Oscar will play it safe with striker Ulloa

Leo Ulloa will only play if Albion are convinced he is over a virus

Leo Ulloa will only play if Albion are convinced he is over a virus

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Oscar Garcia last night vowed to take no risks with the fitness of his 12-goal leading scorer.

But he is confident Leo Ulloa will be back to crack one of the more stubborn defences in the Championship.

Ulloa reports for training today after missing Tuesday’s wasteful 1-0 defeat at Sheffield Wednesday due to a virus.

Dale Stephens and Inigo Calderon are also expected to return to contention after illness.

The Seagulls’ play-off chasing squad rested yesterday ahead of Middlesbrough’s visit to the Amex tomorrow.

Head coach Oscar said: “Leo has now had three days to recover. He had a sort of virus. He was being sick and had a temperature.

“We have to see how he is because we have nine games to go and we don’t intend to take any risks with him.

“We need to make sure he doesn’t have any muscular problem from being ill and dehydrated. We will see.”

Oscar insists Craig Mackail-Smith and Will Hoskins are not yet ready to ease the load up front as they return from long-term injuries.

He added: “Hoskins trained apart from squad on Wednesday and Mackail-Smith did a bit of work us but not all the session.

“It’s difficult. Macca still hasn’t played 90 minutes in a match with the development squad, just 70 minutes.”

Middlesbrough are conceding an average of less than one goal per game in their four months under head coach Aitor Karanka, despite leaking five in their last two outings.

Oscar admits his men might need to be patient to break them down.

He warned: “They are a team who have don’t usually concede goals, who are very organised and have fast players up front to hit you on the counter-attack.”

Andrea Orlandi (thigh) is again likely to be missing.

Albion’s final home game of the regular season, versus Yeovil, has been brought forward a day to Friday, April 25 (7.45pm) due to live screening on Sky Sports.

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7:20am Fri 28 Mar 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Ha Ha!! There it is! Friday, March 25th, 2014 and Oscar utters the immortal words:
"It's difficult" !!!
Ha Ha!! There it is! Friday, March 25th, 2014 and Oscar utters the immortal words: "It's difficult" !!! Albion In Staffs
  • Score: -8

7:20am Fri 28 Mar 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Ha Ha!! There it is! Friday, March 25th, 2014 and Oscar utters the immortal words:
"It's difficult" !!!
28th....
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: Ha Ha!! There it is! Friday, March 25th, 2014 and Oscar utters the immortal words: "It's difficult" !!![/p][/quote]28th.... Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 9

7:40am Fri 28 Mar 14

East of CrawleyDown says...

Sounds as though Ulloa may have had a dodgy takeaway, eminently possible!
Sounds as though Ulloa may have had a dodgy takeaway, eminently possible! East of CrawleyDown
  • Score: 0

7:45am Fri 28 Mar 14

Steveg1958 says...

Hoskins and CMS not ready ?, they have both played some minutes for the Under 21's surely they are worth a bench place at least, that would do several things, 1, Give the team a lift as a whole, 2, Give us goal scoring options, 3, give the opposition something else to think about apart from our usual 1 up !, and give the fans a lift. Don't we have to go for wins now ? unless of course the management have given up on the play offs and will continue with their defence first policy. Half an hour each might just mean we get a win who knows.
Hoskins and CMS not ready ?, they have both played some minutes for the Under 21's surely they are worth a bench place at least, that would do several things, 1, Give the team a lift as a whole, 2, Give us goal scoring options, 3, give the opposition something else to think about apart from our usual 1 up !, and give the fans a lift. Don't we have to go for wins now ? unless of course the management have given up on the play offs and will continue with their defence first policy. Half an hour each might just mean we get a win who knows. Steveg1958
  • Score: 3

7:59am Fri 28 Mar 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Steveg1958 wrote:
Hoskins and CMS not ready ?, they have both played some minutes for the Under 21's surely they are worth a bench place at least, that would do several things, 1, Give the team a lift as a whole, 2, Give us goal scoring options, 3, give the opposition something else to think about apart from our usual 1 up !, and give the fans a lift. Don't we have to go for wins now ? unless of course the management have given up on the play offs and will continue with their defence first policy. Half an hour each might just mean we get a win who knows.
Wit regard to your first question, the answer would appear to be; 'No they're not.'
Surely you can't question the position of a man who works with the players every day of the week? While all your additional points would be entirely relevant if they were ready, they're clearly not.
They're both coming back from massive injuries and . I'd suggest that we accept the judgement of the pros than question it from afar?
[quote][p][bold]Steveg1958[/bold] wrote: Hoskins and CMS not ready ?, they have both played some minutes for the Under 21's surely they are worth a bench place at least, that would do several things, 1, Give the team a lift as a whole, 2, Give us goal scoring options, 3, give the opposition something else to think about apart from our usual 1 up !, and give the fans a lift. Don't we have to go for wins now ? unless of course the management have given up on the play offs and will continue with their defence first policy. Half an hour each might just mean we get a win who knows.[/p][/quote]Wit regard to your first question, the answer would appear to be; 'No they're not.' Surely you can't question the position of a man who works with the players every day of the week? While all your additional points would be entirely relevant if they were ready, they're clearly not. They're both coming back from massive injuries and . I'd suggest that we accept the judgement of the pros than question it from afar? Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 11

8:20am Fri 28 Mar 14

pablobrowno says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Steveg1958 wrote:
Hoskins and CMS not ready ?, they have both played some minutes for the Under 21's surely they are worth a bench place at least, that would do several things, 1, Give the team a lift as a whole, 2, Give us goal scoring options, 3, give the opposition something else to think about apart from our usual 1 up !, and give the fans a lift. Don't we have to go for wins now ? unless of course the management have given up on the play offs and will continue with their defence first policy. Half an hour each might just mean we get a win who knows.
Wit regard to your first question, the answer would appear to be; 'No they're not.'
Surely you can't question the position of a man who works with the players every day of the week? While all your additional points would be entirely relevant if they were ready, they're clearly not.
They're both coming back from massive injuries and . I'd suggest that we accept the judgement of the pros than question it from afar?
No Staffs it's ok he and most others on here seem to think that Oscar is clueless despite the lifetime he has spent playing and working at the top level of the game. He also forgot the 4th possibility, which is that we rush Hoskins and Cms back to the first team and one or both relapses and is ruled out beyond doubt until next season. Wouldn't look so clever then would he.

Let's leave the players fitness down the the experts please, we can all speculate over which fit players should be picked but suggesting unfit players are picked just to "give the fans and team a lift"?? Give me strength.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steveg1958[/bold] wrote: Hoskins and CMS not ready ?, they have both played some minutes for the Under 21's surely they are worth a bench place at least, that would do several things, 1, Give the team a lift as a whole, 2, Give us goal scoring options, 3, give the opposition something else to think about apart from our usual 1 up !, and give the fans a lift. Don't we have to go for wins now ? unless of course the management have given up on the play offs and will continue with their defence first policy. Half an hour each might just mean we get a win who knows.[/p][/quote]Wit regard to your first question, the answer would appear to be; 'No they're not.' Surely you can't question the position of a man who works with the players every day of the week? While all your additional points would be entirely relevant if they were ready, they're clearly not. They're both coming back from massive injuries and . I'd suggest that we accept the judgement of the pros than question it from afar?[/p][/quote]No Staffs it's ok he and most others on here seem to think that Oscar is clueless despite the lifetime he has spent playing and working at the top level of the game. He also forgot the 4th possibility, which is that we rush Hoskins and Cms back to the first team and one or both relapses and is ruled out beyond doubt until next season. Wouldn't look so clever then would he. Let's leave the players fitness down the the experts please, we can all speculate over which fit players should be picked but suggesting unfit players are picked just to "give the fans and team a lift"?? Give me strength. pablobrowno
  • Score: 6

8:31am Fri 28 Mar 14

Albion In Staffs says...

pablobrowno wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Steveg1958 wrote:
Hoskins and CMS not ready ?, they have both played some minutes for the Under 21's surely they are worth a bench place at least, that would do several things, 1, Give the team a lift as a whole, 2, Give us goal scoring options, 3, give the opposition something else to think about apart from our usual 1 up !, and give the fans a lift. Don't we have to go for wins now ? unless of course the management have given up on the play offs and will continue with their defence first policy. Half an hour each might just mean we get a win who knows.
Wit regard to your first question, the answer would appear to be; 'No they're not.'
Surely you can't question the position of a man who works with the players every day of the week? While all your additional points would be entirely relevant if they were ready, they're clearly not.
They're both coming back from massive injuries and . I'd suggest that we accept the judgement of the pros than question it from afar?
No Staffs it's ok he and most others on here seem to think that Oscar is clueless despite the lifetime he has spent playing and working at the top level of the game. He also forgot the 4th possibility, which is that we rush Hoskins and Cms back to the first team and one or both relapses and is ruled out beyond doubt until next season. Wouldn't look so clever then would he.

Let's leave the players fitness down the the experts please, we can all speculate over which fit players should be picked but suggesting unfit players are picked just to "give the fans and team a lift"?? Give me strength.
PB, I'm totally onside. The 4th option is exactly the point and yes, let's disagree on the selection of those available. Questioning the fact that we seem to have more than our fair share of injuries and breakdowns is one thing, but passing judgement on an issue we have no idea on is ridiculous.
I did hear that OG chose the chicken sandwich for lunch yesterday, which I thought was an abysmal decision. Completely clueless.
[quote][p][bold]pablobrowno[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steveg1958[/bold] wrote: Hoskins and CMS not ready ?, they have both played some minutes for the Under 21's surely they are worth a bench place at least, that would do several things, 1, Give the team a lift as a whole, 2, Give us goal scoring options, 3, give the opposition something else to think about apart from our usual 1 up !, and give the fans a lift. Don't we have to go for wins now ? unless of course the management have given up on the play offs and will continue with their defence first policy. Half an hour each might just mean we get a win who knows.[/p][/quote]Wit regard to your first question, the answer would appear to be; 'No they're not.' Surely you can't question the position of a man who works with the players every day of the week? While all your additional points would be entirely relevant if they were ready, they're clearly not. They're both coming back from massive injuries and . I'd suggest that we accept the judgement of the pros than question it from afar?[/p][/quote]No Staffs it's ok he and most others on here seem to think that Oscar is clueless despite the lifetime he has spent playing and working at the top level of the game. He also forgot the 4th possibility, which is that we rush Hoskins and Cms back to the first team and one or both relapses and is ruled out beyond doubt until next season. Wouldn't look so clever then would he. Let's leave the players fitness down the the experts please, we can all speculate over which fit players should be picked but suggesting unfit players are picked just to "give the fans and team a lift"?? Give me strength.[/p][/quote]PB, I'm totally onside. The 4th option is exactly the point and yes, let's disagree on the selection of those available. Questioning the fact that we seem to have more than our fair share of injuries and breakdowns is one thing, but passing judgement on an issue we have no idea on is ridiculous. I did hear that OG chose the chicken sandwich for lunch yesterday, which I thought was an abysmal decision. Completely clueless. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 1

8:47am Fri 28 Mar 14

woodcroft says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Ha Ha!! There it is! Friday, March 25th, 2014 and Oscar utters the immortal words:
"It's difficult" !!!
Well, he did not say complicated, 5 times in one sentence.
Yes it is difficult and complicated but we can go again next season and Oscar and Jones will have no excuses.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: Ha Ha!! There it is! Friday, March 25th, 2014 and Oscar utters the immortal words: "It's difficult" !!![/p][/quote]Well, he did not say complicated, 5 times in one sentence. Yes it is difficult and complicated but we can go again next season and Oscar and Jones will have no excuses. woodcroft
  • Score: 1

8:52am Fri 28 Mar 14

Albion In Staffs says...

woodcroft wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Ha Ha!! There it is! Friday, March 25th, 2014 and Oscar utters the immortal words:
"It's difficult" !!!
Well, he did not say complicated, 5 times in one sentence.
Yes it is difficult and complicated but we can go again next season and Oscar and Jones will have no excuses.
Completely right! Which is why I can't agree with all the current knee-jerk jockeys.
OG didn't have a full summer last year, he's had to make do this year, we're not ready for the PL, but after a year in harness and a summer behind him we can start assessing.
I still don't think it will be a time to 'judge' but we'll all have a far better idea of where we are. Keep changing the manager and we'll have endless seasons like this one.
He'll be alright.
[quote][p][bold]woodcroft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: Ha Ha!! There it is! Friday, March 25th, 2014 and Oscar utters the immortal words: "It's difficult" !!![/p][/quote]Well, he did not say complicated, 5 times in one sentence. Yes it is difficult and complicated but we can go again next season and Oscar and Jones will have no excuses.[/p][/quote]Completely right! Which is why I can't agree with all the current knee-jerk jockeys. OG didn't have a full summer last year, he's had to make do this year, we're not ready for the PL, but after a year in harness and a summer behind him we can start assessing. I still don't think it will be a time to 'judge' but we'll all have a far better idea of where we are. Keep changing the manager and we'll have endless seasons like this one. He'll be alright. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 3

8:58am Fri 28 Mar 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Steveg1958 wrote:
Hoskins and CMS not ready ?, they have both played some minutes for the Under 21's surely they are worth a bench place at least, that would do several things, 1, Give the team a lift as a whole, 2, Give us goal scoring options, 3, give the opposition something else to think about apart from our usual 1 up !, and give the fans a lift. Don't we have to go for wins now ? unless of course the management have given up on the play offs and will continue with their defence first policy. Half an hour each might just mean we get a win who knows.
What you're suggesting would be a gamble. Life is a gamble but no self respecting coach would gamble on a player's fitness especially since both have been absent for so long. Leave this to Oscar and his medical team.UTA
[quote][p][bold]Steveg1958[/bold] wrote: Hoskins and CMS not ready ?, they have both played some minutes for the Under 21's surely they are worth a bench place at least, that would do several things, 1, Give the team a lift as a whole, 2, Give us goal scoring options, 3, give the opposition something else to think about apart from our usual 1 up !, and give the fans a lift. Don't we have to go for wins now ? unless of course the management have given up on the play offs and will continue with their defence first policy. Half an hour each might just mean we get a win who knows.[/p][/quote]What you're suggesting would be a gamble. Life is a gamble but no self respecting coach would gamble on a player's fitness especially since both have been absent for so long. Leave this to Oscar and his medical team.UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 3

9:04am Fri 28 Mar 14

pablobrowno says...

At last Staffs and Grandad we have voices of reason on this site. The idiots must still be in bed. Freeloader is probably doing just that, freeloading at his mum's and still in bed.

Get behind Oscar and the boys on sat. The amusing thing is that if we win all the play off talk will be back on! Frustrating though it is that we lost our last two games we really haven't lost a lot of ground due to other teams 'crapness'.
At last Staffs and Grandad we have voices of reason on this site. The idiots must still be in bed. Freeloader is probably doing just that, freeloading at his mum's and still in bed. Get behind Oscar and the boys on sat. The amusing thing is that if we win all the play off talk will be back on! Frustrating though it is that we lost our last two games we really haven't lost a lot of ground due to other teams 'crapness'. pablobrowno
  • Score: 1

9:32am Fri 28 Mar 14

Albion In Staffs says...

pablobrowno wrote:
At last Staffs and Grandad we have voices of reason on this site. The idiots must still be in bed. Freeloader is probably doing just that, freeloading at his mum's and still in bed.

Get behind Oscar and the boys on sat. The amusing thing is that if we win all the play off talk will be back on! Frustrating though it is that we lost our last two games we really haven't lost a lot of ground due to other teams 'crapness'.
'Crapness'... If it's not in the dictionary, it should be!
Like most, whenever we play, I am willing a victory, so if my desire is rewarded in the last nine games, we'll be in the play-offs and yes, I'll be delighted and will want to win them too.
But I still don't think we're ready... yet.
[quote][p][bold]pablobrowno[/bold] wrote: At last Staffs and Grandad we have voices of reason on this site. The idiots must still be in bed. Freeloader is probably doing just that, freeloading at his mum's and still in bed. Get behind Oscar and the boys on sat. The amusing thing is that if we win all the play off talk will be back on! Frustrating though it is that we lost our last two games we really haven't lost a lot of ground due to other teams 'crapness'.[/p][/quote]'Crapness'... If it's not in the dictionary, it should be! Like most, whenever we play, I am willing a victory, so if my desire is rewarded in the last nine games, we'll be in the play-offs and yes, I'll be delighted and will want to win them too. But I still don't think we're ready... yet. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 0

10:19am Fri 28 Mar 14

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

Brighton against Middlesbrough - two teams with largely miserly defences. Doesn't exactly sound like a goal-fest is likely, does it..? Nil-nil, anyone!?
Brighton against Middlesbrough - two teams with largely miserly defences. Doesn't exactly sound like a goal-fest is likely, does it..? Nil-nil, anyone!? Willie, Willie Irvine
  • Score: 0

10:30am Fri 28 Mar 14

AlanDuffy says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
woodcroft wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Ha Ha!! There it is! Friday, March 25th, 2014 and Oscar utters the immortal words:
"It's difficult" !!!
Well, he did not say complicated, 5 times in one sentence.
Yes it is difficult and complicated but we can go again next season and Oscar and Jones will have no excuses.
Completely right! Which is why I can't agree with all the current knee-jerk jockeys.
OG didn't have a full summer last year, he's had to make do this year, we're not ready for the PL, but after a year in harness and a summer behind him we can start assessing.
I still don't think it will be a time to 'judge' but we'll all have a far better idea of where we are. Keep changing the manager and we'll have endless seasons like this one.
He'll be alright.
Agreed..Oscar has a three year contract and barring disasters I think he will be given the chance, quite rightly, to build something at Brighton. Let's not forget that Gus had time to bed in before he took us up - promotion to the Premiership is the long-term goal and i think most fans understand this and are happy with the way things are going - patience and support are required - so let's ignore the "knee-jerk jockeys" - leave the football decisions to the people in charge and do what we're here to do....support the club.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woodcroft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: Ha Ha!! There it is! Friday, March 25th, 2014 and Oscar utters the immortal words: "It's difficult" !!![/p][/quote]Well, he did not say complicated, 5 times in one sentence. Yes it is difficult and complicated but we can go again next season and Oscar and Jones will have no excuses.[/p][/quote]Completely right! Which is why I can't agree with all the current knee-jerk jockeys. OG didn't have a full summer last year, he's had to make do this year, we're not ready for the PL, but after a year in harness and a summer behind him we can start assessing. I still don't think it will be a time to 'judge' but we'll all have a far better idea of where we are. Keep changing the manager and we'll have endless seasons like this one. He'll be alright.[/p][/quote]Agreed..Oscar has a three year contract and barring disasters I think he will be given the chance, quite rightly, to build something at Brighton. Let's not forget that Gus had time to bed in before he took us up - promotion to the Premiership is the long-term goal and i think most fans understand this and are happy with the way things are going - patience and support are required - so let's ignore the "knee-jerk jockeys" - leave the football decisions to the people in charge and do what we're here to do....support the club. AlanDuffy
  • Score: 7

10:54am Fri 28 Mar 14

OldGull says...

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
Brighton against Middlesbrough - two teams with largely miserly defences. Doesn't exactly sound like a goal-fest is likely, does it..? Nil-nil, anyone!?
tell you what
I will have a bet on 0-0
That will guarantee at least 1 goal

For the Albion of course
UTA
[quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: Brighton against Middlesbrough - two teams with largely miserly defences. Doesn't exactly sound like a goal-fest is likely, does it..? Nil-nil, anyone!?[/p][/quote]tell you what I will have a bet on 0-0 That will guarantee at least 1 goal For the Albion of course UTA OldGull
  • Score: 1

11:10am Fri 28 Mar 14

Steveg1958 says...

pablobrowno wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Steveg1958 wrote:
Hoskins and CMS not ready ?, they have both played some minutes for the Under 21's surely they are worth a bench place at least, that would do several things, 1, Give the team a lift as a whole, 2, Give us goal scoring options, 3, give the opposition something else to think about apart from our usual 1 up !, and give the fans a lift. Don't we have to go for wins now ? unless of course the management have given up on the play offs and will continue with their defence first policy. Half an hour each might just mean we get a win who knows.
Wit regard to your first question, the answer would appear to be; 'No they're not.'
Surely you can't question the position of a man who works with the players every day of the week? While all your additional points would be entirely relevant if they were ready, they're clearly not.
They're both coming back from massive injuries and . I'd suggest that we accept the judgement of the pros than question it from afar?
No Staffs it's ok he and most others on here seem to think that Oscar is clueless despite the lifetime he has spent playing and working at the top level of the game. He also forgot the 4th possibility, which is that we rush Hoskins and Cms back to the first team and one or both relapses and is ruled out beyond doubt until next season. Wouldn't look so clever then would he.

Let's leave the players fitness down the the experts please, we can all speculate over which fit players should be picked but suggesting unfit players are picked just to "give the fans and team a lift"?? Give me strength.
Crikey that lit things up a bit !, I wasn't suggesting that either CMS or Hoskins plays from the start for 90 plus minutes, I said "a place on the bench" which meant that should we be at nil nil or worse with ten minutes to go, either of those two would be just as likely as Rodriguez or Lingard to score an important goal. perhaps people will agree that neither have lit the place up so far hav they ?
We need to win games now clearly, a draw at home is not good enough at this stage clearly. I too know that both are coming back from serious injuries (I tore my cruciate and Anterior knee ligaments, playing, so I know how long that takes to get over properly). but if need be both have played good game time with the under 21's, admittedly not full 90 minutes in CMS's case. but they are just as likely to break down laying for them as the are playing 10 to 15 minutes for the first team,
[quote][p][bold]pablobrowno[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steveg1958[/bold] wrote: Hoskins and CMS not ready ?, they have both played some minutes for the Under 21's surely they are worth a bench place at least, that would do several things, 1, Give the team a lift as a whole, 2, Give us goal scoring options, 3, give the opposition something else to think about apart from our usual 1 up !, and give the fans a lift. Don't we have to go for wins now ? unless of course the management have given up on the play offs and will continue with their defence first policy. Half an hour each might just mean we get a win who knows.[/p][/quote]Wit regard to your first question, the answer would appear to be; 'No they're not.' Surely you can't question the position of a man who works with the players every day of the week? While all your additional points would be entirely relevant if they were ready, they're clearly not. They're both coming back from massive injuries and . I'd suggest that we accept the judgement of the pros than question it from afar?[/p][/quote]No Staffs it's ok he and most others on here seem to think that Oscar is clueless despite the lifetime he has spent playing and working at the top level of the game. He also forgot the 4th possibility, which is that we rush Hoskins and Cms back to the first team and one or both relapses and is ruled out beyond doubt until next season. Wouldn't look so clever then would he. Let's leave the players fitness down the the experts please, we can all speculate over which fit players should be picked but suggesting unfit players are picked just to "give the fans and team a lift"?? Give me strength.[/p][/quote]Crikey that lit things up a bit !, I wasn't suggesting that either CMS or Hoskins plays from the start for 90 plus minutes, I said "a place on the bench" which meant that should we be at nil nil or worse with ten minutes to go, either of those two would be just as likely as Rodriguez or Lingard to score an important goal. perhaps people will agree that neither have lit the place up so far hav they ? We need to win games now clearly, a draw at home is not good enough at this stage clearly. I too know that both are coming back from serious injuries (I tore my cruciate and Anterior knee ligaments, playing, so I know how long that takes to get over properly). but if need be both have played good game time with the under 21's, admittedly not full 90 minutes in CMS's case. but they are just as likely to break down laying for them as the are playing 10 to 15 minutes for the first team, Steveg1958
  • Score: 0

11:29am Fri 28 Mar 14

To baldly go says...

With nine games to go and a run of 3 games away after Saturday, fans want a result, the way that the team is playing, especially at home is frustrating the fans and the only way they can air their opinions is on sites like this one, how we/they feel is no different than what is going on at Man U at the moment, a new manager, expected to carry on where the last one left off, it doesn't always work out as planned, Moyes could go before end of season so could Oscar, who knows?
Our style of play will struggle to get us out of this league imo and is the opinion of a lot of other fans as well, it works at the higher level as proved over the last few seasons against the likes of Newcastle, Arsenal, Hull etc in the cup, but this division is about blood and guts and scoring goals, we seem to be lacking in both areas at the moment.
I have only been watching the Albion since they moved to the Amex so cannot comment on the Withdean years etc, but over the last 10 games or so, we as a team have gone down hill in terms of performance/tactics, as good as Ulloa is, our tactics are not playing to his strengths, we need the wide players to stretch the opposition defence and to do this we need Buckley and LuaLua to start games, LuaLua played back to back 90 minute games just before his knee op and looked brilliant and he should be doing the same now! We have other wingers who can come on if/when they tire and play Lingard behind Ulloa, with Ince and Stevens in the middle.
On our defence, Dunk is our future so should be playing, alongside Upson imo, he is quicker across the ground and more decisive going forwards than Greer, the only way he will get experience is by playing, Bruno/Caldi splits the fans 50/50 but both are only good at this level and are getting on a bit. Ward will not be with us next season when Wolves get promoted so again we need to start playing Chicksen a bit more to see if he is up to the challenge. Our keeper will be off in the summer if any premier team comes in for him, so another area we need to be looking at.
Fans will vent their frustration by threatening to stop their season tickets etc but this is in the heat of the moment, what needs to done is to entertain us on the pitch, win or lose, at the moment it is not entertaining anyone. I pay for 3 season tickets, shirts, scarfs, food etc and will continue to do so, but it's the fans who pay game by game or on the day (because of work or financial reasons) who will stop attending if things don't improve and will be a loss in income and as a result a dull atmosphere on match days. Now is the time to throw caution to the wind and go for it, if we don't reach the playoffs at least we will have tried and have some positivity going into the summer, if we go out with a whimper, all eyes will be on Oscar from the off next season and that is when his job will be on the line. 3 points tomorrow will go some way to pleasing us fans, lose and it's season over imo and sorry to say it, but smaller crowds/income for the remainder of the season. 3-1 Albion tomorrow and LuaLua to get has 1st goal of the season. UTA
With nine games to go and a run of 3 games away after Saturday, fans want a result, the way that the team is playing, especially at home is frustrating the fans and the only way they can air their opinions is on sites like this one, how we/they feel is no different than what is going on at Man U at the moment, a new manager, expected to carry on where the last one left off, it doesn't always work out as planned, Moyes could go before end of season so could Oscar, who knows? Our style of play will struggle to get us out of this league imo and is the opinion of a lot of other fans as well, it works at the higher level as proved over the last few seasons against the likes of Newcastle, Arsenal, Hull etc in the cup, but this division is about blood and guts and scoring goals, we seem to be lacking in both areas at the moment. I have only been watching the Albion since they moved to the Amex so cannot comment on the Withdean years etc, but over the last 10 games or so, we as a team have gone down hill in terms of performance/tactics, as good as Ulloa is, our tactics are not playing to his strengths, we need the wide players to stretch the opposition defence and to do this we need Buckley and LuaLua to start games, LuaLua played back to back 90 minute games just before his knee op and looked brilliant and he should be doing the same now! We have other wingers who can come on if/when they tire and play Lingard behind Ulloa, with Ince and Stevens in the middle. On our defence, Dunk is our future so should be playing, alongside Upson imo, he is quicker across the ground and more decisive going forwards than Greer, the only way he will get experience is by playing, Bruno/Caldi splits the fans 50/50 but both are only good at this level and are getting on a bit. Ward will not be with us next season when Wolves get promoted so again we need to start playing Chicksen a bit more to see if he is up to the challenge. Our keeper will be off in the summer if any premier team comes in for him, so another area we need to be looking at. Fans will vent their frustration by threatening to stop their season tickets etc but this is in the heat of the moment, what needs to done is to entertain us on the pitch, win or lose, at the moment it is not entertaining anyone. I pay for 3 season tickets, shirts, scarfs, food etc and will continue to do so, but it's the fans who pay game by game or on the day (because of work or financial reasons) who will stop attending if things don't improve and will be a loss in income and as a result a dull atmosphere on match days. Now is the time to throw caution to the wind and go for it, if we don't reach the playoffs at least we will have tried and have some positivity going into the summer, if we go out with a whimper, all eyes will be on Oscar from the off next season and that is when his job will be on the line. 3 points tomorrow will go some way to pleasing us fans, lose and it's season over imo and sorry to say it, but smaller crowds/income for the remainder of the season. 3-1 Albion tomorrow and LuaLua to get has 1st goal of the season. UTA To baldly go
  • Score: 3

12:06pm Fri 28 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

My guess is that Tony Bloom and all the board members have nothing but respect for Oscar. Given the timing of his arrival, the horrific number of unjuries to his players and the budget restraints he has had to work to, Oscar has done a great job. One bonus that has come from Oscar's time with us, a bonus that it's true to say was brought about by needs, is that Ince, Solly and JFC have all raised their game and their monetary value to the club, they are now real assets not only on the park but also in a financial sense.
My guess is that Tony Bloom and all the board members have nothing but respect for Oscar. Given the timing of his arrival, the horrific number of unjuries to his players and the budget restraints he has had to work to, Oscar has done a great job. One bonus that has come from Oscar's time with us, a bonus that it's true to say was brought about by needs, is that Ince, Solly and JFC have all raised their game and their monetary value to the club, they are now real assets not only on the park but also in a financial sense. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 6

12:31pm Fri 28 Mar 14

To baldly go says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
My guess is that Tony Bloom and all the board members have nothing but respect for Oscar. Given the timing of his arrival, the horrific number of unjuries to his players and the budget restraints he has had to work to, Oscar has done a great job. One bonus that has come from Oscar's time with us, a bonus that it's true to say was brought about by needs, is that Ince, Solly and JFC have all raised their game and their monetary value to the club, they are now real assets not only on the park but also in a financial sense.
Vegas, agree all the people at the top respect Oscar and that he had a difficult start to the season, but, he has had 40+ games now to understand who plays where and how but seems to have taken a step backwards imo! just when others seem to be moving up the gears as it would be, we seem to be braking, we show to much respect to the opposition instead of making them FEAR us, especially at home.
The young players coming through is a big bonus of the season for me also, Ince, March, Jfc, Dunk and Chicksen, not forgetting Monakana who I have watched a couple of times now and has big potential.
To bounce back we need to throw caution to the wind for the last 9 games and go for it, we need to score more than one a game, tomorrow is like the edge of a cliff, win and we can take a step back, lose and we drop off the edge, season over imo. 3 away games to follow, Blackburn will be tough, Barnsley are fighting for their lives and Leicester will be out for revenge.
A big rebuild close season whatever happens, perhaps Oscar will stun us all and bring in what we've all been hoping for, half of the Barcelona team!!! UTA
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: My guess is that Tony Bloom and all the board members have nothing but respect for Oscar. Given the timing of his arrival, the horrific number of unjuries to his players and the budget restraints he has had to work to, Oscar has done a great job. One bonus that has come from Oscar's time with us, a bonus that it's true to say was brought about by needs, is that Ince, Solly and JFC have all raised their game and their monetary value to the club, they are now real assets not only on the park but also in a financial sense.[/p][/quote]Vegas, agree all the people at the top respect Oscar and that he had a difficult start to the season, but, he has had 40+ games now to understand who plays where and how but seems to have taken a step backwards imo! just when others seem to be moving up the gears as it would be, we seem to be braking, we show to much respect to the opposition instead of making them FEAR us, especially at home. The young players coming through is a big bonus of the season for me also, Ince, March, Jfc, Dunk and Chicksen, not forgetting Monakana who I have watched a couple of times now and has big potential. To bounce back we need to throw caution to the wind for the last 9 games and go for it, we need to score more than one a game, tomorrow is like the edge of a cliff, win and we can take a step back, lose and we drop off the edge, season over imo. 3 away games to follow, Blackburn will be tough, Barnsley are fighting for their lives and Leicester will be out for revenge. A big rebuild close season whatever happens, perhaps Oscar will stun us all and bring in what we've all been hoping for, half of the Barcelona team!!! UTA To baldly go
  • Score: 3

12:49pm Fri 28 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

To baldly go wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
My guess is that Tony Bloom and all the board members have nothing but respect for Oscar. Given the timing of his arrival, the horrific number of unjuries to his players and the budget restraints he has had to work to, Oscar has done a great job. One bonus that has come from Oscar's time with us, a bonus that it's true to say was brought about by needs, is that Ince, Solly and JFC have all raised their game and their monetary value to the club, they are now real assets not only on the park but also in a financial sense.
Vegas, agree all the people at the top respect Oscar and that he had a difficult start to the season, but, he has had 40+ games now to understand who plays where and how but seems to have taken a step backwards imo! just when others seem to be moving up the gears as it would be, we seem to be braking, we show to much respect to the opposition instead of making them FEAR us, especially at home.
The young players coming through is a big bonus of the season for me also, Ince, March, Jfc, Dunk and Chicksen, not forgetting Monakana who I have watched a couple of times now and has big potential.
To bounce back we need to throw caution to the wind for the last 9 games and go for it, we need to score more than one a game, tomorrow is like the edge of a cliff, win and we can take a step back, lose and we drop off the edge, season over imo. 3 away games to follow, Blackburn will be tough, Barnsley are fighting for their lives and Leicester will be out for revenge.
A big rebuild close season whatever happens, perhaps Oscar will stun us all and bring in what we've all been hoping for, half of the Barcelona team!!! UTA
TBG agreed let's go for it, but go for it with what line up. It seems ot me that every few days we lose another player, maybe just for a game or two, but none the less we lose them.
With the thrust of our atack coming from Ulloa, Lingard and Buckley, and I would assume that you agree with them starting, who do we add that would maka difference? Stephens for JFC is likely but I am not sure that change will start any fires. Leave out Andrews and add an extra wide player, I can see that as an option, Kaz being the obvious choice, but can Lua Lua play seven or eight 90 minute games in a row, he has struggled to play three.

Thr two guys we really need are out, Crofts and Orlandi, two other options are also out, CMS and Hoskins. Other than playing Kaz, who do we have that is fit that can make a difference? I am not saying you are wrong, I am just asking how you would change things given what we have to work with.
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: My guess is that Tony Bloom and all the board members have nothing but respect for Oscar. Given the timing of his arrival, the horrific number of unjuries to his players and the budget restraints he has had to work to, Oscar has done a great job. One bonus that has come from Oscar's time with us, a bonus that it's true to say was brought about by needs, is that Ince, Solly and JFC have all raised their game and their monetary value to the club, they are now real assets not only on the park but also in a financial sense.[/p][/quote]Vegas, agree all the people at the top respect Oscar and that he had a difficult start to the season, but, he has had 40+ games now to understand who plays where and how but seems to have taken a step backwards imo! just when others seem to be moving up the gears as it would be, we seem to be braking, we show to much respect to the opposition instead of making them FEAR us, especially at home. The young players coming through is a big bonus of the season for me also, Ince, March, Jfc, Dunk and Chicksen, not forgetting Monakana who I have watched a couple of times now and has big potential. To bounce back we need to throw caution to the wind for the last 9 games and go for it, we need to score more than one a game, tomorrow is like the edge of a cliff, win and we can take a step back, lose and we drop off the edge, season over imo. 3 away games to follow, Blackburn will be tough, Barnsley are fighting for their lives and Leicester will be out for revenge. A big rebuild close season whatever happens, perhaps Oscar will stun us all and bring in what we've all been hoping for, half of the Barcelona team!!! UTA[/p][/quote]TBG agreed let's go for it, but go for it with what line up. It seems ot me that every few days we lose another player, maybe just for a game or two, but none the less we lose them. With the thrust of our atack coming from Ulloa, Lingard and Buckley, and I would assume that you agree with them starting, who do we add that would maka difference? Stephens for JFC is likely but I am not sure that change will start any fires. Leave out Andrews and add an extra wide player, I can see that as an option, Kaz being the obvious choice, but can Lua Lua play seven or eight 90 minute games in a row, he has struggled to play three. Thr two guys we really need are out, Crofts and Orlandi, two other options are also out, CMS and Hoskins. Other than playing Kaz, who do we have that is fit that can make a difference? I am not saying you are wrong, I am just asking how you would change things given what we have to work with. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

1:04pm Fri 28 Mar 14

To baldly go says...

Vegas, for me, starting 11 would be as follows,
TK in goal obviously, defence, Caldi/Bruno, Dunk/Greer, Upson, Ward/Chicksen
midfield, Ince defensive, Stevens and Lingard with Buckley, LuaLua the wide men feeding Ulloa.
Subs, Brez, Dunk/Greer, Ward/Chicksen, Caldi/Bruno, March, Rodney, Andrews.
Don't think any of our defenders would disappoint hence the options I've put in, but I would like to see Dunk and Chicksen given their chance, maybe tomorrow is 1 game to early for them, if we win it's all back on again so maybe stick with what we know.
Vegas, for me, starting 11 would be as follows, TK in goal obviously, defence, Caldi/Bruno, Dunk/Greer, Upson, Ward/Chicksen midfield, Ince defensive, Stevens and Lingard with Buckley, LuaLua the wide men feeding Ulloa. Subs, Brez, Dunk/Greer, Ward/Chicksen, Caldi/Bruno, March, Rodney, Andrews. Don't think any of our defenders would disappoint hence the options I've put in, but I would like to see Dunk and Chicksen given their chance, maybe tomorrow is 1 game to early for them, if we win it's all back on again so maybe stick with what we know. To baldly go
  • Score: 1

1:34pm Fri 28 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

To baldly go wrote:
Vegas, for me, starting 11 would be as follows,
TK in goal obviously, defence, Caldi/Bruno, Dunk/Greer, Upson, Ward/Chicksen
midfield, Ince defensive, Stevens and Lingard with Buckley, LuaLua the wide men feeding Ulloa.
Subs, Brez, Dunk/Greer, Ward/Chicksen, Caldi/Bruno, March, Rodney, Andrews.
Don't think any of our defenders would disappoint hence the options I've put in, but I would like to see Dunk and Chicksen given their chance, maybe tomorrow is 1 game to early for them, if we win it's all back on again so maybe stick with what we know.
Yep I can see where you are coming from, but what ever options we choose at the back doesn't help in our, 'go for it,' approach. I note that Kaz comes in and Andrews goes out, Stephens is in for JFC, which as I said in my earlier comment, are the only changes we can make. From an attacking stand point the only change is Kaz, play two wide players and remove one central midfielder, and that's it.
We know the reasons why, so no need to bang on about injuries and sickness, but the simple fact is, the players available to Oscar today, those that can play in our next match, do not offer many options to allow us to go for it, in truth we have just two options, Kaz or Solly and there is only room for one of them to start. I'll go with your idea if it means that we win matches, but the out come might be that we just create more chances that are not put away, and that is the real problem, not taking our chances when we have them.
Look at how few penalties we have been awarded this year, it's a small number, a clear sign that we are not getting enough players in the box with the ball at their feet. As I said yesterday, on paper we have a good squad, but when you look at who is available for selection, our squad doesn't look any where near as good. Too many key players out for too long and our adherence to the FFP rules has meant that we haven't bought replacements, but I am ok with that, at least our guys get paid each month, unlike Leeds where they will get their money in dribs and drabs, if they are lucky. Some changes needed for next season.
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: Vegas, for me, starting 11 would be as follows, TK in goal obviously, defence, Caldi/Bruno, Dunk/Greer, Upson, Ward/Chicksen midfield, Ince defensive, Stevens and Lingard with Buckley, LuaLua the wide men feeding Ulloa. Subs, Brez, Dunk/Greer, Ward/Chicksen, Caldi/Bruno, March, Rodney, Andrews. Don't think any of our defenders would disappoint hence the options I've put in, but I would like to see Dunk and Chicksen given their chance, maybe tomorrow is 1 game to early for them, if we win it's all back on again so maybe stick with what we know.[/p][/quote]Yep I can see where you are coming from, but what ever options we choose at the back doesn't help in our, 'go for it,' approach. I note that Kaz comes in and Andrews goes out, Stephens is in for JFC, which as I said in my earlier comment, are the only changes we can make. From an attacking stand point the only change is Kaz, play two wide players and remove one central midfielder, and that's it. We know the reasons why, so no need to bang on about injuries and sickness, but the simple fact is, the players available to Oscar today, those that can play in our next match, do not offer many options to allow us to go for it, in truth we have just two options, Kaz or Solly and there is only room for one of them to start. I'll go with your idea if it means that we win matches, but the out come might be that we just create more chances that are not put away, and that is the real problem, not taking our chances when we have them. Look at how few penalties we have been awarded this year, it's a small number, a clear sign that we are not getting enough players in the box with the ball at their feet. As I said yesterday, on paper we have a good squad, but when you look at who is available for selection, our squad doesn't look any where near as good. Too many key players out for too long and our adherence to the FFP rules has meant that we haven't bought replacements, but I am ok with that, at least our guys get paid each month, unlike Leeds where they will get their money in dribs and drabs, if they are lucky. Some changes needed for next season. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

1:48pm Fri 28 Mar 14

To baldly go says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
To baldly go wrote:
Vegas, for me, starting 11 would be as follows,
TK in goal obviously, defence, Caldi/Bruno, Dunk/Greer, Upson, Ward/Chicksen
midfield, Ince defensive, Stevens and Lingard with Buckley, LuaLua the wide men feeding Ulloa.
Subs, Brez, Dunk/Greer, Ward/Chicksen, Caldi/Bruno, March, Rodney, Andrews.
Don't think any of our defenders would disappoint hence the options I've put in, but I would like to see Dunk and Chicksen given their chance, maybe tomorrow is 1 game to early for them, if we win it's all back on again so maybe stick with what we know.
Yep I can see where you are coming from, but what ever options we choose at the back doesn't help in our, 'go for it,' approach. I note that Kaz comes in and Andrews goes out, Stephens is in for JFC, which as I said in my earlier comment, are the only changes we can make. From an attacking stand point the only change is Kaz, play two wide players and remove one central midfielder, and that's it.
We know the reasons why, so no need to bang on about injuries and sickness, but the simple fact is, the players available to Oscar today, those that can play in our next match, do not offer many options to allow us to go for it, in truth we have just two options, Kaz or Solly and there is only room for one of them to start. I'll go with your idea if it means that we win matches, but the out come might be that we just create more chances that are not put away, and that is the real problem, not taking our chances when we have them.
Look at how few penalties we have been awarded this year, it's a small number, a clear sign that we are not getting enough players in the box with the ball at their feet. As I said yesterday, on paper we have a good squad, but when you look at who is available for selection, our squad doesn't look any where near as good. Too many key players out for too long and our adherence to the FFP rules has meant that we haven't bought replacements, but I am ok with that, at least our guys get paid each month, unlike Leeds where they will get their money in dribs and drabs, if they are lucky. Some changes needed for next season.
Not big changes agreed, but, like you say, no one gets into the box, LuaLua should change that and also take 2 defenders out of play in doing so, opening up the area for Ulloa, Lingard and Buckley to make the most of it, hopefully!
Lack of goals is a strange one, the amount of chances has been high and when you look at the likes of Lopez, Andrews and LuaLua who hasn't even scored once this season it's very strange compared to last season, but that's what makes it interesting/frustrat
ing and why we watch/moan about it. UTA
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: Vegas, for me, starting 11 would be as follows, TK in goal obviously, defence, Caldi/Bruno, Dunk/Greer, Upson, Ward/Chicksen midfield, Ince defensive, Stevens and Lingard with Buckley, LuaLua the wide men feeding Ulloa. Subs, Brez, Dunk/Greer, Ward/Chicksen, Caldi/Bruno, March, Rodney, Andrews. Don't think any of our defenders would disappoint hence the options I've put in, but I would like to see Dunk and Chicksen given their chance, maybe tomorrow is 1 game to early for them, if we win it's all back on again so maybe stick with what we know.[/p][/quote]Yep I can see where you are coming from, but what ever options we choose at the back doesn't help in our, 'go for it,' approach. I note that Kaz comes in and Andrews goes out, Stephens is in for JFC, which as I said in my earlier comment, are the only changes we can make. From an attacking stand point the only change is Kaz, play two wide players and remove one central midfielder, and that's it. We know the reasons why, so no need to bang on about injuries and sickness, but the simple fact is, the players available to Oscar today, those that can play in our next match, do not offer many options to allow us to go for it, in truth we have just two options, Kaz or Solly and there is only room for one of them to start. I'll go with your idea if it means that we win matches, but the out come might be that we just create more chances that are not put away, and that is the real problem, not taking our chances when we have them. Look at how few penalties we have been awarded this year, it's a small number, a clear sign that we are not getting enough players in the box with the ball at their feet. As I said yesterday, on paper we have a good squad, but when you look at who is available for selection, our squad doesn't look any where near as good. Too many key players out for too long and our adherence to the FFP rules has meant that we haven't bought replacements, but I am ok with that, at least our guys get paid each month, unlike Leeds where they will get their money in dribs and drabs, if they are lucky. Some changes needed for next season.[/p][/quote]Not big changes agreed, but, like you say, no one gets into the box, LuaLua should change that and also take 2 defenders out of play in doing so, opening up the area for Ulloa, Lingard and Buckley to make the most of it, hopefully! Lack of goals is a strange one, the amount of chances has been high and when you look at the likes of Lopez, Andrews and LuaLua who hasn't even scored once this season it's very strange compared to last season, but that's what makes it interesting/frustrat ing and why we watch/moan about it. UTA To baldly go
  • Score: 2

2:09pm Fri 28 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

TBG, our lack of goals, IMHO, stems from not having the players on the park often enough who can get the job done, and we know why we haven't. I am not convinced that the stats provided for each game are anything like a true measure of how many chances are created.
A shot from 25 yards that sails harmlessly three feet over the bar, is counted as an off target attempt, but still an attempt. Like wise a shot from the same range that is comfortably held by the keeper is considered an attempt on target, neither pose a real threat of us scoring.
If we were to be given the stats for what one would agree was a, 'real,' attempt, a situation where a defender or the keeper had to stop what was a real goal bound shot, the figures would be very different. I think that the current stats, as they are interpreted by those that compile them are about as usefull as the figures for how much possesion we have, not hard to get 65% if we spend 20 mintues of the first 45 passing sideways and backwards and less than 10 minutes passing forward. I think that some of the stats rather flatter us.
TBG, our lack of goals, IMHO, stems from not having the players on the park often enough who can get the job done, and we know why we haven't. I am not convinced that the stats provided for each game are anything like a true measure of how many chances are created. A shot from 25 yards that sails harmlessly three feet over the bar, is counted as an off target attempt, but still an attempt. Like wise a shot from the same range that is comfortably held by the keeper is considered an attempt on target, neither pose a real threat of us scoring. If we were to be given the stats for what one would agree was a, 'real,' attempt, a situation where a defender or the keeper had to stop what was a real goal bound shot, the figures would be very different. I think that the current stats, as they are interpreted by those that compile them are about as usefull as the figures for how much possesion we have, not hard to get 65% if we spend 20 mintues of the first 45 passing sideways and backwards and less than 10 minutes passing forward. I think that some of the stats rather flatter us. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

2:52pm Fri 28 Mar 14

pablobrowno says...

Steveg1958 wrote:
pablobrowno wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Steveg1958 wrote:
Hoskins and CMS not ready ?, they have both played some minutes for the Under 21's surely they are worth a bench place at least, that would do several things, 1, Give the team a lift as a whole, 2, Give us goal scoring options, 3, give the opposition something else to think about apart from our usual 1 up !, and give the fans a lift. Don't we have to go for wins now ? unless of course the management have given up on the play offs and will continue with their defence first policy. Half an hour each might just mean we get a win who knows.
Wit regard to your first question, the answer would appear to be; 'No they're not.'
Surely you can't question the position of a man who works with the players every day of the week? While all your additional points would be entirely relevant if they were ready, they're clearly not.
They're both coming back from massive injuries and . I'd suggest that we accept the judgement of the pros than question it from afar?
No Staffs it's ok he and most others on here seem to think that Oscar is clueless despite the lifetime he has spent playing and working at the top level of the game. He also forgot the 4th possibility, which is that we rush Hoskins and Cms back to the first team and one or both relapses and is ruled out beyond doubt until next season. Wouldn't look so clever then would he.

Let's leave the players fitness down the the experts please, we can all speculate over which fit players should be picked but suggesting unfit players are picked just to "give the fans and team a lift"?? Give me strength.
Crikey that lit things up a bit !, I wasn't suggesting that either CMS or Hoskins plays from the start for 90 plus minutes, I said "a place on the bench" which meant that should we be at nil nil or worse with ten minutes to go, either of those two would be just as likely as Rodriguez or Lingard to score an important goal. perhaps people will agree that neither have lit the place up so far hav they ?
We need to win games now clearly, a draw at home is not good enough at this stage clearly. I too know that both are coming back from serious injuries (I tore my cruciate and Anterior knee ligaments, playing, so I know how long that takes to get over properly). but if need be both have played good game time with the under 21's, admittedly not full 90 minutes in CMS's case. but they are just as likely to break down laying for them as the are playing 10 to 15 minutes for the first team,
Fair play. I guess the problem is the players on the bench need to be ready to play 89 minutes should the worst happen in the 1st minute, and so on. A player who could only play 15 mins would be a waste of a bench place. Also the pace and the adrenaline of a first team match at our wonderful stadium would surely encourage hosk or cms to overdo it!!
[quote][p][bold]Steveg1958[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pablobrowno[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steveg1958[/bold] wrote: Hoskins and CMS not ready ?, they have both played some minutes for the Under 21's surely they are worth a bench place at least, that would do several things, 1, Give the team a lift as a whole, 2, Give us goal scoring options, 3, give the opposition something else to think about apart from our usual 1 up !, and give the fans a lift. Don't we have to go for wins now ? unless of course the management have given up on the play offs and will continue with their defence first policy. Half an hour each might just mean we get a win who knows.[/p][/quote]Wit regard to your first question, the answer would appear to be; 'No they're not.' Surely you can't question the position of a man who works with the players every day of the week? While all your additional points would be entirely relevant if they were ready, they're clearly not. They're both coming back from massive injuries and . I'd suggest that we accept the judgement of the pros than question it from afar?[/p][/quote]No Staffs it's ok he and most others on here seem to think that Oscar is clueless despite the lifetime he has spent playing and working at the top level of the game. He also forgot the 4th possibility, which is that we rush Hoskins and Cms back to the first team and one or both relapses and is ruled out beyond doubt until next season. Wouldn't look so clever then would he. Let's leave the players fitness down the the experts please, we can all speculate over which fit players should be picked but suggesting unfit players are picked just to "give the fans and team a lift"?? Give me strength.[/p][/quote]Crikey that lit things up a bit !, I wasn't suggesting that either CMS or Hoskins plays from the start for 90 plus minutes, I said "a place on the bench" which meant that should we be at nil nil or worse with ten minutes to go, either of those two would be just as likely as Rodriguez or Lingard to score an important goal. perhaps people will agree that neither have lit the place up so far hav they ? We need to win games now clearly, a draw at home is not good enough at this stage clearly. I too know that both are coming back from serious injuries (I tore my cruciate and Anterior knee ligaments, playing, so I know how long that takes to get over properly). but if need be both have played good game time with the under 21's, admittedly not full 90 minutes in CMS's case. but they are just as likely to break down laying for them as the are playing 10 to 15 minutes for the first team,[/p][/quote]Fair play. I guess the problem is the players on the bench need to be ready to play 89 minutes should the worst happen in the 1st minute, and so on. A player who could only play 15 mins would be a waste of a bench place. Also the pace and the adrenaline of a first team match at our wonderful stadium would surely encourage hosk or cms to overdo it!! pablobrowno
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11:38pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
pablobrowno wrote:
At last Staffs and Grandad we have voices of reason on this site. The idiots must still be in bed. Freeloader is probably doing just that, freeloading at his mum's and still in bed.

Get behind Oscar and the boys on sat. The amusing thing is that if we win all the play off talk will be back on! Frustrating though it is that we lost our last two games we really haven't lost a lot of ground due to other teams 'crapness'.
'Crapness'... If it's not in the dictionary, it should be!
Like most, whenever we play, I am willing a victory, so if my desire is rewarded in the last nine games, we'll be in the play-offs and yes, I'll be delighted and will want to win them too.
But I still don't think we're ready... yet.
Or crapacity? A capacity for crapness.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pablobrowno[/bold] wrote: At last Staffs and Grandad we have voices of reason on this site. The idiots must still be in bed. Freeloader is probably doing just that, freeloading at his mum's and still in bed. Get behind Oscar and the boys on sat. The amusing thing is that if we win all the play off talk will be back on! Frustrating though it is that we lost our last two games we really haven't lost a lot of ground due to other teams 'crapness'.[/p][/quote]'Crapness'... If it's not in the dictionary, it should be! Like most, whenever we play, I am willing a victory, so if my desire is rewarded in the last nine games, we'll be in the play-offs and yes, I'll be delighted and will want to win them too. But I still don't think we're ready... yet.[/p][/quote]Or crapacity? A capacity for crapness. Captain Haddock
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