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Greer: Don't abandon our passing principles

The Argus: Gordon Greer in action against Ipswich Gordon Greer in action against Ipswich

ALBION captain Gordon Greer has urged his team-mates not to abandon their passing principles at the Amex – even when things are going badly.

The centre-half believes players were influenced by the crowd “just to kick the ball forward” during the 2-0 home defeat by Ipswich.

He says they adopted the wrong tactics to get back in the game after falling behind.

Tommy Smith nodded Ipswich in front from a corner after an hour and a Daryl Murphy header 20 minutes later sealed only the Seagulls' second defeat in 12 home outings.

Greer told the Argus: “I thought we were on top for most of the game but they scored from a corner and as soon as it went 1-0 we went back to front too much.

“I could feel the crowd were kind of wanting us just to kick the ball forward and a lot of the players did that. I just don’t think that was the right way to try to break them down.

“We are a passing team and we're a patient team with the ball. It’s easier to turn against the team when you are losing games but I don’t think we played that badly. We were the better team but they took their chances and we didn't take ours.”

Albion are still eighth, three points outside the play-offs with a game in hand, ahead of tomorrow night’s trip to Sheffield Wednesday and another home game against Middlesbrough.

Greer said: “We’ve been on a really good run. It was disappointing to lose but we’ve got a massive game on Tuesday and another massive game on Saturday, so they are coming thick and fast.”

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5:41am Mon 24 Mar 14

WestStander17 says...

Totally agree, Cap'n!

Just got to keep playing our game from start to finish. Playing long balls up to Leo doesn't bear any fruit as, particularly since his injury, he doesn't actually win many balls in the air against dominant centre backs. He needs quality service and that comes from being patient.

Us fans should be getting used to our style of play by now and get behind the team from the beginning. We have seen with our own eyes that this is the best way to keep control of the game and our destiny. Yes, we have lost the odd one, like Saturday, but even the best teams do that. We did create chances on Saturday too. Leo just wasn't quite as lethal with his head as he normally is.

Keep the faith!
Totally agree, Cap'n! Just got to keep playing our game from start to finish. Playing long balls up to Leo doesn't bear any fruit as, particularly since his injury, he doesn't actually win many balls in the air against dominant centre backs. He needs quality service and that comes from being patient. Us fans should be getting used to our style of play by now and get behind the team from the beginning. We have seen with our own eyes that this is the best way to keep control of the game and our destiny. Yes, we have lost the odd one, like Saturday, but even the best teams do that. We did create chances on Saturday too. Leo just wasn't quite as lethal with his head as he normally is. Keep the faith! WestStander17
  • Score: 5

6:54am Mon 24 Mar 14

seagullsays says...

I'm not sure the fans were asking for long ball tactics, just a little less tippy tappy football across the back four and more urgency. Possession stats count for nothing. We were 2-0 down and very little changed re our tactics.
I'm not sure the fans were asking for long ball tactics, just a little less tippy tappy football across the back four and more urgency. Possession stats count for nothing. We were 2-0 down and very little changed re our tactics. seagullsays
  • Score: 25

6:59am Mon 24 Mar 14

Grendel says...

I think fans want to see us creating chances and scoring goals, regardless of what the tactics are, that is after all how you win games. It seems to me that we are at times so fixated on passing that we would rather pass than take a shot, and that is frustrating to watch.
I think fans want to see us creating chances and scoring goals, regardless of what the tactics are, that is after all how you win games. It seems to me that we are at times so fixated on passing that we would rather pass than take a shot, and that is frustrating to watch. Grendel
  • Score: 28

7:01am Mon 24 Mar 14

bbb1969 says...

As we all know it was the finishing that did us again. The fabs did not want us to hoof the ball upfield but more passing forward with urgency. At 2-0 down we needed to get the ball foreatd quickly and unfortunately our captain was guilty of side - back - side - back as his normal game which is great when all the team are playing well.
We have to mix it up and if playing wingers then a long diagonal ball is the way to go; Andrews did this to his credit but thats all he did and it paid off a couple of times.
Greer did run a couple of times to the halfway but then passed sideways or back.
Sorry if I sound negative and was getting over the game until I read this post.
As we all know it was the finishing that did us again. The fabs did not want us to hoof the ball upfield but more passing forward with urgency. At 2-0 down we needed to get the ball foreatd quickly and unfortunately our captain was guilty of side - back - side - back as his normal game which is great when all the team are playing well. We have to mix it up and if playing wingers then a long diagonal ball is the way to go; Andrews did this to his credit but thats all he did and it paid off a couple of times. Greer did run a couple of times to the halfway but then passed sideways or back. Sorry if I sound negative and was getting over the game until I read this post. bbb1969
  • Score: 20

7:23am Mon 24 Mar 14

pwlr1966 says...

So it's the fans fault now? Not by any chance a lack lustre performance from the eleven on the pitch along with dire defending in the box?
So it's the fans fault now? Not by any chance a lack lustre performance from the eleven on the pitch along with dire defending in the box? pwlr1966
  • Score: -5

7:54am Mon 24 Mar 14

Steveg1958 says...

Says it all, Mr Greer is the best at playing possession football, generally backwards and sideways, ! don't blame the fans Gordon, all we wanted was a bit more urgency in the last third of the pitch, hoofing the ball up from the back was dong no good and not what the fans wanted, a fast passing game instead of getting to the last third, stopping and going backwards to start again too many times, more urgency in midfield and a more attacking line up wul have helped, but I ain't holding my breath on that any time soon, Oscar plays one way an one way only, if we are serious about getting in the play offs we go for it, tippy tappy will not get us there.
Says it all, Mr Greer is the best at playing possession football, generally backwards and sideways, ! don't blame the fans Gordon, all we wanted was a bit more urgency in the last third of the pitch, hoofing the ball up from the back was dong no good and not what the fans wanted, a fast passing game instead of getting to the last third, stopping and going backwards to start again too many times, more urgency in midfield and a more attacking line up wul have helped, but I ain't holding my breath on that any time soon, Oscar plays one way an one way only, if we are serious about getting in the play offs we go for it, tippy tappy will not get us there. Steveg1958
  • Score: 12

8:09am Mon 24 Mar 14

JollyRoger says...

Sorry Gordon but I disagree. As a fan I don't want to see us just getting the ball forward but I do want to see us passing the ball forward and moving with pace and intent. Whether it's a lack of options when we have the ball or not there are too many times when it seems the backward pass is the easiest option. I sometimes wonder whether some of our players have actually got a forward pass in their repertoire???

I'm sorry, but keeping the ball and passing it around in our third of the pitch doesn't threaten the opposition and it doesn't win games. Going forward at walking pace doesn't help either - how are you supposed to put teams under pressure after winning possession if we stroll forward and give the opposition time to get ten players behind the ball.

It is possible to keep possession, attack with pace and put teams under pressure - just watch how many of the big boys in the Premiership and Championship do it. That's what we need to aspire to!
Sorry Gordon but I disagree. As a fan I don't want to see us just getting the ball forward but I do want to see us passing the ball forward and moving with pace and intent. Whether it's a lack of options when we have the ball or not there are too many times when it seems the backward pass is the easiest option. I sometimes wonder whether some of our players have actually got a forward pass in their repertoire??? I'm sorry, but keeping the ball and passing it around in our third of the pitch doesn't threaten the opposition and it doesn't win games. Going forward at walking pace doesn't help either - how are you supposed to put teams under pressure after winning possession if we stroll forward and give the opposition time to get ten players behind the ball. It is possible to keep possession, attack with pace and put teams under pressure - just watch how many of the big boys in the Premiership and Championship do it. That's what we need to aspire to! JollyRoger
  • Score: 18

8:49am Mon 24 Mar 14

Max Ripple says...

The passing game is wonderfully attractive and when we are on song it is beautiful to watch but there is too much front to back and sideways movement even when there is space up front to make rapid progress. By the time we get the ball into or around the penalty box the other side always have at least six players in the box to cover. We are constantly trying to shoot or cross through masses of legs and things invariably get blocked out. We need to get into shooting positions quicker. When Bux or Kaz are ready to make a cross there is often no-one ready in the box to meet it and they have to wait for strikers to catch up -by which time the oppositions defence has sorted itself out.
Slow passing movement gives the opposition time to think and defend.
The passing game is wonderfully attractive and when we are on song it is beautiful to watch but there is too much front to back and sideways movement even when there is space up front to make rapid progress. By the time we get the ball into or around the penalty box the other side always have at least six players in the box to cover. We are constantly trying to shoot or cross through masses of legs and things invariably get blocked out. We need to get into shooting positions quicker. When Bux or Kaz are ready to make a cross there is often no-one ready in the box to meet it and they have to wait for strikers to catch up -by which time the oppositions defence has sorted itself out. Slow passing movement gives the opposition time to think and defend. Max Ripple
  • Score: 12

9:12am Mon 24 Mar 14

blue-eyed-boy says...

The Fans love the passing game, & the applause they give when several passes are strung together with zip & purpose prove that, the problem is the return of goals from chances created, I can't fault Leo, but our problem all season has been the lack of a of a consistent goal scoring midfield player, Crofts did his best to chip in, but the goals he scored were a bonus, Orlandi might have been that player but he has been injured or recovering from injury for most of the season, the loan window was a bit of a wasted opportunity Lingard is too lightweight, I feel JFC is playing as well as he can but unfortunately we need better, you would have though the money from Bridcut would have been spent on a game changing Midfield player rather than a squad player (Stevens).
The Fans love the passing game, & the applause they give when several passes are strung together with zip & purpose prove that, the problem is the return of goals from chances created, I can't fault Leo, but our problem all season has been the lack of a of a consistent goal scoring midfield player, Crofts did his best to chip in, but the goals he scored were a bonus, Orlandi might have been that player but he has been injured or recovering from injury for most of the season, the loan window was a bit of a wasted opportunity Lingard is too lightweight, I feel JFC is playing as well as he can but unfortunately we need better, you would have though the money from Bridcut would have been spent on a game changing Midfield player rather than a squad player (Stevens). blue-eyed-boy
  • Score: 11

9:16am Mon 24 Mar 14

elljam says...

I'm sure that no fan wants us to become a long ball team. However the ability to mix things up is something that all good teams need to have in their locker as the opposition will learn how to deal with a side that only has one way of playing.
For all of our possession football we don't create enough chances & this is because we don't have enough technically gifted players to continually play this way. It's one thing passing from the back when under little pressure but as as you approach the opponent's final third then the spaces become tighter & you need extremely talented players to play in these areas when teams often have 8/9 men behind the ball. To expect Championship level players to do this regularly is ridiculous.
At this level percentages have to be played & on Saturday the best chance we created came from a long ball over the top for Lingaard.
The only side who never go long are Barcelona & unless we are about to sign Messi, Iniesta,Xavi etc. then I think we will fall short.
Oscar has to wise up quickly & realise the "Barcelona way" is beyond a lot of our players.
I'm sure that no fan wants us to become a long ball team. However the ability to mix things up is something that all good teams need to have in their locker as the opposition will learn how to deal with a side that only has one way of playing. For all of our possession football we don't create enough chances & this is because we don't have enough technically gifted players to continually play this way. It's one thing passing from the back when under little pressure but as as you approach the opponent's final third then the spaces become tighter & you need extremely talented players to play in these areas when teams often have 8/9 men behind the ball. To expect Championship level players to do this regularly is ridiculous. At this level percentages have to be played & on Saturday the best chance we created came from a long ball over the top for Lingaard. The only side who never go long are Barcelona & unless we are about to sign Messi, Iniesta,Xavi etc. then I think we will fall short. Oscar has to wise up quickly & realise the "Barcelona way" is beyond a lot of our players. elljam
  • Score: 9

9:33am Mon 24 Mar 14

Mr Know It All says...

Well, with 5 min to go, someone behind shouts "get it forward Greer" and he then shouts back "Shut up for f*****g prat" - this was in east stand lower, we all heard it, everyone laughed and said "that told him"....
Well, with 5 min to go, someone behind shouts "get it forward Greer" and he then shouts back "Shut up for f*****g prat" - this was in east stand lower, we all heard it, everyone laughed and said "that told him".... Mr Know It All
  • Score: 3

10:03am Mon 24 Mar 14

fratsomrover says...

I think GG has totally misread this issue. I dont believe any fans want us to revert back to a " lump it forward" approach. We just want to see us play the ball forward with more urgency and get players forward quicker than we do at present.
I sat through El Classico last night marveling at the pace of the game, the accuracy of the passing and the incredible technical ability of some of those players. But it is also the work rate they put in that counts. The speed they transfer from defence into attack is incredible, they break with such pace, forwards are never isolated as support players are busting a gut to get up alongside them. Our approach GG is the opposite. It is slow and laborious. Taking 8 or 9 passes to get the ball over the half way line just enables the opposition to get everyone back behind the ball.
We dont need to abandon our passing game, we just need to do it quicker and with more purpose. We need to look forward first and foremost and to play penetrating balls that commit their defenders and more importantly, get our support midfielders racing up in support of Ulloa and Co. and getting into positions where they can score. I dont think JFC, Andrews or Ince ever touched the ball in Ipswich's penalty area on Sat. They were always too deep to support our attack and one of the reasons why so many of our passes are played backwards and square. This is the main reason we score so few goals and will be the reason we may not make the play-offs.
I think GG has totally misread this issue. I dont believe any fans want us to revert back to a " lump it forward" approach. We just want to see us play the ball forward with more urgency and get players forward quicker than we do at present. I sat through El Classico last night marveling at the pace of the game, the accuracy of the passing and the incredible technical ability of some of those players. But it is also the work rate they put in that counts. The speed they transfer from defence into attack is incredible, they break with such pace, forwards are never isolated as support players are busting a gut to get up alongside them. Our approach GG is the opposite. It is slow and laborious. Taking 8 or 9 passes to get the ball over the half way line just enables the opposition to get everyone back behind the ball. We dont need to abandon our passing game, we just need to do it quicker and with more purpose. We need to look forward first and foremost and to play penetrating balls that commit their defenders and more importantly, get our support midfielders racing up in support of Ulloa and Co. and getting into positions where they can score. I dont think JFC, Andrews or Ince ever touched the ball in Ipswich's penalty area on Sat. They were always too deep to support our attack and one of the reasons why so many of our passes are played backwards and square. This is the main reason we score so few goals and will be the reason we may not make the play-offs. fratsomrover
  • Score: 10

10:04am Mon 24 Mar 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

I agree just booting it forward is not the answer, but, neither is continuing to play our passing game at the same pace when we are 2-0 down. The passing style we use is fine but teams like Ipswich set up to counteract it and by the time we get to the last third we have an organised defence in front if us.
Having said that we should have scored at least a couple of goals on Saturday but we were lack lustre in front of goal.
We need to speed it up a bit and get the ball forward faster and get that element of surprise. I have a feeling we will collect more points away from home in the run in because at home we are too predictable. UTA
I agree just booting it forward is not the answer, but, neither is continuing to play our passing game at the same pace when we are 2-0 down. The passing style we use is fine but teams like Ipswich set up to counteract it and by the time we get to the last third we have an organised defence in front if us. Having said that we should have scored at least a couple of goals on Saturday but we were lack lustre in front of goal. We need to speed it up a bit and get the ball forward faster and get that element of surprise. I have a feeling we will collect more points away from home in the run in because at home we are too predictable. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 11

10:15am Mon 24 Mar 14

bmouthseagull says...

That wasn't what we wanted Gordon, we just wanted more urgency in the passing. We don't seem to have a second gear at the moment, and the passing is just too slow that we can't unlock defences. Sure we will put in a performance tomorrow and get back on track though. Think the midfield needs a refresh replacing Andrews with Stephens.
That wasn't what we wanted Gordon, we just wanted more urgency in the passing. We don't seem to have a second gear at the moment, and the passing is just too slow that we can't unlock defences. Sure we will put in a performance tomorrow and get back on track though. Think the midfield needs a refresh replacing Andrews with Stephens. bmouthseagull
  • Score: 11

10:55am Mon 24 Mar 14

blueskiesfromnowon says...

Such a lot of thoughtful, considered and constructive posts today, makes a really refreshing change. Lets hope there's someone "out there" paying attention,
Such a lot of thoughtful, considered and constructive posts today, makes a really refreshing change. Lets hope there's someone "out there" paying attention, blueskiesfromnowon
  • Score: 3

11:24am Mon 24 Mar 14

wiseman of hove says...

There's passing and passing. I was lucky enough to see Johnny Haynes a few times who knew had to split defences with forward passes.
I think the captain should be a bit more sympathetic to the crowd's reaction who generally have been served up pretty poor fare at home this season. Blaming the fans? Not heard that one before.
There's passing and passing. I was lucky enough to see Johnny Haynes a few times who knew had to split defences with forward passes. I think the captain should be a bit more sympathetic to the crowd's reaction who generally have been served up pretty poor fare at home this season. Blaming the fans? Not heard that one before. wiseman of hove
  • Score: 7

4:53pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Iangira says...

It`s ok playing The Garcia way if you are Barcelona but we are not. We are too lightweight in some positions and we are becoming predictable and there is too much rotation of the squad. We need to be far stronger in midfield and more variation of play in midfield. We are woefully short up front. I won`t name individuals but some of the current squad are simply not that good. The fans know who they are because Brighton fans are pretty intelligent football wise. Personally I`m not happy with the way it`s going. We need a big summer shake up which I hope there will be. Remember the season ticket holders TB and Co. You`ve had our money so don`t forget us.
It`s ok playing The Garcia way if you are Barcelona but we are not. We are too lightweight in some positions and we are becoming predictable and there is too much rotation of the squad. We need to be far stronger in midfield and more variation of play in midfield. We are woefully short up front. I won`t name individuals but some of the current squad are simply not that good. The fans know who they are because Brighton fans are pretty intelligent football wise. Personally I`m not happy with the way it`s going. We need a big summer shake up which I hope there will be. Remember the season ticket holders TB and Co. You`ve had our money so don`t forget us. Iangira
  • Score: 4

6:59pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

WestStander17 wrote:
Totally agree, Cap'n! Just got to keep playing our game from start to finish. Playing long balls up to Leo doesn't bear any fruit as, particularly since his injury, he doesn't actually win many balls in the air against dominant centre backs. He needs quality service and that comes from being patient. Us fans should be getting used to our style of play by now and get behind the team from the beginning. We have seen with our own eyes that this is the best way to keep control of the game and our destiny. Yes, we have lost the odd one, like Saturday, but even the best teams do that. We did create chances on Saturday too. Leo just wasn't quite as lethal with his head as he normally is. Keep the faith!
And I also completely agree. We must stay true to our principles both to maintain our style and identity but also for the best chance of winning games. Hoof and hope is a dead format from the past. Even Hoofmeisters Stoke have adopted a passing game and IMHO are a better side for it. We will prevail when the time is right and that will be by passing our way to promotion and it probably (hopefully) will be with Oscar in charge of the good ship Albion.
[quote][p][bold]WestStander17[/bold] wrote: Totally agree, Cap'n! Just got to keep playing our game from start to finish. Playing long balls up to Leo doesn't bear any fruit as, particularly since his injury, he doesn't actually win many balls in the air against dominant centre backs. He needs quality service and that comes from being patient. Us fans should be getting used to our style of play by now and get behind the team from the beginning. We have seen with our own eyes that this is the best way to keep control of the game and our destiny. Yes, we have lost the odd one, like Saturday, but even the best teams do that. We did create chances on Saturday too. Leo just wasn't quite as lethal with his head as he normally is. Keep the faith![/p][/quote]And I also completely agree. We must stay true to our principles both to maintain our style and identity but also for the best chance of winning games. Hoof and hope is a dead format from the past. Even Hoofmeisters Stoke have adopted a passing game and IMHO are a better side for it. We will prevail when the time is right and that will be by passing our way to promotion and it probably (hopefully) will be with Oscar in charge of the good ship Albion. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 0

7:13pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

Max Ripple wrote:
The passing game is wonderfully attractive and when we are on song it is beautiful to watch but there is too much front to back and sideways movement even when there is space up front to make rapid progress. By the time we get the ball into or around the penalty box the other side always have at least six players in the box to cover. We are constantly trying to shoot or cross through masses of legs and things invariably get blocked out. We need to get into shooting positions quicker. When Bux or Kaz are ready to make a cross there is often no-one ready in the box to meet it and they have to wait for strikers to catch up -by which time the oppositions defence has sorted itself out. Slow passing movement gives the opposition time to think and defend.
While I don't entirely agree with a number of the above posts, I do concur with the balance of your contribution in particular. I do love our passing game but there are definitely moments when we can be more proactive, incisive and creative than we tend to be. This relates to all your points noted and also vitally to movement in attackbg positions and close quarters scenarios in general.

We do a lot right (our proximity to 6th confirms that) but not enough is done well enough YET! Putting teams under more sustained pressure a la Leicester (and final stages vs Wigan) and keeping them on the back foot would yield the required extra goals / points.
[quote][p][bold]Max Ripple[/bold] wrote: The passing game is wonderfully attractive and when we are on song it is beautiful to watch but there is too much front to back and sideways movement even when there is space up front to make rapid progress. By the time we get the ball into or around the penalty box the other side always have at least six players in the box to cover. We are constantly trying to shoot or cross through masses of legs and things invariably get blocked out. We need to get into shooting positions quicker. When Bux or Kaz are ready to make a cross there is often no-one ready in the box to meet it and they have to wait for strikers to catch up -by which time the oppositions defence has sorted itself out. Slow passing movement gives the opposition time to think and defend.[/p][/quote]While I don't entirely agree with a number of the above posts, I do concur with the balance of your contribution in particular. I do love our passing game but there are definitely moments when we can be more proactive, incisive and creative than we tend to be. This relates to all your points noted and also vitally to movement in attackbg positions and close quarters scenarios in general. We do a lot right (our proximity to 6th confirms that) but not enough is done well enough YET! Putting teams under more sustained pressure a la Leicester (and final stages vs Wigan) and keeping them on the back foot would yield the required extra goals / points. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

10:55pm Mon 24 Mar 14

gordongull says...

If you have clearly defined principles or a 'philosophy' of how the game should be played, there is no need to be a master tactician. You train to operate a particular system, and rely on that system to be successful whatever the opposition, and whatever players you have available.
That is what has taken us to eighth place in the Championship, which is far more preferable than a relegation battle. But what takes place on a matchday is not Oscar's philosophy being put into practice. It is something entirely different. Here is a quote from Oscar at the beginning of the season:
"My obsession is to attack, to keep the ball and to have the ball as many times as possible.
"If we have the ball, we will have many chances to score and win the game. That's my philosophy," the Spaniard told the club website.
"If you play good you will have more chances to win than if you play bad ."
If you are a regular visitor to the Amex, you will be more than familiar with us keeping possession, but less familiar with the rest of the quote. 60% possession in your own half is not good football, and it is not going to score you the goals needed to win games.
We are not going see Oscar's philosophy actually put into practice, at least not this season. For it to work next season, we are going to need some phenomenal signings in the summer.
Otherwise be prepared for a lot more of the same.
If you have clearly defined principles or a 'philosophy' of how the game should be played, there is no need to be a master tactician. You train to operate a particular system, and rely on that system to be successful whatever the opposition, and whatever players you have available. That is what has taken us to eighth place in the Championship, which is far more preferable than a relegation battle. But what takes place on a matchday is not Oscar's philosophy being put into practice. It is something entirely different. Here is a quote from Oscar at the beginning of the season: "My obsession is to attack, to keep the ball and to have the ball as many times as possible. "If we have the ball, we will have many chances to score and win the game. That's my philosophy," the Spaniard told the club website. "If you play good [football] you will have more chances to win than if you play bad [football]." If you are a regular visitor to the Amex, you will be more than familiar with us keeping possession, but less familiar with the rest of the quote. 60% possession in your own half is not good football, and it is not going to score you the goals needed to win games. We are not going see Oscar's philosophy actually put into practice, at least not this season. For it to work next season, we are going to need some phenomenal signings in the summer. Otherwise be prepared for a lot more of the same. gordongull
  • Score: 1

11:01pm Mon 24 Mar 14

gordongull says...

Some of the quote in brackets didn't copy.
Should read: ''If you play good (football) you will have more chances to win than if you play bad (football)''.
Some of the quote in brackets didn't copy. Should read: ''If you play good (football) you will have more chances to win than if you play bad (football)''. gordongull
  • Score: 0

6:09am Tue 25 Mar 14

brighton bluenose says...

You can play a 'passing game' as much as you want but those passes for the large part should be with intent and purpose and most importantly with accuracy - which, unfortunately, is something we often fail to achieve!!
You can play a 'passing game' as much as you want but those passes for the large part should be with intent and purpose and most importantly with accuracy - which, unfortunately, is something we often fail to achieve!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 2

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