Albion cash in on FA Cup TV coverage

The Argus: Paul Barber. The chief executive has welcomed live TV coverage of Albion's FA Cup tie against Hull at The Amex next month Paul Barber. The chief executive has welcomed live TV coverage of Albion's FA Cup tie against Hull at The Amex next month

Albion have received a timely FA Cup cash boost, 48 hours before the close of the transfer window.

Their fifth round tie against Hull at The Amex has been selected for live TV coverage by BT Sport, earning the Seagulls a £247,500 transmission fee.

The match will now be played on Monday February 17 (7.45pm).

Albion's FA Cup run is proving to be lucrative. They pocketed £67,500 in prize money for the third round win at home to Reading, which attracted a 20,000 crowd paying reduced admission prices.

Last Saturday's fourth round victory at Port Vale was worth a further £90,000 from the prize pot.

That figure would be doubled for beating Hull, together with the prospect of further television coverage in the quarter-finals.

Albion's chief executive Paul Barber said: "We are pleased that the FA and BT Sport has opted to broadcast our match live, it's another bonus from the team's fantastic FA Cup run this season.

"Of course, we understand that some of our fans prefer the traditional 3pm kick-off, but the more successful we are in the cup, the greater interest we can expect from the media, including the TV companies.

"I hope our fans will still turnout in great numbers, and with the Monday night the first day of the half-term holidays, we can still attract a large number of youngsters to the match.

"For some of our younger fans it may be their first opportunity to experience both magic of the FA Cup combined with the special nighttime atmosphere at the Amex."

Meanwhile, Albion's postponed Championship fixture match at Blackburn Rovers has been pencilled in for Tuesday February 25 (7.45pm) as long as the Hull game does not require a replay, which would take place on that date at the Premier League club's KC Stadium.

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5:11pm Wed 29 Jan 14

DuncanThickett says...

That's good news for me personally, not sure about everyone else! It will be good to see who we could potentially get before we play too. And if Sat and Sun produce winners in the other 7 games, we'll be down to the last 9 - which sounds quite good!
That's good news for me personally, not sure about everyone else! It will be good to see who we could potentially get before we play too. And if Sat and Sun produce winners in the other 7 games, we'll be down to the last 9 - which sounds quite good! DuncanThickett

5:20pm Wed 29 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

An excellent result for the club, and us expats. 400k made from the cup run even if we were to lose against Hull, a result I firmly do not expect.
An excellent result for the club, and us expats. 400k made from the cup run even if we were to lose against Hull, a result I firmly do not expect. VegasSeagull

5:20pm Wed 29 Jan 14

JaseBHA says...

Happy about the money for the club, terrible kick-off day and time. And what about Hull's fans? They've just been completely excluded from any chance of getting to the game by anything other than car/coach. Hardly concordant with the club's consistent messaging about using public transport to get to the game.
Happy about the money for the club, terrible kick-off day and time. And what about Hull's fans? They've just been completely excluded from any chance of getting to the game by anything other than car/coach. Hardly concordant with the club's consistent messaging about using public transport to get to the game. JaseBHA

5:25pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Neville says...

Any chance of spending any of that money on a player?
Any chance of spending any of that money on a player? Neville

5:26pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Falmer Wizard says...

Would have turned out for a top club in the cup but Hull are not exactly a team to excite and with our low scoring rate this match does not have a lot going for it,at least the TV cash will be useful
Would have turned out for a top club in the cup but Hull are not exactly a team to excite and with our low scoring rate this match does not have a lot going for it,at least the TV cash will be useful Falmer Wizard

5:28pm Wed 29 Jan 14

ballantrrae says...

Delighted that BHA will receive extra cash as a result of the game being televised. Not sure about the game being on a Monday evening but I guess that's the way it is.
The additional Funds should help Burke and his team recruit players that Oscar wants and I feel he needs to sustain our play-off aspirations.
Mark you with just over 53 hours to go there doesn't seem to be much inward movement yet.
This transfer window has certainly put Burke and Co in the spotlight and it will be interesting to see when the window closes how successful they have been.
No doubt much might depend on what happens to Buckley and Bridcutt. Whilst I hope to see some new signings I trust we don't make acquisitions just for the sake of it. After all the Loan window will reopen around 9/10 February.
If we need to add cover and cannot sign the 'right' experienced player then perhaps we could sign some potentially promising youngster of the same ilk as Ince and Chicksen with the future in mind.
Excellent result last night. Quite an achievement keeping a clean sheet against Burnley on their own turf. Pity their Goalie saved Orlandi's effort towards the end. UTA.
Delighted that BHA will receive extra cash as a result of the game being televised. Not sure about the game being on a Monday evening but I guess that's the way it is. The additional Funds should help Burke and his team recruit players that Oscar wants and I feel he needs to sustain our play-off aspirations. Mark you with just over 53 hours to go there doesn't seem to be much inward movement yet. This transfer window has certainly put Burke and Co in the spotlight and it will be interesting to see when the window closes how successful they have been. No doubt much might depend on what happens to Buckley and Bridcutt. Whilst I hope to see some new signings I trust we don't make acquisitions just for the sake of it. After all the Loan window will reopen around 9/10 February. If we need to add cover and cannot sign the 'right' experienced player then perhaps we could sign some potentially promising youngster of the same ilk as Ince and Chicksen with the future in mind. Excellent result last night. Quite an achievement keeping a clean sheet against Burnley on their own turf. Pity their Goalie saved Orlandi's effort towards the end. UTA. ballantrrae

5:30pm Wed 29 Jan 14

heathgate says...

Thanks for that,... this means I cant go now,.........150 miles each way on a Monday night..... no chance.
Thanks for that,... this means I cant go now,.........150 miles each way on a Monday night..... no chance. heathgate

5:31pm Wed 29 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Falmer Wizard wrote:
Would have turned out for a top club in the cup but Hull are not exactly a team to excite and with our low scoring rate this match does not have a lot going for it,at least the TV cash will be useful
As a Brighton an how can you not get excited about our team playing a prem level team for a place in the last eight of the cup, the fact that they are not Man United shouldn't matter. The last eight of the cup, is that not enough?
[quote][p][bold]Falmer Wizard[/bold] wrote: Would have turned out for a top club in the cup but Hull are not exactly a team to excite and with our low scoring rate this match does not have a lot going for it,at least the TV cash will be useful[/p][/quote]As a Brighton an how can you not get excited about our team playing a prem level team for a place in the last eight of the cup, the fact that they are not Man United shouldn't matter. The last eight of the cup, is that not enough? VegasSeagull

5:34pm Wed 29 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

See we've just had yet another bid rejected.
See we've just had yet another bid rejected. SMF20

5:38pm Wed 29 Jan 14

fansunited says...

Not happy about the tv or eveing kick off, we never seem do well with eveing games or when camera's are here. Watford game springs to mind. Still the money will come in handy...............
Not happy about the tv or eveing kick off, we never seem do well with eveing games or when camera's are here. Watford game springs to mind. Still the money will come in handy............... fansunited

5:43pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Alfie T says...

Apparently interested in Wilbrahem from Palarce. NO NO NO NO NO :-(
Apparently interested in Wilbrahem from Palarce. NO NO NO NO NO :-( Alfie T

5:49pm Wed 29 Jan 14

mikeygit says...

SMF20---where did you get that info from and who was it??
SMF20---where did you get that info from and who was it?? mikeygit

5:52pm Wed 29 Jan 14

pjwilk says...

Barber smiling more money coming in,he is also keeping his hands well and truly in his pockets.
Barber smiling more money coming in,he is also keeping his hands well and truly in his pockets. pjwilk

5:57pm Wed 29 Jan 14

falmer seagull says...

Adam Clayton Huddersfield. Sky Sports!
Adam Clayton Huddersfield. Sky Sports! falmer seagull

6:03pm Wed 29 Jan 14

seegull fly in sky says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Falmer Wizard wrote:
Would have turned out for a top club in the cup but Hull are not exactly a team to excite and with our low scoring rate this match does not have a lot going for it,at least the TV cash will be useful
As a Brighton an how can you not get excited about our team playing a prem level team for a place in the last eight of the cup, the fact that they are not Man United shouldn't matter. The last eight of the cup, is that not enough?
A bahaaaha ib umbagum F C cup a wun e wombley
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Falmer Wizard[/bold] wrote: Would have turned out for a top club in the cup but Hull are not exactly a team to excite and with our low scoring rate this match does not have a lot going for it,at least the TV cash will be useful[/p][/quote]As a Brighton an how can you not get excited about our team playing a prem level team for a place in the last eight of the cup, the fact that they are not Man United shouldn't matter. The last eight of the cup, is that not enough?[/p][/quote]A bahaaaha ib umbagum F C cup a wun e wombley seegull fly in sky

6:04pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Dolph Ins says...

When we get to the prem we are going to have to get used to a lot more footie that is not 3pm on a Saturday so as Burke said 'Let's get prem ready'.
When we get to the prem we are going to have to get used to a lot more footie that is not 3pm on a Saturday so as Burke said 'Let's get prem ready'. Dolph Ins

6:04pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Alfie T says...

mikeygit wrote:
SMF20---where did you get that info from and who was it??
NSC
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: SMF20---where did you get that info from and who was it??[/p][/quote]NSC Alfie T

6:09pm Wed 29 Jan 14

tonypulis says...

Alfie T wrote:
Apparently interested in Wilbrahem from Palarce. NO NO NO NO NO :-(
That's exactly what he said when I told him Mr Bloom had made an approach.
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: Apparently interested in Wilbrahem from Palarce. NO NO NO NO NO :-([/p][/quote]That's exactly what he said when I told him Mr Bloom had made an approach. tonypulis

6:15pm Wed 29 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

Alfie T wrote:
mikeygit wrote:
SMF20---where did you get that info from and who was it??
NSC
Ssn
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: SMF20---where did you get that info from and who was it??[/p][/quote]NSC[/p][/quote]Ssn SMF20

6:18pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Steveg1958 says...

Great ! More money in, to not spend. Turned down yet again, obviously we are not offering anything like enough either in transfer fees , wages or length of contract, Several first team players openly saying the team needs a player or three in the door, already, and that's before Liam and Will probably move.
It's clear that we do not want to spend anything much, and we do not care about getting to the play offs this year, (after all its much better to have a full Championship stadium, than empty seats in the premier league isn't it !!!!).
Our wonderful board are broadly doing a good job, but football clubs are also in the entertainment business and fans need to see progress, it appears at the moment that we are happy to keep where we are .
I wonder what OG thinks now, didn't Mr Bloom say the play offs were the least he expected this year ???
Great ! More money in, to not spend. Turned down yet again, obviously we are not offering anything like enough either in transfer fees , wages or length of contract, Several first team players openly saying the team needs a player or three in the door, already, and that's before Liam and Will probably move. It's clear that we do not want to spend anything much, and we do not care about getting to the play offs this year, (after all its much better to have a full Championship stadium, than empty seats in the premier league isn't it !!!!). Our wonderful board are broadly doing a good job, but football clubs are also in the entertainment business and fans need to see progress, it appears at the moment that we are happy to keep where we are . I wonder what OG thinks now, didn't Mr Bloom say the play offs were the least he expected this year ??? Steveg1958

6:22pm Wed 29 Jan 14

saraman says...

400k from TV and another 500k from the next round after Hull and a tidy sum will be available for summer signings. 5m plus for Bridcutt etc and the warchest for the summer will be impressive.

I believe that we have the squad to make the play-offs this season without further additions. That will do for me.
400k from TV and another 500k from the next round after Hull and a tidy sum will be available for summer signings. 5m plus for Bridcutt etc and the warchest for the summer will be impressive. I believe that we have the squad to make the play-offs this season without further additions. That will do for me. saraman

6:36pm Wed 29 Jan 14

ballantrrae says...

SMF20 wrote:
See we've just had yet another bid rejected.
SMF20 apparently we bid for Huddersfield's midfielder Clayton which implies that the Dale Stephens deal isn't going anywhere either.
Seems to be a worrying trend the Albion are experiencing at present. Turned down by two players (Grabban and Williams), two bids turned down (Middlesborough and Huddersfield) according to Sky. A possible approach for Stephens but 'nothing concrete'. Then there is the question of whether Craig Conway is coming back. The impression I got was that he liked the club and the TV money for the Hull game could help in part towards acquiring him.
I find it difficult to believe we are just being unlucky. It might be that we are just going about things the wrong way or, as I have wondered before, is it that we lack a 'persuader'.
The most immediate problem I see is that if we are seen to keep failing in acquiring targets that it will become increasingly hard for us to actually finalise signings.
In terms of outgoing activity we have seen lots of action. Three players sold and two players (Maksimenko and Goodwin) loaned out. Then on top of that there is the speculation over Buckley and Bridcutt
Lets hope my concerns on the recruiting front prove to be unfounded and that Burke and Co sign some new players in the next 52 hours. No doubt if they fail we can use the Loan window when it reopens
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: See we've just had yet another bid rejected.[/p][/quote]SMF20 apparently we bid for Huddersfield's midfielder Clayton which implies that the Dale Stephens deal isn't going anywhere either. Seems to be a worrying trend the Albion are experiencing at present. Turned down by two players (Grabban and Williams), two bids turned down (Middlesborough and Huddersfield) according to Sky. A possible approach for Stephens but 'nothing concrete'. Then there is the question of whether Craig Conway is coming back. The impression I got was that he liked the club and the TV money for the Hull game could help in part towards acquiring him. I find it difficult to believe we are just being unlucky. It might be that we are just going about things the wrong way or, as I have wondered before, is it that we lack a 'persuader'. The most immediate problem I see is that if we are seen to keep failing in acquiring targets that it will become increasingly hard for us to actually finalise signings. In terms of outgoing activity we have seen lots of action. Three players sold and two players (Maksimenko and Goodwin) loaned out. Then on top of that there is the speculation over Buckley and Bridcutt Lets hope my concerns on the recruiting front prove to be unfounded and that Burke and Co sign some new players in the next 52 hours. No doubt if they fail we can use the Loan window when it reopens ballantrrae

6:44pm Wed 29 Jan 14

bbb1969 says...

Ooking for a good cup run. Starts to get serious now and Hull are there for the taking and then the cup is a nice distraction from a very close league. There is not much in it with the top 11 teams. So we have Forest, Ipswich,Wigan and Blackburn all around us with Leeds and the Boro just out of view but sneaking up the table.

The first 4 teams I mentioned have 4 games that I feel they can win 50% of them with wigan potentially winning 3 however our nex 4 league games will put us in a strong position of playoffs. We have 2 of the teams that are challenging our position abbut our first game is Watford away. We need to get a result at Watford and take our next 3 home games includin Hull.

I think this season may be as exiting as last but with a cup run and seeing some rising stars however nail our gems to a good contract in summer because clubs will be sniffing.
Ooking for a good cup run. Starts to get serious now and Hull are there for the taking and then the cup is a nice distraction from a very close league. There is not much in it with the top 11 teams. So we have Forest, Ipswich,Wigan and Blackburn all around us with Leeds and the Boro just out of view but sneaking up the table. The first 4 teams I mentioned have 4 games that I feel they can win 50% of them with wigan potentially winning 3 however our nex 4 league games will put us in a strong position of playoffs. We have 2 of the teams that are challenging our position abbut our first game is Watford away. We need to get a result at Watford and take our next 3 home games includin Hull. I think this season may be as exiting as last but with a cup run and seeing some rising stars however nail our gems to a good contract in summer because clubs will be sniffing. bbb1969

6:46pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Quiterie says...

Hull have a vital game against Cardiff the Saturday after this cup match. Moving this game to Monday makes it even more likely Bruce will play a weakened team (as he did in the last round). May not make the match much of a spectacle, but I can definitely see Albion progressing to the Quarter Finals.
Hull have a vital game against Cardiff the Saturday after this cup match. Moving this game to Monday makes it even more likely Bruce will play a weakened team (as he did in the last round). May not make the match much of a spectacle, but I can definitely see Albion progressing to the Quarter Finals. Quiterie

6:48pm Wed 29 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

ballantrrae wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
See we've just had yet another bid rejected.
SMF20 apparently we bid for Huddersfield's midfielder Clayton which implies that the Dale Stephens deal isn't going anywhere either.
Seems to be a worrying trend the Albion are experiencing at present. Turned down by two players (Grabban and Williams), two bids turned down (Middlesborough and Huddersfield) according to Sky. A possible approach for Stephens but 'nothing concrete'. Then there is the question of whether Craig Conway is coming back. The impression I got was that he liked the club and the TV money for the Hull game could help in part towards acquiring him.
I find it difficult to believe we are just being unlucky. It might be that we are just going about things the wrong way or, as I have wondered before, is it that we lack a 'persuader'.
The most immediate problem I see is that if we are seen to keep failing in acquiring targets that it will become increasingly hard for us to actually finalise signings.
In terms of outgoing activity we have seen lots of action. Three players sold and two players (Maksimenko and Goodwin) loaned out. Then on top of that there is the speculation over Buckley and Bridcutt
Lets hope my concerns on the recruiting front prove to be unfounded and that Burke and Co sign some new players in the next 52 hours. No doubt if they fail we can use the Loan window when it reopens
It's certainly seems like a difficult period for us.

The bid rejected I mentioned was regarding Clayton but you're right.. It does suggest that the Stephens deal looks doomed too.

Like you I wonder if we lack a persuader... GP did a lot of things in a way that was sometimes questionable... What he did do well though was sell our club to potential recruits... I would imagine that by his very nature, he was a big part of our recruitment process.
That does of course only stack up though for the players that have declined us after a meeting.
The Rejected offers are a different kettle of fish... If we don't offer enough then I guess we shouldn't expect a positive answer.

What's a bit deflating is that all the other clubs around us have strengthened while firmly stating that their best players are not for sale.

On a final note. I'm all for getting players in but let's please make sure they improve us and have potential to make a step up.
I'd rather 1 exceptional player than 2 average ones.

Uta
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: See we've just had yet another bid rejected.[/p][/quote]SMF20 apparently we bid for Huddersfield's midfielder Clayton which implies that the Dale Stephens deal isn't going anywhere either. Seems to be a worrying trend the Albion are experiencing at present. Turned down by two players (Grabban and Williams), two bids turned down (Middlesborough and Huddersfield) according to Sky. A possible approach for Stephens but 'nothing concrete'. Then there is the question of whether Craig Conway is coming back. The impression I got was that he liked the club and the TV money for the Hull game could help in part towards acquiring him. I find it difficult to believe we are just being unlucky. It might be that we are just going about things the wrong way or, as I have wondered before, is it that we lack a 'persuader'. The most immediate problem I see is that if we are seen to keep failing in acquiring targets that it will become increasingly hard for us to actually finalise signings. In terms of outgoing activity we have seen lots of action. Three players sold and two players (Maksimenko and Goodwin) loaned out. Then on top of that there is the speculation over Buckley and Bridcutt Lets hope my concerns on the recruiting front prove to be unfounded and that Burke and Co sign some new players in the next 52 hours. No doubt if they fail we can use the Loan window when it reopens[/p][/quote]It's certainly seems like a difficult period for us. The bid rejected I mentioned was regarding Clayton but you're right.. It does suggest that the Stephens deal looks doomed too. Like you I wonder if we lack a persuader... GP did a lot of things in a way that was sometimes questionable... What he did do well though was sell our club to potential recruits... I would imagine that by his very nature, he was a big part of our recruitment process. That does of course only stack up though for the players that have declined us after a meeting. The Rejected offers are a different kettle of fish... If we don't offer enough then I guess we shouldn't expect a positive answer. What's a bit deflating is that all the other clubs around us have strengthened while firmly stating that their best players are not for sale. On a final note. I'm all for getting players in but let's please make sure they improve us and have potential to make a step up. I'd rather 1 exceptional player than 2 average ones. Uta SMF20

6:49pm Wed 29 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

ballantrrae wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
See we've just had yet another bid rejected.
SMF20 apparently we bid for Huddersfield's midfielder Clayton which implies that the Dale Stephens deal isn't going anywhere either.
Seems to be a worrying trend the Albion are experiencing at present. Turned down by two players (Grabban and Williams), two bids turned down (Middlesborough and Huddersfield) according to Sky. A possible approach for Stephens but 'nothing concrete'. Then there is the question of whether Craig Conway is coming back. The impression I got was that he liked the club and the TV money for the Hull game could help in part towards acquiring him.
I find it difficult to believe we are just being unlucky. It might be that we are just going about things the wrong way or, as I have wondered before, is it that we lack a 'persuader'.
The most immediate problem I see is that if we are seen to keep failing in acquiring targets that it will become increasingly hard for us to actually finalise signings.
In terms of outgoing activity we have seen lots of action. Three players sold and two players (Maksimenko and Goodwin) loaned out. Then on top of that there is the speculation over Buckley and Bridcutt
Lets hope my concerns on the recruiting front prove to be unfounded and that Burke and Co sign some new players in the next 52 hours. No doubt if they fail we can use the Loan window when it reopens
Ballantrae, if we are trying to sign Clayton or Stephens as a replacement for Crofts, would it not make sense to have two players for that position, share the role or cover for each other, depending on which of them is preferred to start matches.
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: See we've just had yet another bid rejected.[/p][/quote]SMF20 apparently we bid for Huddersfield's midfielder Clayton which implies that the Dale Stephens deal isn't going anywhere either. Seems to be a worrying trend the Albion are experiencing at present. Turned down by two players (Grabban and Williams), two bids turned down (Middlesborough and Huddersfield) according to Sky. A possible approach for Stephens but 'nothing concrete'. Then there is the question of whether Craig Conway is coming back. The impression I got was that he liked the club and the TV money for the Hull game could help in part towards acquiring him. I find it difficult to believe we are just being unlucky. It might be that we are just going about things the wrong way or, as I have wondered before, is it that we lack a 'persuader'. The most immediate problem I see is that if we are seen to keep failing in acquiring targets that it will become increasingly hard for us to actually finalise signings. In terms of outgoing activity we have seen lots of action. Three players sold and two players (Maksimenko and Goodwin) loaned out. Then on top of that there is the speculation over Buckley and Bridcutt Lets hope my concerns on the recruiting front prove to be unfounded and that Burke and Co sign some new players in the next 52 hours. No doubt if they fail we can use the Loan window when it reopens[/p][/quote]Ballantrae, if we are trying to sign Clayton or Stephens as a replacement for Crofts, would it not make sense to have two players for that position, share the role or cover for each other, depending on which of them is preferred to start matches. VegasSeagull

6:51pm Wed 29 Jan 14

tug509 says...

Which ever way you look at it ,this is poor ,PSG offered 14m for Cabaye and were told he is worth 20m ,so they paid it ,and got their player . I`m not suggesting we let another team put a ridiculous price on one of our targets ,but perhaps make more realistic offers ,of course i dont know that ,that is the case ,but this is not a one off ,so B&B have got something badly wrong some where imho !. UTA
Which ever way you look at it ,this is poor ,PSG offered 14m for Cabaye and were told he is worth 20m ,so they paid it ,and got their player . I`m not suggesting we let another team put a ridiculous price on one of our targets ,but perhaps make more realistic offers ,of course i dont know that ,that is the case ,but this is not a one off ,so B&B have got something badly wrong some where imho !. UTA tug509

7:06pm Wed 29 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

tug509 wrote:
Which ever way you look at it ,this is poor ,PSG offered 14m for Cabaye and were told he is worth 20m ,so they paid it ,and got their player . I`m not suggesting we let another team put a ridiculous price on one of our targets ,but perhaps make more realistic offers ,of course i dont know that ,that is the case ,but this is not a one off ,so B&B have got something badly wrong some where imho !. UTA
Hi Tug.
It's this window that is the problem Tug, it's the, 'hold to ransom,' window. If a bid of a million for a player would be accepted in the summer window, you can add maybe another 250k in this window, especially if the seller knows of our needs, and who doesn't, or if they think that we have more money, and who doesn't know that we are going to get paid off for Bridcutt, maybe Buckley too.

The suits have got to strike a balance between our needs and how much we will allow ourselves to be ripped off. I would hope that our first bid would be declined, that would suggest that we have given ourselves room to negotiate because no matter what we offered, they will want more. If we offer 600K they will want 750K, if we offer 750K as an opening bid, they will want one million. We know we will have to pay over the odds, it's just a question of how much over.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Which ever way you look at it ,this is poor ,PSG offered 14m for Cabaye and were told he is worth 20m ,so they paid it ,and got their player . I`m not suggesting we let another team put a ridiculous price on one of our targets ,but perhaps make more realistic offers ,of course i dont know that ,that is the case ,but this is not a one off ,so B&B have got something badly wrong some where imho !. UTA[/p][/quote]Hi Tug. It's this window that is the problem Tug, it's the, 'hold to ransom,' window. If a bid of a million for a player would be accepted in the summer window, you can add maybe another 250k in this window, especially if the seller knows of our needs, and who doesn't, or if they think that we have more money, and who doesn't know that we are going to get paid off for Bridcutt, maybe Buckley too. The suits have got to strike a balance between our needs and how much we will allow ourselves to be ripped off. I would hope that our first bid would be declined, that would suggest that we have given ourselves room to negotiate because no matter what we offered, they will want more. If we offer 600K they will want 750K, if we offer 750K as an opening bid, they will want one million. We know we will have to pay over the odds, it's just a question of how much over. VegasSeagull

7:15pm Wed 29 Jan 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

SMF20 wrote:
See we've just had yet another bid rejected.
For whom?
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: See we've just had yet another bid rejected.[/p][/quote]For whom? SeagullOverSelsey

7:21pm Wed 29 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Which ever way you look at it ,this is poor ,PSG offered 14m for Cabaye and were told he is worth 20m ,so they paid it ,and got their player . I`m not suggesting we let another team put a ridiculous price on one of our targets ,but perhaps make more realistic offers ,of course i dont know that ,that is the case ,but this is not a one off ,so B&B have got something badly wrong some where imho !. UTA
Hi Tug.
It's this window that is the problem Tug, it's the, 'hold to ransom,' window. If a bid of a million for a player would be accepted in the summer window, you can add maybe another 250k in this window, especially if the seller knows of our needs, and who doesn't, or if they think that we have more money, and who doesn't know that we are going to get paid off for Bridcutt, maybe Buckley too.

The suits have got to strike a balance between our needs and how much we will allow ourselves to be ripped off. I would hope that our first bid would be declined, that would suggest that we have given ourselves room to negotiate because no matter what we offered, they will want more. If we offer 600K they will want 750K, if we offer 750K as an opening bid, they will want one million. We know we will have to pay over the odds, it's just a question of how much over.
I think there is an alternative Vegas...

I would be extremely understanding and satisfied if the club issued a statement declaring that there was to be no inward activity until the summer due to inflated prices in the January transfer window.
If this was followed by confirmation of our intent to progess and a very heathy budget being available close season then for me at least I'd be content.

I'm not saying I'd settle for mediocrity because I believe we deserve and pay for better by way of our supporting of the club.
I'm just saying that if I'm shown light and it's genuine, that I'd settle for mid table this season.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Which ever way you look at it ,this is poor ,PSG offered 14m for Cabaye and were told he is worth 20m ,so they paid it ,and got their player . I`m not suggesting we let another team put a ridiculous price on one of our targets ,but perhaps make more realistic offers ,of course i dont know that ,that is the case ,but this is not a one off ,so B&B have got something badly wrong some where imho !. UTA[/p][/quote]Hi Tug. It's this window that is the problem Tug, it's the, 'hold to ransom,' window. If a bid of a million for a player would be accepted in the summer window, you can add maybe another 250k in this window, especially if the seller knows of our needs, and who doesn't, or if they think that we have more money, and who doesn't know that we are going to get paid off for Bridcutt, maybe Buckley too. The suits have got to strike a balance between our needs and how much we will allow ourselves to be ripped off. I would hope that our first bid would be declined, that would suggest that we have given ourselves room to negotiate because no matter what we offered, they will want more. If we offer 600K they will want 750K, if we offer 750K as an opening bid, they will want one million. We know we will have to pay over the odds, it's just a question of how much over.[/p][/quote]I think there is an alternative Vegas... I would be extremely understanding and satisfied if the club issued a statement declaring that there was to be no inward activity until the summer due to inflated prices in the January transfer window. If this was followed by confirmation of our intent to progess and a very heathy budget being available close season then for me at least I'd be content. I'm not saying I'd settle for mediocrity because I believe we deserve and pay for better by way of our supporting of the club. I'm just saying that if I'm shown light and it's genuine, that I'd settle for mid table this season. SMF20

7:25pm Wed 29 Jan 14

tug509 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Which ever way you look at it ,this is poor ,PSG offered 14m for Cabaye and were told he is worth 20m ,so they paid it ,and got their player . I`m not suggesting we let another team put a ridiculous price on one of our targets ,but perhaps make more realistic offers ,of course i dont know that ,that is the case ,but this is not a one off ,so B&B have got something badly wrong some where imho !. UTA
Hi Tug.
It's this window that is the problem Tug, it's the, 'hold to ransom,' window. If a bid of a million for a player would be accepted in the summer window, you can add maybe another 250k in this window, especially if the seller knows of our needs, and who doesn't, or if they think that we have more money, and who doesn't know that we are going to get paid off for Bridcutt, maybe Buckley too.

The suits have got to strike a balance between our needs and how much we will allow ourselves to be ripped off. I would hope that our first bid would be declined, that would suggest that we have given ourselves room to negotiate because no matter what we offered, they will want more. If we offer 600K they will want 750K, if we offer 750K as an opening bid, they will want one million. We know we will have to pay over the odds, it's just a question of how much over.
Good morning Vegas .
I know your right ,but like a lot of other supporters on here , with this dam situation ,when for the sake of a couple of new additions we could make the POs ,and more tv money ! personally i am so fed up with our situation hence the apathy . UTA
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Which ever way you look at it ,this is poor ,PSG offered 14m for Cabaye and were told he is worth 20m ,so they paid it ,and got their player . I`m not suggesting we let another team put a ridiculous price on one of our targets ,but perhaps make more realistic offers ,of course i dont know that ,that is the case ,but this is not a one off ,so B&B have got something badly wrong some where imho !. UTA[/p][/quote]Hi Tug. It's this window that is the problem Tug, it's the, 'hold to ransom,' window. If a bid of a million for a player would be accepted in the summer window, you can add maybe another 250k in this window, especially if the seller knows of our needs, and who doesn't, or if they think that we have more money, and who doesn't know that we are going to get paid off for Bridcutt, maybe Buckley too. The suits have got to strike a balance between our needs and how much we will allow ourselves to be ripped off. I would hope that our first bid would be declined, that would suggest that we have given ourselves room to negotiate because no matter what we offered, they will want more. If we offer 600K they will want 750K, if we offer 750K as an opening bid, they will want one million. We know we will have to pay over the odds, it's just a question of how much over.[/p][/quote]Good morning Vegas . I know your right ,but like a lot of other supporters on here , with this dam situation ,when for the sake of a couple of new additions we could make the POs ,and more tv money ! personally i am so fed up with our situation hence the apathy . UTA tug509

7:27pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Chi Gull says...

Another way of looking at our rejected bids or enquiries is that other clubs are more desperate than us. If we keep Biridcutt and Buckley things will not look so bad. If we do sell them, I hope we have a couple of good signings lined up. Obviously we can't go in (publicly) for any big money players until we know if LB or WB are on their way.

For me, the only real weakness at the moment is the lack of a consistent goalscoring threat from midfield. We have good players and cover in other positions. Some of that is because we have midfielders who don't score much, and some of it is down to players losing their goalscoring touch or being injured. As for the cup, its good for the fans and a nice little earner.
Another way of looking at our rejected bids or enquiries is that other clubs are more desperate than us. If we keep Biridcutt and Buckley things will not look so bad. If we do sell them, I hope we have a couple of good signings lined up. Obviously we can't go in (publicly) for any big money players until we know if LB or WB are on their way. For me, the only real weakness at the moment is the lack of a consistent goalscoring threat from midfield. We have good players and cover in other positions. Some of that is because we have midfielders who don't score much, and some of it is down to players losing their goalscoring touch or being injured. As for the cup, its good for the fans and a nice little earner. Chi Gull

7:29pm Wed 29 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

SMF20 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Which ever way you look at it ,this is poor ,PSG offered 14m for Cabaye and were told he is worth 20m ,so they paid it ,and got their player . I`m not suggesting we let another team put a ridiculous price on one of our targets ,but perhaps make more realistic offers ,of course i dont know that ,that is the case ,but this is not a one off ,so B&B have got something badly wrong some where imho !. UTA
Hi Tug.
It's this window that is the problem Tug, it's the, 'hold to ransom,' window. If a bid of a million for a player would be accepted in the summer window, you can add maybe another 250k in this window, especially if the seller knows of our needs, and who doesn't, or if they think that we have more money, and who doesn't know that we are going to get paid off for Bridcutt, maybe Buckley too.

The suits have got to strike a balance between our needs and how much we will allow ourselves to be ripped off. I would hope that our first bid would be declined, that would suggest that we have given ourselves room to negotiate because no matter what we offered, they will want more. If we offer 600K they will want 750K, if we offer 750K as an opening bid, they will want one million. We know we will have to pay over the odds, it's just a question of how much over.
I think there is an alternative Vegas...

I would be extremely understanding and satisfied if the club issued a statement declaring that there was to be no inward activity until the summer due to inflated prices in the January transfer window.
If this was followed by confirmation of our intent to progess and a very heathy budget being available close season then for me at least I'd be content.

I'm not saying I'd settle for mediocrity because I believe we deserve and pay for better by way of our supporting of the club.
I'm just saying that if I'm shown light and it's genuine, that I'd settle for mid table this season.
Well until the window closes we really don't know what might happen re transfers. The other thing we don't know is how well, or otherwise, our current players will end up doing this season. As of today we have only lost Barnes and El-Abd to transfers, CMS replaces Barnes and I think we can get thru re defense. The loss of Crofts is the only real need right now. Bridcutt going means nothing now, and if Buckley goes, a loss yes but not monumental.
I wouldn't write off our existing squad, they just might surprise a lot of people.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Which ever way you look at it ,this is poor ,PSG offered 14m for Cabaye and were told he is worth 20m ,so they paid it ,and got their player . I`m not suggesting we let another team put a ridiculous price on one of our targets ,but perhaps make more realistic offers ,of course i dont know that ,that is the case ,but this is not a one off ,so B&B have got something badly wrong some where imho !. UTA[/p][/quote]Hi Tug. It's this window that is the problem Tug, it's the, 'hold to ransom,' window. If a bid of a million for a player would be accepted in the summer window, you can add maybe another 250k in this window, especially if the seller knows of our needs, and who doesn't, or if they think that we have more money, and who doesn't know that we are going to get paid off for Bridcutt, maybe Buckley too. The suits have got to strike a balance between our needs and how much we will allow ourselves to be ripped off. I would hope that our first bid would be declined, that would suggest that we have given ourselves room to negotiate because no matter what we offered, they will want more. If we offer 600K they will want 750K, if we offer 750K as an opening bid, they will want one million. We know we will have to pay over the odds, it's just a question of how much over.[/p][/quote]I think there is an alternative Vegas... I would be extremely understanding and satisfied if the club issued a statement declaring that there was to be no inward activity until the summer due to inflated prices in the January transfer window. If this was followed by confirmation of our intent to progess and a very heathy budget being available close season then for me at least I'd be content. I'm not saying I'd settle for mediocrity because I believe we deserve and pay for better by way of our supporting of the club. I'm just saying that if I'm shown light and it's genuine, that I'd settle for mid table this season.[/p][/quote]Well until the window closes we really don't know what might happen re transfers. The other thing we don't know is how well, or otherwise, our current players will end up doing this season. As of today we have only lost Barnes and El-Abd to transfers, CMS replaces Barnes and I think we can get thru re defense. The loss of Crofts is the only real need right now. Bridcutt going means nothing now, and if Buckley goes, a loss yes but not monumental. I wouldn't write off our existing squad, they just might surprise a lot of people. VegasSeagull

7:32pm Wed 29 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Which ever way you look at it ,this is poor ,PSG offered 14m for Cabaye and were told he is worth 20m ,so they paid it ,and got their player . I`m not suggesting we let another team put a ridiculous price on one of our targets ,but perhaps make more realistic offers ,of course i dont know that ,that is the case ,but this is not a one off ,so B&B have got something badly wrong some where imho !. UTA
Hi Tug.
It's this window that is the problem Tug, it's the, 'hold to ransom,' window. If a bid of a million for a player would be accepted in the summer window, you can add maybe another 250k in this window, especially if the seller knows of our needs, and who doesn't, or if they think that we have more money, and who doesn't know that we are going to get paid off for Bridcutt, maybe Buckley too.

The suits have got to strike a balance between our needs and how much we will allow ourselves to be ripped off. I would hope that our first bid would be declined, that would suggest that we have given ourselves room to negotiate because no matter what we offered, they will want more. If we offer 600K they will want 750K, if we offer 750K as an opening bid, they will want one million. We know we will have to pay over the odds, it's just a question of how much over.
I think there is an alternative Vegas...

I would be extremely understanding and satisfied if the club issued a statement declaring that there was to be no inward activity until the summer due to inflated prices in the January transfer window.
If this was followed by confirmation of our intent to progess and a very heathy budget being available close season then for me at least I'd be content.

I'm not saying I'd settle for mediocrity because I believe we deserve and pay for better by way of our supporting of the club.
I'm just saying that if I'm shown light and it's genuine, that I'd settle for mid table this season.
Well until the window closes we really don't know what might happen re transfers. The other thing we don't know is how well, or otherwise, our current players will end up doing this season. As of today we have only lost Barnes and El-Abd to transfers, CMS replaces Barnes and I think we can get thru re defense. The loss of Crofts is the only real need right now. Bridcutt going means nothing now, and if Buckley goes, a loss yes but not monumental.
I wouldn't write off our existing squad, they just might surprise a lot of people.
I agree completely with your last line.

Please don't mix up what I'd settle for and what I'm hoping for... They are very different things.
uta
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Which ever way you look at it ,this is poor ,PSG offered 14m for Cabaye and were told he is worth 20m ,so they paid it ,and got their player . I`m not suggesting we let another team put a ridiculous price on one of our targets ,but perhaps make more realistic offers ,of course i dont know that ,that is the case ,but this is not a one off ,so B&B have got something badly wrong some where imho !. UTA[/p][/quote]Hi Tug. It's this window that is the problem Tug, it's the, 'hold to ransom,' window. If a bid of a million for a player would be accepted in the summer window, you can add maybe another 250k in this window, especially if the seller knows of our needs, and who doesn't, or if they think that we have more money, and who doesn't know that we are going to get paid off for Bridcutt, maybe Buckley too. The suits have got to strike a balance between our needs and how much we will allow ourselves to be ripped off. I would hope that our first bid would be declined, that would suggest that we have given ourselves room to negotiate because no matter what we offered, they will want more. If we offer 600K they will want 750K, if we offer 750K as an opening bid, they will want one million. We know we will have to pay over the odds, it's just a question of how much over.[/p][/quote]I think there is an alternative Vegas... I would be extremely understanding and satisfied if the club issued a statement declaring that there was to be no inward activity until the summer due to inflated prices in the January transfer window. If this was followed by confirmation of our intent to progess and a very heathy budget being available close season then for me at least I'd be content. I'm not saying I'd settle for mediocrity because I believe we deserve and pay for better by way of our supporting of the club. I'm just saying that if I'm shown light and it's genuine, that I'd settle for mid table this season.[/p][/quote]Well until the window closes we really don't know what might happen re transfers. The other thing we don't know is how well, or otherwise, our current players will end up doing this season. As of today we have only lost Barnes and El-Abd to transfers, CMS replaces Barnes and I think we can get thru re defense. The loss of Crofts is the only real need right now. Bridcutt going means nothing now, and if Buckley goes, a loss yes but not monumental. I wouldn't write off our existing squad, they just might surprise a lot of people.[/p][/quote]I agree completely with your last line. Please don't mix up what I'd settle for and what I'm hoping for... They are very different things. uta SMF20

7:38pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Here's a theory which you may or may not agree on...
A game of who blinks first on Bridcutt is about to enter the final phase and the overall outcome could be interesting.
Perhaps Sunderland are waiting until late in the day to make a 'take it or leave it' offer, knowing that Albion have an openly unhappy player on their hands. (which is probably the responsibility of LB to maximise)
Throughout all this, we've been nice and understanding to little Liam by accepting he's just being an honest boy, but now GP is putting it about he has other options in order to put further pressure on and force us into a sale or be left holding the baby.
Meanwhile, we're also being nice to other clubs and getting nowhere by tiptoeing through negotiations.
Someone tell me I'm wrong, but I don't think TB has had to deal with losing a true 'star' for big bucks and it's a whole new ball game.
If we're not careful, we could be about to get mugged at both ends of the street.... (just a theory, obviously)
Here's a theory which you may or may not agree on... A game of who blinks first on Bridcutt is about to enter the final phase and the overall outcome could be interesting. Perhaps Sunderland are waiting until late in the day to make a 'take it or leave it' offer, knowing that Albion have an openly unhappy player on their hands. (which is probably the responsibility of LB to maximise) Throughout all this, we've been nice and understanding to little Liam by accepting he's just being an honest boy, but now GP is putting it about he has other options in order to put further pressure on and force us into a sale or be left holding the baby. Meanwhile, we're also being nice to other clubs and getting nowhere by tiptoeing through negotiations. Someone tell me I'm wrong, but I don't think TB has had to deal with losing a true 'star' for big bucks and it's a whole new ball game. If we're not careful, we could be about to get mugged at both ends of the street.... (just a theory, obviously) Albion In Staffs

8:15pm Wed 29 Jan 14

tonypulis says...

Not sure I agree with you there. I suggest that Brighton are in a win win situation based on Bridcutts contract. Hasn't it got a couple of years to run? Either Sunderland pay what Mr Bloom wants, or Bridcutt stays with you lot. In which case Bridcutt has to get himself in the 'right frame of mind' to play in order to keep himself in the shop window. If he throws his toys out of the pram? Well, I've seen how Mr Bloom deals with people like that. I predict a last minute deal - and you'll get your price
Not sure I agree with you there. I suggest that Brighton are in a win win situation based on Bridcutts contract. Hasn't it got a couple of years to run? Either Sunderland pay what Mr Bloom wants, or Bridcutt stays with you lot. In which case Bridcutt has to get himself in the 'right frame of mind' to play in order to keep himself in the shop window. If he throws his toys out of the pram? Well, I've seen how Mr Bloom deals with people like that. I predict a last minute deal - and you'll get your price tonypulis

8:19pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Albion In Staffs says...

tonypulis wrote:
Not sure I agree with you there. I suggest that Brighton are in a win win situation based on Bridcutts contract. Hasn't it got a couple of years to run? Either Sunderland pay what Mr Bloom wants, or Bridcutt stays with you lot. In which case Bridcutt has to get himself in the 'right frame of mind' to play in order to keep himself in the shop window. If he throws his toys out of the pram? Well, I've seen how Mr Bloom deals with people like that. I predict a last minute deal - and you'll get your price
Think its up this summer. Hence my master theory......
[quote][p][bold]tonypulis[/bold] wrote: Not sure I agree with you there. I suggest that Brighton are in a win win situation based on Bridcutts contract. Hasn't it got a couple of years to run? Either Sunderland pay what Mr Bloom wants, or Bridcutt stays with you lot. In which case Bridcutt has to get himself in the 'right frame of mind' to play in order to keep himself in the shop window. If he throws his toys out of the pram? Well, I've seen how Mr Bloom deals with people like that. I predict a last minute deal - and you'll get your price[/p][/quote]Think its up this summer. Hence my master theory...... Albion In Staffs

8:25pm Wed 29 Jan 14

tonypulis says...

In that case then your f**ked. Get rid of him.
In that case then your f**ked. Get rid of him. tonypulis

8:30pm Wed 29 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Here's a theory which you may or may not agree on...
A game of who blinks first on Bridcutt is about to enter the final phase and the overall outcome could be interesting.
Perhaps Sunderland are waiting until late in the day to make a 'take it or leave it' offer, knowing that Albion have an openly unhappy player on their hands. (which is probably the responsibility of LB to maximise)
Throughout all this, we've been nice and understanding to little Liam by accepting he's just being an honest boy, but now GP is putting it about he has other options in order to put further pressure on and force us into a sale or be left holding the baby.
Meanwhile, we're also being nice to other clubs and getting nowhere by tiptoeing through negotiations.
Someone tell me I'm wrong, but I don't think TB has had to deal with losing a true 'star' for big bucks and it's a whole new ball game.
If we're not careful, we could be about to get mugged at both ends of the street.... (just a theory, obviously)
It is quite possible that you are right, Poyet lets this deal go down to the wire figuring that he puts us in a no win situation. The flip side of that is, it's quite possible that Poyet has already been given his own, 'take it or leave it,' moment, this is the price cough up or jog off.
Bridcutt's head will soon become right if this deal does not go thru, for him it's the only game in town as no other prem clubs have come in for him, at least Buckley has two suitors.
I think Brighton have made their position very clear regarding Buckley, 4 million or nothing, and given Bridcutt's high standing within the squad, twice player of the year, I would think that another 4 million price tag could look like quite a bargain.
If Brighton have fixed price for these two, I would also like to see a dead line issued for them too, get a deal on the table by close of play Thursday or forget about both of them. That would give us a day to do business if we so choose to do.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: Here's a theory which you may or may not agree on... A game of who blinks first on Bridcutt is about to enter the final phase and the overall outcome could be interesting. Perhaps Sunderland are waiting until late in the day to make a 'take it or leave it' offer, knowing that Albion have an openly unhappy player on their hands. (which is probably the responsibility of LB to maximise) Throughout all this, we've been nice and understanding to little Liam by accepting he's just being an honest boy, but now GP is putting it about he has other options in order to put further pressure on and force us into a sale or be left holding the baby. Meanwhile, we're also being nice to other clubs and getting nowhere by tiptoeing through negotiations. Someone tell me I'm wrong, but I don't think TB has had to deal with losing a true 'star' for big bucks and it's a whole new ball game. If we're not careful, we could be about to get mugged at both ends of the street.... (just a theory, obviously)[/p][/quote]It is quite possible that you are right, Poyet lets this deal go down to the wire figuring that he puts us in a no win situation. The flip side of that is, it's quite possible that Poyet has already been given his own, 'take it or leave it,' moment, this is the price cough up or jog off. Bridcutt's head will soon become right if this deal does not go thru, for him it's the only game in town as no other prem clubs have come in for him, at least Buckley has two suitors. I think Brighton have made their position very clear regarding Buckley, 4 million or nothing, and given Bridcutt's high standing within the squad, twice player of the year, I would think that another 4 million price tag could look like quite a bargain. If Brighton have fixed price for these two, I would also like to see a dead line issued for them too, get a deal on the table by close of play Thursday or forget about both of them. That would give us a day to do business if we so choose to do. VegasSeagull

8:40pm Wed 29 Jan 14

ringtone says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Here's a theory which you may or may not agree on...
A game of who blinks first on Bridcutt is about to enter the final phase and the overall outcome could be interesting.
Perhaps Sunderland are waiting until late in the day to make a 'take it or leave it' offer, knowing that Albion have an openly unhappy player on their hands. (which is probably the responsibility of LB to maximise)
Throughout all this, we've been nice and understanding to little Liam by accepting he's just being an honest boy, but now GP is putting it about he has other options in order to put further pressure on and force us into a sale or be left holding the baby.
Meanwhile, we're also being nice to other clubs and getting nowhere by tiptoeing through negotiations.
Someone tell me I'm wrong, but I don't think TB has had to deal with losing a true 'star' for big bucks and it's a whole new ball game.
If we're not careful, we could be about to get mugged at both ends of the street.... (just a theory, obviously)
It is quite possible that you are right, Poyet lets this deal go down to the wire figuring that he puts us in a no win situation. The flip side of that is, it's quite possible that Poyet has already been given his own, 'take it or leave it,' moment, this is the price cough up or jog off.
Bridcutt's head will soon become right if this deal does not go thru, for him it's the only game in town as no other prem clubs have come in for him, at least Buckley has two suitors.
I think Brighton have made their position very clear regarding Buckley, 4 million or nothing, and given Bridcutt's high standing within the squad, twice player of the year, I would think that another 4 million price tag could look like quite a bargain.
If Brighton have fixed price for these two, I would also like to see a dead line issued for them too, get a deal on the table by close of play Thursday or forget about both of them. That would give us a day to do business if we so choose to do.
Whats this got to do with the Hull games?

I expect better of you Vegas, getting drawn in to petty squabbles.

Back on subject, Monday night, aka graveyard shift, the magic of the FA cup, do me a favour.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: Here's a theory which you may or may not agree on... A game of who blinks first on Bridcutt is about to enter the final phase and the overall outcome could be interesting. Perhaps Sunderland are waiting until late in the day to make a 'take it or leave it' offer, knowing that Albion have an openly unhappy player on their hands. (which is probably the responsibility of LB to maximise) Throughout all this, we've been nice and understanding to little Liam by accepting he's just being an honest boy, but now GP is putting it about he has other options in order to put further pressure on and force us into a sale or be left holding the baby. Meanwhile, we're also being nice to other clubs and getting nowhere by tiptoeing through negotiations. Someone tell me I'm wrong, but I don't think TB has had to deal with losing a true 'star' for big bucks and it's a whole new ball game. If we're not careful, we could be about to get mugged at both ends of the street.... (just a theory, obviously)[/p][/quote]It is quite possible that you are right, Poyet lets this deal go down to the wire figuring that he puts us in a no win situation. The flip side of that is, it's quite possible that Poyet has already been given his own, 'take it or leave it,' moment, this is the price cough up or jog off. Bridcutt's head will soon become right if this deal does not go thru, for him it's the only game in town as no other prem clubs have come in for him, at least Buckley has two suitors. I think Brighton have made their position very clear regarding Buckley, 4 million or nothing, and given Bridcutt's high standing within the squad, twice player of the year, I would think that another 4 million price tag could look like quite a bargain. If Brighton have fixed price for these two, I would also like to see a dead line issued for them too, get a deal on the table by close of play Thursday or forget about both of them. That would give us a day to do business if we so choose to do.[/p][/quote]Whats this got to do with the Hull games? I expect better of you Vegas, getting drawn in to petty squabbles. Back on subject, Monday night, aka graveyard shift, the magic of the FA cup, do me a favour. ringtone

8:42pm Wed 29 Jan 14

ringtone says...

DuncanThickett wrote:
That's good news for me personally, not sure about everyone else! It will be good to see who we could potentially get before we play too. And if Sat and Sun produce winners in the other 7 games, we'll be down to the last 9 - which sounds quite good!
Last 9? Maybe we will get the bye.
[quote][p][bold]DuncanThickett[/bold] wrote: That's good news for me personally, not sure about everyone else! It will be good to see who we could potentially get before we play too. And if Sat and Sun produce winners in the other 7 games, we'll be down to the last 9 - which sounds quite good![/p][/quote]Last 9? Maybe we will get the bye. ringtone

8:54pm Wed 29 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Ringtone I have already said what I have to say about the Hull game, what more do you want from me, I have given my all on this matter but just to please you........

I think Hull will field a very strong side, possibly close to their full strength.
We have fielded a few of the young lads in our previous cup matches and whilst that has worked well for us, I would expect Oscar to beef up the starting eleven for this match.
I fancy a result on the night, one way or the other by a single goal, 1-0, 2-1.
If CMS is match fit, and he could be, almost, then I think Oscar might start with both CMS and Ulloa.

There you have it, I trust you approve.
Ringtone I have already said what I have to say about the Hull game, what more do you want from me, I have given my all on this matter but just to please you........ I think Hull will field a very strong side, possibly close to their full strength. We have fielded a few of the young lads in our previous cup matches and whilst that has worked well for us, I would expect Oscar to beef up the starting eleven for this match. I fancy a result on the night, one way or the other by a single goal, 1-0, 2-1. If CMS is match fit, and he could be, almost, then I think Oscar might start with both CMS and Ulloa. There you have it, I trust you approve. VegasSeagull

9:02pm Wed 29 Jan 14

ringtone says...

SMF20 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Which ever way you look at it ,this is poor ,PSG offered 14m for Cabaye and were told he is worth 20m ,so they paid it ,and got their player . I`m not suggesting we let another team put a ridiculous price on one of our targets ,but perhaps make more realistic offers ,of course i dont know that ,that is the case ,but this is not a one off ,so B&B have got something badly wrong some where imho !. UTA
Hi Tug.
It's this window that is the problem Tug, it's the, 'hold to ransom,' window. If a bid of a million for a player would be accepted in the summer window, you can add maybe another 250k in this window, especially if the seller knows of our needs, and who doesn't, or if they think that we have more money, and who doesn't know that we are going to get paid off for Bridcutt, maybe Buckley too.

The suits have got to strike a balance between our needs and how much we will allow ourselves to be ripped off. I would hope that our first bid would be declined, that would suggest that we have given ourselves room to negotiate because no matter what we offered, they will want more. If we offer 600K they will want 750K, if we offer 750K as an opening bid, they will want one million. We know we will have to pay over the odds, it's just a question of how much over.
I think there is an alternative Vegas...

I would be extremely understanding and satisfied if the club issued a statement declaring that there was to be no inward activity until the summer due to inflated prices in the January transfer window.
If this was followed by confirmation of our intent to progess and a very heathy budget being available close season then for me at least I'd be content.

I'm not saying I'd settle for mediocrity because I believe we deserve and pay for better by way of our supporting of the club.
I'm just saying that if I'm shown light and it's genuine, that I'd settle for mid table this season.
The only inward activity at tthe club is likely to be mr burkes nervous sphincter muscle,

and yes i ought to know.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Which ever way you look at it ,this is poor ,PSG offered 14m for Cabaye and were told he is worth 20m ,so they paid it ,and got their player . I`m not suggesting we let another team put a ridiculous price on one of our targets ,but perhaps make more realistic offers ,of course i dont know that ,that is the case ,but this is not a one off ,so B&B have got something badly wrong some where imho !. UTA[/p][/quote]Hi Tug. It's this window that is the problem Tug, it's the, 'hold to ransom,' window. If a bid of a million for a player would be accepted in the summer window, you can add maybe another 250k in this window, especially if the seller knows of our needs, and who doesn't, or if they think that we have more money, and who doesn't know that we are going to get paid off for Bridcutt, maybe Buckley too. The suits have got to strike a balance between our needs and how much we will allow ourselves to be ripped off. I would hope that our first bid would be declined, that would suggest that we have given ourselves room to negotiate because no matter what we offered, they will want more. If we offer 600K they will want 750K, if we offer 750K as an opening bid, they will want one million. We know we will have to pay over the odds, it's just a question of how much over.[/p][/quote]I think there is an alternative Vegas... I would be extremely understanding and satisfied if the club issued a statement declaring that there was to be no inward activity until the summer due to inflated prices in the January transfer window. If this was followed by confirmation of our intent to progess and a very heathy budget being available close season then for me at least I'd be content. I'm not saying I'd settle for mediocrity because I believe we deserve and pay for better by way of our supporting of the club. I'm just saying that if I'm shown light and it's genuine, that I'd settle for mid table this season.[/p][/quote]The only inward activity at tthe club is likely to be mr burkes nervous sphincter muscle, and yes i ought to know. ringtone

9:21pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Far gull says...

Just seen we have had a bid for adam clayto rejected on sky . Not that i am a great knowledge on him but in match day terms whooooooo ? But think its time for Burke to stop using scater gun approach and save himself and us any more embarassment say thats it sell liam and buckley, oh and tk anf matt u along with leo and kaz , ince too . Then we can aim for non league in a five year plan . Watch attendances drop like a stone . We all know they are lower this season as true attendances never produced. They always include paid season ticket holders there or not. Under Burke will be a one man and dog and a few stewards and himself but still proclaiming 27,000 . Joking i know many on here have no humour, but what happened to our foreign connections? This whole window has been a farce now. ENOUGH.
Tell Liam and Will time is up pick up baton for us or rot in reserves. Sunderland /Gus have done enough damage. Tony send Burke and Barber to Sunderland to work for them . Soon have them coughing and spluttering .
Just seen we have had a bid for adam clayto rejected on sky . Not that i am a great knowledge on him but in match day terms whooooooo ? But think its time for Burke to stop using scater gun approach and save himself and us any more embarassment say thats it sell liam and buckley, oh and tk anf matt u along with leo and kaz , ince too . Then we can aim for non league in a five year plan . Watch attendances drop like a stone . We all know they are lower this season as true attendances never produced. They always include paid season ticket holders there or not. Under Burke will be a one man and dog and a few stewards and himself but still proclaiming 27,000 . Joking i know many on here have no humour, but what happened to our foreign connections? This whole window has been a farce now. ENOUGH. Tell Liam and Will time is up pick up baton for us or rot in reserves. Sunderland /Gus have done enough damage. Tony send Burke and Barber to Sunderland to work for them . Soon have them coughing and spluttering . Far gull

9:41pm Wed 29 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Do any of you honestly believe that Burke is not acting in the best interest of the club, and note I said, 'club,' and not the fans.
Burke could get players to sign tomorrow if he didn't put the club first and the fans desires second.
Burke can not, and must not, bring players in at prices that do not fit with our budget, and all the time we have Bridcutt still on the books, our buying power will be restricted.
I don't think that you could pay me enough to do Burkes job, the guy can't win no matter what he does. If he spends big people will say he is taking us down the Portsmouth road. If he dips into the lower division looking for value, people will say that the club lacks ambition. If he tries to buy from our division some say that we should look for fringe prem players. He tries for a young player and people say that he should by, 'proven,' players. If he follows the FFP rules he gets it in the neck because other clubs appear not to be.

Tell me, just what is it he can do in the transfer market that will at least please the majority of fans?
Do any of you honestly believe that Burke is not acting in the best interest of the club, and note I said, 'club,' and not the fans. Burke could get players to sign tomorrow if he didn't put the club first and the fans desires second. Burke can not, and must not, bring players in at prices that do not fit with our budget, and all the time we have Bridcutt still on the books, our buying power will be restricted. I don't think that you could pay me enough to do Burkes job, the guy can't win no matter what he does. If he spends big people will say he is taking us down the Portsmouth road. If he dips into the lower division looking for value, people will say that the club lacks ambition. If he tries to buy from our division some say that we should look for fringe prem players. He tries for a young player and people say that he should by, 'proven,' players. If he follows the FFP rules he gets it in the neck because other clubs appear not to be. Tell me, just what is it he can do in the transfer market that will at least please the majority of fans? VegasSeagull

9:48pm Wed 29 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

I really would like to see that FA cup money go to good use and for me and imho only I'd like to see it go towards a new 2 year deal for Kuz and a new 2 year deal for Upson.
2 years for Upson may seem quite a long time for some by my thinking is that in the 2nd year he will be a player/coach... I believe that he has another season in him as a 1st choice central defender and I have no doubt he would be a fine addition to the coaching staff and very able deputy to 1st choice boys too.

Just a thought... I'd like to see these 2 with the club very long term... Top professionals, top attitude and experience from the very top.

Uta
I really would like to see that FA cup money go to good use and for me and imho only I'd like to see it go towards a new 2 year deal for Kuz and a new 2 year deal for Upson. 2 years for Upson may seem quite a long time for some by my thinking is that in the 2nd year he will be a player/coach... I believe that he has another season in him as a 1st choice central defender and I have no doubt he would be a fine addition to the coaching staff and very able deputy to 1st choice boys too. Just a thought... I'd like to see these 2 with the club very long term... Top professionals, top attitude and experience from the very top. Uta SMF20

9:56pm Wed 29 Jan 14

OldGull says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
tonypulis wrote:
Not sure I agree with you there. I suggest that Brighton are in a win win situation based on Bridcutts contract. Hasn't it got a couple of years to run? Either Sunderland pay what Mr Bloom wants, or Bridcutt stays with you lot. In which case Bridcutt has to get himself in the 'right frame of mind' to play in order to keep himself in the shop window. If he throws his toys out of the pram? Well, I've seen how Mr Bloom deals with people like that. I predict a last minute deal - and you'll get your price
Think its up this summer. Hence my master theory......
his contract runs to 2015.
So I agree with TP
If GP does not pay the going rate, Liam will knuckle down, play to his ability and then we can maximise the price in the summer.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tonypulis[/bold] wrote: Not sure I agree with you there. I suggest that Brighton are in a win win situation based on Bridcutts contract. Hasn't it got a couple of years to run? Either Sunderland pay what Mr Bloom wants, or Bridcutt stays with you lot. In which case Bridcutt has to get himself in the 'right frame of mind' to play in order to keep himself in the shop window. If he throws his toys out of the pram? Well, I've seen how Mr Bloom deals with people like that. I predict a last minute deal - and you'll get your price[/p][/quote]Think its up this summer. Hence my master theory......[/p][/quote]his contract runs to 2015. So I agree with TP If GP does not pay the going rate, Liam will knuckle down, play to his ability and then we can maximise the price in the summer. OldGull

9:59pm Wed 29 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Do any of you honestly believe that Burke is not acting in the best interest of the club, and note I said, 'club,' and not the fans.
Burke could get players to sign tomorrow if he didn't put the club first and the fans desires second.
Burke can not, and must not, bring players in at prices that do not fit with our budget, and all the time we have Bridcutt still on the books, our buying power will be restricted.
I don't think that you could pay me enough to do Burkes job, the guy can't win no matter what he does. If he spends big people will say he is taking us down the Portsmouth road. If he dips into the lower division looking for value, people will say that the club lacks ambition. If he tries to buy from our division some say that we should look for fringe prem players. He tries for a young player and people say that he should by, 'proven,' players. If he follows the FFP rules he gets it in the neck because other clubs appear not to be.

Tell me, just what is it he can do in the transfer market that will at least please the majority of fans?
I've absolutely no doubt at all that Mr Burke is giving his all to our fabulous club.
I'm sure his heart is in the right place and every day he shows for work ready to put in another shift and 100% effort.

The question that has only crossed my mind recently is, will Mr Burkes 100% effort ability and contacts get the job jone? I don't know the answer....

He got the opportunity to speak with both Grabban and the MK Dons boy and he didn't get the job done.

I like the guy and want him to do well, I'm just not sure he is up to the task.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Do any of you honestly believe that Burke is not acting in the best interest of the club, and note I said, 'club,' and not the fans. Burke could get players to sign tomorrow if he didn't put the club first and the fans desires second. Burke can not, and must not, bring players in at prices that do not fit with our budget, and all the time we have Bridcutt still on the books, our buying power will be restricted. I don't think that you could pay me enough to do Burkes job, the guy can't win no matter what he does. If he spends big people will say he is taking us down the Portsmouth road. If he dips into the lower division looking for value, people will say that the club lacks ambition. If he tries to buy from our division some say that we should look for fringe prem players. He tries for a young player and people say that he should by, 'proven,' players. If he follows the FFP rules he gets it in the neck because other clubs appear not to be. Tell me, just what is it he can do in the transfer market that will at least please the majority of fans?[/p][/quote]I've absolutely no doubt at all that Mr Burke is giving his all to our fabulous club. I'm sure his heart is in the right place and every day he shows for work ready to put in another shift and 100% effort. The question that has only crossed my mind recently is, will Mr Burkes 100% effort ability and contacts get the job jone? I don't know the answer.... He got the opportunity to speak with both Grabban and the MK Dons boy and he didn't get the job done. I like the guy and want him to do well, I'm just not sure he is up to the task. SMF20

10:16pm Wed 29 Jan 14

mikeygit says...

Very strange January window this one?? A week or two ago it was reported that Sunderland were not going to have money available for Gus to spend in this window--and how many players have been signed?? Now we are talking about waiting until the last moment for Gus to play his hand--so is he going to have 3--5m to pay for Liam and Buckley?? the plot thickens and by Saturday morning we should have all the answers. All said and done we seem to be doing OK without the services of Liam and Buckers--who do not seem to want to play--I have my suspicions about Buckley being injured-- so we will not see a great loss if they do both go---our young lads seem to be coming up to the mark with their current performances.
Very strange January window this one?? A week or two ago it was reported that Sunderland were not going to have money available for Gus to spend in this window--and how many players have been signed?? Now we are talking about waiting until the last moment for Gus to play his hand--so is he going to have 3--5m to pay for Liam and Buckley?? the plot thickens and by Saturday morning we should have all the answers. All said and done we seem to be doing OK without the services of Liam and Buckers--who do not seem to want to play--I have my suspicions about Buckley being injured-- so we will not see a great loss if they do both go---our young lads seem to be coming up to the mark with their current performances. mikeygit

10:18pm Wed 29 Jan 14

OldGull says...

Monday evening kick off...RESULT
I am working the weekend, but monday is my day off.
So will not miss our march to the QF.
Monday evening kick off...RESULT I am working the weekend, but monday is my day off. So will not miss our march to the QF. OldGull

10:28pm Wed 29 Jan 14

OldGull says...

tonypulis wrote:
Not sure I agree with you there. I suggest that Brighton are in a win win situation based on Bridcutts contract. Hasn't it got a couple of years to run? Either Sunderland pay what Mr Bloom wants, or Bridcutt stays with you lot. In which case Bridcutt has to get himself in the 'right frame of mind' to play in order to keep himself in the shop window. If he throws his toys out of the pram? Well, I've seen how Mr Bloom deals with people like that. I predict a last minute deal - and you'll get your price
Tony old mate
I don't like the team you manage.
I do not particularly like your style of football ( but fair play to you for keeping Stoke up for so many years)(Hughes is rapidly repeating what he did for QPR).
But I do like many of your comments both serious and humorous.
Keep it up, There are too many miserable buggers on here.
UTA
DWP
[quote][p][bold]tonypulis[/bold] wrote: Not sure I agree with you there. I suggest that Brighton are in a win win situation based on Bridcutts contract. Hasn't it got a couple of years to run? Either Sunderland pay what Mr Bloom wants, or Bridcutt stays with you lot. In which case Bridcutt has to get himself in the 'right frame of mind' to play in order to keep himself in the shop window. If he throws his toys out of the pram? Well, I've seen how Mr Bloom deals with people like that. I predict a last minute deal - and you'll get your price[/p][/quote]Tony old mate I don't like the team you manage. I do not particularly like your style of football ( but fair play to you for keeping Stoke up for so many years)(Hughes is rapidly repeating what he did for QPR). But I do like many of your comments both serious and humorous. Keep it up, There are too many miserable buggers on here. UTA DWP OldGull

12:15am Thu 30 Jan 14

Vince says...

ringtone wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote: Here's a theory which you may or may not agree on... A game of who blinks first on Bridcutt is about to enter the final phase and the overall outcome could be interesting. Perhaps Sunderland are waiting until late in the day to make a 'take it or leave it' offer, knowing that Albion have an openly unhappy player on their hands. (which is probably the responsibility of LB to maximise) Throughout all this, we've been nice and understanding to little Liam by accepting he's just being an honest boy, but now GP is putting it about he has other options in order to put further pressure on and force us into a sale or be left holding the baby. Meanwhile, we're also being nice to other clubs and getting nowhere by tiptoeing through negotiations. Someone tell me I'm wrong, but I don't think TB has had to deal with losing a true 'star' for big bucks and it's a whole new ball game. If we're not careful, we could be about to get mugged at both ends of the street.... (just a theory, obviously)
It is quite possible that you are right, Poyet lets this deal go down to the wire figuring that he puts us in a no win situation. The flip side of that is, it's quite possible that Poyet has already been given his own, 'take it or leave it,' moment, this is the price cough up or jog off. Bridcutt's head will soon become right if this deal does not go thru, for him it's the only game in town as no other prem clubs have come in for him, at least Buckley has two suitors. I think Brighton have made their position very clear regarding Buckley, 4 million or nothing, and given Bridcutt's high standing within the squad, twice player of the year, I would think that another 4 million price tag could look like quite a bargain. If Brighton have fixed price for these two, I would also like to see a dead line issued for them too, get a deal on the table by close of play Thursday or forget about both of them. That would give us a day to do business if we so choose to do.
Whats this got to do with the Hull games? I expect better of you Vegas, getting drawn in to petty squabbles. Back on subject, Monday night, aka graveyard shift, the magic of the FA cup, do me a favour.
£4m for Buckley?

It appears we are willing to sell him for a paltry £1.5m if the BBC Sports website report is correct!

"Crystal Palace seek to sign Will Buckley, Ivan Ramis and Scott Dann"

"A more likely arrival is Buckley, of Brighton and Hove Albion, who is available at around £1.5m, while Palace are competing with Norwich City for Rovers' Dann. No fee has, as yet, been agreed by either club for the former Birmingham City defender."

NO NO NO NO AND NO AGAIN!
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: Here's a theory which you may or may not agree on... A game of who blinks first on Bridcutt is about to enter the final phase and the overall outcome could be interesting. Perhaps Sunderland are waiting until late in the day to make a 'take it or leave it' offer, knowing that Albion have an openly unhappy player on their hands. (which is probably the responsibility of LB to maximise) Throughout all this, we've been nice and understanding to little Liam by accepting he's just being an honest boy, but now GP is putting it about he has other options in order to put further pressure on and force us into a sale or be left holding the baby. Meanwhile, we're also being nice to other clubs and getting nowhere by tiptoeing through negotiations. Someone tell me I'm wrong, but I don't think TB has had to deal with losing a true 'star' for big bucks and it's a whole new ball game. If we're not careful, we could be about to get mugged at both ends of the street.... (just a theory, obviously)[/p][/quote]It is quite possible that you are right, Poyet lets this deal go down to the wire figuring that he puts us in a no win situation. The flip side of that is, it's quite possible that Poyet has already been given his own, 'take it or leave it,' moment, this is the price cough up or jog off. Bridcutt's head will soon become right if this deal does not go thru, for him it's the only game in town as no other prem clubs have come in for him, at least Buckley has two suitors. I think Brighton have made their position very clear regarding Buckley, 4 million or nothing, and given Bridcutt's high standing within the squad, twice player of the year, I would think that another 4 million price tag could look like quite a bargain. If Brighton have fixed price for these two, I would also like to see a dead line issued for them too, get a deal on the table by close of play Thursday or forget about both of them. That would give us a day to do business if we so choose to do.[/p][/quote]Whats this got to do with the Hull games? I expect better of you Vegas, getting drawn in to petty squabbles. Back on subject, Monday night, aka graveyard shift, the magic of the FA cup, do me a favour.[/p][/quote]£4m for Buckley? It appears we are willing to sell him for a paltry £1.5m if the BBC Sports website report is correct! "Crystal Palace seek to sign Will Buckley, Ivan Ramis and Scott Dann" "A more likely arrival is Buckley, of Brighton and Hove Albion, who is available at around £1.5m, while Palace are competing with Norwich City for Rovers' Dann. No fee has, as yet, been agreed by either club for the former Birmingham City defender." NO NO NO NO AND NO AGAIN! Vince

12:23am Thu 30 Jan 14

tonypulis says...

OldGull wrote:
tonypulis wrote:
Not sure I agree with you there. I suggest that Brighton are in a win win situation based on Bridcutts contract. Hasn't it got a couple of years to run? Either Sunderland pay what Mr Bloom wants, or Bridcutt stays with you lot. In which case Bridcutt has to get himself in the 'right frame of mind' to play in order to keep himself in the shop window. If he throws his toys out of the pram? Well, I've seen how Mr Bloom deals with people like that. I predict a last minute deal - and you'll get your price
Tony old mate
I don't like the team you manage.
I do not particularly like your style of football ( but fair play to you for keeping Stoke up for so many years)(Hughes is rapidly repeating what he did for QPR).
But I do like many of your comments both serious and humorous.
Keep it up, There are too many miserable buggers on here.
UTA
DWP
I don't like my style of football either to be honest, but it pays the bills and keeps me in Welsh Cakes. To be fair, I can only work with what I am given and as my mother used to say 'you can't polish a turd can you?'
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tonypulis[/bold] wrote: Not sure I agree with you there. I suggest that Brighton are in a win win situation based on Bridcutts contract. Hasn't it got a couple of years to run? Either Sunderland pay what Mr Bloom wants, or Bridcutt stays with you lot. In which case Bridcutt has to get himself in the 'right frame of mind' to play in order to keep himself in the shop window. If he throws his toys out of the pram? Well, I've seen how Mr Bloom deals with people like that. I predict a last minute deal - and you'll get your price[/p][/quote]Tony old mate I don't like the team you manage. I do not particularly like your style of football ( but fair play to you for keeping Stoke up for so many years)(Hughes is rapidly repeating what he did for QPR). But I do like many of your comments both serious and humorous. Keep it up, There are too many miserable buggers on here. UTA DWP[/p][/quote]I don't like my style of football either to be honest, but it pays the bills and keeps me in Welsh Cakes. To be fair, I can only work with what I am given and as my mother used to say 'you can't polish a turd can you?' tonypulis

12:55am Thu 30 Jan 14

Hovite says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Do any of you honestly believe that Burke is not acting in the best interest of the club, and note I said, 'club,' and not the fans.
Burke could get players to sign tomorrow if he didn't put the club first and the fans desires second.
Burke can not, and must not, bring players in at prices that do not fit with our budget, and all the time we have Bridcutt still on the books, our buying power will be restricted.
I don't think that you could pay me enough to do Burkes job, the guy can't win no matter what he does. If he spends big people will say he is taking us down the Portsmouth road. If he dips into the lower division looking for value, people will say that the club lacks ambition. If he tries to buy from our division some say that we should look for fringe prem players. He tries for a young player and people say that he should by, 'proven,' players. If he follows the FFP rules he gets it in the neck because other clubs appear not to be.

Tell me, just what is it he can do in the transfer market that will at least please the majority of fans?
Sign Suarez?
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Do any of you honestly believe that Burke is not acting in the best interest of the club, and note I said, 'club,' and not the fans. Burke could get players to sign tomorrow if he didn't put the club first and the fans desires second. Burke can not, and must not, bring players in at prices that do not fit with our budget, and all the time we have Bridcutt still on the books, our buying power will be restricted. I don't think that you could pay me enough to do Burkes job, the guy can't win no matter what he does. If he spends big people will say he is taking us down the Portsmouth road. If he dips into the lower division looking for value, people will say that the club lacks ambition. If he tries to buy from our division some say that we should look for fringe prem players. He tries for a young player and people say that he should by, 'proven,' players. If he follows the FFP rules he gets it in the neck because other clubs appear not to be. Tell me, just what is it he can do in the transfer market that will at least please the majority of fans?[/p][/quote]Sign Suarez? Hovite

1:07am Thu 30 Jan 14

Mancgulled says...

Good! More money for Liams part-X for Beccio - didn't play against Newcastle either! I see that Sunderland are after Tom Ince - so don't know where they are going to get all the dough to afford Bridders & Bucka as well!! Maybe Gus has changed his mind?
Good! More money for Liams part-X for Beccio - didn't play against Newcastle either! I see that Sunderland are after Tom Ince - so don't know where they are going to get all the dough to afford Bridders & Bucka as well!! Maybe Gus has changed his mind? Mancgulled

7:25am Thu 30 Jan 14

Far gull says...

SMF20 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Do any of you honestly believe that Burke is not acting in the best interest of the club, and note I said, 'club,' and not the fans.
Burke could get players to sign tomorrow if he didn't put the club first and the fans desires second.
Burke can not, and must not, bring players in at prices that do not fit with our budget, and all the time we have Bridcutt still on the books, our buying power will be restricted.
I don't think that you could pay me enough to do Burkes job, the guy can't win no matter what he does. If he spends big people will say he is taking us down the Portsmouth road. If he dips into the lower division looking for value, people will say that the club lacks ambition. If he tries to buy from our division some say that we should look for fringe prem players. He tries for a young player and people say that he should by, 'proven,' players. If he follows the FFP rules he gets it in the neck because other clubs appear not to be.

Tell me, just what is it he can do in the transfer market that will at least please the majority of fans?
I've absolutely no doubt at all that Mr Burke is giving his all to our fabulous club.
I'm sure his heart is in the right place and every day he shows for work ready to put in another shift and 100% effort.

The question that has only crossed my mind recently is, will Mr Burkes 100% effort ability and contacts get the job jone? I don't know the answer....

He got the opportunity to speak with both Grabban and the MK Dons boy and he didn't get the job done.

I like the guy and want him to do well, I'm just not sure he is up to the task.
This SMF is what i was trying to say abd got slapped for saying but perhaps i put it in a 'frustrated fan 'manner nkt to everyone esles liking. Am passionate about albion but feel we are fast losing that all important momentum.
Tony will realise this i am sure.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Do any of you honestly believe that Burke is not acting in the best interest of the club, and note I said, 'club,' and not the fans. Burke could get players to sign tomorrow if he didn't put the club first and the fans desires second. Burke can not, and must not, bring players in at prices that do not fit with our budget, and all the time we have Bridcutt still on the books, our buying power will be restricted. I don't think that you could pay me enough to do Burkes job, the guy can't win no matter what he does. If he spends big people will say he is taking us down the Portsmouth road. If he dips into the lower division looking for value, people will say that the club lacks ambition. If he tries to buy from our division some say that we should look for fringe prem players. He tries for a young player and people say that he should by, 'proven,' players. If he follows the FFP rules he gets it in the neck because other clubs appear not to be. Tell me, just what is it he can do in the transfer market that will at least please the majority of fans?[/p][/quote]I've absolutely no doubt at all that Mr Burke is giving his all to our fabulous club. I'm sure his heart is in the right place and every day he shows for work ready to put in another shift and 100% effort. The question that has only crossed my mind recently is, will Mr Burkes 100% effort ability and contacts get the job jone? I don't know the answer.... He got the opportunity to speak with both Grabban and the MK Dons boy and he didn't get the job done. I like the guy and want him to do well, I'm just not sure he is up to the task.[/p][/quote]This SMF is what i was trying to say abd got slapped for saying but perhaps i put it in a 'frustrated fan 'manner nkt to everyone esles liking. Am passionate about albion but feel we are fast losing that all important momentum. Tony will realise this i am sure. Far gull

12:20pm Thu 30 Jan 14

tinker111 says...

Neville wrote:
Any chance of spending any of that money on a player?
Not with barbers grubby mits on it
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Any chance of spending any of that money on a player?[/p][/quote]Not with barbers grubby mits on it tinker111

6:28pm Thu 30 Jan 14

OldGull says...

tonypulis wrote:
OldGull wrote:
tonypulis wrote:
Not sure I agree with you there. I suggest that Brighton are in a win win situation based on Bridcutts contract. Hasn't it got a couple of years to run? Either Sunderland pay what Mr Bloom wants, or Bridcutt stays with you lot. In which case Bridcutt has to get himself in the 'right frame of mind' to play in order to keep himself in the shop window. If he throws his toys out of the pram? Well, I've seen how Mr Bloom deals with people like that. I predict a last minute deal - and you'll get your price
Tony old mate
I don't like the team you manage.
I do not particularly like your style of football ( but fair play to you for keeping Stoke up for so many years)(Hughes is rapidly repeating what he did for QPR).
But I do like many of your comments both serious and humorous.
Keep it up, There are too many miserable buggers on here.
UTA
DWP
I don't like my style of football either to be honest, but it pays the bills and keeps me in Welsh Cakes. To be fair, I can only work with what I am given and as my mother used to say 'you can't polish a turd can you?'
You could try, But is likely to end up smeared on the floor.
Aah so that was what your predecessor was trying.
[quote][p][bold]tonypulis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tonypulis[/bold] wrote: Not sure I agree with you there. I suggest that Brighton are in a win win situation based on Bridcutts contract. Hasn't it got a couple of years to run? Either Sunderland pay what Mr Bloom wants, or Bridcutt stays with you lot. In which case Bridcutt has to get himself in the 'right frame of mind' to play in order to keep himself in the shop window. If he throws his toys out of the pram? Well, I've seen how Mr Bloom deals with people like that. I predict a last minute deal - and you'll get your price[/p][/quote]Tony old mate I don't like the team you manage. I do not particularly like your style of football ( but fair play to you for keeping Stoke up for so many years)(Hughes is rapidly repeating what he did for QPR). But I do like many of your comments both serious and humorous. Keep it up, There are too many miserable buggers on here. UTA DWP[/p][/quote]I don't like my style of football either to be honest, but it pays the bills and keeps me in Welsh Cakes. To be fair, I can only work with what I am given and as my mother used to say 'you can't polish a turd can you?'[/p][/quote]You could try, But is likely to end up smeared on the floor. Aah so that was what your predecessor was trying. OldGull

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