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LuaLua in pick me plea to Albion boss

The Argus: Kazenga LuaLua is keen to start more games for Seagulls Kazenga LuaLua is keen to start more games for Seagulls

Kazenga LuaLua has issued a pick me plea to Albion head coach Oscar Garcia.

The explosive winger is eager to start more games after coming off the bench to set up Leo Ulloa’s winner in Tuesday’s home win against Leeds United.

LuaLua has been used as a substitute in the last three matches since starting the draw at Burnley at the end of January.

LuaLua told The Argus: “It’s been frustrating really. I want to play as many games as I can.

“It’s not nice when you are on the bench, you are desperate to play.

“It’s nice to make an impact but it’s not a word I really like.

“When people say ‘Kaz came on and made an impact’I am not going to lie, sometimes it gets me angry. I prefer to start.”

Oscar has to decide whether to restore LuaLua to the starting line-up for Monday night’s FA Cup fifth round tie against Hull at the Amex.

“Hopefully I’ll get my chance,” LuaLua said. “I’ll try to train well and if I get the chance take it.

“Anything can happen. It’s a difficult tie but we are playing at home and we have beaten Premier League teams here before, so we will give it our best shot.”

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5:28am Fri 14 Feb 14

WestStander17 says...

I think Lua Lua & Spanish Rodders will share that left wing position for the rest of the season with Solly March & Buckley doing the same on the right. Gives us decent options.

As I've said before, I have Kaz is working on his left foot crossing for hours and hours. If he can make himself a real threat beating the full-back on both feet, he will be very difficult to leave out. We all know his pace will worry people but he needs to be more consistent, especially on his left side.
I think Lua Lua & Spanish Rodders will share that left wing position for the rest of the season with Solly March & Buckley doing the same on the right. Gives us decent options. As I've said before, I have Kaz is working on his left foot crossing for hours and hours. If he can make himself a real threat beating the full-back on both feet, he will be very difficult to leave out. We all know his pace will worry people but he needs to be more consistent, especially on his left side. WestStander17
  • Score: 18

6:51am Fri 14 Feb 14

Albion fan in London says...

WestStander17 wrote:
I think Lua Lua & Spanish Rodders will share that left wing position for the rest of the season with Solly March & Buckley doing the same on the right. Gives us decent options.

As I've said before, I have Kaz is working on his left foot crossing for hours and hours. If he can make himself a real threat beating the full-back on both feet, he will be very difficult to leave out. We all know his pace will worry people but he needs to be more consistent, especially on his left side.
Is this you OG?
[quote][p][bold]WestStander17[/bold] wrote: I think Lua Lua & Spanish Rodders will share that left wing position for the rest of the season with Solly March & Buckley doing the same on the right. Gives us decent options. As I've said before, I have Kaz is working on his left foot crossing for hours and hours. If he can make himself a real threat beating the full-back on both feet, he will be very difficult to leave out. We all know his pace will worry people but he needs to be more consistent, especially on his left side.[/p][/quote]Is this you OG? Albion fan in London
  • Score: 9

7:30am Fri 14 Feb 14

Fozzyboy says...

If Kaz could last a game at the pace he goes at then he would start. Surely he must know that's why he doesn't start & is regarded as an impact player. There is probably no better player in our squad to come on as a sub.
If Kaz could last a game at the pace he goes at then he would start. Surely he must know that's why he doesn't start & is regarded as an impact player. There is probably no better player in our squad to come on as a sub. Fozzyboy
  • Score: 5

7:43am Fri 14 Feb 14

SMF20 says...

Kaz is a superb impact sub as he has proved but equally, he is a player that deserves to start.
Before his last injury he started a number of games and in my mind was our most potent threat and best player... Man of the match after man of the match performances were there week in week out and that left wing position was his.
His injury was a set back for sure but since his return he has shown the hunger and ability that our team needs week in week out.
For me and imho only, Kaz is a starter... I'd rather both he and Buckley started every game and helped give us a good lead before tiring than the other way where they come on to help us Nick something or even get an equaliser.

Great player Kaz... Let's use him as much as we can

Uta
Kaz is a superb impact sub as he has proved but equally, he is a player that deserves to start. Before his last injury he started a number of games and in my mind was our most potent threat and best player... Man of the match after man of the match performances were there week in week out and that left wing position was his. His injury was a set back for sure but since his return he has shown the hunger and ability that our team needs week in week out. For me and imho only, Kaz is a starter... I'd rather both he and Buckley started every game and helped give us a good lead before tiring than the other way where they come on to help us Nick something or even get an equaliser. Great player Kaz... Let's use him as much as we can Uta SMF20
  • Score: 23

8:34am Fri 14 Feb 14

ray23666 says...

I think LuaLua should start every week. He puts fear into right backs every time he plays. He's the only reall attacking player we have.
My main concern is reading that he's out of contract at the end of this season......does this mean he's going to go as he's now frustrated not starting each week?
I think LuaLua should start every week. He puts fear into right backs every time he plays. He's the only reall attacking player we have. My main concern is reading that he's out of contract at the end of this season......does this mean he's going to go as he's now frustrated not starting each week? ray23666
  • Score: 12

8:48am Fri 14 Feb 14

Steveg1958 says...

Looks like another player will go in the summer then, quite obviously frustrated and wanting more game time. Didn't Lita say "I want to play" and didn't Conway say he'd love to come back ? and look what happened to them.
Looks like another player will go in the summer then, quite obviously frustrated and wanting more game time. Didn't Lita say "I want to play" and didn't Conway say he'd love to come back ? and look what happened to them. Steveg1958
  • Score: -8

8:53am Fri 14 Feb 14

Yorkieseagull says...

"impact is not a word I like" - here's some more for you Kaz, "knee injury, silly yellow card, fatigue, complacency, poor end product and thinly-veiled attempt to alert other clubs to a potentially unsettled star player". I'm not that keen on those words either. Trust the coach would be my suggestion.
"impact is not a word I like" - here's some more for you Kaz, "knee injury, silly yellow card, fatigue, complacency, poor end product and thinly-veiled attempt to alert other clubs to a potentially unsettled star player". I'm not that keen on those words either. Trust the coach would be my suggestion. Yorkieseagull
  • Score: -1

9:31am Fri 14 Feb 14

WestStander17 says...

Albion fan in London wrote:
WestStander17 wrote:
I think Lua Lua & Spanish Rodders will share that left wing position for the rest of the season with Solly March & Buckley doing the same on the right. Gives us decent options.

As I've said before, I have Kaz is working on his left foot crossing for hours and hours. If he can make himself a real threat beating the full-back on both feet, he will be very difficult to leave out. We all know his pace will worry people but he needs to be more consistent, especially on his left side.
Is this you OG?
I wish!

Sorry, that was meant to be "I hope Kaz is working....".

It was very early!
[quote][p][bold]Albion fan in London[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WestStander17[/bold] wrote: I think Lua Lua & Spanish Rodders will share that left wing position for the rest of the season with Solly March & Buckley doing the same on the right. Gives us decent options. As I've said before, I have Kaz is working on his left foot crossing for hours and hours. If he can make himself a real threat beating the full-back on both feet, he will be very difficult to leave out. We all know his pace will worry people but he needs to be more consistent, especially on his left side.[/p][/quote]Is this you OG?[/p][/quote]I wish! Sorry, that was meant to be "I hope Kaz is working....". It was very early! WestStander17
  • Score: 1

9:43am Fri 14 Feb 14

Baldseagull says...

ray23666 wrote:
I think LuaLua should start every week. He puts fear into right backs every time he plays. He's the only reall attacking player we have.
My main concern is reading that he's out of contract at the end of this season......does this mean he's going to go as he's now frustrated not starting each week?
There is an extension option on his contract so we will not be losing him unless we want to, he has spent a lot of time in treatment since coming here and it may be that he has to be either a regular sub or an every other week starter for us, just to stop him from breaking down.
[quote][p][bold]ray23666[/bold] wrote: I think LuaLua should start every week. He puts fear into right backs every time he plays. He's the only reall attacking player we have. My main concern is reading that he's out of contract at the end of this season......does this mean he's going to go as he's now frustrated not starting each week?[/p][/quote]There is an extension option on his contract so we will not be losing him unless we want to, he has spent a lot of time in treatment since coming here and it may be that he has to be either a regular sub or an every other week starter for us, just to stop him from breaking down. Baldseagull
  • Score: 4

9:45am Fri 14 Feb 14

WestStander17 says...

SMF20 wrote:
Kaz is a superb impact sub as he has proved but equally, he is a player that deserves to start.
Before his last injury he started a number of games and in my mind was our most potent threat and best player... Man of the match after man of the match performances were there week in week out and that left wing position was his.
His injury was a set back for sure but since his return he has shown the hunger and ability that our team needs week in week out.
For me and imho only, Kaz is a starter... I'd rather both he and Buckley started every game and helped give us a good lead before tiring than the other way where they come on to help us Nick something or even get an equaliser.

Great player Kaz... Let's use him as much as we can

Uta
I think its very easy to confuse "great player" and "exciting player".

Sure, Kaz is an exciting player. Its great when he runs at terrified defenders or cuts inside to smash it goalwards. However, a great player would consistently provide an end product from the opportunities he creates. Kaz doesn't do this yet. He's getting better, much better, but he isn't a "great" player yet.

If he works hard, he could well get there and hopefully with us.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Kaz is a superb impact sub as he has proved but equally, he is a player that deserves to start. Before his last injury he started a number of games and in my mind was our most potent threat and best player... Man of the match after man of the match performances were there week in week out and that left wing position was his. His injury was a set back for sure but since his return he has shown the hunger and ability that our team needs week in week out. For me and imho only, Kaz is a starter... I'd rather both he and Buckley started every game and helped give us a good lead before tiring than the other way where they come on to help us Nick something or even get an equaliser. Great player Kaz... Let's use him as much as we can Uta[/p][/quote]I think its very easy to confuse "great player" and "exciting player". Sure, Kaz is an exciting player. Its great when he runs at terrified defenders or cuts inside to smash it goalwards. However, a great player would consistently provide an end product from the opportunities he creates. Kaz doesn't do this yet. He's getting better, much better, but he isn't a "great" player yet. If he works hard, he could well get there and hopefully with us. WestStander17
  • Score: 3

10:32am Fri 14 Feb 14

SMF20 says...

WestStander17 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
Kaz is a superb impact sub as he has proved but equally, he is a player that deserves to start.
Before his last injury he started a number of games and in my mind was our most potent threat and best player... Man of the match after man of the match performances were there week in week out and that left wing position was his.
His injury was a set back for sure but since his return he has shown the hunger and ability that our team needs week in week out.
For me and imho only, Kaz is a starter... I'd rather both he and Buckley started every game and helped give us a good lead before tiring than the other way where they come on to help us Nick something or even get an equaliser.

Great player Kaz... Let's use him as much as we can

Uta
I think its very easy to confuse "great player" and "exciting player".

Sure, Kaz is an exciting player. Its great when he runs at terrified defenders or cuts inside to smash it goalwards. However, a great player would consistently provide an end product from the opportunities he creates. Kaz doesn't do this yet. He's getting better, much better, but he isn't a "great" player yet.

If he works hard, he could well get there and hopefully with us.
I see your point but I'll stick with great player because for me, he is.

Yes his end product is sometimes woeful but equally, he has changed many games where he has been introduced and was also directly responsible for the assists that led to the winning goals against Leeds and Doncaster.
I'd also like to think that he helps us defensively in that his very presence has fullbacks thinking twice before pushing forward whilst playing against him.
Against Leeds, one of their most attacking threats was the right back Byram... After Kaz was introduced, he didn't venture forward once.

Each to their own my friend.
[quote][p][bold]WestStander17[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Kaz is a superb impact sub as he has proved but equally, he is a player that deserves to start. Before his last injury he started a number of games and in my mind was our most potent threat and best player... Man of the match after man of the match performances were there week in week out and that left wing position was his. His injury was a set back for sure but since his return he has shown the hunger and ability that our team needs week in week out. For me and imho only, Kaz is a starter... I'd rather both he and Buckley started every game and helped give us a good lead before tiring than the other way where they come on to help us Nick something or even get an equaliser. Great player Kaz... Let's use him as much as we can Uta[/p][/quote]I think its very easy to confuse "great player" and "exciting player". Sure, Kaz is an exciting player. Its great when he runs at terrified defenders or cuts inside to smash it goalwards. However, a great player would consistently provide an end product from the opportunities he creates. Kaz doesn't do this yet. He's getting better, much better, but he isn't a "great" player yet. If he works hard, he could well get there and hopefully with us.[/p][/quote]I see your point but I'll stick with great player because for me, he is. Yes his end product is sometimes woeful but equally, he has changed many games where he has been introduced and was also directly responsible for the assists that led to the winning goals against Leeds and Doncaster. I'd also like to think that he helps us defensively in that his very presence has fullbacks thinking twice before pushing forward whilst playing against him. Against Leeds, one of their most attacking threats was the right back Byram... After Kaz was introduced, he didn't venture forward once. Each to their own my friend. SMF20
  • Score: 3

11:40am Fri 14 Feb 14

lonegull says...

Started most weeks at the Withdean.
In terms of final ball he can be a bit hit and miss but when he's on the pitch 2 or 3 of the opposition are pre-occupied. He might not even get the ball but others get the space to show their end product. If he's properly fit he must play.
Started most weeks at the Withdean. In terms of final ball he can be a bit hit and miss but when he's on the pitch 2 or 3 of the opposition are pre-occupied. He might not even get the ball but others get the space to show their end product. If he's properly fit he must play. lonegull
  • Score: 5

1:03pm Fri 14 Feb 14

gilbertthecat says...

lonegull wrote:
Started most weeks at the Withdean.
In terms of final ball he can be a bit hit and miss but when he's on the pitch 2 or 3 of the opposition are pre-occupied. He might not even get the ball but others get the space to show their end product. If he's properly fit he must play.
Agree with how he keeps opposition occupied. Leeds often had 3 on him and their full back hardly got forward, especially after the goal. I think it's good to have options on both wings as we seem to have now. I guess it's personal preference as to who should be in the starting line up but the fact is that for every starter there is a disappointed bench sitter. If it isn't KLL it would be another and then someone on here would pop up and say "Another player that will want to go, woa is me".

Look at the quality of bench players in the Prem (and yes I do know they get lots more money) surely they want to play games as well. You don't see them leaving in droves though.

Is the grass always greener? Ask Barnes how it's going at Burnley.
[quote][p][bold]lonegull[/bold] wrote: Started most weeks at the Withdean. In terms of final ball he can be a bit hit and miss but when he's on the pitch 2 or 3 of the opposition are pre-occupied. He might not even get the ball but others get the space to show their end product. If he's properly fit he must play.[/p][/quote]Agree with how he keeps opposition occupied. Leeds often had 3 on him and their full back hardly got forward, especially after the goal. I think it's good to have options on both wings as we seem to have now. I guess it's personal preference as to who should be in the starting line up but the fact is that for every starter there is a disappointed bench sitter. If it isn't KLL it would be another and then someone on here would pop up and say "Another player that will want to go, woa is me". Look at the quality of bench players in the Prem (and yes I do know they get lots more money) surely they want to play games as well. You don't see them leaving in droves though. Is the grass always greener? Ask Barnes how it's going at Burnley. gilbertthecat
  • Score: 3

2:12pm Fri 14 Feb 14

WiseOldSeagull says...

Kaz has added much more to his game since he signed on permanent terms. He tracks back, uses the ball well when not running at speed and even holds the ball up well retaining possession. All attributes that were missing in L1.

I would be inclined to play him from the start against Hull. Would be nice to get our noses in front early on to unsettle them.

There will be rotation for this game as there are a number of players that deserve their chance. Not sure about the lone striker for Monday. In some ways it would be good to give Obika the chance but can he perform that role, and is the FA Cup 5th round the right arena for him to prove it?

Having said that I would rest Kuz, Upson, Ward, Ince, Bruno, Ulloa, Solly and Orlandi but make sure some are on the bench incase we are struggling. Therefore my team for Monday looks like this:

Brez
Calde, Greer, Dunk, Chicksen
Andrews
Agustien, JFC
Buckley, Obika, Lua Lua

Kuz, Bruno, Upson, Ince, Orlandi, March, Ulloa
Kaz has added much more to his game since he signed on permanent terms. He tracks back, uses the ball well when not running at speed and even holds the ball up well retaining possession. All attributes that were missing in L1. I would be inclined to play him from the start against Hull. Would be nice to get our noses in front early on to unsettle them. There will be rotation for this game as there are a number of players that deserve their chance. Not sure about the lone striker for Monday. In some ways it would be good to give Obika the chance but can he perform that role, and is the FA Cup 5th round the right arena for him to prove it? Having said that I would rest Kuz, Upson, Ward, Ince, Bruno, Ulloa, Solly and Orlandi but make sure some are on the bench incase we are struggling. Therefore my team for Monday looks like this: Brez Calde, Greer, Dunk, Chicksen Andrews Agustien, JFC Buckley, Obika, Lua Lua Kuz, Bruno, Upson, Ince, Orlandi, March, Ulloa WiseOldSeagull
  • Score: 1

3:22pm Fri 14 Feb 14

VegasSeagull says...

When Kaz admits to feeling, 'angry,' when people talk of his, 'impact,' from the bench, I think he is selling himself short. I doubt that there is another player in our squad that can come from the bench and turn a game on it's head. At all levels substitutes change and win matches, for us, and IMHO, he is one of a kind and he should revel in his status as a match winner.
There is a reason for him being a sub, the fact is he just doesn't produce the goods over 90 minutes enough times to force his way into the starting eleven.
When he comes on as a sub we expect the unexpected from him, and he gets it done, over 90 minutes the opposition work him out and the unexpected is no longer a weapon.
Liverpool's Fairclough is the best example of a, 'super sub,' he built his career on being so, if Kaz has the career that he had he should consider himself a very lucky man, maybe we will still be saying his name years after he has retired.
When Kaz admits to feeling, 'angry,' when people talk of his, 'impact,' from the bench, I think he is selling himself short. I doubt that there is another player in our squad that can come from the bench and turn a game on it's head. At all levels substitutes change and win matches, for us, and IMHO, he is one of a kind and he should revel in his status as a match winner. There is a reason for him being a sub, the fact is he just doesn't produce the goods over 90 minutes enough times to force his way into the starting eleven. When he comes on as a sub we expect the unexpected from him, and he gets it done, over 90 minutes the opposition work him out and the unexpected is no longer a weapon. Liverpool's Fairclough is the best example of a, 'super sub,' he built his career on being so, if Kaz has the career that he had he should consider himself a very lucky man, maybe we will still be saying his name years after he has retired. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

4:17pm Fri 14 Feb 14

WiseOldSeagull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
When Kaz admits to feeling, 'angry,' when people talk of his, 'impact,' from the bench, I think he is selling himself short. I doubt that there is another player in our squad that can come from the bench and turn a game on it's head. At all levels substitutes change and win matches, for us, and IMHO, he is one of a kind and he should revel in his status as a match winner.
There is a reason for him being a sub, the fact is he just doesn't produce the goods over 90 minutes enough times to force his way into the starting eleven.
When he comes on as a sub we expect the unexpected from him, and he gets it done, over 90 minutes the opposition work him out and the unexpected is no longer a weapon.
Liverpool's Fairclough is the best example of a, 'super sub,' he built his career on being so, if Kaz has the career that he had he should consider himself a very lucky man, maybe we will still be saying his name years after he has retired.
Hi Vegas,

I kind of agree. I just wonder why it wouldn't work with him playing from the start. He surely would have an impact whether it be from minute 1 or from minute 60. Where we have struggled is to make that impact early on in a game. Therfore my wish for hime to play from the off on Monday. Afterall that's what exciting premier league teams do. Get at it right away.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: When Kaz admits to feeling, 'angry,' when people talk of his, 'impact,' from the bench, I think he is selling himself short. I doubt that there is another player in our squad that can come from the bench and turn a game on it's head. At all levels substitutes change and win matches, for us, and IMHO, he is one of a kind and he should revel in his status as a match winner. There is a reason for him being a sub, the fact is he just doesn't produce the goods over 90 minutes enough times to force his way into the starting eleven. When he comes on as a sub we expect the unexpected from him, and he gets it done, over 90 minutes the opposition work him out and the unexpected is no longer a weapon. Liverpool's Fairclough is the best example of a, 'super sub,' he built his career on being so, if Kaz has the career that he had he should consider himself a very lucky man, maybe we will still be saying his name years after he has retired.[/p][/quote]Hi Vegas, I kind of agree. I just wonder why it wouldn't work with him playing from the start. He surely would have an impact whether it be from minute 1 or from minute 60. Where we have struggled is to make that impact early on in a game. Therfore my wish for hime to play from the off on Monday. Afterall that's what exciting premier league teams do. Get at it right away. WiseOldSeagull
  • Score: 0

4:55pm Fri 14 Feb 14

VegasSeagull says...

WiseOldSeagull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
When Kaz admits to feeling, 'angry,' when people talk of his, 'impact,' from the bench, I think he is selling himself short. I doubt that there is another player in our squad that can come from the bench and turn a game on it's head. At all levels substitutes change and win matches, for us, and IMHO, he is one of a kind and he should revel in his status as a match winner.
There is a reason for him being a sub, the fact is he just doesn't produce the goods over 90 minutes enough times to force his way into the starting eleven.
When he comes on as a sub we expect the unexpected from him, and he gets it done, over 90 minutes the opposition work him out and the unexpected is no longer a weapon.
Liverpool's Fairclough is the best example of a, 'super sub,' he built his career on being so, if Kaz has the career that he had he should consider himself a very lucky man, maybe we will still be saying his name years after he has retired.
Hi Vegas,

I kind of agree. I just wonder why it wouldn't work with him playing from the start. He surely would have an impact whether it be from minute 1 or from minute 60. Where we have struggled is to make that impact early on in a game. Therfore my wish for hime to play from the off on Monday. Afterall that's what exciting premier league teams do. Get at it right away.
Hi WSO, I think my opinion on Kaz will place me in a very small minority, I am just not sure that Kaz has enough bullets to fire for a 90 minute contribution. Kaz does several things at an, 'ok,' level, from the little I have seen of him over the last two seasons, and I have seen him play, 'live,' at the Amex. When he comes on as a sub he is so full eagerness and determination, he makes a difference, and he is up against some tiring players. When playing from the get go, when his opponents are fresh, for me he just loses some of his edge. The very fact that he plays so hard to get a starting place is exactly what makes him such a dangerous sub to bring on, dangerous to the opposition that is.
I think that there is still a question as to whether he can consistently play 90 minutes, his fitness levels have always been a question for me, but the threat level he brings at 60 minutes is there for all to see, it's real. When I say, 'fitness,' I am not talking of having enough puff, I am more thinking whether his body can take it.
[quote][p][bold]WiseOldSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: When Kaz admits to feeling, 'angry,' when people talk of his, 'impact,' from the bench, I think he is selling himself short. I doubt that there is another player in our squad that can come from the bench and turn a game on it's head. At all levels substitutes change and win matches, for us, and IMHO, he is one of a kind and he should revel in his status as a match winner. There is a reason for him being a sub, the fact is he just doesn't produce the goods over 90 minutes enough times to force his way into the starting eleven. When he comes on as a sub we expect the unexpected from him, and he gets it done, over 90 minutes the opposition work him out and the unexpected is no longer a weapon. Liverpool's Fairclough is the best example of a, 'super sub,' he built his career on being so, if Kaz has the career that he had he should consider himself a very lucky man, maybe we will still be saying his name years after he has retired.[/p][/quote]Hi Vegas, I kind of agree. I just wonder why it wouldn't work with him playing from the start. He surely would have an impact whether it be from minute 1 or from minute 60. Where we have struggled is to make that impact early on in a game. Therfore my wish for hime to play from the off on Monday. Afterall that's what exciting premier league teams do. Get at it right away.[/p][/quote]Hi WSO, I think my opinion on Kaz will place me in a very small minority, I am just not sure that Kaz has enough bullets to fire for a 90 minute contribution. Kaz does several things at an, 'ok,' level, from the little I have seen of him over the last two seasons, and I have seen him play, 'live,' at the Amex. When he comes on as a sub he is so full eagerness and determination, he makes a difference, and he is up against some tiring players. When playing from the get go, when his opponents are fresh, for me he just loses some of his edge. The very fact that he plays so hard to get a starting place is exactly what makes him such a dangerous sub to bring on, dangerous to the opposition that is. I think that there is still a question as to whether he can consistently play 90 minutes, his fitness levels have always been a question for me, but the threat level he brings at 60 minutes is there for all to see, it's real. When I say, 'fitness,' I am not talking of having enough puff, I am more thinking whether his body can take it. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

5:33pm Fri 14 Feb 14

WiseOldSeagull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
WiseOldSeagull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
When Kaz admits to feeling, 'angry,' when people talk of his, 'impact,' from the bench, I think he is selling himself short. I doubt that there is another player in our squad that can come from the bench and turn a game on it's head. At all levels substitutes change and win matches, for us, and IMHO, he is one of a kind and he should revel in his status as a match winner.
There is a reason for him being a sub, the fact is he just doesn't produce the goods over 90 minutes enough times to force his way into the starting eleven.
When he comes on as a sub we expect the unexpected from him, and he gets it done, over 90 minutes the opposition work him out and the unexpected is no longer a weapon.
Liverpool's Fairclough is the best example of a, 'super sub,' he built his career on being so, if Kaz has the career that he had he should consider himself a very lucky man, maybe we will still be saying his name years after he has retired.
Hi Vegas,

I kind of agree. I just wonder why it wouldn't work with him playing from the start. He surely would have an impact whether it be from minute 1 or from minute 60. Where we have struggled is to make that impact early on in a game. Therfore my wish for hime to play from the off on Monday. Afterall that's what exciting premier league teams do. Get at it right away.
Hi WSO, I think my opinion on Kaz will place me in a very small minority, I am just not sure that Kaz has enough bullets to fire for a 90 minute contribution. Kaz does several things at an, 'ok,' level, from the little I have seen of him over the last two seasons, and I have seen him play, 'live,' at the Amex. When he comes on as a sub he is so full eagerness and determination, he makes a difference, and he is up against some tiring players. When playing from the get go, when his opponents are fresh, for me he just loses some of his edge. The very fact that he plays so hard to get a starting place is exactly what makes him such a dangerous sub to bring on, dangerous to the opposition that is.
I think that there is still a question as to whether he can consistently play 90 minutes, his fitness levels have always been a question for me, but the threat level he brings at 60 minutes is there for all to see, it's real. When I say, 'fitness,' I am not talking of having enough puff, I am more thinking whether his body can take it.
Yep I get what you're saying but maybe the time is right to give him the opportunity to give the 90 a go. Afteralll Rodders could be waiting in the wings to take over if he fades. It's nice that we can debate all the options now that there are so many fit players.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WiseOldSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: When Kaz admits to feeling, 'angry,' when people talk of his, 'impact,' from the bench, I think he is selling himself short. I doubt that there is another player in our squad that can come from the bench and turn a game on it's head. At all levels substitutes change and win matches, for us, and IMHO, he is one of a kind and he should revel in his status as a match winner. There is a reason for him being a sub, the fact is he just doesn't produce the goods over 90 minutes enough times to force his way into the starting eleven. When he comes on as a sub we expect the unexpected from him, and he gets it done, over 90 minutes the opposition work him out and the unexpected is no longer a weapon. Liverpool's Fairclough is the best example of a, 'super sub,' he built his career on being so, if Kaz has the career that he had he should consider himself a very lucky man, maybe we will still be saying his name years after he has retired.[/p][/quote]Hi Vegas, I kind of agree. I just wonder why it wouldn't work with him playing from the start. He surely would have an impact whether it be from minute 1 or from minute 60. Where we have struggled is to make that impact early on in a game. Therfore my wish for hime to play from the off on Monday. Afterall that's what exciting premier league teams do. Get at it right away.[/p][/quote]Hi WSO, I think my opinion on Kaz will place me in a very small minority, I am just not sure that Kaz has enough bullets to fire for a 90 minute contribution. Kaz does several things at an, 'ok,' level, from the little I have seen of him over the last two seasons, and I have seen him play, 'live,' at the Amex. When he comes on as a sub he is so full eagerness and determination, he makes a difference, and he is up against some tiring players. When playing from the get go, when his opponents are fresh, for me he just loses some of his edge. The very fact that he plays so hard to get a starting place is exactly what makes him such a dangerous sub to bring on, dangerous to the opposition that is. I think that there is still a question as to whether he can consistently play 90 minutes, his fitness levels have always been a question for me, but the threat level he brings at 60 minutes is there for all to see, it's real. When I say, 'fitness,' I am not talking of having enough puff, I am more thinking whether his body can take it.[/p][/quote]Yep I get what you're saying but maybe the time is right to give him the opportunity to give the 90 a go. Afteralll Rodders could be waiting in the wings to take over if he fades. It's nice that we can debate all the options now that there are so many fit players. WiseOldSeagull
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5:59pm Fri 14 Feb 14

VegasSeagull says...

WiseOldSeagull, the last sentence of your reply is so true and the question, why do some think that making some changes, 'weakens,' our team?
We didn't do much inward business in the window but look at our squad, not a lot is missing. Players returning from injury will, we hope, challenge for places, but again the fact that they can goes to prove that we have a good squad.
People offer up their idea of what line up we should have, what our best eleven is, but I don't see how we can have a, 'best eleven,' what we do have is an eleven that on any given day can change by maybe three players but still be considered as our, 'best eleven' in some people's eyes.

Bruno or Calde, a coin flip. Buckley of Solly, fast becoming a coin flip. Kemmy or Orlandi, there are those that would prefer either. Kaz to start or Kaz as an impact sub, again those for and against both options.
Play Ince and Andrews, some prefer that combination of youth and experience, others would prefer Andrews to be replaced by a player with a tad more flair in midfield and are willing to give up the extra defensive qualities that Andrews brings.

I don't know what our best eleven is, I am not even sure that we have one, but I do think that we have flexibility within the squad to put out a strong eleven based on the attributes of our opponents on any given day.
WiseOldSeagull, the last sentence of your reply is so true and the question, why do some think that making some changes, 'weakens,' our team? We didn't do much inward business in the window but look at our squad, not a lot is missing. Players returning from injury will, we hope, challenge for places, but again the fact that they can goes to prove that we have a good squad. People offer up their idea of what line up we should have, what our best eleven is, but I don't see how we can have a, 'best eleven,' what we do have is an eleven that on any given day can change by maybe three players but still be considered as our, 'best eleven' in some people's eyes. Bruno or Calde, a coin flip. Buckley of Solly, fast becoming a coin flip. Kemmy or Orlandi, there are those that would prefer either. Kaz to start or Kaz as an impact sub, again those for and against both options. Play Ince and Andrews, some prefer that combination of youth and experience, others would prefer Andrews to be replaced by a player with a tad more flair in midfield and are willing to give up the extra defensive qualities that Andrews brings. I don't know what our best eleven is, I am not even sure that we have one, but I do think that we have flexibility within the squad to put out a strong eleven based on the attributes of our opponents on any given day. VegasSeagull
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6:34pm Fri 14 Feb 14

WiseOldSeagull says...

Very true Vegas. It's so difficult to know who the best 11 is and it can change at any given moment due to injuries, lack of form, the opposition and the competition (Cup or League). Oscar is of course the best judge as he sees all the players during the week and can make a decision based on more info than we will ever have. What we as fans do is watch the matchday performance and retrospectively offer up an opinion. That is why the buck stops with the manager/head coach.

Here's a thought. To stop the rediculous managerial merry-go-round lets have a fans vote on what the team should be for the next match directly after every match. The coach then coaches that team throughout the week and the blame is collective if we lose.
Very true Vegas. It's so difficult to know who the best 11 is and it can change at any given moment due to injuries, lack of form, the opposition and the competition (Cup or League). Oscar is of course the best judge as he sees all the players during the week and can make a decision based on more info than we will ever have. What we as fans do is watch the matchday performance and retrospectively offer up an opinion. That is why the buck stops with the manager/head coach. Here's a thought. To stop the rediculous managerial merry-go-round lets have a fans vote on what the team should be for the next match directly after every match. The coach then coaches that team throughout the week and the blame is collective if we lose. WiseOldSeagull
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10:05pm Fri 14 Feb 14

VegasSeagull says...

WiseOldSeagull wrote:
Very true Vegas. It's so difficult to know who the best 11 is and it can change at any given moment due to injuries, lack of form, the opposition and the competition (Cup or League). Oscar is of course the best judge as he sees all the players during the week and can make a decision based on more info than we will ever have. What we as fans do is watch the matchday performance and retrospectively offer up an opinion. That is why the buck stops with the manager/head coach.

Here's a thought. To stop the rediculous managerial merry-go-round lets have a fans vote on what the team should be for the next match directly after every match. The coach then coaches that team throughout the week and the blame is collective if we lose.
Majority rules eh, now that's a novel thought.

The only thing I would like to see is that those that complain, 'after,' the match, should offer their starting eleven before we know Oscar's and the match result. So many come on here after the result is known and then say that the eleven were wrong, or the wrong subs were used. I can pick the winner of every race once the horses have past the post.
[quote][p][bold]WiseOldSeagull[/bold] wrote: Very true Vegas. It's so difficult to know who the best 11 is and it can change at any given moment due to injuries, lack of form, the opposition and the competition (Cup or League). Oscar is of course the best judge as he sees all the players during the week and can make a decision based on more info than we will ever have. What we as fans do is watch the matchday performance and retrospectively offer up an opinion. That is why the buck stops with the manager/head coach. Here's a thought. To stop the rediculous managerial merry-go-round lets have a fans vote on what the team should be for the next match directly after every match. The coach then coaches that team throughout the week and the blame is collective if we lose.[/p][/quote]Majority rules eh, now that's a novel thought. The only thing I would like to see is that those that complain, 'after,' the match, should offer their starting eleven before we know Oscar's and the match result. So many come on here after the result is known and then say that the eleven were wrong, or the wrong subs were used. I can pick the winner of every race once the horses have past the post. VegasSeagull
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