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Albion talking point: What was missing against Blackpool?

The Argus: Leo Ulloa battles with the Blackpool defence today Leo Ulloa battles with the Blackpool defence today

Albion let slip a chance to strengthen their play-off position today.

But what do you think was missing from their performance in a frustrating 1-1 draw at home to Blackpool?

The Seagulls struggled to create clear-cut chances against a side battling against the drop.

But why do you reckon they were unable to test Seasiders keeper Matt Gilks more often?

Would you change anything for the visit of Yeovil on Friday.

We’d like to get your reaction – and how you feel know about the play-off race.

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5:38pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Gazza by the sea says...

Composure. Vision. Guile. Passion.
Composure. Vision. Guile. Passion. Gazza by the sea
  • Score: 11

5:50pm Mon 21 Apr 14

wiseman of hove says...

Some decent corners for a start.
Some decent corners for a start. wiseman of hove
  • Score: 12

5:51pm Mon 21 Apr 14

ringtone says...

Apart from Arnie and Vegas, I would say a second goal.

But i am probably wrong as usual
Apart from Arnie and Vegas, I would say a second goal. But i am probably wrong as usual ringtone
  • Score: 11

5:51pm Mon 21 Apr 14

hannover seagull says...

Gazza by the sea wrote:
Composure. Vision. Guile. Passion.
No excuses ,poor performance by the sound of it all round
Didn´t get into any sort of flow and nerves got the better of them although this is the way of the C´Ship
Highlight of the day, Gary Chivers talking about our manager Sergio Garcia,
twice
Not the end of the world but some serious work to do even to stay in with a chance
No doubt the assasins will follow my post but we have to hang on in there
UTA......
[quote][p][bold]Gazza by the sea[/bold] wrote: Composure. Vision. Guile. Passion.[/p][/quote]No excuses ,poor performance by the sound of it all round Didn´t get into any sort of flow and nerves got the better of them although this is the way of the C´Ship Highlight of the day, Gary Chivers talking about our manager Sergio Garcia, twice Not the end of the world but some serious work to do even to stay in with a chance No doubt the assasins will follow my post but we have to hang on in there UTA...... hannover seagull
  • Score: 7

5:57pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Alfie T says...

Andrews out and Ince in.
Andrews out and Ince in. Alfie T
  • Score: 20

5:59pm Mon 21 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

Desire from the manager, passionless performance..
Substitutions were wrong, cms is way off match ready, .. Big question is are we really serious about going up? We simply are not creative in situations.
The game called out for a creative player .. Augustin would have been perfect, he was in the casino in the marina last night, no doubt enjoying his 10k a week..
So disheartened tonight.
Desire from the manager, passionless performance.. Substitutions were wrong, cms is way off match ready, .. Big question is are we really serious about going up? We simply are not creative in situations. The game called out for a creative player .. Augustin would have been perfect, he was in the casino in the marina last night, no doubt enjoying his 10k a week.. So disheartened tonight. mark by the sea
  • Score: -8

6:03pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Norfolk and way says...

Quality, commitment, desire, attitude, decent support, decent management, decent playing budget (responsible for all the other things). We lack all of these, there's probably some things I've forgotten but hey ho.
Quality, commitment, desire, attitude, decent support, decent management, decent playing budget (responsible for all the other things). We lack all of these, there's probably some things I've forgotten but hey ho. Norfolk and way
  • Score: -11

6:04pm Mon 21 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

Alfie T wrote:
Andrews out and Ince in.
Yes let's have less creative players, shocking performance again at home.
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: Andrews out and Ince in.[/p][/quote]Yes let's have less creative players, shocking performance again at home. mark by the sea
  • Score: 1

6:07pm Mon 21 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

We wanted three points but didn't get them, but we did get a point and when in the chase for a play-off place, the most important thing is not to lose at this stage of the season. Ipswich and Bournemouth had the same problem, wanted all three but got just one. Reading will start their match with exactly the same wish tomorrow. Nothing is decided.

It is probably a good idea to stay away from this forum for two or three days, let the trolls have it to themselves, and let them have at it. If they are on their own at least they won't annoy any real fan.
We wanted three points but didn't get them, but we did get a point and when in the chase for a play-off place, the most important thing is not to lose at this stage of the season. Ipswich and Bournemouth had the same problem, wanted all three but got just one. Reading will start their match with exactly the same wish tomorrow. Nothing is decided. It is probably a good idea to stay away from this forum for two or three days, let the trolls have it to themselves, and let them have at it. If they are on their own at least they won't annoy any real fan. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 10

6:08pm Mon 21 Apr 14

wiseman of hove says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Desire from the manager, passionless performance..
Substitutions were wrong, cms is way off match ready, .. Big question is are we really serious about going up? We simply are not creative in situations.
The game called out for a creative player .. Augustin would have been perfect, he was in the casino in the marina last night, no doubt enjoying his 10k a week..
So disheartened tonight.
I certainly did not disagree with March disappearing at halftime to be replaced by Buckley. I don't know if March was injured or unwell but he was moving around as if he had lead in his boots.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Desire from the manager, passionless performance.. Substitutions were wrong, cms is way off match ready, .. Big question is are we really serious about going up? We simply are not creative in situations. The game called out for a creative player .. Augustin would have been perfect, he was in the casino in the marina last night, no doubt enjoying his 10k a week.. So disheartened tonight.[/p][/quote]I certainly did not disagree with March disappearing at halftime to be replaced by Buckley. I don't know if March was injured or unwell but he was moving around as if he had lead in his boots. wiseman of hove
  • Score: 7

6:13pm Mon 21 Apr 14

saraman says...

Everything was missing. I haven't felt so deflated since the Barnsley home defeat. Need M'brough to nick a point off of Reading tomorrow night.
Everything was missing. I haven't felt so deflated since the Barnsley home defeat. Need M'brough to nick a point off of Reading tomorrow night. saraman
  • Score: 13

6:16pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Norfolk and way says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
We wanted three points but didn't get them, but we did get a point and when in the chase for a play-off place, the most important thing is not to lose at this stage of the season. Ipswich and Bournemouth had the same problem, wanted all three but got just one. Reading will start their match with exactly the same wish tomorrow. Nothing is decided.

It is probably a good idea to stay away from this forum for two or three days, let the trolls have it to themselves, and let them have at it. If they are on their own at least they won't annoy any real fan.
You trolls monopolise this site nearly every day, it'd be nice for us real supporters to discuss the continuing problems at the Albion in peace.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: We wanted three points but didn't get them, but we did get a point and when in the chase for a play-off place, the most important thing is not to lose at this stage of the season. Ipswich and Bournemouth had the same problem, wanted all three but got just one. Reading will start their match with exactly the same wish tomorrow. Nothing is decided. It is probably a good idea to stay away from this forum for two or three days, let the trolls have it to themselves, and let them have at it. If they are on their own at least they won't annoy any real fan.[/p][/quote]You trolls monopolise this site nearly every day, it'd be nice for us real supporters to discuss the continuing problems at the Albion in peace. Norfolk and way
  • Score: 0

6:16pm Mon 21 Apr 14

MikeTheMan says...

As others have said, desire, passion, commitment, attitude etc. Beyond all that though there is a complete lack of genuine creativity in this team - and a total lack of real quality.
As others have said, desire, passion, commitment, attitude etc. Beyond all that though there is a complete lack of genuine creativity in this team - and a total lack of real quality. MikeTheMan
  • Score: 15

6:17pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Billywhizz40 says...

Passion, desire to win. Ulloa looked uninterested again today, not mobile enough. What is it with lua lua can't he stay on his feet.
Some poor crossing and corners were far too long.
Apart from one mistake, defence looked good. Need some creativity and speed still. Play offs still in our hands, UTA!
Passion, desire to win. Ulloa looked uninterested again today, not mobile enough. What is it with lua lua can't he stay on his feet. Some poor crossing and corners were far too long. Apart from one mistake, defence looked good. Need some creativity and speed still. Play offs still in our hands, UTA! Billywhizz40
  • Score: 4

6:18pm Mon 21 Apr 14

bruce beckett says...

I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.
I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season. bruce beckett
  • Score: 10

6:18pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Alan G Skinner says...

Not a good performance, no hiding that, but we still should have won. Stephens cracker should have been enough. On the face of it Dobbie's strike was very good. However the defending leading up to it was frankly comical. We had two or three opportunities to get the ball away before Dobbie took possession, I am not one to point the finger at individuals but for me the blame does lie squarely at the feet of........ Doesn't matter, very angry today a wonderful opportunity thrown away. Astonishingly should Middlesborough get anything tomorrow, it is still in our own hands!!
Not a good performance, no hiding that, but we still should have won. Stephens cracker should have been enough. On the face of it Dobbie's strike was very good. However the defending leading up to it was frankly comical. We had two or three opportunities to get the ball away before Dobbie took possession, I am not one to point the finger at individuals but for me the blame does lie squarely at the feet of........ Doesn't matter, very angry today a wonderful opportunity thrown away. Astonishingly should Middlesborough get anything tomorrow, it is still in our own hands!! Alan G Skinner
  • Score: 24

6:22pm Mon 21 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
We wanted three points but didn't get them, but we did get a point and when in the chase for a play-off place, the most important thing is not to lose at this stage of the season. Ipswich and Bournemouth had the same problem, wanted all three but got just one. Reading will start their match with exactly the same wish tomorrow. Nothing is decided.

It is probably a good idea to stay away from this forum for two or three days, let the trolls have it to themselves, and let them have at it. If they are on their own at least they won't annoy any real fan.
What nonsense you talk, you were not there yet you talk the talk, watch forest coming up from the depth, Reading and Bournemouth shared the points because they are both chasing a play off spot!
How the hell can you say everything is ok when we struggled today against Blackpool who have been in free fall for 15 games!
2 wins from last 9 games, not good enough.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: We wanted three points but didn't get them, but we did get a point and when in the chase for a play-off place, the most important thing is not to lose at this stage of the season. Ipswich and Bournemouth had the same problem, wanted all three but got just one. Reading will start their match with exactly the same wish tomorrow. Nothing is decided. It is probably a good idea to stay away from this forum for two or three days, let the trolls have it to themselves, and let them have at it. If they are on their own at least they won't annoy any real fan.[/p][/quote]What nonsense you talk, you were not there yet you talk the talk, watch forest coming up from the depth, Reading and Bournemouth shared the points because they are both chasing a play off spot! How the hell can you say everything is ok when we struggled today against Blackpool who have been in free fall for 15 games! 2 wins from last 9 games, not good enough. mark by the sea
  • Score: 18

6:24pm Mon 21 Apr 14

reagull says...

Lost count how many times Andrews gave the ball away, Is the training pitch a third bigger than the Amex pitch, how can nearly every free kick and corner be over hit? I would not be allowed to do my job that badly and get away with it!
Lost count how many times Andrews gave the ball away, Is the training pitch a third bigger than the Amex pitch, how can nearly every free kick and corner be over hit? I would not be allowed to do my job that badly and get away with it! reagull
  • Score: 26

6:24pm Mon 21 Apr 14

saraman says...

bruce beckett wrote:
I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.
Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll.
Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.
[quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll. Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan. saraman
  • Score: 8

6:24pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Neville says...

I was at the match as per normal and very frustrated ,as per normal. The first half was like a practice session with no tempo or attacking intent. Balls misplaced and corners over hit,free kicks passed backwards and no impetus. Every time Andrews was given the ball he took three touches or more and this slowed the movement down,again normally passed back or sideways.Referee inconsistent and time wasting the norm. Blackpool had player injured for a good 4 mins and only 2 mins added time in the first half,don't understand but again seems to be the norm these days.
Second half a bit better and some good crosses from Stephens but never onto Ulloas head. Possession again lots of but again predominantly in our own half and we never really looked like scoring.
We just don't have a plan B and this was same with GP,too many players off form today,with exception of TK,GG,MU,SW and DS.
All season I have hoped for a really good performance,the only one I can recall is against Wigan when it was too late. We just cannot beat the lower teams and we just lack quality in the final third I am afraid.
NFrst just hitting form and its not in our hands now,just hope this wasn't our last chance gone.
I was at the match as per normal and very frustrated ,as per normal. The first half was like a practice session with no tempo or attacking intent. Balls misplaced and corners over hit,free kicks passed backwards and no impetus. Every time Andrews was given the ball he took three touches or more and this slowed the movement down,again normally passed back or sideways.Referee inconsistent and time wasting the norm. Blackpool had player injured for a good 4 mins and only 2 mins added time in the first half,don't understand but again seems to be the norm these days. Second half a bit better and some good crosses from Stephens but never onto Ulloas head. Possession again lots of but again predominantly in our own half and we never really looked like scoring. We just don't have a plan B and this was same with GP,too many players off form today,with exception of TK,GG,MU,SW and DS. All season I have hoped for a really good performance,the only one I can recall is against Wigan when it was too late. We just cannot beat the lower teams and we just lack quality in the final third I am afraid. NFrst just hitting form and its not in our hands now,just hope this wasn't our last chance gone. Neville
  • Score: 15

6:26pm Mon 21 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

saraman wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.
Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll.
Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.
Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season
[quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll. Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.[/p][/quote]Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season mark by the sea
  • Score: -1

6:27pm Mon 21 Apr 14

wiseman of hove says...

bruce beckett wrote:
I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.
Well said - a surprisingly disappointing comment from Vegas whose comments are usually measured and sensible.
[quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.[/p][/quote]Well said - a surprisingly disappointing comment from Vegas whose comments are usually measured and sensible. wiseman of hove
  • Score: 3

6:34pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Bha1901ch says...

Simply not good enough
No passion no desire
Lets put a true bha supporter in the boardroom
We need a voice in there
Simply not good enough No passion no desire Lets put a true bha supporter in the boardroom We need a voice in there Bha1901ch
  • Score: 6

6:37pm Mon 21 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

saraman wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.
Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll.
Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.
I never for a moment thought, or think, that the majority on this forum are trolls, just the usual few. Voicing a genuine dissapointment is very understandable, but is that what you honestly think a handfull on here are doing?
[quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll. Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.[/p][/quote]I never for a moment thought, or think, that the majority on this forum are trolls, just the usual few. Voicing a genuine dissapointment is very understandable, but is that what you honestly think a handfull on here are doing? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 5

6:42pm Mon 21 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

wiseman of hove wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Desire from the manager, passionless performance..
Substitutions were wrong, cms is way off match ready, .. Big question is are we really serious about going up? We simply are not creative in situations.
The game called out for a creative player .. Augustin would have been perfect, he was in the casino in the marina last night, no doubt enjoying his 10k a week..
So disheartened tonight.
I certainly did not disagree with March disappearing at halftime to be replaced by Buckley. I don't know if March was injured or unwell but he was moving around as if he had lead in his boots.
He should have come off, however our shape became all over the shop, not sure when cms came on it was a good move , we became untidy going forward.
[quote][p][bold]wiseman of hove[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Desire from the manager, passionless performance.. Substitutions were wrong, cms is way off match ready, .. Big question is are we really serious about going up? We simply are not creative in situations. The game called out for a creative player .. Augustin would have been perfect, he was in the casino in the marina last night, no doubt enjoying his 10k a week.. So disheartened tonight.[/p][/quote]I certainly did not disagree with March disappearing at halftime to be replaced by Buckley. I don't know if March was injured or unwell but he was moving around as if he had lead in his boots.[/p][/quote]He should have come off, however our shape became all over the shop, not sure when cms came on it was a good move , we became untidy going forward. mark by the sea
  • Score: -1

6:43pm Mon 21 Apr 14

ib1980 says...

Completely agree that the performance today was poor but some of the fans, especially around me in the upper west need to take a long hard look at themselves. They were moaning and snipping from the first few minutes of the game. If you can't support the team don't come along!
Completely agree that the performance today was poor but some of the fans, especially around me in the upper west need to take a long hard look at themselves. They were moaning and snipping from the first few minutes of the game. If you can't support the team don't come along! ib1980
  • Score: 5

6:44pm Mon 21 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
saraman wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.
Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll.
Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.
I never for a moment thought, or think, that the majority on this forum are trolls, just the usual few. Voicing a genuine dissapointment is very understandable, but is that what you honestly think a handfull on here are doing?
But your voicing a opinion based on what exactly? We were rubbish , are we trolls for going ? Fans today tried to G them up, but some looked like they wanted a holiday rather than the play offs
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll. Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.[/p][/quote]I never for a moment thought, or think, that the majority on this forum are trolls, just the usual few. Voicing a genuine dissapointment is very understandable, but is that what you honestly think a handfull on here are doing?[/p][/quote]But your voicing a opinion based on what exactly? We were rubbish , are we trolls for going ? Fans today tried to G them up, but some looked like they wanted a holiday rather than the play offs mark by the sea
  • Score: -3

6:46pm Mon 21 Apr 14

To baldly go says...

Disappointed big time, wtf was that, we looked every bit like the team about to be relegated not Blackpool! Why take off LuaLua when all our chances stemmed from him getting bundled over etc, Cms needed to be on yes but take Andrews off for him not LuaLua! Why don't we shoot more, the amount of times we played it around just outside the box when all it takes is someone to have a go (Dobbie) is so frustrating, the Mrs came along today, she knows sweet fa about football but after 20 minutes she commented why don't we shoot? says it all!
I think we are missing Ince? must be some dead leg he's had! His power in front of the defence would have been vital today! instead we had Andrews who had a bad game imo.
March was non existent, at least OG noticed that and changed it at half time, and why change Lingard for Lopez with 3 minutes left!
What will we do Friday against Yeovil? Pressure is now on us not to lose that one but I fear an embarrassment coming our way.
Will be there again cheering the lads on but FFS don't we make it hard. UTA
Disappointed big time, wtf was that, we looked every bit like the team about to be relegated not Blackpool! Why take off LuaLua when all our chances stemmed from him getting bundled over etc, Cms needed to be on yes but take Andrews off for him not LuaLua! Why don't we shoot more, the amount of times we played it around just outside the box when all it takes is someone to have a go (Dobbie) is so frustrating, the Mrs came along today, she knows sweet fa about football but after 20 minutes she commented why don't we shoot? says it all! I think we are missing Ince? must be some dead leg he's had! His power in front of the defence would have been vital today! instead we had Andrews who had a bad game imo. March was non existent, at least OG noticed that and changed it at half time, and why change Lingard for Lopez with 3 minutes left! What will we do Friday against Yeovil? Pressure is now on us not to lose that one but I fear an embarrassment coming our way. Will be there again cheering the lads on but FFS don't we make it hard. UTA To baldly go
  • Score: 13

6:54pm Mon 21 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

How many of you think that Dunk is a, 'vile freeloader,' those that do are trolls.
How many of you think that Oscar should be fired, those that do are trolls.
How many of you think it amusing when Brighton lose, or at least don't win a match we ought to, those that do are trolls.
How many of you accuse the players of, 'purpously losing to project their jobs,' those that do are trolls.
How many of you would say that Brighton should have simply ignored the FFP rules, spent money we don't have, even tho we lost millions in the double digits, those that do are trolls.
How many of you think that Barber is at the root of ANY problem we have to endure, those that do are trolls.

As I said the vast majority on this forum are fans and not trolls, and the difference is that the fans give honest and valid opinions, the trolls just can't wait for a result not to be to our liking.
How many of you think that Dunk is a, 'vile freeloader,' those that do are trolls. How many of you think that Oscar should be fired, those that do are trolls. How many of you think it amusing when Brighton lose, or at least don't win a match we ought to, those that do are trolls. How many of you accuse the players of, 'purpously losing to project their jobs,' those that do are trolls. How many of you would say that Brighton should have simply ignored the FFP rules, spent money we don't have, even tho we lost millions in the double digits, those that do are trolls. How many of you think that Barber is at the root of ANY problem we have to endure, those that do are trolls. As I said the vast majority on this forum are fans and not trolls, and the difference is that the fans give honest and valid opinions, the trolls just can't wait for a result not to be to our liking. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -2

6:56pm Mon 21 Apr 14

arc12 says...

A bit of passion from the Manager for a start ! It looked like Oscar was getting ready for his holidays rather than trying to motivate the players. And then a few shots on target wouldn't go amiss - 1 in the first half and 2 or 3 in the second. I for one expected today to see the Blackpool keeper performing heroics to keep his side in the game but he could have sat there reading a book he had so little to do. Opportunity wasted.
A bit of passion from the Manager for a start ! It looked like Oscar was getting ready for his holidays rather than trying to motivate the players. And then a few shots on target wouldn't go amiss - 1 in the first half and 2 or 3 in the second. I for one expected today to see the Blackpool keeper performing heroics to keep his side in the game but he could have sat there reading a book he had so little to do. Opportunity wasted. arc12
  • Score: 10

6:58pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Bha1901ch says...

Lets see what happens tomorrow night
Yeovil will be playing for pride
If we see no passion, or desire on friday night
Then its time for change
Clear out the hangers on taking big bucks for a few hours training a week they need to relise the real world ! If we all turned up to work and keep under acihieving then a P45 would soon be presented
Lets get players, management and board members ( excluding Mr Bloom) who love this club like the 20+ thousand who turn out every home game and the fans who travel miles to away games
We will get to the premiership when we have the structure in the club to be as passionate as us true fans
Lets see what happens tomorrow night Yeovil will be playing for pride If we see no passion, or desire on friday night Then its time for change Clear out the hangers on taking big bucks for a few hours training a week they need to relise the real world ! If we all turned up to work and keep under acihieving then a P45 would soon be presented Lets get players, management and board members ( excluding Mr Bloom) who love this club like the 20+ thousand who turn out every home game and the fans who travel miles to away games We will get to the premiership when we have the structure in the club to be as passionate as us true fans Bha1901ch
  • Score: 10

7:02pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Bha1901ch says...

Well done Burnley
Well done Burnley Bha1901ch
  • Score: 12

7:04pm Mon 21 Apr 14

To baldly go says...

ib1980 wrote:
Completely agree that the performance today was poor but some of the fans, especially around me in the upper west need to take a long hard look at themselves. They were moaning and snipping from the first few minutes of the game. If you can't support the team don't come along!
I think you will find most supporters could see the usual thing happening even after 5 minutes, I sit in the north and the frustration at how bad we are playing could be felt almost straight away! There just seems to be no passion in the team, no desire, no motivation, nothing! Did anyone notice TK applauding the supporters before and during his warm up! A lot more than usual and almost like he was saying his farewell to us! With contracts running out and loans finishing who will be here next season?
If we don't make some big signings come the summer and some big changes in our approach, what's next season going to be like, the momentum of the new stadium has one gone, and 2 seasons pushing for promotion has taken its toll, time for a big change somewhere to kick start things again or dare I say it mid table mediocrity!
[quote][p][bold]ib1980[/bold] wrote: Completely agree that the performance today was poor but some of the fans, especially around me in the upper west need to take a long hard look at themselves. They were moaning and snipping from the first few minutes of the game. If you can't support the team don't come along![/p][/quote]I think you will find most supporters could see the usual thing happening even after 5 minutes, I sit in the north and the frustration at how bad we are playing could be felt almost straight away! There just seems to be no passion in the team, no desire, no motivation, nothing! Did anyone notice TK applauding the supporters before and during his warm up! A lot more than usual and almost like he was saying his farewell to us! With contracts running out and loans finishing who will be here next season? If we don't make some big signings come the summer and some big changes in our approach, what's next season going to be like, the momentum of the new stadium has one gone, and 2 seasons pushing for promotion has taken its toll, time for a big change somewhere to kick start things again or dare I say it mid table mediocrity! To baldly go
  • Score: 15

7:08pm Mon 21 Apr 14

wiseman of hove says...

Digressing from the thread for a moment, I think Nathan Jones re-iterated today that Hoskins had an important pat to play in the run in to the playoffs. Does Oscar think so? Well, there are only two league games left and I still see no sign of it. Hollow words? With the performances of Ulloa and Lingard today, surely there is scope for Hoskins to be given a chance? We need some guile up front. I am not suggesting he should start, but there is room for him to be on the bench, starting Friday.
Digressing from the thread for a moment, I think Nathan Jones re-iterated today that Hoskins had an important pat to play in the run in to the playoffs. Does Oscar think so? Well, there are only two league games left and I still see no sign of it. Hollow words? With the performances of Ulloa and Lingard today, surely there is scope for Hoskins to be given a chance? We need some guile up front. I am not suggesting he should start, but there is room for him to be on the bench, starting Friday. wiseman of hove
  • Score: 7

7:10pm Mon 21 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
How many of you think that Dunk is a, 'vile freeloader,' those that do are trolls.
How many of you think that Oscar should be fired, those that do are trolls.
How many of you think it amusing when Brighton lose, or at least don't win a match we ought to, those that do are trolls.
How many of you accuse the players of, 'purpously losing to project their jobs,' those that do are trolls.
How many of you would say that Brighton should have simply ignored the FFP rules, spent money we don't have, even tho we lost millions in the double digits, those that do are trolls.
How many of you think that Barber is at the root of ANY problem we have to endure, those that do are trolls.

As I said the vast majority on this forum are fans and not trolls, and the difference is that the fans give honest and valid opinions, the trolls just can't wait for a result not to be to our liking.
You can't state who is a troll when other than Norfolk has come on here totally disappointed ! You then state we should be great ful we did not lose? Check out the last 15 games and tell me they should not have been beaten.
OG won't have long next season in my opinion, yes he has done well with injuries, but in truth this season we have been lucky the standard is much lower than last season, we have scored 51 goals the lowest other than the bottom 6 sides. We lacked any real drive and looked as though this was a meaningless game..
Of course players know that some won't be kept on if we went up, if that effects there game only you and Arnie will know. Sorry Vegas but your opinion based on what every week is based on what ?
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: How many of you think that Dunk is a, 'vile freeloader,' those that do are trolls. How many of you think that Oscar should be fired, those that do are trolls. How many of you think it amusing when Brighton lose, or at least don't win a match we ought to, those that do are trolls. How many of you accuse the players of, 'purpously losing to project their jobs,' those that do are trolls. How many of you would say that Brighton should have simply ignored the FFP rules, spent money we don't have, even tho we lost millions in the double digits, those that do are trolls. How many of you think that Barber is at the root of ANY problem we have to endure, those that do are trolls. As I said the vast majority on this forum are fans and not trolls, and the difference is that the fans give honest and valid opinions, the trolls just can't wait for a result not to be to our liking.[/p][/quote]You can't state who is a troll when other than Norfolk has come on here totally disappointed ! You then state we should be great ful we did not lose? Check out the last 15 games and tell me they should not have been beaten. OG won't have long next season in my opinion, yes he has done well with injuries, but in truth this season we have been lucky the standard is much lower than last season, we have scored 51 goals the lowest other than the bottom 6 sides. We lacked any real drive and looked as though this was a meaningless game.. Of course players know that some won't be kept on if we went up, if that effects there game only you and Arnie will know. Sorry Vegas but your opinion based on what every week is based on what ? mark by the sea
  • Score: 8

7:15pm Mon 21 Apr 14

OldGull says...

Norfolk and way wrote:
Quality, commitment, desire, attitude, decent support, decent management, decent playing budget (responsible for all the other things). We lack all of these, there's probably some things I've forgotten but hey ho.
you have also forgotten
decent trolls
[quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: Quality, commitment, desire, attitude, decent support, decent management, decent playing budget (responsible for all the other things). We lack all of these, there's probably some things I've forgotten but hey ho.[/p][/quote]you have also forgotten decent trolls OldGull
  • Score: 5

7:15pm Mon 21 Apr 14

ringtone says...

Bha1901ch wrote:
Well done Burnley
Thanks to Brighton, selling them Barnes at a knock down price.

Of course this follows you know who the year before,

So will we give Ulloa to Leeds or Forest, FFS Barber
[quote][p][bold]Bha1901ch[/bold] wrote: Well done Burnley[/p][/quote]Thanks to Brighton, selling them Barnes at a knock down price. Of course this follows you know who the year before, So will we give Ulloa to Leeds or Forest, FFS Barber ringtone
  • Score: -1

7:16pm Mon 21 Apr 14

ib1980 says...

To baldly go wrote:
ib1980 wrote:
Completely agree that the performance today was poor but some of the fans, especially around me in the upper west need to take a long hard look at themselves. They were moaning and snipping from the first few minutes of the game. If you can't support the team don't come along!
I think you will find most supporters could see the usual thing happening even after 5 minutes, I sit in the north and the frustration at how bad we are playing could be felt almost straight away! There just seems to be no passion in the team, no desire, no motivation, nothing! Did anyone notice TK applauding the supporters before and during his warm up! A lot more than usual and almost like he was saying his farewell to us! With contracts running out and loans finishing who will be here next season?
If we don't make some big signings come the summer and some big changes in our approach, what's next season going to be like, the momentum of the new stadium has one gone, and 2 seasons pushing for promotion has taken its toll, time for a big change somewhere to kick start things again or dare I say it mid table mediocrity!
I agree that it was obvious that we were not playing well early on, but that is when the fans need to get behind the team not get on their backs.
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ib1980[/bold] wrote: Completely agree that the performance today was poor but some of the fans, especially around me in the upper west need to take a long hard look at themselves. They were moaning and snipping from the first few minutes of the game. If you can't support the team don't come along![/p][/quote]I think you will find most supporters could see the usual thing happening even after 5 minutes, I sit in the north and the frustration at how bad we are playing could be felt almost straight away! There just seems to be no passion in the team, no desire, no motivation, nothing! Did anyone notice TK applauding the supporters before and during his warm up! A lot more than usual and almost like he was saying his farewell to us! With contracts running out and loans finishing who will be here next season? If we don't make some big signings come the summer and some big changes in our approach, what's next season going to be like, the momentum of the new stadium has one gone, and 2 seasons pushing for promotion has taken its toll, time for a big change somewhere to kick start things again or dare I say it mid table mediocrity![/p][/quote]I agree that it was obvious that we were not playing well early on, but that is when the fans need to get behind the team not get on their backs. ib1980
  • Score: 4

7:22pm Mon 21 Apr 14

ringtone says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
saraman wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.
Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll.
Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.
I never for a moment thought, or think, that the majority on this forum are trolls, just the usual few. Voicing a genuine dissapointment is very understandable, but is that what you honestly think a handfull on here are doing?
You should be an MP Vegas your backtracking would put Liam Bridcutt to shame,
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll. Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.[/p][/quote]I never for a moment thought, or think, that the majority on this forum are trolls, just the usual few. Voicing a genuine dissapointment is very understandable, but is that what you honestly think a handfull on here are doing?[/p][/quote]You should be an MP Vegas your backtracking would put Liam Bridcutt to shame, ringtone
  • Score: 6

7:26pm Mon 21 Apr 14

JeffLomer says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
We wanted three points but didn't get them, but we did get a point and when in the chase for a play-off place, the most important thing is not to lose at this stage of the season. Ipswich and Bournemouth had the same problem, wanted all three but got just one. Reading will start their match with exactly the same wish tomorrow. Nothing is decided.

It is probably a good idea to stay away from this forum for two or three days, let the trolls have it to themselves, and let them have at it. If they are on their own at least they won't annoy any real fan.
Hi Vegas
I was thinking the same not to bother on here let whingers get it out off there system then the real fans can come back on here for a real chat, what people fail to understand were in 6th place still, forest have just beat Leeds so there point behind, yes people I no reading are playing tomorrow there not guaranteed to beat boro, were in the mix so until it's impossible not to get in to the playoffs, I can't understand all the doom and gloom, onwards and upwards up the Albion!!!!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: We wanted three points but didn't get them, but we did get a point and when in the chase for a play-off place, the most important thing is not to lose at this stage of the season. Ipswich and Bournemouth had the same problem, wanted all three but got just one. Reading will start their match with exactly the same wish tomorrow. Nothing is decided. It is probably a good idea to stay away from this forum for two or three days, let the trolls have it to themselves, and let them have at it. If they are on their own at least they won't annoy any real fan.[/p][/quote]Hi Vegas I was thinking the same not to bother on here let whingers get it out off there system then the real fans can come back on here for a real chat, what people fail to understand were in 6th place still, forest have just beat Leeds so there point behind, yes people I no reading are playing tomorrow there not guaranteed to beat boro, were in the mix so until it's impossible not to get in to the playoffs, I can't understand all the doom and gloom, onwards and upwards up the Albion!!!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 0

7:28pm Mon 21 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
How many of you think that Dunk is a, 'vile freeloader,' those that do are trolls.
How many of you think that Oscar should be fired, those that do are trolls.
How many of you think it amusing when Brighton lose, or at least don't win a match we ought to, those that do are trolls.
How many of you accuse the players of, 'purpously losing to project their jobs,' those that do are trolls.
How many of you would say that Brighton should have simply ignored the FFP rules, spent money we don't have, even tho we lost millions in the double digits, those that do are trolls.
How many of you think that Barber is at the root of ANY problem we have to endure, those that do are trolls.

As I said the vast majority on this forum are fans and not trolls, and the difference is that the fans give honest and valid opinions, the trolls just can't wait for a result not to be to our liking.
You can't state who is a troll when other than Norfolk has come on here totally disappointed ! You then state we should be great ful we did not lose? Check out the last 15 games and tell me they should not have been beaten.
OG won't have long next season in my opinion, yes he has done well with injuries, but in truth this season we have been lucky the standard is much lower than last season, we have scored 51 goals the lowest other than the bottom 6 sides. We lacked any real drive and looked as though this was a meaningless game..
Of course players know that some won't be kept on if we went up, if that effects there game only you and Arnie will know. Sorry Vegas but your opinion based on what every week is based on what ?
So if you think that taking a point today is not better than losing all three, then I am amased. Yeah we wanted 3, we apparently didn't play well enough to get 3, but just look at what getting a point at Huddersfield meant to us, it kept us in the frame, and today's point might do the same. Are you telling everyone that we shouldn't be glad not to lose today, if so I find that odd to say the least.

'Oscar won't have long next season,' based on what? How much money will he have to spend? Who will he bring in? Who will we let go? Who will choose not to stay? When you have the answer to these questions, only then can you say, Oscar won't last long next season.

You ask on what am I basing my, 'opinions,' you might need to look at my comments more closely. Just about every comment I post falls into two groups, hopes and thoughts, not opinions. I, 'hoped,' Oscar would field the same team, I 'thought,' it the best thing to do based on recent results. Find one single comment of mine where I have offered an, 'opinion,' on the team's performance of that of a player. I often, 'think,' we can win a match, and I always, 'hope,' we do, they are not opinions.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: How many of you think that Dunk is a, 'vile freeloader,' those that do are trolls. How many of you think that Oscar should be fired, those that do are trolls. How many of you think it amusing when Brighton lose, or at least don't win a match we ought to, those that do are trolls. How many of you accuse the players of, 'purpously losing to project their jobs,' those that do are trolls. How many of you would say that Brighton should have simply ignored the FFP rules, spent money we don't have, even tho we lost millions in the double digits, those that do are trolls. How many of you think that Barber is at the root of ANY problem we have to endure, those that do are trolls. As I said the vast majority on this forum are fans and not trolls, and the difference is that the fans give honest and valid opinions, the trolls just can't wait for a result not to be to our liking.[/p][/quote]You can't state who is a troll when other than Norfolk has come on here totally disappointed ! You then state we should be great ful we did not lose? Check out the last 15 games and tell me they should not have been beaten. OG won't have long next season in my opinion, yes he has done well with injuries, but in truth this season we have been lucky the standard is much lower than last season, we have scored 51 goals the lowest other than the bottom 6 sides. We lacked any real drive and looked as though this was a meaningless game.. Of course players know that some won't be kept on if we went up, if that effects there game only you and Arnie will know. Sorry Vegas but your opinion based on what every week is based on what ?[/p][/quote]So if you think that taking a point today is not better than losing all three, then I am amased. Yeah we wanted 3, we apparently didn't play well enough to get 3, but just look at what getting a point at Huddersfield meant to us, it kept us in the frame, and today's point might do the same. Are you telling everyone that we shouldn't be glad not to lose today, if so I find that odd to say the least. 'Oscar won't have long next season,' based on what? How much money will he have to spend? Who will he bring in? Who will we let go? Who will choose not to stay? When you have the answer to these questions, only then can you say, Oscar won't last long next season. You ask on what am I basing my, 'opinions,' you might need to look at my comments more closely. Just about every comment I post falls into two groups, hopes and thoughts, not opinions. I, 'hoped,' Oscar would field the same team, I 'thought,' it the best thing to do based on recent results. Find one single comment of mine where I have offered an, 'opinion,' on the team's performance of that of a player. I often, 'think,' we can win a match, and I always, 'hope,' we do, they are not opinions. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

7:29pm Mon 21 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

JeffLomer wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
We wanted three points but didn't get them, but we did get a point and when in the chase for a play-off place, the most important thing is not to lose at this stage of the season. Ipswich and Bournemouth had the same problem, wanted all three but got just one. Reading will start their match with exactly the same wish tomorrow. Nothing is decided.

It is probably a good idea to stay away from this forum for two or three days, let the trolls have it to themselves, and let them have at it. If they are on their own at least they won't annoy any real fan.
Hi Vegas
I was thinking the same not to bother on here let whingers get it out off there system then the real fans can come back on here for a real chat, what people fail to understand were in 6th place still, forest have just beat Leeds so there point behind, yes people I no reading are playing tomorrow there not guaranteed to beat boro, were in the mix so until it's impossible not to get in to the playoffs, I can't understand all the doom and gloom, onwards and upwards up the Albion!!!!
Real fans? Ask Vegas what he thought of today's performance ?
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: We wanted three points but didn't get them, but we did get a point and when in the chase for a play-off place, the most important thing is not to lose at this stage of the season. Ipswich and Bournemouth had the same problem, wanted all three but got just one. Reading will start their match with exactly the same wish tomorrow. Nothing is decided. It is probably a good idea to stay away from this forum for two or three days, let the trolls have it to themselves, and let them have at it. If they are on their own at least they won't annoy any real fan.[/p][/quote]Hi Vegas I was thinking the same not to bother on here let whingers get it out off there system then the real fans can come back on here for a real chat, what people fail to understand were in 6th place still, forest have just beat Leeds so there point behind, yes people I no reading are playing tomorrow there not guaranteed to beat boro, were in the mix so until it's impossible not to get in to the playoffs, I can't understand all the doom and gloom, onwards and upwards up the Albion!!!![/p][/quote]Real fans? Ask Vegas what he thought of today's performance ? mark by the sea
  • Score: 0

7:30pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Falmer Wizard says...

ib1980 wrote:
Completely agree that the performance today was poor but some of the fans, especially around me in the upper west need to take a long hard look at themselves. They were moaning and snipping from the first few minutes of the game. If you can't support the team don't come along!
If you continue to attend and support the type of football we have played recently against teams much lower in the league then you are encouraging the club to do nothing, and that is what you will get!
[quote][p][bold]ib1980[/bold] wrote: Completely agree that the performance today was poor but some of the fans, especially around me in the upper west need to take a long hard look at themselves. They were moaning and snipping from the first few minutes of the game. If you can't support the team don't come along![/p][/quote]If you continue to attend and support the type of football we have played recently against teams much lower in the league then you are encouraging the club to do nothing, and that is what you will get! Falmer Wizard
  • Score: 4

7:32pm Mon 21 Apr 14

OldGull says...

ib1980 wrote:
Completely agree that the performance today was poor but some of the fans, especially around me in the upper west need to take a long hard look at themselves. They were moaning and snipping from the first few minutes of the game. If you can't support the team don't come along!
have to agree.
I sit in UW
There are a group behind us who complain every game (including when we win)
It started at 6 mins today.

With regard to today's match it was very frustrating.
No width in the 1st half. Solly was anonymous and Kaz kept drifting inside.
I usually defend Andrews, but today he kept slowing the tempo when we had the chance to attack.
We defended poorly for there equaliser.
Stephens was the one player who showed any urgency, and Ward had another sound game.
I am sure Reading will not win all there games, so With Forest recovering form, it could be winner takes all at the city ground.
For all the complaints, how many on here thought we would still be in with a shout going into the last 2 games of the season?
UTA
[quote][p][bold]ib1980[/bold] wrote: Completely agree that the performance today was poor but some of the fans, especially around me in the upper west need to take a long hard look at themselves. They were moaning and snipping from the first few minutes of the game. If you can't support the team don't come along![/p][/quote]have to agree. I sit in UW There are a group behind us who complain every game (including when we win) It started at 6 mins today. With regard to today's match it was very frustrating. No width in the 1st half. Solly was anonymous and Kaz kept drifting inside. I usually defend Andrews, but today he kept slowing the tempo when we had the chance to attack. We defended poorly for there equaliser. Stephens was the one player who showed any urgency, and Ward had another sound game. I am sure Reading will not win all there games, so With Forest recovering form, it could be winner takes all at the city ground. For all the complaints, how many on here thought we would still be in with a shout going into the last 2 games of the season? UTA OldGull
  • Score: 2

7:32pm Mon 21 Apr 14

daughter-of-manag says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
We wanted three points but didn't get them, but we did get a point and when in the chase for a play-off place, the most important thing is not to lose at this stage of the season. Ipswich and Bournemouth had the same problem, wanted all three but got just one. Reading will start their match with exactly the same wish tomorrow. Nothing is decided.

It is probably a good idea to stay away from this forum for two or three days, let the trolls have it to themselves, and let them have at it. If they are on their own at least they won't annoy any real fan.
OMG Vagas, you are such a prima doña . You sit 1000's of miles away and make your comments as if you are some kind of spokesperson for all things BHA! Everyone is entitled to an opinion and if it differs from yours, or if they pay to watch BHA and they are fed up with the team performance or. Management decisions. ...they are considered trolls? Please grow up and get a life.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: We wanted three points but didn't get them, but we did get a point and when in the chase for a play-off place, the most important thing is not to lose at this stage of the season. Ipswich and Bournemouth had the same problem, wanted all three but got just one. Reading will start their match with exactly the same wish tomorrow. Nothing is decided. It is probably a good idea to stay away from this forum for two or three days, let the trolls have it to themselves, and let them have at it. If they are on their own at least they won't annoy any real fan.[/p][/quote]OMG Vagas, you are such a prima doña . You sit 1000's of miles away and make your comments as if you are some kind of spokesperson for all things BHA! Everyone is entitled to an opinion and if it differs from yours, or if they pay to watch BHA and they are fed up with the team performance or. Management decisions. ...they are considered trolls? Please grow up and get a life. daughter-of-manag
  • Score: 8

7:32pm Mon 21 Apr 14

ringtone says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
How many of you think that Dunk is a, 'vile freeloader,' those that do are trolls.
How many of you think that Oscar should be fired, those that do are trolls.
How many of you think it amusing when Brighton lose, or at least don't win a match we ought to, those that do are trolls.
How many of you accuse the players of, 'purpously losing to project their jobs,' those that do are trolls.
How many of you would say that Brighton should have simply ignored the FFP rules, spent money we don't have, even tho we lost millions in the double digits, those that do are trolls.
How many of you think that Barber is at the root of ANY problem we have to endure, those that do are trolls.

As I said the vast majority on this forum are fans and not trolls, and the difference is that the fans give honest and valid opinions, the trolls just can't wait for a result not to be to our liking.
You can't state who is a troll when other than Norfolk has come on here totally disappointed ! You then state we should be great ful we did not lose? Check out the last 15 games and tell me they should not have been beaten.
OG won't have long next season in my opinion, yes he has done well with injuries, but in truth this season we have been lucky the standard is much lower than last season, we have scored 51 goals the lowest other than the bottom 6 sides. We lacked any real drive and looked as though this was a meaningless game..
Of course players know that some won't be kept on if we went up, if that effects there game only you and Arnie will know. Sorry Vegas but your opinion based on what every week is based on what ?
So if you think that taking a point today is not better than losing all three, then I am amased. Yeah we wanted 3, we apparently didn't play well enough to get 3, but just look at what getting a point at Huddersfield meant to us, it kept us in the frame, and today's point might do the same. Are you telling everyone that we shouldn't be glad not to lose today, if so I find that odd to say the least.

'Oscar won't have long next season,' based on what? How much money will he have to spend? Who will he bring in? Who will we let go? Who will choose not to stay? When you have the answer to these questions, only then can you say, Oscar won't last long next season.

You ask on what am I basing my, 'opinions,' you might need to look at my comments more closely. Just about every comment I post falls into two groups, hopes and thoughts, not opinions. I, 'hoped,' Oscar would field the same team, I 'thought,' it the best thing to do based on recent results. Find one single comment of mine where I have offered an, 'opinion,' on the team's performance of that of a player. I often, 'think,' we can win a match, and I always, 'hope,' we do, they are not opinions.
I thought you were taking a break, reads like a breakdown to me.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: How many of you think that Dunk is a, 'vile freeloader,' those that do are trolls. How many of you think that Oscar should be fired, those that do are trolls. How many of you think it amusing when Brighton lose, or at least don't win a match we ought to, those that do are trolls. How many of you accuse the players of, 'purpously losing to project their jobs,' those that do are trolls. How many of you would say that Brighton should have simply ignored the FFP rules, spent money we don't have, even tho we lost millions in the double digits, those that do are trolls. How many of you think that Barber is at the root of ANY problem we have to endure, those that do are trolls. As I said the vast majority on this forum are fans and not trolls, and the difference is that the fans give honest and valid opinions, the trolls just can't wait for a result not to be to our liking.[/p][/quote]You can't state who is a troll when other than Norfolk has come on here totally disappointed ! You then state we should be great ful we did not lose? Check out the last 15 games and tell me they should not have been beaten. OG won't have long next season in my opinion, yes he has done well with injuries, but in truth this season we have been lucky the standard is much lower than last season, we have scored 51 goals the lowest other than the bottom 6 sides. We lacked any real drive and looked as though this was a meaningless game.. Of course players know that some won't be kept on if we went up, if that effects there game only you and Arnie will know. Sorry Vegas but your opinion based on what every week is based on what ?[/p][/quote]So if you think that taking a point today is not better than losing all three, then I am amased. Yeah we wanted 3, we apparently didn't play well enough to get 3, but just look at what getting a point at Huddersfield meant to us, it kept us in the frame, and today's point might do the same. Are you telling everyone that we shouldn't be glad not to lose today, if so I find that odd to say the least. 'Oscar won't have long next season,' based on what? How much money will he have to spend? Who will he bring in? Who will we let go? Who will choose not to stay? When you have the answer to these questions, only then can you say, Oscar won't last long next season. You ask on what am I basing my, 'opinions,' you might need to look at my comments more closely. Just about every comment I post falls into two groups, hopes and thoughts, not opinions. I, 'hoped,' Oscar would field the same team, I 'thought,' it the best thing to do based on recent results. Find one single comment of mine where I have offered an, 'opinion,' on the team's performance of that of a player. I often, 'think,' we can win a match, and I always, 'hope,' we do, they are not opinions.[/p][/quote]I thought you were taking a break, reads like a breakdown to me. ringtone
  • Score: 1

7:38pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Neville says...

Previous comment regarding TK applauding fans,lots of people around me commented and pretty sure he has an offer to move up to PL next season.
Guess he is saying farewell,which will be a shame.
Also have to comment on how many reasonably easy chances WB fails to put away,if he did and got permanently fit he could be in PL.
Previous comment regarding TK applauding fans,lots of people around me commented and pretty sure he has an offer to move up to PL next season. Guess he is saying farewell,which will be a shame. Also have to comment on how many reasonably easy chances WB fails to put away,if he did and got permanently fit he could be in PL. Neville
  • Score: 6

7:41pm Mon 21 Apr 14

To baldly go says...

ib1980 wrote:
To baldly go wrote:
ib1980 wrote:
Completely agree that the performance today was poor but some of the fans, especially around me in the upper west need to take a long hard look at themselves. They were moaning and snipping from the first few minutes of the game. If you can't support the team don't come along!
I think you will find most supporters could see the usual thing happening even after 5 minutes, I sit in the north and the frustration at how bad we are playing could be felt almost straight away! There just seems to be no passion in the team, no desire, no motivation, nothing! Did anyone notice TK applauding the supporters before and during his warm up! A lot more than usual and almost like he was saying his farewell to us! With contracts running out and loans finishing who will be here next season?
If we don't make some big signings come the summer and some big changes in our approach, what's next season going to be like, the momentum of the new stadium has one gone, and 2 seasons pushing for promotion has taken its toll, time for a big change somewhere to kick start things again or dare I say it mid table mediocrity!
I agree that it was obvious that we were not playing well early on, but that is when the fans need to get behind the team not get on their backs.
For most, it's that we've not played well for a long time that's the trouble, we turn up in our thousands expecting quality with passion etc but it's not happening. 27000 fans turning up should be enough to get any team going, Oscar doesn't show anything to anyone, players or the fans which doesn't help matters.
Give him a pre-season with some players of his choosing and if after 6 or so games it's still the same, I fear he will be gone. Let's turn it on Friday and who knows come Saturday evening we might be 4 points clear and not have to worry about Forest! UTA
[quote][p][bold]ib1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ib1980[/bold] wrote: Completely agree that the performance today was poor but some of the fans, especially around me in the upper west need to take a long hard look at themselves. They were moaning and snipping from the first few minutes of the game. If you can't support the team don't come along![/p][/quote]I think you will find most supporters could see the usual thing happening even after 5 minutes, I sit in the north and the frustration at how bad we are playing could be felt almost straight away! There just seems to be no passion in the team, no desire, no motivation, nothing! Did anyone notice TK applauding the supporters before and during his warm up! A lot more than usual and almost like he was saying his farewell to us! With contracts running out and loans finishing who will be here next season? If we don't make some big signings come the summer and some big changes in our approach, what's next season going to be like, the momentum of the new stadium has one gone, and 2 seasons pushing for promotion has taken its toll, time for a big change somewhere to kick start things again or dare I say it mid table mediocrity![/p][/quote]I agree that it was obvious that we were not playing well early on, but that is when the fans need to get behind the team not get on their backs.[/p][/quote]For most, it's that we've not played well for a long time that's the trouble, we turn up in our thousands expecting quality with passion etc but it's not happening. 27000 fans turning up should be enough to get any team going, Oscar doesn't show anything to anyone, players or the fans which doesn't help matters. Give him a pre-season with some players of his choosing and if after 6 or so games it's still the same, I fear he will be gone. Let's turn it on Friday and who knows come Saturday evening we might be 4 points clear and not have to worry about Forest! UTA To baldly go
  • Score: 3

7:42pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
We wanted three points but didn't get them, but we did get a point and when in the chase for a play-off place, the most important thing is not to lose at this stage of the season. Ipswich and Bournemouth had the same problem, wanted all three but got just one. Reading will start their match with exactly the same wish tomorrow. Nothing is decided.

It is probably a good idea to stay away from this forum for two or three days, let the trolls have it to themselves, and let them have at it. If they are on their own at least they won't annoy any real fan.
What nonsense you talk, you were not there yet you talk the talk, watch forest coming up from the depth, Reading and Bournemouth shared the points because they are both chasing a play off spot!
How the hell can you say everything is ok when we struggled today against Blackpool who have been in free fall for 15 games!
2 wins from last 9 games, not good enough.
And yet... and yet those 9 games have been good enough to get us (for the time being) in a playoff spot.

It is not just us stumbling over the line - whichever team ends up in 6th place will have scraped in.

By the way, no need to tell me I wasn't at the game, I already know and it's irrelevant.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: We wanted three points but didn't get them, but we did get a point and when in the chase for a play-off place, the most important thing is not to lose at this stage of the season. Ipswich and Bournemouth had the same problem, wanted all three but got just one. Reading will start their match with exactly the same wish tomorrow. Nothing is decided. It is probably a good idea to stay away from this forum for two or three days, let the trolls have it to themselves, and let them have at it. If they are on their own at least they won't annoy any real fan.[/p][/quote]What nonsense you talk, you were not there yet you talk the talk, watch forest coming up from the depth, Reading and Bournemouth shared the points because they are both chasing a play off spot! How the hell can you say everything is ok when we struggled today against Blackpool who have been in free fall for 15 games! 2 wins from last 9 games, not good enough.[/p][/quote]And yet... and yet those 9 games have been good enough to get us (for the time being) in a playoff spot. It is not just us stumbling over the line - whichever team ends up in 6th place will have scraped in. By the way, no need to tell me I wasn't at the game, I already know and it's irrelevant. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 0

7:43pm Mon 21 Apr 14

brightonup says...

OldGull wrote:
Norfolk and way wrote:
Quality, commitment, desire, attitude, decent support, decent management, decent playing budget (responsible for all the other things). We lack all of these, there's probably some things I've forgotten but hey ho.
you have also forgotten
decent trolls
Not worth the time and effort on this virus.
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: Quality, commitment, desire, attitude, decent support, decent management, decent playing budget (responsible for all the other things). We lack all of these, there's probably some things I've forgotten but hey ho.[/p][/quote]you have also forgotten decent trolls[/p][/quote]Not worth the time and effort on this virus. brightonup
  • Score: 1

7:44pm Mon 21 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

daughter-of-manag wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
We wanted three points but didn't get them, but we did get a point and when in the chase for a play-off place, the most important thing is not to lose at this stage of the season. Ipswich and Bournemouth had the same problem, wanted all three but got just one. Reading will start their match with exactly the same wish tomorrow. Nothing is decided.

It is probably a good idea to stay away from this forum for two or three days, let the trolls have it to themselves, and let them have at it. If they are on their own at least they won't annoy any real fan.
OMG Vagas, you are such a prima doña . You sit 1000's of miles away and make your comments as if you are some kind of spokesperson for all things BHA! Everyone is entitled to an opinion and if it differs from yours, or if they pay to watch BHA and they are fed up with the team performance or. Management decisions. ...they are considered trolls? Please grow up and get a life.
and of course you know that is not what I said, Constructive criticism is justified after any match is right if it is deserved, and those attending the matches are best placed to decide that.
Take a look at the comment of mine where I list the trolls favorite themes, then you might have a better understanding of my original post and subsequent replies.
[quote][p][bold]daughter-of-manag[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: We wanted three points but didn't get them, but we did get a point and when in the chase for a play-off place, the most important thing is not to lose at this stage of the season. Ipswich and Bournemouth had the same problem, wanted all three but got just one. Reading will start their match with exactly the same wish tomorrow. Nothing is decided. It is probably a good idea to stay away from this forum for two or three days, let the trolls have it to themselves, and let them have at it. If they are on their own at least they won't annoy any real fan.[/p][/quote]OMG Vagas, you are such a prima doña . You sit 1000's of miles away and make your comments as if you are some kind of spokesperson for all things BHA! Everyone is entitled to an opinion and if it differs from yours, or if they pay to watch BHA and they are fed up with the team performance or. Management decisions. ...they are considered trolls? Please grow up and get a life.[/p][/quote]and of course you know that is not what I said, Constructive criticism is justified after any match is right if it is deserved, and those attending the matches are best placed to decide that. Take a look at the comment of mine where I list the trolls favorite themes, then you might have a better understanding of my original post and subsequent replies. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -2

7:46pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
saraman wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.
Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll.
Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.
Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season
Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend.

I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke.

if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll. Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.[/p][/quote]Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season[/p][/quote]Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend. I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke. if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 5

7:49pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
saraman wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.
Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll.
Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.
Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season
That's now 20-30 times you have used the very tired and incorrect accusation that I do not go to games. If that is all you have then give it up.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll. Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.[/p][/quote]Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season[/p][/quote]That's now 20-30 times you have used the very tired and incorrect accusation that I do not go to games. If that is all you have then give it up. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 2

7:50pm Mon 21 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
saraman wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.
Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll.
Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.
Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season
Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend.

I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke.

if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.
exactly Arnie, the thing that surprises me is that several of the genuine fans bought into the idea that I was having a pop at them, they bought into the whole troll game. Score one for the trolls I guess.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll. Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.[/p][/quote]Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season[/p][/quote]Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend. I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke. if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.[/p][/quote]exactly Arnie, the thing that surprises me is that several of the genuine fans bought into the idea that I was having a pop at them, they bought into the whole troll game. Score one for the trolls I guess. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

7:52pm Mon 21 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
saraman wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.
Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll.
Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.
Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season
Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend.

I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke.

if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.
Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll. Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.[/p][/quote]Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season[/p][/quote]Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend. I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke. if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.[/p][/quote]Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling mark by the sea
  • Score: 3

7:52pm Mon 21 Apr 14

jockithenoo says...

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UTA
GOOOOAAAAAAAALLLLLLS SSSSS!!!! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ UTA jockithenoo
  • Score: 4

7:56pm Mon 21 Apr 14

OldGull says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
saraman wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.
Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll.
Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.
Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season
Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend.

I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke.

if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.
Hi Arnie
It seems several on here are getting on their high horse,
I think it was obvious what Vegas meant but they choose to bite.

I was at the game today, it was frustrating but I don't agree with the sweeping comments about lack of effort etc etc that many are making.
So not sure where that leaves me in their eyes.
I believe we will win on Friday.
I am expecting a bumper winner takes all match at Forest.
Either way, we have taken this season into the last 2 matches.
We would have taken that earlier in the season.
UTA
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll. Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.[/p][/quote]Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season[/p][/quote]Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend. I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke. if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.[/p][/quote]Hi Arnie It seems several on here are getting on their high horse, I think it was obvious what Vegas meant but they choose to bite. I was at the game today, it was frustrating but I don't agree with the sweeping comments about lack of effort etc etc that many are making. So not sure where that leaves me in their eyes. I believe we will win on Friday. I am expecting a bumper winner takes all match at Forest. Either way, we have taken this season into the last 2 matches. We would have taken that earlier in the season. UTA OldGull
  • Score: 3

7:58pm Mon 21 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
saraman wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.
Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll.
Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.
Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season
Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend.

I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke.

if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.
Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling
Do you think Norfolk is gutted, or that Freeloader and Ringtone are feeling gutted? Is, 'Oscar must go,' feeling happier today, I might have that name slightly wrong but you know who I mean.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll. Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.[/p][/quote]Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season[/p][/quote]Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend. I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke. if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.[/p][/quote]Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling[/p][/quote]Do you think Norfolk is gutted, or that Freeloader and Ringtone are feeling gutted? Is, 'Oscar must go,' feeling happier today, I might have that name slightly wrong but you know who I mean. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

8:00pm Mon 21 Apr 14

OldGull says...

brightonup wrote:
OldGull wrote:
Norfolk and way wrote:
Quality, commitment, desire, attitude, decent support, decent management, decent playing budget (responsible for all the other things). We lack all of these, there's probably some things I've forgotten but hey ho.
you have also forgotten
decent trolls
Not worth the time and effort on this virus.
you are of course right :)
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: Quality, commitment, desire, attitude, decent support, decent management, decent playing budget (responsible for all the other things). We lack all of these, there's probably some things I've forgotten but hey ho.[/p][/quote]you have also forgotten decent trolls[/p][/quote]Not worth the time and effort on this virus.[/p][/quote]you are of course right :) OldGull
  • Score: 0

8:02pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
saraman wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.
Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll.
Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.
Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season
Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend.

I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke.

if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.
Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling
Complaining about the performance is not trolling, I agree, and I have not suggested otherwise. However, invoking my name when I have deliberately not posted IS, as you are apparently deliberately trying to provoke me (the dictionary definition of trolling).

Trolling also includes the antics of people like Ringtone who genuinely delight in any disappointing result (and this I believe was the thrust of Vegas's initial post).

PS: I AM a real fan, and I am also gutted, as I always am when we drop points. Please, PLEASE do not confuse occasional non-attendance with not being a real fan. It is very insulting.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll. Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.[/p][/quote]Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season[/p][/quote]Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend. I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke. if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.[/p][/quote]Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling[/p][/quote]Complaining about the performance is not trolling, I agree, and I have not suggested otherwise. However, invoking my name when I have deliberately not posted IS, as you are apparently deliberately trying to provoke me (the dictionary definition of trolling). Trolling also includes the antics of people like Ringtone who genuinely delight in any disappointing result (and this I believe was the thrust of Vegas's initial post). PS: I AM a real fan, and I am also gutted, as I always am when we drop points. Please, PLEASE do not confuse occasional non-attendance with not being a real fan. It is very insulting. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 4

8:07pm Mon 21 Apr 14

brightonup says...

I was at the match.
Overall I thought the game was frustrating and we were inept. There were two good goals and the result was fair. Case closed on that.

Strangely, like Crystal Palace last season, - we are still in with a shout to reach the playoffs in spite of recent poor performances.

Of course if we do make it, then we have as good a chance of winning the play off lottery as any of the other participating teams. If we don't, then given the issues that have dogged the club all season, I still maintain we have over achieved.

When this great club gets to the premiership (and I believe it will sooner rather than later), I think we will have the infrastructure in place to stay up and thrive.
I was at the match. Overall I thought the game was frustrating and we were inept. There were two good goals and the result was fair. Case closed on that. Strangely, like Crystal Palace last season, - we are still in with a shout to reach the playoffs in spite of recent poor performances. Of course if we do make it, then we have as good a chance of winning the play off lottery as any of the other participating teams. If we don't, then given the issues that have dogged the club all season, I still maintain we have over achieved. When this great club gets to the premiership (and I believe it will sooner rather than later), I think we will have the infrastructure in place to stay up and thrive. brightonup
  • Score: 5

8:11pm Mon 21 Apr 14

impose our game gull says...

Not able to be at the match today. On the radio it sounded as if we spent (Lingard, Lua Lua and Bruno) most of the first half slipping over at just the key moment so I'd say no watering of the pitch on match days!!

Deliveries from set pieces sounded dreadful apart from one.

Pace and movement in the first half.

Time for an Ince return.

Shots on target - close isn't good enough.

Focus (silly free kick given away in the first 2 mins as happened twice at Huddersfield), desire, passion and BELIEF.

Lucky really to still be right in it.

It's all in the mind now - job for Oscar really.


UTA!!
Not able to be at the match today. On the radio it sounded as if we spent (Lingard, Lua Lua and Bruno) most of the first half slipping over at just the key moment so I'd say no watering of the pitch on match days!! Deliveries from set pieces sounded dreadful apart from one. Pace and movement in the first half. Time for an Ince return. Shots on target - close isn't good enough. Focus (silly free kick given away in the first 2 mins as happened twice at Huddersfield), desire, passion and BELIEF. Lucky really to still be right in it. It's all in the mind now - job for Oscar really. UTA!! impose our game gull
  • Score: 1

8:17pm Mon 21 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
saraman wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.
Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll.
Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.
Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season
Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend.

I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke.

if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.
Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling
Complaining about the performance is not trolling, I agree, and I have not suggested otherwise. However, invoking my name when I have deliberately not posted IS, as you are apparently deliberately trying to provoke me (the dictionary definition of trolling).

Trolling also includes the antics of people like Ringtone who genuinely delight in any disappointing result (and this I believe was the thrust of Vegas's initial post).

PS: I AM a real fan, and I am also gutted, as I always am when we drop points. Please, PLEASE do not confuse occasional non-attendance with not being a real fan. It is very insulting.
Sorry , but some stupid comments from Vegas tonight!
Had we won we would just have needed a win friday! The whole championship seem to be helping us reach the play offs! And we are doing our best to not accept it! Saying a draw is acceptable is ridiculous
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll. Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.[/p][/quote]Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season[/p][/quote]Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend. I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke. if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.[/p][/quote]Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling[/p][/quote]Complaining about the performance is not trolling, I agree, and I have not suggested otherwise. However, invoking my name when I have deliberately not posted IS, as you are apparently deliberately trying to provoke me (the dictionary definition of trolling). Trolling also includes the antics of people like Ringtone who genuinely delight in any disappointing result (and this I believe was the thrust of Vegas's initial post). PS: I AM a real fan, and I am also gutted, as I always am when we drop points. Please, PLEASE do not confuse occasional non-attendance with not being a real fan. It is very insulting.[/p][/quote]Sorry , but some stupid comments from Vegas tonight! Had we won we would just have needed a win friday! The whole championship seem to be helping us reach the play offs! And we are doing our best to not accept it! Saying a draw is acceptable is ridiculous mark by the sea
  • Score: 4

8:26pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

I disagree... Vegas's comments are not stupid. You may disagree with them, but they are not stupid. If Reading fail to win their extra game it's still in our hands. A draw would not have been acceptable if our rivals had all overtaken us, but they haven't.

Why can we no longer have proper discussions on here without everyone taking offence at what someone with a different opinion has written, or playing "fan oneupmanship"?

Ignoring the genuine trolls (and they know who they are) we are ALL fans of this great club; we are ALL on the same side; we are ALL Albion.
I disagree... Vegas's comments are not stupid. You may disagree with them, but they are not stupid. If Reading fail to win their extra game it's still in our hands. A draw would not have been acceptable if our rivals had all overtaken us, but they haven't. Why can we no longer have proper discussions on here without everyone taking offence at what someone with a different opinion has written, or playing "fan oneupmanship"? Ignoring the genuine trolls (and they know who they are) we are ALL fans of this great club; we are ALL on the same side; we are ALL Albion. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

8:38pm Mon 21 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
saraman wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.
Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll.
Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.
Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season
Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend.

I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke.

if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.
Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling
Complaining about the performance is not trolling, I agree, and I have not suggested otherwise. However, invoking my name when I have deliberately not posted IS, as you are apparently deliberately trying to provoke me (the dictionary definition of trolling).

Trolling also includes the antics of people like Ringtone who genuinely delight in any disappointing result (and this I believe was the thrust of Vegas's initial post).

PS: I AM a real fan, and I am also gutted, as I always am when we drop points. Please, PLEASE do not confuse occasional non-attendance with not being a real fan. It is very insulting.
Sorry , but some stupid comments from Vegas tonight!
Had we won we would just have needed a win friday! The whole championship seem to be helping us reach the play offs! And we are doing our best to not accept it! Saying a draw is acceptable is ridiculous
so what you are peed off about is that we didn't win, yeah I get that, but how the heck can you say that if we don't win, for what ever reason, a draw is unacceptable, I just don't get that. You can be as annoyed as you want about us not winning, it was a match that we had expected to get 3 points from, but why harp on about the negative and ignore the positive, even if the positive is not all that great.
We are still in the hunt, doesn't that matter to you or can you only find good in 3 points? Glass is always half empty with you Mark, as your stated opinion that Ocar won't last long next year, even tho you have no idea what shape our squad will take come the start of a new campaign.
Just a small point but I have to ask, why have you been the most defensive when commenting on my original comment about trolls, not even Ringtone has said as much as you and right now he is the troll leader in chief.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll. Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.[/p][/quote]Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season[/p][/quote]Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend. I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke. if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.[/p][/quote]Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling[/p][/quote]Complaining about the performance is not trolling, I agree, and I have not suggested otherwise. However, invoking my name when I have deliberately not posted IS, as you are apparently deliberately trying to provoke me (the dictionary definition of trolling). Trolling also includes the antics of people like Ringtone who genuinely delight in any disappointing result (and this I believe was the thrust of Vegas's initial post). PS: I AM a real fan, and I am also gutted, as I always am when we drop points. Please, PLEASE do not confuse occasional non-attendance with not being a real fan. It is very insulting.[/p][/quote]Sorry , but some stupid comments from Vegas tonight! Had we won we would just have needed a win friday! The whole championship seem to be helping us reach the play offs! And we are doing our best to not accept it! Saying a draw is acceptable is ridiculous[/p][/quote]so what you are peed off about is that we didn't win, yeah I get that, but how the heck can you say that if we don't win, for what ever reason, a draw is unacceptable, I just don't get that. You can be as annoyed as you want about us not winning, it was a match that we had expected to get 3 points from, but why harp on about the negative and ignore the positive, even if the positive is not all that great. We are still in the hunt, doesn't that matter to you or can you only find good in 3 points? Glass is always half empty with you Mark, as your stated opinion that Ocar won't last long next year, even tho you have no idea what shape our squad will take come the start of a new campaign. Just a small point but I have to ask, why have you been the most defensive when commenting on my original comment about trolls, not even Ringtone has said as much as you and right now he is the troll leader in chief. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -2

9:10pm Mon 21 Apr 14

namgo49 says...

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  • Score: 1

9:13pm Mon 21 Apr 14

OldGull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
saraman wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.
Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll.
Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.
Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season
Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend.

I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke.

if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.
Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling
Complaining about the performance is not trolling, I agree, and I have not suggested otherwise. However, invoking my name when I have deliberately not posted IS, as you are apparently deliberately trying to provoke me (the dictionary definition of trolling).

Trolling also includes the antics of people like Ringtone who genuinely delight in any disappointing result (and this I believe was the thrust of Vegas's initial post).

PS: I AM a real fan, and I am also gutted, as I always am when we drop points. Please, PLEASE do not confuse occasional non-attendance with not being a real fan. It is very insulting.
Sorry , but some stupid comments from Vegas tonight!
Had we won we would just have needed a win friday! The whole championship seem to be helping us reach the play offs! And we are doing our best to not accept it! Saying a draw is acceptable is ridiculous
Just a thought, but the same argument could be put about Forest, Reading,Ipswich & Bournemouth.
Most seasons this happens,
The players nerves get the better of them and teams that are expected to win don't.
It happens in the prem Chelsea have just lost to Norwich & Sunderland.
Everton got themselves into 4th then lose at home to Palace.

As it stands today's point could be classed as important. It takes us 1point nearer the playoffs.
Yes of course we could & should have beaten Blackpool.
But we didn't, OG put out an attacking line up but they were unable to deliver. That does not mean they were not trying.
I am a season ticket holder, and found today frustrating but unlike you, my glass is STILL half full.
That does not make either of us more or less of a supporter.
And just because Arnie does not get to all the games is he less of a supporter. When my children were very young I did not see as many matches as I would have liked, but I was still 100% Albion
Anyway 6pts from the next 2 games should do it
UTA
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll. Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.[/p][/quote]Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season[/p][/quote]Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend. I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke. if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.[/p][/quote]Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling[/p][/quote]Complaining about the performance is not trolling, I agree, and I have not suggested otherwise. However, invoking my name when I have deliberately not posted IS, as you are apparently deliberately trying to provoke me (the dictionary definition of trolling). Trolling also includes the antics of people like Ringtone who genuinely delight in any disappointing result (and this I believe was the thrust of Vegas's initial post). PS: I AM a real fan, and I am also gutted, as I always am when we drop points. Please, PLEASE do not confuse occasional non-attendance with not being a real fan. It is very insulting.[/p][/quote]Sorry , but some stupid comments from Vegas tonight! Had we won we would just have needed a win friday! The whole championship seem to be helping us reach the play offs! And we are doing our best to not accept it! Saying a draw is acceptable is ridiculous[/p][/quote]Just a thought, but the same argument could be put about Forest, Reading,Ipswich & Bournemouth. Most seasons this happens, The players nerves get the better of them and teams that are expected to win don't. It happens in the prem Chelsea have just lost to Norwich & Sunderland. Everton got themselves into 4th then lose at home to Palace. As it stands today's point could be classed as important. It takes us 1point nearer the playoffs. Yes of course we could & should have beaten Blackpool. But we didn't, OG put out an attacking line up but they were unable to deliver. That does not mean they were not trying. I am a season ticket holder, and found today frustrating but unlike you, my glass is STILL half full. That does not make either of us more or less of a supporter. And just because Arnie does not get to all the games is he less of a supporter. When my children were very young I did not see as many matches as I would have liked, but I was still 100% Albion Anyway 6pts from the next 2 games should do it UTA OldGull
  • Score: 1

9:16pm Mon 21 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
saraman wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.
Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll.
Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.
Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season
Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend.

I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke.

if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.
Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling
Complaining about the performance is not trolling, I agree, and I have not suggested otherwise. However, invoking my name when I have deliberately not posted IS, as you are apparently deliberately trying to provoke me (the dictionary definition of trolling).

Trolling also includes the antics of people like Ringtone who genuinely delight in any disappointing result (and this I believe was the thrust of Vegas's initial post).

PS: I AM a real fan, and I am also gutted, as I always am when we drop points. Please, PLEASE do not confuse occasional non-attendance with not being a real fan. It is very insulting.
Sorry , but some stupid comments from Vegas tonight!
Had we won we would just have needed a win friday! The whole championship seem to be helping us reach the play offs! And we are doing our best to not accept it! Saying a draw is acceptable is ridiculous
so what you are peed off about is that we didn't win, yeah I get that, but how the heck can you say that if we don't win, for what ever reason, a draw is unacceptable, I just don't get that. You can be as annoyed as you want about us not winning, it was a match that we had expected to get 3 points from, but why harp on about the negative and ignore the positive, even if the positive is not all that great.
We are still in the hunt, doesn't that matter to you or can you only find good in 3 points? Glass is always half empty with you Mark, as your stated opinion that Ocar won't last long next year, even tho you have no idea what shape our squad will take come the start of a new campaign.
Just a small point but I have to ask, why have you been the most defensive when commenting on my original comment about trolls, not even Ringtone has said as much as you and right now he is the troll leader in chief.
You never saw the performance today, so why even make a opinion? Seriously! You make the obvious sound so interesting ! A draw against forest away is a good draw, a draw against a side in turmoil when we need to win games, obviously you can only comment on the rsult because frankly you have no idea what happens at the Amex today.
Me being a troll? Season ticket holder for 15 out of last 20 odd seasons.
I plan my holidays around our season!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll. Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.[/p][/quote]Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season[/p][/quote]Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend. I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke. if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.[/p][/quote]Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling[/p][/quote]Complaining about the performance is not trolling, I agree, and I have not suggested otherwise. However, invoking my name when I have deliberately not posted IS, as you are apparently deliberately trying to provoke me (the dictionary definition of trolling). Trolling also includes the antics of people like Ringtone who genuinely delight in any disappointing result (and this I believe was the thrust of Vegas's initial post). PS: I AM a real fan, and I am also gutted, as I always am when we drop points. Please, PLEASE do not confuse occasional non-attendance with not being a real fan. It is very insulting.[/p][/quote]Sorry , but some stupid comments from Vegas tonight! Had we won we would just have needed a win friday! The whole championship seem to be helping us reach the play offs! And we are doing our best to not accept it! Saying a draw is acceptable is ridiculous[/p][/quote]so what you are peed off about is that we didn't win, yeah I get that, but how the heck can you say that if we don't win, for what ever reason, a draw is unacceptable, I just don't get that. You can be as annoyed as you want about us not winning, it was a match that we had expected to get 3 points from, but why harp on about the negative and ignore the positive, even if the positive is not all that great. We are still in the hunt, doesn't that matter to you or can you only find good in 3 points? Glass is always half empty with you Mark, as your stated opinion that Ocar won't last long next year, even tho you have no idea what shape our squad will take come the start of a new campaign. Just a small point but I have to ask, why have you been the most defensive when commenting on my original comment about trolls, not even Ringtone has said as much as you and right now he is the troll leader in chief.[/p][/quote]You never saw the performance today, so why even make a opinion? Seriously! You make the obvious sound so interesting ! A draw against forest away is a good draw, a draw against a side in turmoil when we need to win games, obviously you can only comment on the rsult because frankly you have no idea what happens at the Amex today. Me being a troll? Season ticket holder for 15 out of last 20 odd seasons. I plan my holidays around our season! mark by the sea
  • Score: 1

9:20pm Mon 21 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

OldGull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
saraman wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.
Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll.
Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.
Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season
Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend.

I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke.

if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.
Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling
Complaining about the performance is not trolling, I agree, and I have not suggested otherwise. However, invoking my name when I have deliberately not posted IS, as you are apparently deliberately trying to provoke me (the dictionary definition of trolling).

Trolling also includes the antics of people like Ringtone who genuinely delight in any disappointing result (and this I believe was the thrust of Vegas's initial post).

PS: I AM a real fan, and I am also gutted, as I always am when we drop points. Please, PLEASE do not confuse occasional non-attendance with not being a real fan. It is very insulting.
Sorry , but some stupid comments from Vegas tonight!
Had we won we would just have needed a win friday! The whole championship seem to be helping us reach the play offs! And we are doing our best to not accept it! Saying a draw is acceptable is ridiculous
Just a thought, but the same argument could be put about Forest, Reading,Ipswich & Bournemouth.
Most seasons this happens,
The players nerves get the better of them and teams that are expected to win don't.
It happens in the prem Chelsea have just lost to Norwich & Sunderland.
Everton got themselves into 4th then lose at home to Palace.

As it stands today's point could be classed as important. It takes us 1point nearer the playoffs.
Yes of course we could & should have beaten Blackpool.
But we didn't, OG put out an attacking line up but they were unable to deliver. That does not mean they were not trying.
I am a season ticket holder, and found today frustrating but unlike you, my glass is STILL half full.
That does not make either of us more or less of a supporter.
And just because Arnie does not get to all the games is he less of a supporter. When my children were very young I did not see as many matches as I would have liked, but I was still 100% Albion
Anyway 6pts from the next 2 games should do it
UTA
We have been unable to deliver far to many times, OG changed tactics today! Why? Lingard and lua lua were miles away from ulloa, if nerves are a big part of the run in, we must pick players who have been there.. Cms looked a lost sole, chases everything, but where is the touch?
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll. Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.[/p][/quote]Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season[/p][/quote]Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend. I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke. if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.[/p][/quote]Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling[/p][/quote]Complaining about the performance is not trolling, I agree, and I have not suggested otherwise. However, invoking my name when I have deliberately not posted IS, as you are apparently deliberately trying to provoke me (the dictionary definition of trolling). Trolling also includes the antics of people like Ringtone who genuinely delight in any disappointing result (and this I believe was the thrust of Vegas's initial post). PS: I AM a real fan, and I am also gutted, as I always am when we drop points. Please, PLEASE do not confuse occasional non-attendance with not being a real fan. It is very insulting.[/p][/quote]Sorry , but some stupid comments from Vegas tonight! Had we won we would just have needed a win friday! The whole championship seem to be helping us reach the play offs! And we are doing our best to not accept it! Saying a draw is acceptable is ridiculous[/p][/quote]Just a thought, but the same argument could be put about Forest, Reading,Ipswich & Bournemouth. Most seasons this happens, The players nerves get the better of them and teams that are expected to win don't. It happens in the prem Chelsea have just lost to Norwich & Sunderland. Everton got themselves into 4th then lose at home to Palace. As it stands today's point could be classed as important. It takes us 1point nearer the playoffs. Yes of course we could & should have beaten Blackpool. But we didn't, OG put out an attacking line up but they were unable to deliver. That does not mean they were not trying. I am a season ticket holder, and found today frustrating but unlike you, my glass is STILL half full. That does not make either of us more or less of a supporter. And just because Arnie does not get to all the games is he less of a supporter. When my children were very young I did not see as many matches as I would have liked, but I was still 100% Albion Anyway 6pts from the next 2 games should do it UTA[/p][/quote]We have been unable to deliver far to many times, OG changed tactics today! Why? Lingard and lua lua were miles away from ulloa, if nerves are a big part of the run in, we must pick players who have been there.. Cms looked a lost sole, chases everything, but where is the touch? mark by the sea
  • Score: 0

9:24pm Mon 21 Apr 14

OldGull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
OldGull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
saraman wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.
Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll.
Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.
Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season
Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend.

I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke.

if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.
Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling
Complaining about the performance is not trolling, I agree, and I have not suggested otherwise. However, invoking my name when I have deliberately not posted IS, as you are apparently deliberately trying to provoke me (the dictionary definition of trolling).

Trolling also includes the antics of people like Ringtone who genuinely delight in any disappointing result (and this I believe was the thrust of Vegas's initial post).

PS: I AM a real fan, and I am also gutted, as I always am when we drop points. Please, PLEASE do not confuse occasional non-attendance with not being a real fan. It is very insulting.
Sorry , but some stupid comments from Vegas tonight!
Had we won we would just have needed a win friday! The whole championship seem to be helping us reach the play offs! And we are doing our best to not accept it! Saying a draw is acceptable is ridiculous
Just a thought, but the same argument could be put about Forest, Reading,Ipswich & Bournemouth.
Most seasons this happens,
The players nerves get the better of them and teams that are expected to win don't.
It happens in the prem Chelsea have just lost to Norwich & Sunderland.
Everton got themselves into 4th then lose at home to Palace.

As it stands today's point could be classed as important. It takes us 1point nearer the playoffs.
Yes of course we could & should have beaten Blackpool.
But we didn't, OG put out an attacking line up but they were unable to deliver. That does not mean they were not trying.
I am a season ticket holder, and found today frustrating but unlike you, my glass is STILL half full.
That does not make either of us more or less of a supporter.
And just because Arnie does not get to all the games is he less of a supporter. When my children were very young I did not see as many matches as I would have liked, but I was still 100% Albion
Anyway 6pts from the next 2 games should do it
UTA
We have been unable to deliver far to many times, OG changed tactics today! Why? Lingard and lua lua were miles away from ulloa, if nerves are a big part of the run in, we must pick players who have been there.. Cms looked a lost sole, chases everything, but where is the touch?
CMS never really had the touch for us before his injury
Full of running but not often the end product.
A lot of people were calling for his inclusion.
So on that decision OG is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll. Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.[/p][/quote]Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season[/p][/quote]Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend. I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke. if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.[/p][/quote]Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling[/p][/quote]Complaining about the performance is not trolling, I agree, and I have not suggested otherwise. However, invoking my name when I have deliberately not posted IS, as you are apparently deliberately trying to provoke me (the dictionary definition of trolling). Trolling also includes the antics of people like Ringtone who genuinely delight in any disappointing result (and this I believe was the thrust of Vegas's initial post). PS: I AM a real fan, and I am also gutted, as I always am when we drop points. Please, PLEASE do not confuse occasional non-attendance with not being a real fan. It is very insulting.[/p][/quote]Sorry , but some stupid comments from Vegas tonight! Had we won we would just have needed a win friday! The whole championship seem to be helping us reach the play offs! And we are doing our best to not accept it! Saying a draw is acceptable is ridiculous[/p][/quote]Just a thought, but the same argument could be put about Forest, Reading,Ipswich & Bournemouth. Most seasons this happens, The players nerves get the better of them and teams that are expected to win don't. It happens in the prem Chelsea have just lost to Norwich & Sunderland. Everton got themselves into 4th then lose at home to Palace. As it stands today's point could be classed as important. It takes us 1point nearer the playoffs. Yes of course we could & should have beaten Blackpool. But we didn't, OG put out an attacking line up but they were unable to deliver. That does not mean they were not trying. I am a season ticket holder, and found today frustrating but unlike you, my glass is STILL half full. That does not make either of us more or less of a supporter. And just because Arnie does not get to all the games is he less of a supporter. When my children were very young I did not see as many matches as I would have liked, but I was still 100% Albion Anyway 6pts from the next 2 games should do it UTA[/p][/quote]We have been unable to deliver far to many times, OG changed tactics today! Why? Lingard and lua lua were miles away from ulloa, if nerves are a big part of the run in, we must pick players who have been there.. Cms looked a lost sole, chases everything, but where is the touch?[/p][/quote]CMS never really had the touch for us before his injury Full of running but not often the end product. A lot of people were calling for his inclusion. So on that decision OG is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. OldGull
  • Score: -1

9:29pm Mon 21 Apr 14

ballantrrae says...

Alfie T wrote:
Andrews out and Ince in.
Agree absolutely.
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: Andrews out and Ince in.[/p][/quote]Agree absolutely. ballantrrae
  • Score: 4

9:37pm Mon 21 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
saraman wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.
Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll.
Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.
Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season
Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend.

I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke.

if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.
Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling
Complaining about the performance is not trolling, I agree, and I have not suggested otherwise. However, invoking my name when I have deliberately not posted IS, as you are apparently deliberately trying to provoke me (the dictionary definition of trolling).

Trolling also includes the antics of people like Ringtone who genuinely delight in any disappointing result (and this I believe was the thrust of Vegas's initial post).

PS: I AM a real fan, and I am also gutted, as I always am when we drop points. Please, PLEASE do not confuse occasional non-attendance with not being a real fan. It is very insulting.
Sorry , but some stupid comments from Vegas tonight!
Had we won we would just have needed a win friday! The whole championship seem to be helping us reach the play offs! And we are doing our best to not accept it! Saying a draw is acceptable is ridiculous
so what you are peed off about is that we didn't win, yeah I get that, but how the heck can you say that if we don't win, for what ever reason, a draw is unacceptable, I just don't get that. You can be as annoyed as you want about us not winning, it was a match that we had expected to get 3 points from, but why harp on about the negative and ignore the positive, even if the positive is not all that great.
We are still in the hunt, doesn't that matter to you or can you only find good in 3 points? Glass is always half empty with you Mark, as your stated opinion that Ocar won't last long next year, even tho you have no idea what shape our squad will take come the start of a new campaign.
Just a small point but I have to ask, why have you been the most defensive when commenting on my original comment about trolls, not even Ringtone has said as much as you and right now he is the troll leader in chief.
You never saw the performance today, so why even make a opinion? Seriously! You make the obvious sound so interesting ! A draw against forest away is a good draw, a draw against a side in turmoil when we need to win games, obviously you can only comment on the rsult because frankly you have no idea what happens at the Amex today.
Me being a troll? Season ticket holder for 15 out of last 20 odd seasons.
I plan my holidays around our season!
And there lies the truth of it doesn't it Mark, if a person doesn't attend the matches, in your world he has no voice, has no right to an opinion, in fact he/she should just visit the site to read your, and others, comments.

'You never saw the performance today, so why even make an opinion,' says it all doesn't it, even tho my comments have been restricted to the fact that we gained a point an what that point might mean. My glass is half full Mark.

Any pensioners that can't afford to go but still support the team, take note of Mark's comment. Anyone out of work and also can't afford to go, you get the same from Mark. Those of us that live way too far away, we too should just shut the duck up, but none of us need worry, Mark will tell us what to think, after all, he attends every match.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll. Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.[/p][/quote]Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season[/p][/quote]Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend. I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke. if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.[/p][/quote]Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling[/p][/quote]Complaining about the performance is not trolling, I agree, and I have not suggested otherwise. However, invoking my name when I have deliberately not posted IS, as you are apparently deliberately trying to provoke me (the dictionary definition of trolling). Trolling also includes the antics of people like Ringtone who genuinely delight in any disappointing result (and this I believe was the thrust of Vegas's initial post). PS: I AM a real fan, and I am also gutted, as I always am when we drop points. Please, PLEASE do not confuse occasional non-attendance with not being a real fan. It is very insulting.[/p][/quote]Sorry , but some stupid comments from Vegas tonight! Had we won we would just have needed a win friday! The whole championship seem to be helping us reach the play offs! And we are doing our best to not accept it! Saying a draw is acceptable is ridiculous[/p][/quote]so what you are peed off about is that we didn't win, yeah I get that, but how the heck can you say that if we don't win, for what ever reason, a draw is unacceptable, I just don't get that. You can be as annoyed as you want about us not winning, it was a match that we had expected to get 3 points from, but why harp on about the negative and ignore the positive, even if the positive is not all that great. We are still in the hunt, doesn't that matter to you or can you only find good in 3 points? Glass is always half empty with you Mark, as your stated opinion that Ocar won't last long next year, even tho you have no idea what shape our squad will take come the start of a new campaign. Just a small point but I have to ask, why have you been the most defensive when commenting on my original comment about trolls, not even Ringtone has said as much as you and right now he is the troll leader in chief.[/p][/quote]You never saw the performance today, so why even make a opinion? Seriously! You make the obvious sound so interesting ! A draw against forest away is a good draw, a draw against a side in turmoil when we need to win games, obviously you can only comment on the rsult because frankly you have no idea what happens at the Amex today. Me being a troll? Season ticket holder for 15 out of last 20 odd seasons. I plan my holidays around our season![/p][/quote]And there lies the truth of it doesn't it Mark, if a person doesn't attend the matches, in your world he has no voice, has no right to an opinion, in fact he/she should just visit the site to read your, and others, comments. 'You never saw the performance today, so why even make an opinion,' says it all doesn't it, even tho my comments have been restricted to the fact that we gained a point an what that point might mean. My glass is half full Mark. Any pensioners that can't afford to go but still support the team, take note of Mark's comment. Anyone out of work and also can't afford to go, you get the same from Mark. Those of us that live way too far away, we too should just shut the duck up, but none of us need worry, Mark will tell us what to think, after all, he attends every match. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

9:59pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Seagulls via LCFC says...

Very disappointed especially after two good games and results against Leicester and Charlton. Main problem today was a total lack of commitment and creativity especially in midfield. Gave the ball away too often and too easily. Professional footballers should be able to get a good cross in from corners and free kicks but too many were over hit. Refs must have been told that KLL falls over too easily and so he didn't get many decisions in his favour even when blatantly fouled. March had an off day and deserved to go off. KLL doesn't always keep the ball but at least he tries to get by players and attacks defence. Andrews didn't have a good game so could play Ince instead on Friday. Put CMS on from the start with Ulloa instead of Lingard. If it isn't working then swap them over at half time. Still there for sixth place but probably down to the last game. Glad I have my ticket for Forest game!
Very disappointed especially after two good games and results against Leicester and Charlton. Main problem today was a total lack of commitment and creativity especially in midfield. Gave the ball away too often and too easily. Professional footballers should be able to get a good cross in from corners and free kicks but too many were over hit. Refs must have been told that KLL falls over too easily and so he didn't get many decisions in his favour even when blatantly fouled. March had an off day and deserved to go off. KLL doesn't always keep the ball but at least he tries to get by players and attacks defence. Andrews didn't have a good game so could play Ince instead on Friday. Put CMS on from the start with Ulloa instead of Lingard. If it isn't working then swap them over at half time. Still there for sixth place but probably down to the last game. Glad I have my ticket for Forest game! Seagulls via LCFC
  • Score: 3

10:01pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Gazza by the sea says...

Anyway, about the football............
Anyway, about the football............ Gazza by the sea
  • Score: 2

10:19pm Mon 21 Apr 14

pte says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
We wanted three points but didn't get them, but we did get a point and when in the chase for a play-off place, the most important thing is not to lose at this stage of the season. Ipswich and Bournemouth had the same problem, wanted all three but got just one. Reading will start their match with exactly the same wish tomorrow. Nothing is decided.

It is probably a good idea to stay away from this forum for two or three days, let the trolls have it to themselves, and let them have at it. If they are on their own at least they won't annoy any real fan.
What nonsense you talk, you were not there yet you talk the talk, watch forest coming up from the depth, Reading and Bournemouth shared the points because they are both chasing a play off spot!
How the hell can you say everything is ok when we struggled today against Blackpool who have been in free fall for 15 games!
2 wins from last 9 games, not good enough.
Personally I would be too embarrased to go into such long winded intricate detail as Vegas having not gone to a match. But somehow he just carries on digging a bigger hole for himself.

If we'd have won today and the Yeovil match we could have afforded to lose at Forest. Now we have to win at Forest.

If we win the next two I think we'll reach the play offs but it's a case of if.....
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: We wanted three points but didn't get them, but we did get a point and when in the chase for a play-off place, the most important thing is not to lose at this stage of the season. Ipswich and Bournemouth had the same problem, wanted all three but got just one. Reading will start their match with exactly the same wish tomorrow. Nothing is decided. It is probably a good idea to stay away from this forum for two or three days, let the trolls have it to themselves, and let them have at it. If they are on their own at least they won't annoy any real fan.[/p][/quote]What nonsense you talk, you were not there yet you talk the talk, watch forest coming up from the depth, Reading and Bournemouth shared the points because they are both chasing a play off spot! How the hell can you say everything is ok when we struggled today against Blackpool who have been in free fall for 15 games! 2 wins from last 9 games, not good enough.[/p][/quote]Personally I would be too embarrased to go into such long winded intricate detail as Vegas having not gone to a match. But somehow he just carries on digging a bigger hole for himself. If we'd have won today and the Yeovil match we could have afforded to lose at Forest. Now we have to win at Forest. If we win the next two I think we'll reach the play offs but it's a case of if..... pte
  • Score: 0

10:26pm Mon 21 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

pte wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
We wanted three points but didn't get them, but we did get a point and when in the chase for a play-off place, the most important thing is not to lose at this stage of the season. Ipswich and Bournemouth had the same problem, wanted all three but got just one. Reading will start their match with exactly the same wish tomorrow. Nothing is decided.

It is probably a good idea to stay away from this forum for two or three days, let the trolls have it to themselves, and let them have at it. If they are on their own at least they won't annoy any real fan.
What nonsense you talk, you were not there yet you talk the talk, watch forest coming up from the depth, Reading and Bournemouth shared the points because they are both chasing a play off spot!
How the hell can you say everything is ok when we struggled today against Blackpool who have been in free fall for 15 games!
2 wins from last 9 games, not good enough.
Personally I would be too embarrased to go into such long winded intricate detail as Vegas having not gone to a match. But somehow he just carries on digging a bigger hole for himself.

If we'd have won today and the Yeovil match we could have afforded to lose at Forest. Now we have to win at Forest.

If we win the next two I think we'll reach the play offs but it's a case of if.....
show me my long winded comment re this match
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: We wanted three points but didn't get them, but we did get a point and when in the chase for a play-off place, the most important thing is not to lose at this stage of the season. Ipswich and Bournemouth had the same problem, wanted all three but got just one. Reading will start their match with exactly the same wish tomorrow. Nothing is decided. It is probably a good idea to stay away from this forum for two or three days, let the trolls have it to themselves, and let them have at it. If they are on their own at least they won't annoy any real fan.[/p][/quote]What nonsense you talk, you were not there yet you talk the talk, watch forest coming up from the depth, Reading and Bournemouth shared the points because they are both chasing a play off spot! How the hell can you say everything is ok when we struggled today against Blackpool who have been in free fall for 15 games! 2 wins from last 9 games, not good enough.[/p][/quote]Personally I would be too embarrased to go into such long winded intricate detail as Vegas having not gone to a match. But somehow he just carries on digging a bigger hole for himself. If we'd have won today and the Yeovil match we could have afforded to lose at Forest. Now we have to win at Forest. If we win the next two I think we'll reach the play offs but it's a case of if.....[/p][/quote]show me my long winded comment re this match VegasSeagull
  • Score: -3

10:48pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Gazza by the sea says...

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  • Score: 1

10:53pm Mon 21 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
saraman wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.
Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll.
Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.
Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season
Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend.

I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke.

if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.
Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling
Complaining about the performance is not trolling, I agree, and I have not suggested otherwise. However, invoking my name when I have deliberately not posted IS, as you are apparently deliberately trying to provoke me (the dictionary definition of trolling).

Trolling also includes the antics of people like Ringtone who genuinely delight in any disappointing result (and this I believe was the thrust of Vegas's initial post).

PS: I AM a real fan, and I am also gutted, as I always am when we drop points. Please, PLEASE do not confuse occasional non-attendance with not being a real fan. It is very insulting.
Sorry , but some stupid comments from Vegas tonight!
Had we won we would just have needed a win friday! The whole championship seem to be helping us reach the play offs! And we are doing our best to not accept it! Saying a draw is acceptable is ridiculous
so what you are peed off about is that we didn't win, yeah I get that, but how the heck can you say that if we don't win, for what ever reason, a draw is unacceptable, I just don't get that. You can be as annoyed as you want about us not winning, it was a match that we had expected to get 3 points from, but why harp on about the negative and ignore the positive, even if the positive is not all that great.
We are still in the hunt, doesn't that matter to you or can you only find good in 3 points? Glass is always half empty with you Mark, as your stated opinion that Ocar won't last long next year, even tho you have no idea what shape our squad will take come the start of a new campaign.
Just a small point but I have to ask, why have you been the most defensive when commenting on my original comment about trolls, not even Ringtone has said as much as you and right now he is the troll leader in chief.
You never saw the performance today, so why even make a opinion? Seriously! You make the obvious sound so interesting ! A draw against forest away is a good draw, a draw against a side in turmoil when we need to win games, obviously you can only comment on the rsult because frankly you have no idea what happens at the Amex today.
Me being a troll? Season ticket holder for 15 out of last 20 odd seasons.
I plan my holidays around our season!
And there lies the truth of it doesn't it Mark, if a person doesn't attend the matches, in your world he has no voice, has no right to an opinion, in fact he/she should just visit the site to read your, and others, comments.

'You never saw the performance today, so why even make an opinion,' says it all doesn't it, even tho my comments have been restricted to the fact that we gained a point an what that point might mean. My glass is half full Mark.

Any pensioners that can't afford to go but still support the team, take note of Mark's comment. Anyone out of work and also can't afford to go, you get the same from Mark. Those of us that live way too far away, we too should just shut the duck up, but none of us need worry, Mark will tell us what to think, after all, he attends every match.
So people who did not go want to read your nonsense! A opinion based on what ??the result? The result can be the opposite of the performance, ie the Wigan match,
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll. Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.[/p][/quote]Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season[/p][/quote]Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend. I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke. if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.[/p][/quote]Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling[/p][/quote]Complaining about the performance is not trolling, I agree, and I have not suggested otherwise. However, invoking my name when I have deliberately not posted IS, as you are apparently deliberately trying to provoke me (the dictionary definition of trolling). Trolling also includes the antics of people like Ringtone who genuinely delight in any disappointing result (and this I believe was the thrust of Vegas's initial post). PS: I AM a real fan, and I am also gutted, as I always am when we drop points. Please, PLEASE do not confuse occasional non-attendance with not being a real fan. It is very insulting.[/p][/quote]Sorry , but some stupid comments from Vegas tonight! Had we won we would just have needed a win friday! The whole championship seem to be helping us reach the play offs! And we are doing our best to not accept it! Saying a draw is acceptable is ridiculous[/p][/quote]so what you are peed off about is that we didn't win, yeah I get that, but how the heck can you say that if we don't win, for what ever reason, a draw is unacceptable, I just don't get that. You can be as annoyed as you want about us not winning, it was a match that we had expected to get 3 points from, but why harp on about the negative and ignore the positive, even if the positive is not all that great. We are still in the hunt, doesn't that matter to you or can you only find good in 3 points? Glass is always half empty with you Mark, as your stated opinion that Ocar won't last long next year, even tho you have no idea what shape our squad will take come the start of a new campaign. Just a small point but I have to ask, why have you been the most defensive when commenting on my original comment about trolls, not even Ringtone has said as much as you and right now he is the troll leader in chief.[/p][/quote]You never saw the performance today, so why even make a opinion? Seriously! You make the obvious sound so interesting ! A draw against forest away is a good draw, a draw against a side in turmoil when we need to win games, obviously you can only comment on the rsult because frankly you have no idea what happens at the Amex today. Me being a troll? Season ticket holder for 15 out of last 20 odd seasons. I plan my holidays around our season![/p][/quote]And there lies the truth of it doesn't it Mark, if a person doesn't attend the matches, in your world he has no voice, has no right to an opinion, in fact he/she should just visit the site to read your, and others, comments. 'You never saw the performance today, so why even make an opinion,' says it all doesn't it, even tho my comments have been restricted to the fact that we gained a point an what that point might mean. My glass is half full Mark. Any pensioners that can't afford to go but still support the team, take note of Mark's comment. Anyone out of work and also can't afford to go, you get the same from Mark. Those of us that live way too far away, we too should just shut the duck up, but none of us need worry, Mark will tell us what to think, after all, he attends every match.[/p][/quote]So people who did not go want to read your nonsense! A opinion based on what ??the result? The result can be the opposite of the performance, ie the Wigan match, mark by the sea
  • Score: 2

11:02pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Hugothepug says...

reagull wrote:
Lost count how many times Andrews gave the ball away, Is the training pitch a third bigger than the Amex pitch, how can nearly every free kick and corner be over hit? I would not be allowed to do my job that badly and get away with it!
Spot on - virtually every player had a go and over hit balls from every position on the pitch. Just don't understand it! Ward was the most successful - one of which led to our goal. Andrews and then Greer had the chance to clear the ball before 'Dobin' latched on.

After some of the woeful performances this season I can't fathom how we are still 6th and in with a shout of the play offs. Reckon we are going to need a point against Forest in our last game but looks like they have hit a bit at form at the perfect time. If it don't happen there are going to be so many games/situations we will be able to look back on and squirm.

On a completely different note the youngster at centre back - Mac Gahey looks a good prospect.

Am seriously gutted tonight!!
[quote][p][bold]reagull[/bold] wrote: Lost count how many times Andrews gave the ball away, Is the training pitch a third bigger than the Amex pitch, how can nearly every free kick and corner be over hit? I would not be allowed to do my job that badly and get away with it![/p][/quote]Spot on - virtually every player had a go and over hit balls from every position on the pitch. Just don't understand it! Ward was the most successful - one of which led to our goal. Andrews and then Greer had the chance to clear the ball before 'Dobin' latched on. After some of the woeful performances this season I can't fathom how we are still 6th and in with a shout of the play offs. Reckon we are going to need a point against Forest in our last game but looks like they have hit a bit at form at the perfect time. If it don't happen there are going to be so many games/situations we will be able to look back on and squirm. On a completely different note the youngster at centre back - Mac Gahey looks a good prospect. Am seriously gutted tonight!! Hugothepug
  • Score: 3

11:28pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Free money says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Desire from the manager, passionless performance..
Substitutions were wrong, cms is way off match ready, .. Big question is are we really serious about going up? We simply are not creative in situations.
The game called out for a creative player .. Augustin would have been perfect, he was in the casino in the marina last night, no doubt enjoying his 10k a week..
So disheartened tonight.
You are correct yet again MBTS..Vile freeloaders playing for championship contracts yet again.Its the fans like you and me i feel sorry for.That was pure rubbish yet again.Dunk & Hoskins almost have the contracts in the bag for next season.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Desire from the manager, passionless performance.. Substitutions were wrong, cms is way off match ready, .. Big question is are we really serious about going up? We simply are not creative in situations. The game called out for a creative player .. Augustin would have been perfect, he was in the casino in the marina last night, no doubt enjoying his 10k a week.. So disheartened tonight.[/p][/quote]You are correct yet again MBTS..Vile freeloaders playing for championship contracts yet again.Its the fans like you and me i feel sorry for.That was pure rubbish yet again.Dunk & Hoskins almost have the contracts in the bag for next season. Free money
  • Score: -1

11:33pm Mon 21 Apr 14

KeefyH69 says...

arc12 wrote:
A bit of passion from the Manager for a start ! It looked like Oscar was getting ready for his holidays rather than trying to motivate the players. And then a few shots on target wouldn't go amiss - 1 in the first half and 2 or 3 in the second. I for one expected today to see the Blackpool keeper performing heroics to keep his side in the game but he could have sat there reading a book he had so little to do. Opportunity wasted.
The guy came here during a time of absolute turmoil, without speaking a word of English, lost some of our most influential players, yet has brought us within a whisker of the play - offs and STILL no one is satisfied. Of COURSE were disappointed, we wouldn't be human if we weren't but these are not machine's that can perform at the flick of a switch. Why all the animosity directed towards Vegas? At least he's a genuine fan!
[quote][p][bold]arc12[/bold] wrote: A bit of passion from the Manager for a start ! It looked like Oscar was getting ready for his holidays rather than trying to motivate the players. And then a few shots on target wouldn't go amiss - 1 in the first half and 2 or 3 in the second. I for one expected today to see the Blackpool keeper performing heroics to keep his side in the game but he could have sat there reading a book he had so little to do. Opportunity wasted.[/p][/quote]The guy came here during a time of absolute turmoil, without speaking a word of English, lost some of our most influential players, yet has brought us within a whisker of the play - offs and STILL no one is satisfied. Of COURSE were disappointed, we wouldn't be human if we weren't but these are not machine's that can perform at the flick of a switch. Why all the animosity directed towards Vegas? At least he's a genuine fan! KeefyH69
  • Score: 1

11:35pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Free money says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
saraman wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.
Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll.
Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.
Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season
Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend.

I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke.

if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.
Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling
Complaining about the performance is not trolling, I agree, and I have not suggested otherwise. However, invoking my name when I have deliberately not posted IS, as you are apparently deliberately trying to provoke me (the dictionary definition of trolling).

Trolling also includes the antics of people like Ringtone who genuinely delight in any disappointing result (and this I believe was the thrust of Vegas's initial post).

PS: I AM a real fan, and I am also gutted, as I always am when we drop points. Please, PLEASE do not confuse occasional non-attendance with not being a real fan. It is very insulting.
Sorry , but some stupid comments from Vegas tonight!
Had we won we would just have needed a win friday! The whole championship seem to be helping us reach the play offs! And we are doing our best to not accept it! Saying a draw is acceptable is ridiculous
so what you are peed off about is that we didn't win, yeah I get that, but how the heck can you say that if we don't win, for what ever reason, a draw is unacceptable, I just don't get that. You can be as annoyed as you want about us not winning, it was a match that we had expected to get 3 points from, but why harp on about the negative and ignore the positive, even if the positive is not all that great.
We are still in the hunt, doesn't that matter to you or can you only find good in 3 points? Glass is always half empty with you Mark, as your stated opinion that Ocar won't last long next year, even tho you have no idea what shape our squad will take come the start of a new campaign.
Just a small point but I have to ask, why have you been the most defensive when commenting on my original comment about trolls, not even Ringtone has said as much as you and right now he is the troll leader in chief.
You never saw the performance today, so why even make a opinion? Seriously! You make the obvious sound so interesting ! A draw against forest away is a good draw, a draw against a side in turmoil when we need to win games, obviously you can only comment on the rsult because frankly you have no idea what happens at the Amex today.
Me being a troll? Season ticket holder for 15 out of last 20 odd seasons.
I plan my holidays around our season!
And there lies the truth of it doesn't it Mark, if a person doesn't attend the matches, in your world he has no voice, has no right to an opinion, in fact he/she should just visit the site to read your, and others, comments.

'You never saw the performance today, so why even make an opinion,' says it all doesn't it, even tho my comments have been restricted to the fact that we gained a point an what that point might mean. My glass is half full Mark.

Any pensioners that can't afford to go but still support the team, take note of Mark's comment. Anyone out of work and also can't afford to go, you get the same from Mark. Those of us that live way too far away, we too should just shut the duck up, but none of us need worry, Mark will tell us what to think, after all, he attends every match.
So people who did not go want to read your nonsense! A opinion based on what ??the result? The result can be the opposite of the performance, ie the Wigan match,
Outstanding MBTS.They withhold their numbers when they phone the Argus.Such big brave men lol haha.But like you say mark its not their money.Dunk was pure rubbish at Hudds but OG is put under presure to play it again because of the gangsters.Kaz is never prem-league in a million years but now along with Dunk,Hoskins,and Augustien will get more free money next season.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll. Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.[/p][/quote]Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season[/p][/quote]Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend. I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke. if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.[/p][/quote]Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling[/p][/quote]Complaining about the performance is not trolling, I agree, and I have not suggested otherwise. However, invoking my name when I have deliberately not posted IS, as you are apparently deliberately trying to provoke me (the dictionary definition of trolling). Trolling also includes the antics of people like Ringtone who genuinely delight in any disappointing result (and this I believe was the thrust of Vegas's initial post). PS: I AM a real fan, and I am also gutted, as I always am when we drop points. Please, PLEASE do not confuse occasional non-attendance with not being a real fan. It is very insulting.[/p][/quote]Sorry , but some stupid comments from Vegas tonight! Had we won we would just have needed a win friday! The whole championship seem to be helping us reach the play offs! And we are doing our best to not accept it! Saying a draw is acceptable is ridiculous[/p][/quote]so what you are peed off about is that we didn't win, yeah I get that, but how the heck can you say that if we don't win, for what ever reason, a draw is unacceptable, I just don't get that. You can be as annoyed as you want about us not winning, it was a match that we had expected to get 3 points from, but why harp on about the negative and ignore the positive, even if the positive is not all that great. We are still in the hunt, doesn't that matter to you or can you only find good in 3 points? Glass is always half empty with you Mark, as your stated opinion that Ocar won't last long next year, even tho you have no idea what shape our squad will take come the start of a new campaign. Just a small point but I have to ask, why have you been the most defensive when commenting on my original comment about trolls, not even Ringtone has said as much as you and right now he is the troll leader in chief.[/p][/quote]You never saw the performance today, so why even make a opinion? Seriously! You make the obvious sound so interesting ! A draw against forest away is a good draw, a draw against a side in turmoil when we need to win games, obviously you can only comment on the rsult because frankly you have no idea what happens at the Amex today. Me being a troll? Season ticket holder for 15 out of last 20 odd seasons. I plan my holidays around our season![/p][/quote]And there lies the truth of it doesn't it Mark, if a person doesn't attend the matches, in your world he has no voice, has no right to an opinion, in fact he/she should just visit the site to read your, and others, comments. 'You never saw the performance today, so why even make an opinion,' says it all doesn't it, even tho my comments have been restricted to the fact that we gained a point an what that point might mean. My glass is half full Mark. Any pensioners that can't afford to go but still support the team, take note of Mark's comment. Anyone out of work and also can't afford to go, you get the same from Mark. Those of us that live way too far away, we too should just shut the duck up, but none of us need worry, Mark will tell us what to think, after all, he attends every match.[/p][/quote]So people who did not go want to read your nonsense! A opinion based on what ??the result? The result can be the opposite of the performance, ie the Wigan match,[/p][/quote]Outstanding MBTS.They withhold their numbers when they phone the Argus.Such big brave men lol haha.But like you say mark its not their money.Dunk was pure rubbish at Hudds but OG is put under presure to play it again because of the gangsters.Kaz is never prem-league in a million years but now along with Dunk,Hoskins,and Augustien will get more free money next season. Free money
  • Score: -2

11:40pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Same team, different performances. This is what makes coaching a football club such a difficult task. OG has picked roughly the same XI most on here would choose, yet the way they have played has varied enormously.

This is what makes football such a great game - the sheer unpredictability of it.
Same team, different performances. This is what makes coaching a football club such a difficult task. OG has picked roughly the same XI most on here would choose, yet the way they have played has varied enormously. This is what makes football such a great game - the sheer unpredictability of it. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: -3

11:45pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Free money says...

Yes b4 you start i know Dunk did not play but the preasure was put on.God the Palace suits did their job bang on getting their right man in.Barker at Swindon pure rubbish all reports,Dickinson at Northhamton pure rubbish all reports.Get these vile freeloaders off the clubs wage bill now.C.M.S & Hoskins could never get the goals to take a team to the prem-league in a million years or they would already have bigger clubs after them.
Yes b4 you start i know Dunk did not play but the preasure was put on.God the Palace suits did their job bang on getting their right man in.Barker at Swindon pure rubbish all reports,Dickinson at Northhamton pure rubbish all reports.Get these vile freeloaders off the clubs wage bill now.C.M.S & Hoskins could never get the goals to take a team to the prem-league in a million years or they would already have bigger clubs after them. Free money
  • Score: -2

11:58pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

CMS had 'bigger' clubs after him before he signed for us...
CMS had 'bigger' clubs after him before he signed for us... Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: -1

12:32am Tue 22 Apr 14

Claude Back says...

daughter-of-manag wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
We wanted three points but didn't get them, but we did get a point and when in the chase for a play-off place, the most important thing is not to lose at this stage of the season. Ipswich and Bournemouth had the same problem, wanted all three but got just one. Reading will start their match with exactly the same wish tomorrow. Nothing is decided.

It is probably a good idea to stay away from this forum for two or three days, let the trolls have it to themselves, and let them have at it. If they are on their own at least they won't annoy any real fan.
OMG Vagas, you are such a prima doña . You sit 1000's of miles away and make your comments as if you are some kind of spokesperson for all things BHA! Everyone is entitled to an opinion and if it differs from yours, or if they pay to watch BHA and they are fed up with the team performance or. Management decisions. ...they are considered trolls? Please grow up and get a life.
You have hit the nail firmly on the thumb there, I feel, but you are right. ;-)
[quote][p][bold]daughter-of-manag[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: We wanted three points but didn't get them, but we did get a point and when in the chase for a play-off place, the most important thing is not to lose at this stage of the season. Ipswich and Bournemouth had the same problem, wanted all three but got just one. Reading will start their match with exactly the same wish tomorrow. Nothing is decided. It is probably a good idea to stay away from this forum for two or three days, let the trolls have it to themselves, and let them have at it. If they are on their own at least they won't annoy any real fan.[/p][/quote]OMG Vagas, you are such a prima doña . You sit 1000's of miles away and make your comments as if you are some kind of spokesperson for all things BHA! Everyone is entitled to an opinion and if it differs from yours, or if they pay to watch BHA and they are fed up with the team performance or. Management decisions. ...they are considered trolls? Please grow up and get a life.[/p][/quote]You have hit the nail firmly on the thumb there, I feel, but you are right. ;-) Claude Back
  • Score: 4

12:54am Tue 22 Apr 14

Free money says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
CMS had 'bigger' clubs after him before he signed for us...
They wouldn't pay his wages you mug.Plus Barrys daughter wanted a house down south and the kids in a good school.Grow up or get a life sad man.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: CMS had 'bigger' clubs after him before he signed for us...[/p][/quote]They wouldn't pay his wages you mug.Plus Barrys daughter wanted a house down south and the kids in a good school.Grow up or get a life sad man. Free money
  • Score: -1

12:56am Tue 22 Apr 14

Claude Back says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
saraman wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.
Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll.
Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.
Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season
Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend.

I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke.

if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.
Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling
Complaining about the performance is not trolling, I agree, and I have not suggested otherwise. However, invoking my name when I have deliberately not posted IS, as you are apparently deliberately trying to provoke me (the dictionary definition of trolling).

Trolling also includes the antics of people like Ringtone who genuinely delight in any disappointing result (and this I believe was the thrust of Vegas's initial post).

PS: I AM a real fan, and I am also gutted, as I always am when we drop points. Please, PLEASE do not confuse occasional non-attendance with not being a real fan. It is very insulting.
Sorry , but some stupid comments from Vegas tonight!
Had we won we would just have needed a win friday! The whole championship seem to be helping us reach the play offs! And we are doing our best to not accept it! Saying a draw is acceptable is ridiculous
so what you are peed off about is that we didn't win, yeah I get that, but how the heck can you say that if we don't win, for what ever reason, a draw is unacceptable, I just don't get that. You can be as annoyed as you want about us not winning, it was a match that we had expected to get 3 points from, but why harp on about the negative and ignore the positive, even if the positive is not all that great.
We are still in the hunt, doesn't that matter to you or can you only find good in 3 points? Glass is always half empty with you Mark, as your stated opinion that Ocar won't last long next year, even tho you have no idea what shape our squad will take come the start of a new campaign.
Just a small point but I have to ask, why have you been the most defensive when commenting on my original comment about trolls, not even Ringtone has said as much as you and right now he is the troll leader in chief.
You never saw the performance today, so why even make a opinion? Seriously! You make the obvious sound so interesting ! A draw against forest away is a good draw, a draw against a side in turmoil when we need to win games, obviously you can only comment on the rsult because frankly you have no idea what happens at the Amex today.
Me being a troll? Season ticket holder for 15 out of last 20 odd seasons.
I plan my holidays around our season!
And there lies the truth of it doesn't it Mark, if a person doesn't attend the matches, in your world he has no voice, has no right to an opinion, in fact he/she should just visit the site to read your, and others, comments.

'You never saw the performance today, so why even make an opinion,' says it all doesn't it, even tho my comments have been restricted to the fact that we gained a point an what that point might mean. My glass is half full Mark.

Any pensioners that can't afford to go but still support the team, take note of Mark's comment. Anyone out of work and also can't afford to go, you get the same from Mark. Those of us that live way too far away, we too should just shut the duck up, but none of us need worry, Mark will tell us what to think, after all, he attends every match.
Vegas, why don't you understand?
It's not all about the points.It is about the manner of performance. Not every bad performance by any team is down to every manager but if you had to sit through the boring, predictable slow build up and pay expensively for it you would be cheesed off too. If you weren't then your taste would have to be questioned. It is so frustrating. Nearly all the pundits in the media say the same when they comment on an Albion game....no tempo, slow build up, too many passes without result, no shots on target etc. Merson, Walsh, Aspinall, Chivers and Salako have all made the same points on TV and Radio.
For about two games we changed and played with vigour and a bit more tempo but we have reverted back to the season's old ways it seems.
We all know that playing lower teams can be difficult ( I predicted draws for both this game and Huddersfield; it's that easy if you follow latest form and how a team actually plays, not league position) but why do we so often this season look lost and devoid of passion when it's most needed? Cannot always be 'nerves'.
We could do so much better, that's why O.G. is criticised. He doesn't motivate the players and T.B. knows this now. I wonder whether he will follow Man. U's example, which I believe is imminent, in sacking Moyes? Anyone could have got where we are this season with the decent squad left to us by Gus, like him or not. Many more could have done better.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll. Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.[/p][/quote]Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season[/p][/quote]Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend. I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke. if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.[/p][/quote]Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling[/p][/quote]Complaining about the performance is not trolling, I agree, and I have not suggested otherwise. However, invoking my name when I have deliberately not posted IS, as you are apparently deliberately trying to provoke me (the dictionary definition of trolling). Trolling also includes the antics of people like Ringtone who genuinely delight in any disappointing result (and this I believe was the thrust of Vegas's initial post). PS: I AM a real fan, and I am also gutted, as I always am when we drop points. Please, PLEASE do not confuse occasional non-attendance with not being a real fan. It is very insulting.[/p][/quote]Sorry , but some stupid comments from Vegas tonight! Had we won we would just have needed a win friday! The whole championship seem to be helping us reach the play offs! And we are doing our best to not accept it! Saying a draw is acceptable is ridiculous[/p][/quote]so what you are peed off about is that we didn't win, yeah I get that, but how the heck can you say that if we don't win, for what ever reason, a draw is unacceptable, I just don't get that. You can be as annoyed as you want about us not winning, it was a match that we had expected to get 3 points from, but why harp on about the negative and ignore the positive, even if the positive is not all that great. We are still in the hunt, doesn't that matter to you or can you only find good in 3 points? Glass is always half empty with you Mark, as your stated opinion that Ocar won't last long next year, even tho you have no idea what shape our squad will take come the start of a new campaign. Just a small point but I have to ask, why have you been the most defensive when commenting on my original comment about trolls, not even Ringtone has said as much as you and right now he is the troll leader in chief.[/p][/quote]You never saw the performance today, so why even make a opinion? Seriously! You make the obvious sound so interesting ! A draw against forest away is a good draw, a draw against a side in turmoil when we need to win games, obviously you can only comment on the rsult because frankly you have no idea what happens at the Amex today. Me being a troll? Season ticket holder for 15 out of last 20 odd seasons. I plan my holidays around our season![/p][/quote]And there lies the truth of it doesn't it Mark, if a person doesn't attend the matches, in your world he has no voice, has no right to an opinion, in fact he/she should just visit the site to read your, and others, comments. 'You never saw the performance today, so why even make an opinion,' says it all doesn't it, even tho my comments have been restricted to the fact that we gained a point an what that point might mean. My glass is half full Mark. Any pensioners that can't afford to go but still support the team, take note of Mark's comment. Anyone out of work and also can't afford to go, you get the same from Mark. Those of us that live way too far away, we too should just shut the duck up, but none of us need worry, Mark will tell us what to think, after all, he attends every match.[/p][/quote]Vegas, why don't you understand? It's not all about the points.It is about the manner of performance. Not every bad performance by any team is down to every manager but if you had to sit through the boring, predictable slow build up and pay expensively for it you would be cheesed off too. If you weren't then your taste would have to be questioned. It is so frustrating. Nearly all the pundits in the media say the same when they comment on an Albion game....no tempo, slow build up, too many passes without result, no shots on target etc. Merson, Walsh, Aspinall, Chivers and Salako have all made the same points on TV and Radio. For about two games we changed and played with vigour and a bit more tempo but we have reverted back to the season's old ways it seems. We all know that playing lower teams can be difficult ( I predicted draws for both this game and Huddersfield; it's that easy if you follow latest form and how a team actually plays, not league position) but why do we so often this season look lost and devoid of passion when it's most needed? Cannot always be 'nerves'. We could do so much better, that's why O.G. is criticised. He doesn't motivate the players and T.B. knows this now. I wonder whether he will follow Man. U's example, which I believe is imminent, in sacking Moyes? Anyone could have got where we are this season with the decent squad left to us by Gus, like him or not. Many more could have done better. Claude Back
  • Score: 6

1:28am Tue 22 Apr 14

Free money says...

Claude Back wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
saraman wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.
Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll.
Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.
Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season
Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend.

I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke.

if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.
Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling
Complaining about the performance is not trolling, I agree, and I have not suggested otherwise. However, invoking my name when I have deliberately not posted IS, as you are apparently deliberately trying to provoke me (the dictionary definition of trolling).

Trolling also includes the antics of people like Ringtone who genuinely delight in any disappointing result (and this I believe was the thrust of Vegas's initial post).

PS: I AM a real fan, and I am also gutted, as I always am when we drop points. Please, PLEASE do not confuse occasional non-attendance with not being a real fan. It is very insulting.
Sorry , but some stupid comments from Vegas tonight!
Had we won we would just have needed a win friday! The whole championship seem to be helping us reach the play offs! And we are doing our best to not accept it! Saying a draw is acceptable is ridiculous
so what you are peed off about is that we didn't win, yeah I get that, but how the heck can you say that if we don't win, for what ever reason, a draw is unacceptable, I just don't get that. You can be as annoyed as you want about us not winning, it was a match that we had expected to get 3 points from, but why harp on about the negative and ignore the positive, even if the positive is not all that great.
We are still in the hunt, doesn't that matter to you or can you only find good in 3 points? Glass is always half empty with you Mark, as your stated opinion that Ocar won't last long next year, even tho you have no idea what shape our squad will take come the start of a new campaign.
Just a small point but I have to ask, why have you been the most defensive when commenting on my original comment about trolls, not even Ringtone has said as much as you and right now he is the troll leader in chief.
You never saw the performance today, so why even make a opinion? Seriously! You make the obvious sound so interesting ! A draw against forest away is a good draw, a draw against a side in turmoil when we need to win games, obviously you can only comment on the rsult because frankly you have no idea what happens at the Amex today.
Me being a troll? Season ticket holder for 15 out of last 20 odd seasons.
I plan my holidays around our season!
And there lies the truth of it doesn't it Mark, if a person doesn't attend the matches, in your world he has no voice, has no right to an opinion, in fact he/she should just visit the site to read your, and others, comments.

'You never saw the performance today, so why even make an opinion,' says it all doesn't it, even tho my comments have been restricted to the fact that we gained a point an what that point might mean. My glass is half full Mark.

Any pensioners that can't afford to go but still support the team, take note of Mark's comment. Anyone out of work and also can't afford to go, you get the same from Mark. Those of us that live way too far away, we too should just shut the duck up, but none of us need worry, Mark will tell us what to think, after all, he attends every match.
Vegas, why don't you understand?
It's not all about the points.It is about the manner of performance. Not every bad performance by any team is down to every manager but if you had to sit through the boring, predictable slow build up and pay expensively for it you would be cheesed off too. If you weren't then your taste would have to be questioned. It is so frustrating. Nearly all the pundits in the media say the same when they comment on an Albion game....no tempo, slow build up, too many passes without result, no shots on target etc. Merson, Walsh, Aspinall, Chivers and Salako have all made the same points on TV and Radio.
For about two games we changed and played with vigour and a bit more tempo but we have reverted back to the season's old ways it seems.
We all know that playing lower teams can be difficult ( I predicted draws for both this game and Huddersfield; it's that easy if you follow latest form and how a team actually plays, not league position) but why do we so often this season look lost and devoid of passion when it's most needed? Cannot always be 'nerves'.
We could do so much better, that's why O.G. is criticised. He doesn't motivate the players and T.B. knows this now. I wonder whether he will follow Man. U's example, which I believe is imminent, in sacking Moyes? Anyone could have got where we are this season with the decent squad left to us by Gus, like him or not. Many more could have done better.
What can i say a pure outstanding post from a real fan.Im sure the Argus will help Vegas and Ex-pat out yet again tomoz lol.Do we really have free speech in this country still lol haha.Only for the few in a small minded group maybe.
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll. Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.[/p][/quote]Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season[/p][/quote]Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend. I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke. if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.[/p][/quote]Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling[/p][/quote]Complaining about the performance is not trolling, I agree, and I have not suggested otherwise. However, invoking my name when I have deliberately not posted IS, as you are apparently deliberately trying to provoke me (the dictionary definition of trolling). Trolling also includes the antics of people like Ringtone who genuinely delight in any disappointing result (and this I believe was the thrust of Vegas's initial post). PS: I AM a real fan, and I am also gutted, as I always am when we drop points. Please, PLEASE do not confuse occasional non-attendance with not being a real fan. It is very insulting.[/p][/quote]Sorry , but some stupid comments from Vegas tonight! Had we won we would just have needed a win friday! The whole championship seem to be helping us reach the play offs! And we are doing our best to not accept it! Saying a draw is acceptable is ridiculous[/p][/quote]so what you are peed off about is that we didn't win, yeah I get that, but how the heck can you say that if we don't win, for what ever reason, a draw is unacceptable, I just don't get that. You can be as annoyed as you want about us not winning, it was a match that we had expected to get 3 points from, but why harp on about the negative and ignore the positive, even if the positive is not all that great. We are still in the hunt, doesn't that matter to you or can you only find good in 3 points? Glass is always half empty with you Mark, as your stated opinion that Ocar won't last long next year, even tho you have no idea what shape our squad will take come the start of a new campaign. Just a small point but I have to ask, why have you been the most defensive when commenting on my original comment about trolls, not even Ringtone has said as much as you and right now he is the troll leader in chief.[/p][/quote]You never saw the performance today, so why even make a opinion? Seriously! You make the obvious sound so interesting ! A draw against forest away is a good draw, a draw against a side in turmoil when we need to win games, obviously you can only comment on the rsult because frankly you have no idea what happens at the Amex today. Me being a troll? Season ticket holder for 15 out of last 20 odd seasons. I plan my holidays around our season![/p][/quote]And there lies the truth of it doesn't it Mark, if a person doesn't attend the matches, in your world he has no voice, has no right to an opinion, in fact he/she should just visit the site to read your, and others, comments. 'You never saw the performance today, so why even make an opinion,' says it all doesn't it, even tho my comments have been restricted to the fact that we gained a point an what that point might mean. My glass is half full Mark. Any pensioners that can't afford to go but still support the team, take note of Mark's comment. Anyone out of work and also can't afford to go, you get the same from Mark. Those of us that live way too far away, we too should just shut the duck up, but none of us need worry, Mark will tell us what to think, after all, he attends every match.[/p][/quote]Vegas, why don't you understand? It's not all about the points.It is about the manner of performance. Not every bad performance by any team is down to every manager but if you had to sit through the boring, predictable slow build up and pay expensively for it you would be cheesed off too. If you weren't then your taste would have to be questioned. It is so frustrating. Nearly all the pundits in the media say the same when they comment on an Albion game....no tempo, slow build up, too many passes without result, no shots on target etc. Merson, Walsh, Aspinall, Chivers and Salako have all made the same points on TV and Radio. For about two games we changed and played with vigour and a bit more tempo but we have reverted back to the season's old ways it seems. We all know that playing lower teams can be difficult ( I predicted draws for both this game and Huddersfield; it's that easy if you follow latest form and how a team actually plays, not league position) but why do we so often this season look lost and devoid of passion when it's most needed? Cannot always be 'nerves'. We could do so much better, that's why O.G. is criticised. He doesn't motivate the players and T.B. knows this now. I wonder whether he will follow Man. U's example, which I believe is imminent, in sacking Moyes? Anyone could have got where we are this season with the decent squad left to us by Gus, like him or not. Many more could have done better.[/p][/quote]What can i say a pure outstanding post from a real fan.Im sure the Argus will help Vegas and Ex-pat out yet again tomoz lol.Do we really have free speech in this country still lol haha.Only for the few in a small minded group maybe. Free money
  • Score: -1

1:48am Tue 22 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

Claude, did you read any of my comments on today's performance, not once did I offer an opinon as to how they played, good or bad. My only comment was, it is better to get a point that get nothing. Please check what I have just written to make sure I am not telling porkies.
Claude, did you read any of my comments on today's performance, not once did I offer an opinon as to how they played, good or bad. My only comment was, it is better to get a point that get nothing. Please check what I have just written to make sure I am not telling porkies. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -1

2:47am Tue 22 Apr 14

daughter-of-manag says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Claude, did you read any of my comments on today's performance, not once did I offer an opinon as to how they played, good or bad. My only comment was, it is better to get a point that get nothing. Please check what I have just written to make sure I am not telling porkies.
Vegas - has someone hacked into your account? I can't believe how defensive you've been throughout this thread. You previously listed a kind of troll criteria, and although I disagree with you, I accept that we differ in our views - and that's ok. If some BHA fans are not enamoured with OG as a coach, that's ok too - it doesn't make them a troll. Diversity of opinion is a good thing Vegas, and if a poster states in their opinion (say) that I'm not a real BHA fan, then good for them; if they think I'm a donkey then that's their opinion and it shouldn't bother me. I enjoy reading the diversity of opinions on this site, knowing that most of us love our team and share this commonality with each other. What does puzzle me is that "we" continue to feed the genuine trolls by reacting to and/or responding to their posts.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Claude, did you read any of my comments on today's performance, not once did I offer an opinon as to how they played, good or bad. My only comment was, it is better to get a point that get nothing. Please check what I have just written to make sure I am not telling porkies.[/p][/quote]Vegas - has someone hacked into your account? I can't believe how defensive you've been throughout this thread. You previously listed a kind of troll criteria, and although I disagree with you, I accept that we differ in our views - and that's ok. If some BHA fans are not enamoured with OG as a coach, that's ok too - it doesn't make them a troll. Diversity of opinion is a good thing Vegas, and if a poster states in their opinion (say) that I'm not a real BHA fan, then good for them; if they think I'm a donkey then that's their opinion and it shouldn't bother me. I enjoy reading the diversity of opinions on this site, knowing that most of us love our team and share this commonality with each other. What does puzzle me is that "we" continue to feed the genuine trolls by reacting to and/or responding to their posts. daughter-of-manag
  • Score: 7

7:54am Tue 22 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
saraman wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.
Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll.
Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.
Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season
Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend.

I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke.

if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.
Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling
Complaining about the performance is not trolling, I agree, and I have not suggested otherwise. However, invoking my name when I have deliberately not posted IS, as you are apparently deliberately trying to provoke me (the dictionary definition of trolling).

Trolling also includes the antics of people like Ringtone who genuinely delight in any disappointing result (and this I believe was the thrust of Vegas's initial post).

PS: I AM a real fan, and I am also gutted, as I always am when we drop points. Please, PLEASE do not confuse occasional non-attendance with not being a real fan. It is very insulting.
Sorry , but some stupid comments from Vegas tonight!
Had we won we would just have needed a win friday! The whole championship seem to be helping us reach the play offs! And we are doing our best to not accept it! Saying a draw is acceptable is ridiculous
so what you are peed off about is that we didn't win, yeah I get that, but how the heck can you say that if we don't win, for what ever reason, a draw is unacceptable, I just don't get that. You can be as annoyed as you want about us not winning, it was a match that we had expected to get 3 points from, but why harp on about the negative and ignore the positive, even if the positive is not all that great.
We are still in the hunt, doesn't that matter to you or can you only find good in 3 points? Glass is always half empty with you Mark, as your stated opinion that Ocar won't last long next year, even tho you have no idea what shape our squad will take come the start of a new campaign.
Just a small point but I have to ask, why have you been the most defensive when commenting on my original comment about trolls, not even Ringtone has said as much as you and right now he is the troll leader in chief.
You never saw the performance today, so why even make a opinion? Seriously! You make the obvious sound so interesting ! A draw against forest away is a good draw, a draw against a side in turmoil when we need to win games, obviously you can only comment on the rsult because frankly you have no idea what happens at the Amex today.
Me being a troll? Season ticket holder for 15 out of last 20 odd seasons.
I plan my holidays around our season!
And there lies the truth of it doesn't it Mark, if a person doesn't attend the matches, in your world he has no voice, has no right to an opinion, in fact he/she should just visit the site to read your, and others, comments.

'You never saw the performance today, so why even make an opinion,' says it all doesn't it, even tho my comments have been restricted to the fact that we gained a point an what that point might mean. My glass is half full Mark.

Any pensioners that can't afford to go but still support the team, take note of Mark's comment. Anyone out of work and also can't afford to go, you get the same from Mark. Those of us that live way too far away, we too should just shut the duck up, but none of us need worry, Mark will tell us what to think, after all, he attends every match.
That's right Vegas your Robin Hood to the unemployed and the pensioners!
Why do they need your opinion ? Can't they form one like you? Or is it the fact your opinion is so thoughtful ?
Perhaps you would comment on the fact we need to win 2 now to gain a play off spot?
Yesterday's performance was appalling .. No backbone , no style, and let's forget the barca connection, football played was slow uninspired and rubbish, that's the opinion of the vast majority of those that were there.
TB has work to do with the set up at the club, something is not right.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: I don't think you have to be classed a "troll", Vegas, for expressing disappointment at an extremely disappointing result. There have been too many let-downs at home this season.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Bruce. I am totally gutted, but that does not make me a troll. Just a deeply upset loyal Albion fan.[/p][/quote]Seems your a troll if you actually go to the matches, Vegas and Arnie know so much more than us mortals who pay out thousands each season[/p][/quote]Blimey, that started quickly! I hadn't even commented on here and already you're having a go at me. THAT is trolling, my friend. I assume (and he will correct me if I'm wrong) that Vegas uses the word 'troll' to describe Freeloaders, Ringtone and Norfolk (plus one or two other obvious non-fans). Those who were there and are unhappy (despite our lofty position) have every right to voice their opinion even if others disagree with it, but the genuine trolls do not - they do not love the club and seek only to provoke. if you are not a troll then don't feel indignation as you were not included.[/p][/quote]Point is this, the real fans are gutted ! Had we beaten a team in disarray we would now be in the play offs subject to beating the bottom side friday ! That's not trolling[/p][/quote]Complaining about the performance is not trolling, I agree, and I have not suggested otherwise. However, invoking my name when I have deliberately not posted IS, as you are apparently deliberately trying to provoke me (the dictionary definition of trolling). Trolling also includes the antics of people like Ringtone who genuinely delight in any disappointing result (and this I believe was the thrust of Vegas's initial post). PS: I AM a real fan, and I am also gutted, as I always am when we drop points. Please, PLEASE do not confuse occasional non-attendance with not being a real fan. It is very insulting.[/p][/quote]Sorry , but some stupid comments from Vegas tonight! Had we won we would just have needed a win friday! The whole championship seem to be helping us reach the play offs! And we are doing our best to not accept it! Saying a draw is acceptable is ridiculous[/p][/quote]so what you are peed off about is that we didn't win, yeah I get that, but how the heck can you say that if we don't win, for what ever reason, a draw is unacceptable, I just don't get that. You can be as annoyed as you want about us not winning, it was a match that we had expected to get 3 points from, but why harp on about the negative and ignore the positive, even if the positive is not all that great. We are still in the hunt, doesn't that matter to you or can you only find good in 3 points? Glass is always half empty with you Mark, as your stated opinion that Ocar won't last long next year, even tho you have no idea what shape our squad will take come the start of a new campaign. Just a small point but I have to ask, why have you been the most defensive when commenting on my original comment about trolls, not even Ringtone has said as much as you and right now he is the troll leader in chief.[/p][/quote]You never saw the performance today, so why even make a opinion? Seriously! You make the obvious sound so interesting ! A draw against forest away is a good draw, a draw against a side in turmoil when we need to win games, obviously you can only comment on the rsult because frankly you have no idea what happens at the Amex today. Me being a troll? Season ticket holder for 15 out of last 20 odd seasons. I plan my holidays around our season![/p][/quote]And there lies the truth of it doesn't it Mark, if a person doesn't attend the matches, in your world he has no voice, has no right to an opinion, in fact he/she should just visit the site to read your, and others, comments. 'You never saw the performance today, so why even make an opinion,' says it all doesn't it, even tho my comments have been restricted to the fact that we gained a point an what that point might mean. My glass is half full Mark. Any pensioners that can't afford to go but still support the team, take note of Mark's comment. Anyone out of work and also can't afford to go, you get the same from Mark. Those of us that live way too far away, we too should just shut the duck up, but none of us need worry, Mark will tell us what to think, after all, he attends every match.[/p][/quote]That's right Vegas your Robin Hood to the unemployed and the pensioners! Why do they need your opinion ? Can't they form one like you? Or is it the fact your opinion is so thoughtful ? Perhaps you would comment on the fact we need to win 2 now to gain a play off spot? Yesterday's performance was appalling .. No backbone , no style, and let's forget the barca connection, football played was slow uninspired and rubbish, that's the opinion of the vast majority of those that were there. TB has work to do with the set up at the club, something is not right. mark by the sea
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10:10am Tue 22 Apr 14

lenward says...

I go back to 1963 watching the albion, and we have always struggled against
lower placed clubs, and today was no different. The crossing was trouble, and Brono can not cross to save his life, but when a decent cross did go in no one would take a chance and attack the ball, they are all so worried they will get hurt. I just hope we don't go into the Forest game needing a point and they need three, or whose we needing three points. Do I dare say three points on friday. Never boring watching the Albion.
I go back to 1963 watching the albion, and we have always struggled against lower placed clubs, and today was no different. The crossing was trouble, and Brono can not cross to save his life, but when a decent cross did go in no one would take a chance and attack the ball, they are all so worried they will get hurt. I just hope we don't go into the Forest game needing a point and they need three, or whose we needing three points. Do I dare say three points on friday. Never boring watching the Albion. lenward
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10:56am Tue 22 Apr 14

Athena says...

What was missing? Very simple. Goals.
What was missing? Very simple. Goals. Athena
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3:29pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Gosh! I'm exhausted reading all these posts. It's hard to believe most of us support the same team. What was missing? A couple of goals in the first 20 minutes from us. And why didn't we get them? Blackpool fought for their lives and didn't let us play our passing game. I said there are no easy games at this time of the season and so it's proving. On to the next one then. UTA
Gosh! I'm exhausted reading all these posts. It's hard to believe most of us support the same team. What was missing? A couple of goals in the first 20 minutes from us. And why didn't we get them? Blackpool fought for their lives and didn't let us play our passing game. I said there are no easy games at this time of the season and so it's proving. On to the next one then. UTA Joel'sGrandad
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