Barnes relishing Burnley move

The Argus: Ashley Barnes (right) in action for Albion against Burnley. Now he is looking forward to playing for them against the Seagulls. Ashley Barnes (right) in action for Albion against Burnley. Now he is looking forward to playing for them against the Seagulls.

Ashley Barnes has labelled leaving Albion for Burnley a "fantastic opportunity".

And he already has his sights set on playing against the Seagulls later this month.

Burnley currently occupy the second automatic promotion place in the Championship.

Barnes, who has signed a three-and-a-half year deal at Turf Moor, said: "I am sorry to leave Brighton, but it was a fantastic opportunity with Burnley and one which I really had to take. I hope fans understand that football can be like that.

"Now I am now looking forward to the next chapter of my career at a new club – but I will take away some brilliant memories from time with the Albion.

"The fans have been fantastic to me, and the last four years have been brilliant. It’s been a rollercoaster, but with a lot more ups than downs – both for the club and me personally."

Barnes is looking forward to a swift reunion with his former colleagues when Albion travel to Burnley on January 28.

He said: "As a professional I will be looking to do my best for Burnley, I'm sure Albion fans will understand that sentiment will be put to one side for that match. Maybe a few will give me a bit of banter from the stands – but I hope most will remember the good things I did for the club."

Barnes begins his Burnley career on the bench at Yeovil tomorrow.

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6:28pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Sounds fair enough: thanks to the old club, but looking forward to playing for the new club.
Sounds fair enough: thanks to the old club, but looking forward to playing for the new club. Ex-pat Arnie

6:38pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Neville says...

Yes all the best to Ashley,met him a few times and always has time for fans,I think he will do well for them and guess we might eventually meet them in the play offs.I think he will score a few goals as well as their system more suited to him than Brightons one man attack philosophy.
Yes all the best to Ashley,met him a few times and always has time for fans,I think he will do well for them and guess we might eventually meet them in the play offs.I think he will score a few goals as well as their system more suited to him than Brightons one man attack philosophy. Neville

6:41pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Hovite says...

Nicely put, he's done a great job for us and it is time for a new challenge.

Good luck to him.
Nicely put, he's done a great job for us and it is time for a new challenge. Good luck to him. Hovite

6:42pm Fri 10 Jan 14

ringtone says...

Does not say much for our club.

Looks like Tony has thrown the promotion towel in already, sad.
Does not say much for our club. Looks like Tony has thrown the promotion towel in already, sad. ringtone

6:43pm Fri 10 Jan 14

daughter-of-manag says...

I think that we will regret selling him to a promotion rival - but it's a great opportunity for AB and a nice long contract. Hope that we spend a bit of dosh on improving the squad. We still have a great chance of reaching the play offs - so come on you Seagulls!
I think that we will regret selling him to a promotion rival - but it's a great opportunity for AB and a nice long contract. Hope that we spend a bit of dosh on improving the squad. We still have a great chance of reaching the play offs - so come on you Seagulls! daughter-of-manag

6:44pm Fri 10 Jan 14

sussexram40 says...

You can't blame the man. Theres a good chance he will be a Premier League player next year, which he will never be as long as the Albion continue with their Spanish obsession. West Brom have fallen into the same trap today.
You can't blame the man. Theres a good chance he will be a Premier League player next year, which he will never be as long as the Albion continue with their Spanish obsession. West Brom have fallen into the same trap today. sussexram40

6:50pm Fri 10 Jan 14

ringtone says...

The rats are fleeing the sinking ship.

Tell Oscar to turn the lights off when he leaves.
The rats are fleeing the sinking ship. Tell Oscar to turn the lights off when he leaves. ringtone

7:12pm Fri 10 Jan 14

russellsnr2 says...

OK as with Mr Poyet AB has left the club with good wishes from club and fans alike. Did a great job for us IMO never stopped running covered a lot of ground in a game scored a few goals and prevented some but he has gone so please Argus don't do an ASHGATE as you did a GUSGATE!!!!!
OK as with Mr Poyet AB has left the club with good wishes from club and fans alike. Did a great job for us IMO never stopped running covered a lot of ground in a game scored a few goals and prevented some but he has gone so please Argus don't do an ASHGATE as you did a GUSGATE!!!!! russellsnr2

7:13pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Ringmer Rich says...

Good luck Ash, going to a team with a very good chance of making the prem this season is just too good an opportunity to turn down.
Good luck Ash, going to a team with a very good chance of making the prem this season is just too good an opportunity to turn down. Ringmer Rich

7:24pm Fri 10 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

Looking forward to seeing a few signings for ourself now....

I do wonder how these clubs with lower match day attendances are buying players and spending money.
I know your Forests, QPR's, Readings and Leicester don't seem to be too worried by FFP but I do wonder where Burnley get a million from, how Leeds can get in 2 premiership wingers + look at Barnes and how Huddersfield can afford a record buy with these new rules being implemented.

I guess time will tell.

Uta
Looking forward to seeing a few signings for ourself now.... I do wonder how these clubs with lower match day attendances are buying players and spending money. I know your Forests, QPR's, Readings and Leicester don't seem to be too worried by FFP but I do wonder where Burnley get a million from, how Leeds can get in 2 premiership wingers + look at Barnes and how Huddersfield can afford a record buy with these new rules being implemented. I guess time will tell. Uta SMF20

7:28pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Baldseagull says...

I think he will do well there, this deal will look like a steal for Burnley eventually.
I think he will do well there, this deal will look like a steal for Burnley eventually. Baldseagull

7:31pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Alfie T says...

Baldseagull wrote:
I think he will do well there, this deal will look like a steal for Burnley eventually.
Doubt that.
[quote][p][bold]Baldseagull[/bold] wrote: I think he will do well there, this deal will look like a steal for Burnley eventually.[/p][/quote]Doubt that. Alfie T

7:35pm Fri 10 Jan 14

albion64 says...

ringtone wrote:
Does not say much for our club.

Looks like Tony has thrown the promotion towel in already, sad.
Tony Pulis?
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: Does not say much for our club. Looks like Tony has thrown the promotion towel in already, sad.[/p][/quote]Tony Pulis? albion64

7:39pm Fri 10 Jan 14

mark by the sea says...

Barnes has done the best for his family, of the £750k it's likely he received more than the customary 10% .... But that's ok as he could have stayed and walked into a nice signing fee for Burnley... In that I totally respect him.
With regards to Burnley , Sam vokes just signed a new three year deal with 18 months left on his existing one... Keep good players on lengthy deals.
Interesting tomo, brum are in good form.....
Barnes has done the best for his family, of the £750k it's likely he received more than the customary 10% .... But that's ok as he could have stayed and walked into a nice signing fee for Burnley... In that I totally respect him. With regards to Burnley , Sam vokes just signed a new three year deal with 18 months left on his existing one... Keep good players on lengthy deals. Interesting tomo, brum are in good form..... mark by the sea

7:45pm Fri 10 Jan 14

mark by the sea says...

SMF20 wrote:
Looking forward to seeing a few signings for ourself now....

I do wonder how these clubs with lower match day attendances are buying players and spending money.
I know your Forests, QPR's, Readings and Leicester don't seem to be too worried by FFP but I do wonder where Burnley get a million from, how Leeds can get in 2 premiership wingers + look at Barnes and how Huddersfield can afford a record buy with these new rules being implemented.

I guess time will tell.

Uta
Maybe building a promotion fund is the answer? Keep your powder dry , wait for fair play rules to kick in and hopefully punish those clubs who seem to ignore the rules....
Let's suppose we can build a fund, this seasons relegation clubs from the premier are not in the money in the way QPR have funds, we then bring in players really capable of promotion... We have the benefit of signing players , while clubs have penalties for over spending!
I do hope so, if we can't compete when we have the largest gate receipts in the championship then how are we ever getting promotion?
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Looking forward to seeing a few signings for ourself now.... I do wonder how these clubs with lower match day attendances are buying players and spending money. I know your Forests, QPR's, Readings and Leicester don't seem to be too worried by FFP but I do wonder where Burnley get a million from, how Leeds can get in 2 premiership wingers + look at Barnes and how Huddersfield can afford a record buy with these new rules being implemented. I guess time will tell. Uta[/p][/quote]Maybe building a promotion fund is the answer? Keep your powder dry , wait for fair play rules to kick in and hopefully punish those clubs who seem to ignore the rules.... Let's suppose we can build a fund, this seasons relegation clubs from the premier are not in the money in the way QPR have funds, we then bring in players really capable of promotion... We have the benefit of signing players , while clubs have penalties for over spending! I do hope so, if we can't compete when we have the largest gate receipts in the championship then how are we ever getting promotion? mark by the sea

7:47pm Fri 10 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Ok so Ashly Barnes has now gone, good luck to him, hope he enjoys his football with Burnley, now let's move back to the transfer that really counts, that of Liam Bridcutt.

Why are we not hearing of a new move by Sunderland, they made an offer and it was turned down. Bridders asked for a transfer, he saw his request denied. Is that it, one club made one bid and now nothing?

We as Brighton fans, along with Poyet, hold Bridcutt in high regard, it would appear that other prem div clubs don't, maybe even the suits at Sunderland are not as convinced as Poyet is.

The club are keeping quiet about this deal, I get that, but is this a case of, 'keeping quiet,' or is there simply nothing to tell. If Bridders is considered a key player in Sunderland's survival plan, would not Westham, Cardiff, Fulham, Palace or Norwich not see some value in signing him, they are all in fear of relegation. Other than having played under Poyet at Brighton, what is it that he can bring to Sunderland that he could also take to one of the clubs I have listed. Could it be that these clubs just don't rate him at prem div level, are we Brighton fans and Poyet all looking thru rose tinted glasses and the other prem managers are not.
Ok so Ashly Barnes has now gone, good luck to him, hope he enjoys his football with Burnley, now let's move back to the transfer that really counts, that of Liam Bridcutt. Why are we not hearing of a new move by Sunderland, they made an offer and it was turned down. Bridders asked for a transfer, he saw his request denied. Is that it, one club made one bid and now nothing? We as Brighton fans, along with Poyet, hold Bridcutt in high regard, it would appear that other prem div clubs don't, maybe even the suits at Sunderland are not as convinced as Poyet is. The club are keeping quiet about this deal, I get that, but is this a case of, 'keeping quiet,' or is there simply nothing to tell. If Bridders is considered a key player in Sunderland's survival plan, would not Westham, Cardiff, Fulham, Palace or Norwich not see some value in signing him, they are all in fear of relegation. Other than having played under Poyet at Brighton, what is it that he can bring to Sunderland that he could also take to one of the clubs I have listed. Could it be that these clubs just don't rate him at prem div level, are we Brighton fans and Poyet all looking thru rose tinted glasses and the other prem managers are not. VegasSeagull

7:49pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Lord Hamilton says...

Burnley will **** it up. They're not a premiership club. See you next season AB.
Burnley will **** it up. They're not a premiership club. See you next season AB. Lord Hamilton

7:54pm Fri 10 Jan 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Ok so Ashly Barnes has now gone, good luck to him, hope he enjoys his football with Burnley, now let's move back to the transfer that really counts, that of Liam Bridcutt.

Why are we not hearing of a new move by Sunderland, they made an offer and it was turned down. Bridders asked for a transfer, he saw his request denied. Is that it, one club made one bid and now nothing?

We as Brighton fans, along with Poyet, hold Bridcutt in high regard, it would appear that other prem div clubs don't, maybe even the suits at Sunderland are not as convinced as Poyet is.

The club are keeping quiet about this deal, I get that, but is this a case of, 'keeping quiet,' or is there simply nothing to tell. If Bridders is considered a key player in Sunderland's survival plan, would not Westham, Cardiff, Fulham, Palace or Norwich not see some value in signing him, they are all in fear of relegation. Other than having played under Poyet at Brighton, what is it that he can bring to Sunderland that he could also take to one of the clubs I have listed. Could it be that these clubs just don't rate him at prem div level, are we Brighton fans and Poyet all looking thru rose tinted glasses and the other prem managers are not.
Its ml not if other clubs rate him, but if he suits the clubs style, bridcutt would never suit stoke, west ham, .. More suited to Swansea, and the top 8 clubs, but in truth he will have been watched by a dozen premiership clubs, yes he does marvelous stuff here, but like Elliot bennet may struggle at the next hurdle...in reality there are two divisions in the upper league, the top 6-8 clubs who you could write a list of for next year. Then you have the rest, saints villa, etc either have a good season or struggle year in year out! Sunderland a clear example of staying up!
The championship league is mirrored pretty much by spending power, with exception of Burnley the league is that of spending power.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Ok so Ashly Barnes has now gone, good luck to him, hope he enjoys his football with Burnley, now let's move back to the transfer that really counts, that of Liam Bridcutt. Why are we not hearing of a new move by Sunderland, they made an offer and it was turned down. Bridders asked for a transfer, he saw his request denied. Is that it, one club made one bid and now nothing? We as Brighton fans, along with Poyet, hold Bridcutt in high regard, it would appear that other prem div clubs don't, maybe even the suits at Sunderland are not as convinced as Poyet is. The club are keeping quiet about this deal, I get that, but is this a case of, 'keeping quiet,' or is there simply nothing to tell. If Bridders is considered a key player in Sunderland's survival plan, would not Westham, Cardiff, Fulham, Palace or Norwich not see some value in signing him, they are all in fear of relegation. Other than having played under Poyet at Brighton, what is it that he can bring to Sunderland that he could also take to one of the clubs I have listed. Could it be that these clubs just don't rate him at prem div level, are we Brighton fans and Poyet all looking thru rose tinted glasses and the other prem managers are not.[/p][/quote]Its ml not if other clubs rate him, but if he suits the clubs style, bridcutt would never suit stoke, west ham, .. More suited to Swansea, and the top 8 clubs, but in truth he will have been watched by a dozen premiership clubs, yes he does marvelous stuff here, but like Elliot bennet may struggle at the next hurdle...in reality there are two divisions in the upper league, the top 6-8 clubs who you could write a list of for next year. Then you have the rest, saints villa, etc either have a good season or struggle year in year out! Sunderland a clear example of staying up! The championship league is mirrored pretty much by spending power, with exception of Burnley the league is that of spending power. mark by the sea

7:55pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Claude Back says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Ok so Ashly Barnes has now gone, good luck to him, hope he enjoys his football with Burnley, now let's move back to the transfer that really counts, that of Liam Bridcutt.

Why are we not hearing of a new move by Sunderland, they made an offer and it was turned down. Bridders asked for a transfer, he saw his request denied. Is that it, one club made one bid and now nothing?

We as Brighton fans, along with Poyet, hold Bridcutt in high regard, it would appear that other prem div clubs don't, maybe even the suits at Sunderland are not as convinced as Poyet is.

The club are keeping quiet about this deal, I get that, but is this a case of, 'keeping quiet,' or is there simply nothing to tell. If Bridders is considered a key player in Sunderland's survival plan, would not Westham, Cardiff, Fulham, Palace or Norwich not see some value in signing him, they are all in fear of relegation. Other than having played under Poyet at Brighton, what is it that he can bring to Sunderland that he could also take to one of the clubs I have listed. Could it be that these clubs just don't rate him at prem div level, are we Brighton fans and Poyet all looking thru rose tinted glasses and the other prem managers are not.
The answer is that those clubs already have good defensive mid-fielders.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Ok so Ashly Barnes has now gone, good luck to him, hope he enjoys his football with Burnley, now let's move back to the transfer that really counts, that of Liam Bridcutt. Why are we not hearing of a new move by Sunderland, they made an offer and it was turned down. Bridders asked for a transfer, he saw his request denied. Is that it, one club made one bid and now nothing? We as Brighton fans, along with Poyet, hold Bridcutt in high regard, it would appear that other prem div clubs don't, maybe even the suits at Sunderland are not as convinced as Poyet is. The club are keeping quiet about this deal, I get that, but is this a case of, 'keeping quiet,' or is there simply nothing to tell. If Bridders is considered a key player in Sunderland's survival plan, would not Westham, Cardiff, Fulham, Palace or Norwich not see some value in signing him, they are all in fear of relegation. Other than having played under Poyet at Brighton, what is it that he can bring to Sunderland that he could also take to one of the clubs I have listed. Could it be that these clubs just don't rate him at prem div level, are we Brighton fans and Poyet all looking thru rose tinted glasses and the other prem managers are not.[/p][/quote]The answer is that those clubs already have good defensive mid-fielders. Claude Back

7:55pm Fri 10 Jan 14

wiseman of hove says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Ok so Ashly Barnes has now gone, good luck to him, hope he enjoys his football with Burnley, now let's move back to the transfer that really counts, that of Liam Bridcutt.

Why are we not hearing of a new move by Sunderland, they made an offer and it was turned down. Bridders asked for a transfer, he saw his request denied. Is that it, one club made one bid and now nothing?

We as Brighton fans, along with Poyet, hold Bridcutt in high regard, it would appear that other prem div clubs don't, maybe even the suits at Sunderland are not as convinced as Poyet is.

The club are keeping quiet about this deal, I get that, but is this a case of, 'keeping quiet,' or is there simply nothing to tell. If Bridders is considered a key player in Sunderland's survival plan, would not Westham, Cardiff, Fulham, Palace or Norwich not see some value in signing him, they are all in fear of relegation. Other than having played under Poyet at Brighton, what is it that he can bring to Sunderland that he could also take to one of the clubs I have listed. Could it be that these clubs just don't rate him at prem div level, are we Brighton fans and Poyet all looking thru rose tinted glasses and the other prem managers are not.
It's a fair point Vegas. Bridcutt has not stood out in the games he has played since returning from a long layoff. Our former manager may not have been deterred from bidding, albeit derisory, but other premiership managers may have cooled any erstwhile interest.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Ok so Ashly Barnes has now gone, good luck to him, hope he enjoys his football with Burnley, now let's move back to the transfer that really counts, that of Liam Bridcutt. Why are we not hearing of a new move by Sunderland, they made an offer and it was turned down. Bridders asked for a transfer, he saw his request denied. Is that it, one club made one bid and now nothing? We as Brighton fans, along with Poyet, hold Bridcutt in high regard, it would appear that other prem div clubs don't, maybe even the suits at Sunderland are not as convinced as Poyet is. The club are keeping quiet about this deal, I get that, but is this a case of, 'keeping quiet,' or is there simply nothing to tell. If Bridders is considered a key player in Sunderland's survival plan, would not Westham, Cardiff, Fulham, Palace or Norwich not see some value in signing him, they are all in fear of relegation. Other than having played under Poyet at Brighton, what is it that he can bring to Sunderland that he could also take to one of the clubs I have listed. Could it be that these clubs just don't rate him at prem div level, are we Brighton fans and Poyet all looking thru rose tinted glasses and the other prem managers are not.[/p][/quote]It's a fair point Vegas. Bridcutt has not stood out in the games he has played since returning from a long layoff. Our former manager may not have been deterred from bidding, albeit derisory, but other premiership managers may have cooled any erstwhile interest. wiseman of hove

8:06pm Fri 10 Jan 14

and another thing.... says...

What's done is done.... and we need to look forward.
There are players out there who would love to join our club and can take us to the premiership; whether it be this season or next we a heading in that direction. I am completely indifferent as to whether or not Burnley and/or Sunderland are there next year. I wish Barnes all the best. We got several years good service and a generous fee for him.
I trust the Albion management; we have done really well with an injury ravaged squad and I believe we will do even better as the squad is strengthened by returners and new recruits.
What's done is done.... and we need to look forward. There are players out there who would love to join our club and can take us to the premiership; whether it be this season or next we a heading in that direction. I am completely indifferent as to whether or not Burnley and/or Sunderland are there next year. I wish Barnes all the best. We got several years good service and a generous fee for him. I trust the Albion management; we have done really well with an injury ravaged squad and I believe we will do even better as the squad is strengthened by returners and new recruits. and another thing....

8:10pm Fri 10 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

wiseman of hove wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Ok so Ashly Barnes has now gone, good luck to him, hope he enjoys his football with Burnley, now let's move back to the transfer that really counts, that of Liam Bridcutt.

Why are we not hearing of a new move by Sunderland, they made an offer and it was turned down. Bridders asked for a transfer, he saw his request denied. Is that it, one club made one bid and now nothing?

We as Brighton fans, along with Poyet, hold Bridcutt in high regard, it would appear that other prem div clubs don't, maybe even the suits at Sunderland are not as convinced as Poyet is.

The club are keeping quiet about this deal, I get that, but is this a case of, 'keeping quiet,' or is there simply nothing to tell. If Bridders is considered a key player in Sunderland's survival plan, would not Westham, Cardiff, Fulham, Palace or Norwich not see some value in signing him, they are all in fear of relegation. Other than having played under Poyet at Brighton, what is it that he can bring to Sunderland that he could also take to one of the clubs I have listed. Could it be that these clubs just don't rate him at prem div level, are we Brighton fans and Poyet all looking thru rose tinted glasses and the other prem managers are not.
It's a fair point Vegas. Bridcutt has not stood out in the games he has played since returning from a long layoff. Our former manager may not have been deterred from bidding, albeit derisory, but other premiership managers may have cooled any erstwhile interest.
I mentioned something related the other day wiseman.

Bridcutt is a fantastic performer is his central midfield holding role... Outside of this role however, he is average as we have seen.. I don't buy into his performances dropping off due to coming back from injury.
No... For me, the reason Liam isn't as effective is due to OG wanting a little more than someone just sitting in the hole.

I also think that this is why Liam is pushing hard for the deal away NOW... IMHO his stock has never been as high as it was pre injury.. I feel however that with our current setup, this stock will start to slide and thus he might not get his dream move.

I honestly feel that Liam is Premiership quality but only in a team where he is allowed to sit in his holding role.
I actually hope that if we aren't going to play him there then we may as well sell on now... For a fair price of course.

My preference? Keep him but let's revert him back to the position he excels in.

Tough game tomorrow. I don't think Birmingham have lost in 10 games....
Really looking forward to it though.

Uta
[quote][p][bold]wiseman of hove[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Ok so Ashly Barnes has now gone, good luck to him, hope he enjoys his football with Burnley, now let's move back to the transfer that really counts, that of Liam Bridcutt. Why are we not hearing of a new move by Sunderland, they made an offer and it was turned down. Bridders asked for a transfer, he saw his request denied. Is that it, one club made one bid and now nothing? We as Brighton fans, along with Poyet, hold Bridcutt in high regard, it would appear that other prem div clubs don't, maybe even the suits at Sunderland are not as convinced as Poyet is. The club are keeping quiet about this deal, I get that, but is this a case of, 'keeping quiet,' or is there simply nothing to tell. If Bridders is considered a key player in Sunderland's survival plan, would not Westham, Cardiff, Fulham, Palace or Norwich not see some value in signing him, they are all in fear of relegation. Other than having played under Poyet at Brighton, what is it that he can bring to Sunderland that he could also take to one of the clubs I have listed. Could it be that these clubs just don't rate him at prem div level, are we Brighton fans and Poyet all looking thru rose tinted glasses and the other prem managers are not.[/p][/quote]It's a fair point Vegas. Bridcutt has not stood out in the games he has played since returning from a long layoff. Our former manager may not have been deterred from bidding, albeit derisory, but other premiership managers may have cooled any erstwhile interest.[/p][/quote]I mentioned something related the other day wiseman. Bridcutt is a fantastic performer is his central midfield holding role... Outside of this role however, he is average as we have seen.. I don't buy into his performances dropping off due to coming back from injury. No... For me, the reason Liam isn't as effective is due to OG wanting a little more than someone just sitting in the hole. I also think that this is why Liam is pushing hard for the deal away NOW... IMHO his stock has never been as high as it was pre injury.. I feel however that with our current setup, this stock will start to slide and thus he might not get his dream move. I honestly feel that Liam is Premiership quality but only in a team where he is allowed to sit in his holding role. I actually hope that if we aren't going to play him there then we may as well sell on now... For a fair price of course. My preference? Keep him but let's revert him back to the position he excels in. Tough game tomorrow. I don't think Birmingham have lost in 10 games.... Really looking forward to it though. Uta SMF20

8:10pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Clean Sheet says...

Well, an interesting week or so on the transfer front. A striker out, and one in, net £750k better off. LB bid, transfer request, refusal, then nothing. More to come here I guess. A quick look at a Brazilian, and then apparently decided against. Ince on a longer term contract. For me, in all a week where we are overal in credit in the transfer front. Let's see how the next couple of weeks pan out.
Well, an interesting week or so on the transfer front. A striker out, and one in, net £750k better off. LB bid, transfer request, refusal, then nothing. More to come here I guess. A quick look at a Brazilian, and then apparently decided against. Ince on a longer term contract. For me, in all a week where we are overal in credit in the transfer front. Let's see how the next couple of weeks pan out. Clean Sheet

8:11pm Fri 10 Jan 14

ringtone says...

albion64 wrote:
ringtone wrote:
Does not say much for our club.

Looks like Tony has thrown the promotion towel in already, sad.
Tony Pulis?
You know you should not respond to me, you dont want to upset the resident misery, lightenup.

He`s had a few bad days, he got thrown out of the pub, it was happy hour!
[quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: Does not say much for our club. Looks like Tony has thrown the promotion towel in already, sad.[/p][/quote]Tony Pulis?[/p][/quote]You know you should not respond to me, you dont want to upset the resident misery, lightenup. He`s had a few bad days, he got thrown out of the pub, it was happy hour! ringtone

8:16pm Fri 10 Jan 14

wiseman of hove says...

SMF20 wrote:
wiseman of hove wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Ok so Ashly Barnes has now gone, good luck to him, hope he enjoys his football with Burnley, now let's move back to the transfer that really counts, that of Liam Bridcutt.

Why are we not hearing of a new move by Sunderland, they made an offer and it was turned down. Bridders asked for a transfer, he saw his request denied. Is that it, one club made one bid and now nothing?

We as Brighton fans, along with Poyet, hold Bridcutt in high regard, it would appear that other prem div clubs don't, maybe even the suits at Sunderland are not as convinced as Poyet is.

The club are keeping quiet about this deal, I get that, but is this a case of, 'keeping quiet,' or is there simply nothing to tell. If Bridders is considered a key player in Sunderland's survival plan, would not Westham, Cardiff, Fulham, Palace or Norwich not see some value in signing him, they are all in fear of relegation. Other than having played under Poyet at Brighton, what is it that he can bring to Sunderland that he could also take to one of the clubs I have listed. Could it be that these clubs just don't rate him at prem div level, are we Brighton fans and Poyet all looking thru rose tinted glasses and the other prem managers are not.
It's a fair point Vegas. Bridcutt has not stood out in the games he has played since returning from a long layoff. Our former manager may not have been deterred from bidding, albeit derisory, but other premiership managers may have cooled any erstwhile interest.
I mentioned something related the other day wiseman.

Bridcutt is a fantastic performer is his central midfield holding role... Outside of this role however, he is average as we have seen.. I don't buy into his performances dropping off due to coming back from injury.
No... For me, the reason Liam isn't as effective is due to OG wanting a little more than someone just sitting in the hole.

I also think that this is why Liam is pushing hard for the deal away NOW... IMHO his stock has never been as high as it was pre injury.. I feel however that with our current setup, this stock will start to slide and thus he might not get his dream move.

I honestly feel that Liam is Premiership quality but only in a team where he is allowed to sit in his holding role.
I actually hope that if we aren't going to play him there then we may as well sell on now... For a fair price of course.

My preference? Keep him but let's revert him back to the position he excels in.

Tough game tomorrow. I don't think Birmingham have lost in 10 games....
Really looking forward to it though.

Uta
My hunch tomorrow is that Bridcutt will be on the bench with a definite intro at some point to receive an overwhelming reception.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wiseman of hove[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Ok so Ashly Barnes has now gone, good luck to him, hope he enjoys his football with Burnley, now let's move back to the transfer that really counts, that of Liam Bridcutt. Why are we not hearing of a new move by Sunderland, they made an offer and it was turned down. Bridders asked for a transfer, he saw his request denied. Is that it, one club made one bid and now nothing? We as Brighton fans, along with Poyet, hold Bridcutt in high regard, it would appear that other prem div clubs don't, maybe even the suits at Sunderland are not as convinced as Poyet is. The club are keeping quiet about this deal, I get that, but is this a case of, 'keeping quiet,' or is there simply nothing to tell. If Bridders is considered a key player in Sunderland's survival plan, would not Westham, Cardiff, Fulham, Palace or Norwich not see some value in signing him, they are all in fear of relegation. Other than having played under Poyet at Brighton, what is it that he can bring to Sunderland that he could also take to one of the clubs I have listed. Could it be that these clubs just don't rate him at prem div level, are we Brighton fans and Poyet all looking thru rose tinted glasses and the other prem managers are not.[/p][/quote]It's a fair point Vegas. Bridcutt has not stood out in the games he has played since returning from a long layoff. Our former manager may not have been deterred from bidding, albeit derisory, but other premiership managers may have cooled any erstwhile interest.[/p][/quote]I mentioned something related the other day wiseman. Bridcutt is a fantastic performer is his central midfield holding role... Outside of this role however, he is average as we have seen.. I don't buy into his performances dropping off due to coming back from injury. No... For me, the reason Liam isn't as effective is due to OG wanting a little more than someone just sitting in the hole. I also think that this is why Liam is pushing hard for the deal away NOW... IMHO his stock has never been as high as it was pre injury.. I feel however that with our current setup, this stock will start to slide and thus he might not get his dream move. I honestly feel that Liam is Premiership quality but only in a team where he is allowed to sit in his holding role. I actually hope that if we aren't going to play him there then we may as well sell on now... For a fair price of course. My preference? Keep him but let's revert him back to the position he excels in. Tough game tomorrow. I don't think Birmingham have lost in 10 games.... Really looking forward to it though. Uta[/p][/quote]My hunch tomorrow is that Bridcutt will be on the bench with a definite intro at some point to receive an overwhelming reception. wiseman of hove

8:27pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

russellsnr2 wrote:
OK as with Mr Poyet AB has left the club with good wishes from club and fans alike. Did a great job for us IMO never stopped running covered a lot of ground in a game scored a few goals and prevented some but he has gone so please Argus don't do an ASHGATE as you did a GUSGATE!!!!!
I don't remember Poyet leaving with the best wishes of the club OR the fans! The club sacked him and the fans to a large degree turned on him.
[quote][p][bold]russellsnr2[/bold] wrote: OK as with Mr Poyet AB has left the club with good wishes from club and fans alike. Did a great job for us IMO never stopped running covered a lot of ground in a game scored a few goals and prevented some but he has gone so please Argus don't do an ASHGATE as you did a GUSGATE!!!!![/p][/quote]I don't remember Poyet leaving with the best wishes of the club OR the fans! The club sacked him and the fans to a large degree turned on him. Ex-pat Arnie

8:30pm Fri 10 Jan 14

mark by the sea says...

Clean Sheet wrote:
Well, an interesting week or so on the transfer front. A striker out, and one in, net £750k better off. LB bid, transfer request, refusal, then nothing. More to come here I guess. A quick look at a Brazilian, and then apparently decided against. Ince on a longer term contract. For me, in all a week where we are overal in credit in the transfer front. Let's see how the next couple of weeks pan out.
Problem is when the player is nearly out of contract, the player wants a big percentage than the 10% .... It's now about who we sign, it would appear Conway is staying in Cardiff.. We are short in several positions...,
Buckley should be on the mend in next week or so.. Again that's gone very quiet!
[quote][p][bold]Clean Sheet[/bold] wrote: Well, an interesting week or so on the transfer front. A striker out, and one in, net £750k better off. LB bid, transfer request, refusal, then nothing. More to come here I guess. A quick look at a Brazilian, and then apparently decided against. Ince on a longer term contract. For me, in all a week where we are overal in credit in the transfer front. Let's see how the next couple of weeks pan out.[/p][/quote]Problem is when the player is nearly out of contract, the player wants a big percentage than the 10% .... It's now about who we sign, it would appear Conway is staying in Cardiff.. We are short in several positions..., Buckley should be on the mend in next week or so.. Again that's gone very quiet! mark by the sea

8:39pm Fri 10 Jan 14

ringtone says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
russellsnr2 wrote:
OK as with Mr Poyet AB has left the club with good wishes from club and fans alike. Did a great job for us IMO never stopped running covered a lot of ground in a game scored a few goals and prevented some but he has gone so please Argus don't do an ASHGATE as you did a GUSGATE!!!!!
I don't remember Poyet leaving with the best wishes of the club OR the fans! The club sacked him and the fans to a large degree turned on him.
The fickle ones did.

And the so called fans that dont attend anymore,lol.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]russellsnr2[/bold] wrote: OK as with Mr Poyet AB has left the club with good wishes from club and fans alike. Did a great job for us IMO never stopped running covered a lot of ground in a game scored a few goals and prevented some but he has gone so please Argus don't do an ASHGATE as you did a GUSGATE!!!!![/p][/quote]I don't remember Poyet leaving with the best wishes of the club OR the fans! The club sacked him and the fans to a large degree turned on him.[/p][/quote]The fickle ones did. And the so called fans that dont attend anymore,lol. ringtone

8:45pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Clean Sheet says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Clean Sheet wrote:
Well, an interesting week or so on the transfer front. A striker out, and one in, net £750k better off. LB bid, transfer request, refusal, then nothing. More to come here I guess. A quick look at a Brazilian, and then apparently decided against. Ince on a longer term contract. For me, in all a week where we are overal in credit in the transfer front. Let's see how the next couple of weeks pan out.
Problem is when the player is nearly out of contract, the player wants a big percentage than the 10% .... It's now about who we sign, it would appear Conway is staying in Cardiff.. We are short in several positions...,
Buckley should be on the mend in next week or so.. Again that's gone very quiet!
Why would Conway want to stay at Cardiff? He is not in their squad is he? Would Albion want to sign permanently, given Cardiff don't think he is good enough for the PL? My guess is that we have put another loan offer on the table, and Cardiff and the player are seeing if anything better comes in?
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clean Sheet[/bold] wrote: Well, an interesting week or so on the transfer front. A striker out, and one in, net £750k better off. LB bid, transfer request, refusal, then nothing. More to come here I guess. A quick look at a Brazilian, and then apparently decided against. Ince on a longer term contract. For me, in all a week where we are overal in credit in the transfer front. Let's see how the next couple of weeks pan out.[/p][/quote]Problem is when the player is nearly out of contract, the player wants a big percentage than the 10% .... It's now about who we sign, it would appear Conway is staying in Cardiff.. We are short in several positions..., Buckley should be on the mend in next week or so.. Again that's gone very quiet![/p][/quote]Why would Conway want to stay at Cardiff? He is not in their squad is he? Would Albion want to sign permanently, given Cardiff don't think he is good enough for the PL? My guess is that we have put another loan offer on the table, and Cardiff and the player are seeing if anything better comes in? Clean Sheet

8:47pm Fri 10 Jan 14

impose our game gull says...

We'll be ahead of Burnley in the table by mid April!!

It's a good move for us

UTA!!
We'll be ahead of Burnley in the table by mid April!! It's a good move for us UTA!! impose our game gull

8:49pm Fri 10 Jan 14

mark by the sea says...

Clean Sheet wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Clean Sheet wrote:
Well, an interesting week or so on the transfer front. A striker out, and one in, net £750k better off. LB bid, transfer request, refusal, then nothing. More to come here I guess. A quick look at a Brazilian, and then apparently decided against. Ince on a longer term contract. For me, in all a week where we are overal in credit in the transfer front. Let's see how the next couple of weeks pan out.
Problem is when the player is nearly out of contract, the player wants a big percentage than the 10% .... It's now about who we sign, it would appear Conway is staying in Cardiff.. We are short in several positions...,
Buckley should be on the mend in next week or so.. Again that's gone very quiet!
Why would Conway want to stay at Cardiff? He is not in their squad is he? Would Albion want to sign permanently, given Cardiff don't think he is good enough for the PL? My guess is that we have put another loan offer on the table, and Cardiff and the player are seeing if anything better comes in?
Maybe the manager does not want to sell him!
[quote][p][bold]Clean Sheet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clean Sheet[/bold] wrote: Well, an interesting week or so on the transfer front. A striker out, and one in, net £750k better off. LB bid, transfer request, refusal, then nothing. More to come here I guess. A quick look at a Brazilian, and then apparently decided against. Ince on a longer term contract. For me, in all a week where we are overal in credit in the transfer front. Let's see how the next couple of weeks pan out.[/p][/quote]Problem is when the player is nearly out of contract, the player wants a big percentage than the 10% .... It's now about who we sign, it would appear Conway is staying in Cardiff.. We are short in several positions..., Buckley should be on the mend in next week or so.. Again that's gone very quiet![/p][/quote]Why would Conway want to stay at Cardiff? He is not in their squad is he? Would Albion want to sign permanently, given Cardiff don't think he is good enough for the PL? My guess is that we have put another loan offer on the table, and Cardiff and the player are seeing if anything better comes in?[/p][/quote]Maybe the manager does not want to sell him! mark by the sea

8:53pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Withdean-er says...

Lord Hamilton wrote:
Burnley will **** it up. They're not a premiership club. See you next season AB.
In other words you've given up on mega-income BHA failing to crack it yet again too. So you can't blame AB for gaining in the same division, a big pay rise and a lengthy contract, giving him and his family greater security; most of us would admit that we would do exactly the same in our chosen careers.

Anyway, good luck to AB. A good player for us, especially if you watched his development from the Withdean years. When he joined from Plymouth as a raw lower leagues forward, his career could have stagnated but he showed immediately that he was already better than most of the other strikers at the club (Sandaza, Baz, Wood (the patchy form player we saw) and Holroyd). With a lot of hard work, he developed into a sound Championship forward, who wasn't afraid or sniffy about being asked to help the midfield. He's deserved his new contract. Shame that TB and OG didn't think he warranted that level with us, so now over to them to see what quality striker and midfielder they buy (not borrow) this January to keep our season on track.
[quote][p][bold]Lord Hamilton[/bold] wrote: Burnley will **** it up. They're not a premiership club. See you next season AB.[/p][/quote]In other words you've given up on mega-income BHA failing to crack it yet again too. So you can't blame AB for gaining in the same division, a big pay rise and a lengthy contract, giving him and his family greater security; most of us would admit that we would do exactly the same in our chosen careers. Anyway, good luck to AB. A good player for us, especially if you watched his development from the Withdean years. When he joined from Plymouth as a raw lower leagues forward, his career could have stagnated but he showed immediately that he was already better than most of the other strikers at the club (Sandaza, Baz, Wood (the patchy form player we saw) and Holroyd). With a lot of hard work, he developed into a sound Championship forward, who wasn't afraid or sniffy about being asked to help the midfield. He's deserved his new contract. Shame that TB and OG didn't think he warranted that level with us, so now over to them to see what quality striker and midfielder they buy (not borrow) this January to keep our season on track. Withdean-er

9:09pm Fri 10 Jan 14

BHAFC_SHAUN says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Ok so Ashly Barnes has now gone, good luck to him, hope he enjoys his football with Burnley, now let's move back to the transfer that really counts, that of Liam Bridcutt.

Why are we not hearing of a new move by Sunderland, they made an offer and it was turned down. Bridders asked for a transfer, he saw his request denied. Is that it, one club made one bid and now nothing?

We as Brighton fans, along with Poyet, hold Bridcutt in high regard, it would appear that other prem div clubs don't, maybe even the suits at Sunderland are not as convinced as Poyet is.

The club are keeping quiet about this deal, I get that, but is this a case of, 'keeping quiet,' or is there simply nothing to tell. If Bridders is considered a key player in Sunderland's survival plan, would not Westham, Cardiff, Fulham, Palace or Norwich not see some value in signing him, they are all in fear of relegation. Other than having played under Poyet at Brighton, what is it that he can bring to Sunderland that he could also take to one of the clubs I have listed. Could it be that these clubs just don't rate him at prem div level, are we Brighton fans and Poyet all looking thru rose tinted glasses and the other prem managers are not.
I think you are owe looking the fact that bridcutt isn't proven at premiership level. Gus has an inside knowledge on him because he has watched him train, seen him play regularly and knows his personality. None of the other teams have this knowledge, and it's a big gamble to make when you are desperately trying to stay in the promised land.

You also have to take into account the fee. With Liam being your and British, his fee will be a lot more than that of a proven foreigner. There aren't many relegation-faced chairman who would be convinced to take a 'risky' gamble on Bridders.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Ok so Ashly Barnes has now gone, good luck to him, hope he enjoys his football with Burnley, now let's move back to the transfer that really counts, that of Liam Bridcutt. Why are we not hearing of a new move by Sunderland, they made an offer and it was turned down. Bridders asked for a transfer, he saw his request denied. Is that it, one club made one bid and now nothing? We as Brighton fans, along with Poyet, hold Bridcutt in high regard, it would appear that other prem div clubs don't, maybe even the suits at Sunderland are not as convinced as Poyet is. The club are keeping quiet about this deal, I get that, but is this a case of, 'keeping quiet,' or is there simply nothing to tell. If Bridders is considered a key player in Sunderland's survival plan, would not Westham, Cardiff, Fulham, Palace or Norwich not see some value in signing him, they are all in fear of relegation. Other than having played under Poyet at Brighton, what is it that he can bring to Sunderland that he could also take to one of the clubs I have listed. Could it be that these clubs just don't rate him at prem div level, are we Brighton fans and Poyet all looking thru rose tinted glasses and the other prem managers are not.[/p][/quote]I think you are owe looking the fact that bridcutt isn't proven at premiership level. Gus has an inside knowledge on him because he has watched him train, seen him play regularly and knows his personality. None of the other teams have this knowledge, and it's a big gamble to make when you are desperately trying to stay in the promised land. You also have to take into account the fee. With Liam being your and British, his fee will be a lot more than that of a proven foreigner. There aren't many relegation-faced chairman who would be convinced to take a 'risky' gamble on Bridders. BHAFC_SHAUN

9:17pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Gazza by the sea says...

Really struggling to understand the Conway clamour. Another wide left player? Really? How about a decent number 10? And no that's not a dig at Kemy but a plea for someone in the Vicente mould (a fit one preferably).....
Really struggling to understand the Conway clamour. Another wide left player? Really? How about a decent number 10? And no that's not a dig at Kemy but a plea for someone in the Vicente mould (a fit one preferably)..... Gazza by the sea

9:30pm Fri 10 Jan 14

mark by the sea says...

Gazza by the sea wrote:
Really struggling to understand the Conway clamour. Another wide left player? Really? How about a decent number 10? And no that's not a dig at Kemy but a plea for someone in the Vicente mould (a fit one preferably).....
Good crosser of a ball.... We have a selection who can't deliver a killer cross" so he looks great! Never went past a fullback in my opinion.
[quote][p][bold]Gazza by the sea[/bold] wrote: Really struggling to understand the Conway clamour. Another wide left player? Really? How about a decent number 10? And no that's not a dig at Kemy but a plea for someone in the Vicente mould (a fit one preferably).....[/p][/quote]Good crosser of a ball.... We have a selection who can't deliver a killer cross" so he looks great! Never went past a fullback in my opinion. mark by the sea

10:02pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Tony the tiger eastbourne says...

ringtone wrote:
The rats are fleeing the sinking ship.

Tell Oscar to turn the lights off when he leaves.
Its nice to see that you & Sussexram keep dishing the same old **** up. For F sake give It a rest
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: The rats are fleeing the sinking ship. Tell Oscar to turn the lights off when he leaves.[/p][/quote]Its nice to see that you & Sussexram keep dishing the same old **** up. For F sake give It a rest Tony the tiger eastbourne

5:29am Sat 11 Jan 14

championshipgull says...

Barnes is a good player at this level, he will work hard, he will pull defenders out of position, he will make a nuisance of himself, he will feed other forwards, but at this level you can’t be missing the chances he missed.
Barnes is a good player at this level, he will work hard, he will pull defenders out of position, he will make a nuisance of himself, he will feed other forwards, but at this level you can’t be missing the chances he missed. championshipgull

7:37am Sat 11 Jan 14

Withdean-er says...

championshipgull wrote:
Barnes is a good player at this level, he will work hard, he will pull defenders out of position, he will make a nuisance of himself, he will feed other forwards, but at this level you can’t be missing the chances he missed.
That's why they're Championship and not PL strikers. If Barnes had all these positives you mention (and I agree with you), and banged in most chances he would have been snapped up by a PL club a couple of years ago.

As for missing chances, but the following made a speciality of it but have still managed to making a lucrative living out of being Championship strikers - CMS (yes, at Championship level he fluffed tons of chances with his awful control), Vokes, Dobbie, Paynter - to name just 4.
[quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: Barnes is a good player at this level, he will work hard, he will pull defenders out of position, he will make a nuisance of himself, he will feed other forwards, but at this level you can’t be missing the chances he missed.[/p][/quote]That's why they're Championship and not PL strikers. If Barnes had all these positives you mention (and I agree with you), and banged in most chances he would have been snapped up by a PL club a couple of years ago. As for missing chances, but the following made a speciality of it but have still managed to making a lucrative living out of being Championship strikers - CMS (yes, at Championship level he fluffed tons of chances with his awful control), Vokes, Dobbie, Paynter - to name just 4. Withdean-er

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