Transfer window watch: Bridcutt could be in demand (Updated)

Liam Bridcutt. Premier League interest could hot up as the transfer window begins to close.

Liam Bridcutt. Premier League interest could hot up as the transfer window begins to close.

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Albion are gearing themselves up for a potential Premier League bidding war for Liam Bridcutt in the final week of the January transfer window.

Sunderland remain favourites to reach an agreement with the Seagulls over the want-away midfielder, who is keen to be reunited with former Albion boss Gus Poyet at the Stadium of Light.

Bridcutt has also been monitored previously by the likes of Swansea, Norwich and Fulham, so Poyet could face competition for his No.1 January target.

Bridcutt, who had a transfer request turned down earlier this month, is unlikely to be involved again in Albion's FA Cup tie at Port Vale tomorrow.

He missed last Saturday's defeat at Derby because he was not in the right frame of mind to play.

Fellow midfielder Keith Andrews said: "It hasn't been nice for anybody, the club, Liam, the way it's been dealt with.

"Obviously there's issues with the former manager trying to get him and bits and bobs like that, so it's been a little bit unsavoury I suppose.

"We'll know by next Friday night waht's going to happen. If he doesn't go he'll have to crack on until the end of the season and if he does go I'm sure he will leave with everybody's best wishes.

"Liam has been very good for this football club and equally the football club has been very good for Liam."

Sunderland had bids of £2 million for Bridcutt and around £1.75 million for Albion winger Will Buckley rejected at the beginning of the January window.

Buckley, now being linked with the Seagulls' arch-rivals Crystal Palace, is less likely to feature against Vale than the fit-again Kazenga LuaLua.

Buckley was not scheduled to resume training until yesterday after four weeks out with a recurrence of hamstring trouble. LuaLua, who sat out the Derby defeat with a minor hamstring problem, was back in training earlier in the week.

Albion assistant Nathan Jones, asked this morning about Buckley and LuaLua, said: "It might be a little bit soon for one of them."

 

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11:03am Fri 24 Jan 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Not surprised Liam is on other club's radar although I'm sure he only has eyes for Gus. Could push the transfer price up though. Hopefully this will get sorted soon for the sake of all concerned. UTA
Not surprised Liam is on other club's radar although I'm sure he only has eyes for Gus. Could push the transfer price up though. Hopefully this will get sorted soon for the sake of all concerned. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 14

11:04am Fri 24 Jan 14

farside says...

Shaun Williams from MKDons having a medical and bid in for Chris Burke from Birmingham. ......stories currently doing the rounds
Shaun Williams from MKDons having a medical and bid in for Chris Burke from Birmingham. ......stories currently doing the rounds farside
  • Score: 3

11:04am Fri 24 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

A bidding war will do for me....

The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him.

Uta
A bidding war will do for me.... The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him. Uta SMF20
  • Score: 15

11:07am Fri 24 Jan 14

farside says...

Swansea bid for Bridcutt rumoured to be £3m.
Where would you choose to go if you were him?
Swansea bid for Bridcutt rumoured to be £3m. Where would you choose to go if you were him? farside
  • Score: 8

11:24am Fri 24 Jan 14

albion64 says...

SMF20 wrote:
A bidding war will do for me....

The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him.

Uta
Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans.

Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: A bidding war will do for me.... The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him. Uta[/p][/quote]Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans. Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA albion64
  • Score: 12

11:26am Fri 24 Jan 14

Gee Jay says...

It is good that more Premiership clubs have shown interest, it can only push the final price up.
But I am sure he will rejoin Gus at Sunderland.
I would be more disappointed if Will Buckley went to Palace.
Maybe this will all trigger a more exciting signing for the Albion.
It is good that more Premiership clubs have shown interest, it can only push the final price up. But I am sure he will rejoin Gus at Sunderland. I would be more disappointed if Will Buckley went to Palace. Maybe this will all trigger a more exciting signing for the Albion. Gee Jay
  • Score: 19

11:29am Fri 24 Jan 14

dave from bexill says...

farside wrote:
Swansea bid for Bridcutt rumoured to be £3m.
Where would you choose to go if you were him?
Sunderland
[quote][p][bold]farside[/bold] wrote: Swansea bid for Bridcutt rumoured to be £3m. Where would you choose to go if you were him?[/p][/quote]Sunderland dave from bexill
  • Score: 2

11:32am Fri 24 Jan 14

dave from bexill says...

albion64 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
A bidding war will do for me....

The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him.

Uta
Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans.

Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA
You need to get over all this bitterness and anger, and move on albion64. Life's to short
[quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: A bidding war will do for me.... The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him. Uta[/p][/quote]Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans. Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA[/p][/quote]You need to get over all this bitterness and anger, and move on albion64. Life's to short dave from bexill
  • Score: 15

11:51am Fri 24 Jan 14

Alfie T says...

dave from bexill wrote:
farside wrote:
Swansea bid for Bridcutt rumoured to be £3m.
Where would you choose to go if you were him?
Sunderland
Barcelona :-)
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]farside[/bold] wrote: Swansea bid for Bridcutt rumoured to be £3m. Where would you choose to go if you were him?[/p][/quote]Sunderland[/p][/quote]Barcelona :-) Alfie T
  • Score: 8

11:59am Fri 24 Jan 14

Claude Back says...

albion64 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
A bidding war will do for me....

The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him.

Uta
Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans.

Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA
You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'.
Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too.
G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator.
So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.
[quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: A bidding war will do for me.... The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him. Uta[/p][/quote]Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans. Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA[/p][/quote]You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'. Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too. G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator. So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong. Claude Back
  • Score: 1

12:04pm Fri 24 Jan 14

magicmenagerie says...

I am amazed at the Gus Poyet hate on here. You're not fans of the Albion if that's how you feel. He built us a great footballing team and got very close to the Premier League. Team was a joy to watch. Proper football. No, the end was not pretty - endings rarely are - but grow up a bit and take a balanced view - he was good for us, we were good for him, things move on. Take the hate away, it's ugly and actually rather childish.
I am amazed at the Gus Poyet hate on here. You're not fans of the Albion if that's how you feel. He built us a great footballing team and got very close to the Premier League. Team was a joy to watch. Proper football. No, the end was not pretty - endings rarely are - but grow up a bit and take a balanced view - he was good for us, we were good for him, things move on. Take the hate away, it's ugly and actually rather childish. magicmenagerie
  • Score: 27

12:12pm Fri 24 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Having other prem clubs possibly in for Bridcutt should help the price go up but it might also cause a problem.
What if Swansea, Norwich or Fulham do table a bid at 3 million or more, or at least a price we would sell at, but then Bridcutt says no Sunderland is where I want to be, but Sunderland have been out bid. Would that see the lad with his head not in the right frame of mind for the rest of the season?
Having other prem clubs possibly in for Bridcutt should help the price go up but it might also cause a problem. What if Swansea, Norwich or Fulham do table a bid at 3 million or more, or at least a price we would sell at, but then Bridcutt says no Sunderland is where I want to be, but Sunderland have been out bid. Would that see the lad with his head not in the right frame of mind for the rest of the season? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

12:40pm Fri 24 Jan 14

brightonup says...

I am not entirely comfortable with Bridcutt (or any of our other 'star' players) joining Sunderland, I am still a little 'raw' about Poyet's behaviour, although I wish Sunderland (and Bridcutt) well!
However, the point about Bridcutt wishing to join only Sunderland is s good one. He might end up playing in a Wembley final, mightn't he? Or is he cup tied? Also he was Poyet's protege at the Albion - so it all makes good sense!
I am not entirely comfortable with Bridcutt (or any of our other 'star' players) joining Sunderland, I am still a little 'raw' about Poyet's behaviour, although I wish Sunderland (and Bridcutt) well! However, the point about Bridcutt wishing to join only Sunderland is s good one. He might end up playing in a Wembley final, mightn't he? Or is he cup tied? Also he was Poyet's protege at the Albion - so it all makes good sense! brightonup
  • Score: 1

12:46pm Fri 24 Jan 14

realist2012 says...

brightonup wrote:
I am not entirely comfortable with Bridcutt (or any of our other 'star' players) joining Sunderland, I am still a little 'raw' about Poyet's behaviour, although I wish Sunderland (and Bridcutt) well! However, the point about Bridcutt wishing to join only Sunderland is s good one. He might end up playing in a Wembley final, mightn't he? Or is he cup tied? Also he was Poyet's protege at the Albion - so it all makes good sense!
He is cup tied, he came on as a late sub against Newport
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: I am not entirely comfortable with Bridcutt (or any of our other 'star' players) joining Sunderland, I am still a little 'raw' about Poyet's behaviour, although I wish Sunderland (and Bridcutt) well! However, the point about Bridcutt wishing to join only Sunderland is s good one. He might end up playing in a Wembley final, mightn't he? Or is he cup tied? Also he was Poyet's protege at the Albion - so it all makes good sense![/p][/quote]He is cup tied, he came on as a late sub against Newport realist2012
  • Score: 2

12:47pm Fri 24 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

brightonup wrote:
I am not entirely comfortable with Bridcutt (or any of our other 'star' players) joining Sunderland, I am still a little 'raw' about Poyet's behaviour, although I wish Sunderland (and Bridcutt) well!
However, the point about Bridcutt wishing to join only Sunderland is s good one. He might end up playing in a Wembley final, mightn't he? Or is he cup tied? Also he was Poyet's protege at the Albion - so it all makes good sense!
It does make sense but if any one of the other three clubs reportedly interested out bid Poyet, and he fails to match the bid, then the lad won't be going to Sunderland. Brighton are not obliged to accept a lower bid, and if Bridders doesn't want to go anywhere but Sunderland, he declines other's advances, he stays with us, right frame of mind or not.
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: I am not entirely comfortable with Bridcutt (or any of our other 'star' players) joining Sunderland, I am still a little 'raw' about Poyet's behaviour, although I wish Sunderland (and Bridcutt) well! However, the point about Bridcutt wishing to join only Sunderland is s good one. He might end up playing in a Wembley final, mightn't he? Or is he cup tied? Also he was Poyet's protege at the Albion - so it all makes good sense![/p][/quote]It does make sense but if any one of the other three clubs reportedly interested out bid Poyet, and he fails to match the bid, then the lad won't be going to Sunderland. Brighton are not obliged to accept a lower bid, and if Bridders doesn't want to go anywhere but Sunderland, he declines other's advances, he stays with us, right frame of mind or not. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

12:49pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Brightony says...

I think Gus GP got his managerial career off to a great start with Brighton - I don't know anyone who could deny how good a job he did for us (except maybe Vicente!) However, if he really wanted to hurt Brighton he couldn't do better than take our best player(s) from us for a bargain price at the end of the January transfer window when there's no time to splash the cash on suitable replacements for the rest of the season and it really looks like that could happen. His interest in LB has already caused (IMHO) major disruption to the squad and deprived us of our best player for the past month without GP spending a pound - if he does lure him away right at the end of the window he will go down immensely in my opinion. Oscar's doing fine - we're not much worse off at this point in the season than we were last season despite all the mega setbacks he's had to deal with - lacks charisma perhaps but makes up for it with calm solidity. My main concern for this season though is that there's a lot of experience leaving and only talented youth arriving. When this club if fully formed next year with Lancing up and running and great young players (that want to be here) training under a stable management that's when we'll be really challenging for the Premiership.
I think Gus GP got his managerial career off to a great start with Brighton - I don't know anyone who could deny how good a job he did for us (except maybe Vicente!) However, if he really wanted to hurt Brighton he couldn't do better than take our best player(s) from us for a bargain price at the end of the January transfer window when there's no time to splash the cash on suitable replacements for the rest of the season and it really looks like that could happen. His interest in LB has already caused (IMHO) major disruption to the squad and deprived us of our best player for the past month without GP spending a pound - if he does lure him away right at the end of the window he will go down immensely in my opinion. Oscar's doing fine - we're not much worse off at this point in the season than we were last season despite all the mega setbacks he's had to deal with - lacks charisma perhaps but makes up for it with calm solidity. My main concern for this season though is that there's a lot of experience leaving and only talented youth arriving. When this club if fully formed next year with Lancing up and running and great young players (that want to be here) training under a stable management that's when we'll be really challenging for the Premiership. Brightony
  • Score: 14

12:51pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Chi Gull says...

If Liam goes, I just hope we have our plans in place to spend the dosh. The Club has had long enough to think about it. The same goes for Buckley.

I am with Claude re. Gus. The positives he brought to our club far outweigh any negatives and he seems to be doing a fantastic job at Sunderland and has all the fans on his side. OG lacks a bit of passion and he isn't as confident as Gus with his spoken english so we don't hear enough from him directly. Can't argue with the job he has done so far, but the next few weeks will decide whether he is taking the club forwards or if we have stalled.
If Liam goes, I just hope we have our plans in place to spend the dosh. The Club has had long enough to think about it. The same goes for Buckley. I am with Claude re. Gus. The positives he brought to our club far outweigh any negatives and he seems to be doing a fantastic job at Sunderland and has all the fans on his side. OG lacks a bit of passion and he isn't as confident as Gus with his spoken english so we don't hear enough from him directly. Can't argue with the job he has done so far, but the next few weeks will decide whether he is taking the club forwards or if we have stalled. Chi Gull
  • Score: 1

12:53pm Fri 24 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Brightony wrote:
I think Gus GP got his managerial career off to a great start with Brighton - I don't know anyone who could deny how good a job he did for us (except maybe Vicente!) However, if he really wanted to hurt Brighton he couldn't do better than take our best player(s) from us for a bargain price at the end of the January transfer window when there's no time to splash the cash on suitable replacements for the rest of the season and it really looks like that could happen. His interest in LB has already caused (IMHO) major disruption to the squad and deprived us of our best player for the past month without GP spending a pound - if he does lure him away right at the end of the window he will go down immensely in my opinion. Oscar's doing fine - we're not much worse off at this point in the season than we were last season despite all the mega setbacks he's had to deal with - lacks charisma perhaps but makes up for it with calm solidity. My main concern for this season though is that there's a lot of experience leaving and only talented youth arriving. When this club if fully formed next year with Lancing up and running and great young players (that want to be here) training under a stable management that's when we'll be really challenging for the Premiership.
But Poyet only gets his targets if we agree to sell, I would guess that very late bids will be rejected no matter who they are from or for.
[quote][p][bold]Brightony[/bold] wrote: I think Gus GP got his managerial career off to a great start with Brighton - I don't know anyone who could deny how good a job he did for us (except maybe Vicente!) However, if he really wanted to hurt Brighton he couldn't do better than take our best player(s) from us for a bargain price at the end of the January transfer window when there's no time to splash the cash on suitable replacements for the rest of the season and it really looks like that could happen. His interest in LB has already caused (IMHO) major disruption to the squad and deprived us of our best player for the past month without GP spending a pound - if he does lure him away right at the end of the window he will go down immensely in my opinion. Oscar's doing fine - we're not much worse off at this point in the season than we were last season despite all the mega setbacks he's had to deal with - lacks charisma perhaps but makes up for it with calm solidity. My main concern for this season though is that there's a lot of experience leaving and only talented youth arriving. When this club if fully formed next year with Lancing up and running and great young players (that want to be here) training under a stable management that's when we'll be really challenging for the Premiership.[/p][/quote]But Poyet only gets his targets if we agree to sell, I would guess that very late bids will be rejected no matter who they are from or for. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

1:01pm Fri 24 Jan 14

fanxtony says...

I'm sure Tony Bloom will do the best he can .... Liam has to go for sure .... anyway I don't see him setting the premiership alight .... look at Andrew Crofts and Elliot Bennett .... but good luck to him tho ..... I would be more than happy to have another play off finish ..... but no point in goin up only to come straight back down ..... it's not easy to get established in premiership .... Southampton doing it so not impossible ..... be nice to get to Wembley again! ..... (playoffs or FA cup) .... lol ..... UTA
I'm sure Tony Bloom will do the best he can .... Liam has to go for sure .... anyway I don't see him setting the premiership alight .... look at Andrew Crofts and Elliot Bennett .... but good luck to him tho ..... I would be more than happy to have another play off finish ..... but no point in goin up only to come straight back down ..... it's not easy to get established in premiership .... Southampton doing it so not impossible ..... be nice to get to Wembley again! ..... (playoffs or FA cup) .... lol ..... UTA fanxtony
  • Score: 3

1:06pm Fri 24 Jan 14

and another thing.... says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
brightonup wrote:
I am not entirely comfortable with Bridcutt (or any of our other 'star' players) joining Sunderland, I am still a little 'raw' about Poyet's behaviour, although I wish Sunderland (and Bridcutt) well!
However, the point about Bridcutt wishing to join only Sunderland is s good one. He might end up playing in a Wembley final, mightn't he? Or is he cup tied? Also he was Poyet's protege at the Albion - so it all makes good sense!
It does make sense but if any one of the other three clubs reportedly interested out bid Poyet, and he fails to match the bid, then the lad won't be going to Sunderland. Brighton are not obliged to accept a lower bid, and if Bridders doesn't want to go anywhere but Sunderland, he declines other's advances, he stays with us, right frame of mind or not.
Right!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: I am not entirely comfortable with Bridcutt (or any of our other 'star' players) joining Sunderland, I am still a little 'raw' about Poyet's behaviour, although I wish Sunderland (and Bridcutt) well! However, the point about Bridcutt wishing to join only Sunderland is s good one. He might end up playing in a Wembley final, mightn't he? Or is he cup tied? Also he was Poyet's protege at the Albion - so it all makes good sense![/p][/quote]It does make sense but if any one of the other three clubs reportedly interested out bid Poyet, and he fails to match the bid, then the lad won't be going to Sunderland. Brighton are not obliged to accept a lower bid, and if Bridders doesn't want to go anywhere but Sunderland, he declines other's advances, he stays with us, right frame of mind or not.[/p][/quote]Right! and another thing....
  • Score: 3

1:07pm Fri 24 Jan 14

mrgull says...

I just wonder....seeing as Oscar has little to do with signing prospective new players....will he have a big say in the selling of current players
I just wonder....seeing as Oscar has little to do with signing prospective new players....will he have a big say in the selling of current players mrgull
  • Score: 0

1:11pm Fri 24 Jan 14

falmer seagull says...

Wes Hoolahan plus cash from Norwich would be my preferred choice. but I do not think that it will happen! Becchio another possibility, with twin 'Argies' up front could be a partnership made in heaven?
Wes Hoolahan plus cash from Norwich would be my preferred choice. but I do not think that it will happen! Becchio another possibility, with twin 'Argies' up front could be a partnership made in heaven? falmer seagull
  • Score: 4

1:14pm Fri 24 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

mrgull wrote:
I just wonder....seeing as Oscar has little to do with signing prospective new players....will he have a big say in the selling of current players
if you check out yesterday's comments, we pretty much done your assumption and question to death.
[quote][p][bold]mrgull[/bold] wrote: I just wonder....seeing as Oscar has little to do with signing prospective new players....will he have a big say in the selling of current players[/p][/quote]if you check out yesterday's comments, we pretty much done your assumption and question to death. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -3

1:14pm Fri 24 Jan 14

sussexram40 says...

Gus is a genius. A brilliant manager. Just look how he has transformed the Black Cats in a few months. It's sad we lost him and gained an uninspirational figure.
In reality Gus was always destined for the top level and it's no surprise he got itchy feet at the Albion and wanted a move.
Gus is a genius. A brilliant manager. Just look how he has transformed the Black Cats in a few months. It's sad we lost him and gained an uninspirational figure. In reality Gus was always destined for the top level and it's no surprise he got itchy feet at the Albion and wanted a move. sussexram40
  • Score: -31

1:19pm Fri 24 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

sussexram40 wrote:
Gus is a genius. A brilliant manager. Just look how he has transformed the Black Cats in a few months. It's sad we lost him and gained an uninspirational figure.
In reality Gus was always destined for the top level and it's no surprise he got itchy feet at the Albion and wanted a move.
what didn't you go with him?
[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: Gus is a genius. A brilliant manager. Just look how he has transformed the Black Cats in a few months. It's sad we lost him and gained an uninspirational figure. In reality Gus was always destined for the top level and it's no surprise he got itchy feet at the Albion and wanted a move.[/p][/quote]what didn't you go with him? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 12

1:27pm Fri 24 Jan 14

DuncanThickett says...

I think Liam going is a definite, but Buckley to Palarse? They can do one!
I think Liam going is a definite, but Buckley to Palarse? They can do one! DuncanThickett
  • Score: 3

1:33pm Fri 24 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

DuncanThickett wrote:
I think Liam going is a definite, but Buckley to Palarse? They can do one!
I wonder which is of a greater desire to Bridcutt, play at prem level anywhere, go to the highest bidder, or to link up with Poyet again no matter what.
[quote][p][bold]DuncanThickett[/bold] wrote: I think Liam going is a definite, but Buckley to Palarse? They can do one![/p][/quote]I wonder which is of a greater desire to Bridcutt, play at prem level anywhere, go to the highest bidder, or to link up with Poyet again no matter what. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

1:36pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

sussexram40 wrote:
Gus is a genius. A brilliant manager. Just look how he has transformed the Black Cats in a few months. It's sad we lost him and gained an uninspirational figure.
In reality Gus was always destined for the top level and it's no surprise he got itchy feet at the Albion and wanted a move.
All Gus has done so far is shown what a poor manager Di Canio was. That squad should not be in the bottom three.
[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: Gus is a genius. A brilliant manager. Just look how he has transformed the Black Cats in a few months. It's sad we lost him and gained an uninspirational figure. In reality Gus was always destined for the top level and it's no surprise he got itchy feet at the Albion and wanted a move.[/p][/quote]All Gus has done so far is shown what a poor manager Di Canio was. That squad should not be in the bottom three. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 8

1:36pm Fri 24 Jan 14

mikeygit says...

The going of Liam is a certainly and yes we want as much as possible--no point in under selling him. But where will HE want to go?? Sunderland I would guess, if another club comes in with a higher bid it does not mean Liam wants to go to THAT club. I hope the deal is done today as It gives us a little more breathing space to use the money we get for Liam, wisely---unless we have someone already lined up. I do not particularly like the sound of signing up lower league players, unless they have GREAT potential---I would rather sign someone up with PROVEN ability. no use signing players up on the cheap if they do not come up to the mark--we have done that with a few of our current players.
The going of Liam is a certainly and yes we want as much as possible--no point in under selling him. But where will HE want to go?? Sunderland I would guess, if another club comes in with a higher bid it does not mean Liam wants to go to THAT club. I hope the deal is done today as It gives us a little more breathing space to use the money we get for Liam, wisely---unless we have someone already lined up. I do not particularly like the sound of signing up lower league players, unless they have GREAT potential---I would rather sign someone up with PROVEN ability. no use signing players up on the cheap if they do not come up to the mark--we have done that with a few of our current players. mikeygit
  • Score: -4

1:51pm Fri 24 Jan 14

DuncanThickett says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
DuncanThickett wrote:
I think Liam going is a definite, but Buckley to Palarse? They can do one!
I wonder which is of a greater desire to Bridcutt, play at prem level anywhere, go to the highest bidder, or to link up with Poyet again no matter what.
It would be nice to think Liam could stay with us until the end of the season and see if he can realise his Prem dream with us. But Sunderland are probably going to pay him more unfortunately, and that's what it often comes down to.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DuncanThickett[/bold] wrote: I think Liam going is a definite, but Buckley to Palarse? They can do one![/p][/quote]I wonder which is of a greater desire to Bridcutt, play at prem level anywhere, go to the highest bidder, or to link up with Poyet again no matter what.[/p][/quote]It would be nice to think Liam could stay with us until the end of the season and see if he can realise his Prem dream with us. But Sunderland are probably going to pay him more unfortunately, and that's what it often comes down to. DuncanThickett
  • Score: -1

2:04pm Fri 24 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

DuncanThickett wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
DuncanThickett wrote:
I think Liam going is a definite, but Buckley to Palarse? They can do one!
I wonder which is of a greater desire to Bridcutt, play at prem level anywhere, go to the highest bidder, or to link up with Poyet again no matter what.
It would be nice to think Liam could stay with us until the end of the season and see if he can realise his Prem dream with us. But Sunderland are probably going to pay him more unfortunately, and that's what it often comes down to.
Duncan what do you think would happen if, Swansea offer 3 million and Brighton accept, Poyet does not match the offer, will Bridcutt choose Swansea, or decide to stay. You can change Swansea for any other prem club. Is it money or is it Gus that is driving Bridcutt's desire to leave.
[quote][p][bold]DuncanThickett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DuncanThickett[/bold] wrote: I think Liam going is a definite, but Buckley to Palarse? They can do one![/p][/quote]I wonder which is of a greater desire to Bridcutt, play at prem level anywhere, go to the highest bidder, or to link up with Poyet again no matter what.[/p][/quote]It would be nice to think Liam could stay with us until the end of the season and see if he can realise his Prem dream with us. But Sunderland are probably going to pay him more unfortunately, and that's what it often comes down to.[/p][/quote]Duncan what do you think would happen if, Swansea offer 3 million and Brighton accept, Poyet does not match the offer, will Bridcutt choose Swansea, or decide to stay. You can change Swansea for any other prem club. Is it money or is it Gus that is driving Bridcutt's desire to leave. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

2:19pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Falmer Wizard says...

Bridcutt deserves his chance in the Premiership,Gus has made a very good start to his move to Sunderland,good luck to both of them,they deserve it.
It is now obvious that Gus was aware of our financial situation and realised he would have to move on,he left us in a top half of the table position which we should be able to maintain,this will ensure good attendances in the Championship
Bridcutt deserves his chance in the Premiership,Gus has made a very good start to his move to Sunderland,good luck to both of them,they deserve it. It is now obvious that Gus was aware of our financial situation and realised he would have to move on,he left us in a top half of the table position which we should be able to maintain,this will ensure good attendances in the Championship Falmer Wizard
  • Score: -8

2:23pm Fri 24 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Falmer Wizard wrote:
Bridcutt deserves his chance in the Premiership,Gus has made a very good start to his move to Sunderland,good luck to both of them,they deserve it.
It is now obvious that Gus was aware of our financial situation and realised he would have to move on,he left us in a top half of the table position which we should be able to maintain,this will ensure good attendances in the Championship
I get your point re Poyet but Oscar has us where we are without the money Gus wanted for transfers and he has had to cope with a whole bunch of injuries, could Gus have achieved what Oscar has?
[quote][p][bold]Falmer Wizard[/bold] wrote: Bridcutt deserves his chance in the Premiership,Gus has made a very good start to his move to Sunderland,good luck to both of them,they deserve it. It is now obvious that Gus was aware of our financial situation and realised he would have to move on,he left us in a top half of the table position which we should be able to maintain,this will ensure good attendances in the Championship[/p][/quote]I get your point re Poyet but Oscar has us where we are without the money Gus wanted for transfers and he has had to cope with a whole bunch of injuries, could Gus have achieved what Oscar has? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 18

2:29pm Fri 24 Jan 14

DuncanThickett says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
DuncanThickett wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
DuncanThickett wrote:
I think Liam going is a definite, but Buckley to Palarse? They can do one!
I wonder which is of a greater desire to Bridcutt, play at prem level anywhere, go to the highest bidder, or to link up with Poyet again no matter what.
It would be nice to think Liam could stay with us until the end of the season and see if he can realise his Prem dream with us. But Sunderland are probably going to pay him more unfortunately, and that's what it often comes down to.
Duncan what do you think would happen if, Swansea offer 3 million and Brighton accept, Poyet does not match the offer, will Bridcutt choose Swansea, or decide to stay. You can change Swansea for any other prem club. Is it money or is it Gus that is driving Bridcutt's desire to leave.
Good question. I guess only he knows for certain, but if i had to chose one, i'd say he just wants Prem football. He could follow Poyet, but if Poyet gets the chop at the end of the season for whatever reason, he'll be Gus-less again. One way or another, in 7 days and 10 hours we'll have a clearer idea!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DuncanThickett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DuncanThickett[/bold] wrote: I think Liam going is a definite, but Buckley to Palarse? They can do one![/p][/quote]I wonder which is of a greater desire to Bridcutt, play at prem level anywhere, go to the highest bidder, or to link up with Poyet again no matter what.[/p][/quote]It would be nice to think Liam could stay with us until the end of the season and see if he can realise his Prem dream with us. But Sunderland are probably going to pay him more unfortunately, and that's what it often comes down to.[/p][/quote]Duncan what do you think would happen if, Swansea offer 3 million and Brighton accept, Poyet does not match the offer, will Bridcutt choose Swansea, or decide to stay. You can change Swansea for any other prem club. Is it money or is it Gus that is driving Bridcutt's desire to leave.[/p][/quote]Good question. I guess only he knows for certain, but if i had to chose one, i'd say he just wants Prem football. He could follow Poyet, but if Poyet gets the chop at the end of the season for whatever reason, he'll be Gus-less again. One way or another, in 7 days and 10 hours we'll have a clearer idea! DuncanThickett
  • Score: 3

2:59pm Fri 24 Jan 14

saraman says...

magicmenagerie wrote:
I am amazed at the Gus Poyet hate on here. You're not fans of the Albion if that's how you feel. He built us a great footballing team and got very close to the Premier League. Team was a joy to watch. Proper football. No, the end was not pretty - endings rarely are - but grow up a bit and take a balanced view - he was good for us, we were good for him, things move on. Take the hate away, it's ugly and actually rather childish.
I'm a 100% Albion fan, but that does not prevent me from hating the very name of Poyet (aaagh).
Yes he did do a lot of good for our club but no way does it excuse him for the despicable way he acted at the back end of last season.

To my way of thinking he should have been hung, drawn and quartered for treason and his head placed on the highest point of The Amex for the SEAGULLS to devour.

I know it's emotionally over the top,but that's how feel, and no apologies would ever be entertained, childish or not. There, I feel better now.
[quote][p][bold]magicmenagerie[/bold] wrote: I am amazed at the Gus Poyet hate on here. You're not fans of the Albion if that's how you feel. He built us a great footballing team and got very close to the Premier League. Team was a joy to watch. Proper football. No, the end was not pretty - endings rarely are - but grow up a bit and take a balanced view - he was good for us, we were good for him, things move on. Take the hate away, it's ugly and actually rather childish.[/p][/quote]I'm a 100% Albion fan, but that does not prevent me from hating the very name of Poyet (aaagh). Yes he did do a lot of good for our club but no way does it excuse him for the despicable way he acted at the back end of last season. To my way of thinking he should have been hung, drawn and quartered for treason and his head placed on the highest point of The Amex for the SEAGULLS to devour. I know it's emotionally over the top,but that's how feel, and no apologies would ever be entertained, childish or not. There, I feel better now. saraman
  • Score: 7

3:13pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Mancgulled says...

PART ex with Norwich for Beccio - 51 mins played last 11 games -- Maybe if I repeat it enough times some divine intervention will occur! Oh please .....
PART ex with Norwich for Beccio - 51 mins played last 11 games -- Maybe if I repeat it enough times some divine intervention will occur! Oh please ..... Mancgulled
  • Score: 8

3:24pm Fri 24 Jan 14

dave from bexill says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Falmer Wizard wrote:
Bridcutt deserves his chance in the Premiership,Gus has made a very good start to his move to Sunderland,good luck to both of them,they deserve it.
It is now obvious that Gus was aware of our financial situation and realised he would have to move on,he left us in a top half of the table position which we should be able to maintain,this will ensure good attendances in the Championship
I get your point re Poyet but Oscar has us where we are without the money Gus wanted for transfers and he has had to cope with a whole bunch of injuries, could Gus have achieved what Oscar has?
We'll never actually know will we
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Falmer Wizard[/bold] wrote: Bridcutt deserves his chance in the Premiership,Gus has made a very good start to his move to Sunderland,good luck to both of them,they deserve it. It is now obvious that Gus was aware of our financial situation and realised he would have to move on,he left us in a top half of the table position which we should be able to maintain,this will ensure good attendances in the Championship[/p][/quote]I get your point re Poyet but Oscar has us where we are without the money Gus wanted for transfers and he has had to cope with a whole bunch of injuries, could Gus have achieved what Oscar has?[/p][/quote]We'll never actually know will we dave from bexill
  • Score: -5

3:28pm Fri 24 Jan 14

raymondo999 says...

Claude Back wrote:
albion64 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
A bidding war will do for me....

The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him.

Uta
Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans.

Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA
You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'.
Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too.
G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator.
So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.
100 per cent in agreement Claude. And it's nice to see that a thinking person can sometimes get the thumbs up!
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: A bidding war will do for me.... The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him. Uta[/p][/quote]Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans. Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA[/p][/quote]You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'. Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too. G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator. So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.[/p][/quote]100 per cent in agreement Claude. And it's nice to see that a thinking person can sometimes get the thumbs up! raymondo999
  • Score: -7

3:29pm Fri 24 Jan 14

dave from bexill says...

saraman wrote:
magicmenagerie wrote:
I am amazed at the Gus Poyet hate on here. You're not fans of the Albion if that's how you feel. He built us a great footballing team and got very close to the Premier League. Team was a joy to watch. Proper football. No, the end was not pretty - endings rarely are - but grow up a bit and take a balanced view - he was good for us, we were good for him, things move on. Take the hate away, it's ugly and actually rather childish.
I'm a 100% Albion fan, but that does not prevent me from hating the very name of Poyet (aaagh).
Yes he did do a lot of good for our club but no way does it excuse him for the despicable way he acted at the back end of last season.

To my way of thinking he should have been hung, drawn and quartered for treason and his head placed on the highest point of The Amex for the SEAGULLS to devour.

I know it's emotionally over the top,but that's how feel, and no apologies would ever be entertained, childish or not. There, I feel better now.
Saraman, you're obviously in the know, so perhaps you can tell us what exactly did happen at the and of his reign and more importantly, who told you. Please share as it would be interesting to have the definitive answer. Thank you in anticipation of your reply.
[quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]magicmenagerie[/bold] wrote: I am amazed at the Gus Poyet hate on here. You're not fans of the Albion if that's how you feel. He built us a great footballing team and got very close to the Premier League. Team was a joy to watch. Proper football. No, the end was not pretty - endings rarely are - but grow up a bit and take a balanced view - he was good for us, we were good for him, things move on. Take the hate away, it's ugly and actually rather childish.[/p][/quote]I'm a 100% Albion fan, but that does not prevent me from hating the very name of Poyet (aaagh). Yes he did do a lot of good for our club but no way does it excuse him for the despicable way he acted at the back end of last season. To my way of thinking he should have been hung, drawn and quartered for treason and his head placed on the highest point of The Amex for the SEAGULLS to devour. I know it's emotionally over the top,but that's how feel, and no apologies would ever be entertained, childish or not. There, I feel better now.[/p][/quote]Saraman, you're obviously in the know, so perhaps you can tell us what exactly did happen at the and of his reign and more importantly, who told you. Please share as it would be interesting to have the definitive answer. Thank you in anticipation of your reply. dave from bexill
  • Score: 8

3:36pm Fri 24 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

dave from bexill wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Falmer Wizard wrote:
Bridcutt deserves his chance in the Premiership,Gus has made a very good start to his move to Sunderland,good luck to both of them,they deserve it.
It is now obvious that Gus was aware of our financial situation and realised he would have to move on,he left us in a top half of the table position which we should be able to maintain,this will ensure good attendances in the Championship
I get your point re Poyet but Oscar has us where we are without the money Gus wanted for transfers and he has had to cope with a whole bunch of injuries, could Gus have achieved what Oscar has?
We'll never actually know will we
Nope we won't know, but one was up for the challenge and one wasn't, I'll go with the one that was rather than the one who wasn't.
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Falmer Wizard[/bold] wrote: Bridcutt deserves his chance in the Premiership,Gus has made a very good start to his move to Sunderland,good luck to both of them,they deserve it. It is now obvious that Gus was aware of our financial situation and realised he would have to move on,he left us in a top half of the table position which we should be able to maintain,this will ensure good attendances in the Championship[/p][/quote]I get your point re Poyet but Oscar has us where we are without the money Gus wanted for transfers and he has had to cope with a whole bunch of injuries, could Gus have achieved what Oscar has?[/p][/quote]We'll never actually know will we[/p][/quote]Nope we won't know, but one was up for the challenge and one wasn't, I'll go with the one that was rather than the one who wasn't. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 5

3:42pm Fri 24 Jan 14

WiseOldSeagull says...

The goal: Promotoin to the EPL.

How: Keep our best players and complement where needed and where finances allow.

Bridcutt, Buckley, Ulloa are key players and we should keep them unless we have to sell in order to avoid going out of business. Why should we sell? Watwe need to do is buy or loan a box to box midfilder and possibly Baird. Thats it. CMS and Hoskins are on their way back. No need to panic. Hold the squad together and achieve wha we set out for.
The goal: Promotoin to the EPL. How: Keep our best players and complement where needed and where finances allow. Bridcutt, Buckley, Ulloa are key players and we should keep them unless we have to sell in order to avoid going out of business. Why should we sell? Watwe need to do is buy or loan a box to box midfilder and possibly Baird. Thats it. CMS and Hoskins are on their way back. No need to panic. Hold the squad together and achieve wha we set out for. WiseOldSeagull
  • Score: 4

3:42pm Fri 24 Jan 14

seegull fly in sky says...

Brodclott e um lyke biskit e getum biskit a wim bonoss e swionsee
Brodclott e um lyke biskit e getum biskit a wim bonoss e swionsee seegull fly in sky
  • Score: 4

3:44pm Fri 24 Jan 14

saraman says...

dave from bexill wrote:
saraman wrote:
magicmenagerie wrote: I am amazed at the Gus Poyet hate on here. You're not fans of the Albion if that's how you feel. He built us a great footballing team and got very close to the Premier League. Team was a joy to watch. Proper football. No, the end was not pretty - endings rarely are - but grow up a bit and take a balanced view - he was good for us, we were good for him, things move on. Take the hate away, it's ugly and actually rather childish.
I'm a 100% Albion fan, but that does not prevent me from hating the very name of Poyet (aaagh). Yes he did do a lot of good for our club but no way does it excuse him for the despicable way he acted at the back end of last season. To my way of thinking he should have been hung, drawn and quartered for treason and his head placed on the highest point of The Amex for the SEAGULLS to devour. I know it's emotionally over the top,but that's how feel, and no apologies would ever be entertained, childish or not. There, I feel better now.
Saraman, you're obviously in the know, so perhaps you can tell us what exactly did happen at the and of his reign and more importantly, who told you. Please share as it would be interesting to have the definitive answer. Thank you in anticipation of your reply.
Gross misconduct. Were you not aware of that, it filled the headlines for weeks and still does occassionally?

If that was good enough for Tony Bloom, it is good enough for me and for MOST on here I might add.
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]magicmenagerie[/bold] wrote: I am amazed at the Gus Poyet hate on here. You're not fans of the Albion if that's how you feel. He built us a great footballing team and got very close to the Premier League. Team was a joy to watch. Proper football. No, the end was not pretty - endings rarely are - but grow up a bit and take a balanced view - he was good for us, we were good for him, things move on. Take the hate away, it's ugly and actually rather childish.[/p][/quote]I'm a 100% Albion fan, but that does not prevent me from hating the very name of Poyet (aaagh). Yes he did do a lot of good for our club but no way does it excuse him for the despicable way he acted at the back end of last season. To my way of thinking he should have been hung, drawn and quartered for treason and his head placed on the highest point of The Amex for the SEAGULLS to devour. I know it's emotionally over the top,but that's how feel, and no apologies would ever be entertained, childish or not. There, I feel better now.[/p][/quote]Saraman, you're obviously in the know, so perhaps you can tell us what exactly did happen at the and of his reign and more importantly, who told you. Please share as it would be interesting to have the definitive answer. Thank you in anticipation of your reply.[/p][/quote]Gross misconduct. Were you not aware of that, it filled the headlines for weeks and still does occassionally? If that was good enough for Tony Bloom, it is good enough for me and for MOST on here I might add. saraman
  • Score: 2

3:47pm Fri 24 Jan 14

safc207 says...

Listen, all you seagulls.
I have no hatred towards you or your club.Brighton is probably one of the best run clubs in the championshi but reality is you wouldnt be where you are now if it wasnt for poyet.Nobody knows why he was sacked it is just everyone guessing.Gus done well for you and has now joined a bigger club in the premier league.We were dross before he arrived and he is now showing what a good manager he is.If bridcutt comes to sunderland wish him well.Good look for the rest of the season Brighton.
Listen, all you seagulls. I have no hatred towards you or your club.Brighton is probably one of the best run clubs in the championshi but reality is you wouldnt be where you are now if it wasnt for poyet.Nobody knows why he was sacked it is just everyone guessing.Gus done well for you and has now joined a bigger club in the premier league.We were dross before he arrived and he is now showing what a good manager he is.If bridcutt comes to sunderland wish him well.Good look for the rest of the season Brighton. safc207
  • Score: 13

4:06pm Fri 24 Jan 14

and another thing.... says...

safc207 wrote:
Listen, all you seagulls.
I have no hatred towards you or your club.Brighton is probably one of the best run clubs in the championshi but reality is you wouldnt be where you are now if it wasnt for poyet.Nobody knows why he was sacked it is just everyone guessing.Gus done well for you and has now joined a bigger club in the premier league.We were dross before he arrived and he is now showing what a good manager he is.If bridcutt comes to sunderland wish him well.Good look for the rest of the season Brighton.
For the good Poyet has done for the club, I applaud Gus Poyet - and I wish Bridcutt and Sunderland well.
The manner of Poyet's going is another matter, however. He told the club he would be resigning at the end of the season in March 2013 - bad timing..... unprofessional at the least. His actions thereafter disrespected the club and the fans who had lauded him for so long.
I hope he doesn't do the same to Sunderland - but I wouldn't put money on it..... Sunderland is not big enough for his ego either. No disrespect
[quote][p][bold]safc207[/bold] wrote: Listen, all you seagulls. I have no hatred towards you or your club.Brighton is probably one of the best run clubs in the championshi but reality is you wouldnt be where you are now if it wasnt for poyet.Nobody knows why he was sacked it is just everyone guessing.Gus done well for you and has now joined a bigger club in the premier league.We were dross before he arrived and he is now showing what a good manager he is.If bridcutt comes to sunderland wish him well.Good look for the rest of the season Brighton.[/p][/quote]For the good Poyet has done for the club, I applaud Gus Poyet - and I wish Bridcutt and Sunderland well. The manner of Poyet's going is another matter, however. He told the club he would be resigning at the end of the season in March 2013 - bad timing..... unprofessional at the least. His actions thereafter disrespected the club and the fans who had lauded him for so long. I hope he doesn't do the same to Sunderland - but I wouldn't put money on it..... Sunderland is not big enough for his ego either. No disrespect and another thing....
  • Score: 11

4:12pm Fri 24 Jan 14

and another thing.... says...

and another thing.... wrote:
safc207 wrote:
Listen, all you seagulls.
I have no hatred towards you or your club.Brighton is probably one of the best run clubs in the championshi but reality is you wouldnt be where you are now if it wasnt for poyet.Nobody knows why he was sacked it is just everyone guessing.Gus done well for you and has now joined a bigger club in the premier league.We were dross before he arrived and he is now showing what a good manager he is.If bridcutt comes to sunderland wish him well.Good look for the rest of the season Brighton.
For the good Poyet has done for the club, I applaud Gus Poyet - and I wish Bridcutt and Sunderland well.
The manner of Poyet's going is another matter, however. He told the club he would be resigning at the end of the season in March 2013 - bad timing..... unprofessional at the least. His actions thereafter disrespected the club and the fans who had lauded him for so long.
I hope he doesn't do the same to Sunderland - but I wouldn't put money on it..... Sunderland is not big enough for his ego either. No disrespect
...sorry, I should have said 'he told the chairmen' rather than 'he told the club'.
I don't hold a grudge, but he now seems intent on asset-stripping the Albion, so there's not much residual good feeling about him.
[quote][p][bold]and another thing....[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]safc207[/bold] wrote: Listen, all you seagulls. I have no hatred towards you or your club.Brighton is probably one of the best run clubs in the championshi but reality is you wouldnt be where you are now if it wasnt for poyet.Nobody knows why he was sacked it is just everyone guessing.Gus done well for you and has now joined a bigger club in the premier league.We were dross before he arrived and he is now showing what a good manager he is.If bridcutt comes to sunderland wish him well.Good look for the rest of the season Brighton.[/p][/quote]For the good Poyet has done for the club, I applaud Gus Poyet - and I wish Bridcutt and Sunderland well. The manner of Poyet's going is another matter, however. He told the club he would be resigning at the end of the season in March 2013 - bad timing..... unprofessional at the least. His actions thereafter disrespected the club and the fans who had lauded him for so long. I hope he doesn't do the same to Sunderland - but I wouldn't put money on it..... Sunderland is not big enough for his ego either. No disrespect[/p][/quote]...sorry, I should have said 'he told the chairmen' rather than 'he told the club'. I don't hold a grudge, but he now seems intent on asset-stripping the Albion, so there's not much residual good feeling about him. and another thing....
  • Score: 2

4:20pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Hovite says...

safc207 wrote:
Listen, all you seagulls.
I have no hatred towards you or your club.Brighton is probably one of the best run clubs in the championshi but reality is you wouldnt be where you are now if it wasnt for poyet.Nobody knows why he was sacked it is just everyone guessing.Gus done well for you and has now joined a bigger club in the premier league.We were dross before he arrived and he is now showing what a good manager he is.If bridcutt comes to sunderland wish him well.Good look for the rest of the season Brighton.
Yep agree that he will make you hard to beat and has a good chance of keeping you up. But lets not forget Man U were rubbish epsecially without Van Percie and Rooney.

I also seem to remember you had one shot on target that night and missed 3 penalties.

You will also have to get used to sitting back, slow starts to games and inviting goals. 2-0 down to Cardiff and 2-0 down Shampton before coming back.

The jury is out whether Bridcutt will make the difference as Gus used him to slow things down and pass backwards and sideways. You seem to be doing well without him.

Good luck though it just makes an interesting side show and it will be good to see Gus and the players he brings in tested.
[quote][p][bold]safc207[/bold] wrote: Listen, all you seagulls. I have no hatred towards you or your club.Brighton is probably one of the best run clubs in the championshi but reality is you wouldnt be where you are now if it wasnt for poyet.Nobody knows why he was sacked it is just everyone guessing.Gus done well for you and has now joined a bigger club in the premier league.We were dross before he arrived and he is now showing what a good manager he is.If bridcutt comes to sunderland wish him well.Good look for the rest of the season Brighton.[/p][/quote]Yep agree that he will make you hard to beat and has a good chance of keeping you up. But lets not forget Man U were rubbish epsecially without Van Percie and Rooney. I also seem to remember you had one shot on target that night and missed 3 penalties. You will also have to get used to sitting back, slow starts to games and inviting goals. 2-0 down to Cardiff and 2-0 down Shampton before coming back. The jury is out whether Bridcutt will make the difference as Gus used him to slow things down and pass backwards and sideways. You seem to be doing well without him. Good luck though it just makes an interesting side show and it will be good to see Gus and the players he brings in tested. Hovite
  • Score: 3

4:29pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Notters_Seagull says...

farside wrote:
Swansea bid for Bridcutt rumoured to be £3m.
Where would you choose to go if you were him?
Brighton.
[quote][p][bold]farside[/bold] wrote: Swansea bid for Bridcutt rumoured to be £3m. Where would you choose to go if you were him?[/p][/quote]Brighton. Notters_Seagull
  • Score: 9

4:29pm Fri 24 Jan 14

rolivan says...

safc207 wrote:
Listen, all you seagulls.
I have no hatred towards you or your club.Brighton is probably one of the best run clubs in the championshi but reality is you wouldnt be where you are now if it wasnt for poyet.Nobody knows why he was sacked it is just everyone guessing.Gus done well for you and has now joined a bigger club in the premier league.We were dross before he arrived and he is now showing what a good manager he is.If bridcutt comes to sunderland wish him well.Good look for the rest of the season Brighton.
Wll you be so Compimentary if you get relegated?As for you saying we wouldn't be where we are now that is like us saying you wouldn't be whereyou are now if it wasn't for PDC.i notice You have disposed of your Director of Football which I think is what upset the Applecart here when the 2B's were appointed.it seems that gus wants it his way or the highway
[quote][p][bold]safc207[/bold] wrote: Listen, all you seagulls. I have no hatred towards you or your club.Brighton is probably one of the best run clubs in the championshi but reality is you wouldnt be where you are now if it wasnt for poyet.Nobody knows why he was sacked it is just everyone guessing.Gus done well for you and has now joined a bigger club in the premier league.We were dross before he arrived and he is now showing what a good manager he is.If bridcutt comes to sunderland wish him well.Good look for the rest of the season Brighton.[/p][/quote]Wll you be so Compimentary if you get relegated?As for you saying we wouldn't be where we are now that is like us saying you wouldn't be whereyou are now if it wasn't for PDC.i notice You have disposed of your Director of Football which I think is what upset the Applecart here when the 2B's were appointed.it seems that gus wants it his way or the highway rolivan
  • Score: 4

4:46pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Alfie T says...

safc207 wrote:
Listen, all you seagulls.
I have no hatred towards you or your club.Brighton is probably one of the best run clubs in the championshi but reality is you wouldnt be where you are now if it wasnt for poyet.Nobody knows why he was sacked it is just everyone guessing.Gus done well for you and has now joined a bigger club in the premier league.We were dross before he arrived and he is now showing what a good manager he is.If bridcutt comes to sunderland wish him well.Good look for the rest of the season Brighton.
Poyet started the revolution here, will always be a legend for many that experienced the brand of football produced under him. But make no mistake, Sunderland is just another stepping stone for the ego that is Gus Poyet.
[quote][p][bold]safc207[/bold] wrote: Listen, all you seagulls. I have no hatred towards you or your club.Brighton is probably one of the best run clubs in the championshi but reality is you wouldnt be where you are now if it wasnt for poyet.Nobody knows why he was sacked it is just everyone guessing.Gus done well for you and has now joined a bigger club in the premier league.We were dross before he arrived and he is now showing what a good manager he is.If bridcutt comes to sunderland wish him well.Good look for the rest of the season Brighton.[/p][/quote]Poyet started the revolution here, will always be a legend for many that experienced the brand of football produced under him. But make no mistake, Sunderland is just another stepping stone for the ego that is Gus Poyet. Alfie T
  • Score: 8

5:01pm Fri 24 Jan 14

albion64 says...

raymondo999 wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
albion64 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
A bidding war will do for me....

The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him.

Uta
Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans.

Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA
You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'.
Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too.
G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator.
So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.
100 per cent in agreement Claude. And it's nice to see that a thinking person can sometimes get the thumbs up!
Well Claudeback, now its getting personal. Who the hell do you think you are?
Wake up and grow some. Pooyet f@cked us over during the play-offs fact.

We were destined for the prem' no doubt. He throws his dummy out of the pram because of budgets etc. He turns up at 7pm the night of the second leg, fact. The team were in disarray. We had it in the bag after the first leg.

What he did for us beforehand was completely undone in his last weeks.
He offered himself to just about every club he visited. There's no smoke without fire and let me tell you all that you have been hearing is true. Let's just say some of us know people within the club. Unless he's your cousin, I don't understand your fierce defending of the man. For your information, I have supported the Albion for a long time and have an opinion.
Deep down I am sure you are an ok bloke, you just find come across a tw@t. UTA
[quote][p][bold]raymondo999[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: A bidding war will do for me.... The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him. Uta[/p][/quote]Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans. Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA[/p][/quote]You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'. Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too. G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator. So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.[/p][/quote]100 per cent in agreement Claude. And it's nice to see that a thinking person can sometimes get the thumbs up![/p][/quote]Well Claudeback, now its getting personal. Who the hell do you think you are? Wake up and grow some. Pooyet f@cked us over during the play-offs fact. We were destined for the prem' no doubt. He throws his dummy out of the pram because of budgets etc. He turns up at 7pm the night of the second leg, fact. The team were in disarray. We had it in the bag after the first leg. What he did for us beforehand was completely undone in his last weeks. He offered himself to just about every club he visited. There's no smoke without fire and let me tell you all that you have been hearing is true. Let's just say some of us know people within the club. Unless he's your cousin, I don't understand your fierce defending of the man. For your information, I have supported the Albion for a long time and have an opinion. Deep down I am sure you are an ok bloke, you just find come across a tw@t. UTA albion64
  • Score: 10

5:25pm Fri 24 Jan 14

dave from bexill says...

saraman wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
saraman wrote:
magicmenagerie wrote: I am amazed at the Gus Poyet hate on here. You're not fans of the Albion if that's how you feel. He built us a great footballing team and got very close to the Premier League. Team was a joy to watch. Proper football. No, the end was not pretty - endings rarely are - but grow up a bit and take a balanced view - he was good for us, we were good for him, things move on. Take the hate away, it's ugly and actually rather childish.
I'm a 100% Albion fan, but that does not prevent me from hating the very name of Poyet (aaagh). Yes he did do a lot of good for our club but no way does it excuse him for the despicable way he acted at the back end of last season. To my way of thinking he should have been hung, drawn and quartered for treason and his head placed on the highest point of The Amex for the SEAGULLS to devour. I know it's emotionally over the top,but that's how feel, and no apologies would ever be entertained, childish or not. There, I feel better now.
Saraman, you're obviously in the know, so perhaps you can tell us what exactly did happen at the and of his reign and more importantly, who told you. Please share as it would be interesting to have the definitive answer. Thank you in anticipation of your reply.
Gross misconduct. Were you not aware of that, it filled the headlines for weeks and still does occassionally?

If that was good enough for Tony Bloom, it is good enough for me and for MOST on here I might add.
Ok, I just wondered whether or not you know the actual details of the gross misconduct, that is the facts and not just the heresay, particularly as Gus Poyet hasn't responded.
[quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]magicmenagerie[/bold] wrote: I am amazed at the Gus Poyet hate on here. You're not fans of the Albion if that's how you feel. He built us a great footballing team and got very close to the Premier League. Team was a joy to watch. Proper football. No, the end was not pretty - endings rarely are - but grow up a bit and take a balanced view - he was good for us, we were good for him, things move on. Take the hate away, it's ugly and actually rather childish.[/p][/quote]I'm a 100% Albion fan, but that does not prevent me from hating the very name of Poyet (aaagh). Yes he did do a lot of good for our club but no way does it excuse him for the despicable way he acted at the back end of last season. To my way of thinking he should have been hung, drawn and quartered for treason and his head placed on the highest point of The Amex for the SEAGULLS to devour. I know it's emotionally over the top,but that's how feel, and no apologies would ever be entertained, childish or not. There, I feel better now.[/p][/quote]Saraman, you're obviously in the know, so perhaps you can tell us what exactly did happen at the and of his reign and more importantly, who told you. Please share as it would be interesting to have the definitive answer. Thank you in anticipation of your reply.[/p][/quote]Gross misconduct. Were you not aware of that, it filled the headlines for weeks and still does occassionally? If that was good enough for Tony Bloom, it is good enough for me and for MOST on here I might add.[/p][/quote]Ok, I just wondered whether or not you know the actual details of the gross misconduct, that is the facts and not just the heresay, particularly as Gus Poyet hasn't responded. dave from bexill
  • Score: 1

5:29pm Fri 24 Jan 14

raymondo999 says...

albion64 wrote:
raymondo999 wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
albion64 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
A bidding war will do for me....

The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him.

Uta
Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans.

Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA
You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'.
Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too.
G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator.
So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.
100 per cent in agreement Claude. And it's nice to see that a thinking person can sometimes get the thumbs up!
Well Claudeback, now its getting personal. Who the hell do you think you are?
Wake up and grow some. Pooyet f@cked us over during the play-offs fact.

We were destined for the prem' no doubt. He throws his dummy out of the pram because of budgets etc. He turns up at 7pm the night of the second leg, fact. The team were in disarray. We had it in the bag after the first leg.

What he did for us beforehand was completely undone in his last weeks.
He offered himself to just about every club he visited. There's no smoke without fire and let me tell you all that you have been hearing is true. Let's just say some of us know people within the club. Unless he's your cousin, I don't understand your fierce defending of the man. For your information, I have supported the Albion for a long time and have an opinion.
Deep down I am sure you are an ok bloke, you just find come across a tw@t. UTA
Sorry seems I got it wrong. Your intimate knowledge of the last days of Poyet has convinced me as has your eloquent way of stating your case. Sorry Claude there are clearly wiser opinions than yours.
[quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raymondo999[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: A bidding war will do for me.... The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him. Uta[/p][/quote]Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans. Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA[/p][/quote]You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'. Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too. G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator. So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.[/p][/quote]100 per cent in agreement Claude. And it's nice to see that a thinking person can sometimes get the thumbs up![/p][/quote]Well Claudeback, now its getting personal. Who the hell do you think you are? Wake up and grow some. Pooyet f@cked us over during the play-offs fact. We were destined for the prem' no doubt. He throws his dummy out of the pram because of budgets etc. He turns up at 7pm the night of the second leg, fact. The team were in disarray. We had it in the bag after the first leg. What he did for us beforehand was completely undone in his last weeks. He offered himself to just about every club he visited. There's no smoke without fire and let me tell you all that you have been hearing is true. Let's just say some of us know people within the club. Unless he's your cousin, I don't understand your fierce defending of the man. For your information, I have supported the Albion for a long time and have an opinion. Deep down I am sure you are an ok bloke, you just find come across a tw@t. UTA[/p][/quote]Sorry seems I got it wrong. Your intimate knowledge of the last days of Poyet has convinced me as has your eloquent way of stating your case. Sorry Claude there are clearly wiser opinions than yours. raymondo999
  • Score: 1

5:59pm Fri 24 Jan 14

golddene says...

safc207 wrote:
Listen, all you seagulls.
I have no hatred towards you or your club.Brighton is probably one of the best run clubs in the championshi but reality is you wouldnt be where you are now if it wasnt for poyet.Nobody knows why he was sacked it is just everyone guessing.Gus done well for you and has now joined a bigger club in the premier league.We were dross before he arrived and he is now showing what a good manager he is.If bridcutt comes to sunderland wish him well.Good look for the rest of the season Brighton.
Yes he can go to you how would you like him, on a free perhaps, would that suit you ? We as Brighton supporters know how good Gus was for us and we do not need you coming on here reminding us, if you want Liam Bridcutt why not offer us a sum of money that represents a true value of the player that we voted player of the year for our last two seasons, when you consider who he was up against e.g. Vicente,Ulloa, Wayne Bridge to name a few you can see just what a great player Liam was for us, your clubs offer is nothing short of an insult. Why should we be ripped off when your club and all other premiership clubs receive mountains of money for next to f--k all. So you're a bigger club than us, well done, now behave like it and stop treading on the little guy or maybe if there is any justice in this world what goes around will come around.
[quote][p][bold]safc207[/bold] wrote: Listen, all you seagulls. I have no hatred towards you or your club.Brighton is probably one of the best run clubs in the championshi but reality is you wouldnt be where you are now if it wasnt for poyet.Nobody knows why he was sacked it is just everyone guessing.Gus done well for you and has now joined a bigger club in the premier league.We were dross before he arrived and he is now showing what a good manager he is.If bridcutt comes to sunderland wish him well.Good look for the rest of the season Brighton.[/p][/quote]Yes he can go to you how would you like him, on a free perhaps, would that suit you ? We as Brighton supporters know how good Gus was for us and we do not need you coming on here reminding us, if you want Liam Bridcutt why not offer us a sum of money that represents a true value of the player that we voted player of the year for our last two seasons, when you consider who he was up against e.g. Vicente,Ulloa, Wayne Bridge to name a few you can see just what a great player Liam was for us, your clubs offer is nothing short of an insult. Why should we be ripped off when your club and all other premiership clubs receive mountains of money for next to f--k all. So you're a bigger club than us, well done, now behave like it and stop treading on the little guy or maybe if there is any justice in this world what goes around will come around. golddene
  • Score: 8

5:59pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Albion In Staffs says...

raymondo999 wrote:
albion64 wrote:
raymondo999 wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
albion64 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
A bidding war will do for me....

The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him.

Uta
Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans.

Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA
You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'.
Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too.
G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator.
So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.
100 per cent in agreement Claude. And it's nice to see that a thinking person can sometimes get the thumbs up!
Well Claudeback, now its getting personal. Who the hell do you think you are?
Wake up and grow some. Pooyet f@cked us over during the play-offs fact.

We were destined for the prem' no doubt. He throws his dummy out of the pram because of budgets etc. He turns up at 7pm the night of the second leg, fact. The team were in disarray. We had it in the bag after the first leg.

What he did for us beforehand was completely undone in his last weeks.
He offered himself to just about every club he visited. There's no smoke without fire and let me tell you all that you have been hearing is true. Let's just say some of us know people within the club. Unless he's your cousin, I don't understand your fierce defending of the man. For your information, I have supported the Albion for a long time and have an opinion.
Deep down I am sure you are an ok bloke, you just find come across a tw@t. UTA
Sorry seems I got it wrong. Your intimate knowledge of the last days of Poyet has convinced me as has your eloquent way of stating your case. Sorry Claude there are clearly wiser opinions than yours.
Wow, my first view of today's activity and this mini thread is a hoot!
Firstly, even if GP is a nasty man who turned us all over in his last days, it doesn't mean the naughty step removed his managerial qualities. He had them before and he has them now. Let's not be ungracious.
Secondly, who cares if Liam ends up at Sunderland? Good luck to him. I saw Sunderland ' in the flesh' on Wednesday night and they were excellent. The Man Utd hysteria has completely overshadowed a tremendous team performance prepared by a guy who clearly has something about him.
Of course we want the maximum transfer fee for LB. But that would be the case whether its Sunderland or anyone else and being spiteful reflects on no-one but those who want to dish it out.
So for the children amongst us, let's all grow up and talk about how the club can affect the future not spew vitriol about a past we can't change....
Thanks.
[quote][p][bold]raymondo999[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raymondo999[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: A bidding war will do for me.... The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him. Uta[/p][/quote]Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans. Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA[/p][/quote]You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'. Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too. G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator. So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.[/p][/quote]100 per cent in agreement Claude. And it's nice to see that a thinking person can sometimes get the thumbs up![/p][/quote]Well Claudeback, now its getting personal. Who the hell do you think you are? Wake up and grow some. Pooyet f@cked us over during the play-offs fact. We were destined for the prem' no doubt. He throws his dummy out of the pram because of budgets etc. He turns up at 7pm the night of the second leg, fact. The team were in disarray. We had it in the bag after the first leg. What he did for us beforehand was completely undone in his last weeks. He offered himself to just about every club he visited. There's no smoke without fire and let me tell you all that you have been hearing is true. Let's just say some of us know people within the club. Unless he's your cousin, I don't understand your fierce defending of the man. For your information, I have supported the Albion for a long time and have an opinion. Deep down I am sure you are an ok bloke, you just find come across a tw@t. UTA[/p][/quote]Sorry seems I got it wrong. Your intimate knowledge of the last days of Poyet has convinced me as has your eloquent way of stating your case. Sorry Claude there are clearly wiser opinions than yours.[/p][/quote]Wow, my first view of today's activity and this mini thread is a hoot! Firstly, even if GP is a nasty man who turned us all over in his last days, it doesn't mean the naughty step removed his managerial qualities. He had them before and he has them now. Let's not be ungracious. Secondly, who cares if Liam ends up at Sunderland? Good luck to him. I saw Sunderland ' in the flesh' on Wednesday night and they were excellent. The Man Utd hysteria has completely overshadowed a tremendous team performance prepared by a guy who clearly has something about him. Of course we want the maximum transfer fee for LB. But that would be the case whether its Sunderland or anyone else and being spiteful reflects on no-one but those who want to dish it out. So for the children amongst us, let's all grow up and talk about how the club can affect the future not spew vitriol about a past we can't change.... Thanks. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 2

6:04pm Fri 24 Jan 14

WestStander17 says...

With Claude on this one. Except his comments about Oscar!

Albion64, for a "travelling circus" as you put it, Gus' formula and philosophy is doing pretty well! Transformed our style of play from the depths of League One and took us very close to the top of the Championship. Now Sunderland seem to be improving fast and are already in a major cup final. If that's a "circus", I'd love to know what you think Moyes is running at United!

Some don't seem to like the fact that Gus is so hungry to get to the top. Some ego involved too, maybe, but if it helps then so what? He is proving just how good he is at what he does. It's different if someone has ego but is also actually not that good. The old Crawley manager springs to mind. But Gus IS good. He wants to get right to the top (shouldn't we all?!) and the way he has started, he might well get there! If he helps other clubs (us and possibly Sunderland) on the way then that's great.

Yes, the way it ended may not have been pretty (as others have said, no-one really knows what exactly happened) but he has put our club in a great position on the field. If he thought that was as high as we could go for now, that's more a worry for us than him.

We got to choose who we wanted to take us on from there. We chose Oscar and he's doing well so far under what seem much tighter reins than Gus would ever have agreed to. I just hope we are able to get the full benefit of Oscar's talents in this system so that he can take us further. He might have a shot at the Barca job in the future then which, sorry all the sensitive ones out there, must be a hope of his one day!

I hope they both get to their ultimate goals and by helping us along the way!
With Claude on this one. Except his comments about Oscar! Albion64, for a "travelling circus" as you put it, Gus' formula and philosophy is doing pretty well! Transformed our style of play from the depths of League One and took us very close to the top of the Championship. Now Sunderland seem to be improving fast and are already in a major cup final. If that's a "circus", I'd love to know what you think Moyes is running at United! Some don't seem to like the fact that Gus is so hungry to get to the top. Some ego involved too, maybe, but if it helps then so what? He is proving just how good he is at what he does. It's different if someone has ego but is also actually not that good. The old Crawley manager springs to mind. But Gus IS good. He wants to get right to the top (shouldn't we all?!) and the way he has started, he might well get there! If he helps other clubs (us and possibly Sunderland) on the way then that's great. Yes, the way it ended may not have been pretty (as others have said, no-one really knows what exactly happened) but he has put our club in a great position on the field. If he thought that was as high as we could go for now, that's more a worry for us than him. We got to choose who we wanted to take us on from there. We chose Oscar and he's doing well so far under what seem much tighter reins than Gus would ever have agreed to. I just hope we are able to get the full benefit of Oscar's talents in this system so that he can take us further. He might have a shot at the Barca job in the future then which, sorry all the sensitive ones out there, must be a hope of his one day! I hope they both get to their ultimate goals and by helping us along the way! WestStander17
  • Score: 4

6:06pm Fri 24 Jan 14

dave from bexill says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
raymondo999 wrote:
albion64 wrote:
raymondo999 wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
albion64 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
A bidding war will do for me....

The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him.

Uta
Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans.

Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA
You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'.
Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too.
G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator.
So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.
100 per cent in agreement Claude. And it's nice to see that a thinking person can sometimes get the thumbs up!
Well Claudeback, now its getting personal. Who the hell do you think you are?
Wake up and grow some. Pooyet f@cked us over during the play-offs fact.

We were destined for the prem' no doubt. He throws his dummy out of the pram because of budgets etc. He turns up at 7pm the night of the second leg, fact. The team were in disarray. We had it in the bag after the first leg.

What he did for us beforehand was completely undone in his last weeks.
He offered himself to just about every club he visited. There's no smoke without fire and let me tell you all that you have been hearing is true. Let's just say some of us know people within the club. Unless he's your cousin, I don't understand your fierce defending of the man. For your information, I have supported the Albion for a long time and have an opinion.
Deep down I am sure you are an ok bloke, you just find come across a tw@t. UTA
Sorry seems I got it wrong. Your intimate knowledge of the last days of Poyet has convinced me as has your eloquent way of stating your case. Sorry Claude there are clearly wiser opinions than yours.
Wow, my first view of today's activity and this mini thread is a hoot!
Firstly, even if GP is a nasty man who turned us all over in his last days, it doesn't mean the naughty step removed his managerial qualities. He had them before and he has them now. Let's not be ungracious.
Secondly, who cares if Liam ends up at Sunderland? Good luck to him. I saw Sunderland ' in the flesh' on Wednesday night and they were excellent. The Man Utd hysteria has completely overshadowed a tremendous team performance prepared by a guy who clearly has something about him.
Of course we want the maximum transfer fee for LB. But that would be the case whether its Sunderland or anyone else and being spiteful reflects on no-one but those who want to dish it out.
So for the children amongst us, let's all grow up and talk about how the club can affect the future not spew vitriol about a past we can't change....
Thanks.
Well said.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raymondo999[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raymondo999[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: A bidding war will do for me.... The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him. Uta[/p][/quote]Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans. Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA[/p][/quote]You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'. Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too. G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator. So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.[/p][/quote]100 per cent in agreement Claude. And it's nice to see that a thinking person can sometimes get the thumbs up![/p][/quote]Well Claudeback, now its getting personal. Who the hell do you think you are? Wake up and grow some. Pooyet f@cked us over during the play-offs fact. We were destined for the prem' no doubt. He throws his dummy out of the pram because of budgets etc. He turns up at 7pm the night of the second leg, fact. The team were in disarray. We had it in the bag after the first leg. What he did for us beforehand was completely undone in his last weeks. He offered himself to just about every club he visited. There's no smoke without fire and let me tell you all that you have been hearing is true. Let's just say some of us know people within the club. Unless he's your cousin, I don't understand your fierce defending of the man. For your information, I have supported the Albion for a long time and have an opinion. Deep down I am sure you are an ok bloke, you just find come across a tw@t. UTA[/p][/quote]Sorry seems I got it wrong. Your intimate knowledge of the last days of Poyet has convinced me as has your eloquent way of stating your case. Sorry Claude there are clearly wiser opinions than yours.[/p][/quote]Wow, my first view of today's activity and this mini thread is a hoot! Firstly, even if GP is a nasty man who turned us all over in his last days, it doesn't mean the naughty step removed his managerial qualities. He had them before and he has them now. Let's not be ungracious. Secondly, who cares if Liam ends up at Sunderland? Good luck to him. I saw Sunderland ' in the flesh' on Wednesday night and they were excellent. The Man Utd hysteria has completely overshadowed a tremendous team performance prepared by a guy who clearly has something about him. Of course we want the maximum transfer fee for LB. But that would be the case whether its Sunderland or anyone else and being spiteful reflects on no-one but those who want to dish it out. So for the children amongst us, let's all grow up and talk about how the club can affect the future not spew vitriol about a past we can't change.... Thanks.[/p][/quote]Well said. dave from bexill
  • Score: 2

6:18pm Fri 24 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Poyet brought success to Brighton largely thru the club's cheque book, not too many DS lads got much of a look in during his reign.
Poyet is doing a good job at Sunderland, but again he is using the club's cheque book. I am not seeing any evidence that Poyet knows how to bring players on or adapt them, and surely a good manager does this. Everybody talked about what a great manager United had and some are now questioning whether their current manager is up to the task, but one spent millions and the other is finding it hard to buy anyone. Moyes inherited a top squad but the results have not mirrored the quality of those in his squad, to me that suggests that he is either not using his players correctly or that he just isn't getting the best our of them.

As good as Poyet might be at identifying a good player to sign, he shows very little ability of being able to actually coach players. He has a style of play that he prefers, he then buys players that he thinks will deliver that style, that's why he wants Bridcutt, why couldn't he develop those he had to play his preferred style, Oscar has done it with those that he inherited. Ferguson and Poyet might be good managers but neither can hold a candle to Oscar when it comes to coaching. Even if you go back to Poyet's early days with Brighton, he has always looked to bring players in, just like Ferguson he buys for success.

Is there anything wrong with doing it Poyet's way, nope, not if the club has the money, but he quickly wanted out from Brighton when he realized that he would actually have to work on his players rather than just replace them.
Poyet brought success to Brighton largely thru the club's cheque book, not too many DS lads got much of a look in during his reign. Poyet is doing a good job at Sunderland, but again he is using the club's cheque book. I am not seeing any evidence that Poyet knows how to bring players on or adapt them, and surely a good manager does this. Everybody talked about what a great manager United had and some are now questioning whether their current manager is up to the task, but one spent millions and the other is finding it hard to buy anyone. Moyes inherited a top squad but the results have not mirrored the quality of those in his squad, to me that suggests that he is either not using his players correctly or that he just isn't getting the best our of them. As good as Poyet might be at identifying a good player to sign, he shows very little ability of being able to actually coach players. He has a style of play that he prefers, he then buys players that he thinks will deliver that style, that's why he wants Bridcutt, why couldn't he develop those he had to play his preferred style, Oscar has done it with those that he inherited. Ferguson and Poyet might be good managers but neither can hold a candle to Oscar when it comes to coaching. Even if you go back to Poyet's early days with Brighton, he has always looked to bring players in, just like Ferguson he buys for success. Is there anything wrong with doing it Poyet's way, nope, not if the club has the money, but he quickly wanted out from Brighton when he realized that he would actually have to work on his players rather than just replace them. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 11

6:33pm Fri 24 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Poyet brought success to Brighton largely thru the club's cheque book, not too many DS lads got much of a look in during his reign.
Poyet is doing a good job at Sunderland, but again he is using the club's cheque book. I am not seeing any evidence that Poyet knows how to bring players on or adapt them, and surely a good manager does this. Everybody talked about what a great manager United had and some are now questioning whether their current manager is up to the task, but one spent millions and the other is finding it hard to buy anyone. Moyes inherited a top squad but the results have not mirrored the quality of those in his squad, to me that suggests that he is either not using his players correctly or that he just isn't getting the best our of them.

As good as Poyet might be at identifying a good player to sign, he shows very little ability of being able to actually coach players. He has a style of play that he prefers, he then buys players that he thinks will deliver that style, that's why he wants Bridcutt, why couldn't he develop those he had to play his preferred style, Oscar has done it with those that he inherited. Ferguson and Poyet might be good managers but neither can hold a candle to Oscar when it comes to coaching. Even if you go back to Poyet's early days with Brighton, he has always looked to bring players in, just like Ferguson he buys for success.

Is there anything wrong with doing it Poyet's way, nope, not if the club has the money, but he quickly wanted out from Brighton when he realized that he would actually have to work on his players rather than just replace them.
I just read on Sky that Poyet is now in for another midfielder, the guy plays for Valencia, maybe Bridcutt is moving off of his priority list.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Poyet brought success to Brighton largely thru the club's cheque book, not too many DS lads got much of a look in during his reign. Poyet is doing a good job at Sunderland, but again he is using the club's cheque book. I am not seeing any evidence that Poyet knows how to bring players on or adapt them, and surely a good manager does this. Everybody talked about what a great manager United had and some are now questioning whether their current manager is up to the task, but one spent millions and the other is finding it hard to buy anyone. Moyes inherited a top squad but the results have not mirrored the quality of those in his squad, to me that suggests that he is either not using his players correctly or that he just isn't getting the best our of them. As good as Poyet might be at identifying a good player to sign, he shows very little ability of being able to actually coach players. He has a style of play that he prefers, he then buys players that he thinks will deliver that style, that's why he wants Bridcutt, why couldn't he develop those he had to play his preferred style, Oscar has done it with those that he inherited. Ferguson and Poyet might be good managers but neither can hold a candle to Oscar when it comes to coaching. Even if you go back to Poyet's early days with Brighton, he has always looked to bring players in, just like Ferguson he buys for success. Is there anything wrong with doing it Poyet's way, nope, not if the club has the money, but he quickly wanted out from Brighton when he realized that he would actually have to work on his players rather than just replace them.[/p][/quote]I just read on Sky that Poyet is now in for another midfielder, the guy plays for Valencia, maybe Bridcutt is moving off of his priority list. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 5

6:40pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Albion In Staffs says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Poyet brought success to Brighton largely thru the club's cheque book, not too many DS lads got much of a look in during his reign.
Poyet is doing a good job at Sunderland, but again he is using the club's cheque book. I am not seeing any evidence that Poyet knows how to bring players on or adapt them, and surely a good manager does this. Everybody talked about what a great manager United had and some are now questioning whether their current manager is up to the task, but one spent millions and the other is finding it hard to buy anyone. Moyes inherited a top squad but the results have not mirrored the quality of those in his squad, to me that suggests that he is either not using his players correctly or that he just isn't getting the best our of them.

As good as Poyet might be at identifying a good player to sign, he shows very little ability of being able to actually coach players. He has a style of play that he prefers, he then buys players that he thinks will deliver that style, that's why he wants Bridcutt, why couldn't he develop those he had to play his preferred style, Oscar has done it with those that he inherited. Ferguson and Poyet might be good managers but neither can hold a candle to Oscar when it comes to coaching. Even if you go back to Poyet's early days with Brighton, he has always looked to bring players in, just like Ferguson he buys for success.

Is there anything wrong with doing it Poyet's way, nope, not if the club has the money, but he quickly wanted out from Brighton when he realized that he would actually have to work on his players rather than just replace them.
Sorry, but you don't last for 26 years at one of the biggest clubs in the world without having all round abilities, so for me, your comparison to Ferguson and suggestion he couldn't coach, is ridiculous and doesn't work.
Equally, GP has been at Sunderland for five minutes and inherited a squad that was so inept he has no option but to wheel and deal if relegation is to be averted. The club will want to remain in the Premiership, not focus on a three year plan and The Championship. Sunderland spent massive amounts on poor players in the summer to the extent their DOF got the sack on the basis of his performance before GP got there. The fact they've now improved beyond recognition, is testimony to Poyet's ability. It can't be anything else.
I have no idea who was at fault when GP left Albion, but to suggest he's a one trick pony is daft.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Poyet brought success to Brighton largely thru the club's cheque book, not too many DS lads got much of a look in during his reign. Poyet is doing a good job at Sunderland, but again he is using the club's cheque book. I am not seeing any evidence that Poyet knows how to bring players on or adapt them, and surely a good manager does this. Everybody talked about what a great manager United had and some are now questioning whether their current manager is up to the task, but one spent millions and the other is finding it hard to buy anyone. Moyes inherited a top squad but the results have not mirrored the quality of those in his squad, to me that suggests that he is either not using his players correctly or that he just isn't getting the best our of them. As good as Poyet might be at identifying a good player to sign, he shows very little ability of being able to actually coach players. He has a style of play that he prefers, he then buys players that he thinks will deliver that style, that's why he wants Bridcutt, why couldn't he develop those he had to play his preferred style, Oscar has done it with those that he inherited. Ferguson and Poyet might be good managers but neither can hold a candle to Oscar when it comes to coaching. Even if you go back to Poyet's early days with Brighton, he has always looked to bring players in, just like Ferguson he buys for success. Is there anything wrong with doing it Poyet's way, nope, not if the club has the money, but he quickly wanted out from Brighton when he realized that he would actually have to work on his players rather than just replace them.[/p][/quote]Sorry, but you don't last for 26 years at one of the biggest clubs in the world without having all round abilities, so for me, your comparison to Ferguson and suggestion he couldn't coach, is ridiculous and doesn't work. Equally, GP has been at Sunderland for five minutes and inherited a squad that was so inept he has no option but to wheel and deal if relegation is to be averted. The club will want to remain in the Premiership, not focus on a three year plan and The Championship. Sunderland spent massive amounts on poor players in the summer to the extent their DOF got the sack on the basis of his performance before GP got there. The fact they've now improved beyond recognition, is testimony to Poyet's ability. It can't be anything else. I have no idea who was at fault when GP left Albion, but to suggest he's a one trick pony is daft. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 0

6:43pm Fri 24 Jan 14

albion64 says...

dave from bexill wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
raymondo999 wrote:
albion64 wrote:
raymondo999 wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
albion64 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
A bidding war will do for me....

The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him.

Uta
Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans.

Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA
You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'.
Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too.
G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator.
So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.
100 per cent in agreement Claude. And it's nice to see that a thinking person can sometimes get the thumbs up!
Well Claudeback, now its getting personal. Who the hell do you think you are?
Wake up and grow some. Pooyet f@cked us over during the play-offs fact.

We were destined for the prem' no doubt. He throws his dummy out of the pram because of budgets etc. He turns up at 7pm the night of the second leg, fact. The team were in disarray. We had it in the bag after the first leg.

What he did for us beforehand was completely undone in his last weeks.
He offered himself to just about every club he visited. There's no smoke without fire and let me tell you all that you have been hearing is true. Let's just say some of us know people within the club. Unless he's your cousin, I don't understand your fierce defending of the man. For your information, I have supported the Albion for a long time and have an opinion.
Deep down I am sure you are an ok bloke, you just find come across a tw@t. UTA
Sorry seems I got it wrong. Your intimate knowledge of the last days of Poyet has convinced me as has your eloquent way of stating your case. Sorry Claude there are clearly wiser opinions than yours.
Wow, my first view of today's activity and this mini thread is a hoot!
Firstly, even if GP is a nasty man who turned us all over in his last days, it doesn't mean the naughty step removed his managerial qualities. He had them before and he has them now. Let's not be ungracious.
Secondly, who cares if Liam ends up at Sunderland? Good luck to him. I saw Sunderland ' in the flesh' on Wednesday night and they were excellent. The Man Utd hysteria has completely overshadowed a tremendous team performance prepared by a guy who clearly has something about him.
Of course we want the maximum transfer fee for LB. But that would be the case whether its Sunderland or anyone else and being spiteful reflects on no-one but those who want to dish it out.
So for the children amongst us, let's all grow up and talk about how the club can affect the future not spew vitriol about a past we can't change....
Thanks.
Well said.
I agree totally. We are all meant to be on the same side here. As I stated earlier, let's all get behind Oscar, not slag him off. Give the man a chance.
What happened before him is history and like it or not he is the man right now.

Mr Bloom I trust will get the right price for Bridcutt and everybody can then move on. Let's hope for an exciting signing to give us all a boost.
On that subject Danny Graham is in limbo at the moment, can't he do a job for us? I also see Peterborough are in for Jed Wallace, I thought we were interested? UTA
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raymondo999[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raymondo999[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: A bidding war will do for me.... The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him. Uta[/p][/quote]Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans. Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA[/p][/quote]You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'. Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too. G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator. So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.[/p][/quote]100 per cent in agreement Claude. And it's nice to see that a thinking person can sometimes get the thumbs up![/p][/quote]Well Claudeback, now its getting personal. Who the hell do you think you are? Wake up and grow some. Pooyet f@cked us over during the play-offs fact. We were destined for the prem' no doubt. He throws his dummy out of the pram because of budgets etc. He turns up at 7pm the night of the second leg, fact. The team were in disarray. We had it in the bag after the first leg. What he did for us beforehand was completely undone in his last weeks. He offered himself to just about every club he visited. There's no smoke without fire and let me tell you all that you have been hearing is true. Let's just say some of us know people within the club. Unless he's your cousin, I don't understand your fierce defending of the man. For your information, I have supported the Albion for a long time and have an opinion. Deep down I am sure you are an ok bloke, you just find come across a tw@t. UTA[/p][/quote]Sorry seems I got it wrong. Your intimate knowledge of the last days of Poyet has convinced me as has your eloquent way of stating your case. Sorry Claude there are clearly wiser opinions than yours.[/p][/quote]Wow, my first view of today's activity and this mini thread is a hoot! Firstly, even if GP is a nasty man who turned us all over in his last days, it doesn't mean the naughty step removed his managerial qualities. He had them before and he has them now. Let's not be ungracious. Secondly, who cares if Liam ends up at Sunderland? Good luck to him. I saw Sunderland ' in the flesh' on Wednesday night and they were excellent. The Man Utd hysteria has completely overshadowed a tremendous team performance prepared by a guy who clearly has something about him. Of course we want the maximum transfer fee for LB. But that would be the case whether its Sunderland or anyone else and being spiteful reflects on no-one but those who want to dish it out. So for the children amongst us, let's all grow up and talk about how the club can affect the future not spew vitriol about a past we can't change.... Thanks.[/p][/quote]Well said.[/p][/quote]I agree totally. We are all meant to be on the same side here. As I stated earlier, let's all get behind Oscar, not slag him off. Give the man a chance. What happened before him is history and like it or not he is the man right now. Mr Bloom I trust will get the right price for Bridcutt and everybody can then move on. Let's hope for an exciting signing to give us all a boost. On that subject Danny Graham is in limbo at the moment, can't he do a job for us? I also see Peterborough are in for Jed Wallace, I thought we were interested? UTA albion64
  • Score: 6

6:52pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Albion In Staffs says...

albion64 wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
raymondo999 wrote:
albion64 wrote:
raymondo999 wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
albion64 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
A bidding war will do for me....

The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him.

Uta
Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans.

Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA
You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'.
Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too.
G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator.
So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.
100 per cent in agreement Claude. And it's nice to see that a thinking person can sometimes get the thumbs up!
Well Claudeback, now its getting personal. Who the hell do you think you are?
Wake up and grow some. Pooyet f@cked us over during the play-offs fact.

We were destined for the prem' no doubt. He throws his dummy out of the pram because of budgets etc. He turns up at 7pm the night of the second leg, fact. The team were in disarray. We had it in the bag after the first leg.

What he did for us beforehand was completely undone in his last weeks.
He offered himself to just about every club he visited. There's no smoke without fire and let me tell you all that you have been hearing is true. Let's just say some of us know people within the club. Unless he's your cousin, I don't understand your fierce defending of the man. For your information, I have supported the Albion for a long time and have an opinion.
Deep down I am sure you are an ok bloke, you just find come across a tw@t. UTA
Sorry seems I got it wrong. Your intimate knowledge of the last days of Poyet has convinced me as has your eloquent way of stating your case. Sorry Claude there are clearly wiser opinions than yours.
Wow, my first view of today's activity and this mini thread is a hoot!
Firstly, even if GP is a nasty man who turned us all over in his last days, it doesn't mean the naughty step removed his managerial qualities. He had them before and he has them now. Let's not be ungracious.
Secondly, who cares if Liam ends up at Sunderland? Good luck to him. I saw Sunderland ' in the flesh' on Wednesday night and they were excellent. The Man Utd hysteria has completely overshadowed a tremendous team performance prepared by a guy who clearly has something about him.
Of course we want the maximum transfer fee for LB. But that would be the case whether its Sunderland or anyone else and being spiteful reflects on no-one but those who want to dish it out.
So for the children amongst us, let's all grow up and talk about how the club can affect the future not spew vitriol about a past we can't change....
Thanks.
Well said.
I agree totally. We are all meant to be on the same side here. As I stated earlier, let's all get behind Oscar, not slag him off. Give the man a chance.
What happened before him is history and like it or not he is the man right now.

Mr Bloom I trust will get the right price for Bridcutt and everybody can then move on. Let's hope for an exciting signing to give us all a boost.
On that subject Danny Graham is in limbo at the moment, can't he do a job for us? I also see Peterborough are in for Jed Wallace, I thought we were interested? UTA
Graham is currently on loan at Hull and according to people up there, they're delighted Forest want him and are hoping Sunderland recall him to send him onwards to the midlands.
According to them, the word 'hopeless' is the one you're looking for.
Merely passing on information.
[quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raymondo999[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raymondo999[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: A bidding war will do for me.... The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him. Uta[/p][/quote]Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans. Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA[/p][/quote]You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'. Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too. G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator. So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.[/p][/quote]100 per cent in agreement Claude. And it's nice to see that a thinking person can sometimes get the thumbs up![/p][/quote]Well Claudeback, now its getting personal. Who the hell do you think you are? Wake up and grow some. Pooyet f@cked us over during the play-offs fact. We were destined for the prem' no doubt. He throws his dummy out of the pram because of budgets etc. He turns up at 7pm the night of the second leg, fact. The team were in disarray. We had it in the bag after the first leg. What he did for us beforehand was completely undone in his last weeks. He offered himself to just about every club he visited. There's no smoke without fire and let me tell you all that you have been hearing is true. Let's just say some of us know people within the club. Unless he's your cousin, I don't understand your fierce defending of the man. For your information, I have supported the Albion for a long time and have an opinion. Deep down I am sure you are an ok bloke, you just find come across a tw@t. UTA[/p][/quote]Sorry seems I got it wrong. Your intimate knowledge of the last days of Poyet has convinced me as has your eloquent way of stating your case. Sorry Claude there are clearly wiser opinions than yours.[/p][/quote]Wow, my first view of today's activity and this mini thread is a hoot! Firstly, even if GP is a nasty man who turned us all over in his last days, it doesn't mean the naughty step removed his managerial qualities. He had them before and he has them now. Let's not be ungracious. Secondly, who cares if Liam ends up at Sunderland? Good luck to him. I saw Sunderland ' in the flesh' on Wednesday night and they were excellent. The Man Utd hysteria has completely overshadowed a tremendous team performance prepared by a guy who clearly has something about him. Of course we want the maximum transfer fee for LB. But that would be the case whether its Sunderland or anyone else and being spiteful reflects on no-one but those who want to dish it out. So for the children amongst us, let's all grow up and talk about how the club can affect the future not spew vitriol about a past we can't change.... Thanks.[/p][/quote]Well said.[/p][/quote]I agree totally. We are all meant to be on the same side here. As I stated earlier, let's all get behind Oscar, not slag him off. Give the man a chance. What happened before him is history and like it or not he is the man right now. Mr Bloom I trust will get the right price for Bridcutt and everybody can then move on. Let's hope for an exciting signing to give us all a boost. On that subject Danny Graham is in limbo at the moment, can't he do a job for us? I also see Peterborough are in for Jed Wallace, I thought we were interested? UTA[/p][/quote]Graham is currently on loan at Hull and according to people up there, they're delighted Forest want him and are hoping Sunderland recall him to send him onwards to the midlands. According to them, the word 'hopeless' is the one you're looking for. Merely passing on information. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 2

6:54pm Fri 24 Jan 14

WestStander17 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Poyet brought success to Brighton largely thru the club's cheque book, not too many DS lads got much of a look in during his reign.
Poyet is doing a good job at Sunderland, but again he is using the club's cheque book. I am not seeing any evidence that Poyet knows how to bring players on or adapt them, and surely a good manager does this. Everybody talked about what a great manager United had and some are now questioning whether their current manager is up to the task, but one spent millions and the other is finding it hard to buy anyone. Moyes inherited a top squad but the results have not mirrored the quality of those in his squad, to me that suggests that he is either not using his players correctly or that he just isn't getting the best our of them.

As good as Poyet might be at identifying a good player to sign, he shows very little ability of being able to actually coach players. He has a style of play that he prefers, he then buys players that he thinks will deliver that style, that's why he wants Bridcutt, why couldn't he develop those he had to play his preferred style, Oscar has done it with those that he inherited. Ferguson and Poyet might be good managers but neither can hold a candle to Oscar when it comes to coaching. Even if you go back to Poyet's early days with Brighton, he has always looked to bring players in, just like Ferguson he buys for success.

Is there anything wrong with doing it Poyet's way, nope, not if the club has the money, but he quickly wanted out from Brighton when he realized that he would actually have to work on his players rather than just replace them.
What about Adam El Abd?
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Poyet brought success to Brighton largely thru the club's cheque book, not too many DS lads got much of a look in during his reign. Poyet is doing a good job at Sunderland, but again he is using the club's cheque book. I am not seeing any evidence that Poyet knows how to bring players on or adapt them, and surely a good manager does this. Everybody talked about what a great manager United had and some are now questioning whether their current manager is up to the task, but one spent millions and the other is finding it hard to buy anyone. Moyes inherited a top squad but the results have not mirrored the quality of those in his squad, to me that suggests that he is either not using his players correctly or that he just isn't getting the best our of them. As good as Poyet might be at identifying a good player to sign, he shows very little ability of being able to actually coach players. He has a style of play that he prefers, he then buys players that he thinks will deliver that style, that's why he wants Bridcutt, why couldn't he develop those he had to play his preferred style, Oscar has done it with those that he inherited. Ferguson and Poyet might be good managers but neither can hold a candle to Oscar when it comes to coaching. Even if you go back to Poyet's early days with Brighton, he has always looked to bring players in, just like Ferguson he buys for success. Is there anything wrong with doing it Poyet's way, nope, not if the club has the money, but he quickly wanted out from Brighton when he realized that he would actually have to work on his players rather than just replace them.[/p][/quote]What about Adam El Abd? WestStander17
  • Score: 0

6:55pm Fri 24 Jan 14

albion64 says...

WestStander17 wrote:
With Claude on this one. Except his comments about Oscar!

Albion64, for a "travelling circus" as you put it, Gus' formula and philosophy is doing pretty well! Transformed our style of play from the depths of League One and took us very close to the top of the Championship. Now Sunderland seem to be improving fast and are already in a major cup final. If that's a "circus", I'd love to know what you think Moyes is running at United!

Some don't seem to like the fact that Gus is so hungry to get to the top. Some ego involved too, maybe, but if it helps then so what? He is proving just how good he is at what he does. It's different if someone has ego but is also actually not that good. The old Crawley manager springs to mind. But Gus IS good. He wants to get right to the top (shouldn't we all?!) and the way he has started, he might well get there! If he helps other clubs (us and possibly Sunderland) on the way then that's great.

Yes, the way it ended may not have been pretty (as others have said, no-one really knows what exactly happened) but he has put our club in a great position on the field. If he thought that was as high as we could go for now, that's more a worry for us than him.

We got to choose who we wanted to take us on from there. We chose Oscar and he's doing well so far under what seem much tighter reins than Gus would ever have agreed to. I just hope we are able to get the full benefit of Oscar's talents in this system so that he can take us further. He might have a shot at the Barca job in the future then which, sorry all the sensitive ones out there, must be a hope of his one day!

I hope they both get to their ultimate goals and by helping us along the way!
No one denies what he did for us WestStander 17. If people love him so much go and watch Sunderland. Otherwise get behind our man and the team.

It is very early days for Sunderland anyhow. Football has a way of biting you on the bum, on a regular basis. We'll see. UTA
[quote][p][bold]WestStander17[/bold] wrote: With Claude on this one. Except his comments about Oscar! Albion64, for a "travelling circus" as you put it, Gus' formula and philosophy is doing pretty well! Transformed our style of play from the depths of League One and took us very close to the top of the Championship. Now Sunderland seem to be improving fast and are already in a major cup final. If that's a "circus", I'd love to know what you think Moyes is running at United! Some don't seem to like the fact that Gus is so hungry to get to the top. Some ego involved too, maybe, but if it helps then so what? He is proving just how good he is at what he does. It's different if someone has ego but is also actually not that good. The old Crawley manager springs to mind. But Gus IS good. He wants to get right to the top (shouldn't we all?!) and the way he has started, he might well get there! If he helps other clubs (us and possibly Sunderland) on the way then that's great. Yes, the way it ended may not have been pretty (as others have said, no-one really knows what exactly happened) but he has put our club in a great position on the field. If he thought that was as high as we could go for now, that's more a worry for us than him. We got to choose who we wanted to take us on from there. We chose Oscar and he's doing well so far under what seem much tighter reins than Gus would ever have agreed to. I just hope we are able to get the full benefit of Oscar's talents in this system so that he can take us further. He might have a shot at the Barca job in the future then which, sorry all the sensitive ones out there, must be a hope of his one day! I hope they both get to their ultimate goals and by helping us along the way![/p][/quote]No one denies what he did for us WestStander 17. If people love him so much go and watch Sunderland. Otherwise get behind our man and the team. It is very early days for Sunderland anyhow. Football has a way of biting you on the bum, on a regular basis. We'll see. UTA albion64
  • Score: 4

6:56pm Fri 24 Jan 14

OldGull says...

Chi Gull wrote:
If Liam goes, I just hope we have our plans in place to spend the dosh. The Club has had long enough to think about it. The same goes for Buckley.

I am with Claude re. Gus. The positives he brought to our club far outweigh any negatives and he seems to be doing a fantastic job at Sunderland and has all the fans on his side. OG lacks a bit of passion and he isn't as confident as Gus with his spoken english so we don't hear enough from him directly. Can't argue with the job he has done so far, but the next few weeks will decide whether he is taking the club forwards or if we have stalled.
The time to judge OG will be next season.

He has done a good job considering the pre season and Injuries.
My personal view would be not to spend rashly this week.
By all means bring one or two in as cover.
Keep the money as a war chest for a big effort next season.

I thank Gus for how far he brought us. I hope he keeps Sunderland up.
I believe OG will take us into the prem even if it takes 2 more seasons.
UTA
[quote][p][bold]Chi Gull[/bold] wrote: If Liam goes, I just hope we have our plans in place to spend the dosh. The Club has had long enough to think about it. The same goes for Buckley. I am with Claude re. Gus. The positives he brought to our club far outweigh any negatives and he seems to be doing a fantastic job at Sunderland and has all the fans on his side. OG lacks a bit of passion and he isn't as confident as Gus with his spoken english so we don't hear enough from him directly. Can't argue with the job he has done so far, but the next few weeks will decide whether he is taking the club forwards or if we have stalled.[/p][/quote]The time to judge OG will be next season. He has done a good job considering the pre season and Injuries. My personal view would be not to spend rashly this week. By all means bring one or two in as cover. Keep the money as a war chest for a big effort next season. I thank Gus for how far he brought us. I hope he keeps Sunderland up. I believe OG will take us into the prem even if it takes 2 more seasons. UTA OldGull
  • Score: 7

6:57pm Fri 24 Jan 14

kwaidam says...

Poyet was sacked for 'gross misconduct'... ie he lumped one on Barber at a restaurant in Brighton on the Saturday night before the play-off second leg. He then decided to show up at 7.10pm on the Monday night for the second leg. While I certainly forgive him the first indiscretion, i don't forgive the second. It doesn't change the fact GP a briliant for the Albion and we were briliant for him. But, hey, it's history now.
Poyet was sacked for 'gross misconduct'... ie he lumped one on Barber at a restaurant in Brighton on the Saturday night before the play-off second leg. He then decided to show up at 7.10pm on the Monday night for the second leg. While I certainly forgive him the first indiscretion, i don't forgive the second. It doesn't change the fact GP a briliant for the Albion and we were briliant for him. But, hey, it's history now. kwaidam
  • Score: 8

7:02pm Fri 24 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Albion In Staffs.
You may or may not agree that Ferguson is one of the biggest spending managers in the history of the game, and I am talking of averages as every year records seem to get broken, but I doubt any club has spent money on the scale that Fergy did. One of the reasons why so many people didn't like United was simply because they could, and did, buy the best players, they had the money to do it, people were jealous of their spending power. One of the last deals that Fergy completed was the purchase of Zaha, 11 million rising to 15 million with add ons, did he really evaluate that lad before buying him or was this just another United purchase.

Yeah I'll grant you, the squad Poyet inherited was full of individuals that didn't make a team, but could he not have worked with them, got them to see what he wanted, what he expected. I think Poyet will keep Sunderland in the prem, as I said he knows how to identify a good signing, but as a coach, sorry he does not make the grade for me.

If you look back over Fergy's transfer dealings over the years there are a whole bunch of players that sign for three or more years but are sidelined, and eventually sold, long before their contracts expire. There are the exceptions, I know that, but generally speaking Fergy bought for instant impact and not for long term future. How many players are currently in the United starting 18 that have transitioned out of their DS in the last three years?

I might be talking a load of crap, but it's my crap and I am entitled to it.
:-)).

Oscar, by contrast, is coaching, he is bringing out the best in players and he is moving lads forward from our DS whilst also making some changes to how we play.
Albion In Staffs. You may or may not agree that Ferguson is one of the biggest spending managers in the history of the game, and I am talking of averages as every year records seem to get broken, but I doubt any club has spent money on the scale that Fergy did. One of the reasons why so many people didn't like United was simply because they could, and did, buy the best players, they had the money to do it, people were jealous of their spending power. One of the last deals that Fergy completed was the purchase of Zaha, 11 million rising to 15 million with add ons, did he really evaluate that lad before buying him or was this just another United purchase. Yeah I'll grant you, the squad Poyet inherited was full of individuals that didn't make a team, but could he not have worked with them, got them to see what he wanted, what he expected. I think Poyet will keep Sunderland in the prem, as I said he knows how to identify a good signing, but as a coach, sorry he does not make the grade for me. If you look back over Fergy's transfer dealings over the years there are a whole bunch of players that sign for three or more years but are sidelined, and eventually sold, long before their contracts expire. There are the exceptions, I know that, but generally speaking Fergy bought for instant impact and not for long term future. How many players are currently in the United starting 18 that have transitioned out of their DS in the last three years? I might be talking a load of crap, but it's my crap and I am entitled to it. :-)). Oscar, by contrast, is coaching, he is bringing out the best in players and he is moving lads forward from our DS whilst also making some changes to how we play. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

7:11pm Fri 24 Jan 14

tug509 says...

Claude Back wrote:
albion64 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
A bidding war will do for me....

The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him.

Uta
Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans.

Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA
You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'.
Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too.
G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator.
So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.
You are .
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: A bidding war will do for me.... The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him. Uta[/p][/quote]Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans. Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA[/p][/quote]You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'. Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too. G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator. So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.[/p][/quote]You are . tug509
  • Score: 2

7:12pm Fri 24 Jan 14

WestStander17 says...

albion64 wrote:
WestStander17 wrote:
With Claude on this one. Except his comments about Oscar!

Albion64, for a "travelling circus" as you put it, Gus' formula and philosophy is doing pretty well! Transformed our style of play from the depths of League One and took us very close to the top of the Championship. Now Sunderland seem to be improving fast and are already in a major cup final. If that's a "circus", I'd love to know what you think Moyes is running at United!

Some don't seem to like the fact that Gus is so hungry to get to the top. Some ego involved too, maybe, but if it helps then so what? He is proving just how good he is at what he does. It's different if someone has ego but is also actually not that good. The old Crawley manager springs to mind. But Gus IS good. He wants to get right to the top (shouldn't we all?!) and the way he has started, he might well get there! If he helps other clubs (us and possibly Sunderland) on the way then that's great.

Yes, the way it ended may not have been pretty (as others have said, no-one really knows what exactly happened) but he has put our club in a great position on the field. If he thought that was as high as we could go for now, that's more a worry for us than him.

We got to choose who we wanted to take us on from there. We chose Oscar and he's doing well so far under what seem much tighter reins than Gus would ever have agreed to. I just hope we are able to get the full benefit of Oscar's talents in this system so that he can take us further. He might have a shot at the Barca job in the future then which, sorry all the sensitive ones out there, must be a hope of his one day!

I hope they both get to their ultimate goals and by helping us along the way!
No one denies what he did for us WestStander 17. If people love him so much go and watch Sunderland. Otherwise get behind our man and the team.

It is very early days for Sunderland anyhow. Football has a way of biting you on the bum, on a regular basis. We'll see. UTA
When did I say I wasn't behind Oscar?!

If/when I get chance, I certainly will watch Sunderland on the tv now as I know the type of Football they will play. And against most I will want them to win.

Let's all hope Oscar can coach whoever he is given as successfully as Gus lead us!
[quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WestStander17[/bold] wrote: With Claude on this one. Except his comments about Oscar! Albion64, for a "travelling circus" as you put it, Gus' formula and philosophy is doing pretty well! Transformed our style of play from the depths of League One and took us very close to the top of the Championship. Now Sunderland seem to be improving fast and are already in a major cup final. If that's a "circus", I'd love to know what you think Moyes is running at United! Some don't seem to like the fact that Gus is so hungry to get to the top. Some ego involved too, maybe, but if it helps then so what? He is proving just how good he is at what he does. It's different if someone has ego but is also actually not that good. The old Crawley manager springs to mind. But Gus IS good. He wants to get right to the top (shouldn't we all?!) and the way he has started, he might well get there! If he helps other clubs (us and possibly Sunderland) on the way then that's great. Yes, the way it ended may not have been pretty (as others have said, no-one really knows what exactly happened) but he has put our club in a great position on the field. If he thought that was as high as we could go for now, that's more a worry for us than him. We got to choose who we wanted to take us on from there. We chose Oscar and he's doing well so far under what seem much tighter reins than Gus would ever have agreed to. I just hope we are able to get the full benefit of Oscar's talents in this system so that he can take us further. He might have a shot at the Barca job in the future then which, sorry all the sensitive ones out there, must be a hope of his one day! I hope they both get to their ultimate goals and by helping us along the way![/p][/quote]No one denies what he did for us WestStander 17. If people love him so much go and watch Sunderland. Otherwise get behind our man and the team. It is very early days for Sunderland anyhow. Football has a way of biting you on the bum, on a regular basis. We'll see. UTA[/p][/quote]When did I say I wasn't behind Oscar?! If/when I get chance, I certainly will watch Sunderland on the tv now as I know the type of Football they will play. And against most I will want them to win. Let's all hope Oscar can coach whoever he is given as successfully as Gus lead us! WestStander17
  • Score: 3

7:32pm Fri 24 Jan 14

ringtone says...

farside wrote:
Swansea bid for Bridcutt rumoured to be £3m.
Where would you choose to go if you were him?
Maybe Liam does not want to go abroad.
[quote][p][bold]farside[/bold] wrote: Swansea bid for Bridcutt rumoured to be £3m. Where would you choose to go if you were him?[/p][/quote]Maybe Liam does not want to go abroad. ringtone
  • Score: -1

7:34pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Albion In Staffs says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Albion In Staffs.
You may or may not agree that Ferguson is one of the biggest spending managers in the history of the game, and I am talking of averages as every year records seem to get broken, but I doubt any club has spent money on the scale that Fergy did. One of the reasons why so many people didn't like United was simply because they could, and did, buy the best players, they had the money to do it, people were jealous of their spending power. One of the last deals that Fergy completed was the purchase of Zaha, 11 million rising to 15 million with add ons, did he really evaluate that lad before buying him or was this just another United purchase.

Yeah I'll grant you, the squad Poyet inherited was full of individuals that didn't make a team, but could he not have worked with them, got them to see what he wanted, what he expected. I think Poyet will keep Sunderland in the prem, as I said he knows how to identify a good signing, but as a coach, sorry he does not make the grade for me.

If you look back over Fergy's transfer dealings over the years there are a whole bunch of players that sign for three or more years but are sidelined, and eventually sold, long before their contracts expire. There are the exceptions, I know that, but generally speaking Fergy bought for instant impact and not for long term future. How many players are currently in the United starting 18 that have transitioned out of their DS in the last three years?

I might be talking a load of crap, but it's my crap and I am entitled to it.
:-)).

Oscar, by contrast, is coaching, he is bringing out the best in players and he is moving lads forward from our DS whilst also making some changes to how we play.
Of course you're entitled to your opinion, but on this occasion, I don't agree with it!
We could both throw statistics and names around to prove a point on Fergie, and I totally disagree with your premise, but its not about him, even if you did make the comparison.
But, once again, your suggestion that Poyet is choosing the transfer market over coaching is nonsense. You say he could've worked with the squad to show them what he wanted and that is EXACTLY what he's obviously done since joining. In the last week, he's signed an Argentinian centre half and a goalkeeper on loan and is now trying to do nothing more than most managers at the moment - improve the squad for immediate impact. That's because his new bosses want Premiership football next season at all costs. And he's certainly doing nothing more than most of us want OUR club to do, so you can't castigate him for that. It's undeniable he's made significant improvements to their play and results since he's been there - and for most of it without the aid of a transfer window.
Poyet didn't achieve a reputation at Brighton without being able to work with players on the training ground and to that point i think you're being selective with the facts to try and prove a point. As for OG, is he a 'good' coach or a 'better' coach? To be frank, I don't know and I'm not sure that most supporters are equipped to make that judgement anyway. We base most of our views on nothing more than perception.
As Cloughie once said, we can debate this for a while and then we'll agree I was right all along!!! Enjoy your day
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Albion In Staffs. You may or may not agree that Ferguson is one of the biggest spending managers in the history of the game, and I am talking of averages as every year records seem to get broken, but I doubt any club has spent money on the scale that Fergy did. One of the reasons why so many people didn't like United was simply because they could, and did, buy the best players, they had the money to do it, people were jealous of their spending power. One of the last deals that Fergy completed was the purchase of Zaha, 11 million rising to 15 million with add ons, did he really evaluate that lad before buying him or was this just another United purchase. Yeah I'll grant you, the squad Poyet inherited was full of individuals that didn't make a team, but could he not have worked with them, got them to see what he wanted, what he expected. I think Poyet will keep Sunderland in the prem, as I said he knows how to identify a good signing, but as a coach, sorry he does not make the grade for me. If you look back over Fergy's transfer dealings over the years there are a whole bunch of players that sign for three or more years but are sidelined, and eventually sold, long before their contracts expire. There are the exceptions, I know that, but generally speaking Fergy bought for instant impact and not for long term future. How many players are currently in the United starting 18 that have transitioned out of their DS in the last three years? I might be talking a load of crap, but it's my crap and I am entitled to it. :-)). Oscar, by contrast, is coaching, he is bringing out the best in players and he is moving lads forward from our DS whilst also making some changes to how we play.[/p][/quote]Of course you're entitled to your opinion, but on this occasion, I don't agree with it! We could both throw statistics and names around to prove a point on Fergie, and I totally disagree with your premise, but its not about him, even if you did make the comparison. But, once again, your suggestion that Poyet is choosing the transfer market over coaching is nonsense. You say he could've worked with the squad to show them what he wanted and that is EXACTLY what he's obviously done since joining. In the last week, he's signed an Argentinian centre half and a goalkeeper on loan and is now trying to do nothing more than most managers at the moment - improve the squad for immediate impact. That's because his new bosses want Premiership football next season at all costs. And he's certainly doing nothing more than most of us want OUR club to do, so you can't castigate him for that. It's undeniable he's made significant improvements to their play and results since he's been there - and for most of it without the aid of a transfer window. Poyet didn't achieve a reputation at Brighton without being able to work with players on the training ground and to that point i think you're being selective with the facts to try and prove a point. As for OG, is he a 'good' coach or a 'better' coach? To be frank, I don't know and I'm not sure that most supporters are equipped to make that judgement anyway. We base most of our views on nothing more than perception. As Cloughie once said, we can debate this for a while and then we'll agree I was right all along!!! Enjoy your day Albion In Staffs
  • Score: -1

7:35pm Fri 24 Jan 14

jockithenoo says...

Claude Back wrote:
albion64 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
A bidding war will do for me....

The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him.

Uta
Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans.

Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA
You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'.
Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too.
G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator.
So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.
Listen to you telling us you're a fan fanatic and all that stuff
You forgot PRATT THAT'S YOU! !!
Going On about poyet then slagging our current manager.
Two completely different types of manager
Oscar is a silent tactician give him time and a full season with a full squad
PRATT
WE MARCH ON
UTA
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: A bidding war will do for me.... The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him. Uta[/p][/quote]Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans. Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA[/p][/quote]You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'. Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too. G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator. So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.[/p][/quote]Listen to you telling us you're a fan fanatic and all that stuff You forgot PRATT THAT'S YOU! !! Going On about poyet then slagging our current manager. Two completely different types of manager Oscar is a silent tactician give him time and a full season with a full squad PRATT WE MARCH ON UTA jockithenoo
  • Score: 4

7:35pm Fri 24 Jan 14

ringtone says...

Claude Back wrote:
albion64 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
A bidding war will do for me....

The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him.

Uta
Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans.

Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA
You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'.
Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too.
G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator.
So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.
Well said Claude.

One of the top five posts of all time on this site.

At lasts somebody able to raise the bar.
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: A bidding war will do for me.... The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him. Uta[/p][/quote]Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans. Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA[/p][/quote]You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'. Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too. G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator. So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.[/p][/quote]Well said Claude. One of the top five posts of all time on this site. At lasts somebody able to raise the bar. ringtone
  • Score: -4

7:37pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Chi Gull says...

OldGull wrote:
Chi Gull wrote:
If Liam goes, I just hope we have our plans in place to spend the dosh. The Club has had long enough to think about it. The same goes for Buckley.

I am with Claude re. Gus. The positives he brought to our club far outweigh any negatives and he seems to be doing a fantastic job at Sunderland and has all the fans on his side. OG lacks a bit of passion and he isn't as confident as Gus with his spoken english so we don't hear enough from him directly. Can't argue with the job he has done so far, but the next few weeks will decide whether he is taking the club forwards or if we have stalled.
The time to judge OG will be next season.

He has done a good job considering the pre season and Injuries.
My personal view would be not to spend rashly this week.
By all means bring one or two in as cover.
Keep the money as a war chest for a big effort next season.

I thank Gus for how far he brought us. I hope he keeps Sunderland up.
I believe OG will take us into the prem even if it takes 2 more seasons.
UTA
Believe me I back OG and the team on here far more than most, including a few who have been rubbishing the last weeks of Poyet's regime.

I don't believe anything Poyet did in the play offs really affected the teams performance on the pitch. GP was always very loyal to the team, whatever he thought of Barber and Bloom at the end. We did after all, finish the season on a 9 game undefeated run that took us from 8th to 4th. If we had taken our chances at Smelhurst we would have been ahead on the 1st leg. We hit the bar and had one cleared off the line before Zaha scored.

A lot of the posters rubbishing Gus are the same ones getting frustrated about our lack of a few star signings. If you as fans are feeling frustrated just think how Gus was feeling. As a fan over a very long period, I hope we continue to progress, but I wont stop supporting our team whatever happens over the next few months. I respect the massive investment being made in our club by TB and I am sure that OG and NJ will get the best out of the squad we have.
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chi Gull[/bold] wrote: If Liam goes, I just hope we have our plans in place to spend the dosh. The Club has had long enough to think about it. The same goes for Buckley. I am with Claude re. Gus. The positives he brought to our club far outweigh any negatives and he seems to be doing a fantastic job at Sunderland and has all the fans on his side. OG lacks a bit of passion and he isn't as confident as Gus with his spoken english so we don't hear enough from him directly. Can't argue with the job he has done so far, but the next few weeks will decide whether he is taking the club forwards or if we have stalled.[/p][/quote]The time to judge OG will be next season. He has done a good job considering the pre season and Injuries. My personal view would be not to spend rashly this week. By all means bring one or two in as cover. Keep the money as a war chest for a big effort next season. I thank Gus for how far he brought us. I hope he keeps Sunderland up. I believe OG will take us into the prem even if it takes 2 more seasons. UTA[/p][/quote]Believe me I back OG and the team on here far more than most, including a few who have been rubbishing the last weeks of Poyet's regime. I don't believe anything Poyet did in the play offs really affected the teams performance on the pitch. GP was always very loyal to the team, whatever he thought of Barber and Bloom at the end. We did after all, finish the season on a 9 game undefeated run that took us from 8th to 4th. If we had taken our chances at Smelhurst we would have been ahead on the 1st leg. We hit the bar and had one cleared off the line before Zaha scored. A lot of the posters rubbishing Gus are the same ones getting frustrated about our lack of a few star signings. If you as fans are feeling frustrated just think how Gus was feeling. As a fan over a very long period, I hope we continue to progress, but I wont stop supporting our team whatever happens over the next few months. I respect the massive investment being made in our club by TB and I am sure that OG and NJ will get the best out of the squad we have. Chi Gull
  • Score: 4

7:45pm Fri 24 Jan 14

albion64 says...

WestStander17 wrote:
albion64 wrote:
WestStander17 wrote:
With Claude on this one. Except his comments about Oscar!

Albion64, for a "travelling circus" as you put it, Gus' formula and philosophy is doing pretty well! Transformed our style of play from the depths of League One and took us very close to the top of the Championship. Now Sunderland seem to be improving fast and are already in a major cup final. If that's a "circus", I'd love to know what you think Moyes is running at United!

Some don't seem to like the fact that Gus is so hungry to get to the top. Some ego involved too, maybe, but if it helps then so what? He is proving just how good he is at what he does. It's different if someone has ego but is also actually not that good. The old Crawley manager springs to mind. But Gus IS good. He wants to get right to the top (shouldn't we all?!) and the way he has started, he might well get there! If he helps other clubs (us and possibly Sunderland) on the way then that's great.

Yes, the way it ended may not have been pretty (as others have said, no-one really knows what exactly happened) but he has put our club in a great position on the field. If he thought that was as high as we could go for now, that's more a worry for us than him.

We got to choose who we wanted to take us on from there. We chose Oscar and he's doing well so far under what seem much tighter reins than Gus would ever have agreed to. I just hope we are able to get the full benefit of Oscar's talents in this system so that he can take us further. He might have a shot at the Barca job in the future then which, sorry all the sensitive ones out there, must be a hope of his one day!

I hope they both get to their ultimate goals and by helping us along the way!
No one denies what he did for us WestStander 17. If people love him so much go and watch Sunderland. Otherwise get behind our man and the team.

It is very early days for Sunderland anyhow. Football has a way of biting you on the bum, on a regular basis. We'll see. UTA
When did I say I wasn't behind Oscar?!

If/when I get chance, I certainly will watch Sunderland on the tv now as I know the type of Football they will play. And against most I will want them to win.

Let's all hope Oscar can coach whoever he is given as successfully as Gus lead us!
I was talking about previous posts and not accusing you of not getting behind Oscar. Enjoy watching Sunderland, you will be able to see them in the flesh at the Amex next season : )
[quote][p][bold]WestStander17[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WestStander17[/bold] wrote: With Claude on this one. Except his comments about Oscar! Albion64, for a "travelling circus" as you put it, Gus' formula and philosophy is doing pretty well! Transformed our style of play from the depths of League One and took us very close to the top of the Championship. Now Sunderland seem to be improving fast and are already in a major cup final. If that's a "circus", I'd love to know what you think Moyes is running at United! Some don't seem to like the fact that Gus is so hungry to get to the top. Some ego involved too, maybe, but if it helps then so what? He is proving just how good he is at what he does. It's different if someone has ego but is also actually not that good. The old Crawley manager springs to mind. But Gus IS good. He wants to get right to the top (shouldn't we all?!) and the way he has started, he might well get there! If he helps other clubs (us and possibly Sunderland) on the way then that's great. Yes, the way it ended may not have been pretty (as others have said, no-one really knows what exactly happened) but he has put our club in a great position on the field. If he thought that was as high as we could go for now, that's more a worry for us than him. We got to choose who we wanted to take us on from there. We chose Oscar and he's doing well so far under what seem much tighter reins than Gus would ever have agreed to. I just hope we are able to get the full benefit of Oscar's talents in this system so that he can take us further. He might have a shot at the Barca job in the future then which, sorry all the sensitive ones out there, must be a hope of his one day! I hope they both get to their ultimate goals and by helping us along the way![/p][/quote]No one denies what he did for us WestStander 17. If people love him so much go and watch Sunderland. Otherwise get behind our man and the team. It is very early days for Sunderland anyhow. Football has a way of biting you on the bum, on a regular basis. We'll see. UTA[/p][/quote]When did I say I wasn't behind Oscar?! If/when I get chance, I certainly will watch Sunderland on the tv now as I know the type of Football they will play. And against most I will want them to win. Let's all hope Oscar can coach whoever he is given as successfully as Gus lead us![/p][/quote]I was talking about previous posts and not accusing you of not getting behind Oscar. Enjoy watching Sunderland, you will be able to see them in the flesh at the Amex next season : ) albion64
  • Score: 3

7:46pm Fri 24 Jan 14

ringtone says...

jockithenoo wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
albion64 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
A bidding war will do for me....

The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him.

Uta
Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans.

Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA
You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'.
Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too.
G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator.
So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.
Listen to you telling us you're a fan fanatic and all that stuff
You forgot PRATT THAT'S YOU! !!
Going On about poyet then slagging our current manager.
Two completely different types of manager
Oscar is a silent tactician give him time and a full season with a full squad
PRATT
WE MARCH ON
UTA
Mr P. ratt, we march on?

You are not in the army dear boy.

But you are on a road to nowhere.
[quote][p][bold]jockithenoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: A bidding war will do for me.... The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him. Uta[/p][/quote]Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans. Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA[/p][/quote]You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'. Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too. G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator. So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.[/p][/quote]Listen to you telling us you're a fan fanatic and all that stuff You forgot PRATT THAT'S YOU! !! Going On about poyet then slagging our current manager. Two completely different types of manager Oscar is a silent tactician give him time and a full season with a full squad PRATT WE MARCH ON UTA[/p][/quote]Mr P. ratt, we march on? You are not in the army dear boy. But you are on a road to nowhere. ringtone
  • Score: -1

7:52pm Fri 24 Jan 14

albion64 says...

jockithenoo wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
albion64 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
A bidding war will do for me....

The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him.

Uta
Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans.

Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA
You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'.
Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too.
G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator.
So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.
Listen to you telling us you're a fan fanatic and all that stuff
You forgot PRATT THAT'S YOU! !!
Going On about poyet then slagging our current manager.
Two completely different types of manager
Oscar is a silent tactician give him time and a full season with a full squad
PRATT
WE MARCH ON
UTA
I agree totally. UTA
[quote][p][bold]jockithenoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: A bidding war will do for me.... The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him. Uta[/p][/quote]Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans. Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA[/p][/quote]You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'. Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too. G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator. So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.[/p][/quote]Listen to you telling us you're a fan fanatic and all that stuff You forgot PRATT THAT'S YOU! !! Going On about poyet then slagging our current manager. Two completely different types of manager Oscar is a silent tactician give him time and a full season with a full squad PRATT WE MARCH ON UTA[/p][/quote]I agree totally. UTA albion64
  • Score: 2

7:53pm Fri 24 Jan 14

ringtone says...

albion64 wrote:
WestStander17 wrote:
albion64 wrote:
WestStander17 wrote:
With Claude on this one. Except his comments about Oscar!

Albion64, for a "travelling circus" as you put it, Gus' formula and philosophy is doing pretty well! Transformed our style of play from the depths of League One and took us very close to the top of the Championship. Now Sunderland seem to be improving fast and are already in a major cup final. If that's a "circus", I'd love to know what you think Moyes is running at United!

Some don't seem to like the fact that Gus is so hungry to get to the top. Some ego involved too, maybe, but if it helps then so what? He is proving just how good he is at what he does. It's different if someone has ego but is also actually not that good. The old Crawley manager springs to mind. But Gus IS good. He wants to get right to the top (shouldn't we all?!) and the way he has started, he might well get there! If he helps other clubs (us and possibly Sunderland) on the way then that's great.

Yes, the way it ended may not have been pretty (as others have said, no-one really knows what exactly happened) but he has put our club in a great position on the field. If he thought that was as high as we could go for now, that's more a worry for us than him.

We got to choose who we wanted to take us on from there. We chose Oscar and he's doing well so far under what seem much tighter reins than Gus would ever have agreed to. I just hope we are able to get the full benefit of Oscar's talents in this system so that he can take us further. He might have a shot at the Barca job in the future then which, sorry all the sensitive ones out there, must be a hope of his one day!

I hope they both get to their ultimate goals and by helping us along the way!
No one denies what he did for us WestStander 17. If people love him so much go and watch Sunderland. Otherwise get behind our man and the team.

It is very early days for Sunderland anyhow. Football has a way of biting you on the bum, on a regular basis. We'll see. UTA
When did I say I wasn't behind Oscar?!

If/when I get chance, I certainly will watch Sunderland on the tv now as I know the type of Football they will play. And against most I will want them to win.

Let's all hope Oscar can coach whoever he is given as successfully as Gus lead us!
I was talking about previous posts and not accusing you of not getting behind Oscar. Enjoy watching Sunderland, you will be able to see them in the flesh at the Amex next season : )
Another so called fan writing us off., saying we will still be in the championship next season

Lets get behind Oscar, nobody will see us if he wears that stupid puffa jacket like at the Derby match.
[quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WestStander17[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WestStander17[/bold] wrote: With Claude on this one. Except his comments about Oscar! Albion64, for a "travelling circus" as you put it, Gus' formula and philosophy is doing pretty well! Transformed our style of play from the depths of League One and took us very close to the top of the Championship. Now Sunderland seem to be improving fast and are already in a major cup final. If that's a "circus", I'd love to know what you think Moyes is running at United! Some don't seem to like the fact that Gus is so hungry to get to the top. Some ego involved too, maybe, but if it helps then so what? He is proving just how good he is at what he does. It's different if someone has ego but is also actually not that good. The old Crawley manager springs to mind. But Gus IS good. He wants to get right to the top (shouldn't we all?!) and the way he has started, he might well get there! If he helps other clubs (us and possibly Sunderland) on the way then that's great. Yes, the way it ended may not have been pretty (as others have said, no-one really knows what exactly happened) but he has put our club in a great position on the field. If he thought that was as high as we could go for now, that's more a worry for us than him. We got to choose who we wanted to take us on from there. We chose Oscar and he's doing well so far under what seem much tighter reins than Gus would ever have agreed to. I just hope we are able to get the full benefit of Oscar's talents in this system so that he can take us further. He might have a shot at the Barca job in the future then which, sorry all the sensitive ones out there, must be a hope of his one day! I hope they both get to their ultimate goals and by helping us along the way![/p][/quote]No one denies what he did for us WestStander 17. If people love him so much go and watch Sunderland. Otherwise get behind our man and the team. It is very early days for Sunderland anyhow. Football has a way of biting you on the bum, on a regular basis. We'll see. UTA[/p][/quote]When did I say I wasn't behind Oscar?! If/when I get chance, I certainly will watch Sunderland on the tv now as I know the type of Football they will play. And against most I will want them to win. Let's all hope Oscar can coach whoever he is given as successfully as Gus lead us![/p][/quote]I was talking about previous posts and not accusing you of not getting behind Oscar. Enjoy watching Sunderland, you will be able to see them in the flesh at the Amex next season : )[/p][/quote]Another so called fan writing us off., saying we will still be in the championship next season Lets get behind Oscar, nobody will see us if he wears that stupid puffa jacket like at the Derby match. ringtone
  • Score: -2

7:59pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Clean Sheet says...

Sorry Vegas, while I agree with many of your posts, I disagree with your summation about GP's coaching. Many Brighton players benefitted from his coaching, including Bridders, El Abd, Barnes to name a few. For me, only CMS failed to progress under GP.
I have no idea what went wrong in the end, and frankly don't care. Oscar is our Coach, and I think doing a good job. We are having a clear out now, and will sign a few players by the end of Jan. however, Brighton does not do transfers in the spotlight. Announcements are made when the deal is done, and not before, which for me is perfectly correct.
Sorry Vegas, while I agree with many of your posts, I disagree with your summation about GP's coaching. Many Brighton players benefitted from his coaching, including Bridders, El Abd, Barnes to name a few. For me, only CMS failed to progress under GP. I have no idea what went wrong in the end, and frankly don't care. Oscar is our Coach, and I think doing a good job. We are having a clear out now, and will sign a few players by the end of Jan. however, Brighton does not do transfers in the spotlight. Announcements are made when the deal is done, and not before, which for me is perfectly correct. Clean Sheet
  • Score: 7

8:08pm Fri 24 Jan 14

ringtone says...

Evening all.

Another article for your consumption http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/25
879641

I think he means it stinks, maybe we have a suspect for Pooyet gate.
Evening all. Another article for your consumption http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/25 879641 I think he means it stinks, maybe we have a suspect for Pooyet gate. ringtone
  • Score: -2

8:22pm Fri 24 Jan 14

raymondo999 says...

This is a very interesting thread. Lots of discussion about GP. Some level headed, others vitriolic. The interesting thing about an internet debate is that you find yourself in discussion with types you wouldn't normally bother to discuss things with. It's a great leveller. Maybe we should all declare which part of the ground we sit, or stand, in. Then those of us in the executive boxes could see that we don't really need to interact with the North standers. As for those in the USA who offer us their pseudo analyst views from the side of their swimming pools.......only joking guys.
This is a very interesting thread. Lots of discussion about GP. Some level headed, others vitriolic. The interesting thing about an internet debate is that you find yourself in discussion with types you wouldn't normally bother to discuss things with. It's a great leveller. Maybe we should all declare which part of the ground we sit, or stand, in. Then those of us in the executive boxes could see that we don't really need to interact with the North standers. As for those in the USA who offer us their pseudo analyst views from the side of their swimming pools.......only joking guys. raymondo999
  • Score: 0

9:07pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Baldseagull says...

Claude Back wrote:
albion64 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
A bidding war will do for me....

The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him.

Uta
Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans.

Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA
You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'.
Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too.
G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator.
So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.
Maybe I am confusing you with another, but I seem to remember you often complaining about the slow build up under Poyet, I would have thought Oscar was more up your street.
Gus was very good for us, but he made it clear at the end that he felt he was bigger than the club, we had hit our ceiling, and to say that publicly is disrespectful to the club and its supporters, even if it is true (which it isn't).
It is interesting that he interested in a number of our Championship ceiling players to improve his Premiership side.
I am sure Gus will continue to do well, but I am much happier to have Oscar, I find I don't need to make excuses for him to myself for the things he says or does and I hope he is our man for many years.
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: A bidding war will do for me.... The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him. Uta[/p][/quote]Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans. Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA[/p][/quote]You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'. Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too. G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator. So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.[/p][/quote]Maybe I am confusing you with another, but I seem to remember you often complaining about the slow build up under Poyet, I would have thought Oscar was more up your street. Gus was very good for us, but he made it clear at the end that he felt he was bigger than the club, we had hit our ceiling, and to say that publicly is disrespectful to the club and its supporters, even if it is true (which it isn't). It is interesting that he interested in a number of our Championship ceiling players to improve his Premiership side. I am sure Gus will continue to do well, but I am much happier to have Oscar, I find I don't need to make excuses for him to myself for the things he says or does and I hope he is our man for many years. Baldseagull
  • Score: 9

9:09pm Fri 24 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

According to Sky, Sunderland are edging closer to signing Bridcutt, they say that talks are, 'ongoing.'
According to Sky, Sunderland are edging closer to signing Bridcutt, they say that talks are, 'ongoing.' VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

9:11pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Far gull says...

Some very passionate points of view today.! Don't agree with general slagging off of fans supposing to support the same side but we are entitled to our own view.
I was gutted with Gus's behaviour at the end of our season and felt for TB having to deal with his decision to leave so early. Actually I wonder many scenario's but it is history. Gus is moving in the right direction with Sunderland time will tell but good luck as he did many good things for us.
For now my main concern is everyone saying we are building for next season.
B........s . We are 7th not 17th,we may take another 5 yrs to get to 7 the again there are just to many sides with more prem money than us . I hope ffp is enforced but don't hold to many hopes , think like tax to many of big guns will find loop holes.
May be we need ,and no doubt Tony has this in mind,to attract a bigger investor ,leaving Tony still in charge . Until this happens looking at the current window( I know it's not over ! ) nothing very inspiring doing I feel ,which is a massive shame. Last year we had the buzz of Leo coming in . See the effect ( albeit at a higher level) of Ozil,see how Mata raises the spirit at Utd. We need that effect as fans and clearly the players still with us need it going on their comments. We have debt ,yes . But the biggest gates in this league ,do we really want to return to 15,000 gates and mid table or worse ?
Hope Barber and Burke realise that fans not going to flock in droves for 17 th position. There will be no money to argue about then for top signings it really will be about home grown talent then. I think this is what got under Gus's skin as he knew this would bring his ambitions to a grinding halt and rightly he was ambitious ,for himself and which ever club he managed.
Some very passionate points of view today.! Don't agree with general slagging off of fans supposing to support the same side but we are entitled to our own view. I was gutted with Gus's behaviour at the end of our season and felt for TB having to deal with his decision to leave so early. Actually I wonder many scenario's but it is history. Gus is moving in the right direction with Sunderland time will tell but good luck as he did many good things for us. For now my main concern is everyone saying we are building for next season. B........s . We are 7th not 17th,we may take another 5 yrs to get to 7 the again there are just to many sides with more prem money than us . I hope ffp is enforced but don't hold to many hopes , think like tax to many of big guns will find loop holes. May be we need ,and no doubt Tony has this in mind,to attract a bigger investor ,leaving Tony still in charge . Until this happens looking at the current window( I know it's not over ! ) nothing very inspiring doing I feel ,which is a massive shame. Last year we had the buzz of Leo coming in . See the effect ( albeit at a higher level) of Ozil,see how Mata raises the spirit at Utd. We need that effect as fans and clearly the players still with us need it going on their comments. We have debt ,yes . But the biggest gates in this league ,do we really want to return to 15,000 gates and mid table or worse ? Hope Barber and Burke realise that fans not going to flock in droves for 17 th position. There will be no money to argue about then for top signings it really will be about home grown talent then. I think this is what got under Gus's skin as he knew this would bring his ambitions to a grinding halt and rightly he was ambitious ,for himself and which ever club he managed. Far gull
  • Score: -2

9:12pm Fri 24 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
According to Sky, Sunderland are edging closer to signing Bridcutt, they say that talks are, 'ongoing.'
Here's a thought for you guys, how about we let Bridders go to Sunderland with zero money involved, but we take two players in payment, pick your own realistic options that we might ask for.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: According to Sky, Sunderland are edging closer to signing Bridcutt, they say that talks are, 'ongoing.'[/p][/quote]Here's a thought for you guys, how about we let Bridders go to Sunderland with zero money involved, but we take two players in payment, pick your own realistic options that we might ask for. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -2

9:15pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Albion In Staffs says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
According to Sky, Sunderland are edging closer to signing Bridcutt, they say that talks are, 'ongoing.'
Here's a thought for you guys, how about we let Bridders go to Sunderland with zero money involved, but we take two players in payment, pick your own realistic options that we might ask for.
Why? It isn't going to happen.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: According to Sky, Sunderland are edging closer to signing Bridcutt, they say that talks are, 'ongoing.'[/p][/quote]Here's a thought for you guys, how about we let Bridders go to Sunderland with zero money involved, but we take two players in payment, pick your own realistic options that we might ask for.[/p][/quote]Why? It isn't going to happen. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 2

9:18pm Fri 24 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
According to Sky, Sunderland are edging closer to signing Bridcutt, they say that talks are, 'ongoing.'
Here's a thought for you guys, how about we let Bridders go to Sunderland with zero money involved, but we take two players in payment, pick your own realistic options that we might ask for.
Why? It isn't going to happen.
Maybe not, but as we have to buy players why not do a deal and end all the uncertainty whilst also satisfying two of our needs.

I would choose Carlos Cuellar CB, and Mavrias MF.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: According to Sky, Sunderland are edging closer to signing Bridcutt, they say that talks are, 'ongoing.'[/p][/quote]Here's a thought for you guys, how about we let Bridders go to Sunderland with zero money involved, but we take two players in payment, pick your own realistic options that we might ask for.[/p][/quote]Why? It isn't going to happen.[/p][/quote]Maybe not, but as we have to buy players why not do a deal and end all the uncertainty whilst also satisfying two of our needs. I would choose Carlos Cuellar CB, and Mavrias MF. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -2

9:20pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Claude Back says...

ringtone wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
albion64 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
A bidding war will do for me....

The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him.

Uta
Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans.

Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA
You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'.
Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too.
G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator.
So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.
Well said Claude.

One of the top five posts of all time on this site.

At lasts somebody able to raise the bar.
Nice reference to the 'Bar'.
Very clever.
I have always enjoyed your posts as they are humourous and have never been fooled to think there is not an agile mind behind the trolling and wind-ups. ;-)
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: A bidding war will do for me.... The more we can get for LB, the better... I really hope that someone other than Sunderland get him. Uta[/p][/quote]Yes, let's all ring the other clubs telling them how good he is. The price will go up and Pooyet and his travelling circus will miss out. All these idiots who keep sticking up for our ex manager clearly aren't true Albion fans. Believe in Oscar. Come on you Seagulls. UTA[/p][/quote]You are the idiot. 'Fan' is short for fanatic and with fanaticism comes not much sense but all the petty, parochial pretensions and anything else that begins with 'p'. Most of us are supporters and for a very long time too. G.P. is an excellent manager and is proving it with Sunderland. Most sensible people can see that. I fear he will be a big loss to our (yes, our) Club. He has a real eye for talent and is a good motivator. So, he was dismissed. So what? Do you know the truth? No, you do not. Nobody on here knows why he went... and please don't rehearse all those 'Gross Misconduct theories. Through legal connections I have a fair idea but I am not going to divulge that on an open Forum. Yes, he could be pain in the ar*e sometimes but he did well for the Albion. Do you really think O.G. will do as well? Really? I don't. Oscar seems a nice guy but has all the passion of a Brussels's sprout. Very little 'go' in him so it seems. I hope I am wrong.[/p][/quote]Well said Claude. One of the top five posts of all time on this site. At lasts somebody able to raise the bar.[/p][/quote]Nice reference to the 'Bar'. Very clever. I have always enjoyed your posts as they are humourous and have never been fooled to think there is not an agile mind behind the trolling and wind-ups. ;-) Claude Back
  • Score: -2

10:15pm Fri 24 Jan 14

searich1983 says...

Stop talking about GP, this page is about Andy Naylor trying to say what the club want him to say: "Bridcutt has also been monitored previously by the likes of Swansea, Norwich and Fulham, so Poyet could face competition for his No.1 January target."
The club is trying to get someone to offer money for Bridcutt but in reality we got no offer apart from the Sunderland one, so either he goes to Sunderland or he stays in Brighton.
Mr Naylor, please inform us with proper facts and stop being a Club Media Messenger.
Stop talking about GP, this page is about Andy Naylor trying to say what the club want him to say: "Bridcutt has also been monitored previously by the likes of Swansea, Norwich and Fulham, so Poyet could face competition for his No.1 January target." The club is trying to get someone to offer money for Bridcutt but in reality we got no offer apart from the Sunderland one, so either he goes to Sunderland or he stays in Brighton. Mr Naylor, please inform us with proper facts and stop being a Club Media Messenger. searich1983
  • Score: 2

11:18pm Fri 24 Jan 14

OldGull says...

seegull fly in sky wrote:
Brodclott e um lyke biskit e getum biskit a wim bonoss e swionsee
F*** Me
5 thumbs up
there sure are some D***s on here
[quote][p][bold]seegull fly in sky[/bold] wrote: Brodclott e um lyke biskit e getum biskit a wim bonoss e swionsee[/p][/quote]F*** Me 5 thumbs up there sure are some D***s on here OldGull
  • Score: 0

11:26pm Fri 24 Jan 14

OldGull says...

dave from bexill wrote:
saraman wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
saraman wrote:
magicmenagerie wrote: I am amazed at the Gus Poyet hate on here. You're not fans of the Albion if that's how you feel. He built us a great footballing team and got very close to the Premier League. Team was a joy to watch. Proper football. No, the end was not pretty - endings rarely are - but grow up a bit and take a balanced view - he was good for us, we were good for him, things move on. Take the hate away, it's ugly and actually rather childish.
I'm a 100% Albion fan, but that does not prevent me from hating the very name of Poyet (aaagh). Yes he did do a lot of good for our club but no way does it excuse him for the despicable way he acted at the back end of last season. To my way of thinking he should have been hung, drawn and quartered for treason and his head placed on the highest point of The Amex for the SEAGULLS to devour. I know it's emotionally over the top,but that's how feel, and no apologies would ever be entertained, childish or not. There, I feel better now.
Saraman, you're obviously in the know, so perhaps you can tell us what exactly did happen at the and of his reign and more importantly, who told you. Please share as it would be interesting to have the definitive answer. Thank you in anticipation of your reply.
Gross misconduct. Were you not aware of that, it filled the headlines for weeks and still does occassionally?

If that was good enough for Tony Bloom, it is good enough for me and for MOST on here I might add.
Ok, I just wondered whether or not you know the actual details of the gross misconduct, that is the facts and not just the heresay, particularly as Gus Poyet hasn't responded.
You may have noticed Gus has dropped his challenge against his sacking.
If he was genuinely Innocent he would have defended himself.
But Sunderland came calling so he back tracked to land the job.

So who do you believe GP or TB?

I will stick with TB

But I will also thank GP for getting us to within 90mins of the prem.
Even if he did screw up at the end

In TB we trust
UTA
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]magicmenagerie[/bold] wrote: I am amazed at the Gus Poyet hate on here. You're not fans of the Albion if that's how you feel. He built us a great footballing team and got very close to the Premier League. Team was a joy to watch. Proper football. No, the end was not pretty - endings rarely are - but grow up a bit and take a balanced view - he was good for us, we were good for him, things move on. Take the hate away, it's ugly and actually rather childish.[/p][/quote]I'm a 100% Albion fan, but that does not prevent me from hating the very name of Poyet (aaagh). Yes he did do a lot of good for our club but no way does it excuse him for the despicable way he acted at the back end of last season. To my way of thinking he should have been hung, drawn and quartered for treason and his head placed on the highest point of The Amex for the SEAGULLS to devour. I know it's emotionally over the top,but that's how feel, and no apologies would ever be entertained, childish or not. There, I feel better now.[/p][/quote]Saraman, you're obviously in the know, so perhaps you can tell us what exactly did happen at the and of his reign and more importantly, who told you. Please share as it would be interesting to have the definitive answer. Thank you in anticipation of your reply.[/p][/quote]Gross misconduct. Were you not aware of that, it filled the headlines for weeks and still does occassionally? If that was good enough for Tony Bloom, it is good enough for me and for MOST on here I might add.[/p][/quote]Ok, I just wondered whether or not you know the actual details of the gross misconduct, that is the facts and not just the heresay, particularly as Gus Poyet hasn't responded.[/p][/quote]You may have noticed Gus has dropped his challenge against his sacking. If he was genuinely Innocent he would have defended himself. But Sunderland came calling so he back tracked to land the job. So who do you believe GP or TB? I will stick with TB But I will also thank GP for getting us to within 90mins of the prem. Even if he did screw up at the end In TB we trust UTA OldGull
  • Score: 3

12:04am Sat 25 Jan 14

oksouthstander says...

Sky Sports : We understand Sunderland are edging closer to agreeing a deal to sign Brighton midfielder Liam Bridcutt. Talks are ongoing between both clubs with the player keen to make move to be reunited with Gus Poyet...
So whats the deal...Danny Graham plus 4 M...
Sky Sports : We understand Sunderland are edging closer to agreeing a deal to sign Brighton midfielder Liam Bridcutt. Talks are ongoing between both clubs with the player keen to make move to be reunited with Gus Poyet... So whats the deal...Danny Graham plus 4 M... oksouthstander
  • Score: 2

12:45am Sat 25 Jan 14

WestStander17 says...

albion64 wrote:
WestStander17 wrote:
albion64 wrote:
WestStander17 wrote: With Claude on this one. Except his comments about Oscar! Albion64, for a "travelling circus" as you put it, Gus' formula and philosophy is doing pretty well! Transformed our style of play from the depths of League One and took us very close to the top of the Championship. Now Sunderland seem to be improving fast and are already in a major cup final. If that's a "circus", I'd love to know what you think Moyes is running at United! Some don't seem to like the fact that Gus is so hungry to get to the top. Some ego involved too, maybe, but if it helps then so what? He is proving just how good he is at what he does. It's different if someone has ego but is also actually not that good. The old Crawley manager springs to mind. But Gus IS good. He wants to get right to the top (shouldn't we all?!) and the way he has started, he might well get there! If he helps other clubs (us and possibly Sunderland) on the way then that's great. Yes, the way it ended may not have been pretty (as others have said, no-one really knows what exactly happened) but he has put our club in a great position on the field. If he thought that was as high as we could go for now, that's more a worry for us than him. We got to choose who we wanted to take us on from there. We chose Oscar and he's doing well so far under what seem much tighter reins than Gus would ever have agreed to. I just hope we are able to get the full benefit of Oscar's talents in this system so that he can take us further. He might have a shot at the Barca job in the future then which, sorry all the sensitive ones out there, must be a hope of his one day! I hope they both get to their ultimate goals and by helping us along the way!
No one denies what he did for us WestStander 17. If people love him so much go and watch Sunderland. Otherwise get behind our man and the team. It is very early days for Sunderland anyhow. Football has a way of biting you on the bum, on a regular basis. We'll see. UTA
When did I say I wasn't behind Oscar?! If/when I get chance, I certainly will watch Sunderland on the tv now as I know the type of Football they will play. And against most I will want them to win. Let's all hope Oscar can coach whoever he is given as successfully as Gus lead us!
I was talking about previous posts and not accusing you of not getting behind Oscar. Enjoy watching Sunderland, you will be able to see them in the flesh at the Amex next season : )
Thank you. I hope you are right because I think it will mean we have hit the big time!!! :-)
[quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WestStander17[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WestStander17[/bold] wrote: With Claude on this one. Except his comments about Oscar! Albion64, for a "travelling circus" as you put it, Gus' formula and philosophy is doing pretty well! Transformed our style of play from the depths of League One and took us very close to the top of the Championship. Now Sunderland seem to be improving fast and are already in a major cup final. If that's a "circus", I'd love to know what you think Moyes is running at United! Some don't seem to like the fact that Gus is so hungry to get to the top. Some ego involved too, maybe, but if it helps then so what? He is proving just how good he is at what he does. It's different if someone has ego but is also actually not that good. The old Crawley manager springs to mind. But Gus IS good. He wants to get right to the top (shouldn't we all?!) and the way he has started, he might well get there! If he helps other clubs (us and possibly Sunderland) on the way then that's great. Yes, the way it ended may not have been pretty (as others have said, no-one really knows what exactly happened) but he has put our club in a great position on the field. If he thought that was as high as we could go for now, that's more a worry for us than him. We got to choose who we wanted to take us on from there. We chose Oscar and he's doing well so far under what seem much tighter reins than Gus would ever have agreed to. I just hope we are able to get the full benefit of Oscar's talents in this system so that he can take us further. He might have a shot at the Barca job in the future then which, sorry all the sensitive ones out there, must be a hope of his one day! I hope they both get to their ultimate goals and by helping us along the way![/p][/quote]No one denies what he did for us WestStander 17. If people love him so much go and watch Sunderland. Otherwise get behind our man and the team. It is very early days for Sunderland anyhow. Football has a way of biting you on the bum, on a regular basis. We'll see. UTA[/p][/quote]When did I say I wasn't behind Oscar?! If/when I get chance, I certainly will watch Sunderland on the tv now as I know the type of Football they will play. And against most I will want them to win. Let's all hope Oscar can coach whoever he is given as successfully as Gus lead us![/p][/quote]I was talking about previous posts and not accusing you of not getting behind Oscar. Enjoy watching Sunderland, you will be able to see them in the flesh at the Amex next season : )[/p][/quote]Thank you. I hope you are right because I think it will mean we have hit the big time!!! :-) WestStander17
  • Score: 2

3:33am Sat 25 Jan 14

mark by the sea says...

Time is ticking!!! Just talking to arsenal fan who says frimpong is available on loan or buy, this player was really rated .. Ideal replacement for bridcutt
Time is ticking!!! Just talking to arsenal fan who says frimpong is available on loan or buy, this player was really rated .. Ideal replacement for bridcutt mark by the sea
  • Score: 1

8:55am Sat 25 Jan 14

searich1983 says...

OldGull wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
saraman wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
saraman wrote:
magicmenagerie wrote: I am amazed at the Gus Poyet hate on here. You're not fans of the Albion if that's how you feel. He built us a great footballing team and got very close to the Premier League. Team was a joy to watch. Proper football. No, the end was not pretty - endings rarely are - but grow up a bit and take a balanced view - he was good for us, we were good for him, things move on. Take the hate away, it's ugly and actually rather childish.
I'm a 100% Albion fan, but that does not prevent me from hating the very name of Poyet (aaagh). Yes he did do a lot of good for our club but no way does it excuse him for the despicable way he acted at the back end of last season. To my way of thinking he should have been hung, drawn and quartered for treason and his head placed on the highest point of The Amex for the SEAGULLS to devour. I know it's emotionally over the top,but that's how feel, and no apologies would ever be entertained, childish or not. There, I feel better now.
Saraman, you're obviously in the know, so perhaps you can tell us what exactly did happen at the and of his reign and more importantly, who told you. Please share as it would be interesting to have the definitive answer. Thank you in anticipation of your reply.
Gross misconduct. Were you not aware of that, it filled the headlines for weeks and still does occassionally?

If that was good enough for Tony Bloom, it is good enough for me and for MOST on here I might add.
Ok, I just wondered whether or not you know the actual details of the gross misconduct, that is the facts and not just the heresay, particularly as Gus Poyet hasn't responded.
You may have noticed Gus has dropped his challenge against his sacking.
If he was genuinely Innocent he would have defended himself.
But Sunderland came calling so he back tracked to land the job.

So who do you believe GP or TB?

I will stick with TB

But I will also thank GP for getting us to within 90mins of the prem.
Even if he did screw up at the end

In TB we trust
UTA
OllGull, you won't agree with TB when he sell the club to the Australians who won't care about us, Big rumours about him trying just to get the money back asap, ??????
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]magicmenagerie[/bold] wrote: I am amazed at the Gus Poyet hate on here. You're not fans of the Albion if that's how you feel. He built us a great footballing team and got very close to the Premier League. Team was a joy to watch. Proper football. No, the end was not pretty - endings rarely are - but grow up a bit and take a balanced view - he was good for us, we were good for him, things move on. Take the hate away, it's ugly and actually rather childish.[/p][/quote]I'm a 100% Albion fan, but that does not prevent me from hating the very name of Poyet (aaagh). Yes he did do a lot of good for our club but no way does it excuse him for the despicable way he acted at the back end of last season. To my way of thinking he should have been hung, drawn and quartered for treason and his head placed on the highest point of The Amex for the SEAGULLS to devour. I know it's emotionally over the top,but that's how feel, and no apologies would ever be entertained, childish or not. There, I feel better now.[/p][/quote]Saraman, you're obviously in the know, so perhaps you can tell us what exactly did happen at the and of his reign and more importantly, who told you. Please share as it would be interesting to have the definitive answer. Thank you in anticipation of your reply.[/p][/quote]Gross misconduct. Were you not aware of that, it filled the headlines for weeks and still does occassionally? If that was good enough for Tony Bloom, it is good enough for me and for MOST on here I might add.[/p][/quote]Ok, I just wondered whether or not you know the actual details of the gross misconduct, that is the facts and not just the heresay, particularly as Gus Poyet hasn't responded.[/p][/quote]You may have noticed Gus has dropped his challenge against his sacking. If he was genuinely Innocent he would have defended himself. But Sunderland came calling so he back tracked to land the job. So who do you believe GP or TB? I will stick with TB But I will also thank GP for getting us to within 90mins of the prem. Even if he did screw up at the end In TB we trust UTA[/p][/quote]OllGull, you won't agree with TB when he sell the club to the Australians who won't care about us, Big rumours about him trying just to get the money back asap, ?????? searich1983
  • Score: -1

11:36am Sat 25 Jan 14

albion64 says...

WestStander17 wrote:
albion64 wrote:
WestStander17 wrote:
albion64 wrote:
WestStander17 wrote: With Claude on this one. Except his comments about Oscar! Albion64, for a "travelling circus" as you put it, Gus' formula and philosophy is doing pretty well! Transformed our style of play from the depths of League One and took us very close to the top of the Championship. Now Sunderland seem to be improving fast and are already in a major cup final. If that's a "circus", I'd love to know what you think Moyes is running at United! Some don't seem to like the fact that Gus is so hungry to get to the top. Some ego involved too, maybe, but if it helps then so what? He is proving just how good he is at what he does. It's different if someone has ego but is also actually not that good. The old Crawley manager springs to mind. But Gus IS good. He wants to get right to the top (shouldn't we all?!) and the way he has started, he might well get there! If he helps other clubs (us and possibly Sunderland) on the way then that's great. Yes, the way it ended may not have been pretty (as others have said, no-one really knows what exactly happened) but he has put our club in a great position on the field. If he thought that was as high as we could go for now, that's more a worry for us than him. We got to choose who we wanted to take us on from there. We chose Oscar and he's doing well so far under what seem much tighter reins than Gus would ever have agreed to. I just hope we are able to get the full benefit of Oscar's talents in this system so that he can take us further. He might have a shot at the Barca job in the future then which, sorry all the sensitive ones out there, must be a hope of his one day! I hope they both get to their ultimate goals and by helping us along the way!
No one denies what he did for us WestStander 17. If people love him so much go and watch Sunderland. Otherwise get behind our man and the team. It is very early days for Sunderland anyhow. Football has a way of biting you on the bum, on a regular basis. We'll see. UTA
When did I say I wasn't behind Oscar?! If/when I get chance, I certainly will watch Sunderland on the tv now as I know the type of Football they will play. And against most I will want them to win. Let's all hope Oscar can coach whoever he is given as successfully as Gus lead us!
I was talking about previous posts and not accusing you of not getting behind Oscar. Enjoy watching Sunderland, you will be able to see them in the flesh at the Amex next season : )
Thank you. I hope you are right because I think it will mean we have hit the big time!!! :-)
That I have no doubt. UTA
[quote][p][bold]WestStander17[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WestStander17[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WestStander17[/bold] wrote: With Claude on this one. Except his comments about Oscar! Albion64, for a "travelling circus" as you put it, Gus' formula and philosophy is doing pretty well! Transformed our style of play from the depths of League One and took us very close to the top of the Championship. Now Sunderland seem to be improving fast and are already in a major cup final. If that's a "circus", I'd love to know what you think Moyes is running at United! Some don't seem to like the fact that Gus is so hungry to get to the top. Some ego involved too, maybe, but if it helps then so what? He is proving just how good he is at what he does. It's different if someone has ego but is also actually not that good. The old Crawley manager springs to mind. But Gus IS good. He wants to get right to the top (shouldn't we all?!) and the way he has started, he might well get there! If he helps other clubs (us and possibly Sunderland) on the way then that's great. Yes, the way it ended may not have been pretty (as others have said, no-one really knows what exactly happened) but he has put our club in a great position on the field. If he thought that was as high as we could go for now, that's more a worry for us than him. We got to choose who we wanted to take us on from there. We chose Oscar and he's doing well so far under what seem much tighter reins than Gus would ever have agreed to. I just hope we are able to get the full benefit of Oscar's talents in this system so that he can take us further. He might have a shot at the Barca job in the future then which, sorry all the sensitive ones out there, must be a hope of his one day! I hope they both get to their ultimate goals and by helping us along the way![/p][/quote]No one denies what he did for us WestStander 17. If people love him so much go and watch Sunderland. Otherwise get behind our man and the team. It is very early days for Sunderland anyhow. Football has a way of biting you on the bum, on a regular basis. We'll see. UTA[/p][/quote]When did I say I wasn't behind Oscar?! If/when I get chance, I certainly will watch Sunderland on the tv now as I know the type of Football they will play. And against most I will want them to win. Let's all hope Oscar can coach whoever he is given as successfully as Gus lead us![/p][/quote]I was talking about previous posts and not accusing you of not getting behind Oscar. Enjoy watching Sunderland, you will be able to see them in the flesh at the Amex next season : )[/p][/quote]Thank you. I hope you are right because I think it will mean we have hit the big time!!! :-)[/p][/quote]That I have no doubt. UTA albion64
  • Score: 2

11:50am Sat 25 Jan 14

albion64 says...

OldGull wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
saraman wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
saraman wrote:
magicmenagerie wrote: I am amazed at the Gus Poyet hate on here. You're not fans of the Albion if that's how you feel. He built us a great footballing team and got very close to the Premier League. Team was a joy to watch. Proper football. No, the end was not pretty - endings rarely are - but grow up a bit and take a balanced view - he was good for us, we were good for him, things move on. Take the hate away, it's ugly and actually rather childish.
I'm a 100% Albion fan, but that does not prevent me from hating the very name of Poyet (aaagh). Yes he did do a lot of good for our club but no way does it excuse him for the despicable way he acted at the back end of last season. To my way of thinking he should have been hung, drawn and quartered for treason and his head placed on the highest point of The Amex for the SEAGULLS to devour. I know it's emotionally over the top,but that's how feel, and no apologies would ever be entertained, childish or not. There, I feel better now.
Saraman, you're obviously in the know, so perhaps you can tell us what exactly did happen at the and of his reign and more importantly, who told you. Please share as it would be interesting to have the definitive answer. Thank you in anticipation of your reply.
Gross misconduct. Were you not aware of that, it filled the headlines for weeks and still does occassionally?

If that was good enough for Tony Bloom, it is good enough for me and for MOST on here I might add.
Ok, I just wondered whether or not you know the actual details of the gross misconduct, that is the facts and not just the heresay, particularly as Gus Poyet hasn't responded.
You may have noticed Gus has dropped his challenge against his sacking.
If he was genuinely Innocent he would have defended himself.
But Sunderland came calling so he back tracked to land the job.

So who do you believe GP or TB?

I will stick with TB

But I will also thank GP for getting us to within 90mins of the prem.
Even if he did screw up at the end

In TB we trust
UTA
Glad to see other Albion fans who are switched on to reality. Then there are other know it all's on here who look through dictionaries all day looking for long words and double entendre to make themselves stand out. Then there's someone who happens to know everything about Albion's legal situation and dismisses others opinions.

I seemed to have touched a nerve with my original posting. Healthy stuff though and at least we know here we stand with certain peoples opinions on here. Put it this way, I wouldn't want to be on a sinking ship with some of them. UTA
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]magicmenagerie[/bold] wrote: I am amazed at the Gus Poyet hate on here. You're not fans of the Albion if that's how you feel. He built us a great footballing team and got very close to the Premier League. Team was a joy to watch. Proper football. No, the end was not pretty - endings rarely are - but grow up a bit and take a balanced view - he was good for us, we were good for him, things move on. Take the hate away, it's ugly and actually rather childish.[/p][/quote]I'm a 100% Albion fan, but that does not prevent me from hating the very name of Poyet (aaagh). Yes he did do a lot of good for our club but no way does it excuse him for the despicable way he acted at the back end of last season. To my way of thinking he should have been hung, drawn and quartered for treason and his head placed on the highest point of The Amex for the SEAGULLS to devour. I know it's emotionally over the top,but that's how feel, and no apologies would ever be entertained, childish or not. There, I feel better now.[/p][/quote]Saraman, you're obviously in the know, so perhaps you can tell us what exactly did happen at the and of his reign and more importantly, who told you. Please share as it would be interesting to have the definitive answer. Thank you in anticipation of your reply.[/p][/quote]Gross misconduct. Were you not aware of that, it filled the headlines for weeks and still does occassionally? If that was good enough for Tony Bloom, it is good enough for me and for MOST on here I might add.[/p][/quote]Ok, I just wondered whether or not you know the actual details of the gross misconduct, that is the facts and not just the heresay, particularly as Gus Poyet hasn't responded.[/p][/quote]You may have noticed Gus has dropped his challenge against his sacking. If he was genuinely Innocent he would have defended himself. But Sunderland came calling so he back tracked to land the job. So who do you believe GP or TB? I will stick with TB But I will also thank GP for getting us to within 90mins of the prem. Even if he did screw up at the end In TB we trust UTA[/p][/quote]Glad to see other Albion fans who are switched on to reality. Then there are other know it all's on here who look through dictionaries all day looking for long words and double entendre to make themselves stand out. Then there's someone who happens to know everything about Albion's legal situation and dismisses others opinions. I seemed to have touched a nerve with my original posting. Healthy stuff though and at least we know here we stand with certain peoples opinions on here. Put it this way, I wouldn't want to be on a sinking ship with some of them. UTA albion64
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