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Bruno walking a disciplinary tightrope

The Argus: Bruno is one booking away from a two-game ban Bruno is one booking away from a two-game ban

Bruno is on the brink for Albion.

The Spanish right-back, left, is one more booking away from a ban.

Bruno has accumulated nine cautions this season.

An automatic two-match suspension for reaching ten looks inevitable for the former Valencia man before the cut-off next month.

The Seagulls have nine games left to reach the play-offs and have compatriot Inigo Calderon as a ready-made deputy in Bruno’s role.

Calderon was ruled out of the squad for Tuesday’s 1-0 defeat at Sheffield Wednesday by a bug which also accounted for Leo Ulloa and Dale Stephens and which has affected other members of staff.

Bruno clashed with keeper Tomasz Kuszczak after Leon Best’s late winner for Sheffield.

Head coach Oscar Garcia does not expect any bad feeling between the pair to spill over into Saturday’s home game against Middlesbrough.

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6:11am Thu 27 Mar 14

MHubbs says...

Given his defensive ineptitude I see that as no great loss. Bring back Inigo
Given his defensive ineptitude I see that as no great loss. Bring back Inigo MHubbs
  • Score: 6

6:45am Thu 27 Mar 14

Alfie T says...

He makes the occasional gaff but all defenders do, TK had a rant at him but he's not perfect either, could have done better with the first Ipswich goal. I love watching Bruno play, classy touches and technique, a real entertainer.
His ban will inevitably come, but Calde won't disappoint, very lucky to have two quality right backs.
He makes the occasional gaff but all defenders do, TK had a rant at him but he's not perfect either, could have done better with the first Ipswich goal. I love watching Bruno play, classy touches and technique, a real entertainer. His ban will inevitably come, but Calde won't disappoint, very lucky to have two quality right backs. Alfie T
  • Score: 28

6:56am Thu 27 Mar 14

DADDYG says...

The ever dependable and loyal and all round decent clubman Calderon is so unlucky to be on the bench with this clown being chosen ahead of him. Calde can defend and pops up with a few goals as well.
The ever dependable and loyal and all round decent clubman Calderon is so unlucky to be on the bench with this clown being chosen ahead of him. Calde can defend and pops up with a few goals as well. DADDYG
  • Score: 6

7:30am Thu 27 Mar 14

fansunited says...

Give me Calde & Chicksen any day. Bruno gives away to many set pieces.....
Give me Calde & Chicksen any day. Bruno gives away to many set pieces..... fansunited
  • Score: -8

8:13am Thu 27 Mar 14

JeffLomer says...

Be ready calde your club needs you after the Borough game!!
Be ready calde your club needs you after the Borough game!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 6

9:25am Thu 27 Mar 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Bruno is an entertainer but makes the odd gaff whilst Inigo is more solid all round. I love them both. UTA
Bruno is an entertainer but makes the odd gaff whilst Inigo is more solid all round. I love them both. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 8

9:55am Thu 27 Mar 14

Alfie T says...

I fancy a big win Saturday, 3/4 nil, just a feeling,don't shoot the mesanger :-)
I fancy a big win Saturday, 3/4 nil, just a feeling,don't shoot the mesanger :-) Alfie T
  • Score: 3

10:31am Thu 27 Mar 14

7dialsSeagul says...

This sniping and criticism of Bruno is pure pony!

Clearly and extremely talented footballer who leads the majority of counter-attacks from the back. Possibly the most talented footballer currently at the club and his percentage play beats people a lot although occasionally leads to problems as a downside of taking risks. Much as I love Calde, Bruno is the better player and Calde also gets beaten sometimes.

We are a better team with Bruno playing, end of.
This sniping and criticism of Bruno is pure pony! Clearly and extremely talented footballer who leads the majority of counter-attacks from the back. Possibly the most talented footballer currently at the club and his percentage play beats people a lot although occasionally leads to problems as a downside of taking risks. Much as I love Calde, Bruno is the better player and Calde also gets beaten sometimes. We are a better team with Bruno playing, end of. 7dialsSeagul
  • Score: 4

1:10pm Thu 27 Mar 14

tinker111 says...

Caldi Get fit ASAP you should be in the R/B slot Bruno cant defend .
Caldi Get fit ASAP you should be in the R/B slot Bruno cant defend . tinker111
  • Score: -3

1:18pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

Alfie T wrote:
I fancy a big win Saturday, 3/4 nil, just a feeling,don't shoot the mesanger :-)
Whatever you are on, Alfie, I'd certainly like some...
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: I fancy a big win Saturday, 3/4 nil, just a feeling,don't shoot the mesanger :-)[/p][/quote]Whatever you are on, Alfie, I'd certainly like some... Willie, Willie Irvine
  • Score: 5

1:53pm Thu 27 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

The possible suspension of Bruno and his place going to Calde, seems to me to highlight our squads short comings. Bruno drops out and Calde comes in, from a defensive stance we lose nothing and to me, there is only one other position on the park where we can take a guy out and not lose anything by his replacement, and that is Dunk for Greer.
People will compare the attributes of Bruno V Calde, Dunk V Greer so some might not agree with me but, generally speaking these are the only positions where we have quality cover. TK, Buckley, Ince, Ulloa, Upson, Crofts and Ward are all stand out players that do not have quality cover, and there in lies the problem.

I think our commendable efforts to comply with the FFP rules has meant that, when key players have been injured, and the type of injury has required them to be out for several weeks or months, our compliance efforts have stopped us from buying, a few other clubs acted differently in the same circumstances.
We do have some decent players that I have not mentioned, Orlandi being one, and I guess JFC is currently occupying his place in the team, but JFC is not at the level of Orlandi, not yet. Solly is a good option but again, he is not at the level of Buckley. Stephens looks like a good buy and Andrews has plenty of experience, but for me, neither one has given us what we lost when Crofts was ruled out for the season.

When this season is done, and assuming that promotion does not happen, I would hope that Oscar and others sit down and evaluate every single player so that come next season, if a key player is out for a month or so, we have the Bruno V Calde, or the Dunk V Greer situation, lose one and the other comes in losing nothing. We need twenty two players competing for places, with seven or eight others that can give us tacical change options. To get to this situation we will have to sell/release some players and buy, money will have to be made available, maybe the Nike deal will help that happen.

If we are to challenge nex year we can't have the situation where if Ulloa is out, we have a problem, if Ince is out we have the same problem, or any of our stand out players creating a major problem if injured. On paper it might look as though we have competition for places but the reality is, we don't.
The possible suspension of Bruno and his place going to Calde, seems to me to highlight our squads short comings. Bruno drops out and Calde comes in, from a defensive stance we lose nothing and to me, there is only one other position on the park where we can take a guy out and not lose anything by his replacement, and that is Dunk for Greer. People will compare the attributes of Bruno V Calde, Dunk V Greer so some might not agree with me but, generally speaking these are the only positions where we have quality cover. TK, Buckley, Ince, Ulloa, Upson, Crofts and Ward are all stand out players that do not have quality cover, and there in lies the problem. I think our commendable efforts to comply with the FFP rules has meant that, when key players have been injured, and the type of injury has required them to be out for several weeks or months, our compliance efforts have stopped us from buying, a few other clubs acted differently in the same circumstances. We do have some decent players that I have not mentioned, Orlandi being one, and I guess JFC is currently occupying his place in the team, but JFC is not at the level of Orlandi, not yet. Solly is a good option but again, he is not at the level of Buckley. Stephens looks like a good buy and Andrews has plenty of experience, but for me, neither one has given us what we lost when Crofts was ruled out for the season. When this season is done, and assuming that promotion does not happen, I would hope that Oscar and others sit down and evaluate every single player so that come next season, if a key player is out for a month or so, we have the Bruno V Calde, or the Dunk V Greer situation, lose one and the other comes in losing nothing. We need twenty two players competing for places, with seven or eight others that can give us tacical change options. To get to this situation we will have to sell/release some players and buy, money will have to be made available, maybe the Nike deal will help that happen. If we are to challenge nex year we can't have the situation where if Ulloa is out, we have a problem, if Ince is out we have the same problem, or any of our stand out players creating a major problem if injured. On paper it might look as though we have competition for places but the reality is, we don't. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

2:24pm Thu 27 Mar 14

4everaseagull says...

7dialsSeagul wrote:
This sniping and criticism of Bruno is pure pony!

Clearly and extremely talented footballer who leads the majority of counter-attacks from the back. Possibly the most talented footballer currently at the club and his percentage play beats people a lot although occasionally leads to problems as a downside of taking risks. Much as I love Calde, Bruno is the better player and Calde also gets beaten sometimes.

We are a better team with Bruno playing, end of.
I don't feel the sniping and criticism of Bruno is pure pony. He may be talented when going forward but as I posted a couple of weeks ago in my opinion he is our worst defender. 9 yellow cards compared to 2 for Ward. I have compared the two regular fullbacks as they are likely to be the ones facing up to a tricky wide player. What does that tell you, Ward much more disciplined and a proper defender unlike Bruno who has been an accident waiting to happen and lost us a point on Tuesday. How many times does he allow crosses into our box with his lazy marking, backing off all the time? Calde is by far the better right back of the two. Calde 2 goals this season, Bruno 0. Calde 3 assists this season, Bruno 2. Yes Bruno at times does some terrific things going forward but his job is to defend first and for me he is poor in that area. He will get his 10th booking I am sure and then our ultimate club man will get a chance once more even if it is for just 2 games.
[quote][p][bold]7dialsSeagul[/bold] wrote: This sniping and criticism of Bruno is pure pony! Clearly and extremely talented footballer who leads the majority of counter-attacks from the back. Possibly the most talented footballer currently at the club and his percentage play beats people a lot although occasionally leads to problems as a downside of taking risks. Much as I love Calde, Bruno is the better player and Calde also gets beaten sometimes. We are a better team with Bruno playing, end of.[/p][/quote]I don't feel the sniping and criticism of Bruno is pure pony. He may be talented when going forward but as I posted a couple of weeks ago in my opinion he is our worst defender. 9 yellow cards compared to 2 for Ward. I have compared the two regular fullbacks as they are likely to be the ones facing up to a tricky wide player. What does that tell you, Ward much more disciplined and a proper defender unlike Bruno who has been an accident waiting to happen and lost us a point on Tuesday. How many times does he allow crosses into our box with his lazy marking, backing off all the time? Calde is by far the better right back of the two. Calde 2 goals this season, Bruno 0. Calde 3 assists this season, Bruno 2. Yes Bruno at times does some terrific things going forward but his job is to defend first and for me he is poor in that area. He will get his 10th booking I am sure and then our ultimate club man will get a chance once more even if it is for just 2 games. 4everaseagull
  • Score: 6

2:52pm Thu 27 Mar 14

East of CrawleyDown says...

We seem to rely too heavily certain players and when something goes wrong they are blamed for the consequences. Perhaps the squad is under too much pressure and certain individuals are carrying the weight of expectation? Bruno is not always solid but combined with more solid players around him a good balance can be found. Unfortunately our squad does nor stretch to that all the time, so maybe the expectation of the squad needs to be lowered a bit. Operating within FFP rules we cannot simply go out and buy enough players to put out 2 teams of high quality players.
We seem to rely too heavily certain players and when something goes wrong they are blamed for the consequences. Perhaps the squad is under too much pressure and certain individuals are carrying the weight of expectation? Bruno is not always solid but combined with more solid players around him a good balance can be found. Unfortunately our squad does nor stretch to that all the time, so maybe the expectation of the squad needs to be lowered a bit. Operating within FFP rules we cannot simply go out and buy enough players to put out 2 teams of high quality players. East of CrawleyDown
  • Score: 4

3:32pm Thu 27 Mar 14

pte says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
The possible suspension of Bruno and his place going to Calde, seems to me to highlight our squads short comings. Bruno drops out and Calde comes in, from a defensive stance we lose nothing and to me, there is only one other position on the park where we can take a guy out and not lose anything by his replacement, and that is Dunk for Greer.
People will compare the attributes of Bruno V Calde, Dunk V Greer so some might not agree with me but, generally speaking these are the only positions where we have quality cover. TK, Buckley, Ince, Ulloa, Upson, Crofts and Ward are all stand out players that do not have quality cover, and there in lies the problem.

I think our commendable efforts to comply with the FFP rules has meant that, when key players have been injured, and the type of injury has required them to be out for several weeks or months, our compliance efforts have stopped us from buying, a few other clubs acted differently in the same circumstances.
We do have some decent players that I have not mentioned, Orlandi being one, and I guess JFC is currently occupying his place in the team, but JFC is not at the level of Orlandi, not yet. Solly is a good option but again, he is not at the level of Buckley. Stephens looks like a good buy and Andrews has plenty of experience, but for me, neither one has given us what we lost when Crofts was ruled out for the season.

When this season is done, and assuming that promotion does not happen, I would hope that Oscar and others sit down and evaluate every single player so that come next season, if a key player is out for a month or so, we have the Bruno V Calde, or the Dunk V Greer situation, lose one and the other comes in losing nothing. We need twenty two players competing for places, with seven or eight others that can give us tacical change options. To get to this situation we will have to sell/release some players and buy, money will have to be made available, maybe the Nike deal will help that happen.

If we are to challenge nex year we can't have the situation where if Ulloa is out, we have a problem, if Ince is out we have the same problem, or any of our stand out players creating a major problem if injured. On paper it might look as though we have competition for places but the reality is, we don't.
Sorry, can you provide a summary at the end for those that don't have time to read your PHd thesis
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: The possible suspension of Bruno and his place going to Calde, seems to me to highlight our squads short comings. Bruno drops out and Calde comes in, from a defensive stance we lose nothing and to me, there is only one other position on the park where we can take a guy out and not lose anything by his replacement, and that is Dunk for Greer. People will compare the attributes of Bruno V Calde, Dunk V Greer so some might not agree with me but, generally speaking these are the only positions where we have quality cover. TK, Buckley, Ince, Ulloa, Upson, Crofts and Ward are all stand out players that do not have quality cover, and there in lies the problem. I think our commendable efforts to comply with the FFP rules has meant that, when key players have been injured, and the type of injury has required them to be out for several weeks or months, our compliance efforts have stopped us from buying, a few other clubs acted differently in the same circumstances. We do have some decent players that I have not mentioned, Orlandi being one, and I guess JFC is currently occupying his place in the team, but JFC is not at the level of Orlandi, not yet. Solly is a good option but again, he is not at the level of Buckley. Stephens looks like a good buy and Andrews has plenty of experience, but for me, neither one has given us what we lost when Crofts was ruled out for the season. When this season is done, and assuming that promotion does not happen, I would hope that Oscar and others sit down and evaluate every single player so that come next season, if a key player is out for a month or so, we have the Bruno V Calde, or the Dunk V Greer situation, lose one and the other comes in losing nothing. We need twenty two players competing for places, with seven or eight others that can give us tacical change options. To get to this situation we will have to sell/release some players and buy, money will have to be made available, maybe the Nike deal will help that happen. If we are to challenge nex year we can't have the situation where if Ulloa is out, we have a problem, if Ince is out we have the same problem, or any of our stand out players creating a major problem if injured. On paper it might look as though we have competition for places but the reality is, we don't.[/p][/quote]Sorry, can you provide a summary at the end for those that don't have time to read your PHd thesis pte
  • Score: -4

3:36pm Thu 27 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

East of CrawleyDown wrote:
We seem to rely too heavily certain players and when something goes wrong they are blamed for the consequences. Perhaps the squad is under too much pressure and certain individuals are carrying the weight of expectation? Bruno is not always solid but combined with more solid players around him a good balance can be found. Unfortunately our squad does nor stretch to that all the time, so maybe the expectation of the squad needs to be lowered a bit. Operating within FFP rules we cannot simply go out and buy enough players to put out 2 teams of high quality players.
I agree with the general point you are making, and the FFP constraints might well mean that we can't create the type of squad I mentioned in my earlier posting, but we can make a start.
We can continue to develope the likes of Solly whilst trying to hold on to Buckley for another couple of seasons. If we had a, 'can't refuse offer for Buckley,' then we should buy a replacement to work along side Solly, thus, in time, creating competition for places.
I don't think any club can build a successful squad in just one season, not unless you spend like crazy, and the FFP prevents that, or is supposed to. It could take a couple of years to develope a truly challenging squad and then we would be looking to challenge the following year for promotion, if that's the way it goes, the fans will have to be content with seeing how the squad developes rather than looking for promotion every single year, but that doesn't mean that a whole lot of fun will be had whilst the squad developes. The excitement of what is to come could be enough for the fans if they can see progress on the park, if they see younger faster and more skillfull players one by one the starting to fill the starting spots, and simillar players progressing out of the new acadamy creating competition. Two years, three or maybe even four years may elapse before we have a truly exciting squad, but I don't think that will matter so long as the fans are entertained and we retain a top 8 or or place.
[quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: We seem to rely too heavily certain players and when something goes wrong they are blamed for the consequences. Perhaps the squad is under too much pressure and certain individuals are carrying the weight of expectation? Bruno is not always solid but combined with more solid players around him a good balance can be found. Unfortunately our squad does nor stretch to that all the time, so maybe the expectation of the squad needs to be lowered a bit. Operating within FFP rules we cannot simply go out and buy enough players to put out 2 teams of high quality players.[/p][/quote]I agree with the general point you are making, and the FFP constraints might well mean that we can't create the type of squad I mentioned in my earlier posting, but we can make a start. We can continue to develope the likes of Solly whilst trying to hold on to Buckley for another couple of seasons. If we had a, 'can't refuse offer for Buckley,' then we should buy a replacement to work along side Solly, thus, in time, creating competition for places. I don't think any club can build a successful squad in just one season, not unless you spend like crazy, and the FFP prevents that, or is supposed to. It could take a couple of years to develope a truly challenging squad and then we would be looking to challenge the following year for promotion, if that's the way it goes, the fans will have to be content with seeing how the squad developes rather than looking for promotion every single year, but that doesn't mean that a whole lot of fun will be had whilst the squad developes. The excitement of what is to come could be enough for the fans if they can see progress on the park, if they see younger faster and more skillfull players one by one the starting to fill the starting spots, and simillar players progressing out of the new acadamy creating competition. Two years, three or maybe even four years may elapse before we have a truly exciting squad, but I don't think that will matter so long as the fans are entertained and we retain a top 8 or or place. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

3:38pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

fansunited wrote:
Give me Calde & Chicksen any day. Bruno gives away to many set pieces.....
So you'd pick Chicksen over PoTS contender Ward?
[quote][p][bold]fansunited[/bold] wrote: Give me Calde & Chicksen any day. Bruno gives away to many set pieces.....[/p][/quote]So you'd pick Chicksen over PoTS contender Ward? Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

3:58pm Thu 27 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
fansunited wrote:
Give me Calde & Chicksen any day. Bruno gives away to many set pieces.....
So you'd pick Chicksen over PoTS contender Ward?
surely not, Ward or Upson have to be the main contenders for PoTS, with Upson probably winning
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fansunited[/bold] wrote: Give me Calde & Chicksen any day. Bruno gives away to many set pieces.....[/p][/quote]So you'd pick Chicksen over PoTS contender Ward?[/p][/quote]surely not, Ward or Upson have to be the main contenders for PoTS, with Upson probably winning VegasSeagull
  • Score: 7

4:23pm Thu 27 Mar 14

ringtone says...

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
Alfie T wrote:
I fancy a big win Saturday, 3/4 nil, just a feeling,don't shoot the mesanger :-)
Whatever you are on, Alfie, I'd certainly like some...
Hes on a wind up, dont respond.
[quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: I fancy a big win Saturday, 3/4 nil, just a feeling,don't shoot the mesanger :-)[/p][/quote]Whatever you are on, Alfie, I'd certainly like some...[/p][/quote]Hes on a wind up, dont respond. ringtone
  • Score: 0

4:45pm Thu 27 Mar 14

To baldly go says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
fansunited wrote:
Give me Calde & Chicksen any day. Bruno gives away to many set pieces.....
So you'd pick Chicksen over PoTS contender Ward?
Ward won't be here next season so we should be giving Chicksen more game time, what we've seen of him so far has been positive and if he gets half a dozen games before the end of the season we should know for sure if he's up to the standard required. Caldi is a better defender than Bruno, Bruno has the flair but gets carried away. Over a season, Caldi would be more reliable than Bruno. We do need to look at a new younger right back, like we have done with Chicksen at LB, thinking about it, we need some youth in a lot of positions!
What ever happens to the Albion, big changes needed in the summer and a different approach from Oscar is required. UTA
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fansunited[/bold] wrote: Give me Calde & Chicksen any day. Bruno gives away to many set pieces.....[/p][/quote]So you'd pick Chicksen over PoTS contender Ward?[/p][/quote]Ward won't be here next season so we should be giving Chicksen more game time, what we've seen of him so far has been positive and if he gets half a dozen games before the end of the season we should know for sure if he's up to the standard required. Caldi is a better defender than Bruno, Bruno has the flair but gets carried away. Over a season, Caldi would be more reliable than Bruno. We do need to look at a new younger right back, like we have done with Chicksen at LB, thinking about it, we need some youth in a lot of positions! What ever happens to the Albion, big changes needed in the summer and a different approach from Oscar is required. UTA To baldly go
  • Score: 0

5:19pm Thu 27 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

pte wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
The possible suspension of Bruno and his place going to Calde, seems to me to highlight our squads short comings. Bruno drops out and Calde comes in, from a defensive stance we lose nothing and to me, there is only one other position on the park where we can take a guy out and not lose anything by his replacement, and that is Dunk for Greer.
People will compare the attributes of Bruno V Calde, Dunk V Greer so some might not agree with me but, generally speaking these are the only positions where we have quality cover. TK, Buckley, Ince, Ulloa, Upson, Crofts and Ward are all stand out players that do not have quality cover, and there in lies the problem.

I think our commendable efforts to comply with the FFP rules has meant that, when key players have been injured, and the type of injury has required them to be out for several weeks or months, our compliance efforts have stopped us from buying, a few other clubs acted differently in the same circumstances.
We do have some decent players that I have not mentioned, Orlandi being one, and I guess JFC is currently occupying his place in the team, but JFC is not at the level of Orlandi, not yet. Solly is a good option but again, he is not at the level of Buckley. Stephens looks like a good buy and Andrews has plenty of experience, but for me, neither one has given us what we lost when Crofts was ruled out for the season.

When this season is done, and assuming that promotion does not happen, I would hope that Oscar and others sit down and evaluate every single player so that come next season, if a key player is out for a month or so, we have the Bruno V Calde, or the Dunk V Greer situation, lose one and the other comes in losing nothing. We need twenty two players competing for places, with seven or eight others that can give us tacical change options. To get to this situation we will have to sell/release some players and buy, money will have to be made available, maybe the Nike deal will help that happen.

If we are to challenge nex year we can't have the situation where if Ulloa is out, we have a problem, if Ince is out we have the same problem, or any of our stand out players creating a major problem if injured. On paper it might look as though we have competition for places but the reality is, we don't.
Sorry, can you provide a summary at the end for those that don't have time to read your PHd thesis
what a childish comment you make
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: The possible suspension of Bruno and his place going to Calde, seems to me to highlight our squads short comings. Bruno drops out and Calde comes in, from a defensive stance we lose nothing and to me, there is only one other position on the park where we can take a guy out and not lose anything by his replacement, and that is Dunk for Greer. People will compare the attributes of Bruno V Calde, Dunk V Greer so some might not agree with me but, generally speaking these are the only positions where we have quality cover. TK, Buckley, Ince, Ulloa, Upson, Crofts and Ward are all stand out players that do not have quality cover, and there in lies the problem. I think our commendable efforts to comply with the FFP rules has meant that, when key players have been injured, and the type of injury has required them to be out for several weeks or months, our compliance efforts have stopped us from buying, a few other clubs acted differently in the same circumstances. We do have some decent players that I have not mentioned, Orlandi being one, and I guess JFC is currently occupying his place in the team, but JFC is not at the level of Orlandi, not yet. Solly is a good option but again, he is not at the level of Buckley. Stephens looks like a good buy and Andrews has plenty of experience, but for me, neither one has given us what we lost when Crofts was ruled out for the season. When this season is done, and assuming that promotion does not happen, I would hope that Oscar and others sit down and evaluate every single player so that come next season, if a key player is out for a month or so, we have the Bruno V Calde, or the Dunk V Greer situation, lose one and the other comes in losing nothing. We need twenty two players competing for places, with seven or eight others that can give us tacical change options. To get to this situation we will have to sell/release some players and buy, money will have to be made available, maybe the Nike deal will help that happen. If we are to challenge nex year we can't have the situation where if Ulloa is out, we have a problem, if Ince is out we have the same problem, or any of our stand out players creating a major problem if injured. On paper it might look as though we have competition for places but the reality is, we don't.[/p][/quote]Sorry, can you provide a summary at the end for those that don't have time to read your PHd thesis[/p][/quote]what a childish comment you make VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

5:33pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Captain Haddock wrote:
fansunited wrote: Give me Calde & Chicksen any day. Bruno gives away to many set pieces.....
So you'd pick Chicksen over PoTS contender Ward?
surely not, Ward or Upson have to be the main contenders for PoTS, with Upson probably winning
Indeed.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fansunited[/bold] wrote: Give me Calde & Chicksen any day. Bruno gives away to many set pieces.....[/p][/quote]So you'd pick Chicksen over PoTS contender Ward?[/p][/quote]surely not, Ward or Upson have to be the main contenders for PoTS, with Upson probably winning[/p][/quote]Indeed. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 0

5:40pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

To baldly go wrote:
Captain Haddock wrote:
fansunited wrote: Give me Calde & Chicksen any day. Bruno gives away to many set pieces.....
So you'd pick Chicksen over PoTS contender Ward?
Ward won't be here next season so we should be giving Chicksen more game time, what we've seen of him so far has been positive and if he gets half a dozen games before the end of the season we should know for sure if he's up to the standard required. Caldi is a better defender than Bruno, Bruno has the flair but gets carried away. Over a season, Caldi would be more reliable than Bruno. We do need to look at a new younger right back, like we have done with Chicksen at LB, thinking about it, we need some youth in a lot of positions! What ever happens to the Albion, big changes needed in the summer and a different approach from Oscar is required. UTA
While you make fair points in general, TBG, I'm not so convinced we won't see Ward back in the stripes next season. Wolves will be keen to offload him and his high wage before his last year finishes and we could secure him for a nominal fee and a lower wage than he's on now. He knows joining us, where he's happy and flourishing and with progress potential to The PL would be worth the one season drop in earnings. He certainly won't be on those wages after 2015 anyway and getting perhaps a three year deal this summer would suit. I hope he signs. I'm a big fan of his football and his spirit.
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fansunited[/bold] wrote: Give me Calde & Chicksen any day. Bruno gives away to many set pieces.....[/p][/quote]So you'd pick Chicksen over PoTS contender Ward?[/p][/quote]Ward won't be here next season so we should be giving Chicksen more game time, what we've seen of him so far has been positive and if he gets half a dozen games before the end of the season we should know for sure if he's up to the standard required. Caldi is a better defender than Bruno, Bruno has the flair but gets carried away. Over a season, Caldi would be more reliable than Bruno. We do need to look at a new younger right back, like we have done with Chicksen at LB, thinking about it, we need some youth in a lot of positions! What ever happens to the Albion, big changes needed in the summer and a different approach from Oscar is required. UTA[/p][/quote]While you make fair points in general, TBG, I'm not so convinced we won't see Ward back in the stripes next season. Wolves will be keen to offload him and his high wage before his last year finishes and we could secure him for a nominal fee and a lower wage than he's on now. He knows joining us, where he's happy and flourishing and with progress potential to The PL would be worth the one season drop in earnings. He certainly won't be on those wages after 2015 anyway and getting perhaps a three year deal this summer would suit. I hope he signs. I'm a big fan of his football and his spirit. Captain Haddock
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5:41pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
pte wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote: The possible suspension of Bruno and his place going to Calde, seems to me to highlight our squads short comings. Bruno drops out and Calde comes in, from a defensive stance we lose nothing and to me, there is only one other position on the park where we can take a guy out and not lose anything by his replacement, and that is Dunk for Greer. People will compare the attributes of Bruno V Calde, Dunk V Greer so some might not agree with me but, generally speaking these are the only positions where we have quality cover. TK, Buckley, Ince, Ulloa, Upson, Crofts and Ward are all stand out players that do not have quality cover, and there in lies the problem. I think our commendable efforts to comply with the FFP rules has meant that, when key players have been injured, and the type of injury has required them to be out for several weeks or months, our compliance efforts have stopped us from buying, a few other clubs acted differently in the same circumstances. We do have some decent players that I have not mentioned, Orlandi being one, and I guess JFC is currently occupying his place in the team, but JFC is not at the level of Orlandi, not yet. Solly is a good option but again, he is not at the level of Buckley. Stephens looks like a good buy and Andrews has plenty of experience, but for me, neither one has given us what we lost when Crofts was ruled out for the season. When this season is done, and assuming that promotion does not happen, I would hope that Oscar and others sit down and evaluate every single player so that come next season, if a key player is out for a month or so, we have the Bruno V Calde, or the Dunk V Greer situation, lose one and the other comes in losing nothing. We need twenty two players competing for places, with seven or eight others that can give us tacical change options. To get to this situation we will have to sell/release some players and buy, money will have to be made available, maybe the Nike deal will help that happen. If we are to challenge nex year we can't have the situation where if Ulloa is out, we have a problem, if Ince is out we have the same problem, or any of our stand out players creating a major problem if injured. On paper it might look as though we have competition for places but the reality is, we don't.
Sorry, can you provide a summary at the end for those that don't have time to read your PHd thesis
what a childish comment you make
And indeed again!!!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: The possible suspension of Bruno and his place going to Calde, seems to me to highlight our squads short comings. Bruno drops out and Calde comes in, from a defensive stance we lose nothing and to me, there is only one other position on the park where we can take a guy out and not lose anything by his replacement, and that is Dunk for Greer. People will compare the attributes of Bruno V Calde, Dunk V Greer so some might not agree with me but, generally speaking these are the only positions where we have quality cover. TK, Buckley, Ince, Ulloa, Upson, Crofts and Ward are all stand out players that do not have quality cover, and there in lies the problem. I think our commendable efforts to comply with the FFP rules has meant that, when key players have been injured, and the type of injury has required them to be out for several weeks or months, our compliance efforts have stopped us from buying, a few other clubs acted differently in the same circumstances. We do have some decent players that I have not mentioned, Orlandi being one, and I guess JFC is currently occupying his place in the team, but JFC is not at the level of Orlandi, not yet. Solly is a good option but again, he is not at the level of Buckley. Stephens looks like a good buy and Andrews has plenty of experience, but for me, neither one has given us what we lost when Crofts was ruled out for the season. When this season is done, and assuming that promotion does not happen, I would hope that Oscar and others sit down and evaluate every single player so that come next season, if a key player is out for a month or so, we have the Bruno V Calde, or the Dunk V Greer situation, lose one and the other comes in losing nothing. We need twenty two players competing for places, with seven or eight others that can give us tacical change options. To get to this situation we will have to sell/release some players and buy, money will have to be made available, maybe the Nike deal will help that happen. If we are to challenge nex year we can't have the situation where if Ulloa is out, we have a problem, if Ince is out we have the same problem, or any of our stand out players creating a major problem if injured. On paper it might look as though we have competition for places but the reality is, we don't.[/p][/quote]Sorry, can you provide a summary at the end for those that don't have time to read your PHd thesis[/p][/quote]what a childish comment you make[/p][/quote]And indeed again!!! Captain Haddock
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6:57pm Thu 27 Mar 14

pte says...

If he wants people to read his posts he should make them shorter and get to the point or they won't get read
If he wants people to read his posts he should make them shorter and get to the point or they won't get read pte
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9:12pm Thu 27 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

pte wrote:
If he wants people to read his posts he should make them shorter and get to the point or they won't get read
I don't give a toss whether you read what I post or not, but I would ask, would you only pick up a thin book to read, or do you choose your reading material by preference of author?
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: If he wants people to read his posts he should make them shorter and get to the point or they won't get read[/p][/quote]I don't give a toss whether you read what I post or not, but I would ask, would you only pick up a thin book to read, or do you choose your reading material by preference of author? VegasSeagull
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11:34pm Thu 27 Mar 14

OldGull says...

ringtone wrote:
Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
Alfie T wrote:
I fancy a big win Saturday, 3/4 nil, just a feeling,don't shoot the mesanger :-)
Whatever you are on, Alfie, I'd certainly like some...
Hes on a wind up, dont respond.
pot kettle black
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: I fancy a big win Saturday, 3/4 nil, just a feeling,don't shoot the mesanger :-)[/p][/quote]Whatever you are on, Alfie, I'd certainly like some...[/p][/quote]Hes on a wind up, dont respond.[/p][/quote]pot kettle black OldGull
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7:41am Fri 28 Mar 14

Paul Clark Bites Yer Leg says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
East of CrawleyDown wrote: We seem to rely too heavily certain players and when something goes wrong they are blamed for the consequences. Perhaps the squad is under too much pressure and certain individuals are carrying the weight of expectation? Bruno is not always solid but combined with more solid players around him a good balance can be found. Unfortunately our squad does nor stretch to that all the time, so maybe the expectation of the squad needs to be lowered a bit. Operating within FFP rules we cannot simply go out and buy enough players to put out 2 teams of high quality players.
I agree with the general point you are making, and the FFP constraints might well mean that we can't create the type of squad I mentioned in my earlier posting, but we can make a start. We can continue to develope the likes of Solly whilst trying to hold on to Buckley for another couple of seasons. If we had a, 'can't refuse offer for Buckley,' then we should buy a replacement to work along side Solly, thus, in time, creating competition for places. I don't think any club can build a successful squad in just one season, not unless you spend like crazy, and the FFP prevents that, or is supposed to. It could take a couple of years to develope a truly challenging squad and then we would be looking to challenge the following year for promotion, if that's the way it goes, the fans will have to be content with seeing how the squad developes rather than looking for promotion every single year, but that doesn't mean that a whole lot of fun will be had whilst the squad developes. The excitement of what is to come could be enough for the fans if they can see progress on the park, if they see younger faster and more skillfull players one by one the starting to fill the starting spots, and simillar players progressing out of the new acadamy creating competition. Two years, three or maybe even four years may elapse before we have a truly exciting squad, but I don't think that will matter so long as the fans are entertained and we retain a top 8 or or place.
Good post Vegas. I enjoyed reading it even if some couldn't be bothered!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: We seem to rely too heavily certain players and when something goes wrong they are blamed for the consequences. Perhaps the squad is under too much pressure and certain individuals are carrying the weight of expectation? Bruno is not always solid but combined with more solid players around him a good balance can be found. Unfortunately our squad does nor stretch to that all the time, so maybe the expectation of the squad needs to be lowered a bit. Operating within FFP rules we cannot simply go out and buy enough players to put out 2 teams of high quality players.[/p][/quote]I agree with the general point you are making, and the FFP constraints might well mean that we can't create the type of squad I mentioned in my earlier posting, but we can make a start. We can continue to develope the likes of Solly whilst trying to hold on to Buckley for another couple of seasons. If we had a, 'can't refuse offer for Buckley,' then we should buy a replacement to work along side Solly, thus, in time, creating competition for places. I don't think any club can build a successful squad in just one season, not unless you spend like crazy, and the FFP prevents that, or is supposed to. It could take a couple of years to develope a truly challenging squad and then we would be looking to challenge the following year for promotion, if that's the way it goes, the fans will have to be content with seeing how the squad developes rather than looking for promotion every single year, but that doesn't mean that a whole lot of fun will be had whilst the squad developes. The excitement of what is to come could be enough for the fans if they can see progress on the park, if they see younger faster and more skillfull players one by one the starting to fill the starting spots, and simillar players progressing out of the new acadamy creating competition. Two years, three or maybe even four years may elapse before we have a truly exciting squad, but I don't think that will matter so long as the fans are entertained and we retain a top 8 or or place.[/p][/quote]Good post Vegas. I enjoyed reading it even if some couldn't be bothered! Paul Clark Bites Yer Leg
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12:44pm Fri 28 Mar 14

WestStander17 says...

4everaseagull wrote:
7dialsSeagul wrote:
This sniping and criticism of Bruno is pure pony!

Clearly and extremely talented footballer who leads the majority of counter-attacks from the back. Possibly the most talented footballer currently at the club and his percentage play beats people a lot although occasionally leads to problems as a downside of taking risks. Much as I love Calde, Bruno is the better player and Calde also gets beaten sometimes.

We are a better team with Bruno playing, end of.
I don't feel the sniping and criticism of Bruno is pure pony. He may be talented when going forward but as I posted a couple of weeks ago in my opinion he is our worst defender. 9 yellow cards compared to 2 for Ward. I have compared the two regular fullbacks as they are likely to be the ones facing up to a tricky wide player. What does that tell you, Ward much more disciplined and a proper defender unlike Bruno who has been an accident waiting to happen and lost us a point on Tuesday. How many times does he allow crosses into our box with his lazy marking, backing off all the time? Calde is by far the better right back of the two. Calde 2 goals this season, Bruno 0. Calde 3 assists this season, Bruno 2. Yes Bruno at times does some terrific things going forward but his job is to defend first and for me he is poor in that area. He will get his 10th booking I am sure and then our ultimate club man will get a chance once more even if it is for just 2 games.
It is pure pony! Bruno has been in great form for the last month or so. Yes, he made a mistake on Tuesday but he is a long way behind Greer in giving the ball away!

Yes, Ward and Calderon are steady but we (at least most of us) go to Football to be entertained. Its a little embarrassing but Bruno, our regular RIGHT BACK is actually our most entertaining player.

Comment on this thread are a great example of why the English national team are so dull to watch. Its because they are so terrified to express themselves, in fear of criticism, they freeze and get nowhere.

Chill out, embrace players like Bruno, you all might find its all a lot more enjoyable!

I feel for Calderon. Personally, I would've saved the Ward wages and played Calderon left back. With Ward, I'd play Calderon at right back and Bruno in midfield for some much needed creativity! Especially with Orlandi out.
[quote][p][bold]4everaseagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]7dialsSeagul[/bold] wrote: This sniping and criticism of Bruno is pure pony! Clearly and extremely talented footballer who leads the majority of counter-attacks from the back. Possibly the most talented footballer currently at the club and his percentage play beats people a lot although occasionally leads to problems as a downside of taking risks. Much as I love Calde, Bruno is the better player and Calde also gets beaten sometimes. We are a better team with Bruno playing, end of.[/p][/quote]I don't feel the sniping and criticism of Bruno is pure pony. He may be talented when going forward but as I posted a couple of weeks ago in my opinion he is our worst defender. 9 yellow cards compared to 2 for Ward. I have compared the two regular fullbacks as they are likely to be the ones facing up to a tricky wide player. What does that tell you, Ward much more disciplined and a proper defender unlike Bruno who has been an accident waiting to happen and lost us a point on Tuesday. How many times does he allow crosses into our box with his lazy marking, backing off all the time? Calde is by far the better right back of the two. Calde 2 goals this season, Bruno 0. Calde 3 assists this season, Bruno 2. Yes Bruno at times does some terrific things going forward but his job is to defend first and for me he is poor in that area. He will get his 10th booking I am sure and then our ultimate club man will get a chance once more even if it is for just 2 games.[/p][/quote]It is pure pony! Bruno has been in great form for the last month or so. Yes, he made a mistake on Tuesday but he is a long way behind Greer in giving the ball away! Yes, Ward and Calderon are steady but we (at least most of us) go to Football to be entertained. Its a little embarrassing but Bruno, our regular RIGHT BACK is actually our most entertaining player. Comment on this thread are a great example of why the English national team are so dull to watch. Its because they are so terrified to express themselves, in fear of criticism, they freeze and get nowhere. Chill out, embrace players like Bruno, you all might find its all a lot more enjoyable! I feel for Calderon. Personally, I would've saved the Ward wages and played Calderon left back. With Ward, I'd play Calderon at right back and Bruno in midfield for some much needed creativity! Especially with Orlandi out. WestStander17
  • Score: 1

1:23pm Fri 28 Mar 14

reagull says...

WestStander17 wrote:
4everaseagull wrote:
7dialsSeagul wrote:
This sniping and criticism of Bruno is pure pony!

Clearly and extremely talented footballer who leads the majority of counter-attacks from the back. Possibly the most talented footballer currently at the club and his percentage play beats people a lot although occasionally leads to problems as a downside of taking risks. Much as I love Calde, Bruno is the better player and Calde also gets beaten sometimes.

We are a better team with Bruno playing, end of.
I don't feel the sniping and criticism of Bruno is pure pony. He may be talented when going forward but as I posted a couple of weeks ago in my opinion he is our worst defender. 9 yellow cards compared to 2 for Ward. I have compared the two regular fullbacks as they are likely to be the ones facing up to a tricky wide player. What does that tell you, Ward much more disciplined and a proper defender unlike Bruno who has been an accident waiting to happen and lost us a point on Tuesday. How many times does he allow crosses into our box with his lazy marking, backing off all the time? Calde is by far the better right back of the two. Calde 2 goals this season, Bruno 0. Calde 3 assists this season, Bruno 2. Yes Bruno at times does some terrific things going forward but his job is to defend first and for me he is poor in that area. He will get his 10th booking I am sure and then our ultimate club man will get a chance once more even if it is for just 2 games.
It is pure pony! Bruno has been in great form for the last month or so. Yes, he made a mistake on Tuesday but he is a long way behind Greer in giving the ball away!

Yes, Ward and Calderon are steady but we (at least most of us) go to Football to be entertained. Its a little embarrassing but Bruno, our regular RIGHT BACK is actually our most entertaining player.

Comment on this thread are a great example of why the English national team are so dull to watch. Its because they are so terrified to express themselves, in fear of criticism, they freeze and get nowhere.

Chill out, embrace players like Bruno, you all might find its all a lot more enjoyable!

I feel for Calderon. Personally, I would've saved the Ward wages and played Calderon left back. With Ward, I'd play Calderon at right back and Bruno in midfield for some much needed creativity! Especially with Orlandi out.
I agree, as much as I hate to lose , I go to the football to be entertained and take my mind off the day to day stresses of work/family etc. I'm as quick as the next man to be p*****d off when we give the ball away but would rather see that happen occasionally and watch entertaining football than watch the ball get played back into our half from a free kick in theirs! no one seems to want to take responsibility for going forward and taking a shot on goal.
At least Lua Lua cuts inside and takes a shot every now and again and although most of these end up in the stands we've seen them go in too ...and its more than allot of our other players seem to manage! perhaps its the players, I remember the bridge and orlandi show down the left wing last season..now that was entertaining!
[quote][p][bold]WestStander17[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]4everaseagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]7dialsSeagul[/bold] wrote: This sniping and criticism of Bruno is pure pony! Clearly and extremely talented footballer who leads the majority of counter-attacks from the back. Possibly the most talented footballer currently at the club and his percentage play beats people a lot although occasionally leads to problems as a downside of taking risks. Much as I love Calde, Bruno is the better player and Calde also gets beaten sometimes. We are a better team with Bruno playing, end of.[/p][/quote]I don't feel the sniping and criticism of Bruno is pure pony. He may be talented when going forward but as I posted a couple of weeks ago in my opinion he is our worst defender. 9 yellow cards compared to 2 for Ward. I have compared the two regular fullbacks as they are likely to be the ones facing up to a tricky wide player. What does that tell you, Ward much more disciplined and a proper defender unlike Bruno who has been an accident waiting to happen and lost us a point on Tuesday. How many times does he allow crosses into our box with his lazy marking, backing off all the time? Calde is by far the better right back of the two. Calde 2 goals this season, Bruno 0. Calde 3 assists this season, Bruno 2. Yes Bruno at times does some terrific things going forward but his job is to defend first and for me he is poor in that area. He will get his 10th booking I am sure and then our ultimate club man will get a chance once more even if it is for just 2 games.[/p][/quote]It is pure pony! Bruno has been in great form for the last month or so. Yes, he made a mistake on Tuesday but he is a long way behind Greer in giving the ball away! Yes, Ward and Calderon are steady but we (at least most of us) go to Football to be entertained. Its a little embarrassing but Bruno, our regular RIGHT BACK is actually our most entertaining player. Comment on this thread are a great example of why the English national team are so dull to watch. Its because they are so terrified to express themselves, in fear of criticism, they freeze and get nowhere. Chill out, embrace players like Bruno, you all might find its all a lot more enjoyable! I feel for Calderon. Personally, I would've saved the Ward wages and played Calderon left back. With Ward, I'd play Calderon at right back and Bruno in midfield for some much needed creativity! Especially with Orlandi out.[/p][/quote]I agree, as much as I hate to lose , I go to the football to be entertained and take my mind off the day to day stresses of work/family etc. I'm as quick as the next man to be p*****d off when we give the ball away but would rather see that happen occasionally and watch entertaining football than watch the ball get played back into our half from a free kick in theirs! no one seems to want to take responsibility for going forward and taking a shot on goal. At least Lua Lua cuts inside and takes a shot every now and again and although most of these end up in the stands we've seen them go in too ...and its more than allot of our other players seem to manage! perhaps its the players, I remember the bridge and orlandi show down the left wing last season..now that was entertaining! reagull
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