutt stays then we have a Budget of just over £750,000 to buy ABs replacement say Joe Mason from Cardiff. However if Bridcutt leaves which looks likely then we will have rather more funds available with which to replace AB. Of course if Bridcutt leaves we might also want to bring in another midfielder. I still feel we would benefit by signing an attacking midfielder and I hope that Conway returns as well.
Perhaps the most important news today was Ince signing a new contract. Interesting times.
One could argue that at least for the next three months we have replaced Barnes with the loan deal of Obika. We have him on a three month deal but we can make that a, 'rest of season,' deal if we act before this window closes. Sign Mason and we have cover for Ulloa and Obika.
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Of course it was the right thing to do. He obviously was not happy to sign a new contract. He WAS very professional during his time with us and contributed well. However business is business and if he was to go now was the time whilst we could still get a fee. We have been lucky with the majority of our first team players, most seem happy to stay and as I recall we have only lost Murray Bennett and Noone over the last 2couple of years, which, to me, says a lot about the club and how happy players are. It remains to be seen how the Bridcutt situation pans out, whether he stays, whether he is played---which I think he should be as he is still a Brighton player, but there may be a twist there yet, who knows. But Ash served us very well but he has moved on and so must we.[/p][/quote]A number of pertinent comments Mikeygit. I reserve judgement until we see exactly who his replacement is. Much might depend on the Bridcutt situation. If Bridcutt stays then we have a Budget of just over £750,000 to buy ABs replacement say Joe Mason from Cardiff. However if Bridcutt leaves which looks likely then we will have rather more funds available with which to replace AB. Of course if Bridcutt leaves we might also want to bring in another midfielder. I still feel we would benefit by signing an attacking midfielder and I hope that Conway returns as well. Perhaps the most important news today was Ince signing a new contract. Interesting times.[/p][/quote]One could argue that at least for the next three months we have replaced Barnes with the loan deal of Obika. We have him on a three month deal but we can make that a, 'rest of season,' deal if we act before this window closes. Sign Mason and we have cover for Ulloa and Obika. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

2:36pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Definitely the right thing to do, which has been driven by his not willing to sign a new contract.
The question I ask myself is why didn't he sign that contract.
My only answer is his lack of rapport with the fans who failed to recognise his value to the team. I know people argue about his lack of goals but he is not an out and out striker and has played out of position for most of the season.
Even the Argus describes him as marmite man but this is a classic example of what happens when fans don't get behind every man in the team.
Since Ash came here he has improved consistently and would have continued to do so given the chance but unfortunately he has made the choice to go and I fear Burnley will benefit from his going.
So support every player. Constant criticism only depletes confidence and that's what it's all about. We are the twelfth man. UTA
Definitely the right thing to do, which has been driven by his not willing to sign a new contract. The question I ask myself is why didn't he sign that contract. My only answer is his lack of rapport with the fans who failed to recognise his value to the team. I know people argue about his lack of goals but he is not an out and out striker and has played out of position for most of the season. Even the Argus describes him as marmite man but this is a classic example of what happens when fans don't get behind every man in the team. Since Ash came here he has improved consistently and would have continued to do so given the chance but unfortunately he has made the choice to go and I fear Burnley will benefit from his going. So support every player. Constant criticism only depletes confidence and that's what it's all about. We are the twelfth man. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 4

2:44pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

CMS will, by his own words, be back soon. That will give us three strikers including Obika, with the possibility of another coming in. Getting £750k for a player who would have gone for nothing in a few months is a decent piece of business, although I think we will miss him.
CMS will, by his own words, be back soon. That will give us three strikers including Obika, with the possibility of another coming in. Getting £750k for a player who would have gone for nothing in a few months is a decent piece of business, although I think we will miss him. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 3

2:53pm Fri 10 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Joel do you not think that Barnes might have just wanted a new challenge, oh yeah, and a bigger pay cheque? Fans are a fickle bunch, they love you today and slap you down tomorrow, that happens at every club to one degree or another.
Last year Poyet was saying that we needed to be more, 'clinical,' in front of goal, this year Oscar is saying the same, there is a reason for those words and they are directed more to those playing up front and the attacking midfielders than they are to the defenders and defensive midfielders.
Barnes, David and Buckley, all three have had good chances to score but missed the target, perhaps they have been off target too many times, and when that happens the fans will get on their backs.

Barnes was good for Brighton and Brighton was good for Barnes but both need to hit the refresh button, Barnes knew this and so did the club.
Joel do you not think that Barnes might have just wanted a new challenge, oh yeah, and a bigger pay cheque? Fans are a fickle bunch, they love you today and slap you down tomorrow, that happens at every club to one degree or another. Last year Poyet was saying that we needed to be more, 'clinical,' in front of goal, this year Oscar is saying the same, there is a reason for those words and they are directed more to those playing up front and the attacking midfielders than they are to the defenders and defensive midfielders. Barnes, David and Buckley, all three have had good chances to score but missed the target, perhaps they have been off target too many times, and when that happens the fans will get on their backs. Barnes was good for Brighton and Brighton was good for Barnes but both need to hit the refresh button, Barnes knew this and so did the club. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

2:53pm Fri 10 Jan 14

pjwilk says...

dave from bexill wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
Sorry to see Ash go he is a 100% trier and has scored some cracking goals.But why would you swop living in the south for a place with a lot of poverty,at least he can buy a house cash for about £20,000.It has the lowest house prices in England.Good Luck Ash.
Another parochial dipstick who's never been further north than Burgess Hill
So wrong dave from bexhilli i am very well traveled.You ever been out of Bexhill.?
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: Sorry to see Ash go he is a 100% trier and has scored some cracking goals.But why would you swop living in the south for a place with a lot of poverty,at least he can buy a house cash for about £20,000.It has the lowest house prices in England.Good Luck Ash.[/p][/quote]Another parochial dipstick who's never been further north than Burgess Hill[/p][/quote]So wrong dave from bexhilli i am very well traveled.You ever been out of Bexhill.? pjwilk
  • Score: -1

2:59pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Brighton Bill says...

Possibly a good move but not at this time, are they relying on CMS coming back soon to fill the void. Yorkshire Seagull
Possibly a good move but not at this time, are they relying on CMS coming back soon to fill the void. Yorkshire Seagull Brighton Bill
  • Score: 1

3:01pm Fri 10 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

pjwilk wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
Sorry to see Ash go he is a 100% trier and has scored some cracking goals.But why would you swop living in the south for a place with a lot of poverty,at least he can buy a house cash for about £20,000.It has the lowest house prices in England.Good Luck Ash.
Another parochial dipstick who's never been further north than Burgess Hill
So wrong dave from bexhilli i am very well traveled.You ever been out of Bexhill.?
I'm well travelled, I like to travel, anyone else like to travel, who wants to compare passport stampings?
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: Sorry to see Ash go he is a 100% trier and has scored some cracking goals.But why would you swop living in the south for a place with a lot of poverty,at least he can buy a house cash for about £20,000.It has the lowest house prices in England.Good Luck Ash.[/p][/quote]Another parochial dipstick who's never been further north than Burgess Hill[/p][/quote]So wrong dave from bexhilli i am very well traveled.You ever been out of Bexhill.?[/p][/quote]I'm well travelled, I like to travel, anyone else like to travel, who wants to compare passport stampings? VegasSeagull
  • Score: -5

3:01pm Fri 10 Jan 14

seagulls12 says...

He will be missed imho, its nice to have players with a nice touch and who knows where the goal is, and yes they are very important of course! but its also good to have a player to do the dirty work. Good luck ash, you will be missed.
He will be missed imho, its nice to have players with a nice touch and who knows where the goal is, and yes they are very important of course! but its also good to have a player to do the dirty work. Good luck ash, you will be missed. seagulls12
  • Score: -1

3:06pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Brighton Bill says...

pjwilk wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
Sorry to see Ash go he is a 100% trier and has scored some cracking goals.But why would you swop living in the south for a place with a lot of poverty,at least he can buy a house cash for about £20,000.It has the lowest house prices in England.Good Luck Ash.
Another parochial dipstick who's never been further north than Burgess Hill
So wrong dave from bexhilli i am very well traveled.You ever been out of Bexhill.?
I have travelled all over England there are poor parts in EVERY Town or City, just like good and bad pubs and woman..
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: Sorry to see Ash go he is a 100% trier and has scored some cracking goals.But why would you swop living in the south for a place with a lot of poverty,at least he can buy a house cash for about £20,000.It has the lowest house prices in England.Good Luck Ash.[/p][/quote]Another parochial dipstick who's never been further north than Burgess Hill[/p][/quote]So wrong dave from bexhilli i am very well traveled.You ever been out of Bexhill.?[/p][/quote]I have travelled all over England there are poor parts in EVERY Town or City, just like good and bad pubs and woman.. Brighton Bill
  • Score: -1

3:09pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Wrapson Family says...

Sad indicment of the game today which is about economics/finance as much as footballing tactics.
I think the sale was the right move as his contract renewal must be valued against the cost and his future value. AB has been performg well and possibly now is the time to cash in.
For the fans it would be great to replace him with a player who can score regularly and assist leo and others to get the goals.
If not we need to know when CMS is scheduled to return as the silence is deafening
Sad indicment of the game today which is about economics/finance as much as footballing tactics. I think the sale was the right move as his contract renewal must be valued against the cost and his future value. AB has been performg well and possibly now is the time to cash in. For the fans it would be great to replace him with a player who can score regularly and assist leo and others to get the goals. If not we need to know when CMS is scheduled to return as the silence is deafening Wrapson Family
  • Score: -2

3:25pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Chi Gull says...

Wrapson Family wrote:
Sad indicment of the game today which is about economics/finance as much as footballing tactics.
I think the sale was the right move as his contract renewal must be valued against the cost and his future value. AB has been performg well and possibly now is the time to cash in.
For the fans it would be great to replace him with a player who can score regularly and assist leo and others to get the goals.
If not we need to know when CMS is scheduled to return as the silence is deafening
You need to look at CMS's twitter feed where there is an almost daily update on his progress. Still currently on course for a late Jan return. It has also been reported on here a few times over the last couple of weeks.
[quote][p][bold]Wrapson Family[/bold] wrote: Sad indicment of the game today which is about economics/finance as much as footballing tactics. I think the sale was the right move as his contract renewal must be valued against the cost and his future value. AB has been performg well and possibly now is the time to cash in. For the fans it would be great to replace him with a player who can score regularly and assist leo and others to get the goals. If not we need to know when CMS is scheduled to return as the silence is deafening[/p][/quote]You need to look at CMS's twitter feed where there is an almost daily update on his progress. Still currently on course for a late Jan return. It has also been reported on here a few times over the last couple of weeks. Chi Gull
  • Score: 1

3:33pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Yogi says...

WisdomSpeaks wrote:
All I know is that effort is not always a recipe for success! Instinct, especially in a striker, is sooooo essential. I watched, who I considered, the greatest striker of my time - Jimmy Greaves - who perhaps could be accused of never 'trying' a leg - but Wow could he put them away...........both the goals and the beers.......thankful

ly, the last is a thing of the past...........but the memories of the former stay in the mind of those who were fortunate enough to watch this genius in action. Let's trust that Obika has that same instinct!!!!

Wish Barnesey all the best - he was certainly a trier and gave his best.
Agree Greavesie was a fantastic goalscorer. He was great to watch and very clever off the ball always taking defenders out of the game with his brilliant runs.
Hope we pick up 2/3 signings quickly.
[quote][p][bold]WisdomSpeaks[/bold] wrote: All I know is that effort is not always a recipe for success! Instinct, especially in a striker, is sooooo essential. I watched, who I considered, the greatest striker of my time - Jimmy Greaves - who perhaps could be accused of never 'trying' a leg - but Wow could he put them away...........both the goals and the beers.......thankful ly, the last is a thing of the past...........but the memories of the former stay in the mind of those who were fortunate enough to watch this genius in action. Let's trust that Obika has that same instinct!!!! Wish Barnesey all the best - he was certainly a trier and gave his best.[/p][/quote]Agree Greavesie was a fantastic goalscorer. He was great to watch and very clever off the ball always taking defenders out of the game with his brilliant runs. Hope we pick up 2/3 signings quickly. Yogi
  • Score: 2

3:39pm Fri 10 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

As I am 8 hours behind you guys in the UK, I had thought that I would wake up to find that Sunderland had made a new and improved offer for Bridcutt, so far this appears not to be the case.
Bridcutt will e available for selection tomorrow, and I can't see Oscar not sending him out to play, this is a risk for Sunderland, even if only a slight risk. Now it could be that all sorts of talks have been going on that we know nothing about, but it's also possible that they haven't. Could it be that Sunderland cooling off their interest in Bridders?
Poyet in busy bringing in foreign players and is moaning about how hard he is finding it to do business with UK clubs, was this a reference to the Bridcutt deal?
As I am 8 hours behind you guys in the UK, I had thought that I would wake up to find that Sunderland had made a new and improved offer for Bridcutt, so far this appears not to be the case. Bridcutt will e available for selection tomorrow, and I can't see Oscar not sending him out to play, this is a risk for Sunderland, even if only a slight risk. Now it could be that all sorts of talks have been going on that we know nothing about, but it's also possible that they haven't. Could it be that Sunderland cooling off their interest in Bridders? Poyet in busy bringing in foreign players and is moaning about how hard he is finding it to do business with UK clubs, was this a reference to the Bridcutt deal? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

3:53pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Brighton Bill says...

Re: "Barnes" on the Yorkshire Post Website Leeds fans are livid he chose Burnley over them. Yorkshire Seagull
Re: "Barnes" on the Yorkshire Post Website Leeds fans are livid he chose Burnley over them. Yorkshire Seagull Brighton Bill
  • Score: 3

3:54pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Neville says...

Yes the right decision for all parties and now lets see what money if any is used to strengthen. The playing budget which had a slight increase from last year has not been fully used up and with these additional funds and then perhaps Bridcutt and Buckley going it will interesting to see what the financial move is,will the money be kept to accomodate FFP,although currently we seem to one of a handful of teams who seem to be adhering to the rules,hopefully not to the detriment of challenging for promotion.
The fans do expect some investment and soon,as for CMS he won't be fully match fit until early March as things stand.
Yes the right decision for all parties and now lets see what money if any is used to strengthen. The playing budget which had a slight increase from last year has not been fully used up and with these additional funds and then perhaps Bridcutt and Buckley going it will interesting to see what the financial move is,will the money be kept to accomodate FFP,although currently we seem to one of a handful of teams who seem to be adhering to the rules,hopefully not to the detriment of challenging for promotion. The fans do expect some investment and soon,as for CMS he won't be fully match fit until early March as things stand. Neville
  • Score: 0

4:37pm Fri 10 Jan 14

brightonup says...

Although I would agree (with reservations) that we were right to sell Barnes, the consensus here is clearly not shared by Albion fans who responded to this Burnley site....

http://nonaynever.ne
t/18071/brighton-fan
s-on-ashley-barnes/
Although I would agree (with reservations) that we were right to sell Barnes, the consensus here is clearly not shared by Albion fans who responded to this Burnley site.... http://nonaynever.ne t/18071/brighton-fan s-on-ashley-barnes/ brightonup
  • Score: 0

4:48pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Vegas
You may well be right but I just have this feeling the fan's response to him didn't make him feel wanted and that's why he wanted away. You see when you look at the Albion set up now I can't imagine why any player would want to leave. Then I am a lifelong fan with rose tinted glasses. There is also the contract he was offered. Did the Albion offer him less than he thought he was worth due to FFP.
We'll probably never know but it is now getting exciting with the prospect of new players coming in. UTA and 3 points tomorrow.
Vegas You may well be right but I just have this feeling the fan's response to him didn't make him feel wanted and that's why he wanted away. You see when you look at the Albion set up now I can't imagine why any player would want to leave. Then I am a lifelong fan with rose tinted glasses. There is also the contract he was offered. Did the Albion offer him less than he thought he was worth due to FFP. We'll probably never know but it is now getting exciting with the prospect of new players coming in. UTA and 3 points tomorrow. Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 0

4:50pm Fri 10 Jan 14

fifamanager says...

This is the best news I have heard in ages...Happy New Year, now let's go and get someone who can put away chances and take us up.
This is the best news I have heard in ages...Happy New Year, now let's go and get someone who can put away chances and take us up. fifamanager
  • Score: 2

5:00pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Seagulls over Thanet says...

Ash will do as well for Burnley as he did for us and that was not good enough. I agree he is a nice chap and good professional who always gives 100% but when we drop points to struggling sides I find it hard to appreciate such qualities. Ulloa is a goal scorer; we need another.
Ash will do as well for Burnley as he did for us and that was not good enough. I agree he is a nice chap and good professional who always gives 100% but when we drop points to struggling sides I find it hard to appreciate such qualities. Ulloa is a goal scorer; we need another. Seagulls over Thanet
  • Score: 2

5:19pm Fri 10 Jan 14

mark by the sea says...

Having been away for a few days! Things have moved on a pace! Seems like players only care about money! How Burnley can pay more in wages than us is a mystery..
Bridcutt is clearly desperate to leave, having turned down the chance of 250k had he been sold without a transfer request, clearly Sunderland have offered him simply more than he could dream of when Chelsea' kicked him into touch .
No doubt the Albion have upped there contract offer for ince ! The coincidence of losing one and another going in next few days needed to be sorted rather than left... .. Club have a balancing act over next 21 days, not only chasing a play off spot, but keeping season ticket holders on side.
I did hear from a Celtic friend of mine who mentioned van dyke is being watched by United / city and Newcastle...
I mention that as a question , is the club a good payer? Do we back our scouts ? I will no doubt be criticised ... But I do wonder if we are in the top 12 in the country in terms of gate receipt .. How can Burnley offer Barnes more ?
I say that as Burnley are a very well run club!
Great news on ince... I would imagine his signature was a massive priority as season ticket sales are crucial to the clubs finance.
Having been away for a few days! Things have moved on a pace! Seems like players only care about money! How Burnley can pay more in wages than us is a mystery.. Bridcutt is clearly desperate to leave, having turned down the chance of 250k had he been sold without a transfer request, clearly Sunderland have offered him simply more than he could dream of when Chelsea' kicked him into touch . No doubt the Albion have upped there contract offer for ince ! The coincidence of losing one and another going in next few days needed to be sorted rather than left... .. Club have a balancing act over next 21 days, not only chasing a play off spot, but keeping season ticket holders on side. I did hear from a Celtic friend of mine who mentioned van dyke is being watched by United / city and Newcastle... I mention that as a question , is the club a good payer? Do we back our scouts ? I will no doubt be criticised ... But I do wonder if we are in the top 12 in the country in terms of gate receipt .. How can Burnley offer Barnes more ? I say that as Burnley are a very well run club! Great news on ince... I would imagine his signature was a massive priority as season ticket sales are crucial to the clubs finance. mark by the sea
  • Score: -1

5:38pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Piglet1 says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Having been away for a few days! Things have moved on a pace! Seems like players only care about money! How Burnley can pay more in wages than us is a mystery..
Bridcutt is clearly desperate to leave, having turned down the chance of 250k had he been sold without a transfer request, clearly Sunderland have offered him simply more than he could dream of when Chelsea' kicked him into touch .
No doubt the Albion have upped there contract offer for ince ! The coincidence of losing one and another going in next few days needed to be sorted rather than left... .. Club have a balancing act over next 21 days, not only chasing a play off spot, but keeping season ticket holders on side.
I did hear from a Celtic friend of mine who mentioned van dyke is being watched by United / city and Newcastle...
I mention that as a question , is the club a good payer? Do we back our scouts ? I will no doubt be criticised ... But I do wonder if we are in the top 12 in the country in terms of gate receipt .. How can Burnley offer Barnes more ?
I say that as Burnley are a very well run club!
Great news on ince... I would imagine his signature was a massive priority as season ticket sales are crucial to the clubs finance.
Surely it is not what we can afford but more what we consider he is worth!
Burley are overpaying him I expect. Good business involves getting the best deal for the club and if we can get a better player than Barnes for the wages we were offering him then in the long run we are better off.
That may not happen overnight but we are in for the long haul.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Having been away for a few days! Things have moved on a pace! Seems like players only care about money! How Burnley can pay more in wages than us is a mystery.. Bridcutt is clearly desperate to leave, having turned down the chance of 250k had he been sold without a transfer request, clearly Sunderland have offered him simply more than he could dream of when Chelsea' kicked him into touch . No doubt the Albion have upped there contract offer for ince ! The coincidence of losing one and another going in next few days needed to be sorted rather than left... .. Club have a balancing act over next 21 days, not only chasing a play off spot, but keeping season ticket holders on side. I did hear from a Celtic friend of mine who mentioned van dyke is being watched by United / city and Newcastle... I mention that as a question , is the club a good payer? Do we back our scouts ? I will no doubt be criticised ... But I do wonder if we are in the top 12 in the country in terms of gate receipt .. How can Burnley offer Barnes more ? I say that as Burnley are a very well run club! Great news on ince... I would imagine his signature was a massive priority as season ticket sales are crucial to the clubs finance.[/p][/quote]Surely it is not what we can afford but more what we consider he is worth! Burley are overpaying him I expect. Good business involves getting the best deal for the club and if we can get a better player than Barnes for the wages we were offering him then in the long run we are better off. That may not happen overnight but we are in for the long haul. Piglet1
  • Score: 6

5:49pm Fri 10 Jan 14

wiseman of hove says...

Never able to fault Barnes for effort and commitment and I somewhat belatedly recognised his contribution. However, not quite good enough for this Albion setup now. I think this is excellent business by the Albion.
Never able to fault Barnes for effort and commitment and I somewhat belatedly recognised his contribution. However, not quite good enough for this Albion setup now. I think this is excellent business by the Albion. wiseman of hove
  • Score: 4

6:05pm Fri 10 Jan 14

dave from bexill says...

I think it's probably fair to say that when players move to another club, it's to earn more money, better themselves or because they believe they remain in the managers medium/long term plans. As Mark above says, it's difficult to believe that Burnley were able to offer that much more than the Albion or that they have better prospects than us, despite the current league placings of the respective clubs. I wonder therefore if Ashley wanted better assurances of his place in the squad in view of the return of important players following injury and the impending inclusion of new attacking players.Assurance that OG couldn't honestly give.
Anyway, good luck Ashley, it's been mostly fun, but also very frustrating on occasion watching you over the last few years.
I think it's probably fair to say that when players move to another club, it's to earn more money, better themselves or because they believe they remain in the managers medium/long term plans. As Mark above says, it's difficult to believe that Burnley were able to offer that much more than the Albion or that they have better prospects than us, despite the current league placings of the respective clubs. I wonder therefore if Ashley wanted better assurances of his place in the squad in view of the return of important players following injury and the impending inclusion of new attacking players.Assurance that OG couldn't honestly give. Anyway, good luck Ashley, it's been mostly fun, but also very frustrating on occasion watching you over the last few years. dave from bexill
  • Score: 4

6:08pm Fri 10 Jan 14

dave from bexill says...

Sorry, should read... "because they don't believe"...
Sorry, should read... "because they don't believe"... dave from bexill
  • Score: 0

6:22pm Fri 10 Jan 14

To baldly go says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Having been away for a few days! Things have moved on a pace! Seems like players only care about money! How Burnley can pay more in wages than us is a mystery..
Bridcutt is clearly desperate to leave, having turned down the chance of 250k had he been sold without a transfer request, clearly Sunderland have offered him simply more than he could dream of when Chelsea' kicked him into touch .
No doubt the Albion have upped there contract offer for ince ! The coincidence of losing one and another going in next few days needed to be sorted rather than left... .. Club have a balancing act over next 21 days, not only chasing a play off spot, but keeping season ticket holders on side.
I did hear from a Celtic friend of mine who mentioned van dyke is being watched by United / city and Newcastle...
I mention that as a question , is the club a good payer? Do we back our scouts ? I will no doubt be criticised ... But I do wonder if we are in the top 12 in the country in terms of gate receipt .. How can Burnley offer Barnes more ?
I say that as Burnley are a very well run club!
Great news on ince... I would imagine his signature was a massive priority as season ticket sales are crucial to the clubs finance.
All players care about IS money, we're not talking £50 a week difference here! We are looking at players getting £1000s of pounds extra a WEEK just for signing for another club, if Burnley offered Barnes an extra £1k a week plus win bonus's etc, for a 3-1/2 yr contract that's an extra £250k he's just been paid. Do the Albion have the money to pay that sort of money, yes, if we want to go down the Pompey route, but the club is in this for he long haul, I hate the FFP as much as everyone else but give it a couple of seasons and we will be the envy of those that have flouted the rules.
On the Ince deal, if he has signed today this would have been in discussions for weeks and not a knee jerk reaction by the club, what we see in him is also what he sees in us, bigger and better things await this club and all those who stay with it.
Some people thought season tickets would drop if Bridcutt was sold, I think now with the way things are going sales will increase again next season even if we are still in the same division, the next few months will see us score more goals and move up the table, an auto spot might just be out of reach but in this division you can never tell. UTA
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Having been away for a few days! Things have moved on a pace! Seems like players only care about money! How Burnley can pay more in wages than us is a mystery.. Bridcutt is clearly desperate to leave, having turned down the chance of 250k had he been sold without a transfer request, clearly Sunderland have offered him simply more than he could dream of when Chelsea' kicked him into touch . No doubt the Albion have upped there contract offer for ince ! The coincidence of losing one and another going in next few days needed to be sorted rather than left... .. Club have a balancing act over next 21 days, not only chasing a play off spot, but keeping season ticket holders on side. I did hear from a Celtic friend of mine who mentioned van dyke is being watched by United / city and Newcastle... I mention that as a question , is the club a good payer? Do we back our scouts ? I will no doubt be criticised ... But I do wonder if we are in the top 12 in the country in terms of gate receipt .. How can Burnley offer Barnes more ? I say that as Burnley are a very well run club! Great news on ince... I would imagine his signature was a massive priority as season ticket sales are crucial to the clubs finance.[/p][/quote]All players care about IS money, we're not talking £50 a week difference here! We are looking at players getting £1000s of pounds extra a WEEK just for signing for another club, if Burnley offered Barnes an extra £1k a week plus win bonus's etc, for a 3-1/2 yr contract that's an extra £250k he's just been paid. Do the Albion have the money to pay that sort of money, yes, if we want to go down the Pompey route, but the club is in this for he long haul, I hate the FFP as much as everyone else but give it a couple of seasons and we will be the envy of those that have flouted the rules. On the Ince deal, if he has signed today this would have been in discussions for weeks and not a knee jerk reaction by the club, what we see in him is also what he sees in us, bigger and better things await this club and all those who stay with it. Some people thought season tickets would drop if Bridcutt was sold, I think now with the way things are going sales will increase again next season even if we are still in the same division, the next few months will see us score more goals and move up the table, an auto spot might just be out of reach but in this division you can never tell. UTA To baldly go
  • Score: 4

6:55pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Rougvie Legend says...

Cant be wrong with the contract situation otherwise surely the fee would have been higher , theres a lot of posts around Barnes gives 100% but misses the target all to often which i would not argue with , in Barnes defence he has been the lone striker , we dont seem to allow Ash this excuse
but we do CMS who also gives 100% but has hardly been prolific in the Championship either , just the way i see it , i will sit in my seat tomorrow and get behind who ever pulls the Blue and White on , as long as its not Mark Farrington lol
Cant be wrong with the contract situation otherwise surely the fee would have been higher , theres a lot of posts around Barnes gives 100% but misses the target all to often which i would not argue with , in Barnes defence he has been the lone striker , we dont seem to allow Ash this excuse but we do CMS who also gives 100% but has hardly been prolific in the Championship either , just the way i see it , i will sit in my seat tomorrow and get behind who ever pulls the Blue and White on , as long as its not Mark Farrington lol Rougvie Legend
  • Score: 1

6:59pm Fri 10 Jan 14

ringtone says...

I thought things were bad, but not this bad.

Now we are a feeder club for Mighty Burnley.
I thought things were bad, but not this bad. Now we are a feeder club for Mighty Burnley. ringtone
  • Score: -1

7:10pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Ringmer Rich says...

Barnes will be missed. He gave the team an added dimension. I can understand why he left, with the continuous slagging off on here and NSC. I have to hold my hands up, as I was guilty of that a few times at the Amex when he kept missing penalties. Hope he does really well; with all the barracking, he still gave his all even when he wasn't playing well.

Good luck Ash, I think you'll be heading for the prem this season.
Barnes will be missed. He gave the team an added dimension. I can understand why he left, with the continuous slagging off on here and NSC. I have to hold my hands up, as I was guilty of that a few times at the Amex when he kept missing penalties. Hope he does really well; with all the barracking, he still gave his all even when he wasn't playing well. Good luck Ash, I think you'll be heading for the prem this season. Ringmer Rich
  • Score: 0

7:24pm Fri 10 Jan 14

estherbill7 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
Sorry to see Ash go he is a 100% trier and has scored some cracking goals.But why would you swop living in the south for a place with a lot of poverty,at least he can buy a house cash for about £20,000.It has the lowest house prices in England.Good Luck Ash.
Another parochial dipstick who's never been further north than Burgess Hill
So wrong dave from bexhilli i am very well traveled.You ever been out of Bexhill.?
I'm well travelled, I like to travel, anyone else like to travel, who wants to compare passport stampings?
typical person from that part of thew country absolutely no idea about this part of england this is the place to be or should i put my flat cap on and take my greyhound for a walk then ill watch a player who moved to this poverty stricken hellhole get promoted or could its its because we have ambition good luck in the championship next year and the year after if your lucky
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: Sorry to see Ash go he is a 100% trier and has scored some cracking goals.But why would you swop living in the south for a place with a lot of poverty,at least he can buy a house cash for about £20,000.It has the lowest house prices in England.Good Luck Ash.[/p][/quote]Another parochial dipstick who's never been further north than Burgess Hill[/p][/quote]So wrong dave from bexhilli i am very well traveled.You ever been out of Bexhill.?[/p][/quote]I'm well travelled, I like to travel, anyone else like to travel, who wants to compare passport stampings?[/p][/quote]typical person from that part of thew country absolutely no idea about this part of england this is the place to be or should i put my flat cap on and take my greyhound for a walk then ill watch a player who moved to this poverty stricken hellhole get promoted or could its its because we have ambition good luck in the championship next year and the year after if your lucky estherbill7
  • Score: -1

7:32pm Fri 10 Jan 14

ringtone says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
Sorry to see Ash go he is a 100% trier and has scored some cracking goals.But why would you swop living in the south for a place with a lot of poverty,at least he can buy a house cash for about £20,000.It has the lowest house prices in England.Good Luck Ash.
Another parochial dipstick who's never been further north than Burgess Hill
So wrong dave from bexhilli i am very well traveled.You ever been out of Bexhill.?
I'm well travelled, I like to travel, anyone else like to travel, who wants to compare passport stampings?
I will show you mine if you show me yours?

Great to have you back Vegas.

Now we can look forward to some much needed quality content on this site.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: Sorry to see Ash go he is a 100% trier and has scored some cracking goals.But why would you swop living in the south for a place with a lot of poverty,at least he can buy a house cash for about £20,000.It has the lowest house prices in England.Good Luck Ash.[/p][/quote]Another parochial dipstick who's never been further north than Burgess Hill[/p][/quote]So wrong dave from bexhilli i am very well traveled.You ever been out of Bexhill.?[/p][/quote]I'm well travelled, I like to travel, anyone else like to travel, who wants to compare passport stampings?[/p][/quote]I will show you mine if you show me yours? Great to have you back Vegas. Now we can look forward to some much needed quality content on this site. ringtone
  • Score: 0

7:38pm Fri 10 Jan 14

albion64 says...

RIGHT
RIGHT albion64
  • Score: -1

7:44pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Falmer Wizard says...

Barnes was a good Division 1 player but needed too many chances to get the ball in the net in the Championship,however wish him well at his new club.
Barnes was a good Division 1 player but needed too many chances to get the ball in the net in the Championship,however wish him well at his new club. Falmer Wizard
  • Score: 0

12:13am Sat 11 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

estherbill7 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
Sorry to see Ash go he is a 100% trier and has scored some cracking goals.But why would you swop living in the south for a place with a lot of poverty,at least he can buy a house cash for about £20,000.It has the lowest house prices in England.Good Luck Ash.
Another parochial dipstick who's never been further north than Burgess Hill
So wrong dave from bexhilli i am very well traveled.You ever been out of Bexhill.?
I'm well travelled, I like to travel, anyone else like to travel, who wants to compare passport stampings?
typical person from that part of thew country absolutely no idea about this part of england this is the place to be or should i put my flat cap on and take my greyhound for a walk then ill watch a player who moved to this poverty stricken hellhole get promoted or could its its because we have ambition good luck in the championship next year and the year after if your lucky
Do you have punctuation up north?
[quote][p][bold]estherbill7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: Sorry to see Ash go he is a 100% trier and has scored some cracking goals.But why would you swop living in the south for a place with a lot of poverty,at least he can buy a house cash for about £20,000.It has the lowest house prices in England.Good Luck Ash.[/p][/quote]Another parochial dipstick who's never been further north than Burgess Hill[/p][/quote]So wrong dave from bexhilli i am very well traveled.You ever been out of Bexhill.?[/p][/quote]I'm well travelled, I like to travel, anyone else like to travel, who wants to compare passport stampings?[/p][/quote]typical person from that part of thew country absolutely no idea about this part of england this is the place to be or should i put my flat cap on and take my greyhound for a walk then ill watch a player who moved to this poverty stricken hellhole get promoted or could its its because we have ambition good luck in the championship next year and the year after if your lucky[/p][/quote]Do you have punctuation up north? Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 0

11:07am Sat 11 Jan 14

al streete says...

Sad al the stupid comments about the poverty i n Burnley from those cushioned in South Est. By the way good luck Ash. Cornish Seagull
Sad al the stupid comments about the poverty i n Burnley from those cushioned in South Est. By the way good luck Ash. Cornish Seagull al streete
  • Score: -1

11:30am Sat 11 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

al streete wrote:
Sad al the stupid comments about the poverty i n Burnley from those cushioned in South Est. By the way good luck Ash. Cornish Seagull
Cushioned in the south east, ha! Most expensive region to live in the country.
[quote][p][bold]al streete[/bold] wrote: Sad al the stupid comments about the poverty i n Burnley from those cushioned in South Est. By the way good luck Ash. Cornish Seagull[/p][/quote]Cushioned in the south east, ha! Most expensive region to live in the country. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 0

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