Talking Point: Albion need a flurry of signings

Oscar Garcia is doing too well at Albion for his own good

Oscar Garcia is doing too well at Albion for his own good

First published in Sport by , Chief sports reporter

Oscar Garcia is doing very well for Albion, perhaps too well for his own good.

Two points and two places outside the Championship play-off zone and now through to the fifth round of the FA Cup.

It must be tempting for his bosses to think not much damage will be done if, by Saturday, the squad has not been brought back up to strength.

Do Albion really need replacements for Ashley Barnes, Andrew Crofts and Adam El-Abd?

After all, Oscar made seven changes and his revamped side still saw off Port Vale in a potentially awkward assignment with relative ease.

That temptation must be resisted if Albion are to remain serious contenders for a top six finish.

We witnessed at Vale Park a glimpse into a very bright future for the club.

Four of the players picked by Oscar - Lewis Dunk, Rohan Ince, Jake Forster-Caskey and Solly March - have come through the development squad.

Two others, summer signing Adam Chicksen and on-loan striker Jonathan Obika, are still in their early twenties.

They all contributed to a bright performance in difficult conditions which was too much for their plucky hosts.

Let's not forget though that Albion and Port Vale, with identical records of 39 points from 26 games, are a League apart.

Much tougher tests await Oscar's squad in the remaining 20 games in the Championship, beginning at Burnley tomorrow night and continuing at Watford on Sunday.

It is a little disturbing in the context of the last few days of the January transfer window that Albion have now missed out on two targets to teams well below them in the table and with far less Premier League potential.

Lewis Grabban's decision to stay at Bournemouth and Shaun Williams' preference for Millwall suggests there is room for improvement in the recruitment structure Oscar has to rely on.

The worry now, so late in the window, is that he will end up with targets well down the wish list.

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12:10pm Mon 27 Jan 14

mikeygit says...

If we do not sign anyone--all well and good. ´Targets below what we want´?? Well thats OK as long as they are not signed. We will be OK whatever way the coockie crumbles. Another ´dramatic´Argus headline¨!! Our guys seems to be coming through the ranks OK. OK Port Vale not the stiffest of tests but it was a good run out for the young players and they will build on that. I am not worried if we do not sign anyone.
If we do not sign anyone--all well and good. ´Targets below what we want´?? Well thats OK as long as they are not signed. We will be OK whatever way the coockie crumbles. Another ´dramatic´Argus headline¨!! Our guys seems to be coming through the ranks OK. OK Port Vale not the stiffest of tests but it was a good run out for the young players and they will build on that. I am not worried if we do not sign anyone. mikeygit
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12:15pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Hampshire Gull says...

I'd say the real reason is that some players don't want to come here knowing they won't be playing every week and would probably only be on a short term contract as well! Grabban will be a frst choice for B'mouth as Williams will be for Millwall. Neither would have been sure of reular first team football at the Albion.
I'd say the real reason is that some players don't want to come here knowing they won't be playing every week and would probably only be on a short term contract as well! Grabban will be a frst choice for B'mouth as Williams will be for Millwall. Neither would have been sure of reular first team football at the Albion. Hampshire Gull
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12:16pm Mon 27 Jan 14

farside says...

With Macca coming back and Hoskins too we can probably cope with the loss of Barnes but we need a box to boxidfielder to replace Crofts or we have to change to 2 up front if we are to score goals to win games.
Conway can replace Buckley but we will miss his explosive pace.
A new long term deal for KLL would be a great insurance policy.
With Macca coming back and Hoskins too we can probably cope with the loss of Barnes but we need a box to boxidfielder to replace Crofts or we have to change to 2 up front if we are to score goals to win games. Conway can replace Buckley but we will miss his explosive pace. A new long term deal for KLL would be a great insurance policy. farside
  • Score: 20

12:19pm Mon 27 Jan 14

fan since 61 says...

Quite agree Mikeygit IMO the players that chose to turn us down have shown a lack of ambition and are wary of playing top flight football, they are no good to us
Quite agree Mikeygit IMO the players that chose to turn us down have shown a lack of ambition and are wary of playing top flight football, they are no good to us fan since 61
  • Score: 10

12:31pm Mon 27 Jan 14

AGT999 says...

Comments have been made that we have missed out on two signing, the players going or staying with clubs lower than us. I do not find this to be so surprising as they were obviously wanted a guaranteed starting place, who would either of those players displace in our starting lineup?
Comments have been made that we have missed out on two signing, the players going or staying with clubs lower than us. I do not find this to be so surprising as they were obviously wanted a guaranteed starting place, who would either of those players displace in our starting lineup? AGT999
  • Score: 10

12:37pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Sky Sports reporting we have had a bid turned down for Mustapha Carayol:
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Sky Sports reporting we have had a bid turned down for Mustapha Carayol: http://www1.skysport s.com/football/news/ 11680/9136132/transf er-news-middlesbroug h-shun-bid-for-muzzy -carayol Ex-pat Arnie
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12:41pm Mon 27 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

AGT999 wrote:
Comments have been made that we have missed out on two signing, the players going or staying with clubs lower than us. I do not find this to be so surprising as they were obviously wanted a guaranteed starting place, who would either of those players displace in our starting lineup?
Grabban was never coming to us, we were used to get him a better deal. Millwall have got a player that would have been used as cover by us, for them he might help stave off relegation.
As a policeman might say, 'move along, nothing to see here.'

Replace Crofts asap, work with what we have and continue to develop the young guns for next year. Bank the money from the sale of Bridcutt.

Hi Bro.
[quote][p][bold]AGT999[/bold] wrote: Comments have been made that we have missed out on two signing, the players going or staying with clubs lower than us. I do not find this to be so surprising as they were obviously wanted a guaranteed starting place, who would either of those players displace in our starting lineup?[/p][/quote]Grabban was never coming to us, we were used to get him a better deal. Millwall have got a player that would have been used as cover by us, for them he might help stave off relegation. As a policeman might say, 'move along, nothing to see here.' Replace Crofts asap, work with what we have and continue to develop the young guns for next year. Bank the money from the sale of Bridcutt. Hi Bro. VegasSeagull
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12:48pm Mon 27 Jan 14

fratsomrover says...

I see Brighton's bid for Muzzy Carayol has been rejected this morning.
Not having much luck are we ??
I see Brighton's bid for Muzzy Carayol has been rejected this morning. Not having much luck are we ?? fratsomrover
  • Score: 1

12:50pm Mon 27 Jan 14

adamcooper138 says...

Conway wanted by Blackburn too, get him in to ensure we have we have good cover on our wings, conway enjoyed his spell so Im sure he would choose us. Also Wickham has been recalled by Sunderland, maybe as part of the Bridcutt deal... Interesting times haha
Conway wanted by Blackburn too, get him in to ensure we have we have good cover on our wings, conway enjoyed his spell so Im sure he would choose us. Also Wickham has been recalled by Sunderland, maybe as part of the Bridcutt deal... Interesting times haha adamcooper138
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12:54pm Mon 27 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

fratsomrover wrote:
I see Brighton's bid for Muzzy Carayol has been rejected this morning.
Not having much luck are we ??
Connor Wickham has been recalled from his loan spell, maybe he could be a target?
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: I see Brighton's bid for Muzzy Carayol has been rejected this morning. Not having much luck are we ??[/p][/quote]Connor Wickham has been recalled from his loan spell, maybe he could be a target? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

1:01pm Mon 27 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

fratsomrover wrote:
I see Brighton's bid for Muzzy Carayol has been rejected this morning.
Not having much luck are we ??
Our bid for yet another wide player might suggest that the club is not too hopeful of getting Conway back, and an acceptance that keeping Kaz and Buckley fit for the rest of the season is a bit of a stretch.
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: I see Brighton's bid for Muzzy Carayol has been rejected this morning. Not having much luck are we ??[/p][/quote]Our bid for yet another wide player might suggest that the club is not too hopeful of getting Conway back, and an acceptance that keeping Kaz and Buckley fit for the rest of the season is a bit of a stretch. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -2

1:02pm Mon 27 Jan 14

rolivan says...

As it appears it is Your remit to report all things Albion would it not be a good idea to speak to and report meetings with Mr Burke and Mr Barber.All we seem to get is a lot of conjecture as to what might be needed.Also as we have now played every team in the Division surely OG and to a lesser degree NJ know what to expect for the 2nd half of the Season.Do you go and watch the DS games and know how players are playing and whether they are improving because I never seem to see any reports except after matches?
As it appears it is Your remit to report all things Albion would it not be a good idea to speak to and report meetings with Mr Burke and Mr Barber.All we seem to get is a lot of conjecture as to what might be needed.Also as we have now played every team in the Division surely OG and to a lesser degree NJ know what to expect for the 2nd half of the Season.Do you go and watch the DS games and know how players are playing and whether they are improving because I never seem to see any reports except after matches? rolivan
  • Score: 5

1:05pm Mon 27 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
fratsomrover wrote:
I see Brighton's bid for Muzzy Carayol has been rejected this morning.
Not having much luck are we ??
Our bid for yet another wide player might suggest that the club is not too hopeful of getting Conway back, and an acceptance that keeping Kaz and Buckley fit for the rest of the season is a bit of a stretch.
I got that wrong, Muzzy is a CM who can play wide.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: I see Brighton's bid for Muzzy Carayol has been rejected this morning. Not having much luck are we ??[/p][/quote]Our bid for yet another wide player might suggest that the club is not too hopeful of getting Conway back, and an acceptance that keeping Kaz and Buckley fit for the rest of the season is a bit of a stretch.[/p][/quote]I got that wrong, Muzzy is a CM who can play wide. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

1:28pm Mon 27 Jan 14

ColinPep1 says...

Conway and Mason must be available if Cardiff have signed Zaha and a Norwegian forward. Even if we just got them on loan until the end of the season that would do for now, and we can see about making either permanent in the Summer. We do need a central midfielder for Crofts and it would also be remiss of the club not to replace El-Abd.
Conway and Mason must be available if Cardiff have signed Zaha and a Norwegian forward. Even if we just got them on loan until the end of the season that would do for now, and we can see about making either permanent in the Summer. We do need a central midfielder for Crofts and it would also be remiss of the club not to replace El-Abd. ColinPep1
  • Score: 6

1:33pm Mon 27 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

ColinPep1 wrote:
Conway and Mason must be available if Cardiff have signed Zaha and a Norwegian forward. Even if we just got them on loan until the end of the season that would do for now, and we can see about making either permanent in the Summer. We do need a central midfielder for Crofts and it would also be remiss of the club not to replace El-Abd.
With CMS fast getting back on the park, do we need Mason? Hoskins should be fit by the time Obika's loan deal ends so we would have Ulloa, CMS and Hoskins, seems enough for the single striker system.
[quote][p][bold]ColinPep1[/bold] wrote: Conway and Mason must be available if Cardiff have signed Zaha and a Norwegian forward. Even if we just got them on loan until the end of the season that would do for now, and we can see about making either permanent in the Summer. We do need a central midfielder for Crofts and it would also be remiss of the club not to replace El-Abd.[/p][/quote]With CMS fast getting back on the park, do we need Mason? Hoskins should be fit by the time Obika's loan deal ends so we would have Ulloa, CMS and Hoskins, seems enough for the single striker system. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

1:33pm Mon 27 Jan 14

seagull176 says...

Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context?

Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire?

Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..
Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down.. seagull176
  • Score: 1

1:45pm Mon 27 Jan 14

lmspike says...

seagull176 wrote:
Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..
The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.
[quote][p][bold]seagull176[/bold] wrote: Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..[/p][/quote]The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad. lmspike
  • Score: -22

1:50pm Mon 27 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

lmspike wrote:
seagull176 wrote:
Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..
The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.
and the reasoning behind your comments about Burke and Barber is?
[quote][p][bold]lmspike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]seagull176[/bold] wrote: Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..[/p][/quote]The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.[/p][/quote]and the reasoning behind your comments about Burke and Barber is? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

1:58pm Mon 27 Jan 14

CumbrianSeagull says...

I see Gus has recalled Wickham from his loan, ready to swap with us now??
I see Gus has recalled Wickham from his loan, ready to swap with us now?? CumbrianSeagull
  • Score: 3

1:58pm Mon 27 Jan 14

tonypulis says...

lmspike wrote:
seagull176 wrote:
Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..
The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.
I'll think you'll find Mr Naylor is a Stoke fan. When I was manager there he was always hiding in the hedge at the bottom of my garden.
[quote][p][bold]lmspike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]seagull176[/bold] wrote: Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..[/p][/quote]The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.[/p][/quote]I'll think you'll find Mr Naylor is a Stoke fan. When I was manager there he was always hiding in the hedge at the bottom of my garden. tonypulis
  • Score: 14

2:27pm Mon 27 Jan 14

dave from bexill says...

AGT999 wrote:
Comments have been made that we have missed out on two signing, the players going or staying with clubs lower than us. I do not find this to be so surprising as they were obviously wanted a guaranteed starting place, who would either of those players displace in our starting lineup?
I'd be very surprised if any player at any club has ever been guaranteed a starting place. It can't and doesn't work like that.
[quote][p][bold]AGT999[/bold] wrote: Comments have been made that we have missed out on two signing, the players going or staying with clubs lower than us. I do not find this to be so surprising as they were obviously wanted a guaranteed starting place, who would either of those players displace in our starting lineup?[/p][/quote]I'd be very surprised if any player at any club has ever been guaranteed a starting place. It can't and doesn't work like that. dave from bexill
  • Score: 6

2:32pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Pathetically weighted headline
Pathetically weighted headline Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 1

2:34pm Mon 27 Jan 14

dave from bexill says...

lmspike wrote:
seagull176 wrote:
Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..
The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.
Wind ups, or just two very silly posts?
[quote][p][bold]lmspike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]seagull176[/bold] wrote: Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..[/p][/quote]The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.[/p][/quote]Wind ups, or just two very silly posts? dave from bexill
  • Score: 2

2:36pm Mon 27 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

dave from bexill wrote:
AGT999 wrote:
Comments have been made that we have missed out on two signing, the players going or staying with clubs lower than us. I do not find this to be so surprising as they were obviously wanted a guaranteed starting place, who would either of those players displace in our starting lineup?
I'd be very surprised if any player at any club has ever been guaranteed a starting place. It can't and doesn't work like that.
A guaranteed starting spot, no clubs don't offer that but, if the player asks, am I wanted here in a back up role, I think he can work it our for himself depending on the answer he gets. The player that chose Millwall over us wasn't going to replace Greer of Upson, he knew that, so to AGT's point, if the guy asked the question I suggested he should, then AGT is right, the guy probably wanted some assurances as to why he should join Brighton and what his role would be.
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AGT999[/bold] wrote: Comments have been made that we have missed out on two signing, the players going or staying with clubs lower than us. I do not find this to be so surprising as they were obviously wanted a guaranteed starting place, who would either of those players displace in our starting lineup?[/p][/quote]I'd be very surprised if any player at any club has ever been guaranteed a starting place. It can't and doesn't work like that.[/p][/quote]A guaranteed starting spot, no clubs don't offer that but, if the player asks, am I wanted here in a back up role, I think he can work it our for himself depending on the answer he gets. The player that chose Millwall over us wasn't going to replace Greer of Upson, he knew that, so to AGT's point, if the guy asked the question I suggested he should, then AGT is right, the guy probably wanted some assurances as to why he should join Brighton and what his role would be. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 7

2:41pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Chi Gull says...

dave from bexill wrote:
AGT999 wrote:
Comments have been made that we have missed out on two signing, the players going or staying with clubs lower than us. I do not find this to be so surprising as they were obviously wanted a guaranteed starting place, who would either of those players displace in our starting lineup?
I'd be very surprised if any player at any club has ever been guaranteed a starting place. It can't and doesn't work like that.
Yes but some guarantees are worth more than others. Players only have to look at our squad to see where they are likely to be in the pecking order and maybe we are not able to make the promises clubs lower down the table can make to that level of player. Agreed that if a player hits bad form a place cannot be guaranteed, but they all know that.

If Oscar and the Board are serious about improving the squad, they are only going to spend serious money on one or two quality players. They are never going to try as hard when it comes to potential squad players like Williams, even when the cover is starting to look a bit thin.
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AGT999[/bold] wrote: Comments have been made that we have missed out on two signing, the players going or staying with clubs lower than us. I do not find this to be so surprising as they were obviously wanted a guaranteed starting place, who would either of those players displace in our starting lineup?[/p][/quote]I'd be very surprised if any player at any club has ever been guaranteed a starting place. It can't and doesn't work like that.[/p][/quote]Yes but some guarantees are worth more than others. Players only have to look at our squad to see where they are likely to be in the pecking order and maybe we are not able to make the promises clubs lower down the table can make to that level of player. Agreed that if a player hits bad form a place cannot be guaranteed, but they all know that. If Oscar and the Board are serious about improving the squad, they are only going to spend serious money on one or two quality players. They are never going to try as hard when it comes to potential squad players like Williams, even when the cover is starting to look a bit thin. Chi Gull
  • Score: 2

2:44pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Yogi says...

Interview Barber & Burke and then print it, all this conjecture about them is boring. The club will be doing their utmost to bring in the right players and the fans know it is a very difficult and frustrating job. The fans do realise this but obviously would like to see signings but they have to be what's best for everyone.

Have to say these "Talking Point" articles that keep appearing show they have nothing else interesting to report. I know we are desperate for some good news but our fans have always been patient and do not need these items.

Keep the faith, eh!!!
Interview Barber & Burke and then print it, all this conjecture about them is boring. The club will be doing their utmost to bring in the right players and the fans know it is a very difficult and frustrating job. The fans do realise this but obviously would like to see signings but they have to be what's best for everyone. Have to say these "Talking Point" articles that keep appearing show they have nothing else interesting to report. I know we are desperate for some good news but our fans have always been patient and do not need these items. Keep the faith, eh!!! Yogi
  • Score: 12

2:54pm Mon 27 Jan 14

dave from bexill says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
AGT999 wrote:
Comments have been made that we have missed out on two signing, the players going or staying with clubs lower than us. I do not find this to be so surprising as they were obviously wanted a guaranteed starting place, who would either of those players displace in our starting lineup?
I'd be very surprised if any player at any club has ever been guaranteed a starting place. It can't and doesn't work like that.
A guaranteed starting spot, no clubs don't offer that but, if the player asks, am I wanted here in a back up role, I think he can work it our for himself depending on the answer he gets. The player that chose Millwall over us wasn't going to replace Greer of Upson, he knew that, so to AGT's point, if the guy asked the question I suggested he should, then AGT is right, the guy probably wanted some assurances as to why he should join Brighton and what his role would be.
Surely any player worth his salt, would expect to work hard to catch the eye of the coaches and hope to force his way into the team. Footballs a squad game and a long season, 46 games plus. I doubt there's such a thing these days as a first starting eleven. I'd guess that both Grabban and Williams were offered more favourable terms by Bournemouth and Millwall respectively, but can't believe, particularly in the case of Williams, that he expected to walk into the team at Millwall.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AGT999[/bold] wrote: Comments have been made that we have missed out on two signing, the players going or staying with clubs lower than us. I do not find this to be so surprising as they were obviously wanted a guaranteed starting place, who would either of those players displace in our starting lineup?[/p][/quote]I'd be very surprised if any player at any club has ever been guaranteed a starting place. It can't and doesn't work like that.[/p][/quote]A guaranteed starting spot, no clubs don't offer that but, if the player asks, am I wanted here in a back up role, I think he can work it our for himself depending on the answer he gets. The player that chose Millwall over us wasn't going to replace Greer of Upson, he knew that, so to AGT's point, if the guy asked the question I suggested he should, then AGT is right, the guy probably wanted some assurances as to why he should join Brighton and what his role would be.[/p][/quote]Surely any player worth his salt, would expect to work hard to catch the eye of the coaches and hope to force his way into the team. Footballs a squad game and a long season, 46 games plus. I doubt there's such a thing these days as a first starting eleven. I'd guess that both Grabban and Williams were offered more favourable terms by Bournemouth and Millwall respectively, but can't believe, particularly in the case of Williams, that he expected to walk into the team at Millwall. dave from bexill
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2:54pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Neville says...

My view is that we should be pulling all the stops out to get Conway back, a good winger who can actually provide decent crosses. We should also get a combative midfielder and a striker.Unfortunatel
y I think we may get one of these possibly none.
Its true the young players have done well when asked but this team without strengthening will not make the top six and that is what TB expected,so unless the board back OG with some new quality players then they cannot expect that to happen.
I expect Bridcutt and Buckley to go and with the additional revenue from the cup run,savings on Barnes and ,El Abd that finance will sit nicely with the board.There is also the fact that we have not yet matched last years expenditure,which was promised to OG.
I am afraid FFP is uppermost in PB mind and this will determine policy,regardless of whatever all of our competitors are doing and all of them even Ipswich have strengthened.
Within the next few weeks will will have a realistic idea of how the season will pan out,I just hope there is some momentum to keep the fans interest alive.
Most fans accept that we might not make it this time but most expect it next season,who is to say with the financial regulations that next season will be any different.We also need to bear in ind that only a few will still be currently as most contracts or loans expire and a rebuild is necessary,so promotion possibly even more difficult than now.
Finally I really do think we should sort out TK contract and extend MU who has been without doubt our most consistent player.
Just my thoughts and I await all the thumbs down for telling how it is.
My view is that we should be pulling all the stops out to get Conway back, a good winger who can actually provide decent crosses. We should also get a combative midfielder and a striker.Unfortunatel y I think we may get one of these possibly none. Its true the young players have done well when asked but this team without strengthening will not make the top six and that is what TB expected,so unless the board back OG with some new quality players then they cannot expect that to happen. I expect Bridcutt and Buckley to go and with the additional revenue from the cup run,savings on Barnes and ,El Abd that finance will sit nicely with the board.There is also the fact that we have not yet matched last years expenditure,which was promised to OG. I am afraid FFP is uppermost in PB mind and this will determine policy,regardless of whatever all of our competitors are doing and all of them even Ipswich have strengthened. Within the next few weeks will will have a realistic idea of how the season will pan out,I just hope there is some momentum to keep the fans interest alive. Most fans accept that we might not make it this time but most expect it next season,who is to say with the financial regulations that next season will be any different.We also need to bear in ind that only a few will still be currently as most contracts or loans expire and a rebuild is necessary,so promotion possibly even more difficult than now. Finally I really do think we should sort out TK contract and extend MU who has been without doubt our most consistent player. Just my thoughts and I await all the thumbs down for telling how it is. Neville
  • Score: 9

3:17pm Mon 27 Jan 14

WestStander17 says...

I'm pleased its not just me thinking that we are fairly well covered.

I'm not against buying players but with our squad as it is I think we are in a position to bring in 1st team players. Players that improve our 1st team rather than ones that just pad the squad and only play when we get injuries.

Having said that, I think if Connor Wickham is part of any Bridcutt deal, from what I know of him, I think he is a decent addition, mainly due to his young age and potential. Ulloa, Wickham, CMS and Hoskins would be a great group of strikers in the Championship.
I'm pleased its not just me thinking that we are fairly well covered. I'm not against buying players but with our squad as it is I think we are in a position to bring in 1st team players. Players that improve our 1st team rather than ones that just pad the squad and only play when we get injuries. Having said that, I think if Connor Wickham is part of any Bridcutt deal, from what I know of him, I think he is a decent addition, mainly due to his young age and potential. Ulloa, Wickham, CMS and Hoskins would be a great group of strikers in the Championship. WestStander17
  • Score: 10

4:14pm Mon 27 Jan 14

wiseman of hove says...

"Need a flurry of signings"? Not sure I concur. One or two maybe
Generally, I like the way we are progressing. Conway would be an asset. Wickham as part of a Bridcutt deal? Wickham is a bit of a curates egg. Still to fulfill early promise, but I'd go for it because we have Oscar the coach,
If I had to prioritise, it would be a 'driving' midfielder to cover for the admirable Cofts. Just a Jack Bertolini, Dave Turner or Brian Horton. There, simple!
"Need a flurry of signings"? Not sure I concur. One or two maybe Generally, I like the way we are progressing. Conway would be an asset. Wickham as part of a Bridcutt deal? Wickham is a bit of a curates egg. Still to fulfill early promise, but I'd go for it because we have Oscar the coach, If I had to prioritise, it would be a 'driving' midfielder to cover for the admirable Cofts. Just a Jack Bertolini, Dave Turner or Brian Horton. There, simple! wiseman of hove
  • Score: 11

4:56pm Mon 27 Jan 14

arc12 says...

I for one don't we need 'a flurry of signings' - like many above I'd rather the club persist with promoting from the Development squad even if it means delaying a push for the Premier. With FFP being taken so seriously by the club I'd be surprised if anyone came in unless part of a deal that saw Bridcutt leave.
I for one don't we need 'a flurry of signings' - like many above I'd rather the club persist with promoting from the Development squad even if it means delaying a push for the Premier. With FFP being taken so seriously by the club I'd be surprised if anyone came in unless part of a deal that saw Bridcutt leave. arc12
  • Score: 1

5:12pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Neville wrote:
My view is that we should be pulling all the stops out to get Conway back, a good winger who can actually provide decent crosses. We should also get a combative midfielder and a striker.Unfortunatel

y I think we may get one of these possibly none.
Its true the young players have done well when asked but this team without strengthening will not make the top six and that is what TB expected,so unless the board back OG with some new quality players then they cannot expect that to happen.
I expect Bridcutt and Buckley to go and with the additional revenue from the cup run,savings on Barnes and ,El Abd that finance will sit nicely with the board.There is also the fact that we have not yet matched last years expenditure,which was promised to OG.
I am afraid FFP is uppermost in PB mind and this will determine policy,regardless of whatever all of our competitors are doing and all of them even Ipswich have strengthened.
Within the next few weeks will will have a realistic idea of how the season will pan out,I just hope there is some momentum to keep the fans interest alive.
Most fans accept that we might not make it this time but most expect it next season,who is to say with the financial regulations that next season will be any different.We also need to bear in ind that only a few will still be currently as most contracts or loans expire and a rebuild is necessary,so promotion possibly even more difficult than now.
Finally I really do think we should sort out TK contract and extend MU who has been without doubt our most consistent player.
Just my thoughts and I await all the thumbs down for telling how it is.
...for telling how you THINK it is, not necessarily how it ACTUALLY is.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: My view is that we should be pulling all the stops out to get Conway back, a good winger who can actually provide decent crosses. We should also get a combative midfielder and a striker.Unfortunatel y I think we may get one of these possibly none. Its true the young players have done well when asked but this team without strengthening will not make the top six and that is what TB expected,so unless the board back OG with some new quality players then they cannot expect that to happen. I expect Bridcutt and Buckley to go and with the additional revenue from the cup run,savings on Barnes and ,El Abd that finance will sit nicely with the board.There is also the fact that we have not yet matched last years expenditure,which was promised to OG. I am afraid FFP is uppermost in PB mind and this will determine policy,regardless of whatever all of our competitors are doing and all of them even Ipswich have strengthened. Within the next few weeks will will have a realistic idea of how the season will pan out,I just hope there is some momentum to keep the fans interest alive. Most fans accept that we might not make it this time but most expect it next season,who is to say with the financial regulations that next season will be any different.We also need to bear in ind that only a few will still be currently as most contracts or loans expire and a rebuild is necessary,so promotion possibly even more difficult than now. Finally I really do think we should sort out TK contract and extend MU who has been without doubt our most consistent player. Just my thoughts and I await all the thumbs down for telling how it is.[/p][/quote]...for telling how you THINK it is, not necessarily how it ACTUALLY is. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

5:16pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

seagull176 wrote:
Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context?

Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire?

Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..
(a) This is an opinion piece, nothing more, and should be treated as such.

(b) Andy Naylor is not an Albion fan, so can maybe look at the club more dispassionately. Having a supporter as chief correspondent would be awful, IMO.
[quote][p][bold]seagull176[/bold] wrote: Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..[/p][/quote](a) This is an opinion piece, nothing more, and should be treated as such. (b) Andy Naylor is not an Albion fan, so can maybe look at the club more dispassionately. Having a supporter as chief correspondent would be awful, IMO. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: -2

5:24pm Mon 27 Jan 14

pjwilk says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
lmspike wrote:
seagull176 wrote:
Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..
The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.
and the reasoning behind your comments about Burke and Barber is?
Burke and Barber just want mediocre players at the lowest prices and wages,they also want to sell at the highest prices without any cover for these players.They also undermine the manager by having all the say on transfers which leaves the manager as a non manager.Get shot of the Blues Bros and lets have a real manager who will not put up with any interference from people who only know about money and nothing about players.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lmspike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]seagull176[/bold] wrote: Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..[/p][/quote]The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.[/p][/quote]and the reasoning behind your comments about Burke and Barber is?[/p][/quote]Burke and Barber just want mediocre players at the lowest prices and wages,they also want to sell at the highest prices without any cover for these players.They also undermine the manager by having all the say on transfers which leaves the manager as a non manager.Get shot of the Blues Bros and lets have a real manager who will not put up with any interference from people who only know about money and nothing about players. pjwilk
  • Score: -7

5:27pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Hovite says...

dave from bexill wrote:
AGT999 wrote:
Comments have been made that we have missed out on two signing, the players going or staying with clubs lower than us. I do not find this to be so surprising as they were obviously wanted a guaranteed starting place, who would either of those players displace in our starting lineup?
I'd be very surprised if any player at any club has ever been guaranteed a starting place. It can't and doesn't work like that.
You would be surprised, this is a massive consideration in the loan market and I am sure that because Bournemouth will always give Grabban a start would have been a factor in this.

If he has a good end to his season with plenty of games and goals there will be Prem clubs after him, and with Bournemouth he has more chance of showing what he can do if he is starting every week. They could sell him for a hell of a lot more money as well.
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AGT999[/bold] wrote: Comments have been made that we have missed out on two signing, the players going or staying with clubs lower than us. I do not find this to be so surprising as they were obviously wanted a guaranteed starting place, who would either of those players displace in our starting lineup?[/p][/quote]I'd be very surprised if any player at any club has ever been guaranteed a starting place. It can't and doesn't work like that.[/p][/quote]You would be surprised, this is a massive consideration in the loan market and I am sure that because Bournemouth will always give Grabban a start would have been a factor in this. If he has a good end to his season with plenty of games and goals there will be Prem clubs after him, and with Bournemouth he has more chance of showing what he can do if he is starting every week. They could sell him for a hell of a lot more money as well. Hovite
  • Score: 3

5:30pm Mon 27 Jan 14

searich1983 says...

CumbrianSeagull wrote:
I see Gus has recalled Wickham from his loan, ready to swap with us now??
We cannot pay Williams or Grabban wages and we will be able to pay Wickham's, please don't make me laugh!!!! Or I forgot, GP would let the player come to us for free, lol
[quote][p][bold]CumbrianSeagull[/bold] wrote: I see Gus has recalled Wickham from his loan, ready to swap with us now??[/p][/quote]We cannot pay Williams or Grabban wages and we will be able to pay Wickham's, please don't make me laugh!!!! Or I forgot, GP would let the player come to us for free, lol searich1983
  • Score: -4

5:33pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Baldseagull says...

wiseman of hove wrote:
"Need a flurry of signings"? Not sure I concur. One or two maybe
Generally, I like the way we are progressing. Conway would be an asset. Wickham as part of a Bridcutt deal? Wickham is a bit of a curates egg. Still to fulfill early promise, but I'd go for it because we have Oscar the coach,
If I had to prioritise, it would be a 'driving' midfielder to cover for the admirable Cofts. Just a Jack Bertolini, Dave Turner or Brian Horton. There, simple!
Wickham is 20 and just hit 8 in 11 games for Wednesday, still showing plenty of promise I would say.
[quote][p][bold]wiseman of hove[/bold] wrote: "Need a flurry of signings"? Not sure I concur. One or two maybe Generally, I like the way we are progressing. Conway would be an asset. Wickham as part of a Bridcutt deal? Wickham is a bit of a curates egg. Still to fulfill early promise, but I'd go for it because we have Oscar the coach, If I had to prioritise, it would be a 'driving' midfielder to cover for the admirable Cofts. Just a Jack Bertolini, Dave Turner or Brian Horton. There, simple![/p][/quote]Wickham is 20 and just hit 8 in 11 games for Wednesday, still showing plenty of promise I would say. Baldseagull
  • Score: 6

5:37pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Albion In Staffs says...

pjwilk wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
lmspike wrote:
seagull176 wrote:
Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..
The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.
and the reasoning behind your comments about Burke and Barber is?
Burke and Barber just want mediocre players at the lowest prices and wages,they also want to sell at the highest prices without any cover for these players.They also undermine the manager by having all the say on transfers which leaves the manager as a non manager.Get shot of the Blues Bros and lets have a real manager who will not put up with any interference from people who only know about money and nothing about players.
First of all, we don't have a manager, he's a a coach and his job description will reflect the set up.
Secondly, it's too easy to blame the 'suits' purely because they're 'suits'. No-one is immune from criticism but you can't make sweeping judgements on transfer policy when there's still time for stuff to happen.
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lmspike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]seagull176[/bold] wrote: Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..[/p][/quote]The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.[/p][/quote]and the reasoning behind your comments about Burke and Barber is?[/p][/quote]Burke and Barber just want mediocre players at the lowest prices and wages,they also want to sell at the highest prices without any cover for these players.They also undermine the manager by having all the say on transfers which leaves the manager as a non manager.Get shot of the Blues Bros and lets have a real manager who will not put up with any interference from people who only know about money and nothing about players.[/p][/quote]First of all, we don't have a manager, he's a a coach and his job description will reflect the set up. Secondly, it's too easy to blame the 'suits' purely because they're 'suits'. No-one is immune from criticism but you can't make sweeping judgements on transfer policy when there's still time for stuff to happen. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 4

5:45pm Mon 27 Jan 14

searich1983 says...

pjwilk wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
lmspike wrote:
seagull176 wrote:
Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..
The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.
and the reasoning behind your comments about Burke and Barber is?
Burke and Barber just want mediocre players at the lowest prices and wages,they also want to sell at the highest prices without any cover for these players.They also undermine the manager by having all the say on transfers which leaves the manager as a non manager.Get shot of the Blues Bros and lets have a real manager who will not put up with any interference from people who only know about money and nothing about players.
Without a doubt the best comment by far for a while, well said pjwilk!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lmspike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]seagull176[/bold] wrote: Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..[/p][/quote]The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.[/p][/quote]and the reasoning behind your comments about Burke and Barber is?[/p][/quote]Burke and Barber just want mediocre players at the lowest prices and wages,they also want to sell at the highest prices without any cover for these players.They also undermine the manager by having all the say on transfers which leaves the manager as a non manager.Get shot of the Blues Bros and lets have a real manager who will not put up with any interference from people who only know about money and nothing about players.[/p][/quote]Without a doubt the best comment by far for a while, well said pjwilk!!!!!! searich1983
  • Score: -12

5:46pm Mon 27 Jan 14

dave from bexill says...

Hovite wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
AGT999 wrote:
Comments have been made that we have missed out on two signing, the players going or staying with clubs lower than us. I do not find this to be so surprising as they were obviously wanted a guaranteed starting place, who would either of those players displace in our starting lineup?
I'd be very surprised if any player at any club has ever been guaranteed a starting place. It can't and doesn't work like that.
You would be surprised, this is a massive consideration in the loan market and I am sure that because Bournemouth will always give Grabban a start would have been a factor in this.

If he has a good end to his season with plenty of games and goals there will be Prem clubs after him, and with Bournemouth he has more chance of showing what he can do if he is starting every week. They could sell him for a hell of a lot more money as well.
I agree with your second paragraph Hovite, however I was only referring to permanent signings.
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AGT999[/bold] wrote: Comments have been made that we have missed out on two signing, the players going or staying with clubs lower than us. I do not find this to be so surprising as they were obviously wanted a guaranteed starting place, who would either of those players displace in our starting lineup?[/p][/quote]I'd be very surprised if any player at any club has ever been guaranteed a starting place. It can't and doesn't work like that.[/p][/quote]You would be surprised, this is a massive consideration in the loan market and I am sure that because Bournemouth will always give Grabban a start would have been a factor in this. If he has a good end to his season with plenty of games and goals there will be Prem clubs after him, and with Bournemouth he has more chance of showing what he can do if he is starting every week. They could sell him for a hell of a lot more money as well.[/p][/quote]I agree with your second paragraph Hovite, however I was only referring to permanent signings. dave from bexill
  • Score: 1

5:46pm Mon 27 Jan 14

wiseman of hove says...

Baldseagull wrote:
wiseman of hove wrote:
"Need a flurry of signings"? Not sure I concur. One or two maybe
Generally, I like the way we are progressing. Conway would be an asset. Wickham as part of a Bridcutt deal? Wickham is a bit of a curates egg. Still to fulfill early promise, but I'd go for it because we have Oscar the coach,
If I had to prioritise, it would be a 'driving' midfielder to cover for the admirable Cofts. Just a Jack Bertolini, Dave Turner or Brian Horton. There, simple!
Wickham is 20 and just hit 8 in 11 games for Wednesday, still showing plenty of promise I would say.
It was in the context of him being extravagantly talked of as England prospect, but you are absolutely right to highlight his goalscoring at a struggling club.
As I posted, I would like him as part of a Bridcutt deal.
[quote][p][bold]Baldseagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wiseman of hove[/bold] wrote: "Need a flurry of signings"? Not sure I concur. One or two maybe Generally, I like the way we are progressing. Conway would be an asset. Wickham as part of a Bridcutt deal? Wickham is a bit of a curates egg. Still to fulfill early promise, but I'd go for it because we have Oscar the coach, If I had to prioritise, it would be a 'driving' midfielder to cover for the admirable Cofts. Just a Jack Bertolini, Dave Turner or Brian Horton. There, simple![/p][/quote]Wickham is 20 and just hit 8 in 11 games for Wednesday, still showing plenty of promise I would say.[/p][/quote]It was in the context of him being extravagantly talked of as England prospect, but you are absolutely right to highlight his goalscoring at a struggling club. As I posted, I would like him as part of a Bridcutt deal. wiseman of hove
  • Score: 2

5:52pm Mon 27 Jan 14

oksouthstander says...

wiseman of hove wrote:
"Need a flurry of signings"? Not sure I concur. One or two maybe
Generally, I like the way we are progressing. Conway would be an asset. Wickham as part of a Bridcutt deal? Wickham is a bit of a curates egg. Still to fulfill early promise, but I'd go for it because we have Oscar the coach,
If I had to prioritise, it would be a 'driving' midfielder to cover for the admirable Cofts. Just a Jack Bertolini, Dave Turner or Brian Horton. There, simple!
Fully agree,we need cover in the midfield engine room impressed with Ince shades of Eric Young with a good football brain.If Bridcutt has gone I would hope to have at least the proven Conway back in his Albion shirt by Friday.
[quote][p][bold]wiseman of hove[/bold] wrote: "Need a flurry of signings"? Not sure I concur. One or two maybe Generally, I like the way we are progressing. Conway would be an asset. Wickham as part of a Bridcutt deal? Wickham is a bit of a curates egg. Still to fulfill early promise, but I'd go for it because we have Oscar the coach, If I had to prioritise, it would be a 'driving' midfielder to cover for the admirable Cofts. Just a Jack Bertolini, Dave Turner or Brian Horton. There, simple![/p][/quote]Fully agree,we need cover in the midfield engine room impressed with Ince shades of Eric Young with a good football brain.If Bridcutt has gone I would hope to have at least the proven Conway back in his Albion shirt by Friday. oksouthstander
  • Score: 4

6:00pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

No player can be guaranteed a starting place. It just won't work.
You need players who have to work for their place and who know if their standards drop they will be replaced. This is how the squad system works and successful teams are created.
I'm not bothered we missed out on Grabban and Williams because we already have better quality in our club already.
If, as it looks, we will lose Liam Bridcutt then the Connor Wickham scenario looks intriguing because I think Oscar will make him a much better player as he has already done with our existing players. UTA
No player can be guaranteed a starting place. It just won't work. You need players who have to work for their place and who know if their standards drop they will be replaced. This is how the squad system works and successful teams are created. I'm not bothered we missed out on Grabban and Williams because we already have better quality in our club already. If, as it looks, we will lose Liam Bridcutt then the Connor Wickham scenario looks intriguing because I think Oscar will make him a much better player as he has already done with our existing players. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 5

6:05pm Mon 27 Jan 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

rolivan wrote:
As it appears it is Your remit to report all things Albion would it not be a good idea to speak to and report meetings with Mr Burke and Mr Barber.All we seem to get is a lot of conjecture as to what might be needed.Also as we have now played every team in the Division surely OG and to a lesser degree NJ know what to expect for the 2nd half of the Season.Do you go and watch the DS games and know how players are playing and whether they are improving because I never seem to see any reports except after matches?
They are all available LIVE on Seagulls Player at Home. Fantastic service for those of us overseas who can't get down to Lancing. Thank you Adam Tighe and I.T Dept!
[quote][p][bold]rolivan[/bold] wrote: As it appears it is Your remit to report all things Albion would it not be a good idea to speak to and report meetings with Mr Burke and Mr Barber.All we seem to get is a lot of conjecture as to what might be needed.Also as we have now played every team in the Division surely OG and to a lesser degree NJ know what to expect for the 2nd half of the Season.Do you go and watch the DS games and know how players are playing and whether they are improving because I never seem to see any reports except after matches?[/p][/quote]They are all available LIVE on Seagulls Player at Home. Fantastic service for those of us overseas who can't get down to Lancing. Thank you Adam Tighe and I.T Dept! WisdomSpeaks
  • Score: 3

6:05pm Mon 27 Jan 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

rolivan wrote:
As it appears it is Your remit to report all things Albion would it not be a good idea to speak to and report meetings with Mr Burke and Mr Barber.All we seem to get is a lot of conjecture as to what might be needed.Also as we have now played every team in the Division surely OG and to a lesser degree NJ know what to expect for the 2nd half of the Season.Do you go and watch the DS games and know how players are playing and whether they are improving because I never seem to see any reports except after matches?
They are all available LIVE on Seagulls Player at Home. Fantastic service for those of us overseas who can't get down to Lancing. Thank you Adam Tighe and I.T Dept!
[quote][p][bold]rolivan[/bold] wrote: As it appears it is Your remit to report all things Albion would it not be a good idea to speak to and report meetings with Mr Burke and Mr Barber.All we seem to get is a lot of conjecture as to what might be needed.Also as we have now played every team in the Division surely OG and to a lesser degree NJ know what to expect for the 2nd half of the Season.Do you go and watch the DS games and know how players are playing and whether they are improving because I never seem to see any reports except after matches?[/p][/quote]They are all available LIVE on Seagulls Player at Home. Fantastic service for those of us overseas who can't get down to Lancing. Thank you Adam Tighe and I.T Dept! WisdomSpeaks
  • Score: 1

6:37pm Mon 27 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Many on here seem to think that we should sign three maybe four players, when surely two would suffice, so lets have a flurry of signings, but keep the number to two. Replace Crofts and sign a DS type as CB.
Unless Oscar has a plan to now go with two strikers I fail to see why we should sign another.
The same would go for wide players, we do have a few on our books, but that said, I can see the attraction of bringing Conway back.
I just don't understand why so many are calling for a bunch of new players when our biggest loss has been that of Crofts. If we were able to get thru half a season with more players out thru injury than you can shake a stick at, and still be just outside the playoffs, why all the fuss over losing El-Abd and Barnes. CMS is retuning so the sale of Barnes is covered. Bruno, Calde, Greer, Upson, Ward, Chicksen and Dunk, four on the field and three for cover, maybe not ideal but you can't say that we are threadbare at the back.

So let's get the flurry over and done with, replace Crofts and sign Conway, if we can, and call it a day. There is always the loan window if something goes drastically wrong in the next few weeks.
Many on here seem to think that we should sign three maybe four players, when surely two would suffice, so lets have a flurry of signings, but keep the number to two. Replace Crofts and sign a DS type as CB. Unless Oscar has a plan to now go with two strikers I fail to see why we should sign another. The same would go for wide players, we do have a few on our books, but that said, I can see the attraction of bringing Conway back. I just don't understand why so many are calling for a bunch of new players when our biggest loss has been that of Crofts. If we were able to get thru half a season with more players out thru injury than you can shake a stick at, and still be just outside the playoffs, why all the fuss over losing El-Abd and Barnes. CMS is retuning so the sale of Barnes is covered. Bruno, Calde, Greer, Upson, Ward, Chicksen and Dunk, four on the field and three for cover, maybe not ideal but you can't say that we are threadbare at the back. So let's get the flurry over and done with, replace Crofts and sign Conway, if we can, and call it a day. There is always the loan window if something goes drastically wrong in the next few weeks. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 7

6:50pm Mon 27 Jan 14

pjwilk says...

searich1983 wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
lmspike wrote:
seagull176 wrote:
Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..
The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.
and the reasoning behind your comments about Burke and Barber is?
Burke and Barber just want mediocre players at the lowest prices and wages,they also want to sell at the highest prices without any cover for these players.They also undermine the manager by having all the say on transfers which leaves the manager as a non manager.Get shot of the Blues Bros and lets have a real manager who will not put up with any interference from people who only know about money and nothing about players.
Without a doubt the best comment by far for a while, well said pjwilk!!!!!!
Thanks searich 1983 its just what i feel.
[quote][p][bold]searich1983[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lmspike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]seagull176[/bold] wrote: Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..[/p][/quote]The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.[/p][/quote]and the reasoning behind your comments about Burke and Barber is?[/p][/quote]Burke and Barber just want mediocre players at the lowest prices and wages,they also want to sell at the highest prices without any cover for these players.They also undermine the manager by having all the say on transfers which leaves the manager as a non manager.Get shot of the Blues Bros and lets have a real manager who will not put up with any interference from people who only know about money and nothing about players.[/p][/quote]Without a doubt the best comment by far for a while, well said pjwilk!!!!!![/p][/quote]Thanks searich 1983 its just what i feel. pjwilk
  • Score: 0

6:53pm Mon 27 Jan 14

pjwilk says...

searich1983 wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
lmspike wrote:
seagull176 wrote:
Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..
The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.
and the reasoning behind your comments about Burke and Barber is?
Burke and Barber just want mediocre players at the lowest prices and wages,they also want to sell at the highest prices without any cover for these players.They also undermine the manager by having all the say on transfers which leaves the manager as a non manager.Get shot of the Blues Bros and lets have a real manager who will not put up with any interference from people who only know about money and nothing about players.
Without a doubt the best comment by far for a while, well said pjwilk!!!!!!
Thanks Searich 1983 it my feeling we need a real Manager.
[quote][p][bold]searich1983[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lmspike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]seagull176[/bold] wrote: Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..[/p][/quote]The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.[/p][/quote]and the reasoning behind your comments about Burke and Barber is?[/p][/quote]Burke and Barber just want mediocre players at the lowest prices and wages,they also want to sell at the highest prices without any cover for these players.They also undermine the manager by having all the say on transfers which leaves the manager as a non manager.Get shot of the Blues Bros and lets have a real manager who will not put up with any interference from people who only know about money and nothing about players.[/p][/quote]Without a doubt the best comment by far for a while, well said pjwilk!!!!!![/p][/quote]Thanks Searich 1983 it my feeling we need a real Manager. pjwilk
  • Score: -3

7:02pm Mon 27 Jan 14

rolivan says...

WisdomSpeaks wrote:
rolivan wrote:
As it appears it is Your remit to report all things Albion would it not be a good idea to speak to and report meetings with Mr Burke and Mr Barber.All we seem to get is a lot of conjecture as to what might be needed.Also as we have now played every team in the Division surely OG and to a lesser degree NJ know what to expect for the 2nd half of the Season.Do you go and watch the DS games and know how players are playing and whether they are improving because I never seem to see any reports except after matches?
They are all available LIVE on Seagulls Player at Home. Fantastic service for those of us overseas who can't get down to Lancing. Thank you Adam Tighe and I.T Dept!
Yes I have a subscription my post was aimed at the Author.
[quote][p][bold]WisdomSpeaks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rolivan[/bold] wrote: As it appears it is Your remit to report all things Albion would it not be a good idea to speak to and report meetings with Mr Burke and Mr Barber.All we seem to get is a lot of conjecture as to what might be needed.Also as we have now played every team in the Division surely OG and to a lesser degree NJ know what to expect for the 2nd half of the Season.Do you go and watch the DS games and know how players are playing and whether they are improving because I never seem to see any reports except after matches?[/p][/quote]They are all available LIVE on Seagulls Player at Home. Fantastic service for those of us overseas who can't get down to Lancing. Thank you Adam Tighe and I.T Dept![/p][/quote]Yes I have a subscription my post was aimed at the Author. rolivan
  • Score: 1

7:11pm Mon 27 Jan 14

tonypulis says...

pjwilk wrote:
searich1983 wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
lmspike wrote:
seagull176 wrote:
Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..
The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.
and the reasoning behind your comments about Burke and Barber is?
Burke and Barber just want mediocre players at the lowest prices and wages,they also want to sell at the highest prices without any cover for these players.They also undermine the manager by having all the say on transfers which leaves the manager as a non manager.Get shot of the Blues Bros and lets have a real manager who will not put up with any interference from people who only know about money and nothing about players.
Without a doubt the best comment by far for a while, well said pjwilk!!!!!!
Thanks Searich 1983 it my feeling we need a real Manager.
I'm free......well I will be at the end of the season. Prince charming is starting to get on my t1ts
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]searich1983[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lmspike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]seagull176[/bold] wrote: Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..[/p][/quote]The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.[/p][/quote]and the reasoning behind your comments about Burke and Barber is?[/p][/quote]Burke and Barber just want mediocre players at the lowest prices and wages,they also want to sell at the highest prices without any cover for these players.They also undermine the manager by having all the say on transfers which leaves the manager as a non manager.Get shot of the Blues Bros and lets have a real manager who will not put up with any interference from people who only know about money and nothing about players.[/p][/quote]Without a doubt the best comment by far for a while, well said pjwilk!!!!!![/p][/quote]Thanks Searich 1983 it my feeling we need a real Manager.[/p][/quote]I'm free......well I will be at the end of the season. Prince charming is starting to get on my t1ts tonypulis
  • Score: 3

7:49pm Mon 27 Jan 14

OldGull says...

tonypulis wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
searich1983 wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
lmspike wrote:
seagull176 wrote:
Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..
The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.
and the reasoning behind your comments about Burke and Barber is?
Burke and Barber just want mediocre players at the lowest prices and wages,they also want to sell at the highest prices without any cover for these players.They also undermine the manager by having all the say on transfers which leaves the manager as a non manager.Get shot of the Blues Bros and lets have a real manager who will not put up with any interference from people who only know about money and nothing about players.
Without a doubt the best comment by far for a while, well said pjwilk!!!!!!
Thanks Searich 1983 it my feeling we need a real Manager.
I'm free......well I will be at the end of the season. Prince charming is starting to get on my t1ts
Yes I don't understand Prince Charming's thinking.
He must know that you need a 7ft striker to get on the end of the missiles fired out of your defence
[quote][p][bold]tonypulis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]searich1983[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lmspike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]seagull176[/bold] wrote: Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..[/p][/quote]The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.[/p][/quote]and the reasoning behind your comments about Burke and Barber is?[/p][/quote]Burke and Barber just want mediocre players at the lowest prices and wages,they also want to sell at the highest prices without any cover for these players.They also undermine the manager by having all the say on transfers which leaves the manager as a non manager.Get shot of the Blues Bros and lets have a real manager who will not put up with any interference from people who only know about money and nothing about players.[/p][/quote]Without a doubt the best comment by far for a while, well said pjwilk!!!!!![/p][/quote]Thanks Searich 1983 it my feeling we need a real Manager.[/p][/quote]I'm free......well I will be at the end of the season. Prince charming is starting to get on my t1ts[/p][/quote]Yes I don't understand Prince Charming's thinking. He must know that you need a 7ft striker to get on the end of the missiles fired out of your defence OldGull
  • Score: 2

8:05pm Mon 27 Jan 14

impose our game gull says...

"It must be tempting for his bosses to think not much damage will be done if, by Saturday, the squad has not been brought back up to strength."

Only if they are complete idiots.

Currently they seem to have demonstrated they are not very good at their jobs - hopefully that will change very soon.

UTA
"It must be tempting for his bosses to think not much damage will be done if, by Saturday, the squad has not been brought back up to strength." Only if they are complete idiots. Currently they seem to have demonstrated they are not very good at their jobs - hopefully that will change very soon. UTA impose our game gull
  • Score: -1

8:18pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Far gull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Many on here seem to think that we should sign three maybe four players, when surely two would suffice, so lets have a flurry of signings, but keep the number to two. Replace Crofts and sign a DS type as CB.
Unless Oscar has a plan to now go with two strikers I fail to see why we should sign another.
The same would go for wide players, we do have a few on our books, but that said, I can see the attraction of bringing Conway back.
I just don't understand why so many are calling for a bunch of new players when our biggest loss has been that of Crofts. If we were able to get thru half a season with more players out thru injury than you can shake a stick at, and still be just outside the playoffs, why all the fuss over losing El-Abd and Barnes. CMS is retuning so the sale of Barnes is covered. Bruno, Calde, Greer, Upson, Ward, Chicksen and Dunk, four on the field and three for cover, maybe not ideal but you can't say that we are threadbare at the back.

So let's get the flurry over and done with, replace Crofts and sign Conway, if we can, and call it a day. There is always the loan window if something goes drastically wrong in the next few weeks.
Spot on as usual. What ever the pot is ( if indeed there is one even with Bridders and poss buckers money) ,for my mind and yours only real additions Conway and a 'top'Crofts type play . No fudging blow the money on one really quality player.
Who i am not sure as don't know the Budget .
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Many on here seem to think that we should sign three maybe four players, when surely two would suffice, so lets have a flurry of signings, but keep the number to two. Replace Crofts and sign a DS type as CB. Unless Oscar has a plan to now go with two strikers I fail to see why we should sign another. The same would go for wide players, we do have a few on our books, but that said, I can see the attraction of bringing Conway back. I just don't understand why so many are calling for a bunch of new players when our biggest loss has been that of Crofts. If we were able to get thru half a season with more players out thru injury than you can shake a stick at, and still be just outside the playoffs, why all the fuss over losing El-Abd and Barnes. CMS is retuning so the sale of Barnes is covered. Bruno, Calde, Greer, Upson, Ward, Chicksen and Dunk, four on the field and three for cover, maybe not ideal but you can't say that we are threadbare at the back. So let's get the flurry over and done with, replace Crofts and sign Conway, if we can, and call it a day. There is always the loan window if something goes drastically wrong in the next few weeks.[/p][/quote]Spot on as usual. What ever the pot is ( if indeed there is one even with Bridders and poss buckers money) ,for my mind and yours only real additions Conway and a 'top'Crofts type play . No fudging blow the money on one really quality player. Who i am not sure as don't know the Budget . Far gull
  • Score: 1

8:18pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Far gull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Many on here seem to think that we should sign three maybe four players, when surely two would suffice, so lets have a flurry of signings, but keep the number to two. Replace Crofts and sign a DS type as CB.
Unless Oscar has a plan to now go with two strikers I fail to see why we should sign another.
The same would go for wide players, we do have a few on our books, but that said, I can see the attraction of bringing Conway back.
I just don't understand why so many are calling for a bunch of new players when our biggest loss has been that of Crofts. If we were able to get thru half a season with more players out thru injury than you can shake a stick at, and still be just outside the playoffs, why all the fuss over losing El-Abd and Barnes. CMS is retuning so the sale of Barnes is covered. Bruno, Calde, Greer, Upson, Ward, Chicksen and Dunk, four on the field and three for cover, maybe not ideal but you can't say that we are threadbare at the back.

So let's get the flurry over and done with, replace Crofts and sign Conway, if we can, and call it a day. There is always the loan window if something goes drastically wrong in the next few weeks.
Spot on as usual. What ever the pot is ( if indeed there is one even with Bridders and poss buckers money) ,for my mind and yours only real additions Conway and a 'top'Crofts type play . No fudging blow the money on one really quality player.
Who i am not sure as don't know the Budget .
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Many on here seem to think that we should sign three maybe four players, when surely two would suffice, so lets have a flurry of signings, but keep the number to two. Replace Crofts and sign a DS type as CB. Unless Oscar has a plan to now go with two strikers I fail to see why we should sign another. The same would go for wide players, we do have a few on our books, but that said, I can see the attraction of bringing Conway back. I just don't understand why so many are calling for a bunch of new players when our biggest loss has been that of Crofts. If we were able to get thru half a season with more players out thru injury than you can shake a stick at, and still be just outside the playoffs, why all the fuss over losing El-Abd and Barnes. CMS is retuning so the sale of Barnes is covered. Bruno, Calde, Greer, Upson, Ward, Chicksen and Dunk, four on the field and three for cover, maybe not ideal but you can't say that we are threadbare at the back. So let's get the flurry over and done with, replace Crofts and sign Conway, if we can, and call it a day. There is always the loan window if something goes drastically wrong in the next few weeks.[/p][/quote]Spot on as usual. What ever the pot is ( if indeed there is one even with Bridders and poss buckers money) ,for my mind and yours only real additions Conway and a 'top'Crofts type play . No fudging blow the money on one really quality player. Who i am not sure as don't know the Budget . Far gull
  • Score: 0

8:18pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Far gull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Many on here seem to think that we should sign three maybe four players, when surely two would suffice, so lets have a flurry of signings, but keep the number to two. Replace Crofts and sign a DS type as CB.
Unless Oscar has a plan to now go with two strikers I fail to see why we should sign another.
The same would go for wide players, we do have a few on our books, but that said, I can see the attraction of bringing Conway back.
I just don't understand why so many are calling for a bunch of new players when our biggest loss has been that of Crofts. If we were able to get thru half a season with more players out thru injury than you can shake a stick at, and still be just outside the playoffs, why all the fuss over losing El-Abd and Barnes. CMS is retuning so the sale of Barnes is covered. Bruno, Calde, Greer, Upson, Ward, Chicksen and Dunk, four on the field and three for cover, maybe not ideal but you can't say that we are threadbare at the back.

So let's get the flurry over and done with, replace Crofts and sign Conway, if we can, and call it a day. There is always the loan window if something goes drastically wrong in the next few weeks.
Spot on as usual. What ever the pot is ( if indeed there is one even with Bridders and poss buckers money) ,for my mind and yours only real additions Conway and a 'top'Crofts type play . No fudging blow the money on one really quality player.
Who i am not sure as don't know the Budget .
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Many on here seem to think that we should sign three maybe four players, when surely two would suffice, so lets have a flurry of signings, but keep the number to two. Replace Crofts and sign a DS type as CB. Unless Oscar has a plan to now go with two strikers I fail to see why we should sign another. The same would go for wide players, we do have a few on our books, but that said, I can see the attraction of bringing Conway back. I just don't understand why so many are calling for a bunch of new players when our biggest loss has been that of Crofts. If we were able to get thru half a season with more players out thru injury than you can shake a stick at, and still be just outside the playoffs, why all the fuss over losing El-Abd and Barnes. CMS is retuning so the sale of Barnes is covered. Bruno, Calde, Greer, Upson, Ward, Chicksen and Dunk, four on the field and three for cover, maybe not ideal but you can't say that we are threadbare at the back. So let's get the flurry over and done with, replace Crofts and sign Conway, if we can, and call it a day. There is always the loan window if something goes drastically wrong in the next few weeks.[/p][/quote]Spot on as usual. What ever the pot is ( if indeed there is one even with Bridders and poss buckers money) ,for my mind and yours only real additions Conway and a 'top'Crofts type play . No fudging blow the money on one really quality player. Who i am not sure as don't know the Budget . Far gull
  • Score: 0

8:53pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Chi Gull says...

To my mind there is nothing wrong in tenrgetting a player to strengthen the squad; setting a limit to what you think that player is worth, and then letting them go if another club is willing to pay more. We are not desperate to get players so why pay over the odds for someone. If a couple of the big players go, I am sure we already have replacements lined up either now or before the loan window closes. My criticism will start if the squad has been severely weakened and we didn't have replacements lined up. We won't know that for another week or so.
To my mind there is nothing wrong in tenrgetting a player to strengthen the squad; setting a limit to what you think that player is worth, and then letting them go if another club is willing to pay more. We are not desperate to get players so why pay over the odds for someone. If a couple of the big players go, I am sure we already have replacements lined up either now or before the loan window closes. My criticism will start if the squad has been severely weakened and we didn't have replacements lined up. We won't know that for another week or so. Chi Gull
  • Score: 1

8:54pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Chi Gull says...

..or targeting maybe !!
..or targeting maybe !! Chi Gull
  • Score: 1

9:10pm Mon 27 Jan 14

albion64 says...

tonypulis wrote:
lmspike wrote:
seagull176 wrote:
Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..
The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.
I'll think you'll find Mr Naylor is a Stoke fan. When I was manager there he was always hiding in the hedge at the bottom of my garden.
Exactly where you were yesterday, embarrassed by losing to lower league opposition.
[quote][p][bold]tonypulis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lmspike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]seagull176[/bold] wrote: Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..[/p][/quote]The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.[/p][/quote]I'll think you'll find Mr Naylor is a Stoke fan. When I was manager there he was always hiding in the hedge at the bottom of my garden.[/p][/quote]Exactly where you were yesterday, embarrassed by losing to lower league opposition. albion64
  • Score: -1

9:10pm Mon 27 Jan 14

beltclip says...

We need to be mindful of future injuries as well. No one could have predicted needing cover for Crofts. An injury to, say, Upson or dare I say it Ulloa and we're in all sorts of trouble.

But I would agree that Oscar is doing well and his belief in the younger players is paying great dividend.
We need to be mindful of future injuries as well. No one could have predicted needing cover for Crofts. An injury to, say, Upson or dare I say it Ulloa and we're in all sorts of trouble. But I would agree that Oscar is doing well and his belief in the younger players is paying great dividend. beltclip
  • Score: 3

9:14pm Mon 27 Jan 14

albion64 says...

pjwilk wrote:
searich1983 wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
lmspike wrote:
seagull176 wrote:
Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..
The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.
and the reasoning behind your comments about Burke and Barber is?
Burke and Barber just want mediocre players at the lowest prices and wages,they also want to sell at the highest prices without any cover for these players.They also undermine the manager by having all the say on transfers which leaves the manager as a non manager.Get shot of the Blues Bros and lets have a real manager who will not put up with any interference from people who only know about money and nothing about players.
Without a doubt the best comment by far for a while, well said pjwilk!!!!!!
Thanks Searich 1983 it my feeling we need a real Manager.
Idiots
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]searich1983[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lmspike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]seagull176[/bold] wrote: Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..[/p][/quote]The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.[/p][/quote]and the reasoning behind your comments about Burke and Barber is?[/p][/quote]Burke and Barber just want mediocre players at the lowest prices and wages,they also want to sell at the highest prices without any cover for these players.They also undermine the manager by having all the say on transfers which leaves the manager as a non manager.Get shot of the Blues Bros and lets have a real manager who will not put up with any interference from people who only know about money and nothing about players.[/p][/quote]Without a doubt the best comment by far for a while, well said pjwilk!!!!!![/p][/quote]Thanks Searich 1983 it my feeling we need a real Manager.[/p][/quote]Idiots albion64
  • Score: 3

10:03pm Mon 27 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Chi Gull wrote:
To my mind there is nothing wrong in tenrgetting a player to strengthen the squad; setting a limit to what you think that player is worth, and then letting them go if another club is willing to pay more. We are not desperate to get players so why pay over the odds for someone. If a couple of the big players go, I am sure we already have replacements lined up either now or before the loan window closes. My criticism will start if the squad has been severely weakened and we didn't have replacements lined up. We won't know that for another week or so.
Chi Gull, as of right this minute, you wouldn't say that the squad has been weakened severely by losing those that have gone, would you? Not who might go, but who have gone.
[quote][p][bold]Chi Gull[/bold] wrote: To my mind there is nothing wrong in tenrgetting a player to strengthen the squad; setting a limit to what you think that player is worth, and then letting them go if another club is willing to pay more. We are not desperate to get players so why pay over the odds for someone. If a couple of the big players go, I am sure we already have replacements lined up either now or before the loan window closes. My criticism will start if the squad has been severely weakened and we didn't have replacements lined up. We won't know that for another week or so.[/p][/quote]Chi Gull, as of right this minute, you wouldn't say that the squad has been weakened severely by losing those that have gone, would you? Not who might go, but who have gone. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -1

10:57pm Mon 27 Jan 14

tonypulis says...

albion64 wrote:
tonypulis wrote:
lmspike wrote:
seagull176 wrote:
Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..
The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.
I'll think you'll find Mr Naylor is a Stoke fan. When I was manager there he was always hiding in the hedge at the bottom of my garden.
Exactly where you were yesterday, embarrassed by losing to lower league opposition.
Do you fancy a pint Albion 64? I think you'll quite like me if you give me the chance. I'll buy the beers of course, though we'll have to find somewhere where trainers and trackies are 'de rigeur' so it will probably have to be in SE25. Failing that, we could buy a few cans of Special Brew in Sainsburys (I get a club discount) and head off to the park.
[quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tonypulis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lmspike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]seagull176[/bold] wrote: Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..[/p][/quote]The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.[/p][/quote]I'll think you'll find Mr Naylor is a Stoke fan. When I was manager there he was always hiding in the hedge at the bottom of my garden.[/p][/quote]Exactly where you were yesterday, embarrassed by losing to lower league opposition.[/p][/quote]Do you fancy a pint Albion 64? I think you'll quite like me if you give me the chance. I'll buy the beers of course, though we'll have to find somewhere where trainers and trackies are 'de rigeur' so it will probably have to be in SE25. Failing that, we could buy a few cans of Special Brew in Sainsburys (I get a club discount) and head off to the park. tonypulis
  • Score: 3

11:05pm Mon 27 Jan 14

ringtone says...

pjwilk wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
lmspike wrote:
seagull176 wrote:
Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..
The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.
and the reasoning behind your comments about Burke and Barber is?
Burke and Barber just want mediocre players at the lowest prices and wages,they also want to sell at the highest prices without any cover for these players.They also undermine the manager by having all the say on transfers which leaves the manager as a non manager.Get shot of the Blues Bros and lets have a real manager who will not put up with any interference from people who only know about money and nothing about players.
Great post pjwilk, sack the board.

Lets break the nets at next match and demand the return od Sir David Bellotti
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lmspike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]seagull176[/bold] wrote: Why oh why does the Argus always blow things out of context? Next thing on here will be about a bin fire which could have been a hotel fire? Leave the Directors/Managers/ Players alone and report on what we as supporters want to here ? not the rumour mongering or scare tactics that you write? i thought you are suppose to support your local team not keep knocking them down..[/p][/quote]The rag is printed in Southampton and Mr Naylor is a Crys Pal fan. So what do you expect. Although the quicker Mr Bloom gets rid of Barber and Burke the better for our Manager and playing squad.[/p][/quote]and the reasoning behind your comments about Burke and Barber is?[/p][/quote]Burke and Barber just want mediocre players at the lowest prices and wages,they also want to sell at the highest prices without any cover for these players.They also undermine the manager by having all the say on transfers which leaves the manager as a non manager.Get shot of the Blues Bros and lets have a real manager who will not put up with any interference from people who only know about money and nothing about players.[/p][/quote]Great post pjwilk, sack the board. Lets break the nets at next match and demand the return od Sir David Bellotti ringtone
  • Score: 1

2:35am Tue 28 Jan 14

JoeBlow says...

Well I see that Charlton have signed Anil Koc from Standard Liege. I have to say I'm rather relieved that it wasn't us, however good he might be.
Well I see that Charlton have signed Anil Koc from Standard Liege. I have to say I'm rather relieved that it wasn't us, however good he might be. JoeBlow
  • Score: 3

9:07am Tue 28 Jan 14

Camp Nigel says...

JoeBlow wrote:
Well I see that Charlton have signed Anil Koc from Standard Liege. I have to say I'm rather relieved that it wasn't us, however good he might be.
Sounds like quite a catch Joe. The three of us could make quite a team.
[quote][p][bold]JoeBlow[/bold] wrote: Well I see that Charlton have signed Anil Koc from Standard Liege. I have to say I'm rather relieved that it wasn't us, however good he might be.[/p][/quote]Sounds like quite a catch Joe. The three of us could make quite a team. Camp Nigel
  • Score: 4

10:36am Tue 28 Jan 14

Captain Haddock says...

searich1983 wrote:
CumbrianSeagull wrote:
I see Gus has recalled Wickham from his loan, ready to swap with us now??
We cannot pay Williams or Grabban wages and we will be able to pay Wickham's, please don't make me laugh!!!! Or I forgot, GP would let the player come to us for free, lol
We wouldn't be offering as low a deal for Wickham as we would Money Grabban and Williams.
[quote][p][bold]searich1983[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CumbrianSeagull[/bold] wrote: I see Gus has recalled Wickham from his loan, ready to swap with us now??[/p][/quote]We cannot pay Williams or Grabban wages and we will be able to pay Wickham's, please don't make me laugh!!!! Or I forgot, GP would let the player come to us for free, lol[/p][/quote]We wouldn't be offering as low a deal for Wickham as we would Money Grabban and Williams. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

10:44am Tue 28 Jan 14

Captain Haddock says...

Chi Gull wrote:
To my mind there is nothing wrong in tenrgetting a player to strengthen the squad; setting a limit to what you think that player is worth, and then letting them go if another club is willing to pay more. We are not desperate to get players so why pay over the odds for someone. If a couple of the big players go, I am sure we already have replacements lined up either now or before the loan window closes. My criticism will start if the squad has been severely weakened and we didn't have replacements lined up. We won't know that for another week or so.
Spot on as usual, Chi.
[quote][p][bold]Chi Gull[/bold] wrote: To my mind there is nothing wrong in tenrgetting a player to strengthen the squad; setting a limit to what you think that player is worth, and then letting them go if another club is willing to pay more. We are not desperate to get players so why pay over the odds for someone. If a couple of the big players go, I am sure we already have replacements lined up either now or before the loan window closes. My criticism will start if the squad has been severely weakened and we didn't have replacements lined up. We won't know that for another week or so.[/p][/quote]Spot on as usual, Chi. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 0

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