Albion talking point: So now who would you like to see them sign?

The Argus: Oscar has lost key men from his squad Oscar has lost key men from his squad

The Lewis Grabban deal is dead.

Bournemouth’s striker signed a new deal at the Goldsands Stadium today and celebrated by winning and converting a point-saving penalty (although he had a second spot kick saved).

So who would you like to see the Seagulls sign in attack now?

And is that the priority? Or is a midfield replacement for Andrew Crofts, a winger or more central defensive cover top of your wish list?

Let us know your thoughts?


 

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10:02pm Sat 18 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's...

Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.
If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's... Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half. SMF20

10:19pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Far gull says...

SMF20 wrote:
If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's...

Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.
Whilist not saying these are bad options , where is the flair,dare I say it , of the Gus type signings to really get us fans excited,as for all we have taken massive strides forward in ground and infrastructure it will be for nothing without we fill the stadium and inspire us all to turn up each week . Do the guys you mention really do that?
Vicente,Ulloa orlandi,bridge ,Buckley .,cms,Upson ,I could go on are Grabbon ,Mason ,Andrews (who I know we have) etc really doing it for you. Not a criticism just observation.
Oh forgot to say selling Briddcut and that fully of passion el ab ,worth 3 big name players. Sorry just fed up a bit tonight.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's... Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.[/p][/quote]Whilist not saying these are bad options , where is the flair,dare I say it , of the Gus type signings to really get us fans excited,as for all we have taken massive strides forward in ground and infrastructure it will be for nothing without we fill the stadium and inspire us all to turn up each week . Do the guys you mention really do that? Vicente,Ulloa orlandi,bridge ,Buckley .,cms,Upson ,I could go on are Grabbon ,Mason ,Andrews (who I know we have) etc really doing it for you. Not a criticism just observation. Oh forgot to say selling Briddcut and that fully of passion el ab ,worth 3 big name players. Sorry just fed up a bit tonight. Far gull

10:22pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Far gull says...

Far gull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's...

Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.
Whilist not saying these are bad options , where is the flair,dare I say it , of the Gus type signings to really get us fans excited,as for all we have taken massive strides forward in ground and infrastructure it will be for nothing without we fill the stadium and inspire us all to turn up each week . Do the guys you mention really do that?
Vicente,Ulloa orlandi,bridge ,Buckley .,cms,Upson ,I could go on are Grabbon ,Mason ,Andrews (who I know we have) etc really doing it for you. Not a criticism just observation.
Oh forgot to say selling Briddcut and that fully of passion el ab ,worth 3 big name players. Sorry just fed up a bit tonight.
Sorry forgot T Kusack in that list of top signings. These Guys draw in new fans and inspire Kids like my own.
Suits beware.
[quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's... Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.[/p][/quote]Whilist not saying these are bad options , where is the flair,dare I say it , of the Gus type signings to really get us fans excited,as for all we have taken massive strides forward in ground and infrastructure it will be for nothing without we fill the stadium and inspire us all to turn up each week . Do the guys you mention really do that? Vicente,Ulloa orlandi,bridge ,Buckley .,cms,Upson ,I could go on are Grabbon ,Mason ,Andrews (who I know we have) etc really doing it for you. Not a criticism just observation. Oh forgot to say selling Briddcut and that fully of passion el ab ,worth 3 big name players. Sorry just fed up a bit tonight.[/p][/quote]Sorry forgot T Kusack in that list of top signings. These Guys draw in new fans and inspire Kids like my own. Suits beware. Far gull

10:22pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Withdean-er says...

Don't have an encyclopaedic knowledge of players suitable for our needs available in the English Leagues and elsewhere, but hope that our scouting system does.

We desperately need strengthening in the strikers and wingers position. Having pace, proven at this level at least, with the ability to upset defensive systems and give defenders a torrid time. And please not prone to injuries.
Don't have an encyclopaedic knowledge of players suitable for our needs available in the English Leagues and elsewhere, but hope that our scouting system does. We desperately need strengthening in the strikers and wingers position. Having pace, proven at this level at least, with the ability to upset defensive systems and give defenders a torrid time. And please not prone to injuries. Withdean-er

10:26pm Sat 18 Jan 14

SecondReserve says...

In general our defence is OK - 23 conceded in 26 matches is fine. But 30 goals scored in 26 matches says it all. I could come up with some names though I don't know exactly who are realistic targets but we need a quality creative midfielder, a winger who knows how to cross the ball and a genuine goalscoring striker (today demonstrated very clearly yet again that we don't have any of those three at the moment). I suspect we also need a solid experienced centre half.
In general our defence is OK - 23 conceded in 26 matches is fine. But 30 goals scored in 26 matches says it all. I could come up with some names though I don't know exactly who are realistic targets but we need a quality creative midfielder, a winger who knows how to cross the ball and a genuine goalscoring striker (today demonstrated very clearly yet again that we don't have any of those three at the moment). I suspect we also need a solid experienced centre half. SecondReserve

10:26pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Conelli98 says...

Peter Ward
Peter Ward Conelli98

10:28pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Withdean-er says...

Far gull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's...

Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.
Whilist not saying these are bad options , where is the flair,dare I say it , of the Gus type signings to really get us fans excited,as for all we have taken massive strides forward in ground and infrastructure it will be for nothing without we fill the stadium and inspire us all to turn up each week . Do the guys you mention really do that?
Vicente,Ulloa orlandi,bridge ,Buckley .,cms,Upson ,I could go on are Grabbon ,Mason ,Andrews (who I know we have) etc really doing it for you. Not a criticism just observation.
Oh forgot to say selling Briddcut and that fully of passion el ab ,worth 3 big name players. Sorry just fed up a bit tonight.
CMS in that same grouping as Bridge, Kuszchak, Vicente, Orlandi. Astonishing!

He is not good at tucking away chances at Championship level and couldn't lace the boots of those others when it comes to ball control, vision, passing, team awareness.

Don't be swayed by the wasted £3.25m fee. That was no great coup - just a proven body blow to TB who must have vowed since to never again let a team manager have control of transfer dealings.
[quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's... Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.[/p][/quote]Whilist not saying these are bad options , where is the flair,dare I say it , of the Gus type signings to really get us fans excited,as for all we have taken massive strides forward in ground and infrastructure it will be for nothing without we fill the stadium and inspire us all to turn up each week . Do the guys you mention really do that? Vicente,Ulloa orlandi,bridge ,Buckley .,cms,Upson ,I could go on are Grabbon ,Mason ,Andrews (who I know we have) etc really doing it for you. Not a criticism just observation. Oh forgot to say selling Briddcut and that fully of passion el ab ,worth 3 big name players. Sorry just fed up a bit tonight.[/p][/quote]CMS in that same grouping as Bridge, Kuszchak, Vicente, Orlandi. Astonishing! He is not good at tucking away chances at Championship level and couldn't lace the boots of those others when it comes to ball control, vision, passing, team awareness. Don't be swayed by the wasted £3.25m fee. That was no great coup - just a proven body blow to TB who must have vowed since to never again let a team manager have control of transfer dealings. Withdean-er

10:36pm Sat 18 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

Far gull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's...

Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.
Whilist not saying these are bad options , where is the flair,dare I say it , of the Gus type signings to really get us fans excited,as for all we have taken massive strides forward in ground and infrastructure it will be for nothing without we fill the stadium and inspire us all to turn up each week . Do the guys you mention really do that?
Vicente,Ulloa orlandi,bridge ,Buckley .,cms,Upson ,I could go on are Grabbon ,Mason ,Andrews (who I know we have) etc really doing it for you. Not a criticism just observation.
Oh forgot to say selling Briddcut and that fully of passion el ab ,worth 3 big name players. Sorry just fed up a bit tonight.
Are you joking my friend.

Conway was our biggest threat and driving force in the last month of his loan and McCourt absolutely ripped us to bits when Barnsley beat us... I personally think that he is the influential player I've seen against us this season.
[quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's... Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.[/p][/quote]Whilist not saying these are bad options , where is the flair,dare I say it , of the Gus type signings to really get us fans excited,as for all we have taken massive strides forward in ground and infrastructure it will be for nothing without we fill the stadium and inspire us all to turn up each week . Do the guys you mention really do that? Vicente,Ulloa orlandi,bridge ,Buckley .,cms,Upson ,I could go on are Grabbon ,Mason ,Andrews (who I know we have) etc really doing it for you. Not a criticism just observation. Oh forgot to say selling Briddcut and that fully of passion el ab ,worth 3 big name players. Sorry just fed up a bit tonight.[/p][/quote]Are you joking my friend. Conway was our biggest threat and driving force in the last month of his loan and McCourt absolutely ripped us to bits when Barnsley beat us... I personally think that he is the influential player I've seen against us this season. SMF20

10:40pm Sat 18 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

SMF20 wrote:
Far gull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's...

Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.
Whilist not saying these are bad options , where is the flair,dare I say it , of the Gus type signings to really get us fans excited,as for all we have taken massive strides forward in ground and infrastructure it will be for nothing without we fill the stadium and inspire us all to turn up each week . Do the guys you mention really do that?
Vicente,Ulloa orlandi,bridge ,Buckley .,cms,Upson ,I could go on are Grabbon ,Mason ,Andrews (who I know we have) etc really doing it for you. Not a criticism just observation.
Oh forgot to say selling Briddcut and that fully of passion el ab ,worth 3 big name players. Sorry just fed up a bit tonight.
Are you joking my friend.

Conway was our biggest threat and driving force in the last month of his loan and McCourt absolutely ripped us to bits when Barnsley beat us... I personally think that he is the influential player I've seen against us this season.
Each to their own eh... I'd certainly be a happy bunny if we bought these guys, hence listing them.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's... Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.[/p][/quote]Whilist not saying these are bad options , where is the flair,dare I say it , of the Gus type signings to really get us fans excited,as for all we have taken massive strides forward in ground and infrastructure it will be for nothing without we fill the stadium and inspire us all to turn up each week . Do the guys you mention really do that? Vicente,Ulloa orlandi,bridge ,Buckley .,cms,Upson ,I could go on are Grabbon ,Mason ,Andrews (who I know we have) etc really doing it for you. Not a criticism just observation. Oh forgot to say selling Briddcut and that fully of passion el ab ,worth 3 big name players. Sorry just fed up a bit tonight.[/p][/quote]Are you joking my friend. Conway was our biggest threat and driving force in the last month of his loan and McCourt absolutely ripped us to bits when Barnsley beat us... I personally think that he is the influential player I've seen against us this season.[/p][/quote]Each to their own eh... I'd certainly be a happy bunny if we bought these guys, hence listing them. SMF20

10:40pm Sat 18 Jan 14

SecondReserve says...

Totally agree Conelli98, what us older Albion followers would give to have modern day equivalents of Lawrenson, Horton and Ward! They were the key players who got us to the top flight.
Totally agree Conelli98, what us older Albion followers would give to have modern day equivalents of Lawrenson, Horton and Ward! They were the key players who got us to the top flight. SecondReserve

10:40pm Sat 18 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

SMF20 wrote:
Far gull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's...

Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.
Whilist not saying these are bad options , where is the flair,dare I say it , of the Gus type signings to really get us fans excited,as for all we have taken massive strides forward in ground and infrastructure it will be for nothing without we fill the stadium and inspire us all to turn up each week . Do the guys you mention really do that?
Vicente,Ulloa orlandi,bridge ,Buckley .,cms,Upson ,I could go on are Grabbon ,Mason ,Andrews (who I know we have) etc really doing it for you. Not a criticism just observation.
Oh forgot to say selling Briddcut and that fully of passion el ab ,worth 3 big name players. Sorry just fed up a bit tonight.
Are you joking my friend.

Conway was our biggest threat and driving force in the last month of his loan and McCourt absolutely ripped us to bits when Barnsley beat us... I personally think that he is the influential player I've seen against us this season.
Each to their own eh... I'd certainly be a happy bunny if we bought these guys, hence listing them.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's... Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.[/p][/quote]Whilist not saying these are bad options , where is the flair,dare I say it , of the Gus type signings to really get us fans excited,as for all we have taken massive strides forward in ground and infrastructure it will be for nothing without we fill the stadium and inspire us all to turn up each week . Do the guys you mention really do that? Vicente,Ulloa orlandi,bridge ,Buckley .,cms,Upson ,I could go on are Grabbon ,Mason ,Andrews (who I know we have) etc really doing it for you. Not a criticism just observation. Oh forgot to say selling Briddcut and that fully of passion el ab ,worth 3 big name players. Sorry just fed up a bit tonight.[/p][/quote]Are you joking my friend. Conway was our biggest threat and driving force in the last month of his loan and McCourt absolutely ripped us to bits when Barnsley beat us... I personally think that he is the influential player I've seen against us this season.[/p][/quote]Each to their own eh... I'd certainly be a happy bunny if we bought these guys, hence listing them. SMF20

10:41pm Sat 18 Jan 14

blue-eyed-boy says...

Like I posted before, we need players with either a Premier pedigree (ala Upson) or Premier potential, not goodish' Championship ones.
Like I posted before, we need players with either a Premier pedigree (ala Upson) or Premier potential, not goodish' Championship ones. blue-eyed-boy

10:58pm Sat 18 Jan 14

jockithenoo says...

Phillip zulechner Centre forward Austrian bundesleiga ranked 11th in golden shoe/stats( saurez 1st) 15 goals in 20 games contact up in June £800, 000
Oh and Lita is available for £650, 000.
That's just a couple of my thoughts.
WE MARCH ON
UTA
Phillip zulechner Centre forward Austrian bundesleiga ranked 11th in golden shoe/stats( saurez 1st) 15 goals in 20 games contact up in June £800, 000 Oh and Lita is available for £650, 000. That's just a couple of my thoughts. WE MARCH ON UTA jockithenoo

10:59pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Far gull says...

SMF20 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
Far gull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's...

Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.
Whilist not saying these are bad options , where is the flair,dare I say it , of the Gus type signings to really get us fans excited,as for all we have taken massive strides forward in ground and infrastructure it will be for nothing without we fill the stadium and inspire us all to turn up each week . Do the guys you mention really do that?
Vicente,Ulloa orlandi,bridge ,Buckley .,cms,Upson ,I could go on are Grabbon ,Mason ,Andrews (who I know we have) etc really doing it for you. Not a criticism just observation.
Oh forgot to say selling Briddcut and that fully of passion el ab ,worth 3 big name players. Sorry just fed up a bit tonight.
Are you joking my friend.

Conway was our biggest threat and driving force in the last month of his loan and McCourt absolutely ripped us to bits when Barnsley beat us... I personally think that he is the influential player I've seen against us this season.
Each to their own eh... I'd certainly be a happy bunny if we bought these guys, hence listing them.
No probs Smf ,did not want it to sound a dig at you ,but feel our buying policy has changed dramatically in a short space of time and feel prem could now be a few yrs off rather than imminent ,which is ok from where we have come,but feel club having raised expectations are now probably cooling then down a bit to fast,if that makes sense.
I did not mean your choices were bad ,just way below where we were.
If we had offers for Buckley or Kaz are we in a position where we now have to sell because we need the money? If so come clean and tell us ,because right now after this week we are looking vulnerable ,and I think maybe Gus knows better than maybe we all gave him credit for ,hence low offer for Liam who he valued at 5 and Buckley 10 ( laugh) . Just observations.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's... Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.[/p][/quote]Whilist not saying these are bad options , where is the flair,dare I say it , of the Gus type signings to really get us fans excited,as for all we have taken massive strides forward in ground and infrastructure it will be for nothing without we fill the stadium and inspire us all to turn up each week . Do the guys you mention really do that? Vicente,Ulloa orlandi,bridge ,Buckley .,cms,Upson ,I could go on are Grabbon ,Mason ,Andrews (who I know we have) etc really doing it for you. Not a criticism just observation. Oh forgot to say selling Briddcut and that fully of passion el ab ,worth 3 big name players. Sorry just fed up a bit tonight.[/p][/quote]Are you joking my friend. Conway was our biggest threat and driving force in the last month of his loan and McCourt absolutely ripped us to bits when Barnsley beat us... I personally think that he is the influential player I've seen against us this season.[/p][/quote]Each to their own eh... I'd certainly be a happy bunny if we bought these guys, hence listing them.[/p][/quote]No probs Smf ,did not want it to sound a dig at you ,but feel our buying policy has changed dramatically in a short space of time and feel prem could now be a few yrs off rather than imminent ,which is ok from where we have come,but feel club having raised expectations are now probably cooling then down a bit to fast,if that makes sense. I did not mean your choices were bad ,just way below where we were. If we had offers for Buckley or Kaz are we in a position where we now have to sell because we need the money? If so come clean and tell us ,because right now after this week we are looking vulnerable ,and I think maybe Gus knows better than maybe we all gave him credit for ,hence low offer for Liam who he valued at 5 and Buckley 10 ( laugh) . Just observations. Far gull

11:02pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Far gull says...

jockithenoo wrote:
Phillip zulechner Centre forward Austrian bundesleiga ranked 11th in golden shoe/stats( saurez 1st) 15 goals in 20 games contact up in June £800, 000
Oh and Lita is available for £650, 000.
That's just a couple of my thoughts.
WE MARCH ON
UTA
Good positive scouting ,have you applied for mr burke's job?
[quote][p][bold]jockithenoo[/bold] wrote: Phillip zulechner Centre forward Austrian bundesleiga ranked 11th in golden shoe/stats( saurez 1st) 15 goals in 20 games contact up in June £800, 000 Oh and Lita is available for £650, 000. That's just a couple of my thoughts. WE MARCH ON UTA[/p][/quote]Good positive scouting ,have you applied for mr burke's job? Far gull

11:05pm Sat 18 Jan 14

bha3072011 says...

ward on a permanent. conway. splash some cash and get ross mccormack. a young flair midfielder on loan from the premier league
ward on a permanent. conway. splash some cash and get ross mccormack. a young flair midfielder on loan from the premier league bha3072011

11:06pm Sat 18 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

Far gull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
Far gull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's...

Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.
Whilist not saying these are bad options , where is the flair,dare I say it , of the Gus type signings to really get us fans excited,as for all we have taken massive strides forward in ground and infrastructure it will be for nothing without we fill the stadium and inspire us all to turn up each week . Do the guys you mention really do that?
Vicente,Ulloa orlandi,bridge ,Buckley .,cms,Upson ,I could go on are Grabbon ,Mason ,Andrews (who I know we have) etc really doing it for you. Not a criticism just observation.
Oh forgot to say selling Briddcut and that fully of passion el ab ,worth 3 big name players. Sorry just fed up a bit tonight.
Are you joking my friend.

Conway was our biggest threat and driving force in the last month of his loan and McCourt absolutely ripped us to bits when Barnsley beat us... I personally think that he is the influential player I've seen against us this season.
Each to their own eh... I'd certainly be a happy bunny if we bought these guys, hence listing them.
No probs Smf ,did not want it to sound a dig at you ,but feel our buying policy has changed dramatically in a short space of time and feel prem could now be a few yrs off rather than imminent ,which is ok from where we have come,but feel club having raised expectations are now probably cooling then down a bit to fast,if that makes sense.
I did not mean your choices were bad ,just way below where we were.
If we had offers for Buckley or Kaz are we in a position where we now have to sell because we need the money? If so come clean and tell us ,because right now after this week we are looking vulnerable ,and I think maybe Gus knows better than maybe we all gave him credit for ,hence low offer for Liam who he valued at 5 and Buckley 10 ( laugh) . Just observations.
Lots of good points...

It really is a strange old game... The fact we need to even ask if we need to sell because we need the money is beyond crazy given that we have the big attendances and highest prices in the division.

Something doesn't seem to quite stack up.
[quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's... Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.[/p][/quote]Whilist not saying these are bad options , where is the flair,dare I say it , of the Gus type signings to really get us fans excited,as for all we have taken massive strides forward in ground and infrastructure it will be for nothing without we fill the stadium and inspire us all to turn up each week . Do the guys you mention really do that? Vicente,Ulloa orlandi,bridge ,Buckley .,cms,Upson ,I could go on are Grabbon ,Mason ,Andrews (who I know we have) etc really doing it for you. Not a criticism just observation. Oh forgot to say selling Briddcut and that fully of passion el ab ,worth 3 big name players. Sorry just fed up a bit tonight.[/p][/quote]Are you joking my friend. Conway was our biggest threat and driving force in the last month of his loan and McCourt absolutely ripped us to bits when Barnsley beat us... I personally think that he is the influential player I've seen against us this season.[/p][/quote]Each to their own eh... I'd certainly be a happy bunny if we bought these guys, hence listing them.[/p][/quote]No probs Smf ,did not want it to sound a dig at you ,but feel our buying policy has changed dramatically in a short space of time and feel prem could now be a few yrs off rather than imminent ,which is ok from where we have come,but feel club having raised expectations are now probably cooling then down a bit to fast,if that makes sense. I did not mean your choices were bad ,just way below where we were. If we had offers for Buckley or Kaz are we in a position where we now have to sell because we need the money? If so come clean and tell us ,because right now after this week we are looking vulnerable ,and I think maybe Gus knows better than maybe we all gave him credit for ,hence low offer for Liam who he valued at 5 and Buckley 10 ( laugh) . Just observations.[/p][/quote]Lots of good points... It really is a strange old game... The fact we need to even ask if we need to sell because we need the money is beyond crazy given that we have the big attendances and highest prices in the division. Something doesn't seem to quite stack up. SMF20

11:14pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Claude Back says...

Far gull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's...

Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.
Whilist not saying these are bad options , where is the flair,dare I say it , of the Gus type signings to really get us fans excited,as for all we have taken massive strides forward in ground and infrastructure it will be for nothing without we fill the stadium and inspire us all to turn up each week . Do the guys you mention really do that?
Vicente,Ulloa orlandi,bridge ,Buckley .,cms,Upson ,I could go on are Grabbon ,Mason ,Andrews (who I know we have) etc really doing it for you. Not a criticism just observation.
Oh forgot to say selling Briddcut and that fully of passion el ab ,worth 3 big name players. Sorry just fed up a bit tonight.
Agree.
Just shows you what a good judge of a player Gus was generally.
Also what a good manager he is even though a bit defensive and good drive you mad occasionally.
Wish Oscar would sign someone good so we can judge whether he knows a player or not.
Cue thumbs down from the blinkered, ignorant Gus haters.
[quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's... Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.[/p][/quote]Whilist not saying these are bad options , where is the flair,dare I say it , of the Gus type signings to really get us fans excited,as for all we have taken massive strides forward in ground and infrastructure it will be for nothing without we fill the stadium and inspire us all to turn up each week . Do the guys you mention really do that? Vicente,Ulloa orlandi,bridge ,Buckley .,cms,Upson ,I could go on are Grabbon ,Mason ,Andrews (who I know we have) etc really doing it for you. Not a criticism just observation. Oh forgot to say selling Briddcut and that fully of passion el ab ,worth 3 big name players. Sorry just fed up a bit tonight.[/p][/quote]Agree. Just shows you what a good judge of a player Gus was generally. Also what a good manager he is even though a bit defensive and good drive you mad occasionally. Wish Oscar would sign someone good so we can judge whether he knows a player or not. Cue thumbs down from the blinkered, ignorant Gus haters. Claude Back

11:15pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Grendel says...

We need a box to box midfielder, a creative midfielder and a striker.
We need a box to box midfielder, a creative midfielder and a striker. Grendel

11:16pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Alan G Skinner says...

Look to Spain, Spain, Spain!! Time to use those contacts. There are a numberof Spanish clubs who are having to tighten the purse strings at the moment, perhaps we can use this to our advantage.
Look to Spain, Spain, Spain!! Time to use those contacts. There are a numberof Spanish clubs who are having to tighten the purse strings at the moment, perhaps we can use this to our advantage. Alan G Skinner

11:21pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Withdean-er says...

SMF20 wrote:
Far gull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
Far gull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's...

Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.
Whilist not saying these are bad options , where is the flair,dare I say it , of the Gus type signings to really get us fans excited,as for all we have taken massive strides forward in ground and infrastructure it will be for nothing without we fill the stadium and inspire us all to turn up each week . Do the guys you mention really do that?
Vicente,Ulloa orlandi,bridge ,Buckley .,cms,Upson ,I could go on are Grabbon ,Mason ,Andrews (who I know we have) etc really doing it for you. Not a criticism just observation.
Oh forgot to say selling Briddcut and that fully of passion el ab ,worth 3 big name players. Sorry just fed up a bit tonight.
Are you joking my friend.

Conway was our biggest threat and driving force in the last month of his loan and McCourt absolutely ripped us to bits when Barnsley beat us... I personally think that he is the influential player I've seen against us this season.
Each to their own eh... I'd certainly be a happy bunny if we bought these guys, hence listing them.
No probs Smf ,did not want it to sound a dig at you ,but feel our buying policy has changed dramatically in a short space of time and feel prem could now be a few yrs off rather than imminent ,which is ok from where we have come,but feel club having raised expectations are now probably cooling then down a bit to fast,if that makes sense.
I did not mean your choices were bad ,just way below where we were.
If we had offers for Buckley or Kaz are we in a position where we now have to sell because we need the money? If so come clean and tell us ,because right now after this week we are looking vulnerable ,and I think maybe Gus knows better than maybe we all gave him credit for ,hence low offer for Liam who he valued at 5 and Buckley 10 ( laugh) . Just observations.
Lots of good points...

It really is a strange old game... The fact we need to even ask if we need to sell because we need the money is beyond crazy given that we have the big attendances and highest prices in the division.

Something doesn't seem to quite stack up.
Turnover must be as great as the likes of Leeds, Leicester, Forest, Derby, none of whom receive PL parachute monies, but Leicester and Forest have spent fortunes on net transfer spending and wages, giving losses far in excess of ours, and a flagrant breach of FFP rules. It will come out in the wash when they publish their audited results for 2013/14 in early 2015. There will be large financial penalties, but they won't care if they have reached the far more lucrative PL.

We seem to be playing by the rules, and it's biting.

We are also up against a stack of clubs who still receive PL monies includiing Reading, QPR, Burnley, Wigan.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's... Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.[/p][/quote]Whilist not saying these are bad options , where is the flair,dare I say it , of the Gus type signings to really get us fans excited,as for all we have taken massive strides forward in ground and infrastructure it will be for nothing without we fill the stadium and inspire us all to turn up each week . Do the guys you mention really do that? Vicente,Ulloa orlandi,bridge ,Buckley .,cms,Upson ,I could go on are Grabbon ,Mason ,Andrews (who I know we have) etc really doing it for you. Not a criticism just observation. Oh forgot to say selling Briddcut and that fully of passion el ab ,worth 3 big name players. Sorry just fed up a bit tonight.[/p][/quote]Are you joking my friend. Conway was our biggest threat and driving force in the last month of his loan and McCourt absolutely ripped us to bits when Barnsley beat us... I personally think that he is the influential player I've seen against us this season.[/p][/quote]Each to their own eh... I'd certainly be a happy bunny if we bought these guys, hence listing them.[/p][/quote]No probs Smf ,did not want it to sound a dig at you ,but feel our buying policy has changed dramatically in a short space of time and feel prem could now be a few yrs off rather than imminent ,which is ok from where we have come,but feel club having raised expectations are now probably cooling then down a bit to fast,if that makes sense. I did not mean your choices were bad ,just way below where we were. If we had offers for Buckley or Kaz are we in a position where we now have to sell because we need the money? If so come clean and tell us ,because right now after this week we are looking vulnerable ,and I think maybe Gus knows better than maybe we all gave him credit for ,hence low offer for Liam who he valued at 5 and Buckley 10 ( laugh) . Just observations.[/p][/quote]Lots of good points... It really is a strange old game... The fact we need to even ask if we need to sell because we need the money is beyond crazy given that we have the big attendances and highest prices in the division. Something doesn't seem to quite stack up.[/p][/quote]Turnover must be as great as the likes of Leeds, Leicester, Forest, Derby, none of whom receive PL parachute monies, but Leicester and Forest have spent fortunes on net transfer spending and wages, giving losses far in excess of ours, and a flagrant breach of FFP rules. It will come out in the wash when they publish their audited results for 2013/14 in early 2015. There will be large financial penalties, but they won't care if they have reached the far more lucrative PL. We seem to be playing by the rules, and it's biting. We are also up against a stack of clubs who still receive PL monies includiing Reading, QPR, Burnley, Wigan. Withdean-er

11:22pm Sat 18 Jan 14

jockithenoo says...

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11:35pm Sat 18 Jan 14

ballantrrae says...

Grendel wrote:
We need a box to box midfielder, a creative midfielder and a striker.
I would agree but would like to see Conway back plus another CB - someone young for the future with pace. Realistically I think we will do well to get a striker, attacking midfielder and the CB.
Not sure about Mason who wasn't exactly prolific when out on loan recently and he seems slightly over priced at £2 mill especially when figures around £600,000 were being bandied around a few days back.
Pleased we didn't get Grabban. He mucked Crawley about In the summer of 2012 when he suddenly didn't 't sign for them but joined Bournemouth at the last minute.
[quote][p][bold]Grendel[/bold] wrote: We need a box to box midfielder, a creative midfielder and a striker.[/p][/quote]I would agree but would like to see Conway back plus another CB - someone young for the future with pace. Realistically I think we will do well to get a striker, attacking midfielder and the CB. Not sure about Mason who wasn't exactly prolific when out on loan recently and he seems slightly over priced at £2 mill especially when figures around £600,000 were being bandied around a few days back. Pleased we didn't get Grabban. He mucked Crawley about In the summer of 2012 when he suddenly didn't 't sign for them but joined Bournemouth at the last minute. ballantrrae

11:39pm Sat 18 Jan 14

falmer seagull says...

Matty Fryatt good finisher. I now see Bournemouth are bidding for Mason!!!
Matty Fryatt good finisher. I now see Bournemouth are bidding for Mason!!! falmer seagull

11:52pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Claude Back wrote:
Far gull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's...

Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.
Whilist not saying these are bad options , where is the flair,dare I say it , of the Gus type signings to really get us fans excited,as for all we have taken massive strides forward in ground and infrastructure it will be for nothing without we fill the stadium and inspire us all to turn up each week . Do the guys you mention really do that?
Vicente,Ulloa orlandi,bridge ,Buckley .,cms,Upson ,I could go on are Grabbon ,Mason ,Andrews (who I know we have) etc really doing it for you. Not a criticism just observation.
Oh forgot to say selling Briddcut and that fully of passion el ab ,worth 3 big name players. Sorry just fed up a bit tonight.
Agree.
Just shows you what a good judge of a player Gus was generally.
Also what a good manager he is even though a bit defensive and good drive you mad occasionally.
Wish Oscar would sign someone good so we can judge whether he knows a player or not.
Cue thumbs down from the blinkered, ignorant Gus haters.
So you think people give you the thumbs down because they dislike Gus? Interesting...! You know, it COULD just be because people think you are wrong?

And re Gus, he may have found some gems, but you have to sift through a lot of cr@p that he also brought into the club.
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's... Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.[/p][/quote]Whilist not saying these are bad options , where is the flair,dare I say it , of the Gus type signings to really get us fans excited,as for all we have taken massive strides forward in ground and infrastructure it will be for nothing without we fill the stadium and inspire us all to turn up each week . Do the guys you mention really do that? Vicente,Ulloa orlandi,bridge ,Buckley .,cms,Upson ,I could go on are Grabbon ,Mason ,Andrews (who I know we have) etc really doing it for you. Not a criticism just observation. Oh forgot to say selling Briddcut and that fully of passion el ab ,worth 3 big name players. Sorry just fed up a bit tonight.[/p][/quote]Agree. Just shows you what a good judge of a player Gus was generally. Also what a good manager he is even though a bit defensive and good drive you mad occasionally. Wish Oscar would sign someone good so we can judge whether he knows a player or not. Cue thumbs down from the blinkered, ignorant Gus haters.[/p][/quote]So you think people give you the thumbs down because they dislike Gus? Interesting...! You know, it COULD just be because people think you are wrong? And re Gus, he may have found some gems, but you have to sift through a lot of cr@p that he also brought into the club. Ex-pat Arnie

12:12am Sun 19 Jan 14

tonypulis says...

I do find it odd that Oscar Garcia has not tapped into his Spanish and Israeli connections in search of talent. I wonder why that is? Coming from Wales I was always down the local grounds. Picked up some tidy bargains from the likes of Llanelli RFC and Pontypridd RFC.
I do find it odd that Oscar Garcia has not tapped into his Spanish and Israeli connections in search of talent. I wonder why that is? Coming from Wales I was always down the local grounds. Picked up some tidy bargains from the likes of Llanelli RFC and Pontypridd RFC. tonypulis

12:48am Sun 19 Jan 14

Chi Gull says...

Our transfer dealings do seem to have fallen flat since Gus left. I don't think we need Conway if all our wide players stay..and remain mostly fit. If Buckley goes then maybe yes, but Noone is currently rated ahead of him at Cardiff.

We need a forward replacement for Barnes. Technical ability and hard worker plus some goals. Mason is a possible, but I am sure there are better options abroad.

I have always liked Bristol City's Sam Baldock - more an attacking midfield player but scores plenty of goals.

If we get a creative midfielder they have to be a better all round player than what we have i.e. Lopez and Orlandi. None of the above will come cheap, so I can't see us getting much on that list unless Bridcutt goes.

A young promising centre back is also needed.
Our transfer dealings do seem to have fallen flat since Gus left. I don't think we need Conway if all our wide players stay..and remain mostly fit. If Buckley goes then maybe yes, but Noone is currently rated ahead of him at Cardiff. We need a forward replacement for Barnes. Technical ability and hard worker plus some goals. Mason is a possible, but I am sure there are better options abroad. I have always liked Bristol City's Sam Baldock - more an attacking midfield player but scores plenty of goals. If we get a creative midfielder they have to be a better all round player than what we have i.e. Lopez and Orlandi. None of the above will come cheap, so I can't see us getting much on that list unless Bridcutt goes. A young promising centre back is also needed. Chi Gull

1:21am Sun 19 Jan 14

Baldseagull says...

Claude Back wrote:
Far gull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's...

Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.
Whilist not saying these are bad options , where is the flair,dare I say it , of the Gus type signings to really get us fans excited,as for all we have taken massive strides forward in ground and infrastructure it will be for nothing without we fill the stadium and inspire us all to turn up each week . Do the guys you mention really do that?
Vicente,Ulloa orlandi,bridge ,Buckley .,cms,Upson ,I could go on are Grabbon ,Mason ,Andrews (who I know we have) etc really doing it for you. Not a criticism just observation.
Oh forgot to say selling Briddcut and that fully of passion el ab ,worth 3 big name players. Sorry just fed up a bit tonight.
Agree.
Just shows you what a good judge of a player Gus was generally.
Also what a good manager he is even though a bit defensive and good drive you mad occasionally.
Wish Oscar would sign someone good so we can judge whether he knows a player or not.
Cue thumbs down from the blinkered, ignorant Gus haters.
I think shifting Ince from central defence for the development squad, to Midfield for the first team, tells you Oscars ability to spot a players talents are pretty decent.
Having just seen MK Dons first goal against Bristol City I think El-Abd not getting as much time as Greer or Upson looks vindicated also.

Gus brought in some great players but he also made some poor buys, imported Baz and Battipiedi all the way from Argentina, pursued Ryan Harley for a year, Billy Paynter loan, and his worst dealing, underating Murrays worth.
Love what Gus did for us in League 1, respect what he did in the Championship, hate how he behaved near the end.
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's... Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.[/p][/quote]Whilist not saying these are bad options , where is the flair,dare I say it , of the Gus type signings to really get us fans excited,as for all we have taken massive strides forward in ground and infrastructure it will be for nothing without we fill the stadium and inspire us all to turn up each week . Do the guys you mention really do that? Vicente,Ulloa orlandi,bridge ,Buckley .,cms,Upson ,I could go on are Grabbon ,Mason ,Andrews (who I know we have) etc really doing it for you. Not a criticism just observation. Oh forgot to say selling Briddcut and that fully of passion el ab ,worth 3 big name players. Sorry just fed up a bit tonight.[/p][/quote]Agree. Just shows you what a good judge of a player Gus was generally. Also what a good manager he is even though a bit defensive and good drive you mad occasionally. Wish Oscar would sign someone good so we can judge whether he knows a player or not. Cue thumbs down from the blinkered, ignorant Gus haters.[/p][/quote]I think shifting Ince from central defence for the development squad, to Midfield for the first team, tells you Oscars ability to spot a players talents are pretty decent. Having just seen MK Dons first goal against Bristol City I think El-Abd not getting as much time as Greer or Upson looks vindicated also. Gus brought in some great players but he also made some poor buys, imported Baz and Battipiedi all the way from Argentina, pursued Ryan Harley for a year, Billy Paynter loan, and his worst dealing, underating Murrays worth. Love what Gus did for us in League 1, respect what he did in the Championship, hate how he behaved near the end. Baldseagull

1:23am Sun 19 Jan 14

kwaidam says...

Anyone who does not come recommended by jones, barber or some other Burke. Now we know why Gus got fed up. Bloom should act to rid us of the suits and the grave danger that mediocrity is taking over our club. Oscar should be told to find the players he wants. We need a manager to be allowed to manage. Just being a coach is not enough. Players are not stupid,. To allow ash to go, to then sell Adam too, it says everything about what is going on behind the scenes. Frankly, it is a disgrace. We have taken massive steps back in the last fortnight.
Bloom must take decisive action.. He must get rid of Burke. NOW, before he ruins us. Out Burke.
Anyone who does not come recommended by jones, barber or some other Burke. Now we know why Gus got fed up. Bloom should act to rid us of the suits and the grave danger that mediocrity is taking over our club. Oscar should be told to find the players he wants. We need a manager to be allowed to manage. Just being a coach is not enough. Players are not stupid,. To allow ash to go, to then sell Adam too, it says everything about what is going on behind the scenes. Frankly, it is a disgrace. We have taken massive steps back in the last fortnight. Bloom must take decisive action.. He must get rid of Burke. NOW, before he ruins us. Out Burke. kwaidam

1:30am Sun 19 Jan 14

kwaidam says...

The most worrying thing I have seen this season was Leo's body language when subbed against Birmingham. That said all we need to know about how our senior players feel about how they feel and how low morale is because of the lack of ambition and mixed messages coming out of the boardroom. It's going to get worse, I can feel it.
The most worrying thing I have seen this season was Leo's body language when subbed against Birmingham. That said all we need to know about how our senior players feel about how they feel and how low morale is because of the lack of ambition and mixed messages coming out of the boardroom. It's going to get worse, I can feel it. kwaidam

1:36am Sun 19 Jan 14

Baldseagull says...

Wouldn't be a transfer window without mentioning Zamora, so I just have.
He is actually fit again now I believe, but I can't see Harry allowing it even if we could afford it.
I would like to see Conway back, but I think we can cover that role.
Having lost Crofts now on top of Barnes leaving I think we need to get an attacking central midfielder or support striker as the most urgent, I can't see who in the current squad is going to press like Barnes or Crofts.
Wouldn't be a transfer window without mentioning Zamora, so I just have. He is actually fit again now I believe, but I can't see Harry allowing it even if we could afford it. I would like to see Conway back, but I think we can cover that role. Having lost Crofts now on top of Barnes leaving I think we need to get an attacking central midfielder or support striker as the most urgent, I can't see who in the current squad is going to press like Barnes or Crofts. Baldseagull

1:38am Sun 19 Jan 14

tug509 says...

If were serious ,Connor Wickham.
If were serious ,Connor Wickham. tug509

1:45am Sun 19 Jan 14

kwaidam says...

Baldseagull wrote:
Wouldn't be a transfer window without mentioning Zamora, so I just have.
He is actually fit again now I believe, but I can't see Harry allowing it even if we could afford it.
I would like to see Conway back, but I think we can cover that role.
Having lost Crofts now on top of Barnes leaving I think we need to get an attacking central midfielder or support striker as the most urgent, I can't see who in the current squad is going to press like Barnes or Crofts.
Burke or barber would never sanction us getting bobby back... We are only in the market for mediocrity now.... Agustin, Obika, Andrews, there's three for you for starters.... We had something about us under Gus.... And excitement with guys like Vicente.... Now we are a nothing team.
[quote][p][bold]Baldseagull[/bold] wrote: Wouldn't be a transfer window without mentioning Zamora, so I just have. He is actually fit again now I believe, but I can't see Harry allowing it even if we could afford it. I would like to see Conway back, but I think we can cover that role. Having lost Crofts now on top of Barnes leaving I think we need to get an attacking central midfielder or support striker as the most urgent, I can't see who in the current squad is going to press like Barnes or Crofts.[/p][/quote]Burke or barber would never sanction us getting bobby back... We are only in the market for mediocrity now.... Agustin, Obika, Andrews, there's three for you for starters.... We had something about us under Gus.... And excitement with guys like Vicente.... Now we are a nothing team. kwaidam

1:53am Sun 19 Jan 14

Baldseagull says...

kwaidam wrote:
The most worrying thing I have seen this season was Leo's body language when subbed against Birmingham. That said all we need to know about how our senior players feel about how they feel and how low morale is because of the lack of ambition and mixed messages coming out of the boardroom. It's going to get worse, I can feel it.
All that says is how he felt about coming off. This season was always going to be tough with Gus leaving the way he did, Oscar has done well to keep us in touch with the leaders with all the upheaval and injuries on top of that.
We have signed Ince up on a longer contract, we have brought in a lad for development that has a chance of coming through for next season or maybe even before the season is out.
The bad news is Barnes gone, and Bridcutt unsettled at the moment. El-Abd, as much as I love him, is no great loss, Grabban not signing is a blessing, I think we will now find someone of better value.
[quote][p][bold]kwaidam[/bold] wrote: The most worrying thing I have seen this season was Leo's body language when subbed against Birmingham. That said all we need to know about how our senior players feel about how they feel and how low morale is because of the lack of ambition and mixed messages coming out of the boardroom. It's going to get worse, I can feel it.[/p][/quote]All that says is how he felt about coming off. This season was always going to be tough with Gus leaving the way he did, Oscar has done well to keep us in touch with the leaders with all the upheaval and injuries on top of that. We have signed Ince up on a longer contract, we have brought in a lad for development that has a chance of coming through for next season or maybe even before the season is out. The bad news is Barnes gone, and Bridcutt unsettled at the moment. El-Abd, as much as I love him, is no great loss, Grabban not signing is a blessing, I think we will now find someone of better value. Baldseagull

2:10am Sun 19 Jan 14

kwaidam says...

Baldseagull wrote:
kwaidam wrote:
The most worrying thing I have seen this season was Leo's body language when subbed against Birmingham. That said all we need to know about how our senior players feel about how they feel and how low morale is because of the lack of ambition and mixed messages coming out of the boardroom. It's going to get worse, I can feel it.
All that says is how he felt about coming off. This season was always going to be tough with Gus leaving the way he did, Oscar has done well to keep us in touch with the leaders with all the upheaval and injuries on top of that.
We have signed Ince up on a longer contract, we have brought in a lad for development that has a chance of coming through for next season or maybe even before the season is out.
The bad news is Barnes gone, and Bridcutt unsettled at the moment. El-Abd, as much as I love him, is no great loss, Grabban not signing is a blessing, I think we will now find someone of better value.
Good response, bald seagull. I just feel things are wrong somewhere. But I note your comments and do agree. Oscar has done a fantastic job, I just feel he is not getting the support. Agree totally about grab an. But why on earth were we even in for him? That is the question. It says a lot about our current state.
[quote][p][bold]Baldseagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kwaidam[/bold] wrote: The most worrying thing I have seen this season was Leo's body language when subbed against Birmingham. That said all we need to know about how our senior players feel about how they feel and how low morale is because of the lack of ambition and mixed messages coming out of the boardroom. It's going to get worse, I can feel it.[/p][/quote]All that says is how he felt about coming off. This season was always going to be tough with Gus leaving the way he did, Oscar has done well to keep us in touch with the leaders with all the upheaval and injuries on top of that. We have signed Ince up on a longer contract, we have brought in a lad for development that has a chance of coming through for next season or maybe even before the season is out. The bad news is Barnes gone, and Bridcutt unsettled at the moment. El-Abd, as much as I love him, is no great loss, Grabban not signing is a blessing, I think we will now find someone of better value.[/p][/quote]Good response, bald seagull. I just feel things are wrong somewhere. But I note your comments and do agree. Oscar has done a fantastic job, I just feel he is not getting the support. Agree totally about grab an. But why on earth were we even in for him? That is the question. It says a lot about our current state. kwaidam

4:18am Sun 19 Jan 14

Vancouver Canuck says...

"Sky Sports understands Bournemouth have made a bid for Cardiff City forward Joe Mason. Bolton are also keen on Mason after he spent a successful loan spell at the Reebok Stadium, but Bournemouth are hoping to win the race for his signature." Oh dear - looks like we've lost another one to the Cherries.
"Sky Sports understands Bournemouth have made a bid for Cardiff City forward Joe Mason. Bolton are also keen on Mason after he spent a successful loan spell at the Reebok Stadium, but Bournemouth are hoping to win the race for his signature." Oh dear - looks like we've lost another one to the Cherries. Vancouver Canuck

4:37am Sun 19 Jan 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

Oh cheer up everyone... at least we're not Portsmuff fans! .

Seriously though, when we signed Oscar as our coach-come-manager I think everyone expected some influence from him in the transfer market and some exciting quasi-Barca signings. We now seem to be a club who looks no further than the end of their nose for new blood. Good grief, I could come up with some more exciting prospects from over here (and they would be dirt cheap too!!!)
Oh cheer up everyone... at least we're not Portsmuff fans! [I wonder if there are any left now??]. Seriously though, when we signed Oscar as our coach-come-manager I think everyone expected some influence from him in the transfer market and some exciting quasi-Barca signings. We now seem to be a club who looks no further than the end of their nose for new blood. Good grief, I could come up with some more exciting prospects from over here (and they would be dirt cheap too!!!) Singing Seagull, Indonesia

5:43am Sun 19 Jan 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Oh cheer up everyone... at least we're not Portsmuff fans! .

Seriously though, when we signed Oscar as our coach-come-manager I think everyone expected some influence from him in the transfer market and some exciting quasi-Barca signings. We now seem to be a club who looks no further than the end of their nose for new blood. Good grief, I could come up with some more exciting prospects from over here (and they would be dirt cheap too!!!)
And preempting any calls to put my money where my mouth is, check out this lad for the DS. If he can do this in the pitches here I can certainly see him running riot on the Amex turf in a couple of years from now. Perhaps Mr Burkewould like a look at this one before a big club inevitably takes him? Contacts anyone? And with 20,000 Indonesian Rupiah to the pound, like many things over here, believe me, he would be good value and a great deal more appreciative than some prima donnas that we have courted recently!

Enjoy...


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[quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: Oh cheer up everyone... at least we're not Portsmuff fans! [I wonder if there are any left now??]. Seriously though, when we signed Oscar as our coach-come-manager I think everyone expected some influence from him in the transfer market and some exciting quasi-Barca signings. We now seem to be a club who looks no further than the end of their nose for new blood. Good grief, I could come up with some more exciting prospects from over here (and they would be dirt cheap too!!!)[/p][/quote]And preempting any calls to put my money where my mouth is, check out this lad for the DS. If he can do this in the pitches here I can certainly see him running riot on the Amex turf in a couple of years from now. Perhaps Mr Burkewould like a look at this one before a big club inevitably takes him? Contacts anyone? And with 20,000 Indonesian Rupiah to the pound, like many things over here, believe me, he would be good value and a great deal more appreciative than some prima donnas that we have courted recently! Enjoy... https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=zvO6cTuM xSs&feature=youtube_ gdata_player Singing Seagull, Indonesia

8:27am Sun 19 Jan 14

northstand4 says...

SMF20 wrote:
Far gull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
Far gull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's...

Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.
Whilist not saying these are bad options , where is the flair,dare I say it , of the Gus type signings to really get us fans excited,as for all we have taken massive strides forward in ground and infrastructure it will be for nothing without we fill the stadium and inspire us all to turn up each week . Do the guys you mention really do that?
Vicente,Ulloa orlandi,bridge ,Buckley .,cms,Upson ,I could go on are Grabbon ,Mason ,Andrews (who I know we have) etc really doing it for you. Not a criticism just observation.
Oh forgot to say selling Briddcut and that fully of passion el ab ,worth 3 big name players. Sorry just fed up a bit tonight.
Are you joking my friend.

Conway was our biggest threat and driving force in the last month of his loan and McCourt absolutely ripped us to bits when Barnsley beat us... I personally think that he is the influential player I've seen against us this season.
Each to their own eh... I'd certainly be a happy bunny if we bought these guys, hence listing them.
No probs Smf ,did not want it to sound a dig at you ,but feel our buying policy has changed dramatically in a short space of time and feel prem could now be a few yrs off rather than imminent ,which is ok from where we have come,but feel club having raised expectations are now probably cooling then down a bit to fast,if that makes sense.
I did not mean your choices were bad ,just way below where we were.
If we had offers for Buckley or Kaz are we in a position where we now have to sell because we need the money? If so come clean and tell us ,because right now after this week we are looking vulnerable ,and I think maybe Gus knows better than maybe we all gave him credit for ,hence low offer for Liam who he valued at 5 and Buckley 10 ( laugh) . Just observations.
Lots of good points...

It really is a strange old game... The fact we need to even ask if we need to sell because we need the money is beyond crazy given that we have the big attendances and highest prices in the division.

Something doesn't seem to quite stack up.
SMF20
Are we not also paying TB back long term for the Amex and training facilities? I've been assuming this is the case, hence why our buying/paying power falls a little short of others at times.
I thing we'll get Conway, a striker and a CB before the window shuts, let's just get that 5/6th spot!!
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's... Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.[/p][/quote]Whilist not saying these are bad options , where is the flair,dare I say it , of the Gus type signings to really get us fans excited,as for all we have taken massive strides forward in ground and infrastructure it will be for nothing without we fill the stadium and inspire us all to turn up each week . Do the guys you mention really do that? Vicente,Ulloa orlandi,bridge ,Buckley .,cms,Upson ,I could go on are Grabbon ,Mason ,Andrews (who I know we have) etc really doing it for you. Not a criticism just observation. Oh forgot to say selling Briddcut and that fully of passion el ab ,worth 3 big name players. Sorry just fed up a bit tonight.[/p][/quote]Are you joking my friend. Conway was our biggest threat and driving force in the last month of his loan and McCourt absolutely ripped us to bits when Barnsley beat us... I personally think that he is the influential player I've seen against us this season.[/p][/quote]Each to their own eh... I'd certainly be a happy bunny if we bought these guys, hence listing them.[/p][/quote]No probs Smf ,did not want it to sound a dig at you ,but feel our buying policy has changed dramatically in a short space of time and feel prem could now be a few yrs off rather than imminent ,which is ok from where we have come,but feel club having raised expectations are now probably cooling then down a bit to fast,if that makes sense. I did not mean your choices were bad ,just way below where we were. If we had offers for Buckley or Kaz are we in a position where we now have to sell because we need the money? If so come clean and tell us ,because right now after this week we are looking vulnerable ,and I think maybe Gus knows better than maybe we all gave him credit for ,hence low offer for Liam who he valued at 5 and Buckley 10 ( laugh) . Just observations.[/p][/quote]Lots of good points... It really is a strange old game... The fact we need to even ask if we need to sell because we need the money is beyond crazy given that we have the big attendances and highest prices in the division. Something doesn't seem to quite stack up.[/p][/quote]SMF20 Are we not also paying TB back long term for the Amex and training facilities? I've been assuming this is the case, hence why our buying/paying power falls a little short of others at times. I thing we'll get Conway, a striker and a CB before the window shuts, let's just get that 5/6th spot!! northstand4

8:33am Sun 19 Jan 14

B rian Tawses left foot says...

Burke or barber would never sanction us getting bobby back... We are only in the market for mediocrity now.... Agustin, Obika, Andrews, there's three for you for starters.... We had something about us under Gus.... And excitement with guys like Vicente.... Now we are a nothing team.

Total tripe ! We are one place outside the play offs - better placed than last season. What's wrong with you people? The club has never been in better shape - on or off the pitch. All of those hankering after the 'Gus days' - look at the premier league table - Sunderland are still in the relegation zone, and in my view likely to stay there. The truth is this giant egotist is nowhere as good as he thinks he is.
Burke or barber would never sanction us getting bobby back... We are only in the market for mediocrity now.... Agustin, Obika, Andrews, there's three for you for starters.... We had something about us under Gus.... And excitement with guys like Vicente.... Now we are a nothing team. Total tripe ! We are one place outside the play offs - better placed than last season. What's wrong with you people? The club has never been in better shape - on or off the pitch. All of those hankering after the 'Gus days' - look at the premier league table - Sunderland are still in the relegation zone, and in my view likely to stay there. The truth is this giant egotist is nowhere as good as he thinks he is. B rian Tawses left foot

12:09pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Andrea Orlandigasm says...

Warren Aspinall (Albion scout) said on BBC Sussex yesterday that Cardiff want £2.5 million for Joe Mason. Obviously it's not his decision but Warren thought that was too much. Mind you, he also didn't rate Adam le Fondre when he scouted ALF at Rotherham a couple of years ago.
Warren Aspinall (Albion scout) said on BBC Sussex yesterday that Cardiff want £2.5 million for Joe Mason. Obviously it's not his decision but Warren thought that was too much. Mind you, he also didn't rate Adam le Fondre when he scouted ALF at Rotherham a couple of years ago. Andrea Orlandigasm

12:25pm Sun 19 Jan 14

pjwilk says...

We could buy Barnes for £1.5million.
We could buy Barnes for £1.5million. pjwilk

12:28pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Stop panicking some of you out there in squeaky bum land.
It's still all to play for this season but we need to get some influential players in, in the next 12 days or get those we have to up their game. I would also say that we need to change tactics somewhat.
Last season Gus seemed to be too defensive and the same seems to be afflicting Oscar now. When he came here Oscar spoke of attacking teams until it hurt them. But we're not doing it.
It's disappointing that we failed to get a player from Bournemouth of all clubs (no disrespect) and now they appear to be in for one of our targets. What have our scouting/recruitment people been doing for the last 3 weeks fgs.
We should also not have let AB go before we had a cast iron replacement already lined up.
We don't need a CB because Lewis Dunk can cover that and I see him as a regular next year if he bucks his ideas up. What we need is an attacking midfielder and a CF to take the pressure of Leo. CMS could be the answer but we can't rely on that because we need to ease him in gently. I also look forward to Will Hoskins getting back in the frame but it's too late for this season.
It's about time we also signed a few Oscar targets because most we are looking at are players who have worked with Jones or have put in a good performance against us in the last few weeks (LG).
That's got it off my chest but even I might start panicking if we fail to come up with something in the next 12 days. UTA
Stop panicking some of you out there in squeaky bum land. It's still all to play for this season but we need to get some influential players in, in the next 12 days or get those we have to up their game. I would also say that we need to change tactics somewhat. Last season Gus seemed to be too defensive and the same seems to be afflicting Oscar now. When he came here Oscar spoke of attacking teams until it hurt them. But we're not doing it. It's disappointing that we failed to get a player from Bournemouth of all clubs (no disrespect) and now they appear to be in for one of our targets. What have our scouting/recruitment people been doing for the last 3 weeks fgs. We should also not have let AB go before we had a cast iron replacement already lined up. We don't need a CB because Lewis Dunk can cover that and I see him as a regular next year if he bucks his ideas up. What we need is an attacking midfielder and a CF to take the pressure of Leo. CMS could be the answer but we can't rely on that because we need to ease him in gently. I also look forward to Will Hoskins getting back in the frame but it's too late for this season. It's about time we also signed a few Oscar targets because most we are looking at are players who have worked with Jones or have put in a good performance against us in the last few weeks (LG). That's got it off my chest but even I might start panicking if we fail to come up with something in the next 12 days. UTA Joel'sGrandad

5:36pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Withdean-er says...

northstand4 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
Far gull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
Far gull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's...

Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.
Whilist not saying these are bad options , where is the flair,dare I say it , of the Gus type signings to really get us fans excited,as for all we have taken massive strides forward in ground and infrastructure it will be for nothing without we fill the stadium and inspire us all to turn up each week . Do the guys you mention really do that?
Vicente,Ulloa orlandi,bridge ,Buckley .,cms,Upson ,I could go on are Grabbon ,Mason ,Andrews (who I know we have) etc really doing it for you. Not a criticism just observation.
Oh forgot to say selling Briddcut and that fully of passion el ab ,worth 3 big name players. Sorry just fed up a bit tonight.
Are you joking my friend.

Conway was our biggest threat and driving force in the last month of his loan and McCourt absolutely ripped us to bits when Barnsley beat us... I personally think that he is the influential player I've seen against us this season.
Each to their own eh... I'd certainly be a happy bunny if we bought these guys, hence listing them.
No probs Smf ,did not want it to sound a dig at you ,but feel our buying policy has changed dramatically in a short space of time and feel prem could now be a few yrs off rather than imminent ,which is ok from where we have come,but feel club having raised expectations are now probably cooling then down a bit to fast,if that makes sense.
I did not mean your choices were bad ,just way below where we were.
If we had offers for Buckley or Kaz are we in a position where we now have to sell because we need the money? If so come clean and tell us ,because right now after this week we are looking vulnerable ,and I think maybe Gus knows better than maybe we all gave him credit for ,hence low offer for Liam who he valued at 5 and Buckley 10 ( laugh) . Just observations.
Lots of good points...

It really is a strange old game... The fact we need to even ask if we need to sell because we need the money is beyond crazy given that we have the big attendances and highest prices in the division.

Something doesn't seem to quite stack up.
SMF20
Are we not also paying TB back long term for the Amex and training facilities? I've been assuming this is the case, hence why our buying/paying power falls a little short of others at times.
I thing we'll get Conway, a striker and a CB before the window shuts, let's just get that 5/6th spot!!
No, TB has NOT been repaid in the slightest.
The reverse - his interest free director's loan to the club continues to grow as he pays for Lancing and £8m club losses per annum for each of the Poyet era years. Poyets was given a licence to spend money we didn't really have on transfer fees and player wages eg paying Peterborough £3.25m and being great payers to the likes of CMS, Buckley, Vicente.
[quote][p][bold]northstand4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: If we have £1m from Barnes, el abd and the 2 DS lads and get a further 3 for my fallen hero, then for me it's... Mason, Conway, McCourt, and a decent centre half.[/p][/quote]Whilist not saying these are bad options , where is the flair,dare I say it , of the Gus type signings to really get us fans excited,as for all we have taken massive strides forward in ground and infrastructure it will be for nothing without we fill the stadium and inspire us all to turn up each week . Do the guys you mention really do that? Vicente,Ulloa orlandi,bridge ,Buckley .,cms,Upson ,I could go on are Grabbon ,Mason ,Andrews (who I know we have) etc really doing it for you. Not a criticism just observation. Oh forgot to say selling Briddcut and that fully of passion el ab ,worth 3 big name players. Sorry just fed up a bit tonight.[/p][/quote]Are you joking my friend. Conway was our biggest threat and driving force in the last month of his loan and McCourt absolutely ripped us to bits when Barnsley beat us... I personally think that he is the influential player I've seen against us this season.[/p][/quote]Each to their own eh... I'd certainly be a happy bunny if we bought these guys, hence listing them.[/p][/quote]No probs Smf ,did not want it to sound a dig at you ,but feel our buying policy has changed dramatically in a short space of time and feel prem could now be a few yrs off rather than imminent ,which is ok from where we have come,but feel club having raised expectations are now probably cooling then down a bit to fast,if that makes sense. I did not mean your choices were bad ,just way below where we were. If we had offers for Buckley or Kaz are we in a position where we now have to sell because we need the money? If so come clean and tell us ,because right now after this week we are looking vulnerable ,and I think maybe Gus knows better than maybe we all gave him credit for ,hence low offer for Liam who he valued at 5 and Buckley 10 ( laugh) . Just observations.[/p][/quote]Lots of good points... It really is a strange old game... The fact we need to even ask if we need to sell because we need the money is beyond crazy given that we have the big attendances and highest prices in the division. Something doesn't seem to quite stack up.[/p][/quote]SMF20 Are we not also paying TB back long term for the Amex and training facilities? I've been assuming this is the case, hence why our buying/paying power falls a little short of others at times. I thing we'll get Conway, a striker and a CB before the window shuts, let's just get that 5/6th spot!![/p][/quote]No, TB has NOT been repaid in the slightest. The reverse - his interest free director's loan to the club continues to grow as he pays for Lancing and £8m club losses per annum for each of the Poyet era years. Poyets was given a licence to spend money we didn't really have on transfer fees and player wages eg paying Peterborough £3.25m and being great payers to the likes of CMS, Buckley, Vicente. Withdean-er

8:17pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Hovite says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
Stop panicking some of you out there in squeaky bum land.
It's still all to play for this season but we need to get some influential players in, in the next 12 days or get those we have to up their game. I would also say that we need to change tactics somewhat.
Last season Gus seemed to be too defensive and the same seems to be afflicting Oscar now. When he came here Oscar spoke of attacking teams until it hurt them. But we're not doing it.
It's disappointing that we failed to get a player from Bournemouth of all clubs (no disrespect) and now they appear to be in for one of our targets. What have our scouting/recruitment people been doing for the last 3 weeks fgs.
We should also not have let AB go before we had a cast iron replacement already lined up.
We don't need a CB because Lewis Dunk can cover that and I see him as a regular next year if he bucks his ideas up. What we need is an attacking midfielder and a CF to take the pressure of Leo. CMS could be the answer but we can't rely on that because we need to ease him in gently. I also look forward to Will Hoskins getting back in the frame but it's too late for this season.
It's about time we also signed a few Oscar targets because most we are looking at are players who have worked with Jones or have put in a good performance against us in the last few weeks (LG).
That's got it off my chest but even I might start panicking if we fail to come up with something in the next 12 days. UTA
We had no choice of pacey attacking wingers in yesterday's game so it's got nothing to do with tactics. If Kaz and Buckley were fit it would have been a very different game.

Derby were the home team and we made them look ordinary despite us having to pick a weakened starting 11.
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: Stop panicking some of you out there in squeaky bum land. It's still all to play for this season but we need to get some influential players in, in the next 12 days or get those we have to up their game. I would also say that we need to change tactics somewhat. Last season Gus seemed to be too defensive and the same seems to be afflicting Oscar now. When he came here Oscar spoke of attacking teams until it hurt them. But we're not doing it. It's disappointing that we failed to get a player from Bournemouth of all clubs (no disrespect) and now they appear to be in for one of our targets. What have our scouting/recruitment people been doing for the last 3 weeks fgs. We should also not have let AB go before we had a cast iron replacement already lined up. We don't need a CB because Lewis Dunk can cover that and I see him as a regular next year if he bucks his ideas up. What we need is an attacking midfielder and a CF to take the pressure of Leo. CMS could be the answer but we can't rely on that because we need to ease him in gently. I also look forward to Will Hoskins getting back in the frame but it's too late for this season. It's about time we also signed a few Oscar targets because most we are looking at are players who have worked with Jones or have put in a good performance against us in the last few weeks (LG). That's got it off my chest but even I might start panicking if we fail to come up with something in the next 12 days. UTA[/p][/quote]We had no choice of pacey attacking wingers in yesterday's game so it's got nothing to do with tactics. If Kaz and Buckley were fit it would have been a very different game. Derby were the home team and we made them look ordinary despite us having to pick a weakened starting 11. Hovite

11:12pm Sun 19 Jan 14

albion64 says...

pjwilk wrote:
We could buy Barnes for £1.5million.
John Barnes?
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: We could buy Barnes for £1.5million.[/p][/quote]John Barnes? albion64

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