Adkins backs ref - but admits Albion (and Yeovil) made life tough

Nigel Adkins and Oscar Garcia on the touchline

Nigel Adkins and Oscar Garcia on the touchline

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Reading boss Nigel Adkins reckons Fred Graham was right to send off Albion’s captain yesterday.

And he reckons his team’s array of exciting players can lead to opponents picking up red and yellow cards.

Gordon Greer was dismissed for two bookable offences in the 1-1 draw at the Amex.

Reading also drew 1-1 last week at home to a Yeovil side reduced to eight men.

Adkins reckons opponents struggle to cope with his team but admitted their failure to win the last two games was a frustration.

He said: “We have got exciting players at our football club who take people on and go past them.

“There could have been more players sent off last week when you analyse the game – which you don’t want to see.

“Supporters want to see 11 v 11 on a pitch.

“Sometimes it is quite challenging when everybody is in the six-yard box and you have got to break them down.

“Goalkeepers have man-of-the-match performances and pull off worldy saves.

“Last week it was not as if we didn’t create chances.

“But it is frustrating when you have a numerical advantage that you don’t capitalise on it.

“The important thing I suppose in that situation is you don’t lose the game.”

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2:09pm Sun 9 Mar 14

NIMBY hater says...

"Supporters want to see 11 v 11 on a pitch"
Shame Twatkins and his staff and players don't thnk the same way.
"Supporters want to see 11 v 11 on a pitch" Shame Twatkins and his staff and players don't thnk the same way. NIMBY hater
  • Score: 18

2:22pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Uckfield Seagull says...

Was at the game yesterday and to be honest thought the draw was a fair result, TC made a couple of fantastic saves to earn MOM rightly so, the Greer dismissal was one of those, sometimes you get decisions and sometimes you don’t, we got 3 points at Millwall via a fortunate decision and got a point yesterday, without the pen at Millwall we would of only had 2 points out of 6 instead of 4 so no complaints for me, Oscar's reaction is the correct one, let’s look forward and not back.
I have total confidence in Oscar and feel he has done a good job in his first season, I am hoping he has learnt and can use his experience now to have a good end to season and if no success this year, then next season a real push can be made, however a few points from yesterday I feel need to be addressed, firstly we need to build a team around Ulloa, he is our best player, great having 2 forward players up top, but my concern was the lack of width and pace, we need to start getting balls into the box with quality from wide areas, in my opinion there is no point having Buckley on the bench, let’s start him and see how long he can last, if no Buckley then Lua Lua or March simply have to start to provide this width, we looked pretty narrow yesterday, I do feel Oscar is pretty negative, especially at home, cannot rely on 1 nil all the time, and if nil nil after 60 bringing on our impact players to change the game will not always work. Second area of concern is the quality we are bringing into the club, I don’t like to harp on about the Poyet era, but Bridcutt, Lua Lua, Bridge, Ulloa, Orlandi, TC, Bruno, Lopez were all signed by Poyet, so far this year, we have had Obika, Lita, Stephens, Rodriquez, Andrews, Kemy, the difference is quite staggering, as I said before I wonder if it was Jones bringing some of these players in as he seems to have a Yeovil, Charlton connection, I have to be honest I am not the biggest fan of Jones and wonder what he brings to the table. Feel we need somebody a little more respected in the game rather than league 1 level. Very happy though that Oscar likes to give youth a chance, Ince has been the success story of the season by far. Once again I just want to add as a club we are in a great position, we have some of the best fans in the country, we have a youth development system which is the envy of most other clubs, we have a stadium which is frankly one of the best in the world, yes the world, we have a chairman who bleeds blue and white, we will soon have training facilities which will match anything anywhere on offer, and we have people who are running the club within budget and not over spending, we will get to the promised land of the premiership sooner or later and the satisfaction will be doing it within the rules and by running the club properly, we are very lucky to be supporting such a wonderful asset to Sussex By The Sea
Was at the game yesterday and to be honest thought the draw was a fair result, TC made a couple of fantastic saves to earn MOM rightly so, the Greer dismissal was one of those, sometimes you get decisions and sometimes you don’t, we got 3 points at Millwall via a fortunate decision and got a point yesterday, without the pen at Millwall we would of only had 2 points out of 6 instead of 4 so no complaints for me, Oscar's reaction is the correct one, let’s look forward and not back. I have total confidence in Oscar and feel he has done a good job in his first season, I am hoping he has learnt and can use his experience now to have a good end to season and if no success this year, then next season a real push can be made, however a few points from yesterday I feel need to be addressed, firstly we need to build a team around Ulloa, he is our best player, great having 2 forward players up top, but my concern was the lack of width and pace, we need to start getting balls into the box with quality from wide areas, in my opinion there is no point having Buckley on the bench, let’s start him and see how long he can last, if no Buckley then Lua Lua or March simply have to start to provide this width, we looked pretty narrow yesterday, I do feel Oscar is pretty negative, especially at home, cannot rely on 1 nil all the time, and if nil nil after 60 bringing on our impact players to change the game will not always work. Second area of concern is the quality we are bringing into the club, I don’t like to harp on about the Poyet era, but Bridcutt, Lua Lua, Bridge, Ulloa, Orlandi, TC, Bruno, Lopez were all signed by Poyet, so far this year, we have had Obika, Lita, Stephens, Rodriquez, Andrews, Kemy, the difference is quite staggering, as I said before I wonder if it was Jones bringing some of these players in as he seems to have a Yeovil, Charlton connection, I have to be honest I am not the biggest fan of Jones and wonder what he brings to the table. Feel we need somebody a little more respected in the game rather than league 1 level. Very happy though that Oscar likes to give youth a chance, Ince has been the success story of the season by far. Once again I just want to add as a club we are in a great position, we have some of the best fans in the country, we have a youth development system which is the envy of most other clubs, we have a stadium which is frankly one of the best in the world, yes the world, we have a chairman who bleeds blue and white, we will soon have training facilities which will match anything anywhere on offer, and we have people who are running the club within budget and not over spending, we will get to the promised land of the premiership sooner or later and the satisfaction will be doing it within the rules and by running the club properly, we are very lucky to be supporting such a wonderful asset to Sussex By The Sea Uckfield Seagull
  • Score: 39

2:26pm Sun 9 Mar 14

PressBoxTeaBoy says...

Yeah, thanks Nigel. We've also got exciting players that can take people on, go past them, and cause general havok to get players booked, but our wise old head coach chooses to not start a game with them?

Every week the same, no LuaLua, no Buckley, no March, but at least we always get a small glimpse of them toward the end of the game when its always too late.
Yeah, thanks Nigel. We've also got exciting players that can take people on, go past them, and cause general havok to get players booked, but our wise old head coach chooses to not start a game with them? Every week the same, no LuaLua, no Buckley, no March, but at least we always get a small glimpse of them toward the end of the game when its always too late. PressBoxTeaBoy
  • Score: 3

2:38pm Sun 9 Mar 14

The Phantom says...

On a separate issue, just watched Burnley come from behind to win 2-1 at Blackburn. Absolutely amazing what Sean Dyche is achieving with a small squad with arguably less ability and less strength in depth than Brightons. Practically the same first X1 playing every game with passion, a positive intent and a will to win - no signs of tiredness so far and still going strong.
On a separate issue, just watched Burnley come from behind to win 2-1 at Blackburn. Absolutely amazing what Sean Dyche is achieving with a small squad with arguably less ability and less strength in depth than Brightons. Practically the same first X1 playing every game with passion, a positive intent and a will to win - no signs of tiredness so far and still going strong. The Phantom
  • Score: 17

2:44pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Gee Jay says...

Uckfield Seagull wrote:
Was at the game yesterday and to be honest thought the draw was a fair result, TC made a couple of fantastic saves to earn MOM rightly so, the Greer dismissal was one of those, sometimes you get decisions and sometimes you don’t, we got 3 points at Millwall via a fortunate decision and got a point yesterday, without the pen at Millwall we would of only had 2 points out of 6 instead of 4 so no complaints for me, Oscar's reaction is the correct one, let’s look forward and not back. I have total confidence in Oscar and feel he has done a good job in his first season, I am hoping he has learnt and can use his experience now to have a good end to season and if no success this year, then next season a real push can be made, however a few points from yesterday I feel need to be addressed, firstly we need to build a team around Ulloa, he is our best player, great having 2 forward players up top, but my concern was the lack of width and pace, we need to start getting balls into the box with quality from wide areas, in my opinion there is no point having Buckley on the bench, let’s start him and see how long he can last, if no Buckley then Lua Lua or March simply have to start to provide this width, we looked pretty narrow yesterday, I do feel Oscar is pretty negative, especially at home, cannot rely on 1 nil all the time, and if nil nil after 60 bringing on our impact players to change the game will not always work. Second area of concern is the quality we are bringing into the club, I don’t like to harp on about the Poyet era, but Bridcutt, Lua Lua, Bridge, Ulloa, Orlandi, TC, Bruno, Lopez were all signed by Poyet, so far this year, we have had Obika, Lita, Stephens, Rodriquez, Andrews, Kemy, the difference is quite staggering, as I said before I wonder if it was Jones bringing some of these players in as he seems to have a Yeovil, Charlton connection, I have to be honest I am not the biggest fan of Jones and wonder what he brings to the table. Feel we need somebody a little more respected in the game rather than league 1 level. Very happy though that Oscar likes to give youth a chance, Ince has been the success story of the season by far. Once again I just want to add as a club we are in a great position, we have some of the best fans in the country, we have a youth development system which is the envy of most other clubs, we have a stadium which is frankly one of the best in the world, yes the world, we have a chairman who bleeds blue and white, we will soon have training facilities which will match anything anywhere on offer, and we have people who are running the club within budget and not over spending, we will get to the promised land of the premiership sooner or later and the satisfaction will be doing it within the rules and by running the club properly, we are very lucky to be supporting such a wonderful asset to Sussex By The Sea
I am 100% in agreement, there is nothing to add!
[quote][p][bold]Uckfield Seagull[/bold] wrote: Was at the game yesterday and to be honest thought the draw was a fair result, TC made a couple of fantastic saves to earn MOM rightly so, the Greer dismissal was one of those, sometimes you get decisions and sometimes you don’t, we got 3 points at Millwall via a fortunate decision and got a point yesterday, without the pen at Millwall we would of only had 2 points out of 6 instead of 4 so no complaints for me, Oscar's reaction is the correct one, let’s look forward and not back. I have total confidence in Oscar and feel he has done a good job in his first season, I am hoping he has learnt and can use his experience now to have a good end to season and if no success this year, then next season a real push can be made, however a few points from yesterday I feel need to be addressed, firstly we need to build a team around Ulloa, he is our best player, great having 2 forward players up top, but my concern was the lack of width and pace, we need to start getting balls into the box with quality from wide areas, in my opinion there is no point having Buckley on the bench, let’s start him and see how long he can last, if no Buckley then Lua Lua or March simply have to start to provide this width, we looked pretty narrow yesterday, I do feel Oscar is pretty negative, especially at home, cannot rely on 1 nil all the time, and if nil nil after 60 bringing on our impact players to change the game will not always work. Second area of concern is the quality we are bringing into the club, I don’t like to harp on about the Poyet era, but Bridcutt, Lua Lua, Bridge, Ulloa, Orlandi, TC, Bruno, Lopez were all signed by Poyet, so far this year, we have had Obika, Lita, Stephens, Rodriquez, Andrews, Kemy, the difference is quite staggering, as I said before I wonder if it was Jones bringing some of these players in as he seems to have a Yeovil, Charlton connection, I have to be honest I am not the biggest fan of Jones and wonder what he brings to the table. Feel we need somebody a little more respected in the game rather than league 1 level. Very happy though that Oscar likes to give youth a chance, Ince has been the success story of the season by far. Once again I just want to add as a club we are in a great position, we have some of the best fans in the country, we have a youth development system which is the envy of most other clubs, we have a stadium which is frankly one of the best in the world, yes the world, we have a chairman who bleeds blue and white, we will soon have training facilities which will match anything anywhere on offer, and we have people who are running the club within budget and not over spending, we will get to the promised land of the premiership sooner or later and the satisfaction will be doing it within the rules and by running the club properly, we are very lucky to be supporting such a wonderful asset to Sussex By The Sea[/p][/quote]I am 100% in agreement, there is nothing to add! Gee Jay
  • Score: 3

3:06pm Sun 9 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

The decision not to start with one wide player yesterday seems a little bit puzzling but with both Lingard and David both able to get wide, it's not as though we didn't have anyone to pop a few crosses in. We often hear, after the event, why a certain player didn't make the team sheet, a knock that we didn't know about, and that is understandable, but I would love to know what the thinking was re yesterday's line up considering who we had on the bench.

We were at home, we were in a six pointer match, a result was wanted by both sides and Oscar sent out an eleven that he thought could get the points. On Tuesday we will be in the exact same position so do we expect Oscar to send out the same eleven, (Dunk in for Greer), or perhaps I should ask, will Oscar's pre match thinking be the same, we start without a wide player.
If Oscar changes things for the visit of QPR, is that a tacit admission that he got it wrong against Reading or, is he expecting QPR to offer a different challenge than that we faced from Reading. We went 50 minutes with eleven on the park and didn't score, that might suggest that the plan didn't work. It might seem that I am having a pop at Oscar, and for once perhaps I am, but what I am really trying to do is to get some idea of what Oscar's thinking was, what was the expected gain from deciding not to start with one wide player, even if Lingard and David can get wide.

Anyone got any thoughts?
The decision not to start with one wide player yesterday seems a little bit puzzling but with both Lingard and David both able to get wide, it's not as though we didn't have anyone to pop a few crosses in. We often hear, after the event, why a certain player didn't make the team sheet, a knock that we didn't know about, and that is understandable, but I would love to know what the thinking was re yesterday's line up considering who we had on the bench. We were at home, we were in a six pointer match, a result was wanted by both sides and Oscar sent out an eleven that he thought could get the points. On Tuesday we will be in the exact same position so do we expect Oscar to send out the same eleven, (Dunk in for Greer), or perhaps I should ask, will Oscar's pre match thinking be the same, we start without a wide player. If Oscar changes things for the visit of QPR, is that a tacit admission that he got it wrong against Reading or, is he expecting QPR to offer a different challenge than that we faced from Reading. We went 50 minutes with eleven on the park and didn't score, that might suggest that the plan didn't work. It might seem that I am having a pop at Oscar, and for once perhaps I am, but what I am really trying to do is to get some idea of what Oscar's thinking was, what was the expected gain from deciding not to start with one wide player, even if Lingard and David can get wide. Anyone got any thoughts? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

4:19pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Asleep in Dorset says...

much as I agree with some of Uckfield Seagull's comments, Ulloa's body language tells me he wants away.
much as I agree with some of Uckfield Seagull's comments, Ulloa's body language tells me he wants away. Asleep in Dorset
  • Score: -11

4:26pm Sun 9 Mar 14

pte says...

OG was being cautious, saving the players with an eye on the Rangers match. We want to win but we don't want to get beaten either. Buckley could have scored 2 so after his little run out might be ready to score 2 against qpr
OG was being cautious, saving the players with an eye on the Rangers match. We want to win but we don't want to get beaten either. Buckley could have scored 2 so after his little run out might be ready to score 2 against qpr pte
  • Score: 3

4:36pm Sun 9 Mar 14

To baldly go says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
The decision not to start with one wide player yesterday seems a little bit puzzling but with both Lingard and David both able to get wide, it's not as though we didn't have anyone to pop a few crosses in. We often hear, after the event, why a certain player didn't make the team sheet, a knock that we didn't know about, and that is understandable, but I would love to know what the thinking was re yesterday's line up considering who we had on the bench.

We were at home, we were in a six pointer match, a result was wanted by both sides and Oscar sent out an eleven that he thought could get the points. On Tuesday we will be in the exact same position so do we expect Oscar to send out the same eleven, (Dunk in for Greer), or perhaps I should ask, will Oscar's pre match thinking be the same, we start without a wide player.
If Oscar changes things for the visit of QPR, is that a tacit admission that he got it wrong against Reading or, is he expecting QPR to offer a different challenge than that we faced from Reading. We went 50 minutes with eleven on the park and didn't score, that might suggest that the plan didn't work. It might seem that I am having a pop at Oscar, and for once perhaps I am, but what I am really trying to do is to get some idea of what Oscar's thinking was, what was the expected gain from deciding not to start with one wide player, even if Lingard and David can get wide.

Anyone got any thoughts?
Fear of conceding a goal was Oscars thinking, but we all know attack is the best form of defence, especially at home, when we play 2 wide players with pace we can rip teams apart but we never stick to that game plan.
We have wingers with pace and skill, Buckley, LuaLua, March, Rodney so why not pick even one of them is a strange one, as soon as Buckley came on, even with 10 men we posed a threat. If, as we know they are not 100% fit give them half a game each! looking at the table, only the bottom 6 have scored less than us!
QPR will park the bus and hope to beat us on the break, but if we play a true 4-3-3 we will beat them. They have scored only a few more than us, but have conceded less so they will be hard to breakdown.
If fit team for Tuesday : TK, Bruno, Upson, Dunk, Ward, Ince, Stevens, Orlandi, Lingard, Buckley and Ulloa. Subs, Brez, Caldi, March, Andrews, LuaLua, Rodney, Obika.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: The decision not to start with one wide player yesterday seems a little bit puzzling but with both Lingard and David both able to get wide, it's not as though we didn't have anyone to pop a few crosses in. We often hear, after the event, why a certain player didn't make the team sheet, a knock that we didn't know about, and that is understandable, but I would love to know what the thinking was re yesterday's line up considering who we had on the bench. We were at home, we were in a six pointer match, a result was wanted by both sides and Oscar sent out an eleven that he thought could get the points. On Tuesday we will be in the exact same position so do we expect Oscar to send out the same eleven, (Dunk in for Greer), or perhaps I should ask, will Oscar's pre match thinking be the same, we start without a wide player. If Oscar changes things for the visit of QPR, is that a tacit admission that he got it wrong against Reading or, is he expecting QPR to offer a different challenge than that we faced from Reading. We went 50 minutes with eleven on the park and didn't score, that might suggest that the plan didn't work. It might seem that I am having a pop at Oscar, and for once perhaps I am, but what I am really trying to do is to get some idea of what Oscar's thinking was, what was the expected gain from deciding not to start with one wide player, even if Lingard and David can get wide. Anyone got any thoughts?[/p][/quote]Fear of conceding a goal was Oscars thinking, but we all know attack is the best form of defence, especially at home, when we play 2 wide players with pace we can rip teams apart but we never stick to that game plan. We have wingers with pace and skill, Buckley, LuaLua, March, Rodney so why not pick even one of them is a strange one, as soon as Buckley came on, even with 10 men we posed a threat. If, as we know they are not 100% fit give them half a game each! looking at the table, only the bottom 6 have scored less than us! QPR will park the bus and hope to beat us on the break, but if we play a true 4-3-3 we will beat them. They have scored only a few more than us, but have conceded less so they will be hard to breakdown. If fit team for Tuesday : TK, Bruno, Upson, Dunk, Ward, Ince, Stevens, Orlandi, Lingard, Buckley and Ulloa. Subs, Brez, Caldi, March, Andrews, LuaLua, Rodney, Obika. To baldly go
  • Score: 3

4:38pm Sun 9 Mar 14

ringtone says...

Two clear bookable offences for Greer, so sending off 100% correct.

Some idiots on here last night were trying to deflect blame by saying Reading players influenced the ref, lol, and the Reading manager has a history of getting his players to intimidate the ref, you cant make this up.

Vegas and Arnie do not have to watch the rubbish the real fans do, they just type offal from their Ivory towers.
Two clear bookable offences for Greer, so sending off 100% correct. Some idiots on here last night were trying to deflect blame by saying Reading players influenced the ref, lol, and the Reading manager has a history of getting his players to intimidate the ref, you cant make this up. Vegas and Arnie do not have to watch the rubbish the real fans do, they just type offal from their Ivory towers. ringtone
  • Score: -12

4:43pm Sun 9 Mar 14

To baldly go says...

Asleep in Dorset wrote:
much as I agree with some of Uckfield Seagull's comments, Ulloa's body language tells me he wants away.
Don't think he wants away, he wants someone to help him! we have the players but seem to be reluctant to play them for some reason.
[quote][p][bold]Asleep in Dorset[/bold] wrote: much as I agree with some of Uckfield Seagull's comments, Ulloa's body language tells me he wants away.[/p][/quote]Don't think he wants away, he wants someone to help him! we have the players but seem to be reluctant to play them for some reason. To baldly go
  • Score: 9

5:03pm Sun 9 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

ringtone wrote:
Two clear bookable offences for Greer, so sending off 100% correct.

Some idiots on here last night were trying to deflect blame by saying Reading players influenced the ref, lol, and the Reading manager has a history of getting his players to intimidate the ref, you cant make this up.

Vegas and Arnie do not have to watch the rubbish the real fans do, they just type offal from their Ivory towers.
a comment written by you worthy of a place in your scrap book, the only place where it will be of any value
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: Two clear bookable offences for Greer, so sending off 100% correct. Some idiots on here last night were trying to deflect blame by saying Reading players influenced the ref, lol, and the Reading manager has a history of getting his players to intimidate the ref, you cant make this up. Vegas and Arnie do not have to watch the rubbish the real fans do, they just type offal from their Ivory towers.[/p][/quote]a comment written by you worthy of a place in your scrap book, the only place where it will be of any value VegasSeagull
  • Score: 7

5:14pm Sun 9 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

To baldly go wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
The decision not to start with one wide player yesterday seems a little bit puzzling but with both Lingard and David both able to get wide, it's not as though we didn't have anyone to pop a few crosses in. We often hear, after the event, why a certain player didn't make the team sheet, a knock that we didn't know about, and that is understandable, but I would love to know what the thinking was re yesterday's line up considering who we had on the bench.

We were at home, we were in a six pointer match, a result was wanted by both sides and Oscar sent out an eleven that he thought could get the points. On Tuesday we will be in the exact same position so do we expect Oscar to send out the same eleven, (Dunk in for Greer), or perhaps I should ask, will Oscar's pre match thinking be the same, we start without a wide player.
If Oscar changes things for the visit of QPR, is that a tacit admission that he got it wrong against Reading or, is he expecting QPR to offer a different challenge than that we faced from Reading. We went 50 minutes with eleven on the park and didn't score, that might suggest that the plan didn't work. It might seem that I am having a pop at Oscar, and for once perhaps I am, but what I am really trying to do is to get some idea of what Oscar's thinking was, what was the expected gain from deciding not to start with one wide player, even if Lingard and David can get wide.

Anyone got any thoughts?
Fear of conceding a goal was Oscars thinking, but we all know attack is the best form of defence, especially at home, when we play 2 wide players with pace we can rip teams apart but we never stick to that game plan.
We have wingers with pace and skill, Buckley, LuaLua, March, Rodney so why not pick even one of them is a strange one, as soon as Buckley came on, even with 10 men we posed a threat. If, as we know they are not 100% fit give them half a game each! looking at the table, only the bottom 6 have scored less than us!
QPR will park the bus and hope to beat us on the break, but if we play a true 4-3-3 we will beat them. They have scored only a few more than us, but have conceded less so they will be hard to breakdown.
If fit team for Tuesday : TK, Bruno, Upson, Dunk, Ward, Ince, Stevens, Orlandi, Lingard, Buckley and Ulloa. Subs, Brez, Caldi, March, Andrews, LuaLua, Rodney, Obika.
Yes, fear of conceding a goal would appear to have been his, (Oscar's) first thought, but if you score two then conceding one isn't an issue. So if fear of conceding a goal in a six pointer is what was behind Oscar's line up, do we expect the same approach against QPR? A cautious approach will see both Andrews and Ince start, leave Andrews out and we can add a extra attacking option. It's a crap shoot either way but a top six spot for us might depend on gambling on scoring rather than not conceding.
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: The decision not to start with one wide player yesterday seems a little bit puzzling but with both Lingard and David both able to get wide, it's not as though we didn't have anyone to pop a few crosses in. We often hear, after the event, why a certain player didn't make the team sheet, a knock that we didn't know about, and that is understandable, but I would love to know what the thinking was re yesterday's line up considering who we had on the bench. We were at home, we were in a six pointer match, a result was wanted by both sides and Oscar sent out an eleven that he thought could get the points. On Tuesday we will be in the exact same position so do we expect Oscar to send out the same eleven, (Dunk in for Greer), or perhaps I should ask, will Oscar's pre match thinking be the same, we start without a wide player. If Oscar changes things for the visit of QPR, is that a tacit admission that he got it wrong against Reading or, is he expecting QPR to offer a different challenge than that we faced from Reading. We went 50 minutes with eleven on the park and didn't score, that might suggest that the plan didn't work. It might seem that I am having a pop at Oscar, and for once perhaps I am, but what I am really trying to do is to get some idea of what Oscar's thinking was, what was the expected gain from deciding not to start with one wide player, even if Lingard and David can get wide. Anyone got any thoughts?[/p][/quote]Fear of conceding a goal was Oscars thinking, but we all know attack is the best form of defence, especially at home, when we play 2 wide players with pace we can rip teams apart but we never stick to that game plan. We have wingers with pace and skill, Buckley, LuaLua, March, Rodney so why not pick even one of them is a strange one, as soon as Buckley came on, even with 10 men we posed a threat. If, as we know they are not 100% fit give them half a game each! looking at the table, only the bottom 6 have scored less than us! QPR will park the bus and hope to beat us on the break, but if we play a true 4-3-3 we will beat them. They have scored only a few more than us, but have conceded less so they will be hard to breakdown. If fit team for Tuesday : TK, Bruno, Upson, Dunk, Ward, Ince, Stevens, Orlandi, Lingard, Buckley and Ulloa. Subs, Brez, Caldi, March, Andrews, LuaLua, Rodney, Obika.[/p][/quote]Yes, fear of conceding a goal would appear to have been his, (Oscar's) first thought, but if you score two then conceding one isn't an issue. So if fear of conceding a goal in a six pointer is what was behind Oscar's line up, do we expect the same approach against QPR? A cautious approach will see both Andrews and Ince start, leave Andrews out and we can add a extra attacking option. It's a crap shoot either way but a top six spot for us might depend on gambling on scoring rather than not conceding. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

5:17pm Sun 9 Mar 14

wiseman of hove says...

Asleep in Dorset wrote:
much as I agree with some of Uckfield Seagull's comments, Ulloa's body language tells me he wants away.
I have been posting the same point for a few weeks but I have to say that yesterday I thought was a tad different. I thought Ulloa was tremendous - a tireless and committed man of the match display. However, I tend to the view that he will depart.
[quote][p][bold]Asleep in Dorset[/bold] wrote: much as I agree with some of Uckfield Seagull's comments, Ulloa's body language tells me he wants away.[/p][/quote]I have been posting the same point for a few weeks but I have to say that yesterday I thought was a tad different. I thought Ulloa was tremendous - a tireless and committed man of the match display. However, I tend to the view that he will depart. wiseman of hove
  • Score: 5

5:20pm Sun 9 Mar 14

jockithenoo says...

The Phantom wrote:
On a separate issue, just watched Burnley come from behind to win 2-1 at Blackburn. Absolutely amazing what Sean Dyche is achieving with a small squad with arguably less ability and less strength in depth than Brightons. Practically the same first X1 playing every game with passion, a positive intent and a will to win - no signs of tiredness so far and still going strong.
How much of his squad has he changed Oh or not had available? ??
Different situation pointless comments.
UTA
[quote][p][bold]The Phantom[/bold] wrote: On a separate issue, just watched Burnley come from behind to win 2-1 at Blackburn. Absolutely amazing what Sean Dyche is achieving with a small squad with arguably less ability and less strength in depth than Brightons. Practically the same first X1 playing every game with passion, a positive intent and a will to win - no signs of tiredness so far and still going strong.[/p][/quote]How much of his squad has he changed Oh or not had available? ?? Different situation pointless comments. UTA jockithenoo
  • Score: 1

5:27pm Sun 9 Mar 14

jockithenoo says...

I'm not surprised he backed the ref. What a poor referee he was bullied by reading to send off greer and gave absolutely no protection to ulloa yet handed almost every decision to reading
Well done nigel you had twelve men on the park !!!!!!!!!!
UTA
I'm not surprised he backed the ref. What a poor referee he was bullied by reading to send off greer and gave absolutely no protection to ulloa yet handed almost every decision to reading Well done nigel you had twelve men on the park !!!!!!!!!! UTA jockithenoo
  • Score: 14

5:40pm Sun 9 Mar 14

seegull fly in sky says...

Noodle odkins e gone oringe e look lyke e pot creoseote on um faice. Ee silley walley.
Noodle odkins e gone oringe e look lyke e pot creoseote on um faice. Ee silley walley. seegull fly in sky
  • Score: 5

5:40pm Sun 9 Mar 14

The Phantom says...

jockithenoo wrote:
The Phantom wrote:
On a separate issue, just watched Burnley come from behind to win 2-1 at Blackburn. Absolutely amazing what Sean Dyche is achieving with a small squad with arguably less ability and less strength in depth than Brightons. Practically the same first X1 playing every game with passion, a positive intent and a will to win - no signs of tiredness so far and still going strong.
How much of his squad has he changed Oh or not had available? ??
Different situation pointless comments.
UTA
My point was to illustrate what can be achieved with some positive intent (i.e. playing purposeful, positive football) and a positive attitude (not keep saying your players are tired). It was acknowledged by Nathan Jones the other day that Burnley were the only club that plays the same team every week - well it looks like it blooming well works!
[quote][p][bold]jockithenoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Phantom[/bold] wrote: On a separate issue, just watched Burnley come from behind to win 2-1 at Blackburn. Absolutely amazing what Sean Dyche is achieving with a small squad with arguably less ability and less strength in depth than Brightons. Practically the same first X1 playing every game with passion, a positive intent and a will to win - no signs of tiredness so far and still going strong.[/p][/quote]How much of his squad has he changed Oh or not had available? ?? Different situation pointless comments. UTA[/p][/quote]My point was to illustrate what can be achieved with some positive intent (i.e. playing purposeful, positive football) and a positive attitude (not keep saying your players are tired). It was acknowledged by Nathan Jones the other day that Burnley were the only club that plays the same team every week - well it looks like it blooming well works! The Phantom
  • Score: 7

5:50pm Sun 9 Mar 14

AlanDuffy says...

Uckfield Seagull wrote:
Was at the game yesterday and to be honest thought the draw was a fair result, TC made a couple of fantastic saves to earn MOM rightly so, the Greer dismissal was one of those, sometimes you get decisions and sometimes you don’t, we got 3 points at Millwall via a fortunate decision and got a point yesterday, without the pen at Millwall we would of only had 2 points out of 6 instead of 4 so no complaints for me, Oscar's reaction is the correct one, let’s look forward and not back.
I have total confidence in Oscar and feel he has done a good job in his first season, I am hoping he has learnt and can use his experience now to have a good end to season and if no success this year, then next season a real push can be made, however a few points from yesterday I feel need to be addressed, firstly we need to build a team around Ulloa, he is our best player, great having 2 forward players up top, but my concern was the lack of width and pace, we need to start getting balls into the box with quality from wide areas, in my opinion there is no point having Buckley on the bench, let’s start him and see how long he can last, if no Buckley then Lua Lua or March simply have to start to provide this width, we looked pretty narrow yesterday, I do feel Oscar is pretty negative, especially at home, cannot rely on 1 nil all the time, and if nil nil after 60 bringing on our impact players to change the game will not always work. Second area of concern is the quality we are bringing into the club, I don’t like to harp on about the Poyet era, but Bridcutt, Lua Lua, Bridge, Ulloa, Orlandi, TC, Bruno, Lopez were all signed by Poyet, so far this year, we have had Obika, Lita, Stephens, Rodriquez, Andrews, Kemy, the difference is quite staggering, as I said before I wonder if it was Jones bringing some of these players in as he seems to have a Yeovil, Charlton connection, I have to be honest I am not the biggest fan of Jones and wonder what he brings to the table. Feel we need somebody a little more respected in the game rather than league 1 level. Very happy though that Oscar likes to give youth a chance, Ince has been the success story of the season by far. Once again I just want to add as a club we are in a great position, we have some of the best fans in the country, we have a youth development system which is the envy of most other clubs, we have a stadium which is frankly one of the best in the world, yes the world, we have a chairman who bleeds blue and white, we will soon have training facilities which will match anything anywhere on offer, and we have people who are running the club within budget and not over spending, we will get to the promised land of the premiership sooner or later and the satisfaction will be doing it within the rules and by running the club properly, we are very lucky to be supporting such a wonderful asset to Sussex By The Sea
One of the most thoughtful and sensible posts I've read on here in a long time.....and let's not forget that aswell as some below par performances we comfortably beat the runaway leaders here, took 4 points from the second placed side and outplayed Wigan at home, despite the result, and I see they currently lead Man City in the cup, so we're not such a bad side.
[quote][p][bold]Uckfield Seagull[/bold] wrote: Was at the game yesterday and to be honest thought the draw was a fair result, TC made a couple of fantastic saves to earn MOM rightly so, the Greer dismissal was one of those, sometimes you get decisions and sometimes you don’t, we got 3 points at Millwall via a fortunate decision and got a point yesterday, without the pen at Millwall we would of only had 2 points out of 6 instead of 4 so no complaints for me, Oscar's reaction is the correct one, let’s look forward and not back. I have total confidence in Oscar and feel he has done a good job in his first season, I am hoping he has learnt and can use his experience now to have a good end to season and if no success this year, then next season a real push can be made, however a few points from yesterday I feel need to be addressed, firstly we need to build a team around Ulloa, he is our best player, great having 2 forward players up top, but my concern was the lack of width and pace, we need to start getting balls into the box with quality from wide areas, in my opinion there is no point having Buckley on the bench, let’s start him and see how long he can last, if no Buckley then Lua Lua or March simply have to start to provide this width, we looked pretty narrow yesterday, I do feel Oscar is pretty negative, especially at home, cannot rely on 1 nil all the time, and if nil nil after 60 bringing on our impact players to change the game will not always work. Second area of concern is the quality we are bringing into the club, I don’t like to harp on about the Poyet era, but Bridcutt, Lua Lua, Bridge, Ulloa, Orlandi, TC, Bruno, Lopez were all signed by Poyet, so far this year, we have had Obika, Lita, Stephens, Rodriquez, Andrews, Kemy, the difference is quite staggering, as I said before I wonder if it was Jones bringing some of these players in as he seems to have a Yeovil, Charlton connection, I have to be honest I am not the biggest fan of Jones and wonder what he brings to the table. Feel we need somebody a little more respected in the game rather than league 1 level. Very happy though that Oscar likes to give youth a chance, Ince has been the success story of the season by far. Once again I just want to add as a club we are in a great position, we have some of the best fans in the country, we have a youth development system which is the envy of most other clubs, we have a stadium which is frankly one of the best in the world, yes the world, we have a chairman who bleeds blue and white, we will soon have training facilities which will match anything anywhere on offer, and we have people who are running the club within budget and not over spending, we will get to the promised land of the premiership sooner or later and the satisfaction will be doing it within the rules and by running the club properly, we are very lucky to be supporting such a wonderful asset to Sussex By The Sea[/p][/quote]One of the most thoughtful and sensible posts I've read on here in a long time.....and let's not forget that aswell as some below par performances we comfortably beat the runaway leaders here, took 4 points from the second placed side and outplayed Wigan at home, despite the result, and I see they currently lead Man City in the cup, so we're not such a bad side. AlanDuffy
  • Score: 5

5:56pm Sun 9 Mar 14

wiseman of hove says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
The decision not to start with one wide player yesterday seems a little bit puzzling but with both Lingard and David both able to get wide, it's not as though we didn't have anyone to pop a few crosses in. We often hear, after the event, why a certain player didn't make the team sheet, a knock that we didn't know about, and that is understandable, but I would love to know what the thinking was re yesterday's line up considering who we had on the bench.

We were at home, we were in a six pointer match, a result was wanted by both sides and Oscar sent out an eleven that he thought could get the points. On Tuesday we will be in the exact same position so do we expect Oscar to send out the same eleven, (Dunk in for Greer), or perhaps I should ask, will Oscar's pre match thinking be the same, we start without a wide player.
If Oscar changes things for the visit of QPR, is that a tacit admission that he got it wrong against Reading or, is he expecting QPR to offer a different challenge than that we faced from Reading. We went 50 minutes with eleven on the park and didn't score, that might suggest that the plan didn't work. It might seem that I am having a pop at Oscar, and for once perhaps I am, but what I am really trying to do is to get some idea of what Oscar's thinking was, what was the expected gain from deciding not to start with one wide player, even if Lingard and David can get wide.

Anyone got any thoughts?
I'm afraid that where we sit Vegas, there are almost audible groans when the team is announced, with no bona fide wide player having been selected to start. David and probably Lingard are not the wide solutions. If one of Buckley March or LuaLua do not start on Tuesday, then only three points will keep supporters happy. At the risk of thumb downs, I have to say that there are now mutterings amongst supporters at aspects of team selection and set up.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: The decision not to start with one wide player yesterday seems a little bit puzzling but with both Lingard and David both able to get wide, it's not as though we didn't have anyone to pop a few crosses in. We often hear, after the event, why a certain player didn't make the team sheet, a knock that we didn't know about, and that is understandable, but I would love to know what the thinking was re yesterday's line up considering who we had on the bench. We were at home, we were in a six pointer match, a result was wanted by both sides and Oscar sent out an eleven that he thought could get the points. On Tuesday we will be in the exact same position so do we expect Oscar to send out the same eleven, (Dunk in for Greer), or perhaps I should ask, will Oscar's pre match thinking be the same, we start without a wide player. If Oscar changes things for the visit of QPR, is that a tacit admission that he got it wrong against Reading or, is he expecting QPR to offer a different challenge than that we faced from Reading. We went 50 minutes with eleven on the park and didn't score, that might suggest that the plan didn't work. It might seem that I am having a pop at Oscar, and for once perhaps I am, but what I am really trying to do is to get some idea of what Oscar's thinking was, what was the expected gain from deciding not to start with one wide player, even if Lingard and David can get wide. Anyone got any thoughts?[/p][/quote]I'm afraid that where we sit Vegas, there are almost audible groans when the team is announced, with no bona fide wide player having been selected to start. David and probably Lingard are not the wide solutions. If one of Buckley March or LuaLua do not start on Tuesday, then only three points will keep supporters happy. At the risk of thumb downs, I have to say that there are now mutterings amongst supporters at aspects of team selection and set up. wiseman of hove
  • Score: 6

6:21pm Sun 9 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

Wiseman, To Baldly Go suggest that Oscar is selecting him team on the basis of not conceding, and to be fair we do have a very good defensive record, but maybe the problem is that our defensive record is, 'too good.' Back four plus Andrews, plus Ince and of course TK and that's seven of eleven. Now I know some will say, well Andrews and Ince can get forward, but are they. I could be totally wrong but judging by what those that are at the game have been saying, the driving force from midfield evaporated when we lost Crofts. There were few occasions, if any, when Crofts played that we didn't have a wide player on the park, the loan deal of Jesse looked as though we had the option of using him in the Crofts role so where is the wide player. I am aware that Stephens was signed as a Crofts replacement but Lingard, looking at his history, looks to be a better option.

I am still excited about having Oscar as our head coach but to be perfectly honest, my excitement is more about how he builds the squad for next season rather than what is occurring in the final stages of this one. A top six spot, yep still a chance but promotion, well they say that if you have a chip and a chair you still have a chance to win a poker tournee, right now I think that's what we have, a chip and a chair.
Wiseman, To Baldly Go suggest that Oscar is selecting him team on the basis of not conceding, and to be fair we do have a very good defensive record, but maybe the problem is that our defensive record is, 'too good.' Back four plus Andrews, plus Ince and of course TK and that's seven of eleven. Now I know some will say, well Andrews and Ince can get forward, but are they. I could be totally wrong but judging by what those that are at the game have been saying, the driving force from midfield evaporated when we lost Crofts. There were few occasions, if any, when Crofts played that we didn't have a wide player on the park, the loan deal of Jesse looked as though we had the option of using him in the Crofts role so where is the wide player. I am aware that Stephens was signed as a Crofts replacement but Lingard, looking at his history, looks to be a better option. I am still excited about having Oscar as our head coach but to be perfectly honest, my excitement is more about how he builds the squad for next season rather than what is occurring in the final stages of this one. A top six spot, yep still a chance but promotion, well they say that if you have a chip and a chair you still have a chance to win a poker tournee, right now I think that's what we have, a chip and a chair. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

6:42pm Sun 9 Mar 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Wiseman, To Baldly Go suggest that Oscar is selecting him team on the basis of not conceding, and to be fair we do have a very good defensive record, but maybe the problem is that our defensive record is, 'too good.' Back four plus Andrews, plus Ince and of course TK and that's seven of eleven. Now I know some will say, well Andrews and Ince can get forward, but are they. I could be totally wrong but judging by what those that are at the game have been saying, the driving force from midfield evaporated when we lost Crofts. There were few occasions, if any, when Crofts played that we didn't have a wide player on the park, the loan deal of Jesse looked as though we had the option of using him in the Crofts role so where is the wide player. I am aware that Stephens was signed as a Crofts replacement but Lingard, looking at his history, looks to be a better option.

I am still excited about having Oscar as our head coach but to be perfectly honest, my excitement is more about how he builds the squad for next season rather than what is occurring in the final stages of this one. A top six spot, yep still a chance but promotion, well they say that if you have a chip and a chair you still have a chance to win a poker tournee, right now I think that's what we have, a chip and a chair.
What worries me is the players he brings! Andrews , kemy obika rodders , none worth a place in Gus side
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Wiseman, To Baldly Go suggest that Oscar is selecting him team on the basis of not conceding, and to be fair we do have a very good defensive record, but maybe the problem is that our defensive record is, 'too good.' Back four plus Andrews, plus Ince and of course TK and that's seven of eleven. Now I know some will say, well Andrews and Ince can get forward, but are they. I could be totally wrong but judging by what those that are at the game have been saying, the driving force from midfield evaporated when we lost Crofts. There were few occasions, if any, when Crofts played that we didn't have a wide player on the park, the loan deal of Jesse looked as though we had the option of using him in the Crofts role so where is the wide player. I am aware that Stephens was signed as a Crofts replacement but Lingard, looking at his history, looks to be a better option. I am still excited about having Oscar as our head coach but to be perfectly honest, my excitement is more about how he builds the squad for next season rather than what is occurring in the final stages of this one. A top six spot, yep still a chance but promotion, well they say that if you have a chip and a chair you still have a chance to win a poker tournee, right now I think that's what we have, a chip and a chair.[/p][/quote]What worries me is the players he brings! Andrews , kemy obika rodders , none worth a place in Gus side mark by the sea
  • Score: 1

6:43pm Sun 9 Mar 14

To baldly go says...

wiseman of hove wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
The decision not to start with one wide player yesterday seems a little bit puzzling but with both Lingard and David both able to get wide, it's not as though we didn't have anyone to pop a few crosses in. We often hear, after the event, why a certain player didn't make the team sheet, a knock that we didn't know about, and that is understandable, but I would love to know what the thinking was re yesterday's line up considering who we had on the bench.

We were at home, we were in a six pointer match, a result was wanted by both sides and Oscar sent out an eleven that he thought could get the points. On Tuesday we will be in the exact same position so do we expect Oscar to send out the same eleven, (Dunk in for Greer), or perhaps I should ask, will Oscar's pre match thinking be the same, we start without a wide player.
If Oscar changes things for the visit of QPR, is that a tacit admission that he got it wrong against Reading or, is he expecting QPR to offer a different challenge than that we faced from Reading. We went 50 minutes with eleven on the park and didn't score, that might suggest that the plan didn't work. It might seem that I am having a pop at Oscar, and for once perhaps I am, but what I am really trying to do is to get some idea of what Oscar's thinking was, what was the expected gain from deciding not to start with one wide player, even if Lingard and David can get wide.

Anyone got any thoughts?
I'm afraid that where we sit Vegas, there are almost audible groans when the team is announced, with no bona fide wide player having been selected to start. David and probably Lingard are not the wide solutions. If one of Buckley March or LuaLua do not start on Tuesday, then only three points will keep supporters happy. At the risk of thumb downs, I have to say that there are now mutterings amongst supporters at aspects of team selection and set up.
Agree, I sit in the north stand and as soon as we see Andrews or Lopez on the team sheet people gasp in astonishment that they have been picked yet again, Lopez is not the player he was last year and Andrews just runs about not knowing what he's doing, yes we have had injury after injury but there are better options sat on the bench other than these 2. Jfc seems to have stalled in his development and to have these 3 in midfield at the moment is not working.
QPR play a similar way to us, not concede and try to hit on the break, knowing this, I hope Oscar plays a fast attacking side that keeps them penned into their own half and for gods sake we must score than once for a change. All those around us lost Saturday and a win Tuesday could see us into 6th place just a couple of points behind 5th, top 4 I think are out of reach, Forest and Reading are stuttering and I think will drop away leaving us and Wigan to take the other 2 spots.
We have not had a good run all season where we score a few goals and this needs to change or we could lose out on goal difference come end of season, last game is at Forest, we might need to beat them by 3 or 4 goals to nick 6th place and I cannot see us doing that at the moment.
[quote][p][bold]wiseman of hove[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: The decision not to start with one wide player yesterday seems a little bit puzzling but with both Lingard and David both able to get wide, it's not as though we didn't have anyone to pop a few crosses in. We often hear, after the event, why a certain player didn't make the team sheet, a knock that we didn't know about, and that is understandable, but I would love to know what the thinking was re yesterday's line up considering who we had on the bench. We were at home, we were in a six pointer match, a result was wanted by both sides and Oscar sent out an eleven that he thought could get the points. On Tuesday we will be in the exact same position so do we expect Oscar to send out the same eleven, (Dunk in for Greer), or perhaps I should ask, will Oscar's pre match thinking be the same, we start without a wide player. If Oscar changes things for the visit of QPR, is that a tacit admission that he got it wrong against Reading or, is he expecting QPR to offer a different challenge than that we faced from Reading. We went 50 minutes with eleven on the park and didn't score, that might suggest that the plan didn't work. It might seem that I am having a pop at Oscar, and for once perhaps I am, but what I am really trying to do is to get some idea of what Oscar's thinking was, what was the expected gain from deciding not to start with one wide player, even if Lingard and David can get wide. Anyone got any thoughts?[/p][/quote]I'm afraid that where we sit Vegas, there are almost audible groans when the team is announced, with no bona fide wide player having been selected to start. David and probably Lingard are not the wide solutions. If one of Buckley March or LuaLua do not start on Tuesday, then only three points will keep supporters happy. At the risk of thumb downs, I have to say that there are now mutterings amongst supporters at aspects of team selection and set up.[/p][/quote]Agree, I sit in the north stand and as soon as we see Andrews or Lopez on the team sheet people gasp in astonishment that they have been picked yet again, Lopez is not the player he was last year and Andrews just runs about not knowing what he's doing, yes we have had injury after injury but there are better options sat on the bench other than these 2. Jfc seems to have stalled in his development and to have these 3 in midfield at the moment is not working. QPR play a similar way to us, not concede and try to hit on the break, knowing this, I hope Oscar plays a fast attacking side that keeps them penned into their own half and for gods sake we must score than once for a change. All those around us lost Saturday and a win Tuesday could see us into 6th place just a couple of points behind 5th, top 4 I think are out of reach, Forest and Reading are stuttering and I think will drop away leaving us and Wigan to take the other 2 spots. We have not had a good run all season where we score a few goals and this needs to change or we could lose out on goal difference come end of season, last game is at Forest, we might need to beat them by 3 or 4 goals to nick 6th place and I cannot see us doing that at the moment. To baldly go
  • Score: 6

6:48pm Sun 9 Mar 14

gordongull says...

There is little point in trying to be Barcelona 'lite' when we clearly do not have players available with the flair and creativity to turn all the possession into attack, in order to win games. The endless passing (on the days when we can string them together), is being used primarily as a way not to lose.
That should guarantee 13 points from the remaining 13 games, which is exactly what we picked up from a similar position the season before last.
Does anyone see signs that we can improve on that statistic this time around, if we continue as we are?
If the answer is no, is that acceptable because we have a new stadium and training facilities, a fantastic owner, and are well on the way to balancing the book?
These are the reasons put forward by some contributors on this forum to excuse mediocrity, and to dismiss any constructive criticism of the players and coaching staff. (The manager made some bizarre decisions, but it's ok because we have a new stadium....etc......
).
But even one or two of the supreme optimists are beginning to waver, and show a little concern. That is because there is a dawning realisation that the system has been taken to it's tedious and directionless extreme.
There is also the realisation that under Oscar Garcia, nothing is going to change.
There is little point in trying to be Barcelona 'lite' when we clearly do not have players available with the flair and creativity to turn all the possession into attack, in order to win games. The endless passing (on the days when we can string them together), is being used primarily as a way not to lose. That should guarantee 13 points from the remaining 13 games, which is exactly what we picked up from a similar position the season before last. Does anyone see signs that we can improve on that statistic this time around, if we continue as we are? If the answer is no, is that acceptable because we have a new stadium and training facilities, a fantastic owner, and are well on the way to balancing the book? These are the reasons put forward by some contributors on this forum to excuse mediocrity, and to dismiss any constructive criticism of the players and coaching staff. (The manager made some bizarre decisions, but it's ok because we have a new stadium....etc...... ). But even one or two of the supreme optimists are beginning to waver, and show a little concern. That is because there is a dawning realisation that the system has been taken to it's tedious and directionless extreme. There is also the realisation that under Oscar Garcia, nothing is going to change. gordongull
  • Score: 4

7:24pm Sun 9 Mar 14

wiseman of hove says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Wiseman, To Baldly Go suggest that Oscar is selecting him team on the basis of not conceding, and to be fair we do have a very good defensive record, but maybe the problem is that our defensive record is, 'too good.' Back four plus Andrews, plus Ince and of course TK and that's seven of eleven. Now I know some will say, well Andrews and Ince can get forward, but are they. I could be totally wrong but judging by what those that are at the game have been saying, the driving force from midfield evaporated when we lost Crofts. There were few occasions, if any, when Crofts played that we didn't have a wide player on the park, the loan deal of Jesse looked as though we had the option of using him in the Crofts role so where is the wide player. I am aware that Stephens was signed as a Crofts replacement but Lingard, looking at his history, looks to be a better option.

I am still excited about having Oscar as our head coach but to be perfectly honest, my excitement is more about how he builds the squad for next season rather than what is occurring in the final stages of this one. A top six spot, yep still a chance but promotion, well they say that if you have a chip and a chair you still have a chance to win a poker tournee, right now I think that's what we have, a chip and a chair.
I think my excitement with Oscar has to some extent dissipated. I Iike the way he conducts himself. On the face of it, his coaching credentials are impeccable. However, I am not convinced by listening to, or reading Jones' comments etc. Perhaps other posters can clarify but I doubt that he was an Oscar appointment, and the pairing does not convince me.
Digressing,where Oscar has been desperately unlucky, is the loss of Crofts - indeed the driving force - and the on-going injury problems with Buckley and now Orlandi. I have no doubts myself that Stephens is going to be an excellent acquisition but even he has had a punctuated start being cup- tied and injured.
I think it is fair to say that the jury is out on Oscar. There is a fund of good will with the legacy of the Poyet saga and injury problems but I detect growing frustration with team selection as I have expressed above.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Wiseman, To Baldly Go suggest that Oscar is selecting him team on the basis of not conceding, and to be fair we do have a very good defensive record, but maybe the problem is that our defensive record is, 'too good.' Back four plus Andrews, plus Ince and of course TK and that's seven of eleven. Now I know some will say, well Andrews and Ince can get forward, but are they. I could be totally wrong but judging by what those that are at the game have been saying, the driving force from midfield evaporated when we lost Crofts. There were few occasions, if any, when Crofts played that we didn't have a wide player on the park, the loan deal of Jesse looked as though we had the option of using him in the Crofts role so where is the wide player. I am aware that Stephens was signed as a Crofts replacement but Lingard, looking at his history, looks to be a better option. I am still excited about having Oscar as our head coach but to be perfectly honest, my excitement is more about how he builds the squad for next season rather than what is occurring in the final stages of this one. A top six spot, yep still a chance but promotion, well they say that if you have a chip and a chair you still have a chance to win a poker tournee, right now I think that's what we have, a chip and a chair.[/p][/quote]I think my excitement with Oscar has to some extent dissipated. I Iike the way he conducts himself. On the face of it, his coaching credentials are impeccable. However, I am not convinced by listening to, or reading Jones' comments etc. Perhaps other posters can clarify but I doubt that he was an Oscar appointment, and the pairing does not convince me. Digressing,where Oscar has been desperately unlucky, is the loss of Crofts - indeed the driving force - and the on-going injury problems with Buckley and now Orlandi. I have no doubts myself that Stephens is going to be an excellent acquisition but even he has had a punctuated start being cup- tied and injured. I think it is fair to say that the jury is out on Oscar. There is a fund of good will with the legacy of the Poyet saga and injury problems but I detect growing frustration with team selection as I have expressed above. wiseman of hove
  • Score: 6

8:07pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Vince says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
The decision not to start with one wide player yesterday seems a little bit puzzling but with both Lingard and David both able to get wide, it's not as though we didn't have anyone to pop a few crosses in. We often hear, after the event, why a certain player didn't make the team sheet, a knock that we didn't know about, and that is understandable, but I would love to know what the thinking was re yesterday's line up considering who we had on the bench. We were at home, we were in a six pointer match, a result was wanted by both sides and Oscar sent out an eleven that he thought could get the points. On Tuesday we will be in the exact same position so do we expect Oscar to send out the same eleven, (Dunk in for Greer), or perhaps I should ask, will Oscar's pre match thinking be the same, we start without a wide player. If Oscar changes things for the visit of QPR, is that a tacit admission that he got it wrong against Reading or, is he expecting QPR to offer a different challenge than that we faced from Reading. We went 50 minutes with eleven on the park and didn't score, that might suggest that the plan didn't work. It might seem that I am having a pop at Oscar, and for once perhaps I am, but what I am really trying to do is to get some idea of what Oscar's thinking was, what was the expected gain from deciding not to start with one wide player, even if Lingard and David can get wide. Anyone got any thoughts?
Vegas,

My companions and I remarked before play started when the teams were announced that the subs bench was much stronger than many of the starting 11 (e.g. Andrews, Forster Caskey and Lopez). When Buckley and March came on for the latter two players, we absolutely murdered their defence, and at last looked a potent attacking force - even with 10 men (AND at a time when Reading had the massive boost of seeing us go down to 10 men which put a spring in their heels and which saw them immediately go flat out for a victory). And Ulloa now started to get interested when he at last had some proper support.

It baffles me and many Albion supporters that Oscar continues to leave our game-changing players on the bench and is content to see us play the negative, containing game in the first half of most of our home games.

Once we went 1-0 up (rather fortuitously) Reading were there for the taking. Oscar should have gone for the jugular at that point by bringing on Buckley (who was running up and down the touchline - clearly wanting to get in on the action) - Brighton had no attacking width in the first half - and Solly March on the left flank to really stretch them. Reading would not have come back from 2-0 down - and we may have ended up scoring 4.

It baffles me that Oscar lacks that "killer" instinct to really capitalise on our home games - by getting on top from the outset - rather than allowing games to drift on in the same boring sideways, backwards passing movements - often handing the initiative to the away teams to push higher up the field and press us. Barnsley were a prime example of this - and got their only away win of the season against us.

Against Reading in the first half - we seemed to have no attacking fluency or plan. It was really awful. Andrews, Lopez, Ward and Greer and even our new forward Lindegard gave the ball away far too easily in the first half and we were lucky to be leading 1-0 at half time. That we were ahead was due to some good defensive work by our back 4 and some dreadful finishing by Reading as well as the own-goal.

I'm afraid if we don't make the play-offs this season - it will IMHO be largely down to Oscar and his negative tactics. When he did play an attacking line-up from the start - like against Wigan - we absolutely murdered them - and it was an absolute travesty that they scored one fluke and another from a corner when Brighton ran them ragged getting 20 shots on target to their 2. Wigan were ecstatic to beat us, and their manager said how lucky they were to keep us out. Wigan have just beaten Man-city to reach the semi-finals - where Albion should be if Oscar had played our strongest team against Hull - with a home quarter final v Sunderland in prospect (who looked very ordinary today) - and a semi-final against Sheffield-United and a great chance of meeting Wigan or Arsenal at Wembley in the final. The revenue that this would have brought in would have matched the money we got for Bridcutt.

TO SUMMARISE:- I FEEL SO FRUSTRATED .BY THE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES CAUSED BY OSCARS TACTICS I COULD CRY!!!!!

WHEN WILL WE EVER GET A BETTER CHANCE TO GET TO ANOTHER WEMBLEY FINAL THAN THIS YEAR????? PROBABLY NOT IN MY LIFETIME. I REALLY FEEL LIKE PACKING IN MY SUPPORT OF THE ALBION - AT SUCH NEGATIVITY AND CAUTION.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: The decision not to start with one wide player yesterday seems a little bit puzzling but with both Lingard and David both able to get wide, it's not as though we didn't have anyone to pop a few crosses in. We often hear, after the event, why a certain player didn't make the team sheet, a knock that we didn't know about, and that is understandable, but I would love to know what the thinking was re yesterday's line up considering who we had on the bench. We were at home, we were in a six pointer match, a result was wanted by both sides and Oscar sent out an eleven that he thought could get the points. On Tuesday we will be in the exact same position so do we expect Oscar to send out the same eleven, (Dunk in for Greer), or perhaps I should ask, will Oscar's pre match thinking be the same, we start without a wide player. If Oscar changes things for the visit of QPR, is that a tacit admission that he got it wrong against Reading or, is he expecting QPR to offer a different challenge than that we faced from Reading. We went 50 minutes with eleven on the park and didn't score, that might suggest that the plan didn't work. It might seem that I am having a pop at Oscar, and for once perhaps I am, but what I am really trying to do is to get some idea of what Oscar's thinking was, what was the expected gain from deciding not to start with one wide player, even if Lingard and David can get wide. Anyone got any thoughts?[/p][/quote]Vegas, My companions and I remarked before play started when the teams were announced that the subs bench was much stronger than many of the starting 11 (e.g. Andrews, Forster Caskey and Lopez). When Buckley and March came on for the latter two players, we absolutely murdered their defence, and at last looked a potent attacking force - even with 10 men (AND at a time when Reading had the massive boost of seeing us go down to 10 men which put a spring in their heels and which saw them immediately go flat out for a victory). And Ulloa now started to get interested when he at last had some proper support. It baffles me and many Albion supporters that Oscar continues to leave our game-changing players on the bench and is content to see us play the negative, containing game in the first half of most of our home games. Once we went 1-0 up (rather fortuitously) Reading were there for the taking. Oscar should have gone for the jugular at that point by bringing on Buckley (who was running up and down the touchline - clearly wanting to get in on the action) - Brighton had no attacking width in the first half - and Solly March on the left flank to really stretch them. Reading would not have come back from 2-0 down - and we may have ended up scoring 4. It baffles me that Oscar lacks that "killer" instinct to really capitalise on our home games - by getting on top from the outset - rather than allowing games to drift on in the same boring sideways, backwards passing movements - often handing the initiative to the away teams to push higher up the field and press us. Barnsley were a prime example of this - and got their only away win of the season against us. Against Reading in the first half - we seemed to have no attacking fluency or plan. It was really awful. Andrews, Lopez, Ward and Greer and even our new forward Lindegard gave the ball away far too easily in the first half and we were lucky to be leading 1-0 at half time. That we were ahead was due to some good defensive work by our back 4 and some dreadful finishing by Reading as well as the own-goal. I'm afraid if we don't make the play-offs this season - it will IMHO be largely down to Oscar and his negative tactics. When he did play an attacking line-up from the start - like against Wigan - we absolutely murdered them - and it was an absolute travesty that they scored one fluke and another from a corner when Brighton ran them ragged getting 20 shots on target to their 2. Wigan were ecstatic to beat us, and their manager said how lucky they were to keep us out. Wigan have just beaten Man-city to reach the semi-finals - where Albion should be if Oscar had played our strongest team against Hull - with a home quarter final v Sunderland in prospect (who looked very ordinary today) - and a semi-final against Sheffield-United and a great chance of meeting Wigan or Arsenal at Wembley in the final. The revenue that this would have brought in would have matched the money we got for Bridcutt. TO SUMMARISE:- I FEEL SO FRUSTRATED .BY THE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES CAUSED BY OSCARS TACTICS I COULD CRY!!!!! WHEN WILL WE EVER GET A BETTER CHANCE TO GET TO ANOTHER WEMBLEY FINAL THAN THIS YEAR????? PROBABLY NOT IN MY LIFETIME. I REALLY FEEL LIKE PACKING IN MY SUPPORT OF THE ALBION - AT SUCH NEGATIVITY AND CAUTION. Vince
  • Score: 6

8:16pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Quiterie says...

Gee Jay wrote:
Uckfield Seagull wrote:
Was at the game yesterday and to be honest thought the draw was a fair result, TC made a couple of fantastic saves to earn MOM rightly so, the Greer dismissal was one of those, sometimes you get decisions and sometimes you don’t, we got 3 points at Millwall via a fortunate decision and got a point yesterday, without the pen at Millwall we would of only had 2 points out of 6 instead of 4 so no complaints for me, Oscar's reaction is the correct one, let’s look forward and not back. I have total confidence in Oscar and feel he has done a good job in his first season, I am hoping he has learnt and can use his experience now to have a good end to season and if no success this year, then next season a real push can be made, however a few points from yesterday I feel need to be addressed, firstly we need to build a team around Ulloa, he is our best player, great having 2 forward players up top, but my concern was the lack of width and pace, we need to start getting balls into the box with quality from wide areas, in my opinion there is no point having Buckley on the bench, let’s start him and see how long he can last, if no Buckley then Lua Lua or March simply have to start to provide this width, we looked pretty narrow yesterday, I do feel Oscar is pretty negative, especially at home, cannot rely on 1 nil all the time, and if nil nil after 60 bringing on our impact players to change the game will not always work. Second area of concern is the quality we are bringing into the club, I don’t like to harp on about the Poyet era, but Bridcutt, Lua Lua, Bridge, Ulloa, Orlandi, TC, Bruno, Lopez were all signed by Poyet, so far this year, we have had Obika, Lita, Stephens, Rodriquez, Andrews, Kemy, the difference is quite staggering, as I said before I wonder if it was Jones bringing some of these players in as he seems to have a Yeovil, Charlton connection, I have to be honest I am not the biggest fan of Jones and wonder what he brings to the table. Feel we need somebody a little more respected in the game rather than league 1 level. Very happy though that Oscar likes to give youth a chance, Ince has been the success story of the season by far. Once again I just want to add as a club we are in a great position, we have some of the best fans in the country, we have a youth development system which is the envy of most other clubs, we have a stadium which is frankly one of the best in the world, yes the world, we have a chairman who bleeds blue and white, we will soon have training facilities which will match anything anywhere on offer, and we have people who are running the club within budget and not over spending, we will get to the promised land of the premiership sooner or later and the satisfaction will be doing it within the rules and by running the club properly, we are very lucky to be supporting such a wonderful asset to Sussex By The Sea
I am 100% in agreement, there is nothing to add!
Agree. Nothing to add. Except some paragraphs perhaps.
[quote][p][bold]Gee Jay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uckfield Seagull[/bold] wrote: Was at the game yesterday and to be honest thought the draw was a fair result, TC made a couple of fantastic saves to earn MOM rightly so, the Greer dismissal was one of those, sometimes you get decisions and sometimes you don’t, we got 3 points at Millwall via a fortunate decision and got a point yesterday, without the pen at Millwall we would of only had 2 points out of 6 instead of 4 so no complaints for me, Oscar's reaction is the correct one, let’s look forward and not back. I have total confidence in Oscar and feel he has done a good job in his first season, I am hoping he has learnt and can use his experience now to have a good end to season and if no success this year, then next season a real push can be made, however a few points from yesterday I feel need to be addressed, firstly we need to build a team around Ulloa, he is our best player, great having 2 forward players up top, but my concern was the lack of width and pace, we need to start getting balls into the box with quality from wide areas, in my opinion there is no point having Buckley on the bench, let’s start him and see how long he can last, if no Buckley then Lua Lua or March simply have to start to provide this width, we looked pretty narrow yesterday, I do feel Oscar is pretty negative, especially at home, cannot rely on 1 nil all the time, and if nil nil after 60 bringing on our impact players to change the game will not always work. Second area of concern is the quality we are bringing into the club, I don’t like to harp on about the Poyet era, but Bridcutt, Lua Lua, Bridge, Ulloa, Orlandi, TC, Bruno, Lopez were all signed by Poyet, so far this year, we have had Obika, Lita, Stephens, Rodriquez, Andrews, Kemy, the difference is quite staggering, as I said before I wonder if it was Jones bringing some of these players in as he seems to have a Yeovil, Charlton connection, I have to be honest I am not the biggest fan of Jones and wonder what he brings to the table. Feel we need somebody a little more respected in the game rather than league 1 level. Very happy though that Oscar likes to give youth a chance, Ince has been the success story of the season by far. Once again I just want to add as a club we are in a great position, we have some of the best fans in the country, we have a youth development system which is the envy of most other clubs, we have a stadium which is frankly one of the best in the world, yes the world, we have a chairman who bleeds blue and white, we will soon have training facilities which will match anything anywhere on offer, and we have people who are running the club within budget and not over spending, we will get to the promised land of the premiership sooner or later and the satisfaction will be doing it within the rules and by running the club properly, we are very lucky to be supporting such a wonderful asset to Sussex By The Sea[/p][/quote]I am 100% in agreement, there is nothing to add![/p][/quote]Agree. Nothing to add. Except some paragraphs perhaps. Quiterie
  • Score: 1

8:35pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Vince says...

Uckfield Seagull wrote:
Was at the game yesterday and to be honest thought the draw was a fair result, TC made a couple of fantastic saves to earn MOM rightly so, the Greer dismissal was one of those, sometimes you get decisions and sometimes you don’t, we got 3 points at Millwall via a fortunate decision and got a point yesterday, without the pen at Millwall we would of only had 2 points out of 6 instead of 4 so no complaints for me, Oscar's reaction is the correct one, let’s look forward and not back. I have total confidence in Oscar and feel he has done a good job in his first season, I am hoping he has learnt and can use his experience now to have a good end to season and if no success this year, then next season a real push can be made, however a few points from yesterday I feel need to be addressed, firstly we need to build a team around Ulloa, he is our best player, great having 2 forward players up top, but my concern was the lack of width and pace, we need to start getting balls into the box with quality from wide areas, in my opinion there is no point having Buckley on the bench, let’s start him and see how long he can last, if no Buckley then Lua Lua or March simply have to start to provide this width, we looked pretty narrow yesterday, I do feel Oscar is pretty negative, especially at home, cannot rely on 1 nil all the time, and if nil nil after 60 bringing on our impact players to change the game will not always work. Second area of concern is the quality we are bringing into the club, I don’t like to harp on about the Poyet era, but Bridcutt, Lua Lua, Bridge, Ulloa, Orlandi, TC, Bruno, Lopez were all signed by Poyet, so far this year, we have had Obika, Lita, Stephens, Rodriquez, Andrews, Kemy, the difference is quite staggering, as I said before I wonder if it was Jones bringing some of these players in as he seems to have a Yeovil, Charlton connection, I have to be honest I am not the biggest fan of Jones and wonder what he brings to the table. Feel we need somebody a little more respected in the game rather than league 1 level. Very happy though that Oscar likes to give youth a chance, Ince has been the success story of the season by far. Once again I just want to add as a club we are in a great position, we have some of the best fans in the country, we have a youth development system which is the envy of most other clubs, we have a stadium which is frankly one of the best in the world, yes the world, we have a chairman who bleeds blue and white, we will soon have training facilities which will match anything anywhere on offer, and we have people who are running the club within budget and not over spending, we will get to the promised land of the premiership sooner or later and the satisfaction will be doing it within the rules and by running the club properly, we are very lucky to be supporting such a wonderful asset to Sussex By The Sea
Totally agree with everything you say.

Jones has to go.
Oscar has to modify his obsession with Barcelona's formation. Does he watch the matches where other Championship teams reguarly score 3 goals or more? Does he ever see those games in which other teams increase their chances of scoring goals by getting 4 or 5 players in the box, and having at least 2 players just outside the box to pick up the pieces or to have the chance of a shot from a headed clearance, and by stretching teams down the flanks?

Brighton have the best squad in the division, possible second only to Leicester who we beat 3-1 in one of our best all-round displays of the season. No sweat, we should walk into the play-offs this season. Anything less will be a massive under-achievement.

Lets play with 2 wide men from the start - Will and Solly. Orlandi, Ince and Stephens pulling the strings in mid-field. Ulloa will become an even better player and Lindegard will thrive - and we will THRASH the opposition.

Leave Lopez, Andrews, Forster-Caskey out and..... GO FOR IT OSCAR!!!!!

PLEASE OSCAR - CHEER US ALL UP FOR A CHANGE!!!!
PLEEEEEEASE!
[quote][p][bold]Uckfield Seagull[/bold] wrote: Was at the game yesterday and to be honest thought the draw was a fair result, TC made a couple of fantastic saves to earn MOM rightly so, the Greer dismissal was one of those, sometimes you get decisions and sometimes you don’t, we got 3 points at Millwall via a fortunate decision and got a point yesterday, without the pen at Millwall we would of only had 2 points out of 6 instead of 4 so no complaints for me, Oscar's reaction is the correct one, let’s look forward and not back. I have total confidence in Oscar and feel he has done a good job in his first season, I am hoping he has learnt and can use his experience now to have a good end to season and if no success this year, then next season a real push can be made, however a few points from yesterday I feel need to be addressed, firstly we need to build a team around Ulloa, he is our best player, great having 2 forward players up top, but my concern was the lack of width and pace, we need to start getting balls into the box with quality from wide areas, in my opinion there is no point having Buckley on the bench, let’s start him and see how long he can last, if no Buckley then Lua Lua or March simply have to start to provide this width, we looked pretty narrow yesterday, I do feel Oscar is pretty negative, especially at home, cannot rely on 1 nil all the time, and if nil nil after 60 bringing on our impact players to change the game will not always work. Second area of concern is the quality we are bringing into the club, I don’t like to harp on about the Poyet era, but Bridcutt, Lua Lua, Bridge, Ulloa, Orlandi, TC, Bruno, Lopez were all signed by Poyet, so far this year, we have had Obika, Lita, Stephens, Rodriquez, Andrews, Kemy, the difference is quite staggering, as I said before I wonder if it was Jones bringing some of these players in as he seems to have a Yeovil, Charlton connection, I have to be honest I am not the biggest fan of Jones and wonder what he brings to the table. Feel we need somebody a little more respected in the game rather than league 1 level. Very happy though that Oscar likes to give youth a chance, Ince has been the success story of the season by far. Once again I just want to add as a club we are in a great position, we have some of the best fans in the country, we have a youth development system which is the envy of most other clubs, we have a stadium which is frankly one of the best in the world, yes the world, we have a chairman who bleeds blue and white, we will soon have training facilities which will match anything anywhere on offer, and we have people who are running the club within budget and not over spending, we will get to the promised land of the premiership sooner or later and the satisfaction will be doing it within the rules and by running the club properly, we are very lucky to be supporting such a wonderful asset to Sussex By The Sea[/p][/quote]Totally agree with everything you say. Jones has to go. Oscar has to modify his obsession with Barcelona's formation. Does he watch the matches where other Championship teams reguarly score 3 goals or more? Does he ever see those games in which other teams increase their chances of scoring goals by getting 4 or 5 players in the box, and having at least 2 players just outside the box to pick up the pieces or to have the chance of a shot from a headed clearance, and by stretching teams down the flanks? Brighton have the best squad in the division, possible second only to Leicester who we beat 3-1 in one of our best all-round displays of the season. No sweat, we should walk into the play-offs this season. Anything less will be a massive under-achievement. Lets play with 2 wide men from the start - Will and Solly. Orlandi, Ince and Stephens pulling the strings in mid-field. Ulloa will become an even better player and Lindegard will thrive - and we will THRASH the opposition. Leave Lopez, Andrews, Forster-Caskey out and..... GO FOR IT OSCAR!!!!! PLEASE OSCAR - CHEER US ALL UP FOR A CHANGE!!!! PLEEEEEEASE! Vince
  • Score: 3

8:42pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Eddy B says...

some random responses to comments above:
1) I actually don't think the team selection was that negative. If you count Lindgard as a forward, then it was 2 up front at last.
2) However I do agree with EVERYONE there are now better players to choose ahead of Andrews, JFC and David, and injuries allowing we desperately need the guile of Buckley and Orlandi back asap.
3) Rosler is doing great things at Wigan. Was anyone else surprised he wasn't in the running for the Brighton job when Gus left?
4) I honestly didn't really notice the Reading players getting Greer sent off but I must have missed something hence the targeted booing afterwards. Greer got himself his first booking after giving the ball away. The Brighton players (Lindgard and David) didn't exactly cover themselves in glory with a couple of embarrassing dives in the first half (a skill Lindgard has obviously learned at Man U!).
5) However the ref and west stand linesman did have stinkers. The linesman looked well out of his depth from the moment his very first (obvious) throw-in decision was overruled by the ref. and gave one particularly awful offside decision against David.
6) Irrespective of the sending off Reading looked a lot better equipped for a play off push than Brighton
some random responses to comments above: 1) I actually don't think the team selection was that negative. If you count Lindgard as a forward, then it was 2 up front at last. 2) However I do agree with EVERYONE there are now better players to choose ahead of Andrews, JFC and David, and injuries allowing we desperately need the guile of Buckley and Orlandi back asap. 3) Rosler is doing great things at Wigan. Was anyone else surprised he wasn't in the running for the Brighton job when Gus left? 4) I honestly didn't really notice the Reading players getting Greer sent off but I must have missed something hence the targeted booing afterwards. Greer got himself his first booking after giving the ball away. The Brighton players (Lindgard and David) didn't exactly cover themselves in glory with a couple of embarrassing dives in the first half (a skill Lindgard has obviously learned at Man U!). 5) However the ref and west stand linesman did have stinkers. The linesman looked well out of his depth from the moment his very first (obvious) throw-in decision was overruled by the ref. and gave one particularly awful offside decision against David. 6) Irrespective of the sending off Reading looked a lot better equipped for a play off push than Brighton Eddy B
  • Score: 1

8:48pm Sun 9 Mar 14

lowerbeedingseagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Wiseman, To Baldly Go suggest that Oscar is selecting him team on the basis of not conceding, and to be fair we do have a very good defensive record, but maybe the problem is that our defensive record is, 'too good.' Back four plus Andrews, plus Ince and of course TK and that's seven of eleven. Now I know some will say, well Andrews and Ince can get forward, but are they. I could be totally wrong but judging by what those that are at the game have been saying, the driving force from midfield evaporated when we lost Crofts. There were few occasions, if any, when Crofts played that we didn't have a wide player on the park, the loan deal of Jesse looked as though we had the option of using him in the Crofts role so where is the wide player. I am aware that Stephens was signed as a Crofts replacement but Lingard, looking at his history, looks to be a better option.

I am still excited about having Oscar as our head coach but to be perfectly honest, my excitement is more about how he builds the squad for next season rather than what is occurring in the final stages of this one. A top six spot, yep still a chance but promotion, well they say that if you have a chip and a chair you still have a chance to win a poker tournee, right now I think that's what we have, a chip and a chair.
What worries me is the players he brings! Andrews , kemy obika rodders , none worth a place in Gus side
Is it him or Mr Burke assisted by Mr Day together with his 20+ staff of scouts!!

Don't forget Stephens who is a Dean Hammond replacement. He runs about constantly, achieves nothing and misses sitters with the same aplomb. Remember the play off game at Selhurst!! Hammond did score once though with a near post diving header for Blackpool in their 6-1 defeat last season.

Oh for one of those again, but no hope under this management team.

So many people on here say they have complete faith in Oscar and that they trust him to lead Albion to the promised land. They then question his tactics, the team selection and his use of substitutes. I am confused why he is held in such high regard.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Wiseman, To Baldly Go suggest that Oscar is selecting him team on the basis of not conceding, and to be fair we do have a very good defensive record, but maybe the problem is that our defensive record is, 'too good.' Back four plus Andrews, plus Ince and of course TK and that's seven of eleven. Now I know some will say, well Andrews and Ince can get forward, but are they. I could be totally wrong but judging by what those that are at the game have been saying, the driving force from midfield evaporated when we lost Crofts. There were few occasions, if any, when Crofts played that we didn't have a wide player on the park, the loan deal of Jesse looked as though we had the option of using him in the Crofts role so where is the wide player. I am aware that Stephens was signed as a Crofts replacement but Lingard, looking at his history, looks to be a better option. I am still excited about having Oscar as our head coach but to be perfectly honest, my excitement is more about how he builds the squad for next season rather than what is occurring in the final stages of this one. A top six spot, yep still a chance but promotion, well they say that if you have a chip and a chair you still have a chance to win a poker tournee, right now I think that's what we have, a chip and a chair.[/p][/quote]What worries me is the players he brings! Andrews , kemy obika rodders , none worth a place in Gus side[/p][/quote]Is it him or Mr Burke assisted by Mr Day together with his 20+ staff of scouts!! Don't forget Stephens who is a Dean Hammond replacement. He runs about constantly, achieves nothing and misses sitters with the same aplomb. Remember the play off game at Selhurst!! Hammond did score once though with a near post diving header for Blackpool in their 6-1 defeat last season. Oh for one of those again, but no hope under this management team. So many people on here say they have complete faith in Oscar and that they trust him to lead Albion to the promised land. They then question his tactics, the team selection and his use of substitutes. I am confused why he is held in such high regard. lowerbeedingseagull
  • Score: 1

8:53pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Vince says...

FA CUP SEMI-FINALS

Brighton v Sheff-United
Wigan v Arsenal

Oh sorry, Oscar saved his best players for the league games - made 7 changes - and Hull got there courtesy of Oscar's generosity in giving players like Brezovan, Rodders and Forster-Caskey a game.

Shame - oh well it only cost us a mere £3m+ in revenue - a final against Arsenal or Wigan - and the chance of playing in Europe next season.

Never mind - we may get another chance in 50 years time. Oh dear - I will be 115 years old by then!
FA CUP SEMI-FINALS Brighton v Sheff-United Wigan v Arsenal Oh sorry, Oscar saved his best players for the league games - made 7 changes - and Hull got there courtesy of Oscar's generosity in giving players like Brezovan, Rodders and Forster-Caskey a game. Shame - oh well it only cost us a mere £3m+ in revenue - a final against Arsenal or Wigan - and the chance of playing in Europe next season. Never mind - we may get another chance in 50 years time. Oh dear - I will be 115 years old by then! Vince
  • Score: 6

8:54pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Neville says...

I am beginning to feel that for next season Og should concentrate on the Academy set up and we should employ a young ambitious manager to actually set out our stall to play attacking football when at home. Possession is great when winning but at home matches watching all the possession in our own half is driving me to boredom.It is now so predictable every home game that all teams know how to play us and it gives the opponents so much time to regroup defensively,this is one of the main reasons we don,t score enough goals,the other being no one is ever prepared to shoot when in key positions,the ball is offloaded wide and generally wasted.
I am beginning to feel that for next season Og should concentrate on the Academy set up and we should employ a young ambitious manager to actually set out our stall to play attacking football when at home. Possession is great when winning but at home matches watching all the possession in our own half is driving me to boredom.It is now so predictable every home game that all teams know how to play us and it gives the opponents so much time to regroup defensively,this is one of the main reasons we don,t score enough goals,the other being no one is ever prepared to shoot when in key positions,the ball is offloaded wide and generally wasted. Neville
  • Score: 1

9:14pm Sun 9 Mar 14

lowerbeedingseagull says...

Neville wrote:
I am beginning to feel that for next season Og should concentrate on the Academy set up and we should employ a young ambitious manager to actually set out our stall to play attacking football when at home. Possession is great when winning but at home matches watching all the possession in our own half is driving me to boredom.It is now so predictable every home game that all teams know how to play us and it gives the opponents so much time to regroup defensively,this is one of the main reasons we don,t score enough goals,the other being no one is ever prepared to shoot when in key positions,the ball is offloaded wide and generally wasted.
In Alex Ferguson's autobiography he says possession is key but possession in the wrong areas of the pitch is pointless. About right, he did OK over a few years although will be dismissed by one of the overseas correspondents as a dinosaur.

It is only a matter of time until the Albion faithful realise that the current management team is not up to the job. I said 6 weeks ago that they had to go and nothing has happened since to change my mind.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: I am beginning to feel that for next season Og should concentrate on the Academy set up and we should employ a young ambitious manager to actually set out our stall to play attacking football when at home. Possession is great when winning but at home matches watching all the possession in our own half is driving me to boredom.It is now so predictable every home game that all teams know how to play us and it gives the opponents so much time to regroup defensively,this is one of the main reasons we don,t score enough goals,the other being no one is ever prepared to shoot when in key positions,the ball is offloaded wide and generally wasted.[/p][/quote]In Alex Ferguson's autobiography he says possession is key but possession in the wrong areas of the pitch is pointless. About right, he did OK over a few years although will be dismissed by one of the overseas correspondents as a dinosaur. It is only a matter of time until the Albion faithful realise that the current management team is not up to the job. I said 6 weeks ago that they had to go and nothing has happened since to change my mind. lowerbeedingseagull
  • Score: -4

9:19pm Sun 9 Mar 14

lowerbeedingseagull says...

Vince wrote:
FA CUP SEMI-FINALS

Brighton v Sheff-United
Wigan v Arsenal

Oh sorry, Oscar saved his best players for the league games - made 7 changes - and Hull got there courtesy of Oscar's generosity in giving players like Brezovan, Rodders and Forster-Caskey a game.

Shame - oh well it only cost us a mere £3m+ in revenue - a final against Arsenal or Wigan - and the chance of playing in Europe next season.

Never mind - we may get another chance in 50 years time. Oh dear - I will be 115 years old by then!
Good words, Vince.
[quote][p][bold]Vince[/bold] wrote: FA CUP SEMI-FINALS Brighton v Sheff-United Wigan v Arsenal Oh sorry, Oscar saved his best players for the league games - made 7 changes - and Hull got there courtesy of Oscar's generosity in giving players like Brezovan, Rodders and Forster-Caskey a game. Shame - oh well it only cost us a mere £3m+ in revenue - a final against Arsenal or Wigan - and the chance of playing in Europe next season. Never mind - we may get another chance in 50 years time. Oh dear - I will be 115 years old by then![/p][/quote]Good words, Vince. lowerbeedingseagull
  • Score: 0

9:23pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Aldrington Halt says...

Vince wrote:
FA CUP SEMI-FINALS

Brighton v Sheff-United
Wigan v Arsenal

Oh sorry, Oscar saved his best players for the league games - made 7 changes - and Hull got there courtesy of Oscar's generosity in giving players like Brezovan, Rodders and Forster-Caskey a game.

Shame - oh well it only cost us a mere £3m+ in revenue - a final against Arsenal or Wigan - and the chance of playing in Europe next season.

Never mind - we may get another chance in 50 years time. Oh dear - I will be 115 years old by then!
Despite fielding a 'second rate' squad, we held Hull to a draw and narrowly missed out on the second try, just look at how Sunderland lost 3-0 to Hull! We may have some talent here if the glass is half full...Lately the managerial tactics may seem suspect but we are like mushrooms (KITDAFOS) and can only speculate as to why certain choices are made..frustrating Yes but hoping there's a game plan to finish the season with plenty of ammo in reserve. UTA
[quote][p][bold]Vince[/bold] wrote: FA CUP SEMI-FINALS Brighton v Sheff-United Wigan v Arsenal Oh sorry, Oscar saved his best players for the league games - made 7 changes - and Hull got there courtesy of Oscar's generosity in giving players like Brezovan, Rodders and Forster-Caskey a game. Shame - oh well it only cost us a mere £3m+ in revenue - a final against Arsenal or Wigan - and the chance of playing in Europe next season. Never mind - we may get another chance in 50 years time. Oh dear - I will be 115 years old by then![/p][/quote]Despite fielding a 'second rate' squad, we held Hull to a draw and narrowly missed out on the second try, just look at how Sunderland lost 3-0 to Hull! We may have some talent here if the glass is half full...Lately the managerial tactics may seem suspect but we are like mushrooms (KITDAFOS) and can only speculate as to why certain choices are made..frustrating Yes but hoping there's a game plan to finish the season with plenty of ammo in reserve. UTA Aldrington Halt
  • Score: 5

9:26pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Vince says...

lowerbeedingseagull wrote:
Neville wrote: I am beginning to feel that for next season Og should concentrate on the Academy set up and we should employ a young ambitious manager to actually set out our stall to play attacking football when at home. Possession is great when winning but at home matches watching all the possession in our own half is driving me to boredom.It is now so predictable every home game that all teams know how to play us and it gives the opponents so much time to regroup defensively,this is one of the main reasons we don,t score enough goals,the other being no one is ever prepared to shoot when in key positions,the ball is offloaded wide and generally wasted.
In Alex Ferguson's autobiography he says possession is key but possession in the wrong areas of the pitch is pointless. About right, he did OK over a few years although will be dismissed by one of the overseas correspondents as a dinosaur. It is only a matter of time until the Albion faithful realise that the current management team is not up to the job. I said 6 weeks ago that they had to go and nothing has happened since to change my mind.
I now tend to agree. I think managers like Steve Bruce, Sean Dyche, Rossler would have got Albion playing much more exciting football.

I am bored stiff with our negative tactics at home this season - and, but for the fact that I have just qualified for the cheaper pensioner seats next season, I would have seriously thought about the wisdom of paying £500 to watch the same old negative stuff next season.

I really hope that Tony Bloom acts soon before the bubble bursts and our best players like Ulloa, Buckley, Orlandi and Ince leave for pastures new.
[quote][p][bold]lowerbeedingseagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: I am beginning to feel that for next season Og should concentrate on the Academy set up and we should employ a young ambitious manager to actually set out our stall to play attacking football when at home. Possession is great when winning but at home matches watching all the possession in our own half is driving me to boredom.It is now so predictable every home game that all teams know how to play us and it gives the opponents so much time to regroup defensively,this is one of the main reasons we don,t score enough goals,the other being no one is ever prepared to shoot when in key positions,the ball is offloaded wide and generally wasted.[/p][/quote]In Alex Ferguson's autobiography he says possession is key but possession in the wrong areas of the pitch is pointless. About right, he did OK over a few years although will be dismissed by one of the overseas correspondents as a dinosaur. It is only a matter of time until the Albion faithful realise that the current management team is not up to the job. I said 6 weeks ago that they had to go and nothing has happened since to change my mind.[/p][/quote]I now tend to agree. I think managers like Steve Bruce, Sean Dyche, Rossler would have got Albion playing much more exciting football. I am bored stiff with our negative tactics at home this season - and, but for the fact that I have just qualified for the cheaper pensioner seats next season, I would have seriously thought about the wisdom of paying £500 to watch the same old negative stuff next season. I really hope that Tony Bloom acts soon before the bubble bursts and our best players like Ulloa, Buckley, Orlandi and Ince leave for pastures new. Vince
  • Score: 0

9:36pm Sun 9 Mar 14

city-boy says...

Vince wrote:
FA CUP SEMI-FINALS

Brighton v Sheff-United
Wigan v Arsenal

Oh sorry, Oscar saved his best players for the league games - made 7 changes - and Hull got there courtesy of Oscar's generosity in giving players like Brezovan, Rodders and Forster-Caskey a game.

Shame - oh well it only cost us a mere £3m+ in revenue - a final against Arsenal or Wigan - and the chance of playing in Europe next season.

Never mind - we may get another chance in 50 years time. Oh dear - I will be 115 years old by then!
Could not agree more with your post!!!! I remember 83, 91, 04.


They do not come around that often. I am really annoyed as well!!!

Well done Wigan - with belief it can be done!!!!


Grrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Vince[/bold] wrote: FA CUP SEMI-FINALS Brighton v Sheff-United Wigan v Arsenal Oh sorry, Oscar saved his best players for the league games - made 7 changes - and Hull got there courtesy of Oscar's generosity in giving players like Brezovan, Rodders and Forster-Caskey a game. Shame - oh well it only cost us a mere £3m+ in revenue - a final against Arsenal or Wigan - and the chance of playing in Europe next season. Never mind - we may get another chance in 50 years time. Oh dear - I will be 115 years old by then![/p][/quote]Could not agree more with your post!!!! I remember 83, 91, 04. They do not come around that often. I am really annoyed as well!!! Well done Wigan - with belief it can be done!!!! Grrrrrrrrrrrr!!!! city-boy
  • Score: 2

9:47pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Vince says...

city-boy wrote:
Vince wrote: FA CUP SEMI-FINALS Brighton v Sheff-United Wigan v Arsenal Oh sorry, Oscar saved his best players for the league games - made 7 changes - and Hull got there courtesy of Oscar's generosity in giving players like Brezovan, Rodders and Forster-Caskey a game. Shame - oh well it only cost us a mere £3m+ in revenue - a final against Arsenal or Wigan - and the chance of playing in Europe next season. Never mind - we may get another chance in 50 years time. Oh dear - I will be 115 years old by then!
Could not agree more with your post!!!! I remember 83, 91, 04. They do not come around that often. I am really annoyed as well!!! Well done Wigan - with belief it can be done!!!! Grrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!
Oh and I forgot Chicksen who was dire against Hull! If Ward, Bruno or Greer had played in our defence in those last 10 minutes, Hull would never have got their equaliser. Andrews kept giving the ball away - and our defence was totally stretched. We all knew they were going to equalise. So what does Oscar do? He brings on Obika!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Sunderland were there for the taking today - and a cup semi-final v Sheff-United would have been mouth-watering.
[quote][p][bold]city-boy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vince[/bold] wrote: FA CUP SEMI-FINALS Brighton v Sheff-United Wigan v Arsenal Oh sorry, Oscar saved his best players for the league games - made 7 changes - and Hull got there courtesy of Oscar's generosity in giving players like Brezovan, Rodders and Forster-Caskey a game. Shame - oh well it only cost us a mere £3m+ in revenue - a final against Arsenal or Wigan - and the chance of playing in Europe next season. Never mind - we may get another chance in 50 years time. Oh dear - I will be 115 years old by then![/p][/quote]Could not agree more with your post!!!! I remember 83, 91, 04. They do not come around that often. I am really annoyed as well!!! Well done Wigan - with belief it can be done!!!! Grrrrrrrrrrrr!!!![/p][/quote]Oh and I forgot Chicksen who was dire against Hull! If Ward, Bruno or Greer had played in our defence in those last 10 minutes, Hull would never have got their equaliser. Andrews kept giving the ball away - and our defence was totally stretched. We all knew they were going to equalise. So what does Oscar do? He brings on Obika!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sunderland were there for the taking today - and a cup semi-final v Sheff-United would have been mouth-watering. Vince
  • Score: 0

9:49pm Sun 9 Mar 14

lowerbeedingseagull says...

Vince wrote:
lowerbeedingseagull wrote:
Neville wrote: I am beginning to feel that for next season Og should concentrate on the Academy set up and we should employ a young ambitious manager to actually set out our stall to play attacking football when at home. Possession is great when winning but at home matches watching all the possession in our own half is driving me to boredom.It is now so predictable every home game that all teams know how to play us and it gives the opponents so much time to regroup defensively,this is one of the main reasons we don,t score enough goals,the other being no one is ever prepared to shoot when in key positions,the ball is offloaded wide and generally wasted.
In Alex Ferguson's autobiography he says possession is key but possession in the wrong areas of the pitch is pointless. About right, he did OK over a few years although will be dismissed by one of the overseas correspondents as a dinosaur. It is only a matter of time until the Albion faithful realise that the current management team is not up to the job. I said 6 weeks ago that they had to go and nothing has happened since to change my mind.
I now tend to agree. I think managers like Steve Bruce, Sean Dyche, Rossler would have got Albion playing much more exciting football.

I am bored stiff with our negative tactics at home this season - and, but for the fact that I have just qualified for the cheaper pensioner seats next season, I would have seriously thought about the wisdom of paying £500 to watch the same old negative stuff next season.

I really hope that Tony Bloom acts soon before the bubble bursts and our best players like Ulloa, Buckley, Orlandi and Ince leave for pastures new.
Vince, don't forget Kuszczak who is out of contract at the end of the season and has consistently said he wants to play Premiership football. Imagine the score yesterday with either Brezovan or Ankergren playing!!

Just think back at the managers who have achieved promotion from the Championship since Falmer opened and are likely to achieve it this year .

It will not be long before people who pay their money to watch the current product catch on.
[quote][p][bold]Vince[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lowerbeedingseagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: I am beginning to feel that for next season Og should concentrate on the Academy set up and we should employ a young ambitious manager to actually set out our stall to play attacking football when at home. Possession is great when winning but at home matches watching all the possession in our own half is driving me to boredom.It is now so predictable every home game that all teams know how to play us and it gives the opponents so much time to regroup defensively,this is one of the main reasons we don,t score enough goals,the other being no one is ever prepared to shoot when in key positions,the ball is offloaded wide and generally wasted.[/p][/quote]In Alex Ferguson's autobiography he says possession is key but possession in the wrong areas of the pitch is pointless. About right, he did OK over a few years although will be dismissed by one of the overseas correspondents as a dinosaur. It is only a matter of time until the Albion faithful realise that the current management team is not up to the job. I said 6 weeks ago that they had to go and nothing has happened since to change my mind.[/p][/quote]I now tend to agree. I think managers like Steve Bruce, Sean Dyche, Rossler would have got Albion playing much more exciting football. I am bored stiff with our negative tactics at home this season - and, but for the fact that I have just qualified for the cheaper pensioner seats next season, I would have seriously thought about the wisdom of paying £500 to watch the same old negative stuff next season. I really hope that Tony Bloom acts soon before the bubble bursts and our best players like Ulloa, Buckley, Orlandi and Ince leave for pastures new.[/p][/quote]Vince, don't forget Kuszczak who is out of contract at the end of the season and has consistently said he wants to play Premiership football. Imagine the score yesterday with either Brezovan or Ankergren playing!! Just think back at the managers who have achieved promotion from the Championship since Falmer opened and are likely to achieve it this year . It will not be long before people who pay their money to watch the current product catch on. lowerbeedingseagull
  • Score: 1

10:01pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Vince says...

lowerbeedingseagull wrote:
Vince wrote:
lowerbeedingseagull wrote:
Neville wrote: I am beginning to feel that for next season Og should concentrate on the Academy set up and we should employ a young ambitious manager to actually set out our stall to play attacking football when at home. Possession is great when winning but at home matches watching all the possession in our own half is driving me to boredom.It is now so predictable every home game that all teams know how to play us and it gives the opponents so much time to regroup defensively,this is one of the main reasons we don,t score enough goals,the other being no one is ever prepared to shoot when in key positions,the ball is offloaded wide and generally wasted.
In Alex Ferguson's autobiography he says possession is key but possession in the wrong areas of the pitch is pointless. About right, he did OK over a few years although will be dismissed by one of the overseas correspondents as a dinosaur. It is only a matter of time until the Albion faithful realise that the current management team is not up to the job. I said 6 weeks ago that they had to go and nothing has happened since to change my mind.
I now tend to agree. I think managers like Steve Bruce, Sean Dyche, Rossler would have got Albion playing much more exciting football. I am bored stiff with our negative tactics at home this season - and, but for the fact that I have just qualified for the cheaper pensioner seats next season, I would have seriously thought about the wisdom of paying £500 to watch the same old negative stuff next season. I really hope that Tony Bloom acts soon before the bubble bursts and our best players like Ulloa, Buckley, Orlandi and Ince leave for pastures new.
Vince, don't forget Kuszczak who is out of contract at the end of the season and has consistently said he wants to play Premiership football. Imagine the score yesterday with either Brezovan or Ankergren playing!! Just think back at the managers who have achieved promotion from the Championship since Falmer opened and are likely to achieve it this year . It will not be long before people who pay their money to watch the current product catch on.
Yes, I forgot Kuszczak!

Although Tony Bloom has talked often about a 5-year plan to reach the premiership - he needs to realise that the current squad IS good enough. We pulverised Wigan who just beat Man-City, and we outplayed a superb Leicester-City team. We took 4 points off Burnley and nearly 6. We would have beaten Derby home and away with our best team. We are foregoing points at home by our defensive starting line-ups - points which have been lost against Barnsley, Reading, Huddersfield, Bournemouth and others which should have seen us well-established in the top 6.

Mr BLOOM - This is the best time NOW!!! to make use of our fantastic squad - arguably the best in the Championship - to get to the Premiership BEFORE all our best players leave, and the supporters start to drift away.

DECISIVE ACTION IS REQUIRED NOW!!!!
[quote][p][bold]lowerbeedingseagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vince[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lowerbeedingseagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: I am beginning to feel that for next season Og should concentrate on the Academy set up and we should employ a young ambitious manager to actually set out our stall to play attacking football when at home. Possession is great when winning but at home matches watching all the possession in our own half is driving me to boredom.It is now so predictable every home game that all teams know how to play us and it gives the opponents so much time to regroup defensively,this is one of the main reasons we don,t score enough goals,the other being no one is ever prepared to shoot when in key positions,the ball is offloaded wide and generally wasted.[/p][/quote]In Alex Ferguson's autobiography he says possession is key but possession in the wrong areas of the pitch is pointless. About right, he did OK over a few years although will be dismissed by one of the overseas correspondents as a dinosaur. It is only a matter of time until the Albion faithful realise that the current management team is not up to the job. I said 6 weeks ago that they had to go and nothing has happened since to change my mind.[/p][/quote]I now tend to agree. I think managers like Steve Bruce, Sean Dyche, Rossler would have got Albion playing much more exciting football. I am bored stiff with our negative tactics at home this season - and, but for the fact that I have just qualified for the cheaper pensioner seats next season, I would have seriously thought about the wisdom of paying £500 to watch the same old negative stuff next season. I really hope that Tony Bloom acts soon before the bubble bursts and our best players like Ulloa, Buckley, Orlandi and Ince leave for pastures new.[/p][/quote]Vince, don't forget Kuszczak who is out of contract at the end of the season and has consistently said he wants to play Premiership football. Imagine the score yesterday with either Brezovan or Ankergren playing!! Just think back at the managers who have achieved promotion from the Championship since Falmer opened and are likely to achieve it this year . It will not be long before people who pay their money to watch the current product catch on.[/p][/quote]Yes, I forgot Kuszczak! Although Tony Bloom has talked often about a 5-year plan to reach the premiership - he needs to realise that the current squad IS good enough. We pulverised Wigan who just beat Man-City, and we outplayed a superb Leicester-City team. We took 4 points off Burnley and nearly 6. We would have beaten Derby home and away with our best team. We are foregoing points at home by our defensive starting line-ups - points which have been lost against Barnsley, Reading, Huddersfield, Bournemouth and others which should have seen us well-established in the top 6. Mr BLOOM - This is the best time NOW!!! to make use of our fantastic squad - arguably the best in the Championship - to get to the Premiership BEFORE all our best players leave, and the supporters start to drift away. DECISIVE ACTION IS REQUIRED NOW!!!! Vince
  • Score: -1

10:07pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Vince says...

OSCAR!

ALL FUTURE HOME GAMES STARTING WITH QPR.

From the start :- ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK - ULLOA and LINDEGARD, BUCKLEY and MARCH. . ORLANDI, STEPHENS and INCE in midfield

LUA LUA as an impact player if needed.
OSCAR! ALL FUTURE HOME GAMES STARTING WITH QPR. From the start :- ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK - ULLOA and LINDEGARD, BUCKLEY and MARCH. . ORLANDI, STEPHENS and INCE in midfield LUA LUA as an impact player if needed. Vince
  • Score: 4

10:12pm Sun 9 Mar 14

gordongull says...

Vince wrote:
OSCAR!

ALL FUTURE HOME GAMES STARTING WITH QPR.

From the start :- ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK - ULLOA and LINDEGARD, BUCKLEY and MARCH. . ORLANDI, STEPHENS and INCE in midfield

LUA LUA as an impact player if needed.
That's right!
We need an impact starting eleven, not impact subs.
[quote][p][bold]Vince[/bold] wrote: OSCAR! ALL FUTURE HOME GAMES STARTING WITH QPR. From the start :- ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK - ULLOA and LINDEGARD, BUCKLEY and MARCH. . ORLANDI, STEPHENS and INCE in midfield LUA LUA as an impact player if needed.[/p][/quote]That's right! We need an impact starting eleven, not impact subs. gordongull
  • Score: 2

11:27pm Sun 9 Mar 14

jockithenoo says...

Vince wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
The decision not to start with one wide player yesterday seems a little bit puzzling but with both Lingard and David both able to get wide, it's not as though we didn't have anyone to pop a few crosses in. We often hear, after the event, why a certain player didn't make the team sheet, a knock that we didn't know about, and that is understandable, but I would love to know what the thinking was re yesterday's line up considering who we had on the bench. We were at home, we were in a six pointer match, a result was wanted by both sides and Oscar sent out an eleven that he thought could get the points. On Tuesday we will be in the exact same position so do we expect Oscar to send out the same eleven, (Dunk in for Greer), or perhaps I should ask, will Oscar's pre match thinking be the same, we start without a wide player. If Oscar changes things for the visit of QPR, is that a tacit admission that he got it wrong against Reading or, is he expecting QPR to offer a different challenge than that we faced from Reading. We went 50 minutes with eleven on the park and didn't score, that might suggest that the plan didn't work. It might seem that I am having a pop at Oscar, and for once perhaps I am, but what I am really trying to do is to get some idea of what Oscar's thinking was, what was the expected gain from deciding not to start with one wide player, even if Lingard and David can get wide. Anyone got any thoughts?
Vegas,

My companions and I remarked before play started when the teams were announced that the subs bench was much stronger than many of the starting 11 (e.g. Andrews, Forster Caskey and Lopez). When Buckley and March came on for the latter two players, we absolutely murdered their defence, and at last looked a potent attacking force - even with 10 men (AND at a time when Reading had the massive boost of seeing us go down to 10 men which put a spring in their heels and which saw them immediately go flat out for a victory). And Ulloa now started to get interested when he at last had some proper support.

It baffles me and many Albion supporters that Oscar continues to leave our game-changing players on the bench and is content to see us play the negative, containing game in the first half of most of our home games.

Once we went 1-0 up (rather fortuitously) Reading were there for the taking. Oscar should have gone for the jugular at that point by bringing on Buckley (who was running up and down the touchline - clearly wanting to get in on the action) - Brighton had no attacking width in the first half - and Solly March on the left flank to really stretch them. Reading would not have come back from 2-0 down - and we may have ended up scoring 4.

It baffles me that Oscar lacks that "killer" instinct to really capitalise on our home games - by getting on top from the outset - rather than allowing games to drift on in the same boring sideways, backwards passing movements - often handing the initiative to the away teams to push higher up the field and press us. Barnsley were a prime example of this - and got their only away win of the season against us.

Against Reading in the first half - we seemed to have no attacking fluency or plan. It was really awful. Andrews, Lopez, Ward and Greer and even our new forward Lindegard gave the ball away far too easily in the first half and we were lucky to be leading 1-0 at half time. That we were ahead was due to some good defensive work by our back 4 and some dreadful finishing by Reading as well as the own-goal.

I'm afraid if we don't make the play-offs this season - it will IMHO be largely down to Oscar and his negative tactics. When he did play an attacking line-up from the start - like against Wigan - we absolutely murdered them - and it was an absolute travesty that they scored one fluke and another from a corner when Brighton ran them ragged getting 20 shots on target to their 2. Wigan were ecstatic to beat us, and their manager said how lucky they were to keep us out. Wigan have just beaten Man-city to reach the semi-finals - where Albion should be if Oscar had played our strongest team against Hull - with a home quarter final v Sunderland in prospect (who looked very ordinary today) - and a semi-final against Sheffield-United and a great chance of meeting Wigan or Arsenal at Wembley in the final. The revenue that this would have brought in would have matched the money we got for Bridcutt.

TO SUMMARISE:- I FEEL SO FRUSTRATED .BY THE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES CAUSED BY OSCARS TACTICS I COULD CRY!!!!!

WHEN WILL WE EVER GET A BETTER CHANCE TO GET TO ANOTHER WEMBLEY FINAL THAN THIS YEAR????? PROBABLY NOT IN MY LIFETIME. I REALLY FEEL LIKE PACKING IN MY SUPPORT OF THE ALBION - AT SUCH NEGATIVITY AND CAUTION.
Bye bye then !!!!!!!
TRUE SUPPORTERS THICK AND THIN THE GOOD TIMES AND THE BAD
FFS PULL YOU'RE SOCKS AND STOP F@#@*! G MOANING .
DON'T FORGET TO CANCEL YOUR DIRECT DEBIT.
UTA
[quote][p][bold]Vince[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: The decision not to start with one wide player yesterday seems a little bit puzzling but with both Lingard and David both able to get wide, it's not as though we didn't have anyone to pop a few crosses in. We often hear, after the event, why a certain player didn't make the team sheet, a knock that we didn't know about, and that is understandable, but I would love to know what the thinking was re yesterday's line up considering who we had on the bench. We were at home, we were in a six pointer match, a result was wanted by both sides and Oscar sent out an eleven that he thought could get the points. On Tuesday we will be in the exact same position so do we expect Oscar to send out the same eleven, (Dunk in for Greer), or perhaps I should ask, will Oscar's pre match thinking be the same, we start without a wide player. If Oscar changes things for the visit of QPR, is that a tacit admission that he got it wrong against Reading or, is he expecting QPR to offer a different challenge than that we faced from Reading. We went 50 minutes with eleven on the park and didn't score, that might suggest that the plan didn't work. It might seem that I am having a pop at Oscar, and for once perhaps I am, but what I am really trying to do is to get some idea of what Oscar's thinking was, what was the expected gain from deciding not to start with one wide player, even if Lingard and David can get wide. Anyone got any thoughts?[/p][/quote]Vegas, My companions and I remarked before play started when the teams were announced that the subs bench was much stronger than many of the starting 11 (e.g. Andrews, Forster Caskey and Lopez). When Buckley and March came on for the latter two players, we absolutely murdered their defence, and at last looked a potent attacking force - even with 10 men (AND at a time when Reading had the massive boost of seeing us go down to 10 men which put a spring in their heels and which saw them immediately go flat out for a victory). And Ulloa now started to get interested when he at last had some proper support. It baffles me and many Albion supporters that Oscar continues to leave our game-changing players on the bench and is content to see us play the negative, containing game in the first half of most of our home games. Once we went 1-0 up (rather fortuitously) Reading were there for the taking. Oscar should have gone for the jugular at that point by bringing on Buckley (who was running up and down the touchline - clearly wanting to get in on the action) - Brighton had no attacking width in the first half - and Solly March on the left flank to really stretch them. Reading would not have come back from 2-0 down - and we may have ended up scoring 4. It baffles me that Oscar lacks that "killer" instinct to really capitalise on our home games - by getting on top from the outset - rather than allowing games to drift on in the same boring sideways, backwards passing movements - often handing the initiative to the away teams to push higher up the field and press us. Barnsley were a prime example of this - and got their only away win of the season against us. Against Reading in the first half - we seemed to have no attacking fluency or plan. It was really awful. Andrews, Lopez, Ward and Greer and even our new forward Lindegard gave the ball away far too easily in the first half and we were lucky to be leading 1-0 at half time. That we were ahead was due to some good defensive work by our back 4 and some dreadful finishing by Reading as well as the own-goal. I'm afraid if we don't make the play-offs this season - it will IMHO be largely down to Oscar and his negative tactics. When he did play an attacking line-up from the start - like against Wigan - we absolutely murdered them - and it was an absolute travesty that they scored one fluke and another from a corner when Brighton ran them ragged getting 20 shots on target to their 2. Wigan were ecstatic to beat us, and their manager said how lucky they were to keep us out. Wigan have just beaten Man-city to reach the semi-finals - where Albion should be if Oscar had played our strongest team against Hull - with a home quarter final v Sunderland in prospect (who looked very ordinary today) - and a semi-final against Sheffield-United and a great chance of meeting Wigan or Arsenal at Wembley in the final. The revenue that this would have brought in would have matched the money we got for Bridcutt. TO SUMMARISE:- I FEEL SO FRUSTRATED .BY THE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES CAUSED BY OSCARS TACTICS I COULD CRY!!!!! WHEN WILL WE EVER GET A BETTER CHANCE TO GET TO ANOTHER WEMBLEY FINAL THAN THIS YEAR????? PROBABLY NOT IN MY LIFETIME. I REALLY FEEL LIKE PACKING IN MY SUPPORT OF THE ALBION - AT SUCH NEGATIVITY AND CAUTION.[/p][/quote]Bye bye then !!!!!!! TRUE SUPPORTERS THICK AND THIN THE GOOD TIMES AND THE BAD FFS PULL YOU'RE SOCKS AND STOP F@#@*! G MOANING . DON'T FORGET TO CANCEL YOUR DIRECT DEBIT. UTA jockithenoo
  • Score: 4

11:32pm Sun 9 Mar 14

gordongull says...

wiseman of hove wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Wiseman, To Baldly Go suggest that Oscar is selecting him team on the basis of not conceding, and to be fair we do have a very good defensive record, but maybe the problem is that our defensive record is, 'too good.' Back four plus Andrews, plus Ince and of course TK and that's seven of eleven. Now I know some will say, well Andrews and Ince can get forward, but are they. I could be totally wrong but judging by what those that are at the game have been saying, the driving force from midfield evaporated when we lost Crofts. There were few occasions, if any, when Crofts played that we didn't have a wide player on the park, the loan deal of Jesse looked as though we had the option of using him in the Crofts role so where is the wide player. I am aware that Stephens was signed as a Crofts replacement but Lingard, looking at his history, looks to be a better option.

I am still excited about having Oscar as our head coach but to be perfectly honest, my excitement is more about how he builds the squad for next season rather than what is occurring in the final stages of this one. A top six spot, yep still a chance but promotion, well they say that if you have a chip and a chair you still have a chance to win a poker tournee, right now I think that's what we have, a chip and a chair.
I think my excitement with Oscar has to some extent dissipated. I Iike the way he conducts himself. On the face of it, his coaching credentials are impeccable. However, I am not convinced by listening to, or reading Jones' comments etc. Perhaps other posters can clarify but I doubt that he was an Oscar appointment, and the pairing does not convince me.
Digressing,where Oscar has been desperately unlucky, is the loss of Crofts - indeed the driving force - and the on-going injury problems with Buckley and now Orlandi. I have no doubts myself that Stephens is going to be an excellent acquisition but even he has had a punctuated start being cup- tied and injured.
I think it is fair to say that the jury is out on Oscar. There is a fund of good will with the legacy of the Poyet saga and injury problems but I detect growing frustration with team selection as I have expressed above.
From what I can gather, Wiseman, Nathan Jones was appointed because he speaks Spanish.
Oscar's English has improved to the point where Jones will soon be surplus to requirements.
[quote][p][bold]wiseman of hove[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Wiseman, To Baldly Go suggest that Oscar is selecting him team on the basis of not conceding, and to be fair we do have a very good defensive record, but maybe the problem is that our defensive record is, 'too good.' Back four plus Andrews, plus Ince and of course TK and that's seven of eleven. Now I know some will say, well Andrews and Ince can get forward, but are they. I could be totally wrong but judging by what those that are at the game have been saying, the driving force from midfield evaporated when we lost Crofts. There were few occasions, if any, when Crofts played that we didn't have a wide player on the park, the loan deal of Jesse looked as though we had the option of using him in the Crofts role so where is the wide player. I am aware that Stephens was signed as a Crofts replacement but Lingard, looking at his history, looks to be a better option. I am still excited about having Oscar as our head coach but to be perfectly honest, my excitement is more about how he builds the squad for next season rather than what is occurring in the final stages of this one. A top six spot, yep still a chance but promotion, well they say that if you have a chip and a chair you still have a chance to win a poker tournee, right now I think that's what we have, a chip and a chair.[/p][/quote]I think my excitement with Oscar has to some extent dissipated. I Iike the way he conducts himself. On the face of it, his coaching credentials are impeccable. However, I am not convinced by listening to, or reading Jones' comments etc. Perhaps other posters can clarify but I doubt that he was an Oscar appointment, and the pairing does not convince me. Digressing,where Oscar has been desperately unlucky, is the loss of Crofts - indeed the driving force - and the on-going injury problems with Buckley and now Orlandi. I have no doubts myself that Stephens is going to be an excellent acquisition but even he has had a punctuated start being cup- tied and injured. I think it is fair to say that the jury is out on Oscar. There is a fund of good will with the legacy of the Poyet saga and injury problems but I detect growing frustration with team selection as I have expressed above.[/p][/quote]From what I can gather, Wiseman, Nathan Jones was appointed because he speaks Spanish. Oscar's English has improved to the point where Jones will soon be surplus to requirements. gordongull
  • Score: 0

11:34pm Sun 9 Mar 14

jockithenoo says...

The Phantom wrote:
jockithenoo wrote:
The Phantom wrote:
On a separate issue, just watched Burnley come from behind to win 2-1 at Blackburn. Absolutely amazing what Sean Dyche is achieving with a small squad with arguably less ability and less strength in depth than Brightons. Practically the same first X1 playing every game with passion, a positive intent and a will to win - no signs of tiredness so far and still going strong.
How much of his squad has he changed Oh or not had available? ??
Different situation pointless comments.
UTA
My point was to illustrate what can be achieved with some positive intent (i.e. playing purposeful, positive football) and a positive attitude (not keep saying your players are tired). It was acknowledged by Nathan Jones the other day that Burnley were the only club that plays the same team every week - well it looks like it blooming well works!
Yep spot on if you've got the same players all fit and ready every game he's only used 22 players this season probably the least in the championship good that are all well.
Certainly had more players fit than we have.
[quote][p][bold]The Phantom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jockithenoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Phantom[/bold] wrote: On a separate issue, just watched Burnley come from behind to win 2-1 at Blackburn. Absolutely amazing what Sean Dyche is achieving with a small squad with arguably less ability and less strength in depth than Brightons. Practically the same first X1 playing every game with passion, a positive intent and a will to win - no signs of tiredness so far and still going strong.[/p][/quote]How much of his squad has he changed Oh or not had available? ?? Different situation pointless comments. UTA[/p][/quote]My point was to illustrate what can be achieved with some positive intent (i.e. playing purposeful, positive football) and a positive attitude (not keep saying your players are tired). It was acknowledged by Nathan Jones the other day that Burnley were the only club that plays the same team every week - well it looks like it blooming well works![/p][/quote]Yep spot on if you've got the same players all fit and ready every game he's only used 22 players this season probably the least in the championship good that are all well. Certainly had more players fit than we have. jockithenoo
  • Score: 1

11:44pm Sun 9 Mar 14

gordongull says...

jockithenoo wrote:
Vince wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
The decision not to start with one wide player yesterday seems a little bit puzzling but with both Lingard and David both able to get wide, it's not as though we didn't have anyone to pop a few crosses in. We often hear, after the event, why a certain player didn't make the team sheet, a knock that we didn't know about, and that is understandable, but I would love to know what the thinking was re yesterday's line up considering who we had on the bench. We were at home, we were in a six pointer match, a result was wanted by both sides and Oscar sent out an eleven that he thought could get the points. On Tuesday we will be in the exact same position so do we expect Oscar to send out the same eleven, (Dunk in for Greer), or perhaps I should ask, will Oscar's pre match thinking be the same, we start without a wide player. If Oscar changes things for the visit of QPR, is that a tacit admission that he got it wrong against Reading or, is he expecting QPR to offer a different challenge than that we faced from Reading. We went 50 minutes with eleven on the park and didn't score, that might suggest that the plan didn't work. It might seem that I am having a pop at Oscar, and for once perhaps I am, but what I am really trying to do is to get some idea of what Oscar's thinking was, what was the expected gain from deciding not to start with one wide player, even if Lingard and David can get wide. Anyone got any thoughts?
Vegas,

My companions and I remarked before play started when the teams were announced that the subs bench was much stronger than many of the starting 11 (e.g. Andrews, Forster Caskey and Lopez). When Buckley and March came on for the latter two players, we absolutely murdered their defence, and at last looked a potent attacking force - even with 10 men (AND at a time when Reading had the massive boost of seeing us go down to 10 men which put a spring in their heels and which saw them immediately go flat out for a victory). And Ulloa now started to get interested when he at last had some proper support.

It baffles me and many Albion supporters that Oscar continues to leave our game-changing players on the bench and is content to see us play the negative, containing game in the first half of most of our home games.

Once we went 1-0 up (rather fortuitously) Reading were there for the taking. Oscar should have gone for the jugular at that point by bringing on Buckley (who was running up and down the touchline - clearly wanting to get in on the action) - Brighton had no attacking width in the first half - and Solly March on the left flank to really stretch them. Reading would not have come back from 2-0 down - and we may have ended up scoring 4.

It baffles me that Oscar lacks that "killer" instinct to really capitalise on our home games - by getting on top from the outset - rather than allowing games to drift on in the same boring sideways, backwards passing movements - often handing the initiative to the away teams to push higher up the field and press us. Barnsley were a prime example of this - and got their only away win of the season against us.

Against Reading in the first half - we seemed to have no attacking fluency or plan. It was really awful. Andrews, Lopez, Ward and Greer and even our new forward Lindegard gave the ball away far too easily in the first half and we were lucky to be leading 1-0 at half time. That we were ahead was due to some good defensive work by our back 4 and some dreadful finishing by Reading as well as the own-goal.

I'm afraid if we don't make the play-offs this season - it will IMHO be largely down to Oscar and his negative tactics. When he did play an attacking line-up from the start - like against Wigan - we absolutely murdered them - and it was an absolute travesty that they scored one fluke and another from a corner when Brighton ran them ragged getting 20 shots on target to their 2. Wigan were ecstatic to beat us, and their manager said how lucky they were to keep us out. Wigan have just beaten Man-city to reach the semi-finals - where Albion should be if Oscar had played our strongest team against Hull - with a home quarter final v Sunderland in prospect (who looked very ordinary today) - and a semi-final against Sheffield-United and a great chance of meeting Wigan or Arsenal at Wembley in the final. The revenue that this would have brought in would have matched the money we got for Bridcutt.

TO SUMMARISE:- I FEEL SO FRUSTRATED .BY THE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES CAUSED BY OSCARS TACTICS I COULD CRY!!!!!

WHEN WILL WE EVER GET A BETTER CHANCE TO GET TO ANOTHER WEMBLEY FINAL THAN THIS YEAR????? PROBABLY NOT IN MY LIFETIME. I REALLY FEEL LIKE PACKING IN MY SUPPORT OF THE ALBION - AT SUCH NEGATIVITY AND CAUTION.
Bye bye then !!!!!!!
TRUE SUPPORTERS THICK AND THIN THE GOOD TIMES AND THE BAD
FFS PULL YOU'RE SOCKS AND STOP F@#@*! G MOANING .
DON'T FORGET TO CANCEL YOUR DIRECT DEBIT.
UTA
This isn't about supporting through thick and thin.
The point is that a lot of fans think it could be a whole lot better using the same players that are available to Oscar.
[quote][p][bold]jockithenoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vince[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: The decision not to start with one wide player yesterday seems a little bit puzzling but with both Lingard and David both able to get wide, it's not as though we didn't have anyone to pop a few crosses in. We often hear, after the event, why a certain player didn't make the team sheet, a knock that we didn't know about, and that is understandable, but I would love to know what the thinking was re yesterday's line up considering who we had on the bench. We were at home, we were in a six pointer match, a result was wanted by both sides and Oscar sent out an eleven that he thought could get the points. On Tuesday we will be in the exact same position so do we expect Oscar to send out the same eleven, (Dunk in for Greer), or perhaps I should ask, will Oscar's pre match thinking be the same, we start without a wide player. If Oscar changes things for the visit of QPR, is that a tacit admission that he got it wrong against Reading or, is he expecting QPR to offer a different challenge than that we faced from Reading. We went 50 minutes with eleven on the park and didn't score, that might suggest that the plan didn't work. It might seem that I am having a pop at Oscar, and for once perhaps I am, but what I am really trying to do is to get some idea of what Oscar's thinking was, what was the expected gain from deciding not to start with one wide player, even if Lingard and David can get wide. Anyone got any thoughts?[/p][/quote]Vegas, My companions and I remarked before play started when the teams were announced that the subs bench was much stronger than many of the starting 11 (e.g. Andrews, Forster Caskey and Lopez). When Buckley and March came on for the latter two players, we absolutely murdered their defence, and at last looked a potent attacking force - even with 10 men (AND at a time when Reading had the massive boost of seeing us go down to 10 men which put a spring in their heels and which saw them immediately go flat out for a victory). And Ulloa now started to get interested when he at last had some proper support. It baffles me and many Albion supporters that Oscar continues to leave our game-changing players on the bench and is content to see us play the negative, containing game in the first half of most of our home games. Once we went 1-0 up (rather fortuitously) Reading were there for the taking. Oscar should have gone for the jugular at that point by bringing on Buckley (who was running up and down the touchline - clearly wanting to get in on the action) - Brighton had no attacking width in the first half - and Solly March on the left flank to really stretch them. Reading would not have come back from 2-0 down - and we may have ended up scoring 4. It baffles me that Oscar lacks that "killer" instinct to really capitalise on our home games - by getting on top from the outset - rather than allowing games to drift on in the same boring sideways, backwards passing movements - often handing the initiative to the away teams to push higher up the field and press us. Barnsley were a prime example of this - and got their only away win of the season against us. Against Reading in the first half - we seemed to have no attacking fluency or plan. It was really awful. Andrews, Lopez, Ward and Greer and even our new forward Lindegard gave the ball away far too easily in the first half and we were lucky to be leading 1-0 at half time. That we were ahead was due to some good defensive work by our back 4 and some dreadful finishing by Reading as well as the own-goal. I'm afraid if we don't make the play-offs this season - it will IMHO be largely down to Oscar and his negative tactics. When he did play an attacking line-up from the start - like against Wigan - we absolutely murdered them - and it was an absolute travesty that they scored one fluke and another from a corner when Brighton ran them ragged getting 20 shots on target to their 2. Wigan were ecstatic to beat us, and their manager said how lucky they were to keep us out. Wigan have just beaten Man-city to reach the semi-finals - where Albion should be if Oscar had played our strongest team against Hull - with a home quarter final v Sunderland in prospect (who looked very ordinary today) - and a semi-final against Sheffield-United and a great chance of meeting Wigan or Arsenal at Wembley in the final. The revenue that this would have brought in would have matched the money we got for Bridcutt. TO SUMMARISE:- I FEEL SO FRUSTRATED .BY THE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES CAUSED BY OSCARS TACTICS I COULD CRY!!!!! WHEN WILL WE EVER GET A BETTER CHANCE TO GET TO ANOTHER WEMBLEY FINAL THAN THIS YEAR????? PROBABLY NOT IN MY LIFETIME. I REALLY FEEL LIKE PACKING IN MY SUPPORT OF THE ALBION - AT SUCH NEGATIVITY AND CAUTION.[/p][/quote]Bye bye then !!!!!!! TRUE SUPPORTERS THICK AND THIN THE GOOD TIMES AND THE BAD FFS PULL YOU'RE SOCKS AND STOP F@#@*! G MOANING . DON'T FORGET TO CANCEL YOUR DIRECT DEBIT. UTA[/p][/quote]This isn't about supporting through thick and thin. The point is that a lot of fans think it could be a whole lot better using the same players that are available to Oscar. gordongull
  • Score: 0

11:57pm Sun 9 Mar 14

OldGull says...

Vince wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
The decision not to start with one wide player yesterday seems a little bit puzzling but with both Lingard and David both able to get wide, it's not as though we didn't have anyone to pop a few crosses in. We often hear, after the event, why a certain player didn't make the team sheet, a knock that we didn't know about, and that is understandable, but I would love to know what the thinking was re yesterday's line up considering who we had on the bench. We were at home, we were in a six pointer match, a result was wanted by both sides and Oscar sent out an eleven that he thought could get the points. On Tuesday we will be in the exact same position so do we expect Oscar to send out the same eleven, (Dunk in for Greer), or perhaps I should ask, will Oscar's pre match thinking be the same, we start without a wide player. If Oscar changes things for the visit of QPR, is that a tacit admission that he got it wrong against Reading or, is he expecting QPR to offer a different challenge than that we faced from Reading. We went 50 minutes with eleven on the park and didn't score, that might suggest that the plan didn't work. It might seem that I am having a pop at Oscar, and for once perhaps I am, but what I am really trying to do is to get some idea of what Oscar's thinking was, what was the expected gain from deciding not to start with one wide player, even if Lingard and David can get wide. Anyone got any thoughts?
Vegas,

My companions and I remarked before play started when the teams were announced that the subs bench was much stronger than many of the starting 11 (e.g. Andrews, Forster Caskey and Lopez). When Buckley and March came on for the latter two players, we absolutely murdered their defence, and at last looked a potent attacking force - even with 10 men (AND at a time when Reading had the massive boost of seeing us go down to 10 men which put a spring in their heels and which saw them immediately go flat out for a victory). And Ulloa now started to get interested when he at last had some proper support.

It baffles me and many Albion supporters that Oscar continues to leave our game-changing players on the bench and is content to see us play the negative, containing game in the first half of most of our home games.

Once we went 1-0 up (rather fortuitously) Reading were there for the taking. Oscar should have gone for the jugular at that point by bringing on Buckley (who was running up and down the touchline - clearly wanting to get in on the action) - Brighton had no attacking width in the first half - and Solly March on the left flank to really stretch them. Reading would not have come back from 2-0 down - and we may have ended up scoring 4.

It baffles me that Oscar lacks that "killer" instinct to really capitalise on our home games - by getting on top from the outset - rather than allowing games to drift on in the same boring sideways, backwards passing movements - often handing the initiative to the away teams to push higher up the field and press us. Barnsley were a prime example of this - and got their only away win of the season against us.

Against Reading in the first half - we seemed to have no attacking fluency or plan. It was really awful. Andrews, Lopez, Ward and Greer and even our new forward Lindegard gave the ball away far too easily in the first half and we were lucky to be leading 1-0 at half time. That we were ahead was due to some good defensive work by our back 4 and some dreadful finishing by Reading as well as the own-goal.

I'm afraid if we don't make the play-offs this season - it will IMHO be largely down to Oscar and his negative tactics. When he did play an attacking line-up from the start - like against Wigan - we absolutely murdered them - and it was an absolute travesty that they scored one fluke and another from a corner when Brighton ran them ragged getting 20 shots on target to their 2. Wigan were ecstatic to beat us, and their manager said how lucky they were to keep us out. Wigan have just beaten Man-city to reach the semi-finals - where Albion should be if Oscar had played our strongest team against Hull - with a home quarter final v Sunderland in prospect (who looked very ordinary today) - and a semi-final against Sheffield-United and a great chance of meeting Wigan or Arsenal at Wembley in the final. The revenue that this would have brought in would have matched the money we got for Bridcutt.

TO SUMMARISE:- I FEEL SO FRUSTRATED .BY THE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES CAUSED BY OSCARS TACTICS I COULD CRY!!!!!

WHEN WILL WE EVER GET A BETTER CHANCE TO GET TO ANOTHER WEMBLEY FINAL THAN THIS YEAR????? PROBABLY NOT IN MY LIFETIME. I REALLY FEEL LIKE PACKING IN MY SUPPORT OF THE ALBION - AT SUCH NEGATIVITY AND CAUTION.
" I REALLY FEEL LIKE PACKING IN MY SUPPORT OF THE ALBION "?????

True supporter then!
[quote][p][bold]Vince[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: The decision not to start with one wide player yesterday seems a little bit puzzling but with both Lingard and David both able to get wide, it's not as though we didn't have anyone to pop a few crosses in. We often hear, after the event, why a certain player didn't make the team sheet, a knock that we didn't know about, and that is understandable, but I would love to know what the thinking was re yesterday's line up considering who we had on the bench. We were at home, we were in a six pointer match, a result was wanted by both sides and Oscar sent out an eleven that he thought could get the points. On Tuesday we will be in the exact same position so do we expect Oscar to send out the same eleven, (Dunk in for Greer), or perhaps I should ask, will Oscar's pre match thinking be the same, we start without a wide player. If Oscar changes things for the visit of QPR, is that a tacit admission that he got it wrong against Reading or, is he expecting QPR to offer a different challenge than that we faced from Reading. We went 50 minutes with eleven on the park and didn't score, that might suggest that the plan didn't work. It might seem that I am having a pop at Oscar, and for once perhaps I am, but what I am really trying to do is to get some idea of what Oscar's thinking was, what was the expected gain from deciding not to start with one wide player, even if Lingard and David can get wide. Anyone got any thoughts?[/p][/quote]Vegas, My companions and I remarked before play started when the teams were announced that the subs bench was much stronger than many of the starting 11 (e.g. Andrews, Forster Caskey and Lopez). When Buckley and March came on for the latter two players, we absolutely murdered their defence, and at last looked a potent attacking force - even with 10 men (AND at a time when Reading had the massive boost of seeing us go down to 10 men which put a spring in their heels and which saw them immediately go flat out for a victory). And Ulloa now started to get interested when he at last had some proper support. It baffles me and many Albion supporters that Oscar continues to leave our game-changing players on the bench and is content to see us play the negative, containing game in the first half of most of our home games. Once we went 1-0 up (rather fortuitously) Reading were there for the taking. Oscar should have gone for the jugular at that point by bringing on Buckley (who was running up and down the touchline - clearly wanting to get in on the action) - Brighton had no attacking width in the first half - and Solly March on the left flank to really stretch them. Reading would not have come back from 2-0 down - and we may have ended up scoring 4. It baffles me that Oscar lacks that "killer" instinct to really capitalise on our home games - by getting on top from the outset - rather than allowing games to drift on in the same boring sideways, backwards passing movements - often handing the initiative to the away teams to push higher up the field and press us. Barnsley were a prime example of this - and got their only away win of the season against us. Against Reading in the first half - we seemed to have no attacking fluency or plan. It was really awful. Andrews, Lopez, Ward and Greer and even our new forward Lindegard gave the ball away far too easily in the first half and we were lucky to be leading 1-0 at half time. That we were ahead was due to some good defensive work by our back 4 and some dreadful finishing by Reading as well as the own-goal. I'm afraid if we don't make the play-offs this season - it will IMHO be largely down to Oscar and his negative tactics. When he did play an attacking line-up from the start - like against Wigan - we absolutely murdered them - and it was an absolute travesty that they scored one fluke and another from a corner when Brighton ran them ragged getting 20 shots on target to their 2. Wigan were ecstatic to beat us, and their manager said how lucky they were to keep us out. Wigan have just beaten Man-city to reach the semi-finals - where Albion should be if Oscar had played our strongest team against Hull - with a home quarter final v Sunderland in prospect (who looked very ordinary today) - and a semi-final against Sheffield-United and a great chance of meeting Wigan or Arsenal at Wembley in the final. The revenue that this would have brought in would have matched the money we got for Bridcutt. TO SUMMARISE:- I FEEL SO FRUSTRATED .BY THE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES CAUSED BY OSCARS TACTICS I COULD CRY!!!!! WHEN WILL WE EVER GET A BETTER CHANCE TO GET TO ANOTHER WEMBLEY FINAL THAN THIS YEAR????? PROBABLY NOT IN MY LIFETIME. I REALLY FEEL LIKE PACKING IN MY SUPPORT OF THE ALBION - AT SUCH NEGATIVITY AND CAUTION.[/p][/quote]" I REALLY FEEL LIKE PACKING IN MY SUPPORT OF THE ALBION "????? True supporter then! OldGull
  • Score: 2

12:08am Mon 10 Mar 14

OldGull says...

gordongull wrote:
jockithenoo wrote:
Vince wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
The decision not to start with one wide player yesterday seems a little bit puzzling but with both Lingard and David both able to get wide, it's not as though we didn't have anyone to pop a few crosses in. We often hear, after the event, why a certain player didn't make the team sheet, a knock that we didn't know about, and that is understandable, but I would love to know what the thinking was re yesterday's line up considering who we had on the bench. We were at home, we were in a six pointer match, a result was wanted by both sides and Oscar sent out an eleven that he thought could get the points. On Tuesday we will be in the exact same position so do we expect Oscar to send out the same eleven, (Dunk in for Greer), or perhaps I should ask, will Oscar's pre match thinking be the same, we start without a wide player. If Oscar changes things for the visit of QPR, is that a tacit admission that he got it wrong against Reading or, is he expecting QPR to offer a different challenge than that we faced from Reading. We went 50 minutes with eleven on the park and didn't score, that might suggest that the plan didn't work. It might seem that I am having a pop at Oscar, and for once perhaps I am, but what I am really trying to do is to get some idea of what Oscar's thinking was, what was the expected gain from deciding not to start with one wide player, even if Lingard and David can get wide. Anyone got any thoughts?
Vegas,

My companions and I remarked before play started when the teams were announced that the subs bench was much stronger than many of the starting 11 (e.g. Andrews, Forster Caskey and Lopez). When Buckley and March came on for the latter two players, we absolutely murdered their defence, and at last looked a potent attacking force - even with 10 men (AND at a time when Reading had the massive boost of seeing us go down to 10 men which put a spring in their heels and which saw them immediately go flat out for a victory). And Ulloa now started to get interested when he at last had some proper support.

It baffles me and many Albion supporters that Oscar continues to leave our game-changing players on the bench and is content to see us play the negative, containing game in the first half of most of our home games.

Once we went 1-0 up (rather fortuitously) Reading were there for the taking. Oscar should have gone for the jugular at that point by bringing on Buckley (who was running up and down the touchline - clearly wanting to get in on the action) - Brighton had no attacking width in the first half - and Solly March on the left flank to really stretch them. Reading would not have come back from 2-0 down - and we may have ended up scoring 4.

It baffles me that Oscar lacks that "killer" instinct to really capitalise on our home games - by getting on top from the outset - rather than allowing games to drift on in the same boring sideways, backwards passing movements - often handing the initiative to the away teams to push higher up the field and press us. Barnsley were a prime example of this - and got their only away win of the season against us.

Against Reading in the first half - we seemed to have no attacking fluency or plan. It was really awful. Andrews, Lopez, Ward and Greer and even our new forward Lindegard gave the ball away far too easily in the first half and we were lucky to be leading 1-0 at half time. That we were ahead was due to some good defensive work by our back 4 and some dreadful finishing by Reading as well as the own-goal.

I'm afraid if we don't make the play-offs this season - it will IMHO be largely down to Oscar and his negative tactics. When he did play an attacking line-up from the start - like against Wigan - we absolutely murdered them - and it was an absolute travesty that they scored one fluke and another from a corner when Brighton ran them ragged getting 20 shots on target to their 2. Wigan were ecstatic to beat us, and their manager said how lucky they were to keep us out. Wigan have just beaten Man-city to reach the semi-finals - where Albion should be if Oscar had played our strongest team against Hull - with a home quarter final v Sunderland in prospect (who looked very ordinary today) - and a semi-final against Sheffield-United and a great chance of meeting Wigan or Arsenal at Wembley in the final. The revenue that this would have brought in would have matched the money we got for Bridcutt.

TO SUMMARISE:- I FEEL SO FRUSTRATED .BY THE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES CAUSED BY OSCARS TACTICS I COULD CRY!!!!!

WHEN WILL WE EVER GET A BETTER CHANCE TO GET TO ANOTHER WEMBLEY FINAL THAN THIS YEAR????? PROBABLY NOT IN MY LIFETIME. I REALLY FEEL LIKE PACKING IN MY SUPPORT OF THE ALBION - AT SUCH NEGATIVITY AND CAUTION.
Bye bye then !!!!!!!
TRUE SUPPORTERS THICK AND THIN THE GOOD TIMES AND THE BAD
FFS PULL YOU'RE SOCKS AND STOP F@#@*! G MOANING .
DON'T FORGET TO CANCEL YOUR DIRECT DEBIT.
UTA
This isn't about supporting through thick and thin.
The point is that a lot of fans think it could be a whole lot better using the same players that are available to Oscar.
Where have you been?
We have had injury problems all season.
Kaz & Buckley struggle to play a whole match.
Orlandi rarely available for 2 consecutive matches.
Oscar has to juggle with the available resources.
Perhaps he felt Buckley & March would have more impact in 2nd half.
You cannot compare the Albion with Burnley,
Burnley have had the good fortune of having a full squad to choose from all season
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jockithenoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vince[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: The decision not to start with one wide player yesterday seems a little bit puzzling but with both Lingard and David both able to get wide, it's not as though we didn't have anyone to pop a few crosses in. We often hear, after the event, why a certain player didn't make the team sheet, a knock that we didn't know about, and that is understandable, but I would love to know what the thinking was re yesterday's line up considering who we had on the bench. We were at home, we were in a six pointer match, a result was wanted by both sides and Oscar sent out an eleven that he thought could get the points. On Tuesday we will be in the exact same position so do we expect Oscar to send out the same eleven, (Dunk in for Greer), or perhaps I should ask, will Oscar's pre match thinking be the same, we start without a wide player. If Oscar changes things for the visit of QPR, is that a tacit admission that he got it wrong against Reading or, is he expecting QPR to offer a different challenge than that we faced from Reading. We went 50 minutes with eleven on the park and didn't score, that might suggest that the plan didn't work. It might seem that I am having a pop at Oscar, and for once perhaps I am, but what I am really trying to do is to get some idea of what Oscar's thinking was, what was the expected gain from deciding not to start with one wide player, even if Lingard and David can get wide. Anyone got any thoughts?[/p][/quote]Vegas, My companions and I remarked before play started when the teams were announced that the subs bench was much stronger than many of the starting 11 (e.g. Andrews, Forster Caskey and Lopez). When Buckley and March came on for the latter two players, we absolutely murdered their defence, and at last looked a potent attacking force - even with 10 men (AND at a time when Reading had the massive boost of seeing us go down to 10 men which put a spring in their heels and which saw them immediately go flat out for a victory). And Ulloa now started to get interested when he at last had some proper support. It baffles me and many Albion supporters that Oscar continues to leave our game-changing players on the bench and is content to see us play the negative, containing game in the first half of most of our home games. Once we went 1-0 up (rather fortuitously) Reading were there for the taking. Oscar should have gone for the jugular at that point by bringing on Buckley (who was running up and down the touchline - clearly wanting to get in on the action) - Brighton had no attacking width in the first half - and Solly March on the left flank to really stretch them. Reading would not have come back from 2-0 down - and we may have ended up scoring 4. It baffles me that Oscar lacks that "killer" instinct to really capitalise on our home games - by getting on top from the outset - rather than allowing games to drift on in the same boring sideways, backwards passing movements - often handing the initiative to the away teams to push higher up the field and press us. Barnsley were a prime example of this - and got their only away win of the season against us. Against Reading in the first half - we seemed to have no attacking fluency or plan. It was really awful. Andrews, Lopez, Ward and Greer and even our new forward Lindegard gave the ball away far too easily in the first half and we were lucky to be leading 1-0 at half time. That we were ahead was due to some good defensive work by our back 4 and some dreadful finishing by Reading as well as the own-goal. I'm afraid if we don't make the play-offs this season - it will IMHO be largely down to Oscar and his negative tactics. When he did play an attacking line-up from the start - like against Wigan - we absolutely murdered them - and it was an absolute travesty that they scored one fluke and another from a corner when Brighton ran them ragged getting 20 shots on target to their 2. Wigan were ecstatic to beat us, and their manager said how lucky they were to keep us out. Wigan have just beaten Man-city to reach the semi-finals - where Albion should be if Oscar had played our strongest team against Hull - with a home quarter final v Sunderland in prospect (who looked very ordinary today) - and a semi-final against Sheffield-United and a great chance of meeting Wigan or Arsenal at Wembley in the final. The revenue that this would have brought in would have matched the money we got for Bridcutt. TO SUMMARISE:- I FEEL SO FRUSTRATED .BY THE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES CAUSED BY OSCARS TACTICS I COULD CRY!!!!! WHEN WILL WE EVER GET A BETTER CHANCE TO GET TO ANOTHER WEMBLEY FINAL THAN THIS YEAR????? PROBABLY NOT IN MY LIFETIME. I REALLY FEEL LIKE PACKING IN MY SUPPORT OF THE ALBION - AT SUCH NEGATIVITY AND CAUTION.[/p][/quote]Bye bye then !!!!!!! TRUE SUPPORTERS THICK AND THIN THE GOOD TIMES AND THE BAD FFS PULL YOU'RE SOCKS AND STOP F@#@*! G MOANING . DON'T FORGET TO CANCEL YOUR DIRECT DEBIT. UTA[/p][/quote]This isn't about supporting through thick and thin. The point is that a lot of fans think it could be a whole lot better using the same players that are available to Oscar.[/p][/quote]Where have you been? We have had injury problems all season. Kaz & Buckley struggle to play a whole match. Orlandi rarely available for 2 consecutive matches. Oscar has to juggle with the available resources. Perhaps he felt Buckley & March would have more impact in 2nd half. You cannot compare the Albion with Burnley, Burnley have had the good fortune of having a full squad to choose from all season OldGull
  • Score: 10

12:25am Mon 10 Mar 14

gordongull says...

OldGull wrote:
gordongull wrote:
jockithenoo wrote:
Vince wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
The decision not to start with one wide player yesterday seems a little bit puzzling but with both Lingard and David both able to get wide, it's not as though we didn't have anyone to pop a few crosses in. We often hear, after the event, why a certain player didn't make the team sheet, a knock that we didn't know about, and that is understandable, but I would love to know what the thinking was re yesterday's line up considering who we had on the bench. We were at home, we were in a six pointer match, a result was wanted by both sides and Oscar sent out an eleven that he thought could get the points. On Tuesday we will be in the exact same position so do we expect Oscar to send out the same eleven, (Dunk in for Greer), or perhaps I should ask, will Oscar's pre match thinking be the same, we start without a wide player. If Oscar changes things for the visit of QPR, is that a tacit admission that he got it wrong against Reading or, is he expecting QPR to offer a different challenge than that we faced from Reading. We went 50 minutes with eleven on the park and didn't score, that might suggest that the plan didn't work. It might seem that I am having a pop at Oscar, and for once perhaps I am, but what I am really trying to do is to get some idea of what Oscar's thinking was, what was the expected gain from deciding not to start with one wide player, even if Lingard and David can get wide. Anyone got any thoughts?
Vegas,

My companions and I remarked before play started when the teams were announced that the subs bench was much stronger than many of the starting 11 (e.g. Andrews, Forster Caskey and Lopez). When Buckley and March came on for the latter two players, we absolutely murdered their defence, and at last looked a potent attacking force - even with 10 men (AND at a time when Reading had the massive boost of seeing us go down to 10 men which put a spring in their heels and which saw them immediately go flat out for a victory). And Ulloa now started to get interested when he at last had some proper support.

It baffles me and many Albion supporters that Oscar continues to leave our game-changing players on the bench and is content to see us play the negative, containing game in the first half of most of our home games.

Once we went 1-0 up (rather fortuitously) Reading were there for the taking. Oscar should have gone for the jugular at that point by bringing on Buckley (who was running up and down the touchline - clearly wanting to get in on the action) - Brighton had no attacking width in the first half - and Solly March on the left flank to really stretch them. Reading would not have come back from 2-0 down - and we may have ended up scoring 4.

It baffles me that Oscar lacks that "killer" instinct to really capitalise on our home games - by getting on top from the outset - rather than allowing games to drift on in the same boring sideways, backwards passing movements - often handing the initiative to the away teams to push higher up the field and press us. Barnsley were a prime example of this - and got their only away win of the season against us.

Against Reading in the first half - we seemed to have no attacking fluency or plan. It was really awful. Andrews, Lopez, Ward and Greer and even our new forward Lindegard gave the ball away far too easily in the first half and we were lucky to be leading 1-0 at half time. That we were ahead was due to some good defensive work by our back 4 and some dreadful finishing by Reading as well as the own-goal.

I'm afraid if we don't make the play-offs this season - it will IMHO be largely down to Oscar and his negative tactics. When he did play an attacking line-up from the start - like against Wigan - we absolutely murdered them - and it was an absolute travesty that they scored one fluke and another from a corner when Brighton ran them ragged getting 20 shots on target to their 2. Wigan were ecstatic to beat us, and their manager said how lucky they were to keep us out. Wigan have just beaten Man-city to reach the semi-finals - where Albion should be if Oscar had played our strongest team against Hull - with a home quarter final v Sunderland in prospect (who looked very ordinary today) - and a semi-final against Sheffield-United and a great chance of meeting Wigan or Arsenal at Wembley in the final. The revenue that this would have brought in would have matched the money we got for Bridcutt.

TO SUMMARISE:- I FEEL SO FRUSTRATED .BY THE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES CAUSED BY OSCARS TACTICS I COULD CRY!!!!!

WHEN WILL WE EVER GET A BETTER CHANCE TO GET TO ANOTHER WEMBLEY FINAL THAN THIS YEAR????? PROBABLY NOT IN MY LIFETIME. I REALLY FEEL LIKE PACKING IN MY SUPPORT OF THE ALBION - AT SUCH NEGATIVITY AND CAUTION.
Bye bye then !!!!!!!
TRUE SUPPORTERS THICK AND THIN THE GOOD TIMES AND THE BAD
FFS PULL YOU'RE SOCKS AND STOP F@#@*! G MOANING .
DON'T FORGET TO CANCEL YOUR DIRECT DEBIT.
UTA
This isn't about supporting through thick and thin.
The point is that a lot of fans think it could be a whole lot better using the same players that are available to Oscar.
Where have you been?
We have had injury problems all season.
Kaz & Buckley struggle to play a whole match.
Orlandi rarely available for 2 consecutive matches.
Oscar has to juggle with the available resources.
Perhaps he felt Buckley & March would have more impact in 2nd half.
You cannot compare the Albion with Burnley,
Burnley have had the good fortune of having a full squad to choose from all season
Oscar is quoted as saying ''I am obsessed to attack.''
I think something was lost in the translation, and what he actually said was ''I am obsessed not to lose''.

Btw I didn't mention Burnley.
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jockithenoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vince[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: The decision not to start with one wide player yesterday seems a little bit puzzling but with both Lingard and David both able to get wide, it's not as though we didn't have anyone to pop a few crosses in. We often hear, after the event, why a certain player didn't make the team sheet, a knock that we didn't know about, and that is understandable, but I would love to know what the thinking was re yesterday's line up considering who we had on the bench. We were at home, we were in a six pointer match, a result was wanted by both sides and Oscar sent out an eleven that he thought could get the points. On Tuesday we will be in the exact same position so do we expect Oscar to send out the same eleven, (Dunk in for Greer), or perhaps I should ask, will Oscar's pre match thinking be the same, we start without a wide player. If Oscar changes things for the visit of QPR, is that a tacit admission that he got it wrong against Reading or, is he expecting QPR to offer a different challenge than that we faced from Reading. We went 50 minutes with eleven on the park and didn't score, that might suggest that the plan didn't work. It might seem that I am having a pop at Oscar, and for once perhaps I am, but what I am really trying to do is to get some idea of what Oscar's thinking was, what was the expected gain from deciding not to start with one wide player, even if Lingard and David can get wide. Anyone got any thoughts?[/p][/quote]Vegas, My companions and I remarked before play started when the teams were announced that the subs bench was much stronger than many of the starting 11 (e.g. Andrews, Forster Caskey and Lopez). When Buckley and March came on for the latter two players, we absolutely murdered their defence, and at last looked a potent attacking force - even with 10 men (AND at a time when Reading had the massive boost of seeing us go down to 10 men which put a spring in their heels and which saw them immediately go flat out for a victory). And Ulloa now started to get interested when he at last had some proper support. It baffles me and many Albion supporters that Oscar continues to leave our game-changing players on the bench and is content to see us play the negative, containing game in the first half of most of our home games. Once we went 1-0 up (rather fortuitously) Reading were there for the taking. Oscar should have gone for the jugular at that point by bringing on Buckley (who was running up and down the touchline - clearly wanting to get in on the action) - Brighton had no attacking width in the first half - and Solly March on the left flank to really stretch them. Reading would not have come back from 2-0 down - and we may have ended up scoring 4. It baffles me that Oscar lacks that "killer" instinct to really capitalise on our home games - by getting on top from the outset - rather than allowing games to drift on in the same boring sideways, backwards passing movements - often handing the initiative to the away teams to push higher up the field and press us. Barnsley were a prime example of this - and got their only away win of the season against us. Against Reading in the first half - we seemed to have no attacking fluency or plan. It was really awful. Andrews, Lopez, Ward and Greer and even our new forward Lindegard gave the ball away far too easily in the first half and we were lucky to be leading 1-0 at half time. That we were ahead was due to some good defensive work by our back 4 and some dreadful finishing by Reading as well as the own-goal. I'm afraid if we don't make the play-offs this season - it will IMHO be largely down to Oscar and his negative tactics. When he did play an attacking line-up from the start - like against Wigan - we absolutely murdered them - and it was an absolute travesty that they scored one fluke and another from a corner when Brighton ran them ragged getting 20 shots on target to their 2. Wigan were ecstatic to beat us, and their manager said how lucky they were to keep us out. Wigan have just beaten Man-city to reach the semi-finals - where Albion should be if Oscar had played our strongest team against Hull - with a home quarter final v Sunderland in prospect (who looked very ordinary today) - and a semi-final against Sheffield-United and a great chance of meeting Wigan or Arsenal at Wembley in the final. The revenue that this would have brought in would have matched the money we got for Bridcutt. TO SUMMARISE:- I FEEL SO FRUSTRATED .BY THE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES CAUSED BY OSCARS TACTICS I COULD CRY!!!!! WHEN WILL WE EVER GET A BETTER CHANCE TO GET TO ANOTHER WEMBLEY FINAL THAN THIS YEAR????? PROBABLY NOT IN MY LIFETIME. I REALLY FEEL LIKE PACKING IN MY SUPPORT OF THE ALBION - AT SUCH NEGATIVITY AND CAUTION.[/p][/quote]Bye bye then !!!!!!! TRUE SUPPORTERS THICK AND THIN THE GOOD TIMES AND THE BAD FFS PULL YOU'RE SOCKS AND STOP F@#@*! G MOANING . DON'T FORGET TO CANCEL YOUR DIRECT DEBIT. UTA[/p][/quote]This isn't about supporting through thick and thin. The point is that a lot of fans think it could be a whole lot better using the same players that are available to Oscar.[/p][/quote]Where have you been? We have had injury problems all season. Kaz & Buckley struggle to play a whole match. Orlandi rarely available for 2 consecutive matches. Oscar has to juggle with the available resources. Perhaps he felt Buckley & March would have more impact in 2nd half. You cannot compare the Albion with Burnley, Burnley have had the good fortune of having a full squad to choose from all season[/p][/quote]Oscar is quoted as saying ''I am obsessed to attack.'' I think something was lost in the translation, and what he actually said was ''I am obsessed not to lose''. Btw I didn't mention Burnley. gordongull
  • Score: 1

12:25am Mon 10 Mar 14

Vince says...

OldGull wrote:
Vince wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote: The decision not to start with one wide player yesterday seems a little bit puzzling but with both Lingard and David both able to get wide, it's not as though we didn't have anyone to pop a few crosses in. We often hear, after the event, why a certain player didn't make the team sheet, a knock that we didn't know about, and that is understandable, but I would love to know what the thinking was re yesterday's line up considering who we had on the bench. We were at home, we were in a six pointer match, a result was wanted by both sides and Oscar sent out an eleven that he thought could get the points. On Tuesday we will be in the exact same position so do we expect Oscar to send out the same eleven, (Dunk in for Greer), or perhaps I should ask, will Oscar's pre match thinking be the same, we start without a wide player. If Oscar changes things for the visit of QPR, is that a tacit admission that he got it wrong against Reading or, is he expecting QPR to offer a different challenge than that we faced from Reading. We went 50 minutes with eleven on the park and didn't score, that might suggest that the plan didn't work. It might seem that I am having a pop at Oscar, and for once perhaps I am, but what I am really trying to do is to get some idea of what Oscar's thinking was, what was the expected gain from deciding not to start with one wide player, even if Lingard and David can get wide. Anyone got any thoughts?
Vegas, My companions and I remarked before play started when the teams were announced that the subs bench was much stronger than many of the starting 11 (e.g. Andrews, Forster Caskey and Lopez). When Buckley and March came on for the latter two players, we absolutely murdered their defence, and at last looked a potent attacking force - even with 10 men (AND at a time when Reading had the massive boost of seeing us go down to 10 men which put a spring in their heels and which saw them immediately go flat out for a victory). And Ulloa now started to get interested when he at last had some proper support. It baffles me and many Albion supporters that Oscar continues to leave our game-changing players on the bench and is content to see us play the negative, containing game in the first half of most of our home games. Once we went 1-0 up (rather fortuitously) Reading were there for the taking. Oscar should have gone for the jugular at that point by bringing on Buckley (who was running up and down the touchline - clearly wanting to get in on the action) - Brighton had no attacking width in the first half - and Solly March on the left flank to really stretch them. Reading would not have come back from 2-0 down - and we may have ended up scoring 4. It baffles me that Oscar lacks that "killer" instinct to really capitalise on our home games - by getting on top from the outset - rather than allowing games to drift on in the same boring sideways, backwards passing movements - often handing the initiative to the away teams to push higher up the field and press us. Barnsley were a prime example of this - and got their only away win of the season against us. Against Reading in the first half - we seemed to have no attacking fluency or plan. It was really awful. Andrews, Lopez, Ward and Greer and even our new forward Lindegard gave the ball away far too easily in the first half and we were lucky to be leading 1-0 at half time. That we were ahead was due to some good defensive work by our back 4 and some dreadful finishing by Reading as well as the own-goal. I'm afraid if we don't make the play-offs this season - it will IMHO be largely down to Oscar and his negative tactics. When he did play an attacking line-up from the start - like against Wigan - we absolutely murdered them - and it was an absolute travesty that they scored one fluke and another from a corner when Brighton ran them ragged getting 20 shots on target to their 2. Wigan were ecstatic to beat us, and their manager said how lucky they were to keep us out. Wigan have just beaten Man-city to reach the semi-finals - where Albion should be if Oscar had played our strongest team against Hull - with a home quarter final v Sunderland in prospect (who looked very ordinary today) - and a semi-final against Sheffield-United and a great chance of meeting Wigan or Arsenal at Wembley in the final. The revenue that this would have brought in would have matched the money we got for Bridcutt. TO SUMMARISE:- I FEEL SO FRUSTRATED .BY THE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES CAUSED BY OSCARS TACTICS I COULD CRY!!!!! WHEN WILL WE EVER GET A BETTER CHANCE TO GET TO ANOTHER WEMBLEY FINAL THAN THIS YEAR????? PROBABLY NOT IN MY LIFETIME. I REALLY FEEL LIKE PACKING IN MY SUPPORT OF THE ALBION - AT SUCH NEGATIVITY AND CAUTION.
" I REALLY FEEL LIKE PACKING IN MY SUPPORT OF THE ALBION "????? True supporter then!
FEEL LIKE....... NOT DO IT.....TURNIP HEAD!
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vince[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: The decision not to start with one wide player yesterday seems a little bit puzzling but with both Lingard and David both able to get wide, it's not as though we didn't have anyone to pop a few crosses in. We often hear, after the event, why a certain player didn't make the team sheet, a knock that we didn't know about, and that is understandable, but I would love to know what the thinking was re yesterday's line up considering who we had on the bench. We were at home, we were in a six pointer match, a result was wanted by both sides and Oscar sent out an eleven that he thought could get the points. On Tuesday we will be in the exact same position so do we expect Oscar to send out the same eleven, (Dunk in for Greer), or perhaps I should ask, will Oscar's pre match thinking be the same, we start without a wide player. If Oscar changes things for the visit of QPR, is that a tacit admission that he got it wrong against Reading or, is he expecting QPR to offer a different challenge than that we faced from Reading. We went 50 minutes with eleven on the park and didn't score, that might suggest that the plan didn't work. It might seem that I am having a pop at Oscar, and for once perhaps I am, but what I am really trying to do is to get some idea of what Oscar's thinking was, what was the expected gain from deciding not to start with one wide player, even if Lingard and David can get wide. Anyone got any thoughts?[/p][/quote]Vegas, My companions and I remarked before play started when the teams were announced that the subs bench was much stronger than many of the starting 11 (e.g. Andrews, Forster Caskey and Lopez). When Buckley and March came on for the latter two players, we absolutely murdered their defence, and at last looked a potent attacking force - even with 10 men (AND at a time when Reading had the massive boost of seeing us go down to 10 men which put a spring in their heels and which saw them immediately go flat out for a victory). And Ulloa now started to get interested when he at last had some proper support. It baffles me and many Albion supporters that Oscar continues to leave our game-changing players on the bench and is content to see us play the negative, containing game in the first half of most of our home games. Once we went 1-0 up (rather fortuitously) Reading were there for the taking. Oscar should have gone for the jugular at that point by bringing on Buckley (who was running up and down the touchline - clearly wanting to get in on the action) - Brighton had no attacking width in the first half - and Solly March on the left flank to really stretch them. Reading would not have come back from 2-0 down - and we may have ended up scoring 4. It baffles me that Oscar lacks that "killer" instinct to really capitalise on our home games - by getting on top from the outset - rather than allowing games to drift on in the same boring sideways, backwards passing movements - often handing the initiative to the away teams to push higher up the field and press us. Barnsley were a prime example of this - and got their only away win of the season against us. Against Reading in the first half - we seemed to have no attacking fluency or plan. It was really awful. Andrews, Lopez, Ward and Greer and even our new forward Lindegard gave the ball away far too easily in the first half and we were lucky to be leading 1-0 at half time. That we were ahead was due to some good defensive work by our back 4 and some dreadful finishing by Reading as well as the own-goal. I'm afraid if we don't make the play-offs this season - it will IMHO be largely down to Oscar and his negative tactics. When he did play an attacking line-up from the start - like against Wigan - we absolutely murdered them - and it was an absolute travesty that they scored one fluke and another from a corner when Brighton ran them ragged getting 20 shots on target to their 2. Wigan were ecstatic to beat us, and their manager said how lucky they were to keep us out. Wigan have just beaten Man-city to reach the semi-finals - where Albion should be if Oscar had played our strongest team against Hull - with a home quarter final v Sunderland in prospect (who looked very ordinary today) - and a semi-final against Sheffield-United and a great chance of meeting Wigan or Arsenal at Wembley in the final. The revenue that this would have brought in would have matched the money we got for Bridcutt. TO SUMMARISE:- I FEEL SO FRUSTRATED .BY THE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES CAUSED BY OSCARS TACTICS I COULD CRY!!!!! WHEN WILL WE EVER GET A BETTER CHANCE TO GET TO ANOTHER WEMBLEY FINAL THAN THIS YEAR????? PROBABLY NOT IN MY LIFETIME. I REALLY FEEL LIKE PACKING IN MY SUPPORT OF THE ALBION - AT SUCH NEGATIVITY AND CAUTION.[/p][/quote]" I REALLY FEEL LIKE PACKING IN MY SUPPORT OF THE ALBION "????? True supporter then![/p][/quote]FEEL LIKE....... NOT DO IT.....TURNIP HEAD! Vince
  • Score: 0

12:41am Mon 10 Mar 14

Vince says...

gordongull wrote:
jockithenoo wrote:
Vince wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote: The decision not to start with one wide player yesterday seems a little bit puzzling but with both Lingard and David both able to get wide, it's not as though we didn't have anyone to pop a few crosses in. We often hear, after the event, why a certain player didn't make the team sheet, a knock that we didn't know about, and that is understandable, but I would love to know what the thinking was re yesterday's line up considering who we had on the bench. We were at home, we were in a six pointer match, a result was wanted by both sides and Oscar sent out an eleven that he thought could get the points. On Tuesday we will be in the exact same position so do we expect Oscar to send out the same eleven, (Dunk in for Greer), or perhaps I should ask, will Oscar's pre match thinking be the same, we start without a wide player. If Oscar changes things for the visit of QPR, is that a tacit admission that he got it wrong against Reading or, is he expecting QPR to offer a different challenge than that we faced from Reading. We went 50 minutes with eleven on the park and didn't score, that might suggest that the plan didn't work. It might seem that I am having a pop at Oscar, and for once perhaps I am, but what I am really trying to do is to get some idea of what Oscar's thinking was, what was the expected gain from deciding not to start with one wide player, even if Lingard and David can get wide. Anyone got any thoughts?
Vegas, My companions and I remarked before play started when the teams were announced that the subs bench was much stronger than many of the starting 11 (e.g. Andrews, Forster Caskey and Lopez). When Buckley and March came on for the latter two players, we absolutely murdered their defence, and at last looked a potent attacking force - even with 10 men (AND at a time when Reading had the massive boost of seeing us go down to 10 men which put a spring in their heels and which saw them immediately go flat out for a victory). And Ulloa now started to get interested when he at last had some proper support. It baffles me and many Albion supporters that Oscar continues to leave our game-changing players on the bench and is content to see us play the negative, containing game in the first half of most of our home games. Once we went 1-0 up (rather fortuitously) Reading were there for the taking. Oscar should have gone for the jugular at that point by bringing on Buckley (who was running up and down the touchline - clearly wanting to get in on the action) - Brighton had no attacking width in the first half - and Solly March on the left flank to really stretch them. Reading would not have come back from 2-0 down - and we may have ended up scoring 4. It baffles me that Oscar lacks that "killer" instinct to really capitalise on our home games - by getting on top from the outset - rather than allowing games to drift on in the same boring sideways, backwards passing movements - often handing the initiative to the away teams to push higher up the field and press us. Barnsley were a prime example of this - and got their only away win of the season against us. Against Reading in the first half - we seemed to have no attacking fluency or plan. It was really awful. Andrews, Lopez, Ward and Greer and even our new forward Lindegard gave the ball away far too easily in the first half and we were lucky to be leading 1-0 at half time. That we were ahead was due to some good defensive work by our back 4 and some dreadful finishing by Reading as well as the own-goal. I'm afraid if we don't make the play-offs this season - it will IMHO be largely down to Oscar and his negative tactics. When he did play an attacking line-up from the start - like against Wigan - we absolutely murdered them - and it was an absolute travesty that they scored one fluke and another from a corner when Brighton ran them ragged getting 20 shots on target to their 2. Wigan were ecstatic to beat us, and their manager said how lucky they were to keep us out. Wigan have just beaten Man-city to reach the semi-finals - where Albion should be if Oscar had played our strongest team against Hull - with a home quarter final v Sunderland in prospect (who looked very ordinary today) - and a semi-final against Sheffield-United and a great chance of meeting Wigan or Arsenal at Wembley in the final. The revenue that this would have brought in would have matched the money we got for Bridcutt. TO SUMMARISE:- I FEEL SO FRUSTRATED .BY THE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES CAUSED BY OSCARS TACTICS I COULD CRY!!!!! WHEN WILL WE EVER GET A BETTER CHANCE TO GET TO ANOTHER WEMBLEY FINAL THAN THIS YEAR????? PROBABLY NOT IN MY LIFETIME. I REALLY FEEL LIKE PACKING IN MY SUPPORT OF THE ALBION - AT SUCH NEGATIVITY AND CAUTION.
Bye bye then !!!!!!! TRUE SUPPORTERS THICK AND THIN THE GOOD TIMES AND THE BAD FFS PULL YOU'RE SOCKS AND STOP F@#@*! G MOANING . DON'T FORGET TO CANCEL YOUR DIRECT DEBIT. UTA
This isn't about supporting through thick and thin. The point is that a lot of fans think it could be a whole lot better using the same players that are available to Oscar.
TRUE SUPPORTERS ARE ENTITLED TO GIVE VENT TO THEIR FEELINGS.
IT'S ONLY THE LUKEWARM SUPPORTERS WHO DONT PROTEST.
ITS BECAUSE I CARE PASSIONATELY ABOUT THE ALBION THAT I SPEAK UP WHEN OTHERS CAN'T BE BOTHERED. I COULD NEVER GIVE UP SUPPORTING THE ALBION WHO'VE BEEN IN MY BLOOD FOR 60 YEARS NOW.

REMEMBER, SUPPORTERS AGREED TO BOYCOTT MATCHES WHEN ARCHER AND BELLOTTI WERE RUINING THE CLUB.

OSCAR HAS DONE WELL IN COPING WITH ALL THE INJURIES THIS SEASON. BUT HE DID HAVE PLAYERS AVAILABLE ON THE BENCH WHO HE COULD AND SHOULD HAVE USED IN RECENT MATCHES AGAINST HULL AND READING. WHY LEAVE BRUNO AND GREER ON THE BENCH WHEN HULL WERE ALL OVER US IN THE LAST 20 MINUTES OF OUR OMPORTANT CUP TIE. WE THEN HAD AN UNWANTED AND UNECESSARY REPLAY AT HULL.

SUPPORTERS HAVE A RIGHT TO THEIR OPINIONS - THAT IS TRUE SUPPORT.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jockithenoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vince[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: The decision not to start with one wide player yesterday seems a little bit puzzling but with both Lingard and David both able to get wide, it's not as though we didn't have anyone to pop a few crosses in. We often hear, after the event, why a certain player didn't make the team sheet, a knock that we didn't know about, and that is understandable, but I would love to know what the thinking was re yesterday's line up considering who we had on the bench. We were at home, we were in a six pointer match, a result was wanted by both sides and Oscar sent out an eleven that he thought could get the points. On Tuesday we will be in the exact same position so do we expect Oscar to send out the same eleven, (Dunk in for Greer), or perhaps I should ask, will Oscar's pre match thinking be the same, we start without a wide player. If Oscar changes things for the visit of QPR, is that a tacit admission that he got it wrong against Reading or, is he expecting QPR to offer a different challenge than that we faced from Reading. We went 50 minutes with eleven on the park and didn't score, that might suggest that the plan didn't work. It might seem that I am having a pop at Oscar, and for once perhaps I am, but what I am really trying to do is to get some idea of what Oscar's thinking was, what was the expected gain from deciding not to start with one wide player, even if Lingard and David can get wide. Anyone got any thoughts?[/p][/quote]Vegas, My companions and I remarked before play started when the teams were announced that the subs bench was much stronger than many of the starting 11 (e.g. Andrews, Forster Caskey and Lopez). When Buckley and March came on for the latter two players, we absolutely murdered their defence, and at last looked a potent attacking force - even with 10 men (AND at a time when Reading had the massive boost of seeing us go down to 10 men which put a spring in their heels and which saw them immediately go flat out for a victory). And Ulloa now started to get interested when he at last had some proper support. It baffles me and many Albion supporters that Oscar continues to leave our game-changing players on the bench and is content to see us play the negative, containing game in the first half of most of our home games. Once we went 1-0 up (rather fortuitously) Reading were there for the taking. Oscar should have gone for the jugular at that point by bringing on Buckley (who was running up and down the touchline - clearly wanting to get in on the action) - Brighton had no attacking width in the first half - and Solly March on the left flank to really stretch them. Reading would not have come back from 2-0 down - and we may have ended up scoring 4. It baffles me that Oscar lacks that "killer" instinct to really capitalise on our home games - by getting on top from the outset - rather than allowing games to drift on in the same boring sideways, backwards passing movements - often handing the initiative to the away teams to push higher up the field and press us. Barnsley were a prime example of this - and got their only away win of the season against us. Against Reading in the first half - we seemed to have no attacking fluency or plan. It was really awful. Andrews, Lopez, Ward and Greer and even our new forward Lindegard gave the ball away far too easily in the first half and we were lucky to be leading 1-0 at half time. That we were ahead was due to some good defensive work by our back 4 and some dreadful finishing by Reading as well as the own-goal. I'm afraid if we don't make the play-offs this season - it will IMHO be largely down to Oscar and his negative tactics. When he did play an attacking line-up from the start - like against Wigan - we absolutely murdered them - and it was an absolute travesty that they scored one fluke and another from a corner when Brighton ran them ragged getting 20 shots on target to their 2. Wigan were ecstatic to beat us, and their manager said how lucky they were to keep us out. Wigan have just beaten Man-city to reach the semi-finals - where Albion should be if Oscar had played our strongest team against Hull - with a home quarter final v Sunderland in prospect (who looked very ordinary today) - and a semi-final against Sheffield-United and a great chance of meeting Wigan or Arsenal at Wembley in the final. The revenue that this would have brought in would have matched the money we got for Bridcutt. TO SUMMARISE:- I FEEL SO FRUSTRATED .BY THE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES CAUSED BY OSCARS TACTICS I COULD CRY!!!!! WHEN WILL WE EVER GET A BETTER CHANCE TO GET TO ANOTHER WEMBLEY FINAL THAN THIS YEAR????? PROBABLY NOT IN MY LIFETIME. I REALLY FEEL LIKE PACKING IN MY SUPPORT OF THE ALBION - AT SUCH NEGATIVITY AND CAUTION.[/p][/quote]Bye bye then !!!!!!! TRUE SUPPORTERS THICK AND THIN THE GOOD TIMES AND THE BAD FFS PULL YOU'RE SOCKS AND STOP F@#@*! G MOANING . DON'T FORGET TO CANCEL YOUR DIRECT DEBIT. UTA[/p][/quote]This isn't about supporting through thick and thin. The point is that a lot of fans think it could be a whole lot better using the same players that are available to Oscar.[/p][/quote]TRUE SUPPORTERS ARE ENTITLED TO GIVE VENT TO THEIR FEELINGS. IT'S ONLY THE LUKEWARM SUPPORTERS WHO DONT PROTEST. ITS BECAUSE I CARE PASSIONATELY ABOUT THE ALBION THAT I SPEAK UP WHEN OTHERS CAN'T BE BOTHERED. I COULD NEVER GIVE UP SUPPORTING THE ALBION WHO'VE BEEN IN MY BLOOD FOR 60 YEARS NOW. REMEMBER, SUPPORTERS AGREED TO BOYCOTT MATCHES WHEN ARCHER AND BELLOTTI WERE RUINING THE CLUB. OSCAR HAS DONE WELL IN COPING WITH ALL THE INJURIES THIS SEASON. BUT HE DID HAVE PLAYERS AVAILABLE ON THE BENCH WHO HE COULD AND SHOULD HAVE USED IN RECENT MATCHES AGAINST HULL AND READING. WHY LEAVE BRUNO AND GREER ON THE BENCH WHEN HULL WERE ALL OVER US IN THE LAST 20 MINUTES OF OUR OMPORTANT CUP TIE. WE THEN HAD AN UNWANTED AND UNECESSARY REPLAY AT HULL. SUPPORTERS HAVE A RIGHT TO THEIR OPINIONS - THAT IS TRUE SUPPORT. Vince
  • Score: -2

8:40am Mon 10 Mar 14

Aldrington Halt says...

All In!! Seagulls!!!!
All In!! Seagulls!!!! Aldrington Halt
  • Score: 0

9:11am Mon 10 Mar 14

dave from bexill says...

Vince, with respect, you can make your points without keep shouting at us. It's very rude. Thank you
Vince, with respect, you can make your points without keep shouting at us. It's very rude. Thank you dave from bexill
  • Score: 5

1:43pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

No Nigel, the important thing with the numerical advantage is not to avoid losing the game, it is to win the game! How unambitious are you?
I can't help thinking Reading have just missed the chance of the play-offs. They will have considered this as four vital points dropped that they could ill afford. They have Albion still just 2 behind them with a game in hand and Wigan already ahead with two games in hand. They've also missed the chance to make up ground on Forest.

Personally I don't see them going up. They have some good players but they don't know how best to use them. Much as I hate to admit it, I'm now thinking I've underestimated Burnley. Leicester are definitely getting promoted as champions and it looks like Burnley may get second spot. I would also fancy them in the play-offs if they did miss out on the top two. Looking at other sides, I would fancy us, Wigan and Derby over Reading in a play off match up. Reading have now failed to beat us three times out of three and we should have severely battered them in the FA Cup encounter in January.

Can you keep up, Nigel?!
No Nigel, the important thing with the numerical advantage is not to avoid losing the game, it is to win the game! How unambitious are you? I can't help thinking Reading have just missed the chance of the play-offs. They will have considered this as four vital points dropped that they could ill afford. They have Albion still just 2 behind them with a game in hand and Wigan already ahead with two games in hand. They've also missed the chance to make up ground on Forest. Personally I don't see them going up. They have some good players but they don't know how best to use them. Much as I hate to admit it, I'm now thinking I've underestimated Burnley. Leicester are definitely getting promoted as champions and it looks like Burnley may get second spot. I would also fancy them in the play-offs if they did miss out on the top two. Looking at other sides, I would fancy us, Wigan and Derby over Reading in a play off match up. Reading have now failed to beat us three times out of three and we should have severely battered them in the FA Cup encounter in January. Can you keep up, Nigel?! Captain Haddock
  • Score: 2

1:46pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

The Phantom wrote:
On a separate issue, just watched Burnley come from behind to win 2-1 at Blackburn. Absolutely amazing what Sean Dyche is achieving with a small squad with arguably less ability and less strength in depth than Brightons. Practically the same first X1 playing every game with passion, a positive intent and a will to win - no signs of tiredness so far and still going strong.
Yes indeed, hats off to him. Manager / coach of the season for me so far.
[quote][p][bold]The Phantom[/bold] wrote: On a separate issue, just watched Burnley come from behind to win 2-1 at Blackburn. Absolutely amazing what Sean Dyche is achieving with a small squad with arguably less ability and less strength in depth than Brightons. Practically the same first X1 playing every game with passion, a positive intent and a will to win - no signs of tiredness so far and still going strong.[/p][/quote]Yes indeed, hats off to him. Manager / coach of the season for me so far. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

5:54pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Reading fan in Brighton says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
No Nigel, the important thing with the numerical advantage is not to avoid losing the game, it is to win the game! How unambitious are you?
I can't help thinking Reading have just missed the chance of the play-offs. They will have considered this as four vital points dropped that they could ill afford. They have Albion still just 2 behind them with a game in hand and Wigan already ahead with two games in hand. They've also missed the chance to make up ground on Forest.

Personally I don't see them going up. They have some good players but they don't know how best to use them. Much as I hate to admit it, I'm now thinking I've underestimated Burnley. Leicester are definitely getting promoted as champions and it looks like Burnley may get second spot. I would also fancy them in the play-offs if they did miss out on the top two. Looking at other sides, I would fancy us, Wigan and Derby over Reading in a play off match up. Reading have now failed to beat us three times out of three and we should have severely battered them in the FA Cup encounter in January.

Can you keep up, Nigel?!
You do make me laugh fishbrain! Brighton haven't beaten Reading in the last NINE games played in the League!!! Our FA Cup team was full of reserves who certainly wouldn't play in a Play off game!
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: No Nigel, the important thing with the numerical advantage is not to avoid losing the game, it is to win the game! How unambitious are you? I can't help thinking Reading have just missed the chance of the play-offs. They will have considered this as four vital points dropped that they could ill afford. They have Albion still just 2 behind them with a game in hand and Wigan already ahead with two games in hand. They've also missed the chance to make up ground on Forest. Personally I don't see them going up. They have some good players but they don't know how best to use them. Much as I hate to admit it, I'm now thinking I've underestimated Burnley. Leicester are definitely getting promoted as champions and it looks like Burnley may get second spot. I would also fancy them in the play-offs if they did miss out on the top two. Looking at other sides, I would fancy us, Wigan and Derby over Reading in a play off match up. Reading have now failed to beat us three times out of three and we should have severely battered them in the FA Cup encounter in January. Can you keep up, Nigel?![/p][/quote]You do make me laugh fishbrain! Brighton haven't beaten Reading in the last NINE games played in the League!!! Our FA Cup team was full of reserves who certainly wouldn't play in a Play off game! Reading fan in Brighton
  • Score: 2

10:12pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

Reading fan in Brighton wrote:
Captain Haddock wrote: No Nigel, the important thing with the numerical advantage is not to avoid losing the game, it is to win the game! How unambitious are you? I can't help thinking Reading have just missed the chance of the play-offs. They will have considered this as four vital points dropped that they could ill afford. They have Albion still just 2 behind them with a game in hand and Wigan already ahead with two games in hand. They've also missed the chance to make up ground on Forest. Personally I don't see them going up. They have some good players but they don't know how best to use them. Much as I hate to admit it, I'm now thinking I've underestimated Burnley. Leicester are definitely getting promoted as champions and it looks like Burnley may get second spot. I would also fancy them in the play-offs if they did miss out on the top two. Looking at other sides, I would fancy us, Wigan and Derby over Reading in a play off match up. Reading have now failed to beat us three times out of three and we should have severely battered them in the FA Cup encounter in January. Can you keep up, Nigel?!
You do make me laugh fishbrain! Brighton haven't beaten Reading in the last NINE games played in the League!!! Our FA Cup team was full of reserves who certainly wouldn't play in a Play off game!
And you make me wretch, Birdbrain. Our FA Cup line-up was also full of reserves who wouldn't start in a play-off too. If we'd have beaten you 8-1 it wouldn't have flattered us that day.

As for the league, we may not have beaten you in nine games but you haven't exactly won loads either. You failed to beat us in both of this season's league matches, and the last time you beat us under Brian McDermott was the most incredibly jammy result in the history of the AMEX so far.

Anyway, continue with your delusions of grandeur, by all means. They amuse me.

As for this season's conclusion, maybe you'll go up, maybe we'll go up, maybe neither of us will go up, who knows? If it's us, you're very welcome to join in our party as you'll be nice and local for it.

Ta ta.
[quote][p][bold]Reading fan in Brighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: No Nigel, the important thing with the numerical advantage is not to avoid losing the game, it is to win the game! How unambitious are you? I can't help thinking Reading have just missed the chance of the play-offs. They will have considered this as four vital points dropped that they could ill afford. They have Albion still just 2 behind them with a game in hand and Wigan already ahead with two games in hand. They've also missed the chance to make up ground on Forest. Personally I don't see them going up. They have some good players but they don't know how best to use them. Much as I hate to admit it, I'm now thinking I've underestimated Burnley. Leicester are definitely getting promoted as champions and it looks like Burnley may get second spot. I would also fancy them in the play-offs if they did miss out on the top two. Looking at other sides, I would fancy us, Wigan and Derby over Reading in a play off match up. Reading have now failed to beat us three times out of three and we should have severely battered them in the FA Cup encounter in January. Can you keep up, Nigel?![/p][/quote]You do make me laugh fishbrain! Brighton haven't beaten Reading in the last NINE games played in the League!!! Our FA Cup team was full of reserves who certainly wouldn't play in a Play off game![/p][/quote]And you make me wretch, Birdbrain. Our FA Cup line-up was also full of reserves who wouldn't start in a play-off too. If we'd have beaten you 8-1 it wouldn't have flattered us that day. As for the league, we may not have beaten you in nine games but you haven't exactly won loads either. You failed to beat us in both of this season's league matches, and the last time you beat us under Brian McDermott was the most incredibly jammy result in the history of the AMEX so far. Anyway, continue with your delusions of grandeur, by all means. They amuse me. As for this season's conclusion, maybe you'll go up, maybe we'll go up, maybe neither of us will go up, who knows? If it's us, you're very welcome to join in our party as you'll be nice and local for it. Ta ta. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

10:15pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

By the way I gave you a thumbs up as you looked a bit lonely thumbing your own posts up there.
By the way I gave you a thumbs up as you looked a bit lonely thumbing your own posts up there. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 0

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