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Summary

  • PORT VALE 1 ALBION 3
  • Albion win muddy Cup battle
  • Ince hits opener (27)
  • Robertson heads leveller (36)
  • March restores lead (43)
  • Obika rounds keeper for third (78)
  • Seagulls believed to have lost out on target Shaun Williams
  • Six pages of coverage in The Argus on Monday

4:55pm

Grimmer, who had caught the eye as an attacking right-back, was booked in added time for his foul on LuaLua.

Final: Port Vale 1 Albion 3

4:44pm

4:44pm

Vale had not given it up yet. A cross was not held by Brezovan under pressure and played from both sides hacked at the ball right in front of goal before Albion somehow scrambled clear.
Albion sent on LuaLua for March.
 

4:41pm

Albion strung together a terrific bout of passing involving Andrews and Ince, plus a dummy from Forster-Caskey, to send Obika clean through on goal. But Neal spread himself to block the striker’s shot.
But the reprieve did not last long for Vale as Forster-Caskey cut out Neal's free-kick, which was struck wearily into the wind, and sent OBIKA clean through down the middle to calmly round Neal and slide the ball into the empty net.
 

4:38pm

Tomlin’s return from injury ended in the 76th minute when he made way for battering ram striker Hugill.

4:31pm

Albion’s first change saw Agustien make way for Andrews in the 70th minute.

4:28pm

Albion were inches from taking a real stranglehold on the tie in the 64th minute when Agustien let fly from outside the box with a shot which went across Neal’s dive and came back off his far post.
As Vale responded, Dunk was Albion’s fourth booking of the game after a foul.
Vale sent on Williamson for Myrie-Williams.
He went straight into the box and headed over with his first touch from the free-kick resulting from Dunk’s foul.
 

4:19pm

Clever work by Orlandi won a corner right in front of the Albion fans. When it was eventually cleared, Forster-Caskey let fly from outside the box and Neal leapt to fingertip it over the bar.

4:15pm

Grimmer stormed forward again and looked to have got into the heart of the area before Chicksen turned smarty and cleared for a throw in.
But Vale were coming forward with gusto again.
 

4:14pm

Att: 7,293 (1,142 away)

4:13pm

A chance suddenly opened up for Loft as the ball ran loose on the edge of the area but his attempted curler flew over the top corner.

4:11pm

Grimmer, the right-back on loan from Fulham, went on a storming run down the right and saw his cross headed behind by Upson. But Orlandi headed clear the resulting corner by Lines.

4:09pm

Yates replaced Taylor at half-time.

But Albion almost scored in the opening minute as March curled left-footed for goal and Neal dived low to his left to push it away.

Myrie-Williams wa booked for a foul and the free-kick caused problems before a shot was charged down.

4:00pm

3:58pm

3:56pm

3:45pm Sat 25 Jan 14

mikeygit says

Solly March scores again from an Orlandi cross 2-1 Albion!!

 

Not really a cross Mikey. Orlandi played a corner short to March who might have been looking to cross first time - but saw his chip into the danger area float inside the far post.

3:50pm

Albion won three quickfire corners to end the half.

Half: Port Vale 1 Albion 2

3:44pm

Vale really had their tails up now. Their fans accused Calderon of play-acting when he went down holding his knee.
And Adams seemed to have an observation to make to the right-back too as he went past the technical area before being allowed to resume.
Calderon almost silenced them when he appeared at the far post and had a drive blocked by a defender.
Orlandi worked the right-wing corner shot to MARCH whose first time clip into the goalmouth cleared Neal and dipped just inside the far post.
 

3:41pm

3:40pm

Then a long throw earned Vale another right-wing corner but this time Agustien cleared at the near post.

 

 

3:39pm

Vale fans were in geat heart now an cheered as an Orlandi corner was cleared at the far post.

3:37pm

Loft’s deep hanging cross forced Chicksen to concede a corner – to bring Vale fans back into good voice.
The delivery from the right by Lines was spot on and ROBERTSON met it with a stooping header which bounced inside Brezovan’s far post.
 

3:35pm

Agustien did well to make his way through the heavy midfield area with the ball at his feet and feed Calderon out wide. Calderon dug out a far post cross which Vale scrambled behind as Obika moved in.
The resulting corner caused problems before the hosts scrambled it away.
But there was excitement at the other end when Myrie-Willims got behind the defence and his low cross was just too far ahead of Pope.
 

3:30pm

Obika was booked for a late challenge.

3:29pm

Albion went ahead when INCE scored his first senior goal. Orlandi hooked his left-wing corner behind the main body of players waiting in the middle and the midfielder hooked in an well controlled first-time volley with his left foot.

3:26pm

3:25pm

The resulting free-kick was Lofted into the box and repelled by Brezovan's decisive punch.

3:24pm

 

Home fans were unhappy that their side were not making life too uncomfortable for Albion early on but there was no real threat from Ince’s shot which rolled wide.
Albion had Ince booked and there were penalty claims from the resulting free-kick as Lines charged into the box and went down.
Ref Tierney waved them away and the resulting counter saw Orlandi turned nicely in the box and shoot wide.
Then Dunk sent a low drive not far wide from outside the box.
March was next to have a go, turning inside and letting fly from 20 yards. Neal dived sharply down to his left to save – and then grab the loose ball before Obika could pounce.
It was a lively tie and Orlandi was booked for a foul on Vale’s next attack.
 

3:12pm

3:11pm

Albion are defending the away end in this first half.

Obika has juist let fly from outside the box with a low shot which slowed on the pitch and was easily gathered by Neal.

3:10pm

March popped on the right early on and cut in but his low cross or shot was blocked.

At the other end, Brezovan had to punch lear a dangerous cross into the box and the attempted follow-up chip by Loft from edge of the box was charged down more or less at source.

Upson is, of course,, being booed at every touch by the Vale fans.

3:08pm

Conditions are poor. Very wet underfoot, a strong wind blowing more or less down the pitch (behind Vale in this half) and persistent rain.

3:07pm

Short, sharp updates from me today due to poor internet connection (which eexplains the slightly late start) and the fact Football League reporting guidelines do not apply.

 

3:06pm

Not quite a winter wonderland. But we have the sort of conditions which are often described as “Cup upset weather” here at Vale Park.
Cold, wet, dark and sodden underfoot. And a home crowd who seem up for it. The pitch was white shortly before 2pm thanks to a spectacular hail and thunder storm.
That has now cleared – but it will be a tough one for much-changed Albion here today.
 

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3:23pm Sat 25 Jan 14

mikeygit says...

Not again!!Millwall beat us to a player WHY!! Millwall ground V Ours--No contest--Millwall V Us getting to Premiership first No contest!!!
Not again!!Millwall beat us to a player WHY!! Millwall ground V Ours--No contest--Millwall V Us getting to Premiership first No contest!!! mikeygit
  • Score: 1

3:29pm Sat 25 Jan 14

mikeygit says...

Ince gets his first GOAL!!!! 4 to go--his target 5
Ince gets his first GOAL!!!! 4 to go--his target 5 mikeygit
  • Score: 2

3:32pm Sat 25 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

I just don't understand why we are picking up yellow cards so early in the match, let's hope that the goal settle the players down. Carry on as we are and we will be lucky to have eleven players finish this game.
I just don't understand why we are picking up yellow cards so early in the match, let's hope that the goal settle the players down. Carry on as we are and we will be lucky to have eleven players finish this game. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -2

3:38pm Sat 25 Jan 14

mikeygit says...

P Vale have ONE back 1-1!! Bummer
P Vale have ONE back 1-1!! Bummer mikeygit
  • Score: -1

3:40pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Steveg1958 says...

Why don't we ever go for it in the cup, we have a great chance of getting to the fifth round and a possible big tie and we pick Brezovan and Dunk ! asking to lose again.
Why don't we ever go for it in the cup, we have a great chance of getting to the fifth round and a possible big tie and we pick Brezovan and Dunk ! asking to lose again. Steveg1958
  • Score: -9

3:45pm Sat 25 Jan 14

mikeygit says...

Solly March scores again from an Orlandi cross 2-1 Albion!!
Solly March scores again from an Orlandi cross 2-1 Albion!! mikeygit
  • Score: 2

3:47pm Sat 25 Jan 14

ringtone says...

Steveg1958 wrote:
Why don't we ever go for it in the cup, we have a great chance of getting to the fifth round and a possible big tie and we pick Brezovan and Dunk ! asking to lose again.
Dunk is a class player, maybe you dont like centre halfs (whooooooooooo) you can pass the ball.

Oscar please resign at half time, keep you dignity if it is all square.
[quote][p][bold]Steveg1958[/bold] wrote: Why don't we ever go for it in the cup, we have a great chance of getting to the fifth round and a possible big tie and we pick Brezovan and Dunk ! asking to lose again.[/p][/quote]Dunk is a class player, maybe you dont like centre halfs (whooooooooooo) you can pass the ball. Oscar please resign at half time, keep you dignity if it is all square. ringtone
  • Score: -12

3:51pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Alfie T says...

mikeygit wrote:
Not again!!Millwall beat us to a player WHY!! Millwall ground V Ours--No contest--Millwall V Us getting to Premiership first No contest!!!
I did say, don't underestimate Holloway and his enthusiasm, shiny stadium,training facilities and league position not enough if you can't sell the dream!
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Not again!!Millwall beat us to a player WHY!! Millwall ground V Ours--No contest--Millwall V Us getting to Premiership first No contest!!![/p][/quote]I did say, don't underestimate Holloway and his enthusiasm, shiny stadium,training facilities and league position not enough if you can't sell the dream! Alfie T
  • Score: 2

3:53pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Chi Gull says...

ringtone wrote:
Steveg1958 wrote:
Why don't we ever go for it in the cup, we have a great chance of getting to the fifth round and a possible big tie and we pick Brezovan and Dunk ! asking to lose again.
Dunk is a class player, maybe you dont like centre halfs (whooooooooooo) you can pass the ball.

Oscar please resign at half time, keep you dignity if it is all square.
Our managers only 'resign' after beating your lot 3-0 .......
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steveg1958[/bold] wrote: Why don't we ever go for it in the cup, we have a great chance of getting to the fifth round and a possible big tie and we pick Brezovan and Dunk ! asking to lose again.[/p][/quote]Dunk is a class player, maybe you dont like centre halfs (whooooooooooo) you can pass the ball. Oscar please resign at half time, keep you dignity if it is all square.[/p][/quote]Our managers only 'resign' after beating your lot 3-0 ....... Chi Gull
  • Score: 1

3:58pm Sat 25 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Alfie T wrote:
mikeygit wrote:
Not again!!Millwall beat us to a player WHY!! Millwall ground V Ours--No contest--Millwall V Us getting to Premiership first No contest!!!
I did say, don't underestimate Holloway and his enthusiasm, shiny stadium,training facilities and league position not enough if you can't sell the dream!
My guess is length of contract, I doubt we offered more than 18 months, what would we do with the guy if we get promoted. Millwall probably offered 2 years, or more, and they will keep him even if they get relegated.
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Not again!!Millwall beat us to a player WHY!! Millwall ground V Ours--No contest--Millwall V Us getting to Premiership first No contest!!![/p][/quote]I did say, don't underestimate Holloway and his enthusiasm, shiny stadium,training facilities and league position not enough if you can't sell the dream![/p][/quote]My guess is length of contract, I doubt we offered more than 18 months, what would we do with the guy if we get promoted. Millwall probably offered 2 years, or more, and they will keep him even if they get relegated. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

3:59pm Sat 25 Jan 14

tug509 says...

Were not a dirty side so ,how come Tierney is so free with the cards ,he is leaving us jittery ,and himself no where to go ,it might force changes in the second half ,i said 1-3 ,optimism says 1-4 . UTA
Were not a dirty side so ,how come Tierney is so free with the cards ,he is leaving us jittery ,and himself no where to go ,it might force changes in the second half ,i said 1-3 ,optimism says 1-4 . UTA tug509
  • Score: 1

4:03pm Sat 25 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

tug509 wrote:
Were not a dirty side so ,how come Tierney is so free with the cards ,he is leaving us jittery ,and himself no where to go ,it might force changes in the second half ,i said 1-3 ,optimism says 1-4 . UTA
Hi Tug, I wondered where you was, I guess I missed your earlier comments.

We rest players for next week only to have to bring them on in the second half due to yellow cards, not exactly what we wanted.
Obika, want's to impress gets a yellow. Orlandi, back from injury wants to impress, gets a yellow. Ince, always wants to impresss, gets a yellow.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Were not a dirty side so ,how come Tierney is so free with the cards ,he is leaving us jittery ,and himself no where to go ,it might force changes in the second half ,i said 1-3 ,optimism says 1-4 . UTA[/p][/quote]Hi Tug, I wondered where you was, I guess I missed your earlier comments. We rest players for next week only to have to bring them on in the second half due to yellow cards, not exactly what we wanted. Obika, want's to impress gets a yellow. Orlandi, back from injury wants to impress, gets a yellow. Ince, always wants to impresss, gets a yellow. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -1

4:06pm Sat 25 Jan 14

fratsomrover says...

How weird is it that our transfer targets, Grabban and Williams chose to play for Bournemouth and Millwall instead of us ?
Something no right here when you consider the facilities we have, the potential we offer and the massive crowds.
Would like to know why BHA are so unattractive to these players ?
How weird is it that our transfer targets, Grabban and Williams chose to play for Bournemouth and Millwall instead of us ? Something no right here when you consider the facilities we have, the potential we offer and the massive crowds. Would like to know why BHA are so unattractive to these players ? fratsomrover
  • Score: 5

4:08pm Sat 25 Jan 14

tug509 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Alfie T wrote:
mikeygit wrote:
Not again!!Millwall beat us to a player WHY!! Millwall ground V Ours--No contest--Millwall V Us getting to Premiership first No contest!!!
I did say, don't underestimate Holloway and his enthusiasm, shiny stadium,training facilities and league position not enough if you can't sell the dream!
My guess is length of contract, I doubt we offered more than 18 months, what would we do with the guy if we get promoted. Millwall probably offered 2 years, or more, and they will keep him even if they get relegated.
Good morning Vegas .
yep that seems right ,spot on again ,this proves we have no option ,other than to go for a good and solid player ,that believes ,we have a chance of going up ,and that he will be a part of that !. By the way ,cheers mate ,recipricated .

UTA
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Not again!!Millwall beat us to a player WHY!! Millwall ground V Ours--No contest--Millwall V Us getting to Premiership first No contest!!![/p][/quote]I did say, don't underestimate Holloway and his enthusiasm, shiny stadium,training facilities and league position not enough if you can't sell the dream![/p][/quote]My guess is length of contract, I doubt we offered more than 18 months, what would we do with the guy if we get promoted. Millwall probably offered 2 years, or more, and they will keep him even if they get relegated.[/p][/quote]Good morning Vegas . yep that seems right ,spot on again ,this proves we have no option ,other than to go for a good and solid player ,that believes ,we have a chance of going up ,and that he will be a part of that !. By the way ,cheers mate ,recipricated . UTA tug509
  • Score: -2

4:18pm Sat 25 Jan 14

ringtone says...

fratsomrover wrote:
How weird is it that our transfer targets, Grabban and Williams chose to play for Bournemouth and Millwall instead of us ?
Something no right here when you consider the facilities we have, the potential we offer and the massive crowds.
Would like to know why BHA are so unattractive to these players ?
Cos FFP is gonna leave us in the conference if we are lucky.

How are we gonna pay back the 100 million it cost to build the Amex?
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: How weird is it that our transfer targets, Grabban and Williams chose to play for Bournemouth and Millwall instead of us ? Something no right here when you consider the facilities we have, the potential we offer and the massive crowds. Would like to know why BHA are so unattractive to these players ?[/p][/quote]Cos FFP is gonna leave us in the conference if we are lucky. How are we gonna pay back the 100 million it cost to build the Amex? ringtone
  • Score: -5

4:26pm Sat 25 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

ringtone wrote:
fratsomrover wrote:
How weird is it that our transfer targets, Grabban and Williams chose to play for Bournemouth and Millwall instead of us ?
Something no right here when you consider the facilities we have, the potential we offer and the massive crowds.
Would like to know why BHA are so unattractive to these players ?
Cos FFP is gonna leave us in the conference if we are lucky.

How are we gonna pay back the 100 million it cost to build the Amex?
Ringtone you are just acting up, you know, as we all know, that infrastructure spending doesn't count to the FFP rules. Be funny but also be accurate.
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: How weird is it that our transfer targets, Grabban and Williams chose to play for Bournemouth and Millwall instead of us ? Something no right here when you consider the facilities we have, the potential we offer and the massive crowds. Would like to know why BHA are so unattractive to these players ?[/p][/quote]Cos FFP is gonna leave us in the conference if we are lucky. How are we gonna pay back the 100 million it cost to build the Amex?[/p][/quote]Ringtone you are just acting up, you know, as we all know, that infrastructure spending doesn't count to the FFP rules. Be funny but also be accurate. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

4:28pm Sat 25 Jan 14

To baldly go says...

fratsomrover wrote:
How weird is it that our transfer targets, Grabban and Williams chose to play for Bournemouth and Millwall instead of us ?
Something no right here when you consider the facilities we have, the potential we offer and the massive crowds.
Would like to know why BHA are so unattractive to these players ?
Like others have posted at different times, we are knocking on the door to the big league and don't want players that won't make the grade, so short term contracts, not sure of getting a game and silly wages on offer at other clubs, mean they choose to go else where, facilities etc don't come into it, money comes first and then getting game time second.
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: How weird is it that our transfer targets, Grabban and Williams chose to play for Bournemouth and Millwall instead of us ? Something no right here when you consider the facilities we have, the potential we offer and the massive crowds. Would like to know why BHA are so unattractive to these players ?[/p][/quote]Like others have posted at different times, we are knocking on the door to the big league and don't want players that won't make the grade, so short term contracts, not sure of getting a game and silly wages on offer at other clubs, mean they choose to go else where, facilities etc don't come into it, money comes first and then getting game time second. To baldly go
  • Score: 8

4:29pm Sat 25 Jan 14

mikeygit says...

Agree Vegas---yet ANOTHER booking--Dunk!!
Agree Vegas---yet ANOTHER booking--Dunk!! mikeygit
  • Score: -2

4:33pm Sat 25 Jan 14

mikeygit says...

IO am following Albion also on BBC but who is getting players attempts right?? BBC makes no mention of Solly March 2nd half attempt or Forster Caskeys---they quote Calderon and Upson??? Be good to get the stats correct!!
IO am following Albion also on BBC but who is getting players attempts right?? BBC makes no mention of Solly March 2nd half attempt or Forster Caskeys---they quote Calderon and Upson??? Be good to get the stats correct!! mikeygit
  • Score: 1

4:33pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Alfie T says...

tug509 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Alfie T wrote:
mikeygit wrote:
Not again!!Millwall beat us to a player WHY!! Millwall ground V Ours--No contest--Millwall V Us getting to Premiership first No contest!!!
I did say, don't underestimate Holloway and his enthusiasm, shiny stadium,training facilities and league position not enough if you can't sell the dream!
My guess is length of contract, I doubt we offered more than 18 months, what would we do with the guy if we get promoted. Millwall probably offered 2 years, or more, and they will keep him even if they get relegated.
Good morning Vegas .
yep that seems right ,spot on again ,this proves we have no option ,other than to go for a good and solid player ,that believes ,we have a chance of going up ,and that he will be a part of that !. By the way ,cheers mate ,recipricated .

UTA
Spot on again? So everything your mate across the pond says is correct then!
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Not again!!Millwall beat us to a player WHY!! Millwall ground V Ours--No contest--Millwall V Us getting to Premiership first No contest!!![/p][/quote]I did say, don't underestimate Holloway and his enthusiasm, shiny stadium,training facilities and league position not enough if you can't sell the dream![/p][/quote]My guess is length of contract, I doubt we offered more than 18 months, what would we do with the guy if we get promoted. Millwall probably offered 2 years, or more, and they will keep him even if they get relegated.[/p][/quote]Good morning Vegas . yep that seems right ,spot on again ,this proves we have no option ,other than to go for a good and solid player ,that believes ,we have a chance of going up ,and that he will be a part of that !. By the way ,cheers mate ,recipricated . UTA[/p][/quote]Spot on again? So everything your mate across the pond says is correct then! Alfie T
  • Score: -1

4:34pm Sat 25 Jan 14

tug509 says...

6 fouls and 4 yellows ,your not making any friends Tierney !!. UTA
6 fouls and 4 yellows ,your not making any friends Tierney !!. UTA tug509
  • Score: 1

4:39pm Sat 25 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Alfie T wrote:
tug509 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Alfie T wrote:
mikeygit wrote:
Not again!!Millwall beat us to a player WHY!! Millwall ground V Ours--No contest--Millwall V Us getting to Premiership first No contest!!!
I did say, don't underestimate Holloway and his enthusiasm, shiny stadium,training facilities and league position not enough if you can't sell the dream!
My guess is length of contract, I doubt we offered more than 18 months, what would we do with the guy if we get promoted. Millwall probably offered 2 years, or more, and they will keep him even if they get relegated.
Good morning Vegas .
yep that seems right ,spot on again ,this proves we have no option ,other than to go for a good and solid player ,that believes ,we have a chance of going up ,and that he will be a part of that !. By the way ,cheers mate ,recipricated .

UTA
Spot on again? So everything your mate across the pond says is correct then!
No Alfie, in fact very little I say is right, but on this point Tug and I agree, so 'spot on,' between his thinking and mine, that's all.
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Not again!!Millwall beat us to a player WHY!! Millwall ground V Ours--No contest--Millwall V Us getting to Premiership first No contest!!![/p][/quote]I did say, don't underestimate Holloway and his enthusiasm, shiny stadium,training facilities and league position not enough if you can't sell the dream![/p][/quote]My guess is length of contract, I doubt we offered more than 18 months, what would we do with the guy if we get promoted. Millwall probably offered 2 years, or more, and they will keep him even if they get relegated.[/p][/quote]Good morning Vegas . yep that seems right ,spot on again ,this proves we have no option ,other than to go for a good and solid player ,that believes ,we have a chance of going up ,and that he will be a part of that !. By the way ,cheers mate ,recipricated . UTA[/p][/quote]Spot on again? So everything your mate across the pond says is correct then![/p][/quote]No Alfie, in fact very little I say is right, but on this point Tug and I agree, so 'spot on,' between his thinking and mine, that's all. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

4:40pm Sat 25 Jan 14

tug509 says...

Alfie T wrote:
tug509 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Alfie T wrote:
mikeygit wrote:
Not again!!Millwall beat us to a player WHY!! Millwall ground V Ours--No contest--Millwall V Us getting to Premiership first No contest!!!
I did say, don't underestimate Holloway and his enthusiasm, shiny stadium,training facilities and league position not enough if you can't sell the dream!
My guess is length of contract, I doubt we offered more than 18 months, what would we do with the guy if we get promoted. Millwall probably offered 2 years, or more, and they will keep him even if they get relegated.
Good morning Vegas .
yep that seems right ,spot on again ,this proves we have no option ,other than to go for a good and solid player ,that believes ,we have a chance of going up ,and that he will be a part of that !. By the way ,cheers mate ,recipricated .

UTA
Spot on again? So everything your mate across the pond says is correct then!
If you mean ,Vegas has a sensible footballing brain ,who has an understanding of the way business works ,then yes , what do you know that makes him wrong ,besides ,he should be your mate as well .
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Not again!!Millwall beat us to a player WHY!! Millwall ground V Ours--No contest--Millwall V Us getting to Premiership first No contest!!![/p][/quote]I did say, don't underestimate Holloway and his enthusiasm, shiny stadium,training facilities and league position not enough if you can't sell the dream![/p][/quote]My guess is length of contract, I doubt we offered more than 18 months, what would we do with the guy if we get promoted. Millwall probably offered 2 years, or more, and they will keep him even if they get relegated.[/p][/quote]Good morning Vegas . yep that seems right ,spot on again ,this proves we have no option ,other than to go for a good and solid player ,that believes ,we have a chance of going up ,and that he will be a part of that !. By the way ,cheers mate ,recipricated . UTA[/p][/quote]Spot on again? So everything your mate across the pond says is correct then![/p][/quote]If you mean ,Vegas has a sensible footballing brain ,who has an understanding of the way business works ,then yes , what do you know that makes him wrong ,besides ,he should be your mate as well . tug509
  • Score: 1

4:41pm Sat 25 Jan 14

mikeygit says...

Obika gets HIS first 3-1 breathing space!!
Obika gets HIS first 3-1 breathing space!! mikeygit
  • Score: 2

4:42pm Sat 25 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

mikeygit wrote:
Obika gets HIS first 3-1 breathing space!!
game set and match
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Obika gets HIS first 3-1 breathing space!![/p][/quote]game set and match VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

4:43pm Sat 25 Jan 14

mikeygit says...

ONLY side to score three so far this afternoon---even Gus´s Sunderland cannot get a hatful at Kidderminster---who must be playing well--only 1-0 to S´land!!
ONLY side to score three so far this afternoon---even Gus´s Sunderland cannot get a hatful at Kidderminster---who must be playing well--only 1-0 to S´land!! mikeygit
  • Score: 3

4:46pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Alfie T says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Alfie T wrote:
tug509 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Alfie T wrote:
mikeygit wrote:
Not again!!Millwall beat us to a player WHY!! Millwall ground V Ours--No contest--Millwall V Us getting to Premiership first No contest!!!
I did say, don't underestimate Holloway and his enthusiasm, shiny stadium,training facilities and league position not enough if you can't sell the dream!
My guess is length of contract, I doubt we offered more than 18 months, what would we do with the guy if we get promoted. Millwall probably offered 2 years, or more, and they will keep him even if they get relegated.
Good morning Vegas .
yep that seems right ,spot on again ,this proves we have no option ,other than to go for a good and solid player ,that believes ,we have a chance of going up ,and that he will be a part of that !. By the way ,cheers mate ,recipricated .

UTA
Spot on again? So everything your mate across the pond says is correct then!
No Alfie, in fact very little I say is right, but on this point Tug and I agree, so 'spot on,' between his thinking and mine, that's all.
Fair enough, anyway, Ince off the mark and now Obika,Palace losing too, happy days:-)
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Not again!!Millwall beat us to a player WHY!! Millwall ground V Ours--No contest--Millwall V Us getting to Premiership first No contest!!![/p][/quote]I did say, don't underestimate Holloway and his enthusiasm, shiny stadium,training facilities and league position not enough if you can't sell the dream![/p][/quote]My guess is length of contract, I doubt we offered more than 18 months, what would we do with the guy if we get promoted. Millwall probably offered 2 years, or more, and they will keep him even if they get relegated.[/p][/quote]Good morning Vegas . yep that seems right ,spot on again ,this proves we have no option ,other than to go for a good and solid player ,that believes ,we have a chance of going up ,and that he will be a part of that !. By the way ,cheers mate ,recipricated . UTA[/p][/quote]Spot on again? So everything your mate across the pond says is correct then![/p][/quote]No Alfie, in fact very little I say is right, but on this point Tug and I agree, so 'spot on,' between his thinking and mine, that's all.[/p][/quote]Fair enough, anyway, Ince off the mark and now Obika,Palace losing too, happy days:-) Alfie T
  • Score: 2

4:46pm Sat 25 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

mikeygit wrote:
ONLY side to score three so far this afternoon---even Gus´s Sunderland cannot get a hatful at Kidderminster---who must be playing well--only 1-0 to S´land!!
watching that match, should be 1-1, Kidd missed great chance on 87 mins.
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: ONLY side to score three so far this afternoon---even Gus´s Sunderland cannot get a hatful at Kidderminster---who must be playing well--only 1-0 to S´land!![/p][/quote]watching that match, should be 1-1, Kidd missed great chance on 87 mins. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

4:48pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Tonyuk175 says...

Come on Brighton well done oscar good to see the youngsters do us proud AGAIN UTA
Come on Brighton well done oscar good to see the youngsters do us proud AGAIN UTA Tonyuk175
  • Score: 4

4:50pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Tonyuk175 says...

League games have been good as well down 1place but can overtake reading with game in hand. UTA
League games have been good as well down 1place but can overtake reading with game in hand. UTA Tonyuk175
  • Score: 3

4:52pm Sat 25 Jan 14

To baldly go says...

In the hat tomorrow, that will do for me, plus had a fiver each way on Ince to score first at 25/1, kerching! Home draw against one of the big guns please. UTA
In the hat tomorrow, that will do for me, plus had a fiver each way on Ince to score first at 25/1, kerching! Home draw against one of the big guns please. UTA To baldly go
  • Score: 4

4:58pm Sat 25 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

To baldly go wrote:
In the hat tomorrow, that will do for me, plus had a fiver each way on Ince to score first at 25/1, kerching! Home draw against one of the big guns please. UTA
I would take a home draw against a lesser or equal team, chance to advance, more money.
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: In the hat tomorrow, that will do for me, plus had a fiver each way on Ince to score first at 25/1, kerching! Home draw against one of the big guns please. UTA[/p][/quote]I would take a home draw against a lesser or equal team, chance to advance, more money. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

5:07pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Chi Gull says...

Vegas/Tug - I suspect for Grabban and Williams there was an issue about how much first team football they would actually get at Brighton. They are both mid 20's and at an age when they want to be playing and still improving. That's our difficulty when trying to get good quality squad players. Not such an issue with top quality players almost guaranteed a start, but then we are competing with bigger clubs including those with parachute payments. If you were Williams would you want to be at Millwall and playing regularly or sitting on the bench at Brighton - even if the money and contracts were similar?
Vegas/Tug - I suspect for Grabban and Williams there was an issue about how much first team football they would actually get at Brighton. They are both mid 20's and at an age when they want to be playing and still improving. That's our difficulty when trying to get good quality squad players. Not such an issue with top quality players almost guaranteed a start, but then we are competing with bigger clubs including those with parachute payments. If you were Williams would you want to be at Millwall and playing regularly or sitting on the bench at Brighton - even if the money and contracts were similar? Chi Gull
  • Score: 6

5:18pm Sat 25 Jan 14

tug509 says...

To baldly go wrote:
In the hat tomorrow, that will do for me, plus had a fiver each way on Ince to score first at 25/1, kerching! Home draw against one of the big guns please. UTA
Good call !! .
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: In the hat tomorrow, that will do for me, plus had a fiver each way on Ince to score first at 25/1, kerching! Home draw against one of the big guns please. UTA[/p][/quote]Good call !! . tug509
  • Score: 3

5:59pm Sat 25 Jan 14

tug509 says...

Chi Gull wrote:
Vegas/Tug - I suspect for Grabban and Williams there was an issue about how much first team football they would actually get at Brighton. They are both mid 20's and at an age when they want to be playing and still improving. That's our difficulty when trying to get good quality squad players. Not such an issue with top quality players almost guaranteed a start, but then we are competing with bigger clubs including those with parachute payments. If you were Williams would you want to be at Millwall and playing regularly or sitting on the bench at Brighton - even if the money and contracts were similar?
Yep good point ,i think sometimes players like Rohan ,Solly ,both great today ,have the "right stuff" they take their chances ,work hard ,and up their game ,possibly Williams hasn`t got that same belief ,that he can force his way into our first team on a regular basis ,at 27 he is young enough ,but it`s easier to be a big fish in a small pond attitude perhaps ?.
At Millwall he will do well ,he has previous with Harford as we have heard ,so will feel at home ,i can only assume ,that he doesn`t think he can get much better ,otherwise between the two clubs ,no offence "Wall" but no competition !. UTA
[quote][p][bold]Chi Gull[/bold] wrote: Vegas/Tug - I suspect for Grabban and Williams there was an issue about how much first team football they would actually get at Brighton. They are both mid 20's and at an age when they want to be playing and still improving. That's our difficulty when trying to get good quality squad players. Not such an issue with top quality players almost guaranteed a start, but then we are competing with bigger clubs including those with parachute payments. If you were Williams would you want to be at Millwall and playing regularly or sitting on the bench at Brighton - even if the money and contracts were similar?[/p][/quote]Yep good point ,i think sometimes players like Rohan ,Solly ,both great today ,have the "right stuff" they take their chances ,work hard ,and up their game ,possibly Williams hasn`t got that same belief ,that he can force his way into our first team on a regular basis ,at 27 he is young enough ,but it`s easier to be a big fish in a small pond attitude perhaps ?. At Millwall he will do well ,he has previous with Harford as we have heard ,so will feel at home ,i can only assume ,that he doesn`t think he can get much better ,otherwise between the two clubs ,no offence "Wall" but no competition !. UTA tug509
  • Score: 2

6:12pm Sat 25 Jan 14

fratsomrover says...

tug509 wrote:
To baldly go wrote:
In the hat tomorrow, that will do for me, plus had a fiver each way on Ince to score first at 25/1, kerching! Home draw against one of the big guns please. UTA
Good call !! .
How to you mean £5 each way ? Is that £5 he does score and £5 he doesn't ?
Isn't that a "cant lose bet"
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: In the hat tomorrow, that will do for me, plus had a fiver each way on Ince to score first at 25/1, kerching! Home draw against one of the big guns please. UTA[/p][/quote]Good call !! .[/p][/quote]How to you mean £5 each way ? Is that £5 he does score and £5 he doesn't ? Isn't that a "cant lose bet" fratsomrover
  • Score: 0

7:06pm Sat 25 Jan 14

OldGull says...

ringtone wrote:
fratsomrover wrote:
How weird is it that our transfer targets, Grabban and Williams chose to play for Bournemouth and Millwall instead of us ?
Something no right here when you consider the facilities we have, the potential we offer and the massive crowds.
Would like to know why BHA are so unattractive to these players ?
Cos FFP is gonna leave us in the conference if we are lucky.

How are we gonna pay back the 100 million it cost to build the Amex?
RingRing, RingRing, RingRing,
No Answer
The lights are on but nobody's home.
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: How weird is it that our transfer targets, Grabban and Williams chose to play for Bournemouth and Millwall instead of us ? Something no right here when you consider the facilities we have, the potential we offer and the massive crowds. Would like to know why BHA are so unattractive to these players ?[/p][/quote]Cos FFP is gonna leave us in the conference if we are lucky. How are we gonna pay back the 100 million it cost to build the Amex?[/p][/quote]RingRing, RingRing, RingRing, No Answer The lights are on but nobody's home. OldGull
  • Score: 3

10:13am Sun 26 Jan 14

golddene says...

fratsomrover wrote:
How weird is it that our transfer targets, Grabban and Williams chose to play for Bournemouth and Millwall instead of us ?
Something no right here when you consider the facilities we have, the potential we offer and the massive crowds.
Would like to know why BHA are so unattractive to these players ?
Maybe its their (players)lack of ambition that is the problem.
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: How weird is it that our transfer targets, Grabban and Williams chose to play for Bournemouth and Millwall instead of us ? Something no right here when you consider the facilities we have, the potential we offer and the massive crowds. Would like to know why BHA are so unattractive to these players ?[/p][/quote]Maybe its their (players)lack of ambition that is the problem. golddene
  • Score: 0

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