Transfer window watch: Albion in hunt to grab Bournemouth ace

Lewis Grabban is a transfer target for Albion

Lewis Grabban is a transfer target for Albion

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Bournemouth's Lewis Grabban is on Albion's target list of strikers to replace Ashley Barnes.

It is unclear whether the Seagulls have so far tabled a bid for Grabban.

But an Argus source has confirmed their interest in the former Millwall and Crystal Palace forward, who was 26 yesterday.

The Argus also understands Grabban has a release clause in his recently signed contract allowing him to speak to another club if they offer £1.1 million.

That has alerted Albion and others to the availability of Grabban, who scored Bournemouth's penalty in their 1-1 draw at The Amex on New Year's Day and impressed as a lone front man.

His career has been rekindled by a move to the Cherries from Rotherham for £300,000 two summers ago.

The spot-kick at The Amex was one of ten goals in 24 games for Grabban this season.

The Argus has previously revealed Cardiff's Joe Mason is a contender to replace Barnes, who was sold to Burnley on Friday.

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4:04pm Mon 13 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

I'll take him... Thought he looked a handful on New Year's Day... Perhaps it might be wise to consult Upson on what he was like to play against?

Good to see we are trying to press on.
I'll take him... Thought he looked a handful on New Year's Day... Perhaps it might be wise to consult Upson on what he was like to play against? Good to see we are trying to press on. SMF20
  • Score: 17

4:10pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Howie2 says...

Much speculation about strikers but why has Craig Conway not been re-signed? We know what he is capable of and Nathan indicated that he would be back but he has not been mentioned for 10 days or more which I take to mean that we are no longer interested in him.
Much speculation about strikers but why has Craig Conway not been re-signed? We know what he is capable of and Nathan indicated that he would be back but he has not been mentioned for 10 days or more which I take to mean that we are no longer interested in him. Howie2
  • Score: 8

4:12pm Mon 13 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

Howie2 wrote:
Much speculation about strikers but why has Craig Conway not been re-signed? We know what he is capable of and Nathan indicated that he would be back but he has not been mentioned for 10 days or more which I take to mean that we are no longer interested in him.
Agree complete my friend.. Great shout.
[quote][p][bold]Howie2[/bold] wrote: Much speculation about strikers but why has Craig Conway not been re-signed? We know what he is capable of and Nathan indicated that he would be back but he has not been mentioned for 10 days or more which I take to mean that we are no longer interested in him.[/p][/quote]Agree complete my friend.. Great shout. SMF20
  • Score: 7

4:15pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Chi Gull says...

Howie2 wrote:
Much speculation about strikers but why has Craig Conway not been re-signed? We know what he is capable of and Nathan indicated that he would be back but he has not been mentioned for 10 days or more which I take to mean that we are no longer interested in him.
As has been reported - the change of manager at Cardiff will delay things. Obviously the new man wants to assess his options before letting anyone go - and maybe a wide player isn't the top priority any more?
[quote][p][bold]Howie2[/bold] wrote: Much speculation about strikers but why has Craig Conway not been re-signed? We know what he is capable of and Nathan indicated that he would be back but he has not been mentioned for 10 days or more which I take to mean that we are no longer interested in him.[/p][/quote]As has been reported - the change of manager at Cardiff will delay things. Obviously the new man wants to assess his options before letting anyone go - and maybe a wide player isn't the top priority any more? Chi Gull
  • Score: 15

4:20pm Mon 13 Jan 14

gburbs says...

Howie2 wrote:
Much speculation about strikers but why has Craig Conway not been re-signed? We know what he is capable of and Nathan indicated that he would be back but he has not been mentioned for 10 days or more which I take to mean that we are no longer interested in him.
More to do with the managerial change, he has been a substitute since going back. They may be reluctant to let him go or he see's it as a chance to stay.
[quote][p][bold]Howie2[/bold] wrote: Much speculation about strikers but why has Craig Conway not been re-signed? We know what he is capable of and Nathan indicated that he would be back but he has not been mentioned for 10 days or more which I take to mean that we are no longer interested in him.[/p][/quote]More to do with the managerial change, he has been a substitute since going back. They may be reluctant to let him go or he see's it as a chance to stay. gburbs
  • Score: 9

4:23pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Gee Jay says...

This guy would be an excellent replacement if Albion can get him. With regard to the Craig Conway situation, it could all be complicated with the change of management at Cardiff same goes for Mason, this might be why Albion are pitching for this guy Grabban.
Of course it could also be that Craig Conway, or his agent, want better terms than the club are prepared to offer.
If Albion are prepared to offer over 1.1 million for Grabban, they maybe want to tie it up before other clubs get to know what Sunderland will pay for Liam.
This guy would be an excellent replacement if Albion can get him. With regard to the Craig Conway situation, it could all be complicated with the change of management at Cardiff same goes for Mason, this might be why Albion are pitching for this guy Grabban. Of course it could also be that Craig Conway, or his agent, want better terms than the club are prepared to offer. If Albion are prepared to offer over 1.1 million for Grabban, they maybe want to tie it up before other clubs get to know what Sunderland will pay for Liam. Gee Jay
  • Score: 10

4:27pm Mon 13 Jan 14

ducky24 says...

Where are Burton going to get £1.1 Mllion from?
Where are Burton going to get £1.1 Mllion from? ducky24
  • Score: -19

4:31pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

Grab a Grabban, eh, Argus? I like it... That's it then, promotion is the target. No doubt about it at that amount.
Grab a Grabban, eh, Argus? I like it... That's it then, promotion is the target. No doubt about it at that amount. Willie, Willie Irvine
  • Score: 6

4:33pm Mon 13 Jan 14

AGT999 says...

gburbs wrote:
Howie2 wrote:
Much speculation about strikers but why has Craig Conway not been re-signed? We know what he is capable of and Nathan indicated that he would be back but he has not been mentioned for 10 days or more which I take to mean that we are no longer interested in him.
More to do with the managerial change, he has been a substitute since going back. They may be reluctant to let him go or he see's it as a chance to stay.
Which game was he a substitute in, I thought he was not in the Cardiff squad this season hence he was available for Brighton.
[quote][p][bold]gburbs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Howie2[/bold] wrote: Much speculation about strikers but why has Craig Conway not been re-signed? We know what he is capable of and Nathan indicated that he would be back but he has not been mentioned for 10 days or more which I take to mean that we are no longer interested in him.[/p][/quote]More to do with the managerial change, he has been a substitute since going back. They may be reluctant to let him go or he see's it as a chance to stay.[/p][/quote]Which game was he a substitute in, I thought he was not in the Cardiff squad this season hence he was available for Brighton. AGT999
  • Score: 9

4:34pm Mon 13 Jan 14

JollyRoger says...

But hardly Premiership material??
But hardly Premiership material?? JollyRoger
  • Score: -7

4:36pm Mon 13 Jan 14

fratsomrover says...

Great move. I wrote after the Bournemouth match that I thought he could be an ideal replacement for Barnes. Looked twice as sharp, pacier and far more elusive than AB. As we got over £750K for AB, I'd say Grabban is a snip at £1.1 and an ideal forward to support Ulloa. Go get him !!
Great move. I wrote after the Bournemouth match that I thought he could be an ideal replacement for Barnes. Looked twice as sharp, pacier and far more elusive than AB. As we got over £750K for AB, I'd say Grabban is a snip at £1.1 and an ideal forward to support Ulloa. Go get him !! fratsomrover
  • Score: 8

4:36pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Aye Aye says...

Really? I'm not sure whether to be impressed or underwhelmed by this - the jury is very much out for me on this one.
Really? I'm not sure whether to be impressed or underwhelmed by this - the jury is very much out for me on this one. Aye Aye
  • Score: -2

4:39pm Mon 13 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

AGT999 wrote:
gburbs wrote:
Howie2 wrote:
Much speculation about strikers but why has Craig Conway not been re-signed? We know what he is capable of and Nathan indicated that he would be back but he has not been mentioned for 10 days or more which I take to mean that we are no longer interested in him.
More to do with the managerial change, he has been a substitute since going back. They may be reluctant to let him go or he see's it as a chance to stay.
Which game was he a substitute in, I thought he was not in the Cardiff squad this season hence he was available for Brighton.
It was just the FA cup game I think
[quote][p][bold]AGT999[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gburbs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Howie2[/bold] wrote: Much speculation about strikers but why has Craig Conway not been re-signed? We know what he is capable of and Nathan indicated that he would be back but he has not been mentioned for 10 days or more which I take to mean that we are no longer interested in him.[/p][/quote]More to do with the managerial change, he has been a substitute since going back. They may be reluctant to let him go or he see's it as a chance to stay.[/p][/quote]Which game was he a substitute in, I thought he was not in the Cardiff squad this season hence he was available for Brighton.[/p][/quote]It was just the FA cup game I think SMF20
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4:43pm Mon 13 Jan 14

hannover seagull says...

I think a sriker is vital at the moment, heaven forbid Leo getting another knock then we are in trouble and would have to rely on an unknown loanee.
CMS needs at least another month and Hoskins? will he play this season
Conway would be good for us but we still have Solly to bring in
I am more concerned about RB position than Wings ,as much as I love and respect Calde as a top pro he is sadly off the pace this year,Bruno has pace going forward but is slow getting back and makes too many unforced errors and gets booked out of frustration
Chicksen is a good propect but that will take time although he can apparently play on the left or right
I still think we will make play-offs but the next few weeks will be decisive with both transfer deals and our tough away schedule

UTA.................
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I think a sriker is vital at the moment, heaven forbid Leo getting another knock then we are in trouble and would have to rely on an unknown loanee. CMS needs at least another month and Hoskins? will he play this season Conway would be good for us but we still have Solly to bring in I am more concerned about RB position than Wings ,as much as I love and respect Calde as a top pro he is sadly off the pace this year,Bruno has pace going forward but is slow getting back and makes too many unforced errors and gets booked out of frustration Chicksen is a good propect but that will take time although he can apparently play on the left or right I still think we will make play-offs but the next few weeks will be decisive with both transfer deals and our tough away schedule UTA................. .......... hannover seagull
  • Score: 4

4:55pm Mon 13 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

AGT999 wrote:
gburbs wrote:
Howie2 wrote:
Much speculation about strikers but why has Craig Conway not been re-signed? We know what he is capable of and Nathan indicated that he would be back but he has not been mentioned for 10 days or more which I take to mean that we are no longer interested in him.
More to do with the managerial change, he has been a substitute since going back. They may be reluctant to let him go or he see's it as a chance to stay.
Which game was he a substitute in, I thought he was not in the Cardiff squad this season hence he was available for Brighton.
As I understand it Conway doesn't have a squad number but I thought I read somewhere that Cardiff were re-thinking their position on him.
[quote][p][bold]AGT999[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gburbs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Howie2[/bold] wrote: Much speculation about strikers but why has Craig Conway not been re-signed? We know what he is capable of and Nathan indicated that he would be back but he has not been mentioned for 10 days or more which I take to mean that we are no longer interested in him.[/p][/quote]More to do with the managerial change, he has been a substitute since going back. They may be reluctant to let him go or he see's it as a chance to stay.[/p][/quote]Which game was he a substitute in, I thought he was not in the Cardiff squad this season hence he was available for Brighton.[/p][/quote]As I understand it Conway doesn't have a squad number but I thought I read somewhere that Cardiff were re-thinking their position on him. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

4:56pm Mon 13 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m.
Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering.

Uta
Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m. Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering. Uta SMF20
  • Score: -13

5:03pm Mon 13 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

SMF20 wrote:
Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m.
Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering.

Uta
We can replace Barnes for a figure close to what we paid for him, so no prob for me. Sell Bridcutt, well I think we can handle that one too within our current squad. Ulloa is different, it would cost big money to replace him, we would sell only to buy, not sure what we would gain, and I am not so sure that we would get big big offers for him, he did well last year, has been injured this year and I think the jury would still be out on him right now, out as far as the prem is concerned, and only a prem club would have the funds to get him. Defenders, yep new for next year but fine as we are for this year, a decision for the summer rebuild.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m. Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering. Uta[/p][/quote]We can replace Barnes for a figure close to what we paid for him, so no prob for me. Sell Bridcutt, well I think we can handle that one too within our current squad. Ulloa is different, it would cost big money to replace him, we would sell only to buy, not sure what we would gain, and I am not so sure that we would get big big offers for him, he did well last year, has been injured this year and I think the jury would still be out on him right now, out as far as the prem is concerned, and only a prem club would have the funds to get him. Defenders, yep new for next year but fine as we are for this year, a decision for the summer rebuild. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

5:06pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Albion In Staffs says...

I'm not exactly breaking new ground by saying that the art to selling and buying is to make onward improvement, but whoever comes in to fill Barnes' boots needs to extend that philosophy and I'm comfortable our guys will ensure that's the case.
Either a dynamic player who has immediate impact AND potential for the Prem, or someone more likely to score his fair share of goals to help the push than Barnes did and who has future sell-on value when the time is right.
As far as Grabban is concerned, I think he is likely to do the latter and that would constitute a decent swap in my book.
I'm not exactly breaking new ground by saying that the art to selling and buying is to make onward improvement, but whoever comes in to fill Barnes' boots needs to extend that philosophy and I'm comfortable our guys will ensure that's the case. Either a dynamic player who has immediate impact AND potential for the Prem, or someone more likely to score his fair share of goals to help the push than Barnes did and who has future sell-on value when the time is right. As far as Grabban is concerned, I think he is likely to do the latter and that would constitute a decent swap in my book. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 6

5:12pm Mon 13 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m.
Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering.

Uta
We can replace Barnes for a figure close to what we paid for him, so no prob for me. Sell Bridcutt, well I think we can handle that one too within our current squad. Ulloa is different, it would cost big money to replace him, we would sell only to buy, not sure what we would gain, and I am not so sure that we would get big big offers for him, he did well last year, has been injured this year and I think the jury would still be out on him right now, out as far as the prem is concerned, and only a prem club would have the funds to get him. Defenders, yep new for next year but fine as we are for this year, a decision for the summer rebuild.
My thoughts exactly.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m. Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering. Uta[/p][/quote]We can replace Barnes for a figure close to what we paid for him, so no prob for me. Sell Bridcutt, well I think we can handle that one too within our current squad. Ulloa is different, it would cost big money to replace him, we would sell only to buy, not sure what we would gain, and I am not so sure that we would get big big offers for him, he did well last year, has been injured this year and I think the jury would still be out on him right now, out as far as the prem is concerned, and only a prem club would have the funds to get him. Defenders, yep new for next year but fine as we are for this year, a decision for the summer rebuild.[/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly. SMF20
  • Score: -2

5:13pm Mon 13 Jan 14

ballantrrae says...

SMF20 wrote:
Howie2 wrote:
Much speculation about strikers but why has Craig Conway not been re-signed? We know what he is capable of and Nathan indicated that he would be back but he has not been mentioned for 10 days or more which I take to mean that we are no longer interested in him.
Agree complete my friend.. Great shout.
I think the change of Manager might have delayed any deal for Conway. I noted the Argus reporting last week (on Thursday ?) that we wanted Conway back on Loan which surprised me since I imagined we would want to sign him permanently. Of course if it were on a 'Loan to Buy' basis that would be fine if FFP constraints are a consideration. Perhaps with Barnes and Barker's sales we are now better placed to pursue Conway.
Regarding Grabban I would be in favour of him being signed - just the sort of player who would both strengthen the squad and be a good replacement for Barnes. Recruiting another striker sooner rather than later might enable Oscar to manage Ulloa's return from his injury - he did seem a little 'off the pace' and lacking sharpness on Saturday which is hardly surprising in the circumstances.
Finally after Crofts unlucky injury I hope we are able to acquire someone on loan (?) who can provide the same degree of energy and who can work box - to box as he does. We will miss him. Getting Conway back might help lessen the impact of losing Croft for the rest of this season even if they are quite different types of player.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Howie2[/bold] wrote: Much speculation about strikers but why has Craig Conway not been re-signed? We know what he is capable of and Nathan indicated that he would be back but he has not been mentioned for 10 days or more which I take to mean that we are no longer interested in him.[/p][/quote]Agree complete my friend.. Great shout.[/p][/quote]I think the change of Manager might have delayed any deal for Conway. I noted the Argus reporting last week (on Thursday ?) that we wanted Conway back on Loan which surprised me since I imagined we would want to sign him permanently. Of course if it were on a 'Loan to Buy' basis that would be fine if FFP constraints are a consideration. Perhaps with Barnes and Barker's sales we are now better placed to pursue Conway. Regarding Grabban I would be in favour of him being signed - just the sort of player who would both strengthen the squad and be a good replacement for Barnes. Recruiting another striker sooner rather than later might enable Oscar to manage Ulloa's return from his injury - he did seem a little 'off the pace' and lacking sharpness on Saturday which is hardly surprising in the circumstances. Finally after Crofts unlucky injury I hope we are able to acquire someone on loan (?) who can provide the same degree of energy and who can work box - to box as he does. We will miss him. Getting Conway back might help lessen the impact of losing Croft for the rest of this season even if they are quite different types of player. ballantrrae
  • Score: 17

5:14pm Mon 13 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

The football portal site has Grabs valued at 875k, if they are nearly right then 1.1 million should get the deal done.
The football portal site has Grabs valued at 875k, if they are nearly right then 1.1 million should get the deal done. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

5:16pm Mon 13 Jan 14

wiseman of hove says...

SMF20 wrote:
Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m.
Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering.

Uta
At the risk of some thumbs down SMF, yes, I'd take a combined £10million for Bridcutt and Ulloa. I've always worked on the premise that £4million for Bridcutt would be good so £6million for Ulloa? That's some price. I would trust Oscar to reinforce wisely. Grabban - 10 goals I think this year - and Conway certainly, plus more.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m. Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering. Uta[/p][/quote]At the risk of some thumbs down SMF, yes, I'd take a combined £10million for Bridcutt and Ulloa. I've always worked on the premise that £4million for Bridcutt would be good so £6million for Ulloa? That's some price. I would trust Oscar to reinforce wisely. Grabban - 10 goals I think this year - and Conway certainly, plus more. wiseman of hove
  • Score: -10

5:28pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Howie2 says...

SMF20 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m.
Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering.

Uta
We can replace Barnes for a figure close to what we paid for him, so no prob for me. Sell Bridcutt, well I think we can handle that one too within our current squad. Ulloa is different, it would cost big money to replace him, we would sell only to buy, not sure what we would gain, and I am not so sure that we would get big big offers for him, he did well last year, has been injured this year and I think the jury would still be out on him right now, out as far as the prem is concerned, and only a prem club would have the funds to get him. Defenders, yep new for next year but fine as we are for this year, a decision for the summer rebuild.
My thoughts exactly.
Don't even go there. Ulloa is vital to us. Just remember how long it took to get him in the first place. To replace him would take us months and that would be season over.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m. Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering. Uta[/p][/quote]We can replace Barnes for a figure close to what we paid for him, so no prob for me. Sell Bridcutt, well I think we can handle that one too within our current squad. Ulloa is different, it would cost big money to replace him, we would sell only to buy, not sure what we would gain, and I am not so sure that we would get big big offers for him, he did well last year, has been injured this year and I think the jury would still be out on him right now, out as far as the prem is concerned, and only a prem club would have the funds to get him. Defenders, yep new for next year but fine as we are for this year, a decision for the summer rebuild.[/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly.[/p][/quote]Don't even go there. Ulloa is vital to us. Just remember how long it took to get him in the first place. To replace him would take us months and that would be season over. Howie2
  • Score: 11

5:37pm Mon 13 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

Howie2 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m.
Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering.

Uta
We can replace Barnes for a figure close to what we paid for him, so no prob for me. Sell Bridcutt, well I think we can handle that one too within our current squad. Ulloa is different, it would cost big money to replace him, we would sell only to buy, not sure what we would gain, and I am not so sure that we would get big big offers for him, he did well last year, has been injured this year and I think the jury would still be out on him right now, out as far as the prem is concerned, and only a prem club would have the funds to get him. Defenders, yep new for next year but fine as we are for this year, a decision for the summer rebuild.
My thoughts exactly.
Don't even go there. Ulloa is vital to us. Just remember how long it took to get him in the first place. To replace him would take us months and that would be season over.
I've not gone anywhere my friend. I just wondered what everyone's thoughts were.
I'd rather keep Leo too.
[quote][p][bold]Howie2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m. Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering. Uta[/p][/quote]We can replace Barnes for a figure close to what we paid for him, so no prob for me. Sell Bridcutt, well I think we can handle that one too within our current squad. Ulloa is different, it would cost big money to replace him, we would sell only to buy, not sure what we would gain, and I am not so sure that we would get big big offers for him, he did well last year, has been injured this year and I think the jury would still be out on him right now, out as far as the prem is concerned, and only a prem club would have the funds to get him. Defenders, yep new for next year but fine as we are for this year, a decision for the summer rebuild.[/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly.[/p][/quote]Don't even go there. Ulloa is vital to us. Just remember how long it took to get him in the first place. To replace him would take us months and that would be season over.[/p][/quote]I've not gone anywhere my friend. I just wondered what everyone's thoughts were. I'd rather keep Leo too. SMF20
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5:45pm Mon 13 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Release clauses have been triggered before and not resulted in a purchase/sale, didn't Arsenal engage in a rather cheeky one recently?
If we make the offer to trigger the release clause we then have to convince the player that he would do better with us than his current club. His prospects would appear greater at Brighton but how much of a pay rise he would expect might be a problem.
Release clauses have been triggered before and not resulted in a purchase/sale, didn't Arsenal engage in a rather cheeky one recently? If we make the offer to trigger the release clause we then have to convince the player that he would do better with us than his current club. His prospects would appear greater at Brighton but how much of a pay rise he would expect might be a problem. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -2

5:47pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Ulloa19 says...

Howie2 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m.
Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering.

Uta
We can replace Barnes for a figure close to what we paid for him, so no prob for me. Sell Bridcutt, well I think we can handle that one too within our current squad. Ulloa is different, it would cost big money to replace him, we would sell only to buy, not sure what we would gain, and I am not so sure that we would get big big offers for him, he did well last year, has been injured this year and I think the jury would still be out on him right now, out as far as the prem is concerned, and only a prem club would have the funds to get him. Defenders, yep new for next year but fine as we are for this year, a decision for the summer rebuild.
My thoughts exactly.
Don't even go there. Ulloa is vital to us. Just remember how long it took to get him in the first place. To replace him would take us months and that would be season over.
We really don't want to sell Ulloa and don't need McCourt if we get Conway
Uta
[quote][p][bold]Howie2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m. Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering. Uta[/p][/quote]We can replace Barnes for a figure close to what we paid for him, so no prob for me. Sell Bridcutt, well I think we can handle that one too within our current squad. Ulloa is different, it would cost big money to replace him, we would sell only to buy, not sure what we would gain, and I am not so sure that we would get big big offers for him, he did well last year, has been injured this year and I think the jury would still be out on him right now, out as far as the prem is concerned, and only a prem club would have the funds to get him. Defenders, yep new for next year but fine as we are for this year, a decision for the summer rebuild.[/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly.[/p][/quote]Don't even go there. Ulloa is vital to us. Just remember how long it took to get him in the first place. To replace him would take us months and that would be season over.[/p][/quote]We really don't want to sell Ulloa and don't need McCourt if we get Conway Uta Ulloa19
  • Score: 0

5:47pm Mon 13 Jan 14

saraman says...

Howie2 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
SMF20 wrote: Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m. Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering. Uta
We can replace Barnes for a figure close to what we paid for him, so no prob for me. Sell Bridcutt, well I think we can handle that one too within our current squad. Ulloa is different, it would cost big money to replace him, we would sell only to buy, not sure what we would gain, and I am not so sure that we would get big big offers for him, he did well last year, has been injured this year and I think the jury would still be out on him right now, out as far as the prem is concerned, and only a prem club would have the funds to get him. Defenders, yep new for next year but fine as we are for this year, a decision for the summer rebuild.
My thoughts exactly.
Don't even go there. Ulloa is vital to us. Just remember how long it took to get him in the first place. To replace him would take us months and that would be season over.
Not if a deal has been set up to replace Ulloa. I would rather keep the lad, but who knows what goes on behind the scenes of this crazy game we all love so much.

As for Grabban, not sure but I'm sure he would rather play in front of 26-28k fans instead of the 10k or so at Bournemouth. No disrespect to Bournemouth, I think they are doing remarkably well on limited income and are comfortably holding their own in The Championship. EH is a top guy in my book.
[quote][p][bold]Howie2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m. Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering. Uta[/p][/quote]We can replace Barnes for a figure close to what we paid for him, so no prob for me. Sell Bridcutt, well I think we can handle that one too within our current squad. Ulloa is different, it would cost big money to replace him, we would sell only to buy, not sure what we would gain, and I am not so sure that we would get big big offers for him, he did well last year, has been injured this year and I think the jury would still be out on him right now, out as far as the prem is concerned, and only a prem club would have the funds to get him. Defenders, yep new for next year but fine as we are for this year, a decision for the summer rebuild.[/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly.[/p][/quote]Don't even go there. Ulloa is vital to us. Just remember how long it took to get him in the first place. To replace him would take us months and that would be season over.[/p][/quote]Not if a deal has been set up to replace Ulloa. I would rather keep the lad, but who knows what goes on behind the scenes of this crazy game we all love so much. As for Grabban, not sure but I'm sure he would rather play in front of 26-28k fans instead of the 10k or so at Bournemouth. No disrespect to Bournemouth, I think they are doing remarkably well on limited income and are comfortably holding their own in The Championship. EH is a top guy in my book. saraman
  • Score: 7

5:49pm Mon 13 Jan 14

seegull fly in sky says...

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baga bugaboo loowees grobbin agag now imim bryton ahoooo! Om nom a bryton seegull fly in sky
  • Score: -15

5:50pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Grendel says...

I wonder if Solly March's performance against Reading has perhaps lessened our interest in Conway?
I wonder if Solly March's performance against Reading has perhaps lessened our interest in Conway? Grendel
  • Score: 9

5:51pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Albion In Staffs says...

SMF20 wrote:
Howie2 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m.
Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering.

Uta
We can replace Barnes for a figure close to what we paid for him, so no prob for me. Sell Bridcutt, well I think we can handle that one too within our current squad. Ulloa is different, it would cost big money to replace him, we would sell only to buy, not sure what we would gain, and I am not so sure that we would get big big offers for him, he did well last year, has been injured this year and I think the jury would still be out on him right now, out as far as the prem is concerned, and only a prem club would have the funds to get him. Defenders, yep new for next year but fine as we are for this year, a decision for the summer rebuild.
My thoughts exactly.
Don't even go there. Ulloa is vital to us. Just remember how long it took to get him in the first place. To replace him would take us months and that would be season over.
I've not gone anywhere my friend. I just wondered what everyone's thoughts were.
I'd rather keep Leo too.
All sorts of theories, which is all part of the fun, but let's not get carried with wholesale change for the sake of it. In the real world i don't think its going to happen and two out, two in would do us nicely and retain a settled squad for the run-in.
The Ulloa talk on here is largely self induced and I'm inclined to consider that on Feb 3rd, we'll have a squad with him in it. I'm sure the club will think that too.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Howie2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m. Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering. Uta[/p][/quote]We can replace Barnes for a figure close to what we paid for him, so no prob for me. Sell Bridcutt, well I think we can handle that one too within our current squad. Ulloa is different, it would cost big money to replace him, we would sell only to buy, not sure what we would gain, and I am not so sure that we would get big big offers for him, he did well last year, has been injured this year and I think the jury would still be out on him right now, out as far as the prem is concerned, and only a prem club would have the funds to get him. Defenders, yep new for next year but fine as we are for this year, a decision for the summer rebuild.[/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly.[/p][/quote]Don't even go there. Ulloa is vital to us. Just remember how long it took to get him in the first place. To replace him would take us months and that would be season over.[/p][/quote]I've not gone anywhere my friend. I just wondered what everyone's thoughts were. I'd rather keep Leo too.[/p][/quote]All sorts of theories, which is all part of the fun, but let's not get carried with wholesale change for the sake of it. In the real world i don't think its going to happen and two out, two in would do us nicely and retain a settled squad for the run-in. The Ulloa talk on here is largely self induced and I'm inclined to consider that on Feb 3rd, we'll have a squad with him in it. I'm sure the club will think that too. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 6

6:02pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Far gull says...

Don't know much about Grabban but have to say underwhelmed at present,was hoping Oscar's own choices might be a little more exciting,given the players that Sunderland manager's contacts and scouts seem to be picking up.
Perhaps it was his scouts that picked up on foreign talent not our club's.
Also perhaps these players being mentioned as targets are the Director of football choices which Gus felt not his cup of tea ?
There is a definite shift in policy (am not saying a bad thing) though in my eyes,before everyone votes me down about FFP, perhaps the question to be asked is, Is this a policy ,going for British players, something we prefer. Not that we have any say.
I thought Gus had tried to get us playing good technical football and Spanish etc were better at this than British .?
It does seem Nathan has more in this British swing as i just don't believe Oscar can of been watching and learning about these guys in the short time he has been here. Others thought's ??
Don't know much about Grabban but have to say underwhelmed at present,was hoping Oscar's own choices might be a little more exciting,given the players that Sunderland manager's contacts and scouts seem to be picking up. Perhaps it was his scouts that picked up on foreign talent not our club's. Also perhaps these players being mentioned as targets are the Director of football choices which Gus felt not his cup of tea ? There is a definite shift in policy (am not saying a bad thing) though in my eyes,before everyone votes me down about FFP, perhaps the question to be asked is, Is this a policy ,going for British players, something we prefer. Not that we have any say. I thought Gus had tried to get us playing good technical football and Spanish etc were better at this than British .? It does seem Nathan has more in this British swing as i just don't believe Oscar can of been watching and learning about these guys in the short time he has been here. Others thought's ?? Far gull
  • Score: 8

6:02pm Mon 13 Jan 14

hannover seagull says...

SMF20 wrote:
Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m.
Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering.

Uta
Interesting question although the sale of Bridcutt alone should get most of that shopping list if his true value is realised
In my humble opinion, we must keep Ulloa at all costs and find a strike partner for him
In this league the better teams have a (hunt in pairs) strike force and that to me seems to be the way to go
One up front is fine when you have an outstanding striker and an attack minded midfield usually only found at the top level

Good shopping list any of those would be welcome
UTA..........
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m. Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering. Uta[/p][/quote]Interesting question although the sale of Bridcutt alone should get most of that shopping list if his true value is realised In my humble opinion, we must keep Ulloa at all costs and find a strike partner for him In this league the better teams have a (hunt in pairs) strike force and that to me seems to be the way to go One up front is fine when you have an outstanding striker and an attack minded midfield usually only found at the top level Good shopping list any of those would be welcome UTA.......... hannover seagull
  • Score: 4

6:03pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Alfie T says...

Think Bournemouth might have something to say about losing their best striker for 1.1 mill, they may be a smaller club than us but they have investment now and perhaps don't need to sell.
Think Bournemouth might have something to say about losing their best striker for 1.1 mill, they may be a smaller club than us but they have investment now and perhaps don't need to sell. Alfie T
  • Score: 6

6:10pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Alfie T wrote:
Think Bournemouth might have something to say about losing their best striker for 1.1 mill, they may be a smaller club than us but they have investment now and perhaps don't need to sell.
Alfie boy, if you read the story he has a release clause at 1.1 mill
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: Think Bournemouth might have something to say about losing their best striker for 1.1 mill, they may be a smaller club than us but they have investment now and perhaps don't need to sell.[/p][/quote]Alfie boy, if you read the story he has a release clause at 1.1 mill Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 1

6:10pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Alfie T wrote:
Think Bournemouth might have something to say about losing their best striker for 1.1 mill, they may be a smaller club than us but they have investment now and perhaps don't need to sell.
Alfie boy, if you read the story he has a release clause at 1.1 mill
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: Think Bournemouth might have something to say about losing their best striker for 1.1 mill, they may be a smaller club than us but they have investment now and perhaps don't need to sell.[/p][/quote]Alfie boy, if you read the story he has a release clause at 1.1 mill Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 3

6:12pm Mon 13 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Alfie T wrote:
Think Bournemouth might have something to say about losing their best striker for 1.1 mill, they may be a smaller club than us but they have investment now and perhaps don't need to sell.
True but if the trigger is activated, and the lad wants to go, can Bournemouth really do much about it. Sales such as this usually fall down because either the player doesn't want to move or, because the parent club offer him an improved deal to stay. I think if we make the trigger offer Grabban might well say yes, if his personal terms are met. No disrespect to Bournemouth but it would be a step up for the lad.
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: Think Bournemouth might have something to say about losing their best striker for 1.1 mill, they may be a smaller club than us but they have investment now and perhaps don't need to sell.[/p][/quote]True but if the trigger is activated, and the lad wants to go, can Bournemouth really do much about it. Sales such as this usually fall down because either the player doesn't want to move or, because the parent club offer him an improved deal to stay. I think if we make the trigger offer Grabban might well say yes, if his personal terms are met. No disrespect to Bournemouth but it would be a step up for the lad. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

6:14pm Mon 13 Jan 14

rolivan says...

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
Grab a Grabban, eh, Argus? I like it... That's it then, promotion is the target. No doubt about it at that amount.
It could have been "Are Brighton are about to Grab an ace from Bournemouth" missed out again headline compositor
[quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: Grab a Grabban, eh, Argus? I like it... That's it then, promotion is the target. No doubt about it at that amount.[/p][/quote]It could have been "Are Brighton are about to Grab an ace from Bournemouth" missed out again headline compositor rolivan
  • Score: -2

6:19pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Alfie T says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Alfie T wrote:
Think Bournemouth might have something to say about losing their best striker for 1.1 mill, they may be a smaller club than us but they have investment now and perhaps don't need to sell.
Alfie boy, if you read the story he has a release clause at 1.1 mill
I did read that AIS, and you are correct, it allows him to talk to clubs meeting that valuation. My point is that Bournemouth have financial investment now, and may well be looking at an improved offer to keep him. Personally, I thought he was their stand out player, I'd be delighted if we got him.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: Think Bournemouth might have something to say about losing their best striker for 1.1 mill, they may be a smaller club than us but they have investment now and perhaps don't need to sell.[/p][/quote]Alfie boy, if you read the story he has a release clause at 1.1 mill[/p][/quote]I did read that AIS, and you are correct, it allows him to talk to clubs meeting that valuation. My point is that Bournemouth have financial investment now, and may well be looking at an improved offer to keep him. Personally, I thought he was their stand out player, I'd be delighted if we got him. Alfie T
  • Score: 4

6:23pm Mon 13 Jan 14

rolivan says...

Without Goals you don't win games so we need to keep Leo for as long as possible the same for TK who has kept us in games.
Without Goals you don't win games so we need to keep Leo for as long as possible the same for TK who has kept us in games. rolivan
  • Score: 4

6:32pm Mon 13 Jan 14

namgo49 says...

More importantly than all this is to sort out TK's contract extension.
More importantly than all this is to sort out TK's contract extension. namgo49
  • Score: 7

6:35pm Mon 13 Jan 14

and another thing.... says...

namgo49 wrote:
More importantly than all this is to sort out TK's contract extension.
Excellent point!
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: More importantly than all this is to sort out TK's contract extension.[/p][/quote]Excellent point! and another thing....
  • Score: 5

6:36pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Far gull says...

namgo49 wrote:
More importantly than all this is to sort out TK's contract extension.
This will not get sorted till end of season. End of
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: More importantly than all this is to sort out TK's contract extension.[/p][/quote]This will not get sorted till end of season. End of Far gull
  • Score: -3

6:40pm Mon 13 Jan 14

pjwilk says...

1.1 million,how much more to get Carlton Cole he is out of contract today so its just a matter of wages,must be value for money.
1.1 million,how much more to get Carlton Cole he is out of contract today so its just a matter of wages,must be value for money. pjwilk
  • Score: -4

6:41pm Mon 13 Jan 14

mark by the sea says...

Club have inquired for Matt Richie, I did mention that about a month ago,
3 million for Ritchie and grabban?
Club have inquired for Matt Richie, I did mention that about a month ago, 3 million for Ritchie and grabban? mark by the sea
  • Score: 4

6:41pm Mon 13 Jan 14

namgo49 says...

If you look at The Bournemouth Daily Echo, sister paper to the Argus, they put a different slant on things, the club stating there has been no approach "up until the last 1/2 hour". Too"we are not a sellig club". Where have we heard that before.

Some interesting comments on their message board, Grabban not rated as highly as Ritchie.
If you look at The Bournemouth Daily Echo, sister paper to the Argus, they put a different slant on things, the club stating there has been no approach "up until the last 1/2 hour". Too"we are not a sellig club". Where have we heard that before. Some interesting comments on their message board, Grabban not rated as highly as Ritchie. namgo49
  • Score: 0

6:55pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Alfie T says...

namgo49 wrote:
If you look at The Bournemouth Daily Echo, sister paper to the Argus, they put a different slant on things, the club stating there has been no approach "up until the last 1/2 hour". Too"we are not a sellig club". Where have we heard that before.

Some interesting comments on their message board, Grabban not rated as highly as Ritchie.
Thought Ritchie was very ordinary at our place, substituted I think, Grabban looked lively all game.
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: If you look at The Bournemouth Daily Echo, sister paper to the Argus, they put a different slant on things, the club stating there has been no approach "up until the last 1/2 hour". Too"we are not a sellig club". Where have we heard that before. Some interesting comments on their message board, Grabban not rated as highly as Ritchie.[/p][/quote]Thought Ritchie was very ordinary at our place, substituted I think, Grabban looked lively all game. Alfie T
  • Score: 4

6:57pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Alfie T wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Alfie T wrote:
Think Bournemouth might have something to say about losing their best striker for 1.1 mill, they may be a smaller club than us but they have investment now and perhaps don't need to sell.
Alfie boy, if you read the story he has a release clause at 1.1 mill
I did read that AIS, and you are correct, it allows him to talk to clubs meeting that valuation. My point is that Bournemouth have financial investment now, and may well be looking at an improved offer to keep him. Personally, I thought he was their stand out player, I'd be delighted if we got him.
Fair point, there's always a chance they can persuade him to stay, but at 1.1 he has the power of choice.... If we choose to pursue it.
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: Think Bournemouth might have something to say about losing their best striker for 1.1 mill, they may be a smaller club than us but they have investment now and perhaps don't need to sell.[/p][/quote]Alfie boy, if you read the story he has a release clause at 1.1 mill[/p][/quote]I did read that AIS, and you are correct, it allows him to talk to clubs meeting that valuation. My point is that Bournemouth have financial investment now, and may well be looking at an improved offer to keep him. Personally, I thought he was their stand out player, I'd be delighted if we got him.[/p][/quote]Fair point, there's always a chance they can persuade him to stay, but at 1.1 he has the power of choice.... If we choose to pursue it. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 2

7:01pm Mon 13 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

Alfie T wrote:
namgo49 wrote:
If you look at The Bournemouth Daily Echo, sister paper to the Argus, they put a different slant on things, the club stating there has been no approach "up until the last 1/2 hour". Too"we are not a sellig club". Where have we heard that before.

Some interesting comments on their message board, Grabban not rated as highly as Ritchie.
Thought Ritchie was very ordinary at our place, substituted I think, Grabban looked lively all game.
Agreed although I have seen him a few times and he has usually played better than that.

It's all speculation and opinions at the moment and for me I can't see why Ritchie would be bought in unless it was as a replacement for Buckley... I really wouldn't want to see Marchs prospects be sent back to the DS again.
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: If you look at The Bournemouth Daily Echo, sister paper to the Argus, they put a different slant on things, the club stating there has been no approach "up until the last 1/2 hour". Too"we are not a sellig club". Where have we heard that before. Some interesting comments on their message board, Grabban not rated as highly as Ritchie.[/p][/quote]Thought Ritchie was very ordinary at our place, substituted I think, Grabban looked lively all game.[/p][/quote]Agreed although I have seen him a few times and he has usually played better than that. It's all speculation and opinions at the moment and for me I can't see why Ritchie would be bought in unless it was as a replacement for Buckley... I really wouldn't want to see Marchs prospects be sent back to the DS again. SMF20
  • Score: 4

7:04pm Mon 13 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

I wonder if we are adopting an, 'either or,' approach re, Mason and Grabban, and if we spend 1.1 million on Grabban, does that suggest that Mason would be a loan deal rather than a purchase?
Three strikers should be enough for us, two on contract plus Obika and CMS at some point, do we really need a fourth option? Ulloa, Grabban and Obika sounds good to me. CMS should return during Obika's loan period, with a little luck.
I wonder if we are adopting an, 'either or,' approach re, Mason and Grabban, and if we spend 1.1 million on Grabban, does that suggest that Mason would be a loan deal rather than a purchase? Three strikers should be enough for us, two on contract plus Obika and CMS at some point, do we really need a fourth option? Ulloa, Grabban and Obika sounds good to me. CMS should return during Obika's loan period, with a little luck. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -4

7:15pm Mon 13 Jan 14

mark by the sea says...

SMF20 wrote:
Alfie T wrote:
namgo49 wrote:
If you look at The Bournemouth Daily Echo, sister paper to the Argus, they put a different slant on things, the club stating there has been no approach "up until the last 1/2 hour". Too"we are not a sellig club". Where have we heard that before.

Some interesting comments on their message board, Grabban not rated as highly as Ritchie.
Thought Ritchie was very ordinary at our place, substituted I think, Grabban looked lively all game.
Agreed although I have seen him a few times and he has usually played better than that.

It's all speculation and opinions at the moment and for me I can't see why Ritchie would be bought in unless it was as a replacement for Buckley... I really wouldn't want to see Marchs prospects be sent back to the DS again.
Goals! We need them from midfield .
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: If you look at The Bournemouth Daily Echo, sister paper to the Argus, they put a different slant on things, the club stating there has been no approach "up until the last 1/2 hour". Too"we are not a sellig club". Where have we heard that before. Some interesting comments on their message board, Grabban not rated as highly as Ritchie.[/p][/quote]Thought Ritchie was very ordinary at our place, substituted I think, Grabban looked lively all game.[/p][/quote]Agreed although I have seen him a few times and he has usually played better than that. It's all speculation and opinions at the moment and for me I can't see why Ritchie would be bought in unless it was as a replacement for Buckley... I really wouldn't want to see Marchs prospects be sent back to the DS again.[/p][/quote]Goals! We need them from midfield . mark by the sea
  • Score: -1

7:22pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Claude Back says...

Grendel wrote:
I wonder if Solly March's performance against Reading has perhaps lessened our interest in Conway?
Yes.
Anyway I think we can do better than Conway. He was ok but nowhere near as good as a fit Buckley or Noone, or potentially March.
Plus, why buy Conway now when he is on a free later this year? If Albion do want him then it's got to be a loan but I think they are not too bothered at the moment.
[quote][p][bold]Grendel[/bold] wrote: I wonder if Solly March's performance against Reading has perhaps lessened our interest in Conway?[/p][/quote]Yes. Anyway I think we can do better than Conway. He was ok but nowhere near as good as a fit Buckley or Noone, or potentially March. Plus, why buy Conway now when he is on a free later this year? If Albion do want him then it's got to be a loan but I think they are not too bothered at the moment. Claude Back
  • Score: 6

7:33pm Mon 13 Jan 14

ringtone says...

rolivan wrote:
Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
Grab a Grabban, eh, Argus? I like it... That's it then, promotion is the target. No doubt about it at that amount.
It could have been "Are Brighton are about to Grab an ace from Bournemouth" missed out again headline compositor
Or even better Are Brighton about to Grab an (Pal) ace fro/m Bournemouth
[quote][p][bold]rolivan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: Grab a Grabban, eh, Argus? I like it... That's it then, promotion is the target. No doubt about it at that amount.[/p][/quote]It could have been "Are Brighton are about to Grab an ace from Bournemouth" missed out again headline compositor[/p][/quote]Or even better Are Brighton about to Grab an (Pal) ace fro/m Bournemouth ringtone
  • Score: -9

7:33pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Vince says...

Far gull wrote:
Don't know much about Grabban but have to say underwhelmed at present,was hoping Oscar's own choices might be a little more exciting,given the players that Sunderland manager's contacts and scouts seem to be picking up. Perhaps it was his scouts that picked up on foreign talent not our club's. Also perhaps these players being mentioned as targets are the Director of football choices which Gus felt not his cup of tea ? There is a definite shift in policy (am not saying a bad thing) though in my eyes,before everyone votes me down about FFP, perhaps the question to be asked is, Is this a policy ,going for British players, something we prefer. Not that we have any say. I thought Gus had tried to get us playing good technical football and Spanish etc were better at this than British .? It does seem Nathan has more in this British swing as i just don't believe Oscar can of been watching and learning about these guys in the short time he has been here. Others thought's ??
I too have reservations about Grabban who, although he works hard and is a thrustful player, did not appear to possess the extra pace or skill which we need to link up with Ulloa. I think Joe Mason would be a better choice.
Matt Ritchie is less of a physical presence, but has pace and a great eye for goal and a good shot, so would also be preferable to Grabban.

I am also concerned that Oscar is relying on others to purchase players. I'm sure that Gus had a lot more say on potential targets with the premium on technical ability and skill rather than muscle and hard work.
Gus does of course have much more experience than Oscar of the english game and the quality of players available.
Clearly, Oscar does command the respect of the players, and is probably a very good coach - so, as long as he gets players to work with who have the potential to improve, I'm sure he will improve them.

My main concern (and I base this on limited time to assess both players) is that Jon Obika struck me as a similar player to Grabban, so are we wasting our money paying slightly over the odds for a workmanlike replica of Obika?
[quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: Don't know much about Grabban but have to say underwhelmed at present,was hoping Oscar's own choices might be a little more exciting,given the players that Sunderland manager's contacts and scouts seem to be picking up. Perhaps it was his scouts that picked up on foreign talent not our club's. Also perhaps these players being mentioned as targets are the Director of football choices which Gus felt not his cup of tea ? There is a definite shift in policy (am not saying a bad thing) though in my eyes,before everyone votes me down about FFP, perhaps the question to be asked is, Is this a policy ,going for British players, something we prefer. Not that we have any say. I thought Gus had tried to get us playing good technical football and Spanish etc were better at this than British .? It does seem Nathan has more in this British swing as i just don't believe Oscar can of been watching and learning about these guys in the short time he has been here. Others thought's ??[/p][/quote]I too have reservations about Grabban who, although he works hard and is a thrustful player, did not appear to possess the extra pace or skill which we need to link up with Ulloa. I think Joe Mason would be a better choice. Matt Ritchie is less of a physical presence, but has pace and a great eye for goal and a good shot, so would also be preferable to Grabban. I am also concerned that Oscar is relying on others to purchase players. I'm sure that Gus had a lot more say on potential targets with the premium on technical ability and skill rather than muscle and hard work. Gus does of course have much more experience than Oscar of the english game and the quality of players available. Clearly, Oscar does command the respect of the players, and is probably a very good coach - so, as long as he gets players to work with who have the potential to improve, I'm sure he will improve them. My main concern (and I base this on limited time to assess both players) is that Jon Obika struck me as a similar player to Grabban, so are we wasting our money paying slightly over the odds for a workmanlike replica of Obika? Vince
  • Score: 2

7:38pm Mon 13 Jan 14

ringtone says...

if he is Oscars choice then its okay with me.
if he is Oscars choice then its okay with me. ringtone
  • Score: -2

7:40pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Claude Back wrote:
Grendel wrote:
I wonder if Solly March's performance against Reading has perhaps lessened our interest in Conway?
Yes.
Anyway I think we can do better than Conway. He was ok but nowhere near as good as a fit Buckley or Noone, or potentially March.
Plus, why buy Conway now when he is on a free later this year? If Albion do want him then it's got to be a loan but I think they are not too bothered at the moment.
"why buy Conway now when he is on a free later this year"

Why did Burnley spend £750k on Barnes who was in the same situation? It's to get the player THIS season, not next.

Wut yeah, with March, Buckley and LuaLua plus David and Orlandi I think we're okay for wide midfielders.
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Grendel[/bold] wrote: I wonder if Solly March's performance against Reading has perhaps lessened our interest in Conway?[/p][/quote]Yes. Anyway I think we can do better than Conway. He was ok but nowhere near as good as a fit Buckley or Noone, or potentially March. Plus, why buy Conway now when he is on a free later this year? If Albion do want him then it's got to be a loan but I think they are not too bothered at the moment.[/p][/quote]"why buy Conway now when he is on a free later this year" Why did Burnley spend £750k on Barnes who was in the same situation? It's to get the player THIS season, not next. Wut yeah, with March, Buckley and LuaLua plus David and Orlandi I think we're okay for wide midfielders. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 2

7:40pm Mon 13 Jan 14

college says...

What makes anyone think that when CMS returns he's going to be the same player? look at all the top class players that have suffered the same sort of injury over the years, when they return it's always without the same explosive pace. No disrespect to CMS but his game was never about holding up the ball, great layoffs from a first touch etc, it was about using his pace on through balls, chasing and harrying. I really can't see his return as any sort of miracle second coming. I think the staff have their doubts too and are looking to cover the options if he can't do it anymore.
What makes anyone think that when CMS returns he's going to be the same player? look at all the top class players that have suffered the same sort of injury over the years, when they return it's always without the same explosive pace. No disrespect to CMS but his game was never about holding up the ball, great layoffs from a first touch etc, it was about using his pace on through balls, chasing and harrying. I really can't see his return as any sort of miracle second coming. I think the staff have their doubts too and are looking to cover the options if he can't do it anymore. college
  • Score: -1

7:40pm Mon 13 Jan 14

pte says...

Far gull wrote:
Don't know much about Grabban but have to say underwhelmed at present,was hoping Oscar's own choices might be a little more exciting,given the players that Sunderland manager's contacts and scouts seem to be picking up.
Perhaps it was his scouts that picked up on foreign talent not our club's.
Also perhaps these players being mentioned as targets are the Director of football choices which Gus felt not his cup of tea ?
There is a definite shift in policy (am not saying a bad thing) though in my eyes,before everyone votes me down about FFP, perhaps the question to be asked is, Is this a policy ,going for British players, something we prefer. Not that we have any say.
I thought Gus had tried to get us playing good technical football and Spanish etc were better at this than British .?
It does seem Nathan has more in this British swing as i just don't believe Oscar can of been watching and learning about these guys in the short time he has been here. Others thought's ??
Agree. Many of the players are not only British but suggest a connection with Nathan Jones. Obika for instance who Jones had at Charlton and Yeovil. Then Conway and Mason from Cardiff which the Welsh Jones may know from his Welsh contacts. Then a couple at Bournemouth who Jones may know about from his contacts at nearby Yeovil.
Under Gus we had four Spanish/Argie signings yet none from Oscar. Makes me wonder who is the manager as far as signings go
[quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: Don't know much about Grabban but have to say underwhelmed at present,was hoping Oscar's own choices might be a little more exciting,given the players that Sunderland manager's contacts and scouts seem to be picking up. Perhaps it was his scouts that picked up on foreign talent not our club's. Also perhaps these players being mentioned as targets are the Director of football choices which Gus felt not his cup of tea ? There is a definite shift in policy (am not saying a bad thing) though in my eyes,before everyone votes me down about FFP, perhaps the question to be asked is, Is this a policy ,going for British players, something we prefer. Not that we have any say. I thought Gus had tried to get us playing good technical football and Spanish etc were better at this than British .? It does seem Nathan has more in this British swing as i just don't believe Oscar can of been watching and learning about these guys in the short time he has been here. Others thought's ??[/p][/quote]Agree. Many of the players are not only British but suggest a connection with Nathan Jones. Obika for instance who Jones had at Charlton and Yeovil. Then Conway and Mason from Cardiff which the Welsh Jones may know from his Welsh contacts. Then a couple at Bournemouth who Jones may know about from his contacts at nearby Yeovil. Under Gus we had four Spanish/Argie signings yet none from Oscar. Makes me wonder who is the manager as far as signings go pte
  • Score: -4

7:45pm Mon 13 Jan 14

ringtone says...

Vince wrote:
Far gull wrote:
Don't know much about Grabban but have to say underwhelmed at present,was hoping Oscar's own choices might be a little more exciting,given the players that Sunderland manager's contacts and scouts seem to be picking up. Perhaps it was his scouts that picked up on foreign talent not our club's. Also perhaps these players being mentioned as targets are the Director of football choices which Gus felt not his cup of tea ? There is a definite shift in policy (am not saying a bad thing) though in my eyes,before everyone votes me down about FFP, perhaps the question to be asked is, Is this a policy ,going for British players, something we prefer. Not that we have any say. I thought Gus had tried to get us playing good technical football and Spanish etc were better at this than British .? It does seem Nathan has more in this British swing as i just don't believe Oscar can of been watching and learning about these guys in the short time he has been here. Others thought's ??
I too have reservations about Grabban who, although he works hard and is a thrustful player, did not appear to possess the extra pace or skill which we need to link up with Ulloa. I think Joe Mason would be a better choice.
Matt Ritchie is less of a physical presence, but has pace and a great eye for goal and a good shot, so would also be preferable to Grabban.

I am also concerned that Oscar is relying on others to purchase players. I'm sure that Gus had a lot more say on potential targets with the premium on technical ability and skill rather than muscle and hard work.
Gus does of course have much more experience than Oscar of the english game and the quality of players available.
Clearly, Oscar does command the respect of the players, and is probably a very good coach - so, as long as he gets players to work with who have the potential to improve, I'm sure he will improve them.

My main concern (and I base this on limited time to assess both players) is that Jon Obika struck me as a similar player to Grabban, so are we wasting our money paying slightly over the odds for a workmanlike replica of Obika?
cos he will be our player, unlike obika who is here on work experience.
[quote][p][bold]Vince[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: Don't know much about Grabban but have to say underwhelmed at present,was hoping Oscar's own choices might be a little more exciting,given the players that Sunderland manager's contacts and scouts seem to be picking up. Perhaps it was his scouts that picked up on foreign talent not our club's. Also perhaps these players being mentioned as targets are the Director of football choices which Gus felt not his cup of tea ? There is a definite shift in policy (am not saying a bad thing) though in my eyes,before everyone votes me down about FFP, perhaps the question to be asked is, Is this a policy ,going for British players, something we prefer. Not that we have any say. I thought Gus had tried to get us playing good technical football and Spanish etc were better at this than British .? It does seem Nathan has more in this British swing as i just don't believe Oscar can of been watching and learning about these guys in the short time he has been here. Others thought's ??[/p][/quote]I too have reservations about Grabban who, although he works hard and is a thrustful player, did not appear to possess the extra pace or skill which we need to link up with Ulloa. I think Joe Mason would be a better choice. Matt Ritchie is less of a physical presence, but has pace and a great eye for goal and a good shot, so would also be preferable to Grabban. I am also concerned that Oscar is relying on others to purchase players. I'm sure that Gus had a lot more say on potential targets with the premium on technical ability and skill rather than muscle and hard work. Gus does of course have much more experience than Oscar of the english game and the quality of players available. Clearly, Oscar does command the respect of the players, and is probably a very good coach - so, as long as he gets players to work with who have the potential to improve, I'm sure he will improve them. My main concern (and I base this on limited time to assess both players) is that Jon Obika struck me as a similar player to Grabban, so are we wasting our money paying slightly over the odds for a workmanlike replica of Obika?[/p][/quote]cos he will be our player, unlike obika who is here on work experience. ringtone
  • Score: -4

7:48pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Vince says...

pte wrote:
Far gull wrote: Don't know much about Grabban but have to say underwhelmed at present,was hoping Oscar's own choices might be a little more exciting,given the players that Sunderland manager's contacts and scouts seem to be picking up. Perhaps it was his scouts that picked up on foreign talent not our club's. Also perhaps these players being mentioned as targets are the Director of football choices which Gus felt not his cup of tea ? There is a definite shift in policy (am not saying a bad thing) though in my eyes,before everyone votes me down about FFP, perhaps the question to be asked is, Is this a policy ,going for British players, something we prefer. Not that we have any say. I thought Gus had tried to get us playing good technical football and Spanish etc were better at this than British .? It does seem Nathan has more in this British swing as i just don't believe Oscar can of been watching and learning about these guys in the short time he has been here. Others thought's ??
Agree. Many of the players are not only British but suggest a connection with Nathan Jones. Obika for instance who Jones had at Charlton and Yeovil. Then Conway and Mason from Cardiff which the Welsh Jones may know from his Welsh contacts. Then a couple at Bournemouth who Jones may know about from his contacts at nearby Yeovil. Under Gus we had four Spanish/Argie signings yet none from Oscar. Makes me wonder who is the manager as far as signings go
My thoughts and concerns as well. Nathan was a good player - but never premiership class - whereas Poyet WAS international class - and certainly knows real quality when he sees it. Oscar was a quality player with Barcelona - but he seems to have been told to leave the incoming transfers to Nathan Jones. Something not quite right there?
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: Don't know much about Grabban but have to say underwhelmed at present,was hoping Oscar's own choices might be a little more exciting,given the players that Sunderland manager's contacts and scouts seem to be picking up. Perhaps it was his scouts that picked up on foreign talent not our club's. Also perhaps these players being mentioned as targets are the Director of football choices which Gus felt not his cup of tea ? There is a definite shift in policy (am not saying a bad thing) though in my eyes,before everyone votes me down about FFP, perhaps the question to be asked is, Is this a policy ,going for British players, something we prefer. Not that we have any say. I thought Gus had tried to get us playing good technical football and Spanish etc were better at this than British .? It does seem Nathan has more in this British swing as i just don't believe Oscar can of been watching and learning about these guys in the short time he has been here. Others thought's ??[/p][/quote]Agree. Many of the players are not only British but suggest a connection with Nathan Jones. Obika for instance who Jones had at Charlton and Yeovil. Then Conway and Mason from Cardiff which the Welsh Jones may know from his Welsh contacts. Then a couple at Bournemouth who Jones may know about from his contacts at nearby Yeovil. Under Gus we had four Spanish/Argie signings yet none from Oscar. Makes me wonder who is the manager as far as signings go[/p][/quote]My thoughts and concerns as well. Nathan was a good player - but never premiership class - whereas Poyet WAS international class - and certainly knows real quality when he sees it. Oscar was a quality player with Barcelona - but he seems to have been told to leave the incoming transfers to Nathan Jones. Something not quite right there? Vince
  • Score: 6

7:50pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Vince wrote:
Far gull wrote:
Don't know much about Grabban but have to say underwhelmed at present,was hoping Oscar's own choices might be a little more exciting,given the players that Sunderland manager's contacts and scouts seem to be picking up. Perhaps it was his scouts that picked up on foreign talent not our club's. Also perhaps these players being mentioned as targets are the Director of football choices which Gus felt not his cup of tea ? There is a definite shift in policy (am not saying a bad thing) though in my eyes,before everyone votes me down about FFP, perhaps the question to be asked is, Is this a policy ,going for British players, something we prefer. Not that we have any say. I thought Gus had tried to get us playing good technical football and Spanish etc were better at this than British .? It does seem Nathan has more in this British swing as i just don't believe Oscar can of been watching and learning about these guys in the short time he has been here. Others thought's ??
I too have reservations about Grabban who, although he works hard and is a thrustful player, did not appear to possess the extra pace or skill which we need to link up with Ulloa. I think Joe Mason would be a better choice.
Matt Ritchie is less of a physical presence, but has pace and a great eye for goal and a good shot, so would also be preferable to Grabban.

I am also concerned that Oscar is relying on others to purchase players. I'm sure that Gus had a lot more say on potential targets with the premium on technical ability and skill rather than muscle and hard work.
Gus does of course have much more experience than Oscar of the english game and the quality of players available.
Clearly, Oscar does command the respect of the players, and is probably a very good coach - so, as long as he gets players to work with who have the potential to improve, I'm sure he will improve them.

My main concern (and I base this on limited time to assess both players) is that Jon Obika struck me as a similar player to Grabban, so are we wasting our money paying slightly over the odds for a workmanlike replica of Obika?
I'm sure when we got him Oscar said he was used to being just the coach and was looking to others to help on the recruiting side. I think that is why the position is now 'coach' not 'manager'.

I'm also sure he said he has the final say on who we get from the list of possibles and has turned down a few already.
[quote][p][bold]Vince[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: Don't know much about Grabban but have to say underwhelmed at present,was hoping Oscar's own choices might be a little more exciting,given the players that Sunderland manager's contacts and scouts seem to be picking up. Perhaps it was his scouts that picked up on foreign talent not our club's. Also perhaps these players being mentioned as targets are the Director of football choices which Gus felt not his cup of tea ? There is a definite shift in policy (am not saying a bad thing) though in my eyes,before everyone votes me down about FFP, perhaps the question to be asked is, Is this a policy ,going for British players, something we prefer. Not that we have any say. I thought Gus had tried to get us playing good technical football and Spanish etc were better at this than British .? It does seem Nathan has more in this British swing as i just don't believe Oscar can of been watching and learning about these guys in the short time he has been here. Others thought's ??[/p][/quote]I too have reservations about Grabban who, although he works hard and is a thrustful player, did not appear to possess the extra pace or skill which we need to link up with Ulloa. I think Joe Mason would be a better choice. Matt Ritchie is less of a physical presence, but has pace and a great eye for goal and a good shot, so would also be preferable to Grabban. I am also concerned that Oscar is relying on others to purchase players. I'm sure that Gus had a lot more say on potential targets with the premium on technical ability and skill rather than muscle and hard work. Gus does of course have much more experience than Oscar of the english game and the quality of players available. Clearly, Oscar does command the respect of the players, and is probably a very good coach - so, as long as he gets players to work with who have the potential to improve, I'm sure he will improve them. My main concern (and I base this on limited time to assess both players) is that Jon Obika struck me as a similar player to Grabban, so are we wasting our money paying slightly over the odds for a workmanlike replica of Obika?[/p][/quote]I'm sure when we got him Oscar said he was used to being just the coach and was looking to others to help on the recruiting side. I think that is why the position is now 'coach' not 'manager'. I'm also sure he said he has the final say on who we get from the list of possibles and has turned down a few already. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 2

7:51pm Mon 13 Jan 14

ringtone says...

college wrote:
What makes anyone think that when CMS returns he's going to be the same player? look at all the top class players that have suffered the same sort of injury over the years, when they return it's always without the same explosive pace. No disrespect to CMS but his game was never about holding up the ball, great layoffs from a first touch etc, it was about using his pace on through balls, chasing and harrying. I really can't see his return as any sort of miracle second coming. I think the staff have their doubts too and are looking to cover the options if he can't do it anymore.
And we bought this dummy to replace possibly our best ever target man, Murray, whos goals got palace promoted.

Dont get me started
[quote][p][bold]college[/bold] wrote: What makes anyone think that when CMS returns he's going to be the same player? look at all the top class players that have suffered the same sort of injury over the years, when they return it's always without the same explosive pace. No disrespect to CMS but his game was never about holding up the ball, great layoffs from a first touch etc, it was about using his pace on through balls, chasing and harrying. I really can't see his return as any sort of miracle second coming. I think the staff have their doubts too and are looking to cover the options if he can't do it anymore.[/p][/quote]And we bought this dummy to replace possibly our best ever target man, Murray, whos goals got palace promoted. Dont get me started ringtone
  • Score: -8

7:58pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Towner83 says...

I'm concerned about ulloa! He looked disinterested on Saturday and when substituted, threw his jacket to the ground and then when handed another one, two minutes later, threw that to the ground also. I think ulloa is absolute class easily the best striker we've had since bobby z. I'm just hoping it was bourne out of frustration more than anything else. Just want to mention how well wardy has played this season, I thought replacing bridge would be impossible but he has come in and done superbly. Sign him up along with TK. Keep up the good work boys!

UTA!
I'm concerned about ulloa! He looked disinterested on Saturday and when substituted, threw his jacket to the ground and then when handed another one, two minutes later, threw that to the ground also. I think ulloa is absolute class easily the best striker we've had since bobby z. I'm just hoping it was bourne out of frustration more than anything else. Just want to mention how well wardy has played this season, I thought replacing bridge would be impossible but he has come in and done superbly. Sign him up along with TK. Keep up the good work boys! UTA! Towner83
  • Score: 10

8:05pm Mon 13 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

pte wrote:
Far gull wrote:
Don't know much about Grabban but have to say underwhelmed at present,was hoping Oscar's own choices might be a little more exciting,given the players that Sunderland manager's contacts and scouts seem to be picking up.
Perhaps it was his scouts that picked up on foreign talent not our club's.
Also perhaps these players being mentioned as targets are the Director of football choices which Gus felt not his cup of tea ?
There is a definite shift in policy (am not saying a bad thing) though in my eyes,before everyone votes me down about FFP, perhaps the question to be asked is, Is this a policy ,going for British players, something we prefer. Not that we have any say.
I thought Gus had tried to get us playing good technical football and Spanish etc were better at this than British .?
It does seem Nathan has more in this British swing as i just don't believe Oscar can of been watching and learning about these guys in the short time he has been here. Others thought's ??
Agree. Many of the players are not only British but suggest a connection with Nathan Jones. Obika for instance who Jones had at Charlton and Yeovil. Then Conway and Mason from Cardiff which the Welsh Jones may know from his Welsh contacts. Then a couple at Bournemouth who Jones may know about from his contacts at nearby Yeovil.
Under Gus we had four Spanish/Argie signings yet none from Oscar. Makes me wonder who is the manager as far as signings go
I think the manger you mention in this particular department is neither Oscar or Nathan but David Burke.

I think that Burkes appointment was the beginning of the end for Gus... Gus (rightly) wanted control on this front and it was taken from him.

I vaguely remember after Gus was sacked the management team giving a statement where I'm sure they mentioned that the new person was to be a coach and not so involved in other matters.
I may be totally off but I'm sure I read something along these lines.

In my eyes it should be OG 100% that chooses the scouts and gives them their individual instructions.
It should also be for him and him only to make the final decision.

It's the one side of our developing club that I'm not a fan of.
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: Don't know much about Grabban but have to say underwhelmed at present,was hoping Oscar's own choices might be a little more exciting,given the players that Sunderland manager's contacts and scouts seem to be picking up. Perhaps it was his scouts that picked up on foreign talent not our club's. Also perhaps these players being mentioned as targets are the Director of football choices which Gus felt not his cup of tea ? There is a definite shift in policy (am not saying a bad thing) though in my eyes,before everyone votes me down about FFP, perhaps the question to be asked is, Is this a policy ,going for British players, something we prefer. Not that we have any say. I thought Gus had tried to get us playing good technical football and Spanish etc were better at this than British .? It does seem Nathan has more in this British swing as i just don't believe Oscar can of been watching and learning about these guys in the short time he has been here. Others thought's ??[/p][/quote]Agree. Many of the players are not only British but suggest a connection with Nathan Jones. Obika for instance who Jones had at Charlton and Yeovil. Then Conway and Mason from Cardiff which the Welsh Jones may know from his Welsh contacts. Then a couple at Bournemouth who Jones may know about from his contacts at nearby Yeovil. Under Gus we had four Spanish/Argie signings yet none from Oscar. Makes me wonder who is the manager as far as signings go[/p][/quote]I think the manger you mention in this particular department is neither Oscar or Nathan but David Burke. I think that Burkes appointment was the beginning of the end for Gus... Gus (rightly) wanted control on this front and it was taken from him. I vaguely remember after Gus was sacked the management team giving a statement where I'm sure they mentioned that the new person was to be a coach and not so involved in other matters. I may be totally off but I'm sure I read something along these lines. In my eyes it should be OG 100% that chooses the scouts and gives them their individual instructions. It should also be for him and him only to make the final decision. It's the one side of our developing club that I'm not a fan of. SMF20
  • Score: 7

8:07pm Mon 13 Jan 14

ringtone says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Vince wrote:
Far gull wrote:
Don't know much about Grabban but have to say underwhelmed at present,was hoping Oscar's own choices might be a little more exciting,given the players that Sunderland manager's contacts and scouts seem to be picking up. Perhaps it was his scouts that picked up on foreign talent not our club's. Also perhaps these players being mentioned as targets are the Director of football choices which Gus felt not his cup of tea ? There is a definite shift in policy (am not saying a bad thing) though in my eyes,before everyone votes me down about FFP, perhaps the question to be asked is, Is this a policy ,going for British players, something we prefer. Not that we have any say. I thought Gus had tried to get us playing good technical football and Spanish etc were better at this than British .? It does seem Nathan has more in this British swing as i just don't believe Oscar can of been watching and learning about these guys in the short time he has been here. Others thought's ??
I too have reservations about Grabban who, although he works hard and is a thrustful player, did not appear to possess the extra pace or skill which we need to link up with Ulloa. I think Joe Mason would be a better choice.
Matt Ritchie is less of a physical presence, but has pace and a great eye for goal and a good shot, so would also be preferable to Grabban.

I am also concerned that Oscar is relying on others to purchase players. I'm sure that Gus had a lot more say on potential targets with the premium on technical ability and skill rather than muscle and hard work.
Gus does of course have much more experience than Oscar of the english game and the quality of players available.
Clearly, Oscar does command the respect of the players, and is probably a very good coach - so, as long as he gets players to work with who have the potential to improve, I'm sure he will improve them.

My main concern (and I base this on limited time to assess both players) is that Jon Obika struck me as a similar player to Grabban, so are we wasting our money paying slightly over the odds for a workmanlike replica of Obika?
I'm sure when we got him Oscar said he was used to being just the coach and was looking to others to help on the recruiting side. I think that is why the position is now 'coach' not 'manager'.

I'm also sure he said he has the final say on who we get from the list of possibles and has turned down a few already.
Arnie, hello.

I actually thought cardiff scored against west ham and the new technology does not work.

You thought watford did not score against us, am i wrong in thinking if the ball looks like it has crossed the line it might not be a goal, and therefore does the ball have to hit the netting.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vince[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: Don't know much about Grabban but have to say underwhelmed at present,was hoping Oscar's own choices might be a little more exciting,given the players that Sunderland manager's contacts and scouts seem to be picking up. Perhaps it was his scouts that picked up on foreign talent not our club's. Also perhaps these players being mentioned as targets are the Director of football choices which Gus felt not his cup of tea ? There is a definite shift in policy (am not saying a bad thing) though in my eyes,before everyone votes me down about FFP, perhaps the question to be asked is, Is this a policy ,going for British players, something we prefer. Not that we have any say. I thought Gus had tried to get us playing good technical football and Spanish etc were better at this than British .? It does seem Nathan has more in this British swing as i just don't believe Oscar can of been watching and learning about these guys in the short time he has been here. Others thought's ??[/p][/quote]I too have reservations about Grabban who, although he works hard and is a thrustful player, did not appear to possess the extra pace or skill which we need to link up with Ulloa. I think Joe Mason would be a better choice. Matt Ritchie is less of a physical presence, but has pace and a great eye for goal and a good shot, so would also be preferable to Grabban. I am also concerned that Oscar is relying on others to purchase players. I'm sure that Gus had a lot more say on potential targets with the premium on technical ability and skill rather than muscle and hard work. Gus does of course have much more experience than Oscar of the english game and the quality of players available. Clearly, Oscar does command the respect of the players, and is probably a very good coach - so, as long as he gets players to work with who have the potential to improve, I'm sure he will improve them. My main concern (and I base this on limited time to assess both players) is that Jon Obika struck me as a similar player to Grabban, so are we wasting our money paying slightly over the odds for a workmanlike replica of Obika?[/p][/quote]I'm sure when we got him Oscar said he was used to being just the coach and was looking to others to help on the recruiting side. I think that is why the position is now 'coach' not 'manager'. I'm also sure he said he has the final say on who we get from the list of possibles and has turned down a few already.[/p][/quote]Arnie, hello. I actually thought cardiff scored against west ham and the new technology does not work. You thought watford did not score against us, am i wrong in thinking if the ball looks like it has crossed the line it might not be a goal, and therefore does the ball have to hit the netting. ringtone
  • Score: -6

8:08pm Mon 13 Jan 14

mark by the sea says...

Towner83 wrote:
I'm concerned about ulloa! He looked disinterested on Saturday and when substituted, threw his jacket to the ground and then when handed another one, two minutes later, threw that to the ground also. I think ulloa is absolute class easily the best striker we've had since bobby z. I'm just hoping it was bourne out of frustration more than anything else. Just want to mention how well wardy has played this season, I thought replacing bridge would be impossible but he has come in and done superbly. Sign him up along with TK. Keep up the good work boys!

UTA!
Yep ward has grown on me, really solid.. Not the flyer bridge was, I think he is out of contract this summer, so hopeful a deal has been done, players can talk to clubs after jan 1st when contracts end in summer.
[quote][p][bold]Towner83[/bold] wrote: I'm concerned about ulloa! He looked disinterested on Saturday and when substituted, threw his jacket to the ground and then when handed another one, two minutes later, threw that to the ground also. I think ulloa is absolute class easily the best striker we've had since bobby z. I'm just hoping it was bourne out of frustration more than anything else. Just want to mention how well wardy has played this season, I thought replacing bridge would be impossible but he has come in and done superbly. Sign him up along with TK. Keep up the good work boys! UTA![/p][/quote]Yep ward has grown on me, really solid.. Not the flyer bridge was, I think he is out of contract this summer, so hopeful a deal has been done, players can talk to clubs after jan 1st when contracts end in summer. mark by the sea
  • Score: 4

8:08pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

college wrote:
What makes anyone think that when CMS returns he's going to be the same player? look at all the top class players that have suffered the same sort of injury over the years, when they return it's always without the same explosive pace. No disrespect to CMS but his game was never about holding up the ball, great layoffs from a first touch etc, it was about using his pace on through balls, chasing and harrying. I really can't see his return as any sort of miracle second coming. I think the staff have their doubts too and are looking to cover the options if he can't do it anymore.
Even if CMS has lost a tiny bit of pace I think OG will use him better than Gus did, so we may well still see a more productive player than before
[quote][p][bold]college[/bold] wrote: What makes anyone think that when CMS returns he's going to be the same player? look at all the top class players that have suffered the same sort of injury over the years, when they return it's always without the same explosive pace. No disrespect to CMS but his game was never about holding up the ball, great layoffs from a first touch etc, it was about using his pace on through balls, chasing and harrying. I really can't see his return as any sort of miracle second coming. I think the staff have their doubts too and are looking to cover the options if he can't do it anymore.[/p][/quote]Even if CMS has lost a tiny bit of pace I think OG will use him better than Gus did, so we may well still see a more productive player than before Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 6

8:19pm Mon 13 Jan 14

impose our game gull says...

Towner83 wrote:
I'm concerned about ulloa! He looked disinterested on Saturday and when substituted, threw his jacket to the ground and then when handed another one, two minutes later, threw that to the ground also. I think ulloa is absolute class easily the best striker we've had since bobby z. I'm just hoping it was bourne out of frustration more than anything else. Just want to mention how well wardy has played this season, I thought replacing bridge would be impossible but he has come in and done superbly. Sign him up along with TK. Keep up the good work boys!

UTA!
For sure not his best match!! Playing on tit bits and poor service up front on his own. Better with a 2nd striker for sure. he did look off his game broadly. It was a good and fair substitution.

UTA2!
[quote][p][bold]Towner83[/bold] wrote: I'm concerned about ulloa! He looked disinterested on Saturday and when substituted, threw his jacket to the ground and then when handed another one, two minutes later, threw that to the ground also. I think ulloa is absolute class easily the best striker we've had since bobby z. I'm just hoping it was bourne out of frustration more than anything else. Just want to mention how well wardy has played this season, I thought replacing bridge would be impossible but he has come in and done superbly. Sign him up along with TK. Keep up the good work boys! UTA![/p][/quote]For sure not his best match!! Playing on tit bits and poor service up front on his own. Better with a 2nd striker for sure. he did look off his game broadly. It was a good and fair substitution. UTA2! impose our game gull
  • Score: 1

8:28pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Ulloa19 says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Club have inquired for Matt Richie, I did mention that about a month ago,
3 million for Ritchie and grabban?
Where do you get the sources of the rumour from and how true is this. I hope it is though!
Uta
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Club have inquired for Matt Richie, I did mention that about a month ago, 3 million for Ritchie and grabban?[/p][/quote]Where do you get the sources of the rumour from and how true is this. I hope it is though! Uta Ulloa19
  • Score: -2

9:04pm Mon 13 Jan 14

brightonup says...

Some great contributions here.
I wonder whether Oscar will use his contacts in Spain to unearth some gems for us... and if so, when!
Some great contributions here. I wonder whether Oscar will use his contacts in Spain to unearth some gems for us... and if so, when! brightonup
  • Score: -1

9:13pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Towner83 says...

Also, I think OG has done a great job with NJ. we must all remember that we as a club probably had the worst pre-season in terms of preparation and stability of all 92 league clubs and that coupled with the ridiculous amount of injuries we've had to deal with, I think it's somewhat miraculous that we're in 6th place. OG has a lot of class about him and that was something that Gus was missing. If poyet had been dealt the same cards, he would have sulking for sure. In oscar I trust!
Also, I think OG has done a great job with NJ. we must all remember that we as a club probably had the worst pre-season in terms of preparation and stability of all 92 league clubs and that coupled with the ridiculous amount of injuries we've had to deal with, I think it's somewhat miraculous that we're in 6th place. OG has a lot of class about him and that was something that Gus was missing. If poyet had been dealt the same cards, he would have sulking for sure. In oscar I trust! Towner83
  • Score: 13

9:14pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Gazza by the sea says...

If we're taking Ritchie he has to get a decent haircut.....
If we're taking Ritchie he has to get a decent haircut..... Gazza by the sea
  • Score: 6

9:25pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Chi Gull says...

Some of the theories on here defy belief ! Perhaps we signed Andrews because Gavin Jones's aunty was his landlady in Bolton!!

It was my recollection, like SMF20, that Managers in Spain do not get involved directly in recruiting new players. I am sure they specify the type of player that they want and put forward suggestions. OG will have difficulties there as he is not as familiar with the english game. I think someone else queried what our scouting structure is now, following the departure of Gus and Barber's cull of back room staff. The simple answer is we don't know. We have to trust in OG's judgement and influence, and given our injuries, he and Nathan are doing a pretty good job.

The rest is just the usual transfer window nonsense and speculation, but I guess that's what forums for comment thrive on.
Some of the theories on here defy belief ! Perhaps we signed Andrews because Gavin Jones's aunty was his landlady in Bolton!! It was my recollection, like SMF20, that Managers in Spain do not get involved directly in recruiting new players. I am sure they specify the type of player that they want and put forward suggestions. OG will have difficulties there as he is not as familiar with the english game. I think someone else queried what our scouting structure is now, following the departure of Gus and Barber's cull of back room staff. The simple answer is we don't know. We have to trust in OG's judgement and influence, and given our injuries, he and Nathan are doing a pretty good job. The rest is just the usual transfer window nonsense and speculation, but I guess that's what forums for comment thrive on. Chi Gull
  • Score: 6

9:25pm Mon 13 Jan 14

the amazon returns again says...

saraman wrote:
Howie2 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
SMF20 wrote: Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m. Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering. Uta
We can replace Barnes for a figure close to what we paid for him, so no prob for me. Sell Bridcutt, well I think we can handle that one too within our current squad. Ulloa is different, it would cost big money to replace him, we would sell only to buy, not sure what we would gain, and I am not so sure that we would get big big offers for him, he did well last year, has been injured this year and I think the jury would still be out on him right now, out as far as the prem is concerned, and only a prem club would have the funds to get him. Defenders, yep new for next year but fine as we are for this year, a decision for the summer rebuild.
My thoughts exactly.
Don't even go there. Ulloa is vital to us. Just remember how long it took to get him in the first place. To replace him would take us months and that would be season over.
Not if a deal has been set up to replace Ulloa. I would rather keep the lad, but who knows what goes on behind the scenes of this crazy game we all love so much.

As for Grabban, not sure but I'm sure he would rather play in front of 26-28k fans instead of the 10k or so at Bournemouth. No disrespect to Bournemouth, I think they are doing remarkably well on limited income and are comfortably holding their own in The Championship. EH is a top guy in my book.
Limited income (we have a mega rich Russian owner) Money is not an issue. Were limited to 10k gates as that is the capacity of the ground, not saying we would rival you but !!!!!! whatever!!!!. As for Grabban, he is class on his day. Normally plays as a lone striker for us due to Eddie "lets take no chances till were 3 down" Howe. God knows what Grabban can achieve if he had a decent striker alongside him. 20 goals +++.All the best
[quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Howie2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m. Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering. Uta[/p][/quote]We can replace Barnes for a figure close to what we paid for him, so no prob for me. Sell Bridcutt, well I think we can handle that one too within our current squad. Ulloa is different, it would cost big money to replace him, we would sell only to buy, not sure what we would gain, and I am not so sure that we would get big big offers for him, he did well last year, has been injured this year and I think the jury would still be out on him right now, out as far as the prem is concerned, and only a prem club would have the funds to get him. Defenders, yep new for next year but fine as we are for this year, a decision for the summer rebuild.[/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly.[/p][/quote]Don't even go there. Ulloa is vital to us. Just remember how long it took to get him in the first place. To replace him would take us months and that would be season over.[/p][/quote]Not if a deal has been set up to replace Ulloa. I would rather keep the lad, but who knows what goes on behind the scenes of this crazy game we all love so much. As for Grabban, not sure but I'm sure he would rather play in front of 26-28k fans instead of the 10k or so at Bournemouth. No disrespect to Bournemouth, I think they are doing remarkably well on limited income and are comfortably holding their own in The Championship. EH is a top guy in my book.[/p][/quote]Limited income (we have a mega rich Russian owner) Money is not an issue. Were limited to 10k gates as that is the capacity of the ground, not saying we would rival you but !!!!!! whatever!!!!. As for Grabban, he is class on his day. Normally plays as a lone striker for us due to Eddie "lets take no chances till were 3 down" Howe. God knows what Grabban can achieve if he had a decent striker alongside him. 20 goals +++.All the best the amazon returns again
  • Score: 8

9:27pm Mon 13 Jan 14

the taffster says...

Grendel wrote:
I wonder if Solly March's performance against Reading has perhaps lessened our interest in Conway?
I didn't rate Conway...in many games he was pedestrian... too slow...
[quote][p][bold]Grendel[/bold] wrote: I wonder if Solly March's performance against Reading has perhaps lessened our interest in Conway?[/p][/quote]I didn't rate Conway...in many games he was pedestrian... too slow... the taffster
  • Score: -8

9:29pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

the amazon returns again wrote:
saraman wrote:
Howie2 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
SMF20 wrote: Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m. Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering. Uta
We can replace Barnes for a figure close to what we paid for him, so no prob for me. Sell Bridcutt, well I think we can handle that one too within our current squad. Ulloa is different, it would cost big money to replace him, we would sell only to buy, not sure what we would gain, and I am not so sure that we would get big big offers for him, he did well last year, has been injured this year and I think the jury would still be out on him right now, out as far as the prem is concerned, and only a prem club would have the funds to get him. Defenders, yep new for next year but fine as we are for this year, a decision for the summer rebuild.
My thoughts exactly.
Don't even go there. Ulloa is vital to us. Just remember how long it took to get him in the first place. To replace him would take us months and that would be season over.
Not if a deal has been set up to replace Ulloa. I would rather keep the lad, but who knows what goes on behind the scenes of this crazy game we all love so much.

As for Grabban, not sure but I'm sure he would rather play in front of 26-28k fans instead of the 10k or so at Bournemouth. No disrespect to Bournemouth, I think they are doing remarkably well on limited income and are comfortably holding their own in The Championship. EH is a top guy in my book.
Limited income (we have a mega rich Russian owner) Money is not an issue. Were limited to 10k gates as that is the capacity of the ground, not saying we would rival you but !!!!!! whatever!!!!. As for Grabban, he is class on his day. Normally plays as a lone striker for us due to Eddie "lets take no chances till were 3 down" Howe. God knows what Grabban can achieve if he had a decent striker alongside him. 20 goals +++.All the best
FFP makes having a "mega rich Russian owner" less useful when it comes to buying or keeping players.

Also, Grabban's release clause would negate any apparent riches you may have (assuming he is worth anywhere near that fee).
[quote][p][bold]the amazon returns again[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Howie2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m. Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering. Uta[/p][/quote]We can replace Barnes for a figure close to what we paid for him, so no prob for me. Sell Bridcutt, well I think we can handle that one too within our current squad. Ulloa is different, it would cost big money to replace him, we would sell only to buy, not sure what we would gain, and I am not so sure that we would get big big offers for him, he did well last year, has been injured this year and I think the jury would still be out on him right now, out as far as the prem is concerned, and only a prem club would have the funds to get him. Defenders, yep new for next year but fine as we are for this year, a decision for the summer rebuild.[/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly.[/p][/quote]Don't even go there. Ulloa is vital to us. Just remember how long it took to get him in the first place. To replace him would take us months and that would be season over.[/p][/quote]Not if a deal has been set up to replace Ulloa. I would rather keep the lad, but who knows what goes on behind the scenes of this crazy game we all love so much. As for Grabban, not sure but I'm sure he would rather play in front of 26-28k fans instead of the 10k or so at Bournemouth. No disrespect to Bournemouth, I think they are doing remarkably well on limited income and are comfortably holding their own in The Championship. EH is a top guy in my book.[/p][/quote]Limited income (we have a mega rich Russian owner) Money is not an issue. Were limited to 10k gates as that is the capacity of the ground, not saying we would rival you but !!!!!! whatever!!!!. As for Grabban, he is class on his day. Normally plays as a lone striker for us due to Eddie "lets take no chances till were 3 down" Howe. God knows what Grabban can achieve if he had a decent striker alongside him. 20 goals +++.All the best[/p][/quote]FFP makes having a "mega rich Russian owner" less useful when it comes to buying or keeping players. Also, Grabban's release clause would negate any apparent riches you may have (assuming he is worth anywhere near that fee). Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 2

9:42pm Mon 13 Jan 14

brightonup says...

I was really impressed with Conway - from the moment his loan period was coming to an end! I am not suggesting that he wasn't making the effort before that, so much as that it took him some time to get used to his team mates.
I would be really pleased to see him back with us because of what I know he is capable of - but I hope if he returns, he gets straight back to top form. We cannot wait for him....
I was really impressed with Conway - from the moment his loan period was coming to an end! I am not suggesting that he wasn't making the effort before that, so much as that it took him some time to get used to his team mates. I would be really pleased to see him back with us because of what I know he is capable of - but I hope if he returns, he gets straight back to top form. We cannot wait for him.... brightonup
  • Score: 12

9:51pm Mon 13 Jan 14

mark by the sea says...

Ulloa19 wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Club have inquired for Matt Richie, I did mention that about a month ago,
3 million for Ritchie and grabban?
Where do you get the sources of the rumour from and how true is this. I hope it is though!
Uta
I think I said after the Bournemouth game the Albion had asked about Richie,
That was via a player from Bournemouth who used to play for the Albion....
I reckon 3 million would do it!
[quote][p][bold]Ulloa19[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Club have inquired for Matt Richie, I did mention that about a month ago, 3 million for Ritchie and grabban?[/p][/quote]Where do you get the sources of the rumour from and how true is this. I hope it is though! Uta[/p][/quote]I think I said after the Bournemouth game the Albion had asked about Richie, That was via a player from Bournemouth who used to play for the Albion.... I reckon 3 million would do it! mark by the sea
  • Score: 3

9:57pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

I think the Albion are like a swan at the moment. All quiet above the water but out of sight under the water it's all furious paddling. It's ail conjecture at the moment but I'm sure we'll all get to know soon enough. Just be patient everyone and don't get too excited until it's set in concrete. Maybe we'll be treated to a few surprises. UTA
I think the Albion are like a swan at the moment. All quiet above the water but out of sight under the water it's all furious paddling. It's ail conjecture at the moment but I'm sure we'll all get to know soon enough. Just be patient everyone and don't get too excited until it's set in concrete. Maybe we'll be treated to a few surprises. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 4

10:03pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Alfie T says...

the amazon returns again wrote:
saraman wrote:
Howie2 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
SMF20 wrote: Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m. Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering. Uta
We can replace Barnes for a figure close to what we paid for him, so no prob for me. Sell Bridcutt, well I think we can handle that one too within our current squad. Ulloa is different, it would cost big money to replace him, we would sell only to buy, not sure what we would gain, and I am not so sure that we would get big big offers for him, he did well last year, has been injured this year and I think the jury would still be out on him right now, out as far as the prem is concerned, and only a prem club would have the funds to get him. Defenders, yep new for next year but fine as we are for this year, a decision for the summer rebuild.
My thoughts exactly.
Don't even go there. Ulloa is vital to us. Just remember how long it took to get him in the first place. To replace him would take us months and that would be season over.
Not if a deal has been set up to replace Ulloa. I would rather keep the lad, but who knows what goes on behind the scenes of this crazy game we all love so much.

As for Grabban, not sure but I'm sure he would rather play in front of 26-28k fans instead of the 10k or so at Bournemouth. No disrespect to Bournemouth, I think they are doing remarkably well on limited income and are comfortably holding their own in The Championship. EH is a top guy in my book.
Limited income (we have a mega rich Russian owner) Money is not an issue. Were limited to 10k gates as that is the capacity of the ground, not saying we would rival you but !!!!!! whatever!!!!. As for Grabban, he is class on his day. Normally plays as a lone striker for us due to Eddie "lets take no chances till were 3 down" Howe. God knows what Grabban can achieve if he had a decent striker alongside him. 20 goals +++.All the best
With all due respect, why would a "Mega rich Russian" want to buy Bournemouth? It's not as if the ground is worth millions or the town is huge with a massive fan base, puzzling.
[quote][p][bold]the amazon returns again[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Howie2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m. Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering. Uta[/p][/quote]We can replace Barnes for a figure close to what we paid for him, so no prob for me. Sell Bridcutt, well I think we can handle that one too within our current squad. Ulloa is different, it would cost big money to replace him, we would sell only to buy, not sure what we would gain, and I am not so sure that we would get big big offers for him, he did well last year, has been injured this year and I think the jury would still be out on him right now, out as far as the prem is concerned, and only a prem club would have the funds to get him. Defenders, yep new for next year but fine as we are for this year, a decision for the summer rebuild.[/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly.[/p][/quote]Don't even go there. Ulloa is vital to us. Just remember how long it took to get him in the first place. To replace him would take us months and that would be season over.[/p][/quote]Not if a deal has been set up to replace Ulloa. I would rather keep the lad, but who knows what goes on behind the scenes of this crazy game we all love so much. As for Grabban, not sure but I'm sure he would rather play in front of 26-28k fans instead of the 10k or so at Bournemouth. No disrespect to Bournemouth, I think they are doing remarkably well on limited income and are comfortably holding their own in The Championship. EH is a top guy in my book.[/p][/quote]Limited income (we have a mega rich Russian owner) Money is not an issue. Were limited to 10k gates as that is the capacity of the ground, not saying we would rival you but !!!!!! whatever!!!!. As for Grabban, he is class on his day. Normally plays as a lone striker for us due to Eddie "lets take no chances till were 3 down" Howe. God knows what Grabban can achieve if he had a decent striker alongside him. 20 goals +++.All the best[/p][/quote]With all due respect, why would a "Mega rich Russian" want to buy Bournemouth? It's not as if the ground is worth millions or the town is huge with a massive fan base, puzzling. Alfie T
  • Score: -2

10:07pm Mon 13 Jan 14

ringtone says...

brightonup wrote:
Some great contributions here.
I wonder whether Oscar will use his contacts in Spain to unearth some gems for us... and if so, when!
you make me sick. you dont care about the england team or the future of english football.

i will meet you anytime for pistols at dawn but i will be doing it for st george not the latest fad you turd.
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: Some great contributions here. I wonder whether Oscar will use his contacts in Spain to unearth some gems for us... and if so, when![/p][/quote]you make me sick. you dont care about the england team or the future of english football. i will meet you anytime for pistols at dawn but i will be doing it for st george not the latest fad you turd. ringtone
  • Score: -11

10:11pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Alfie T says...

ringtone wrote:
brightonup wrote:
Some great contributions here.
I wonder whether Oscar will use his contacts in Spain to unearth some gems for us... and if so, when!
you make me sick. you dont care about the england team or the future of english football.

i will meet you anytime for pistols at dawn but i will be doing it for st george not the latest fad you turd.
Priceless :-)
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: Some great contributions here. I wonder whether Oscar will use his contacts in Spain to unearth some gems for us... and if so, when![/p][/quote]you make me sick. you dont care about the england team or the future of english football. i will meet you anytime for pistols at dawn but i will be doing it for st george not the latest fad you turd.[/p][/quote]Priceless :-) Alfie T
  • Score: 9

10:20pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
I think the Albion are like a swan at the moment. All quiet above the water but out of sight under the water it's all furious paddling. It's ail conjecture at the moment but I'm sure we'll all get to know soon enough. Just be patient everyone and don't get too excited until it's set in concrete. Maybe we'll be treated to a few surprises. UTA
Leon Clarke?
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: I think the Albion are like a swan at the moment. All quiet above the water but out of sight under the water it's all furious paddling. It's ail conjecture at the moment but I'm sure we'll all get to know soon enough. Just be patient everyone and don't get too excited until it's set in concrete. Maybe we'll be treated to a few surprises. UTA[/p][/quote]Leon Clarke? Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 0

10:26pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
Joel'sGrandad wrote:
I think the Albion are like a swan at the moment. All quiet above the water but out of sight under the water it's all furious paddling. It's ail conjecture at the moment but I'm sure we'll all get to know soon enough. Just be patient everyone and don't get too excited until it's set in concrete. Maybe we'll be treated to a few surprises. UTA
Leon Clarke?
Blimey, I think we can do much better than Leon Clarke! His record in the Championship is about 1 goal every 5-6 games.
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: I think the Albion are like a swan at the moment. All quiet above the water but out of sight under the water it's all furious paddling. It's ail conjecture at the moment but I'm sure we'll all get to know soon enough. Just be patient everyone and don't get too excited until it's set in concrete. Maybe we'll be treated to a few surprises. UTA[/p][/quote]Leon Clarke?[/p][/quote]Blimey, I think we can do much better than Leon Clarke! His record in the Championship is about 1 goal every 5-6 games. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 0

10:30pm Mon 13 Jan 14

and another thing.... says...

Alfie T wrote:
ringtone wrote:
brightonup wrote:
Some great contributions here.
I wonder whether Oscar will use his contacts in Spain to unearth some gems for us... and if so, when!
you make me sick. you dont care about the england team or the future of english football.

i will meet you anytime for pistols at dawn but i will be doing it for st george not the latest fad you turd.
Priceless :-)
pointless
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: Some great contributions here. I wonder whether Oscar will use his contacts in Spain to unearth some gems for us... and if so, when![/p][/quote]you make me sick. you dont care about the england team or the future of english football. i will meet you anytime for pistols at dawn but i will be doing it for st george not the latest fad you turd.[/p][/quote]Priceless :-)[/p][/quote]pointless and another thing....
  • Score: 2

10:45pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Chi Gull says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Joel'sGrandad wrote:
Joel'sGrandad wrote:
I think the Albion are like a swan at the moment. All quiet above the water but out of sight under the water it's all furious paddling. It's ail conjecture at the moment but I'm sure we'll all get to know soon enough. Just be patient everyone and don't get too excited until it's set in concrete. Maybe we'll be treated to a few surprises. UTA
Leon Clarke?
Blimey, I think we can do much better than Leon Clarke! His record in the Championship is about 1 goal every 5-6 games.
Yes and he is 28 and has been through a few clubs which would seem to suggest his attitude isn't always right. Mind you, anyone could fall out with Di Canio! Scored a lot of goals recently, but mostly in League 1. Not an investment for the future. Mason or Grabban would be better.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: I think the Albion are like a swan at the moment. All quiet above the water but out of sight under the water it's all furious paddling. It's ail conjecture at the moment but I'm sure we'll all get to know soon enough. Just be patient everyone and don't get too excited until it's set in concrete. Maybe we'll be treated to a few surprises. UTA[/p][/quote]Leon Clarke?[/p][/quote]Blimey, I think we can do much better than Leon Clarke! His record in the Championship is about 1 goal every 5-6 games.[/p][/quote]Yes and he is 28 and has been through a few clubs which would seem to suggest his attitude isn't always right. Mind you, anyone could fall out with Di Canio! Scored a lot of goals recently, but mostly in League 1. Not an investment for the future. Mason or Grabban would be better. Chi Gull
  • Score: 4

10:54pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Auzzi Cherry says...

AFCB Fan here,

Grabban would no doubt be a great addition, but I honestly don't know where they have pulled 1.1 from.
He holds the ball up very well, and is a handful, but does often make a meal out of some very basic opportunities.

He's our first choice striker at the moment, but it would be interesting to see him jump ship and see how our other striking resources get on.

Best of Luck for the rest of the season.
AFCB Fan here, Grabban would no doubt be a great addition, but I honestly don't know where they have pulled 1.1 from. He holds the ball up very well, and is a handful, but does often make a meal out of some very basic opportunities. He's our first choice striker at the moment, but it would be interesting to see him jump ship and see how our other striking resources get on. Best of Luck for the rest of the season. Auzzi Cherry
  • Score: 11

11:03pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Alfie T says...

Auzzi Cherry wrote:
AFCB Fan here,

Grabban would no doubt be a great addition, but I honestly don't know where they have pulled 1.1 from.
He holds the ball up very well, and is a handful, but does often make a meal out of some very basic opportunities.

He's our first choice striker at the moment, but it would be interesting to see him jump ship and see how our other striking resources get on.

Best of Luck for the rest of the season.
Thanks Auzzi Cherry, sounds like your describing Ashley Barnes, so it could be one out one in. You played some decent stuff at our place, one of the better sides to have visited this season.
[quote][p][bold]Auzzi Cherry[/bold] wrote: AFCB Fan here, Grabban would no doubt be a great addition, but I honestly don't know where they have pulled 1.1 from. He holds the ball up very well, and is a handful, but does often make a meal out of some very basic opportunities. He's our first choice striker at the moment, but it would be interesting to see him jump ship and see how our other striking resources get on. Best of Luck for the rest of the season.[/p][/quote]Thanks Auzzi Cherry, sounds like your describing Ashley Barnes, so it could be one out one in. You played some decent stuff at our place, one of the better sides to have visited this season. Alfie T
  • Score: 5

12:01am Tue 14 Jan 14

pte says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Ulloa19 wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Club have inquired for Matt Richie, I did mention that about a month ago,
3 million for Ritchie and grabban?
Where do you get the sources of the rumour from and how true is this. I hope it is though!
Uta
I think I said after the Bournemouth game the Albion had asked about Richie,
That was via a player from Bournemouth who used to play for the Albion....
I reckon 3 million would do it!
That's interesting. If his team mate knew Albion made an enquiry then the player himself must have known too. So either Bournemouth were open about it with the player suggesting a willingness to sell or the player was tapped up
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ulloa19[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Club have inquired for Matt Richie, I did mention that about a month ago, 3 million for Ritchie and grabban?[/p][/quote]Where do you get the sources of the rumour from and how true is this. I hope it is though! Uta[/p][/quote]I think I said after the Bournemouth game the Albion had asked about Richie, That was via a player from Bournemouth who used to play for the Albion.... I reckon 3 million would do it![/p][/quote]That's interesting. If his team mate knew Albion made an enquiry then the player himself must have known too. So either Bournemouth were open about it with the player suggesting a willingness to sell or the player was tapped up pte
  • Score: 1

12:53am Tue 14 Jan 14

tug509 says...

ringtone wrote:
brightonup wrote:
Some great contributions here.
I wonder whether Oscar will use his contacts in Spain to unearth some gems for us... and if so, when!
you make me sick. you dont care about the england team or the future of english football.

i will meet you anytime for pistols at dawn but i will be doing it for st george not the latest fad you turd.
Would that be the same St George who was born in Cappadocia ,ancient Turkey .......oh look at that ,he was born in Turkey and you are one ,i do love symetry !.
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: Some great contributions here. I wonder whether Oscar will use his contacts in Spain to unearth some gems for us... and if so, when![/p][/quote]you make me sick. you dont care about the england team or the future of english football. i will meet you anytime for pistols at dawn but i will be doing it for st george not the latest fad you turd.[/p][/quote]Would that be the same St George who was born in Cappadocia ,ancient Turkey .......oh look at that ,he was born in Turkey and you are one ,i do love symetry !. tug509
  • Score: 2

1:03am Tue 14 Jan 14

kwaidam says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Towner83 wrote:
I'm concerned about ulloa! He looked disinterested on Saturday and when substituted, threw his jacket to the ground and then when handed another one, two minutes later, threw that to the ground also. I think ulloa is absolute class easily the best striker we've had since bobby z. I'm just hoping it was bourne out of frustration more than anything else. Just want to mention how well wardy has played this season, I thought replacing bridge would be impossible but he has come in and done superbly. Sign him up along with TK. Keep up the good work boys!

UTA!
Yep ward has grown on me, really solid.. Not the flyer bridge was, I think he is out of contract this summer, so hopeful a deal has been done, players can talk to clubs after jan 1st when contracts end in summer.
Was impressed with ward on Saturday especially. He has another year on his deal at wolves so presumably they will want him back when they are promoted to the championship. But he is very happy at the Albion.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Towner83[/bold] wrote: I'm concerned about ulloa! He looked disinterested on Saturday and when substituted, threw his jacket to the ground and then when handed another one, two minutes later, threw that to the ground also. I think ulloa is absolute class easily the best striker we've had since bobby z. I'm just hoping it was bourne out of frustration more than anything else. Just want to mention how well wardy has played this season, I thought replacing bridge would be impossible but he has come in and done superbly. Sign him up along with TK. Keep up the good work boys! UTA![/p][/quote]Yep ward has grown on me, really solid.. Not the flyer bridge was, I think he is out of contract this summer, so hopeful a deal has been done, players can talk to clubs after jan 1st when contracts end in summer.[/p][/quote]Was impressed with ward on Saturday especially. He has another year on his deal at wolves so presumably they will want him back when they are promoted to the championship. But he is very happy at the Albion. kwaidam
  • Score: 4

1:24am Tue 14 Jan 14

kwaidam says...

Grabban yet another player on the recommendation on Nathan Jones or whoever else is sourcing potential players at bhafc. Not sure I like the way this is panning out. We need a manager not a head coach. Time for bloom and barber to give Oscar the power to do do his job properly rather than him having players turn up and be told coach them. In Oscar I trust, in Jones I don't.
Grabban yet another player on the recommendation on Nathan Jones or whoever else is sourcing potential players at bhafc. Not sure I like the way this is panning out. We need a manager not a head coach. Time for bloom and barber to give Oscar the power to do do his job properly rather than him having players turn up and be told coach them. In Oscar I trust, in Jones I don't. kwaidam
  • Score: 7

1:42am Tue 14 Jan 14

the amazon returns again says...

Alfie T wrote:
the amazon returns again wrote:
saraman wrote:
Howie2 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
SMF20 wrote: Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m. Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering. Uta
We can replace Barnes for a figure close to what we paid for him, so no prob for me. Sell Bridcutt, well I think we can handle that one too within our current squad. Ulloa is different, it would cost big money to replace him, we would sell only to buy, not sure what we would gain, and I am not so sure that we would get big big offers for him, he did well last year, has been injured this year and I think the jury would still be out on him right now, out as far as the prem is concerned, and only a prem club would have the funds to get him. Defenders, yep new for next year but fine as we are for this year, a decision for the summer rebuild.
My thoughts exactly.
Don't even go there. Ulloa is vital to us. Just remember how long it took to get him in the first place. To replace him would take us months and that would be season over.
Not if a deal has been set up to replace Ulloa. I would rather keep the lad, but who knows what goes on behind the scenes of this crazy game we all love so much.

As for Grabban, not sure but I'm sure he would rather play in front of 26-28k fans instead of the 10k or so at Bournemouth. No disrespect to Bournemouth, I think they are doing remarkably well on limited income and are comfortably holding their own in The Championship. EH is a top guy in my book.
Limited income (we have a mega rich Russian owner) Money is not an issue. Were limited to 10k gates as that is the capacity of the ground, not saying we would rival you but !!!!!! whatever!!!!. As for Grabban, he is class on his day. Normally plays as a lone striker for us due to Eddie "lets take no chances till were 3 down" Howe. God knows what Grabban can achieve if he had a decent striker alongside him. 20 goals +++.All the best
With all due respect, why would a "Mega rich Russian" want to buy Bournemouth? It's not as if the ground is worth millions or the town is huge with a massive fan base, puzzling.
He resides here pal, very puzzling
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the amazon returns again[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Howie2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m. Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering. Uta[/p][/quote]We can replace Barnes for a figure close to what we paid for him, so no prob for me. Sell Bridcutt, well I think we can handle that one too within our current squad. Ulloa is different, it would cost big money to replace him, we would sell only to buy, not sure what we would gain, and I am not so sure that we would get big big offers for him, he did well last year, has been injured this year and I think the jury would still be out on him right now, out as far as the prem is concerned, and only a prem club would have the funds to get him. Defenders, yep new for next year but fine as we are for this year, a decision for the summer rebuild.[/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly.[/p][/quote]Don't even go there. Ulloa is vital to us. Just remember how long it took to get him in the first place. To replace him would take us months and that would be season over.[/p][/quote]Not if a deal has been set up to replace Ulloa. I would rather keep the lad, but who knows what goes on behind the scenes of this crazy game we all love so much. As for Grabban, not sure but I'm sure he would rather play in front of 26-28k fans instead of the 10k or so at Bournemouth. No disrespect to Bournemouth, I think they are doing remarkably well on limited income and are comfortably holding their own in The Championship. EH is a top guy in my book.[/p][/quote]Limited income (we have a mega rich Russian owner) Money is not an issue. Were limited to 10k gates as that is the capacity of the ground, not saying we would rival you but !!!!!! whatever!!!!. As for Grabban, he is class on his day. Normally plays as a lone striker for us due to Eddie "lets take no chances till were 3 down" Howe. God knows what Grabban can achieve if he had a decent striker alongside him. 20 goals +++.All the best[/p][/quote]With all due respect, why would a "Mega rich Russian" want to buy Bournemouth? It's not as if the ground is worth millions or the town is huge with a massive fan base, puzzling.[/p][/quote]He resides here pal, very puzzling the amazon returns again
  • Score: 0

6:36am Tue 14 Jan 14

mark by the sea says...

pte wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ulloa19 wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Club have inquired for Matt Richie, I did mention that about a month ago,
3 million for Ritchie and grabban?
Where do you get the sources of the rumour from and how true is this. I hope it is though!
Uta
I think I said after the Bournemouth game the Albion had asked about Richie,
That was via a player from Bournemouth who used to play for the Albion....
I reckon 3 million would do it!
That's interesting. If his team mate knew Albion made an enquiry then the player himself must have known too. So either Bournemouth were open about it with the player suggesting a willingness to sell or the player was tapped up
Agents ... Players talk more to there agents than there managers! Lol
Maybe they ask about the town etc ...
I am concerned that OG is not selecting potential signings, obviously he has limited knowledge .... But I am yet to be excited over a signing since Gus left.
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ulloa19[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Club have inquired for Matt Richie, I did mention that about a month ago, 3 million for Ritchie and grabban?[/p][/quote]Where do you get the sources of the rumour from and how true is this. I hope it is though! Uta[/p][/quote]I think I said after the Bournemouth game the Albion had asked about Richie, That was via a player from Bournemouth who used to play for the Albion.... I reckon 3 million would do it![/p][/quote]That's interesting. If his team mate knew Albion made an enquiry then the player himself must have known too. So either Bournemouth were open about it with the player suggesting a willingness to sell or the player was tapped up[/p][/quote]Agents ... Players talk more to there agents than there managers! Lol Maybe they ask about the town etc ... I am concerned that OG is not selecting potential signings, obviously he has limited knowledge .... But I am yet to be excited over a signing since Gus left. mark by the sea
  • Score: 0

7:01am Tue 14 Jan 14

Alfie T says...

the amazon returns again wrote:
Alfie T wrote:
the amazon returns again wrote:
saraman wrote:
Howie2 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
SMF20 wrote: Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m. Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering. Uta
We can replace Barnes for a figure close to what we paid for him, so no prob for me. Sell Bridcutt, well I think we can handle that one too within our current squad. Ulloa is different, it would cost big money to replace him, we would sell only to buy, not sure what we would gain, and I am not so sure that we would get big big offers for him, he did well last year, has been injured this year and I think the jury would still be out on him right now, out as far as the prem is concerned, and only a prem club would have the funds to get him. Defenders, yep new for next year but fine as we are for this year, a decision for the summer rebuild.
My thoughts exactly.
Don't even go there. Ulloa is vital to us. Just remember how long it took to get him in the first place. To replace him would take us months and that would be season over.
Not if a deal has been set up to replace Ulloa. I would rather keep the lad, but who knows what goes on behind the scenes of this crazy game we all love so much.

As for Grabban, not sure but I'm sure he would rather play in front of 26-28k fans instead of the 10k or so at Bournemouth. No disrespect to Bournemouth, I think they are doing remarkably well on limited income and are comfortably holding their own in The Championship. EH is a top guy in my book.
Limited income (we have a mega rich Russian owner) Money is not an issue. Were limited to 10k gates as that is the capacity of the ground, not saying we would rival you but !!!!!! whatever!!!!. As for Grabban, he is class on his day. Normally plays as a lone striker for us due to Eddie "lets take no chances till were 3 down" Howe. God knows what Grabban can achieve if he had a decent striker alongside him. 20 goals +++.All the best
With all due respect, why would a "Mega rich Russian" want to buy Bournemouth? It's not as if the ground is worth millions or the town is huge with a massive fan base, puzzling.
He resides here pal, very puzzling
Ahh right, a little play thing for him then, bless :-)
[quote][p][bold]the amazon returns again[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the amazon returns again[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Howie2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Just a question between us fellow fans but if as well as Barnes we sold Ulloa and Bridcutt too for a combined £10m. Would you be happy with that if that £10m allowed us to bring in 2 defenders aswell as Grabban, Mason, Conway, McCourt and Goebel? Just wondering. Uta[/p][/quote]We can replace Barnes for a figure close to what we paid for him, so no prob for me. Sell Bridcutt, well I think we can handle that one too within our current squad. Ulloa is different, it would cost big money to replace him, we would sell only to buy, not sure what we would gain, and I am not so sure that we would get big big offers for him, he did well last year, has been injured this year and I think the jury would still be out on him right now, out as far as the prem is concerned, and only a prem club would have the funds to get him. Defenders, yep new for next year but fine as we are for this year, a decision for the summer rebuild.[/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly.[/p][/quote]Don't even go there. Ulloa is vital to us. Just remember how long it took to get him in the first place. To replace him would take us months and that would be season over.[/p][/quote]Not if a deal has been set up to replace Ulloa. I would rather keep the lad, but who knows what goes on behind the scenes of this crazy game we all love so much. As for Grabban, not sure but I'm sure he would rather play in front of 26-28k fans instead of the 10k or so at Bournemouth. No disrespect to Bournemouth, I think they are doing remarkably well on limited income and are comfortably holding their own in The Championship. EH is a top guy in my book.[/p][/quote]Limited income (we have a mega rich Russian owner) Money is not an issue. Were limited to 10k gates as that is the capacity of the ground, not saying we would rival you but !!!!!! whatever!!!!. As for Grabban, he is class on his day. Normally plays as a lone striker for us due to Eddie "lets take no chances till were 3 down" Howe. God knows what Grabban can achieve if he had a decent striker alongside him. 20 goals +++.All the best[/p][/quote]With all due respect, why would a "Mega rich Russian" want to buy Bournemouth? It's not as if the ground is worth millions or the town is huge with a massive fan base, puzzling.[/p][/quote]He resides here pal, very puzzling[/p][/quote]Ahh right, a little play thing for him then, bless :-) Alfie T
  • Score: 1

9:51am Tue 14 Jan 14

OldGull says...

kwaidam wrote:
Grabban yet another player on the recommendation on Nathan Jones or whoever else is sourcing potential players at bhafc. Not sure I like the way this is panning out. We need a manager not a head coach. Time for bloom and barber to give Oscar the power to do do his job properly rather than him having players turn up and be told coach them. In Oscar I trust, in Jones I don't.
Perhaps OG wants to be "Head Coach".
That is how they operate in Spain.
I am sure he can watch videos of players and make his own assessment.
[quote][p][bold]kwaidam[/bold] wrote: Grabban yet another player on the recommendation on Nathan Jones or whoever else is sourcing potential players at bhafc. Not sure I like the way this is panning out. We need a manager not a head coach. Time for bloom and barber to give Oscar the power to do do his job properly rather than him having players turn up and be told coach them. In Oscar I trust, in Jones I don't.[/p][/quote]Perhaps OG wants to be "Head Coach". That is how they operate in Spain. I am sure he can watch videos of players and make his own assessment. OldGull
  • Score: 1

10:33pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Henfield Hovite says...

Its irrelevant to this debate, but for anyone that was at that Bournemouth game, I just want to add that I thought their best player on the day by far, was their right winger, Matt Ritchie! But still cant believe we dropped 2 points!
Its irrelevant to this debate, but for anyone that was at that Bournemouth game, I just want to add that I thought their best player on the day by far, was their right winger, Matt Ritchie! But still cant believe we dropped 2 points! Henfield Hovite
  • Score: 0

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