Ulloa strikes again - but Albion bow out

The Argus: Leo Ulloa scores again but it's not enough (Photo Simon Dack) Leo Ulloa scores again but it's not enough (Photo Simon Dack)

Albion’s FA Cup run is over – despite a second half fightback at Hull tonight.

Leo Ulloa’s fifth goal in as many games inspired hope but was not enough to head off defeat in their fifth-round replay.

Instead, the Tigers go through to meet Sunderland after scruffy first-half goals from Curtis Davies and Robert Koren secured a 2-1 win.

Davies met a 14th-minute corner which a header which drifted gently inside the post.

And Koren added a 36th-minute free-kick which seemed to take a slight deflection off Stephen Ward.

Albion were toothless in the first half but improved in the second.

Lewis Dunk thumped a shot against the underside of the bar.

Then Ulloa headed home a superb inswinging free-kick from David Lopez midway through the half.

Home fans in a crowd of 10,795 were on edge after that.

But the 486 among them supporting the away side did not have an equaliser to cheer - although Steve Harper struggled to hold Solly March's shot deep in added time.

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9:48pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Far gull says...

Duncan Thicket where are you ? :-)
This type of performance was to be expected following the departure of albion players with passion. How is Gary Dicker worse than Andrews people ?How are we to keep leo and Ince ? Best that could happen is the pair are injured for rest of this season.
Adam el abd worse than Dunk.? At least their was fun in watching Adam.
Oscar over to you for a close season rebuild with your choices please not Burke who has only got us a bunch of burkes.
Duncan Thicket where are you ? :-) This type of performance was to be expected following the departure of albion players with passion. How is Gary Dicker worse than Andrews people ?How are we to keep leo and Ince ? Best that could happen is the pair are injured for rest of this season. Adam el abd worse than Dunk.? At least their was fun in watching Adam. Oscar over to you for a close season rebuild with your choices please not Burke who has only got us a bunch of burkes. Far gull

9:48pm Mon 24 Feb 14

albion64 says...

Look, if we really wanted to win this tie, we could of. Putting in reserve team players against a prem team was never gonna work. Brezovan did absolutely no favours for his team mates. Whether the 2nd goal was deflected or not, he showed no presence from the start. He's nearly 7ft tall. for fecks sake.
Well done to the 300 who made the trip. UTA
Look, if we really wanted to win this tie, we could of. Putting in reserve team players against a prem team was never gonna work. Brezovan did absolutely no favours for his team mates. Whether the 2nd goal was deflected or not, he showed no presence from the start. He's nearly 7ft tall. for fecks sake. Well done to the 300 who made the trip. UTA albion64

9:49pm Mon 24 Feb 14

happyguy25 says...

Brezovan was rubbish tonight si be thrown out ad he can not take conttol of his 18 yard box and when the outfield players have no confidence in there keeper it wad only one result.
we should play 2 strikers up front to help ulloa out and 2 wide players forget the 4-1-4-1system time for some of the players to step up and get us in the play offs or we could miss out this year.
We need to play our best in every game now for get the rotation of players.
Brezovan was rubbish tonight si be thrown out ad he can not take conttol of his 18 yard box and when the outfield players have no confidence in there keeper it wad only one result. we should play 2 strikers up front to help ulloa out and 2 wide players forget the 4-1-4-1system time for some of the players to step up and get us in the play offs or we could miss out this year. We need to play our best in every game now for get the rotation of players. happyguy25

9:51pm Mon 24 Feb 14

mark by the sea says...

Very one sided game, dunk chipping the ball forward and giving it away .
Jfc is the one who looked totally out of his depth,
On a plus side ulloa again class.
Ward really solid once lua lua came on and supported him
Ince. Was excellent considering he needed to look for a player to pass too.
Andrews one or two nice touches .., but the vanishing man .
March, not there yet, but a talent who with good coaching will be a massive player for us.
Can someone get elabd on the phone and ask him for the taxi number!
This guy is playing for a contract and looked like he was asleep.
Caldi played his heart out and did ok.
Dave 2 not sure what I can say after that one.
Very one sided game, dunk chipping the ball forward and giving it away . Jfc is the one who looked totally out of his depth, On a plus side ulloa again class. Ward really solid once lua lua came on and supported him Ince. Was excellent considering he needed to look for a player to pass too. Andrews one or two nice touches .., but the vanishing man . March, not there yet, but a talent who with good coaching will be a massive player for us. Can someone get elabd on the phone and ask him for the taxi number! This guy is playing for a contract and looked like he was asleep. Caldi played his heart out and did ok. Dave 2 not sure what I can say after that one. mark by the sea

9:53pm Mon 24 Feb 14

mark by the sea says...

Taxi for brez
Taxi for brez mark by the sea

9:53pm Mon 24 Feb 14

bruce beckett says...

Not a big Robbie Savage fan but for once, I agree with him. Why bother playing an apparently injured Ulloa for 90-plus minutes when you're going to put Coko the Clown in goal?

You either go for it 100 per cent or you don't.

Let's hope Ince's injury isn't too seriously because without him, our midfield is bereft.

Anything less than three points at Millwall on Saturday and our season is over.
Not a big Robbie Savage fan but for once, I agree with him. Why bother playing an apparently injured Ulloa for 90-plus minutes when you're going to put Coko the Clown in goal? You either go for it 100 per cent or you don't. Let's hope Ince's injury isn't too seriously because without him, our midfield is bereft. Anything less than three points at Millwall on Saturday and our season is over. bruce beckett

9:55pm Mon 24 Feb 14

bbb1969 says...

1 goal offside and 2nd goal Brez fault. It's a team game though and we never showed up the first half. Their first goal was lucky but there you go.
Anyeay lets hope ince is ok for saturday.
1 goal offside and 2nd goal Brez fault. It's a team game though and we never showed up the first half. Their first goal was lucky but there you go. Anyeay lets hope ince is ok for saturday. bbb1969

9:57pm Mon 24 Feb 14

lowerbeedingseagull says...

Does anyone share my concern about the tactical skills or lack of them by the current management team? I'm afraid they do nothing to inspire me. Into the car now for a nice drive home, thank you to all at B&HA for making my trip so memorable!!!
Does anyone share my concern about the tactical skills or lack of them by the current management team? I'm afraid they do nothing to inspire me. Into the car now for a nice drive home, thank you to all at B&HA for making my trip so memorable!!! lowerbeedingseagull

9:59pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Tonyuk175 says...

Let's not be too harsh Oscar kept faith in the team who did the job in the previous round, yes we could play our top team in all games then when they are injured or knackered who then? We need loan players with quality not some apprentice or a has been the fans deserve something back we follow oscar and support him now it's time for B&B to do the same.... Now let's go on a run in the league UTA
Let's not be too harsh Oscar kept faith in the team who did the job in the previous round, yes we could play our top team in all games then when they are injured or knackered who then? We need loan players with quality not some apprentice or a has been the fans deserve something back we follow oscar and support him now it's time for B&B to do the same.... Now let's go on a run in the league UTA Tonyuk175

10:00pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Clean Sheet says...

First goal was offside, second embarrassing. However, in the second half we showed some spirit, and were not embarrassed. Given that this was someway off our first team, it was not a bad effort. Focus back on the league please now.
First goal was offside, second embarrassing. However, in the second half we showed some spirit, and were not embarrassed. Given that this was someway off our first team, it was not a bad effort. Focus back on the league please now. Clean Sheet

10:00pm Mon 24 Feb 14

albion64 says...

lowerbeedingseagull wrote:
Does anyone share my concern about the tactical skills or lack of them by the current management team? I'm afraid they do nothing to inspire me. Into the car now for a nice drive home, thank you to all at B&HA for making my trip so memorable!!!
Well done for making the trip. You have been let down big time. Perhaps Burke will pay your fuel.
[quote][p][bold]lowerbeedingseagull[/bold] wrote: Does anyone share my concern about the tactical skills or lack of them by the current management team? I'm afraid they do nothing to inspire me. Into the car now for a nice drive home, thank you to all at B&HA for making my trip so memorable!!![/p][/quote]Well done for making the trip. You have been let down big time. Perhaps Burke will pay your fuel. albion64

10:00pm Mon 24 Feb 14

GosportGull says...

Was never going to be easy ..but we didnt start playing until the 70th minute ! Bringing Obika on at 88mins ? Really ? Is that good coaching ? Whats the point , clearly one up front is not working but its not going to change and we will have to endure the lack luste forward play of which we are all used too ...

Ulloa is a good player , with a decent attacker next to him he could be awesome , he looks so isolated on his own .. i do feel for him ...

Too many no shows tonight .. i have really liked JFC in the past but didnt do himself justice tonight , those under 17 England Caps seem a long way away tonight ... Dunk shows glimpses of talent but its only glimpses im afraid ... As for Lopez ..good Sat rubbish tonight ... deserve his place ? No thank you ....
Was never going to be easy ..but we didnt start playing until the 70th minute ! Bringing Obika on at 88mins ? Really ? Is that good coaching ? Whats the point , clearly one up front is not working but its not going to change and we will have to endure the lack luste forward play of which we are all used too ... Ulloa is a good player , with a decent attacker next to him he could be awesome , he looks so isolated on his own .. i do feel for him ... Too many no shows tonight .. i have really liked JFC in the past but didnt do himself justice tonight , those under 17 England Caps seem a long way away tonight ... Dunk shows glimpses of talent but its only glimpses im afraid ... As for Lopez ..good Sat rubbish tonight ... deserve his place ? No thank you .... GosportGull

10:02pm Mon 24 Feb 14

happyguy25 says...

Totally agree bruce beckett 3 points needed at millwall if we can get a decent lian striker in and play 4-4-2 and start to go from the start of the match and now lets start yo bury these shots on targets and hammer a team
Totally agree bruce beckett 3 points needed at millwall if we can get a decent lian striker in and play 4-4-2 and start to go from the start of the match and now lets start yo bury these shots on targets and hammer a team happyguy25

10:04pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Major Bloodboil says...

The approach to this tie made no sense to me at all because the chances of us getting to the play-offs are now slim to none and if we had given this tie our best shot then we could have beaten Hull, who were not at all impressive and had a good shout of getting to the semi finals. We have lost out on a lot of cash which could have bolstered our fighting fund for next year.

There is no doubt that Oscar has had a difficult job this year with having to take over from the GP fiasco together with countless injuries to some of our best players but he really hasn't done himself justice with his negative team selection, especially in the Cup.
The approach to this tie made no sense to me at all because the chances of us getting to the play-offs are now slim to none and if we had given this tie our best shot then we could have beaten Hull, who were not at all impressive and had a good shout of getting to the semi finals. We have lost out on a lot of cash which could have bolstered our fighting fund for next year. There is no doubt that Oscar has had a difficult job this year with having to take over from the GP fiasco together with countless injuries to some of our best players but he really hasn't done himself justice with his negative team selection, especially in the Cup. Major Bloodboil

10:08pm Mon 24 Feb 14

mark by the sea says...

Tonyuk175 wrote:
Let's not be too harsh Oscar kept faith in the team who did the job in the previous round, yes we could play our top team in all games then when they are injured or knackered who then? We need loan players with quality not some apprentice or a has been the fans deserve something back we follow oscar and support him now it's time for B&B to do the same.... Now let's go on a run in the league UTA
OG is the fall guy, we sell Barnes and bridcutt and get obika and Dave two ..
Next we will here Hoskins is close to being ready ... Rather than actually signing someone who can do a job.
[quote][p][bold]Tonyuk175[/bold] wrote: Let's not be too harsh Oscar kept faith in the team who did the job in the previous round, yes we could play our top team in all games then when they are injured or knackered who then? We need loan players with quality not some apprentice or a has been the fans deserve something back we follow oscar and support him now it's time for B&B to do the same.... Now let's go on a run in the league UTA[/p][/quote]OG is the fall guy, we sell Barnes and bridcutt and get obika and Dave two .. Next we will here Hoskins is close to being ready ... Rather than actually signing someone who can do a job. mark by the sea

10:08pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Eddy B says...

mmm, at half time I was considering what I might write here and there wasn't anything positive (not a single shot), but 2nd half we improved alot although how much that was due to Hull stepping off the gas I wonder (was willing that shot from March to hit the corner last thing but to be honest it would have been very harsh on Hull who I think would have been strong enough to go on and win in ET anyway). Thought the following did ok - Ince, Ulloa, Upson, March (is there a pattern here - yes there is, some are good enough, some to be harsh probably aren't). -
I know it's early days but Rodriguez was anonymous and hasn't exactly taken to English football like a duck to water...will be surprised if he's back next season. Calde neglected his right back duties a bit. Poor Brezo had a mare. Dunk didn't play as well as he did last time. David L showed glimpses and his delivery for Ulloa's goal was a beauty. Agree with the poster above that some of the players we now have are no better than the ones we moved on, eg. Andrews for Dicker, Rodriguez for Barnes? Finally what has happened to Agestein - has he been banished by management or is he permanently injured or is he having a Vicente extended sulk? There is no hope for him if he can't get in the Cup team.
mmm, at half time I was considering what I might write here and there wasn't anything positive (not a single shot), but 2nd half we improved alot although how much that was due to Hull stepping off the gas I wonder (was willing that shot from March to hit the corner last thing but to be honest it would have been very harsh on Hull who I think would have been strong enough to go on and win in ET anyway). Thought the following did ok - Ince, Ulloa, Upson, March (is there a pattern here - yes there is, some are good enough, some to be harsh probably aren't). - I know it's early days but Rodriguez was anonymous and hasn't exactly taken to English football like a duck to water...will be surprised if he's back next season. Calde neglected his right back duties a bit. Poor Brezo had a mare. Dunk didn't play as well as he did last time. David L showed glimpses and his delivery for Ulloa's goal was a beauty. Agree with the poster above that some of the players we now have are no better than the ones we moved on, eg. Andrews for Dicker, Rodriguez for Barnes? Finally what has happened to Agestein - has he been banished by management or is he permanently injured or is he having a Vicente extended sulk? There is no hope for him if he can't get in the Cup team. Eddy B

10:10pm Mon 24 Feb 14

albion64 says...

GosportGull wrote:
Was never going to be easy ..but we didnt start playing until the 70th minute ! Bringing Obika on at 88mins ? Really ? Is that good coaching ? Whats the point , clearly one up front is not working but its not going to change and we will have to endure the lack luste forward play of which we are all used too ...

Ulloa is a good player , with a decent attacker next to him he could be awesome , he looks so isolated on his own .. i do feel for him ...

Too many no shows tonight .. i have really liked JFC in the past but didnt do himself justice tonight , those under 17 England Caps seem a long way away tonight ... Dunk shows glimpses of talent but its only glimpses im afraid ... As for Lopez ..good Sat rubbish tonight ... deserve his place ? No thank you ....
I totally agree about Obika, less than a minute to go and he comes on?!!!! WTF? Give the lad a chance. Ok I didn't think he'd be any good for us anyway, but at least give him some game time. When we scored, we didn't show any urgency and the clock seemed to run down very quickly. KLL struggled again against a half decent defence. I really hope Rod doesn't end up in-effective as well. He looked lost tonight. We need fresh impetus and a goal source.
Come on Oscar, lets loan an absolute cracker. UTA
[quote][p][bold]GosportGull[/bold] wrote: Was never going to be easy ..but we didnt start playing until the 70th minute ! Bringing Obika on at 88mins ? Really ? Is that good coaching ? Whats the point , clearly one up front is not working but its not going to change and we will have to endure the lack luste forward play of which we are all used too ... Ulloa is a good player , with a decent attacker next to him he could be awesome , he looks so isolated on his own .. i do feel for him ... Too many no shows tonight .. i have really liked JFC in the past but didnt do himself justice tonight , those under 17 England Caps seem a long way away tonight ... Dunk shows glimpses of talent but its only glimpses im afraid ... As for Lopez ..good Sat rubbish tonight ... deserve his place ? No thank you ....[/p][/quote]I totally agree about Obika, less than a minute to go and he comes on?!!!! WTF? Give the lad a chance. Ok I didn't think he'd be any good for us anyway, but at least give him some game time. When we scored, we didn't show any urgency and the clock seemed to run down very quickly. KLL struggled again against a half decent defence. I really hope Rod doesn't end up in-effective as well. He looked lost tonight. We need fresh impetus and a goal source. Come on Oscar, lets loan an absolute cracker. UTA albion64

10:12pm Mon 24 Feb 14

lowerbeedingseagull says...

I fully expect Holloway to have Millwall right up for it on Saturday so we need to show much more desire than we showed tonight. Comfortable in the back of the car and excited about my shift along the A14!!!!!ZZZZZZZZZZ!!
!!!!!!!!
I fully expect Holloway to have Millwall right up for it on Saturday so we need to show much more desire than we showed tonight. Comfortable in the back of the car and excited about my shift along the A14!!!!!ZZZZZZZZZZ!! !!!!!!!! lowerbeedingseagull

10:14pm Mon 24 Feb 14

impose our game gull says...

All good - let's focus on 5th/ 6th spot.

Good for Leo's confidence but we need help for him and some more pace.

1st goal - Brez should dominate that area - prob/ seems simply too nice a guy on the pitch. 2nd goal, Dunk conceded the foul and then diverted it in from the free kick.

2 - 1 loss at a Premiership team away from home 48 hours after a match (and Hull having beaten Cardiff 0 - 4) - could be worse ....

Let's move onwards and upwards then, get behind all the team and encourage our players to run at opposition defences more!!

UTA
All good - let's focus on 5th/ 6th spot. Good for Leo's confidence but we need help for him and some more pace. 1st goal - Brez should dominate that area - prob/ seems simply too nice a guy on the pitch. 2nd goal, Dunk conceded the foul and then diverted it in from the free kick. 2 - 1 loss at a Premiership team away from home 48 hours after a match (and Hull having beaten Cardiff 0 - 4) - could be worse .... Let's move onwards and upwards then, get behind all the team and encourage our players to run at opposition defences more!! UTA impose our game gull

10:15pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Aldrington Halt says...

Showed nerve and talent in the second half to keep Hull on their toes until the final whistle thanks to confidence restored by Leo's nice header but we seemed to be generally lacking the collective energy or desire required to win tonight, we back passed quite a lot and Oscar took his sweet time sending on reinforcements to try and get even. There was however some quality moves and passing tonight and great link up play under pressure, shame Dunk's volley never hit the net thought he generally had a good game, looks strong and deserves more first team playing time. Hull were fortunate for their offside goal and JFC was too short to be man on post and was in Brez's way so fortune smiled on Hull who were pretty solid tonight.Seagulls!!
Showed nerve and talent in the second half to keep Hull on their toes until the final whistle thanks to confidence restored by Leo's nice header but we seemed to be generally lacking the collective energy or desire required to win tonight, we back passed quite a lot and Oscar took his sweet time sending on reinforcements to try and get even. There was however some quality moves and passing tonight and great link up play under pressure, shame Dunk's volley never hit the net thought he generally had a good game, looks strong and deserves more first team playing time. Hull were fortunate for their offside goal and JFC was too short to be man on post and was in Brez's way so fortune smiled on Hull who were pretty solid tonight.Seagulls!! Aldrington Halt

10:15pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Tony the tiger eastbourne says...

No surprised really, donkey goalie, too much pretty pretty nicey nicey football; when we needed a bit of grit and determination. Forster Caskey, tidy player, but that's it. Bresovan 7ft tall and bloody useless in commanding his 18yrd box. Upson and Dunk played well as did all our defenders.
No surprised really, donkey goalie, too much pretty pretty nicey nicey football; when we needed a bit of grit and determination. Forster Caskey, tidy player, but that's it. Bresovan 7ft tall and bloody useless in commanding his 18yrd box. Upson and Dunk played well as did all our defenders. Tony the tiger eastbourne

10:17pm Mon 24 Feb 14

mikeygit says...

I saw most of the first half until my internet cut out. I was totally ashamed of what I saw. We could not keep the ball when we did have it we gave it away immediately. WE CERTAINLY need to look for another quality goalkeeper--Brez was an embarrassment and on TV too. The first half Albion looked like a 1st division team and on that showing I would cringe at the idea of them being a Premiership Team. OK we still have players out but the way they played in the first half was as if they did not want to have the prospect of playing against Sunderland.Pity I could not see the second half to have a more balanced view of the game. It appears the management have a lot of problems to sort out.
I saw most of the first half until my internet cut out. I was totally ashamed of what I saw. We could not keep the ball when we did have it we gave it away immediately. WE CERTAINLY need to look for another quality goalkeeper--Brez was an embarrassment and on TV too. The first half Albion looked like a 1st division team and on that showing I would cringe at the idea of them being a Premiership Team. OK we still have players out but the way they played in the first half was as if they did not want to have the prospect of playing against Sunderland.Pity I could not see the second half to have a more balanced view of the game. It appears the management have a lot of problems to sort out. mikeygit

10:18pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Eddy B says...

On a positive, if premiership Hull only get 10,000 for a home 5th round cup game there's got to be major hope for us with our level of support long term. You could hear the fans singing echo around the empty stadium. Well done the 400 odd who made the trip from Brighton especially with the rest of us staying home to watch on telly. What a joke this tie was brought forward to avoid a European Cup clash.
On a positive, if premiership Hull only get 10,000 for a home 5th round cup game there's got to be major hope for us with our level of support long term. You could hear the fans singing echo around the empty stadium. Well done the 400 odd who made the trip from Brighton especially with the rest of us staying home to watch on telly. What a joke this tie was brought forward to avoid a European Cup clash. Eddy B

10:20pm Mon 24 Feb 14

daveyboy35 says...

A waste of a replay! We could and should have sunderland at home but too negative!!!! I'm sick off hearing about ffp! I don't think there are gonna b any sanctions and before anybody pipes up I know where we've come from, I've supported us for 40 yrs! Everybody knows the money is in the premier league, we either wanna get there or be a big supported club outside it! Nothing to lose now, ulloa is dead on his feet, we need an injection of something to get us fired up again
A waste of a replay! We could and should have sunderland at home but too negative!!!! I'm sick off hearing about ffp! I don't think there are gonna b any sanctions and before anybody pipes up I know where we've come from, I've supported us for 40 yrs! Everybody knows the money is in the premier league, we either wanna get there or be a big supported club outside it! Nothing to lose now, ulloa is dead on his feet, we need an injection of something to get us fired up again daveyboy35

10:23pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Eddy B says...

Agree about Obika, chuck him on with 20 to go like on Saturday. Saturday we produced a barnstorming finish. Tonight it never came after Ulloa's goal.
Agree about Obika, chuck him on with 20 to go like on Saturday. Saturday we produced a barnstorming finish. Tonight it never came after Ulloa's goal. Eddy B

10:25pm Mon 24 Feb 14

pablobrowno says...

Don't like to be negative, but am starting to wonder. If Obika does not come come on before the 88th minute of a cup match we are losing then what is the point. Another Lita?!!! We are so blunt it's ridiculous. We have such little quality in the side, without Buckley we have no threat, even Lua lua has gone apparently rubbish! Oscar, there is no point having 65% possession and losing games. WHY OH WHY do we only ever play an attacking side when we go behind, or start to show any real desire or urgency when we go behind? Rodriguez is not the answer to any question. Why oh why did we not push the boat out to sign Conway rather than Rodders? Apparently we have money for loan signings but this was not available to sign Conway?

The old Poyet side who gave us so much hope are mainly no more. Rebuild required and Oscar needs to prove he is the right man next year. God help us if we sell Ulloa in the summer.

As for Brezovan. Lovely guy but not good enough. We NEED to have some proper competition for the number 1 spot.

Yes I'm annoyed but mostly at Oscar refusing to thro everything at this game, we had nothing to lose.
Don't like to be negative, but am starting to wonder. If Obika does not come come on before the 88th minute of a cup match we are losing then what is the point. Another Lita?!!! We are so blunt it's ridiculous. We have such little quality in the side, without Buckley we have no threat, even Lua lua has gone apparently rubbish! Oscar, there is no point having 65% possession and losing games. WHY OH WHY do we only ever play an attacking side when we go behind, or start to show any real desire or urgency when we go behind? Rodriguez is not the answer to any question. Why oh why did we not push the boat out to sign Conway rather than Rodders? Apparently we have money for loan signings but this was not available to sign Conway? The old Poyet side who gave us so much hope are mainly no more. Rebuild required and Oscar needs to prove he is the right man next year. God help us if we sell Ulloa in the summer. As for Brezovan. Lovely guy but not good enough. We NEED to have some proper competition for the number 1 spot. Yes I'm annoyed but mostly at Oscar refusing to thro everything at this game, we had nothing to lose. pablobrowno

10:25pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Withdean-er says...

Didn't bother watching, and glad I didn't, but the BBC5Live commentary was damning. In a non-spiteful way, the commentary and expert opinion was damning of the Albion, littered with 100's of comments such as:

Embarrassing defensive mistakes
Lack of dynamism on the team
Players not at the races tonight, half asleep
Lack of pace, power and creativity in the team
A 4-5-1 with the 1 isolated from the 5
All the midfielders can pass, but not break with pace
Giving Hull loads of space

Unsurprisingly, a Hull team acquired at vast cost in fees and wages through PL and Assam money, outclassed the Albion. Those hardly soles that made the journey to watch are incredibly loyal!
Didn't bother watching, and glad I didn't, but the BBC5Live commentary was damning. In a non-spiteful way, the commentary and expert opinion was damning of the Albion, littered with 100's of comments such as: Embarrassing defensive mistakes Lack of dynamism on the team Players not at the races tonight, half asleep Lack of pace, power and creativity in the team A 4-5-1 with the 1 isolated from the 5 All the midfielders can pass, but not break with pace Giving Hull loads of space Unsurprisingly, a Hull team acquired at vast cost in fees and wages through PL and Assam money, outclassed the Albion. Those hardly soles that made the journey to watch are incredibly loyal! Withdean-er

10:31pm Mon 24 Feb 14

mark by the sea says...

Dunk gave the ball away constantly , that chipped ball might deceive some, but it's a glorified hoof,
Jfc totally out of his depth, Dave two saved him by being even worse.
Ward was good tonight, ince again , march looks capable...
One question , if Brez is second choice .... How bad is angergan ?
Midfield were lost till we had width and more importantly pace.
Anyone explain why we ran the clock down on 88 minutes to give lethal 90 seconds?
Dunk gave the ball away constantly , that chipped ball might deceive some, but it's a glorified hoof, Jfc totally out of his depth, Dave two saved him by being even worse. Ward was good tonight, ince again , march looks capable... One question , if Brez is second choice .... How bad is angergan ? Midfield were lost till we had width and more importantly pace. Anyone explain why we ran the clock down on 88 minutes to give lethal 90 seconds? mark by the sea

10:35pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Dunk 2 blame says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Dunk gave the ball away constantly , that chipped ball might deceive some, but it's a glorified hoof,
Jfc totally out of his depth, Dave two saved him by being even worse.
Ward was good tonight, ince again , march looks capable...
One question , if Brez is second choice .... How bad is angergan ?
Midfield were lost till we had width and more importantly pace.
Anyone explain why we ran the clock down on 88 minutes to give lethal 90 seconds?
Thanks mark.100% of the national press put the blame with Dunk again.School boy stuff most have called it.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Dunk gave the ball away constantly , that chipped ball might deceive some, but it's a glorified hoof, Jfc totally out of his depth, Dave two saved him by being even worse. Ward was good tonight, ince again , march looks capable... One question , if Brez is second choice .... How bad is angergan ? Midfield were lost till we had width and more importantly pace. Anyone explain why we ran the clock down on 88 minutes to give lethal 90 seconds?[/p][/quote]Thanks mark.100% of the national press put the blame with Dunk again.School boy stuff most have called it. Dunk 2 blame

10:36pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Someone's hallucinating. Delusional weirdness as weell as foaming idiocy.
Someone's hallucinating. Delusional weirdness as weell as foaming idiocy. Ex-pat Arnie

10:38pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Alfie T says...

Aldrington Halt wrote:
Showed nerve and talent in the second half to keep Hull on their toes until the final whistle thanks to confidence restored by Leo's nice header but we seemed to be generally lacking the collective energy or desire required to win tonight, we back passed quite a lot and Oscar took his sweet time sending on reinforcements to try and get even. There was however some quality moves and passing tonight and great link up play under pressure, shame Dunk's volley never hit the net thought he generally had a good game, looks strong and deserves more first team playing time. Hull were fortunate for their offside goal and JFC was too short to be man on post and was in Brez's way so fortune smiled on Hull who were pretty solid tonight.Seagulls!!
Not sure why you got a thumbs down Aldrington, good accurate and realistic post. If anyone was left wondering then JFC's performance tonight showed he is a div 1 player at best.
[quote][p][bold]Aldrington Halt[/bold] wrote: Showed nerve and talent in the second half to keep Hull on their toes until the final whistle thanks to confidence restored by Leo's nice header but we seemed to be generally lacking the collective energy or desire required to win tonight, we back passed quite a lot and Oscar took his sweet time sending on reinforcements to try and get even. There was however some quality moves and passing tonight and great link up play under pressure, shame Dunk's volley never hit the net thought he generally had a good game, looks strong and deserves more first team playing time. Hull were fortunate for their offside goal and JFC was too short to be man on post and was in Brez's way so fortune smiled on Hull who were pretty solid tonight.Seagulls!![/p][/quote]Not sure why you got a thumbs down Aldrington, good accurate and realistic post. If anyone was left wondering then JFC's performance tonight showed he is a div 1 player at best. Alfie T

10:40pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Alfie T wrote:
Aldrington Halt wrote:
Showed nerve and talent in the second half to keep Hull on their toes until the final whistle thanks to confidence restored by Leo's nice header but we seemed to be generally lacking the collective energy or desire required to win tonight, we back passed quite a lot and Oscar took his sweet time sending on reinforcements to try and get even. There was however some quality moves and passing tonight and great link up play under pressure, shame Dunk's volley never hit the net thought he generally had a good game, looks strong and deserves more first team playing time. Hull were fortunate for their offside goal and JFC was too short to be man on post and was in Brez's way so fortune smiled on Hull who were pretty solid tonight.Seagulls!!
Not sure why you got a thumbs down Aldrington, good accurate and realistic post. If anyone was left wondering then JFC's performance tonight showed he is a div 1 player at best.
Anyone who makes even a slightly positive comment is getting marked down. It's that kind of troll-fest night.
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aldrington Halt[/bold] wrote: Showed nerve and talent in the second half to keep Hull on their toes until the final whistle thanks to confidence restored by Leo's nice header but we seemed to be generally lacking the collective energy or desire required to win tonight, we back passed quite a lot and Oscar took his sweet time sending on reinforcements to try and get even. There was however some quality moves and passing tonight and great link up play under pressure, shame Dunk's volley never hit the net thought he generally had a good game, looks strong and deserves more first team playing time. Hull were fortunate for their offside goal and JFC was too short to be man on post and was in Brez's way so fortune smiled on Hull who were pretty solid tonight.Seagulls!![/p][/quote]Not sure why you got a thumbs down Aldrington, good accurate and realistic post. If anyone was left wondering then JFC's performance tonight showed he is a div 1 player at best.[/p][/quote]Anyone who makes even a slightly positive comment is getting marked down. It's that kind of troll-fest night. Ex-pat Arnie

10:44pm Mon 24 Feb 14

VegasSeagull says...

So if we the fans are going to be honest, did we really expect to go to Hull and win, I mean honestly did we?
Lack lustere in the first half, yeah. Ist goal offside, yeah. Second goal, even though a deflection took it in, Brez a tad flat footed, yeah. The cup run is over but we did well out of it, some decent cash in the bank and some valuable playing time given to some back up players. It would now be easy to start pointing fingers, but maybe the first finger should be pointed at the fools that made us play a little more than 48 hours after a league match.

I guess all the talk now will revert back to our chances of a top six place, more complaints about signings or the lack there of. More groans about the FFP rules and who is and who isn't acting in good faith. Oscar's tactics along with what are percieved as Burke's and Barber's decisions and how they are influencing the squad. I guess we will also hear about how we won't be able to hold on to Ulloa and Ince come next season, Ulloa, Ince and anyone else that is considered, 'good.' Obika will continue to be the whipping boy during the remainder of his loan period, gotta have someone to dislike. The perenial one striker V two debate will rage on. Now we appear to have Mr. Freeloader back I guess we will hear a lot about who is a waste of space and money, and who's dad must have influence at the club.

Oh what a super time we are all in for during the run in to the end of season.
So if we the fans are going to be honest, did we really expect to go to Hull and win, I mean honestly did we? Lack lustere in the first half, yeah. Ist goal offside, yeah. Second goal, even though a deflection took it in, Brez a tad flat footed, yeah. The cup run is over but we did well out of it, some decent cash in the bank and some valuable playing time given to some back up players. It would now be easy to start pointing fingers, but maybe the first finger should be pointed at the fools that made us play a little more than 48 hours after a league match. I guess all the talk now will revert back to our chances of a top six place, more complaints about signings or the lack there of. More groans about the FFP rules and who is and who isn't acting in good faith. Oscar's tactics along with what are percieved as Burke's and Barber's decisions and how they are influencing the squad. I guess we will also hear about how we won't be able to hold on to Ulloa and Ince come next season, Ulloa, Ince and anyone else that is considered, 'good.' Obika will continue to be the whipping boy during the remainder of his loan period, gotta have someone to dislike. The perenial one striker V two debate will rage on. Now we appear to have Mr. Freeloader back I guess we will hear a lot about who is a waste of space and money, and who's dad must have influence at the club. Oh what a super time we are all in for during the run in to the end of season. VegasSeagull

10:45pm Mon 24 Feb 14

bruce beckett says...

Presumably Agustien is being left out of the side because of his bad attitude and Twitter rants?

Just can't understand how Julie Andrews or KFC can get in the side ahead of him. At least he can pass the ball forward.
Presumably Agustien is being left out of the side because of his bad attitude and Twitter rants? Just can't understand how Julie Andrews or KFC can get in the side ahead of him. At least he can pass the ball forward. bruce beckett

10:55pm Mon 24 Feb 14

seegull fly in sky says...

Bevizen im noa good. Much noa good. Award noa god. Lalua noa god. Gunk noa good. Umbalo scorer gole ee sine slumberland. Ocaras noa god. Plyers noa wun cup. Me um comiplan a blom a babber noa spend munnie a plyers. Need ue spund 50 milliliolon puonds. Bryton noa ga wombley a wun FF cap.
Bevizen im noa good. Much noa good. Award noa god. Lalua noa god. Gunk noa good. Umbalo scorer gole ee sine slumberland. Ocaras noa god. Plyers noa wun cup. Me um comiplan a blom a babber noa spend munnie a plyers. Need ue spund 50 milliliolon puonds. Bryton noa ga wombley a wun FF cap. seegull fly in sky

10:55pm Mon 24 Feb 14

bruce beckett says...

So if we the fans are going to be honest, did we really expect to go to Hull and win, I mean honestly did we?

I didn't expect us to win once I saw Brezovan was in goal. With Buckley and Orlandi injured, and Stephens cup-tied, we played close to a full-strength team so why the change in such a crucial position? I can only think it can be because Kaz's back is acting up again.

Of more concern to me is that the players we have brought in this season are of inferior quality to the players we let go...a prime example being Rodriguez for Barnes.

No point in trying to get players in on loan once the season is over, is there? Should have tried harder to get Conway back, especially with Buckley out every other game and LuaLua incapable of performing for 90 minutes.
So if we the fans are going to be honest, did we really expect to go to Hull and win, I mean honestly did we? I didn't expect us to win once I saw Brezovan was in goal. With Buckley and Orlandi injured, and Stephens cup-tied, we played close to a full-strength team so why the change in such a crucial position? I can only think it can be because Kaz's back is acting up again. Of more concern to me is that the players we have brought in this season are of inferior quality to the players we let go...a prime example being Rodriguez for Barnes. No point in trying to get players in on loan once the season is over, is there? Should have tried harder to get Conway back, especially with Buckley out every other game and LuaLua incapable of performing for 90 minutes. bruce beckett

10:58pm Mon 24 Feb 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
So if we the fans are going to be honest, did we really expect to go to Hull and win, I mean honestly did we?
Lack lustere in the first half, yeah. Ist goal offside, yeah. Second goal, even though a deflection took it in, Brez a tad flat footed, yeah. The cup run is over but we did well out of it, some decent cash in the bank and some valuable playing time given to some back up players. It would now be easy to start pointing fingers, but maybe the first finger should be pointed at the fools that made us play a little more than 48 hours after a league match.

I guess all the talk now will revert back to our chances of a top six place, more complaints about signings or the lack there of. More groans about the FFP rules and who is and who isn't acting in good faith. Oscar's tactics along with what are percieved as Burke's and Barber's decisions and how they are influencing the squad. I guess we will also hear about how we won't be able to hold on to Ulloa and Ince come next season, Ulloa, Ince and anyone else that is considered, 'good.' Obika will continue to be the whipping boy during the remainder of his loan period, gotta have someone to dislike. The perenial one striker V two debate will rage on. Now we appear to have Mr. Freeloader back I guess we will hear a lot about who is a waste of space and money, and who's dad must have influence at the club.

Oh what a super time we are all in for during the run in to the end of season.
I can see your point, but we seem to have total faith in the two b brothers,
And the one striker team, sides are now going for it , hull went 3 up front and pressured us in possession .. We really struggled in that ....
Those not technically or physically gifted were exposed..
Here is a question, let's say angergan is on 3k a week
Brez. On 4k a week.
TK on 10k a week ...
Do we need three keepers when even the lone season is closed you can have a loan keeper under injuries ..
Your call Vegas !
Under the two B brothers TK will go..
As will one more, but will a new keeper be any good?
Trying to save money leads to signing kemy and Dave 2 who had a shocker
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: So if we the fans are going to be honest, did we really expect to go to Hull and win, I mean honestly did we? Lack lustere in the first half, yeah. Ist goal offside, yeah. Second goal, even though a deflection took it in, Brez a tad flat footed, yeah. The cup run is over but we did well out of it, some decent cash in the bank and some valuable playing time given to some back up players. It would now be easy to start pointing fingers, but maybe the first finger should be pointed at the fools that made us play a little more than 48 hours after a league match. I guess all the talk now will revert back to our chances of a top six place, more complaints about signings or the lack there of. More groans about the FFP rules and who is and who isn't acting in good faith. Oscar's tactics along with what are percieved as Burke's and Barber's decisions and how they are influencing the squad. I guess we will also hear about how we won't be able to hold on to Ulloa and Ince come next season, Ulloa, Ince and anyone else that is considered, 'good.' Obika will continue to be the whipping boy during the remainder of his loan period, gotta have someone to dislike. The perenial one striker V two debate will rage on. Now we appear to have Mr. Freeloader back I guess we will hear a lot about who is a waste of space and money, and who's dad must have influence at the club. Oh what a super time we are all in for during the run in to the end of season.[/p][/quote]I can see your point, but we seem to have total faith in the two b brothers, And the one striker team, sides are now going for it , hull went 3 up front and pressured us in possession .. We really struggled in that .... Those not technically or physically gifted were exposed.. Here is a question, let's say angergan is on 3k a week Brez. On 4k a week. TK on 10k a week ... Do we need three keepers when even the lone season is closed you can have a loan keeper under injuries .. Your call Vegas ! Under the two B brothers TK will go.. As will one more, but will a new keeper be any good? Trying to save money leads to signing kemy and Dave 2 who had a shocker mark by the sea

11:00pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Claude Back says...

lowerbeedingseagull wrote:
Does anyone share my concern about the tactical skills or lack of them by the current management team? I'm afraid they do nothing to inspire me. Into the car now for a nice drive home, thank you to all at B&HA for making my trip so memorable!!!
Yes, I do and so do quite a few others with discernment.
We will win nothing with OG. His team selection and formations are clueless even with choosing from only available players. I just hope Tony sees the light and abandons this fad of 'Continental' style management and playing with a lone striker and gets a proper manager who buys and selects his own players. Yes, you can thumbs down all you want but we are not good enough for promotion and won't get it this season. That's why playing Brez in goal for a valuable tie like this was almost negligent. I'm not speaking after the event, either. I said on here the other day that Brez 'was an accident waiting to happen' and anyone with any Football nous would know that.
[quote][p][bold]lowerbeedingseagull[/bold] wrote: Does anyone share my concern about the tactical skills or lack of them by the current management team? I'm afraid they do nothing to inspire me. Into the car now for a nice drive home, thank you to all at B&HA for making my trip so memorable!!![/p][/quote]Yes, I do and so do quite a few others with discernment. We will win nothing with OG. His team selection and formations are clueless even with choosing from only available players. I just hope Tony sees the light and abandons this fad of 'Continental' style management and playing with a lone striker and gets a proper manager who buys and selects his own players. Yes, you can thumbs down all you want but we are not good enough for promotion and won't get it this season. That's why playing Brez in goal for a valuable tie like this was almost negligent. I'm not speaking after the event, either. I said on here the other day that Brez 'was an accident waiting to happen' and anyone with any Football nous would know that. Claude Back

11:04pm Mon 24 Feb 14

mark by the sea says...

Claude Back wrote:
lowerbeedingseagull wrote:
Does anyone share my concern about the tactical skills or lack of them by the current management team? I'm afraid they do nothing to inspire me. Into the car now for a nice drive home, thank you to all at B&HA for making my trip so memorable!!!
Yes, I do and so do quite a few others with discernment.
We will win nothing with OG. His team selection and formations are clueless even with choosing from only available players. I just hope Tony sees the light and abandons this fad of 'Continental' style management and playing with a lone striker and gets a proper manager who buys and selects his own players. Yes, you can thumbs down all you want but we are not good enough for promotion and won't get it this season. That's why playing Brez in goal for a valuable tie like this was almost negligent. I'm not speaking after the event, either. I said on here the other day that Brez 'was an accident waiting to happen' and anyone with any Football nous would know that.
Lol when TK goes to Qpr we will have Brez our number one, why play him?
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lowerbeedingseagull[/bold] wrote: Does anyone share my concern about the tactical skills or lack of them by the current management team? I'm afraid they do nothing to inspire me. Into the car now for a nice drive home, thank you to all at B&HA for making my trip so memorable!!![/p][/quote]Yes, I do and so do quite a few others with discernment. We will win nothing with OG. His team selection and formations are clueless even with choosing from only available players. I just hope Tony sees the light and abandons this fad of 'Continental' style management and playing with a lone striker and gets a proper manager who buys and selects his own players. Yes, you can thumbs down all you want but we are not good enough for promotion and won't get it this season. That's why playing Brez in goal for a valuable tie like this was almost negligent. I'm not speaking after the event, either. I said on here the other day that Brez 'was an accident waiting to happen' and anyone with any Football nous would know that.[/p][/quote]Lol when TK goes to Qpr we will have Brez our number one, why play him? mark by the sea

11:04pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Claude Back says...

pablobrowno wrote:
Don't like to be negative, but am starting to wonder. If Obika does not come come on before the 88th minute of a cup match we are losing then what is the point. Another Lita?!!! We are so blunt it's ridiculous. We have such little quality in the side, without Buckley we have no threat, even Lua lua has gone apparently rubbish! Oscar, there is no point having 65% possession and losing games. WHY OH WHY do we only ever play an attacking side when we go behind, or start to show any real desire or urgency when we go behind? Rodriguez is not the answer to any question. Why oh why did we not push the boat out to sign Conway rather than Rodders? Apparently we have money for loan signings but this was not available to sign Conway?

The old Poyet side who gave us so much hope are mainly no more. Rebuild required and Oscar needs to prove he is the right man next year. God help us if we sell Ulloa in the summer.

As for Brezovan. Lovely guy but not good enough. We NEED to have some proper competition for the number 1 spot.

Yes I'm annoyed but mostly at Oscar refusing to thro everything at this game, we had nothing to lose.
You have said it all, Pablo and quite rightly in my opinion.
[quote][p][bold]pablobrowno[/bold] wrote: Don't like to be negative, but am starting to wonder. If Obika does not come come on before the 88th minute of a cup match we are losing then what is the point. Another Lita?!!! We are so blunt it's ridiculous. We have such little quality in the side, without Buckley we have no threat, even Lua lua has gone apparently rubbish! Oscar, there is no point having 65% possession and losing games. WHY OH WHY do we only ever play an attacking side when we go behind, or start to show any real desire or urgency when we go behind? Rodriguez is not the answer to any question. Why oh why did we not push the boat out to sign Conway rather than Rodders? Apparently we have money for loan signings but this was not available to sign Conway? The old Poyet side who gave us so much hope are mainly no more. Rebuild required and Oscar needs to prove he is the right man next year. God help us if we sell Ulloa in the summer. As for Brezovan. Lovely guy but not good enough. We NEED to have some proper competition for the number 1 spot. Yes I'm annoyed but mostly at Oscar refusing to thro everything at this game, we had nothing to lose.[/p][/quote]You have said it all, Pablo and quite rightly in my opinion. Claude Back

11:05pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Alfie T says...

seegull fly in sky wrote:
Bevizen im noa good. Much noa good. Award noa god. Lalua noa god. Gunk noa good. Umbalo scorer gole ee sine slumberland. Ocaras noa god. Plyers noa wun cup. Me um comiplan a blom a babber noa spend munnie a plyers. Need ue spund 50 milliliolon puonds. Bryton noa ga wombley a wun FF cap.
Quite funny for a change, especially the Gunk bit :-)
[quote][p][bold]seegull fly in sky[/bold] wrote: Bevizen im noa good. Much noa good. Award noa god. Lalua noa god. Gunk noa good. Umbalo scorer gole ee sine slumberland. Ocaras noa god. Plyers noa wun cup. Me um comiplan a blom a babber noa spend munnie a plyers. Need ue spund 50 milliliolon puonds. Bryton noa ga wombley a wun FF cap.[/p][/quote]Quite funny for a change, especially the Gunk bit :-) Alfie T

11:11pm Mon 24 Feb 14

lowerbeedingseagull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
So if we the fans are going to be honest, did we really expect to go to Hull and win, I mean honestly did we?
Lack lustere in the first half, yeah. Ist goal offside, yeah. Second goal, even though a deflection took it in, Brez a tad flat footed, yeah. The cup run is over but we did well out of it, some decent cash in the bank and some valuable playing time given to some back up players. It would now be easy to start pointing fingers, but maybe the first finger should be pointed at the fools that made us play a little more than 48 hours after a league match.

I guess all the talk now will revert back to our chances of a top six place, more complaints about signings or the lack there of. More groans about the FFP rules and who is and who isn't acting in good faith. Oscar's tactics along with what are percieved as Burke's and Barber's decisions and how they are influencing the squad. I guess we will also hear about how we won't be able to hold on to Ulloa and Ince come next season, Ulloa, Ince and anyone else that is considered, 'good.' Obika will continue to be the whipping boy during the remainder of his loan period, gotta have someone to dislike. The perenial one striker V two debate will rage on. Now we appear to have Mr. Freeloader back I guess we will hear a lot about who is a waste of space and money, and who's dad must have influence at the club.

Oh what a super time we are all in for during the run in to the end of season.
For years and years we have tried to keep the faith every match or we wouldn't go whenever we can rather than watch on TV or expect to correctly predict the outcome. I rather imagine you gave us no chance at Wigan, Middlesbrough or Blackpool. It is not the losing tonight it's the way we lost that hurts.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: So if we the fans are going to be honest, did we really expect to go to Hull and win, I mean honestly did we? Lack lustere in the first half, yeah. Ist goal offside, yeah. Second goal, even though a deflection took it in, Brez a tad flat footed, yeah. The cup run is over but we did well out of it, some decent cash in the bank and some valuable playing time given to some back up players. It would now be easy to start pointing fingers, but maybe the first finger should be pointed at the fools that made us play a little more than 48 hours after a league match. I guess all the talk now will revert back to our chances of a top six place, more complaints about signings or the lack there of. More groans about the FFP rules and who is and who isn't acting in good faith. Oscar's tactics along with what are percieved as Burke's and Barber's decisions and how they are influencing the squad. I guess we will also hear about how we won't be able to hold on to Ulloa and Ince come next season, Ulloa, Ince and anyone else that is considered, 'good.' Obika will continue to be the whipping boy during the remainder of his loan period, gotta have someone to dislike. The perenial one striker V two debate will rage on. Now we appear to have Mr. Freeloader back I guess we will hear a lot about who is a waste of space and money, and who's dad must have influence at the club. Oh what a super time we are all in for during the run in to the end of season.[/p][/quote]For years and years we have tried to keep the faith every match or we wouldn't go whenever we can rather than watch on TV or expect to correctly predict the outcome. I rather imagine you gave us no chance at Wigan, Middlesbrough or Blackpool. It is not the losing tonight it's the way we lost that hurts. lowerbeedingseagull

11:15pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Claude Back says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Alfie T wrote:
Aldrington Halt wrote:
Showed nerve and talent in the second half to keep Hull on their toes until the final whistle thanks to confidence restored by Leo's nice header but we seemed to be generally lacking the collective energy or desire required to win tonight, we back passed quite a lot and Oscar took his sweet time sending on reinforcements to try and get even. There was however some quality moves and passing tonight and great link up play under pressure, shame Dunk's volley never hit the net thought he generally had a good game, looks strong and deserves more first team playing time. Hull were fortunate for their offside goal and JFC was too short to be man on post and was in Brez's way so fortune smiled on Hull who were pretty solid tonight.Seagulls!!
Not sure why you got a thumbs down Aldrington, good accurate and realistic post. If anyone was left wondering then JFC's performance tonight showed he is a div 1 player at best.
Anyone who makes even a slightly positive comment is getting marked down. It's that kind of troll-fest night.
So, all your geese are swans, are they?
Sorry, but if you cannot see the problems this team and management have then you must have very little Football knowledge which might account for why you are always sniping at MTBS and others.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aldrington Halt[/bold] wrote: Showed nerve and talent in the second half to keep Hull on their toes until the final whistle thanks to confidence restored by Leo's nice header but we seemed to be generally lacking the collective energy or desire required to win tonight, we back passed quite a lot and Oscar took his sweet time sending on reinforcements to try and get even. There was however some quality moves and passing tonight and great link up play under pressure, shame Dunk's volley never hit the net thought he generally had a good game, looks strong and deserves more first team playing time. Hull were fortunate for their offside goal and JFC was too short to be man on post and was in Brez's way so fortune smiled on Hull who were pretty solid tonight.Seagulls!![/p][/quote]Not sure why you got a thumbs down Aldrington, good accurate and realistic post. If anyone was left wondering then JFC's performance tonight showed he is a div 1 player at best.[/p][/quote]Anyone who makes even a slightly positive comment is getting marked down. It's that kind of troll-fest night.[/p][/quote]So, all your geese are swans, are they? Sorry, but if you cannot see the problems this team and management have then you must have very little Football knowledge which might account for why you are always sniping at MTBS and others. Claude Back

11:21pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Claude Back wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Alfie T wrote:
Aldrington Halt wrote:
Showed nerve and talent in the second half to keep Hull on their toes until the final whistle thanks to confidence restored by Leo's nice header but we seemed to be generally lacking the collective energy or desire required to win tonight, we back passed quite a lot and Oscar took his sweet time sending on reinforcements to try and get even. There was however some quality moves and passing tonight and great link up play under pressure, shame Dunk's volley never hit the net thought he generally had a good game, looks strong and deserves more first team playing time. Hull were fortunate for their offside goal and JFC was too short to be man on post and was in Brez's way so fortune smiled on Hull who were pretty solid tonight.Seagulls!!
Not sure why you got a thumbs down Aldrington, good accurate and realistic post. If anyone was left wondering then JFC's performance tonight showed he is a div 1 player at best.
Anyone who makes even a slightly positive comment is getting marked down. It's that kind of troll-fest night.
So, all your geese are swans, are they?
Sorry, but if you cannot see the problems this team and management have then you must have very little Football knowledge which might account for why you are always sniping at MTBS and others.
Yes we have problems, but they are minor and the slagging off Barber, Burke and OG get is way out of proportion.
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aldrington Halt[/bold] wrote: Showed nerve and talent in the second half to keep Hull on their toes until the final whistle thanks to confidence restored by Leo's nice header but we seemed to be generally lacking the collective energy or desire required to win tonight, we back passed quite a lot and Oscar took his sweet time sending on reinforcements to try and get even. There was however some quality moves and passing tonight and great link up play under pressure, shame Dunk's volley never hit the net thought he generally had a good game, looks strong and deserves more first team playing time. Hull were fortunate for their offside goal and JFC was too short to be man on post and was in Brez's way so fortune smiled on Hull who were pretty solid tonight.Seagulls!![/p][/quote]Not sure why you got a thumbs down Aldrington, good accurate and realistic post. If anyone was left wondering then JFC's performance tonight showed he is a div 1 player at best.[/p][/quote]Anyone who makes even a slightly positive comment is getting marked down. It's that kind of troll-fest night.[/p][/quote]So, all your geese are swans, are they? Sorry, but if you cannot see the problems this team and management have then you must have very little Football knowledge which might account for why you are always sniping at MTBS and others.[/p][/quote]Yes we have problems, but they are minor and the slagging off Barber, Burke and OG get is way out of proportion. Ex-pat Arnie

11:27pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Freeloaders, your logic seriously let's you down.
Freeloaders, your logic seriously let's you down. Ex-pat Arnie

11:31pm Mon 24 Feb 14

OldGull says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Alfie T wrote:
Aldrington Halt wrote:
Showed nerve and talent in the second half to keep Hull on their toes until the final whistle thanks to confidence restored by Leo's nice header but we seemed to be generally lacking the collective energy or desire required to win tonight, we back passed quite a lot and Oscar took his sweet time sending on reinforcements to try and get even. There was however some quality moves and passing tonight and great link up play under pressure, shame Dunk's volley never hit the net thought he generally had a good game, looks strong and deserves more first team playing time. Hull were fortunate for their offside goal and JFC was too short to be man on post and was in Brez's way so fortune smiled on Hull who were pretty solid tonight.Seagulls!!
Not sure why you got a thumbs down Aldrington, good accurate and realistic post. If anyone was left wondering then JFC's performance tonight showed he is a div 1 player at best.
Anyone who makes even a slightly positive comment is getting marked down. It's that kind of troll-fest night.
yes they are out in force tonight.
The worst being D2B
it was a disapointing game, but at least we made a fight of it in the 2nd half.
Unfortunately the trolls have taken over the asylum. I think it may be time to move on to another site.
Thanks to all the ex pats who maintain a positive outlook. and too the other true supporters who contribute to this site.
I remember where we have come from, and still believe TB, OG + B&B will take us to the prem.

UTA
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aldrington Halt[/bold] wrote: Showed nerve and talent in the second half to keep Hull on their toes until the final whistle thanks to confidence restored by Leo's nice header but we seemed to be generally lacking the collective energy or desire required to win tonight, we back passed quite a lot and Oscar took his sweet time sending on reinforcements to try and get even. There was however some quality moves and passing tonight and great link up play under pressure, shame Dunk's volley never hit the net thought he generally had a good game, looks strong and deserves more first team playing time. Hull were fortunate for their offside goal and JFC was too short to be man on post and was in Brez's way so fortune smiled on Hull who were pretty solid tonight.Seagulls!![/p][/quote]Not sure why you got a thumbs down Aldrington, good accurate and realistic post. If anyone was left wondering then JFC's performance tonight showed he is a div 1 player at best.[/p][/quote]Anyone who makes even a slightly positive comment is getting marked down. It's that kind of troll-fest night.[/p][/quote]yes they are out in force tonight. The worst being D2B it was a disapointing game, but at least we made a fight of it in the 2nd half. Unfortunately the trolls have taken over the asylum. I think it may be time to move on to another site. Thanks to all the ex pats who maintain a positive outlook. and too the other true supporters who contribute to this site. I remember where we have come from, and still believe TB, OG + B&B will take us to the prem. UTA OldGull

11:42pm Mon 24 Feb 14

pjwilk says...

Brez had a really poor game.Oscar did his usual thing bringing on some pace when we are 2-0 down same tactics as Sat against Wigan,same tactics same result ,will Oscar ever learn?.
Brez had a really poor game.Oscar did his usual thing bringing on some pace when we are 2-0 down same tactics as Sat against Wigan,same tactics same result ,will Oscar ever learn?. pjwilk

11:44pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Claude Back wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Alfie T wrote:
Aldrington Halt wrote:
Showed nerve and talent in the second half to keep Hull on their toes until the final whistle thanks to confidence restored by Leo's nice header but we seemed to be generally lacking the collective energy or desire required to win tonight, we back passed quite a lot and Oscar took his sweet time sending on reinforcements to try and get even. There was however some quality moves and passing tonight and great link up play under pressure, shame Dunk's volley never hit the net thought he generally had a good game, looks strong and deserves more first team playing time. Hull were fortunate for their offside goal and JFC was too short to be man on post and was in Brez's way so fortune smiled on Hull who were pretty solid tonight.Seagulls!!
Not sure why you got a thumbs down Aldrington, good accurate and realistic post. If anyone was left wondering then JFC's performance tonight showed he is a div 1 player at best.
Anyone who makes even a slightly positive comment is getting marked down. It's that kind of troll-fest night.
So, all your geese are swans, are they?
Sorry, but if you cannot see the problems this team and management have then you must have very little Football knowledge which might account for why you are always sniping at MTBS and others.
Just for the record, I don't snipe at MBTS, I take issue with anyone I think has an overly pessimistic view of the club, or portrays vague opinion as undeniable fact. That group has many members, including you, Freeloaders and MBTS, but MBTS is the most prolific of the half-glass-empty brigade.

As I said to someone else recently, I may be am optimist but which one out of you, MBTS and me most enjoys being a supporter? I'd place good money on its being me.
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aldrington Halt[/bold] wrote: Showed nerve and talent in the second half to keep Hull on their toes until the final whistle thanks to confidence restored by Leo's nice header but we seemed to be generally lacking the collective energy or desire required to win tonight, we back passed quite a lot and Oscar took his sweet time sending on reinforcements to try and get even. There was however some quality moves and passing tonight and great link up play under pressure, shame Dunk's volley never hit the net thought he generally had a good game, looks strong and deserves more first team playing time. Hull were fortunate for their offside goal and JFC was too short to be man on post and was in Brez's way so fortune smiled on Hull who were pretty solid tonight.Seagulls!![/p][/quote]Not sure why you got a thumbs down Aldrington, good accurate and realistic post. If anyone was left wondering then JFC's performance tonight showed he is a div 1 player at best.[/p][/quote]Anyone who makes even a slightly positive comment is getting marked down. It's that kind of troll-fest night.[/p][/quote]So, all your geese are swans, are they? Sorry, but if you cannot see the problems this team and management have then you must have very little Football knowledge which might account for why you are always sniping at MTBS and others.[/p][/quote]Just for the record, I don't snipe at MBTS, I take issue with anyone I think has an overly pessimistic view of the club, or portrays vague opinion as undeniable fact. That group has many members, including you, Freeloaders and MBTS, but MBTS is the most prolific of the half-glass-empty brigade. As I said to someone else recently, I may be am optimist but which one out of you, MBTS and me most enjoys being a supporter? I'd place good money on its being me. Ex-pat Arnie

11:48pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Mancgulled says...

I have seen Brighton play Hull a few times over the last 3 seasons and thought they were some of the dullest games by far. Tonight I thought they looked like a team that have upped their game tremendously. They never had a good GD in past seasons and I was incredulous they got to the PL with such a lacklustre strike force - but they did! No point moaning about young JFC - fact is Sonny Aluko was better than either him or Kazenga. We couldn't get behind two pretty solid but slow centre backs because as Strachan and co were telling you all after 20 minutes in we "lacked pace" and if we insist on playing one up then the "service to the front player MUST be accurate". To be fair we don't have CMS so we could not introduce that element to our game but we do have Obika. If we were not going to really try to win the game after half time and already conceded that it was lost why not at least give the fella a chance? I have seen all of Rodriguez's games now and I can say that I cannot recall one incident he has been involved in - I really haven't noticed he is on the pitch - now - if he can have so many bites at the cherry why can't Obika? I hear lots of people on here slagging him off but on Saturday - when he did get on -- he did make a run into the box and had a shot. Some people moaned he should have squared it - but I am certain there were defenders between him and Ulloa - but the fact is - he MADE that chance all by himself in his allotted 10 min cameo and I remember it. DO you remember Rodriguez in any game doing anything at all? I don't. Maybe he'll come good -- doubt it though pure and simply because we NEVER play the ball out to that particular position he plays on the pitch. Wardy - best crosser of the ball again. Also - does everyone REALLY believe Barber chooses the players? YThat pardons some people who in my oppinion would probably be all too grateful to accept those pardons. Brezovan - sorry - the bloke is the village idiot -- I really don't understand how he has lasted so long - ant goalie in div 1 would be better - the bloke fills you with dread anytime an opposition player gets through on goal - anyone watching the team since he came will know he is a liability and I dont recall Ankergren filling you with confidence either. We have a stubborn defence "hard to break down" - we have the backroom we need what we have always needed since last March - a striker - not a "cover" striker - an employee. Beccio - not Monakana, Chicksen, Obika & Lita (apparently), Stephens, Andrews ...
and we sold Barnes, Bridders and we could have made more on the FA Cup if we had gone for the throat - like we did the last ten mins on Saturday when Wigan were penned into their own 18 yard box. Like a penalty shoot-out -- best options first! ..... then dither ...
I have seen Brighton play Hull a few times over the last 3 seasons and thought they were some of the dullest games by far. Tonight I thought they looked like a team that have upped their game tremendously. They never had a good GD in past seasons and I was incredulous they got to the PL with such a lacklustre strike force - but they did! No point moaning about young JFC - fact is Sonny Aluko was better than either him or Kazenga. We couldn't get behind two pretty solid but slow centre backs because as Strachan and co were telling you all after 20 minutes in we "lacked pace" and if we insist on playing one up then the "service to the front player MUST be accurate". To be fair we don't have CMS so we could not introduce that element to our game but we do have Obika. If we were not going to really try to win the game after half time and already conceded that it was lost why not at least give the fella a chance? I have seen all of Rodriguez's games now and I can say that I cannot recall one incident he has been involved in - I really haven't noticed he is on the pitch - now - if he can have so many bites at the cherry why can't Obika? I hear lots of people on here slagging him off but on Saturday - when he did get on -- he did make a run into the box and had a shot. Some people moaned he should have squared it - but I am certain there were defenders between him and Ulloa - but the fact is - he MADE that chance all by himself in his allotted 10 min cameo and I remember it. DO you remember Rodriguez in any game doing anything at all? I don't. Maybe he'll come good -- doubt it though pure and simply because we NEVER play the ball out to that particular position he plays on the pitch. Wardy - best crosser of the ball again. Also - does everyone REALLY believe Barber chooses the players? YThat pardons some people who in my oppinion would probably be all too grateful to accept those pardons. Brezovan - sorry - the bloke is the village idiot -- I really don't understand how he has lasted so long - ant goalie in div 1 would be better - the bloke fills you with dread anytime an opposition player gets through on goal - anyone watching the team since he came will know he is a liability and I dont recall Ankergren filling you with confidence either. We have a stubborn defence "hard to break down" [Strachan] - we have the backroom we need what we have always needed since last March - a striker - not a "cover" striker - an employee. Beccio - not Monakana, Chicksen, Obika & Lita (apparently), Stephens, Andrews ... and we sold Barnes, Bridders and we could have made more on the FA Cup if we had gone for the throat - like we did the last ten mins on Saturday when Wigan were penned into their own 18 yard box. Like a penalty shoot-out -- best options first! ..... then dither ... Mancgulled

11:51pm Mon 24 Feb 14

VegasSeagull says...

Do we need three keepers, well yes we do, could we handle having a first and second choice backed up by a DS lad, yeah why not, as you say Mark, we can hit the emergency button if needed.

Mark I think it highly likely that when Oscar joined us Tony and the suits had a holding plan for this year, regardless of what Tony said. I think the idea was to spend only what was crucial to spend. Have a squad good enough to make the year interesting, but in their hearts they knew would not get us promoted. I don't think was a secret kept from Oscar, I am sure that he knew where he stood for this year.
We were all worried last season that Bridcutt might get sold, I am sure that the suits expected someone to come for him this year and pay a price that we would accept. The sale of El-Abd was not forseen but the club couldn't say no to such a loyal servant, he had to be given the chance to leave. Barnes going was on the cards right from the day he didn't sign the new contract offered to him last summer, and Branes knew of Burley's interest, interest that predates this season. We have not really spent money this year, Lita and Obika were or are not expensive loanees, Stephens fee would not have hurt the purse strings and Rodriguez only cost his hello fee.

When you look at the picture as a whole, we have not made a concerted effort to build for promotion but what we have done, is make a huge effort to bring young players thru, these lads have progressed and will continue to do so as we enter the final stages of this year. Yes they got the chance due to loads of injuries but that fact again highlights our controll of spending this year, we could have bought to aliviate our loss of players thru injury, just about every other club would have.

I firmly believe that this year has gone, and will go, just as it was expected to, top eight and anything better a bonus. Those nearing the end of their contracts have been told to wait, those except the young, and that speaks loud to me. I think that there is a cull coming, maybe one bigger than some might expect. Could Ulloa go, yes I think he could, I see him being another Bridcutt, a player we fully expect to get a offer for, and an offer that will be big, very big, and we will take it simply because of the size of that offer.

I remain confident that next years squad will look very different from our current one, I think that the, 'Oscar stamp,' will be written all over it. Buckley, Kaz, Greer, Spanish Dave and Bruno, I can see them all gone, and maybe JFC too.Calde might hang on but I doubt it, TK, yep another that might choose to go rather than being let go but I see us signing Ward. Other than Ward all the loanees will be gone. I am predicting a revolution with many casualties and once done, a new squad will emerge younger and hungry for success and with more staying power than some of today's players. We could have strengthened this squad but chose not to, I don't think that was mismanagement, that was deliberate and for a reason.
Do we need three keepers, well yes we do, could we handle having a first and second choice backed up by a DS lad, yeah why not, as you say Mark, we can hit the emergency button if needed. Mark I think it highly likely that when Oscar joined us Tony and the suits had a holding plan for this year, regardless of what Tony said. I think the idea was to spend only what was crucial to spend. Have a squad good enough to make the year interesting, but in their hearts they knew would not get us promoted. I don't think was a secret kept from Oscar, I am sure that he knew where he stood for this year. We were all worried last season that Bridcutt might get sold, I am sure that the suits expected someone to come for him this year and pay a price that we would accept. The sale of El-Abd was not forseen but the club couldn't say no to such a loyal servant, he had to be given the chance to leave. Barnes going was on the cards right from the day he didn't sign the new contract offered to him last summer, and Branes knew of Burley's interest, interest that predates this season. We have not really spent money this year, Lita and Obika were or are not expensive loanees, Stephens fee would not have hurt the purse strings and Rodriguez only cost his hello fee. When you look at the picture as a whole, we have not made a concerted effort to build for promotion but what we have done, is make a huge effort to bring young players thru, these lads have progressed and will continue to do so as we enter the final stages of this year. Yes they got the chance due to loads of injuries but that fact again highlights our controll of spending this year, we could have bought to aliviate our loss of players thru injury, just about every other club would have. I firmly believe that this year has gone, and will go, just as it was expected to, top eight and anything better a bonus. Those nearing the end of their contracts have been told to wait, those except the young, and that speaks loud to me. I think that there is a cull coming, maybe one bigger than some might expect. Could Ulloa go, yes I think he could, I see him being another Bridcutt, a player we fully expect to get a offer for, and an offer that will be big, very big, and we will take it simply because of the size of that offer. I remain confident that next years squad will look very different from our current one, I think that the, 'Oscar stamp,' will be written all over it. Buckley, Kaz, Greer, Spanish Dave and Bruno, I can see them all gone, and maybe JFC too.Calde might hang on but I doubt it, TK, yep another that might choose to go rather than being let go but I see us signing Ward. Other than Ward all the loanees will be gone. I am predicting a revolution with many casualties and once done, a new squad will emerge younger and hungry for success and with more staying power than some of today's players. We could have strengthened this squad but chose not to, I don't think that was mismanagement, that was deliberate and for a reason. VegasSeagull

11:51pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Mancgulled says...

oh yeah -- and one of the n=most demoralising things for me is the way that they passed it better than we do ( Like Bournemouth did ) - what has happened to our Spanish style possession game? and if we are going to persist with that philosophy where do people like Andrews come into the picture? and no - that doesnt mean I thought he was noticeably bad tonight ...
oh yeah -- and one of the n=most demoralising things for me is the way that they passed it better than we do ( Like Bournemouth did ) - what has happened to our Spanish style possession game? and if we are going to persist with that philosophy where do people like Andrews come into the picture? and no - that doesnt mean I thought he was noticeably bad tonight ... Mancgulled

12:18am Tue 25 Feb 14

VegasSeagull says...

Why freeloader, why have you come back, it's not for debate as all you do is insult fans, management and players alike, so why did you come back.
Do you understand that there are people from all over the world buying cable or satalite TV with the football channels, people like me, and every time we do the pot to share out among all football clubs grows. A small contribution on my part, but a contribution nne the less. Also people like me buy replica shirts and anything else we want that is Brighton related, a further small contribution. The more hits the Argus web site gets the more they can charge for advertizing, so people like me are also helping the local paper, oh and don't forget the player fees paid by expats and those that live a distance away from Brighton but are still in the UK.

You seem to get some perverted pleasure from be obnocious, the more insulting you can be the better you are self served, I pity you. You talk of your long standing as a supporter of our club, well I think that you are an insult to long standing supporters. I think the time has come to give up on you, you are just not worth the effort.
Why freeloader, why have you come back, it's not for debate as all you do is insult fans, management and players alike, so why did you come back. Do you understand that there are people from all over the world buying cable or satalite TV with the football channels, people like me, and every time we do the pot to share out among all football clubs grows. A small contribution on my part, but a contribution nne the less. Also people like me buy replica shirts and anything else we want that is Brighton related, a further small contribution. The more hits the Argus web site gets the more they can charge for advertizing, so people like me are also helping the local paper, oh and don't forget the player fees paid by expats and those that live a distance away from Brighton but are still in the UK. You seem to get some perverted pleasure from be obnocious, the more insulting you can be the better you are self served, I pity you. You talk of your long standing as a supporter of our club, well I think that you are an insult to long standing supporters. I think the time has come to give up on you, you are just not worth the effort. VegasSeagull

12:22am Tue 25 Feb 14

Swervy says...

As soon as I saw the team selection I knew we would lose no pace or creativity in midfield to slow why was Andrews played in front of ince what is he going to create he should have been the holding midfielder and ince in front at least he breaks forward with pace and power, no pace out wide all about trying to keep the ball and getting nowhere very poor .Also I think correct me if I'm wrong but ulloa was the only player in the first half we paid a transfer fee for all the others are loaners or free transfers or development players ..? not really premeirship ready is it ,starting to feel disheartened think the club is going backwards and to top it of just had a email from the club trying to get me to spend more money on some tat from the shop very poor taste straight after going out of the cup ..it's all about trying to get as much money out of the fans as possible just wrong
As soon as I saw the team selection I knew we would lose no pace or creativity in midfield to slow why was Andrews played in front of ince what is he going to create he should have been the holding midfielder and ince in front at least he breaks forward with pace and power, no pace out wide all about trying to keep the ball and getting nowhere very poor .Also I think correct me if I'm wrong but ulloa was the only player in the first half we paid a transfer fee for all the others are loaners or free transfers or development players ..? not really premeirship ready is it ,starting to feel disheartened think the club is going backwards and to top it of just had a email from the club trying to get me to spend more money on some tat from the shop very poor taste straight after going out of the cup ..it's all about trying to get as much money out of the fans as possible just wrong Swervy

12:42am Tue 25 Feb 14

daveyboy35 says...

Yawn yawn yawn. The team is not good or strong enough! End off, obika, Stephens, Andrews, agustien, lita, etc etc are they gonna get us to the premier league or r we trying to get lucky??!! Teams spend millions and can't get out of this league what makes us think we can on the cheap??????? Like I said earlier there will b no sanctions on ffp
Yawn yawn yawn. The team is not good or strong enough! End off, obika, Stephens, Andrews, agustien, lita, etc etc are they gonna get us to the premier league or r we trying to get lucky??!! Teams spend millions and can't get out of this league what makes us think we can on the cheap??????? Like I said earlier there will b no sanctions on ffp daveyboy35

1:02am Tue 25 Feb 14

gordongull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Do we need three keepers, well yes we do, could we handle having a first and second choice backed up by a DS lad, yeah why not, as you say Mark, we can hit the emergency button if needed.

Mark I think it highly likely that when Oscar joined us Tony and the suits had a holding plan for this year, regardless of what Tony said. I think the idea was to spend only what was crucial to spend. Have a squad good enough to make the year interesting, but in their hearts they knew would not get us promoted. I don't think was a secret kept from Oscar, I am sure that he knew where he stood for this year.
We were all worried last season that Bridcutt might get sold, I am sure that the suits expected someone to come for him this year and pay a price that we would accept. The sale of El-Abd was not forseen but the club couldn't say no to such a loyal servant, he had to be given the chance to leave. Barnes going was on the cards right from the day he didn't sign the new contract offered to him last summer, and Branes knew of Burley's interest, interest that predates this season. We have not really spent money this year, Lita and Obika were or are not expensive loanees, Stephens fee would not have hurt the purse strings and Rodriguez only cost his hello fee.

When you look at the picture as a whole, we have not made a concerted effort to build for promotion but what we have done, is make a huge effort to bring young players thru, these lads have progressed and will continue to do so as we enter the final stages of this year. Yes they got the chance due to loads of injuries but that fact again highlights our controll of spending this year, we could have bought to aliviate our loss of players thru injury, just about every other club would have.

I firmly believe that this year has gone, and will go, just as it was expected to, top eight and anything better a bonus. Those nearing the end of their contracts have been told to wait, those except the young, and that speaks loud to me. I think that there is a cull coming, maybe one bigger than some might expect. Could Ulloa go, yes I think he could, I see him being another Bridcutt, a player we fully expect to get a offer for, and an offer that will be big, very big, and we will take it simply because of the size of that offer.

I remain confident that next years squad will look very different from our current one, I think that the, 'Oscar stamp,' will be written all over it. Buckley, Kaz, Greer, Spanish Dave and Bruno, I can see them all gone, and maybe JFC too.Calde might hang on but I doubt it, TK, yep another that might choose to go rather than being let go but I see us signing Ward. Other than Ward all the loanees will be gone. I am predicting a revolution with many casualties and once done, a new squad will emerge younger and hungry for success and with more staying power than some of today's players. We could have strengthened this squad but chose not to, I don't think that was mismanagement, that was deliberate and for a reason.
If we take that to its logical conclusion, Vegas, we have discovered why Gus Poyet was sacked.
For finishing in the play-offs!
If his brief was to finish seventh or below, and he ignored this and went on to finish fourth, would that not amount to gross misconduct?
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Do we need three keepers, well yes we do, could we handle having a first and second choice backed up by a DS lad, yeah why not, as you say Mark, we can hit the emergency button if needed. Mark I think it highly likely that when Oscar joined us Tony and the suits had a holding plan for this year, regardless of what Tony said. I think the idea was to spend only what was crucial to spend. Have a squad good enough to make the year interesting, but in their hearts they knew would not get us promoted. I don't think was a secret kept from Oscar, I am sure that he knew where he stood for this year. We were all worried last season that Bridcutt might get sold, I am sure that the suits expected someone to come for him this year and pay a price that we would accept. The sale of El-Abd was not forseen but the club couldn't say no to such a loyal servant, he had to be given the chance to leave. Barnes going was on the cards right from the day he didn't sign the new contract offered to him last summer, and Branes knew of Burley's interest, interest that predates this season. We have not really spent money this year, Lita and Obika were or are not expensive loanees, Stephens fee would not have hurt the purse strings and Rodriguez only cost his hello fee. When you look at the picture as a whole, we have not made a concerted effort to build for promotion but what we have done, is make a huge effort to bring young players thru, these lads have progressed and will continue to do so as we enter the final stages of this year. Yes they got the chance due to loads of injuries but that fact again highlights our controll of spending this year, we could have bought to aliviate our loss of players thru injury, just about every other club would have. I firmly believe that this year has gone, and will go, just as it was expected to, top eight and anything better a bonus. Those nearing the end of their contracts have been told to wait, those except the young, and that speaks loud to me. I think that there is a cull coming, maybe one bigger than some might expect. Could Ulloa go, yes I think he could, I see him being another Bridcutt, a player we fully expect to get a offer for, and an offer that will be big, very big, and we will take it simply because of the size of that offer. I remain confident that next years squad will look very different from our current one, I think that the, 'Oscar stamp,' will be written all over it. Buckley, Kaz, Greer, Spanish Dave and Bruno, I can see them all gone, and maybe JFC too.Calde might hang on but I doubt it, TK, yep another that might choose to go rather than being let go but I see us signing Ward. Other than Ward all the loanees will be gone. I am predicting a revolution with many casualties and once done, a new squad will emerge younger and hungry for success and with more staying power than some of today's players. We could have strengthened this squad but chose not to, I don't think that was mismanagement, that was deliberate and for a reason.[/p][/quote]If we take that to its logical conclusion, Vegas, we have discovered why Gus Poyet was sacked. For finishing in the play-offs! If his brief was to finish seventh or below, and he ignored this and went on to finish fourth, would that not amount to gross misconduct? gordongull

1:12am Tue 25 Feb 14

taylord1977 says...

Rodriguez from what I can work out, has always played alongside another forward as the central man, so why are we expecting miracles from him when he is played out wide. I think the other main observation by the commentary team was spot on, we lack pace, if we do not have Lua Lua and buckley (or Marsh) as part of the top three, we lack pace and are unable to break quick and cause players issues, if we are not to make the playoffs, lets hope we can rule ourselves out swiftly and try new tactics / formations in readiness for next season. As far as I know, most teams that win promotion from this league in recent years, play 2 up front and have pacey wingers.
Rodriguez from what I can work out, has always played alongside another forward as the central man, so why are we expecting miracles from him when he is played out wide. I think the other main observation by the commentary team was spot on, we lack pace, if we do not have Lua Lua and buckley (or Marsh) as part of the top three, we lack pace and are unable to break quick and cause players issues, if we are not to make the playoffs, lets hope we can rule ourselves out swiftly and try new tactics / formations in readiness for next season. As far as I know, most teams that win promotion from this league in recent years, play 2 up front and have pacey wingers. taylord1977

1:48am Tue 25 Feb 14

VegasSeagull says...

gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Do we need three keepers, well yes we do, could we handle having a first and second choice backed up by a DS lad, yeah why not, as you say Mark, we can hit the emergency button if needed.

Mark I think it highly likely that when Oscar joined us Tony and the suits had a holding plan for this year, regardless of what Tony said. I think the idea was to spend only what was crucial to spend. Have a squad good enough to make the year interesting, but in their hearts they knew would not get us promoted. I don't think was a secret kept from Oscar, I am sure that he knew where he stood for this year.
We were all worried last season that Bridcutt might get sold, I am sure that the suits expected someone to come for him this year and pay a price that we would accept. The sale of El-Abd was not forseen but the club couldn't say no to such a loyal servant, he had to be given the chance to leave. Barnes going was on the cards right from the day he didn't sign the new contract offered to him last summer, and Branes knew of Burley's interest, interest that predates this season. We have not really spent money this year, Lita and Obika were or are not expensive loanees, Stephens fee would not have hurt the purse strings and Rodriguez only cost his hello fee.

When you look at the picture as a whole, we have not made a concerted effort to build for promotion but what we have done, is make a huge effort to bring young players thru, these lads have progressed and will continue to do so as we enter the final stages of this year. Yes they got the chance due to loads of injuries but that fact again highlights our controll of spending this year, we could have bought to aliviate our loss of players thru injury, just about every other club would have.

I firmly believe that this year has gone, and will go, just as it was expected to, top eight and anything better a bonus. Those nearing the end of their contracts have been told to wait, those except the young, and that speaks loud to me. I think that there is a cull coming, maybe one bigger than some might expect. Could Ulloa go, yes I think he could, I see him being another Bridcutt, a player we fully expect to get a offer for, and an offer that will be big, very big, and we will take it simply because of the size of that offer.

I remain confident that next years squad will look very different from our current one, I think that the, 'Oscar stamp,' will be written all over it. Buckley, Kaz, Greer, Spanish Dave and Bruno, I can see them all gone, and maybe JFC too.Calde might hang on but I doubt it, TK, yep another that might choose to go rather than being let go but I see us signing Ward. Other than Ward all the loanees will be gone. I am predicting a revolution with many casualties and once done, a new squad will emerge younger and hungry for success and with more staying power than some of today's players. We could have strengthened this squad but chose not to, I don't think that was mismanagement, that was deliberate and for a reason.
If we take that to its logical conclusion, Vegas, we have discovered why Gus Poyet was sacked.
For finishing in the play-offs!
If his brief was to finish seventh or below, and he ignored this and went on to finish fourth, would that not amount to gross misconduct?
I am sure that your logic extention to my comment is a tad, 'tounge in cheek.'
Poyet was largely given the funds he asked for to sign the players he wanted, we simply fell at the last hurdle.Alot of the guys Poyet signed are still with us today, and it is my belief that, one way or another, many of them will be gone next season. We have to renegotiate new contracts for those we will keep, if they want to stay, and some will probably be paid off. Some of those with expiring contracts will find that they are not being renewed.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Do we need three keepers, well yes we do, could we handle having a first and second choice backed up by a DS lad, yeah why not, as you say Mark, we can hit the emergency button if needed. Mark I think it highly likely that when Oscar joined us Tony and the suits had a holding plan for this year, regardless of what Tony said. I think the idea was to spend only what was crucial to spend. Have a squad good enough to make the year interesting, but in their hearts they knew would not get us promoted. I don't think was a secret kept from Oscar, I am sure that he knew where he stood for this year. We were all worried last season that Bridcutt might get sold, I am sure that the suits expected someone to come for him this year and pay a price that we would accept. The sale of El-Abd was not forseen but the club couldn't say no to such a loyal servant, he had to be given the chance to leave. Barnes going was on the cards right from the day he didn't sign the new contract offered to him last summer, and Branes knew of Burley's interest, interest that predates this season. We have not really spent money this year, Lita and Obika were or are not expensive loanees, Stephens fee would not have hurt the purse strings and Rodriguez only cost his hello fee. When you look at the picture as a whole, we have not made a concerted effort to build for promotion but what we have done, is make a huge effort to bring young players thru, these lads have progressed and will continue to do so as we enter the final stages of this year. Yes they got the chance due to loads of injuries but that fact again highlights our controll of spending this year, we could have bought to aliviate our loss of players thru injury, just about every other club would have. I firmly believe that this year has gone, and will go, just as it was expected to, top eight and anything better a bonus. Those nearing the end of their contracts have been told to wait, those except the young, and that speaks loud to me. I think that there is a cull coming, maybe one bigger than some might expect. Could Ulloa go, yes I think he could, I see him being another Bridcutt, a player we fully expect to get a offer for, and an offer that will be big, very big, and we will take it simply because of the size of that offer. I remain confident that next years squad will look very different from our current one, I think that the, 'Oscar stamp,' will be written all over it. Buckley, Kaz, Greer, Spanish Dave and Bruno, I can see them all gone, and maybe JFC too.Calde might hang on but I doubt it, TK, yep another that might choose to go rather than being let go but I see us signing Ward. Other than Ward all the loanees will be gone. I am predicting a revolution with many casualties and once done, a new squad will emerge younger and hungry for success and with more staying power than some of today's players. We could have strengthened this squad but chose not to, I don't think that was mismanagement, that was deliberate and for a reason.[/p][/quote]If we take that to its logical conclusion, Vegas, we have discovered why Gus Poyet was sacked. For finishing in the play-offs! If his brief was to finish seventh or below, and he ignored this and went on to finish fourth, would that not amount to gross misconduct?[/p][/quote]I am sure that your logic extention to my comment is a tad, 'tounge in cheek.' Poyet was largely given the funds he asked for to sign the players he wanted, we simply fell at the last hurdle.Alot of the guys Poyet signed are still with us today, and it is my belief that, one way or another, many of them will be gone next season. We have to renegotiate new contracts for those we will keep, if they want to stay, and some will probably be paid off. Some of those with expiring contracts will find that they are not being renewed. VegasSeagull

2:54am Tue 25 Feb 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Do we need three keepers, well yes we do, could we handle having a first and second choice backed up by a DS lad, yeah why not, as you say Mark, we can hit the emergency button if needed.

Mark I think it highly likely that when Oscar joined us Tony and the suits had a holding plan for this year, regardless of what Tony said. I think the idea was to spend only what was crucial to spend. Have a squad good enough to make the year interesting, but in their hearts they knew would not get us promoted. I don't think was a secret kept from Oscar, I am sure that he knew where he stood for this year.
We were all worried last season that Bridcutt might get sold, I am sure that the suits expected someone to come for him this year and pay a price that we would accept. The sale of El-Abd was not forseen but the club couldn't say no to such a loyal servant, he had to be given the chance to leave. Barnes going was on the cards right from the day he didn't sign the new contract offered to him last summer, and Branes knew of Burley's interest, interest that predates this season. We have not really spent money this year, Lita and Obika were or are not expensive loanees, Stephens fee would not have hurt the purse strings and Rodriguez only cost his hello fee.

When you look at the picture as a whole, we have not made a concerted effort to build for promotion but what we have done, is make a huge effort to bring young players thru, these lads have progressed and will continue to do so as we enter the final stages of this year. Yes they got the chance due to loads of injuries but that fact again highlights our controll of spending this year, we could have bought to aliviate our loss of players thru injury, just about every other club would have.

I firmly believe that this year has gone, and will go, just as it was expected to, top eight and anything better a bonus. Those nearing the end of their contracts have been told to wait, those except the young, and that speaks loud to me. I think that there is a cull coming, maybe one bigger than some might expect. Could Ulloa go, yes I think he could, I see him being another Bridcutt, a player we fully expect to get a offer for, and an offer that will be big, very big, and we will take it simply because of the size of that offer.

I remain confident that next years squad will look very different from our current one, I think that the, 'Oscar stamp,' will be written all over it. Buckley, Kaz, Greer, Spanish Dave and Bruno, I can see them all gone, and maybe JFC too.Calde might hang on but I doubt it, TK, yep another that might choose to go rather than being let go but I see us signing Ward. Other than Ward all the loanees will be gone. I am predicting a revolution with many casualties and once done, a new squad will emerge younger and hungry for success and with more staying power than some of today's players. We could have strengthened this squad but chose not to, I don't think that was mismanagement, that was deliberate and for a reason.
If we take that to its logical conclusion, Vegas, we have discovered why Gus Poyet was sacked.
For finishing in the play-offs!
If his brief was to finish seventh or below, and he ignored this and went on to finish fourth, would that not amount to gross misconduct?
I am sure that your logic extention to my comment is a tad, 'tounge in cheek.'
Poyet was largely given the funds he asked for to sign the players he wanted, we simply fell at the last hurdle.Alot of the guys Poyet signed are still with us today, and it is my belief that, one way or another, many of them will be gone next season. We have to renegotiate new contracts for those we will keep, if they want to stay, and some will probably be paid off. Some of those with expiring contracts will find that they are not being renewed.
You may be right Vegas, what concerns me is what's coming to replace them? Dave 2 , augustin , Andrews are not good enough, but they draw wages, Gus had a revolution and brought in quality, due to this we sold 24000 season tickets..... I am not confident OG will have a say in the players coming in,,
I can't see the philosophy behind OG , this talk of youth development are all Gus players...
The idea of allowing good quality players to leave , to replace them by Burke scares me,
We have higher crowds than some in the premier , pay more than some in the premier... And we pay in advance!
This revolution you say we are going to embark on? Based on what can you see better players coming in?
Better performances?
Better results?
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Do we need three keepers, well yes we do, could we handle having a first and second choice backed up by a DS lad, yeah why not, as you say Mark, we can hit the emergency button if needed. Mark I think it highly likely that when Oscar joined us Tony and the suits had a holding plan for this year, regardless of what Tony said. I think the idea was to spend only what was crucial to spend. Have a squad good enough to make the year interesting, but in their hearts they knew would not get us promoted. I don't think was a secret kept from Oscar, I am sure that he knew where he stood for this year. We were all worried last season that Bridcutt might get sold, I am sure that the suits expected someone to come for him this year and pay a price that we would accept. The sale of El-Abd was not forseen but the club couldn't say no to such a loyal servant, he had to be given the chance to leave. Barnes going was on the cards right from the day he didn't sign the new contract offered to him last summer, and Branes knew of Burley's interest, interest that predates this season. We have not really spent money this year, Lita and Obika were or are not expensive loanees, Stephens fee would not have hurt the purse strings and Rodriguez only cost his hello fee. When you look at the picture as a whole, we have not made a concerted effort to build for promotion but what we have done, is make a huge effort to bring young players thru, these lads have progressed and will continue to do so as we enter the final stages of this year. Yes they got the chance due to loads of injuries but that fact again highlights our controll of spending this year, we could have bought to aliviate our loss of players thru injury, just about every other club would have. I firmly believe that this year has gone, and will go, just as it was expected to, top eight and anything better a bonus. Those nearing the end of their contracts have been told to wait, those except the young, and that speaks loud to me. I think that there is a cull coming, maybe one bigger than some might expect. Could Ulloa go, yes I think he could, I see him being another Bridcutt, a player we fully expect to get a offer for, and an offer that will be big, very big, and we will take it simply because of the size of that offer. I remain confident that next years squad will look very different from our current one, I think that the, 'Oscar stamp,' will be written all over it. Buckley, Kaz, Greer, Spanish Dave and Bruno, I can see them all gone, and maybe JFC too.Calde might hang on but I doubt it, TK, yep another that might choose to go rather than being let go but I see us signing Ward. Other than Ward all the loanees will be gone. I am predicting a revolution with many casualties and once done, a new squad will emerge younger and hungry for success and with more staying power than some of today's players. We could have strengthened this squad but chose not to, I don't think that was mismanagement, that was deliberate and for a reason.[/p][/quote]If we take that to its logical conclusion, Vegas, we have discovered why Gus Poyet was sacked. For finishing in the play-offs! If his brief was to finish seventh or below, and he ignored this and went on to finish fourth, would that not amount to gross misconduct?[/p][/quote]I am sure that your logic extention to my comment is a tad, 'tounge in cheek.' Poyet was largely given the funds he asked for to sign the players he wanted, we simply fell at the last hurdle.Alot of the guys Poyet signed are still with us today, and it is my belief that, one way or another, many of them will be gone next season. We have to renegotiate new contracts for those we will keep, if they want to stay, and some will probably be paid off. Some of those with expiring contracts will find that they are not being renewed.[/p][/quote]You may be right Vegas, what concerns me is what's coming to replace them? Dave 2 , augustin , Andrews are not good enough, but they draw wages, Gus had a revolution and brought in quality, due to this we sold 24000 season tickets..... I am not confident OG will have a say in the players coming in,, I can't see the philosophy behind OG , this talk of youth development are all Gus players... The idea of allowing good quality players to leave , to replace them by Burke scares me, We have higher crowds than some in the premier , pay more than some in the premier... And we pay in advance! This revolution you say we are going to embark on? Based on what can you see better players coming in? Better performances? Better results? mark by the sea

8:47am Tue 25 Feb 14

Aldrington Halt says...

Claude Back wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Alfie T wrote:
Aldrington Halt wrote:
Showed nerve and talent in the second half to keep Hull on their toes until the final whistle thanks to confidence restored by Leo's nice header but we seemed to be generally lacking the collective energy or desire required to win tonight, we back passed quite a lot and Oscar took his sweet time sending on reinforcements to try and get even. There was however some quality moves and passing tonight and great link up play under pressure, shame Dunk's volley never hit the net thought he generally had a good game, looks strong and deserves more first team playing time. Hull were fortunate for their offside goal and JFC was too short to be man on post and was in Brez's way so fortune smiled on Hull who were pretty solid tonight.Seagulls!!
Not sure why you got a thumbs down Aldrington, good accurate and realistic post. If anyone was left wondering then JFC's performance tonight showed he is a div 1 player at best.
Anyone who makes even a slightly positive comment is getting marked down. It's that kind of troll-fest night.
So, all your geese are swans, are they?
Sorry, but if you cannot see the problems this team and management have then you must have very little Football knowledge which might account for why you are always sniping at MTBS and others.
Ignore the trolls, scroll past! It's always a pleasure to read the opinions and feelings of real fans on here, those who are positive and some who are negative but are united by their love of Brighton and Hove Albion F.C. and lets face it if it wasn't for the unconditional love of seagulls fans worldwide we would be a 5 a side game in a Toys R us car park! There are so many parameters and variables involved in creating a successful football team which is why opinions can differ so much on what we should be doing next..Personally it seems those who critique the lone striker policy have a point and Dave2 and Obika could have been put to better use here paired up or with Ulloa for a potentially more successful attitude in a cup game which if we weren't serious about winning then why not try out some change in attacking tactics? I like what Oscars ways have done with the resiliance of the team compared with under Poyet when they would visibly crumble apart after conceding a goal from an simple error. This team bounces back quicker and has self belief which is positive but maybe it's Oscar who is only in his 2nd 1st team job who needs to gain confidence in himself..
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aldrington Halt[/bold] wrote: Showed nerve and talent in the second half to keep Hull on their toes until the final whistle thanks to confidence restored by Leo's nice header but we seemed to be generally lacking the collective energy or desire required to win tonight, we back passed quite a lot and Oscar took his sweet time sending on reinforcements to try and get even. There was however some quality moves and passing tonight and great link up play under pressure, shame Dunk's volley never hit the net thought he generally had a good game, looks strong and deserves more first team playing time. Hull were fortunate for their offside goal and JFC was too short to be man on post and was in Brez's way so fortune smiled on Hull who were pretty solid tonight.Seagulls!![/p][/quote]Not sure why you got a thumbs down Aldrington, good accurate and realistic post. If anyone was left wondering then JFC's performance tonight showed he is a div 1 player at best.[/p][/quote]Anyone who makes even a slightly positive comment is getting marked down. It's that kind of troll-fest night.[/p][/quote]So, all your geese are swans, are they? Sorry, but if you cannot see the problems this team and management have then you must have very little Football knowledge which might account for why you are always sniping at MTBS and others.[/p][/quote]Ignore the trolls, scroll past! It's always a pleasure to read the opinions and feelings of real fans on here, those who are positive and some who are negative but are united by their love of Brighton and Hove Albion F.C. and lets face it if it wasn't for the unconditional love of seagulls fans worldwide we would be a 5 a side game in a Toys R us car park! There are so many parameters and variables involved in creating a successful football team which is why opinions can differ so much on what we should be doing next..Personally it seems those who critique the lone striker policy have a point and Dave2 and Obika could have been put to better use here paired up or with Ulloa for a potentially more successful attitude in a cup game which if we weren't serious about winning then why not try out some change in attacking tactics? I like what Oscars ways have done with the resiliance of the team compared with under Poyet when they would visibly crumble apart after conceding a goal from an simple error. This team bounces back quicker and has self belief which is positive but maybe it's Oscar who is only in his 2nd 1st team job who needs to gain confidence in himself.. Aldrington Halt

8:51am Tue 25 Feb 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

albion64 wrote:
Look, if we really wanted to win this tie, we could of. Putting in reserve team players against a prem team was never gonna work. Brezovan did absolutely no favours for his team mates. Whether the 2nd goal was deflected or not, he showed no presence from the start. He's nearly 7ft tall. for fecks sake.
Well done to the 300 who made the trip. UTA
Totally agree.Daily mail gave Brezovan a rating of 4.5 which I think is the lowest I,ve seen! Get rid.Still cannot understand why a supposed weakened team was fielded when you should always play your strongest.Cannot help feeling that had Kuz been in goal the result may have been different.Goalkeeper
s do not need a rest as much as outfield players!
[quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: Look, if we really wanted to win this tie, we could of. Putting in reserve team players against a prem team was never gonna work. Brezovan did absolutely no favours for his team mates. Whether the 2nd goal was deflected or not, he showed no presence from the start. He's nearly 7ft tall. for fecks sake. Well done to the 300 who made the trip. UTA[/p][/quote]Totally agree.Daily mail gave Brezovan a rating of 4.5 which I think is the lowest I,ve seen! Get rid.Still cannot understand why a supposed weakened team was fielded when you should always play your strongest.Cannot help feeling that had Kuz been in goal the result may have been different.Goalkeeper s do not need a rest as much as outfield players! SeagullOverSelsey

10:03am Tue 25 Feb 14

the taffster says...

don't blame brez....blame Oscar for picking him.........everyone at the club knows hes poor in the 18 yard box....why play a reserve team agatnst hull in both legs?.....we looked too predictable and one dimensional.....taxi for Oscar please.....laudrup is available still...its gone stale since poyet left.....
don't blame brez....blame Oscar for picking him.........everyone at the club knows hes poor in the 18 yard box....why play a reserve team agatnst hull in both legs?.....we looked too predictable and one dimensional.....taxi for Oscar please.....laudrup is available still...its gone stale since poyet left..... the taffster

1:40pm Tue 25 Feb 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

Claude Back wrote:
lowerbeedingseagull wrote:
Does anyone share my concern about the tactical skills or lack of them by the current management team? I'm afraid they do nothing to inspire me. Into the car now for a nice drive home, thank you to all at B&HA for making my trip so memorable!!!
Yes, I do and so do quite a few others with discernment.
We will win nothing with OG. His team selection and formations are clueless even with choosing from only available players. I just hope Tony sees the light and abandons this fad of 'Continental' style management and playing with a lone striker and gets a proper manager who buys and selects his own players. Yes, you can thumbs down all you want but we are not good enough for promotion and won't get it this season. That's why playing Brez in goal for a valuable tie like this was almost negligent. I'm not speaking after the event, either. I said on here the other day that Brez 'was an accident waiting to happen' and anyone with any Football nous would know that.
100 per cent agree!
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lowerbeedingseagull[/bold] wrote: Does anyone share my concern about the tactical skills or lack of them by the current management team? I'm afraid they do nothing to inspire me. Into the car now for a nice drive home, thank you to all at B&HA for making my trip so memorable!!![/p][/quote]Yes, I do and so do quite a few others with discernment. We will win nothing with OG. His team selection and formations are clueless even with choosing from only available players. I just hope Tony sees the light and abandons this fad of 'Continental' style management and playing with a lone striker and gets a proper manager who buys and selects his own players. Yes, you can thumbs down all you want but we are not good enough for promotion and won't get it this season. That's why playing Brez in goal for a valuable tie like this was almost negligent. I'm not speaking after the event, either. I said on here the other day that Brez 'was an accident waiting to happen' and anyone with any Football nous would know that.[/p][/quote]100 per cent agree! SeagullOverSelsey

10:58am Fri 28 Feb 14

Captain Haddock says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Do we need three keepers, well yes we do, could we handle having a first and second choice backed up by a DS lad, yeah why not, as you say Mark, we can hit the emergency button if needed.

Mark I think it highly likely that when Oscar joined us Tony and the suits had a holding plan for this year, regardless of what Tony said. I think the idea was to spend only what was crucial to spend. Have a squad good enough to make the year interesting, but in their hearts they knew would not get us promoted. I don't think was a secret kept from Oscar, I am sure that he knew where he stood for this year.
We were all worried last season that Bridcutt might get sold, I am sure that the suits expected someone to come for him this year and pay a price that we would accept. The sale of El-Abd was not forseen but the club couldn't say no to such a loyal servant, he had to be given the chance to leave. Barnes going was on the cards right from the day he didn't sign the new contract offered to him last summer, and Branes knew of Burley's interest, interest that predates this season. We have not really spent money this year, Lita and Obika were or are not expensive loanees, Stephens fee would not have hurt the purse strings and Rodriguez only cost his hello fee.

When you look at the picture as a whole, we have not made a concerted effort to build for promotion but what we have done, is make a huge effort to bring young players thru, these lads have progressed and will continue to do so as we enter the final stages of this year. Yes they got the chance due to loads of injuries but that fact again highlights our controll of spending this year, we could have bought to aliviate our loss of players thru injury, just about every other club would have.

I firmly believe that this year has gone, and will go, just as it was expected to, top eight and anything better a bonus. Those nearing the end of their contracts have been told to wait, those except the young, and that speaks loud to me. I think that there is a cull coming, maybe one bigger than some might expect. Could Ulloa go, yes I think he could, I see him being another Bridcutt, a player we fully expect to get a offer for, and an offer that will be big, very big, and we will take it simply because of the size of that offer.

I remain confident that next years squad will look very different from our current one, I think that the, 'Oscar stamp,' will be written all over it. Buckley, Kaz, Greer, Spanish Dave and Bruno, I can see them all gone, and maybe JFC too.Calde might hang on but I doubt it, TK, yep another that might choose to go rather than being let go but I see us signing Ward. Other than Ward all the loanees will be gone. I am predicting a revolution with many casualties and once done, a new squad will emerge younger and hungry for success and with more staying power than some of today's players. We could have strengthened this squad but chose not to, I don't think that was mismanagement, that was deliberate and for a reason.
What an excellent post, Vegas. I'm not quite so sure about Ulloa leaving yet but aside from that the rest of your prophecies could well become manifest.

Either way I certainly agree with the notion of your "holding plan" with promotion this year a bonus only.

TB plays the long game and always weighs up the odds and the prevailing details.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Do we need three keepers, well yes we do, could we handle having a first and second choice backed up by a DS lad, yeah why not, as you say Mark, we can hit the emergency button if needed. Mark I think it highly likely that when Oscar joined us Tony and the suits had a holding plan for this year, regardless of what Tony said. I think the idea was to spend only what was crucial to spend. Have a squad good enough to make the year interesting, but in their hearts they knew would not get us promoted. I don't think was a secret kept from Oscar, I am sure that he knew where he stood for this year. We were all worried last season that Bridcutt might get sold, I am sure that the suits expected someone to come for him this year and pay a price that we would accept. The sale of El-Abd was not forseen but the club couldn't say no to such a loyal servant, he had to be given the chance to leave. Barnes going was on the cards right from the day he didn't sign the new contract offered to him last summer, and Branes knew of Burley's interest, interest that predates this season. We have not really spent money this year, Lita and Obika were or are not expensive loanees, Stephens fee would not have hurt the purse strings and Rodriguez only cost his hello fee. When you look at the picture as a whole, we have not made a concerted effort to build for promotion but what we have done, is make a huge effort to bring young players thru, these lads have progressed and will continue to do so as we enter the final stages of this year. Yes they got the chance due to loads of injuries but that fact again highlights our controll of spending this year, we could have bought to aliviate our loss of players thru injury, just about every other club would have. I firmly believe that this year has gone, and will go, just as it was expected to, top eight and anything better a bonus. Those nearing the end of their contracts have been told to wait, those except the young, and that speaks loud to me. I think that there is a cull coming, maybe one bigger than some might expect. Could Ulloa go, yes I think he could, I see him being another Bridcutt, a player we fully expect to get a offer for, and an offer that will be big, very big, and we will take it simply because of the size of that offer. I remain confident that next years squad will look very different from our current one, I think that the, 'Oscar stamp,' will be written all over it. Buckley, Kaz, Greer, Spanish Dave and Bruno, I can see them all gone, and maybe JFC too.Calde might hang on but I doubt it, TK, yep another that might choose to go rather than being let go but I see us signing Ward. Other than Ward all the loanees will be gone. I am predicting a revolution with many casualties and once done, a new squad will emerge younger and hungry for success and with more staying power than some of today's players. We could have strengthened this squad but chose not to, I don't think that was mismanagement, that was deliberate and for a reason.[/p][/quote]What an excellent post, Vegas. I'm not quite so sure about Ulloa leaving yet but aside from that the rest of your prophecies could well become manifest. Either way I certainly agree with the notion of your "holding plan" with promotion this year a bonus only. TB plays the long game and always weighs up the odds and the prevailing details. Captain Haddock

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