Albion Talkback: Adams deserves only cheers, not jeers

The Argus: Micky Adams. Port Vale's former Albion boss is worthy of a rousing reception. Micky Adams. Port Vale's former Albion boss is worthy of a rousing reception.

Something unusual happened at Selhurst Park last Saturday.

A manager received a rousing reception from both sets of supporters.

Tony Pulis took Stoke into the Premier League, to an FA Cup final and into Europe during his second spell at Stoke.

The away fans saluted him before and even after his Crystal Palace team had beaten Stoke.

I hope something similar happens - with a different result - a short distance from Stoke this Saturday when Albion visit their Potteries neighbours Port Vale in the fourth round of the FA Cup.

Some of the younger Seagulls supporters making the journey to Vale Park may be oblivious to the significant part played by Vale chief Micky Adams when he was in charge of Albion.

The gritty little Yorkshireman was the starting point for the club's on-field revival.

Adams, running Nottingham Forest's reserves at the time, was the man former chairman Dick Knight turned to in the dying embers of the despised groundshare with Gillingham to deliver a transformation in fortunes.

He did not disappoint. Albion's homecoming at Withdean coincided with Adams lifting them from the bottom end of League Two to the title and the top end of League One before he departed to be reunited with Dave Bassett at Leicester, then a Premier League club.

The team Peter Taylor took over and steered into the Championship by winning League One as well the following season was not his but the one Adams assembled.

In contrast to Pulis at Stoke, it did not work out second time around for Adams at Albion. The club had changed and Knight's influence had waned.

Adams has kept his own counsel over how it all ended but is less than impressed by Knight's version of events in his recently published autobiography.

Deep down inside he will be as desperate to beat Albion as Pulis would have been to beat Stoke.

Even if the Seagulls are dumped out by Vale it ought not to prevent supporters acknowledging the role played by Adams in where the club is today.

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3:09pm Thu 23 Jan 14

farside says...

I will applaud him for sure. Remember the first coming fondly but hard to forget the second nor acceptable to lay the fault at Dick Knight's door no matter how typically abstemious with the facts he might have been.
I will applaud him for sure. Remember the first coming fondly but hard to forget the second nor acceptable to lay the fault at Dick Knight's door no matter how typically abstemious with the facts he might have been. farside

3:32pm Thu 23 Jan 14

twonk says...

Please stop telling supporters how to behave.
Please stop telling supporters how to behave. twonk

3:38pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Ryecroft says...

Micky Adams a legend !!
Good luck to Port Vale in the League .
Micky Adams a legend !! Good luck to Port Vale in the League . Ryecroft

3:42pm Thu 23 Jan 14

EastWorthingExocetMissile says...

This article is a major re-write of history, if ever I heard one. We gave Mickey Adams a really good oppurtunity from nowhere when he came he first came to the club and he then walked out on us when we top of the league. Then the second time he came was knights biggest mistake at the expense of dean Wilkins who could really spot talent. ( Murray, Hammond etc).This article fails to mention any of that.
Tony published was unfairly in my opinion sacked by Stoke, he never walked out on them, despite him probably taken them as far as they could go. Totally different and not like for like at all.
This article is a major re-write of history, if ever I heard one. We gave Mickey Adams a really good oppurtunity from nowhere when he came he first came to the club and he then walked out on us when we top of the league. Then the second time he came was knights biggest mistake at the expense of dean Wilkins who could really spot talent. ( Murray, Hammond etc).This article fails to mention any of that. Tony published was unfairly in my opinion sacked by Stoke, he never walked out on them, despite him probably taken them as far as they could go. Totally different and not like for like at all. EastWorthingExocetMissile

4:25pm Thu 23 Jan 14

mickagull says...

All part of the football merry-go-round, this will mean we'll be applauding an ex player or manager every week. How many games do you play in a season when our don't paths don't cross an opponent with a link to the Albion?Answers on a postcard please.
All part of the football merry-go-round, this will mean we'll be applauding an ex player or manager every week. How many games do you play in a season when our don't paths don't cross an opponent with a link to the Albion?Answers on a postcard please. mickagull

4:42pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Albion In Staffs says...

The piece is headlined: 'Albion Talkback' so am I to assume this is a regular comment column in the print edition of the paper?
If so, Andy is entitled to voice an opinion in such a piece, but it seems strange that it's then been uploaded as a "news" item on the website because (perhaps unintentionally) it comes across as an instruction to supporters.
Also, the article suggests that Mickey has 'kept his counsel' on Dick's version of certain events but 'is less than impressed'. Really? Well if you know, just tell us why, otherwise don't mention it because it sounds like you're doing a mate a favour but aren't allowed to say so....
The piece is headlined: 'Albion Talkback' so am I to assume this is a regular comment column in the print edition of the paper? If so, Andy is entitled to voice an opinion in such a piece, but it seems strange that it's then been uploaded as a "news" item on the website because (perhaps unintentionally) it comes across as an instruction to supporters. Also, the article suggests that Mickey has 'kept his counsel' on Dick's version of certain events but 'is less than impressed'. Really? Well if you know, just tell us why, otherwise don't mention it because it sounds like you're doing a mate a favour but aren't allowed to say so.... Albion In Staffs

4:53pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit says...

mickagull wrote:
All part of the football merry-go-round, this will mean we'll be applauding an ex player or manager every week. How many games do you play in a season when our don't paths don't cross an opponent with a link to the Albion?Answers on a postcard please.
Well not that many, when was the last one? You make it sound like it happens every game. And Adams IS special, the article doesn't mention that, when he was no longer connected to the Albion, he joined at least one of the stadium protest marches along the seafront. It was protesting at the LibDem conference iirc.

That being said EastWorthingExocetMi
ssile does have a point, but if I were going on Saturday I would definitely cheer him for what he did for us,
[quote][p][bold]mickagull[/bold] wrote: All part of the football merry-go-round, this will mean we'll be applauding an ex player or manager every week. How many games do you play in a season when our don't paths don't cross an opponent with a link to the Albion?Answers on a postcard please.[/p][/quote]Well not that many, when was the last one? You make it sound like it happens every game. And Adams IS special, the article doesn't mention that, when he was no longer connected to the Albion, he joined at least one of the stadium protest marches along the seafront. It was protesting at the LibDem conference iirc. That being said EastWorthingExocetMi ssile does have a point, but if I were going on Saturday I would definitely cheer him for what he did for us, Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit

5:09pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

Give him a cheer, then beat the hell out of his team...
Give him a cheer, then beat the hell out of his team... Willie, Willie Irvine

5:42pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Shaftesbury Seagull says...

I first saw Adams in the eighties when the Albion visited Hull, where I then lived. He saluted the away supporters as if he meant it. I had never seen it done in as apparently genuine a way before, and only rarely seen it since. Body language is a curious thing. Tells you a lot about a man.
I first saw Adams in the eighties when the Albion visited Hull, where I then lived. He saluted the away supporters as if he meant it. I had never seen it done in as apparently genuine a way before, and only rarely seen it since. Body language is a curious thing. Tells you a lot about a man. Shaftesbury Seagull

5:55pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Clean Sheet says...

Adam's first stint at our club was a fantastic time. he produced a very effective team. I was sorry to lose him, and welcomed him back for his second stint, which was very poor. He appeared to have lost something, as was too close to the players IMHO. Anyway, that nis all history, and he deserves to be thanked and recognised for his first stint.
Adam's first stint at our club was a fantastic time. he produced a very effective team. I was sorry to lose him, and welcomed him back for his second stint, which was very poor. He appeared to have lost something, as was too close to the players IMHO. Anyway, that nis all history, and he deserves to be thanked and recognised for his first stint. Clean Sheet

6:17pm Thu 23 Jan 14

impose our game gull says...

Are we buying anybody? 7 days to go minus weekends

When CMS is back could you have the long hair version please!!??

I recall Mickey had a nice Merc and for sure did some good work

UTA!!
Are we buying anybody? 7 days to go minus weekends When CMS is back could you have the long hair version please!!?? I recall Mickey had a nice Merc and for sure did some good work UTA!! impose our game gull

7:12pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Baldseagull says...

Respect will be shown to Mr Adams, I don't think anyone would have jeered him.
Naylor writing this piece implies that he thinks it a likely possibility that we would jeer him, which gets up my nose a bit.
Clearly Naylor got on well with Adams and was pleased as punch when Wilkins, who Naylor clearly did not get along with, was ousted to make way for Mickey's Messianic return.
The fact that Adams went on to serve up the worst football I have ever seen played by any Albion side, week after week, does not give me or any other Albion fan any reason to boo him.
He lost his job, because he was failing, no one thought he wasn't trying, we just needed him to go.
No one dislikes Adams, he should not have come back in the way that he did, but most people were as sad for him as us that it had not worked out, even if, like me, they thought it was a shocking decision by Knight, in so many ways, to oust Wilkins.
Respect will be shown to Mr Adams, I don't think anyone would have jeered him. Naylor writing this piece implies that he thinks it a likely possibility that we would jeer him, which gets up my nose a bit. Clearly Naylor got on well with Adams and was pleased as punch when Wilkins, who Naylor clearly did not get along with, was ousted to make way for Mickey's Messianic return. The fact that Adams went on to serve up the worst football I have ever seen played by any Albion side, week after week, does not give me or any other Albion fan any reason to boo him. He lost his job, because he was failing, no one thought he wasn't trying, we just needed him to go. No one dislikes Adams, he should not have come back in the way that he did, but most people were as sad for him as us that it had not worked out, even if, like me, they thought it was a shocking decision by Knight, in so many ways, to oust Wilkins. Baldseagull

7:26pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Baldseagull wrote:
Respect will be shown to Mr Adams, I don't think anyone would have jeered him.
Naylor writing this piece implies that he thinks it a likely possibility that we would jeer him, which gets up my nose a bit.
Clearly Naylor got on well with Adams and was pleased as punch when Wilkins, who Naylor clearly did not get along with, was ousted to make way for Mickey's Messianic return.
The fact that Adams went on to serve up the worst football I have ever seen played by any Albion side, week after week, does not give me or any other Albion fan any reason to boo him.
He lost his job, because he was failing, no one thought he wasn't trying, we just needed him to go.
No one dislikes Adams, he should not have come back in the way that he did, but most people were as sad for him as us that it had not worked out, even if, like me, they thought it was a shocking decision by Knight, in so many ways, to oust Wilkins.
I don't think Naylor is suggesting anyone will boo or jeer, just that some will not acknowledge him in any way.
[quote][p][bold]Baldseagull[/bold] wrote: Respect will be shown to Mr Adams, I don't think anyone would have jeered him. Naylor writing this piece implies that he thinks it a likely possibility that we would jeer him, which gets up my nose a bit. Clearly Naylor got on well with Adams and was pleased as punch when Wilkins, who Naylor clearly did not get along with, was ousted to make way for Mickey's Messianic return. The fact that Adams went on to serve up the worst football I have ever seen played by any Albion side, week after week, does not give me or any other Albion fan any reason to boo him. He lost his job, because he was failing, no one thought he wasn't trying, we just needed him to go. No one dislikes Adams, he should not have come back in the way that he did, but most people were as sad for him as us that it had not worked out, even if, like me, they thought it was a shocking decision by Knight, in so many ways, to oust Wilkins.[/p][/quote]I don't think Naylor is suggesting anyone will boo or jeer, just that some will not acknowledge him in any way. Ex-pat Arnie

7:33pm Thu 23 Jan 14

starlion says...

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8:31pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Some Football fans have the unhappy knack of ignoring the good and concentrating on the bad.
In our case it's booing anyone who has been associated with CP or a previous manager or player who wasn't perceived to have done well for us.
There may well be a few idiots who boo Micky Adams but most Albion fans are reasonable people and will give him good applause. There may well be a song or two.
I find it odd that Mr Naylor finds it in his heart to nudge us in the right direction. It's not necessary .
I think Micky Adams will get a standing ovation as I hope Gus would if he ever came back to the Amex. UTA
Some Football fans have the unhappy knack of ignoring the good and concentrating on the bad. In our case it's booing anyone who has been associated with CP or a previous manager or player who wasn't perceived to have done well for us. There may well be a few idiots who boo Micky Adams but most Albion fans are reasonable people and will give him good applause. There may well be a song or two. I find it odd that Mr Naylor finds it in his heart to nudge us in the right direction. It's not necessary . I think Micky Adams will get a standing ovation as I hope Gus would if he ever came back to the Amex. UTA Joel'sGrandad

9:13pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Baldseagull says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Baldseagull wrote:
Respect will be shown to Mr Adams, I don't think anyone would have jeered him.
Naylor writing this piece implies that he thinks it a likely possibility that we would jeer him, which gets up my nose a bit.
Clearly Naylor got on well with Adams and was pleased as punch when Wilkins, who Naylor clearly did not get along with, was ousted to make way for Mickey's Messianic return.
The fact that Adams went on to serve up the worst football I have ever seen played by any Albion side, week after week, does not give me or any other Albion fan any reason to boo him.
He lost his job, because he was failing, no one thought he wasn't trying, we just needed him to go.
No one dislikes Adams, he should not have come back in the way that he did, but most people were as sad for him as us that it had not worked out, even if, like me, they thought it was a shocking decision by Knight, in so many ways, to oust Wilkins.
I don't think Naylor is suggesting anyone will boo or jeer, just that some will not acknowledge him in any way.
Maybe, but he should have left the word Jeer out of his headline in that case.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baldseagull[/bold] wrote: Respect will be shown to Mr Adams, I don't think anyone would have jeered him. Naylor writing this piece implies that he thinks it a likely possibility that we would jeer him, which gets up my nose a bit. Clearly Naylor got on well with Adams and was pleased as punch when Wilkins, who Naylor clearly did not get along with, was ousted to make way for Mickey's Messianic return. The fact that Adams went on to serve up the worst football I have ever seen played by any Albion side, week after week, does not give me or any other Albion fan any reason to boo him. He lost his job, because he was failing, no one thought he wasn't trying, we just needed him to go. No one dislikes Adams, he should not have come back in the way that he did, but most people were as sad for him as us that it had not worked out, even if, like me, they thought it was a shocking decision by Knight, in so many ways, to oust Wilkins.[/p][/quote]I don't think Naylor is suggesting anyone will boo or jeer, just that some will not acknowledge him in any way.[/p][/quote]Maybe, but he should have left the word Jeer out of his headline in that case. Baldseagull

11:06pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Baldseagull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Baldseagull wrote:
Respect will be shown to Mr Adams, I don't think anyone would have jeered him.
Naylor writing this piece implies that he thinks it a likely possibility that we would jeer him, which gets up my nose a bit.
Clearly Naylor got on well with Adams and was pleased as punch when Wilkins, who Naylor clearly did not get along with, was ousted to make way for Mickey's Messianic return.
The fact that Adams went on to serve up the worst football I have ever seen played by any Albion side, week after week, does not give me or any other Albion fan any reason to boo him.
He lost his job, because he was failing, no one thought he wasn't trying, we just needed him to go.
No one dislikes Adams, he should not have come back in the way that he did, but most people were as sad for him as us that it had not worked out, even if, like me, they thought it was a shocking decision by Knight, in so many ways, to oust Wilkins.
I don't think Naylor is suggesting anyone will boo or jeer, just that some will not acknowledge him in any way.
Maybe, but he should have left the word Jeer out of his headline in that case.
But Naylor doesn't write the headlines, that's the sub-editor's job.
[quote][p][bold]Baldseagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baldseagull[/bold] wrote: Respect will be shown to Mr Adams, I don't think anyone would have jeered him. Naylor writing this piece implies that he thinks it a likely possibility that we would jeer him, which gets up my nose a bit. Clearly Naylor got on well with Adams and was pleased as punch when Wilkins, who Naylor clearly did not get along with, was ousted to make way for Mickey's Messianic return. The fact that Adams went on to serve up the worst football I have ever seen played by any Albion side, week after week, does not give me or any other Albion fan any reason to boo him. He lost his job, because he was failing, no one thought he wasn't trying, we just needed him to go. No one dislikes Adams, he should not have come back in the way that he did, but most people were as sad for him as us that it had not worked out, even if, like me, they thought it was a shocking decision by Knight, in so many ways, to oust Wilkins.[/p][/quote]I don't think Naylor is suggesting anyone will boo or jeer, just that some will not acknowledge him in any way.[/p][/quote]Maybe, but he should have left the word Jeer out of his headline in that case.[/p][/quote]But Naylor doesn't write the headlines, that's the sub-editor's job. Ex-pat Arnie

6:19am Fri 24 Jan 14

WestStander17 says...

Micky should get a great reception from the Albion fans. He took us to back-to-back promotions (I know Peter Taylor finished off the 2nd one but it was Micky's team).

That team he put together wasn't pretty to watch at times but they were a nightmare to play against! Nearly all 6ft+ and liked a battle. Cullip, Oatway, Freeman, Crosby etc were not to be messed with! Of course, the final piece of the jigsaw was Zamora up top who took the chances that came his way more often than not, allowing the rest to do what they did best - be well organised and difficult to break down.

Our style of Football has come on leaps and bounds since then but its a great example of how very different styles of the game we love can both be successful and bring about lots of memorable moments.

Obviously, I hope we beat Micky's team tomorrow but will always wish him well wherever he plies his trade.
Micky should get a great reception from the Albion fans. He took us to back-to-back promotions (I know Peter Taylor finished off the 2nd one but it was Micky's team). That team he put together wasn't pretty to watch at times but they were a nightmare to play against! Nearly all 6ft+ and liked a battle. Cullip, Oatway, Freeman, Crosby etc were not to be messed with! Of course, the final piece of the jigsaw was Zamora up top who took the chances that came his way more often than not, allowing the rest to do what they did best - be well organised and difficult to break down. Our style of Football has come on leaps and bounds since then but its a great example of how very different styles of the game we love can both be successful and bring about lots of memorable moments. Obviously, I hope we beat Micky's team tomorrow but will always wish him well wherever he plies his trade. WestStander17

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