Albion midfielder backed to provide goals

Dale Stephens

Dale Stephens

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Dale Stephens has been backed to replace the goals from midfield of Andrew Crofts for Albion.

Stephens faces his former club Charlton at the Amex tomorrow seeking his first home goal after getting off the mark recently for the Seagulls at Blackburn.

The January signing also provided three assists in Tuesday's 4-1 win at Leicester and head coach Oscar Garcia thinks Stephens can emulate Crofts, who is out injured until next season.

Oscar said: "He's a player who can do this job. He has the quality and the ability and physically he is strong.

"It will be a special game for him. He played really well against Leicester and we want him to keep playing like that.

"We're very happy with him, because he is working hard, he has played games in a row and he is helping us."

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3:45pm Fri 11 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

Stephens could turn out to be a very good signing, he is starting to look like a player that slipped under the radar of some of our competitors. Stephens has a stated desire to get into the prem, that was one of the main reasons why he signed for us, but I get the feeling that he is not one that would just jump ship, I think he sees that he has a bright future with us. I could be wrong, just a gut feeling and no more.
Stephens could turn out to be a very good signing, he is starting to look like a player that slipped under the radar of some of our competitors. Stephens has a stated desire to get into the prem, that was one of the main reasons why he signed for us, but I get the feeling that he is not one that would just jump ship, I think he sees that he has a bright future with us. I could be wrong, just a gut feeling and no more. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 17

3:54pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Uckfield Seagull says...

Despite our rocky dealings this year Stephens has impressed me enough to believe he has a great future with BHA, may take a bit of time to settle in but when settling in all you can do is work hard and I see a lot of this is Stephens.

Forward thinking to next season, a fully fit Stephens, Crofts, Ince, Orlandi, Buckley, Lua Lua, March, Lopez, offers real hope for a promising campaign, I am not writing this season off but if we do fail there are positives ahead for sure, as long as we keep Ulloa, get Hoskins and CMS fully fit , add in a quality striker then our squad for scoring goals seems very strong.

Hope we keep Ward too, as although it was impossible to replace Bridge, Ward has been a model of consistency, dont think we will keep Andrews or Kemy though.
Despite our rocky dealings this year Stephens has impressed me enough to believe he has a great future with BHA, may take a bit of time to settle in but when settling in all you can do is work hard and I see a lot of this is Stephens. Forward thinking to next season, a fully fit Stephens, Crofts, Ince, Orlandi, Buckley, Lua Lua, March, Lopez, offers real hope for a promising campaign, I am not writing this season off but if we do fail there are positives ahead for sure, as long as we keep Ulloa, get Hoskins and CMS fully fit , add in a quality striker then our squad for scoring goals seems very strong. Hope we keep Ward too, as although it was impossible to replace Bridge, Ward has been a model of consistency, dont think we will keep Andrews or Kemy though. Uckfield Seagull
  • Score: 12

4:17pm Fri 11 Apr 14

tug509 says...

Proven to be a great acquisition ,and a lot of Charlton fans think he will be on the score sheet tomorrow ,tends to be the way it works ! .Cant help wondering how Stephens and Crofts might work together ?. I know it is unlikely but ,if we ever played a straight 4-4-2 ,2 strikers 2 wingers and those 2 in the middle ,we could have 2,20 goal strikers in one season !. UTA
Proven to be a great acquisition ,and a lot of Charlton fans think he will be on the score sheet tomorrow ,tends to be the way it works ! .Cant help wondering how Stephens and Crofts might work together ?. I know it is unlikely but ,if we ever played a straight 4-4-2 ,2 strikers 2 wingers and those 2 in the middle ,we could have 2,20 goal strikers in one season !. UTA tug509
  • Score: 4

4:44pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Jonathan Mouette says...

Well, let's just hope that it's DS doing the damage against his old club tomorrow and not Obaki... but then the latter probably doesn't think of the Albion as his old club, just somewhere to have put his feet up for a month or two.

Jeez, what have I said. Sod's Law and all that. Oh well, fingers crossed that it's DS who works his magic. UTA.
Well, let's just hope that it's DS doing the damage against his old club tomorrow and not Obaki... but then the latter probably doesn't think of the Albion as his old club, just somewhere to have put his feet up for a month or two. Jeez, what have I said. Sod's Law and all that. Oh well, fingers crossed that it's DS who works his magic. UTA. Jonathan Mouette
  • Score: 7

5:57pm Fri 11 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Stephens could turn out to be a very good signing, he is starting to look like a player that slipped under the radar of some of our competitors. Stephens has a stated desire to get into the prem, that was one of the main reasons why he signed for us, but I get the feeling that he is not one that would just jump ship, I think he sees that he has a bright future with us. I could be wrong, just a gut feeling and no more.
Some on here ran him down after two or three games, I think he works better in tandem then with a holding player, he worked very hard Tuesday, and had some really good moments and showed excellent vision on 3-4 occasions .
Guy will come good, him and crofts in same side should be excellent .. I wonder if we are going the same way as a number of clubs by ditching the holding player, I met up with a old mate who is a coaching advisor to the FA and academies, his words where 442 is back with pace in every department.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Stephens could turn out to be a very good signing, he is starting to look like a player that slipped under the radar of some of our competitors. Stephens has a stated desire to get into the prem, that was one of the main reasons why he signed for us, but I get the feeling that he is not one that would just jump ship, I think he sees that he has a bright future with us. I could be wrong, just a gut feeling and no more.[/p][/quote]Some on here ran him down after two or three games, I think he works better in tandem then with a holding player, he worked very hard Tuesday, and had some really good moments and showed excellent vision on 3-4 occasions . Guy will come good, him and crofts in same side should be excellent .. I wonder if we are going the same way as a number of clubs by ditching the holding player, I met up with a old mate who is a coaching advisor to the FA and academies, his words where 442 is back with pace in every department. mark by the sea
  • Score: 5

6:06pm Fri 11 Apr 14

wiseman of hove says...

I've liked Stephens from day one. No hesitation in saying that I think he will turn out to be a top, top player for us - he has all the attributes. As Vegas has pointed out, he has clearly slipped under the radar of a lot of clubs. A very astute signing.
I've liked Stephens from day one. No hesitation in saying that I think he will turn out to be a top, top player for us - he has all the attributes. As Vegas has pointed out, he has clearly slipped under the radar of a lot of clubs. A very astute signing. wiseman of hove
  • Score: 8

6:08pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Hovite says...

tug509 wrote:
Proven to be a great acquisition ,and a lot of Charlton fans think he will be on the score sheet tomorrow ,tends to be the way it works ! .Cant help wondering how Stephens and Crofts might work together ?. I know it is unlikely but ,if we ever played a straight 4-4-2 ,2 strikers 2 wingers and those 2 in the middle ,we could have 2,20 goal strikers in one season !. UTA
Yep Nathan Jones did a good job persuading him to come here.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Proven to be a great acquisition ,and a lot of Charlton fans think he will be on the score sheet tomorrow ,tends to be the way it works ! .Cant help wondering how Stephens and Crofts might work together ?. I know it is unlikely but ,if we ever played a straight 4-4-2 ,2 strikers 2 wingers and those 2 in the middle ,we could have 2,20 goal strikers in one season !. UTA[/p][/quote]Yep Nathan Jones did a good job persuading him to come here. Hovite
  • Score: 2

6:17pm Fri 11 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

tug509 wrote:
Proven to be a great acquisition ,and a lot of Charlton fans think he will be on the score sheet tomorrow ,tends to be the way it works ! .Cant help wondering how Stephens and Crofts might work together ?. I know it is unlikely but ,if we ever played a straight 4-4-2 ,2 strikers 2 wingers and those 2 in the middle ,we could have 2,20 goal strikers in one season !. UTA
Tuesday was a performance nothing like anything all season, ward got to the byline even with a lua lua ahead of him, marvellous to see all out attacking football.
I did not read your post before I posted about Stephens and crofts in same side, however I can't see ince in between! Three players means we can't play two wingers, 442 is back with pace.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Proven to be a great acquisition ,and a lot of Charlton fans think he will be on the score sheet tomorrow ,tends to be the way it works ! .Cant help wondering how Stephens and Crofts might work together ?. I know it is unlikely but ,if we ever played a straight 4-4-2 ,2 strikers 2 wingers and those 2 in the middle ,we could have 2,20 goal strikers in one season !. UTA[/p][/quote]Tuesday was a performance nothing like anything all season, ward got to the byline even with a lua lua ahead of him, marvellous to see all out attacking football. I did not read your post before I posted about Stephens and crofts in same side, however I can't see ince in between! Three players means we can't play two wingers, 442 is back with pace. mark by the sea
  • Score: 3

6:28pm Fri 11 Apr 14

JeffLomer says...

I personally like Stephens I think he has settled in well since he joined in January, like anyone starting with a different style and new team mates it takes time to get used to the way we play, he's showing us that he is good enough for our club, i witnessed what he did at Leicester Tuesday night, how many on here hope he has three assists tomorrow, that ball through to Leo for his first goal was pure class, keep up the good work!!!!
I personally like Stephens I think he has settled in well since he joined in January, like anyone starting with a different style and new team mates it takes time to get used to the way we play, he's showing us that he is good enough for our club, i witnessed what he did at Leicester Tuesday night, how many on here hope he has three assists tomorrow, that ball through to Leo for his first goal was pure class, keep up the good work!!!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 7

6:37pm Fri 11 Apr 14

tug509 says...

mark by the sea wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Proven to be a great acquisition ,and a lot of Charlton fans think he will be on the score sheet tomorrow ,tends to be the way it works ! .Cant help wondering how Stephens and Crofts might work together ?. I know it is unlikely but ,if we ever played a straight 4-4-2 ,2 strikers 2 wingers and those 2 in the middle ,we could have 2,20 goal strikers in one season !. UTA
Tuesday was a performance nothing like anything all season, ward got to the byline even with a lua lua ahead of him, marvellous to see all out attacking football.
I did not read your post before I posted about Stephens and crofts in same side, however I can't see ince in between! Three players means we can't play two wingers, 442 is back with pace.
Hi MBTS ,as you say Tuesday was a bit special ,it`s a shame that some of our rivals fans see it purely as them being promotion happy ,as apposed to us just playing out of our skins . I know what you mean about Ward ,he was a Bridge clone ,the way he got forward . Ince is the problem with DS and AC in the same side as you point out ,he`s too good to leave out ,whether he could fill a CD roll with a license to push forward or not i`m not sure ,as you know he was originally a defender ,but we like him as a DMF with ability ,it`s weird ,if the 4-4-2 system is the future fashion ,we might have an abundance of wealth !. UTA
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Proven to be a great acquisition ,and a lot of Charlton fans think he will be on the score sheet tomorrow ,tends to be the way it works ! .Cant help wondering how Stephens and Crofts might work together ?. I know it is unlikely but ,if we ever played a straight 4-4-2 ,2 strikers 2 wingers and those 2 in the middle ,we could have 2,20 goal strikers in one season !. UTA[/p][/quote]Tuesday was a performance nothing like anything all season, ward got to the byline even with a lua lua ahead of him, marvellous to see all out attacking football. I did not read your post before I posted about Stephens and crofts in same side, however I can't see ince in between! Three players means we can't play two wingers, 442 is back with pace.[/p][/quote]Hi MBTS ,as you say Tuesday was a bit special ,it`s a shame that some of our rivals fans see it purely as them being promotion happy ,as apposed to us just playing out of our skins . I know what you mean about Ward ,he was a Bridge clone ,the way he got forward . Ince is the problem with DS and AC in the same side as you point out ,he`s too good to leave out ,whether he could fill a CD roll with a license to push forward or not i`m not sure ,as you know he was originally a defender ,but we like him as a DMF with ability ,it`s weird ,if the 4-4-2 system is the future fashion ,we might have an abundance of wealth !. UTA tug509
  • Score: 1

6:49pm Fri 11 Apr 14

AGT999 says...

I would love to see Stephens and Crofts together next season with Ince just behind, that mid field would be loaded with goals, I really rate
Stephens.
I would love to see Stephens and Crofts together next season with Ince just behind, that mid field would be loaded with goals, I really rate Stephens. AGT999
  • Score: 2

6:51pm Fri 11 Apr 14

OldGull says...

What I saw of DS in the extended highlights, he looked real quality.
Superb pass to put leo through for his 1st goal
I have liked him from day 1.
Hopefully some people will acknowledge NJ's influence bringing him here.
I think Ince may have to wait for a return to the starting line up. KA will keep the holding midfield slot tomorrow.
Lingard is beginning to look the part in the free role behind Leo

Hopefully the same starting lineup tomorrow and a win
What I saw of DS in the extended highlights, he looked real quality. Superb pass to put leo through for his 1st goal I have liked him from day 1. Hopefully some people will acknowledge NJ's influence bringing him here. I think Ince may have to wait for a return to the starting line up. KA will keep the holding midfield slot tomorrow. Lingard is beginning to look the part in the free role behind Leo Hopefully the same starting lineup tomorrow and a win OldGull
  • Score: 7

8:24pm Fri 11 Apr 14

tug509 says...

Hovite wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Proven to be a great acquisition ,and a lot of Charlton fans think he will be on the score sheet tomorrow ,tends to be the way it works ! .Cant help wondering how Stephens and Crofts might work together ?. I know it is unlikely but ,if we ever played a straight 4-4-2 ,2 strikers 2 wingers and those 2 in the middle ,we could have 2,20 goal strikers in one season !. UTA
Yep Nathan Jones did a good job persuading him to come here.
I think perhaps the Club the Facilities and Stadium ,not to mention the salary ,the attendances ,new Training ground ,sponsorship ,Potential ,apart from the fact that we are at opposite ends of the league ,yeah it was nathan .
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Proven to be a great acquisition ,and a lot of Charlton fans think he will be on the score sheet tomorrow ,tends to be the way it works ! .Cant help wondering how Stephens and Crofts might work together ?. I know it is unlikely but ,if we ever played a straight 4-4-2 ,2 strikers 2 wingers and those 2 in the middle ,we could have 2,20 goal strikers in one season !. UTA[/p][/quote]Yep Nathan Jones did a good job persuading him to come here.[/p][/quote]I think perhaps the Club the Facilities and Stadium ,not to mention the salary ,the attendances ,new Training ground ,sponsorship ,Potential ,apart from the fact that we are at opposite ends of the league ,yeah it was nathan . tug509
  • Score: 1

8:26pm Fri 11 Apr 14

tug509 says...

tug509 wrote:
Hovite wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Proven to be a great acquisition ,and a lot of Charlton fans think he will be on the score sheet tomorrow ,tends to be the way it works ! .Cant help wondering how Stephens and Crofts might work together ?. I know it is unlikely but ,if we ever played a straight 4-4-2 ,2 strikers 2 wingers and those 2 in the middle ,we could have 2,20 goal strikers in one season !. UTA
Yep Nathan Jones did a good job persuading him to come here.
I think perhaps the Club the Facilities and Stadium ,not to mention the salary ,the attendances ,new Training ground ,sponsorship ,Potential ,apart from the fact that we are at opposite ends of the league ,yeah it was nathan .
PS ,and if nathan was still at Yeovil ,he would have gone there !.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Proven to be a great acquisition ,and a lot of Charlton fans think he will be on the score sheet tomorrow ,tends to be the way it works ! .Cant help wondering how Stephens and Crofts might work together ?. I know it is unlikely but ,if we ever played a straight 4-4-2 ,2 strikers 2 wingers and those 2 in the middle ,we could have 2,20 goal strikers in one season !. UTA[/p][/quote]Yep Nathan Jones did a good job persuading him to come here.[/p][/quote]I think perhaps the Club the Facilities and Stadium ,not to mention the salary ,the attendances ,new Training ground ,sponsorship ,Potential ,apart from the fact that we are at opposite ends of the league ,yeah it was nathan .[/p][/quote]PS ,and if nathan was still at Yeovil ,he would have gone there !. tug509
  • Score: 0

8:43pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Hovite says...

tug509 wrote:
Hovite wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Proven to be a great acquisition ,and a lot of Charlton fans think he will be on the score sheet tomorrow ,tends to be the way it works ! .Cant help wondering how Stephens and Crofts might work together ?. I know it is unlikely but ,if we ever played a straight 4-4-2 ,2 strikers 2 wingers and those 2 in the middle ,we could have 2,20 goal strikers in one season !. UTA
Yep Nathan Jones did a good job persuading him to come here.
I think perhaps the Club the Facilities and Stadium ,not to mention the salary ,the attendances ,new Training ground ,sponsorship ,Potential ,apart from the fact that we are at opposite ends of the league ,yeah it was nathan .
I thought that you were the one who is always saying that Nathan was running the show?
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Proven to be a great acquisition ,and a lot of Charlton fans think he will be on the score sheet tomorrow ,tends to be the way it works ! .Cant help wondering how Stephens and Crofts might work together ?. I know it is unlikely but ,if we ever played a straight 4-4-2 ,2 strikers 2 wingers and those 2 in the middle ,we could have 2,20 goal strikers in one season !. UTA[/p][/quote]Yep Nathan Jones did a good job persuading him to come here.[/p][/quote]I think perhaps the Club the Facilities and Stadium ,not to mention the salary ,the attendances ,new Training ground ,sponsorship ,Potential ,apart from the fact that we are at opposite ends of the league ,yeah it was nathan .[/p][/quote]I thought that you were the one who is always saying that Nathan was running the show? Hovite
  • Score: 1

9:14pm Fri 11 Apr 14

tug509 says...

Hovite wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Hovite wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Proven to be a great acquisition ,and a lot of Charlton fans think he will be on the score sheet tomorrow ,tends to be the way it works ! .Cant help wondering how Stephens and Crofts might work together ?. I know it is unlikely but ,if we ever played a straight 4-4-2 ,2 strikers 2 wingers and those 2 in the middle ,we could have 2,20 goal strikers in one season !. UTA
Yep Nathan Jones did a good job persuading him to come here.
I think perhaps the Club the Facilities and Stadium ,not to mention the salary ,the attendances ,new Training ground ,sponsorship ,Potential ,apart from the fact that we are at opposite ends of the league ,yeah it was nathan .
I thought that you were the one who is always saying that Nathan was running the show?
Not that you are often right, but you are wrong again, haven't heard much from you lately ,so am amazed that you have chosen me out of the 90+% that have expressed a concern at nathans input and a lack of Oscar`s . "I THOUGHT THAT YOU WERE THE ONE " really thats a thought ?? ,almost all on here have voiced concerns at NJs influence ,people want to hear from Oscar ,but you know that ,your just looking to stir the pot .
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Proven to be a great acquisition ,and a lot of Charlton fans think he will be on the score sheet tomorrow ,tends to be the way it works ! .Cant help wondering how Stephens and Crofts might work together ?. I know it is unlikely but ,if we ever played a straight 4-4-2 ,2 strikers 2 wingers and those 2 in the middle ,we could have 2,20 goal strikers in one season !. UTA[/p][/quote]Yep Nathan Jones did a good job persuading him to come here.[/p][/quote]I think perhaps the Club the Facilities and Stadium ,not to mention the salary ,the attendances ,new Training ground ,sponsorship ,Potential ,apart from the fact that we are at opposite ends of the league ,yeah it was nathan .[/p][/quote]I thought that you were the one who is always saying that Nathan was running the show?[/p][/quote]Not that you are often right, but you are wrong again, haven't heard much from you lately ,so am amazed that you have chosen me out of the 90+% that have expressed a concern at nathans input and a lack of Oscar`s . "I THOUGHT THAT YOU WERE THE ONE " really thats a thought ?? ,almost all on here have voiced concerns at NJs influence ,people want to hear from Oscar ,but you know that ,your just looking to stir the pot . tug509
  • Score: -1

9:18pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Many people have indeed voiced concerns at Nathan Jones's influence, but no-one yet has posted a convincing reason why. I'm not saying he's amazing at his job, I'm saying none of know either way.
Many people have indeed voiced concerns at Nathan Jones's influence, but no-one yet has posted a convincing reason why. I'm not saying he's amazing at his job, I'm saying none of know either way. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 6

10:04pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Hovite says...

tug509 wrote:
Hovite wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Hovite wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Proven to be a great acquisition ,and a lot of Charlton fans think he will be on the score sheet tomorrow ,tends to be the way it works ! .Cant help wondering how Stephens and Crofts might work together ?. I know it is unlikely but ,if we ever played a straight 4-4-2 ,2 strikers 2 wingers and those 2 in the middle ,we could have 2,20 goal strikers in one season !. UTA
Yep Nathan Jones did a good job persuading him to come here.
I think perhaps the Club the Facilities and Stadium ,not to mention the salary ,the attendances ,new Training ground ,sponsorship ,Potential ,apart from the fact that we are at opposite ends of the league ,yeah it was nathan .
I thought that you were the one who is always saying that Nathan was running the show?
Not that you are often right, but you are wrong again, haven't heard much from you lately ,so am amazed that you have chosen me out of the 90+% that have expressed a concern at nathans input and a lack of Oscar`s . "I THOUGHT THAT YOU WERE THE ONE " really thats a thought ?? ,almost all on here have voiced concerns at NJs influence ,people want to hear from Oscar ,but you know that ,your just looking to stir the pot .
As Ex-pat Arnie says, no one on here knows Nathan Jones to form an valid opinion. The thing is many give him stick but will never acknowledge the fact that he played a massive part in getting DS here and this is plain to see.? At least give him some credit where it is due.

I listen to Oscar every week on the Seagull Player.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Proven to be a great acquisition ,and a lot of Charlton fans think he will be on the score sheet tomorrow ,tends to be the way it works ! .Cant help wondering how Stephens and Crofts might work together ?. I know it is unlikely but ,if we ever played a straight 4-4-2 ,2 strikers 2 wingers and those 2 in the middle ,we could have 2,20 goal strikers in one season !. UTA[/p][/quote]Yep Nathan Jones did a good job persuading him to come here.[/p][/quote]I think perhaps the Club the Facilities and Stadium ,not to mention the salary ,the attendances ,new Training ground ,sponsorship ,Potential ,apart from the fact that we are at opposite ends of the league ,yeah it was nathan .[/p][/quote]I thought that you were the one who is always saying that Nathan was running the show?[/p][/quote]Not that you are often right, but you are wrong again, haven't heard much from you lately ,so am amazed that you have chosen me out of the 90+% that have expressed a concern at nathans input and a lack of Oscar`s . "I THOUGHT THAT YOU WERE THE ONE " really thats a thought ?? ,almost all on here have voiced concerns at NJs influence ,people want to hear from Oscar ,but you know that ,your just looking to stir the pot .[/p][/quote]As Ex-pat Arnie says, no one on here knows Nathan Jones to form an valid opinion. The thing is many give him stick but will never acknowledge the fact that he played a massive part in getting DS here and this is plain to see.? At least give him some credit where it is due. I listen to Oscar every week on the Seagull Player. Hovite
  • Score: 4

10:39pm Fri 11 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

As far as Jones goes, we don't know what his input is or has been this season, we can speculate but that's about all.

Did Jones have a hand in bringing Stephens to Brighton, probably, maybe even highly likely, but he hasn't said so. Did Burke and Day identify Stephens as a decent player and then turn to Jones for more info, possibly. To be honest I don't care who gets the credit for the lad joining us, I am just glad that he did.

Who ever makes the decisions to bring this or that player to their clubs will get it wrong from time to time, every club has no matter how good the recruiting team is. The biggest flop in recent times has to be Zaha, when taking price and his performance level into consideration, and look who made that decision.
It looks a possibility, and this might change, that Augustien might well have been a waste of money but if he is then he is the only one this year, Stephens looks like a ood buy. We entered into a couple of loan deals that also didn't work out but at least those deals only cost us wages, and we don't know how much, but the loan deal for Lingard looks very good.
As I say, you get it right and you get it wrong, the main thing is to ensure that the right outweighs the wrong. I think the loan deal for Lingard makes up for the two dodgey ones. Who ever it was that made the decisions to bring in Ward and Andrews did well. The buying of Stephens balances out the purchase of Augustien, but this lad might yet work out well, even if we do have to wait until next season to find out.
As far as Jones goes, we don't know what his input is or has been this season, we can speculate but that's about all. Did Jones have a hand in bringing Stephens to Brighton, probably, maybe even highly likely, but he hasn't said so. Did Burke and Day identify Stephens as a decent player and then turn to Jones for more info, possibly. To be honest I don't care who gets the credit for the lad joining us, I am just glad that he did. Who ever makes the decisions to bring this or that player to their clubs will get it wrong from time to time, every club has no matter how good the recruiting team is. The biggest flop in recent times has to be Zaha, when taking price and his performance level into consideration, and look who made that decision. It looks a possibility, and this might change, that Augustien might well have been a waste of money but if he is then he is the only one this year, Stephens looks like a ood buy. We entered into a couple of loan deals that also didn't work out but at least those deals only cost us wages, and we don't know how much, but the loan deal for Lingard looks very good. As I say, you get it right and you get it wrong, the main thing is to ensure that the right outweighs the wrong. I think the loan deal for Lingard makes up for the two dodgey ones. Who ever it was that made the decisions to bring in Ward and Andrews did well. The buying of Stephens balances out the purchase of Augustien, but this lad might yet work out well, even if we do have to wait until next season to find out. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 9

10:44pm Fri 11 Apr 14

gordongull says...

Disproportionate influence has been attached to Nathan Jones because of the role he has taken on as spokesman for team affairs.
That is magnified by Oscar not being an egotist or seeking the limelight.
There is no reason to suspect that that Nathan isn't effective as Assistant Coach, or that he has taken on responsibilities beyond his capabilities.
If Nathan was instrumental in the acquisition of Dale Stephens, we could use his talents in the transfer market this summer, but If he was responsible for some of the others, then maybe he should stick to coaching.
Disproportionate influence has been attached to Nathan Jones because of the role he has taken on as spokesman for team affairs. That is magnified by Oscar not being an egotist or seeking the limelight. There is no reason to suspect that that Nathan isn't effective as Assistant Coach, or that he has taken on responsibilities beyond his capabilities. If Nathan was instrumental in the acquisition of Dale Stephens, we could use his talents in the transfer market this summer, but If he was responsible for some of the others, then maybe he should stick to coaching. gordongull
  • Score: 5

12:12am Sat 12 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
As far as Jones goes, we don't know what his input is or has been this season, we can speculate but that's about all.

Did Jones have a hand in bringing Stephens to Brighton, probably, maybe even highly likely, but he hasn't said so. Did Burke and Day identify Stephens as a decent player and then turn to Jones for more info, possibly. To be honest I don't care who gets the credit for the lad joining us, I am just glad that he did.

Who ever makes the decisions to bring this or that player to their clubs will get it wrong from time to time, every club has no matter how good the recruiting team is. The biggest flop in recent times has to be Zaha, when taking price and his performance level into consideration, and look who made that decision.
It looks a possibility, and this might change, that Augustien might well have been a waste of money but if he is then he is the only one this year, Stephens looks like a ood buy. We entered into a couple of loan deals that also didn't work out but at least those deals only cost us wages, and we don't know how much, but the loan deal for Lingard looks very good.
As I say, you get it right and you get it wrong, the main thing is to ensure that the right outweighs the wrong. I think the loan deal for Lingard makes up for the two dodgey ones. Who ever it was that made the decisions to bring in Ward and Andrews did well. The buying of Stephens balances out the purchase of Augustien, but this lad might yet work out well, even if we do have to wait until next season to find out.
Tomo is going to be a fascinating team selection, if OG picks another set up, ie ince back and he drops lua lua ( maybe lua lua is not 100%) he runs the risk of a massive backlash if we don't perform!
Or does he go with his expertise and select a side he thinks will win!
If he selects another 11 from Tuesday it will show he has confidence in his actions, but if that fails to gain 3 points, the knives will be out in force come 5pm.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: As far as Jones goes, we don't know what his input is or has been this season, we can speculate but that's about all. Did Jones have a hand in bringing Stephens to Brighton, probably, maybe even highly likely, but he hasn't said so. Did Burke and Day identify Stephens as a decent player and then turn to Jones for more info, possibly. To be honest I don't care who gets the credit for the lad joining us, I am just glad that he did. Who ever makes the decisions to bring this or that player to their clubs will get it wrong from time to time, every club has no matter how good the recruiting team is. The biggest flop in recent times has to be Zaha, when taking price and his performance level into consideration, and look who made that decision. It looks a possibility, and this might change, that Augustien might well have been a waste of money but if he is then he is the only one this year, Stephens looks like a ood buy. We entered into a couple of loan deals that also didn't work out but at least those deals only cost us wages, and we don't know how much, but the loan deal for Lingard looks very good. As I say, you get it right and you get it wrong, the main thing is to ensure that the right outweighs the wrong. I think the loan deal for Lingard makes up for the two dodgey ones. Who ever it was that made the decisions to bring in Ward and Andrews did well. The buying of Stephens balances out the purchase of Augustien, but this lad might yet work out well, even if we do have to wait until next season to find out.[/p][/quote]Tomo is going to be a fascinating team selection, if OG picks another set up, ie ince back and he drops lua lua ( maybe lua lua is not 100%) he runs the risk of a massive backlash if we don't perform! Or does he go with his expertise and select a side he thinks will win! If he selects another 11 from Tuesday it will show he has confidence in his actions, but if that fails to gain 3 points, the knives will be out in force come 5pm. mark by the sea
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12:33am Sat 12 Apr 14

gilbertthecat says...

Hovite wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Hovite wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Hovite wrote:
tug509 wrote: Proven to be a great acquisition ,and a lot of Charlton fans think he will be on the score sheet tomorrow ,tends to be the way it works ! .Cant help wondering how Stephens and Crofts might work together ?. I know it is unlikely but ,if we ever played a straight 4-4-2 ,2 strikers 2 wingers and those 2 in the middle ,we could have 2,20 goal strikers in one season !. UTA
Yep Nathan Jones did a good job persuading him to come here.
I think perhaps the Club the Facilities and Stadium ,not to mention the salary ,the attendances ,new Training ground ,sponsorship ,Potential ,apart from the fact that we are at opposite ends of the league ,yeah it was nathan .
I thought that you were the one who is always saying that Nathan was running the show?
Not that you are often right, but you are wrong again, haven't heard much from you lately ,so am amazed that you have chosen me out of the 90+% that have expressed a concern at nathans input and a lack of Oscar`s . "I THOUGHT THAT YOU WERE THE ONE " really thats a thought ?? ,almost all on here have voiced concerns at NJs influence ,people want to hear from Oscar ,but you know that ,your just looking to stir the pot .
As Ex-pat Arnie says, no one on here knows Nathan Jones to form an valid opinion. The thing is many give him stick but will never acknowledge the fact that he played a massive part in getting DS here and this is plain to see.? At least give him some credit where it is due. I listen to Oscar every week on the Seagull Player.
I'm not a particular fan of NJ but that said I don't get the surprise that he should have some influence in team matters. He's the assistant to the head coach, it's his job to assist and that will inevitably mean he has some influence. If he didn't what would be the point of him being here? Ultimately OG will be the final word on decisions, not NJ. My biggest bugbear is NJ giving interviews after matches rather than OG. Then again another team (forget which) had their head goalkeeping coach giving the post match interview last week - what would we all make of that?

We really don;t know beyond this just how much influence anyone at the club has, with the obvious exception of TB of course!
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Proven to be a great acquisition ,and a lot of Charlton fans think he will be on the score sheet tomorrow ,tends to be the way it works ! .Cant help wondering how Stephens and Crofts might work together ?. I know it is unlikely but ,if we ever played a straight 4-4-2 ,2 strikers 2 wingers and those 2 in the middle ,we could have 2,20 goal strikers in one season !. UTA[/p][/quote]Yep Nathan Jones did a good job persuading him to come here.[/p][/quote]I think perhaps the Club the Facilities and Stadium ,not to mention the salary ,the attendances ,new Training ground ,sponsorship ,Potential ,apart from the fact that we are at opposite ends of the league ,yeah it was nathan .[/p][/quote]I thought that you were the one who is always saying that Nathan was running the show?[/p][/quote]Not that you are often right, but you are wrong again, haven't heard much from you lately ,so am amazed that you have chosen me out of the 90+% that have expressed a concern at nathans input and a lack of Oscar`s . "I THOUGHT THAT YOU WERE THE ONE " really thats a thought ?? ,almost all on here have voiced concerns at NJs influence ,people want to hear from Oscar ,but you know that ,your just looking to stir the pot .[/p][/quote]As Ex-pat Arnie says, no one on here knows Nathan Jones to form an valid opinion. The thing is many give him stick but will never acknowledge the fact that he played a massive part in getting DS here and this is plain to see.? At least give him some credit where it is due. I listen to Oscar every week on the Seagull Player.[/p][/quote]I'm not a particular fan of NJ but that said I don't get the surprise that he should have some influence in team matters. He's the assistant to the head coach, it's his job to assist and that will inevitably mean he has some influence. If he didn't what would be the point of him being here? Ultimately OG will be the final word on decisions, not NJ. My biggest bugbear is NJ giving interviews after matches rather than OG. Then again another team (forget which) had their head goalkeeping coach giving the post match interview last week - what would we all make of that? We really don;t know beyond this just how much influence anyone at the club has, with the obvious exception of TB of course! gilbertthecat
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9:10am Sat 12 Apr 14

graham w says...

Love all yr comments which are basically saying the same
.......Lets hope oscar gives the same team today at home a run out without changing a Thing....Tuesdays game was awsome.....
Love all yr comments which are basically saying the same .......Lets hope oscar gives the same team today at home a run out without changing a Thing....Tuesdays game was awsome..... graham w
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10:05am Sat 12 Apr 14

fatso says...

I think he had a goodgame on uesday because Andrews was playing. He had the freedom and confidence to go forward, as did Upson and Greer, because he could be confident that Andrews would cover him. When Ince plays he is not as discilined as Andrews which causes othe players to hesitate and lose impetus before going forward.
I think he had a goodgame on uesday because Andrews was playing. He had the freedom and confidence to go forward, as did Upson and Greer, because he could be confident that Andrews would cover him. When Ince plays he is not as discilined as Andrews which causes othe players to hesitate and lose impetus before going forward. fatso
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