Just one in for Albion on final day of trading

David Rodriguez spoke to the media through an interpreter yesterday. Picture by Sam Stephenson

David Rodriguez spoke to the media through an interpreter yesterday. Picture by Sam Stephenson

First published in Sport by , Chief sports reporter

Albion's January transfer business ended in a whimper last night as the club emphasised their commitment to complying with Financial Fair Play rules.

The Seagulls made one low cost signing on the final day of trading – former Celta Vigo striker David Rodriguez on a free transfer for the rest of the season.

The arrival of Rodriguez coincided with two-time player of the year Liam Bridcutt finally completing his long-awaited move to Sunderland for a reported £2.5 million.

Albion are intent on meeting FFP regulations which allow for losses of no more than £3 million this season, or up to £8 million if owner Tony Bloom can cover the £5 million shortfall.

The Seagulls were more than £8 million in the red in their first season at The Amex in 2011-12. Another hefty deficit is anticipated for last season, when Albion reached the Championship play-offs. Head coach Oscar Garcia was hoping for more signings to add to the captures of Charlton midfielder Dale Stephens on Thursday and striker Jonathan Obika on loan from Spurs earlier in the month.

He was left disappointed after losing Bridcutt to Sunderland, Ashley Barnes to Burnley and Adam El-Abd to Bristol City in January, as well as key midfielder Andrew Crofts for the rest of the season through injury.

Oscar, speaking yesterday morning, said: “I hope to have a busy day” and added: “The club knows all the positions I want to strengthen.”

One consolation for the Spaniard as he tries to keep Albion in the play-off hunt is that Will Buckley has stayed put, although he is still not fit for tomorrow’s trip to former club Watford.

The right-winger, targeted by Sunderland and Crystal Palace, has not played this year due to more hamstring trouble.

Albion will reassess their squad options once the loan transfer window opens later this month.

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7:49am Sat 1 Feb 14

linzowen says...

Overall i am more than happy with the transfer window dealings, We have, when you examine it rationally, a great squad which is full of talent and real depth. Ok , so we lost Bridcutt, but for a fee of 2.5 or 3 million, we sold El-abd and Barker and we lost Crofts to injury. On the flip side we have got Stephens and Rodrigues for fees and we have CMS and Hoskins making their way back which is fantastic welcome news, i'm sure for us fans and also their team mates. Along with that we have the emerging talents of JFC, Ince and March and Chicksen and young players waiting in the wings like Monakana and so on.
Andrews and Ward have been borrowed to to bolster things up this season without the club having to commit contractually.
Considering the unsettling events that occurred during the close season and the unfortunate run of injuries we have sustained, i really believe the team has performed admirably and yes like every footie fan i too always want for us to do better, naturally !
To my mind Arsenal have been the model on which to develop a football club over the past few years. They needed a new stadium and recognised that having to borrow heavily would have a major impact on the playing budget so they pulled in the reigns somewhat and Wenger was very prudent with signings, amongst heavy criticism from fans generally.
Allow for things to balance out and the debt has been repaid and you are starting to see the re-emergence of Arsenal in the top of the Premier league.
Now, given the FFP regulations i would like to think the Albion board are thinking in a similar vein. one regret i have about the transfer window dealings is that we didn't sign Conway who it transpires has gone to Blackburn. I think he would have worked perfectly for Ulloa but it didn't get a chance.
The Albion is a progressively focused club with realistic ambitions to succeed without over stretching itself.
Given time we will all reap the benefits and rewards and enjoy greater success.
Anybody remember when Alex Ferguson signed David May from
Blackburn ? Well the rumour was that he dropped a clanger as he thought he was getting Colin Hendry, he'd got the two mixed up, Well Gus we have still got Rohan Ince, who is a far better prospect than Liam Bridcutt and that is not detracting from how i good i feel Bridcutt was for the club, no sour grapes from down here Gus !

UTA, always stay in a positive frame of mind, its the best way forward.
Overall i am more than happy with the transfer window dealings, We have, when you examine it rationally, a great squad which is full of talent and real depth. Ok , so we lost Bridcutt, but for a fee of 2.5 or 3 million, we sold El-abd and Barker and we lost Crofts to injury. On the flip side we have got Stephens and Rodrigues for fees and we have CMS and Hoskins making their way back which is fantastic welcome news, i'm sure for us fans and also their team mates. Along with that we have the emerging talents of JFC, Ince and March and Chicksen and young players waiting in the wings like Monakana and so on. Andrews and Ward have been borrowed to to bolster things up this season without the club having to commit contractually. Considering the unsettling events that occurred during the close season and the unfortunate run of injuries we have sustained, i really believe the team has performed admirably and yes like every footie fan i too always want for us to do better, naturally ! To my mind Arsenal have been the model on which to develop a football club over the past few years. They needed a new stadium and recognised that having to borrow heavily would have a major impact on the playing budget so they pulled in the reigns somewhat and Wenger was very prudent with signings, amongst heavy criticism from fans generally. Allow for things to balance out and the debt has been repaid and you are starting to see the re-emergence of Arsenal in the top of the Premier league. Now, given the FFP regulations i would like to think the Albion board are thinking in a similar vein. one regret i have about the transfer window dealings is that we didn't sign Conway who it transpires has gone to Blackburn. I think he would have worked perfectly for Ulloa but it didn't get a chance. The Albion is a progressively focused club with realistic ambitions to succeed without over stretching itself. Given time we will all reap the benefits and rewards and enjoy greater success. Anybody remember when Alex Ferguson signed David May from Blackburn ? Well the rumour was that he dropped a clanger as he thought he was getting Colin Hendry, he'd got the two mixed up, Well Gus we have still got Rohan Ince, who is a far better prospect than Liam Bridcutt and that is not detracting from how i good i feel Bridcutt was for the club, no sour grapes from down here Gus ! UTA, always stay in a positive frame of mind, its the best way forward. linzowen
  • Score: 43

7:51am Sat 1 Feb 14

Hector66 says...

it isn't so much that we lost more than we gained - though we probably did - it is that we could have gained much more, esp clayton from hudds and either of the strikers from bournemouth or cardiff. (that's without factoring no conway return because we do have a stack of wide men and i also like the look of the young winger who's just joined)
it isn't so much that we lost more than we gained - though we probably did - it is that we could have gained much more, esp clayton from hudds and either of the strikers from bournemouth or cardiff. (that's without factoring no conway return because we do have a stack of wide men and i also like the look of the young winger who's just joined) Hector66
  • Score: -1

8:03am Sat 1 Feb 14

Topbrightonfan44 says...

Losing 4 top 1st team squad players and only buying 1 when your on the verge of promition I believe is shocking. You see other teams around us fighting to bring in top experienced impact players shows me that we are still very much behind top clubs in this league. There were certainly players available to us in this transfer window and with the players we sold certainly had the funds to bring them in. If feel bitterly disappointed and I wouldn't surprise me if we started falling behind. Such a shame.
Losing 4 top 1st team squad players and only buying 1 when your on the verge of promition I believe is shocking. You see other teams around us fighting to bring in top experienced impact players shows me that we are still very much behind top clubs in this league. There were certainly players available to us in this transfer window and with the players we sold certainly had the funds to bring them in. If feel bitterly disappointed and I wouldn't surprise me if we started falling behind. Such a shame. Topbrightonfan44
  • Score: -18

8:08am Sat 1 Feb 14

namgo49 says...

linzowen wrote:
Overall i am more than happy with the transfer window dealings, We have, when you examine it rationally, a great squad which is full of talent and real depth. Ok , so we lost Bridcutt, but for a fee of 2.5 or 3 million, we sold El-abd and Barker and we lost Crofts to injury. On the flip side we have got Stephens and Rodrigues for fees and we have CMS and Hoskins making their way back which is fantastic welcome news, i'm sure for us fans and also their team mates. Along with that we have the emerging talents of JFC, Ince and March and Chicksen and young players waiting in the wings like Monakana and so on.
Andrews and Ward have been borrowed to to bolster things up this season without the club having to commit contractually.
Considering the unsettling events that occurred during the close season and the unfortunate run of injuries we have sustained, i really believe the team has performed admirably and yes like every footie fan i too always want for us to do better, naturally !
To my mind Arsenal have been the model on which to develop a football club over the past few years. They needed a new stadium and recognised that having to borrow heavily would have a major impact on the playing budget so they pulled in the reigns somewhat and Wenger was very prudent with signings, amongst heavy criticism from fans generally.
Allow for things to balance out and the debt has been repaid and you are starting to see the re-emergence of Arsenal in the top of the Premier league.
Now, given the FFP regulations i would like to think the Albion board are thinking in a similar vein. one regret i have about the transfer window dealings is that we didn't sign Conway who it transpires has gone to Blackburn. I think he would have worked perfectly for Ulloa but it didn't get a chance.
The Albion is a progressively focused club with realistic ambitions to succeed without over stretching itself.
Given time we will all reap the benefits and rewards and enjoy greater success.
Anybody remember when Alex Ferguson signed David May from
Blackburn ? Well the rumour was that he dropped a clanger as he thought he was getting Colin Hendry, he'd got the two mixed up, Well Gus we have still got Rohan Ince, who is a far better prospect than Liam Bridcutt and that is not detracting from how i good i feel Bridcutt was for the club, no sour grapes from down here Gus !

UTA, always stay in a positive frame of mind, its the best way forward.
What a good post.

Unrelated but what a disgrace McDermott being sacked. A manager with integrity and proven ability to get a side out of the Championship. Shame on you Leeds!
[quote][p][bold]linzowen[/bold] wrote: Overall i am more than happy with the transfer window dealings, We have, when you examine it rationally, a great squad which is full of talent and real depth. Ok , so we lost Bridcutt, but for a fee of 2.5 or 3 million, we sold El-abd and Barker and we lost Crofts to injury. On the flip side we have got Stephens and Rodrigues for fees and we have CMS and Hoskins making their way back which is fantastic welcome news, i'm sure for us fans and also their team mates. Along with that we have the emerging talents of JFC, Ince and March and Chicksen and young players waiting in the wings like Monakana and so on. Andrews and Ward have been borrowed to to bolster things up this season without the club having to commit contractually. Considering the unsettling events that occurred during the close season and the unfortunate run of injuries we have sustained, i really believe the team has performed admirably and yes like every footie fan i too always want for us to do better, naturally ! To my mind Arsenal have been the model on which to develop a football club over the past few years. They needed a new stadium and recognised that having to borrow heavily would have a major impact on the playing budget so they pulled in the reigns somewhat and Wenger was very prudent with signings, amongst heavy criticism from fans generally. Allow for things to balance out and the debt has been repaid and you are starting to see the re-emergence of Arsenal in the top of the Premier league. Now, given the FFP regulations i would like to think the Albion board are thinking in a similar vein. one regret i have about the transfer window dealings is that we didn't sign Conway who it transpires has gone to Blackburn. I think he would have worked perfectly for Ulloa but it didn't get a chance. The Albion is a progressively focused club with realistic ambitions to succeed without over stretching itself. Given time we will all reap the benefits and rewards and enjoy greater success. Anybody remember when Alex Ferguson signed David May from Blackburn ? Well the rumour was that he dropped a clanger as he thought he was getting Colin Hendry, he'd got the two mixed up, Well Gus we have still got Rohan Ince, who is a far better prospect than Liam Bridcutt and that is not detracting from how i good i feel Bridcutt was for the club, no sour grapes from down here Gus ! UTA, always stay in a positive frame of mind, its the best way forward.[/p][/quote]What a good post. Unrelated but what a disgrace McDermott being sacked. A manager with integrity and proven ability to get a side out of the Championship. Shame on you Leeds! namgo49
  • Score: 13

8:40am Sat 1 Feb 14

Alfie T says...

namgo49 wrote:
linzowen wrote:
Overall i am more than happy with the transfer window dealings, We have, when you examine it rationally, a great squad which is full of talent and real depth. Ok , so we lost Bridcutt, but for a fee of 2.5 or 3 million, we sold El-abd and Barker and we lost Crofts to injury. On the flip side we have got Stephens and Rodrigues for fees and we have CMS and Hoskins making their way back which is fantastic welcome news, i'm sure for us fans and also their team mates. Along with that we have the emerging talents of JFC, Ince and March and Chicksen and young players waiting in the wings like Monakana and so on.
Andrews and Ward have been borrowed to to bolster things up this season without the club having to commit contractually.
Considering the unsettling events that occurred during the close season and the unfortunate run of injuries we have sustained, i really believe the team has performed admirably and yes like every footie fan i too always want for us to do better, naturally !
To my mind Arsenal have been the model on which to develop a football club over the past few years. They needed a new stadium and recognised that having to borrow heavily would have a major impact on the playing budget so they pulled in the reigns somewhat and Wenger was very prudent with signings, amongst heavy criticism from fans generally.
Allow for things to balance out and the debt has been repaid and you are starting to see the re-emergence of Arsenal in the top of the Premier league.
Now, given the FFP regulations i would like to think the Albion board are thinking in a similar vein. one regret i have about the transfer window dealings is that we didn't sign Conway who it transpires has gone to Blackburn. I think he would have worked perfectly for Ulloa but it didn't get a chance.
The Albion is a progressively focused club with realistic ambitions to succeed without over stretching itself.
Given time we will all reap the benefits and rewards and enjoy greater success.
Anybody remember when Alex Ferguson signed David May from
Blackburn ? Well the rumour was that he dropped a clanger as he thought he was getting Colin Hendry, he'd got the two mixed up, Well Gus we have still got Rohan Ince, who is a far better prospect than Liam Bridcutt and that is not detracting from how i good i feel Bridcutt was for the club, no sour grapes from down here Gus !

UTA, always stay in a positive frame of mind, its the best way forward.
What a good post.

Unrelated but what a disgrace McDermott being sacked. A manager with integrity and proven ability to get a side out of the Championship. Shame on you Leeds!
Agree, reasoned and positive post,dirty Leeds....
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]linzowen[/bold] wrote: Overall i am more than happy with the transfer window dealings, We have, when you examine it rationally, a great squad which is full of talent and real depth. Ok , so we lost Bridcutt, but for a fee of 2.5 or 3 million, we sold El-abd and Barker and we lost Crofts to injury. On the flip side we have got Stephens and Rodrigues for fees and we have CMS and Hoskins making their way back which is fantastic welcome news, i'm sure for us fans and also their team mates. Along with that we have the emerging talents of JFC, Ince and March and Chicksen and young players waiting in the wings like Monakana and so on. Andrews and Ward have been borrowed to to bolster things up this season without the club having to commit contractually. Considering the unsettling events that occurred during the close season and the unfortunate run of injuries we have sustained, i really believe the team has performed admirably and yes like every footie fan i too always want for us to do better, naturally ! To my mind Arsenal have been the model on which to develop a football club over the past few years. They needed a new stadium and recognised that having to borrow heavily would have a major impact on the playing budget so they pulled in the reigns somewhat and Wenger was very prudent with signings, amongst heavy criticism from fans generally. Allow for things to balance out and the debt has been repaid and you are starting to see the re-emergence of Arsenal in the top of the Premier league. Now, given the FFP regulations i would like to think the Albion board are thinking in a similar vein. one regret i have about the transfer window dealings is that we didn't sign Conway who it transpires has gone to Blackburn. I think he would have worked perfectly for Ulloa but it didn't get a chance. The Albion is a progressively focused club with realistic ambitions to succeed without over stretching itself. Given time we will all reap the benefits and rewards and enjoy greater success. Anybody remember when Alex Ferguson signed David May from Blackburn ? Well the rumour was that he dropped a clanger as he thought he was getting Colin Hendry, he'd got the two mixed up, Well Gus we have still got Rohan Ince, who is a far better prospect than Liam Bridcutt and that is not detracting from how i good i feel Bridcutt was for the club, no sour grapes from down here Gus ! UTA, always stay in a positive frame of mind, its the best way forward.[/p][/quote]What a good post. Unrelated but what a disgrace McDermott being sacked. A manager with integrity and proven ability to get a side out of the Championship. Shame on you Leeds![/p][/quote]Agree, reasoned and positive post,dirty Leeds.... Alfie T
  • Score: 2

9:05am Sat 1 Feb 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

namgo49 wrote:
linzowen wrote:
Overall i am more than happy with the transfer window dealings, We have, when you examine it rationally, a great squad which is full of talent and real depth. Ok , so we lost Bridcutt, but for a fee of 2.5 or 3 million, we sold El-abd and Barker and we lost Crofts to injury. On the flip side we have got Stephens and Rodrigues for fees and we have CMS and Hoskins making their way back which is fantastic welcome news, i'm sure for us fans and also their team mates. Along with that we have the emerging talents of JFC, Ince and March and Chicksen and young players waiting in the wings like Monakana and so on.
Andrews and Ward have been borrowed to to bolster things up this season without the club having to commit contractually.
Considering the unsettling events that occurred during the close season and the unfortunate run of injuries we have sustained, i really believe the team has performed admirably and yes like every footie fan i too always want for us to do better, naturally !
To my mind Arsenal have been the model on which to develop a football club over the past few years. They needed a new stadium and recognised that having to borrow heavily would have a major impact on the playing budget so they pulled in the reigns somewhat and Wenger was very prudent with signings, amongst heavy criticism from fans generally.
Allow for things to balance out and the debt has been repaid and you are starting to see the re-emergence of Arsenal in the top of the Premier league.
Now, given the FFP regulations i would like to think the Albion board are thinking in a similar vein. one regret i have about the transfer window dealings is that we didn't sign Conway who it transpires has gone to Blackburn. I think he would have worked perfectly for Ulloa but it didn't get a chance.
The Albion is a progressively focused club with realistic ambitions to succeed without over stretching itself.
Given time we will all reap the benefits and rewards and enjoy greater success.
Anybody remember when Alex Ferguson signed David May from
Blackburn ? Well the rumour was that he dropped a clanger as he thought he was getting Colin Hendry, he'd got the two mixed up, Well Gus we have still got Rohan Ince, who is a far better prospect than Liam Bridcutt and that is not detracting from how i good i feel Bridcutt was for the club, no sour grapes from down here Gus !

UTA, always stay in a positive frame of mind, its the best way forward.
What a good post.

Unrelated but what a disgrace McDermott being sacked. A manager with integrity and proven ability to get a side out of the Championship. Shame on you Leeds!
I agree. A stark reminder of what can happen when clubs are sold to foreign owners who simply don't know or care about the club.

I feel very fortunate that we are not in that situation.

Let's really crack on with a big push up the table in this second half of the season.
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]linzowen[/bold] wrote: Overall i am more than happy with the transfer window dealings, We have, when you examine it rationally, a great squad which is full of talent and real depth. Ok , so we lost Bridcutt, but for a fee of 2.5 or 3 million, we sold El-abd and Barker and we lost Crofts to injury. On the flip side we have got Stephens and Rodrigues for fees and we have CMS and Hoskins making their way back which is fantastic welcome news, i'm sure for us fans and also their team mates. Along with that we have the emerging talents of JFC, Ince and March and Chicksen and young players waiting in the wings like Monakana and so on. Andrews and Ward have been borrowed to to bolster things up this season without the club having to commit contractually. Considering the unsettling events that occurred during the close season and the unfortunate run of injuries we have sustained, i really believe the team has performed admirably and yes like every footie fan i too always want for us to do better, naturally ! To my mind Arsenal have been the model on which to develop a football club over the past few years. They needed a new stadium and recognised that having to borrow heavily would have a major impact on the playing budget so they pulled in the reigns somewhat and Wenger was very prudent with signings, amongst heavy criticism from fans generally. Allow for things to balance out and the debt has been repaid and you are starting to see the re-emergence of Arsenal in the top of the Premier league. Now, given the FFP regulations i would like to think the Albion board are thinking in a similar vein. one regret i have about the transfer window dealings is that we didn't sign Conway who it transpires has gone to Blackburn. I think he would have worked perfectly for Ulloa but it didn't get a chance. The Albion is a progressively focused club with realistic ambitions to succeed without over stretching itself. Given time we will all reap the benefits and rewards and enjoy greater success. Anybody remember when Alex Ferguson signed David May from Blackburn ? Well the rumour was that he dropped a clanger as he thought he was getting Colin Hendry, he'd got the two mixed up, Well Gus we have still got Rohan Ince, who is a far better prospect than Liam Bridcutt and that is not detracting from how i good i feel Bridcutt was for the club, no sour grapes from down here Gus ! UTA, always stay in a positive frame of mind, its the best way forward.[/p][/quote]What a good post. Unrelated but what a disgrace McDermott being sacked. A manager with integrity and proven ability to get a side out of the Championship. Shame on you Leeds![/p][/quote]I agree. A stark reminder of what can happen when clubs are sold to foreign owners who simply don't know or care about the club. I feel very fortunate that we are not in that situation. Let's really crack on with a big push up the table in this second half of the season. WisdomSpeaks
  • Score: 4

9:06am Sat 1 Feb 14

B rian Tawses left foot says...

Topbrightonfan44 says...

Losing 4 top 1st team squad players and only buying 1 when your on the verge of promition I believe is shocking. You see other teams around us fighting to bring in top experienced impact players shows me that we are still very much behind top clubs in this league. There were certainly players available to us in this transfer window and with the players we sold certainly had the funds to bring them in. If feel bitterly disappointed and I wouldn't surprise me if we started falling behind. Such a shame.

An absurd posting. We have not lost four top first team players..Bridcutt has been injured most of the season and his contribution thus fairly minimal. El-Abd was a great club man but left because he couldn't get into the team. Only Barnes will be missed - to what degree depends greatly on the impact made by the 'new' Spanish Dave. Apparently you don't even regard him as a signing, yet 'you tube' reveals him to be a fast and lethal. Of course it remains to be seen whether he can cut it in the championship. But that is true of most players who are signed by the club - certainly it was true of Ulloa and I don't think many supporters would doubt his quality.
Our competitors are taking a huge risk spending big time and gambling that it will get them promoted. It will not pay off for all of them and they will then be in big financial trouble. Albion's prudent ensures we will not be joining them.
Topbrightonfan44 says... Losing 4 top 1st team squad players and only buying 1 when your on the verge of promition I believe is shocking. You see other teams around us fighting to bring in top experienced impact players shows me that we are still very much behind top clubs in this league. There were certainly players available to us in this transfer window and with the players we sold certainly had the funds to bring them in. If feel bitterly disappointed and I wouldn't surprise me if we started falling behind. Such a shame. An absurd posting. We have not lost four top first team players..Bridcutt has been injured most of the season and his contribution thus fairly minimal. El-Abd was a great club man but left because he couldn't get into the team. Only Barnes will be missed - to what degree depends greatly on the impact made by the 'new' Spanish Dave. Apparently you don't even regard him as a signing, yet 'you tube' reveals him to be a fast and lethal. Of course it remains to be seen whether he can cut it in the championship. But that is true of most players who are signed by the club - certainly it was true of Ulloa and I don't think many supporters would doubt his quality. Our competitors are taking a huge risk spending big time and gambling that it will get them promoted. It will not pay off for all of them and they will then be in big financial trouble. Albion's prudent ensures we will not be joining them. B rian Tawses left foot
  • Score: 7

9:27am Sat 1 Feb 14

Claude Back says...

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
Topbrightonfan44 says...

Losing 4 top 1st team squad players and only buying 1 when your on the verge of promition I believe is shocking. You see other teams around us fighting to bring in top experienced impact players shows me that we are still very much behind top clubs in this league. There were certainly players available to us in this transfer window and with the players we sold certainly had the funds to bring them in. If feel bitterly disappointed and I wouldn't surprise me if we started falling behind. Such a shame.

An absurd posting. We have not lost four top first team players..Bridcutt has been injured most of the season and his contribution thus fairly minimal. El-Abd was a great club man but left because he couldn't get into the team. Only Barnes will be missed - to what degree depends greatly on the impact made by the 'new' Spanish Dave. Apparently you don't even regard him as a signing, yet 'you tube' reveals him to be a fast and lethal. Of course it remains to be seen whether he can cut it in the championship. But that is true of most players who are signed by the club - certainly it was true of Ulloa and I don't think many supporters would doubt his quality.
Our competitors are taking a huge risk spending big time and gambling that it will get them promoted. It will not pay off for all of them and they will then be in big financial trouble. Albion's prudent ensures we will not be joining them.
The problem is, Brian, that according to TalkSport yesterday other clubs are not adhering to FFP rules because they know the F.A. are going to do FA about any transgressions. Also, they apparently have found loopholes around any punishment. I don't know how true this is but it does grate a bit when we are playing the game and others aren't.
[quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: Topbrightonfan44 says... Losing 4 top 1st team squad players and only buying 1 when your on the verge of promition I believe is shocking. You see other teams around us fighting to bring in top experienced impact players shows me that we are still very much behind top clubs in this league. There were certainly players available to us in this transfer window and with the players we sold certainly had the funds to bring them in. If feel bitterly disappointed and I wouldn't surprise me if we started falling behind. Such a shame. An absurd posting. We have not lost four top first team players..Bridcutt has been injured most of the season and his contribution thus fairly minimal. El-Abd was a great club man but left because he couldn't get into the team. Only Barnes will be missed - to what degree depends greatly on the impact made by the 'new' Spanish Dave. Apparently you don't even regard him as a signing, yet 'you tube' reveals him to be a fast and lethal. Of course it remains to be seen whether he can cut it in the championship. But that is true of most players who are signed by the club - certainly it was true of Ulloa and I don't think many supporters would doubt his quality. Our competitors are taking a huge risk spending big time and gambling that it will get them promoted. It will not pay off for all of them and they will then be in big financial trouble. Albion's prudent ensures we will not be joining them.[/p][/quote]The problem is, Brian, that according to TalkSport yesterday other clubs are not adhering to FFP rules because they know the F.A. are going to do FA about any transgressions. Also, they apparently have found loopholes around any punishment. I don't know how true this is but it does grate a bit when we are playing the game and others aren't. Claude Back
  • Score: 10

9:40am Sat 1 Feb 14

when seagulls follow the trawler says...

Irrespective of FFP, any sensible club with a view to long term sustainability would want to be solvent. Simplly expecting TB to stick is hand in his pocket year after year is not a viable long term business model on which to run the club. To do so would mean that we would end up like Bolton who are essentially totally dependent on their Chairman to keep the club going. What would happen to them if he popped his clogs, or got into personal financial difficulty? No, i am more than happy with the way that we are going about things. At least we will still be in business in 10 years time - and let's face it - if the club went bust , a lot of supporters on here would have to find something else to moan about...........
Irrespective of FFP, any sensible club with a view to long term sustainability would want to be solvent. Simplly expecting TB to stick is hand in his pocket year after year is not a viable long term business model on which to run the club. To do so would mean that we would end up like Bolton who are essentially totally dependent on their Chairman to keep the club going. What would happen to them if he popped his clogs, or got into personal financial difficulty? No, i am more than happy with the way that we are going about things. At least we will still be in business in 10 years time - and let's face it - if the club went bust , a lot of supporters on here would have to find something else to moan about........... when seagulls follow the trawler
  • Score: 8

9:40am Sat 1 Feb 14

Far gull says...

Claude Back wrote:
B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
Topbrightonfan44 says...

Losing 4 top 1st team squad players and only buying 1 when your on the verge of promition I believe is shocking. You see other teams around us fighting to bring in top experienced impact players shows me that we are still very much behind top clubs in this league. There were certainly players available to us in this transfer window and with the players we sold certainly had the funds to bring them in. If feel bitterly disappointed and I wouldn't surprise me if we started falling behind. Such a shame.

An absurd posting. We have not lost four top first team players..Bridcutt has been injured most of the season and his contribution thus fairly minimal. El-Abd was a great club man but left because he couldn't get into the team. Only Barnes will be missed - to what degree depends greatly on the impact made by the 'new' Spanish Dave. Apparently you don't even regard him as a signing, yet 'you tube' reveals him to be a fast and lethal. Of course it remains to be seen whether he can cut it in the championship. But that is true of most players who are signed by the club - certainly it was true of Ulloa and I don't think many supporters would doubt his quality.
Our competitors are taking a huge risk spending big time and gambling that it will get them promoted. It will not pay off for all of them and they will then be in big financial trouble. Albion's prudent ensures we will not be joining them.
The problem is, Brian, that according to TalkSport yesterday other clubs are not adhering to FFP rules because they know the F.A. are going to do FA about any transgressions. Also, they apparently have found loopholes around any punishment. I don't know how true this is but it does grate a bit when we are playing the game and others aren't.
Ffp won't be applied. Lets face it are the fa going to by fining a club such as forest or leeds even in our league let alone the real big clubs ,to a point where that fine will bancrupt them? No they are not .so forget ffp.
Maybe our problem is ffp is being used as cover for our own needs to pay for amex extra seating and our £29 mill training facility.
Problem with this club cannot say this without i believe upsetting our floating 10,000 fans who might just twig as Gus obviously did that we are going to bar a miracle of a buy out from some oiliarch or arab going ro have to rely on kids and be content for a few years on stable but going nowhere but mid table champiinship football.
As someonelse suggested we are i bwlieve following Arsenal blueprint for a few years.
Not that palatable to floating fans.
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: Topbrightonfan44 says... Losing 4 top 1st team squad players and only buying 1 when your on the verge of promition I believe is shocking. You see other teams around us fighting to bring in top experienced impact players shows me that we are still very much behind top clubs in this league. There were certainly players available to us in this transfer window and with the players we sold certainly had the funds to bring them in. If feel bitterly disappointed and I wouldn't surprise me if we started falling behind. Such a shame. An absurd posting. We have not lost four top first team players..Bridcutt has been injured most of the season and his contribution thus fairly minimal. El-Abd was a great club man but left because he couldn't get into the team. Only Barnes will be missed - to what degree depends greatly on the impact made by the 'new' Spanish Dave. Apparently you don't even regard him as a signing, yet 'you tube' reveals him to be a fast and lethal. Of course it remains to be seen whether he can cut it in the championship. But that is true of most players who are signed by the club - certainly it was true of Ulloa and I don't think many supporters would doubt his quality. Our competitors are taking a huge risk spending big time and gambling that it will get them promoted. It will not pay off for all of them and they will then be in big financial trouble. Albion's prudent ensures we will not be joining them.[/p][/quote]The problem is, Brian, that according to TalkSport yesterday other clubs are not adhering to FFP rules because they know the F.A. are going to do FA about any transgressions. Also, they apparently have found loopholes around any punishment. I don't know how true this is but it does grate a bit when we are playing the game and others aren't.[/p][/quote]Ffp won't be applied. Lets face it are the fa going to by fining a club such as forest or leeds even in our league let alone the real big clubs ,to a point where that fine will bancrupt them? No they are not .so forget ffp. Maybe our problem is ffp is being used as cover for our own needs to pay for amex extra seating and our £29 mill training facility. Problem with this club cannot say this without i believe upsetting our floating 10,000 fans who might just twig as Gus obviously did that we are going to bar a miracle of a buy out from some oiliarch or arab going ro have to rely on kids and be content for a few years on stable but going nowhere but mid table champiinship football. As someonelse suggested we are i bwlieve following Arsenal blueprint for a few years. Not that palatable to floating fans. Far gull
  • Score: 1

9:42am Sat 1 Feb 14

Graysgull says...

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
Topbrightonfan44 says...

Losing 4 top 1st team squad players and only buying 1 when your on the verge of promition I believe is shocking. You see other teams around us fighting to bring in top experienced impact players shows me that we are still very much behind top clubs in this league. There were certainly players available to us in this transfer window and with the players we sold certainly had the funds to bring them in. If feel bitterly disappointed and I wouldn't surprise me if we started falling behind. Such a shame.

An absurd posting. We have not lost four top first team players..Bridcutt has been injured most of the season and his contribution thus fairly minimal. El-Abd was a great club man but left because he couldn't get into the team. Only Barnes will be missed - to what degree depends greatly on the impact made by the 'new' Spanish Dave. Apparently you don't even regard him as a signing, yet 'you tube' reveals him to be a fast and lethal. Of course it remains to be seen whether he can cut it in the championship. But that is true of most players who are signed by the club - certainly it was true of Ulloa and I don't think many supporters would doubt his quality.
Our competitors are taking a huge risk spending big time and gambling that it will get them promoted. It will not pay off for all of them and they will then be in big financial trouble. Albion's prudent ensures we will not be joining them.
Well said Brian.

I would rather the club have a firm financial base, with a stable management team, and progress steadily to the Premier League, and then stay there, rather than spend spend spend, get a promotion, and then do a Palace and spend the season struggling, and in some instances being a laughing stock.

UTA
[quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: Topbrightonfan44 says... Losing 4 top 1st team squad players and only buying 1 when your on the verge of promition I believe is shocking. You see other teams around us fighting to bring in top experienced impact players shows me that we are still very much behind top clubs in this league. There were certainly players available to us in this transfer window and with the players we sold certainly had the funds to bring them in. If feel bitterly disappointed and I wouldn't surprise me if we started falling behind. Such a shame. An absurd posting. We have not lost four top first team players..Bridcutt has been injured most of the season and his contribution thus fairly minimal. El-Abd was a great club man but left because he couldn't get into the team. Only Barnes will be missed - to what degree depends greatly on the impact made by the 'new' Spanish Dave. Apparently you don't even regard him as a signing, yet 'you tube' reveals him to be a fast and lethal. Of course it remains to be seen whether he can cut it in the championship. But that is true of most players who are signed by the club - certainly it was true of Ulloa and I don't think many supporters would doubt his quality. Our competitors are taking a huge risk spending big time and gambling that it will get them promoted. It will not pay off for all of them and they will then be in big financial trouble. Albion's prudent ensures we will not be joining them.[/p][/quote]Well said Brian. I would rather the club have a firm financial base, with a stable management team, and progress steadily to the Premier League, and then stay there, rather than spend spend spend, get a promotion, and then do a Palace and spend the season struggling, and in some instances being a laughing stock. UTA Graysgull
  • Score: 0

9:43am Sat 1 Feb 14

dave from bexill says...

WisdomSpeaks wrote:
namgo49 wrote:
linzowen wrote:
Overall i am more than happy with the transfer window dealings, We have, when you examine it rationally, a great squad which is full of talent and real depth. Ok , so we lost Bridcutt, but for a fee of 2.5 or 3 million, we sold El-abd and Barker and we lost Crofts to injury. On the flip side we have got Stephens and Rodrigues for fees and we have CMS and Hoskins making their way back which is fantastic welcome news, i'm sure for us fans and also their team mates. Along with that we have the emerging talents of JFC, Ince and March and Chicksen and young players waiting in the wings like Monakana and so on.
Andrews and Ward have been borrowed to to bolster things up this season without the club having to commit contractually.
Considering the unsettling events that occurred during the close season and the unfortunate run of injuries we have sustained, i really believe the team has performed admirably and yes like every footie fan i too always want for us to do better, naturally !
To my mind Arsenal have been the model on which to develop a football club over the past few years. They needed a new stadium and recognised that having to borrow heavily would have a major impact on the playing budget so they pulled in the reigns somewhat and Wenger was very prudent with signings, amongst heavy criticism from fans generally.
Allow for things to balance out and the debt has been repaid and you are starting to see the re-emergence of Arsenal in the top of the Premier league.
Now, given the FFP regulations i would like to think the Albion board are thinking in a similar vein. one regret i have about the transfer window dealings is that we didn't sign Conway who it transpires has gone to Blackburn. I think he would have worked perfectly for Ulloa but it didn't get a chance.
The Albion is a progressively focused club with realistic ambitions to succeed without over stretching itself.
Given time we will all reap the benefits and rewards and enjoy greater success.
Anybody remember when Alex Ferguson signed David May from
Blackburn ? Well the rumour was that he dropped a clanger as he thought he was getting Colin Hendry, he'd got the two mixed up, Well Gus we have still got Rohan Ince, who is a far better prospect than Liam Bridcutt and that is not detracting from how i good i feel Bridcutt was for the club, no sour grapes from down here Gus !

UTA, always stay in a positive frame of mind, its the best way forward.
What a good post.

Unrelated but what a disgrace McDermott being sacked. A manager with integrity and proven ability to get a side out of the Championship. Shame on you Leeds!
I agree. A stark reminder of what can happen when clubs are sold to foreign owners who simply don't know or care about the club.

I feel very fortunate that we are not in that situation.

Let's really crack on with a big push up the table in this second half of the season.
Which foreign owners do you mean exactly, those who own Manchester Utd and City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal etc,etc. I agree that some have been 'dodgy' to say the least, but so have some British owners, I'm sure, including some who previously ran our own club.
[quote][p][bold]WisdomSpeaks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]linzowen[/bold] wrote: Overall i am more than happy with the transfer window dealings, We have, when you examine it rationally, a great squad which is full of talent and real depth. Ok , so we lost Bridcutt, but for a fee of 2.5 or 3 million, we sold El-abd and Barker and we lost Crofts to injury. On the flip side we have got Stephens and Rodrigues for fees and we have CMS and Hoskins making their way back which is fantastic welcome news, i'm sure for us fans and also their team mates. Along with that we have the emerging talents of JFC, Ince and March and Chicksen and young players waiting in the wings like Monakana and so on. Andrews and Ward have been borrowed to to bolster things up this season without the club having to commit contractually. Considering the unsettling events that occurred during the close season and the unfortunate run of injuries we have sustained, i really believe the team has performed admirably and yes like every footie fan i too always want for us to do better, naturally ! To my mind Arsenal have been the model on which to develop a football club over the past few years. They needed a new stadium and recognised that having to borrow heavily would have a major impact on the playing budget so they pulled in the reigns somewhat and Wenger was very prudent with signings, amongst heavy criticism from fans generally. Allow for things to balance out and the debt has been repaid and you are starting to see the re-emergence of Arsenal in the top of the Premier league. Now, given the FFP regulations i would like to think the Albion board are thinking in a similar vein. one regret i have about the transfer window dealings is that we didn't sign Conway who it transpires has gone to Blackburn. I think he would have worked perfectly for Ulloa but it didn't get a chance. The Albion is a progressively focused club with realistic ambitions to succeed without over stretching itself. Given time we will all reap the benefits and rewards and enjoy greater success. Anybody remember when Alex Ferguson signed David May from Blackburn ? Well the rumour was that he dropped a clanger as he thought he was getting Colin Hendry, he'd got the two mixed up, Well Gus we have still got Rohan Ince, who is a far better prospect than Liam Bridcutt and that is not detracting from how i good i feel Bridcutt was for the club, no sour grapes from down here Gus ! UTA, always stay in a positive frame of mind, its the best way forward.[/p][/quote]What a good post. Unrelated but what a disgrace McDermott being sacked. A manager with integrity and proven ability to get a side out of the Championship. Shame on you Leeds![/p][/quote]I agree. A stark reminder of what can happen when clubs are sold to foreign owners who simply don't know or care about the club. I feel very fortunate that we are not in that situation. Let's really crack on with a big push up the table in this second half of the season.[/p][/quote]Which foreign owners do you mean exactly, those who own Manchester Utd and City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal etc,etc. I agree that some have been 'dodgy' to say the least, but so have some British owners, I'm sure, including some who previously ran our own club. dave from bexill
  • Score: 4

9:50am Sat 1 Feb 14

Edward_1 says...

I think the club are behaving responsibility by trying to keep within the financial fair play rules,remember the financial trouble we were in the 1980s when wee hardly had any money to but players and the club was in debt.Its a shame to lose bridcutt he was the kingpin of our defensive midfield but theres no pint keeping a player who wants to leave.Ince is a worthy replacement,unforuna
tely Andrews who we have on loan is not a worthy partner in the defensive midfield.He lacks pace as evidenced in the home game against Forest when he tried to run past two Forest players and realising his lack of pace and inablitiy to get past them fell over ,then tried to claim a free kick..Stephens may prove to be a good attacking midfield option(we need an attacking midfielder in the Brian Horton mode who can run from box to box and score goals).,however another defensive midfielder in the loan window would be useful to replace Andrews.
I think the club are behaving responsibility by trying to keep within the financial fair play rules,remember the financial trouble we were in the 1980s when wee hardly had any money to but players and the club was in debt.Its a shame to lose bridcutt he was the kingpin of our defensive midfield but theres no pint keeping a player who wants to leave.Ince is a worthy replacement,unforuna tely Andrews who we have on loan is not a worthy partner in the defensive midfield.He lacks pace as evidenced in the home game against Forest when he tried to run past two Forest players and realising his lack of pace and inablitiy to get past them fell over ,then tried to claim a free kick..Stephens may prove to be a good attacking midfield option(we need an attacking midfielder in the Brian Horton mode who can run from box to box and score goals).,however another defensive midfielder in the loan window would be useful to replace Andrews. Edward_1
  • Score: -3

9:51am Sat 1 Feb 14

bIsleybill says...

FFP is the tail wagging the transfer market dog. Necessary, say Albion.
I hope all those teams throwing caution to the wind meet their come uppance at reckoning time. Watch Albion scream for full implementation of FFP rules. If teams that breach FFP regulations simply get a mild slap on the wrist the board will have some explaining to do.
FFP is the tail wagging the transfer market dog. Necessary, say Albion. I hope all those teams throwing caution to the wind meet their come uppance at reckoning time. Watch Albion scream for full implementation of FFP rules. If teams that breach FFP regulations simply get a mild slap on the wrist the board will have some explaining to do. bIsleybill
  • Score: 1

10:05am Sat 1 Feb 14

Gray says...

Sorry I am very disappointed sold Barnes, El-abd, Bridcutt & Barker signed a unproven striker who hasn't played much for a year & a midfielder from a very poor championship team. We appear to be the only club following the FFP rules or using it as an excuse not to buy players. The manager & a lot of the senior players have made it clear we needed to strengthen the squad can see a lot more players & staff going now they can see what the clubs priorities are. I have followed the club since the seventies so am delighted how far we have come & am thrilled we are now a good championship team rather than worrying about becoming a non-league team but that still doesn't stop me feeling we have no ambition to go any further which I am sure is why we lost out on so many potential targets (Conway to Blackburn, Grabben to Bournemouth, Mason to Bolton)
Sorry I am very disappointed sold Barnes, El-abd, Bridcutt & Barker signed a unproven striker who hasn't played much for a year & a midfielder from a very poor championship team. We appear to be the only club following the FFP rules or using it as an excuse not to buy players. The manager & a lot of the senior players have made it clear we needed to strengthen the squad can see a lot more players & staff going now they can see what the clubs priorities are. I have followed the club since the seventies so am delighted how far we have come & am thrilled we are now a good championship team rather than worrying about becoming a non-league team but that still doesn't stop me feeling we have no ambition to go any further which I am sure is why we lost out on so many potential targets (Conway to Blackburn, Grabben to Bournemouth, Mason to Bolton) Gray
  • Score: 0

10:06am Sat 1 Feb 14

smallie says...

One nobody and a free transfer, very poor indeed.
One nobody and a free transfer, very poor indeed. smallie
  • Score: -6

10:20am Sat 1 Feb 14

Don Pedro says...

Hopes were raised but then dashed. Little ambition here...
Hopes were raised but then dashed. Little ambition here... Don Pedro
  • Score: -5

10:28am Sat 1 Feb 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

linzowen wrote:
Overall i am more than happy with the transfer window dealings, We have, when you examine it rationally, a great squad which is full of talent and real depth. Ok , so we lost Bridcutt, but for a fee of 2.5 or 3 million, we sold El-abd and Barker and we lost Crofts to injury. On the flip side we have got Stephens and Rodrigues for fees and we have CMS and Hoskins making their way back which is fantastic welcome news, i'm sure for us fans and also their team mates. Along with that we have the emerging talents of JFC, Ince and March and Chicksen and young players waiting in the wings like Monakana and so on.
Andrews and Ward have been borrowed to to bolster things up this season without the club having to commit contractually.
Considering the unsettling events that occurred during the close season and the unfortunate run of injuries we have sustained, i really believe the team has performed admirably and yes like every footie fan i too always want for us to do better, naturally !
To my mind Arsenal have been the model on which to develop a football club over the past few years. They needed a new stadium and recognised that having to borrow heavily would have a major impact on the playing budget so they pulled in the reigns somewhat and Wenger was very prudent with signings, amongst heavy criticism from fans generally.
Allow for things to balance out and the debt has been repaid and you are starting to see the re-emergence of Arsenal in the top of the Premier league.
Now, given the FFP regulations i would like to think the Albion board are thinking in a similar vein. one regret i have about the transfer window dealings is that we didn't sign Conway who it transpires has gone to Blackburn. I think he would have worked perfectly for Ulloa but it didn't get a chance.
The Albion is a progressively focused club with realistic ambitions to succeed without over stretching itself.
Given time we will all reap the benefits and rewards and enjoy greater success.
Anybody remember when Alex Ferguson signed David May from
Blackburn ? Well the rumour was that he dropped a clanger as he thought he was getting Colin Hendry, he'd got the two mixed up, Well Gus we have still got Rohan Ince, who is a far better prospect than Liam Bridcutt and that is not detracting from how i good i feel Bridcutt was for the club, no sour grapes from down here Gus !

UTA, always stay in a positive frame of mind, its the best way forward.
Well well said- absolutely brilliant post.This mirrored every comment I was going to put forward!
[quote][p][bold]linzowen[/bold] wrote: Overall i am more than happy with the transfer window dealings, We have, when you examine it rationally, a great squad which is full of talent and real depth. Ok , so we lost Bridcutt, but for a fee of 2.5 or 3 million, we sold El-abd and Barker and we lost Crofts to injury. On the flip side we have got Stephens and Rodrigues for fees and we have CMS and Hoskins making their way back which is fantastic welcome news, i'm sure for us fans and also their team mates. Along with that we have the emerging talents of JFC, Ince and March and Chicksen and young players waiting in the wings like Monakana and so on. Andrews and Ward have been borrowed to to bolster things up this season without the club having to commit contractually. Considering the unsettling events that occurred during the close season and the unfortunate run of injuries we have sustained, i really believe the team has performed admirably and yes like every footie fan i too always want for us to do better, naturally ! To my mind Arsenal have been the model on which to develop a football club over the past few years. They needed a new stadium and recognised that having to borrow heavily would have a major impact on the playing budget so they pulled in the reigns somewhat and Wenger was very prudent with signings, amongst heavy criticism from fans generally. Allow for things to balance out and the debt has been repaid and you are starting to see the re-emergence of Arsenal in the top of the Premier league. Now, given the FFP regulations i would like to think the Albion board are thinking in a similar vein. one regret i have about the transfer window dealings is that we didn't sign Conway who it transpires has gone to Blackburn. I think he would have worked perfectly for Ulloa but it didn't get a chance. The Albion is a progressively focused club with realistic ambitions to succeed without over stretching itself. Given time we will all reap the benefits and rewards and enjoy greater success. Anybody remember when Alex Ferguson signed David May from Blackburn ? Well the rumour was that he dropped a clanger as he thought he was getting Colin Hendry, he'd got the two mixed up, Well Gus we have still got Rohan Ince, who is a far better prospect than Liam Bridcutt and that is not detracting from how i good i feel Bridcutt was for the club, no sour grapes from down here Gus ! UTA, always stay in a positive frame of mind, its the best way forward.[/p][/quote]Well well said- absolutely brilliant post.This mirrored every comment I was going to put forward! SeagullOverSelsey
  • Score: 1

10:36am Sat 1 Feb 14

SonnyJim55 says...

how long are they going to keep hiding behind FFP? FFP is not happening either now or in the future, the FA will not bankrupt clubs as has previously been mentioned. It would be like turkeys voting for Xmas!
It would be more palatable if those in charge were just honest and said there is no chance of spending money for better players, and at this point in time they are happy to try and stay in this League with no real ambition regarding the top flight.
But they keep dangling the possibility of something more so the season tickets will be renewed.
At some point soon those season ticket renewals are going to gradually dry up, then there will be no chance of getting to the top flight as there really will be o money for players! This club charge a fortune to watch football so if those renewals do dry up then it will leave a very large hole in the finances.
how long are they going to keep hiding behind FFP? FFP is not happening either now or in the future, the FA will not bankrupt clubs as has previously been mentioned. It would be like turkeys voting for Xmas! It would be more palatable if those in charge were just honest and said there is no chance of spending money for better players, and at this point in time they are happy to try and stay in this League with no real ambition regarding the top flight. But they keep dangling the possibility of something more so the season tickets will be renewed. At some point soon those season ticket renewals are going to gradually dry up, then there will be no chance of getting to the top flight as there really will be o money for players! This club charge a fortune to watch football so if those renewals do dry up then it will leave a very large hole in the finances. SonnyJim55
  • Score: 5

10:52am Sat 1 Feb 14

Steveg1958 says...

Gray wrote:
Sorry I am very disappointed sold Barnes, El-abd, Bridcutt & Barker signed a unproven striker who hasn't played much for a year & a midfielder from a very poor championship team. We appear to be the only club following the FFP rules or using it as an excuse not to buy players. The manager & a lot of the senior players have made it clear we needed to strengthen the squad can see a lot more players & staff going now they can see what the clubs priorities are. I have followed the club since the seventies so am delighted how far we have come & am thrilled we are now a good championship team rather than worrying about becoming a non-league team but that still doesn't stop me feeling we have no ambition to go any further which I am sure is why we lost out on so many potential targets (Conway to Blackburn, Grabben to Bournemouth, Mason to Bolton)
Me too, the main point here is several first team players and indeed the "head coach" came out and said we need more in the window, But we get a player from Spain who hasn't played much for a year, plus a lad from low end championship team, and missed out on too many to be anything other than trying to get them on the cheap !.
To Rely on the FA to do anything about those transgressing FFP, is stupid, those teams who get promoted by buying will not give a stuff about paltry fines. We will be left with Mr Barber complaining bitterly, then cutting costs further by firing Oscar and putting NJ in charge.
Am not holding my breath on a play off place. but hope I am wrong.
And what of Will Buckley, he is still with us in body but what about his head, the club supposedly agreed fees for him with Palace and Sunderland but wouldn't let him go because we had no replacement, that surely says to WB,that he club no longer want him !, very motivating guys, don't rule out a loan move for him. Also don't bank on £4M being available either in the summer for transfers. Am severely underwhelmed
[quote][p][bold]Gray[/bold] wrote: Sorry I am very disappointed sold Barnes, El-abd, Bridcutt & Barker signed a unproven striker who hasn't played much for a year & a midfielder from a very poor championship team. We appear to be the only club following the FFP rules or using it as an excuse not to buy players. The manager & a lot of the senior players have made it clear we needed to strengthen the squad can see a lot more players & staff going now they can see what the clubs priorities are. I have followed the club since the seventies so am delighted how far we have come & am thrilled we are now a good championship team rather than worrying about becoming a non-league team but that still doesn't stop me feeling we have no ambition to go any further which I am sure is why we lost out on so many potential targets (Conway to Blackburn, Grabben to Bournemouth, Mason to Bolton)[/p][/quote]Me too, the main point here is several first team players and indeed the "head coach" came out and said we need more in the window, But we get a player from Spain who hasn't played much for a year, plus a lad from low end championship team, and missed out on too many to be anything other than trying to get them on the cheap !. To Rely on the FA to do anything about those transgressing FFP, is stupid, those teams who get promoted by buying will not give a stuff about paltry fines. We will be left with Mr Barber complaining bitterly, then cutting costs further by firing Oscar and putting NJ in charge. Am not holding my breath on a play off place. but hope I am wrong. And what of Will Buckley, he is still with us in body but what about his head, the club supposedly agreed fees for him with Palace and Sunderland but wouldn't let him go because we had no replacement, that surely says to WB,that he club no longer want him !, very motivating guys, don't rule out a loan move for him. Also don't bank on £4M being available either in the summer for transfers. Am severely underwhelmed Steveg1958
  • Score: 2

10:52am Sat 1 Feb 14

B rian Tawses left foot says...

SonnyJim55 says...

how long are they going to keep hiding behind FFP? FFP is not happening either now or in the future, the FA will not bankrupt clubs as has previously been mentioned. It would be like turkeys voting for Xmas!
It would be more palatable if those in charge were just honest and said there is no chance of spending money for better players, and at this point in time they are happy to try and stay in this League with no real ambition regarding the top flight.
But they keep dangling the possibility of something more so the season tickets will be renewed.
At some point soon those season ticket renewals are going to gradually dry up, then there will be no chance of getting to the top flight as there really will be o money for players! This club charge a fortune to watch football so if those renewals do dry up then it will leave a very large hole in the finances.

I suppose that it's only being so cheerful as keeps you going!
SonnyJim55 says... how long are they going to keep hiding behind FFP? FFP is not happening either now or in the future, the FA will not bankrupt clubs as has previously been mentioned. It would be like turkeys voting for Xmas! It would be more palatable if those in charge were just honest and said there is no chance of spending money for better players, and at this point in time they are happy to try and stay in this League with no real ambition regarding the top flight. But they keep dangling the possibility of something more so the season tickets will be renewed. At some point soon those season ticket renewals are going to gradually dry up, then there will be no chance of getting to the top flight as there really will be o money for players! This club charge a fortune to watch football so if those renewals do dry up then it will leave a very large hole in the finances. I suppose that it's only being so cheerful as keeps you going! B rian Tawses left foot
  • Score: 1

10:58am Sat 1 Feb 14

To baldly go says...

Gray wrote:
Sorry I am very disappointed sold Barnes, El-abd, Bridcutt & Barker signed a unproven striker who hasn't played much for a year & a midfielder from a very poor championship team. We appear to be the only club following the FFP rules or using it as an excuse not to buy players. The manager & a lot of the senior players have made it clear we needed to strengthen the squad can see a lot more players & staff going now they can see what the clubs priorities are. I have followed the club since the seventies so am delighted how far we have come & am thrilled we are now a good championship team rather than worrying about becoming a non-league team but that still doesn't stop me feeling we have no ambition to go any further which I am sure is why we lost out on so many potential targets (Conway to Blackburn, Grabben to Bournemouth, Mason to Bolton)
Money doesn't get you everything and buying the so called best players doesn't necessarily either, we already have the best keeper/defence in the league, our midfield is good enough to match others, Ince, Orlandi, Jfc, Agustien , Andrews and Stevens, wide players in LuaLua, Buckley, March and Lopez,
Up front we have Ulloa, Obika and Spanish Dave mk2, Cms and Hoskins set to return, this team will get us in to the play offs, with other youngsters waiting in the wings to take their place in the team as well.
I think other teams are jealous of what we have and when we get to the promised land it will be on a stable footing and we will be able to stay there.
[quote][p][bold]Gray[/bold] wrote: Sorry I am very disappointed sold Barnes, El-abd, Bridcutt & Barker signed a unproven striker who hasn't played much for a year & a midfielder from a very poor championship team. We appear to be the only club following the FFP rules or using it as an excuse not to buy players. The manager & a lot of the senior players have made it clear we needed to strengthen the squad can see a lot more players & staff going now they can see what the clubs priorities are. I have followed the club since the seventies so am delighted how far we have come & am thrilled we are now a good championship team rather than worrying about becoming a non-league team but that still doesn't stop me feeling we have no ambition to go any further which I am sure is why we lost out on so many potential targets (Conway to Blackburn, Grabben to Bournemouth, Mason to Bolton)[/p][/quote]Money doesn't get you everything and buying the so called best players doesn't necessarily either, we already have the best keeper/defence in the league, our midfield is good enough to match others, Ince, Orlandi, Jfc, Agustien , Andrews and Stevens, wide players in LuaLua, Buckley, March and Lopez, Up front we have Ulloa, Obika and Spanish Dave mk2, Cms and Hoskins set to return, this team will get us in to the play offs, with other youngsters waiting in the wings to take their place in the team as well. I think other teams are jealous of what we have and when we get to the promised land it will be on a stable footing and we will be able to stay there. To baldly go
  • Score: 3

11:02am Sat 1 Feb 14

B rian Tawses left foot says...

I am amazed at the number at the number of negative postings on here. Albion are one point worse off than they were than they were last season and certainly in with a shout off making the play offs. Still in the FA cup with it's attendant revenue implications. The new training facility is on the way which can help ensure a flow of quality young professionals for the future. Also the development of ventures at Falmer can provide revue for the purchase of purchase of players. OK it's not a recipe for instant success - but instant success is rather like instant food - lacking in sustenance.
I am amazed at the number at the number of negative postings on here. Albion are one point worse off than they were than they were last season and certainly in with a shout off making the play offs. Still in the FA cup with it's attendant revenue implications. The new training facility is on the way which can help ensure a flow of quality young professionals for the future. Also the development of ventures at Falmer can provide revue for the purchase of purchase of players. OK it's not a recipe for instant success - but instant success is rather like instant food - lacking in sustenance. B rian Tawses left foot
  • Score: 3

12:01pm Sat 1 Feb 14

There are seagulls in Islamabad says...

happy to still have buckley. lost liam but ince has been great. overall not to shoddy. cant we resign vincente? what about the Russian we had 20 years ago? I love you brighton fact.
happy to still have buckley. lost liam but ince has been great. overall not to shoddy. cant we resign vincente? what about the Russian we had 20 years ago? I love you brighton fact. There are seagulls in Islamabad
  • Score: 1

12:20pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Far gull says...

SonnyJim55 wrote:
how long are they going to keep hiding behind FFP? FFP is not happening either now or in the future, the FA will not bankrupt clubs as has previously been mentioned. It would be like turkeys voting for Xmas!
It would be more palatable if those in charge were just honest and said there is no chance of spending money for better players, and at this point in time they are happy to try and stay in this League with no real ambition regarding the top flight.
But they keep dangling the possibility of something more so the season tickets will be renewed.
At some point soon those season ticket renewals are going to gradually dry up, then there will be no chance of getting to the top flight as there really will be o money for players! This club charge a fortune to watch football so if those renewals do dry up then it will leave a very large hole in the finances.
I actually think attendances have dropped this season already despite what is said. If we slide down table i believe next year could define us for many years . Tk will leave LU+ MU+KLL. Tthen it really will be up to the kids to keep us going. Hope for all our sakes i am wrong.
[quote][p][bold]SonnyJim55[/bold] wrote: how long are they going to keep hiding behind FFP? FFP is not happening either now or in the future, the FA will not bankrupt clubs as has previously been mentioned. It would be like turkeys voting for Xmas! It would be more palatable if those in charge were just honest and said there is no chance of spending money for better players, and at this point in time they are happy to try and stay in this League with no real ambition regarding the top flight. But they keep dangling the possibility of something more so the season tickets will be renewed. At some point soon those season ticket renewals are going to gradually dry up, then there will be no chance of getting to the top flight as there really will be o money for players! This club charge a fortune to watch football so if those renewals do dry up then it will leave a very large hole in the finances.[/p][/quote]I actually think attendances have dropped this season already despite what is said. If we slide down table i believe next year could define us for many years . Tk will leave LU+ MU+KLL. Tthen it really will be up to the kids to keep us going. Hope for all our sakes i am wrong. Far gull
  • Score: 0

12:30pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Major Bloodboil says...

I've looked at some articles about FFP. In simple terms this season Championship clubs are permitted to make a loss of £5 million excluding money spent on infrastructure and youth development. Next season it is £3 million and it gradually reduces from then on.

The penalties that can be applied for breaching FFP rules are as follows:-
Reprimand / Warning
Fine
Deduction of Points
Withholding of Revenue from UEFA competition
Prohibition to register new players for UEFA competitions;
A restriction on the number of players that a club may register for UEFA competitions
Disqualification from a competition in progress
Exclusion from future competitions

Teams that win promotion to the Premier League having failed to adhere to the rules must pay a ‘Fair Play Tax’ on their losses which ranges from 1% on the first £100,000 to 100% on anything over £10m.

Apparently QPR could be fined £60m.

In the light of the above it is evident that a points deduction can be applied and that seems to me to be the most appropriate penalty and this ought to, in my view, deprive a team breaking the rules to gain promotion.

I also think that it is a mighty big gamble to break the rules in the hope that the club will only get a slapped wrist. Malaga have already been fined 300,000 Euros and banned from UEFA club competitions should they qualify in the next 4 years.

It might be frustrating for us but I am convinced that BHA have chosen the correct course. I also think that their reent acquisitions will prove to be good ones.

We may not achieve promotion this year, but I have no doubt that we will get there very soon.
I've looked at some articles about FFP. In simple terms this season Championship clubs are permitted to make a loss of £5 million excluding money spent on infrastructure and youth development. Next season it is £3 million and it gradually reduces from then on. The penalties that can be applied for breaching FFP rules are as follows:- Reprimand / Warning Fine Deduction of Points Withholding of Revenue from UEFA competition Prohibition to register new players for UEFA competitions; A restriction on the number of players that a club may register for UEFA competitions Disqualification from a competition in progress Exclusion from future competitions Teams that win promotion to the Premier League having failed to adhere to the rules must pay a ‘Fair Play Tax’ on their losses which ranges from 1% on the first £100,000 to 100% on anything over £10m. Apparently QPR could be fined £60m. In the light of the above it is evident that a points deduction can be applied and that seems to me to be the most appropriate penalty and this ought to, in my view, deprive a team breaking the rules to gain promotion. I also think that it is a mighty big gamble to break the rules in the hope that the club will only get a slapped wrist. Malaga have already been fined 300,000 Euros and banned from UEFA club competitions should they qualify in the next 4 years. It might be frustrating for us but I am convinced that BHA have chosen the correct course. I also think that their reent acquisitions will prove to be good ones. We may not achieve promotion this year, but I have no doubt that we will get there very soon. Major Bloodboil
  • Score: 2

12:33pm Sat 1 Feb 14

VegasSeagull says...

If you ask yourselves this simple question, is it better for the club not to lose money each year, and then come up with the obvious answer, you can forget about the FFP and all it entails.
There is a balance point, tip one way and you lose money, tip the other way and you break even, that fine line between spending and income. As of right now our income from regular sources is not meeting our spending, not without selling players, so Barber and Burke have to find new revenue streams and or lower our spending, both on the pitch and off it.

Barber has already laid off various people and some supplier contracts have been renegotiated, two rabbits that he won't be able to pull out of the hat again. He did find some new sponsors and hopefully he will continue to do so, but even that revenue source will become harder as each year passes.
Burke appears to be doing his part, some wages have gone off the books coupled and sale fees have come in, and he has not rushed to spend, other than where we really needed to, and even then we didn't spend a lot.

So where do we find the money to reach that fine balance point, it has to be the emergence of young talent, home produced players that can deliver results and save us from having to spend upwards of a million every time we need new blood, the academy. That same source will also give us a few players that we can sell, those that are not quite what we need but maybe exactly what div one or two clubs want. And on occasion a real star that we just can't hold on to and will go for big money. This, as I see it, is our route to the top. Become self sufficient financially, have a facility that can, and will, produce players at little or no cost, and be very astute when it comes to buying and selling.
Fast forward, three or four years from now, do any of you think that our academy will not have thrown up a few decent prospects, will Solly, JFC, Hoskins and Ince all still be the players they are today, or will they be among the first names on the team sheet. Will there be others coming thru that we don't even have yet. Who, among our present young lads, will be the next record breaking sale, the Zaha sale.

You can try to buy success, it's been done before, but that route can lead to financial ruin, some clubs go broke even after making it to the top and maybe staying there for two or three years, these clubs did not produce the free home grown talent, they were forced to continue spending in the hope of survival at the top. We will not go down that route.

Support the club and players, be patient, have faith in Bloom and the board to do it the right way, and we will get there, Barber's, 'prem ready,' slogan is not the joke that some think it is.
If you ask yourselves this simple question, is it better for the club not to lose money each year, and then come up with the obvious answer, you can forget about the FFP and all it entails. There is a balance point, tip one way and you lose money, tip the other way and you break even, that fine line between spending and income. As of right now our income from regular sources is not meeting our spending, not without selling players, so Barber and Burke have to find new revenue streams and or lower our spending, both on the pitch and off it. Barber has already laid off various people and some supplier contracts have been renegotiated, two rabbits that he won't be able to pull out of the hat again. He did find some new sponsors and hopefully he will continue to do so, but even that revenue source will become harder as each year passes. Burke appears to be doing his part, some wages have gone off the books coupled and sale fees have come in, and he has not rushed to spend, other than where we really needed to, and even then we didn't spend a lot. So where do we find the money to reach that fine balance point, it has to be the emergence of young talent, home produced players that can deliver results and save us from having to spend upwards of a million every time we need new blood, the academy. That same source will also give us a few players that we can sell, those that are not quite what we need but maybe exactly what div one or two clubs want. And on occasion a real star that we just can't hold on to and will go for big money. This, as I see it, is our route to the top. Become self sufficient financially, have a facility that can, and will, produce players at little or no cost, and be very astute when it comes to buying and selling. Fast forward, three or four years from now, do any of you think that our academy will not have thrown up a few decent prospects, will Solly, JFC, Hoskins and Ince all still be the players they are today, or will they be among the first names on the team sheet. Will there be others coming thru that we don't even have yet. Who, among our present young lads, will be the next record breaking sale, the Zaha sale. You can try to buy success, it's been done before, but that route can lead to financial ruin, some clubs go broke even after making it to the top and maybe staying there for two or three years, these clubs did not produce the free home grown talent, they were forced to continue spending in the hope of survival at the top. We will not go down that route. Support the club and players, be patient, have faith in Bloom and the board to do it the right way, and we will get there, Barber's, 'prem ready,' slogan is not the joke that some think it is. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

12:42pm Sat 1 Feb 14

tinker111 says...

Don Pedro wrote:
Hopes were raised but then dashed. Little ambition here...
Not quite true we have a great stadia and training ground (UNDER WATER ???) team OMG one of very few hiding behind FFP but FANS IT IS DOWN TO YOU ????? NEXT SEASON .
JUST WISH W/W NJ would keep his MOUTH SHUT ABOUT WHO WAS ON RADAR (NIL)
[quote][p][bold]Don Pedro [/bold] wrote: Hopes were raised but then dashed. Little ambition here...[/p][/quote]Not quite true we have a great stadia and training ground (UNDER WATER ???) team OMG one of very few hiding behind FFP but FANS IT IS DOWN TO YOU ????? NEXT SEASON . JUST WISH W/W NJ would keep his MOUTH SHUT ABOUT WHO WAS ON RADAR (NIL) tinker111
  • Score: -1

3:44pm Sat 1 Feb 14

albionfan33 says...

the fa must implement the punishments that have been laid out or clubs like us can surely sue them for misconduct or something?
the fa must implement the punishments that have been laid out or clubs like us can surely sue them for misconduct or something? albionfan33
  • Score: 1

4:24pm Sat 1 Feb 14

cms/ulloa442 says...

FFP cant be used as excuse when coffers at least 3 million better off than month ago ,although squad should be good enough for promotion push would of liked to have seen center back coming in rather than striker ,only 3cbks for 2 spaces now 4 strikers for 1 spot. UTA
FFP cant be used as excuse when coffers at least 3 million better off than month ago ,although squad should be good enough for promotion push would of liked to have seen center back coming in rather than striker ,only 3cbks for 2 spaces now 4 strikers for 1 spot. UTA cms/ulloa442
  • Score: 0

4:59pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Major Bloodboil says...

Major Bloodboil wrote:
I've looked at some articles about FFP. In simple terms this season Championship clubs are permitted to make a loss of £5 million excluding money spent on infrastructure and youth development. Next season it is £3 million and it gradually reduces from then on.

The penalties that can be applied for breaching FFP rules are as follows:-
Reprimand / Warning
Fine
Deduction of Points
Withholding of Revenue from UEFA competition
Prohibition to register new players for UEFA competitions;
A restriction on the number of players that a club may register for UEFA competitions
Disqualification from a competition in progress
Exclusion from future competitions

Teams that win promotion to the Premier League having failed to adhere to the rules must pay a ‘Fair Play Tax’ on their losses which ranges from 1% on the first £100,000 to 100% on anything over £10m.

Apparently QPR could be fined £60m.

In the light of the above it is evident that a points deduction can be applied and that seems to me to be the most appropriate penalty and this ought to, in my view, deprive a team breaking the rules to gain promotion.

I also think that it is a mighty big gamble to break the rules in the hope that the club will only get a slapped wrist. Malaga have already been fined 300,000 Euros and banned from UEFA club competitions should they qualify in the next 4 years.

It might be frustrating for us but I am convinced that BHA have chosen the correct course. I also think that their reent acquisitions will prove to be good ones.

We may not achieve promotion this year, but I have no doubt that we will get there very soon.
Since writing the above I have done some further research and it is apparent that my initial post is incorrect in that The Championship has implemented their own version of the FFP rules. The sanctions are limited to a fine and a transfer ban, which is not ideal. Apologies for the misinformation. The date for determining who has fallen foul of the rules is December 2014.
You can find all the relevant information by following the link below.

http://www.financial
fairplay.co.uk/finan
cial-fair-play-expla
ined.php
[quote][p][bold]Major Bloodboil[/bold] wrote: I've looked at some articles about FFP. In simple terms this season Championship clubs are permitted to make a loss of £5 million excluding money spent on infrastructure and youth development. Next season it is £3 million and it gradually reduces from then on. The penalties that can be applied for breaching FFP rules are as follows:- Reprimand / Warning Fine Deduction of Points Withholding of Revenue from UEFA competition Prohibition to register new players for UEFA competitions; A restriction on the number of players that a club may register for UEFA competitions Disqualification from a competition in progress Exclusion from future competitions Teams that win promotion to the Premier League having failed to adhere to the rules must pay a ‘Fair Play Tax’ on their losses which ranges from 1% on the first £100,000 to 100% on anything over £10m. Apparently QPR could be fined £60m. In the light of the above it is evident that a points deduction can be applied and that seems to me to be the most appropriate penalty and this ought to, in my view, deprive a team breaking the rules to gain promotion. I also think that it is a mighty big gamble to break the rules in the hope that the club will only get a slapped wrist. Malaga have already been fined 300,000 Euros and banned from UEFA club competitions should they qualify in the next 4 years. It might be frustrating for us but I am convinced that BHA have chosen the correct course. I also think that their reent acquisitions will prove to be good ones. We may not achieve promotion this year, but I have no doubt that we will get there very soon.[/p][/quote]Since writing the above I have done some further research and it is apparent that my initial post is incorrect in that The Championship has implemented their own version of the FFP rules. The sanctions are limited to a fine and a transfer ban, which is not ideal. Apologies for the misinformation. The date for determining who has fallen foul of the rules is December 2014. You can find all the relevant information by following the link below. http://www.financial fairplay.co.uk/finan cial-fair-play-expla ined.php Major Bloodboil
  • Score: 1

7:11pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Captain Haddock says...

linzowen wrote:
Overall i am more than happy with the transfer window dealings, We have, when you examine it rationally, a great squad which is full of talent and real depth. Ok , so we lost Bridcutt, but for a fee of 2.5 or 3 million, we sold El-abd and Barker and we lost Crofts to injury. On the flip side we have got Stephens and Rodrigues for fees and we have CMS and Hoskins making their way back which is fantastic welcome news, i'm sure for us fans and also their team mates. Along with that we have the emerging talents of JFC, Ince and March and Chicksen and young players waiting in the wings like Monakana and so on. Andrews and Ward have been borrowed to to bolster things up this season without the club having to commit contractually. Considering the unsettling events that occurred during the close season and the unfortunate run of injuries we have sustained, i really believe the team has performed admirably and yes like every footie fan i too always want for us to do better, naturally ! To my mind Arsenal have been the model on which to develop a football club over the past few years. They needed a new stadium and recognised that having to borrow heavily would have a major impact on the playing budget so they pulled in the reigns somewhat and Wenger was very prudent with signings, amongst heavy criticism from fans generally. Allow for things to balance out and the debt has been repaid and you are starting to see the re-emergence of Arsenal in the top of the Premier league. Now, given the FFP regulations i would like to think the Albion board are thinking in a similar vein. one regret i have about the transfer window dealings is that we didn't sign Conway who it transpires has gone to Blackburn. I think he would have worked perfectly for Ulloa but it didn't get a chance. The Albion is a progressively focused club with realistic ambitions to succeed without over stretching itself. Given time we will all reap the benefits and rewards and enjoy greater success. Anybody remember when Alex Ferguson signed David May from Blackburn ? Well the rumour was that he dropped a clanger as he thought he was getting Colin Hendry, he'd got the two mixed up, Well Gus we have still got Rohan Ince, who is a far better prospect than Liam Bridcutt and that is not detracting from how i good i feel Bridcutt was for the club, no sour grapes from down here Gus ! UTA, always stay in a positive frame of mind, its the best way forward.
Superb post. Couldn't agree more.
[quote][p][bold]linzowen[/bold] wrote: Overall i am more than happy with the transfer window dealings, We have, when you examine it rationally, a great squad which is full of talent and real depth. Ok , so we lost Bridcutt, but for a fee of 2.5 or 3 million, we sold El-abd and Barker and we lost Crofts to injury. On the flip side we have got Stephens and Rodrigues for fees and we have CMS and Hoskins making their way back which is fantastic welcome news, i'm sure for us fans and also their team mates. Along with that we have the emerging talents of JFC, Ince and March and Chicksen and young players waiting in the wings like Monakana and so on. Andrews and Ward have been borrowed to to bolster things up this season without the club having to commit contractually. Considering the unsettling events that occurred during the close season and the unfortunate run of injuries we have sustained, i really believe the team has performed admirably and yes like every footie fan i too always want for us to do better, naturally ! To my mind Arsenal have been the model on which to develop a football club over the past few years. They needed a new stadium and recognised that having to borrow heavily would have a major impact on the playing budget so they pulled in the reigns somewhat and Wenger was very prudent with signings, amongst heavy criticism from fans generally. Allow for things to balance out and the debt has been repaid and you are starting to see the re-emergence of Arsenal in the top of the Premier league. Now, given the FFP regulations i would like to think the Albion board are thinking in a similar vein. one regret i have about the transfer window dealings is that we didn't sign Conway who it transpires has gone to Blackburn. I think he would have worked perfectly for Ulloa but it didn't get a chance. The Albion is a progressively focused club with realistic ambitions to succeed without over stretching itself. Given time we will all reap the benefits and rewards and enjoy greater success. Anybody remember when Alex Ferguson signed David May from Blackburn ? Well the rumour was that he dropped a clanger as he thought he was getting Colin Hendry, he'd got the two mixed up, Well Gus we have still got Rohan Ince, who is a far better prospect than Liam Bridcutt and that is not detracting from how i good i feel Bridcutt was for the club, no sour grapes from down here Gus ! UTA, always stay in a positive frame of mind, its the best way forward.[/p][/quote]Superb post. Couldn't agree more. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 0

8:49pm Sat 1 Feb 14

New Jersey Seagull says...

Recent discussions on the lack of transfer activity have centered on Financial Fair Play and the long-term financial stability of BHA. If you look at the information on the following website (http://swissramble.
blogspot.com/2013/08
/championship-financ
es-201112-numbers.ht
ml) you will see details of the clubs finances for the year 2011-2012 and it makes very interesting reading. The clubs income for that year was 22.1 million and the loss on the site is very similar to the one generally reported at 9.1 million. However, these reports show an item called other expenses of 13.8 million that like Leeds is far higher than any other club in the championship at that time and is explained by new stadium costs. In the rules of FFP, infrastructure costs are excluded from any calculations and as such the club seems to be in compliance.
One of the main functions of FFP is to act as a salary cap, as most clubs with serious financial problems spend more than their total income on player’s salaries. If we look at BHA’s expenditure on wages relative to income on that same site it is 66%, a significantly lower percentage than only two other clubs in the championship at that time. Perhaps that is a better explanation of why the club was less successful than others in signing players.
UTA
Recent discussions on the lack of transfer activity have centered on Financial Fair Play and the long-term financial stability of BHA. If you look at the information on the following website (http://swissramble. blogspot.com/2013/08 /championship-financ es-201112-numbers.ht ml) you will see details of the clubs finances for the year 2011-2012 and it makes very interesting reading. The clubs income for that year was 22.1 million and the loss on the site is very similar to the one generally reported at 9.1 million. However, these reports show an item called other expenses of 13.8 million that like Leeds is far higher than any other club in the championship at that time and is explained by new stadium costs. In the rules of FFP, infrastructure costs are excluded from any calculations and as such the club seems to be in compliance. One of the main functions of FFP is to act as a salary cap, as most clubs with serious financial problems spend more than their total income on player’s salaries. If we look at BHA’s expenditure on wages relative to income on that same site it is 66%, a significantly lower percentage than only two other clubs in the championship at that time. Perhaps that is a better explanation of why the club was less successful than others in signing players. UTA New Jersey Seagull
  • Score: 0

9:19pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Neville says...

New Jersey seagull
Under the rules of FFP for the Championship there is no salary cap requirement.
New Jersey seagull Under the rules of FFP for the Championship there is no salary cap requirement. Neville
  • Score: 0

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