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Albion talking point: Has last night's win changed your opinion of where they will finish this season?

The Argus: Albion fans celebrate at the Amex last night Albion fans celebrate at the Amex last night

The Amex was buzzing again last night.

Albion fans got right behind their team as they stove to keep a lively and inventive QPR side at bay.

And they raised the roof in celebration of a dramatic 2-0 win.

The Seagulls were clinical, something Oscar Garcia has often asked them to be after previous games when they dominated possession and dropped points.

So has last night’s win helped convince you Albion can make the play-offs?

Or do you see it differently? Does the way they were pushed back for so long concern you?

Were you surprised and alarmed at how much of the play Harry Redknapp’s side enjoyed?

Or does winning in this style convince you Albion have what it takes to get into the top six?

We would love to know your thoughts.

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11:13am Wed 12 Mar 14

AlanDuffy says...

That's two games now where we've been outplayed and picked up 4 points, yet we dominated Wigan and lost - work that one out. Like Reading, QPR have a lot of skilful, quick forwards and attacking midfielders and we had to soak up a lot of pressure and ride our luck a little, but for me it just shows what a good job the coaching team are doing. Every time we lose there are idiots on here calling for the head of the manager and all-out attacking football, but Oscar has to work with what he's given. The fact that we are where we are is a testament to good management and tactical nouse. Of course, we all love to watch flowing football and plenty of goals, but my view is that if we'd played as many on here would want us to, we'd be in the bottom half of the table - scoring but losing - a bit like Peterborough - but as we know results are everything, witness the response of the fans last night after soaking up the pressure and nicking a couple of late goals. I think Oscar has done a tremendous job in a difficult first season and wish people would remember that when things don't go so well.
That's two games now where we've been outplayed and picked up 4 points, yet we dominated Wigan and lost - work that one out. Like Reading, QPR have a lot of skilful, quick forwards and attacking midfielders and we had to soak up a lot of pressure and ride our luck a little, but for me it just shows what a good job the coaching team are doing. Every time we lose there are idiots on here calling for the head of the manager and all-out attacking football, but Oscar has to work with what he's given. The fact that we are where we are is a testament to good management and tactical nouse. Of course, we all love to watch flowing football and plenty of goals, but my view is that if we'd played as many on here would want us to, we'd be in the bottom half of the table - scoring but losing - a bit like Peterborough - but as we know results are everything, witness the response of the fans last night after soaking up the pressure and nicking a couple of late goals. I think Oscar has done a tremendous job in a difficult first season and wish people would remember that when things don't go so well. AlanDuffy
  • Score: 65

11:29am Wed 12 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

As the pundits, managers and players all say, 'there will be a few twists and turns before this season is over,' and last night's result might be seen as one of them.
What Brighton did last night was to stop a very good side from scoring, but we have done that a few times already this season, the big difference was that we put away two of the few chances we got, our finishing was spot on.
If we continue to be solid at the back, at home or away, a point will be up for grabs every time we take to the field. Converting a single point to three will require the front end of our game to become as consistent as our defense, and if that happens, we are in the play offs. We don't need to win every match, a twist or turn might hit us somewhere along the road, we just need to win enough to get us over the line.

To be honest I thought we would just miss out on a top six spot but today I can see it happening. Getting a great result last night helped in our quest, but the drop off in form of both QPR and Forest, has made our task a tad easier. Our squad is getting stronger, long term injured are coming back and others with less severe injuries are also just about ready for a return, this will help.

Not counting cup matches, over 460,000 seats have been filled at the Amex, with a small percentage of that number being visitors, if that continues, which it will, the fans alone will be worth a point or two.
As the pundits, managers and players all say, 'there will be a few twists and turns before this season is over,' and last night's result might be seen as one of them. What Brighton did last night was to stop a very good side from scoring, but we have done that a few times already this season, the big difference was that we put away two of the few chances we got, our finishing was spot on. If we continue to be solid at the back, at home or away, a point will be up for grabs every time we take to the field. Converting a single point to three will require the front end of our game to become as consistent as our defense, and if that happens, we are in the play offs. We don't need to win every match, a twist or turn might hit us somewhere along the road, we just need to win enough to get us over the line. To be honest I thought we would just miss out on a top six spot but today I can see it happening. Getting a great result last night helped in our quest, but the drop off in form of both QPR and Forest, has made our task a tad easier. Our squad is getting stronger, long term injured are coming back and others with less severe injuries are also just about ready for a return, this will help. Not counting cup matches, over 460,000 seats have been filled at the Amex, with a small percentage of that number being visitors, if that continues, which it will, the fans alone will be worth a point or two. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 9

11:30am Wed 12 Mar 14

Mark Dixon says...

Outplayed or not we still got the three points last night.

In my opinion l don't think we will reach the play off's for three reasons.

1. Too many drawn games especially at home.

2. Long term injuries of strikers.

3. Strikers we have had on loan just have not cut it, Rodrigues has done nothing really and the only time l saw the name Lingard's name on Sky Sports Live was when he committed a foul.
Outplayed or not we still got the three points last night. In my opinion l don't think we will reach the play off's for three reasons. 1. Too many drawn games especially at home. 2. Long term injuries of strikers. 3. Strikers we have had on loan just have not cut it, Rodrigues has done nothing really and the only time l saw the name Lingard's name on Sky Sports Live was when he committed a foul. Mark Dixon
  • Score: -30

11:41am Wed 12 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

Mark Dixon wrote:
Outplayed or not we still got the three points last night.

In my opinion l don't think we will reach the play off's for three reasons.

1. Too many drawn games especially at home.

2. Long term injuries of strikers.

3. Strikers we have had on loan just have not cut it, Rodrigues has done nothing really and the only time l saw the name Lingard's name on Sky Sports Live was when he committed a foul.
I respect your opinion but your three points are all about yesterday and not tomorrow.

Yes too many drawn games but there are still enough matches to come to get us over the line.
Yes long term injuries to strikers but CMS and Hoskins are just about to return.
Yes loanees have not produced, but for what ever reasons we really didn't use them. Lingard has only just arrived, far too early to access what impact he will have as our season goes forward.

You are right about yesterday, but with respect, I think you are writing off tomorrow too easily.
[quote][p][bold]Mark Dixon[/bold] wrote: Outplayed or not we still got the three points last night. In my opinion l don't think we will reach the play off's for three reasons. 1. Too many drawn games especially at home. 2. Long term injuries of strikers. 3. Strikers we have had on loan just have not cut it, Rodrigues has done nothing really and the only time l saw the name Lingard's name on Sky Sports Live was when he committed a foul.[/p][/quote]I respect your opinion but your three points are all about yesterday and not tomorrow. Yes too many drawn games but there are still enough matches to come to get us over the line. Yes long term injuries to strikers but CMS and Hoskins are just about to return. Yes loanees have not produced, but for what ever reasons we really didn't use them. Lingard has only just arrived, far too early to access what impact he will have as our season goes forward. You are right about yesterday, but with respect, I think you are writing off tomorrow too easily. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 23

11:57am Wed 12 Mar 14

Quiterie says...

For me it's very simple. If we carry on playing as we have (which is a very decent standard, but not quite promotion form), I think we'll come up just short. But if Lingard starts knocking them in as he did for Birmingham that will make all the difference and we'll make the pay-offs. One player can make all the difference. Look at Derby..... they were flying when Patrick Bamford was knocking them in. Now he's lost a bit of form they haven't scored in 3 games.
For me it's very simple. If we carry on playing as we have (which is a very decent standard, but not quite promotion form), I think we'll come up just short. But if Lingard starts knocking them in as he did for Birmingham that will make all the difference and we'll make the pay-offs. One player can make all the difference. Look at Derby..... they were flying when Patrick Bamford was knocking them in. Now he's lost a bit of form they haven't scored in 3 games. Quiterie
  • Score: 14

12:27pm Wed 12 Mar 14

OldGull says...

Last night we were playing a team that cost untold millions with plenty of prem experience.
Whilst QPR had 55% of possesion , It would be wrong to say they controlled the game. If anything our defence controlled it.
Admittedly we did not offer a lot of attacking threat in the 1st hour, but once Kaz came on we were the better side .
We are now only 3 points behind Forest with a game in hand.
It could just be we go up there on the last day of the season knowing a win would clinch a play off spot.
Unlike many on here, considering our Injury problems this year I feel we have done well.
Also remember a top 10 finish equates to our 10th highest position in our history
Last night we were playing a team that cost untold millions with plenty of prem experience. Whilst QPR had 55% of possesion , It would be wrong to say they controlled the game. If anything our defence controlled it. Admittedly we did not offer a lot of attacking threat in the 1st hour, but once Kaz came on we were the better side . We are now only 3 points behind Forest with a game in hand. It could just be we go up there on the last day of the season knowing a win would clinch a play off spot. Unlike many on here, considering our Injury problems this year I feel we have done well. Also remember a top 10 finish equates to our 10th highest position in our history OldGull
  • Score: 19

12:39pm Wed 12 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

OldGull wrote:
Last night we were playing a team that cost untold millions with plenty of prem experience.
Whilst QPR had 55% of possesion , It would be wrong to say they controlled the game. If anything our defence controlled it.
Admittedly we did not offer a lot of attacking threat in the 1st hour, but once Kaz came on we were the better side .
We are now only 3 points behind Forest with a game in hand.
It could just be we go up there on the last day of the season knowing a win would clinch a play off spot.
Unlike many on here, considering our Injury problems this year I feel we have done well.
Also remember a top 10 finish equates to our 10th highest position in our history
For me the season has gone well considering all the hurdles we have had to get over, and from now on all matches will be tough but getting over those hurdles might help us as we go on. If we can get to where we are after having so many setbacks, the now healing squad can only be a plus, and the more options available to Oscar the better.

Tough away match coming up, Bolton are having a good run and I expect a battle. Oscar will need to get the guys down from cloud nine after last night's result and have them ready to do it all over again.
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: Last night we were playing a team that cost untold millions with plenty of prem experience. Whilst QPR had 55% of possesion , It would be wrong to say they controlled the game. If anything our defence controlled it. Admittedly we did not offer a lot of attacking threat in the 1st hour, but once Kaz came on we were the better side . We are now only 3 points behind Forest with a game in hand. It could just be we go up there on the last day of the season knowing a win would clinch a play off spot. Unlike many on here, considering our Injury problems this year I feel we have done well. Also remember a top 10 finish equates to our 10th highest position in our history[/p][/quote]For me the season has gone well considering all the hurdles we have had to get over, and from now on all matches will be tough but getting over those hurdles might help us as we go on. If we can get to where we are after having so many setbacks, the now healing squad can only be a plus, and the more options available to Oscar the better. Tough away match coming up, Bolton are having a good run and I expect a battle. Oscar will need to get the guys down from cloud nine after last night's result and have them ready to do it all over again. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 10

12:44pm Wed 12 Mar 14

TheWerewolf says...

Quiterie wrote:
For me it's very simple. If we carry on playing as we have (which is a very decent standard, but not quite promotion form), I think we'll come up just short. But if Lingard starts knocking them in as he did for Birmingham that will make all the difference and we'll make the pay-offs. One player can make all the difference. Look at Derby..... they were flying when Patrick Bamford was knocking them in. Now he's lost a bit of form they haven't scored in 3 games.
Agree Quiterie - I'm far more optimistic about Lingard than many on here and NSC. He was close to very good last night. Several times he tried passes others don't try which nearly came off, but didn't. On another day he will be a hero. Give the guy a chance. Too many here willing to shoot people down before they have a real chance. Very skillful and has a turn of speed. Was closed down by 2 / 3 players whenever he got the ball last night. With the opposition looking easier over the next 12 games (bar a couple) he could well shine....Much more optimistic after last night. We deserved at least a draw. Don't be fooled by the BBC stats. Many were from distance and easily dealt with. Lost my voice a bit this morning after the last 15mins last night though! UTA
[quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: For me it's very simple. If we carry on playing as we have (which is a very decent standard, but not quite promotion form), I think we'll come up just short. But if Lingard starts knocking them in as he did for Birmingham that will make all the difference and we'll make the pay-offs. One player can make all the difference. Look at Derby..... they were flying when Patrick Bamford was knocking them in. Now he's lost a bit of form they haven't scored in 3 games.[/p][/quote]Agree Quiterie - I'm far more optimistic about Lingard than many on here and NSC. He was close to very good last night. Several times he tried passes others don't try which nearly came off, but didn't. On another day he will be a hero. Give the guy a chance. Too many here willing to shoot people down before they have a real chance. Very skillful and has a turn of speed. Was closed down by 2 / 3 players whenever he got the ball last night. With the opposition looking easier over the next 12 games (bar a couple) he could well shine....Much more optimistic after last night. We deserved at least a draw. Don't be fooled by the BBC stats. Many were from distance and easily dealt with. Lost my voice a bit this morning after the last 15mins last night though! UTA TheWerewolf
  • Score: 15

12:47pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Claude Back says...

AlanDuffy wrote:
That's two games now where we've been outplayed and picked up 4 points, yet we dominated Wigan and lost - work that one out. Like Reading, QPR have a lot of skilful, quick forwards and attacking midfielders and we had to soak up a lot of pressure and ride our luck a little, but for me it just shows what a good job the coaching team are doing. Every time we lose there are idiots on here calling for the head of the manager and all-out attacking football, but Oscar has to work with what he's given. The fact that we are where we are is a testament to good management and tactical nouse. Of course, we all love to watch flowing football and plenty of goals, but my view is that if we'd played as many on here would want us to, we'd be in the bottom half of the table - scoring but losing - a bit like Peterborough - but as we know results are everything, witness the response of the fans last night after soaking up the pressure and nicking a couple of late goals. I think Oscar has done a tremendous job in a difficult first season and wish people would remember that when things don't go so well.
I disagree, Alan and your statement is flawed. However, because I do not agree does not make me an idiot or lacking knowledge about football as you suggest.
Have we as good a team as last year? No.
Has Oscar improved the team? No.
Has Oscar recruited the best players he could? No.
Has his team selection been correct in most games? No.
Do most of us (that actually go) suspect wecould have done a lot better than we have done if we had not been so defensive until the second half? Yes.
[quote][p][bold]AlanDuffy[/bold] wrote: That's two games now where we've been outplayed and picked up 4 points, yet we dominated Wigan and lost - work that one out. Like Reading, QPR have a lot of skilful, quick forwards and attacking midfielders and we had to soak up a lot of pressure and ride our luck a little, but for me it just shows what a good job the coaching team are doing. Every time we lose there are idiots on here calling for the head of the manager and all-out attacking football, but Oscar has to work with what he's given. The fact that we are where we are is a testament to good management and tactical nouse. Of course, we all love to watch flowing football and plenty of goals, but my view is that if we'd played as many on here would want us to, we'd be in the bottom half of the table - scoring but losing - a bit like Peterborough - but as we know results are everything, witness the response of the fans last night after soaking up the pressure and nicking a couple of late goals. I think Oscar has done a tremendous job in a difficult first season and wish people would remember that when things don't go so well.[/p][/quote]I disagree, Alan and your statement is flawed. However, because I do not agree does not make me an idiot or lacking knowledge about football as you suggest. Have we as good a team as last year? No. Has Oscar improved the team? No. Has Oscar recruited the best players he could? No. Has his team selection been correct in most games? No. Do most of us (that actually go) suspect wecould have done a lot better than we have done if we had not been so defensive until the second half? Yes. Claude Back
  • Score: -12

12:50pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Jonathan Mouette says...

My opinion hasn't changed - I still think we'll make a top 6 finish but I'll admit confidence has been occasionally shaken. I've looked around at other contenders (not all but those close enough to cause trouble) and I'm really optimistic. Look at the run in for Wigan who will be playing 2 games a week from now on and still have to play 4 of the current top 6. And Forest coud match us all the way but look who we have to play on the last game of the season...!!! A 6 pointer in every sense of the term.
UTA Fingers crossed...!!!
My opinion hasn't changed - I still think we'll make a top 6 finish but I'll admit confidence has been occasionally shaken. I've looked around at other contenders (not all but those close enough to cause trouble) and I'm really optimistic. Look at the run in for Wigan who will be playing 2 games a week from now on and still have to play 4 of the current top 6. And Forest coud match us all the way but look who we have to play on the last game of the season...!!! A 6 pointer in every sense of the term. UTA Fingers crossed...!!! Jonathan Mouette
  • Score: 10

1:06pm Wed 12 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

Claude Back wrote:
AlanDuffy wrote:
That's two games now where we've been outplayed and picked up 4 points, yet we dominated Wigan and lost - work that one out. Like Reading, QPR have a lot of skilful, quick forwards and attacking midfielders and we had to soak up a lot of pressure and ride our luck a little, but for me it just shows what a good job the coaching team are doing. Every time we lose there are idiots on here calling for the head of the manager and all-out attacking football, but Oscar has to work with what he's given. The fact that we are where we are is a testament to good management and tactical nouse. Of course, we all love to watch flowing football and plenty of goals, but my view is that if we'd played as many on here would want us to, we'd be in the bottom half of the table - scoring but losing - a bit like Peterborough - but as we know results are everything, witness the response of the fans last night after soaking up the pressure and nicking a couple of late goals. I think Oscar has done a tremendous job in a difficult first season and wish people would remember that when things don't go so well.
I disagree, Alan and your statement is flawed. However, because I do not agree does not make me an idiot or lacking knowledge about football as you suggest.
Have we as good a team as last year? No.
Has Oscar improved the team? No.
Has Oscar recruited the best players he could? No.
Has his team selection been correct in most games? No.
Do most of us (that actually go) suspect wecould have done a lot better than we have done if we had not been so defensive until the second half? Yes.
Did Oscar have a less than an ideal pre-season preparation period? Yes.
Have we been plagued with injuries this season.? Yes.
Do we have 2 more points than we had at this time last year? Yes.
Are the FFP rules influencing our spending this year? Yes.
Have our younger players come on this year? Yes.
Are we maintaining our crowd numbers? Yes.
Are we looking good re season ticket sales for next year? Yes.
Is it easy to make a list of negative opinions? Yes.
Are opinions facts? No.
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlanDuffy[/bold] wrote: That's two games now where we've been outplayed and picked up 4 points, yet we dominated Wigan and lost - work that one out. Like Reading, QPR have a lot of skilful, quick forwards and attacking midfielders and we had to soak up a lot of pressure and ride our luck a little, but for me it just shows what a good job the coaching team are doing. Every time we lose there are idiots on here calling for the head of the manager and all-out attacking football, but Oscar has to work with what he's given. The fact that we are where we are is a testament to good management and tactical nouse. Of course, we all love to watch flowing football and plenty of goals, but my view is that if we'd played as many on here would want us to, we'd be in the bottom half of the table - scoring but losing - a bit like Peterborough - but as we know results are everything, witness the response of the fans last night after soaking up the pressure and nicking a couple of late goals. I think Oscar has done a tremendous job in a difficult first season and wish people would remember that when things don't go so well.[/p][/quote]I disagree, Alan and your statement is flawed. However, because I do not agree does not make me an idiot or lacking knowledge about football as you suggest. Have we as good a team as last year? No. Has Oscar improved the team? No. Has Oscar recruited the best players he could? No. Has his team selection been correct in most games? No. Do most of us (that actually go) suspect wecould have done a lot better than we have done if we had not been so defensive until the second half? Yes.[/p][/quote]Did Oscar have a less than an ideal pre-season preparation period? Yes. Have we been plagued with injuries this season.? Yes. Do we have 2 more points than we had at this time last year? Yes. Are the FFP rules influencing our spending this year? Yes. Have our younger players come on this year? Yes. Are we maintaining our crowd numbers? Yes. Are we looking good re season ticket sales for next year? Yes. Is it easy to make a list of negative opinions? Yes. Are opinions facts? No. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 39

1:21pm Wed 12 Mar 14

WestStander17 says...

Claude Back wrote:
AlanDuffy wrote:
That's two games now where we've been outplayed and picked up 4 points, yet we dominated Wigan and lost - work that one out. Like Reading, QPR have a lot of skilful, quick forwards and attacking midfielders and we had to soak up a lot of pressure and ride our luck a little, but for me it just shows what a good job the coaching team are doing. Every time we lose there are idiots on here calling for the head of the manager and all-out attacking football, but Oscar has to work with what he's given. The fact that we are where we are is a testament to good management and tactical nouse. Of course, we all love to watch flowing football and plenty of goals, but my view is that if we'd played as many on here would want us to, we'd be in the bottom half of the table - scoring but losing - a bit like Peterborough - but as we know results are everything, witness the response of the fans last night after soaking up the pressure and nicking a couple of late goals. I think Oscar has done a tremendous job in a difficult first season and wish people would remember that when things don't go so well.
I disagree, Alan and your statement is flawed. However, because I do not agree does not make me an idiot or lacking knowledge about football as you suggest.
Have we as good a team as last year? No.
Has Oscar improved the team? No.
Has Oscar recruited the best players he could? No.
Has his team selection been correct in most games? No.
Do most of us (that actually go) suspect wecould have done a lot better than we have done if we had not been so defensive until the second half? Yes.
Have we as good a team as last year? No. Taking Bridcutt out of any Championship team weakens it. Plus, injuries haven't helped.
Has Oscar improved the team? In some ways. We pressure the ball higher up the pitch better now. It was always going to be very difficult to improve on 4th without spending too much. Gus knew that.
Has Oscar recruited the best players he could? We don't know who he has had the possibility of signing. If he had the choice of Obika or Guidetti for the same cost, no. But I doubt he did!
Has his team selection been correct in most games? We'll never know! Different selections may have changed results but not always for the better.
Do most of us (that actually go) suspect wecould have done a lot better than we have done if we had not been so defensive until the second half? Maybe most suspect it but doesn't mean they are right! It means we have a decent chance against every team in the division as all games are close. Can't be a bad thing.

On a completely different note, I saw a kid with "Obika - 22" on his shirt last night! I blame the parents!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlanDuffy[/bold] wrote: That's two games now where we've been outplayed and picked up 4 points, yet we dominated Wigan and lost - work that one out. Like Reading, QPR have a lot of skilful, quick forwards and attacking midfielders and we had to soak up a lot of pressure and ride our luck a little, but for me it just shows what a good job the coaching team are doing. Every time we lose there are idiots on here calling for the head of the manager and all-out attacking football, but Oscar has to work with what he's given. The fact that we are where we are is a testament to good management and tactical nouse. Of course, we all love to watch flowing football and plenty of goals, but my view is that if we'd played as many on here would want us to, we'd be in the bottom half of the table - scoring but losing - a bit like Peterborough - but as we know results are everything, witness the response of the fans last night after soaking up the pressure and nicking a couple of late goals. I think Oscar has done a tremendous job in a difficult first season and wish people would remember that when things don't go so well.[/p][/quote]I disagree, Alan and your statement is flawed. However, because I do not agree does not make me an idiot or lacking knowledge about football as you suggest. Have we as good a team as last year? No. Has Oscar improved the team? No. Has Oscar recruited the best players he could? No. Has his team selection been correct in most games? No. Do most of us (that actually go) suspect wecould have done a lot better than we have done if we had not been so defensive until the second half? Yes.[/p][/quote]Have we as good a team as last year? No. Taking Bridcutt out of any Championship team weakens it. Plus, injuries haven't helped. Has Oscar improved the team? In some ways. We pressure the ball higher up the pitch better now. It was always going to be very difficult to improve on 4th without spending too much. Gus knew that. Has Oscar recruited the best players he could? We don't know who he has had the possibility of signing. If he had the choice of Obika or Guidetti for the same cost, no. But I doubt he did! Has his team selection been correct in most games? We'll never know! Different selections may have changed results but not always for the better. Do most of us (that actually go) suspect wecould have done a lot better than we have done if we had not been so defensive until the second half? Maybe most suspect it but doesn't mean they are right! It means we have a decent chance against every team in the division as all games are close. Can't be a bad thing. On a completely different note, I saw a kid with "Obika - 22" on his shirt last night! I blame the parents!!!! WestStander17
  • Score: 8

1:26pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Steveg1958 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
AlanDuffy wrote:
That's two games now where we've been outplayed and picked up 4 points, yet we dominated Wigan and lost - work that one out. Like Reading, QPR have a lot of skilful, quick forwards and attacking midfielders and we had to soak up a lot of pressure and ride our luck a little, but for me it just shows what a good job the coaching team are doing. Every time we lose there are idiots on here calling for the head of the manager and all-out attacking football, but Oscar has to work with what he's given. The fact that we are where we are is a testament to good management and tactical nouse. Of course, we all love to watch flowing football and plenty of goals, but my view is that if we'd played as many on here would want us to, we'd be in the bottom half of the table - scoring but losing - a bit like Peterborough - but as we know results are everything, witness the response of the fans last night after soaking up the pressure and nicking a couple of late goals. I think Oscar has done a tremendous job in a difficult first season and wish people would remember that when things don't go so well.
I disagree, Alan and your statement is flawed. However, because I do not agree does not make me an idiot or lacking knowledge about football as you suggest.
Have we as good a team as last year? No.
Has Oscar improved the team? No.
Has Oscar recruited the best players he could? No.
Has his team selection been correct in most games? No.
Do most of us (that actually go) suspect wecould have done a lot better than we have done if we had not been so defensive until the second half? Yes.
Did Oscar have a less than an ideal pre-season preparation period? Yes.
Have we been plagued with injuries this season.? Yes.
Do we have 2 more points than we had at this time last year? Yes.
Are the FFP rules influencing our spending this year? Yes.
Have our younger players come on this year? Yes.
Are we maintaining our crowd numbers? Yes.
Are we looking good re season ticket sales for next year? Yes.
Is it easy to make a list of negative opinions? Yes.
Are opinions facts? No.
Best post on here in ages Vegas, I couldn't agree more. Roll on the play offs, QPR out, Arry out of work, and Palace relegated, life just gets better and better.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlanDuffy[/bold] wrote: That's two games now where we've been outplayed and picked up 4 points, yet we dominated Wigan and lost - work that one out. Like Reading, QPR have a lot of skilful, quick forwards and attacking midfielders and we had to soak up a lot of pressure and ride our luck a little, but for me it just shows what a good job the coaching team are doing. Every time we lose there are idiots on here calling for the head of the manager and all-out attacking football, but Oscar has to work with what he's given. The fact that we are where we are is a testament to good management and tactical nouse. Of course, we all love to watch flowing football and plenty of goals, but my view is that if we'd played as many on here would want us to, we'd be in the bottom half of the table - scoring but losing - a bit like Peterborough - but as we know results are everything, witness the response of the fans last night after soaking up the pressure and nicking a couple of late goals. I think Oscar has done a tremendous job in a difficult first season and wish people would remember that when things don't go so well.[/p][/quote]I disagree, Alan and your statement is flawed. However, because I do not agree does not make me an idiot or lacking knowledge about football as you suggest. Have we as good a team as last year? No. Has Oscar improved the team? No. Has Oscar recruited the best players he could? No. Has his team selection been correct in most games? No. Do most of us (that actually go) suspect wecould have done a lot better than we have done if we had not been so defensive until the second half? Yes.[/p][/quote]Did Oscar have a less than an ideal pre-season preparation period? Yes. Have we been plagued with injuries this season.? Yes. Do we have 2 more points than we had at this time last year? Yes. Are the FFP rules influencing our spending this year? Yes. Have our younger players come on this year? Yes. Are we maintaining our crowd numbers? Yes. Are we looking good re season ticket sales for next year? Yes. Is it easy to make a list of negative opinions? Yes. Are opinions facts? No.[/p][/quote]Best post on here in ages Vegas, I couldn't agree more. Roll on the play offs, QPR out, Arry out of work, and Palace relegated, life just gets better and better. Steveg1958
  • Score: 8

1:51pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Far gull says...

Nobody will be happier than me if we make play offs. Suspect many like me not negative so much as trying to keep lid on expectations after such high hopes last year. We were flying end of last season before the wheels fell off and we ran out of steam. Palace limped into the play offs ,scored two great goals v us then out muscled watford and got over the final line. Anything can happen and does in football. :-)
Nobody will be happier than me if we make play offs. Suspect many like me not negative so much as trying to keep lid on expectations after such high hopes last year. We were flying end of last season before the wheels fell off and we ran out of steam. Palace limped into the play offs ,scored two great goals v us then out muscled watford and got over the final line. Anything can happen and does in football. :-) Far gull
  • Score: 10

1:54pm Wed 12 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

Steve until you do a job you don't really know the ins and outs of it, we on here love to play manager but in truth all we are doing is voicing an opinion based on very few known facts, facts we will probably never be told of.

Did Oscar tell Burke, I want this or that player on loan, or did Burke tell Oscar, look mate we can only get player X for now but we will keep looking, was there a target loan signing that Barber said we couldn't afford, who knows.

Players have come in on loan and not seen any real amount of playing time, was that Oscar telling Burke, 'you got the wrong player,' or did Oscar agree with the signing but the lad didn't turn out to be as good as they thought he would, who knows. Lingard is in and playing so it's not as though Oscar is against using loanees, so again who knows.

We have several players nearing the end of their contracts so will they all be offered new deals, who knows. If we don't get promoted will Oscar make big changes to the squad, who knows.

Is it fun to try and guess what Oscar and the club as a whole will do from week to week or at the end of the season, oh yeah, real fun, just as long as we don't confuse our own thinking with real facts, you know, those facts that we know nothing about.
Steve until you do a job you don't really know the ins and outs of it, we on here love to play manager but in truth all we are doing is voicing an opinion based on very few known facts, facts we will probably never be told of. Did Oscar tell Burke, I want this or that player on loan, or did Burke tell Oscar, look mate we can only get player X for now but we will keep looking, was there a target loan signing that Barber said we couldn't afford, who knows. Players have come in on loan and not seen any real amount of playing time, was that Oscar telling Burke, 'you got the wrong player,' or did Oscar agree with the signing but the lad didn't turn out to be as good as they thought he would, who knows. Lingard is in and playing so it's not as though Oscar is against using loanees, so again who knows. We have several players nearing the end of their contracts so will they all be offered new deals, who knows. If we don't get promoted will Oscar make big changes to the squad, who knows. Is it fun to try and guess what Oscar and the club as a whole will do from week to week or at the end of the season, oh yeah, real fun, just as long as we don't confuse our own thinking with real facts, you know, those facts that we know nothing about. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 11

2:10pm Wed 12 Mar 14

JollyRoger says...

I'm afraid I am still of the opinion that we continue to score goals or threaten the opposition's goal and last night was the same, even though we scored twice.

After the euphoria from last night's win dies down just think about how rarely we got a cross, corner or free kick into their penalty box. When we had good shooting opportunities we looked for the extra pass, lost possession and occasionally struggled to get back and prevent QPR from scoring on the break. When a free kick is screaming to be hit hard and low into the box where it might get a deflection do we continue to float slow, high crosses that defenders or keepers find easy to deal with?

Teams rarely have to worry about giving away free kicks or corners because we are completely incompetent when it comes to taking advantage of them and threatening the 6 yard box and making the keeper make a save. Until we fix these problems and start to push out with some pace we will continue to "just miss out" on playoff places and promotion.

I'm not being negative but this is how I saw last night's game and many of the games across the past 2/3 seasons. For all the goal-scoring talent we have why do we find shooting and scoring so hard?

All in all though, last night's work rate and performance was great - Ince MOM for me again though! Didn't expect to get much from the game but 3 great points and a great win. More like that for the rest of the season please.

UTA
I'm afraid I am still of the opinion that we continue to score goals or threaten the opposition's goal and last night was the same, even though we scored twice. After the euphoria from last night's win dies down just think about how rarely we got a cross, corner or free kick into their penalty box. When we had good shooting opportunities we looked for the extra pass, lost possession and occasionally struggled to get back and prevent QPR from scoring on the break. When a free kick is screaming to be hit hard and low into the box where it might get a deflection do we continue to float slow, high crosses that defenders or keepers find easy to deal with? Teams rarely have to worry about giving away free kicks or corners because we are completely incompetent when it comes to taking advantage of them and threatening the 6 yard box and making the keeper make a save. Until we fix these problems and start to push out with some pace we will continue to "just miss out" on playoff places and promotion. I'm not being negative but this is how I saw last night's game and many of the games across the past 2/3 seasons. For all the goal-scoring talent we have why do we find shooting and scoring so hard? All in all though, last night's work rate and performance was great - Ince MOM for me again though! Didn't expect to get much from the game but 3 great points and a great win. More like that for the rest of the season please. UTA JollyRoger
  • Score: 8

2:17pm Wed 12 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

JollyRoger wrote:
I'm afraid I am still of the opinion that we continue to score goals or threaten the opposition's goal and last night was the same, even though we scored twice.

After the euphoria from last night's win dies down just think about how rarely we got a cross, corner or free kick into their penalty box. When we had good shooting opportunities we looked for the extra pass, lost possession and occasionally struggled to get back and prevent QPR from scoring on the break. When a free kick is screaming to be hit hard and low into the box where it might get a deflection do we continue to float slow, high crosses that defenders or keepers find easy to deal with?

Teams rarely have to worry about giving away free kicks or corners because we are completely incompetent when it comes to taking advantage of them and threatening the 6 yard box and making the keeper make a save. Until we fix these problems and start to push out with some pace we will continue to "just miss out" on playoff places and promotion.

I'm not being negative but this is how I saw last night's game and many of the games across the past 2/3 seasons. For all the goal-scoring talent we have why do we find shooting and scoring so hard?

All in all though, last night's work rate and performance was great - Ince MOM for me again though! Didn't expect to get much from the game but 3 great points and a great win. More like that for the rest of the season please.

UTA
You may be right but we do have 2 more points than this time last season and we are, only now, getting a couple of strikers back from injury. It's an up and down year, players available and then not, Crofts bang on form and then out for the season. We may not have created a lot last evening but the important thing is, when we did have a couple of good chances, we took them, and for all the pressure QPR placed on us, we kept them out.
[quote][p][bold]JollyRoger[/bold] wrote: I'm afraid I am still of the opinion that we continue to score goals or threaten the opposition's goal and last night was the same, even though we scored twice. After the euphoria from last night's win dies down just think about how rarely we got a cross, corner or free kick into their penalty box. When we had good shooting opportunities we looked for the extra pass, lost possession and occasionally struggled to get back and prevent QPR from scoring on the break. When a free kick is screaming to be hit hard and low into the box where it might get a deflection do we continue to float slow, high crosses that defenders or keepers find easy to deal with? Teams rarely have to worry about giving away free kicks or corners because we are completely incompetent when it comes to taking advantage of them and threatening the 6 yard box and making the keeper make a save. Until we fix these problems and start to push out with some pace we will continue to "just miss out" on playoff places and promotion. I'm not being negative but this is how I saw last night's game and many of the games across the past 2/3 seasons. For all the goal-scoring talent we have why do we find shooting and scoring so hard? All in all though, last night's work rate and performance was great - Ince MOM for me again though! Didn't expect to get much from the game but 3 great points and a great win. More like that for the rest of the season please. UTA[/p][/quote]You may be right but we do have 2 more points than this time last season and we are, only now, getting a couple of strikers back from injury. It's an up and down year, players available and then not, Crofts bang on form and then out for the season. We may not have created a lot last evening but the important thing is, when we did have a couple of good chances, we took them, and for all the pressure QPR placed on us, we kept them out. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 8

2:23pm Wed 12 Mar 14

bruce beckett says...

AlanDuffy wrote:
That's two games now where we've been outplayed and picked up 4 points, yet we dominated Wigan and lost - work that one out. Like Reading, QPR have a lot of skilful, quick forwards and attacking midfielders and we had to soak up a lot of pressure and ride our luck a little, but for me it just shows what a good job the coaching team are doing. Every time we lose there are idiots on here calling for the head of the manager and all-out attacking football, but Oscar has to work with what he's given. The fact that we are where we are is a testament to good management and tactical nouse. Of course, we all love to watch flowing football and plenty of goals, but my view is that if we'd played as many on here would want us to, we'd be in the bottom half of the table - scoring but losing - a bit like Peterborough - but as we know results are everything, witness the response of the fans last night after soaking up the pressure and nicking a couple of late goals. I think Oscar has done a tremendous job in a difficult first season and wish people would remember that when things don't go so well.
Outstanding post, Mr. Duffy, and one that has made me look at things from a different angle.

With an injury-free season, I thought we'd stand a good chance of making the top six. It's been anything but that. To be in seventh place, despite losing Bridders and Crofty, is testament to the outstanding job done by the coaching team.

Are we a little boring and one-dimensional at times? Yes, we are. But I think you have hit the nail on the head when you say "Oscar has to work with what he's given".

The strength of the team is the way it defends and the protection provided to an outstanding goalkeeper. Upson has been immense in his two years with us; Greer has been a war horse alongside him, despite his obvious lack of pace. The whole team defends well as a unit.

We don't score enough goals and, to be honest, I don't think we have a good enough midfield to get out of the division this year. But the one thing OG has done is make the team he puts out incredibly hard to beat.
[quote][p][bold]AlanDuffy[/bold] wrote: That's two games now where we've been outplayed and picked up 4 points, yet we dominated Wigan and lost - work that one out. Like Reading, QPR have a lot of skilful, quick forwards and attacking midfielders and we had to soak up a lot of pressure and ride our luck a little, but for me it just shows what a good job the coaching team are doing. Every time we lose there are idiots on here calling for the head of the manager and all-out attacking football, but Oscar has to work with what he's given. The fact that we are where we are is a testament to good management and tactical nouse. Of course, we all love to watch flowing football and plenty of goals, but my view is that if we'd played as many on here would want us to, we'd be in the bottom half of the table - scoring but losing - a bit like Peterborough - but as we know results are everything, witness the response of the fans last night after soaking up the pressure and nicking a couple of late goals. I think Oscar has done a tremendous job in a difficult first season and wish people would remember that when things don't go so well.[/p][/quote]Outstanding post, Mr. Duffy, and one that has made me look at things from a different angle. With an injury-free season, I thought we'd stand a good chance of making the top six. It's been anything but that. To be in seventh place, despite losing Bridders and Crofty, is testament to the outstanding job done by the coaching team. Are we a little boring and one-dimensional at times? Yes, we are. But I think you have hit the nail on the head when you say "Oscar has to work with what he's given". The strength of the team is the way it defends and the protection provided to an outstanding goalkeeper. Upson has been immense in his two years with us; Greer has been a war horse alongside him, despite his obvious lack of pace. The whole team defends well as a unit. We don't score enough goals and, to be honest, I don't think we have a good enough midfield to get out of the division this year. But the one thing OG has done is make the team he puts out incredibly hard to beat. bruce beckett
  • Score: 2

2:32pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Sacre Bleu says...

Can the Albion make the play-offs? Yes, but……………to state the blindingly obvious, Brighton has to score more goals at the Amex and win convincingly the remaining 5 home games to stand a realistic chance of getting into the top six. Only one of these is arguably a 6-pointer (that against unpredictable Ipswich), and the remaining four are all against decidedly weaker sides
Of the remaining 7 away matches, one is a “must-win” against a play-off rival (Forest) , and another against runaway leaders Leicester, who are virtually uncatchable So, debatably, even a point from the match at the King Power Stadium match could be seen as a bonus. Apart from these two, none of the other 5 away games are against quality sides and two wins and three draws has to the target.
But one thing for sure, NO MORE HOME DRAWS!
Personally, I don’t care how many goals we let in at the Amex between now and next May so long as more go into our opponent’s net. If we were to collect a maximum 15 points at home and another 12/13 away (say 3 wins and 3/4 draws), then I think we are probably heading for a final position in 5th or 6th place and a possible semi-final play-off against QPR or Derby.
All conjecture of course with so many variables at stake, but fortune so often favours the brave. So, come on Oscar & Co, throw caution to the wind at the Amex and let’s rip the likes of Ipswich/Middlesborou
gh/Charlton/Blackpoo
l/Yeovil apart or die in the attempt!
Can the Albion make the play-offs? Yes, but……………to state the blindingly obvious, Brighton has to score more goals at the Amex and win convincingly the remaining 5 home games to stand a realistic chance of getting into the top six. Only one of these is arguably a 6-pointer (that against unpredictable Ipswich), and the remaining four are all against decidedly weaker sides Of the remaining 7 away matches, one is a “must-win” against a play-off rival (Forest) , and another against runaway leaders Leicester, who are virtually uncatchable So, debatably, even a point from the match at the King Power Stadium match could be seen as a bonus. Apart from these two, none of the other 5 away games are against quality sides and two wins and three draws has to the target. But one thing for sure, NO MORE HOME DRAWS! Personally, I don’t care how many goals we let in at the Amex between now and next May so long as more go into our opponent’s net. If we were to collect a maximum 15 points at home and another 12/13 away (say 3 wins and 3/4 draws), then I think we are probably heading for a final position in 5th or 6th place and a possible semi-final play-off against QPR or Derby. All conjecture of course with so many variables at stake, but fortune so often favours the brave. So, come on Oscar & Co, throw caution to the wind at the Amex and let’s rip the likes of Ipswich/Middlesborou gh/Charlton/Blackpoo l/Yeovil apart or die in the attempt! Sacre Bleu
  • Score: 12

2:36pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Vince says...

AlanDuffy wrote:
That's two games now where we've been outplayed and picked up 4 points, yet we dominated Wigan and lost - work that one out. Like Reading, QPR have a lot of skilful, quick forwards and attacking midfielders and we had to soak up a lot of pressure and ride our luck a little, but for me it just shows what a good job the coaching team are doing. Every time we lose there are idiots on here calling for the head of the manager and all-out attacking football, but Oscar has to work with what he's given. The fact that we are where we are is a testament to good management and tactical nouse. Of course, we all love to watch flowing football and plenty of goals, but my view is that if we'd played as many on here would want us to, we'd be in the bottom half of the table - scoring but losing - a bit like Peterborough - but as we know results are everything, witness the response of the fans last night after soaking up the pressure and nicking a couple of late goals. I think Oscar has done a tremendous job in a difficult first season and wish people would remember that when things don't go so well.
I agree with most of your comments - but to call messageboarders who call for all-out attacking football "idiots" is both uncalled for, unfair and inaccurate. Most criticism has come from posts which highlight the negative starting line-ups at home in games against the likes of Barnsley and Reading, - when there were players on the bench who would have given us a more potent attacking impetus from the start (even with all our injuries).

I think Oscar got the starting line-up spot on last night, with Buckley, Ulloa and Lingard always a threat even though QPR had almost total midfield supremacy. That's not to say that Ince and Jake played badly (they both performed very well in fact), but QPR just oozed class with the likes of Morrison and Barton in midfield (and even could leave Benayoun on the bench).

The keeper and back four were fantastic last night and fully-deserved to keep a clean sheet. The only defensive problems were caused by one or two defensive errors by Bruno - who was beaten too easily on occasions (but who otherwise had a good game and was excellent going forward) and the poor distribution of Andrews (although he was involved in the attack from which we got our first goal). At times we were clearing our lines - but giving the ball back to QPR too easily - therefore inviting pressure on ourselves. I think we were were missing Orlandi and Stephens in that regard.

However, as Oscar said, despite not being at our best in the last two games, we have withstood some intense pressure from some potent attacking by the opposition and survived , and still shown enough attacking intent to beat the opposition. I think Lingard will improve - he was nearly on the end of some great attacking play last night, Ulloa is getting back to his potent best, Buckley was brilliant last night, Lua Lua was great as an impact sub, and Forster Caskey showed some great skill on the ball and good vision. Ince fought like a tiger in midfield - and helped get our attacks going in the second half.

No way did QPR totally outplay us as 'arry Redknapp says. We fought them all the way, and kept their defence at full stretch with some quick counter-attacks - which never fully threatened their goal until the last 20 minutes - but we always looked dangerous.

The future is bright - and I think we will make the play-offs. If we win our game in hand we will go above Reading - level with Forest, be 6 points behind Derby, and we are now only 7 points behind QPR. With Wigan in a very strong position, it is all getting very tight.
[quote][p][bold]AlanDuffy[/bold] wrote: That's two games now where we've been outplayed and picked up 4 points, yet we dominated Wigan and lost - work that one out. Like Reading, QPR have a lot of skilful, quick forwards and attacking midfielders and we had to soak up a lot of pressure and ride our luck a little, but for me it just shows what a good job the coaching team are doing. Every time we lose there are idiots on here calling for the head of the manager and all-out attacking football, but Oscar has to work with what he's given. The fact that we are where we are is a testament to good management and tactical nouse. Of course, we all love to watch flowing football and plenty of goals, but my view is that if we'd played as many on here would want us to, we'd be in the bottom half of the table - scoring but losing - a bit like Peterborough - but as we know results are everything, witness the response of the fans last night after soaking up the pressure and nicking a couple of late goals. I think Oscar has done a tremendous job in a difficult first season and wish people would remember that when things don't go so well.[/p][/quote]I agree with most of your comments - but to call messageboarders who call for all-out attacking football "idiots" is both uncalled for, unfair and inaccurate. Most criticism has come from posts which highlight the negative starting line-ups at home in games against the likes of Barnsley and Reading, - when there were players on the bench who would have given us a more potent attacking impetus from the start (even with all our injuries). I think Oscar got the starting line-up spot on last night, with Buckley, Ulloa and Lingard always a threat even though QPR had almost total midfield supremacy. That's not to say that Ince and Jake played badly (they both performed very well in fact), but QPR just oozed class with the likes of Morrison and Barton in midfield (and even could leave Benayoun on the bench). The keeper and back four were fantastic last night and fully-deserved to keep a clean sheet. The only defensive problems were caused by one or two defensive errors by Bruno - who was beaten too easily on occasions (but who otherwise had a good game and was excellent going forward) and the poor distribution of Andrews (although he was involved in the attack from which we got our first goal). At times we were clearing our lines - but giving the ball back to QPR too easily - therefore inviting pressure on ourselves. I think we were were missing Orlandi and Stephens in that regard. However, as Oscar said, despite not being at our best in the last two games, we have withstood some intense pressure from some potent attacking by the opposition and survived , and still shown enough attacking intent to beat the opposition. I think Lingard will improve - he was nearly on the end of some great attacking play last night, Ulloa is getting back to his potent best, Buckley was brilliant last night, Lua Lua was great as an impact sub, and Forster Caskey showed some great skill on the ball and good vision. Ince fought like a tiger in midfield - and helped get our attacks going in the second half. No way did QPR totally outplay us as 'arry Redknapp says. We fought them all the way, and kept their defence at full stretch with some quick counter-attacks - which never fully threatened their goal until the last 20 minutes - but we always looked dangerous. The future is bright - and I think we will make the play-offs. If we win our game in hand we will go above Reading - level with Forest, be 6 points behind Derby, and we are now only 7 points behind QPR. With Wigan in a very strong position, it is all getting very tight. Vince
  • Score: 13

2:43pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Hovite says...

I always expected a slow start but strong finish to our season and it was always going to take 8 months for the team and Oscar to settle.

We are in a position where we are one of seven clubs who are fighting for the playoffs and with Forest looking weak, Reading not all that, QPR having a bad time, and Derby just one point from the last nine, we have everything to play for without the pressure that the teams above us have.

We have got nothing to lose, everyone above us has, and that suits me fine.
I always expected a slow start but strong finish to our season and it was always going to take 8 months for the team and Oscar to settle. We are in a position where we are one of seven clubs who are fighting for the playoffs and with Forest looking weak, Reading not all that, QPR having a bad time, and Derby just one point from the last nine, we have everything to play for without the pressure that the teams above us have. We have got nothing to lose, everyone above us has, and that suits me fine. Hovite
  • Score: 9

2:57pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Albion fan in London says...

Couldn't care less how we win as long as we get the 3pts. The division is crackers again this season and without sounding too confident so what if we arnt playing that well and winning or drawing games. We seem to have timed this recent run to perfection in terms of peaking at the right time and having players back for the remaining games. Its also quite interesting to see sides who have been winning consistently having massive wobbles eg QPR, Forest and now Derby who have not scored in 3 consecutive games.

UTA
Couldn't care less how we win as long as we get the 3pts. The division is crackers again this season and without sounding too confident so what if we arnt playing that well and winning or drawing games. We seem to have timed this recent run to perfection in terms of peaking at the right time and having players back for the remaining games. Its also quite interesting to see sides who have been winning consistently having massive wobbles eg QPR, Forest and now Derby who have not scored in 3 consecutive games. UTA Albion fan in London
  • Score: 8

3:00pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Tommy11 says...

It really does make me laugh when the people on this feed who are so positive about the way we played, don't actually attend the matches! Look, I’m not having a go at you (Vegas & ex Pat Arnie etc...) but you cannot get an accurate assessment of the game by watching seagulls pod and other internet methods!

It was a great win – but listen, we were awful throughout! It was very negative tactics, boring football and if it was not for the defence and TK (who have all been excellent all season) we would have lost the match - once that first goal went in. What made me laugh is when us (the fans) actually made the substitution….from the 60th minute we (in the WSU) were screaming for Lua Lua to come on – it took Garcia to work this out on 70ish..and guess what – we scored 2 goals and won the game. You can say what you want people – but it was us the fans who made that call.

Despite the win – I’m telling you the Argus & readers – we will NOT make the play offs this year. Reason being: Were not good enough and we are very lucky to be sitting in 7th spot. I’m also not happy at all by the way we play. I would rather go for it from the start, but lose – we pay a lot of money for attending the matches & ST’s, and in truth – we play with no attacking system at all and when a player starts to attack they look like a lost little boy – they don’t know what to do with it. There is no plan!!

Rule number 1 with Oscar. Shut Out the attack. Rule Number 2 with Oscar. Shut Out the attack. That’s it.

All you people who think I’m negative. Forgive me. I do admire you optimism! I truly do. But do you really think we are GOOD enough to get in the play offs?? Really? Do we actually want that? We could fluke it maybe, but surely that would create a bigger mess for the club that we all love?

As Claude Back says – do I think we could have done better if we had not been so defensive until the second half? Absolutely 100%.... and to add a spanner in the woodworks – do I think we would be in a better position with a gutsy manager such as Rosler & Holloway – Absolutely 100%.

I’m apologise I’m being so ‘negative’. But you have heard it hear. The wheels will come off the Oscar Bus very soon and WE will be found out. This Argus feed will have a different tone come October this year, when we are languishing in the bottom half of the table with the majority (if not all) our stars gone. Unless we act in the summer - this is where were heading – it’s just a reality check people!

In Oscar – I don’t trust.
It really does make me laugh when the people on this feed who are so positive about the way we played, don't actually attend the matches! Look, I’m not having a go at you (Vegas & ex Pat Arnie etc...) but you cannot get an accurate assessment of the game by watching seagulls pod and other internet methods! It was a great win – but listen, we were awful throughout! It was very negative tactics, boring football and if it was not for the defence and TK (who have all been excellent all season) we would have lost the match - once that first goal went in. What made me laugh is when us (the fans) actually made the substitution….from the 60th minute we (in the WSU) were screaming for Lua Lua to come on – it took Garcia to work this out on 70ish..and guess what – we scored 2 goals and won the game. You can say what you want people – but it was us the fans who made that call. Despite the win – I’m telling you the Argus & readers – we will NOT make the play offs this year. Reason being: Were not good enough and we are very lucky to be sitting in 7th spot. I’m also not happy at all by the way we play. I would rather go for it from the start, but lose – we pay a lot of money for attending the matches & ST’s, and in truth – we play with no attacking system at all and when a player starts to attack they look like a lost little boy – they don’t know what to do with it. There is no plan!! Rule number 1 with Oscar. Shut Out the attack. Rule Number 2 with Oscar. Shut Out the attack. That’s it. All you people who think I’m negative. Forgive me. I do admire you optimism! I truly do. But do you really think we are GOOD enough to get in the play offs?? Really? Do we actually want that? We could fluke it maybe, but surely that would create a bigger mess for the club that we all love? As Claude Back says – do I think we could have done better if we had not been so defensive until the second half? Absolutely 100%.... and to add a spanner in the woodworks – do I think we would be in a better position with a gutsy manager such as Rosler & Holloway – Absolutely 100%. I’m apologise I’m being so ‘negative’. But you have heard it hear. The wheels will come off the Oscar Bus very soon and WE will be found out. This Argus feed will have a different tone come October this year, when we are languishing in the bottom half of the table with the majority (if not all) our stars gone. Unless we act in the summer - this is where were heading – it’s just a reality check people! In Oscar – I don’t trust. Tommy11
  • Score: -9

3:33pm Wed 12 Mar 14

fratsomrover says...

I've always thought we'd achieve a top 6 finish, but after last night, I do have some doubts. It was a great result for us and proves the point that it is goals that wins matches, but there lies the problem. Last night we were second best, but hung in there and eventually converted a couple of chances.
However to be honest, I felt we were second best on the night and QPR had the bulk of the play and created plenty of chances, but they didn't take them.
I see Leicester, Burnley and Derby as cert top three finishers, which leaves QPR, Reading, Wigan, Forest and us battling for the other three spots.
The first thee of these all have strong squads with ex Prem players still at the club. Reading and Wigan are scoring goals and although QPR aren't at present, they do create enough opportunities that it is only a matter of time before they start going in.
We on the other hand, do not create many and I fear that it will be this failing that may cost us a top 6 finish.
I hope I'm wrong.
I've always thought we'd achieve a top 6 finish, but after last night, I do have some doubts. It was a great result for us and proves the point that it is goals that wins matches, but there lies the problem. Last night we were second best, but hung in there and eventually converted a couple of chances. However to be honest, I felt we were second best on the night and QPR had the bulk of the play and created plenty of chances, but they didn't take them. I see Leicester, Burnley and Derby as cert top three finishers, which leaves QPR, Reading, Wigan, Forest and us battling for the other three spots. The first thee of these all have strong squads with ex Prem players still at the club. Reading and Wigan are scoring goals and although QPR aren't at present, they do create enough opportunities that it is only a matter of time before they start going in. We on the other hand, do not create many and I fear that it will be this failing that may cost us a top 6 finish. I hope I'm wrong. fratsomrover
  • Score: 4

3:41pm Wed 12 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

Hovite wrote:
I always expected a slow start but strong finish to our season and it was always going to take 8 months for the team and Oscar to settle.

We are in a position where we are one of seven clubs who are fighting for the playoffs and with Forest looking weak, Reading not all that, QPR having a bad time, and Derby just one point from the last nine, we have everything to play for without the pressure that the teams above us have.

We have got nothing to lose, everyone above us has, and that suits me fine.
We have the best run in so I think we have a fighting chance of making the top six.

Of the top 8 clubs we have Leicester still to play.
Forest have us, Derby and QPR.
Reading have Derby, Leicester, Wigan and Burnley.
QPR have Wigan, Forest and Leicester.

I am giving Derby a top six spot now.
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: I always expected a slow start but strong finish to our season and it was always going to take 8 months for the team and Oscar to settle. We are in a position where we are one of seven clubs who are fighting for the playoffs and with Forest looking weak, Reading not all that, QPR having a bad time, and Derby just one point from the last nine, we have everything to play for without the pressure that the teams above us have. We have got nothing to lose, everyone above us has, and that suits me fine.[/p][/quote]We have the best run in so I think we have a fighting chance of making the top six. Of the top 8 clubs we have Leicester still to play. Forest have us, Derby and QPR. Reading have Derby, Leicester, Wigan and Burnley. QPR have Wigan, Forest and Leicester. I am giving Derby a top six spot now. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 5

3:50pm Wed 12 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

Tommy11 wrote:
It really does make me laugh when the people on this feed who are so positive about the way we played, don't actually attend the matches! Look, I’m not having a go at you (Vegas & ex Pat Arnie etc...) but you cannot get an accurate assessment of the game by watching seagulls pod and other internet methods!

It was a great win – but listen, we were awful throughout! It was very negative tactics, boring football and if it was not for the defence and TK (who have all been excellent all season) we would have lost the match - once that first goal went in. What made me laugh is when us (the fans) actually made the substitution….from the 60th minute we (in the WSU) were screaming for Lua Lua to come on – it took Garcia to work this out on 70ish..and guess what – we scored 2 goals and won the game. You can say what you want people – but it was us the fans who made that call.

Despite the win – I’m telling you the Argus & readers – we will NOT make the play offs this year. Reason being: Were not good enough and we are very lucky to be sitting in 7th spot. I’m also not happy at all by the way we play. I would rather go for it from the start, but lose – we pay a lot of money for attending the matches & ST’s, and in truth – we play with no attacking system at all and when a player starts to attack they look like a lost little boy – they don’t know what to do with it. There is no plan!!

Rule number 1 with Oscar. Shut Out the attack. Rule Number 2 with Oscar. Shut Out the attack. That’s it.

All you people who think I’m negative. Forgive me. I do admire you optimism! I truly do. But do you really think we are GOOD enough to get in the play offs?? Really? Do we actually want that? We could fluke it maybe, but surely that would create a bigger mess for the club that we all love?

As Claude Back says – do I think we could have done better if we had not been so defensive until the second half? Absolutely 100%.... and to add a spanner in the woodworks – do I think we would be in a better position with a gutsy manager such as Rosler & Holloway – Absolutely 100%.

I’m apologise I’m being so ‘negative’. But you have heard it hear. The wheels will come off the Oscar Bus very soon and WE will be found out. This Argus feed will have a different tone come October this year, when we are languishing in the bottom half of the table with the majority (if not all) our stars gone. Unless we act in the summer - this is where were heading – it’s just a reality check people!

In Oscar – I don’t trust.
All that you have written is based on your opinion, and that's cool, but just because some of us are across the waters, doesn't mean that we have to agree with what you write. There are many comments that differ to yours from people that were there, are they all wrong too, or do they simply have a different opinion. Perhaps you are suggesting that we expats should not voice an opinion about anything Brighton And Hove Albion, perhaps we should just read your words and take them as gospel.
I have told you before, and I tell you again, check what I write, I don't comment of performances that I don't see.
[quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: It really does make me laugh when the people on this feed who are so positive about the way we played, don't actually attend the matches! Look, I’m not having a go at you (Vegas & ex Pat Arnie etc...) but you cannot get an accurate assessment of the game by watching seagulls pod and other internet methods! It was a great win – but listen, we were awful throughout! It was very negative tactics, boring football and if it was not for the defence and TK (who have all been excellent all season) we would have lost the match - once that first goal went in. What made me laugh is when us (the fans) actually made the substitution….from the 60th minute we (in the WSU) were screaming for Lua Lua to come on – it took Garcia to work this out on 70ish..and guess what – we scored 2 goals and won the game. You can say what you want people – but it was us the fans who made that call. Despite the win – I’m telling you the Argus & readers – we will NOT make the play offs this year. Reason being: Were not good enough and we are very lucky to be sitting in 7th spot. I’m also not happy at all by the way we play. I would rather go for it from the start, but lose – we pay a lot of money for attending the matches & ST’s, and in truth – we play with no attacking system at all and when a player starts to attack they look like a lost little boy – they don’t know what to do with it. There is no plan!! Rule number 1 with Oscar. Shut Out the attack. Rule Number 2 with Oscar. Shut Out the attack. That’s it. All you people who think I’m negative. Forgive me. I do admire you optimism! I truly do. But do you really think we are GOOD enough to get in the play offs?? Really? Do we actually want that? We could fluke it maybe, but surely that would create a bigger mess for the club that we all love? As Claude Back says – do I think we could have done better if we had not been so defensive until the second half? Absolutely 100%.... and to add a spanner in the woodworks – do I think we would be in a better position with a gutsy manager such as Rosler & Holloway – Absolutely 100%. I’m apologise I’m being so ‘negative’. But you have heard it hear. The wheels will come off the Oscar Bus very soon and WE will be found out. This Argus feed will have a different tone come October this year, when we are languishing in the bottom half of the table with the majority (if not all) our stars gone. Unless we act in the summer - this is where were heading – it’s just a reality check people! In Oscar – I don’t trust.[/p][/quote]All that you have written is based on your opinion, and that's cool, but just because some of us are across the waters, doesn't mean that we have to agree with what you write. There are many comments that differ to yours from people that were there, are they all wrong too, or do they simply have a different opinion. Perhaps you are suggesting that we expats should not voice an opinion about anything Brighton And Hove Albion, perhaps we should just read your words and take them as gospel. I have told you before, and I tell you again, check what I write, I don't comment of performances that I don't see. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 6

3:58pm Wed 12 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

Tommy I challenge you to point out where I have voiced an opinion on the team or individual players performance.
You write your snide comments about what I offer, so now back it up look like a fool, your choice.
Tommy I challenge you to point out where I have voiced an opinion on the team or individual players performance. You write your snide comments about what I offer, so now back it up look like a fool, your choice. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 5

4:00pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Hovite says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Hovite wrote:
I always expected a slow start but strong finish to our season and it was always going to take 8 months for the team and Oscar to settle.

We are in a position where we are one of seven clubs who are fighting for the playoffs and with Forest looking weak, Reading not all that, QPR having a bad time, and Derby just one point from the last nine, we have everything to play for without the pressure that the teams above us have.

We have got nothing to lose, everyone above us has, and that suits me fine.
We have the best run in so I think we have a fighting chance of making the top six.

Of the top 8 clubs we have Leicester still to play.
Forest have us, Derby and QPR.
Reading have Derby, Leicester, Wigan and Burnley.
QPR have Wigan, Forest and Leicester.

I am giving Derby a top six spot now.
Yep I looked at all the clubs fixtures last night and on paper we have the easier games, and we finish with Charlton, Huddersfield, Blackpool, Yeovil and finally Forest, which I think will be a playoff decider.

This time last year Palace were in fourth, with two more points than Derby have now, and we were 8 points behind them.

We are 9 points behind 3rd place Derby and 7 points behind fourth place QPR.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: I always expected a slow start but strong finish to our season and it was always going to take 8 months for the team and Oscar to settle. We are in a position where we are one of seven clubs who are fighting for the playoffs and with Forest looking weak, Reading not all that, QPR having a bad time, and Derby just one point from the last nine, we have everything to play for without the pressure that the teams above us have. We have got nothing to lose, everyone above us has, and that suits me fine.[/p][/quote]We have the best run in so I think we have a fighting chance of making the top six. Of the top 8 clubs we have Leicester still to play. Forest have us, Derby and QPR. Reading have Derby, Leicester, Wigan and Burnley. QPR have Wigan, Forest and Leicester. I am giving Derby a top six spot now.[/p][/quote]Yep I looked at all the clubs fixtures last night and on paper we have the easier games, and we finish with Charlton, Huddersfield, Blackpool, Yeovil and finally Forest, which I think will be a playoff decider. This time last year Palace were in fourth, with two more points than Derby have now, and we were 8 points behind them. We are 9 points behind 3rd place Derby and 7 points behind fourth place QPR. Hovite
  • Score: 6

4:05pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Tommy11 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Tommy11 wrote: It really does make me laugh when the people on this feed who are so positive about the way we played, don't actually attend the matches! Look, I’m not having a go at you (Vegas & ex Pat Arnie etc...) but you cannot get an accurate assessment of the game by watching seagulls pod and other internet methods! It was a great win – but listen, we were awful throughout! It was very negative tactics, boring football and if it was not for the defence and TK (who have all been excellent all season) we would have lost the match - once that first goal went in. What made me laugh is when us (the fans) actually made the substitution….from the 60th minute we (in the WSU) were screaming for Lua Lua to come on – it took Garcia to work this out on 70ish..and guess what – we scored 2 goals and won the game. You can say what you want people – but it was us the fans who made that call. Despite the win – I’m telling you the Argus & readers – we will NOT make the play offs this year. Reason being: Were not good enough and we are very lucky to be sitting in 7th spot. I’m also not happy at all by the way we play. I would rather go for it from the start, but lose – we pay a lot of money for attending the matches & ST’s, and in truth – we play with no attacking system at all and when a player starts to attack they look like a lost little boy – they don’t know what to do with it. There is no plan!! Rule number 1 with Oscar. Shut Out the attack. Rule Number 2 with Oscar. Shut Out the attack. That’s it. All you people who think I’m negative. Forgive me. I do admire you optimism! I truly do. But do you really think we are GOOD enough to get in the play offs?? Really? Do we actually want that? We could fluke it maybe, but surely that would create a bigger mess for the club that we all love? As Claude Back says – do I think we could have done better if we had not been so defensive until the second half? Absolutely 100%.... and to add a spanner in the woodworks – do I think we would be in a better position with a gutsy manager such as Rosler & Holloway – Absolutely 100%. I’m apologise I’m being so ‘negative’. But you have heard it hear. The wheels will come off the Oscar Bus very soon and WE will be found out. This Argus feed will have a different tone come October this year, when we are languishing in the bottom half of the table with the majority (if not all) our stars gone. Unless we act in the summer - this is where were heading – it’s just a reality check people! In Oscar – I don’t trust.
All that you have written is based on your opinion, and that's cool, but just because some of us are across the waters, doesn't mean that we have to agree with what you write. There are many comments that differ to yours from people that were there, are they all wrong too, or do they simply have a different opinion. Perhaps you are suggesting that we expats should not voice an opinion about anything Brighton And Hove Albion, perhaps we should just read your words and take them as gospel. I have told you before, and I tell you again, check what I write, I don't comment of performances that I don't see.
I never said you had to agree with me Vegas....and I said i'm not having a go at you. It is my opinion.

You say that you don't comment on peformances...well maybe so - therefore your opinions then are based entirley on stats? is that what your telling me? -which I have been telling you now for the last year!

No one has to agree with me - this is a forum, its no point us all sitting here happy clappy and saying how wonderful we are. Without the objective fans, this comment section would be nothing.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: It really does make me laugh when the people on this feed who are so positive about the way we played, don't actually attend the matches! Look, I’m not having a go at you (Vegas & ex Pat Arnie etc...) but you cannot get an accurate assessment of the game by watching seagulls pod and other internet methods! It was a great win – but listen, we were awful throughout! It was very negative tactics, boring football and if it was not for the defence and TK (who have all been excellent all season) we would have lost the match - once that first goal went in. What made me laugh is when us (the fans) actually made the substitution….from the 60th minute we (in the WSU) were screaming for Lua Lua to come on – it took Garcia to work this out on 70ish..and guess what – we scored 2 goals and won the game. You can say what you want people – but it was us the fans who made that call. Despite the win – I’m telling you the Argus & readers – we will NOT make the play offs this year. Reason being: Were not good enough and we are very lucky to be sitting in 7th spot. I’m also not happy at all by the way we play. I would rather go for it from the start, but lose – we pay a lot of money for attending the matches & ST’s, and in truth – we play with no attacking system at all and when a player starts to attack they look like a lost little boy – they don’t know what to do with it. There is no plan!! Rule number 1 with Oscar. Shut Out the attack. Rule Number 2 with Oscar. Shut Out the attack. That’s it. All you people who think I’m negative. Forgive me. I do admire you optimism! I truly do. But do you really think we are GOOD enough to get in the play offs?? Really? Do we actually want that? We could fluke it maybe, but surely that would create a bigger mess for the club that we all love? As Claude Back says – do I think we could have done better if we had not been so defensive until the second half? Absolutely 100%.... and to add a spanner in the woodworks – do I think we would be in a better position with a gutsy manager such as Rosler & Holloway – Absolutely 100%. I’m apologise I’m being so ‘negative’. But you have heard it hear. The wheels will come off the Oscar Bus very soon and WE will be found out. This Argus feed will have a different tone come October this year, when we are languishing in the bottom half of the table with the majority (if not all) our stars gone. Unless we act in the summer - this is where were heading – it’s just a reality check people! In Oscar – I don’t trust.[/p][/quote]All that you have written is based on your opinion, and that's cool, but just because some of us are across the waters, doesn't mean that we have to agree with what you write. There are many comments that differ to yours from people that were there, are they all wrong too, or do they simply have a different opinion. Perhaps you are suggesting that we expats should not voice an opinion about anything Brighton And Hove Albion, perhaps we should just read your words and take them as gospel. I have told you before, and I tell you again, check what I write, I don't comment of performances that I don't see.[/p][/quote]I never said you had to agree with me Vegas....and I said i'm not having a go at you. It is my opinion. You say that you don't comment on peformances...well maybe so - therefore your opinions then are based entirley on stats? is that what your telling me? -which I have been telling you now for the last year! No one has to agree with me - this is a forum, its no point us all sitting here happy clappy and saying how wonderful we are. Without the objective fans, this comment section would be nothing. Tommy11
  • Score: 3

4:19pm Wed 12 Mar 14

ballantrrae says...

Quiterie wrote:
For me it's very simple. If we carry on playing as we have (which is a very decent standard, but not quite promotion form), I think we'll come up just short. But if Lingard starts knocking them in as he did for Birmingham that will make all the difference and we'll make the pay-offs. One player can make all the difference. Look at Derby..... they were flying when Patrick Bamford was knocking them in. Now he's lost a bit of form they haven't scored in 3 games.
Good post Quiterie and I too feel we will come up just short of the play-offs but hope I am proved wrong.
I think we might get ahead of either Forest or Reading but not both and suspect that Wigan will finish above us.
We have played well against the better sides like QPR, Burnley, Leicester and Wigan (even though we lost to them at home) but have suffered by not picking up points as we should have done against teams lower in the league. Last nights excellent result endorsed that.
What was pleasing yesterday was the (more) clinical finishing which resulted in the two goals. How refreshing to see that for once we scored more than one goal. Lets hope that continues.
Changing the subject I was pleased that Dunk had a good game but still wonder if we would be wise to add another CB as cover before the loan window closes as an insurance (budget permitting) since having only 3 CB's leaves us potentially vulnerable.
By contrast,with Hoskins and CMS coming back into the equation probably by April, we should have enough attacking options for the rest of the season. However I wouldn't object to an attacking midfielder being added on loan as cover for Orlandi. Such a move might not be required per se but once the window closes (in 2 weeks) we won't have the option of getting someone in if the need arises. Of course it is quite possible that Lingard might adopt that role.
We should have a clearer idea of where we are by the end of this month (4 more matches). It should be an interesting next 2 1/2 weeks. UTA.
[quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: For me it's very simple. If we carry on playing as we have (which is a very decent standard, but not quite promotion form), I think we'll come up just short. But if Lingard starts knocking them in as he did for Birmingham that will make all the difference and we'll make the pay-offs. One player can make all the difference. Look at Derby..... they were flying when Patrick Bamford was knocking them in. Now he's lost a bit of form they haven't scored in 3 games.[/p][/quote]Good post Quiterie and I too feel we will come up just short of the play-offs but hope I am proved wrong. I think we might get ahead of either Forest or Reading but not both and suspect that Wigan will finish above us. We have played well against the better sides like QPR, Burnley, Leicester and Wigan (even though we lost to them at home) but have suffered by not picking up points as we should have done against teams lower in the league. Last nights excellent result endorsed that. What was pleasing yesterday was the (more) clinical finishing which resulted in the two goals. How refreshing to see that for once we scored more than one goal. Lets hope that continues. Changing the subject I was pleased that Dunk had a good game but still wonder if we would be wise to add another CB as cover before the loan window closes as an insurance (budget permitting) since having only 3 CB's leaves us potentially vulnerable. By contrast,with Hoskins and CMS coming back into the equation probably by April, we should have enough attacking options for the rest of the season. However I wouldn't object to an attacking midfielder being added on loan as cover for Orlandi. Such a move might not be required per se but once the window closes (in 2 weeks) we won't have the option of getting someone in if the need arises. Of course it is quite possible that Lingard might adopt that role. We should have a clearer idea of where we are by the end of this month (4 more matches). It should be an interesting next 2 1/2 weeks. UTA. ballantrrae
  • Score: 9

4:22pm Wed 12 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

Tommy11 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Tommy11 wrote: It really does make me laugh when the people on this feed who are so positive about the way we played, don't actually attend the matches! Look, I’m not having a go at you (Vegas & ex Pat Arnie etc...) but you cannot get an accurate assessment of the game by watching seagulls pod and other internet methods! It was a great win – but listen, we were awful throughout! It was very negative tactics, boring football and if it was not for the defence and TK (who have all been excellent all season) we would have lost the match - once that first goal went in. What made me laugh is when us (the fans) actually made the substitution….from the 60th minute we (in the WSU) were screaming for Lua Lua to come on – it took Garcia to work this out on 70ish..and guess what – we scored 2 goals and won the game. You can say what you want people – but it was us the fans who made that call. Despite the win – I’m telling you the Argus & readers – we will NOT make the play offs this year. Reason being: Were not good enough and we are very lucky to be sitting in 7th spot. I’m also not happy at all by the way we play. I would rather go for it from the start, but lose – we pay a lot of money for attending the matches & ST’s, and in truth – we play with no attacking system at all and when a player starts to attack they look like a lost little boy – they don’t know what to do with it. There is no plan!! Rule number 1 with Oscar. Shut Out the attack. Rule Number 2 with Oscar. Shut Out the attack. That’s it. All you people who think I’m negative. Forgive me. I do admire you optimism! I truly do. But do you really think we are GOOD enough to get in the play offs?? Really? Do we actually want that? We could fluke it maybe, but surely that would create a bigger mess for the club that we all love? As Claude Back says – do I think we could have done better if we had not been so defensive until the second half? Absolutely 100%.... and to add a spanner in the woodworks – do I think we would be in a better position with a gutsy manager such as Rosler & Holloway – Absolutely 100%. I’m apologise I’m being so ‘negative’. But you have heard it hear. The wheels will come off the Oscar Bus very soon and WE will be found out. This Argus feed will have a different tone come October this year, when we are languishing in the bottom half of the table with the majority (if not all) our stars gone. Unless we act in the summer - this is where were heading – it’s just a reality check people! In Oscar – I don’t trust.
All that you have written is based on your opinion, and that's cool, but just because some of us are across the waters, doesn't mean that we have to agree with what you write. There are many comments that differ to yours from people that were there, are they all wrong too, or do they simply have a different opinion. Perhaps you are suggesting that we expats should not voice an opinion about anything Brighton And Hove Albion, perhaps we should just read your words and take them as gospel. I have told you before, and I tell you again, check what I write, I don't comment of performances that I don't see.
I never said you had to agree with me Vegas....and I said i'm not having a go at you. It is my opinion.

You say that you don't comment on peformances...well maybe so - therefore your opinions then are based entirley on stats? is that what your telling me? -which I have been telling you now for the last year!

No one has to agree with me - this is a forum, its no point us all sitting here happy clappy and saying how wonderful we are. Without the objective fans, this comment section would be nothing.
no, do you not get it, I DON'T COMMENT ON WHAT I DON'T SEE PERIOD. I have not offered an opinion on any player based on anything including stats.

General comments such as, 'I think Oscar has done well this season given all the injuries,' does not require me to be at the matches, our results speak for themselves.
"Our defense was rock solid last night,' again the facts speak for themselves, QPR piled on the pressure but we kept a clean sheet.
Lastly, any fan of any club based anywhere in the world, might want to comment on what they think, hope and fear regarding their club, they shouldn't have to consider whether their words pass your test of what is right or wrong or others who think as you do.
[quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: It really does make me laugh when the people on this feed who are so positive about the way we played, don't actually attend the matches! Look, I’m not having a go at you (Vegas & ex Pat Arnie etc...) but you cannot get an accurate assessment of the game by watching seagulls pod and other internet methods! It was a great win – but listen, we were awful throughout! It was very negative tactics, boring football and if it was not for the defence and TK (who have all been excellent all season) we would have lost the match - once that first goal went in. What made me laugh is when us (the fans) actually made the substitution….from the 60th minute we (in the WSU) were screaming for Lua Lua to come on – it took Garcia to work this out on 70ish..and guess what – we scored 2 goals and won the game. You can say what you want people – but it was us the fans who made that call. Despite the win – I’m telling you the Argus & readers – we will NOT make the play offs this year. Reason being: Were not good enough and we are very lucky to be sitting in 7th spot. I’m also not happy at all by the way we play. I would rather go for it from the start, but lose – we pay a lot of money for attending the matches & ST’s, and in truth – we play with no attacking system at all and when a player starts to attack they look like a lost little boy – they don’t know what to do with it. There is no plan!! Rule number 1 with Oscar. Shut Out the attack. Rule Number 2 with Oscar. Shut Out the attack. That’s it. All you people who think I’m negative. Forgive me. I do admire you optimism! I truly do. But do you really think we are GOOD enough to get in the play offs?? Really? Do we actually want that? We could fluke it maybe, but surely that would create a bigger mess for the club that we all love? As Claude Back says – do I think we could have done better if we had not been so defensive until the second half? Absolutely 100%.... and to add a spanner in the woodworks – do I think we would be in a better position with a gutsy manager such as Rosler & Holloway – Absolutely 100%. I’m apologise I’m being so ‘negative’. But you have heard it hear. The wheels will come off the Oscar Bus very soon and WE will be found out. This Argus feed will have a different tone come October this year, when we are languishing in the bottom half of the table with the majority (if not all) our stars gone. Unless we act in the summer - this is where were heading – it’s just a reality check people! In Oscar – I don’t trust.[/p][/quote]All that you have written is based on your opinion, and that's cool, but just because some of us are across the waters, doesn't mean that we have to agree with what you write. There are many comments that differ to yours from people that were there, are they all wrong too, or do they simply have a different opinion. Perhaps you are suggesting that we expats should not voice an opinion about anything Brighton And Hove Albion, perhaps we should just read your words and take them as gospel. I have told you before, and I tell you again, check what I write, I don't comment of performances that I don't see.[/p][/quote]I never said you had to agree with me Vegas....and I said i'm not having a go at you. It is my opinion. You say that you don't comment on peformances...well maybe so - therefore your opinions then are based entirley on stats? is that what your telling me? -which I have been telling you now for the last year! No one has to agree with me - this is a forum, its no point us all sitting here happy clappy and saying how wonderful we are. Without the objective fans, this comment section would be nothing.[/p][/quote]no, do you not get it, I DON'T COMMENT ON WHAT I DON'T SEE PERIOD. I have not offered an opinion on any player based on anything including stats. General comments such as, 'I think Oscar has done well this season given all the injuries,' does not require me to be at the matches, our results speak for themselves. "Our defense was rock solid last night,' again the facts speak for themselves, QPR piled on the pressure but we kept a clean sheet. Lastly, any fan of any club based anywhere in the world, might want to comment on what they think, hope and fear regarding their club, they shouldn't have to consider whether their words pass your test of what is right or wrong or others who think as you do. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 7

4:24pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Albion fan in London says...

Tommy11 wrote:
It really does make me laugh when the people on this feed who are so positive about the way we played, don't actually attend the matches! Look, I’m not having a go at you (Vegas & ex Pat Arnie etc...) but you cannot get an accurate assessment of the game by watching seagulls pod and other internet methods!

It was a great win – but listen, we were awful throughout! It was very negative tactics, boring football and if it was not for the defence and TK (who have all been excellent all season) we would have lost the match - once that first goal went in. What made me laugh is when us (the fans) actually made the substitution….from the 60th minute we (in the WSU) were screaming for Lua Lua to come on – it took Garcia to work this out on 70ish..and guess what – we scored 2 goals and won the game. You can say what you want people – but it was us the fans who made that call.

Despite the win – I’m telling you the Argus & readers – we will NOT make the play offs this year. Reason being: Were not good enough and we are very lucky to be sitting in 7th spot. I’m also not happy at all by the way we play. I would rather go for it from the start, but lose – we pay a lot of money for attending the matches & ST’s, and in truth – we play with no attacking system at all and when a player starts to attack they look like a lost little boy – they don’t know what to do with it. There is no plan!!

Rule number 1 with Oscar. Shut Out the attack. Rule Number 2 with Oscar. Shut Out the attack. That’s it.

All you people who think I’m negative. Forgive me. I do admire you optimism! I truly do. But do you really think we are GOOD enough to get in the play offs?? Really? Do we actually want that? We could fluke it maybe, but surely that would create a bigger mess for the club that we all love?

As Claude Back says – do I think we could have done better if we had not been so defensive until the second half? Absolutely 100%.... and to add a spanner in the woodworks – do I think we would be in a better position with a gutsy manager such as Rosler & Holloway – Absolutely 100%.

I’m apologise I’m being so ‘negative’. But you have heard it hear. The wheels will come off the Oscar Bus very soon and WE will be found out. This Argus feed will have a different tone come October this year, when we are languishing in the bottom half of the table with the majority (if not all) our stars gone. Unless we act in the summer - this is where were heading – it’s just a reality check people!

In Oscar – I don’t trust.
CHECK OUT THE PRO FOOTBALL MANAGER ON THE ARGUS WEBSITE- HAVE YOU SENT YOUR CV TO TONY BLOOM YET !!??

Its quite unbelievable that you actually attended the game and can say we were terrible throughout, I mean what game were you watching?? How can you beat a team 4th in the division and be terrible throughout its a total contradiction within itself. Well done for noticing the tactical genius move of bringing on Lua Lua , Im sure OG will be in touch with you all re team selection ahead of the Bolton game!!

If its so boring and you clearly don't enjoy it why do you go?!

Judge our coach at the end of the season, he's done bloo#y well considering- I am 100% Oscar we trust- a great young coach who will do very well for us.

Strange post

UTA
[quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: It really does make me laugh when the people on this feed who are so positive about the way we played, don't actually attend the matches! Look, I’m not having a go at you (Vegas & ex Pat Arnie etc...) but you cannot get an accurate assessment of the game by watching seagulls pod and other internet methods! It was a great win – but listen, we were awful throughout! It was very negative tactics, boring football and if it was not for the defence and TK (who have all been excellent all season) we would have lost the match - once that first goal went in. What made me laugh is when us (the fans) actually made the substitution….from the 60th minute we (in the WSU) were screaming for Lua Lua to come on – it took Garcia to work this out on 70ish..and guess what – we scored 2 goals and won the game. You can say what you want people – but it was us the fans who made that call. Despite the win – I’m telling you the Argus & readers – we will NOT make the play offs this year. Reason being: Were not good enough and we are very lucky to be sitting in 7th spot. I’m also not happy at all by the way we play. I would rather go for it from the start, but lose – we pay a lot of money for attending the matches & ST’s, and in truth – we play with no attacking system at all and when a player starts to attack they look like a lost little boy – they don’t know what to do with it. There is no plan!! Rule number 1 with Oscar. Shut Out the attack. Rule Number 2 with Oscar. Shut Out the attack. That’s it. All you people who think I’m negative. Forgive me. I do admire you optimism! I truly do. But do you really think we are GOOD enough to get in the play offs?? Really? Do we actually want that? We could fluke it maybe, but surely that would create a bigger mess for the club that we all love? As Claude Back says – do I think we could have done better if we had not been so defensive until the second half? Absolutely 100%.... and to add a spanner in the woodworks – do I think we would be in a better position with a gutsy manager such as Rosler & Holloway – Absolutely 100%. I’m apologise I’m being so ‘negative’. But you have heard it hear. The wheels will come off the Oscar Bus very soon and WE will be found out. This Argus feed will have a different tone come October this year, when we are languishing in the bottom half of the table with the majority (if not all) our stars gone. Unless we act in the summer - this is where were heading – it’s just a reality check people! In Oscar – I don’t trust.[/p][/quote]CHECK OUT THE PRO FOOTBALL MANAGER ON THE ARGUS WEBSITE- HAVE YOU SENT YOUR CV TO TONY BLOOM YET !!?? Its quite unbelievable that you actually attended the game and can say we were terrible throughout, I mean what game were you watching?? How can you beat a team 4th in the division and be terrible throughout its a total contradiction within itself. Well done for noticing the tactical genius move of bringing on Lua Lua , Im sure OG will be in touch with you all re team selection ahead of the Bolton game!! If its so boring and you clearly don't enjoy it why do you go?! Judge our coach at the end of the season, he's done bloo#y well considering- I am 100% Oscar we trust- a great young coach who will do very well for us. Strange post UTA Albion fan in London
  • Score: 5

4:31pm Wed 12 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

Albion in London, I guess we have to take Tommy11 on face value when he says that he is a Brighton supporter and attends the matches. It does seem that he watched a different game than many others who commented on the teams performance of last evening.
Albion in London, I guess we have to take Tommy11 on face value when he says that he is a Brighton supporter and attends the matches. It does seem that he watched a different game than many others who commented on the teams performance of last evening. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

4:36pm Wed 12 Mar 14

albionfan33 says...

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  • Score: 0

4:39pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Asleep in Dorset says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Mark Dixon wrote:
Outplayed or not we still got the three points last night.

In my opinion l don't think we will reach the play off's for three reasons.

1. Too many drawn games especially at home.

2. Long term injuries of strikers.

3. Strikers we have had on loan just have not cut it, Rodrigues has done nothing really and the only time l saw the name Lingard's name on Sky Sports Live was when he committed a foul.
I respect your opinion but your three points are all about yesterday and not tomorrow.

Yes too many drawn games but there are still enough matches to come to get us over the line.
Yes long term injuries to strikers but CMS and Hoskins are just about to return.
Yes loanees have not produced, but for what ever reasons we really didn't use them. Lingard has only just arrived, far too early to access what impact he will have as our season goes forward.

You are right about yesterday, but with respect, I think you are writing off tomorrow too easily.
with respect, sir, Lingard put in a good shift last night .
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mark Dixon[/bold] wrote: Outplayed or not we still got the three points last night. In my opinion l don't think we will reach the play off's for three reasons. 1. Too many drawn games especially at home. 2. Long term injuries of strikers. 3. Strikers we have had on loan just have not cut it, Rodrigues has done nothing really and the only time l saw the name Lingard's name on Sky Sports Live was when he committed a foul.[/p][/quote]I respect your opinion but your three points are all about yesterday and not tomorrow. Yes too many drawn games but there are still enough matches to come to get us over the line. Yes long term injuries to strikers but CMS and Hoskins are just about to return. Yes loanees have not produced, but for what ever reasons we really didn't use them. Lingard has only just arrived, far too early to access what impact he will have as our season goes forward. You are right about yesterday, but with respect, I think you are writing off tomorrow too easily.[/p][/quote]with respect, sir, Lingard put in a good shift last night . Asleep in Dorset
  • Score: 3

4:45pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Albion fan in London says...

albionfan33 wrote:
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43966_n.jpg not u is it vegas?? hehe
its absolutely rife within the fan base at the amex that there is this trend of supporters/fans/onlo
okers I don't really know the name for them but they have this unreal expectation of what they should be seeing every week. Its almost as though they have just moved over from supporting a premier league team for the last 10-15 years when times were tough and now there back supporting the Albion again. I might be wrong Vegas.

On that note the amex was gleaming under the lights, yes we have played better but at 2-0 win v multi millionaire opponents, we cant complain can we?! ;))
[quote][p][bold]albionfan33[/bold] wrote: https://scontent-b-f ra.xx.fbcdn.net/hpho tos-prn2/t1/1920242_ 312827195509259_6160 43966_n.jpg not u is it vegas?? hehe[/p][/quote]its absolutely rife within the fan base at the amex that there is this trend of supporters/fans/onlo okers I don't really know the name for them but they have this unreal expectation of what they should be seeing every week. Its almost as though they have just moved over from supporting a premier league team for the last 10-15 years when times were tough and now there back supporting the Albion again. I might be wrong Vegas. On that note the amex was gleaming under the lights, yes we have played better but at 2-0 win v multi millionaire opponents, we cant complain can we?! ;)) Albion fan in London
  • Score: 5

4:46pm Wed 12 Mar 14

OldGull says...

Tommy11 wrote:
It really does make me laugh when the people on this feed who are so positive about the way we played, don't actually attend the matches! Look, I’m not having a go at you (Vegas & ex Pat Arnie etc...) but you cannot get an accurate assessment of the game by watching seagulls pod and other internet methods!

It was a great win – but listen, we were awful throughout! It was very negative tactics, boring football and if it was not for the defence and TK (who have all been excellent all season) we would have lost the match - once that first goal went in. What made me laugh is when us (the fans) actually made the substitution….from the 60th minute we (in the WSU) were screaming for Lua Lua to come on – it took Garcia to work this out on 70ish..and guess what – we scored 2 goals and won the game. You can say what you want people – but it was us the fans who made that call.

Despite the win – I’m telling you the Argus & readers – we will NOT make the play offs this year. Reason being: Were not good enough and we are very lucky to be sitting in 7th spot. I’m also not happy at all by the way we play. I would rather go for it from the start, but lose – we pay a lot of money for attending the matches & ST’s, and in truth – we play with no attacking system at all and when a player starts to attack they look like a lost little boy – they don’t know what to do with it. There is no plan!!

Rule number 1 with Oscar. Shut Out the attack. Rule Number 2 with Oscar. Shut Out the attack. That’s it.

All you people who think I’m negative. Forgive me. I do admire you optimism! I truly do. But do you really think we are GOOD enough to get in the play offs?? Really? Do we actually want that? We could fluke it maybe, but surely that would create a bigger mess for the club that we all love?

As Claude Back says – do I think we could have done better if we had not been so defensive until the second half? Absolutely 100%.... and to add a spanner in the woodworks – do I think we would be in a better position with a gutsy manager such as Rosler & Holloway – Absolutely 100%.

I’m apologise I’m being so ‘negative’. But you have heard it hear. The wheels will come off the Oscar Bus very soon and WE will be found out. This Argus feed will have a different tone come October this year, when we are languishing in the bottom half of the table with the majority (if not all) our stars gone. Unless we act in the summer - this is where were heading – it’s just a reality check people!

In Oscar – I don’t trust.
where in WSU do you sit?
I have a season ticket there and it is not all doom and gloom.
It was a good performance last night.
And believe me OG did not make the substitution because of a few of you ranting.
He was always going to bring on Kaz around the hour mark.
We all know Kaz operates best as a 30 min impact sub.

There are one or two whingers near us . One in particular who always has to hate 1 player
Navarro, Dicker, Painter, Crofts (last year) ,Barnes, Andrews ....
Is that you? If so please give up your season ticket, You wouldn't want to be there when the wheels come of
UTA
[quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: It really does make me laugh when the people on this feed who are so positive about the way we played, don't actually attend the matches! Look, I’m not having a go at you (Vegas & ex Pat Arnie etc...) but you cannot get an accurate assessment of the game by watching seagulls pod and other internet methods! It was a great win – but listen, we were awful throughout! It was very negative tactics, boring football and if it was not for the defence and TK (who have all been excellent all season) we would have lost the match - once that first goal went in. What made me laugh is when us (the fans) actually made the substitution….from the 60th minute we (in the WSU) were screaming for Lua Lua to come on – it took Garcia to work this out on 70ish..and guess what – we scored 2 goals and won the game. You can say what you want people – but it was us the fans who made that call. Despite the win – I’m telling you the Argus & readers – we will NOT make the play offs this year. Reason being: Were not good enough and we are very lucky to be sitting in 7th spot. I’m also not happy at all by the way we play. I would rather go for it from the start, but lose – we pay a lot of money for attending the matches & ST’s, and in truth – we play with no attacking system at all and when a player starts to attack they look like a lost little boy – they don’t know what to do with it. There is no plan!! Rule number 1 with Oscar. Shut Out the attack. Rule Number 2 with Oscar. Shut Out the attack. That’s it. All you people who think I’m negative. Forgive me. I do admire you optimism! I truly do. But do you really think we are GOOD enough to get in the play offs?? Really? Do we actually want that? We could fluke it maybe, but surely that would create a bigger mess for the club that we all love? As Claude Back says – do I think we could have done better if we had not been so defensive until the second half? Absolutely 100%.... and to add a spanner in the woodworks – do I think we would be in a better position with a gutsy manager such as Rosler & Holloway – Absolutely 100%. I’m apologise I’m being so ‘negative’. But you have heard it hear. The wheels will come off the Oscar Bus very soon and WE will be found out. This Argus feed will have a different tone come October this year, when we are languishing in the bottom half of the table with the majority (if not all) our stars gone. Unless we act in the summer - this is where were heading – it’s just a reality check people! In Oscar – I don’t trust.[/p][/quote]where in WSU do you sit? I have a season ticket there and it is not all doom and gloom. It was a good performance last night. And believe me OG did not make the substitution because of a few of you ranting. He was always going to bring on Kaz around the hour mark. We all know Kaz operates best as a 30 min impact sub. There are one or two whingers near us . One in particular who always has to hate 1 player Navarro, Dicker, Painter, Crofts (last year) ,Barnes, Andrews .... Is that you? If so please give up your season ticket, You wouldn't want to be there when the wheels come of UTA OldGull
  • Score: 5

4:58pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Hovite says...

Albion fan in London wrote:
Tommy11 wrote:
It really does make me laugh when the people on this feed who are so positive about the way we played, don't actually attend the matches! Look, I’m not having a go at you (Vegas & ex Pat Arnie etc...) but you cannot get an accurate assessment of the game by watching seagulls pod and other internet methods!

It was a great win – but listen, we were awful throughout! It was very negative tactics, boring football and if it was not for the defence and TK (who have all been excellent all season) we would have lost the match - once that first goal went in. What made me laugh is when us (the fans) actually made the substitution….from the 60th minute we (in the WSU) were screaming for Lua Lua to come on – it took Garcia to work this out on 70ish..and guess what – we scored 2 goals and won the game. You can say what you want people – but it was us the fans who made that call.

Despite the win – I’m telling you the Argus & readers – we will NOT make the play offs this year. Reason being: Were not good enough and we are very lucky to be sitting in 7th spot. I’m also not happy at all by the way we play. I would rather go for it from the start, but lose – we pay a lot of money for attending the matches & ST’s, and in truth – we play with no attacking system at all and when a player starts to attack they look like a lost little boy – they don’t know what to do with it. There is no plan!!

Rule number 1 with Oscar. Shut Out the attack. Rule Number 2 with Oscar. Shut Out the attack. That’s it.

All you people who think I’m negative. Forgive me. I do admire you optimism! I truly do. But do you really think we are GOOD enough to get in the play offs?? Really? Do we actually want that? We could fluke it maybe, but surely that would create a bigger mess for the club that we all love?

As Claude Back says – do I think we could have done better if we had not been so defensive until the second half? Absolutely 100%.... and to add a spanner in the woodworks – do I think we would be in a better position with a gutsy manager such as Rosler & Holloway – Absolutely 100%.

I’m apologise I’m being so ‘negative’. But you have heard it hear. The wheels will come off the Oscar Bus very soon and WE will be found out. This Argus feed will have a different tone come October this year, when we are languishing in the bottom half of the table with the majority (if not all) our stars gone. Unless we act in the summer - this is where were heading – it’s just a reality check people!

In Oscar – I don’t trust.
CHECK OUT THE PRO FOOTBALL MANAGER ON THE ARGUS WEBSITE- HAVE YOU SENT YOUR CV TO TONY BLOOM YET !!??

Its quite unbelievable that you actually attended the game and can say we were terrible throughout, I mean what game were you watching?? How can you beat a team 4th in the division and be terrible throughout its a total contradiction within itself. Well done for noticing the tactical genius move of bringing on Lua Lua , Im sure OG will be in touch with you all re team selection ahead of the Bolton game!!

If its so boring and you clearly don't enjoy it why do you go?!

Judge our coach at the end of the season, he's done bloo#y well considering- I am 100% Oscar we trust- a great young coach who will do very well for us.

Strange post

UTA
Of course Tommy didn’t attend the game, it was a terrific atmosphere and you don’t get that by playing rubbish. Massive ovation at the end for the players and Oscar which was reciprocated in equal measure.

The ref had a bad game and was QPR’s twelfth man, yet we were firm in defense, played as a team and scored two great killer goals, and the Amex was dancing.
[quote][p][bold]Albion fan in London[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: It really does make me laugh when the people on this feed who are so positive about the way we played, don't actually attend the matches! Look, I’m not having a go at you (Vegas & ex Pat Arnie etc...) but you cannot get an accurate assessment of the game by watching seagulls pod and other internet methods! It was a great win – but listen, we were awful throughout! It was very negative tactics, boring football and if it was not for the defence and TK (who have all been excellent all season) we would have lost the match - once that first goal went in. What made me laugh is when us (the fans) actually made the substitution….from the 60th minute we (in the WSU) were screaming for Lua Lua to come on – it took Garcia to work this out on 70ish..and guess what – we scored 2 goals and won the game. You can say what you want people – but it was us the fans who made that call. Despite the win – I’m telling you the Argus & readers – we will NOT make the play offs this year. Reason being: Were not good enough and we are very lucky to be sitting in 7th spot. I’m also not happy at all by the way we play. I would rather go for it from the start, but lose – we pay a lot of money for attending the matches & ST’s, and in truth – we play with no attacking system at all and when a player starts to attack they look like a lost little boy – they don’t know what to do with it. There is no plan!! Rule number 1 with Oscar. Shut Out the attack. Rule Number 2 with Oscar. Shut Out the attack. That’s it. All you people who think I’m negative. Forgive me. I do admire you optimism! I truly do. But do you really think we are GOOD enough to get in the play offs?? Really? Do we actually want that? We could fluke it maybe, but surely that would create a bigger mess for the club that we all love? As Claude Back says – do I think we could have done better if we had not been so defensive until the second half? Absolutely 100%.... and to add a spanner in the woodworks – do I think we would be in a better position with a gutsy manager such as Rosler & Holloway – Absolutely 100%. I’m apologise I’m being so ‘negative’. But you have heard it hear. The wheels will come off the Oscar Bus very soon and WE will be found out. This Argus feed will have a different tone come October this year, when we are languishing in the bottom half of the table with the majority (if not all) our stars gone. Unless we act in the summer - this is where were heading – it’s just a reality check people! In Oscar – I don’t trust.[/p][/quote]CHECK OUT THE PRO FOOTBALL MANAGER ON THE ARGUS WEBSITE- HAVE YOU SENT YOUR CV TO TONY BLOOM YET !!?? Its quite unbelievable that you actually attended the game and can say we were terrible throughout, I mean what game were you watching?? How can you beat a team 4th in the division and be terrible throughout its a total contradiction within itself. Well done for noticing the tactical genius move of bringing on Lua Lua , Im sure OG will be in touch with you all re team selection ahead of the Bolton game!! If its so boring and you clearly don't enjoy it why do you go?! Judge our coach at the end of the season, he's done bloo#y well considering- I am 100% Oscar we trust- a great young coach who will do very well for us. Strange post UTA[/p][/quote]Of course Tommy didn’t attend the game, it was a terrific atmosphere and you don’t get that by playing rubbish. Massive ovation at the end for the players and Oscar which was reciprocated in equal measure. The ref had a bad game and was QPR’s twelfth man, yet we were firm in defense, played as a team and scored two great killer goals, and the Amex was dancing. Hovite
  • Score: 7

5:03pm Wed 12 Mar 14

mark by the sea says...

Vegas , I can't believe people are right or wrong in these comments, we have appeared to paper over the cracks of last night, had QPR scored 2 in the late second half and again with 15 minutes to go, we defended amazingly, but with good fortune smiling for a change, I sensed at 1-0 they would score and the save by TK from Morrison was as good as I have seen zt the Amex since it was built.
Can we get into the play offs is the question, ?
Here are two stats that may make some realise how fine success and failure are.
1) we have let in the same number of goals as QPR , but they have score 3 more than us, however they have won 3 more games?
2) had we scored penalties at the championship average last year we would have been automatically promoted!
I am lambasted on this site for various reasons, probably because I see the negatives .
One thing I will say is we create very little in terms of goals, yes you state we are two points better off than last year, how many goals had we scored at this time?
End of last season we had scored 69 and ended up in fourth, I do think other sides like Qpr and forest are stronger , ... But in that, the truth is the season could be down to forest away, I would take that now ! Last year I felt we would make top 2,
Reality is our season will be defined by ulloa staying fit and hitting the net.
Vegas , I can't believe people are right or wrong in these comments, we have appeared to paper over the cracks of last night, had QPR scored 2 in the late second half and again with 15 minutes to go, we defended amazingly, but with good fortune smiling for a change, I sensed at 1-0 they would score and the save by TK from Morrison was as good as I have seen zt the Amex since it was built. Can we get into the play offs is the question, ? Here are two stats that may make some realise how fine success and failure are. 1) we have let in the same number of goals as QPR , but they have score 3 more than us, however they have won 3 more games? 2) had we scored penalties at the championship average last year we would have been automatically promoted! I am lambasted on this site for various reasons, probably because I see the negatives . One thing I will say is we create very little in terms of goals, yes you state we are two points better off than last year, how many goals had we scored at this time? End of last season we had scored 69 and ended up in fourth, I do think other sides like Qpr and forest are stronger , ... But in that, the truth is the season could be down to forest away, I would take that now ! Last year I felt we would make top 2, Reality is our season will be defined by ulloa staying fit and hitting the net. mark by the sea
  • Score: 6

5:19pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Hovite says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Vegas , I can't believe people are right or wrong in these comments, we have appeared to paper over the cracks of last night, had QPR scored 2 in the late second half and again with 15 minutes to go, we defended amazingly, but with good fortune smiling for a change, I sensed at 1-0 they would score and the save by TK from Morrison was as good as I have seen zt the Amex since it was built.
Can we get into the play offs is the question, ?
Here are two stats that may make some realise how fine success and failure are.
1) we have let in the same number of goals as QPR , but they have score 3 more than us, however they have won 3 more games?
2) had we scored penalties at the championship average last year we would have been automatically promoted!
I am lambasted on this site for various reasons, probably because I see the negatives .
One thing I will say is we create very little in terms of goals, yes you state we are two points better off than last year, how many goals had we scored at this time?
End of last season we had scored 69 and ended up in fourth, I do think other sides like Qpr and forest are stronger , ... But in that, the truth is the season could be down to forest away, I would take that now ! Last year I felt we would make top 2,
Reality is our season will be defined by ulloa staying fit and hitting the net.
Ha ha, I never saw any post from you last year or ever saying you thought we could finish top 2. And you can't compare end of season goals scored to our current goal tally. This time last year the goal difference was +14 and this year it's +9.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Vegas , I can't believe people are right or wrong in these comments, we have appeared to paper over the cracks of last night, had QPR scored 2 in the late second half and again with 15 minutes to go, we defended amazingly, but with good fortune smiling for a change, I sensed at 1-0 they would score and the save by TK from Morrison was as good as I have seen zt the Amex since it was built. Can we get into the play offs is the question, ? Here are two stats that may make some realise how fine success and failure are. 1) we have let in the same number of goals as QPR , but they have score 3 more than us, however they have won 3 more games? 2) had we scored penalties at the championship average last year we would have been automatically promoted! I am lambasted on this site for various reasons, probably because I see the negatives . One thing I will say is we create very little in terms of goals, yes you state we are two points better off than last year, how many goals had we scored at this time? End of last season we had scored 69 and ended up in fourth, I do think other sides like Qpr and forest are stronger , ... But in that, the truth is the season could be down to forest away, I would take that now ! Last year I felt we would make top 2, Reality is our season will be defined by ulloa staying fit and hitting the net.[/p][/quote]Ha ha, I never saw any post from you last year or ever saying you thought we could finish top 2. And you can't compare end of season goals scored to our current goal tally. This time last year the goal difference was +14 and this year it's +9. Hovite
  • Score: 5

5:24pm Wed 12 Mar 14

mark by the sea says...

Hovite wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Vegas , I can't believe people are right or wrong in these comments, we have appeared to paper over the cracks of last night, had QPR scored 2 in the late second half and again with 15 minutes to go, we defended amazingly, but with good fortune smiling for a change, I sensed at 1-0 they would score and the save by TK from Morrison was as good as I have seen zt the Amex since it was built.
Can we get into the play offs is the question, ?
Here are two stats that may make some realise how fine success and failure are.
1) we have let in the same number of goals as QPR , but they have score 3 more than us, however they have won 3 more games?
2) had we scored penalties at the championship average last year we would have been automatically promoted!
I am lambasted on this site for various reasons, probably because I see the negatives .
One thing I will say is we create very little in terms of goals, yes you state we are two points better off than last year, how many goals had we scored at this time?
End of last season we had scored 69 and ended up in fourth, I do think other sides like Qpr and forest are stronger , ... But in that, the truth is the season could be down to forest away, I would take that now ! Last year I felt we would make top 2,
Reality is our season will be defined by ulloa staying fit and hitting the net.
Ha ha, I never saw any post from you last year or ever saying you thought we could finish top 2. And you can't compare end of season goals scored to our current goal tally. This time last year the goal difference was +14 and this year it's +9.
How many goals had we scored at this time last season?
Far to many are being scored by ulloa, which while he stays fit won't be a problem. As far as last night goes we defended amazingly, and we had a lot of luck! Which is probably the first time this season.
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Vegas , I can't believe people are right or wrong in these comments, we have appeared to paper over the cracks of last night, had QPR scored 2 in the late second half and again with 15 minutes to go, we defended amazingly, but with good fortune smiling for a change, I sensed at 1-0 they would score and the save by TK from Morrison was as good as I have seen zt the Amex since it was built. Can we get into the play offs is the question, ? Here are two stats that may make some realise how fine success and failure are. 1) we have let in the same number of goals as QPR , but they have score 3 more than us, however they have won 3 more games? 2) had we scored penalties at the championship average last year we would have been automatically promoted! I am lambasted on this site for various reasons, probably because I see the negatives . One thing I will say is we create very little in terms of goals, yes you state we are two points better off than last year, how many goals had we scored at this time? End of last season we had scored 69 and ended up in fourth, I do think other sides like Qpr and forest are stronger , ... But in that, the truth is the season could be down to forest away, I would take that now ! Last year I felt we would make top 2, Reality is our season will be defined by ulloa staying fit and hitting the net.[/p][/quote]Ha ha, I never saw any post from you last year or ever saying you thought we could finish top 2. And you can't compare end of season goals scored to our current goal tally. This time last year the goal difference was +14 and this year it's +9.[/p][/quote]How many goals had we scored at this time last season? Far to many are being scored by ulloa, which while he stays fit won't be a problem. As far as last night goes we defended amazingly, and we had a lot of luck! Which is probably the first time this season. mark by the sea
  • Score: 0

5:26pm Wed 12 Mar 14

bruce beckett says...

I don't have a problem with the post of Tommy11. Some people think Gus underachieved last season by only getting us to the playoffs.

I do, however, think we are overachieving this season (so far). We have one regular goalscorer and two wingers, neither of whom can last 90 minutes.

Look at the QPR midfield last night – Barton, Jenas, Hoilett, Traore, Morrison – all players with PL experience. Then look at ours: two rookies and two loanees.

I'd say beating Harry's mob 2-0 was a MASSIVE achievement, even if we did ride our luck at times.
I don't have a problem with the post of Tommy11. Some people think Gus underachieved last season by only getting us to the playoffs. I do, however, think we are overachieving this season (so far). We have one regular goalscorer and two wingers, neither of whom can last 90 minutes. Look at the QPR midfield last night – Barton, Jenas, Hoilett, Traore, Morrison – all players with PL experience. Then look at ours: two rookies and two loanees. I'd say beating Harry's mob 2-0 was a MASSIVE achievement, even if we did ride our luck at times. bruce beckett
  • Score: 2

6:23pm Wed 12 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

bruce beckett wrote:
I don't have a problem with the post of Tommy11. Some people think Gus underachieved last season by only getting us to the playoffs.

I do, however, think we are overachieving this season (so far). We have one regular goalscorer and two wingers, neither of whom can last 90 minutes.

Look at the QPR midfield last night – Barton, Jenas, Hoilett, Traore, Morrison – all players with PL experience. Then look at ours: two rookies and two loanees.

I'd say beating Harry's mob 2-0 was a MASSIVE achievement, even if we did ride our luck at times.
Bruce you are right, last night's win was massive, and yes due to the quality that QPR were able to send out against us, but isn't that a good thing?
Two rookies and a couple of loanees up against a top flight (by our standards) midfield, and we won 2-0, brilliant.
Yep Ulloa is the goal scorer, no arguing that, but don't forget we lost Crofts at a time when he too was scoring and Barnes, who was also contributing to our goal tally, decided that he would rather sit on the bench at Burnley than sign a new contract with us.

Now if the debate is about why haven't we replaced goal scoring Crofts and Barnes, that is a separate question. Can Lingard fill Crofts boots, too early to tell. Will Stephens bag 3 to 5 goals by the end of the season, possibly. I understand the perceived problem having Ulloa as our only goal scorer of note, but that only becomes an issue if he gets injured or loses form. CMS and Hoskins will soon be waiting in the wings and we have no idea what they might contribute to the remaining matches. Some appear to be worrying about what, 'might,' be a problem down the road but isn't a problem right now. Cross our bridges if and when we come to them, no need to build one just for the sake of it.
[quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: I don't have a problem with the post of Tommy11. Some people think Gus underachieved last season by only getting us to the playoffs. I do, however, think we are overachieving this season (so far). We have one regular goalscorer and two wingers, neither of whom can last 90 minutes. Look at the QPR midfield last night – Barton, Jenas, Hoilett, Traore, Morrison – all players with PL experience. Then look at ours: two rookies and two loanees. I'd say beating Harry's mob 2-0 was a MASSIVE achievement, even if we did ride our luck at times.[/p][/quote]Bruce you are right, last night's win was massive, and yes due to the quality that QPR were able to send out against us, but isn't that a good thing? Two rookies and a couple of loanees up against a top flight (by our standards) midfield, and we won 2-0, brilliant. Yep Ulloa is the goal scorer, no arguing that, but don't forget we lost Crofts at a time when he too was scoring and Barnes, who was also contributing to our goal tally, decided that he would rather sit on the bench at Burnley than sign a new contract with us. Now if the debate is about why haven't we replaced goal scoring Crofts and Barnes, that is a separate question. Can Lingard fill Crofts boots, too early to tell. Will Stephens bag 3 to 5 goals by the end of the season, possibly. I understand the perceived problem having Ulloa as our only goal scorer of note, but that only becomes an issue if he gets injured or loses form. CMS and Hoskins will soon be waiting in the wings and we have no idea what they might contribute to the remaining matches. Some appear to be worrying about what, 'might,' be a problem down the road but isn't a problem right now. Cross our bridges if and when we come to them, no need to build one just for the sake of it. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 11

6:33pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Reading fan in Brighton says...

NO CHANCE!!
NO CHANCE!! Reading fan in Brighton
  • Score: -5

6:40pm Wed 12 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

Mark, put your hand on your heart and tell me that it matters how we get three points from one of our playoff rivals. Tell me that is really matters that Ulloa is way ahead of our other players when it comes to scoring goals. Show me how it's important how we played when next we are up against a team fighting against relegation, and we come home with a 1-0 win. As a true fan of Brighton watching our team going into the business end of the season, a time when dog fight matches are the norm, does anything really count for anything other than getting as many points as possible, by any means possible.

There are many things, as fans, we could worry about but worrying does nothing. We only have one Ulloa, one TK, one Upson, one Ince, and arguably one Buckley, just as we only had one Crofts, we could worry about losing any of these guys but would worrying improve our performances? Maybe, for our own sanity, it is better to celebrate the fact that we have these players, celebrate the fact that we are in a good place in the table, I don't give a fig who scores and who doesn't just so long as we score, one goal two or three, don't care as it's the three points that count.
If we get the chance to play some stylish football against a team and come away with a win that's great, if we put in an average performance and get all three points, great, heck if we have to grind one out and get all three, i'll take that too. I don't care Mark how we get the points, not at this time of the year, let's just get them.
Mark, put your hand on your heart and tell me that it matters how we get three points from one of our playoff rivals. Tell me that is really matters that Ulloa is way ahead of our other players when it comes to scoring goals. Show me how it's important how we played when next we are up against a team fighting against relegation, and we come home with a 1-0 win. As a true fan of Brighton watching our team going into the business end of the season, a time when dog fight matches are the norm, does anything really count for anything other than getting as many points as possible, by any means possible. There are many things, as fans, we could worry about but worrying does nothing. We only have one Ulloa, one TK, one Upson, one Ince, and arguably one Buckley, just as we only had one Crofts, we could worry about losing any of these guys but would worrying improve our performances? Maybe, for our own sanity, it is better to celebrate the fact that we have these players, celebrate the fact that we are in a good place in the table, I don't give a fig who scores and who doesn't just so long as we score, one goal two or three, don't care as it's the three points that count. If we get the chance to play some stylish football against a team and come away with a win that's great, if we put in an average performance and get all three points, great, heck if we have to grind one out and get all three, i'll take that too. I don't care Mark how we get the points, not at this time of the year, let's just get them. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 7

6:50pm Wed 12 Mar 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Mark, put your hand on your heart and tell me that it matters how we get three points from one of our playoff rivals. Tell me that is really matters that Ulloa is way ahead of our other players when it comes to scoring goals. Show me how it's important how we played when next we are up against a team fighting against relegation, and we come home with a 1-0 win. As a true fan of Brighton watching our team going into the business end of the season, a time when dog fight matches are the norm, does anything really count for anything other than getting as many points as possible, by any means possible.

There are many things, as fans, we could worry about but worrying does nothing. We only have one Ulloa, one TK, one Upson, one Ince, and arguably one Buckley, just as we only had one Crofts, we could worry about losing any of these guys but would worrying improve our performances? Maybe, for our own sanity, it is better to celebrate the fact that we have these players, celebrate the fact that we are in a good place in the table, I don't give a fig who scores and who doesn't just so long as we score, one goal two or three, don't care as it's the three points that count.
If we get the chance to play some stylish football against a team and come away with a win that's great, if we put in an average performance and get all three points, great, heck if we have to grind one out and get all three, i'll take that too. I don't care Mark how we get the points, not at this time of the year, let's just get them.
In my post Vegas I state we were lucky for the first time this season,
I do feel as I have all season goals need to come from other areas,
The lad lingard will score goals...
I suppose real point is we were the bride last year, this season it feels like the bridesmaid!
But again that's fine, palace were poor end of season and they got promoted ,
Tommy 11 is right though, some fans think only managers can see changes',
And going for it at 0-0 not only got us three points, but saved the one we had!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Mark, put your hand on your heart and tell me that it matters how we get three points from one of our playoff rivals. Tell me that is really matters that Ulloa is way ahead of our other players when it comes to scoring goals. Show me how it's important how we played when next we are up against a team fighting against relegation, and we come home with a 1-0 win. As a true fan of Brighton watching our team going into the business end of the season, a time when dog fight matches are the norm, does anything really count for anything other than getting as many points as possible, by any means possible. There are many things, as fans, we could worry about but worrying does nothing. We only have one Ulloa, one TK, one Upson, one Ince, and arguably one Buckley, just as we only had one Crofts, we could worry about losing any of these guys but would worrying improve our performances? Maybe, for our own sanity, it is better to celebrate the fact that we have these players, celebrate the fact that we are in a good place in the table, I don't give a fig who scores and who doesn't just so long as we score, one goal two or three, don't care as it's the three points that count. If we get the chance to play some stylish football against a team and come away with a win that's great, if we put in an average performance and get all three points, great, heck if we have to grind one out and get all three, i'll take that too. I don't care Mark how we get the points, not at this time of the year, let's just get them.[/p][/quote]In my post Vegas I state we were lucky for the first time this season, I do feel as I have all season goals need to come from other areas, The lad lingard will score goals... I suppose real point is we were the bride last year, this season it feels like the bridesmaid! But again that's fine, palace were poor end of season and they got promoted , Tommy 11 is right though, some fans think only managers can see changes', And going for it at 0-0 not only got us three points, but saved the one we had! mark by the sea
  • Score: 1

6:57pm Wed 12 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

I see that QPR, Brighton and others are looking to make a move for young defender Jordan Spence currently on loan with MK Dons, and I think Arry and his board are planning to be ready for the huge fines heading their way.

Every time a player of any quality becomes available, or a young prospect pops up, QPR are reported to be after him. I think what QPR are doing is building a mass of players now, spending money they haven't got, so that when they are not allowed to spend, or are paying off a massive fine and won't be able to afford to spend, they will have players to call on. What's another million or two when you are 60+ million over spent.
QPR don't need this kid but if they get him on a free and give him a three year deal, he will help them when they have to sell off a whole bunch of players, a prospect for the time when QPR won't have any prospects, other than being relegated back down to the champ div. I bet you that we see QPR continue to sign players come the next window, all on three year, or better, deals after all, the FFP punishments won't kick in until December of next year.
I see that QPR, Brighton and others are looking to make a move for young defender Jordan Spence currently on loan with MK Dons, and I think Arry and his board are planning to be ready for the huge fines heading their way. Every time a player of any quality becomes available, or a young prospect pops up, QPR are reported to be after him. I think what QPR are doing is building a mass of players now, spending money they haven't got, so that when they are not allowed to spend, or are paying off a massive fine and won't be able to afford to spend, they will have players to call on. What's another million or two when you are 60+ million over spent. QPR don't need this kid but if they get him on a free and give him a three year deal, he will help them when they have to sell off a whole bunch of players, a prospect for the time when QPR won't have any prospects, other than being relegated back down to the champ div. I bet you that we see QPR continue to sign players come the next window, all on three year, or better, deals after all, the FFP punishments won't kick in until December of next year. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

7:05pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Hovite says...

Reading fan in Brighton wrote:
NO CHANCE!!
Haha, couldn't beat us when playing against 10 men, come to think of it you couldn't beat 8 man Yeovil
[quote][p][bold]Reading fan in Brighton[/bold] wrote: NO CHANCE!![/p][/quote]Haha, couldn't beat us when playing against 10 men, come to think of it you couldn't beat 8 man Yeovil Hovite
  • Score: 6

7:14pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Reading fan in Brighton wrote:
NO CHANCE!!
Wow, STILL bitter several days later! Go and have a lie down.
[quote][p][bold]Reading fan in Brighton[/bold] wrote: NO CHANCE!![/p][/quote]Wow, STILL bitter several days later! Go and have a lie down. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 4

7:36pm Wed 12 Mar 14

fratsomrover says...

bruce beckett wrote:
I don't have a problem with the post of Tommy11. Some people think Gus underachieved last season by only getting us to the playoffs.

I do, however, think we are overachieving this season (so far). We have one regular goalscorer and two wingers, neither of whom can last 90 minutes.

Look at the QPR midfield last night – Barton, Jenas, Hoilett, Traore, Morrison – all players with PL experience. Then look at ours: two rookies and two loanees.

I'd say beating Harry's mob 2-0 was a MASSIVE achievement, even if we did ride our luck at times.
I pretty much agree with you Bruce & Tommy11. Last night was a brilliant result and a massive achievement. We were second best and we rode our luck but football is often like that. You hang in there and hope for a break. Last night we got it.
Of the teams I've seen down here this season, Derby, QPR and Reading looked different class. Yet we still took 4 points off QPR and shared the spoils with Reading. We totally outplayed Wigan, but lost, looked second best v Leicester and won. Such is football.
We're nearly there, but it is the results against the poorer teams like Barnsley, Shef Wed, Charlton & Huddersfield that make the difference.
Player for player we could not match QPR last night, and although we got the result, the game did highlight the rift between some of our players and those from the stronger teams.
But I take great pleasure and pride that the likes of Ince, JFC, March and Dunk are home grown talents who can compete against these stars and hold their own.
I particularly enjoyed Ulloa tussle with Clint Hill. It was probably Leo's toughest game and Hill really imposed his presence over him. Yet Leo never gives up and it speaks volumes for his tenacity and commitment that he still managed to lose his man to get his foot on Bruno's cross. It was probably Hill's only mistake.
Other than that, I was a tad disappointed in WB. He looks low on confidence to me and reluctant to run at people as he did last season. I was expecting March to take over from him after about 75 mins, but it didn't happen. Low confidence is not something March shows.
Jesse Lingard to me looked a development squad player up against some seasoned pros. He looks to me like one of those players you want to get on the ball in your opponents penalty area, because he is sharp and elusive. He's not so effective around the half way line, but it was a tough game for him and he may do better against some of the less powerful clubs. Again I was expecting Lua Lua to replace him after 70 mins, but in fact Kaz replaced JFC which I couldn't quite work out. I would have thought Stephens would have been a better replacement for JFC.
We're still in the mix but with 5 away games in our next 7 matches it's going to be a tough call to stay in touch and it may well be the results of others around us who may ultimately decide our fate.
[quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: I don't have a problem with the post of Tommy11. Some people think Gus underachieved last season by only getting us to the playoffs. I do, however, think we are overachieving this season (so far). We have one regular goalscorer and two wingers, neither of whom can last 90 minutes. Look at the QPR midfield last night – Barton, Jenas, Hoilett, Traore, Morrison – all players with PL experience. Then look at ours: two rookies and two loanees. I'd say beating Harry's mob 2-0 was a MASSIVE achievement, even if we did ride our luck at times.[/p][/quote]I pretty much agree with you Bruce & Tommy11. Last night was a brilliant result and a massive achievement. We were second best and we rode our luck but football is often like that. You hang in there and hope for a break. Last night we got it. Of the teams I've seen down here this season, Derby, QPR and Reading looked different class. Yet we still took 4 points off QPR and shared the spoils with Reading. We totally outplayed Wigan, but lost, looked second best v Leicester and won. Such is football. We're nearly there, but it is the results against the poorer teams like Barnsley, Shef Wed, Charlton & Huddersfield that make the difference. Player for player we could not match QPR last night, and although we got the result, the game did highlight the rift between some of our players and those from the stronger teams. But I take great pleasure and pride that the likes of Ince, JFC, March and Dunk are home grown talents who can compete against these stars and hold their own. I particularly enjoyed Ulloa tussle with Clint Hill. It was probably Leo's toughest game and Hill really imposed his presence over him. Yet Leo never gives up and it speaks volumes for his tenacity and commitment that he still managed to lose his man to get his foot on Bruno's cross. It was probably Hill's only mistake. Other than that, I was a tad disappointed in WB. He looks low on confidence to me and reluctant to run at people as he did last season. I was expecting March to take over from him after about 75 mins, but it didn't happen. Low confidence is not something March shows. Jesse Lingard to me looked a development squad player up against some seasoned pros. He looks to me like one of those players you want to get on the ball in your opponents penalty area, because he is sharp and elusive. He's not so effective around the half way line, but it was a tough game for him and he may do better against some of the less powerful clubs. Again I was expecting Lua Lua to replace him after 70 mins, but in fact Kaz replaced JFC which I couldn't quite work out. I would have thought Stephens would have been a better replacement for JFC. We're still in the mix but with 5 away games in our next 7 matches it's going to be a tough call to stay in touch and it may well be the results of others around us who may ultimately decide our fate. fratsomrover
  • Score: -2

7:51pm Wed 12 Mar 14

gordongull says...

Yes, I think we are more likely to finish in the top six.
It will depend on three factors:
1 - It is vital that certain players, not just Ulloa, remain injury-free.
2 - A continuation of the inconsistency that is affecting some of the other contenders.
3 - For Oscar to accept that with scores level after sixty minutes, THE POINT IS NOT WORTH PROTECTING. The only result relevant to us is the three points available for a win. Draws will not get us anywhere near the points total that we need.
Yes, I think we are more likely to finish in the top six. It will depend on three factors: 1 - It is vital that certain players, not just Ulloa, remain injury-free. 2 - A continuation of the inconsistency that is affecting some of the other contenders. 3 - For Oscar to accept that with scores level after sixty minutes, THE POINT IS NOT WORTH PROTECTING. The only result relevant to us is the three points available for a win. Draws will not get us anywhere near the points total that we need. gordongull
  • Score: 5

7:52pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Far gull says...

All these comment s if Leo stays fit ,if,if. Lots of facts!!!!!!!!
Fact Palace last season promoted because they had for most of season a fit Glenn Murray then when he was injured The best played in the league bar none last season in zaha.
Simple Leo stays fit we have a chance but I also think with Jesse and returning players we will have options.
Side note I wonder if Man U would not let Jesse come if he was not played as much as possible because he is getting game time.
All these comment s if Leo stays fit ,if,if. Lots of facts!!!!!!!! Fact Palace last season promoted because they had for most of season a fit Glenn Murray then when he was injured The best played in the league bar none last season in zaha. Simple Leo stays fit we have a chance but I also think with Jesse and returning players we will have options. Side note I wonder if Man U would not let Jesse come if he was not played as much as possible because he is getting game time. Far gull
  • Score: 2

8:01pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Conelli98 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
AlanDuffy wrote:
That's two games now where we've been outplayed and picked up 4 points, yet we dominated Wigan and lost - work that one out. Like Reading, QPR have a lot of skilful, quick forwards and attacking midfielders and we had to soak up a lot of pressure and ride our luck a little, but for me it just shows what a good job the coaching team are doing. Every time we lose there are idiots on here calling for the head of the manager and all-out attacking football, but Oscar has to work with what he's given. The fact that we are where we are is a testament to good management and tactical nouse. Of course, we all love to watch flowing football and plenty of goals, but my view is that if we'd played as many on here would want us to, we'd be in the bottom half of the table - scoring but losing - a bit like Peterborough - but as we know results are everything, witness the response of the fans last night after soaking up the pressure and nicking a couple of late goals. I think Oscar has done a tremendous job in a difficult first season and wish people would remember that when things don't go so well.
I disagree, Alan and your statement is flawed. However, because I do not agree does not make me an idiot or lacking knowledge about football as you suggest.
Have we as good a team as last year? No.
Has Oscar improved the team? No.
Has Oscar recruited the best players he could? No.
Has his team selection been correct in most games? No.
Do most of us (that actually go) suspect wecould have done a lot better than we have done if we had not been so defensive until the second half? Yes.
Did Oscar have a less than an ideal pre-season preparation period? Yes.
Have we been plagued with injuries this season.? Yes.
Do we have 2 more points than we had at this time last year? Yes.
Are the FFP rules influencing our spending this year? Yes.
Have our younger players come on this year? Yes.
Are we maintaining our crowd numbers? Yes.
Are we looking good re season ticket sales for next year? Yes.
Is it easy to make a list of negative opinions? Yes.
Are opinions facts? No.
...are Crystal Palace poo? YES
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlanDuffy[/bold] wrote: That's two games now where we've been outplayed and picked up 4 points, yet we dominated Wigan and lost - work that one out. Like Reading, QPR have a lot of skilful, quick forwards and attacking midfielders and we had to soak up a lot of pressure and ride our luck a little, but for me it just shows what a good job the coaching team are doing. Every time we lose there are idiots on here calling for the head of the manager and all-out attacking football, but Oscar has to work with what he's given. The fact that we are where we are is a testament to good management and tactical nouse. Of course, we all love to watch flowing football and plenty of goals, but my view is that if we'd played as many on here would want us to, we'd be in the bottom half of the table - scoring but losing - a bit like Peterborough - but as we know results are everything, witness the response of the fans last night after soaking up the pressure and nicking a couple of late goals. I think Oscar has done a tremendous job in a difficult first season and wish people would remember that when things don't go so well.[/p][/quote]I disagree, Alan and your statement is flawed. However, because I do not agree does not make me an idiot or lacking knowledge about football as you suggest. Have we as good a team as last year? No. Has Oscar improved the team? No. Has Oscar recruited the best players he could? No. Has his team selection been correct in most games? No. Do most of us (that actually go) suspect wecould have done a lot better than we have done if we had not been so defensive until the second half? Yes.[/p][/quote]Did Oscar have a less than an ideal pre-season preparation period? Yes. Have we been plagued with injuries this season.? Yes. Do we have 2 more points than we had at this time last year? Yes. Are the FFP rules influencing our spending this year? Yes. Have our younger players come on this year? Yes. Are we maintaining our crowd numbers? Yes. Are we looking good re season ticket sales for next year? Yes. Is it easy to make a list of negative opinions? Yes. Are opinions facts? No.[/p][/quote]...are Crystal Palace poo? YES Conelli98
  • Score: 3

8:10pm Wed 12 Mar 14

ringtone says...

We can pat ourselves on the back and say we have a big fan base but the truth is the passion is missing, eg how many fans we take to away games, answer not many.

Its just not a football town, sorry.
We can pat ourselves on the back and say we have a big fan base but the truth is the passion is missing, eg how many fans we take to away games, answer not many. Its just not a football town, sorry. ringtone
  • Score: -5

8:51pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Eddy B says...

I think we'll come up just short, maybe 7th or 8th. There seem to be more better teams above us this season than last year - less likely to blow up. The real reason though is not them, it is us, we simply don't score enough goals.1 per game is unlikely to be enough for promotion.

However I have hope in the returning Buckley and Orlandi and a lucky break for Lingard to get him up and running.
I think we'll come up just short, maybe 7th or 8th. There seem to be more better teams above us this season than last year - less likely to blow up. The real reason though is not them, it is us, we simply don't score enough goals.1 per game is unlikely to be enough for promotion. However I have hope in the returning Buckley and Orlandi and a lucky break for Lingard to get him up and running. Eddy B
  • Score: 0

9:17pm Wed 12 Mar 14

gordongull says...

Eddy B wrote:
I think we'll come up just short, maybe 7th or 8th. There seem to be more better teams above us this season than last year - less likely to blow up. The real reason though is not them, it is us, we simply don't score enough goals.1 per game is unlikely to be enough for promotion.

However I have hope in the returning Buckley and Orlandi and a lucky break for Lingard to get him up and running.
Less likely to blow up???
Derby - 4 points from 4 games!
QPR - 4 points from 6 games!!!
Forest- 2 points from 5 games!!
Reading- 5 points from 4 games
Even a few of the sides below us have hit the buffers.
The recent results of our rivals gives us every reason to be optimistic.
[quote][p][bold]Eddy B[/bold] wrote: I think we'll come up just short, maybe 7th or 8th. There seem to be more better teams above us this season than last year - less likely to blow up. The real reason though is not them, it is us, we simply don't score enough goals.1 per game is unlikely to be enough for promotion. However I have hope in the returning Buckley and Orlandi and a lucky break for Lingard to get him up and running.[/p][/quote]Less likely to blow up??? Derby - 4 points from 4 games! QPR - 4 points from 6 games!!! Forest- 2 points from 5 games!! Reading- 5 points from 4 games Even a few of the sides below us have hit the buffers. The recent results of our rivals gives us every reason to be optimistic. gordongull
  • Score: 6

9:40pm Wed 12 Mar 14

mark by the sea says...

gordongull wrote:
Eddy B wrote:
I think we'll come up just short, maybe 7th or 8th. There seem to be more better teams above us this season than last year - less likely to blow up. The real reason though is not them, it is us, we simply don't score enough goals.1 per game is unlikely to be enough for promotion.

However I have hope in the returning Buckley and Orlandi and a lucky break for Lingard to get him up and running.
Less likely to blow up???
Derby - 4 points from 4 games!
QPR - 4 points from 6 games!!!
Forest- 2 points from 5 games!!
Reading- 5 points from 4 games
Even a few of the sides below us have hit the buffers.
The recent results of our rivals gives us every reason to be optimistic.
I think your right, anything can happen and I suspect it will,
Imagine promotion and Sunderland going down! How good would that be?
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eddy B[/bold] wrote: I think we'll come up just short, maybe 7th or 8th. There seem to be more better teams above us this season than last year - less likely to blow up. The real reason though is not them, it is us, we simply don't score enough goals.1 per game is unlikely to be enough for promotion. However I have hope in the returning Buckley and Orlandi and a lucky break for Lingard to get him up and running.[/p][/quote]Less likely to blow up??? Derby - 4 points from 4 games! QPR - 4 points from 6 games!!! Forest- 2 points from 5 games!! Reading- 5 points from 4 games Even a few of the sides below us have hit the buffers. The recent results of our rivals gives us every reason to be optimistic.[/p][/quote]I think your right, anything can happen and I suspect it will, Imagine promotion and Sunderland going down! How good would that be? mark by the sea
  • Score: 2

10:28pm Wed 12 Mar 14

oksouthstander says...

We will make the playoffs with !2 games to go and 36 points to play for. 24 points attainable making us 2 points better off than 4th place last season.Play offs here we come...With a better management & squad...
We will make the playoffs with !2 games to go and 36 points to play for. 24 points attainable making us 2 points better off than 4th place last season.Play offs here we come...With a better management & squad... oksouthstander
  • Score: 3

12:34am Thu 13 Mar 14

mickage says...

Do you lot realize you are 24 points behind first place and 1/3 of the way down the table..!.......put that into perspective when considering Brighton's realistic chances of promotion and subsequent success in the Premier league
Do you lot realize you are 24 points behind first place and 1/3 of the way down the table..!.......put that into perspective when considering Brighton's realistic chances of promotion and subsequent success in the Premier league mickage
  • Score: -1

1:47am Thu 13 Mar 14

Vince says...

mickage wrote:
Do you lot realize you are 24 points behind first place and 1/3 of the way down the table..!.......put that into perspective when considering Brighton's realistic chances of promotion and subsequent success in the Premier league
FACTS THAT PUTS YOUR COMMENT INTO PERSPECTIVE:-

Brighton 3 Leicester 1
Brighton 2 Burnley 0
Burnley 0 Brighton 0
QPR 0 Brighton 0
Brighton 2 QPR 0
Reading 0 Brighton 0
Brighton 1 Reading 1
Wigan 0 Brighton 1

Won 4 drawn 4 against probably the strongest teams in the Championship.

All deserved points for Albion.
The game where we dominated the most at home to Wigan - where their manager said how lucky they were to win 2-1 (one fluke rebound and the other straight from a corner).
Ask Rossler who he fears most in the play-offs - and odds-on he will say QPR and Brighton.

With Orlandi to soon be back, and with Lingard and Stephens beginning to settle in to our team formation, and with Leo Ulloa and Will Buckley starting to hit real form - I can see us finishing 6th.

Leicester 100 points
Burnley 86
Derby 82
QPR 80
Wigan 78
Brighton 75
Reading 74
Forest 73

Brighton v QPR Play-off final 2-1
[quote][p][bold]mickage[/bold] wrote: Do you lot realize you are 24 points behind first place and 1/3 of the way down the table..!.......put that into perspective when considering Brighton's realistic chances of promotion and subsequent success in the Premier league[/p][/quote]FACTS THAT PUTS YOUR COMMENT INTO PERSPECTIVE:- Brighton 3 Leicester 1 Brighton 2 Burnley 0 Burnley 0 Brighton 0 QPR 0 Brighton 0 Brighton 2 QPR 0 Reading 0 Brighton 0 Brighton 1 Reading 1 Wigan 0 Brighton 1 Won 4 drawn 4 against probably the strongest teams in the Championship. All deserved points for Albion. The game where we dominated the most at home to Wigan - where their manager said how lucky they were to win 2-1 (one fluke rebound and the other straight from a corner). Ask Rossler who he fears most in the play-offs - and odds-on he will say QPR and Brighton. With Orlandi to soon be back, and with Lingard and Stephens beginning to settle in to our team formation, and with Leo Ulloa and Will Buckley starting to hit real form - I can see us finishing 6th. Leicester 100 points Burnley 86 Derby 82 QPR 80 Wigan 78 Brighton 75 Reading 74 Forest 73 Brighton v QPR Play-off final 2-1 Vince
  • Score: 4

7:25am Thu 13 Mar 14

Far gull says...

Loving your optimism Vince
Loving your optimism Vince Far gull
  • Score: 3

8:55am Thu 13 Mar 14

dave from bexill says...

fratsomrover wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
I don't have a problem with the post of Tommy11. Some people think Gus underachieved last season by only getting us to the playoffs.

I do, however, think we are overachieving this season (so far). We have one regular goalscorer and two wingers, neither of whom can last 90 minutes.

Look at the QPR midfield last night – Barton, Jenas, Hoilett, Traore, Morrison – all players with PL experience. Then look at ours: two rookies and two loanees.

I'd say beating Harry's mob 2-0 was a MASSIVE achievement, even if we did ride our luck at times.
I pretty much agree with you Bruce & Tommy11. Last night was a brilliant result and a massive achievement. We were second best and we rode our luck but football is often like that. You hang in there and hope for a break. Last night we got it.
Of the teams I've seen down here this season, Derby, QPR and Reading looked different class. Yet we still took 4 points off QPR and shared the spoils with Reading. We totally outplayed Wigan, but lost, looked second best v Leicester and won. Such is football.
We're nearly there, but it is the results against the poorer teams like Barnsley, Shef Wed, Charlton & Huddersfield that make the difference.
Player for player we could not match QPR last night, and although we got the result, the game did highlight the rift between some of our players and those from the stronger teams.
But I take great pleasure and pride that the likes of Ince, JFC, March and Dunk are home grown talents who can compete against these stars and hold their own.
I particularly enjoyed Ulloa tussle with Clint Hill. It was probably Leo's toughest game and Hill really imposed his presence over him. Yet Leo never gives up and it speaks volumes for his tenacity and commitment that he still managed to lose his man to get his foot on Bruno's cross. It was probably Hill's only mistake.
Other than that, I was a tad disappointed in WB. He looks low on confidence to me and reluctant to run at people as he did last season. I was expecting March to take over from him after about 75 mins, but it didn't happen. Low confidence is not something March shows.
Jesse Lingard to me looked a development squad player up against some seasoned pros. He looks to me like one of those players you want to get on the ball in your opponents penalty area, because he is sharp and elusive. He's not so effective around the half way line, but it was a tough game for him and he may do better against some of the less powerful clubs. Again I was expecting Lua Lua to replace him after 70 mins, but in fact Kaz replaced JFC which I couldn't quite work out. I would have thought Stephens would have been a better replacement for JFC.
We're still in the mix but with 5 away games in our next 7 matches it's going to be a tough call to stay in touch and it may well be the results of others around us who may ultimately decide our fate.
Excellent post fratsomrover. I don't quite agree with everything you say, but a proper football person.
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: I don't have a problem with the post of Tommy11. Some people think Gus underachieved last season by only getting us to the playoffs. I do, however, think we are overachieving this season (so far). We have one regular goalscorer and two wingers, neither of whom can last 90 minutes. Look at the QPR midfield last night – Barton, Jenas, Hoilett, Traore, Morrison – all players with PL experience. Then look at ours: two rookies and two loanees. I'd say beating Harry's mob 2-0 was a MASSIVE achievement, even if we did ride our luck at times.[/p][/quote]I pretty much agree with you Bruce & Tommy11. Last night was a brilliant result and a massive achievement. We were second best and we rode our luck but football is often like that. You hang in there and hope for a break. Last night we got it. Of the teams I've seen down here this season, Derby, QPR and Reading looked different class. Yet we still took 4 points off QPR and shared the spoils with Reading. We totally outplayed Wigan, but lost, looked second best v Leicester and won. Such is football. We're nearly there, but it is the results against the poorer teams like Barnsley, Shef Wed, Charlton & Huddersfield that make the difference. Player for player we could not match QPR last night, and although we got the result, the game did highlight the rift between some of our players and those from the stronger teams. But I take great pleasure and pride that the likes of Ince, JFC, March and Dunk are home grown talents who can compete against these stars and hold their own. I particularly enjoyed Ulloa tussle with Clint Hill. It was probably Leo's toughest game and Hill really imposed his presence over him. Yet Leo never gives up and it speaks volumes for his tenacity and commitment that he still managed to lose his man to get his foot on Bruno's cross. It was probably Hill's only mistake. Other than that, I was a tad disappointed in WB. He looks low on confidence to me and reluctant to run at people as he did last season. I was expecting March to take over from him after about 75 mins, but it didn't happen. Low confidence is not something March shows. Jesse Lingard to me looked a development squad player up against some seasoned pros. He looks to me like one of those players you want to get on the ball in your opponents penalty area, because he is sharp and elusive. He's not so effective around the half way line, but it was a tough game for him and he may do better against some of the less powerful clubs. Again I was expecting Lua Lua to replace him after 70 mins, but in fact Kaz replaced JFC which I couldn't quite work out. I would have thought Stephens would have been a better replacement for JFC. We're still in the mix but with 5 away games in our next 7 matches it's going to be a tough call to stay in touch and it may well be the results of others around us who may ultimately decide our fate.[/p][/quote]Excellent post fratsomrover. I don't quite agree with everything you say, but a proper football person. dave from bexill
  • Score: 0

9:09am Thu 13 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mickage wrote:
Do you lot realize you are 24 points behind first place and 1/3 of the way down the table..!.......put that into perspective when considering Brighton's realistic chances of promotion and subsequent success in the Premier league
You do realise that promotion is not reliant on how many points yuo are behind the runaway leaders? In the Bundesliga Borussia Dortmund are 20 points behind the leaders, yet they are in second place. Also, we are only one place outside the playoffs... maybe you should consider THAT when reflecting on promotion chances.
[quote][p][bold]mickage[/bold] wrote: Do you lot realize you are 24 points behind first place and 1/3 of the way down the table..!.......put that into perspective when considering Brighton's realistic chances of promotion and subsequent success in the Premier league[/p][/quote]You do realise that promotion is not reliant on how many points yuo are behind the runaway leaders? In the Bundesliga Borussia Dortmund are 20 points behind the leaders, yet they are in second place. Also, we are only one place outside the playoffs... maybe you should consider THAT when reflecting on promotion chances. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 4

6:06pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Reading fan in Brighton says...

Vince wrote:
mickage wrote:
Do you lot realize you are 24 points behind first place and 1/3 of the way down the table..!.......put that into perspective when considering Brighton's realistic chances of promotion and subsequent success in the Premier league
FACTS THAT PUTS YOUR COMMENT INTO PERSPECTIVE:-

Brighton 3 Leicester 1
Brighton 2 Burnley 0
Burnley 0 Brighton 0
QPR 0 Brighton 0
Brighton 2 QPR 0
Reading 0 Brighton 0
Brighton 1 Reading 1
Wigan 0 Brighton 1

Won 4 drawn 4 against probably the strongest teams in the Championship.

All deserved points for Albion.
The game where we dominated the most at home to Wigan - where their manager said how lucky they were to win 2-1 (one fluke rebound and the other straight from a corner).
Ask Rossler who he fears most in the play-offs - and odds-on he will say QPR and Brighton.

With Orlandi to soon be back, and with Lingard and Stephens beginning to settle in to our team formation, and with Leo Ulloa and Will Buckley starting to hit real form - I can see us finishing 6th.

Leicester 100 points
Burnley 86
Derby 82
QPR 80
Wigan 78
Brighton 75
Reading 74
Forest 73

Brighton v QPR Play-off final 2-1
Deserved points? You were totally outplayed on Saturday, Reading 27 shots, Brighton 6 (1 on target). If we hadn't scored for you, you would still be playing now trying to score!!! Get your blinkers off, you can only go on being outplayed by the opposition and sneaking 1 - 0 wins for so long.....
[quote][p][bold]Vince[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickage[/bold] wrote: Do you lot realize you are 24 points behind first place and 1/3 of the way down the table..!.......put that into perspective when considering Brighton's realistic chances of promotion and subsequent success in the Premier league[/p][/quote]FACTS THAT PUTS YOUR COMMENT INTO PERSPECTIVE:- Brighton 3 Leicester 1 Brighton 2 Burnley 0 Burnley 0 Brighton 0 QPR 0 Brighton 0 Brighton 2 QPR 0 Reading 0 Brighton 0 Brighton 1 Reading 1 Wigan 0 Brighton 1 Won 4 drawn 4 against probably the strongest teams in the Championship. All deserved points for Albion. The game where we dominated the most at home to Wigan - where their manager said how lucky they were to win 2-1 (one fluke rebound and the other straight from a corner). Ask Rossler who he fears most in the play-offs - and odds-on he will say QPR and Brighton. With Orlandi to soon be back, and with Lingard and Stephens beginning to settle in to our team formation, and with Leo Ulloa and Will Buckley starting to hit real form - I can see us finishing 6th. Leicester 100 points Burnley 86 Derby 82 QPR 80 Wigan 78 Brighton 75 Reading 74 Forest 73 Brighton v QPR Play-off final 2-1[/p][/quote]Deserved points? You were totally outplayed on Saturday, Reading 27 shots, Brighton 6 (1 on target). If we hadn't scored for you, you would still be playing now trying to score!!! Get your blinkers off, you can only go on being outplayed by the opposition and sneaking 1 - 0 wins for so long..... Reading fan in Brighton
  • Score: -1

1:55am Sat 15 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

Reading fan in Brighton wrote:
NO CHANCE!!
Don't put yourself down. Reading still have an outside chance with Thunderbird's management clichés to guide the players on!
[quote][p][bold]Reading fan in Brighton[/bold] wrote: NO CHANCE!![/p][/quote]Don't put yourself down. Reading still have an outside chance with Thunderbird's management clichés to guide the players on! Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

2:05am Sat 15 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

ringtone wrote:
We can pat ourselves on the back and say we have a big fan base but the truth is the passion is missing, eg how many fans we take to away games, answer not many.

Its just not a football town, sorry.
Aha! Another Reading fan lost!
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: We can pat ourselves on the back and say we have a big fan base but the truth is the passion is missing, eg how many fans we take to away games, answer not many. Its just not a football town, sorry.[/p][/quote]Aha! Another Reading fan lost! Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

2:10am Sat 15 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

mickage wrote:
Do you lot realize you are 24 points behind first place and 1/3 of the way down the table..!.......put that into perspective when considering Brighton's realistic chances of promotion and subsequent success in the Premier league
Do you realize we are one result off play-offs and that your contribution was a waste of time?
[quote][p][bold]mickage[/bold] wrote: Do you lot realize you are 24 points behind first place and 1/3 of the way down the table..!.......put that into perspective when considering Brighton's realistic chances of promotion and subsequent success in the Premier league[/p][/quote]Do you realize we are one result off play-offs and that your contribution was a waste of time? Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

2:14am Sat 15 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

Reading fan in Brighton wrote:
Vince wrote:
mickage wrote:
Do you lot realize you are 24 points behind first place and 1/3 of the way down the table..!.......put that into perspective when considering Brighton's realistic chances of promotion and subsequent success in the Premier league
FACTS THAT PUTS YOUR COMMENT INTO PERSPECTIVE:-

Brighton 3 Leicester 1
Brighton 2 Burnley 0
Burnley 0 Brighton 0
QPR 0 Brighton 0
Brighton 2 QPR 0
Reading 0 Brighton 0
Brighton 1 Reading 1
Wigan 0 Brighton 1

Won 4 drawn 4 against probably the strongest teams in the Championship.

All deserved points for Albion.
The game where we dominated the most at home to Wigan - where their manager said how lucky they were to win 2-1 (one fluke rebound and the other straight from a corner).
Ask Rossler who he fears most in the play-offs - and odds-on he will say QPR and Brighton.

With Orlandi to soon be back, and with Lingard and Stephens beginning to settle in to our team formation, and with Leo Ulloa and Will Buckley starting to hit real form - I can see us finishing 6th.

Leicester 100 points
Burnley 86
Derby 82
QPR 80
Wigan 78
Brighton 75
Reading 74
Forest 73

Brighton v QPR Play-off final 2-1
Deserved points? You were totally outplayed on Saturday, Reading 27 shots, Brighton 6 (1 on target). If we hadn't scored for you, you would still be playing now trying to score!!! Get your blinkers off, you can only go on being outplayed by the opposition and sneaking 1 - 0 wins for so long.....
And if the ref didn't hand you the gift of a red card for one of our players you'd be doing the same. Also if you really want to bore us with arguments of deserved results, perhaps your comically jammy win two years ago is worth debate. You seem quite hung up about not beating us though....and 8 Man Yeovil of course.

:0D
[quote][p][bold]Reading fan in Brighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vince[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickage[/bold] wrote: Do you lot realize you are 24 points behind first place and 1/3 of the way down the table..!.......put that into perspective when considering Brighton's realistic chances of promotion and subsequent success in the Premier league[/p][/quote]FACTS THAT PUTS YOUR COMMENT INTO PERSPECTIVE:- Brighton 3 Leicester 1 Brighton 2 Burnley 0 Burnley 0 Brighton 0 QPR 0 Brighton 0 Brighton 2 QPR 0 Reading 0 Brighton 0 Brighton 1 Reading 1 Wigan 0 Brighton 1 Won 4 drawn 4 against probably the strongest teams in the Championship. All deserved points for Albion. The game where we dominated the most at home to Wigan - where their manager said how lucky they were to win 2-1 (one fluke rebound and the other straight from a corner). Ask Rossler who he fears most in the play-offs - and odds-on he will say QPR and Brighton. With Orlandi to soon be back, and with Lingard and Stephens beginning to settle in to our team formation, and with Leo Ulloa and Will Buckley starting to hit real form - I can see us finishing 6th. Leicester 100 points Burnley 86 Derby 82 QPR 80 Wigan 78 Brighton 75 Reading 74 Forest 73 Brighton v QPR Play-off final 2-1[/p][/quote]Deserved points? You were totally outplayed on Saturday, Reading 27 shots, Brighton 6 (1 on target). If we hadn't scored for you, you would still be playing now trying to score!!! Get your blinkers off, you can only go on being outplayed by the opposition and sneaking 1 - 0 wins for so long.....[/p][/quote]And if the ref didn't hand you the gift of a red card for one of our players you'd be doing the same. Also if you really want to bore us with arguments of deserved results, perhaps your comically jammy win two years ago is worth debate. You seem quite hung up about not beating us though....and 8 Man Yeovil of course. :0D Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

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