Who was your top man against Reading?

Tomasz Kuszczak makes another save

Tomasz Kuszczak makes another save

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Tomasz Kuszczak made a point-saving stop for Albion today.

The big Pole was the sponsors’ choice as man-of-the-match in the 1-1 draw with Reading.

He was beaten at his near post for the Royals’ goal but head coach Oscar Garcia exonerated him of blame, saying he saw the ball late.

But there were other notable performances as the ten men claimed a point.

Matt Upson was solid against his old club and Keith Andrews helped bolster defence as Albion came under pressure.

Bruno was good on the ball and his pass created that late chance for Will Buckley. But he was caught out once, leading to Kuszczak’s stop from Jobi McAnuff.

Or maybe you liked the midfield work of Rohan Ince or Jake Foster-Caskey.

So who was your choice as Albion’s top man today?

And have we left your selection off our five-man shortlist.

Cast your vote and add your comment.

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7:08pm Sat 8 Mar 14

graham w says...

How andrews gets in the side is beyond me.. and to day he was just as poor he just does not do enough. ..
How andrews gets in the side is beyond me.. and to day he was just as poor he just does not do enough. .. graham w
  • Score: 12

7:09pm Sat 8 Mar 14

lowerbeedingseagull says...

How can JFC even get in the shake up? He took free kicks which were awful, gave the ball away all game & even lost a 50/50 challenge with the corner flag, so it's not him!!!!
How can JFC even get in the shake up? He took free kicks which were awful, gave the ball away all game & even lost a 50/50 challenge with the corner flag, so it's not him!!!! lowerbeedingseagull
  • Score: 10

7:13pm Sat 8 Mar 14

wiseman of hove says...

Ulloa for me but he's not listed above!
Ulloa for me but he's not listed above! wiseman of hove
  • Score: 12

7:45pm Sat 8 Mar 14

tug509 says...

JFC -not good enough ,even Oxford figured that one out ,20-25 yard shots ,great ,but not as a style of play ,but as a weapon in the locker ,not an only option.
Why wasn`t Solly on the pitch ???? ,why do we have a player ,who scare`s the sh1t out of everyone ,and leave him on the bench ,yes it`s KAZ ,enjoy looking at his warm ups ,because if we are not very careful, someone will actually play the guy ,and destroy defences ,we need to keep this man ,he IS GOOD .
Bucks ,put on for a sub for Linny (too early for a nickname?) he should have been on the pitch supplying him!! ,not a feckin replacement !!.
We had two really tough games ,the first ,today ,eminently winnable ,win today ,and the momentum would take us to a 3 points on Tuesday ,feck it up today and climb a hill .
As always ready for the negatives ,but surely the neg that counted was todays bismal excuse.
UTA
JFC -not good enough ,even Oxford figured that one out ,20-25 yard shots ,great ,but not as a style of play ,but as a weapon in the locker ,not an only option. Why wasn`t Solly on the pitch ???? ,why do we have a player ,who scare`s the sh1t out of everyone ,and leave him on the bench ,yes it`s KAZ ,enjoy looking at his warm ups ,because if we are not very careful, someone will actually play the guy ,and destroy defences ,we need to keep this man ,he IS GOOD . Bucks ,put on for a sub for Linny (too early for a nickname?) he should have been on the pitch supplying him!! ,not a feckin replacement !!. We had two really tough games ,the first ,today ,eminently winnable ,win today ,and the momentum would take us to a 3 points on Tuesday ,feck it up today and climb a hill . As always ready for the negatives ,but surely the neg that counted was todays bismal excuse. UTA tug509
  • Score: 7

7:52pm Sat 8 Mar 14

SMF20 says...

To answer the Q... Ulloa

Just back from the game and am bitterly disappointed and incredibly frustrated.

Although some of my frustration can be shouldered on the referee for the worst performance and most ridiculous decision of the season thus far... I am even more frustrated by our management team for throwing away yet another winnable game.
I genuinely feel that they are making life very much more difficult for us than it should be.

I'm certainly not in the sack OG club but I am starting to wonder if he is the man to move us on.
Why oh why oh why do Andrews, JFC and Lopez get a starting berth in our first 11 time and time again. They are not up to the task in any discipline required and I find it simply astounding that they are continually selected over some of our brightest talent.
I understand of course that we were missing both Stephens and Orlandi today but all 3 of them starting... Really?

Buckley had a big bid made for him in January... We declined it yet he finds himself on the bench while Lopez who will be lucky to be kept gets yet another start.
March is recognised by skysports as a future star yet he gives way to young JFC who offers nothing.. A good lad and dedicated but way off the pace and simply not up to it.
Then there is Kaz... A game changer on his day and carried our sole threat for a lot of games earlier in this season and yet he has to watch some fella that's why past his best continually getting the nod.

While I appreciate all 3 above should probably not start... 2 of them should.
It is no coincidence to me that our most attacking threat in the game came when we had 10 men on the pitch but included Solly and Will... Weird how this is often the case... Am I missing something?

And finally. What made OG wait until the 85th minute to introduce the 3rd pair of fresh legs? Half of the midfield were dead on there feet yet he just let them carry on with their offering of nothing.

Really annoyed tonight and ready for the thumbs down.... Just bl00dy frustrated at our managements lack of ambition.

UTA
To answer the Q... Ulloa Just back from the game and am bitterly disappointed and incredibly frustrated. Although some of my frustration can be shouldered on the referee for the worst performance and most ridiculous decision of the season thus far... I am even more frustrated by our management team for throwing away yet another winnable game. I genuinely feel that they are making life very much more difficult for us than it should be. I'm certainly not in the sack OG club but I am starting to wonder if he is the man to move us on. Why oh why oh why do Andrews, JFC and Lopez get a starting berth in our first 11 time and time again. They are not up to the task in any discipline required and I find it simply astounding that they are continually selected over some of our brightest talent. I understand of course that we were missing both Stephens and Orlandi today but all 3 of them starting... Really? Buckley had a big bid made for him in January... We declined it yet he finds himself on the bench while Lopez who will be lucky to be kept gets yet another start. March is recognised by skysports as a future star yet he gives way to young JFC who offers nothing.. A good lad and dedicated but way off the pace and simply not up to it. Then there is Kaz... A game changer on his day and carried our sole threat for a lot of games earlier in this season and yet he has to watch some fella that's why past his best continually getting the nod. While I appreciate all 3 above should probably not start... 2 of them should. It is no coincidence to me that our most attacking threat in the game came when we had 10 men on the pitch but included Solly and Will... Weird how this is often the case... Am I missing something? And finally. What made OG wait until the 85th minute to introduce the 3rd pair of fresh legs? Half of the midfield were dead on there feet yet he just let them carry on with their offering of nothing. Really annoyed tonight and ready for the thumbs down.... Just bl00dy frustrated at our managements lack of ambition. UTA SMF20
  • Score: 31

8:03pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

lowerbeedingseagull wrote:
How can JFC even get in the shake up? He took free kicks which were awful, gave the ball away all game & even lost a 50/50 challenge with the corner flag, so it's not him!!!!
It's amazing how different people see different performances - there are several people on NSC saying JFC was our best player. Some saying Ward was dire, others saying MoM... each to their own.
[quote][p][bold]lowerbeedingseagull[/bold] wrote: How can JFC even get in the shake up? He took free kicks which were awful, gave the ball away all game & even lost a 50/50 challenge with the corner flag, so it's not him!!!![/p][/quote]It's amazing how different people see different performances - there are several people on NSC saying JFC was our best player. Some saying Ward was dire, others saying MoM... each to their own. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 2

8:07pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

SMF - it seems that neither Buckley or KLL are fit to start, which is why the are on the subs' bench. March and JFC cannot be compared as they fulfil different roles.

And as for the late sub, with us hanging on you can be easily tempted into sticking with the team that is edging you towards a point, and only making a sub when it is absolutely necessary.
SMF - it seems that neither Buckley or KLL are fit to start, which is why the are on the subs' bench. March and JFC cannot be compared as they fulfil different roles. And as for the late sub, with us hanging on you can be easily tempted into sticking with the team that is edging you towards a point, and only making a sub when it is absolutely necessary. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 2

8:08pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

graham w wrote:
How andrews gets in the side is beyond me.. and to day he was just as poor he just does not do enough. ..
We're not flush with central midfielders at the moment, what with Crofts and Stephens missing, so Andrews is always likely to get the nod.
[quote][p][bold]graham w [/bold] wrote: How andrews gets in the side is beyond me.. and to day he was just as poor he just does not do enough. ..[/p][/quote]We're not flush with central midfielders at the moment, what with Crofts and Stephens missing, so Andrews is always likely to get the nod. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 2

8:10pm Sat 8 Mar 14

SMF20 says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
SMF - it seems that neither Buckley or KLL are fit to start, which is why the are on the subs' bench. March and JFC cannot be compared as they fulfil different roles.

And as for the late sub, with us hanging on you can be easily tempted into sticking with the team that is edging you towards a point, and only making a sub when it is absolutely necessary.
If Will and Kaz are not fit to start then they shouldn't be in the squad

As for JFC and Solly playing different roles... Ideally yes but I have seen Solly on multiple occasions play in the attacking central midfield role this season and he has been exceptional.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: SMF - it seems that neither Buckley or KLL are fit to start, which is why the are on the subs' bench. March and JFC cannot be compared as they fulfil different roles. And as for the late sub, with us hanging on you can be easily tempted into sticking with the team that is edging you towards a point, and only making a sub when it is absolutely necessary.[/p][/quote]If Will and Kaz are not fit to start then they shouldn't be in the squad As for JFC and Solly playing different roles... Ideally yes but I have seen Solly on multiple occasions play in the attacking central midfield role this season and he has been exceptional. SMF20
  • Score: 8

8:13pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

SMF20 wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
SMF - it seems that neither Buckley or KLL are fit to start, which is why the are on the subs' bench. March and JFC cannot be compared as they fulfil different roles.

And as for the late sub, with us hanging on you can be easily tempted into sticking with the team that is edging you towards a point, and only making a sub when it is absolutely necessary.
If Will and Kaz are not fit to start then they shouldn't be in the squad

As for JFC and Solly playing different roles... Ideally yes but I have seen Solly on multiple occasions play in the attacking central midfield role this season and he has been exceptional.
Of course Will and Kaz should be in the squad if they can contribute even 20 minutes. How else do you ease them back to full fitness? You can't go from injured to full 90 minutes + injury time.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: SMF - it seems that neither Buckley or KLL are fit to start, which is why the are on the subs' bench. March and JFC cannot be compared as they fulfil different roles. And as for the late sub, with us hanging on you can be easily tempted into sticking with the team that is edging you towards a point, and only making a sub when it is absolutely necessary.[/p][/quote]If Will and Kaz are not fit to start then they shouldn't be in the squad As for JFC and Solly playing different roles... Ideally yes but I have seen Solly on multiple occasions play in the attacking central midfield role this season and he has been exceptional.[/p][/quote]Of course Will and Kaz should be in the squad if they can contribute even 20 minutes. How else do you ease them back to full fitness? You can't go from injured to full 90 minutes + injury time. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 3

8:14pm Sat 8 Mar 14

tug509 says...

SMF20 wrote:
To answer the Q... Ulloa

Just back from the game and am bitterly disappointed and incredibly frustrated.

Although some of my frustration can be shouldered on the referee for the worst performance and most ridiculous decision of the season thus far... I am even more frustrated by our management team for throwing away yet another winnable game.
I genuinely feel that they are making life very much more difficult for us than it should be.

I'm certainly not in the sack OG club but I am starting to wonder if he is the man to move us on.
Why oh why oh why do Andrews, JFC and Lopez get a starting berth in our first 11 time and time again. They are not up to the task in any discipline required and I find it simply astounding that they are continually selected over some of our brightest talent.
I understand of course that we were missing both Stephens and Orlandi today but all 3 of them starting... Really?

Buckley had a big bid made for him in January... We declined it yet he finds himself on the bench while Lopez who will be lucky to be kept gets yet another start.
March is recognised by skysports as a future star yet he gives way to young JFC who offers nothing.. A good lad and dedicated but way off the pace and simply not up to it.
Then there is Kaz... A game changer on his day and carried our sole threat for a lot of games earlier in this season and yet he has to watch some fella that's why past his best continually getting the nod.

While I appreciate all 3 above should probably not start... 2 of them should.
It is no coincidence to me that our most attacking threat in the game came when we had 10 men on the pitch but included Solly and Will... Weird how this is often the case... Am I missing something?

And finally. What made OG wait until the 85th minute to introduce the 3rd pair of fresh legs? Half of the midfield were dead on there feet yet he just let them carry on with their offering of nothing.

Really annoyed tonight and ready for the thumbs down.... Just bl00dy frustrated at our managements lack of ambition.

UTA
Spot on , Excellent , On the money .
I can only think that this is some awful attempt at squad rotation ,because of two close games ,if so ,guess feckin what ....it don't work !.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: To answer the Q... Ulloa Just back from the game and am bitterly disappointed and incredibly frustrated. Although some of my frustration can be shouldered on the referee for the worst performance and most ridiculous decision of the season thus far... I am even more frustrated by our management team for throwing away yet another winnable game. I genuinely feel that they are making life very much more difficult for us than it should be. I'm certainly not in the sack OG club but I am starting to wonder if he is the man to move us on. Why oh why oh why do Andrews, JFC and Lopez get a starting berth in our first 11 time and time again. They are not up to the task in any discipline required and I find it simply astounding that they are continually selected over some of our brightest talent. I understand of course that we were missing both Stephens and Orlandi today but all 3 of them starting... Really? Buckley had a big bid made for him in January... We declined it yet he finds himself on the bench while Lopez who will be lucky to be kept gets yet another start. March is recognised by skysports as a future star yet he gives way to young JFC who offers nothing.. A good lad and dedicated but way off the pace and simply not up to it. Then there is Kaz... A game changer on his day and carried our sole threat for a lot of games earlier in this season and yet he has to watch some fella that's why past his best continually getting the nod. While I appreciate all 3 above should probably not start... 2 of them should. It is no coincidence to me that our most attacking threat in the game came when we had 10 men on the pitch but included Solly and Will... Weird how this is often the case... Am I missing something? And finally. What made OG wait until the 85th minute to introduce the 3rd pair of fresh legs? Half of the midfield were dead on there feet yet he just let them carry on with their offering of nothing. Really annoyed tonight and ready for the thumbs down.... Just bl00dy frustrated at our managements lack of ambition. UTA[/p][/quote]Spot on , Excellent , On the money . I can only think that this is some awful attempt at squad rotation ,because of two close games ,if so ,guess feckin what ....it don't work !. tug509
  • Score: 4

8:18pm Sat 8 Mar 14

twonk says...

Upson.
Upson. twonk
  • Score: 6

8:34pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Eddy B says...

A bit of a silly shortlist as should include Ulloa.
Agree with the posters above. Our midfield looks very weak at the moment with the exception of Ince. Reading overran us and i'm not talking about just the second half after Greer went off. Not sure David, Andrews or JFC are good enough.
A bit of a silly shortlist as should include Ulloa. Agree with the posters above. Our midfield looks very weak at the moment with the exception of Ince. Reading overran us and i'm not talking about just the second half after Greer went off. Not sure David, Andrews or JFC are good enough. Eddy B
  • Score: 5

8:50pm Sat 8 Mar 14

fratsomrover says...

Can understand the award going to Kuz as he gained us a point with that one-on-one save. But I also though Upson was excellent as was Ulloa, who again did amazing things with so little support.
It was a disappointing team to put out, lacking any real flair and pace, so I always thought we'd struggle to get a result as I could not see where a goal would come from. In the event, they gave us one and after Greer's ridiculous bodycheck I always thought it would only be a matter of time before they scored.
In the end, I'm delighted to get a point. Reading were all over us and I'm sure they'll regard it a 2 points lost, which makes it a good point for us.
I was actually surprised to see GG start considering he did 90 minutes midweek for Scotland. He looked vulnerable and I wondered if he might have been subbed at half time after his first booking. His passing has to be the worst I've ever seen from an " International player"
I really hope we get some of our players with drive back into the starting line up. We missed Stephens's power and we lacked pace and drive down the right hand side. I hope either Buckley or March starts on Tuesday too.
The sad fact is, scoring one goal a game is not going to bring any reward.
We played poorly at Millwall last week and stole a win.
Today at home we had 6 shots compared to Readings 26, with only 1 on target.
We also had 2 corners as opposed to Reading's 10.
With stats like that, we were fortunate to get a point.
We have to do better.
Can understand the award going to Kuz as he gained us a point with that one-on-one save. But I also though Upson was excellent as was Ulloa, who again did amazing things with so little support. It was a disappointing team to put out, lacking any real flair and pace, so I always thought we'd struggle to get a result as I could not see where a goal would come from. In the event, they gave us one and after Greer's ridiculous bodycheck I always thought it would only be a matter of time before they scored. In the end, I'm delighted to get a point. Reading were all over us and I'm sure they'll regard it a 2 points lost, which makes it a good point for us. I was actually surprised to see GG start considering he did 90 minutes midweek for Scotland. He looked vulnerable and I wondered if he might have been subbed at half time after his first booking. His passing has to be the worst I've ever seen from an " International player" I really hope we get some of our players with drive back into the starting line up. We missed Stephens's power and we lacked pace and drive down the right hand side. I hope either Buckley or March starts on Tuesday too. The sad fact is, scoring one goal a game is not going to bring any reward. We played poorly at Millwall last week and stole a win. Today at home we had 6 shots compared to Readings 26, with only 1 on target. We also had 2 corners as opposed to Reading's 10. With stats like that, we were fortunate to get a point. We have to do better. fratsomrover
  • Score: 8

8:56pm Sat 8 Mar 14

nkwbtn says...

Agree with one poster above - it is funny how we see things differently. I have been disappointed with Andrews often this season but thought he was much better today.
I thought big Leo worked his socks off again but agree TK was outstanding. Scrappy game and lucky to get a point once down to 10 men. The ref was an incompetent oaf and spoiled the game for both sides. We so miss Crofts in that middle but its not all doom & gloom - still plenty to play for.
Agree with one poster above - it is funny how we see things differently. I have been disappointed with Andrews often this season but thought he was much better today. I thought big Leo worked his socks off again but agree TK was outstanding. Scrappy game and lucky to get a point once down to 10 men. The ref was an incompetent oaf and spoiled the game for both sides. We so miss Crofts in that middle but its not all doom & gloom - still plenty to play for. nkwbtn
  • Score: 7

8:56pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Far gull says...

tug509 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
To answer the Q... Ulloa

Just back from the game and am bitterly disappointed and incredibly frustrated.

Although some of my frustration can be shouldered on the referee for the worst performance and most ridiculous decision of the season thus far... I am even more frustrated by our management team for throwing away yet another winnable game.
I genuinely feel that they are making life very much more difficult for us than it should be.

I'm certainly not in the sack OG club but I am starting to wonder if he is the man to move us on.
Why oh why oh why do Andrews, JFC and Lopez get a starting berth in our first 11 time and time again. They are not up to the task in any discipline required and I find it simply astounding that they are continually selected over some of our brightest talent.
I understand of course that we were missing both Stephens and Orlandi today but all 3 of them starting... Really?

Buckley had a big bid made for him in January... We declined it yet he finds himself on the bench while Lopez who will be lucky to be kept gets yet another start.
March is recognised by skysports as a future star yet he gives way to young JFC who offers nothing.. A good lad and dedicated but way off the pace and simply not up to it.
Then there is Kaz... A game changer on his day and carried our sole threat for a lot of games earlier in this season and yet he has to watch some fella that's why past his best continually getting the nod.

While I appreciate all 3 above should probably not start... 2 of them should.
It is no coincidence to me that our most attacking threat in the game came when we had 10 men on the pitch but included Solly and Will... Weird how this is often the case... Am I missing something?

And finally. What made OG wait until the 85th minute to introduce the 3rd pair of fresh legs? Half of the midfield were dead on there feet yet he just let them carry on with their offering of nothing.

Really annoyed tonight and ready for the thumbs down.... Just bl00dy frustrated at our managements lack of ambition.

UTA
Spot on , Excellent , On the money .
I can only think that this is some awful attempt at squad rotation ,because of two close games ,if so ,guess feckin what ....it don't work !.
Hi,Guys ,with you all the way tonight. TK,Upson , Bruno ,Ward nothing but effort, Ince would have been good if pointer( Andrews ) had not kept getting in the way!! ( make that the side) Leo and Lingaard good but Guys I to am questioning OG now as injuries are an issue BUT ....1-- All the regulars around me today and I were all saying pre match Greer was at 33 having played in Poland game on Tuesday was going to be out of sorts ,low and behold what happened. Now if we can figure it why can't they. !
2--- Andrews is -----p ,absolute waste of time him playing ,let alone with Ince,verses Wigan there was no need for two holding midfielders and yes we lost but not because of needing two holding players.
3---- jfc not that bad imho today but 2 of our attacking boys on bench out of three could have started. When are we going to try and win from the off get 2-3 ahead then save them for next game when we have all but won! If we had gone two up today you could see that there heads would have dropped(Reading)

Am thoughly --------d off with management of team today as I believe they cost us the game more than the actual players on the pitch.!!!!
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: To answer the Q... Ulloa Just back from the game and am bitterly disappointed and incredibly frustrated. Although some of my frustration can be shouldered on the referee for the worst performance and most ridiculous decision of the season thus far... I am even more frustrated by our management team for throwing away yet another winnable game. I genuinely feel that they are making life very much more difficult for us than it should be. I'm certainly not in the sack OG club but I am starting to wonder if he is the man to move us on. Why oh why oh why do Andrews, JFC and Lopez get a starting berth in our first 11 time and time again. They are not up to the task in any discipline required and I find it simply astounding that they are continually selected over some of our brightest talent. I understand of course that we were missing both Stephens and Orlandi today but all 3 of them starting... Really? Buckley had a big bid made for him in January... We declined it yet he finds himself on the bench while Lopez who will be lucky to be kept gets yet another start. March is recognised by skysports as a future star yet he gives way to young JFC who offers nothing.. A good lad and dedicated but way off the pace and simply not up to it. Then there is Kaz... A game changer on his day and carried our sole threat for a lot of games earlier in this season and yet he has to watch some fella that's why past his best continually getting the nod. While I appreciate all 3 above should probably not start... 2 of them should. It is no coincidence to me that our most attacking threat in the game came when we had 10 men on the pitch but included Solly and Will... Weird how this is often the case... Am I missing something? And finally. What made OG wait until the 85th minute to introduce the 3rd pair of fresh legs? Half of the midfield were dead on there feet yet he just let them carry on with their offering of nothing. Really annoyed tonight and ready for the thumbs down.... Just bl00dy frustrated at our managements lack of ambition. UTA[/p][/quote]Spot on , Excellent , On the money . I can only think that this is some awful attempt at squad rotation ,because of two close games ,if so ,guess feckin what ....it don't work !.[/p][/quote]Hi,Guys ,with you all the way tonight. TK,Upson , Bruno ,Ward nothing but effort, Ince would have been good if pointer( Andrews ) had not kept getting in the way!! ( make that the side) Leo and Lingaard good but Guys I to am questioning OG now as injuries are an issue BUT ....1-- All the regulars around me today and I were all saying pre match Greer was at 33 having played in Poland game on Tuesday was going to be out of sorts ,low and behold what happened. Now if we can figure it why can't they. ! 2--- Andrews is -----p ,absolute waste of time him playing ,let alone with Ince,verses Wigan there was no need for two holding midfielders and yes we lost but not because of needing two holding players. 3---- jfc not that bad imho today but 2 of our attacking boys on bench out of three could have started. When are we going to try and win from the off get 2-3 ahead then save them for next game when we have all but won! If we had gone two up today you could see that there heads would have dropped(Reading) Am thoughly --------d off with management of team today as I believe they cost us the game more than the actual players on the pitch.!!!! Far gull
  • Score: 7

9:06pm Sat 8 Mar 14

mark by the sea says...

Far gull wrote:
tug509 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
To answer the Q... Ulloa

Just back from the game and am bitterly disappointed and incredibly frustrated.

Although some of my frustration can be shouldered on the referee for the worst performance and most ridiculous decision of the season thus far... I am even more frustrated by our management team for throwing away yet another winnable game.
I genuinely feel that they are making life very much more difficult for us than it should be.

I'm certainly not in the sack OG club but I am starting to wonder if he is the man to move us on.
Why oh why oh why do Andrews, JFC and Lopez get a starting berth in our first 11 time and time again. They are not up to the task in any discipline required and I find it simply astounding that they are continually selected over some of our brightest talent.
I understand of course that we were missing both Stephens and Orlandi today but all 3 of them starting... Really?

Buckley had a big bid made for him in January... We declined it yet he finds himself on the bench while Lopez who will be lucky to be kept gets yet another start.
March is recognised by skysports as a future star yet he gives way to young JFC who offers nothing.. A good lad and dedicated but way off the pace and simply not up to it.
Then there is Kaz... A game changer on his day and carried our sole threat for a lot of games earlier in this season and yet he has to watch some fella that's why past his best continually getting the nod.

While I appreciate all 3 above should probably not start... 2 of them should.
It is no coincidence to me that our most attacking threat in the game came when we had 10 men on the pitch but included Solly and Will... Weird how this is often the case... Am I missing something?

And finally. What made OG wait until the 85th minute to introduce the 3rd pair of fresh legs? Half of the midfield were dead on there feet yet he just let them carry on with their offering of nothing.

Really annoyed tonight and ready for the thumbs down.... Just bl00dy frustrated at our managements lack of ambition.

UTA
Spot on , Excellent , On the money .
I can only think that this is some awful attempt at squad rotation ,because of two close games ,if so ,guess feckin what ....it don't work !.
Hi,Guys ,with you all the way tonight. TK,Upson , Bruno ,Ward nothing but effort, Ince would have been good if pointer( Andrews ) had not kept getting in the way!! ( make that the side) Leo and Lingaard good but Guys I to am questioning OG now as injuries are an issue BUT ....1-- All the regulars around me today and I were all saying pre match Greer was at 33 having played in Poland game on Tuesday was going to be out of sorts ,low and behold what happened. Now if we can figure it why can't they. !
2--- Andrews is -----p ,absolute waste of time him playing ,let alone with Ince,verses Wigan there was no need for two holding midfielders and yes we lost but not because of needing two holding players.
3---- jfc not that bad imho today but 2 of our attacking boys on bench out of three could have started. When are we going to try and win from the off get 2-3 ahead then save them for next game when we have all but won! If we had gone two up today you could see that there heads would have dropped(Reading)

Am thoughly --------d off with management of team today as I believe they cost us the game more than the actual players on the pitch.!!!!
Just home . GG was flat footed for the tackle , and it was clumsy ..
Thank god for our expert Arnie who was not there, but corrects those that were!
[quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: To answer the Q... Ulloa Just back from the game and am bitterly disappointed and incredibly frustrated. Although some of my frustration can be shouldered on the referee for the worst performance and most ridiculous decision of the season thus far... I am even more frustrated by our management team for throwing away yet another winnable game. I genuinely feel that they are making life very much more difficult for us than it should be. I'm certainly not in the sack OG club but I am starting to wonder if he is the man to move us on. Why oh why oh why do Andrews, JFC and Lopez get a starting berth in our first 11 time and time again. They are not up to the task in any discipline required and I find it simply astounding that they are continually selected over some of our brightest talent. I understand of course that we were missing both Stephens and Orlandi today but all 3 of them starting... Really? Buckley had a big bid made for him in January... We declined it yet he finds himself on the bench while Lopez who will be lucky to be kept gets yet another start. March is recognised by skysports as a future star yet he gives way to young JFC who offers nothing.. A good lad and dedicated but way off the pace and simply not up to it. Then there is Kaz... A game changer on his day and carried our sole threat for a lot of games earlier in this season and yet he has to watch some fella that's why past his best continually getting the nod. While I appreciate all 3 above should probably not start... 2 of them should. It is no coincidence to me that our most attacking threat in the game came when we had 10 men on the pitch but included Solly and Will... Weird how this is often the case... Am I missing something? And finally. What made OG wait until the 85th minute to introduce the 3rd pair of fresh legs? Half of the midfield were dead on there feet yet he just let them carry on with their offering of nothing. Really annoyed tonight and ready for the thumbs down.... Just bl00dy frustrated at our managements lack of ambition. UTA[/p][/quote]Spot on , Excellent , On the money . I can only think that this is some awful attempt at squad rotation ,because of two close games ,if so ,guess feckin what ....it don't work !.[/p][/quote]Hi,Guys ,with you all the way tonight. TK,Upson , Bruno ,Ward nothing but effort, Ince would have been good if pointer( Andrews ) had not kept getting in the way!! ( make that the side) Leo and Lingaard good but Guys I to am questioning OG now as injuries are an issue BUT ....1-- All the regulars around me today and I were all saying pre match Greer was at 33 having played in Poland game on Tuesday was going to be out of sorts ,low and behold what happened. Now if we can figure it why can't they. ! 2--- Andrews is -----p ,absolute waste of time him playing ,let alone with Ince,verses Wigan there was no need for two holding midfielders and yes we lost but not because of needing two holding players. 3---- jfc not that bad imho today but 2 of our attacking boys on bench out of three could have started. When are we going to try and win from the off get 2-3 ahead then save them for next game when we have all but won! If we had gone two up today you could see that there heads would have dropped(Reading) Am thoughly --------d off with management of team today as I believe they cost us the game more than the actual players on the pitch.!!!![/p][/quote]Just home . GG was flat footed for the tackle , and it was clumsy .. Thank god for our expert Arnie who was not there, but corrects those that were! mark by the sea
  • Score: -2

9:08pm Sat 8 Mar 14

mark by the sea says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
SMF - it seems that neither Buckley or KLL are fit to start, which is why the are on the subs' bench. March and JFC cannot be compared as they fulfil different roles.

And as for the late sub, with us hanging on you can be easily tempted into sticking with the team that is edging you towards a point, and only making a sub when it is absolutely necessary.
If they are not fit, it might be the reason they never recover properly!
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: SMF - it seems that neither Buckley or KLL are fit to start, which is why the are on the subs' bench. March and JFC cannot be compared as they fulfil different roles. And as for the late sub, with us hanging on you can be easily tempted into sticking with the team that is edging you towards a point, and only making a sub when it is absolutely necessary.[/p][/quote]If they are not fit, it might be the reason they never recover properly! mark by the sea
  • Score: -1

9:18pm Sat 8 Mar 14

tug509 says...

Far gull wrote:
tug509 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
To answer the Q... Ulloa

Just back from the game and am bitterly disappointed and incredibly frustrated.

Although some of my frustration can be shouldered on the referee for the worst performance and most ridiculous decision of the season thus far... I am even more frustrated by our management team for throwing away yet another winnable game.
I genuinely feel that they are making life very much more difficult for us than it should be.

I'm certainly not in the sack OG club but I am starting to wonder if he is the man to move us on.
Why oh why oh why do Andrews, JFC and Lopez get a starting berth in our first 11 time and time again. They are not up to the task in any discipline required and I find it simply astounding that they are continually selected over some of our brightest talent.
I understand of course that we were missing both Stephens and Orlandi today but all 3 of them starting... Really?

Buckley had a big bid made for him in January... We declined it yet he finds himself on the bench while Lopez who will be lucky to be kept gets yet another start.
March is recognised by skysports as a future star yet he gives way to young JFC who offers nothing.. A good lad and dedicated but way off the pace and simply not up to it.
Then there is Kaz... A game changer on his day and carried our sole threat for a lot of games earlier in this season and yet he has to watch some fella that's why past his best continually getting the nod.

While I appreciate all 3 above should probably not start... 2 of them should.
It is no coincidence to me that our most attacking threat in the game came when we had 10 men on the pitch but included Solly and Will... Weird how this is often the case... Am I missing something?

And finally. What made OG wait until the 85th minute to introduce the 3rd pair of fresh legs? Half of the midfield were dead on there feet yet he just let them carry on with their offering of nothing.

Really annoyed tonight and ready for the thumbs down.... Just bl00dy frustrated at our managements lack of ambition.

UTA
Spot on , Excellent , On the money .
I can only think that this is some awful attempt at squad rotation ,because of two close games ,if so ,guess feckin what ....it don't work !.
Hi,Guys ,with you all the way tonight. TK,Upson , Bruno ,Ward nothing but effort, Ince would have been good if pointer( Andrews ) had not kept getting in the way!! ( make that the side) Leo and Lingaard good but Guys I to am questioning OG now as injuries are an issue BUT ....1-- All the regulars around me today and I were all saying pre match Greer was at 33 having played in Poland game on Tuesday was going to be out of sorts ,low and behold what happened. Now if we can figure it why can't they. !
2--- Andrews is -----p ,absolute waste of time him playing ,let alone with Ince,verses Wigan there was no need for two holding midfielders and yes we lost but not because of needing two holding players.
3---- jfc not that bad imho today but 2 of our attacking boys on bench out of three could have started. When are we going to try and win from the off get 2-3 ahead then save them for next game when we have all but won! If we had gone two up today you could see that there heads would have dropped(Reading)

Am thoughly --------d off with management of team today as I believe they cost us the game more than the actual players on the pitch.!!!!
Agreed ,we were supposed to be at home !! ,we had lads on the bench ,that should have started.

TK

BS
LD
MU
SW

RI

SM/WB
AO/DS
JL
KLL

LU

With what was available ,we should have won by a mile ,p1ss poor choice ,and subs ,c,mon lads there`s the facts !.
[quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: To answer the Q... Ulloa Just back from the game and am bitterly disappointed and incredibly frustrated. Although some of my frustration can be shouldered on the referee for the worst performance and most ridiculous decision of the season thus far... I am even more frustrated by our management team for throwing away yet another winnable game. I genuinely feel that they are making life very much more difficult for us than it should be. I'm certainly not in the sack OG club but I am starting to wonder if he is the man to move us on. Why oh why oh why do Andrews, JFC and Lopez get a starting berth in our first 11 time and time again. They are not up to the task in any discipline required and I find it simply astounding that they are continually selected over some of our brightest talent. I understand of course that we were missing both Stephens and Orlandi today but all 3 of them starting... Really? Buckley had a big bid made for him in January... We declined it yet he finds himself on the bench while Lopez who will be lucky to be kept gets yet another start. March is recognised by skysports as a future star yet he gives way to young JFC who offers nothing.. A good lad and dedicated but way off the pace and simply not up to it. Then there is Kaz... A game changer on his day and carried our sole threat for a lot of games earlier in this season and yet he has to watch some fella that's why past his best continually getting the nod. While I appreciate all 3 above should probably not start... 2 of them should. It is no coincidence to me that our most attacking threat in the game came when we had 10 men on the pitch but included Solly and Will... Weird how this is often the case... Am I missing something? And finally. What made OG wait until the 85th minute to introduce the 3rd pair of fresh legs? Half of the midfield were dead on there feet yet he just let them carry on with their offering of nothing. Really annoyed tonight and ready for the thumbs down.... Just bl00dy frustrated at our managements lack of ambition. UTA[/p][/quote]Spot on , Excellent , On the money . I can only think that this is some awful attempt at squad rotation ,because of two close games ,if so ,guess feckin what ....it don't work !.[/p][/quote]Hi,Guys ,with you all the way tonight. TK,Upson , Bruno ,Ward nothing but effort, Ince would have been good if pointer( Andrews ) had not kept getting in the way!! ( make that the side) Leo and Lingaard good but Guys I to am questioning OG now as injuries are an issue BUT ....1-- All the regulars around me today and I were all saying pre match Greer was at 33 having played in Poland game on Tuesday was going to be out of sorts ,low and behold what happened. Now if we can figure it why can't they. ! 2--- Andrews is -----p ,absolute waste of time him playing ,let alone with Ince,verses Wigan there was no need for two holding midfielders and yes we lost but not because of needing two holding players. 3---- jfc not that bad imho today but 2 of our attacking boys on bench out of three could have started. When are we going to try and win from the off get 2-3 ahead then save them for next game when we have all but won! If we had gone two up today you could see that there heads would have dropped(Reading) Am thoughly --------d off with management of team today as I believe they cost us the game more than the actual players on the pitch.!!!![/p][/quote]Agreed ,we were supposed to be at home !! ,we had lads on the bench ,that should have started. TK BS LD MU SW RI SM/WB AO/DS JL KLL LU With what was available ,we should have won by a mile ,p1ss poor choice ,and subs ,c,mon lads there`s the facts !. tug509
  • Score: 2

9:24pm Sat 8 Mar 14

falmer seagull says...

Too defensive in midfield for heavens sake. I thought we were playing at home! A midfield containing Ince, Andrews, JFC and David was so defensive. When are the fans going to be entertained at home? March, Buckley and Lua Lua on bench? I am sure the fans would enjoy an attacking committment let the opposition worry about us! Simples but when are our management team going to realise this????????
Too defensive in midfield for heavens sake. I thought we were playing at home! A midfield containing Ince, Andrews, JFC and David was so defensive. When are the fans going to be entertained at home? March, Buckley and Lua Lua on bench? I am sure the fans would enjoy an attacking committment let the opposition worry about us! Simples but when are our management team going to realise this???????? falmer seagull
  • Score: 4

9:26pm Sat 8 Mar 14

tug509 says...

tug509 wrote:
Far gull wrote:
tug509 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
To answer the Q... Ulloa

Just back from the game and am bitterly disappointed and incredibly frustrated.

Although some of my frustration can be shouldered on the referee for the worst performance and most ridiculous decision of the season thus far... I am even more frustrated by our management team for throwing away yet another winnable game.
I genuinely feel that they are making life very much more difficult for us than it should be.

I'm certainly not in the sack OG club but I am starting to wonder if he is the man to move us on.
Why oh why oh why do Andrews, JFC and Lopez get a starting berth in our first 11 time and time again. They are not up to the task in any discipline required and I find it simply astounding that they are continually selected over some of our brightest talent.
I understand of course that we were missing both Stephens and Orlandi today but all 3 of them starting... Really?

Buckley had a big bid made for him in January... We declined it yet he finds himself on the bench while Lopez who will be lucky to be kept gets yet another start.
March is recognised by skysports as a future star yet he gives way to young JFC who offers nothing.. A good lad and dedicated but way off the pace and simply not up to it.
Then there is Kaz... A game changer on his day and carried our sole threat for a lot of games earlier in this season and yet he has to watch some fella that's why past his best continually getting the nod.

While I appreciate all 3 above should probably not start... 2 of them should.
It is no coincidence to me that our most attacking threat in the game came when we had 10 men on the pitch but included Solly and Will... Weird how this is often the case... Am I missing something?

And finally. What made OG wait until the 85th minute to introduce the 3rd pair of fresh legs? Half of the midfield were dead on there feet yet he just let them carry on with their offering of nothing.

Really annoyed tonight and ready for the thumbs down.... Just bl00dy frustrated at our managements lack of ambition.

UTA
Spot on , Excellent , On the money .
I can only think that this is some awful attempt at squad rotation ,because of two close games ,if so ,guess feckin what ....it don't work !.
Hi,Guys ,with you all the way tonight. TK,Upson , Bruno ,Ward nothing but effort, Ince would have been good if pointer( Andrews ) had not kept getting in the way!! ( make that the side) Leo and Lingaard good but Guys I to am questioning OG now as injuries are an issue BUT ....1-- All the regulars around me today and I were all saying pre match Greer was at 33 having played in Poland game on Tuesday was going to be out of sorts ,low and behold what happened. Now if we can figure it why can't they. !
2--- Andrews is -----p ,absolute waste of time him playing ,let alone with Ince,verses Wigan there was no need for two holding midfielders and yes we lost but not because of needing two holding players.
3---- jfc not that bad imho today but 2 of our attacking boys on bench out of three could have started. When are we going to try and win from the off get 2-3 ahead then save them for next game when we have all but won! If we had gone two up today you could see that there heads would have dropped(Reading)

Am thoughly --------d off with management of team today as I believe they cost us the game more than the actual players on the pitch.!!!!
Agreed ,we were supposed to be at home !! ,we had lads on the bench ,that should have started.

TK

BS
LD
MU
SW

RI

SM/WB
AO/DS
JL
KLL

LU

With what was available ,we should have won by a mile ,p1ss poor choice ,and subs ,c,mon lads there`s the facts !.
AO and DS were`nt fit today ,but the team above ,would have ripped Reading a new one !. UTA
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: To answer the Q... Ulloa Just back from the game and am bitterly disappointed and incredibly frustrated. Although some of my frustration can be shouldered on the referee for the worst performance and most ridiculous decision of the season thus far... I am even more frustrated by our management team for throwing away yet another winnable game. I genuinely feel that they are making life very much more difficult for us than it should be. I'm certainly not in the sack OG club but I am starting to wonder if he is the man to move us on. Why oh why oh why do Andrews, JFC and Lopez get a starting berth in our first 11 time and time again. They are not up to the task in any discipline required and I find it simply astounding that they are continually selected over some of our brightest talent. I understand of course that we were missing both Stephens and Orlandi today but all 3 of them starting... Really? Buckley had a big bid made for him in January... We declined it yet he finds himself on the bench while Lopez who will be lucky to be kept gets yet another start. March is recognised by skysports as a future star yet he gives way to young JFC who offers nothing.. A good lad and dedicated but way off the pace and simply not up to it. Then there is Kaz... A game changer on his day and carried our sole threat for a lot of games earlier in this season and yet he has to watch some fella that's why past his best continually getting the nod. While I appreciate all 3 above should probably not start... 2 of them should. It is no coincidence to me that our most attacking threat in the game came when we had 10 men on the pitch but included Solly and Will... Weird how this is often the case... Am I missing something? And finally. What made OG wait until the 85th minute to introduce the 3rd pair of fresh legs? Half of the midfield were dead on there feet yet he just let them carry on with their offering of nothing. Really annoyed tonight and ready for the thumbs down.... Just bl00dy frustrated at our managements lack of ambition. UTA[/p][/quote]Spot on , Excellent , On the money . I can only think that this is some awful attempt at squad rotation ,because of two close games ,if so ,guess feckin what ....it don't work !.[/p][/quote]Hi,Guys ,with you all the way tonight. TK,Upson , Bruno ,Ward nothing but effort, Ince would have been good if pointer( Andrews ) had not kept getting in the way!! ( make that the side) Leo and Lingaard good but Guys I to am questioning OG now as injuries are an issue BUT ....1-- All the regulars around me today and I were all saying pre match Greer was at 33 having played in Poland game on Tuesday was going to be out of sorts ,low and behold what happened. Now if we can figure it why can't they. ! 2--- Andrews is -----p ,absolute waste of time him playing ,let alone with Ince,verses Wigan there was no need for two holding midfielders and yes we lost but not because of needing two holding players. 3---- jfc not that bad imho today but 2 of our attacking boys on bench out of three could have started. When are we going to try and win from the off get 2-3 ahead then save them for next game when we have all but won! If we had gone two up today you could see that there heads would have dropped(Reading) Am thoughly --------d off with management of team today as I believe they cost us the game more than the actual players on the pitch.!!!![/p][/quote]Agreed ,we were supposed to be at home !! ,we had lads on the bench ,that should have started. TK BS LD MU SW RI SM/WB AO/DS JL KLL LU With what was available ,we should have won by a mile ,p1ss poor choice ,and subs ,c,mon lads there`s the facts !.[/p][/quote]AO and DS were`nt fit today ,but the team above ,would have ripped Reading a new one !. UTA tug509
  • Score: 2

10:12pm Sat 8 Mar 14

albionbloke says...

SMF20 wrote:
To answer the Q... Ulloa

Just back from the game and am bitterly disappointed and incredibly frustrated.

Although some of my frustration can be shouldered on the referee for the worst performance and most ridiculous decision of the season thus far... I am even more frustrated by our management team for throwing away yet another winnable game.
I genuinely feel that they are making life very much more difficult for us than it should be.

I'm certainly not in the sack OG club but I am starting to wonder if he is the man to move us on.
Why oh why oh why do Andrews, JFC and Lopez get a starting berth in our first 11 time and time again. They are not up to the task in any discipline required and I find it simply astounding that they are continually selected over some of our brightest talent.
I understand of course that we were missing both Stephens and Orlandi today but all 3 of them starting... Really?

Buckley had a big bid made for him in January... We declined it yet he finds himself on the bench while Lopez who will be lucky to be kept gets yet another start.
March is recognised by skysports as a future star yet he gives way to young JFC who offers nothing.. A good lad and dedicated but way off the pace and simply not up to it.
Then there is Kaz... A game changer on his day and carried our sole threat for a lot of games earlier in this season and yet he has to watch some fella that's why past his best continually getting the nod.

While I appreciate all 3 above should probably not start... 2 of them should.
It is no coincidence to me that our most attacking threat in the game came when we had 10 men on the pitch but included Solly and Will... Weird how this is often the case... Am I missing something?

And finally. What made OG wait until the 85th minute to introduce the 3rd pair of fresh legs? Half of the midfield were dead on there feet yet he just let them carry on with their offering of nothing.

Really annoyed tonight and ready for the thumbs down.... Just bl00dy frustrated at our managements lack of ambition.

UTA
No thumbs down from me SMF......excellent comments and every one of them valid. One of the most realistic posts I've read here. You echo the sentiments of many Albion fans. Good job.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: To answer the Q... Ulloa Just back from the game and am bitterly disappointed and incredibly frustrated. Although some of my frustration can be shouldered on the referee for the worst performance and most ridiculous decision of the season thus far... I am even more frustrated by our management team for throwing away yet another winnable game. I genuinely feel that they are making life very much more difficult for us than it should be. I'm certainly not in the sack OG club but I am starting to wonder if he is the man to move us on. Why oh why oh why do Andrews, JFC and Lopez get a starting berth in our first 11 time and time again. They are not up to the task in any discipline required and I find it simply astounding that they are continually selected over some of our brightest talent. I understand of course that we were missing both Stephens and Orlandi today but all 3 of them starting... Really? Buckley had a big bid made for him in January... We declined it yet he finds himself on the bench while Lopez who will be lucky to be kept gets yet another start. March is recognised by skysports as a future star yet he gives way to young JFC who offers nothing.. A good lad and dedicated but way off the pace and simply not up to it. Then there is Kaz... A game changer on his day and carried our sole threat for a lot of games earlier in this season and yet he has to watch some fella that's why past his best continually getting the nod. While I appreciate all 3 above should probably not start... 2 of them should. It is no coincidence to me that our most attacking threat in the game came when we had 10 men on the pitch but included Solly and Will... Weird how this is often the case... Am I missing something? And finally. What made OG wait until the 85th minute to introduce the 3rd pair of fresh legs? Half of the midfield were dead on there feet yet he just let them carry on with their offering of nothing. Really annoyed tonight and ready for the thumbs down.... Just bl00dy frustrated at our managements lack of ambition. UTA[/p][/quote]No thumbs down from me SMF......excellent comments and every one of them valid. One of the most realistic posts I've read here. You echo the sentiments of many Albion fans. Good job. albionbloke
  • Score: 8

10:31pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Far gull wrote:
tug509 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
To answer the Q... Ulloa

Just back from the game and am bitterly disappointed and incredibly frustrated.

Although some of my frustration can be shouldered on the referee for the worst performance and most ridiculous decision of the season thus far... I am even more frustrated by our management team for throwing away yet another winnable game.
I genuinely feel that they are making life very much more difficult for us than it should be.

I'm certainly not in the sack OG club but I am starting to wonder if he is the man to move us on.
Why oh why oh why do Andrews, JFC and Lopez get a starting berth in our first 11 time and time again. They are not up to the task in any discipline required and I find it simply astounding that they are continually selected over some of our brightest talent.
I understand of course that we were missing both Stephens and Orlandi today but all 3 of them starting... Really?

Buckley had a big bid made for him in January... We declined it yet he finds himself on the bench while Lopez who will be lucky to be kept gets yet another start.
March is recognised by skysports as a future star yet he gives way to young JFC who offers nothing.. A good lad and dedicated but way off the pace and simply not up to it.
Then there is Kaz... A game changer on his day and carried our sole threat for a lot of games earlier in this season and yet he has to watch some fella that's why past his best continually getting the nod.

While I appreciate all 3 above should probably not start... 2 of them should.
It is no coincidence to me that our most attacking threat in the game came when we had 10 men on the pitch but included Solly and Will... Weird how this is often the case... Am I missing something?

And finally. What made OG wait until the 85th minute to introduce the 3rd pair of fresh legs? Half of the midfield were dead on there feet yet he just let them carry on with their offering of nothing.

Really annoyed tonight and ready for the thumbs down.... Just bl00dy frustrated at our managements lack of ambition.

UTA
Spot on , Excellent , On the money .
I can only think that this is some awful attempt at squad rotation ,because of two close games ,if so ,guess feckin what ....it don't work !.
Hi,Guys ,with you all the way tonight. TK,Upson , Bruno ,Ward nothing but effort, Ince would have been good if pointer( Andrews ) had not kept getting in the way!! ( make that the side) Leo and Lingaard good but Guys I to am questioning OG now as injuries are an issue BUT ....1-- All the regulars around me today and I were all saying pre match Greer was at 33 having played in Poland game on Tuesday was going to be out of sorts ,low and behold what happened. Now if we can figure it why can't they. !
2--- Andrews is -----p ,absolute waste of time him playing ,let alone with Ince,verses Wigan there was no need for two holding midfielders and yes we lost but not because of needing two holding players.
3---- jfc not that bad imho today but 2 of our attacking boys on bench out of three could have started. When are we going to try and win from the off get 2-3 ahead then save them for next game when we have all but won! If we had gone two up today you could see that there heads would have dropped(Reading)

Am thoughly --------d off with management of team today as I believe they cost us the game more than the actual players on the pitch.!!!!
Just home . GG was flat footed for the tackle , and it was clumsy ..
Thank god for our expert Arnie who was not there, but corrects those that were!
Who have I corrected?
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: To answer the Q... Ulloa Just back from the game and am bitterly disappointed and incredibly frustrated. Although some of my frustration can be shouldered on the referee for the worst performance and most ridiculous decision of the season thus far... I am even more frustrated by our management team for throwing away yet another winnable game. I genuinely feel that they are making life very much more difficult for us than it should be. I'm certainly not in the sack OG club but I am starting to wonder if he is the man to move us on. Why oh why oh why do Andrews, JFC and Lopez get a starting berth in our first 11 time and time again. They are not up to the task in any discipline required and I find it simply astounding that they are continually selected over some of our brightest talent. I understand of course that we were missing both Stephens and Orlandi today but all 3 of them starting... Really? Buckley had a big bid made for him in January... We declined it yet he finds himself on the bench while Lopez who will be lucky to be kept gets yet another start. March is recognised by skysports as a future star yet he gives way to young JFC who offers nothing.. A good lad and dedicated but way off the pace and simply not up to it. Then there is Kaz... A game changer on his day and carried our sole threat for a lot of games earlier in this season and yet he has to watch some fella that's why past his best continually getting the nod. While I appreciate all 3 above should probably not start... 2 of them should. It is no coincidence to me that our most attacking threat in the game came when we had 10 men on the pitch but included Solly and Will... Weird how this is often the case... Am I missing something? And finally. What made OG wait until the 85th minute to introduce the 3rd pair of fresh legs? Half of the midfield were dead on there feet yet he just let them carry on with their offering of nothing. Really annoyed tonight and ready for the thumbs down.... Just bl00dy frustrated at our managements lack of ambition. UTA[/p][/quote]Spot on , Excellent , On the money . I can only think that this is some awful attempt at squad rotation ,because of two close games ,if so ,guess feckin what ....it don't work !.[/p][/quote]Hi,Guys ,with you all the way tonight. TK,Upson , Bruno ,Ward nothing but effort, Ince would have been good if pointer( Andrews ) had not kept getting in the way!! ( make that the side) Leo and Lingaard good but Guys I to am questioning OG now as injuries are an issue BUT ....1-- All the regulars around me today and I were all saying pre match Greer was at 33 having played in Poland game on Tuesday was going to be out of sorts ,low and behold what happened. Now if we can figure it why can't they. ! 2--- Andrews is -----p ,absolute waste of time him playing ,let alone with Ince,verses Wigan there was no need for two holding midfielders and yes we lost but not because of needing two holding players. 3---- jfc not that bad imho today but 2 of our attacking boys on bench out of three could have started. When are we going to try and win from the off get 2-3 ahead then save them for next game when we have all but won! If we had gone two up today you could see that there heads would have dropped(Reading) Am thoughly --------d off with management of team today as I believe they cost us the game more than the actual players on the pitch.!!!![/p][/quote]Just home . GG was flat footed for the tackle , and it was clumsy .. Thank god for our expert Arnie who was not there, but corrects those that were![/p][/quote]Who have I corrected? Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 2

10:33pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
SMF - it seems that neither Buckley or KLL are fit to start, which is why the are on the subs' bench. March and JFC cannot be compared as they fulfil different roles.

And as for the late sub, with us hanging on you can be easily tempted into sticking with the team that is edging you towards a point, and only making a sub when it is absolutely necessary.
If they are not fit, it might be the reason they never recover properly!
I'm not taking about still suffering from an injury, I'm taking about match fitness/stamina, lost due to lack of action.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: SMF - it seems that neither Buckley or KLL are fit to start, which is why the are on the subs' bench. March and JFC cannot be compared as they fulfil different roles. And as for the late sub, with us hanging on you can be easily tempted into sticking with the team that is edging you towards a point, and only making a sub when it is absolutely necessary.[/p][/quote]If they are not fit, it might be the reason they never recover properly![/p][/quote]I'm not taking about still suffering from an injury, I'm taking about match fitness/stamina, lost due to lack of action. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 2

11:05pm Sat 8 Mar 14

tug509 says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
SMF - it seems that neither Buckley or KLL are fit to start, which is why the are on the subs' bench. March and JFC cannot be compared as they fulfil different roles.

And as for the late sub, with us hanging on you can be easily tempted into sticking with the team that is edging you towards a point, and only making a sub when it is absolutely necessary.
If they are not fit, it might be the reason they never recover properly!
I'm not taking about still suffering from an injury, I'm taking about match fitness/stamina, lost due to lack of action.
No offence ,but what part of Yorkshire are you from ?.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: SMF - it seems that neither Buckley or KLL are fit to start, which is why the are on the subs' bench. March and JFC cannot be compared as they fulfil different roles. And as for the late sub, with us hanging on you can be easily tempted into sticking with the team that is edging you towards a point, and only making a sub when it is absolutely necessary.[/p][/quote]If they are not fit, it might be the reason they never recover properly![/p][/quote]I'm not taking about still suffering from an injury, I'm taking about match fitness/stamina, lost due to lack of action.[/p][/quote]No offence ,but what part of Yorkshire are you from ?. tug509
  • Score: 0

11:07pm Sat 8 Mar 14

bruce beckett says...

Thumbs up from me too, SMF. JFC can still make it as a pro but he's not up to this level yet. Andrews is an honest journeyman (and not a regular first-choice). Lopez just hasn't looked the same player as last year (and, yes, I was one of those clamoring for his return).

With Orlandi ruled out, one of our wide guys had to start. Trouble is, as a previous poster pointed out, neither Buckley nor LuaLua can be relied upon to last 90 minutes, which I guess is why they're not playing in the Premier League. March is promising but still raw.

I'll be reserving judgement on whether OG is really this negative a coach until he has a fully fit squad to choose from. It's not been an easy introduction for him with so many injuries and the Bridcutt transfer saga. But you're not going to get promoted when you set your side up to score one goal a game.

Can't see us beating QPR on Tuesday either but, like any football supporter, I live in hope.
Thumbs up from me too, SMF. JFC can still make it as a pro but he's not up to this level yet. Andrews is an honest journeyman (and not a regular first-choice). Lopez just hasn't looked the same player as last year (and, yes, I was one of those clamoring for his return). With Orlandi ruled out, one of our wide guys had to start. Trouble is, as a previous poster pointed out, neither Buckley nor LuaLua can be relied upon to last 90 minutes, which I guess is why they're not playing in the Premier League. March is promising but still raw. I'll be reserving judgement on whether OG is really this negative a coach until he has a fully fit squad to choose from. It's not been an easy introduction for him with so many injuries and the Bridcutt transfer saga. But you're not going to get promoted when you set your side up to score one goal a game. Can't see us beating QPR on Tuesday either but, like any football supporter, I live in hope. bruce beckett
  • Score: -3

11:15pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

tug509 wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
SMF - it seems that neither Buckley or KLL are fit to start, which is why the are on the subs' bench. March and JFC cannot be compared as they fulfil different roles.

And as for the late sub, with us hanging on you can be easily tempted into sticking with the team that is edging you towards a point, and only making a sub when it is absolutely necessary.
If they are not fit, it might be the reason they never recover properly!
I'm not taking about still suffering from an injury, I'm taking about match fitness/stamina, lost due to lack of action.
No offence ,but what part of Yorkshire are you from ?.
?
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: SMF - it seems that neither Buckley or KLL are fit to start, which is why the are on the subs' bench. March and JFC cannot be compared as they fulfil different roles. And as for the late sub, with us hanging on you can be easily tempted into sticking with the team that is edging you towards a point, and only making a sub when it is absolutely necessary.[/p][/quote]If they are not fit, it might be the reason they never recover properly![/p][/quote]I'm not taking about still suffering from an injury, I'm taking about match fitness/stamina, lost due to lack of action.[/p][/quote]No offence ,but what part of Yorkshire are you from ?.[/p][/quote]? Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

12:30am Sun 9 Mar 14

ringtone says...

Greer, lol
Greer, lol ringtone
  • Score: -1

1:15am Sun 9 Mar 14

Chi Gull says...

In the first half both teams were below par. Yes the starting 11 could have been more attacking, but until Greer got sent off I was thinking we were 1-0 up without playing well and not really in trouble, with all that flair on the bench to rip them apart in the last 30 mins. The sending off changed all that and we rather lost our shape and tactics for a while. I thought Bruno, Lopez and Ulloa combined well on a few occasions in the first half without it leading to much - apart from the comedy goal. Going down to 10 men exposed our lack of pace in midfield and down our left flank. Ward was struggling and not getting a lot of help. I thought Ince was not as effective as usual. Bruno continued his run of good form. As others have said, Andrews wouldn't start if Stephens was available. Neither would JFC if Orlandi was fully fit. Given our injuries and fitness problems its difficult for OG to pick a consistently strong team. I think if just one of March, Buckley or KLL had started, there would be less moaning on here. As it was, Greer's rash challenge probably cost us 2 points. His first booking was harsh I thought, the 2nd was inevitable once Le Fondre had gone down holding his face and rolling around - only to get straight back up and run to his position once the red card had been shown. I think we will beat QPR !!
In the first half both teams were below par. Yes the starting 11 could have been more attacking, but until Greer got sent off I was thinking we were 1-0 up without playing well and not really in trouble, with all that flair on the bench to rip them apart in the last 30 mins. The sending off changed all that and we rather lost our shape and tactics for a while. I thought Bruno, Lopez and Ulloa combined well on a few occasions in the first half without it leading to much - apart from the comedy goal. Going down to 10 men exposed our lack of pace in midfield and down our left flank. Ward was struggling and not getting a lot of help. I thought Ince was not as effective as usual. Bruno continued his run of good form. As others have said, Andrews wouldn't start if Stephens was available. Neither would JFC if Orlandi was fully fit. Given our injuries and fitness problems its difficult for OG to pick a consistently strong team. I think if just one of March, Buckley or KLL had started, there would be less moaning on here. As it was, Greer's rash challenge probably cost us 2 points. His first booking was harsh I thought, the 2nd was inevitable once Le Fondre had gone down holding his face and rolling around - only to get straight back up and run to his position once the red card had been shown. I think we will beat QPR !! Chi Gull
  • Score: 8

6:50am Sun 9 Mar 14

JFC1 says...

Oscar's team selection & motivation skills are beginning to worry me slightly.....
Oscar's team selection & motivation skills are beginning to worry me slightly..... JFC1
  • Score: 3

6:54am Sun 9 Mar 14

mark by the sea says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
SMF - it seems that neither Buckley or KLL are fit to start, which is why the are on the subs' bench. March and JFC cannot be compared as they fulfil different roles.

And as for the late sub, with us hanging on you can be easily tempted into sticking with the team that is edging you towards a point, and only making a sub when it is absolutely necessary.
If they are not fit, it might be the reason they never recover properly!
I'm not taking about still suffering from an injury, I'm taking about match fitness/stamina, lost due to lack of action.
Lol what rubbish, they both have recurring hamstrings and neither are fit?
OG success this season is down to our defence,
Your quote " OG will next season move his players around the pitch like a chess player ? You based that on seeing the Albion 5 times this season?
On a serious note, Steve Walsh was at the Amex, ex saints player, now chief scout for Leicester, watching Leo Ulloa,
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: SMF - it seems that neither Buckley or KLL are fit to start, which is why the are on the subs' bench. March and JFC cannot be compared as they fulfil different roles. And as for the late sub, with us hanging on you can be easily tempted into sticking with the team that is edging you towards a point, and only making a sub when it is absolutely necessary.[/p][/quote]If they are not fit, it might be the reason they never recover properly![/p][/quote]I'm not taking about still suffering from an injury, I'm taking about match fitness/stamina, lost due to lack of action.[/p][/quote]Lol what rubbish, they both have recurring hamstrings and neither are fit? OG success this season is down to our defence, Your quote " OG will next season move his players around the pitch like a chess player ? You based that on seeing the Albion 5 times this season? On a serious note, Steve Walsh was at the Amex, ex saints player, now chief scout for Leicester, watching Leo Ulloa, mark by the sea
  • Score: -4

6:56am Sun 9 Mar 14

mark by the sea says...

JFC1 wrote:
Oscar's team selection & motivation skills are beginning to worry me slightly.....
Yes where is the game changing tactics ? Negative at home ,
We are close to the play offs due to our defence, and ulloa, both will be gone come August
[quote][p][bold]JFC1[/bold] wrote: Oscar's team selection & motivation skills are beginning to worry me slightly.....[/p][/quote]Yes where is the game changing tactics ? Negative at home , We are close to the play offs due to our defence, and ulloa, both will be gone come August mark by the sea
  • Score: 0

7:24am Sun 9 Mar 14

Far gull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
JFC1 wrote:
Oscar's team selection & motivation skills are beginning to worry me slightly.....
Yes where is the game changing tactics ? Negative at home ,
We are close to the play offs due to our defence, and ulloa, both will be gone come August
Yes they may be gone come next season,god help us if we don't go up as not sure this management up to it. OG may be a better no 2 ,with a ' Harry ' type required as a no 1 ,but the rub is no top manager would work under Barber and Burke !!!?
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JFC1[/bold] wrote: Oscar's team selection & motivation skills are beginning to worry me slightly.....[/p][/quote]Yes where is the game changing tactics ? Negative at home , We are close to the play offs due to our defence, and ulloa, both will be gone come August[/p][/quote]Yes they may be gone come next season,god help us if we don't go up as not sure this management up to it. OG may be a better no 2 ,with a ' Harry ' type required as a no 1 ,but the rub is no top manager would work under Barber and Burke !!!? Far gull
  • Score: -2

12:17pm Sun 9 Mar 14

elljam says...

SMF20 wrote:
To answer the Q... Ulloa

Just back from the game and am bitterly disappointed and incredibly frustrated.

Although some of my frustration can be shouldered on the referee for the worst performance and most ridiculous decision of the season thus far... I am even more frustrated by our management team for throwing away yet another winnable game.
I genuinely feel that they are making life very much more difficult for us than it should be.

I'm certainly not in the sack OG club but I am starting to wonder if he is the man to move us on.
Why oh why oh why do Andrews, JFC and Lopez get a starting berth in our first 11 time and time again. They are not up to the task in any discipline required and I find it simply astounding that they are continually selected over some of our brightest talent.
I understand of course that we were missing both Stephens and Orlandi today but all 3 of them starting... Really?

Buckley had a big bid made for him in January... We declined it yet he finds himself on the bench while Lopez who will be lucky to be kept gets yet another start.
March is recognised by skysports as a future star yet he gives way to young JFC who offers nothing.. A good lad and dedicated but way off the pace and simply not up to it.
Then there is Kaz... A game changer on his day and carried our sole threat for a lot of games earlier in this season and yet he has to watch some fella that's why past his best continually getting the nod.

While I appreciate all 3 above should probably not start... 2 of them should.
It is no coincidence to me that our most attacking threat in the game came when we had 10 men on the pitch but included Solly and Will... Weird how this is often the case... Am I missing something?

And finally. What made OG wait until the 85th minute to introduce the 3rd pair of fresh legs? Half of the midfield were dead on there feet yet he just let them carry on with their offering of nothing.

Really annoyed tonight and ready for the thumbs down.... Just bl00dy frustrated at our managements lack of ambition.

UTA
Excellent comments.

How is Ulloa not even on the 5 man short list (maybe the Argus reporter is on Albion's coaching staff). He won more aerial challenges than I've seen from him & held the ball up superbly whilst feeding on the usual scraps of support & service.
Kuszczak made one great save but should have stopped the goal, JFC huffed & puffed but definitely didn't blow the house down whilst Andrews looked like a fish out of water playing in a more advanced role. In fact the middle 3 of JFC, Ince & Andrews were as poor as I've seen all season with no creativity & no legs. I assume Andrews was given a more advanced role with Ince sitting deeper because Ince wasn't fully fit & it was felt he couldn't get around the pitch as much as usual (it definitely looked like that as he had his worst game at the Amex). I know Orlandi's creativity & Stephens energy were missing but why not play Lopez or March in the advanced central position & Buckley wide to give us a little more attacking threat. As usual Oscar went for a safety first line-up with more emphasis on being solid rather than creative.
Even with 11 men we were not a goal threat & when we went down to 10 you would have thought we were playing against Barcelona or Bayern Munich with the amount of ground & possession we conceded rather than against a very average Reading side. They were queuing up to take shots with no pressure on the ball & it was only a matter of time before one went in.
When we realised it was part of the game to attack them we looked dangerous & should have scored on a couple of occasions. Buckley was at the heart of these moments which further proved the negative starting line-up.
As each week passes it is becoming apparent we are a team that would rather draw 0-0 than 2-2 or win 1-0 over 3-2 & I am sure a lot of supporters patience is being tested. They want us to get behind the team but are feeding us mere scraps to get excited about.

Oscar MUST begin to show more willingness to take a few chances because this safety first football will not get us in the play-offs.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: To answer the Q... Ulloa Just back from the game and am bitterly disappointed and incredibly frustrated. Although some of my frustration can be shouldered on the referee for the worst performance and most ridiculous decision of the season thus far... I am even more frustrated by our management team for throwing away yet another winnable game. I genuinely feel that they are making life very much more difficult for us than it should be. I'm certainly not in the sack OG club but I am starting to wonder if he is the man to move us on. Why oh why oh why do Andrews, JFC and Lopez get a starting berth in our first 11 time and time again. They are not up to the task in any discipline required and I find it simply astounding that they are continually selected over some of our brightest talent. I understand of course that we were missing both Stephens and Orlandi today but all 3 of them starting... Really? Buckley had a big bid made for him in January... We declined it yet he finds himself on the bench while Lopez who will be lucky to be kept gets yet another start. March is recognised by skysports as a future star yet he gives way to young JFC who offers nothing.. A good lad and dedicated but way off the pace and simply not up to it. Then there is Kaz... A game changer on his day and carried our sole threat for a lot of games earlier in this season and yet he has to watch some fella that's why past his best continually getting the nod. While I appreciate all 3 above should probably not start... 2 of them should. It is no coincidence to me that our most attacking threat in the game came when we had 10 men on the pitch but included Solly and Will... Weird how this is often the case... Am I missing something? And finally. What made OG wait until the 85th minute to introduce the 3rd pair of fresh legs? Half of the midfield were dead on there feet yet he just let them carry on with their offering of nothing. Really annoyed tonight and ready for the thumbs down.... Just bl00dy frustrated at our managements lack of ambition. UTA[/p][/quote]Excellent comments. How is Ulloa not even on the 5 man short list (maybe the Argus reporter is on Albion's coaching staff). He won more aerial challenges than I've seen from him & held the ball up superbly whilst feeding on the usual scraps of support & service. Kuszczak made one great save but should have stopped the goal, JFC huffed & puffed but definitely didn't blow the house down whilst Andrews looked like a fish out of water playing in a more advanced role. In fact the middle 3 of JFC, Ince & Andrews were as poor as I've seen all season with no creativity & no legs. I assume Andrews was given a more advanced role with Ince sitting deeper because Ince wasn't fully fit & it was felt he couldn't get around the pitch as much as usual (it definitely looked like that as he had his worst game at the Amex). I know Orlandi's creativity & Stephens energy were missing but why not play Lopez or March in the advanced central position & Buckley wide to give us a little more attacking threat. As usual Oscar went for a safety first line-up with more emphasis on being solid rather than creative. Even with 11 men we were not a goal threat & when we went down to 10 you would have thought we were playing against Barcelona or Bayern Munich with the amount of ground & possession we conceded rather than against a very average Reading side. They were queuing up to take shots with no pressure on the ball & it was only a matter of time before one went in. When we realised it was part of the game to attack them we looked dangerous & should have scored on a couple of occasions. Buckley was at the heart of these moments which further proved the negative starting line-up. As each week passes it is becoming apparent we are a team that would rather draw 0-0 than 2-2 or win 1-0 over 3-2 & I am sure a lot of supporters patience is being tested. They want us to get behind the team but are feeding us mere scraps to get excited about. Oscar MUST begin to show more willingness to take a few chances because this safety first football will not get us in the play-offs. elljam
  • Score: 8

12:29pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
SMF - it seems that neither Buckley or KLL are fit to start, which is why the are on the subs' bench. March and JFC cannot be compared as they fulfil different roles.

And as for the late sub, with us hanging on you can be easily tempted into sticking with the team that is edging you towards a point, and only making a sub when it is absolutely necessary.
If they are not fit, it might be the reason they never recover properly!
I'm not taking about still suffering from an injury, I'm taking about match fitness/stamina, lost due to lack of action.
Lol what rubbish, they both have recurring hamstrings and neither are fit?
OG success this season is down to our defence,
Your quote " OG will next season move his players around the pitch like a chess player ? You based that on seeing the Albion 5 times this season?
On a serious note, Steve Walsh was at the Amex, ex saints player, now chief scout for Leicester, watching Leo Ulloa,
You're telling me that I didn't mean match fitness? If so, you're trying to tell me what point *I* was trying to make? I was talking about match fitness, not injury.

And as you seem to be slightly hard of understanding or deliberately thick I will yet again remind you that I been to approximately half the home games and watched all the televised ones, which equals about half the total games played this season. Now, tell me which part of that you still don't understand and I'll explain in words of one syllable. How many times do you need telling the same thing before it sinks in? Give me strength, what a muppet you are showing yourself to be, Mark. Arrogance and senility rolled into one.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: SMF - it seems that neither Buckley or KLL are fit to start, which is why the are on the subs' bench. March and JFC cannot be compared as they fulfil different roles. And as for the late sub, with us hanging on you can be easily tempted into sticking with the team that is edging you towards a point, and only making a sub when it is absolutely necessary.[/p][/quote]If they are not fit, it might be the reason they never recover properly![/p][/quote]I'm not taking about still suffering from an injury, I'm taking about match fitness/stamina, lost due to lack of action.[/p][/quote]Lol what rubbish, they both have recurring hamstrings and neither are fit? OG success this season is down to our defence, Your quote " OG will next season move his players around the pitch like a chess player ? You based that on seeing the Albion 5 times this season? On a serious note, Steve Walsh was at the Amex, ex saints player, now chief scout for Leicester, watching Leo Ulloa,[/p][/quote]You're telling me that I didn't mean match fitness? If so, you're trying to tell me what point *I* was trying to make? I was talking about match fitness, not injury. And as you seem to be slightly hard of understanding or deliberately thick I will yet again remind you that I been to approximately half the home games and watched all the televised ones, which equals about half the total games played this season. Now, tell me which part of that you still don't understand and I'll explain in words of one syllable. How many times do you need telling the same thing before it sinks in? Give me strength, what a muppet you are showing yourself to be, Mark. Arrogance and senility rolled into one. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 0

1:11pm Sun 9 Mar 14

mark by the sea says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
SMF - it seems that neither Buckley or KLL are fit to start, which is why the are on the subs' bench. March and JFC cannot be compared as they fulfil different roles.

And as for the late sub, with us hanging on you can be easily tempted into sticking with the team that is edging you towards a point, and only making a sub when it is absolutely necessary.
If they are not fit, it might be the reason they never recover properly!
I'm not taking about still suffering from an injury, I'm taking about match fitness/stamina, lost due to lack of action.
Lol what rubbish, they both have recurring hamstrings and neither are fit?
OG success this season is down to our defence,
Your quote " OG will next season move his players around the pitch like a chess player ? You based that on seeing the Albion 5 times this season?
On a serious note, Steve Walsh was at the Amex, ex saints player, now chief scout for Leicester, watching Leo Ulloa,
You're telling me that I didn't mean match fitness? If so, you're trying to tell me what point *I* was trying to make? I was talking about match fitness, not injury.

And as you seem to be slightly hard of understanding or deliberately thick I will yet again remind you that I been to approximately half the home games and watched all the televised ones, which equals about half the total games played this season. Now, tell me which part of that you still don't understand and I'll explain in words of one syllable. How many times do you need telling the same thing before it sinks in? Give me strength, what a muppet you are showing yourself to be, Mark. Arrogance and senility rolled into one.
So how many gaes has Buckley played 90 minutes .! Hardly none, and second point ... I said the squad is bare bones all season, yesterday we could not a centre mid on the subs bench, Tuesday we won't have a centre half and if ulloa gets injured we won't have a centre forward.
Explain how we have how we have scored 35 goals this season ? Is it OG moving his layers around like chess pieces? Ha ha honestly the crap you write! Tell me again when cms is going to make a impact?
I suppose march is also lacking fitness ? So how come ince played the full 90 after coming back from injury?
Truth is Arnie, OG won't play a attacking 11 and that's why we won't go up, Buckley march and lua lua all not fit to start? Then play 60 minutes go two up then go defensive. , ! Or won't the chess master do that?
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: SMF - it seems that neither Buckley or KLL are fit to start, which is why the are on the subs' bench. March and JFC cannot be compared as they fulfil different roles. And as for the late sub, with us hanging on you can be easily tempted into sticking with the team that is edging you towards a point, and only making a sub when it is absolutely necessary.[/p][/quote]If they are not fit, it might be the reason they never recover properly![/p][/quote]I'm not taking about still suffering from an injury, I'm taking about match fitness/stamina, lost due to lack of action.[/p][/quote]Lol what rubbish, they both have recurring hamstrings and neither are fit? OG success this season is down to our defence, Your quote " OG will next season move his players around the pitch like a chess player ? You based that on seeing the Albion 5 times this season? On a serious note, Steve Walsh was at the Amex, ex saints player, now chief scout for Leicester, watching Leo Ulloa,[/p][/quote]You're telling me that I didn't mean match fitness? If so, you're trying to tell me what point *I* was trying to make? I was talking about match fitness, not injury. And as you seem to be slightly hard of understanding or deliberately thick I will yet again remind you that I been to approximately half the home games and watched all the televised ones, which equals about half the total games played this season. Now, tell me which part of that you still don't understand and I'll explain in words of one syllable. How many times do you need telling the same thing before it sinks in? Give me strength, what a muppet you are showing yourself to be, Mark. Arrogance and senility rolled into one.[/p][/quote]So how many gaes has Buckley played 90 minutes .! Hardly none, and second point ... I said the squad is bare bones all season, yesterday we could not a centre mid on the subs bench, Tuesday we won't have a centre half and if ulloa gets injured we won't have a centre forward. Explain how we have how we have scored 35 goals this season ? Is it OG moving his layers around like chess pieces? Ha ha honestly the crap you write! Tell me again when cms is going to make a impact? I suppose march is also lacking fitness ? So how come ince played the full 90 after coming back from injury? Truth is Arnie, OG won't play a attacking 11 and that's why we won't go up, Buckley march and lua lua all not fit to start? Then play 60 minutes go two up then go defensive. , ! Or won't the chess master do that? mark by the sea
  • Score: 3

4:27pm Sun 9 Mar 14

tug509 says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
SMF - it seems that neither Buckley or KLL are fit to start, which is why the are on the subs' bench. March and JFC cannot be compared as they fulfil different roles.

And as for the late sub, with us hanging on you can be easily tempted into sticking with the team that is edging you towards a point, and only making a sub when it is absolutely necessary.
If they are not fit, it might be the reason they never recover properly!
I'm not taking about still suffering from an injury, I'm taking about match fitness/stamina, lost due to lack of action.
No offence ,but what part of Yorkshire are you from ?.
?
An innocent remark,a very good friend is from Bradford ,and you write with the same comments and expressions as he talks .
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: SMF - it seems that neither Buckley or KLL are fit to start, which is why the are on the subs' bench. March and JFC cannot be compared as they fulfil different roles. And as for the late sub, with us hanging on you can be easily tempted into sticking with the team that is edging you towards a point, and only making a sub when it is absolutely necessary.[/p][/quote]If they are not fit, it might be the reason they never recover properly![/p][/quote]I'm not taking about still suffering from an injury, I'm taking about match fitness/stamina, lost due to lack of action.[/p][/quote]No offence ,but what part of Yorkshire are you from ?.[/p][/quote]?[/p][/quote]An innocent remark,a very good friend is from Bradford ,and you write with the same comments and expressions as he talks . tug509
  • Score: 1

4:53pm Sun 9 Mar 14

wiseman of hove says...

elljam wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
To answer the Q... Ulloa

Just back from the game and am bitterly disappointed and incredibly frustrated.

Although some of my frustration can be shouldered on the referee for the worst performance and most ridiculous decision of the season thus far... I am even more frustrated by our management team for throwing away yet another winnable game.
I genuinely feel that they are making life very much more difficult for us than it should be.

I'm certainly not in the sack OG club but I am starting to wonder if he is the man to move us on.
Why oh why oh why do Andrews, JFC and Lopez get a starting berth in our first 11 time and time again. They are not up to the task in any discipline required and I find it simply astounding that they are continually selected over some of our brightest talent.
I understand of course that we were missing both Stephens and Orlandi today but all 3 of them starting... Really?

Buckley had a big bid made for him in January... We declined it yet he finds himself on the bench while Lopez who will be lucky to be kept gets yet another start.
March is recognised by skysports as a future star yet he gives way to young JFC who offers nothing.. A good lad and dedicated but way off the pace and simply not up to it.
Then there is Kaz... A game changer on his day and carried our sole threat for a lot of games earlier in this season and yet he has to watch some fella that's why past his best continually getting the nod.

While I appreciate all 3 above should probably not start... 2 of them should.
It is no coincidence to me that our most attacking threat in the game came when we had 10 men on the pitch but included Solly and Will... Weird how this is often the case... Am I missing something?

And finally. What made OG wait until the 85th minute to introduce the 3rd pair of fresh legs? Half of the midfield were dead on there feet yet he just let them carry on with their offering of nothing.

Really annoyed tonight and ready for the thumbs down.... Just bl00dy frustrated at our managements lack of ambition.

UTA
Excellent comments.

How is Ulloa not even on the 5 man short list (maybe the Argus reporter is on Albion's coaching staff). He won more aerial challenges than I've seen from him & held the ball up superbly whilst feeding on the usual scraps of support & service.
Kuszczak made one great save but should have stopped the goal, JFC huffed & puffed but definitely didn't blow the house down whilst Andrews looked like a fish out of water playing in a more advanced role. In fact the middle 3 of JFC, Ince & Andrews were as poor as I've seen all season with no creativity & no legs. I assume Andrews was given a more advanced role with Ince sitting deeper because Ince wasn't fully fit & it was felt he couldn't get around the pitch as much as usual (it definitely looked like that as he had his worst game at the Amex). I know Orlandi's creativity & Stephens energy were missing but why not play Lopez or March in the advanced central position & Buckley wide to give us a little more attacking threat. As usual Oscar went for a safety first line-up with more emphasis on being solid rather than creative.
Even with 11 men we were not a goal threat & when we went down to 10 you would have thought we were playing against Barcelona or Bayern Munich with the amount of ground & possession we conceded rather than against a very average Reading side. They were queuing up to take shots with no pressure on the ball & it was only a matter of time before one went in.
When we realised it was part of the game to attack them we looked dangerous & should have scored on a couple of occasions. Buckley was at the heart of these moments which further proved the negative starting line-up.
As each week passes it is becoming apparent we are a team that would rather draw 0-0 than 2-2 or win 1-0 over 3-2 & I am sure a lot of supporters patience is being tested. They want us to get behind the team but are feeding us mere scraps to get excited about.

Oscar MUST begin to show more willingness to take a few chances because this safety first football will not get us in the play-offs.
As good a post as I can recall for some time. If Orlandi and Stephens are missing from midfield on Tuesday and Oscar contrives not to start Buckley if fit, then I'm struggling to see where three points are coming from on Tuesday.
[quote][p][bold]elljam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: To answer the Q... Ulloa Just back from the game and am bitterly disappointed and incredibly frustrated. Although some of my frustration can be shouldered on the referee for the worst performance and most ridiculous decision of the season thus far... I am even more frustrated by our management team for throwing away yet another winnable game. I genuinely feel that they are making life very much more difficult for us than it should be. I'm certainly not in the sack OG club but I am starting to wonder if he is the man to move us on. Why oh why oh why do Andrews, JFC and Lopez get a starting berth in our first 11 time and time again. They are not up to the task in any discipline required and I find it simply astounding that they are continually selected over some of our brightest talent. I understand of course that we were missing both Stephens and Orlandi today but all 3 of them starting... Really? Buckley had a big bid made for him in January... We declined it yet he finds himself on the bench while Lopez who will be lucky to be kept gets yet another start. March is recognised by skysports as a future star yet he gives way to young JFC who offers nothing.. A good lad and dedicated but way off the pace and simply not up to it. Then there is Kaz... A game changer on his day and carried our sole threat for a lot of games earlier in this season and yet he has to watch some fella that's why past his best continually getting the nod. While I appreciate all 3 above should probably not start... 2 of them should. It is no coincidence to me that our most attacking threat in the game came when we had 10 men on the pitch but included Solly and Will... Weird how this is often the case... Am I missing something? And finally. What made OG wait until the 85th minute to introduce the 3rd pair of fresh legs? Half of the midfield were dead on there feet yet he just let them carry on with their offering of nothing. Really annoyed tonight and ready for the thumbs down.... Just bl00dy frustrated at our managements lack of ambition. UTA[/p][/quote]Excellent comments. How is Ulloa not even on the 5 man short list (maybe the Argus reporter is on Albion's coaching staff). He won more aerial challenges than I've seen from him & held the ball up superbly whilst feeding on the usual scraps of support & service. Kuszczak made one great save but should have stopped the goal, JFC huffed & puffed but definitely didn't blow the house down whilst Andrews looked like a fish out of water playing in a more advanced role. In fact the middle 3 of JFC, Ince & Andrews were as poor as I've seen all season with no creativity & no legs. I assume Andrews was given a more advanced role with Ince sitting deeper because Ince wasn't fully fit & it was felt he couldn't get around the pitch as much as usual (it definitely looked like that as he had his worst game at the Amex). I know Orlandi's creativity & Stephens energy were missing but why not play Lopez or March in the advanced central position & Buckley wide to give us a little more attacking threat. As usual Oscar went for a safety first line-up with more emphasis on being solid rather than creative. Even with 11 men we were not a goal threat & when we went down to 10 you would have thought we were playing against Barcelona or Bayern Munich with the amount of ground & possession we conceded rather than against a very average Reading side. They were queuing up to take shots with no pressure on the ball & it was only a matter of time before one went in. When we realised it was part of the game to attack them we looked dangerous & should have scored on a couple of occasions. Buckley was at the heart of these moments which further proved the negative starting line-up. As each week passes it is becoming apparent we are a team that would rather draw 0-0 than 2-2 or win 1-0 over 3-2 & I am sure a lot of supporters patience is being tested. They want us to get behind the team but are feeding us mere scraps to get excited about. Oscar MUST begin to show more willingness to take a few chances because this safety first football will not get us in the play-offs.[/p][/quote]As good a post as I can recall for some time. If Orlandi and Stephens are missing from midfield on Tuesday and Oscar contrives not to start Buckley if fit, then I'm struggling to see where three points are coming from on Tuesday. wiseman of hove
  • Score: 3

6:54pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Andrea Orlandigasm says...

I wonder if we'd be looking forward to playing Sheff United for a place in the FA Cup Final if we'd played our best keeper against Hull. Big opportunity missed.
I wonder if we'd be looking forward to playing Sheff United for a place in the FA Cup Final if we'd played our best keeper against Hull. Big opportunity missed. Andrea Orlandigasm
  • Score: 7

1:35am Tue 11 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Far gull wrote:
tug509 wrote:
SMF20 wrote: To answer the Q... Ulloa Just back from the game and am bitterly disappointed and incredibly frustrated. Although some of my frustration can be shouldered on the referee for the worst performance and most ridiculous decision of the season thus far... I am even more frustrated by our management team for throwing away yet another winnable game. I genuinely feel that they are making life very much more difficult for us than it should be. I'm certainly not in the sack OG club but I am starting to wonder if he is the man to move us on. Why oh why oh why do Andrews, JFC and Lopez get a starting berth in our first 11 time and time again. They are not up to the task in any discipline required and I find it simply astounding that they are continually selected over some of our brightest talent. I understand of course that we were missing both Stephens and Orlandi today but all 3 of them starting... Really? Buckley had a big bid made for him in January... We declined it yet he finds himself on the bench while Lopez who will be lucky to be kept gets yet another start. March is recognised by skysports as a future star yet he gives way to young JFC who offers nothing.. A good lad and dedicated but way off the pace and simply not up to it. Then there is Kaz... A game changer on his day and carried our sole threat for a lot of games earlier in this season and yet he has to watch some fella that's why past his best continually getting the nod. While I appreciate all 3 above should probably not start... 2 of them should. It is no coincidence to me that our most attacking threat in the game came when we had 10 men on the pitch but included Solly and Will... Weird how this is often the case... Am I missing something? And finally. What made OG wait until the 85th minute to introduce the 3rd pair of fresh legs? Half of the midfield were dead on there feet yet he just let them carry on with their offering of nothing. Really annoyed tonight and ready for the thumbs down.... Just bl00dy frustrated at our managements lack of ambition. UTA
Spot on , Excellent , On the money . I can only think that this is some awful attempt at squad rotation ,because of two close games ,if so ,guess feckin what ....it don't work !.
Hi,Guys ,with you all the way tonight. TK,Upson , Bruno ,Ward nothing but effort, Ince would have been good if pointer( Andrews ) had not kept getting in the way!! ( make that the side) Leo and Lingaard good but Guys I to am questioning OG now as injuries are an issue BUT ....1-- All the regulars around me today and I were all saying pre match Greer was at 33 having played in Poland game on Tuesday was going to be out of sorts ,low and behold what happened. Now if we can figure it why can't they. ! 2--- Andrews is -----p ,absolute waste of time him playing ,let alone with Ince,verses Wigan there was no need for two holding midfielders and yes we lost but not because of needing two holding players. 3---- jfc not that bad imho today but 2 of our attacking boys on bench out of three could have started. When are we going to try and win from the off get 2-3 ahead then save them for next game when we have all but won! If we had gone two up today you could see that there heads would have dropped(Reading) Am thoughly --------d off with management of team today as I believe they cost us the game more than the actual players on the pitch.!!!!
Just home . GG was flat footed for the tackle , and it was clumsy .. Thank god for our expert Arnie who was not there, but corrects those that were!
I was there and disagree with you. Greer deservedly got a yellow for clumsy first half challenge but second was very harsh indeed and the ref agreed until he was bullied like a weakling!
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: To answer the Q... Ulloa Just back from the game and am bitterly disappointed and incredibly frustrated. Although some of my frustration can be shouldered on the referee for the worst performance and most ridiculous decision of the season thus far... I am even more frustrated by our management team for throwing away yet another winnable game. I genuinely feel that they are making life very much more difficult for us than it should be. I'm certainly not in the sack OG club but I am starting to wonder if he is the man to move us on. Why oh why oh why do Andrews, JFC and Lopez get a starting berth in our first 11 time and time again. They are not up to the task in any discipline required and I find it simply astounding that they are continually selected over some of our brightest talent. I understand of course that we were missing both Stephens and Orlandi today but all 3 of them starting... Really? Buckley had a big bid made for him in January... We declined it yet he finds himself on the bench while Lopez who will be lucky to be kept gets yet another start. March is recognised by skysports as a future star yet he gives way to young JFC who offers nothing.. A good lad and dedicated but way off the pace and simply not up to it. Then there is Kaz... A game changer on his day and carried our sole threat for a lot of games earlier in this season and yet he has to watch some fella that's why past his best continually getting the nod. While I appreciate all 3 above should probably not start... 2 of them should. It is no coincidence to me that our most attacking threat in the game came when we had 10 men on the pitch but included Solly and Will... Weird how this is often the case... Am I missing something? And finally. What made OG wait until the 85th minute to introduce the 3rd pair of fresh legs? Half of the midfield were dead on there feet yet he just let them carry on with their offering of nothing. Really annoyed tonight and ready for the thumbs down.... Just bl00dy frustrated at our managements lack of ambition. UTA[/p][/quote]Spot on , Excellent , On the money . I can only think that this is some awful attempt at squad rotation ,because of two close games ,if so ,guess feckin what ....it don't work !.[/p][/quote]Hi,Guys ,with you all the way tonight. TK,Upson , Bruno ,Ward nothing but effort, Ince would have been good if pointer( Andrews ) had not kept getting in the way!! ( make that the side) Leo and Lingaard good but Guys I to am questioning OG now as injuries are an issue BUT ....1-- All the regulars around me today and I were all saying pre match Greer was at 33 having played in Poland game on Tuesday was going to be out of sorts ,low and behold what happened. Now if we can figure it why can't they. ! 2--- Andrews is -----p ,absolute waste of time him playing ,let alone with Ince,verses Wigan there was no need for two holding midfielders and yes we lost but not because of needing two holding players. 3---- jfc not that bad imho today but 2 of our attacking boys on bench out of three could have started. When are we going to try and win from the off get 2-3 ahead then save them for next game when we have all but won! If we had gone two up today you could see that there heads would have dropped(Reading) Am thoughly --------d off with management of team today as I believe they cost us the game more than the actual players on the pitch.!!!![/p][/quote]Just home . GG was flat footed for the tackle , and it was clumsy .. Thank god for our expert Arnie who was not there, but corrects those that were![/p][/quote]I was there and disagree with you. Greer deservedly got a yellow for clumsy first half challenge but second was very harsh indeed and the ref agreed until he was bullied like a weakling! Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

7:12am Tue 11 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

Chi Gull wrote:
In the first half both teams were below par. Yes the starting 11 could have been more attacking, but until Greer got sent off I was thinking we were 1-0 up without playing well and not really in trouble, with all that flair on the bench to rip them apart in the last 30 mins. The sending off changed all that and we rather lost our shape and tactics for a while. I thought Bruno, Lopez and Ulloa combined well on a few occasions in the first half without it leading to much - apart from the comedy goal. Going down to 10 men exposed our lack of pace in midfield and down our left flank. Ward was struggling and not getting a lot of help. I thought Ince was not as effective as usual. Bruno continued his run of good form. As others have said, Andrews wouldn't start if Stephens was available. Neither would JFC if Orlandi was fully fit. Given our injuries and fitness problems its difficult for OG to pick a consistently strong team. I think if just one of March, Buckley or KLL had started, there would be less moaning on here. As it was, Greer's rash challenge probably cost us 2 points. His first booking was harsh I thought, the 2nd was inevitable once Le Fondre had gone down holding his face and rolling around - only to get straight back up and run to his position once the red card had been shown. I think we will beat QPR !!
An excellent post as always. Saves me posting my views tbh as you seem to have the same word-for-word!
[quote][p][bold]Chi Gull[/bold] wrote: In the first half both teams were below par. Yes the starting 11 could have been more attacking, but until Greer got sent off I was thinking we were 1-0 up without playing well and not really in trouble, with all that flair on the bench to rip them apart in the last 30 mins. The sending off changed all that and we rather lost our shape and tactics for a while. I thought Bruno, Lopez and Ulloa combined well on a few occasions in the first half without it leading to much - apart from the comedy goal. Going down to 10 men exposed our lack of pace in midfield and down our left flank. Ward was struggling and not getting a lot of help. I thought Ince was not as effective as usual. Bruno continued his run of good form. As others have said, Andrews wouldn't start if Stephens was available. Neither would JFC if Orlandi was fully fit. Given our injuries and fitness problems its difficult for OG to pick a consistently strong team. I think if just one of March, Buckley or KLL had started, there would be less moaning on here. As it was, Greer's rash challenge probably cost us 2 points. His first booking was harsh I thought, the 2nd was inevitable once Le Fondre had gone down holding his face and rolling around - only to get straight back up and run to his position once the red card had been shown. I think we will beat QPR !![/p][/quote]An excellent post as always. Saves me posting my views tbh as you seem to have the same word-for-word! Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

7:24am Tue 11 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

Far gull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
JFC1 wrote:
Oscar's team selection & motivation skills are beginning to worry me slightly.....
Yes where is the game changing tactics ? Negative at home ,
We are close to the play offs due to our defence, and ulloa, both will be gone come August
Yes they may be gone come next season,god help us if we don't go up as not sure this management up to it. OG may be a better no 2 ,with a ' Harry ' type required as a no 1 ,but the rub is no top manager would work under Barber and Burke !!!?
Oscar is a head coach not a number two. We are doing well all things considered. Negative tactics are partly a matter of perception in this case and where actual are largely down to necessity. Oscar appears to be having to juggle a number of never-fully-fit players and rookies...pretty good ones in two cases but rookies none the less. I'm satisfied, albeit a LITTLE worried.

I'd give up my season ticket if Redknapp was appointed. My £465 would be spent on fuel alone as the ruddy-faced spendthrifty dinosaur spoke to the press outside the Lancing training facility about what a "top, top, player" Player X is but how he doesn't know what's happening yet and it's not right to speak about him yet.

If Bloom appoints Dirty Arry, he would have demonstrated insanity as he demolishes his proud legacy with one swoop.
[quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JFC1[/bold] wrote: Oscar's team selection & motivation skills are beginning to worry me slightly.....[/p][/quote]Yes where is the game changing tactics ? Negative at home , We are close to the play offs due to our defence, and ulloa, both will be gone come August[/p][/quote]Yes they may be gone come next season,god help us if we don't go up as not sure this management up to it. OG may be a better no 2 ,with a ' Harry ' type required as a no 1 ,but the rub is no top manager would work under Barber and Burke !!!?[/p][/quote]Oscar is a head coach not a number two. We are doing well all things considered. Negative tactics are partly a matter of perception in this case and where actual are largely down to necessity. Oscar appears to be having to juggle a number of never-fully-fit players and rookies...pretty good ones in two cases but rookies none the less. I'm satisfied, albeit a LITTLE worried. I'd give up my season ticket if Redknapp was appointed. My £465 would be spent on fuel alone as the ruddy-faced spendthrifty dinosaur spoke to the press outside the Lancing training facility about what a "top, top, player" Player X is but how he doesn't know what's happening yet and it's not right to speak about him yet. If Bloom appoints Dirty Arry, he would have demonstrated insanity as he demolishes his proud legacy with one swoop. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

7:31am Tue 11 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

P.S QPR are a reported £177m in debt, largely down to Dirty Arry's hungry appetite at Le Restaurant Du Transferre. We are in debt to To y for approximately the same amount only Tony Spent his lunch money on a Stunning palace and a thoroughbreds' stables. I'd rather see Tony's thoroughbreds ride around the grounds under the tutelage of a thoughtful trainer and enjoy their magnificence for decades to come than smell the stench of Arry's lunch the day after his feast, so to speak.
P.S QPR are a reported £177m in debt, largely down to Dirty Arry's hungry appetite at Le Restaurant Du Transferre. We are in debt to To y for approximately the same amount only Tony Spent his lunch money on a Stunning palace and a thoroughbreds' stables. I'd rather see Tony's thoroughbreds ride around the grounds under the tutelage of a thoughtful trainer and enjoy their magnificence for decades to come than smell the stench of Arry's lunch the day after his feast, so to speak. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

7:36am Tue 11 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

elljam wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
To answer the Q... Ulloa

Just back from the game and am bitterly disappointed and incredibly frustrated.

Although some of my frustration can be shouldered on the referee for the worst performance and most ridiculous decision of the season thus far... I am even more frustrated by our management team for throwing away yet another winnable game.
I genuinely feel that they are making life very much more difficult for us than it should be.

I'm certainly not in the sack OG club but I am starting to wonder if he is the man to move us on.
Why oh why oh why do Andrews, JFC and Lopez get a starting berth in our first 11 time and time again. They are not up to the task in any discipline required and I find it simply astounding that they are continually selected over some of our brightest talent.
I understand of course that we were missing both Stephens and Orlandi today but all 3 of them starting... Really?

Buckley had a big bid made for him in January... We declined it yet he finds himself on the bench while Lopez who will be lucky to be kept gets yet another start.
March is recognised by skysports as a future star yet he gives way to young JFC who offers nothing.. A good lad and dedicated but way off the pace and simply not up to it.
Then there is Kaz... A game changer on his day and carried our sole threat for a lot of games earlier in this season and yet he has to watch some fella that's why past his best continually getting the nod.

While I appreciate all 3 above should probably not start... 2 of them should.
It is no coincidence to me that our most attacking threat in the game came when we had 10 men on the pitch but included Solly and Will... Weird how this is often the case... Am I missing something?

And finally. What made OG wait until the 85th minute to introduce the 3rd pair of fresh legs? Half of the midfield were dead on there feet yet he just let them carry on with their offering of nothing.

Really annoyed tonight and ready for the thumbs down.... Just bl00dy frustrated at our managements lack of ambition.

UTA
Excellent comments.

How is Ulloa not even on the 5 man short list (maybe the Argus reporter is on Albion's coaching staff). He won more aerial challenges than I've seen from him & held the ball up superbly whilst feeding on the usual scraps of support & service.
Kuszczak made one great save but should have stopped the goal, JFC huffed & puffed but definitely didn't blow the house down whilst Andrews looked like a fish out of water playing in a more advanced role. In fact the middle 3 of JFC, Ince & Andrews were as poor as I've seen all season with no creativity & no legs. I assume Andrews was given a more advanced role with Ince sitting deeper because Ince wasn't fully fit & it was felt he couldn't get around the pitch as much as usual (it definitely looked like that as he had his worst game at the Amex). I know Orlandi's creativity & Stephens energy were missing but why not play Lopez or March in the advanced central position & Buckley wide to give us a little more attacking threat. As usual Oscar went for a safety first line-up with more emphasis on being solid rather than creative.
Even with 11 men we were not a goal threat & when we went down to 10 you would have thought we were playing against Barcelona or Bayern Munich with the amount of ground & possession we conceded rather than against a very average Reading side. They were queuing up to take shots with no pressure on the ball & it was only a matter of time before one went in.
When we realised it was part of the game to attack them we looked dangerous & should have scored on a couple of occasions. Buckley was at the heart of these moments which further proved the negative starting line-up.
As each week passes it is becoming apparent we are a team that would rather draw 0-0 than 2-2 or win 1-0 over 3-2 & I am sure a lot of supporters patience is being tested. They want us to get behind the team but are feeding us mere scraps to get excited about.

Oscar MUST begin to show more willingness to take a few chances because this safety first football will not get us in the play-offs.
A well worded summation, Elljam. Always enjoy reading your posts.
[quote][p][bold]elljam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: To answer the Q... Ulloa Just back from the game and am bitterly disappointed and incredibly frustrated. Although some of my frustration can be shouldered on the referee for the worst performance and most ridiculous decision of the season thus far... I am even more frustrated by our management team for throwing away yet another winnable game. I genuinely feel that they are making life very much more difficult for us than it should be. I'm certainly not in the sack OG club but I am starting to wonder if he is the man to move us on. Why oh why oh why do Andrews, JFC and Lopez get a starting berth in our first 11 time and time again. They are not up to the task in any discipline required and I find it simply astounding that they are continually selected over some of our brightest talent. I understand of course that we were missing both Stephens and Orlandi today but all 3 of them starting... Really? Buckley had a big bid made for him in January... We declined it yet he finds himself on the bench while Lopez who will be lucky to be kept gets yet another start. March is recognised by skysports as a future star yet he gives way to young JFC who offers nothing.. A good lad and dedicated but way off the pace and simply not up to it. Then there is Kaz... A game changer on his day and carried our sole threat for a lot of games earlier in this season and yet he has to watch some fella that's why past his best continually getting the nod. While I appreciate all 3 above should probably not start... 2 of them should. It is no coincidence to me that our most attacking threat in the game came when we had 10 men on the pitch but included Solly and Will... Weird how this is often the case... Am I missing something? And finally. What made OG wait until the 85th minute to introduce the 3rd pair of fresh legs? Half of the midfield were dead on there feet yet he just let them carry on with their offering of nothing. Really annoyed tonight and ready for the thumbs down.... Just bl00dy frustrated at our managements lack of ambition. UTA[/p][/quote]Excellent comments. How is Ulloa not even on the 5 man short list (maybe the Argus reporter is on Albion's coaching staff). He won more aerial challenges than I've seen from him & held the ball up superbly whilst feeding on the usual scraps of support & service. Kuszczak made one great save but should have stopped the goal, JFC huffed & puffed but definitely didn't blow the house down whilst Andrews looked like a fish out of water playing in a more advanced role. In fact the middle 3 of JFC, Ince & Andrews were as poor as I've seen all season with no creativity & no legs. I assume Andrews was given a more advanced role with Ince sitting deeper because Ince wasn't fully fit & it was felt he couldn't get around the pitch as much as usual (it definitely looked like that as he had his worst game at the Amex). I know Orlandi's creativity & Stephens energy were missing but why not play Lopez or March in the advanced central position & Buckley wide to give us a little more attacking threat. As usual Oscar went for a safety first line-up with more emphasis on being solid rather than creative. Even with 11 men we were not a goal threat & when we went down to 10 you would have thought we were playing against Barcelona or Bayern Munich with the amount of ground & possession we conceded rather than against a very average Reading side. They were queuing up to take shots with no pressure on the ball & it was only a matter of time before one went in. When we realised it was part of the game to attack them we looked dangerous & should have scored on a couple of occasions. Buckley was at the heart of these moments which further proved the negative starting line-up. As each week passes it is becoming apparent we are a team that would rather draw 0-0 than 2-2 or win 1-0 over 3-2 & I am sure a lot of supporters patience is being tested. They want us to get behind the team but are feeding us mere scraps to get excited about. Oscar MUST begin to show more willingness to take a few chances because this safety first football will not get us in the play-offs.[/p][/quote]A well worded summation, Elljam. Always enjoy reading your posts. Captain Haddock
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