Albion chairman pays tribute to El-Abd as team-mate labels his departure a "bad day"

The Argus: Adam El-Abd on his last start for Albion against Reading with Lewis Dunk Adam El-Abd on his last start for Albion against Reading with Lewis Dunk

ALBION chairman Tony Bloom says departed stalwart Adam El-Abd has earned his place in club folklore.

El-Abd has ended his 20-year association with the Seagulls by joining League One strugglers Bristol City on a deal until June 2017 for an undisclosed five-figure fee.

Bloom, paying tribute to the wholehearted centre-half, said: "Players of Adam's calibre in terms of loyalty to one club are a rare breed in the modern game. He has given us many years of service having come through the youth set up and has earned his place in our history books.

"He has risen with the club, helping us gain promotion to the Championship via the play-offs in 2004 and as champions in 2011, when he also won the player of the year award, and he has risen to many challenges under a number of different managers.

"I'm sad to see him leave, but he is the type of player who wants to be playing - particularly at this stage of his career. He lives for 90 minutes on the pitch and always gives 100% to the cause. I've no doubt he will prove a fine acquisition for Bristol City."

El-Abd, 29, joined Albion's centre of excellence in 1994 as a ten-year-old.

He made his debut in 2003 and his final appearance, the 300th of his League career for the club, as a late substitute in last Saturday's 1-0 win against Birmingham at The Amex.

El-Abd was disillusioned at losing his starting place to fit-again captain Gordon Greer after six successive starts during the Glaswegian's absence with a calf injury.Head coach Oscar Garcia said: "We wanted to keep Adam in the squad but we understand his position - at his age, he wants to play every game. He has been a great player for this club over many years and I would like to thank him for his hard work since I arrived."

Team-mate Inigo Calderon has branded losing El-Abd as a bad day for Albion.

The Sapnish defender tweeted: "Bad day for BHAFC, I'll miss him. easily 1 of the best I've ever met, all the best for him, because he deserves it, proud of know @aelabd6."

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6:39pm Thu 16 Jan 14

championshipgull says...

Love Adam, but at 29 a 3.5 year deal must have been too much to turn down and I just can’t see him in the prem he deserves a place in the bhafc row of legends though, good on you Adam.
Love Adam, but at 29 a 3.5 year deal must have been too much to turn down and I just can’t see him in the prem he deserves a place in the bhafc row of legends though, good on you Adam. championshipgull

6:41pm Thu 16 Jan 14

thebigun says...

Great service for the club,will be a big hit at Bristol.I don,t blame him for feeling a bit miffed at losing his place to Greer,as mentioned always gives 100% and will be missed ,But hopefully he will be replaced with a better player more suitable to premiership football
Great service for the club,will be a big hit at Bristol.I don,t blame him for feeling a bit miffed at losing his place to Greer,as mentioned always gives 100% and will be missed ,But hopefully he will be replaced with a better player more suitable to premiership football thebigun

6:45pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Gee Jay says...

championshipgull wrote:
Love Adam, but at 29 a 3.5 year deal must have been too much to turn down and I just can’t see him in the prem he deserves a place in the bhafc row of legends though, good on you Adam.
Couldn't agree more!
Good Luck Adam, We will miss you 'winding up' big opposing strikers!
[quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: Love Adam, but at 29 a 3.5 year deal must have been too much to turn down and I just can’t see him in the prem he deserves a place in the bhafc row of legends though, good on you Adam.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more! Good Luck Adam, We will miss you 'winding up' big opposing strikers! Gee Jay

6:49pm Thu 16 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

Nice touch from the boss... I can't think of a player more worthy of a chairmans praise.
Nice touch from the boss... I can't think of a player more worthy of a chairmans praise. SMF20

6:50pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Steveg1958 says...

Nice comments from TB and Oscar, its very obvious getting immediately dropped for GG last week was the last straw for a dedicated and committed player, Always gave more than 100% and was a good steady defender, no nonsense defending much like Matt Upson.
Unfortunately the same cannot be said of Gordon Greer !, Too casual at times and very suspect distribution unless backwards or sideways passing most of the time. If El Abd isn't good enough GG should be the next.
Nice comments from TB and Oscar, its very obvious getting immediately dropped for GG last week was the last straw for a dedicated and committed player, Always gave more than 100% and was a good steady defender, no nonsense defending much like Matt Upson. Unfortunately the same cannot be said of Gordon Greer !, Too casual at times and very suspect distribution unless backwards or sideways passing most of the time. If El Abd isn't good enough GG should be the next. Steveg1958

7:00pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Man from Uncle says...

100% Albion legend. All the best Adam, hopefully you'll be back home again one day...
100% Albion legend. All the best Adam, hopefully you'll be back home again one day... Man from Uncle

7:00pm Thu 16 Jan 14

wiseman of hove says...

SMF20 wrote:
Nice touch from the boss... I can't think of a player more worthy of a chairmans praise.
Well said
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Nice touch from the boss... I can't think of a player more worthy of a chairmans praise.[/p][/quote]Well said wiseman of hove

7:01pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Hampshire Gull says...

Sorry to see him go but a three ad a half year contract is obviously very attractive at this stage of his career. Can't blame him for going.
Sorry to see him go but a three ad a half year contract is obviously very attractive at this stage of his career. Can't blame him for going. Hampshire Gull

7:01pm Thu 16 Jan 14

namgo49 says...

Steveg1958 wrote:
Nice comments from TB and Oscar, its very obvious getting immediately dropped for GG last week was the last straw for a dedicated and committed player, Always gave more than 100% and was a good steady defender, no nonsense defending much like Matt Upson.
Unfortunately the same cannot be said of Gordon Greer !, Too casual at times and very suspect distribution unless backwards or sideways passing most of the time. If El Abd isn't good enough GG should be the next.
You are right re Greer and unfortunately the same can be said for Bruno. We sit there counting the mistakes hoping it will end at half a dozen (the sloppy pill tends to wear off then) and that we do not concede a goal as a result!!

In the event the club have done well as they got him to sign when they upped from a one year to a two year contract extension and have now sold for what is eluded to as a decent fee.
[quote][p][bold]Steveg1958[/bold] wrote: Nice comments from TB and Oscar, its very obvious getting immediately dropped for GG last week was the last straw for a dedicated and committed player, Always gave more than 100% and was a good steady defender, no nonsense defending much like Matt Upson. Unfortunately the same cannot be said of Gordon Greer !, Too casual at times and very suspect distribution unless backwards or sideways passing most of the time. If El Abd isn't good enough GG should be the next.[/p][/quote]You are right re Greer and unfortunately the same can be said for Bruno. We sit there counting the mistakes hoping it will end at half a dozen (the sloppy pill tends to wear off then) and that we do not concede a goal as a result!! In the event the club have done well as they got him to sign when they upped from a one year to a two year contract extension and have now sold for what is eluded to as a decent fee. namgo49

7:04pm Thu 16 Jan 14

The Phantom says...

Sad and surprised to see Adam leave. Top pro who has made the very best of his ability. In view of his recent performances I am surprised to see drop to the lower regions of Div 1 as feel there are clubs in the Championship with whom he could have been a regular. Hope it goes well for him and look forward to Bristol City climbing their division with Adam's inspirational commitment much to the fore.
Sad and surprised to see Adam leave. Top pro who has made the very best of his ability. In view of his recent performances I am surprised to see drop to the lower regions of Div 1 as feel there are clubs in the Championship with whom he could have been a regular. Hope it goes well for him and look forward to Bristol City climbing their division with Adam's inspirational commitment much to the fore. The Phantom

7:05pm Thu 16 Jan 14

russellsnr2 says...

Great player for our club hope we can bring someone else in with the same attitude for club as him and not a get rich quick player.
Any news on Lewis Grabban who was supposed to having a med at mid day?
Great player for our club hope we can bring someone else in with the same attitude for club as him and not a get rich quick player. Any news on Lewis Grabban who was supposed to having a med at mid day? russellsnr2

7:09pm Thu 16 Jan 14

namgo49 says...

With this latest development, there is, hopefully, the prospect of Dunk's abilty coming to the fore. Until the unfortunate off field events a couple of years ago, there was every indication he had a very bright future. Let us hope there will now be the opportunity for him to rekindle his career.
With this latest development, there is, hopefully, the prospect of Dunk's abilty coming to the fore. Until the unfortunate off field events a couple of years ago, there was every indication he had a very bright future. Let us hope there will now be the opportunity for him to rekindle his career. namgo49

7:14pm Thu 16 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

You can look at this sale in a slightly different way.

What if the club lets Greer go at the end of this season, would El-Abd have taken his place, honestly I think not, so someone else will, where would that leave Adam?
I am of the opinion that with the possible exception of Ward, should we buy him, our back four is going to be totally different come next season. I would guess that Adam worked this out too, why would he not take such a good deal offered by Bristol, he is more secure today than he was yesterday.
You can look at this sale in a slightly different way. What if the club lets Greer go at the end of this season, would El-Abd have taken his place, honestly I think not, so someone else will, where would that leave Adam? I am of the opinion that with the possible exception of Ward, should we buy him, our back four is going to be totally different come next season. I would guess that Adam worked this out too, why would he not take such a good deal offered by Bristol, he is more secure today than he was yesterday. VegasSeagull

7:26pm Thu 16 Jan 14

mickagull says...

As Mr Calderon said bad day, and a sad day for all supporters who love to watch a player who gives 100% every second of every game. Thank you Adam for a eventful 20 years.
My long range prediction Indigo and Adam to team up in the future as a management team.
As Mr Calderon said bad day, and a sad day for all supporters who love to watch a player who gives 100% every second of every game. Thank you Adam for a eventful 20 years. My long range prediction Indigo and Adam to team up in the future as a management team. mickagull

7:29pm Thu 16 Jan 14

farside says...

Sorry to see him go but rightly third choice at best and by next season probably not in the top 5 as we reshape and reduce the average age of our defence. Three and a half years is a great deal for him and his family and a fee is a good deal for Albion. Good luck Adam. Time for Lewis Dunk to step back up.
Sorry to see him go but rightly third choice at best and by next season probably not in the top 5 as we reshape and reduce the average age of our defence. Three and a half years is a great deal for him and his family and a fee is a good deal for Albion. Good luck Adam. Time for Lewis Dunk to step back up. farside

7:40pm Thu 16 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
You can look at this sale in a slightly different way.

What if the club lets Greer go at the end of this season, would El-Abd have taken his place, honestly I think not, so someone else will, where would that leave Adam?
I am of the opinion that with the possible exception of Ward, should we buy him, our back four is going to be totally different come next season. I would guess that Adam worked this out too, why would he not take such a good deal offered by Bristol, he is more secure today than he was yesterday.
Taking it one step further.

Today we retain the services of Dunk, with El-Abd going that makes sense. If, as I suspect, we rebuild the back four during the summer, could Upson step down to a role of cover for a new signing, would this not mean that Dunk goes.
Bruno, David, Dunk, Calde, and possibly JFC, all look vulnerable for next years squad list.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: You can look at this sale in a slightly different way. What if the club lets Greer go at the end of this season, would El-Abd have taken his place, honestly I think not, so someone else will, where would that leave Adam? I am of the opinion that with the possible exception of Ward, should we buy him, our back four is going to be totally different come next season. I would guess that Adam worked this out too, why would he not take such a good deal offered by Bristol, he is more secure today than he was yesterday.[/p][/quote]Taking it one step further. Today we retain the services of Dunk, with El-Abd going that makes sense. If, as I suspect, we rebuild the back four during the summer, could Upson step down to a role of cover for a new signing, would this not mean that Dunk goes. Bruno, David, Dunk, Calde, and possibly JFC, all look vulnerable for next years squad list. VegasSeagull

7:56pm Thu 16 Jan 14

WestStander17 says...

All been said already really. Brilliant servant to our club. Always gave 100%. Improved so much in the last few years too. Made the very best of his ability.

Can understand the decision to drop him as soon as Greer was fit would be tough to take. Found it surprising at the time too as I preferred Adam in the side. 5 figure sum makes this a unbelievably good signing for Bristol City! Well done them! Hope we can welcome Adam back home at some point.

Thanks Adam and good luck.
All been said already really. Brilliant servant to our club. Always gave 100%. Improved so much in the last few years too. Made the very best of his ability. Can understand the decision to drop him as soon as Greer was fit would be tough to take. Found it surprising at the time too as I preferred Adam in the side. 5 figure sum makes this a unbelievably good signing for Bristol City! Well done them! Hope we can welcome Adam back home at some point. Thanks Adam and good luck. WestStander17

8:00pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Tony the tiger eastbourne says...

Thanks to you for being a model professional at this club Adam. Loyalty is very rare at one club, and you are a true professional. Good luck to you
Thanks to you for being a model professional at this club Adam. Loyalty is very rare at one club, and you are a true professional. Good luck to you Tony the tiger eastbourne

8:04pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Tony the tiger eastbourne says...

Adam you are a true professional and a great guy too. Loyalty is very rare at a football club, and you have been a credit to BHAFC. Good luck to you.
Adam you are a true professional and a great guy too. Loyalty is very rare at a football club, and you have been a credit to BHAFC. Good luck to you. Tony the tiger eastbourne

8:05pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Tony the tiger eastbourne says...

Thanks to you for being a model professional at this club Adam. Loyalty is very rare at one club, and you are a true professional. Good luck to you
Thanks to you for being a model professional at this club Adam. Loyalty is very rare at one club, and you are a true professional. Good luck to you Tony the tiger eastbourne

8:08pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Tony the tiger eastbourne says...

Sorry, one got a tad excited with the keyboard
Sorry, one got a tad excited with the keyboard Tony the tiger eastbourne

8:09pm Thu 16 Jan 14

OldGull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
You can look at this sale in a slightly different way.

What if the club lets Greer go at the end of this season, would El-Abd have taken his place, honestly I think not, so someone else will, where would that leave Adam?
I am of the opinion that with the possible exception of Ward, should we buy him, our back four is going to be totally different come next season. I would guess that Adam worked this out too, why would he not take such a good deal offered by Bristol, he is more secure today than he was yesterday.
Taking it one step further.

Today we retain the services of Dunk, with El-Abd going that makes sense. If, as I suspect, we rebuild the back four during the summer, could Upson step down to a role of cover for a new signing, would this not mean that Dunk goes.
Bruno, David, Dunk, Calde, and possibly JFC, all look vulnerable for next years squad list.
Why lose JFC, He is only 19 still has plenty of time to mature.
Dunk could also still have a future with us
I think Calde will end his career with us moving in to a coaching role (I hope).
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: You can look at this sale in a slightly different way. What if the club lets Greer go at the end of this season, would El-Abd have taken his place, honestly I think not, so someone else will, where would that leave Adam? I am of the opinion that with the possible exception of Ward, should we buy him, our back four is going to be totally different come next season. I would guess that Adam worked this out too, why would he not take such a good deal offered by Bristol, he is more secure today than he was yesterday.[/p][/quote]Taking it one step further. Today we retain the services of Dunk, with El-Abd going that makes sense. If, as I suspect, we rebuild the back four during the summer, could Upson step down to a role of cover for a new signing, would this not mean that Dunk goes. Bruno, David, Dunk, Calde, and possibly JFC, all look vulnerable for next years squad list.[/p][/quote]Why lose JFC, He is only 19 still has plenty of time to mature. Dunk could also still have a future with us I think Calde will end his career with us moving in to a coaching role (I hope). OldGull

8:21pm Thu 16 Jan 14

keswick says...

Didn't see this one coming. I can see the sense from Adams point of view as he has a decent it of security but not from the clubs. Still think the defence needs a complete rebuild in the summer.
Didn't see this one coming. I can see the sense from Adams point of view as he has a decent it of security but not from the clubs. Still think the defence needs a complete rebuild in the summer. keswick

8:22pm Thu 16 Jan 14

bhaforever says...

Anybody know of the fee received?? Or what the sum may have been. Absolutely gutted good luck tug
Anybody know of the fee received?? Or what the sum may have been. Absolutely gutted good luck tug bhaforever

8:47pm Thu 16 Jan 14

pjwilk says...

For only a five figure fee he was given away,he should have spent his final years with Brighton and then put onto the staff,20 yrs of solid service.More pruning by Burke,could blow up in his face.
For only a five figure fee he was given away,he should have spent his final years with Brighton and then put onto the staff,20 yrs of solid service.More pruning by Burke,could blow up in his face. pjwilk

8:57pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Seagull John says...

Five figure fee is therefore obviously less than £100k, therefore a absolute bargain. Since £100k must surely mean little very little to us, was it just a move to get him off the wage bill to bring in Grabban?
Five figure fee is therefore obviously less than £100k, therefore a absolute bargain. Since £100k must surely mean little very little to us, was it just a move to get him off the wage bill to bring in Grabban? Seagull John

9:05pm Thu 16 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

bhaforever wrote:
Anybody know of the fee received?? Or what the sum may have been. Absolutely gutted good luck tug
The transfer market web site values El-Abd at 850K, my guess is that we got around half that sum, maybe a bit more.
[quote][p][bold]bhaforever[/bold] wrote: Anybody know of the fee received?? Or what the sum may have been. Absolutely gutted good luck tug[/p][/quote]The transfer market web site values El-Abd at 850K, my guess is that we got around half that sum, maybe a bit more. VegasSeagull

10:25pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Dingbat99 says...

He should have been offered a testimonial.
He should have been offered a testimonial. Dingbat99

10:30pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

"the type of player who wants to be playing - particularly at this stage of his career"

At which stage of his career would he not want to be playing?
"the type of player who wants to be playing - particularly at this stage of his career" At which stage of his career would he not want to be playing? Ex-pat Arnie

12:53am Fri 17 Jan 14

WestStander17 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
bhaforever wrote: Anybody know of the fee received?? Or what the sum may have been. Absolutely gutted good luck tug
The transfer market web site values El-Abd at 850K, my guess is that we got around half that sum, maybe a bit more.
Vegas, the report says "an undisclosed five figure fee" so less than £100k. Seems very cheap considering I think we'd all happily have him playing in the Championship without too much concern. Great bit of business by Bristol City.

I'm surprised no other Championship sides wanted him, there have been some pretty ordinary centre-back performances against us at the Amex this season!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bhaforever[/bold] wrote: Anybody know of the fee received?? Or what the sum may have been. Absolutely gutted good luck tug[/p][/quote]The transfer market web site values El-Abd at 850K, my guess is that we got around half that sum, maybe a bit more.[/p][/quote]Vegas, the report says "an undisclosed five figure fee" so less than £100k. Seems very cheap considering I think we'd all happily have him playing in the Championship without too much concern. Great bit of business by Bristol City. I'm surprised no other Championship sides wanted him, there have been some pretty ordinary centre-back performances against us at the Amex this season! WestStander17

12:57am Fri 17 Jan 14

Vince says...

Steveg1958 wrote:
Nice comments from TB and Oscar, its very obvious getting immediately dropped for GG last week was the last straw for a dedicated and committed player, Always gave more than 100% and was a good steady defender, no nonsense defending much like Matt Upson. Unfortunately the same cannot be said of Gordon Greer !, Too casual at times and very suspect distribution unless backwards or sideways passing most of the time. If El Abd isn't good enough GG should be the next.
Agreed. I cannot fathom this at all. The defence looked far more solid with Adam in the side than the "sideways, backwards - 6 bad passes a game" Greer who, in his 32nd year, can't have many years left to play. Have you noticed how many of Greer's forward passes are suicidal ones - leaving the Brighton player receiving the pass in danger of having his legs scythed down. Greer is a liability in my view - his only attributes being reasonable positional play - and a good header of the ball. However, he doesn't have the same desire to get in where it hurts like Adam had.

Three 1-0 wins, a 1-1 draw for a penalty wrongly awarded against Calderon, and a 0-0. 1 goal a penalty conceded in 5 of our last 6 games with Adam in the side.

He has DONE NOTHING TO DESERVE BEING DROPPED - and it should have been for Greer to earn the right to get his place back - not to be handed it on a plate. This was totally wrong.

VERY UNHAPPY AT THIS NEWS!
[quote][p][bold]Steveg1958[/bold] wrote: Nice comments from TB and Oscar, its very obvious getting immediately dropped for GG last week was the last straw for a dedicated and committed player, Always gave more than 100% and was a good steady defender, no nonsense defending much like Matt Upson. Unfortunately the same cannot be said of Gordon Greer !, Too casual at times and very suspect distribution unless backwards or sideways passing most of the time. If El Abd isn't good enough GG should be the next.[/p][/quote]Agreed. I cannot fathom this at all. The defence looked far more solid with Adam in the side than the "sideways, backwards - 6 bad passes a game" Greer who, in his 32nd year, can't have many years left to play. Have you noticed how many of Greer's forward passes are suicidal ones - leaving the Brighton player receiving the pass in danger of having his legs scythed down. Greer is a liability in my view - his only attributes being reasonable positional play - and a good header of the ball. However, he doesn't have the same desire to get in where it hurts like Adam had. Three 1-0 wins, a 1-1 draw for a penalty wrongly awarded against Calderon, and a 0-0. 1 goal a penalty conceded in 5 of our last 6 games with Adam in the side. He has DONE NOTHING TO DESERVE BEING DROPPED - and it should have been for Greer to earn the right to get his place back - not to be handed it on a plate. This was totally wrong. VERY UNHAPPY AT THIS NEWS! Vince

1:06am Fri 17 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

WestStander17 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
bhaforever wrote: Anybody know of the fee received?? Or what the sum may have been. Absolutely gutted good luck tug
The transfer market web site values El-Abd at 850K, my guess is that we got around half that sum, maybe a bit more.
Vegas, the report says "an undisclosed five figure fee" so less than £100k. Seems very cheap considering I think we'd all happily have him playing in the Championship without too much concern. Great bit of business by Bristol City.

I'm surprised no other Championship sides wanted him, there have been some pretty ordinary centre-back performances against us at the Amex this season!
Yep I saw what was printed, I just chose to think that this five figure idea is a mistake.
The source I quoted has Grabban valued at 875k, Barnes at 1.1million and Tomasz at 1.1 million, I think these three examples are pretty accurate, for this reason I can't think that their valuation of El-Abd can be so far off the mark.
If they have him at 875K, and we sold him for 99k or less, then Burke made a very very bad deal.
[quote][p][bold]WestStander17[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bhaforever[/bold] wrote: Anybody know of the fee received?? Or what the sum may have been. Absolutely gutted good luck tug[/p][/quote]The transfer market web site values El-Abd at 850K, my guess is that we got around half that sum, maybe a bit more.[/p][/quote]Vegas, the report says "an undisclosed five figure fee" so less than £100k. Seems very cheap considering I think we'd all happily have him playing in the Championship without too much concern. Great bit of business by Bristol City. I'm surprised no other Championship sides wanted him, there have been some pretty ordinary centre-back performances against us at the Amex this season![/p][/quote]Yep I saw what was printed, I just chose to think that this five figure idea is a mistake. The source I quoted has Grabban valued at 875k, Barnes at 1.1million and Tomasz at 1.1 million, I think these three examples are pretty accurate, for this reason I can't think that their valuation of El-Abd can be so far off the mark. If they have him at 875K, and we sold him for 99k or less, then Burke made a very very bad deal. VegasSeagull

1:14am Fri 17 Jan 14

Vince says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote: You can look at this sale in a slightly different way. What if the club lets Greer go at the end of this season, would El-Abd have taken his place, honestly I think not, so someone else will, where would that leave Adam? I am of the opinion that with the possible exception of Ward, should we buy him, our back four is going to be totally different come next season. I would guess that Adam worked this out too, why would he not take such a good deal offered by Bristol, he is more secure today than he was yesterday.
Taking it one step further. Today we retain the services of Dunk, with El-Abd going that makes sense. If, as I suspect, we rebuild the back four during the summer, could Upson step down to a role of cover for a new signing, would this not mean that Dunk goes. Bruno, David, Dunk, Calde, and possibly JFC, all look vulnerable for next years squad list.
Total eyewash Vegas!

1. Dunk has yet to prove himself - Adam has nothing to prove - as his defensive work is great, and he formed a rock solid combination with Upson.

2. Bruno has been a revelation recently - his skill and interplay has been a joy to watch - and some of his defensive work has been outstanding - notably in our 3-1 defeat of Leicester by far and away the best Championship side I have seen down here in the last 3 years.

3. Calde always gives 100% and is totally committed to the club. He is a great ambassador for the club, visiting schools and clubs, and has good coaching skills. I can see him remaining with the club for years to come.

4. JFC - as he matures and gets stronger has the potential to be a great mid-field player with astute passing skills and a good shot. He has already demonstrated the ability to ghost into opposition penalty areas and score vital goals. He has been kept out of the side by the form of Ince and Crofts.

5. David is the only player you mentioned who may be vulnerable next season - as he does tend to drift out of games, and is prone to giving the ball away too easily.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: You can look at this sale in a slightly different way. What if the club lets Greer go at the end of this season, would El-Abd have taken his place, honestly I think not, so someone else will, where would that leave Adam? I am of the opinion that with the possible exception of Ward, should we buy him, our back four is going to be totally different come next season. I would guess that Adam worked this out too, why would he not take such a good deal offered by Bristol, he is more secure today than he was yesterday.[/p][/quote]Taking it one step further. Today we retain the services of Dunk, with El-Abd going that makes sense. If, as I suspect, we rebuild the back four during the summer, could Upson step down to a role of cover for a new signing, would this not mean that Dunk goes. Bruno, David, Dunk, Calde, and possibly JFC, all look vulnerable for next years squad list.[/p][/quote]Total eyewash Vegas! 1. Dunk has yet to prove himself - Adam has nothing to prove - as his defensive work is great, and he formed a rock solid combination with Upson. 2. Bruno has been a revelation recently - his skill and interplay has been a joy to watch - and some of his defensive work has been outstanding - notably in our 3-1 defeat of Leicester by far and away the best Championship side I have seen down here in the last 3 years. 3. Calde always gives 100% and is totally committed to the club. He is a great ambassador for the club, visiting schools and clubs, and has good coaching skills. I can see him remaining with the club for years to come. 4. JFC - as he matures and gets stronger has the potential to be a great mid-field player with astute passing skills and a good shot. He has already demonstrated the ability to ghost into opposition penalty areas and score vital goals. He has been kept out of the side by the form of Ince and Crofts. 5. David is the only player you mentioned who may be vulnerable next season - as he does tend to drift out of games, and is prone to giving the ball away too easily. Vince

1:21am Fri 17 Jan 14

Vince says...

Sold for a 5 figure fee? - It has to be at least 10 times that amount -- otherwise BHA has become a CHARITY not a FOOTBALL CLUB!

TOTALLY GUTTED THAT HE HAS BEEN SOLD.
GREER - YES.......BUT ADAM - NO, NO, NO AND NO AGAIN.
Sold for a 5 figure fee? - It has to be at least 10 times that amount -- otherwise BHA has become a CHARITY not a FOOTBALL CLUB! TOTALLY GUTTED THAT HE HAS BEEN SOLD. GREER - YES.......BUT ADAM - NO, NO, NO AND NO AGAIN. Vince

8:37am Fri 17 Jan 14

Aye Aye says...

He will fast become an Albion legend and I don't think we've seen the last of him somehow.
He will fast become an Albion legend and I don't think we've seen the last of him somehow. Aye Aye

11:46am Fri 17 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Vince wrote:
Sold for a 5 figure fee? - It has to be at least 10 times that amount -- otherwise BHA has become a CHARITY not a FOOTBALL CLUB!

TOTALLY GUTTED THAT HE HAS BEEN SOLD.
GREER - YES.......BUT ADAM - NO, NO, NO AND NO AGAIN.
Most people (not all) would agree with the assessment that Gordon Greer is a better player than Adam El-Abd. You may have a different opinion, but using capitals doesn't make it any more valid.

In any case we don't know how much he has been sold for, so it is all conjecture.

We (ie the club) may already have a better replacement lined up to soften the blow of losing El-Abd... but we might not find out for a while.
[quote][p][bold]Vince[/bold] wrote: Sold for a 5 figure fee? - It has to be at least 10 times that amount -- otherwise BHA has become a CHARITY not a FOOTBALL CLUB! TOTALLY GUTTED THAT HE HAS BEEN SOLD. GREER - YES.......BUT ADAM - NO, NO, NO AND NO AGAIN.[/p][/quote]Most people (not all) would agree with the assessment that Gordon Greer is a better player than Adam El-Abd. You may have a different opinion, but using capitals doesn't make it any more valid. In any case we don't know how much he has been sold for, so it is all conjecture. We (ie the club) may already have a better replacement lined up to soften the blow of losing El-Abd... but we might not find out for a while. Ex-pat Arnie

11:49am Fri 17 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
WestStander17 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
bhaforever wrote: Anybody know of the fee received?? Or what the sum may have been. Absolutely gutted good luck tug
The transfer market web site values El-Abd at 850K, my guess is that we got around half that sum, maybe a bit more.
Vegas, the report says "an undisclosed five figure fee" so less than £100k. Seems very cheap considering I think we'd all happily have him playing in the Championship without too much concern. Great bit of business by Bristol City.

I'm surprised no other Championship sides wanted him, there have been some pretty ordinary centre-back performances against us at the Amex this season!
Yep I saw what was printed, I just chose to think that this five figure idea is a mistake.
The source I quoted has Grabban valued at 875k, Barnes at 1.1million and Tomasz at 1.1 million, I think these three examples are pretty accurate, for this reason I can't think that their valuation of El-Abd can be so far off the mark.
If they have him at 875K, and we sold him for 99k or less, then Burke made a very very bad deal.
Although that website might be in the right ballpark for the players you mentioned, it is generally far less accurate for most players. Although I am surprised at (as seems likely) a five-figure transfer fee for El-Abd, I don't think anyone would rate him at half a million.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WestStander17[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bhaforever[/bold] wrote: Anybody know of the fee received?? Or what the sum may have been. Absolutely gutted good luck tug[/p][/quote]The transfer market web site values El-Abd at 850K, my guess is that we got around half that sum, maybe a bit more.[/p][/quote]Vegas, the report says "an undisclosed five figure fee" so less than £100k. Seems very cheap considering I think we'd all happily have him playing in the Championship without too much concern. Great bit of business by Bristol City. I'm surprised no other Championship sides wanted him, there have been some pretty ordinary centre-back performances against us at the Amex this season![/p][/quote]Yep I saw what was printed, I just chose to think that this five figure idea is a mistake. The source I quoted has Grabban valued at 875k, Barnes at 1.1million and Tomasz at 1.1 million, I think these three examples are pretty accurate, for this reason I can't think that their valuation of El-Abd can be so far off the mark. If they have him at 875K, and we sold him for 99k or less, then Burke made a very very bad deal.[/p][/quote]Although that website might be in the right ballpark for the players you mentioned, it is generally far less accurate for most players. Although I am surprised at (as seems likely) a five-figure transfer fee for El-Abd, I don't think anyone would rate him at half a million. Ex-pat Arnie

11:53am Fri 17 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Vince wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote: You can look at this sale in a slightly different way. What if the club lets Greer go at the end of this season, would El-Abd have taken his place, honestly I think not, so someone else will, where would that leave Adam? I am of the opinion that with the possible exception of Ward, should we buy him, our back four is going to be totally different come next season. I would guess that Adam worked this out too, why would he not take such a good deal offered by Bristol, he is more secure today than he was yesterday.
Taking it one step further. Today we retain the services of Dunk, with El-Abd going that makes sense. If, as I suspect, we rebuild the back four during the summer, could Upson step down to a role of cover for a new signing, would this not mean that Dunk goes. Bruno, David, Dunk, Calde, and possibly JFC, all look vulnerable for next years squad list.
Total eyewash Vegas!

1. Dunk has yet to prove himself - Adam has nothing to prove - as his defensive work is great, and he formed a rock solid combination with Upson.

2. Bruno has been a revelation recently - his skill and interplay has been a joy to watch - and some of his defensive work has been outstanding - notably in our 3-1 defeat of Leicester by far and away the best Championship side I have seen down here in the last 3 years.

3. Calde always gives 100% and is totally committed to the club. He is a great ambassador for the club, visiting schools and clubs, and has good coaching skills. I can see him remaining with the club for years to come.

4. JFC - as he matures and gets stronger has the potential to be a great mid-field player with astute passing skills and a good shot. He has already demonstrated the ability to ghost into opposition penalty areas and score vital goals. He has been kept out of the side by the form of Ince and Crofts.

5. David is the only player you mentioned who may be vulnerable next season - as he does tend to drift out of games, and is prone to giving the ball away too easily.
well one mans eye wash is another man's opinion.

I am of the opinion that we need a quicker and younger back four, you don't agree, simples. You might note that I said, 'possibly,' JFC, he will struggle to get playing time with us, as you say he is being kept out by Ince and Crofts, the right offer might get him, and it might be better for him. Don't forget I am talking about a squad for next year, not this one.
[quote][p][bold]Vince[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: You can look at this sale in a slightly different way. What if the club lets Greer go at the end of this season, would El-Abd have taken his place, honestly I think not, so someone else will, where would that leave Adam? I am of the opinion that with the possible exception of Ward, should we buy him, our back four is going to be totally different come next season. I would guess that Adam worked this out too, why would he not take such a good deal offered by Bristol, he is more secure today than he was yesterday.[/p][/quote]Taking it one step further. Today we retain the services of Dunk, with El-Abd going that makes sense. If, as I suspect, we rebuild the back four during the summer, could Upson step down to a role of cover for a new signing, would this not mean that Dunk goes. Bruno, David, Dunk, Calde, and possibly JFC, all look vulnerable for next years squad list.[/p][/quote]Total eyewash Vegas! 1. Dunk has yet to prove himself - Adam has nothing to prove - as his defensive work is great, and he formed a rock solid combination with Upson. 2. Bruno has been a revelation recently - his skill and interplay has been a joy to watch - and some of his defensive work has been outstanding - notably in our 3-1 defeat of Leicester by far and away the best Championship side I have seen down here in the last 3 years. 3. Calde always gives 100% and is totally committed to the club. He is a great ambassador for the club, visiting schools and clubs, and has good coaching skills. I can see him remaining with the club for years to come. 4. JFC - as he matures and gets stronger has the potential to be a great mid-field player with astute passing skills and a good shot. He has already demonstrated the ability to ghost into opposition penalty areas and score vital goals. He has been kept out of the side by the form of Ince and Crofts. 5. David is the only player you mentioned who may be vulnerable next season - as he does tend to drift out of games, and is prone to giving the ball away too easily.[/p][/quote]well one mans eye wash is another man's opinion. I am of the opinion that we need a quicker and younger back four, you don't agree, simples. You might note that I said, 'possibly,' JFC, he will struggle to get playing time with us, as you say he is being kept out by Ince and Crofts, the right offer might get him, and it might be better for him. Don't forget I am talking about a squad for next year, not this one. VegasSeagull

11:59am Fri 17 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
WestStander17 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
bhaforever wrote: Anybody know of the fee received?? Or what the sum may have been. Absolutely gutted good luck tug
The transfer market web site values El-Abd at 850K, my guess is that we got around half that sum, maybe a bit more.
Vegas, the report says "an undisclosed five figure fee" so less than £100k. Seems very cheap considering I think we'd all happily have him playing in the Championship without too much concern. Great bit of business by Bristol City.

I'm surprised no other Championship sides wanted him, there have been some pretty ordinary centre-back performances against us at the Amex this season!
Yep I saw what was printed, I just chose to think that this five figure idea is a mistake.
The source I quoted has Grabban valued at 875k, Barnes at 1.1million and Tomasz at 1.1 million, I think these three examples are pretty accurate, for this reason I can't think that their valuation of El-Abd can be so far off the mark.
If they have him at 875K, and we sold him for 99k or less, then Burke made a very very bad deal.
Although that website might be in the right ballpark for the players you mentioned, it is generally far less accurate for most players. Although I am surprised at (as seems likely) a five-figure transfer fee for El-Abd, I don't think anyone would rate him at half a million.
yes that site is not as accurate as it could be but could it be that far out on El-Abd? there is a huge gap between 99k or less and 875k.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WestStander17[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bhaforever[/bold] wrote: Anybody know of the fee received?? Or what the sum may have been. Absolutely gutted good luck tug[/p][/quote]The transfer market web site values El-Abd at 850K, my guess is that we got around half that sum, maybe a bit more.[/p][/quote]Vegas, the report says "an undisclosed five figure fee" so less than £100k. Seems very cheap considering I think we'd all happily have him playing in the Championship without too much concern. Great bit of business by Bristol City. I'm surprised no other Championship sides wanted him, there have been some pretty ordinary centre-back performances against us at the Amex this season![/p][/quote]Yep I saw what was printed, I just chose to think that this five figure idea is a mistake. The source I quoted has Grabban valued at 875k, Barnes at 1.1million and Tomasz at 1.1 million, I think these three examples are pretty accurate, for this reason I can't think that their valuation of El-Abd can be so far off the mark. If they have him at 875K, and we sold him for 99k or less, then Burke made a very very bad deal.[/p][/quote]Although that website might be in the right ballpark for the players you mentioned, it is generally far less accurate for most players. Although I am surprised at (as seems likely) a five-figure transfer fee for El-Abd, I don't think anyone would rate him at half a million.[/p][/quote]yes that site is not as accurate as it could be but could it be that far out on El-Abd? there is a huge gap between 99k or less and 875k. VegasSeagull

9:19am Sat 18 Jan 14

lenward says...

Thanks Adam. Sad to see you go, but good move for you hope it all goes well
at Bristol not a bad town. I bet I know what result you will be looking at saturday evenings. UTA
Thanks Adam. Sad to see you go, but good move for you hope it all goes well at Bristol not a bad town. I bet I know what result you will be looking at saturday evenings. UTA lenward

7:29pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Falmer Wizard says...

Steveg1958 wrote:
Nice comments from TB and Oscar, its very obvious getting immediately dropped for GG last week was the last straw for a dedicated and committed player, Always gave more than 100% and was a good steady defender, no nonsense defending much like Matt Upson.
Unfortunately the same cannot be said of Gordon Greer !, Too casual at times and very suspect distribution unless backwards or sideways passing most of the time. If El Abd isn't good enough GG should be the next.
Could not read a more after you commented" he always gave more than 100%.
[quote][p][bold]Steveg1958[/bold] wrote: Nice comments from TB and Oscar, its very obvious getting immediately dropped for GG last week was the last straw for a dedicated and committed player, Always gave more than 100% and was a good steady defender, no nonsense defending much like Matt Upson. Unfortunately the same cannot be said of Gordon Greer !, Too casual at times and very suspect distribution unless backwards or sideways passing most of the time. If El Abd isn't good enough GG should be the next.[/p][/quote]Could not read a more after you commented" he always gave more than 100%. Falmer Wizard

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