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Cup exit was such an anti-climax for Albion

The Argus: Leo Ulloa pulled a goal back in the second half but it wasn't enough Leo Ulloa pulled a goal back in the second half but it wasn't enough

Nathan Jones has branded Albion’s FA Cup exit an anti-climax after a poor first half performance at Hull cost them the chance of a reunion with former manager Gus Poyet.

Hull’s 2-1 victory in last night’s fifth round replay at the KC Stadium clinched an all-Premier League quarter-final at home to Poyet’s Sunderland for Steve Bruce’s side.

Jones was lamenting the Seagulls’ display in the opening 45 minutes as they trailed to two soft goals from a corner and free-kick before Leo Ulloa pulled a goal back after the break.

The assistant head coach admitted: “It felt like a little bit of an anti-climax in the first half, with the way we have played in this campaign and especially the way we played at home in the first game against Hull.

“The first half performance wasn’t us and we haven’t played like that for a while, so it’s disappointing to come and do that in such a big game.

“We showed what we are about in the second half and if we had done that for the full 90 it might have been a different outcome but it’s all ifs. It was a mountain to climb against a good Premier League side. You can’t give sides like that a 2-0 lead.”

Ulloa, who nodded his fifth goal in as many games, and veteran centre-half Matt Upson both started and finished the match, 48 hours after the home defeat by Wigan.

Jones said: “Leo was fit, he was ready to play and he’s in fantastic form. People want to play. Matty Upson wanted to play, so it was an important game for us, a fantastic opportunity to do something special and that is why the first half performance was a little bit of an anti-climax.”

Rohan Ince, withdrawn during the second half, has joined Andrea Orlandi (ankle) and Will Buckley (hamstring) on the casualty list ahead of Saturday’s trip to Millwall.

Jones said: “He just rolled his ankle slightly. We’ll have to monitor that, because he’s an important player for us. He was struggling towards the end.”

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5:43am Tue 25 Feb 14

namgo49 says...

We are in a mess if Ince is out injured for Millwall. He shone out last night in an otherwise poor Albion side. The rest of the midfield was non existent in both halves. Can't understand Obika coming on for one minute, why bother. Rodriquez is not up to it nor F-C.

We desperately need Orlandi, Buckley, CMS fit and playing regularly. Season is drifting away to a mid table finish me thinks.
We are in a mess if Ince is out injured for Millwall. He shone out last night in an otherwise poor Albion side. The rest of the midfield was non existent in both halves. Can't understand Obika coming on for one minute, why bother. Rodriquez is not up to it nor F-C. We desperately need Orlandi, Buckley, CMS fit and playing regularly. Season is drifting away to a mid table finish me thinks. namgo49
  • Score: 19

5:45am Tue 25 Feb 14

namgo49 says...

And another thing, we need to sort out the goalkeeping situation. TK will walk and PB & CA are not up to it at this level. PB was an embarrassment last night.
And another thing, we need to sort out the goalkeeping situation. TK will walk and PB & CA are not up to it at this level. PB was an embarrassment last night. namgo49
  • Score: 37

6:01am Tue 25 Feb 14

Albion In Staffs says...

The first half performance was so abysmal, I questioned OG's ability to get a reaction out of the players as well as his overall strength of character and I said so on here. I'm happy to eat humble over that observation.
What I still find disappointing though is the fact that Hull were clearly there for the taking in both games.
I'm beginning to conclude that OG is trying to play HIS style with someone else's players and anyone who has come in under him so far, has just been landfill.
In the summer, he didn't really know the squad and in January, the market is simply full of more landfill.
I'd expect him to start making his mark in the summer and for reasons other than just last night, I can't see us improving enough to make the top 6.
It would appear for now that we've hit that ceiling.....
The first half performance was so abysmal, I questioned OG's ability to get a reaction out of the players as well as his overall strength of character and I said so on here. I'm happy to eat humble over that observation. What I still find disappointing though is the fact that Hull were clearly there for the taking in both games. I'm beginning to conclude that OG is trying to play HIS style with someone else's players and anyone who has come in under him so far, has just been landfill. In the summer, he didn't really know the squad and in January, the market is simply full of more landfill. I'd expect him to start making his mark in the summer and for reasons other than just last night, I can't see us improving enough to make the top 6. It would appear for now that we've hit that ceiling..... Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 23

7:08am Tue 25 Feb 14

SonnyJim55 says...

Was just awful, fair play to those fans who made the trip, they are the ones I feel sorry for. Never mind covering the cost of the ticket, the players and management should be covering their road trip costs too. Ill say it again, awful!
Was just awful, fair play to those fans who made the trip, they are the ones I feel sorry for. Never mind covering the cost of the ticket, the players and management should be covering their road trip costs too. Ill say it again, awful! SonnyJim55
  • Score: 15

7:49am Tue 25 Feb 14

mark by the sea says...

I feel we have given up this season, what worries me is the quality coming here since Gus left, ince. And march were both here prior to Gus going,
If this big clear out comes, are we going to sign Andrews ? Rodders ..
No doubt spurs will allow obika a free transfer ... Will jones snap him up?
The big question is over Leo .. On this form 6-7 million bids will come in, are we going to say no? I have feeling he will want to join the premier league... And no doubt we would not want to stand in his way.
Bitterly disappointed with things since January .
I feel we have given up this season, what worries me is the quality coming here since Gus left, ince. And march were both here prior to Gus going, If this big clear out comes, are we going to sign Andrews ? Rodders .. No doubt spurs will allow obika a free transfer ... Will jones snap him up? The big question is over Leo .. On this form 6-7 million bids will come in, are we going to say no? I have feeling he will want to join the premier league... And no doubt we would not want to stand in his way. Bitterly disappointed with things since January . mark by the sea
  • Score: -2

8:05am Tue 25 Feb 14

graham w says...

Cheer up mark, you will feel better at 16.50 on sat. Im one of 2500 going to millwall.3point will make us all feel better after those two very soft goals. Brezo to blame...Uta...seagul
ls. ...
Cheer up mark, you will feel better at 16.50 on sat. Im one of 2500 going to millwall.3point will make us all feel better after those two very soft goals. Brezo to blame...Uta...seagul ls. ... graham w
  • Score: 10

8:05am Tue 25 Feb 14

graham w says...

Cheer up mark, you will feel better at 16.50 on sat. Im one of 2500 going to millwall.3point will make us all feel better after those two very soft goals. Brezo to blame...Uta...seagul
ls. ...
Cheer up mark, you will feel better at 16.50 on sat. Im one of 2500 going to millwall.3point will make us all feel better after those two very soft goals. Brezo to blame...Uta...seagul ls. ... graham w
  • Score: -2

8:05am Tue 25 Feb 14

graham w says...

Cheer up mark, you will feel better at 16.50 on sat. Im one of 2500 going to millwall.3point will make us all feel better after those two very soft goals. Brezo to blame...Uta...seagul
ls. ...
Cheer up mark, you will feel better at 16.50 on sat. Im one of 2500 going to millwall.3point will make us all feel better after those two very soft goals. Brezo to blame...Uta...seagul ls. ... graham w
  • Score: -2

8:06am Tue 25 Feb 14

Albion In Staffs says...

mark by the sea wrote:
I feel we have given up this season, what worries me is the quality coming here since Gus left, ince. And march were both here prior to Gus going,
If this big clear out comes, are we going to sign Andrews ? Rodders ..
No doubt spurs will allow obika a free transfer ... Will jones snap him up?
The big question is over Leo .. On this form 6-7 million bids will come in, are we going to say no? I have feeling he will want to join the premier league... And no doubt we would not want to stand in his way.
Bitterly disappointed with things since January .
Despite what I said below, as a fan I still live in hope for this season, although perhaps not expectation, and if Championship football next year becomes more likely in the coming weeks, I'd hope people begin doing their sums for the summer sooner rather than later.
Surely there'll be a cheery 'thank you' to the likes of Andrews and Rodriguez as we send them on their merry way and if other clubs can hang onto their star players we can too.
On that basis, I'd expect the 'selling' job to them and their agents to be going on right now and commitment from them - or not - would be an indication of our overall intentions next season.
All in all, I remain a hopeful optimist with a hint of realism thrown in for extra depth of flavour...
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I feel we have given up this season, what worries me is the quality coming here since Gus left, ince. And march were both here prior to Gus going, If this big clear out comes, are we going to sign Andrews ? Rodders .. No doubt spurs will allow obika a free transfer ... Will jones snap him up? The big question is over Leo .. On this form 6-7 million bids will come in, are we going to say no? I have feeling he will want to join the premier league... And no doubt we would not want to stand in his way. Bitterly disappointed with things since January .[/p][/quote]Despite what I said below, as a fan I still live in hope for this season, although perhaps not expectation, and if Championship football next year becomes more likely in the coming weeks, I'd hope people begin doing their sums for the summer sooner rather than later. Surely there'll be a cheery 'thank you' to the likes of Andrews and Rodriguez as we send them on their merry way and if other clubs can hang onto their star players we can too. On that basis, I'd expect the 'selling' job to them and their agents to be going on right now and commitment from them - or not - would be an indication of our overall intentions next season. All in all, I remain a hopeful optimist with a hint of realism thrown in for extra depth of flavour... Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 1

8:10am Tue 25 Feb 14

Steveg1958 says...

Never fear, NJ can find more crap signings that he has coached in league 1, and Mr Barber will sell Leo, TK, and Ince. and will bring us into line with FFP,
Just don't expect promotion to the Premier league anytime soon.
I dread to think what Mullers would have done to that lot at half time !, remember Walsall all those years ago ? night match at the Goldstone, nil nil at half time,players booted straight back out onto pitch after a roasting to stand in the rain and scored seven (yes seven) in the second half, that's the kind of attitude I like to see, not "Oh dear guys are you feeling tired ? come in and have a cuppa and sit in the warm", Rubbish PURE RUBBISH, club should give those 300 fan their travelling costs back.
Never fear, NJ can find more crap signings that he has coached in league 1, and Mr Barber will sell Leo, TK, and Ince. and will bring us into line with FFP, Just don't expect promotion to the Premier league anytime soon. I dread to think what Mullers would have done to that lot at half time !, remember Walsall all those years ago ? night match at the Goldstone, nil nil at half time,players booted straight back out onto pitch after a roasting to stand in the rain and scored seven (yes seven) in the second half, that's the kind of attitude I like to see, not "Oh dear guys are you feeling tired ? come in and have a cuppa and sit in the warm", Rubbish PURE RUBBISH, club should give those 300 fan their travelling costs back. Steveg1958
  • Score: -4

8:47am Tue 25 Feb 14

pablobrowno says...

mark by the sea wrote:
I feel we have given up this season, what worries me is the quality coming here since Gus left, ince. And march were both here prior to Gus going,
If this big clear out comes, are we going to sign Andrews ? Rodders ..
No doubt spurs will allow obika a free transfer ... Will jones snap him up?
The big question is over Leo .. On this form 6-7 million bids will come in, are we going to say no? I have feeling he will want to join the premier league... And no doubt we would not want to stand in his way.
Bitterly disappointed with things since January .
Sadly I agree mark. January really signalled our intent.... Our intent to make do with players who aren't up to it. I know Bridcutt was always likely to go, but if we were really serious about promotion why was a buy and loan back deal not done? I always said we would miss Barnes, and we know he wasn't prolific but he had steel...Rodders seems to have...wool.

I worry about the impact that January had on the squad too, we had players actually asking (albeit responding to questions mainly) the board to strengthen the team! I don't think they actually have the belief they are strong enough to make a serious challenge.

What on earth are we going to do with Buckley? Is he ever going to recover?! Why did we hear nothing about trying to sign Conway? Why is everybody injured?!!!

Concerned that this trend will continue, hope I am very wrong.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I feel we have given up this season, what worries me is the quality coming here since Gus left, ince. And march were both here prior to Gus going, If this big clear out comes, are we going to sign Andrews ? Rodders .. No doubt spurs will allow obika a free transfer ... Will jones snap him up? The big question is over Leo .. On this form 6-7 million bids will come in, are we going to say no? I have feeling he will want to join the premier league... And no doubt we would not want to stand in his way. Bitterly disappointed with things since January .[/p][/quote]Sadly I agree mark. January really signalled our intent.... Our intent to make do with players who aren't up to it. I know Bridcutt was always likely to go, but if we were really serious about promotion why was a buy and loan back deal not done? I always said we would miss Barnes, and we know he wasn't prolific but he had steel...Rodders seems to have...wool. I worry about the impact that January had on the squad too, we had players actually asking (albeit responding to questions mainly) the board to strengthen the team! I don't think they actually have the belief they are strong enough to make a serious challenge. What on earth are we going to do with Buckley? Is he ever going to recover?! Why did we hear nothing about trying to sign Conway? Why is everybody injured?!!! Concerned that this trend will continue, hope I am very wrong. pablobrowno
  • Score: 5

8:50am Tue 25 Feb 14

Asleep in Dorset says...

Should have been sorted last Monday, well done the brave 300 who turned up, shame it took the players 45 minutes longer !
Should have been sorted last Monday, well done the brave 300 who turned up, shame it took the players 45 minutes longer ! Asleep in Dorset
  • Score: 5

8:52am Tue 25 Feb 14

elljam says...

I've always given Oscar the benefit of the doubt as I feel this season's signings were probably not down to him plus the fact that he didn't inherit players with the pace & energy required to play the pressing game he told us he likes.
However after watching last night I realise that some of the problems are down to him because he is just too cautious. After scoring, did we really look like we were having a go & gambling to get the equaliser. Nothing seemed to change & at 2-1 with 10/15 minutes left it looked more like we were defending a lead & Hull were trying to get the equaliser.
We all know Obika is not the answer but just to have an extra body in the opponents half for the last 15/20 minutes would have showed some intent . To play him for 2 minutes was farcical & seemed to show that Oscar would rather have lost 2-1 than risk a bigger defeat by going all out for an equaliser. This mindset concerns me !
I have moaned about Greer playing too deep before but on one occasion deep into the 2nd half Steve Harper cleared a pass back from his own goal line & Dunk/Upson were still nearer our own penalty box than the half way line. I've come to the conclusion that Oscar is happy for them to consistently defend this deep as he's has had long enough to address this situation. Every team that has come to the Amex this season has defended with a higher line than we do & allowed their midfield/strikers to play higher up the pitch. It's no surprise that we have a very good defensive record as for large periods of many games we have 9 outfield players deep inside our own half with poor old Leo a lone figure up front. I imagine the stats would have us in the bottom 6 of the league for chances created over the season.
When we play well (Wigan/Leicester) we can be a pleasure to watch but I'm struggling to think of many occasions over the season when we have created more than 3 decent chances in a match.
Oscar, it's time to take the brakes off before the season ends up as a damp squib.
I've always given Oscar the benefit of the doubt as I feel this season's signings were probably not down to him plus the fact that he didn't inherit players with the pace & energy required to play the pressing game he told us he likes. However after watching last night I realise that some of the problems are down to him because he is just too cautious. After scoring, did we really look like we were having a go & gambling to get the equaliser. Nothing seemed to change & at 2-1 with 10/15 minutes left it looked more like we were defending a lead & Hull were trying to get the equaliser. We all know Obika is not the answer but just to have an extra body in the opponents half for the last 15/20 minutes would have showed some intent . To play him for 2 minutes was farcical & seemed to show that Oscar would rather have lost 2-1 than risk a bigger defeat by going all out for an equaliser. This mindset concerns me ! I have moaned about Greer playing too deep before but on one occasion deep into the 2nd half Steve Harper cleared a pass back from his own goal line & Dunk/Upson were still nearer our own penalty box than the half way line. I've come to the conclusion that Oscar is happy for them to consistently defend this deep as he's has had long enough to address this situation. Every team that has come to the Amex this season has defended with a higher line than we do & allowed their midfield/strikers to play higher up the pitch. It's no surprise that we have a very good defensive record as for large periods of many games we have 9 outfield players deep inside our own half with poor old Leo a lone figure up front. I imagine the stats would have us in the bottom 6 of the league for chances created over the season. When we play well (Wigan/Leicester) we can be a pleasure to watch but I'm struggling to think of many occasions over the season when we have created more than 3 decent chances in a match. Oscar, it's time to take the brakes off before the season ends up as a damp squib. elljam
  • Score: 10

9:01am Tue 25 Feb 14

Albion In Staffs says...

pablobrowno wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I feel we have given up this season, what worries me is the quality coming here since Gus left, ince. And march were both here prior to Gus going,
If this big clear out comes, are we going to sign Andrews ? Rodders ..
No doubt spurs will allow obika a free transfer ... Will jones snap him up?
The big question is over Leo .. On this form 6-7 million bids will come in, are we going to say no? I have feeling he will want to join the premier league... And no doubt we would not want to stand in his way.
Bitterly disappointed with things since January .
Sadly I agree mark. January really signalled our intent.... Our intent to make do with players who aren't up to it. I know Bridcutt was always likely to go, but if we were really serious about promotion why was a buy and loan back deal not done? I always said we would miss Barnes, and we know he wasn't prolific but he had steel...Rodders seems to have...wool.

I worry about the impact that January had on the squad too, we had players actually asking (albeit responding to questions mainly) the board to strengthen the team! I don't think they actually have the belief they are strong enough to make a serious challenge.

What on earth are we going to do with Buckley? Is he ever going to recover?! Why did we hear nothing about trying to sign Conway? Why is everybody injured?!!!

Concerned that this trend will continue, hope I am very wrong.
PB,
It takes agreement from both sides to make a loan back deal work and that clearly wasn't going to be in Sunderland's interests. LB was clearly part of their safety package, so I think it's unfair to imply criticism of the club on that score.
In my opinion, the January window is generally an artificial market place with inflated prices, and I reckon our business shows there was a longer term view towards positive summer recruitment for next season rather than this. The club would disagree with that and would certainly never admit it publicly if it were true.
It seems we took money that was readily available and filled in with stop gaps to see us through. For example, if Stephens proves not to be good enough, then given what we paid, we'd get our money back.
We aren't going down and, to me, it looks like the club weren't prepared to gamble with money we don't have to increase our fading chances of promotion.
It all points to next season. Surely?
[quote][p][bold]pablobrowno[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I feel we have given up this season, what worries me is the quality coming here since Gus left, ince. And march were both here prior to Gus going, If this big clear out comes, are we going to sign Andrews ? Rodders .. No doubt spurs will allow obika a free transfer ... Will jones snap him up? The big question is over Leo .. On this form 6-7 million bids will come in, are we going to say no? I have feeling he will want to join the premier league... And no doubt we would not want to stand in his way. Bitterly disappointed with things since January .[/p][/quote]Sadly I agree mark. January really signalled our intent.... Our intent to make do with players who aren't up to it. I know Bridcutt was always likely to go, but if we were really serious about promotion why was a buy and loan back deal not done? I always said we would miss Barnes, and we know he wasn't prolific but he had steel...Rodders seems to have...wool. I worry about the impact that January had on the squad too, we had players actually asking (albeit responding to questions mainly) the board to strengthen the team! I don't think they actually have the belief they are strong enough to make a serious challenge. What on earth are we going to do with Buckley? Is he ever going to recover?! Why did we hear nothing about trying to sign Conway? Why is everybody injured?!!! Concerned that this trend will continue, hope I am very wrong.[/p][/quote]PB, It takes agreement from both sides to make a loan back deal work and that clearly wasn't going to be in Sunderland's interests. LB was clearly part of their safety package, so I think it's unfair to imply criticism of the club on that score. In my opinion, the January window is generally an artificial market place with inflated prices, and I reckon our business shows there was a longer term view towards positive summer recruitment for next season rather than this. The club would disagree with that and would certainly never admit it publicly if it were true. It seems we took money that was readily available and filled in with stop gaps to see us through. For example, if Stephens proves not to be good enough, then given what we paid, we'd get our money back. We aren't going down and, to me, it looks like the club weren't prepared to gamble with money we don't have to increase our fading chances of promotion. It all points to next season. Surely? Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 5

9:06am Tue 25 Feb 14

raymondo999 says...

mark by the sea wrote:
I feel we have given up this season, what worries me is the quality coming here since Gus left, ince. And march were both here prior to Gus going,
If this big clear out comes, are we going to sign Andrews ? Rodders ..
No doubt spurs will allow obika a free transfer ... Will jones snap him up?
The big question is over Leo .. On this form 6-7 million bids will come in, are we going to say no? I have feeling he will want to join the premier league... And no doubt we would not want to stand in his way.
Bitterly disappointed with things since January .
Things are clearly at a watershed. On the negative side, poor signings, injuries, loss of form, no reliable goal scorer appart from Leo, defensive mistakes costing games, slow attacking build up giving teams time to organise defence. On the positive side, a side with TK, Bruno, Ward, Upson, Ince, Buckley, KLL, Leo, Crofts, CMS, Orlandi would be a strong championship team. But this team is not available at the mo. And there is no striker of any worth likely to come here on loan. So, could be mid table at the end of the season. But with the Albion, you never know, could turn it around.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I feel we have given up this season, what worries me is the quality coming here since Gus left, ince. And march were both here prior to Gus going, If this big clear out comes, are we going to sign Andrews ? Rodders .. No doubt spurs will allow obika a free transfer ... Will jones snap him up? The big question is over Leo .. On this form 6-7 million bids will come in, are we going to say no? I have feeling he will want to join the premier league... And no doubt we would not want to stand in his way. Bitterly disappointed with things since January .[/p][/quote]Things are clearly at a watershed. On the negative side, poor signings, injuries, loss of form, no reliable goal scorer appart from Leo, defensive mistakes costing games, slow attacking build up giving teams time to organise defence. On the positive side, a side with TK, Bruno, Ward, Upson, Ince, Buckley, KLL, Leo, Crofts, CMS, Orlandi would be a strong championship team. But this team is not available at the mo. And there is no striker of any worth likely to come here on loan. So, could be mid table at the end of the season. But with the Albion, you never know, could turn it around. raymondo999
  • Score: 4

9:10am Tue 25 Feb 14

brightonup says...

mark by the sea wrote:
I feel we have given up this season, what worries me is the quality coming here since Gus left, ince. And march were both here prior to Gus going,
If this big clear out comes, are we going to sign Andrews ? Rodders ..
No doubt spurs will allow obika a free transfer ... Will jones snap him up?
The big question is over Leo .. On this form 6-7 million bids will come in, are we going to say no? I have feeling he will want to join the premier league... And no doubt we would not want to stand in his way.
Bitterly disappointed with things since January .
You are entitled to your opinion of course, but I sometimes wonder how you refrain from topping yourself....Doom and gloom wherever you look!

For goodness sake man, please lighten up - or keep your dark thoughts to yourself!
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I feel we have given up this season, what worries me is the quality coming here since Gus left, ince. And march were both here prior to Gus going, If this big clear out comes, are we going to sign Andrews ? Rodders .. No doubt spurs will allow obika a free transfer ... Will jones snap him up? The big question is over Leo .. On this form 6-7 million bids will come in, are we going to say no? I have feeling he will want to join the premier league... And no doubt we would not want to stand in his way. Bitterly disappointed with things since January .[/p][/quote]You are entitled to your opinion of course, but I sometimes wonder how you refrain from topping yourself....Doom and gloom wherever you look! For goodness sake man, please lighten up - or keep your dark thoughts to yourself! brightonup
  • Score: 5

10:06am Tue 25 Feb 14

Brian62 says...

Usual doom and gloom merchants.Albion fans dont you just love them?
We are 4 points of a play off place with lots of games left yet we lose to a Prem team (and i agree poor first half performance but much better second) and its the end of the world..
But on the positive side good to see so many top managers have taken the time away from their club committments to comment on this Argus article and le us know how bad they think th eplayers and mangement are.
.
Usual doom and gloom merchants.Albion fans dont you just love them? We are 4 points of a play off place with lots of games left yet we lose to a Prem team (and i agree poor first half performance but much better second) and its the end of the world.. But on the positive side good to see so many top managers have taken the time away from their club committments to comment on this Argus article and le us know how bad they think th eplayers and mangement are. . Brian62
  • Score: 3

10:12am Tue 25 Feb 14

pannell1 says...

same problems as last year never turning up till second half lets soak it up the first half then go get them didnt work for poyet not working for oscar on the upside dunk proving me wrong had a good game again and we really need to look a backup keeper for thomas
same problems as last year never turning up till second half lets soak it up the first half then go get them didnt work for poyet not working for oscar on the upside dunk proving me wrong had a good game again and we really need to look a backup keeper for thomas pannell1
  • Score: 1

10:24am Tue 25 Feb 14

mark by the sea says...

brightonup wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I feel we have given up this season, what worries me is the quality coming here since Gus left, ince. And march were both here prior to Gus going,
If this big clear out comes, are we going to sign Andrews ? Rodders ..
No doubt spurs will allow obika a free transfer ... Will jones snap him up?
The big question is over Leo .. On this form 6-7 million bids will come in, are we going to say no? I have feeling he will want to join the premier league... And no doubt we would not want to stand in his way.
Bitterly disappointed with things since January .
You are entitled to your opinion of course, but I sometimes wonder how you refrain from topping yourself....Doom and gloom wherever you look!

For goodness sake man, please lighten up - or keep your dark thoughts to yourself!
Not doom and gloom, but we have people like Vegas telling us with excited breath that we are going to clear out all the players bar a few and that's going to give OG his chance, the guy is not the manager, but the coach, that means it's Burke in control of the scouting with mervyn day , from this season alone Gus may have spent more than we can afford , however he probably got value for money in most of his signings..
Bridcutt free
Ince free
Ulloa 2million.
Upson free
Calderon free
GG £250k
TK free
Orlandi free
David free
These players have been the backbone of the side, allowing for agents fees
there is plenty of profit if we sold or what value we have had over 3-4 seasons for caldi and co.
Last nights 11 only contained 1 player who we paid a transfer fee for! Leo.
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I feel we have given up this season, what worries me is the quality coming here since Gus left, ince. And march were both here prior to Gus going, If this big clear out comes, are we going to sign Andrews ? Rodders .. No doubt spurs will allow obika a free transfer ... Will jones snap him up? The big question is over Leo .. On this form 6-7 million bids will come in, are we going to say no? I have feeling he will want to join the premier league... And no doubt we would not want to stand in his way. Bitterly disappointed with things since January .[/p][/quote]You are entitled to your opinion of course, but I sometimes wonder how you refrain from topping yourself....Doom and gloom wherever you look! For goodness sake man, please lighten up - or keep your dark thoughts to yourself![/p][/quote]Not doom and gloom, but we have people like Vegas telling us with excited breath that we are going to clear out all the players bar a few and that's going to give OG his chance, the guy is not the manager, but the coach, that means it's Burke in control of the scouting with mervyn day , from this season alone Gus may have spent more than we can afford , however he probably got value for money in most of his signings.. Bridcutt free Ince free Ulloa 2million. Upson free Calderon free GG £250k TK free Orlandi free David free These players have been the backbone of the side, allowing for agents fees there is plenty of profit if we sold or what value we have had over 3-4 seasons for caldi and co. Last nights 11 only contained 1 player who we paid a transfer fee for! Leo. mark by the sea
  • Score: -2

10:40am Tue 25 Feb 14

matski_98 says...

elljam wrote:
I've always given Oscar the benefit of the doubt as I feel this season's signings were probably not down to him plus the fact that he didn't inherit players with the pace & energy required to play the pressing game he told us he likes.
However after watching last night I realise that some of the problems are down to him because he is just too cautious. After scoring, did we really look like we were having a go & gambling to get the equaliser. Nothing seemed to change & at 2-1 with 10/15 minutes left it looked more like we were defending a lead & Hull were trying to get the equaliser.
We all know Obika is not the answer but just to have an extra body in the opponents half for the last 15/20 minutes would have showed some intent . To play him for 2 minutes was farcical & seemed to show that Oscar would rather have lost 2-1 than risk a bigger defeat by going all out for an equaliser. This mindset concerns me !
I have moaned about Greer playing too deep before but on one occasion deep into the 2nd half Steve Harper cleared a pass back from his own goal line & Dunk/Upson were still nearer our own penalty box than the half way line. I've come to the conclusion that Oscar is happy for them to consistently defend this deep as he's has had long enough to address this situation. Every team that has come to the Amex this season has defended with a higher line than we do & allowed their midfield/strikers to play higher up the pitch. It's no surprise that we have a very good defensive record as for large periods of many games we have 9 outfield players deep inside our own half with poor old Leo a lone figure up front. I imagine the stats would have us in the bottom 6 of the league for chances created over the season.
When we play well (Wigan/Leicester) we can be a pleasure to watch but I'm struggling to think of many occasions over the season when we have created more than 3 decent chances in a match.
Oscar, it's time to take the brakes off before the season ends up as a damp squib.
I'd bet theres some contractual thing about Obika playing which is why he keeps coming on for the last few minutes.
[quote][p][bold]elljam[/bold] wrote: I've always given Oscar the benefit of the doubt as I feel this season's signings were probably not down to him plus the fact that he didn't inherit players with the pace & energy required to play the pressing game he told us he likes. However after watching last night I realise that some of the problems are down to him because he is just too cautious. After scoring, did we really look like we were having a go & gambling to get the equaliser. Nothing seemed to change & at 2-1 with 10/15 minutes left it looked more like we were defending a lead & Hull were trying to get the equaliser. We all know Obika is not the answer but just to have an extra body in the opponents half for the last 15/20 minutes would have showed some intent . To play him for 2 minutes was farcical & seemed to show that Oscar would rather have lost 2-1 than risk a bigger defeat by going all out for an equaliser. This mindset concerns me ! I have moaned about Greer playing too deep before but on one occasion deep into the 2nd half Steve Harper cleared a pass back from his own goal line & Dunk/Upson were still nearer our own penalty box than the half way line. I've come to the conclusion that Oscar is happy for them to consistently defend this deep as he's has had long enough to address this situation. Every team that has come to the Amex this season has defended with a higher line than we do & allowed their midfield/strikers to play higher up the pitch. It's no surprise that we have a very good defensive record as for large periods of many games we have 9 outfield players deep inside our own half with poor old Leo a lone figure up front. I imagine the stats would have us in the bottom 6 of the league for chances created over the season. When we play well (Wigan/Leicester) we can be a pleasure to watch but I'm struggling to think of many occasions over the season when we have created more than 3 decent chances in a match. Oscar, it's time to take the brakes off before the season ends up as a damp squib.[/p][/quote]I'd bet theres some contractual thing about Obika playing which is why he keeps coming on for the last few minutes. matski_98
  • Score: 0

10:51am Tue 25 Feb 14

portugal35 says...

Bruno,Greer,Stephens
,Crofts,Orlandi,CMS,
Calderon,Chicksen,,W
ard,Ulloa,Upson,Lope
z,LuaLua,March,Kuszc
zak,Buckley and Ince are the 17 players worth retaining for next season.Purchase 3 or 4 additional players of quality,including Dean and Hammond,and promotion will be a strong possibility.
Bruno,Greer,Stephens ,Crofts,Orlandi,CMS, Calderon,Chicksen,,W ard,Ulloa,Upson,Lope z,LuaLua,March,Kuszc zak,Buckley and Ince are the 17 players worth retaining for next season.Purchase 3 or 4 additional players of quality,including Dean and Hammond,and promotion will be a strong possibility. portugal35
  • Score: -4

11:09am Tue 25 Feb 14

DuncanThickett says...

Still, good news about the Chocolate Oranges.
Still, good news about the Chocolate Oranges. DuncanThickett
  • Score: 0

1:04pm Tue 25 Feb 14

brightonfan34 says...

i went to the game and we were poor 1st half we gave them two shocking goals and we gave it a go in second half but the damage was already done after 1st half performance
i went to the game and we were poor 1st half we gave them two shocking goals and we gave it a go in second half but the damage was already done after 1st half performance brightonfan34
  • Score: 3

1:19pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Woodies Seagull says...

Very disappointed by last night like most, but having been at Hereford, Gillingham, and seen us lose in exotic places such as Exeter (amongst others!), it's a measure of my expectations now to be disappointed by losing to a premier league team, Need to remind myself sometimes on how far we've come!

On a slightly more humorous note, I did laugh when Clark Carlisle said that we should "bring Obika on as it would cause Hull some problems". Clark obv not too familiar with JO....
Very disappointed by last night like most, but having been at Hereford, Gillingham, and seen us lose in exotic places such as Exeter (amongst others!), it's a measure of my expectations now to be disappointed by losing to a premier league team, Need to remind myself sometimes on how far we've come! On a slightly more humorous note, I did laugh when Clark Carlisle said that we should "bring Obika on as it would cause Hull some problems". Clark obv not too familiar with JO.... Woodies Seagull
  • Score: 4

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