Groundsman played key role in Albion victory

Jake Forster-Caskey salutes victory over Charlton

Jake Forster-Caskey salutes victory over Charlton

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ALBION assistant Nathan Jones has revealed the surprise extra man responsible for aiding their biggest home win since November – groundsman Steve Winterburn.

Substitute Jake Forster-Caskey rounded off the 3-0 win over Charlton on a pitch at the Amex prepared to suit the Seagulls’ desire to zip the ball around against struggling opponents.

Albion thrived on a good surface four days earlier in their resounding 4-1 victory at promoted leaders Leicester. Winterburn and his team were tasked with producing similar conditions.

Jones told The Argus: “We just asked for certain things from the groundsman and he did it. He was outstanding.

“We wanted the grass to be a certain length, a certain amount of zip about the surface. He prepared a pitch we could really play on.

“It was an outstanding pitch at Leicester. We felt we played fluently there and we knew we needed that. We couldn’t have a slow build-up because that’s what has cost us in the past against teams like Millwall and Sheffield Wednesday.”

Jesse Lingard’s early goal, his first at home, and Leo Ulloa’s 15th of the season just before half-time set up Albion’s second home win out of seven, sealed by Forster-Caskey in stoppage time.

Casper Ankergren deputised between the posts for the ill Tomasz Kuszczak but Albion’s regular No.1 should be back for the Good Friday trip to Huddersfield.

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5:35am Mon 14 Apr 14

ADS_BRAKES says...

Begs the question. Why did it take 42 games to ask the groundsman for a pitch that they can play on?
Begs the question. Why did it take 42 games to ask the groundsman for a pitch that they can play on? ADS_BRAKES
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7:11am Mon 14 Apr 14

Lord Hamilton says...

Because they are shy or he's unapproachable?
Because they are shy or he's unapproachable? Lord Hamilton
  • Score: 19

7:34am Mon 14 Apr 14

Norfolk and way says...

This is tantamount to cheating having to resort to messing around with the pitch and dodgy offsides, sounds a bit underhand. What's next putting banana skins under the oppositions feet? We should be playing fair if we're serious about the premier league. Not a popular with the supporters judging by all the empty seats either. Loads of us are off to palace next season, what they've done is worthy of a medal, we should take our hats off to them they are a fantastic club, amazing supporters, playing great attacking football, Albion just don't cut it and now we're trying to get in the play offs by cheating.
This is tantamount to cheating having to resort to messing around with the pitch and dodgy offsides, sounds a bit underhand. What's next putting banana skins under the oppositions feet? We should be playing fair if we're serious about the premier league. Not a popular with the supporters judging by all the empty seats either. Loads of us are off to palace next season, what they've done is worthy of a medal, we should take our hats off to them they are a fantastic club, amazing supporters, playing great attacking football, Albion just don't cut it and now we're trying to get in the play offs by cheating. Norfolk and way
  • Score: -108

7:48am Mon 14 Apr 14

elljam says...

Nice of Jones to finally admit that the tempo has been too slow in previous games.
Nice of Jones to finally admit that the tempo has been too slow in previous games. elljam
  • Score: 19

8:01am Mon 14 Apr 14

JeffLomer says...

Norfolk and way wrote:
This is tantamount to cheating having to resort to messing around with the pitch and dodgy offsides, sounds a bit underhand. What's next putting banana skins under the oppositions feet? We should be playing fair if we're serious about the premier league. Not a popular with the supporters judging by all the empty seats either. Loads of us are off to palace next season, what they've done is worthy of a medal, we should take our hats off to them they are a fantastic club, amazing supporters, playing great attacking football, Albion just don't cut it and now we're trying to get in the play offs by cheating.
Muppet jog onto palace then no one cares mate!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: This is tantamount to cheating having to resort to messing around with the pitch and dodgy offsides, sounds a bit underhand. What's next putting banana skins under the oppositions feet? We should be playing fair if we're serious about the premier league. Not a popular with the supporters judging by all the empty seats either. Loads of us are off to palace next season, what they've done is worthy of a medal, we should take our hats off to them they are a fantastic club, amazing supporters, playing great attacking football, Albion just don't cut it and now we're trying to get in the play offs by cheating.[/p][/quote]Muppet jog onto palace then no one cares mate!!!!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 27

8:03am Mon 14 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

elljam wrote:
Nice of Jones to finally admit that the tempo has been too slow in previous games.
Yes and claiming it's down to the pitch is a laugh!
Someone has either told OG to be more positive , or the penny has dropped,
With crofts back next season, I have to wonder where ince will get a game?
He can't play in a conventional centre two with Stephens, he lacks creativity, mobility .. I can see him covering as a central defender next season, maybe along side upson? But it's fair to say the fane are finally getting real football after safety first for 40 games..
I would imagine cms can't wait for next season , and finally play as a two with ulloa, then we will see him play to his strengths ...
FIANL word on Hoskins , if he can't make the 18 when we had Buckley not fit, will he get a contract?
Buckley back in training today! More attacking options for Friday!,
Uta
[quote][p][bold]elljam[/bold] wrote: Nice of Jones to finally admit that the tempo has been too slow in previous games.[/p][/quote]Yes and claiming it's down to the pitch is a laugh! Someone has either told OG to be more positive , or the penny has dropped, With crofts back next season, I have to wonder where ince will get a game? He can't play in a conventional centre two with Stephens, he lacks creativity, mobility .. I can see him covering as a central defender next season, maybe along side upson? But it's fair to say the fane are finally getting real football after safety first for 40 games.. I would imagine cms can't wait for next season , and finally play as a two with ulloa, then we will see him play to his strengths ... FIANL word on Hoskins , if he can't make the 18 when we had Buckley not fit, will he get a contract? Buckley back in training today! More attacking options for Friday!, Uta mark by the sea
  • Score: -11

8:49am Mon 14 Apr 14

Max Ripple says...

Norfolk and way wrote:
This is tantamount to cheating having to resort to messing around with the pitch and dodgy offsides, sounds a bit underhand. What's next putting banana skins under the oppositions feet? We should be playing fair if we're serious about the premier league. Not a popular with the supporters judging by all the empty seats either. Loads of us are off to palace next season, what they've done is worthy of a medal, we should take our hats off to them they are a fantastic club, amazing supporters, playing great attacking football, Albion just don't cut it and now we're trying to get in the play offs by cheating.
I don't generally like replying to trolls on this site but I am going to in this instance as....
Surely any club will prepare a surface that suits their own style of play? If you a,re a big side with big front men and not a lot of ball players you will prepare a pitch that doesn't help good fluent passing (which might help the opposition) but one that just suits the long high ball game..
In cricket a team with good spinners will prepare a strip that will more easily take spin. A team with seamers will prepare one that is maybe a bit green and bowlers will get sideways movement off the surface.
You may not like the Albion mate, but they are not cheating just making the best of their home ground. Which by the way, is better than Palaces all round.
[quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: This is tantamount to cheating having to resort to messing around with the pitch and dodgy offsides, sounds a bit underhand. What's next putting banana skins under the oppositions feet? We should be playing fair if we're serious about the premier league. Not a popular with the supporters judging by all the empty seats either. Loads of us are off to palace next season, what they've done is worthy of a medal, we should take our hats off to them they are a fantastic club, amazing supporters, playing great attacking football, Albion just don't cut it and now we're trying to get in the play offs by cheating.[/p][/quote]I don't generally like replying to trolls on this site but I am going to in this instance as.... Surely any club will prepare a surface that suits their own style of play? If you a,re a big side with big front men and not a lot of ball players you will prepare a pitch that doesn't help good fluent passing (which might help the opposition) but one that just suits the long high ball game.. In cricket a team with good spinners will prepare a strip that will more easily take spin. A team with seamers will prepare one that is maybe a bit green and bowlers will get sideways movement off the surface. You may not like the Albion mate, but they are not cheating just making the best of their home ground. Which by the way, is better than Palaces all round. Max Ripple
  • Score: 20

9:07am Mon 14 Apr 14

Norfolk and way says...

Max Ripple wrote:
Norfolk and way wrote:
This is tantamount to cheating having to resort to messing around with the pitch and dodgy offsides, sounds a bit underhand. What's next putting banana skins under the oppositions feet? We should be playing fair if we're serious about the premier league. Not a popular with the supporters judging by all the empty seats either. Loads of us are off to palace next season, what they've done is worthy of a medal, we should take our hats off to them they are a fantastic club, amazing supporters, playing great attacking football, Albion just don't cut it and now we're trying to get in the play offs by cheating.
I don't generally like replying to trolls on this site but I am going to in this instance as....
Surely any club will prepare a surface that suits their own style of play? If you a,re a big side with big front men and not a lot of ball players you will prepare a pitch that doesn't help good fluent passing (which might help the opposition) but one that just suits the long high ball game..
In cricket a team with good spinners will prepare a strip that will more easily take spin. A team with seamers will prepare one that is maybe a bit green and bowlers will get sideways movement off the surface.
You may not like the Albion mate, but they are not cheating just making the best of their home ground. Which by the way, is better than Palaces all round.
Wrong, the Amex has no atmosphere it's like a Saturday afternoon trip to an out of town retail park. Have a look at palaces supporters all jumping up and down en mass, it creates an intimidating, electric atmosphere we can only dream of at Albion. It's a party atmosphere and many of us crave it, a proper ground for a proper club with proper supporters. No wonder they are contenders for team of the season now. There is passion and energy running through that club, we have much to learn.
[quote][p][bold]Max Ripple[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: This is tantamount to cheating having to resort to messing around with the pitch and dodgy offsides, sounds a bit underhand. What's next putting banana skins under the oppositions feet? We should be playing fair if we're serious about the premier league. Not a popular with the supporters judging by all the empty seats either. Loads of us are off to palace next season, what they've done is worthy of a medal, we should take our hats off to them they are a fantastic club, amazing supporters, playing great attacking football, Albion just don't cut it and now we're trying to get in the play offs by cheating.[/p][/quote]I don't generally like replying to trolls on this site but I am going to in this instance as.... Surely any club will prepare a surface that suits their own style of play? If you a,re a big side with big front men and not a lot of ball players you will prepare a pitch that doesn't help good fluent passing (which might help the opposition) but one that just suits the long high ball game.. In cricket a team with good spinners will prepare a strip that will more easily take spin. A team with seamers will prepare one that is maybe a bit green and bowlers will get sideways movement off the surface. You may not like the Albion mate, but they are not cheating just making the best of their home ground. Which by the way, is better than Palaces all round.[/p][/quote]Wrong, the Amex has no atmosphere it's like a Saturday afternoon trip to an out of town retail park. Have a look at palaces supporters all jumping up and down en mass, it creates an intimidating, electric atmosphere we can only dream of at Albion. It's a party atmosphere and many of us crave it, a proper ground for a proper club with proper supporters. No wonder they are contenders for team of the season now. There is passion and energy running through that club, we have much to learn. Norfolk and way
  • Score: -46

9:15am Mon 14 Apr 14

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

I can just imagine the ask from Nathan to the groundsman.

Man, We need some really good grass for the weekend, can you help us score..?
I can just imagine the ask from Nathan to the groundsman. Man, We need some really good grass for the weekend, can you help us score..? Willie, Willie Irvine
  • Score: 29

10:01am Mon 14 Apr 14

The Phantom says...

mark by the sea wrote:
elljam wrote:
Nice of Jones to finally admit that the tempo has been too slow in previous games.
Yes and claiming it's down to the pitch is a laugh!
Someone has either told OG to be more positive , or the penny has dropped,
With crofts back next season, I have to wonder where ince will get a game?
He can't play in a conventional centre two with Stephens, he lacks creativity, mobility .. I can see him covering as a central defender next season, maybe along side upson? But it's fair to say the fane are finally getting real football after safety first for 40 games..
I would imagine cms can't wait for next season , and finally play as a two with ulloa, then we will see him play to his strengths ...
FIANL word on Hoskins , if he can't make the 18 when we had Buckley not fit, will he get a contract?
Buckley back in training today! More attacking options for Friday!,
Uta
What a ludicrous comment re Ince - of course he can play in a midfield two with Stephens. Agreed he lacks creativity but there is still a role for a destructive, driving role in the centre of midfield, especially if there are a number of creative, game changers elsewhere in the side. Ince has been outstanding in many games this season and have no idea why you should suddenly want to diss him in this way. He is one of the best things that has come out of the season.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elljam[/bold] wrote: Nice of Jones to finally admit that the tempo has been too slow in previous games.[/p][/quote]Yes and claiming it's down to the pitch is a laugh! Someone has either told OG to be more positive , or the penny has dropped, With crofts back next season, I have to wonder where ince will get a game? He can't play in a conventional centre two with Stephens, he lacks creativity, mobility .. I can see him covering as a central defender next season, maybe along side upson? But it's fair to say the fane are finally getting real football after safety first for 40 games.. I would imagine cms can't wait for next season , and finally play as a two with ulloa, then we will see him play to his strengths ... FIANL word on Hoskins , if he can't make the 18 when we had Buckley not fit, will he get a contract? Buckley back in training today! More attacking options for Friday!, Uta[/p][/quote]What a ludicrous comment re Ince - of course he can play in a midfield two with Stephens. Agreed he lacks creativity but there is still a role for a destructive, driving role in the centre of midfield, especially if there are a number of creative, game changers elsewhere in the side. Ince has been outstanding in many games this season and have no idea why you should suddenly want to diss him in this way. He is one of the best things that has come out of the season. The Phantom
  • Score: 19

10:03am Mon 14 Apr 14

Steveg1958 says...

Another "non story", nice of Oscar to comment on the match, I'd like to hear from the organ grinder not the monkey, ! or are we already ?????
Another "non story", nice of Oscar to comment on the match, I'd like to hear from the organ grinder not the monkey, ! or are we already ????? Steveg1958
  • Score: -19

10:38am Mon 14 Apr 14

Oscar's Chin says...

Oh goodie. We have another Palace troll. Can we keep it, Mum?
Oh goodie. We have another Palace troll. Can we keep it, Mum? Oscar's Chin
  • Score: 9

10:51am Mon 14 Apr 14

B rian Tawses left foot says...

I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up
I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up B rian Tawses left foot
  • Score: 33

11:17am Mon 14 Apr 14

Claude Back says...

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up
Not really much of a thinker, are you, Brian?
Don't seem to see beyond what is not directly in front of you.?
[quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up[/p][/quote]Not really much of a thinker, are you, Brian? Don't seem to see beyond what is not directly in front of you.? Claude Back
  • Score: -15

11:36am Mon 14 Apr 14

B rian Tawses left foot says...

Claude Back says...


B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up
Not really much of a thinker, are you, Brian?
Don't seem to see beyond what is not directly in front of you.?

Seeing what is in front of you is what is known as 'perception' - over laying with 'thought' leads to obfuscation and the sort of negative nonsense we see posted here everyday. Tell me Claude - where do you think the club should be?
Claude Back says... B rian Tawses left foot wrote: I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up Not really much of a thinker, are you, Brian? Don't seem to see beyond what is not directly in front of you.? Seeing what is in front of you is what is known as 'perception' - over laying with 'thought' leads to obfuscation and the sort of negative nonsense we see posted here everyday. Tell me Claude - where do you think the club should be? B rian Tawses left foot
  • Score: 14

12:08pm Mon 14 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up
Really , such a great coach? Played ulloa up front with negative tactics for 40 odd games, when everyone could see ulloa was not happy .. We go with lingard alongside and create goal scoring opportunities.. Not shots from 30 yards, but one on ones .. Ulloa has scored two in two, I can't remember him having more than one up to then this season. Hardly a great mind when 20,000 have wanted it for best part of two years.
[quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up[/p][/quote]Really , such a great coach? Played ulloa up front with negative tactics for 40 odd games, when everyone could see ulloa was not happy .. We go with lingard alongside and create goal scoring opportunities.. Not shots from 30 yards, but one on ones .. Ulloa has scored two in two, I can't remember him having more than one up to then this season. Hardly a great mind when 20,000 have wanted it for best part of two years. mark by the sea
  • Score: -19

12:36pm Mon 14 Apr 14

str8outtaDC says...

mark by the sea wrote:
B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up
Really , such a great coach? Played ulloa up front with negative tactics for 40 odd games, when everyone could see ulloa was not happy .. We go with lingard alongside and create goal scoring opportunities.. Not shots from 30 yards, but one on ones .. Ulloa has scored two in two, I can't remember him having more than one up to then this season. Hardly a great mind when 20,000 have wanted it for best part of two years.
Totally agree Brian. How have we stayed in touch all season with a massively depleted squad if not for good coaching? How have we brought young players like Ince and March into the squad if it wasn't for the person responsible doing the same at Barcelona?

Our so-called negativity has given us one of the best defensive records in the leagues. And have you ever considered that Oscar might have needed to do that as we had no (decent) fit strikers?

MBTS and others are always moaning -about Barber, parking, ticket prices etc etc etc - and Mark, earlier in the season wasn;t it the queues for the pies?

Now they want to claim credit for our actual tactics?

Thank god most fans back the experts, especially when they are doing well.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up[/p][/quote]Really , such a great coach? Played ulloa up front with negative tactics for 40 odd games, when everyone could see ulloa was not happy .. We go with lingard alongside and create goal scoring opportunities.. Not shots from 30 yards, but one on ones .. Ulloa has scored two in two, I can't remember him having more than one up to then this season. Hardly a great mind when 20,000 have wanted it for best part of two years.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Brian. How have we stayed in touch all season with a massively depleted squad if not for good coaching? How have we brought young players like Ince and March into the squad if it wasn't for the person responsible doing the same at Barcelona? Our so-called negativity has given us one of the best defensive records in the leagues. And have you ever considered that Oscar might have needed to do that as we had no (decent) fit strikers? MBTS and others are always moaning -about Barber, parking, ticket prices etc etc etc - and Mark, earlier in the season wasn;t it the queues for the pies? Now they want to claim credit for our actual tactics? Thank god most fans back the experts, especially when they are doing well. str8outtaDC
  • Score: 18

1:20pm Mon 14 Apr 14

tug509 says...

str8outtaDC wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up
Really , such a great coach? Played ulloa up front with negative tactics for 40 odd games, when everyone could see ulloa was not happy .. We go with lingard alongside and create goal scoring opportunities.. Not shots from 30 yards, but one on ones .. Ulloa has scored two in two, I can't remember him having more than one up to then this season. Hardly a great mind when 20,000 have wanted it for best part of two years.
Totally agree Brian. How have we stayed in touch all season with a massively depleted squad if not for good coaching? How have we brought young players like Ince and March into the squad if it wasn't for the person responsible doing the same at Barcelona?

Our so-called negativity has given us one of the best defensive records in the leagues. And have you ever considered that Oscar might have needed to do that as we had no (decent) fit strikers?

MBTS and others are always moaning -about Barber, parking, ticket prices etc etc etc - and Mark, earlier in the season wasn;t it the queues for the pies?

Now they want to claim credit for our actual tactics?

Thank god most fans back the experts, especially when they are doing well.
If you asked the 28,000 at the game on Saturday ,do you want to go back to playing the way we did in the 5 games before Leicester ,winning none and scoring 3 ,or stick with the new more attacking set up ,winning both ,so far and scoring 7 ,how do you think the vote would go ??? ,how would you vote ? ,i would be very interested .
[quote][p][bold]str8outtaDC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up[/p][/quote]Really , such a great coach? Played ulloa up front with negative tactics for 40 odd games, when everyone could see ulloa was not happy .. We go with lingard alongside and create goal scoring opportunities.. Not shots from 30 yards, but one on ones .. Ulloa has scored two in two, I can't remember him having more than one up to then this season. Hardly a great mind when 20,000 have wanted it for best part of two years.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Brian. How have we stayed in touch all season with a massively depleted squad if not for good coaching? How have we brought young players like Ince and March into the squad if it wasn't for the person responsible doing the same at Barcelona? Our so-called negativity has given us one of the best defensive records in the leagues. And have you ever considered that Oscar might have needed to do that as we had no (decent) fit strikers? MBTS and others are always moaning -about Barber, parking, ticket prices etc etc etc - and Mark, earlier in the season wasn;t it the queues for the pies? Now they want to claim credit for our actual tactics? Thank god most fans back the experts, especially when they are doing well.[/p][/quote]If you asked the 28,000 at the game on Saturday ,do you want to go back to playing the way we did in the 5 games before Leicester ,winning none and scoring 3 ,or stick with the new more attacking set up ,winning both ,so far and scoring 7 ,how do you think the vote would go ??? ,how would you vote ? ,i would be very interested . tug509
  • Score: 2

1:21pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Uckfield Seagull says...

To be honest, the pitch quote is something I am not surprised that it has come from Jones, as first thread poses, why has it taken so long, poor poor statement, I think its just a case of Oscar realising we have been far to slow in our build up play, relented, has played 2 out and out pacey midfielders, 2 up front and we look a different team, at last
To be honest, the pitch quote is something I am not surprised that it has come from Jones, as first thread poses, why has it taken so long, poor poor statement, I think its just a case of Oscar realising we have been far to slow in our build up play, relented, has played 2 out and out pacey midfielders, 2 up front and we look a different team, at last Uckfield Seagull
  • Score: 4

1:25pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Andrea Orlandigasm says...

The photo reminds me of the very silly rule that players get booked for taking their shirt off after scoring. Hot players (Andrea, JFC, Solly etc) should be encouraged to show us their bodies and not be penalised for doing so. If they are going to get booked for taking their shirt off, they should at least make sure they do show us some flesh, not just another garment under their match shirt. Yes that's you, Jake! Nice goal though and could be significant if it comes down to goal difference.
The photo reminds me of the very silly rule that players get booked for taking their shirt off after scoring. Hot players (Andrea, JFC, Solly etc) should be encouraged to show us their bodies and not be penalised for doing so. If they are going to get booked for taking their shirt off, they should at least make sure they do show us some flesh, not just another garment under their match shirt. Yes that's you, Jake! Nice goal though and could be significant if it comes down to goal difference. Andrea Orlandigasm
  • Score: 1

1:34pm Mon 14 Apr 14

KeefyH69 says...

Norfolk and way wrote:
This is tantamount to cheating having to resort to messing around with the pitch and dodgy offsides, sounds a bit underhand. What's next putting banana skins under the oppositions feet? We should be playing fair if we're serious about the premier league. Not a popular with the supporters judging by all the empty seats either. Loads of us are off to palace next season, what they've done is worthy of a medal, we should take our hats off to them they are a fantastic club, amazing supporters, playing great attacking football, Albion just don't cut it and now we're trying to get in the play offs by cheating.
Play fair? Did you SEE Skirtl against Man City??? Have you ever watched cricket? Don't you think THEIR groundsmen do the same? What about the pitch at Barnsley where we could only manage a carelessness. That pitch was designed to stop us playing our passing game.
[quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: This is tantamount to cheating having to resort to messing around with the pitch and dodgy offsides, sounds a bit underhand. What's next putting banana skins under the oppositions feet? We should be playing fair if we're serious about the premier league. Not a popular with the supporters judging by all the empty seats either. Loads of us are off to palace next season, what they've done is worthy of a medal, we should take our hats off to them they are a fantastic club, amazing supporters, playing great attacking football, Albion just don't cut it and now we're trying to get in the play offs by cheating.[/p][/quote]Play fair? Did you SEE Skirtl against Man City??? Have you ever watched cricket? Don't you think THEIR groundsmen do the same? What about the pitch at Barnsley where we could only manage a carelessness. That pitch was designed to stop us playing our passing game. KeefyH69
  • Score: 8

1:36pm Mon 14 Apr 14

tug509 says...

tug509 wrote:
str8outtaDC wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up
Really , such a great coach? Played ulloa up front with negative tactics for 40 odd games, when everyone could see ulloa was not happy .. We go with lingard alongside and create goal scoring opportunities.. Not shots from 30 yards, but one on ones .. Ulloa has scored two in two, I can't remember him having more than one up to then this season. Hardly a great mind when 20,000 have wanted it for best part of two years.
Totally agree Brian. How have we stayed in touch all season with a massively depleted squad if not for good coaching? How have we brought young players like Ince and March into the squad if it wasn't for the person responsible doing the same at Barcelona?

Our so-called negativity has given us one of the best defensive records in the leagues. And have you ever considered that Oscar might have needed to do that as we had no (decent) fit strikers?

MBTS and others are always moaning -about Barber, parking, ticket prices etc etc etc - and Mark, earlier in the season wasn;t it the queues for the pies?

Now they want to claim credit for our actual tactics?

Thank god most fans back the experts, especially when they are doing well.
If you asked the 28,000 at the game on Saturday ,do you want to go back to playing the way we did in the 5 games before Leicester ,winning none and scoring 3 ,or stick with the new more attacking set up ,winning both ,so far and scoring 7 ,how do you think the vote would go ??? ,how would you vote ? ,i would be very interested .
What no answer ? ,just a negative response from someone who is hiding behind a key pad !. so i take it the question was too difficult .
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]str8outtaDC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up[/p][/quote]Really , such a great coach? Played ulloa up front with negative tactics for 40 odd games, when everyone could see ulloa was not happy .. We go with lingard alongside and create goal scoring opportunities.. Not shots from 30 yards, but one on ones .. Ulloa has scored two in two, I can't remember him having more than one up to then this season. Hardly a great mind when 20,000 have wanted it for best part of two years.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Brian. How have we stayed in touch all season with a massively depleted squad if not for good coaching? How have we brought young players like Ince and March into the squad if it wasn't for the person responsible doing the same at Barcelona? Our so-called negativity has given us one of the best defensive records in the leagues. And have you ever considered that Oscar might have needed to do that as we had no (decent) fit strikers? MBTS and others are always moaning -about Barber, parking, ticket prices etc etc etc - and Mark, earlier in the season wasn;t it the queues for the pies? Now they want to claim credit for our actual tactics? Thank god most fans back the experts, especially when they are doing well.[/p][/quote]If you asked the 28,000 at the game on Saturday ,do you want to go back to playing the way we did in the 5 games before Leicester ,winning none and scoring 3 ,or stick with the new more attacking set up ,winning both ,so far and scoring 7 ,how do you think the vote would go ??? ,how would you vote ? ,i would be very interested .[/p][/quote]What no answer ? ,just a negative response from someone who is hiding behind a key pad !. so i take it the question was too difficult . tug509
  • Score: -6

1:47pm Mon 14 Apr 14

tug509 says...

KeefyH69 wrote:
Norfolk and way wrote:
This is tantamount to cheating having to resort to messing around with the pitch and dodgy offsides, sounds a bit underhand. What's next putting banana skins under the oppositions feet? We should be playing fair if we're serious about the premier league. Not a popular with the supporters judging by all the empty seats either. Loads of us are off to palace next season, what they've done is worthy of a medal, we should take our hats off to them they are a fantastic club, amazing supporters, playing great attacking football, Albion just don't cut it and now we're trying to get in the play offs by cheating.
Play fair? Did you SEE Skirtl against Man City??? Have you ever watched cricket? Don't you think THEIR groundsmen do the same? What about the pitch at Barnsley where we could only manage a carelessness. That pitch was designed to stop us playing our passing game.
Cambridge Utd under John Beck were well known for leaving the grass long in the corners ,to hold up long balls to hinder the opposition .
[quote][p][bold]KeefyH69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: This is tantamount to cheating having to resort to messing around with the pitch and dodgy offsides, sounds a bit underhand. What's next putting banana skins under the oppositions feet? We should be playing fair if we're serious about the premier league. Not a popular with the supporters judging by all the empty seats either. Loads of us are off to palace next season, what they've done is worthy of a medal, we should take our hats off to them they are a fantastic club, amazing supporters, playing great attacking football, Albion just don't cut it and now we're trying to get in the play offs by cheating.[/p][/quote]Play fair? Did you SEE Skirtl against Man City??? Have you ever watched cricket? Don't you think THEIR groundsmen do the same? What about the pitch at Barnsley where we could only manage a carelessness. That pitch was designed to stop us playing our passing game.[/p][/quote]Cambridge Utd under John Beck were well known for leaving the grass long in the corners ,to hold up long balls to hinder the opposition . tug509
  • Score: 3

1:48pm Mon 14 Apr 14

KeefyH69 says...

KeefyH69 wrote:
Norfolk and way wrote:
This is tantamount to cheating having to resort to messing around with the pitch and dodgy offsides, sounds a bit underhand. What's next putting banana skins under the oppositions feet? We should be playing fair if we're serious about the premier league. Not a popular with the supporters judging by all the empty seats either. Loads of us are off to palace next season, what they've done is worthy of a medal, we should take our hats off to them they are a fantastic club, amazing supporters, playing great attacking football, Albion just don't cut it and now we're trying to get in the play offs by cheating.
Play fair? Did you SEE Skirtl against Man City??? Have you ever watched cricket? Don't you think THEIR groundsmen do the same? What about the pitch at Barnsley where we could only manage a carelessness. That pitch was designed to stop us playing our passing game.
No idea where carelessness came from-supposed to read, "a scoreless draw"!
[quote][p][bold]KeefyH69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: This is tantamount to cheating having to resort to messing around with the pitch and dodgy offsides, sounds a bit underhand. What's next putting banana skins under the oppositions feet? We should be playing fair if we're serious about the premier league. Not a popular with the supporters judging by all the empty seats either. Loads of us are off to palace next season, what they've done is worthy of a medal, we should take our hats off to them they are a fantastic club, amazing supporters, playing great attacking football, Albion just don't cut it and now we're trying to get in the play offs by cheating.[/p][/quote]Play fair? Did you SEE Skirtl against Man City??? Have you ever watched cricket? Don't you think THEIR groundsmen do the same? What about the pitch at Barnsley where we could only manage a carelessness. That pitch was designed to stop us playing our passing game.[/p][/quote]No idea where carelessness came from-supposed to read, "a scoreless draw"! KeefyH69
  • Score: 3

1:50pm Mon 14 Apr 14

str8outtaDC says...

tug509 wrote:
tug509 wrote:
str8outtaDC wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up
Really , such a great coach? Played ulloa up front with negative tactics for 40 odd games, when everyone could see ulloa was not happy .. We go with lingard alongside and create goal scoring opportunities.. Not shots from 30 yards, but one on ones .. Ulloa has scored two in two, I can't remember him having more than one up to then this season. Hardly a great mind when 20,000 have wanted it for best part of two years.
Totally agree Brian. How have we stayed in touch all season with a massively depleted squad if not for good coaching? How have we brought young players like Ince and March into the squad if it wasn't for the person responsible doing the same at Barcelona?

Our so-called negativity has given us one of the best defensive records in the leagues. And have you ever considered that Oscar might have needed to do that as we had no (decent) fit strikers?

MBTS and others are always moaning -about Barber, parking, ticket prices etc etc etc - and Mark, earlier in the season wasn;t it the queues for the pies?

Now they want to claim credit for our actual tactics?

Thank god most fans back the experts, especially when they are doing well.
If you asked the 28,000 at the game on Saturday ,do you want to go back to playing the way we did in the 5 games before Leicester ,winning none and scoring 3 ,or stick with the new more attacking set up ,winning both ,so far and scoring 7 ,how do you think the vote would go ??? ,how would you vote ? ,i would be very interested .
What no answer ? ,just a negative response from someone who is hiding behind a key pad !. so i take it the question was too difficult .
Not checking every minute, mate. Obviously i'm not happy when we're losing but i'm also happy with wins at home to Leicester and QPR and away to Bolton and Boro for example, all good results throughout the season.

I also understand, that, like all clubs. we'll go through a bad patch now and again and not call for a manager to go every time we lose 3 games in a row.

Nothing's perfect but I'm happy with the stadium, ownership and management of the club at the moment and we're doing well - how many fans of other clubs can say the same?

(how's that for positivity?)
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]str8outtaDC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up[/p][/quote]Really , such a great coach? Played ulloa up front with negative tactics for 40 odd games, when everyone could see ulloa was not happy .. We go with lingard alongside and create goal scoring opportunities.. Not shots from 30 yards, but one on ones .. Ulloa has scored two in two, I can't remember him having more than one up to then this season. Hardly a great mind when 20,000 have wanted it for best part of two years.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Brian. How have we stayed in touch all season with a massively depleted squad if not for good coaching? How have we brought young players like Ince and March into the squad if it wasn't for the person responsible doing the same at Barcelona? Our so-called negativity has given us one of the best defensive records in the leagues. And have you ever considered that Oscar might have needed to do that as we had no (decent) fit strikers? MBTS and others are always moaning -about Barber, parking, ticket prices etc etc etc - and Mark, earlier in the season wasn;t it the queues for the pies? Now they want to claim credit for our actual tactics? Thank god most fans back the experts, especially when they are doing well.[/p][/quote]If you asked the 28,000 at the game on Saturday ,do you want to go back to playing the way we did in the 5 games before Leicester ,winning none and scoring 3 ,or stick with the new more attacking set up ,winning both ,so far and scoring 7 ,how do you think the vote would go ??? ,how would you vote ? ,i would be very interested .[/p][/quote]What no answer ? ,just a negative response from someone who is hiding behind a key pad !. so i take it the question was too difficult .[/p][/quote]Not checking every minute, mate. Obviously i'm not happy when we're losing but i'm also happy with wins at home to Leicester and QPR and away to Bolton and Boro for example, all good results throughout the season. I also understand, that, like all clubs. we'll go through a bad patch now and again and not call for a manager to go every time we lose 3 games in a row. Nothing's perfect but I'm happy with the stadium, ownership and management of the club at the moment and we're doing well - how many fans of other clubs can say the same? (how's that for positivity?) str8outtaDC
  • Score: 15

1:51pm Mon 14 Apr 14

B rian Tawses left foot says...

tug509 says...


tug509 wrote:

str8outtaDC wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up
Really , such a great coach? Played ulloa up front with negative tactics for 40 odd games, when everyone could see ulloa was not happy .. We go with lingard alongside and create goal scoring opportunities.. Not shots from 30 yards, but one on ones .. Ulloa has scored two in two, I can't remember him having more than one up to then this season. Hardly a great mind when 20,000 have wanted it for best part of two years.Totally agree Brian. How have we stayed in touch all season with a massively depleted squad if not for good coaching? How have we brought young players like Ince and March into the squad if it wasn't for the person responsible doing the same at Barcelona?

Our so-called negativity has given us one of the best defensive records in the leagues. And have you ever considered that Oscar might have needed to do that as we had no (decent) fit strikers?

MBTS and others are always moaning -about Barber, parking, ticket prices etc etc etc - and Mark, earlier in the season wasn;t it the queues for the pies?

Now they want to claim credit for our actual tactics?

Thank god most fans back the experts, especially when they are doing well.If you asked the 28,000 at the game on Saturday ,do you want to go back to playing the way we did in the 5 games before Leicester ,winning none and scoring 3 ,or stick with the new more attacking set up ,winning both ,so far and scoring 7 ,how do you think the vote would go ??? ,how would you vote ? ,i would be very interested .What no answer ? ,just a negative response from someone who is hiding behind a key pad !. so i take it the question was too difficult .

Strange question Tug. Of course supporters - me included - would love albion to win 10-0 every game. Meanwhile, back in the real world, our head coach has to deal with players who are injured, players who have lost form, players who don't perform as expected in training, players who make mistakes because they are young and inexperienced. To assume that you can employ the same attacking tactics and formation for every game is naïve in the extreme. Sometimes you just have to batten own the hatches and grind out a result - Millwall, Barnsley. On other occasions you met a footballing side -Leicester - and you are able to play open attractive football. The truest thing Gustavo ever said was - 'Ees complicated.'
tug509 says... tug509 wrote: str8outtaDC wrote: mark by the sea wrote: B rian Tawses left foot wrote: I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up Really , such a great coach? Played ulloa up front with negative tactics for 40 odd games, when everyone could see ulloa was not happy .. We go with lingard alongside and create goal scoring opportunities.. Not shots from 30 yards, but one on ones .. Ulloa has scored two in two, I can't remember him having more than one up to then this season. Hardly a great mind when 20,000 have wanted it for best part of two years.Totally agree Brian. How have we stayed in touch all season with a massively depleted squad if not for good coaching? How have we brought young players like Ince and March into the squad if it wasn't for the person responsible doing the same at Barcelona? Our so-called negativity has given us one of the best defensive records in the leagues. And have you ever considered that Oscar might have needed to do that as we had no (decent) fit strikers? MBTS and others are always moaning -about Barber, parking, ticket prices etc etc etc - and Mark, earlier in the season wasn;t it the queues for the pies? Now they want to claim credit for our actual tactics? Thank god most fans back the experts, especially when they are doing well.If you asked the 28,000 at the game on Saturday ,do you want to go back to playing the way we did in the 5 games before Leicester ,winning none and scoring 3 ,or stick with the new more attacking set up ,winning both ,so far and scoring 7 ,how do you think the vote would go ??? ,how would you vote ? ,i would be very interested .What no answer ? ,just a negative response from someone who is hiding behind a key pad !. so i take it the question was too difficult . Strange question Tug. Of course supporters - me included - would love albion to win 10-0 every game. Meanwhile, back in the real world, our head coach has to deal with players who are injured, players who have lost form, players who don't perform as expected in training, players who make mistakes because they are young and inexperienced. To assume that you can employ the same attacking tactics and formation for every game is naïve in the extreme. Sometimes you just have to batten own the hatches and grind out a result - Millwall, Barnsley. On other occasions you met a footballing side -Leicester - and you are able to play open attractive football. The truest thing Gustavo ever said was - 'Ees complicated.' B rian Tawses left foot
  • Score: 12

2:22pm Mon 14 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up
Really , such a great coach? Played ulloa up front with negative tactics for 40 odd games, when everyone could see ulloa was not happy .. We go with lingard alongside and create goal scoring opportunities.. Not shots from 30 yards, but one on ones .. Ulloa has scored two in two, I can't remember him having more than one up to then this season. Hardly a great mind when 20,000 have wanted it for best part of two years.
So Lingard wasn't with us for the previous matches, so any comments about tactics prior to Lingard arriving and giving us options the he does, are a waste of time.
What is the point of slagging off Oscar at a time when we are doing so well. Is it impossible for some of you to wake up happy about our situation, is it so hard to just enjoy the moment or are your days empty without ranting on for an hour or two.
Ok so Oscar could have done things differently earlier, so what, we have it right today and that's what counts. Just ignore all the injuries Oscar has had to work around, forget all the work he has done to put us in a position where we can make changes for the better. Oscar might have come to the party late, but all his prep work over the season has kept us in contact with the top six, if it wasn't for all he has done the changes we now see would have been for nothing.

There is just no pleasing some people.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up[/p][/quote]Really , such a great coach? Played ulloa up front with negative tactics for 40 odd games, when everyone could see ulloa was not happy .. We go with lingard alongside and create goal scoring opportunities.. Not shots from 30 yards, but one on ones .. Ulloa has scored two in two, I can't remember him having more than one up to then this season. Hardly a great mind when 20,000 have wanted it for best part of two years.[/p][/quote]So Lingard wasn't with us for the previous matches, so any comments about tactics prior to Lingard arriving and giving us options the he does, are a waste of time. What is the point of slagging off Oscar at a time when we are doing so well. Is it impossible for some of you to wake up happy about our situation, is it so hard to just enjoy the moment or are your days empty without ranting on for an hour or two. Ok so Oscar could have done things differently earlier, so what, we have it right today and that's what counts. Just ignore all the injuries Oscar has had to work around, forget all the work he has done to put us in a position where we can make changes for the better. Oscar might have come to the party late, but all his prep work over the season has kept us in contact with the top six, if it wasn't for all he has done the changes we now see would have been for nothing. There is just no pleasing some people. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 13

2:42pm Mon 14 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

tug509 wrote:
tug509 wrote:
str8outtaDC wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up
Really , such a great coach? Played ulloa up front with negative tactics for 40 odd games, when everyone could see ulloa was not happy .. We go with lingard alongside and create goal scoring opportunities.. Not shots from 30 yards, but one on ones .. Ulloa has scored two in two, I can't remember him having more than one up to then this season. Hardly a great mind when 20,000 have wanted it for best part of two years.
Totally agree Brian. How have we stayed in touch all season with a massively depleted squad if not for good coaching? How have we brought young players like Ince and March into the squad if it wasn't for the person responsible doing the same at Barcelona?

Our so-called negativity has given us one of the best defensive records in the leagues. And have you ever considered that Oscar might have needed to do that as we had no (decent) fit strikers?

MBTS and others are always moaning -about Barber, parking, ticket prices etc etc etc - and Mark, earlier in the season wasn;t it the queues for the pies?

Now they want to claim credit for our actual tactics?

Thank god most fans back the experts, especially when they are doing well.
If you asked the 28,000 at the game on Saturday ,do you want to go back to playing the way we did in the 5 games before Leicester ,winning none and scoring 3 ,or stick with the new more attacking set up ,winning both ,so far and scoring 7 ,how do you think the vote would go ??? ,how would you vote ? ,i would be very interested .
What no answer ? ,just a negative response from someone who is hiding behind a key pad !. so i take it the question was too difficult .
Sorry the change is something fans have wanted for two years, last season we huffed and puffed with Barnes coming off the left wing to join ulloa.. This season it's been bloody awful entertainment , we have changed our formation to 442 and that's what 90% have been calling for all season! Also to start lua lua and have a real go, not play tip tap with ince and Greer in a 3 metre square .. Playing yo yo with the ball, we are now playing with pace , Andrews and Stephens look so much better players, Stephens was pure class at Leicester , Andrews looks a decent player we should be offering a year deal to, in the old 3 central midfielders of ince crofts Stephens Andrews jfc we have huffed and puffed with nothing but long range shots because the side are stagnating...
Watch good teams play , they create and get 4-5 in the box for crosses .. We struggled to get ulloa in there until now, lingard is now playing in his best role, scoring and picking the ball up in the hole and creating 10 yard passes to lua or ulloa..
None of these changes are mysterious wonders! But simply a change of system long over due.
As for OG not having another forward ! I totally agree , absolute poor by the club, let's hope we don't lose ulloa in next game or two, or we will be out of the play off chance.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]str8outtaDC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up[/p][/quote]Really , such a great coach? Played ulloa up front with negative tactics for 40 odd games, when everyone could see ulloa was not happy .. We go with lingard alongside and create goal scoring opportunities.. Not shots from 30 yards, but one on ones .. Ulloa has scored two in two, I can't remember him having more than one up to then this season. Hardly a great mind when 20,000 have wanted it for best part of two years.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Brian. How have we stayed in touch all season with a massively depleted squad if not for good coaching? How have we brought young players like Ince and March into the squad if it wasn't for the person responsible doing the same at Barcelona? Our so-called negativity has given us one of the best defensive records in the leagues. And have you ever considered that Oscar might have needed to do that as we had no (decent) fit strikers? MBTS and others are always moaning -about Barber, parking, ticket prices etc etc etc - and Mark, earlier in the season wasn;t it the queues for the pies? Now they want to claim credit for our actual tactics? Thank god most fans back the experts, especially when they are doing well.[/p][/quote]If you asked the 28,000 at the game on Saturday ,do you want to go back to playing the way we did in the 5 games before Leicester ,winning none and scoring 3 ,or stick with the new more attacking set up ,winning both ,so far and scoring 7 ,how do you think the vote would go ??? ,how would you vote ? ,i would be very interested .[/p][/quote]What no answer ? ,just a negative response from someone who is hiding behind a key pad !. so i take it the question was too difficult .[/p][/quote]Sorry the change is something fans have wanted for two years, last season we huffed and puffed with Barnes coming off the left wing to join ulloa.. This season it's been bloody awful entertainment , we have changed our formation to 442 and that's what 90% have been calling for all season! Also to start lua lua and have a real go, not play tip tap with ince and Greer in a 3 metre square .. Playing yo yo with the ball, we are now playing with pace , Andrews and Stephens look so much better players, Stephens was pure class at Leicester , Andrews looks a decent player we should be offering a year deal to, in the old 3 central midfielders of ince crofts Stephens Andrews jfc we have huffed and puffed with nothing but long range shots because the side are stagnating... Watch good teams play , they create and get 4-5 in the box for crosses .. We struggled to get ulloa in there until now, lingard is now playing in his best role, scoring and picking the ball up in the hole and creating 10 yard passes to lua or ulloa.. None of these changes are mysterious wonders! But simply a change of system long over due. As for OG not having another forward ! I totally agree , absolute poor by the club, let's hope we don't lose ulloa in next game or two, or we will be out of the play off chance. mark by the sea
  • Score: -6

2:49pm Mon 14 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
tug509 says...


tug509 wrote:

str8outtaDC wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up
Really , such a great coach? Played ulloa up front with negative tactics for 40 odd games, when everyone could see ulloa was not happy .. We go with lingard alongside and create goal scoring opportunities.. Not shots from 30 yards, but one on ones .. Ulloa has scored two in two, I can't remember him having more than one up to then this season. Hardly a great mind when 20,000 have wanted it for best part of two years.Totally agree Brian. How have we stayed in touch all season with a massively depleted squad if not for good coaching? How have we brought young players like Ince and March into the squad if it wasn't for the person responsible doing the same at Barcelona?

Our so-called negativity has given us one of the best defensive records in the leagues. And have you ever considered that Oscar might have needed to do that as we had no (decent) fit strikers?

MBTS and others are always moaning -about Barber, parking, ticket prices etc etc etc - and Mark, earlier in the season wasn;t it the queues for the pies?

Now they want to claim credit for our actual tactics?

Thank god most fans back the experts, especially when they are doing well.If you asked the 28,000 at the game on Saturday ,do you want to go back to playing the way we did in the 5 games before Leicester ,winning none and scoring 3 ,or stick with the new more attacking set up ,winning both ,so far and scoring 7 ,how do you think the vote would go ??? ,how would you vote ? ,i would be very interested .What no answer ? ,just a negative response from someone who is hiding behind a key pad !. so i take it the question was too difficult .

Strange question Tug. Of course supporters - me included - would love albion to win 10-0 every game. Meanwhile, back in the real world, our head coach has to deal with players who are injured, players who have lost form, players who don't perform as expected in training, players who make mistakes because they are young and inexperienced. To assume that you can employ the same attacking tactics and formation for every game is naïve in the extreme. Sometimes you just have to batten own the hatches and grind out a result - Millwall, Barnsley. On other occasions you met a footballing side -Leicester - and you are able to play open attractive football. The truest thing Gustavo ever said was - 'Ees complicated.'
We have struggled against the poorer sides because we have shown a fear of having ago.! Most sides now play pretty much the same home or away,
Look at our away record this season, fact is we scored a goal a game till we changed our set up,
Our home form has been appalling against poor sides , setting up with just ulloa against the bottom teams shows far to much respect to them, Saturday we could have scored 5 if we had kept the tempo going.
I gave up eating at the Amex due to queuing and the poor quality , I eat in the station at hove or go to lewes pre lunch and beer.
[quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: tug509 says... tug509 wrote: str8outtaDC wrote: mark by the sea wrote: B rian Tawses left foot wrote: I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up Really , such a great coach? Played ulloa up front with negative tactics for 40 odd games, when everyone could see ulloa was not happy .. We go with lingard alongside and create goal scoring opportunities.. Not shots from 30 yards, but one on ones .. Ulloa has scored two in two, I can't remember him having more than one up to then this season. Hardly a great mind when 20,000 have wanted it for best part of two years.Totally agree Brian. How have we stayed in touch all season with a massively depleted squad if not for good coaching? How have we brought young players like Ince and March into the squad if it wasn't for the person responsible doing the same at Barcelona? Our so-called negativity has given us one of the best defensive records in the leagues. And have you ever considered that Oscar might have needed to do that as we had no (decent) fit strikers? MBTS and others are always moaning -about Barber, parking, ticket prices etc etc etc - and Mark, earlier in the season wasn;t it the queues for the pies? Now they want to claim credit for our actual tactics? Thank god most fans back the experts, especially when they are doing well.If you asked the 28,000 at the game on Saturday ,do you want to go back to playing the way we did in the 5 games before Leicester ,winning none and scoring 3 ,or stick with the new more attacking set up ,winning both ,so far and scoring 7 ,how do you think the vote would go ??? ,how would you vote ? ,i would be very interested .What no answer ? ,just a negative response from someone who is hiding behind a key pad !. so i take it the question was too difficult . Strange question Tug. Of course supporters - me included - would love albion to win 10-0 every game. Meanwhile, back in the real world, our head coach has to deal with players who are injured, players who have lost form, players who don't perform as expected in training, players who make mistakes because they are young and inexperienced. To assume that you can employ the same attacking tactics and formation for every game is naïve in the extreme. Sometimes you just have to batten own the hatches and grind out a result - Millwall, Barnsley. On other occasions you met a footballing side -Leicester - and you are able to play open attractive football. The truest thing Gustavo ever said was - 'Ees complicated.'[/p][/quote]We have struggled against the poorer sides because we have shown a fear of having ago.! Most sides now play pretty much the same home or away, Look at our away record this season, fact is we scored a goal a game till we changed our set up, Our home form has been appalling against poor sides , setting up with just ulloa against the bottom teams shows far to much respect to them, Saturday we could have scored 5 if we had kept the tempo going. I gave up eating at the Amex due to queuing and the poor quality , I eat in the station at hove or go to lewes pre lunch and beer. mark by the sea
  • Score: -7

2:52pm Mon 14 Apr 14

russellsnr2 says...

KeefyH69 wrote:
KeefyH69 wrote:
Norfolk and way wrote:
This is tantamount to cheating having to resort to messing around with the pitch and dodgy offsides, sounds a bit underhand. What's next putting banana skins under the oppositions feet? We should be playing fair if we're serious about the premier league. Not a popular with the supporters judging by all the empty seats either. Loads of us are off to palace next season, what they've done is worthy of a medal, we should take our hats off to them they are a fantastic club, amazing supporters, playing great attacking football, Albion just don't cut it and now we're trying to get in the play offs by cheating.
Play fair? Did you SEE Skirtl against Man City??? Have you ever watched cricket? Don't you think THEIR groundsmen do the same? What about the pitch at Barnsley where we could only manage a carelessness. That pitch was designed to stop us playing our passing game.
No idea where carelessness came from-supposed to read, "a scoreless draw"!
From above quote:- "This is tantamount to cheating"
So what do they call it when you see ball boys passing a towel to the home team before a throw in is taken during wet weather?
This is one practice I would like to see stopped as when you have a player with that extra long throw to the box it can mean the difference between win or loose.
We have a 6 pointer being played tonight and we don't even have to kick a ball!!!
[quote][p][bold]KeefyH69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KeefyH69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: This is tantamount to cheating having to resort to messing around with the pitch and dodgy offsides, sounds a bit underhand. What's next putting banana skins under the oppositions feet? We should be playing fair if we're serious about the premier league. Not a popular with the supporters judging by all the empty seats either. Loads of us are off to palace next season, what they've done is worthy of a medal, we should take our hats off to them they are a fantastic club, amazing supporters, playing great attacking football, Albion just don't cut it and now we're trying to get in the play offs by cheating.[/p][/quote]Play fair? Did you SEE Skirtl against Man City??? Have you ever watched cricket? Don't you think THEIR groundsmen do the same? What about the pitch at Barnsley where we could only manage a carelessness. That pitch was designed to stop us playing our passing game.[/p][/quote]No idea where carelessness came from-supposed to read, "a scoreless draw"![/p][/quote]From above quote:- "This is tantamount to cheating" So what do they call it when you see ball boys passing a towel to the home team before a throw in is taken during wet weather? This is one practice I would like to see stopped as when you have a player with that extra long throw to the box it can mean the difference between win or loose. We have a 6 pointer being played tonight and we don't even have to kick a ball!!! russellsnr2
  • Score: 5

2:52pm Mon 14 Apr 14

The Phantom says...

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
tug509 says...


tug509 wrote:

str8outtaDC wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up
Really , such a great coach? Played ulloa up front with negative tactics for 40 odd games, when everyone could see ulloa was not happy .. We go with lingard alongside and create goal scoring opportunities.. Not shots from 30 yards, but one on ones .. Ulloa has scored two in two, I can't remember him having more than one up to then this season. Hardly a great mind when 20,000 have wanted it for best part of two years.Totally agree Brian. How have we stayed in touch all season with a massively depleted squad if not for good coaching? How have we brought young players like Ince and March into the squad if it wasn't for the person responsible doing the same at Barcelona?

Our so-called negativity has given us one of the best defensive records in the leagues. And have you ever considered that Oscar might have needed to do that as we had no (decent) fit strikers?

MBTS and others are always moaning -about Barber, parking, ticket prices etc etc etc - and Mark, earlier in the season wasn;t it the queues for the pies?

Now they want to claim credit for our actual tactics?

Thank god most fans back the experts, especially when they are doing well.If you asked the 28,000 at the game on Saturday ,do you want to go back to playing the way we did in the 5 games before Leicester ,winning none and scoring 3 ,or stick with the new more attacking set up ,winning both ,so far and scoring 7 ,how do you think the vote would go ??? ,how would you vote ? ,i would be very interested .What no answer ? ,just a negative response from someone who is hiding behind a key pad !. so i take it the question was too difficult .

Strange question Tug. Of course supporters - me included - would love albion to win 10-0 every game. Meanwhile, back in the real world, our head coach has to deal with players who are injured, players who have lost form, players who don't perform as expected in training, players who make mistakes because they are young and inexperienced. To assume that you can employ the same attacking tactics and formation for every game is naïve in the extreme. Sometimes you just have to batten own the hatches and grind out a result - Millwall, Barnsley. On other occasions you met a footballing side -Leicester - and you are able to play open attractive football. The truest thing Gustavo ever said was - 'Ees complicated.'
Good call. Wait and see the next time we are beaten playing the same expansive line up.....will get the inevitable postings from people saying we were being overrun in midfield. Cannot really win on these forums - nothing seemed bothered when our "negative" tactics were used when beating QPR 2-0.
[quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: tug509 says... tug509 wrote: str8outtaDC wrote: mark by the sea wrote: B rian Tawses left foot wrote: I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up Really , such a great coach? Played ulloa up front with negative tactics for 40 odd games, when everyone could see ulloa was not happy .. We go with lingard alongside and create goal scoring opportunities.. Not shots from 30 yards, but one on ones .. Ulloa has scored two in two, I can't remember him having more than one up to then this season. Hardly a great mind when 20,000 have wanted it for best part of two years.Totally agree Brian. How have we stayed in touch all season with a massively depleted squad if not for good coaching? How have we brought young players like Ince and March into the squad if it wasn't for the person responsible doing the same at Barcelona? Our so-called negativity has given us one of the best defensive records in the leagues. And have you ever considered that Oscar might have needed to do that as we had no (decent) fit strikers? MBTS and others are always moaning -about Barber, parking, ticket prices etc etc etc - and Mark, earlier in the season wasn;t it the queues for the pies? Now they want to claim credit for our actual tactics? Thank god most fans back the experts, especially when they are doing well.If you asked the 28,000 at the game on Saturday ,do you want to go back to playing the way we did in the 5 games before Leicester ,winning none and scoring 3 ,or stick with the new more attacking set up ,winning both ,so far and scoring 7 ,how do you think the vote would go ??? ,how would you vote ? ,i would be very interested .What no answer ? ,just a negative response from someone who is hiding behind a key pad !. so i take it the question was too difficult . Strange question Tug. Of course supporters - me included - would love albion to win 10-0 every game. Meanwhile, back in the real world, our head coach has to deal with players who are injured, players who have lost form, players who don't perform as expected in training, players who make mistakes because they are young and inexperienced. To assume that you can employ the same attacking tactics and formation for every game is naïve in the extreme. Sometimes you just have to batten own the hatches and grind out a result - Millwall, Barnsley. On other occasions you met a footballing side -Leicester - and you are able to play open attractive football. The truest thing Gustavo ever said was - 'Ees complicated.'[/p][/quote]Good call. Wait and see the next time we are beaten playing the same expansive line up.....will get the inevitable postings from people saying we were being overrun in midfield. Cannot really win on these forums - nothing seemed bothered when our "negative" tactics were used when beating QPR 2-0. The Phantom
  • Score: 10

2:52pm Mon 14 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

I think what Tug is saying is that you start a match with a line up that can apply pressure going forward, more pressure than we have been able to in earlier months, and if you do that, then you stand a better chance of getting the results you want.
Of course to adopt that stance we have to have the right players on the books and they have to be fit to play. With Crofts going down and Lingard arriving late in the season, it could be argued that we were one peice of the puzzle missing, but now we have found it in Lingard.
Prior to Lingard did we have the resources to line up and perform as we currently do, I don't think we did. Yep we had Kaz, but for me the jury is still out as to how many consecutive 90 minute matches he can play, but it's good that he now starts rather than coming on late, a danger at the get go seems better than a danger late on.
Oscar has moved Solly to a central role, and that is working well, I don't recall too many on here calling for that change, Solly has always been looked at as cover for Buckley, well done Oscar.
Stephens is making a difference now, it took him a few games to really get going and of course he is now required to play a slightly different due to our more attacking approach to matches, oh yeah, and he was injured for a brief spell.

I think Oscar has made decisions based on those available for selection, today he has more options than he has had all season, some may not agree with all his past decisions but that's football. I know Tug is happy today and I would bet that the past means very little to him but the upcoming matches mean everything.
I think what Tug is saying is that you start a match with a line up that can apply pressure going forward, more pressure than we have been able to in earlier months, and if you do that, then you stand a better chance of getting the results you want. Of course to adopt that stance we have to have the right players on the books and they have to be fit to play. With Crofts going down and Lingard arriving late in the season, it could be argued that we were one peice of the puzzle missing, but now we have found it in Lingard. Prior to Lingard did we have the resources to line up and perform as we currently do, I don't think we did. Yep we had Kaz, but for me the jury is still out as to how many consecutive 90 minute matches he can play, but it's good that he now starts rather than coming on late, a danger at the get go seems better than a danger late on. Oscar has moved Solly to a central role, and that is working well, I don't recall too many on here calling for that change, Solly has always been looked at as cover for Buckley, well done Oscar. Stephens is making a difference now, it took him a few games to really get going and of course he is now required to play a slightly different due to our more attacking approach to matches, oh yeah, and he was injured for a brief spell. I think Oscar has made decisions based on those available for selection, today he has more options than he has had all season, some may not agree with all his past decisions but that's football. I know Tug is happy today and I would bet that the past means very little to him but the upcoming matches mean everything. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 11

2:56pm Mon 14 Apr 14

tug509 says...

str8outtaDC ,B rian Tawses left foot ,both you lads seem to share the same opinions ,and i am no different ,we have one of the best new stadiums in Europe with a great fanbase to fill it ,Tony Bloom is every supporters idea of the perfect owner ,he loves The Albion as much as the rest of us ,even the Charlton lads are envious of that (having a true supporter as Chairman) .
I have done my share of moaning about Oscar and Nathan ,but i dont share the view that we should replace him . He has played at the highest level and is second to none for getting the best from the DS lads,but until recently i havn`t always agreed on his line ups ,just my personal opinion ,i like 2 wide and 2 forward ,as you say you cant play that way every game ,but even with the long list of injuries we started with ,we played far too defensively at home sometimes .There`s a few of us on here that might seem impatient ,but that is only because when we play an attacking set up ,we are hard to live with ,and thats about as positive as you can get ,with 4 games left i hope we dont change it . UTA
str8outtaDC ,B rian Tawses left foot ,both you lads seem to share the same opinions ,and i am no different ,we have one of the best new stadiums in Europe with a great fanbase to fill it ,Tony Bloom is every supporters idea of the perfect owner ,he loves The Albion as much as the rest of us ,even the Charlton lads are envious of that (having a true supporter as Chairman) . I have done my share of moaning about Oscar and Nathan ,but i dont share the view that we should replace him . He has played at the highest level and is second to none for getting the best from the DS lads,but until recently i havn`t always agreed on his line ups ,just my personal opinion ,i like 2 wide and 2 forward ,as you say you cant play that way every game ,but even with the long list of injuries we started with ,we played far too defensively at home sometimes .There`s a few of us on here that might seem impatient ,but that is only because when we play an attacking set up ,we are hard to live with ,and thats about as positive as you can get ,with 4 games left i hope we dont change it . UTA tug509
  • Score: 2

3:03pm Mon 14 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

tug509 wrote:
str8outtaDC ,B rian Tawses left foot ,both you lads seem to share the same opinions ,and i am no different ,we have one of the best new stadiums in Europe with a great fanbase to fill it ,Tony Bloom is every supporters idea of the perfect owner ,he loves The Albion as much as the rest of us ,even the Charlton lads are envious of that (having a true supporter as Chairman) .
I have done my share of moaning about Oscar and Nathan ,but i dont share the view that we should replace him . He has played at the highest level and is second to none for getting the best from the DS lads,but until recently i havn`t always agreed on his line ups ,just my personal opinion ,i like 2 wide and 2 forward ,as you say you cant play that way every game ,but even with the long list of injuries we started with ,we played far too defensively at home sometimes .There`s a few of us on here that might seem impatient ,but that is only because when we play an attacking set up ,we are hard to live with ,and thats about as positive as you can get ,with 4 games left i hope we dont change it . UTA
Tug you disagree with my comments? The change of formation is long over due, and you were wanting lingard to play up front as I did,
As you say our set up at the Amex against really poor sides has been awful,
As for phantoms comment about QPR , YOU clearly were not at the game, it was the most one sided games at the Amex for some time..
Poor finishing and TK were the reasons we won that! Same as when we lost to Wigan, we have to be losing to actually have a go! That game we should have won.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: str8outtaDC ,B rian Tawses left foot ,both you lads seem to share the same opinions ,and i am no different ,we have one of the best new stadiums in Europe with a great fanbase to fill it ,Tony Bloom is every supporters idea of the perfect owner ,he loves The Albion as much as the rest of us ,even the Charlton lads are envious of that (having a true supporter as Chairman) . I have done my share of moaning about Oscar and Nathan ,but i dont share the view that we should replace him . He has played at the highest level and is second to none for getting the best from the DS lads,but until recently i havn`t always agreed on his line ups ,just my personal opinion ,i like 2 wide and 2 forward ,as you say you cant play that way every game ,but even with the long list of injuries we started with ,we played far too defensively at home sometimes .There`s a few of us on here that might seem impatient ,but that is only because when we play an attacking set up ,we are hard to live with ,and thats about as positive as you can get ,with 4 games left i hope we dont change it . UTA[/p][/quote]Tug you disagree with my comments? The change of formation is long over due, and you were wanting lingard to play up front as I did, As you say our set up at the Amex against really poor sides has been awful, As for phantoms comment about QPR , YOU clearly were not at the game, it was the most one sided games at the Amex for some time.. Poor finishing and TK were the reasons we won that! Same as when we lost to Wigan, we have to be losing to actually have a go! That game we should have won. mark by the sea
  • Score: -6

3:06pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up
Really , such a great coach? Played ulloa up front with negative tactics for 40 odd games, when everyone could see ulloa was not happy .. We go with lingard alongside and create goal scoring opportunities.. Not shots from 30 yards, but one on ones .. Ulloa has scored two in two, I can't remember him having more than one up to then this season. Hardly a great mind when 20,000 have wanted it for best part of two years.
So Lingard wasn't with us for the previous matches, so any comments about tactics prior to Lingard arriving and giving us options the he does, are a waste of time.
What is the point of slagging off Oscar at a time when we are doing so well. Is it impossible for some of you to wake up happy about our situation, is it so hard to just enjoy the moment or are your days empty without ranting on for an hour or two.
Ok so Oscar could have done things differently earlier, so what, we have it right today and that's what counts. Just ignore all the injuries Oscar has had to work around, forget all the work he has done to put us in a position where we can make changes for the better. Oscar might have come to the party late, but all his prep work over the season has kept us in contact with the top six, if it wasn't for all he has done the changes we now see would have been for nothing.

There is just no pleasing some people.
Thanks Vegas, and also str8outtaDC, for some straight forward positivity. I truly believe you are saying what the silent majority are feeling.

Cyber managers seem to be over running this site. And worse still, cyber bullies such as Oscar Must Go seem to think they can force their negative thoughts on people and persuade them to follow.

Like Vegas and str8outtaDC I am chuffed to bits at where we are now and frankly I don't care too much how we got there. The challenges have been massive and we are in a play off place despite them. Yes, Oscar might have done things differently but I for one think he has grafted hard to lead our team to the play off margins.

For all the fantasy managers, why not go take your ambitions out on a cyber game? Leave the rest of us to enjoy the real world.

Play offs of not, Premier League or Championship, I will support the Albion through thick and thin, taking the good times and the bad. After all, isn't that what being a real fan is all about.

The mighty Albion are hitting form at the most crucial time so my rallying call to all who love this club is to get behind them and support them.

BRING ON THE NEXT FOUR GAMES AND COME ON YOU SEAGUUUULLLS!!!

UTA!!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up[/p][/quote]Really , such a great coach? Played ulloa up front with negative tactics for 40 odd games, when everyone could see ulloa was not happy .. We go with lingard alongside and create goal scoring opportunities.. Not shots from 30 yards, but one on ones .. Ulloa has scored two in two, I can't remember him having more than one up to then this season. Hardly a great mind when 20,000 have wanted it for best part of two years.[/p][/quote]So Lingard wasn't with us for the previous matches, so any comments about tactics prior to Lingard arriving and giving us options the he does, are a waste of time. What is the point of slagging off Oscar at a time when we are doing so well. Is it impossible for some of you to wake up happy about our situation, is it so hard to just enjoy the moment or are your days empty without ranting on for an hour or two. Ok so Oscar could have done things differently earlier, so what, we have it right today and that's what counts. Just ignore all the injuries Oscar has had to work around, forget all the work he has done to put us in a position where we can make changes for the better. Oscar might have come to the party late, but all his prep work over the season has kept us in contact with the top six, if it wasn't for all he has done the changes we now see would have been for nothing. There is just no pleasing some people.[/p][/quote]Thanks Vegas, and also str8outtaDC, for some straight forward positivity. I truly believe you are saying what the silent majority are feeling. Cyber managers seem to be over running this site. And worse still, cyber bullies such as Oscar Must Go seem to think they can force their negative thoughts on people and persuade them to follow. Like Vegas and str8outtaDC I am chuffed to bits at where we are now and frankly I don't care too much how we got there. The challenges have been massive and we are in a play off place despite them. Yes, Oscar might have done things differently but I for one think he has grafted hard to lead our team to the play off margins. For all the fantasy managers, why not go take your ambitions out on a cyber game? Leave the rest of us to enjoy the real world. Play offs of not, Premier League or Championship, I will support the Albion through thick and thin, taking the good times and the bad. After all, isn't that what being a real fan is all about. The mighty Albion are hitting form at the most crucial time so my rallying call to all who love this club is to get behind them and support them. BRING ON THE NEXT FOUR GAMES AND COME ON YOU SEAGUUUULLLS!!! UTA!! Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 13

3:06pm Mon 14 Apr 14

bbb1969 says...

Norfolk and way wrote:
Max Ripple wrote:
Norfolk and way wrote:
This is tantamount to cheating having to resort to messing around with the pitch and dodgy offsides, sounds a bit underhand. What's next putting banana skins under the oppositions feet? We should be playing fair if we're serious about the premier league. Not a popular with the supporters judging by all the empty seats either. Loads of us are off to palace next season, what they've done is worthy of a medal, we should take our hats off to them they are a fantastic club, amazing supporters, playing great attacking football, Albion just don't cut it and now we're trying to get in the play offs by cheating.
I don't generally like replying to trolls on this site but I am going to in this instance as....
Surely any club will prepare a surface that suits their own style of play? If you a,re a big side with big front men and not a lot of ball players you will prepare a pitch that doesn't help good fluent passing (which might help the opposition) but one that just suits the long high ball game..
In cricket a team with good spinners will prepare a strip that will more easily take spin. A team with seamers will prepare one that is maybe a bit green and bowlers will get sideways movement off the surface.
You may not like the Albion mate, but they are not cheating just making the best of their home ground. Which by the way, is better than Palaces all round.
Wrong, the Amex has no atmosphere it's like a Saturday afternoon trip to an out of town retail park. Have a look at palaces supporters all jumping up and down en mass, it creates an intimidating, electric atmosphere we can only dream of at Albion. It's a party atmosphere and many of us crave it, a proper ground for a proper club with proper supporters. No wonder they are contenders for team of the season now. There is passion and energy running through that club, we have much to learn.
I am not sure why this has so many thumbs down.
It has been a bit quiet at the Amex lately and a few empty seats but there is los of jumping up and down by the 20+ thousand supporters and that is great.
I agree Palarse have all their supporters jumping up and down but it is hard to do a Mexican wave with 20 fans.
[quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Max Ripple[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: This is tantamount to cheating having to resort to messing around with the pitch and dodgy offsides, sounds a bit underhand. What's next putting banana skins under the oppositions feet? We should be playing fair if we're serious about the premier league. Not a popular with the supporters judging by all the empty seats either. Loads of us are off to palace next season, what they've done is worthy of a medal, we should take our hats off to them they are a fantastic club, amazing supporters, playing great attacking football, Albion just don't cut it and now we're trying to get in the play offs by cheating.[/p][/quote]I don't generally like replying to trolls on this site but I am going to in this instance as.... Surely any club will prepare a surface that suits their own style of play? If you a,re a big side with big front men and not a lot of ball players you will prepare a pitch that doesn't help good fluent passing (which might help the opposition) but one that just suits the long high ball game.. In cricket a team with good spinners will prepare a strip that will more easily take spin. A team with seamers will prepare one that is maybe a bit green and bowlers will get sideways movement off the surface. You may not like the Albion mate, but they are not cheating just making the best of their home ground. Which by the way, is better than Palaces all round.[/p][/quote]Wrong, the Amex has no atmosphere it's like a Saturday afternoon trip to an out of town retail park. Have a look at palaces supporters all jumping up and down en mass, it creates an intimidating, electric atmosphere we can only dream of at Albion. It's a party atmosphere and many of us crave it, a proper ground for a proper club with proper supporters. No wonder they are contenders for team of the season now. There is passion and energy running through that club, we have much to learn.[/p][/quote]I am not sure why this has so many thumbs down. It has been a bit quiet at the Amex lately and a few empty seats but there is los of jumping up and down by the 20+ thousand supporters and that is great. I agree Palarse have all their supporters jumping up and down but it is hard to do a Mexican wave with 20 fans. bbb1969
  • Score: 2

3:10pm Mon 14 Apr 14

tug509 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
I think what Tug is saying is that you start a match with a line up that can apply pressure going forward, more pressure than we have been able to in earlier months, and if you do that, then you stand a better chance of getting the results you want.
Of course to adopt that stance we have to have the right players on the books and they have to be fit to play. With Crofts going down and Lingard arriving late in the season, it could be argued that we were one peice of the puzzle missing, but now we have found it in Lingard.
Prior to Lingard did we have the resources to line up and perform as we currently do, I don't think we did. Yep we had Kaz, but for me the jury is still out as to how many consecutive 90 minute matches he can play, but it's good that he now starts rather than coming on late, a danger at the get go seems better than a danger late on.
Oscar has moved Solly to a central role, and that is working well, I don't recall too many on here calling for that change, Solly has always been looked at as cover for Buckley, well done Oscar.
Stephens is making a difference now, it took him a few games to really get going and of course he is now required to play a slightly different due to our more attacking approach to matches, oh yeah, and he was injured for a brief spell.

I think Oscar has made decisions based on those available for selection, today he has more options than he has had all season, some may not agree with all his past decisions but that's football. I know Tug is happy today and I would bet that the past means very little to him but the upcoming matches mean everything.
Thanks Vegas ,i`m having one of those days when you cant put your words down the way you want ,but you just did it for me perfectly . UTA
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I think what Tug is saying is that you start a match with a line up that can apply pressure going forward, more pressure than we have been able to in earlier months, and if you do that, then you stand a better chance of getting the results you want. Of course to adopt that stance we have to have the right players on the books and they have to be fit to play. With Crofts going down and Lingard arriving late in the season, it could be argued that we were one peice of the puzzle missing, but now we have found it in Lingard. Prior to Lingard did we have the resources to line up and perform as we currently do, I don't think we did. Yep we had Kaz, but for me the jury is still out as to how many consecutive 90 minute matches he can play, but it's good that he now starts rather than coming on late, a danger at the get go seems better than a danger late on. Oscar has moved Solly to a central role, and that is working well, I don't recall too many on here calling for that change, Solly has always been looked at as cover for Buckley, well done Oscar. Stephens is making a difference now, it took him a few games to really get going and of course he is now required to play a slightly different due to our more attacking approach to matches, oh yeah, and he was injured for a brief spell. I think Oscar has made decisions based on those available for selection, today he has more options than he has had all season, some may not agree with all his past decisions but that's football. I know Tug is happy today and I would bet that the past means very little to him but the upcoming matches mean everything.[/p][/quote]Thanks Vegas ,i`m having one of those days when you cant put your words down the way you want ,but you just did it for me perfectly . UTA tug509
  • Score: 2

3:14pm Mon 14 Apr 14

pte says...

NJ has to show he's earning his wages. So after the match at Leicester he got a tape measure and measured the blades of grass at 4.2 cm and passed this vital info to OG and the groundsman. They then hatched the plan to beat Charlton with their Flymo at the desired setting. So NJ is rightly taking credit for the win
NJ has to show he's earning his wages. So after the match at Leicester he got a tape measure and measured the blades of grass at 4.2 cm and passed this vital info to OG and the groundsman. They then hatched the plan to beat Charlton with their Flymo at the desired setting. So NJ is rightly taking credit for the win pte
  • Score: 1

3:16pm Mon 14 Apr 14

tug509 says...

mark by the sea wrote:
tug509 wrote:
str8outtaDC ,B rian Tawses left foot ,both you lads seem to share the same opinions ,and i am no different ,we have one of the best new stadiums in Europe with a great fanbase to fill it ,Tony Bloom is every supporters idea of the perfect owner ,he loves The Albion as much as the rest of us ,even the Charlton lads are envious of that (having a true supporter as Chairman) .
I have done my share of moaning about Oscar and Nathan ,but i dont share the view that we should replace him . He has played at the highest level and is second to none for getting the best from the DS lads,but until recently i havn`t always agreed on his line ups ,just my personal opinion ,i like 2 wide and 2 forward ,as you say you cant play that way every game ,but even with the long list of injuries we started with ,we played far too defensively at home sometimes .There`s a few of us on here that might seem impatient ,but that is only because when we play an attacking set up ,we are hard to live with ,and thats about as positive as you can get ,with 4 games left i hope we dont change it . UTA
Tug you disagree with my comments? The change of formation is long over due, and you were wanting lingard to play up front as I did,
As you say our set up at the Amex against really poor sides has been awful,
As for phantoms comment about QPR , YOU clearly were not at the game, it was the most one sided games at the Amex for some time..
Poor finishing and TK were the reasons we won that! Same as when we lost to Wigan, we have to be losing to actually have a go! That game we should have won.
On the contrary ,i agree with both your above posts ,if i have been unclear it`s because i`m trying to do about 5 things at once today ,so not on the ball .
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: str8outtaDC ,B rian Tawses left foot ,both you lads seem to share the same opinions ,and i am no different ,we have one of the best new stadiums in Europe with a great fanbase to fill it ,Tony Bloom is every supporters idea of the perfect owner ,he loves The Albion as much as the rest of us ,even the Charlton lads are envious of that (having a true supporter as Chairman) . I have done my share of moaning about Oscar and Nathan ,but i dont share the view that we should replace him . He has played at the highest level and is second to none for getting the best from the DS lads,but until recently i havn`t always agreed on his line ups ,just my personal opinion ,i like 2 wide and 2 forward ,as you say you cant play that way every game ,but even with the long list of injuries we started with ,we played far too defensively at home sometimes .There`s a few of us on here that might seem impatient ,but that is only because when we play an attacking set up ,we are hard to live with ,and thats about as positive as you can get ,with 4 games left i hope we dont change it . UTA[/p][/quote]Tug you disagree with my comments? The change of formation is long over due, and you were wanting lingard to play up front as I did, As you say our set up at the Amex against really poor sides has been awful, As for phantoms comment about QPR , YOU clearly were not at the game, it was the most one sided games at the Amex for some time.. Poor finishing and TK were the reasons we won that! Same as when we lost to Wigan, we have to be losing to actually have a go! That game we should have won.[/p][/quote]On the contrary ,i agree with both your above posts ,if i have been unclear it`s because i`m trying to do about 5 things at once today ,so not on the ball . tug509
  • Score: 0

3:26pm Mon 14 Apr 14

The Phantom says...

mark by the sea wrote:
tug509 wrote:
str8outtaDC ,B rian Tawses left foot ,both you lads seem to share the same opinions ,and i am no different ,we have one of the best new stadiums in Europe with a great fanbase to fill it ,Tony Bloom is every supporters idea of the perfect owner ,he loves The Albion as much as the rest of us ,even the Charlton lads are envious of that (having a true supporter as Chairman) .
I have done my share of moaning about Oscar and Nathan ,but i dont share the view that we should replace him . He has played at the highest level and is second to none for getting the best from the DS lads,but until recently i havn`t always agreed on his line ups ,just my personal opinion ,i like 2 wide and 2 forward ,as you say you cant play that way every game ,but even with the long list of injuries we started with ,we played far too defensively at home sometimes .There`s a few of us on here that might seem impatient ,but that is only because when we play an attacking set up ,we are hard to live with ,and thats about as positive as you can get ,with 4 games left i hope we dont change it . UTA
Tug you disagree with my comments? The change of formation is long over due, and you were wanting lingard to play up front as I did,
As you say our set up at the Amex against really poor sides has been awful,
As for phantoms comment about QPR , YOU clearly were not at the game, it was the most one sided games at the Amex for some time..
Poor finishing and TK were the reasons we won that! Same as when we lost to Wigan, we have to be losing to actually have a go! That game we should have won.
Mark, surely it is pretty obvious that I was at the game otherwise I would not have been able to make the comment about our supposed negative tactics...... we hung in the game that night by getting people behind the ball and then showing some attacking intent in the last 20 minutes. QPR dominated for long periods (as indeed they should do with the players they have) and we found a way to win in the end with a bit of luck and a good defensive performance - if we had gone gung-ho that night we may well have been hammered. As I mentioned earlier, i don't really recall too many negative postings on here that night - i am sure if we had lost there would have been, It is just the way it is.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: str8outtaDC ,B rian Tawses left foot ,both you lads seem to share the same opinions ,and i am no different ,we have one of the best new stadiums in Europe with a great fanbase to fill it ,Tony Bloom is every supporters idea of the perfect owner ,he loves The Albion as much as the rest of us ,even the Charlton lads are envious of that (having a true supporter as Chairman) . I have done my share of moaning about Oscar and Nathan ,but i dont share the view that we should replace him . He has played at the highest level and is second to none for getting the best from the DS lads,but until recently i havn`t always agreed on his line ups ,just my personal opinion ,i like 2 wide and 2 forward ,as you say you cant play that way every game ,but even with the long list of injuries we started with ,we played far too defensively at home sometimes .There`s a few of us on here that might seem impatient ,but that is only because when we play an attacking set up ,we are hard to live with ,and thats about as positive as you can get ,with 4 games left i hope we dont change it . UTA[/p][/quote]Tug you disagree with my comments? The change of formation is long over due, and you were wanting lingard to play up front as I did, As you say our set up at the Amex against really poor sides has been awful, As for phantoms comment about QPR , YOU clearly were not at the game, it was the most one sided games at the Amex for some time.. Poor finishing and TK were the reasons we won that! Same as when we lost to Wigan, we have to be losing to actually have a go! That game we should have won.[/p][/quote]Mark, surely it is pretty obvious that I was at the game otherwise I would not have been able to make the comment about our supposed negative tactics...... we hung in the game that night by getting people behind the ball and then showing some attacking intent in the last 20 minutes. QPR dominated for long periods (as indeed they should do with the players they have) and we found a way to win in the end with a bit of luck and a good defensive performance - if we had gone gung-ho that night we may well have been hammered. As I mentioned earlier, i don't really recall too many negative postings on here that night - i am sure if we had lost there would have been, It is just the way it is. The Phantom
  • Score: 7

3:44pm Mon 14 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

MBTS, does it really matter with regard to what did or did not occur on the park over the last months, isn't the important thing really all about what is happening today?
Why does it mater what line up we sent out in other matches, we are where we are and that is what counts now. Are you waiting for those that post comments to tell you, 'yeah MBTS, you were right all along, everythng you pointed out was 100% right,' isn't that already being said by Knights Temple?
Some of your observations are correct, some of your points are valid, some have stood the test of time, and some have been shown to be wrong or misguided, what does that prove, nothing.

This forum isn't a competition, it's not a place to try and prove that you (you as in anybody) knows more than others or has better insight into all matters football, it's supposed to be a place to offer different opinions based on a shared desire to see our club rise to the top.
MBTS, does it really matter with regard to what did or did not occur on the park over the last months, isn't the important thing really all about what is happening today? Why does it mater what line up we sent out in other matches, we are where we are and that is what counts now. Are you waiting for those that post comments to tell you, 'yeah MBTS, you were right all along, everythng you pointed out was 100% right,' isn't that already being said by Knights Temple? Some of your observations are correct, some of your points are valid, some have stood the test of time, and some have been shown to be wrong or misguided, what does that prove, nothing. This forum isn't a competition, it's not a place to try and prove that you (you as in anybody) knows more than others or has better insight into all matters football, it's supposed to be a place to offer different opinions based on a shared desire to see our club rise to the top. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 7

3:56pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
MBTS, does it really matter with regard to what did or did not occur on the park over the last months, isn't the important thing really all about what is happening today?
Why does it mater what line up we sent out in other matches, we are where we are and that is what counts now. Are you waiting for those that post comments to tell you, 'yeah MBTS, you were right all along, everythng you pointed out was 100% right,' isn't that already being said by Knights Temple?
Some of your observations are correct, some of your points are valid, some have stood the test of time, and some have been shown to be wrong or misguided, what does that prove, nothing.

This forum isn't a competition, it's not a place to try and prove that you (you as in anybody) knows more than others or has better insight into all matters football, it's supposed to be a place to offer different opinions based on a shared desire to see our club rise to the top.
Nicely put Vegas. The fantasy manager egos are fighting for their lives on here right now. Yaaaaaawwwnnn.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: MBTS, does it really matter with regard to what did or did not occur on the park over the last months, isn't the important thing really all about what is happening today? Why does it mater what line up we sent out in other matches, we are where we are and that is what counts now. Are you waiting for those that post comments to tell you, 'yeah MBTS, you were right all along, everythng you pointed out was 100% right,' isn't that already being said by Knights Temple? Some of your observations are correct, some of your points are valid, some have stood the test of time, and some have been shown to be wrong or misguided, what does that prove, nothing. This forum isn't a competition, it's not a place to try and prove that you (you as in anybody) knows more than others or has better insight into all matters football, it's supposed to be a place to offer different opinions based on a shared desire to see our club rise to the top.[/p][/quote]Nicely put Vegas. The fantasy manager egos are fighting for their lives on here right now. Yaaaaaawwwnnn. Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 7

3:59pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

I agree - I blame Championship Manager :-)

Have an opinion by all means, but leave it to the pros and don't pretend we'd do a better job!
I agree - I blame Championship Manager :-) Have an opinion by all means, but leave it to the pros and don't pretend we'd do a better job! Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 4

4:02pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Chi Gull says...

MBTS - I usually like reading your comments even if they are a bit provocative. You are usually very positive when things are going well. I will argue with you on one point. I don't think we are now playing two up front. It looked to me more like a 4-2-3-1 formation with Lingard, KLL and March interchanging behind Ulloa and doing some defensive stuff when needed. For me it was the fluidity and flexibility of the forward formation that made the difference. There always seemed to be a forward passing option and Charlton were having problems picking up our front 4. We have started previously with Buckley, Lingard and Ulloa - hardly a defensive formation - but it was quite rigid with Buckley and Lingard mainly out wide. What I liked on Saturday was the way KLL wasn't always out wide, and neither was Lingard, so Charlton never knew if it was going down the line or coming inside. When talking about our attacking intent people rarely mention our full backs. Ward and Bruno (or Calde) are always getting forward giving extra attacking options.

So yes, OG has been overly defensive at times, but not to the extent that people here often think. Sometimes the mix of players just hasn't worked or the set up has been too rigid, or we haven't played at the right tempo. That's as much down to the players as it is to OGs tactics.

Finally, I think Stephens is making a big difference. He is a good all round player, strong defensively and also able to get forward and be a threat in attack. Players like Ince and Lopez are good either in defence or attack but not both.

When you look at the remaining fixtures for the play off contenders, we are in with an excellent chance as long as we do well in our remaining games.
MBTS - I usually like reading your comments even if they are a bit provocative. You are usually very positive when things are going well. I will argue with you on one point. I don't think we are now playing two up front. It looked to me more like a 4-2-3-1 formation with Lingard, KLL and March interchanging behind Ulloa and doing some defensive stuff when needed. For me it was the fluidity and flexibility of the forward formation that made the difference. There always seemed to be a forward passing option and Charlton were having problems picking up our front 4. We have started previously with Buckley, Lingard and Ulloa - hardly a defensive formation - but it was quite rigid with Buckley and Lingard mainly out wide. What I liked on Saturday was the way KLL wasn't always out wide, and neither was Lingard, so Charlton never knew if it was going down the line or coming inside. When talking about our attacking intent people rarely mention our full backs. Ward and Bruno (or Calde) are always getting forward giving extra attacking options. So yes, OG has been overly defensive at times, but not to the extent that people here often think. Sometimes the mix of players just hasn't worked or the set up has been too rigid, or we haven't played at the right tempo. That's as much down to the players as it is to OGs tactics. Finally, I think Stephens is making a big difference. He is a good all round player, strong defensively and also able to get forward and be a threat in attack. Players like Ince and Lopez are good either in defence or attack but not both. When you look at the remaining fixtures for the play off contenders, we are in with an excellent chance as long as we do well in our remaining games. Chi Gull
  • Score: 9

4:06pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Chi Gull wrote:
MBTS - I usually like reading your comments even if they are a bit provocative. You are usually very positive when things are going well. I will argue with you on one point. I don't think we are now playing two up front. It looked to me more like a 4-2-3-1 formation with Lingard, KLL and March interchanging behind Ulloa and doing some defensive stuff when needed. For me it was the fluidity and flexibility of the forward formation that made the difference. There always seemed to be a forward passing option and Charlton were having problems picking up our front 4. We have started previously with Buckley, Lingard and Ulloa - hardly a defensive formation - but it was quite rigid with Buckley and Lingard mainly out wide. What I liked on Saturday was the way KLL wasn't always out wide, and neither was Lingard, so Charlton never knew if it was going down the line or coming inside. When talking about our attacking intent people rarely mention our full backs. Ward and Bruno (or Calde) are always getting forward giving extra attacking options.

So yes, OG has been overly defensive at times, but not to the extent that people here often think. Sometimes the mix of players just hasn't worked or the set up has been too rigid, or we haven't played at the right tempo. That's as much down to the players as it is to OGs tactics.

Finally, I think Stephens is making a big difference. He is a good all round player, strong defensively and also able to get forward and be a threat in attack. Players like Ince and Lopez are good either in defence or attack but not both.

When you look at the remaining fixtures for the play off contenders, we are in with an excellent chance as long as we do well in our remaining games.
Lots of valid points, Chi. I would add that it's not just our lineup that determines how we play, it's the opposition and their tactics. A lineup of ours that could rip one side to shreds could be wholly ineffective against a different team. Is OG to blame for that? Only if he sees it and does nothing about it.

I'm happy that we're in good hands.
[quote][p][bold]Chi Gull[/bold] wrote: MBTS - I usually like reading your comments even if they are a bit provocative. You are usually very positive when things are going well. I will argue with you on one point. I don't think we are now playing two up front. It looked to me more like a 4-2-3-1 formation with Lingard, KLL and March interchanging behind Ulloa and doing some defensive stuff when needed. For me it was the fluidity and flexibility of the forward formation that made the difference. There always seemed to be a forward passing option and Charlton were having problems picking up our front 4. We have started previously with Buckley, Lingard and Ulloa - hardly a defensive formation - but it was quite rigid with Buckley and Lingard mainly out wide. What I liked on Saturday was the way KLL wasn't always out wide, and neither was Lingard, so Charlton never knew if it was going down the line or coming inside. When talking about our attacking intent people rarely mention our full backs. Ward and Bruno (or Calde) are always getting forward giving extra attacking options. So yes, OG has been overly defensive at times, but not to the extent that people here often think. Sometimes the mix of players just hasn't worked or the set up has been too rigid, or we haven't played at the right tempo. That's as much down to the players as it is to OGs tactics. Finally, I think Stephens is making a big difference. He is a good all round player, strong defensively and also able to get forward and be a threat in attack. Players like Ince and Lopez are good either in defence or attack but not both. When you look at the remaining fixtures for the play off contenders, we are in with an excellent chance as long as we do well in our remaining games.[/p][/quote]Lots of valid points, Chi. I would add that it's not just our lineup that determines how we play, it's the opposition and their tactics. A lineup of ours that could rip one side to shreds could be wholly ineffective against a different team. Is OG to blame for that? Only if he sees it and does nothing about it. I'm happy that we're in good hands. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 6

4:34pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

ADS_BRAKES wrote:
Begs the question. Why did it take 42 games to ask the groundsman for a pitch that they can play on?
Different players prefer different grass length.
[quote][p][bold]ADS_BRAKES[/bold] wrote: Begs the question. Why did it take 42 games to ask the groundsman for a pitch that they can play on?[/p][/quote]Different players prefer different grass length. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 3

4:38pm Mon 14 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

Just read an interesting article I cam across whilst checking out the , 'News Now,' site, Oscar to Barcelona as manager?
The article speculates on the possibility of a change of manager at Barca and names three possible routes the club might take, each offering a different approach.
Just read an interesting article I cam across whilst checking out the , 'News Now,' site, Oscar to Barcelona as manager? The article speculates on the possibility of a change of manager at Barca and names three possible routes the club might take, each offering a different approach. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

4:42pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Just read an interesting article I cam across whilst checking out the , 'News Now,' site, Oscar to Barcelona as manager?
The article speculates on the possibility of a change of manager at Barca and names three possible routes the club might take, each offering a different approach.
Do you have a URL? I always have the devil's own job of navigating that site.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Just read an interesting article I cam across whilst checking out the , 'News Now,' site, Oscar to Barcelona as manager? The article speculates on the possibility of a change of manager at Barca and names three possible routes the club might take, each offering a different approach.[/p][/quote]Do you have a URL? I always have the devil's own job of navigating that site. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 0

5:02pm Mon 14 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Just read an interesting article I cam across whilst checking out the , 'News Now,' site, Oscar to Barcelona as manager?
The article speculates on the possibility of a change of manager at Barca and names three possible routes the club might take, each offering a different approach.
Do you have a URL? I always have the devil's own job of navigating that site.
just go to News Now site, put your cursor over sport,, don't click, then slide to football, then to Championship, then Brighton, click on Brighton, it's in the first three headlines.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Just read an interesting article I cam across whilst checking out the , 'News Now,' site, Oscar to Barcelona as manager? The article speculates on the possibility of a change of manager at Barca and names three possible routes the club might take, each offering a different approach.[/p][/quote]Do you have a URL? I always have the devil's own job of navigating that site.[/p][/quote]just go to News Now site, put your cursor over sport,, don't click, then slide to football, then to Championship, then Brighton, click on Brighton, it's in the first three headlines. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

5:04pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Mancgulled says...

Nice to see a trip to Leicester helped -- maybe they can help again tonight by battering Reading lol ...
Nice to see a trip to Leicester helped -- maybe they can help again tonight by battering Reading lol ... Mancgulled
  • Score: 1

5:04pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Mr chock says...

ADS_BRAKES wrote:
Begs the question. Why did it take 42 games to ask the groundsman for a pitch that they can play on?
ha ha ha .. next time they lose the article will say they cut the grass just to short or to long ? .. i sometimes wonder what that glow is there at the Amex stadium is it really needed to be illuminated almost all night ... with that glow ?
thank goodness i dont pay the electricity bills , the match tickets cost so much ... opps ..
[quote][p][bold]ADS_BRAKES[/bold] wrote: Begs the question. Why did it take 42 games to ask the groundsman for a pitch that they can play on?[/p][/quote]ha ha ha .. next time they lose the article will say they cut the grass just to short or to long ? .. i sometimes wonder what that glow is there at the Amex stadium is it really needed to be illuminated almost all night ... with that glow ? thank goodness i dont pay the electricity bills , the match tickets cost so much ... opps .. Mr chock
  • Score: -6

5:07pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Just read an interesting article I cam across whilst checking out the , 'News Now,' site, Oscar to Barcelona as manager?
The article speculates on the possibility of a change of manager at Barca and names three possible routes the club might take, each offering a different approach.
Do you have a URL? I always have the devil's own job of navigating that site.
just go to News Now site, put your cursor over sport,, don't click, then slide to football, then to Championship, then Brighton, click on Brighton, it's in the first three headlines.
Cheers Vegas, a very interesting piece. It seems Oscar is rated incredibly highly by everyone except a subset of his team's own supporters. The fact he's even being mentioned in passing as a future Barca coach speaks volumes for his reputation.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Just read an interesting article I cam across whilst checking out the , 'News Now,' site, Oscar to Barcelona as manager? The article speculates on the possibility of a change of manager at Barca and names three possible routes the club might take, each offering a different approach.[/p][/quote]Do you have a URL? I always have the devil's own job of navigating that site.[/p][/quote]just go to News Now site, put your cursor over sport,, don't click, then slide to football, then to Championship, then Brighton, click on Brighton, it's in the first three headlines.[/p][/quote]Cheers Vegas, a very interesting piece. It seems Oscar is rated incredibly highly by everyone except a subset of his team's own supporters. The fact he's even being mentioned in passing as a future Barca coach speaks volumes for his reputation. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

5:16pm Mon 14 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Just read an interesting article I cam across whilst checking out the , 'News Now,' site, Oscar to Barcelona as manager?
The article speculates on the possibility of a change of manager at Barca and names three possible routes the club might take, each offering a different approach.
Do you have a URL? I always have the devil's own job of navigating that site.
just go to News Now site, put your cursor over sport,, don't click, then slide to football, then to Championship, then Brighton, click on Brighton, it's in the first three headlines.
Cheers Vegas, a very interesting piece. It seems Oscar is rated incredibly highly by everyone except a subset of his team's own supporters. The fact he's even being mentioned in passing as a future Barca coach speaks volumes for his reputation.
It's all about a philosphy of how the game should be played, the article talks of three approaches but one, if Oscar were installed, would see Barca continue with the philosophy that has seen them become what they are. Oscar knows the system, he understands about bringing players thru to provide consistency in how they play.
We can see Oscar applying the same ethos at Brighton, he has all the teams, no matter what their age, all playing the same way and what this does is make it easier for players to adapt to stepping up to the next level within the club.

I don't think Oscar will get the Barca job, yeah it could happen in the future, but maybe not now, that said, I wouldn't bet against him getting it and doing well if he did.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Just read an interesting article I cam across whilst checking out the , 'News Now,' site, Oscar to Barcelona as manager? The article speculates on the possibility of a change of manager at Barca and names three possible routes the club might take, each offering a different approach.[/p][/quote]Do you have a URL? I always have the devil's own job of navigating that site.[/p][/quote]just go to News Now site, put your cursor over sport,, don't click, then slide to football, then to Championship, then Brighton, click on Brighton, it's in the first three headlines.[/p][/quote]Cheers Vegas, a very interesting piece. It seems Oscar is rated incredibly highly by everyone except a subset of his team's own supporters. The fact he's even being mentioned in passing as a future Barca coach speaks volumes for his reputation.[/p][/quote]It's all about a philosphy of how the game should be played, the article talks of three approaches but one, if Oscar were installed, would see Barca continue with the philosophy that has seen them become what they are. Oscar knows the system, he understands about bringing players thru to provide consistency in how they play. We can see Oscar applying the same ethos at Brighton, he has all the teams, no matter what their age, all playing the same way and what this does is make it easier for players to adapt to stepping up to the next level within the club. I don't think Oscar will get the Barca job, yeah it could happen in the future, but maybe not now, that said, I wouldn't bet against him getting it and doing well if he did. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

5:27pm Mon 14 Apr 14

ballantrrae says...

elljam wrote:
Nice of Jones to finally admit that the tempo has been too slow in previous games.
Good point elljam as is Mark BTS's about the pitch being blamed. Hope we keep the 'up tempo' game going and maintain playing the trio of Lingard, LuaLua & March just behind Ulloa. This 'formation seems effective and looks exciting.
I wonder when Hoskins will be fit enough to be considered for the match squad. Last week Oscar was quoted as saying that he was back training with the medics but not the team. Does anyone have any later info ?
I assume they are giving Ince a bit of a breather. I think he needed one after suffering the 'dead leg' injury and had lost a little of his sharpness recently. I imagine he will play the role Andrews is currently doing next season. Incidentally I am not sure that Ince and Andrews quite 'gell' playing together and Ince represents the future and has more physical presence.
Looking to Leicester to do us a favour tonight.
[quote][p][bold]elljam[/bold] wrote: Nice of Jones to finally admit that the tempo has been too slow in previous games.[/p][/quote]Good point elljam as is Mark BTS's about the pitch being blamed. Hope we keep the 'up tempo' game going and maintain playing the trio of Lingard, LuaLua & March just behind Ulloa. This 'formation seems effective and looks exciting. I wonder when Hoskins will be fit enough to be considered for the match squad. Last week Oscar was quoted as saying that he was back training with the medics but not the team. Does anyone have any later info ? I assume they are giving Ince a bit of a breather. I think he needed one after suffering the 'dead leg' injury and had lost a little of his sharpness recently. I imagine he will play the role Andrews is currently doing next season. Incidentally I am not sure that Ince and Andrews quite 'gell' playing together and Ince represents the future and has more physical presence. Looking to Leicester to do us a favour tonight. ballantrrae
  • Score: 6

5:48pm Mon 14 Apr 14

ballantrrae says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
I think what Tug is saying is that you start a match with a line up that can apply pressure going forward, more pressure than we have been able to in earlier months, and if you do that, then you stand a better chance of getting the results you want.
Of course to adopt that stance we have to have the right players on the books and they have to be fit to play. With Crofts going down and Lingard arriving late in the season, it could be argued that we were one peice of the puzzle missing, but now we have found it in Lingard.
Prior to Lingard did we have the resources to line up and perform as we currently do, I don't think we did. Yep we had Kaz, but for me the jury is still out as to how many consecutive 90 minute matches he can play, but it's good that he now starts rather than coming on late, a danger at the get go seems better than a danger late on.
Oscar has moved Solly to a central role, and that is working well, I don't recall too many on here calling for that change, Solly has always been looked at as cover for Buckley, well done Oscar.
Stephens is making a difference now, it took him a few games to really get going and of course he is now required to play a slightly different due to our more attacking approach to matches, oh yeah, and he was injured for a brief spell.

I think Oscar has made decisions based on those available for selection, today he has more options than he has had all season, some may not agree with all his past decisions but that's football. I know Tug is happy today and I would bet that the past means very little to him but the upcoming matches mean everything.
Vegas just for the record March has been playing in the attacking midfield role for the DS when he has turned out for it so the club have recognised that long-term that is probably his best position.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I think what Tug is saying is that you start a match with a line up that can apply pressure going forward, more pressure than we have been able to in earlier months, and if you do that, then you stand a better chance of getting the results you want. Of course to adopt that stance we have to have the right players on the books and they have to be fit to play. With Crofts going down and Lingard arriving late in the season, it could be argued that we were one peice of the puzzle missing, but now we have found it in Lingard. Prior to Lingard did we have the resources to line up and perform as we currently do, I don't think we did. Yep we had Kaz, but for me the jury is still out as to how many consecutive 90 minute matches he can play, but it's good that he now starts rather than coming on late, a danger at the get go seems better than a danger late on. Oscar has moved Solly to a central role, and that is working well, I don't recall too many on here calling for that change, Solly has always been looked at as cover for Buckley, well done Oscar. Stephens is making a difference now, it took him a few games to really get going and of course he is now required to play a slightly different due to our more attacking approach to matches, oh yeah, and he was injured for a brief spell. I think Oscar has made decisions based on those available for selection, today he has more options than he has had all season, some may not agree with all his past decisions but that's football. I know Tug is happy today and I would bet that the past means very little to him but the upcoming matches mean everything.[/p][/quote]Vegas just for the record March has been playing in the attacking midfield role for the DS when he has turned out for it so the club have recognised that long-term that is probably his best position. ballantrrae
  • Score: 6

5:53pm Mon 14 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

ballantrrae wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
I think what Tug is saying is that you start a match with a line up that can apply pressure going forward, more pressure than we have been able to in earlier months, and if you do that, then you stand a better chance of getting the results you want.
Of course to adopt that stance we have to have the right players on the books and they have to be fit to play. With Crofts going down and Lingard arriving late in the season, it could be argued that we were one peice of the puzzle missing, but now we have found it in Lingard.
Prior to Lingard did we have the resources to line up and perform as we currently do, I don't think we did. Yep we had Kaz, but for me the jury is still out as to how many consecutive 90 minute matches he can play, but it's good that he now starts rather than coming on late, a danger at the get go seems better than a danger late on.
Oscar has moved Solly to a central role, and that is working well, I don't recall too many on here calling for that change, Solly has always been looked at as cover for Buckley, well done Oscar.
Stephens is making a difference now, it took him a few games to really get going and of course he is now required to play a slightly different due to our more attacking approach to matches, oh yeah, and he was injured for a brief spell.

I think Oscar has made decisions based on those available for selection, today he has more options than he has had all season, some may not agree with all his past decisions but that's football. I know Tug is happy today and I would bet that the past means very little to him but the upcoming matches mean everything.
Vegas just for the record March has been playing in the attacking midfield role for the DS when he has turned out for it so the club have recognised that long-term that is probably his best position.
Thanks Ballantrrae, I didn't know that.
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I think what Tug is saying is that you start a match with a line up that can apply pressure going forward, more pressure than we have been able to in earlier months, and if you do that, then you stand a better chance of getting the results you want. Of course to adopt that stance we have to have the right players on the books and they have to be fit to play. With Crofts going down and Lingard arriving late in the season, it could be argued that we were one peice of the puzzle missing, but now we have found it in Lingard. Prior to Lingard did we have the resources to line up and perform as we currently do, I don't think we did. Yep we had Kaz, but for me the jury is still out as to how many consecutive 90 minute matches he can play, but it's good that he now starts rather than coming on late, a danger at the get go seems better than a danger late on. Oscar has moved Solly to a central role, and that is working well, I don't recall too many on here calling for that change, Solly has always been looked at as cover for Buckley, well done Oscar. Stephens is making a difference now, it took him a few games to really get going and of course he is now required to play a slightly different due to our more attacking approach to matches, oh yeah, and he was injured for a brief spell. I think Oscar has made decisions based on those available for selection, today he has more options than he has had all season, some may not agree with all his past decisions but that's football. I know Tug is happy today and I would bet that the past means very little to him but the upcoming matches mean everything.[/p][/quote]Vegas just for the record March has been playing in the attacking midfield role for the DS when he has turned out for it so the club have recognised that long-term that is probably his best position.[/p][/quote]Thanks Ballantrrae, I didn't know that. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

6:27pm Mon 14 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

With Huddersfield being 6 points ahead of Millwall in the table I think it safe to say that they, (Huddersfield) are safe from relegation, and that should make our match against them interesting to say the least.

We have doscovered a new found freedom to go and score goals, Huddersfield will be able to approach this match with a certain amount of freedom, they can enjoy the moment, and these two facts, we hope, will create an open game.
The pressure in this match is going to be on us, we need the 3 points and Huddersfield don't, a point would be fine for them but I am sure they would relish the thought of taking our scalp so they might well come out looking for all 3, the first half hour could be big.

I don't see either the players or Oscar wanting to change things too much, unless any of the lads are carrying a knock that we don't know of. Pulling Lua Lua off on saturday was probably a good move, he now has nearly a week to get ready for the next one.
If well TK will almost certainly be back between the sticks and CMS will be on the bench again. I have to say, and I said it on saturday, I was surprised that Oscar didn't get some playing time into CMS against Charlton, the match seemed perfectly set up to do so. Had CMS got on the park I suppose it would have been Lingard that made way, perhaps Oscar sees more value in keeping Lingard and Ulloa playing together for as long as possible, so as to improve their understanding of each other's game.

Today, and for now only today, Leicester have an extra fan, one that is many miles away from the action. 1-2 Leicester.
With Huddersfield being 6 points ahead of Millwall in the table I think it safe to say that they, (Huddersfield) are safe from relegation, and that should make our match against them interesting to say the least. We have doscovered a new found freedom to go and score goals, Huddersfield will be able to approach this match with a certain amount of freedom, they can enjoy the moment, and these two facts, we hope, will create an open game. The pressure in this match is going to be on us, we need the 3 points and Huddersfield don't, a point would be fine for them but I am sure they would relish the thought of taking our scalp so they might well come out looking for all 3, the first half hour could be big. I don't see either the players or Oscar wanting to change things too much, unless any of the lads are carrying a knock that we don't know of. Pulling Lua Lua off on saturday was probably a good move, he now has nearly a week to get ready for the next one. If well TK will almost certainly be back between the sticks and CMS will be on the bench again. I have to say, and I said it on saturday, I was surprised that Oscar didn't get some playing time into CMS against Charlton, the match seemed perfectly set up to do so. Had CMS got on the park I suppose it would have been Lingard that made way, perhaps Oscar sees more value in keeping Lingard and Ulloa playing together for as long as possible, so as to improve their understanding of each other's game. Today, and for now only today, Leicester have an extra fan, one that is many miles away from the action. 1-2 Leicester. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

6:48pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Norfolk and way says...

Mr chock wrote:
ADS_BRAKES wrote:
Begs the question. Why did it take 42 games to ask the groundsman for a pitch that they can play on?
ha ha ha .. next time they lose the article will say they cut the grass just to short or to long ? .. i sometimes wonder what that glow is there at the Amex stadium is it really needed to be illuminated almost all night ... with that glow ?
thank goodness i dont pay the electricity bills , the match tickets cost so much ... opps ..
Yes it is a mysterious glow, a shocking waste of electricity which we then have to pay for with vastly inflated ticket prices. And no money for players either.
[quote][p][bold]Mr chock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ADS_BRAKES[/bold] wrote: Begs the question. Why did it take 42 games to ask the groundsman for a pitch that they can play on?[/p][/quote]ha ha ha .. next time they lose the article will say they cut the grass just to short or to long ? .. i sometimes wonder what that glow is there at the Amex stadium is it really needed to be illuminated almost all night ... with that glow ? thank goodness i dont pay the electricity bills , the match tickets cost so much ... opps ..[/p][/quote]Yes it is a mysterious glow, a shocking waste of electricity which we then have to pay for with vastly inflated ticket prices. And no money for players either. Norfolk and way
  • Score: -7

7:29pm Mon 14 Apr 14

hannover seagull says...

Norfolk and way wrote:
Max Ripple wrote:
Norfolk and way wrote:
This is tantamount to cheating having to resort to messing around with the pitch and dodgy offsides, sounds a bit underhand. What's next putting banana skins under the oppositions feet? We should be playing fair if we're serious about the premier league. Not a popular with the supporters judging by all the empty seats either. Loads of us are off to palace next season, what they've done is worthy of a medal, we should take our hats off to them they are a fantastic club, amazing supporters, playing great attacking football, Albion just don't cut it and now we're trying to get in the play offs by cheating.
I don't generally like replying to trolls on this site but I am going to in this instance as....
Surely any club will prepare a surface that suits their own style of play? If you a,re a big side with big front men and not a lot of ball players you will prepare a pitch that doesn't help good fluent passing (which might help the opposition) but one that just suits the long high ball game..
In cricket a team with good spinners will prepare a strip that will more easily take spin. A team with seamers will prepare one that is maybe a bit green and bowlers will get sideways movement off the surface.
You may not like the Albion mate, but they are not cheating just making the best of their home ground. Which by the way, is better than Palaces all round.
Wrong, the Amex has no atmosphere it's like a Saturday afternoon trip to an out of town retail park. Have a look at palaces supporters all jumping up and down en mass, it creates an intimidating, electric atmosphere we can only dream of at Albion. It's a party atmosphere and many of us crave it, a proper ground for a proper club with proper supporters. No wonder they are contenders for team of the season now. There is passion and energy running through that club, we have much to learn.
You have done well in the Prem that is for sure but don´t forget your lame support on a week to week basis in the Championship last season,no one jumping up and down then
I am not a Palace hater and wish all small clubs well in the big league so jog on and see you next year
UTA.................
.......
[quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Max Ripple[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: This is tantamount to cheating having to resort to messing around with the pitch and dodgy offsides, sounds a bit underhand. What's next putting banana skins under the oppositions feet? We should be playing fair if we're serious about the premier league. Not a popular with the supporters judging by all the empty seats either. Loads of us are off to palace next season, what they've done is worthy of a medal, we should take our hats off to them they are a fantastic club, amazing supporters, playing great attacking football, Albion just don't cut it and now we're trying to get in the play offs by cheating.[/p][/quote]I don't generally like replying to trolls on this site but I am going to in this instance as.... Surely any club will prepare a surface that suits their own style of play? If you a,re a big side with big front men and not a lot of ball players you will prepare a pitch that doesn't help good fluent passing (which might help the opposition) but one that just suits the long high ball game.. In cricket a team with good spinners will prepare a strip that will more easily take spin. A team with seamers will prepare one that is maybe a bit green and bowlers will get sideways movement off the surface. You may not like the Albion mate, but they are not cheating just making the best of their home ground. Which by the way, is better than Palaces all round.[/p][/quote]Wrong, the Amex has no atmosphere it's like a Saturday afternoon trip to an out of town retail park. Have a look at palaces supporters all jumping up and down en mass, it creates an intimidating, electric atmosphere we can only dream of at Albion. It's a party atmosphere and many of us crave it, a proper ground for a proper club with proper supporters. No wonder they are contenders for team of the season now. There is passion and energy running through that club, we have much to learn.[/p][/quote]You have done well in the Prem that is for sure but don´t forget your lame support on a week to week basis in the Championship last season,no one jumping up and down then I am not a Palace hater and wish all small clubs well in the big league so jog on and see you next year UTA................. ....... hannover seagull
  • Score: 3

7:35pm Mon 14 Apr 14

hannover seagull says...

Norfolk and way wrote:
Max Ripple wrote:
Norfolk and way wrote:
This is tantamount to cheating having to resort to messing around with the pitch and dodgy offsides, sounds a bit underhand. What's next putting banana skins under the oppositions feet? We should be playing fair if we're serious about the premier league. Not a popular with the supporters judging by all the empty seats either. Loads of us are off to palace next season, what they've done is worthy of a medal, we should take our hats off to them they are a fantastic club, amazing supporters, playing great attacking football, Albion just don't cut it and now we're trying to get in the play offs by cheating.
I don't generally like replying to trolls on this site but I am going to in this instance as....
Surely any club will prepare a surface that suits their own style of play? If you a,re a big side with big front men and not a lot of ball players you will prepare a pitch that doesn't help good fluent passing (which might help the opposition) but one that just suits the long high ball game..
In cricket a team with good spinners will prepare a strip that will more easily take spin. A team with seamers will prepare one that is maybe a bit green and bowlers will get sideways movement off the surface.
You may not like the Albion mate, but they are not cheating just making the best of their home ground. Which by the way, is better than Palaces all round.
Wrong, the Amex has no atmosphere it's like a Saturday afternoon trip to an out of town retail park. Have a look at palaces supporters all jumping up and down en mass, it creates an intimidating, electric atmosphere we can only dream of at Albion. It's a party atmosphere and many of us crave it, a proper ground for a proper club with proper supporters. No wonder they are contenders for team of the season now. There is passion and energy running through that club, we have much to learn.
You have done well in the Prem that is for sure but don´t forget your lame support on a week to week basis in the Championship last season,no one jumping up and down then
I am not a Palace hater and wish all small clubs well in the big league so jog on and see you next year
UTA.................
.......
[quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Max Ripple[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: This is tantamount to cheating having to resort to messing around with the pitch and dodgy offsides, sounds a bit underhand. What's next putting banana skins under the oppositions feet? We should be playing fair if we're serious about the premier league. Not a popular with the supporters judging by all the empty seats either. Loads of us are off to palace next season, what they've done is worthy of a medal, we should take our hats off to them they are a fantastic club, amazing supporters, playing great attacking football, Albion just don't cut it and now we're trying to get in the play offs by cheating.[/p][/quote]I don't generally like replying to trolls on this site but I am going to in this instance as.... Surely any club will prepare a surface that suits their own style of play? If you a,re a big side with big front men and not a lot of ball players you will prepare a pitch that doesn't help good fluent passing (which might help the opposition) but one that just suits the long high ball game.. In cricket a team with good spinners will prepare a strip that will more easily take spin. A team with seamers will prepare one that is maybe a bit green and bowlers will get sideways movement off the surface. You may not like the Albion mate, but they are not cheating just making the best of their home ground. Which by the way, is better than Palaces all round.[/p][/quote]Wrong, the Amex has no atmosphere it's like a Saturday afternoon trip to an out of town retail park. Have a look at palaces supporters all jumping up and down en mass, it creates an intimidating, electric atmosphere we can only dream of at Albion. It's a party atmosphere and many of us crave it, a proper ground for a proper club with proper supporters. No wonder they are contenders for team of the season now. There is passion and energy running through that club, we have much to learn.[/p][/quote]You have done well in the Prem that is for sure but don´t forget your lame support on a week to week basis in the Championship last season,no one jumping up and down then I am not a Palace hater and wish all small clubs well in the big league so jog on and see you next year UTA................. ....... hannover seagull
  • Score: 2

7:45pm Mon 14 Apr 14

albionbloke says...

Norfolk and way wrote:
Max Ripple wrote:
Norfolk and way wrote:
This is tantamount to cheating having to resort to messing around with the pitch and dodgy offsides, sounds a bit underhand. What's next putting banana skins under the oppositions feet? We should be playing fair if we're serious about the premier league. Not a popular with the supporters judging by all the empty seats either. Loads of us are off to palace next season, what they've done is worthy of a medal, we should take our hats off to them they are a fantastic club, amazing supporters, playing great attacking football, Albion just don't cut it and now we're trying to get in the play offs by cheating.
I don't generally like replying to trolls on this site but I am going to in this instance as....
Surely any club will prepare a surface that suits their own style of play? If you a,re a big side with big front men and not a lot of ball players you will prepare a pitch that doesn't help good fluent passing (which might help the opposition) but one that just suits the long high ball game..
In cricket a team with good spinners will prepare a strip that will more easily take spin. A team with seamers will prepare one that is maybe a bit green and bowlers will get sideways movement off the surface.
You may not like the Albion mate, but they are not cheating just making the best of their home ground. Which by the way, is better than Palaces all round.
Wrong, the Amex has no atmosphere it's like a Saturday afternoon trip to an out of town retail park. Have a look at palaces supporters all jumping up and down en mass, it creates an intimidating, electric atmosphere we can only dream of at Albion. It's a party atmosphere and many of us crave it, a proper ground for a proper club with proper supporters. No wonder they are contenders for team of the season now. There is passion and energy running through that club, we have much to learn.
Enough of the 'we' stuff, you are not one of 'us'. Just another waste of space.
[quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Max Ripple[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: This is tantamount to cheating having to resort to messing around with the pitch and dodgy offsides, sounds a bit underhand. What's next putting banana skins under the oppositions feet? We should be playing fair if we're serious about the premier league. Not a popular with the supporters judging by all the empty seats either. Loads of us are off to palace next season, what they've done is worthy of a medal, we should take our hats off to them they are a fantastic club, amazing supporters, playing great attacking football, Albion just don't cut it and now we're trying to get in the play offs by cheating.[/p][/quote]I don't generally like replying to trolls on this site but I am going to in this instance as.... Surely any club will prepare a surface that suits their own style of play? If you a,re a big side with big front men and not a lot of ball players you will prepare a pitch that doesn't help good fluent passing (which might help the opposition) but one that just suits the long high ball game.. In cricket a team with good spinners will prepare a strip that will more easily take spin. A team with seamers will prepare one that is maybe a bit green and bowlers will get sideways movement off the surface. You may not like the Albion mate, but they are not cheating just making the best of their home ground. Which by the way, is better than Palaces all round.[/p][/quote]Wrong, the Amex has no atmosphere it's like a Saturday afternoon trip to an out of town retail park. Have a look at palaces supporters all jumping up and down en mass, it creates an intimidating, electric atmosphere we can only dream of at Albion. It's a party atmosphere and many of us crave it, a proper ground for a proper club with proper supporters. No wonder they are contenders for team of the season now. There is passion and energy running through that club, we have much to learn.[/p][/quote]Enough of the 'we' stuff, you are not one of 'us'. Just another waste of space. albionbloke
  • Score: 5

7:49pm Mon 14 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

hannover seagull wrote:
Norfolk and way wrote:
Max Ripple wrote:
Norfolk and way wrote:
This is tantamount to cheating having to resort to messing around with the pitch and dodgy offsides, sounds a bit underhand. What's next putting banana skins under the oppositions feet? We should be playing fair if we're serious about the premier league. Not a popular with the supporters judging by all the empty seats either. Loads of us are off to palace next season, what they've done is worthy of a medal, we should take our hats off to them they are a fantastic club, amazing supporters, playing great attacking football, Albion just don't cut it and now we're trying to get in the play offs by cheating.
I don't generally like replying to trolls on this site but I am going to in this instance as....
Surely any club will prepare a surface that suits their own style of play? If you a,re a big side with big front men and not a lot of ball players you will prepare a pitch that doesn't help good fluent passing (which might help the opposition) but one that just suits the long high ball game..
In cricket a team with good spinners will prepare a strip that will more easily take spin. A team with seamers will prepare one that is maybe a bit green and bowlers will get sideways movement off the surface.
You may not like the Albion mate, but they are not cheating just making the best of their home ground. Which by the way, is better than Palaces all round.
Wrong, the Amex has no atmosphere it's like a Saturday afternoon trip to an out of town retail park. Have a look at palaces supporters all jumping up and down en mass, it creates an intimidating, electric atmosphere we can only dream of at Albion. It's a party atmosphere and many of us crave it, a proper ground for a proper club with proper supporters. No wonder they are contenders for team of the season now. There is passion and energy running through that club, we have much to learn.
You have done well in the Prem that is for sure but don´t forget your lame support on a week to week basis in the Championship last season,no one jumping up and down then
I am not a Palace hater and wish all small clubs well in the big league so jog on and see you next year
UTA.................

.......
I don't undersdtand how a Palace fan can have any clue as to what the atmosphere is like at the Amex. I too am not a Palace hater, never have been and never will be, and I think they just might scrape thru to survival but it does look a big ask.
One thing this poster is right about tho, the Palace fans do make a noise going by what I see on TV over here..
[quote][p][bold]hannover seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Max Ripple[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: This is tantamount to cheating having to resort to messing around with the pitch and dodgy offsides, sounds a bit underhand. What's next putting banana skins under the oppositions feet? We should be playing fair if we're serious about the premier league. Not a popular with the supporters judging by all the empty seats either. Loads of us are off to palace next season, what they've done is worthy of a medal, we should take our hats off to them they are a fantastic club, amazing supporters, playing great attacking football, Albion just don't cut it and now we're trying to get in the play offs by cheating.[/p][/quote]I don't generally like replying to trolls on this site but I am going to in this instance as.... Surely any club will prepare a surface that suits their own style of play? If you a,re a big side with big front men and not a lot of ball players you will prepare a pitch that doesn't help good fluent passing (which might help the opposition) but one that just suits the long high ball game.. In cricket a team with good spinners will prepare a strip that will more easily take spin. A team with seamers will prepare one that is maybe a bit green and bowlers will get sideways movement off the surface. You may not like the Albion mate, but they are not cheating just making the best of their home ground. Which by the way, is better than Palaces all round.[/p][/quote]Wrong, the Amex has no atmosphere it's like a Saturday afternoon trip to an out of town retail park. Have a look at palaces supporters all jumping up and down en mass, it creates an intimidating, electric atmosphere we can only dream of at Albion. It's a party atmosphere and many of us crave it, a proper ground for a proper club with proper supporters. No wonder they are contenders for team of the season now. There is passion and energy running through that club, we have much to learn.[/p][/quote]You have done well in the Prem that is for sure but don´t forget your lame support on a week to week basis in the Championship last season,no one jumping up and down then I am not a Palace hater and wish all small clubs well in the big league so jog on and see you next year UTA................. .......[/p][/quote]I don't undersdtand how a Palace fan can have any clue as to what the atmosphere is like at the Amex. I too am not a Palace hater, never have been and never will be, and I think they just might scrape thru to survival but it does look a big ask. One thing this poster is right about tho, the Palace fans do make a noise going by what I see on TV over here.. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

9:45pm Mon 14 Apr 14

brightonup says...

Norfolk and way wrote:
Max Ripple wrote:
Norfolk and way wrote:
This is tantamount to cheating having to resort to messing around with the pitch and dodgy offsides, sounds a bit underhand. What's next putting banana skins under the oppositions feet? We should be playing fair if we're serious about the premier league. Not a popular with the supporters judging by all the empty seats either. Loads of us are off to palace next season, what they've done is worthy of a medal, we should take our hats off to them they are a fantastic club, amazing supporters, playing great attacking football, Albion just don't cut it and now we're trying to get in the play offs by cheating.
I don't generally like replying to trolls on this site but I am going to in this instance as....
Surely any club will prepare a surface that suits their own style of play? If you a,re a big side with big front men and not a lot of ball players you will prepare a pitch that doesn't help good fluent passing (which might help the opposition) but one that just suits the long high ball game..
In cricket a team with good spinners will prepare a strip that will more easily take spin. A team with seamers will prepare one that is maybe a bit green and bowlers will get sideways movement off the surface.
You may not like the Albion mate, but they are not cheating just making the best of their home ground. Which by the way, is better than Palaces all round.
Wrong, the Amex has no atmosphere it's like a Saturday afternoon trip to an out of town retail park. Have a look at palaces supporters all jumping up and down en mass, it creates an intimidating, electric atmosphere we can only dream of at Albion. It's a party atmosphere and many of us crave it, a proper ground for a proper club with proper supporters. No wonder they are contenders for team of the season now. There is passion and energy running through that club, we have much to learn.
Why anyone opts to correspond directly to Crystal Palace rejects is beyond me.... They LOVE the attention and WALLOW in the abuse, so what is the point?
[quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Max Ripple[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: This is tantamount to cheating having to resort to messing around with the pitch and dodgy offsides, sounds a bit underhand. What's next putting banana skins under the oppositions feet? We should be playing fair if we're serious about the premier league. Not a popular with the supporters judging by all the empty seats either. Loads of us are off to palace next season, what they've done is worthy of a medal, we should take our hats off to them they are a fantastic club, amazing supporters, playing great attacking football, Albion just don't cut it and now we're trying to get in the play offs by cheating.[/p][/quote]I don't generally like replying to trolls on this site but I am going to in this instance as.... Surely any club will prepare a surface that suits their own style of play? If you a,re a big side with big front men and not a lot of ball players you will prepare a pitch that doesn't help good fluent passing (which might help the opposition) but one that just suits the long high ball game.. In cricket a team with good spinners will prepare a strip that will more easily take spin. A team with seamers will prepare one that is maybe a bit green and bowlers will get sideways movement off the surface. You may not like the Albion mate, but they are not cheating just making the best of their home ground. Which by the way, is better than Palaces all round.[/p][/quote]Wrong, the Amex has no atmosphere it's like a Saturday afternoon trip to an out of town retail park. Have a look at palaces supporters all jumping up and down en mass, it creates an intimidating, electric atmosphere we can only dream of at Albion. It's a party atmosphere and many of us crave it, a proper ground for a proper club with proper supporters. No wonder they are contenders for team of the season now. There is passion and energy running through that club, we have much to learn.[/p][/quote]Why anyone opts to correspond directly to Crystal Palace rejects is beyond me.... They LOVE the attention and WALLOW in the abuse, so what is the point? brightonup
  • Score: 4

11:00pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Aldrington Halt says...

mark by the sea wrote:
tug509 wrote:
str8outtaDC ,B rian Tawses left foot ,both you lads seem to share the same opinions ,and i am no different ,we have one of the best new stadiums in Europe with a great fanbase to fill it ,Tony Bloom is every supporters idea of the perfect owner ,he loves The Albion as much as the rest of us ,even the Charlton lads are envious of that (having a true supporter as Chairman) .
I have done my share of moaning about Oscar and Nathan ,but i dont share the view that we should replace him . He has played at the highest level and is second to none for getting the best from the DS lads,but until recently i havn`t always agreed on his line ups ,just my personal opinion ,i like 2 wide and 2 forward ,as you say you cant play that way every game ,but even with the long list of injuries we started with ,we played far too defensively at home sometimes .There`s a few of us on here that might seem impatient ,but that is only because when we play an attacking set up ,we are hard to live with ,and thats about as positive as you can get ,with 4 games left i hope we dont change it . UTA
Tug you disagree with my comments? The change of formation is long over due, and you were wanting lingard to play up front as I did,
As you say our set up at the Amex against really poor sides has been awful,
As for phantoms comment about QPR , YOU clearly were not at the game, it was the most one sided games at the Amex for some time..
Poor finishing and TK were the reasons we won that! Same as when we lost to Wigan, we have to be losing to actually have a go! That game we should have won.
The problem with comments like this is some people are seeing the cup half empty and are obsessed with those 'not at the game'. Sounds like a case of fan fascism..
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: str8outtaDC ,B rian Tawses left foot ,both you lads seem to share the same opinions ,and i am no different ,we have one of the best new stadiums in Europe with a great fanbase to fill it ,Tony Bloom is every supporters idea of the perfect owner ,he loves The Albion as much as the rest of us ,even the Charlton lads are envious of that (having a true supporter as Chairman) . I have done my share of moaning about Oscar and Nathan ,but i dont share the view that we should replace him . He has played at the highest level and is second to none for getting the best from the DS lads,but until recently i havn`t always agreed on his line ups ,just my personal opinion ,i like 2 wide and 2 forward ,as you say you cant play that way every game ,but even with the long list of injuries we started with ,we played far too defensively at home sometimes .There`s a few of us on here that might seem impatient ,but that is only because when we play an attacking set up ,we are hard to live with ,and thats about as positive as you can get ,with 4 games left i hope we dont change it . UTA[/p][/quote]Tug you disagree with my comments? The change of formation is long over due, and you were wanting lingard to play up front as I did, As you say our set up at the Amex against really poor sides has been awful, As for phantoms comment about QPR , YOU clearly were not at the game, it was the most one sided games at the Amex for some time.. Poor finishing and TK were the reasons we won that! Same as when we lost to Wigan, we have to be losing to actually have a go! That game we should have won.[/p][/quote]The problem with comments like this is some people are seeing the cup half empty and are obsessed with those 'not at the game'. Sounds like a case of fan fascism.. Aldrington Halt
  • Score: 4

2:06pm Tue 15 Apr 14

AburridoEnTrabajo says...

mark by the sea wrote:
elljam wrote:
Nice of Jones to finally admit that the tempo has been too slow in previous games.
Yes and claiming it's down to the pitch is a laugh!
Someone has either told OG to be more positive , or the penny has dropped,
With crofts back next season, I have to wonder where ince will get a game?
He can't play in a conventional centre two with Stephens, he lacks creativity, mobility .. I can see him covering as a central defender next season, maybe along side upson? But it's fair to say the fane are finally getting real football after safety first for 40 games..
I would imagine cms can't wait for next season , and finally play as a two with ulloa, then we will see him play to his strengths ...
FIANL word on Hoskins , if he can't make the 18 when we had Buckley not fit, will he get a contract?
Buckley back in training today! More attacking options for Friday!,
Uta
Ince, Crofts and Stephens will be rotated. Ince is the more defensive of the three while Crofts is the most attacking, but they are all capable of adapting their game.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elljam[/bold] wrote: Nice of Jones to finally admit that the tempo has been too slow in previous games.[/p][/quote]Yes and claiming it's down to the pitch is a laugh! Someone has either told OG to be more positive , or the penny has dropped, With crofts back next season, I have to wonder where ince will get a game? He can't play in a conventional centre two with Stephens, he lacks creativity, mobility .. I can see him covering as a central defender next season, maybe along side upson? But it's fair to say the fane are finally getting real football after safety first for 40 games.. I would imagine cms can't wait for next season , and finally play as a two with ulloa, then we will see him play to his strengths ... FIANL word on Hoskins , if he can't make the 18 when we had Buckley not fit, will he get a contract? Buckley back in training today! More attacking options for Friday!, Uta[/p][/quote]Ince, Crofts and Stephens will be rotated. Ince is the more defensive of the three while Crofts is the most attacking, but they are all capable of adapting their game. AburridoEnTrabajo
  • Score: 1

2:20pm Tue 15 Apr 14

AburridoEnTrabajo says...

mark by the sea wrote:
B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up
Really , such a great coach? Played ulloa up front with negative tactics for 40 odd games, when everyone could see ulloa was not happy .. We go with lingard alongside and create goal scoring opportunities.. Not shots from 30 yards, but one on ones .. Ulloa has scored two in two, I can't remember him having more than one up to then this season. Hardly a great mind when 20,000 have wanted it for best part of two years.
Err, Lingard only came in on loan a month ago, and before XMas it was Barnes on his own while Ulloa was out with a broken foot!

Oscar has always said he wants Leo up front with at least one midfielder working close to him. He tried it with Buckley and it occasionally worked but Buckley was always injured. He also got Crofts playing further forward with a lot of success but then he got injured. Now he has got Lingard doing it and it is working again (hopefully Lingard won't get injured!) But it goes toshow that the tactics work, but bad luck with injuries has prevented Oscar from implementing them consistently.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: I really can't believe some of the comments on here. We are 6th in the league, have very promising young players making the first team, a fabulous new ground, top class training facilities on the way and a head coach who is attracting attention from premier league clubs and 'money men' who ensure the club is run on a financially viable manner, The result? A site full of moaners who seemingly have nothing positive to say about the club they supposedly support ! Armchair tacticians who apparently know more about formations and tactics than a head coach who played and coached with one of Europe's top clubs. God Almighty - you couldn't make it up[/p][/quote]Really , such a great coach? Played ulloa up front with negative tactics for 40 odd games, when everyone could see ulloa was not happy .. We go with lingard alongside and create goal scoring opportunities.. Not shots from 30 yards, but one on ones .. Ulloa has scored two in two, I can't remember him having more than one up to then this season. Hardly a great mind when 20,000 have wanted it for best part of two years.[/p][/quote]Err, Lingard only came in on loan a month ago, and before XMas it was Barnes on his own while Ulloa was out with a broken foot! Oscar has always said he wants Leo up front with at least one midfielder working close to him. He tried it with Buckley and it occasionally worked but Buckley was always injured. He also got Crofts playing further forward with a lot of success but then he got injured. Now he has got Lingard doing it and it is working again (hopefully Lingard won't get injured!) But it goes toshow that the tactics work, but bad luck with injuries has prevented Oscar from implementing them consistently. AburridoEnTrabajo
  • Score: 4

8:58pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Never_Wrong says...

Expect to play on a cabbage patch at Huddersfield on Friday then Nathan. Nice one.
Expect to play on a cabbage patch at Huddersfield on Friday then Nathan. Nice one. Never_Wrong
  • Score: 0

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