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Boro no Friend to Albion

The Argus: George Friend put through his own net as Reading climbed above Albion George Friend put through his own net as Reading climbed above Albion

Albion's destiny in the play-off race is back out of their hands after a 2-0 win for Reading at home to mid-table Middlesbrough.

Adam Le Fondre and an own goal by George Friend in the opening 14 minutes put the Royals in charge at the Madejski Stadium.

Reading are now a point and a place above Albion in sixth, with an identical plus 12 goal difference.

The Seagulls have the chance to move back above them by beating doomed Yeovil at the Amex on Friday evening.

The rest of the contenders are in action on Saturday, including Reading at relegation-threatened Doncaster Rovers.

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10:12pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Looks like Reading got the 2 quick goals we needed yesterday. We need 2 wins now and it's still out of our hands. Realism is fast overtaking optimism but we carry on regardless. UTA
Looks like Reading got the 2 quick goals we needed yesterday. We need 2 wins now and it's still out of our hands. Realism is fast overtaking optimism but we carry on regardless. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 1

10:14pm Tue 22 Apr 14

SMF20 says...

A shame Middlesbrough couldn't do us a favour tonight but we can't keep relying on others helping us out.
Makes it an absolute must win on Friday now or it could be all over by Saturday tea time.
Just for fun I was thinking about what team we could have had on the pitch on Monday should we not have sold players, let players leave on a free and kept some loan players after their loan finished. No current players allowed... Only from the last 4 seasons.

Harper
Can't think of a right back
El abd
Cook
Bridge
Dobbie
Bridcutt
Vicente
Conway
Barnes
Murray

I wonder how this lot might have got on this season. God I lead a boring life :)

Uta
A shame Middlesbrough couldn't do us a favour tonight but we can't keep relying on others helping us out. Makes it an absolute must win on Friday now or it could be all over by Saturday tea time. Just for fun I was thinking about what team we could have had on the pitch on Monday should we not have sold players, let players leave on a free and kept some loan players after their loan finished. No current players allowed... Only from the last 4 seasons. Harper Can't think of a right back El abd Cook Bridge Dobbie Bridcutt Vicente Conway Barnes Murray I wonder how this lot might have got on this season. God I lead a boring life :) Uta SMF20
  • Score: -2

10:17pm Tue 22 Apr 14

kevbha says...

be all down to the last day now and ash will help us out with his first hattrick for burnley
be all down to the last day now and ash will help us out with his first hattrick for burnley kevbha
  • Score: 1

10:19pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Ken in Spain says...

Readings last 2 games are Doncaster and Burnley. It's theirs to lose. Looking forward to next season personally. I quite like the Championship anyway!
Readings last 2 games are Doncaster and Burnley. It's theirs to lose. Looking forward to next season personally. I quite like the Championship anyway! Ken in Spain
  • Score: 8

10:19pm Tue 22 Apr 14

ringtone says...

SMF20 wrote:
A shame Middlesbrough couldn't do us a favour tonight but we can't keep relying on others helping us out.
Makes it an absolute must win on Friday now or it could be all over by Saturday tea time.
Just for fun I was thinking about what team we could have had on the pitch on Monday should we not have sold players, let players leave on a free and kept some loan players after their loan finished. No current players allowed... Only from the last 4 seasons.

Harper
Can't think of a right back
El abd
Cook
Bridge
Dobbie
Bridcutt
Vicente
Conway
Barnes
Murray

I wonder how this lot might have got on this season. God I lead a boring life :)

Uta
Brillant side, would probably gone on to win the premiership the following year,
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: A shame Middlesbrough couldn't do us a favour tonight but we can't keep relying on others helping us out. Makes it an absolute must win on Friday now or it could be all over by Saturday tea time. Just for fun I was thinking about what team we could have had on the pitch on Monday should we not have sold players, let players leave on a free and kept some loan players after their loan finished. No current players allowed... Only from the last 4 seasons. Harper Can't think of a right back El abd Cook Bridge Dobbie Bridcutt Vicente Conway Barnes Murray I wonder how this lot might have got on this season. God I lead a boring life :) Uta[/p][/quote]Brillant side, would probably gone on to win the premiership the following year, ringtone
  • Score: -1

10:24pm Tue 22 Apr 14

graham w says...

Ash could do us a favour so could tommy and cooki.... but we will still need to win both games...an interesting next 11 days...
Ash could do us a favour so could tommy and cooki.... but we will still need to win both games...an interesting next 11 days... graham w
  • Score: 5

10:29pm Tue 22 Apr 14

namgo49 says...

I think the thing is the manner of our failure. Recent performances against Blackpool, Ipswich and Middlesbrough were awful and inexcusable and to think that cheating bunch up at Reading have done us really sticks in the throat.
I think the thing is the manner of our failure. Recent performances against Blackpool, Ipswich and Middlesbrough were awful and inexcusable and to think that cheating bunch up at Reading have done us really sticks in the throat. namgo49
  • Score: 16

10:35pm Tue 22 Apr 14

gordongull says...

One play-off place and seven teams doing everything in their power to avoid it. Some of the rivals occasionally stumble into three points like Reading this evening, relying on an own goal to open the scoring.
It is the inability of these opposing teams to mount a serious challenge which maintains our unlikely status as contenders after just two wins in the last nine games.
The prize of sixth place is going to go to the side which manages to be least inept, and incredibly, it could still be Brighton and Hove Albion.
One play-off place and seven teams doing everything in their power to avoid it. Some of the rivals occasionally stumble into three points like Reading this evening, relying on an own goal to open the scoring. It is the inability of these opposing teams to mount a serious challenge which maintains our unlikely status as contenders after just two wins in the last nine games. The prize of sixth place is going to go to the side which manages to be least inept, and incredibly, it could still be Brighton and Hove Albion. gordongull
  • Score: 9

10:37pm Tue 22 Apr 14

pte says...

We just have to wait to see what happens in the next match if Reading slip up. If Forest slip up they will have nothing to play for in the last match. Anything can happen

So if we beat Yeovil we still have a chance
We just have to wait to see what happens in the next match if Reading slip up. If Forest slip up they will have nothing to play for in the last match. Anything can happen So if we beat Yeovil we still have a chance pte
  • Score: 4

10:39pm Tue 22 Apr 14

oksouthstander says...

Unimpressed with Reading 2 sloppy goals given away by Mid-table Middlesbrough and a Danny Graham miss 2 mins before Reading scored their 2nd goal...Will find a tougher game away at Doncaster struggling for survival.Our form is far better and 2 wins will see us to the play-offs KEEP THE FAITH....
Unimpressed with Reading 2 sloppy goals given away by Mid-table Middlesbrough and a Danny Graham miss 2 mins before Reading scored their 2nd goal...Will find a tougher game away at Doncaster struggling for survival.Our form is far better and 2 wins will see us to the play-offs KEEP THE FAITH.... oksouthstander
  • Score: 2

10:39pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Norfolk and way says...

It's frankly shambolic and embaressing that we're even having to hope for other teams to help us, if we were professional we'd have made sure we did the job ourselves. You wouldn't find this sort of nonsense going on at palace. Jeez.
It's frankly shambolic and embaressing that we're even having to hope for other teams to help us, if we were professional we'd have made sure we did the job ourselves. You wouldn't find this sort of nonsense going on at palace. Jeez. Norfolk and way
  • Score: -5

10:49pm Tue 22 Apr 14

ringtone says...

oksouthstander wrote:
Unimpressed with Reading 2 sloppy goals given away by Mid-table Middlesbrough and a Danny Graham miss 2 mins before Reading scored their 2nd goal...Will find a tougher game away at Doncaster struggling for survival.Our form is far better and 2 wins will see us to the play-offs KEEP THE FAITH....
Tony got it right

Build it and they will come, Amex aka field of dreams, one born every minute.
[quote][p][bold]oksouthstander[/bold] wrote: Unimpressed with Reading 2 sloppy goals given away by Mid-table Middlesbrough and a Danny Graham miss 2 mins before Reading scored their 2nd goal...Will find a tougher game away at Doncaster struggling for survival.Our form is far better and 2 wins will see us to the play-offs KEEP THE FAITH....[/p][/quote]Tony got it right Build it and they will come, Amex aka field of dreams, one born every minute. ringtone
  • Score: -6

10:56pm Tue 22 Apr 14

ringtone says...

namgo49 wrote:
I think the thing is the manner of our failure. Recent performances against Blackpool, Ipswich and Middlesbrough were awful and inexcusable and to think that cheating bunch up at Reading have done us really sticks in the throat.
Your having a laugh, Greer should have had a straight red for his first offence, denial of a goal scoring opp.

Ref bottled it, so we get a lucky point.
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: I think the thing is the manner of our failure. Recent performances against Blackpool, Ipswich and Middlesbrough were awful and inexcusable and to think that cheating bunch up at Reading have done us really sticks in the throat.[/p][/quote]Your having a laugh, Greer should have had a straight red for his first offence, denial of a goal scoring opp. Ref bottled it, so we get a lucky point. ringtone
  • Score: -8

11:02pm Tue 22 Apr 14

gordongull says...

No Trolls on here this evening.
Nice isn't it? :)
No Trolls on here this evening. Nice isn't it? :) gordongull
  • Score: -5

11:27pm Tue 22 Apr 14

SiWilki says...

When you look at all the games Brighton should have won but haven't, really have to be honest and Sat they will be lucky to be in playoffs and undeserved compared to other teams.
When you look at all the games Brighton should have won but haven't, really have to be honest and Sat they will be lucky to be in playoffs and undeserved compared to other teams. SiWilki
  • Score: 2

11:32pm Tue 22 Apr 14

gordongull says...

gordongull wrote:
No Trolls on here this evening.
Nice isn't it? :)
Why all the thumbs down?
Do you prefer scrolling past metres of dialogue boxes like when Ex-pat Arnie, The Bosch, Vegas Seagull, and one or two others get going?
That is the point I am trying to make.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: No Trolls on here this evening. Nice isn't it? :)[/p][/quote]Why all the thumbs down? Do you prefer scrolling past metres of dialogue boxes like when Ex-pat Arnie, The Bosch, Vegas Seagull, and one or two others get going? That is the point I am trying to make. gordongull
  • Score: 5

11:36pm Tue 22 Apr 14

pablobrowno says...

Tarricco at right back?!! Or has he been sent off?!!
Tarricco at right back?!! Or has he been sent off?!! pablobrowno
  • Score: 4

11:36pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

gordongull wrote:
gordongull wrote:
No Trolls on here this evening.
Nice isn't it? :)
Why all the thumbs down?
Do you prefer scrolling past metres of dialogue boxes like when Ex-pat Arnie, The Bosch, Vegas Seagull, and one or two others get going?
That is the point I am trying to make.
I think you need a reminder of what internet trolling genuinely is. You may not like what Vegas or I post but we are not trolls. Amusingly, your deliberately provocative comment is, technically, trolling. Ironic, huh?

Now, back to the subject... it's a shame Boro couldn't do us a favour, but that's not why they are playing. I think if we win our two remaining games we will finish above Reading and secure the final play-off berth. Even failing that, I think finishing in what is likely to be something like the tenth best place in our history is something to be praised, even if there have been a few disappointing moments along the way.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: No Trolls on here this evening. Nice isn't it? :)[/p][/quote]Why all the thumbs down? Do you prefer scrolling past metres of dialogue boxes like when Ex-pat Arnie, The Bosch, Vegas Seagull, and one or two others get going? That is the point I am trying to make.[/p][/quote]I think you need a reminder of what internet trolling genuinely is. You may not like what Vegas or I post but we are not trolls. Amusingly, your deliberately provocative comment is, technically, trolling. Ironic, huh? Now, back to the subject... it's a shame Boro couldn't do us a favour, but that's not why they are playing. I think if we win our two remaining games we will finish above Reading and secure the final play-off berth. Even failing that, I think finishing in what is likely to be something like the tenth best place in our history is something to be praised, even if there have been a few disappointing moments along the way. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: -1

11:37pm Tue 22 Apr 14

pablobrowno says...

pablobrowno wrote:
Tarricco at right back?!! Or has he been sent off?!!
That post was supposed to have quoted SMF20s imaginary team......
[quote][p][bold]pablobrowno[/bold] wrote: Tarricco at right back?!! Or has he been sent off?!![/p][/quote]That post was supposed to have quoted SMF20s imaginary team...... pablobrowno
  • Score: 1

11:40pm Tue 22 Apr 14

gordongull says...

SiWilki wrote:
When you look at all the games Brighton should have won but haven't, really have to be honest and Sat they will be lucky to be in playoffs and undeserved compared to other teams.
The teams vying, (if that is the right word to describe it) for sixth place are all so poor that I think if we scrape through, we deserve it more than them.
[quote][p][bold]SiWilki[/bold] wrote: When you look at all the games Brighton should have won but haven't, really have to be honest and Sat they will be lucky to be in playoffs and undeserved compared to other teams.[/p][/quote]The teams vying, (if that is the right word to describe it) for sixth place are all so poor that I think if we scrape through, we deserve it more than them. gordongull
  • Score: 1

11:55pm Tue 22 Apr 14

SiWilki says...

gordongull wrote:
SiWilki wrote:
When you look at all the games Brighton should have won but haven't, really have to be honest and Sat they will be lucky to be in playoffs and undeserved compared to other teams.
The teams vying, (if that is the right word to describe it) for sixth place are all so poor that I think if we scrape through, we deserve it more than them.
Fair point, on article title should really be Brighton are no friend to themselves really, could be so much better
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SiWilki[/bold] wrote: When you look at all the games Brighton should have won but haven't, really have to be honest and Sat they will be lucky to be in playoffs and undeserved compared to other teams.[/p][/quote]The teams vying, (if that is the right word to describe it) for sixth place are all so poor that I think if we scrape through, we deserve it more than them.[/p][/quote]Fair point, on article title should really be Brighton are no friend to themselves really, could be so much better SiWilki
  • Score: 0

12:05am Wed 23 Apr 14

gordongull says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
gordongull wrote:
gordongull wrote:
No Trolls on here this evening.
Nice isn't it? :)
Why all the thumbs down?
Do you prefer scrolling past metres of dialogue boxes like when Ex-pat Arnie, The Bosch, Vegas Seagull, and one or two others get going?
That is the point I am trying to make.
I think you need a reminder of what internet trolling genuinely is. You may not like what Vegas or I post but we are not trolls. Amusingly, your deliberately provocative comment is, technically, trolling. Ironic, huh?

Now, back to the subject... it's a shame Boro couldn't do us a favour, but that's not why they are playing. I think if we win our two remaining games we will finish above Reading and secure the final play-off berth. Even failing that, I think finishing in what is likely to be something like the tenth best place in our history is something to be praised, even if there have been a few disappointing moments along the way.
You don't get it Ex-pat Arnie.
The threads only descend into chaos when yourself and one or two others insist on trying to rationalize the comments of other posters. Apart from that, I have never suggested that I don't like what you or Vegas are saying. In fact I welcome your opinions, although they don't always reflect my own. I agree with a lot of what Vegas says, and his good posts usually make the clunkers worth the effort.
You call my post deliberately provocative because you are incapable of accepting that it might be you that is in the wrong. I realised that over the 'Barn Door Billy' incident. Even though you researched his nickname, and found it had been in use at Leeds, you still tried to prove me wrong.
I suggest you consider whether your activity on this site is less disruptive than a few comments you don't like from people of dubious allegiance.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: No Trolls on here this evening. Nice isn't it? :)[/p][/quote]Why all the thumbs down? Do you prefer scrolling past metres of dialogue boxes like when Ex-pat Arnie, The Bosch, Vegas Seagull, and one or two others get going? That is the point I am trying to make.[/p][/quote]I think you need a reminder of what internet trolling genuinely is. You may not like what Vegas or I post but we are not trolls. Amusingly, your deliberately provocative comment is, technically, trolling. Ironic, huh? Now, back to the subject... it's a shame Boro couldn't do us a favour, but that's not why they are playing. I think if we win our two remaining games we will finish above Reading and secure the final play-off berth. Even failing that, I think finishing in what is likely to be something like the tenth best place in our history is something to be praised, even if there have been a few disappointing moments along the way.[/p][/quote]You don't get it Ex-pat Arnie. The threads only descend into chaos when yourself and one or two others insist on trying to rationalize the comments of other posters. Apart from that, I have never suggested that I don't like what you or Vegas are saying. In fact I welcome your opinions, although they don't always reflect my own. I agree with a lot of what Vegas says, and his good posts usually make the clunkers worth the effort. You call my post deliberately provocative because you are incapable of accepting that it might be you that is in the wrong. I realised that over the 'Barn Door Billy' incident. Even though you researched his nickname, and found it had been in use at Leeds, you still tried to prove me wrong. I suggest you consider whether your activity on this site is less disruptive than a few comments you don't like from people of dubious allegiance. gordongull
  • Score: 2

12:25am Wed 23 Apr 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

gordongull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
gordongull wrote:
gordongull wrote:
No Trolls on here this evening.
Nice isn't it? :)
Why all the thumbs down?
Do you prefer scrolling past metres of dialogue boxes like when Ex-pat Arnie, The Bosch, Vegas Seagull, and one or two others get going?
That is the point I am trying to make.
I think you need a reminder of what internet trolling genuinely is. You may not like what Vegas or I post but we are not trolls. Amusingly, your deliberately provocative comment is, technically, trolling. Ironic, huh?

Now, back to the subject... it's a shame Boro couldn't do us a favour, but that's not why they are playing. I think if we win our two remaining games we will finish above Reading and secure the final play-off berth. Even failing that, I think finishing in what is likely to be something like the tenth best place in our history is something to be praised, even if there have been a few disappointing moments along the way.
You don't get it Ex-pat Arnie.
The threads only descend into chaos when yourself and one or two others insist on trying to rationalize the comments of other posters. Apart from that, I have never suggested that I don't like what you or Vegas are saying. In fact I welcome your opinions, although they don't always reflect my own. I agree with a lot of what Vegas says, and his good posts usually make the clunkers worth the effort.
You call my post deliberately provocative because you are incapable of accepting that it might be you that is in the wrong. I realised that over the 'Barn Door Billy' incident. Even though you researched his nickname, and found it had been in use at Leeds, you still tried to prove me wrong.
I suggest you consider whether your activity on this site is less disruptive than a few comments you don't like from people of dubious allegiance.
Well, whatever you say about my tactic against Freeloaders, it worked this evening.

I called your post provocative for the simple reason that it mentions people by name who were otherwise not involved. You had already made your 'point' about trolls, and when it didn't get the reception you felt it deserved you mentioned me and others by name. That was uncalled for. It seemed to be designed to rile those named - although I accept this may not have been the actual intention.

I have never trolled, although I do often disagree strongly with those I believe to be deliberately mischievous (there are actually only about two regulars with whom I semi-regularly do this). I tend to argue only when I believe the correspondent is provably incorrect and will generally steer clear of 'opinion' arguments, as they are insoluble. I apologise sincerely if you find that objectionable and, despite my disappointment at being mislabelled a troll, I will try to perhaps moderate my behaviour in future.

PS: Re BDB, I don't recall finding any evidence for its being used by Leeds fans, but that is an old and forgotten disagreement for another day.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: No Trolls on here this evening. Nice isn't it? :)[/p][/quote]Why all the thumbs down? Do you prefer scrolling past metres of dialogue boxes like when Ex-pat Arnie, The Bosch, Vegas Seagull, and one or two others get going? That is the point I am trying to make.[/p][/quote]I think you need a reminder of what internet trolling genuinely is. You may not like what Vegas or I post but we are not trolls. Amusingly, your deliberately provocative comment is, technically, trolling. Ironic, huh? Now, back to the subject... it's a shame Boro couldn't do us a favour, but that's not why they are playing. I think if we win our two remaining games we will finish above Reading and secure the final play-off berth. Even failing that, I think finishing in what is likely to be something like the tenth best place in our history is something to be praised, even if there have been a few disappointing moments along the way.[/p][/quote]You don't get it Ex-pat Arnie. The threads only descend into chaos when yourself and one or two others insist on trying to rationalize the comments of other posters. Apart from that, I have never suggested that I don't like what you or Vegas are saying. In fact I welcome your opinions, although they don't always reflect my own. I agree with a lot of what Vegas says, and his good posts usually make the clunkers worth the effort. You call my post deliberately provocative because you are incapable of accepting that it might be you that is in the wrong. I realised that over the 'Barn Door Billy' incident. Even though you researched his nickname, and found it had been in use at Leeds, you still tried to prove me wrong. I suggest you consider whether your activity on this site is less disruptive than a few comments you don't like from people of dubious allegiance.[/p][/quote]Well, whatever you say about my tactic against Freeloaders, it worked this evening. I called your post provocative for the simple reason that it mentions people by name who were otherwise not involved. You had already made your 'point' about trolls, and when it didn't get the reception you felt it deserved you mentioned me and others by name. That was uncalled for. It seemed to be designed to rile those named - although I accept this may not have been the actual intention. I have never trolled, although I do often disagree strongly with those I believe to be deliberately mischievous (there are actually only about two regulars with whom I semi-regularly do this). I tend to argue only when I believe the correspondent is provably incorrect and will generally steer clear of 'opinion' arguments, as they are insoluble. I apologise sincerely if you find that objectionable and, despite my disappointment at being mislabelled a troll, I will try to perhaps moderate my behaviour in future. PS: Re BDB, I don't recall finding any evidence for its being used by Leeds fans, but that is an old and forgotten disagreement for another day. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: -1

12:29am Wed 23 Apr 14

c.s.holmes says...

If Brighton manage to get threw to the play-offs I hope they play better than last season's home leg play-off to palarse. They never looked like they wanted to win. I think it will be Derby County's turn this year and fully deserved.
If Brighton manage to get threw to the play-offs I hope they play better than last season's home leg play-off to palarse. They never looked like they wanted to win. I think it will be Derby County's turn this year and fully deserved. c.s.holmes
  • Score: 4

12:30am Wed 23 Apr 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

c.s.holmes wrote:
If Brighton manage to get threw to the play-offs I hope they play better than last season's home leg play-off to palarse. They never looked like they wanted to win. I think it will be Derby County's turn this year and fully deserved.
The play-offs are a lottery. You might as well roll some dice as try to work it out on form alone.
[quote][p][bold]c.s.holmes[/bold] wrote: If Brighton manage to get threw to the play-offs I hope they play better than last season's home leg play-off to palarse. They never looked like they wanted to win. I think it will be Derby County's turn this year and fully deserved.[/p][/quote]The play-offs are a lottery. You might as well roll some dice as try to work it out on form alone. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 0

12:39am Wed 23 Apr 14

gordongull says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
gordongull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
gordongull wrote:
gordongull wrote:
No Trolls on here this evening.
Nice isn't it? :)
Why all the thumbs down?
Do you prefer scrolling past metres of dialogue boxes like when Ex-pat Arnie, The Bosch, Vegas Seagull, and one or two others get going?
That is the point I am trying to make.
I think you need a reminder of what internet trolling genuinely is. You may not like what Vegas or I post but we are not trolls. Amusingly, your deliberately provocative comment is, technically, trolling. Ironic, huh?

Now, back to the subject... it's a shame Boro couldn't do us a favour, but that's not why they are playing. I think if we win our two remaining games we will finish above Reading and secure the final play-off berth. Even failing that, I think finishing in what is likely to be something like the tenth best place in our history is something to be praised, even if there have been a few disappointing moments along the way.
You don't get it Ex-pat Arnie.
The threads only descend into chaos when yourself and one or two others insist on trying to rationalize the comments of other posters. Apart from that, I have never suggested that I don't like what you or Vegas are saying. In fact I welcome your opinions, although they don't always reflect my own. I agree with a lot of what Vegas says, and his good posts usually make the clunkers worth the effort.
You call my post deliberately provocative because you are incapable of accepting that it might be you that is in the wrong. I realised that over the 'Barn Door Billy' incident. Even though you researched his nickname, and found it had been in use at Leeds, you still tried to prove me wrong.
I suggest you consider whether your activity on this site is less disruptive than a few comments you don't like from people of dubious allegiance.
Well, whatever you say about my tactic against Freeloaders, it worked this evening.

I called your post provocative for the simple reason that it mentions people by name who were otherwise not involved. You had already made your 'point' about trolls, and when it didn't get the reception you felt it deserved you mentioned me and others by name. That was uncalled for. It seemed to be designed to rile those named - although I accept this may not have been the actual intention.

I have never trolled, although I do often disagree strongly with those I believe to be deliberately mischievous (there are actually only about two regulars with whom I semi-regularly do this). I tend to argue only when I believe the correspondent is provably incorrect and will generally steer clear of 'opinion' arguments, as they are insoluble. I apologise sincerely if you find that objectionable and, despite my disappointment at being mislabelled a troll, I will try to perhaps moderate my behaviour in future.

PS: Re BDB, I don't recall finding any evidence for its being used by Leeds fans, but that is an old and forgotten disagreement for another day.
Ex-pat Arnie
You said you Googled it.
This is second on the list.

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[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: No Trolls on here this evening. Nice isn't it? :)[/p][/quote]Why all the thumbs down? Do you prefer scrolling past metres of dialogue boxes like when Ex-pat Arnie, The Bosch, Vegas Seagull, and one or two others get going? That is the point I am trying to make.[/p][/quote]I think you need a reminder of what internet trolling genuinely is. You may not like what Vegas or I post but we are not trolls. Amusingly, your deliberately provocative comment is, technically, trolling. Ironic, huh? Now, back to the subject... it's a shame Boro couldn't do us a favour, but that's not why they are playing. I think if we win our two remaining games we will finish above Reading and secure the final play-off berth. Even failing that, I think finishing in what is likely to be something like the tenth best place in our history is something to be praised, even if there have been a few disappointing moments along the way.[/p][/quote]You don't get it Ex-pat Arnie. The threads only descend into chaos when yourself and one or two others insist on trying to rationalize the comments of other posters. Apart from that, I have never suggested that I don't like what you or Vegas are saying. In fact I welcome your opinions, although they don't always reflect my own. I agree with a lot of what Vegas says, and his good posts usually make the clunkers worth the effort. You call my post deliberately provocative because you are incapable of accepting that it might be you that is in the wrong. I realised that over the 'Barn Door Billy' incident. Even though you researched his nickname, and found it had been in use at Leeds, you still tried to prove me wrong. I suggest you consider whether your activity on this site is less disruptive than a few comments you don't like from people of dubious allegiance.[/p][/quote]Well, whatever you say about my tactic against Freeloaders, it worked this evening. I called your post provocative for the simple reason that it mentions people by name who were otherwise not involved. You had already made your 'point' about trolls, and when it didn't get the reception you felt it deserved you mentioned me and others by name. That was uncalled for. It seemed to be designed to rile those named - although I accept this may not have been the actual intention. I have never trolled, although I do often disagree strongly with those I believe to be deliberately mischievous (there are actually only about two regulars with whom I semi-regularly do this). I tend to argue only when I believe the correspondent is provably incorrect and will generally steer clear of 'opinion' arguments, as they are insoluble. I apologise sincerely if you find that objectionable and, despite my disappointment at being mislabelled a troll, I will try to perhaps moderate my behaviour in future. PS: Re BDB, I don't recall finding any evidence for its being used by Leeds fans, but that is an old and forgotten disagreement for another day.[/p][/quote]Ex-pat Arnie You said you Googled it. This is second on the list. http://www.thescratc hingshed.com/2011/10 /paynter-in-search-o f-a-league-one-barn- door/ gordongull
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12:50am Wed 23 Apr 14

gordongull says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
c.s.holmes wrote:
If Brighton manage to get threw to the play-offs I hope they play better than last season's home leg play-off to palarse. They never looked like they wanted to win. I think it will be Derby County's turn this year and fully deserved.
The play-offs are a lottery. You might as well roll some dice as try to work it out on form alone.
Exactly.
The system is two automatic promotion places and four play-off places. Derby would only deserve it if it was three automatic. I would fancy our chances against anyone in the play-offs.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]c.s.holmes[/bold] wrote: If Brighton manage to get threw to the play-offs I hope they play better than last season's home leg play-off to palarse. They never looked like they wanted to win. I think it will be Derby County's turn this year and fully deserved.[/p][/quote]The play-offs are a lottery. You might as well roll some dice as try to work it out on form alone.[/p][/quote]Exactly. The system is two automatic promotion places and four play-off places. Derby would only deserve it if it was three automatic. I would fancy our chances against anyone in the play-offs. gordongull
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1:24am Wed 23 Apr 14

Vince says...

It's our home form that has let us down this season - and some poor decision-making by Oscar. Far too many negative starting lin-ups: Only having one out-and-out striker at home against teams like Barnsley was appalling. When we lost 2-1 to them - I could see it coming from the start. We were so negative it was untrue. Barnsley started to push higher and higher up the pitch and I said to my brother after 30 minutes that unless Oscar made a couple of substitutions quickly we would go behind. 5 minutes later we were 1-0 down. Not long after we were 2-0 down to a team who had the worst away record in the division. Too late Oscar brought the attackers on - we scored one should have had more, but Barnsley fought like tigers to hold onto 2-1.

That match summed up all the bad points about our home matches this season.

Yet, unbelievably we deservedly beat Leicester 3-1, Burnley 2-0, Q.P.R 2-0 and were desperately unlucky not to convincingly beat Wigan. Reading cheated us down to 10 men - with Le Fondre walking into Greer and then going down like he'd been pole-axed to get him sent off. We were well on course for te 3 points up to that point. We are a far better team than Reading - outplayed them home and away - so it will be a travesty if they get into the play-offs ahead of us.

One afterthought - Last season Dobbie helped Palace get into the play-offs. This year he deprives us of 2 points against Blackpool which could deprive us of 6th place. If we had held onto him - dare I say that we would have been in the Premiership this season and not Palace if we had kept him on our books. That's the case even without mentioning a certain Glenn Murray!
It's our home form that has let us down this season - and some poor decision-making by Oscar. Far too many negative starting lin-ups: Only having one out-and-out striker at home against teams like Barnsley was appalling. When we lost 2-1 to them - I could see it coming from the start. We were so negative it was untrue. Barnsley started to push higher and higher up the pitch and I said to my brother after 30 minutes that unless Oscar made a couple of substitutions quickly we would go behind. 5 minutes later we were 1-0 down. Not long after we were 2-0 down to a team who had the worst away record in the division. Too late Oscar brought the attackers on - we scored one should have had more, but Barnsley fought like tigers to hold onto 2-1. That match summed up all the bad points about our home matches this season. Yet, unbelievably we deservedly beat Leicester 3-1, Burnley 2-0, Q.P.R 2-0 and were desperately unlucky not to convincingly beat Wigan. Reading cheated us down to 10 men - with Le Fondre walking into Greer and then going down like he'd been pole-axed to get him sent off. We were well on course for te 3 points up to that point. We are a far better team than Reading - outplayed them home and away - so it will be a travesty if they get into the play-offs ahead of us. One afterthought - Last season Dobbie helped Palace get into the play-offs. This year he deprives us of 2 points against Blackpool which could deprive us of 6th place. If we had held onto him - dare I say that we would have been in the Premiership this season and not Palace if we had kept him on our books. That's the case even without mentioning a certain Glenn Murray! Vince
  • Score: 1

1:24am Wed 23 Apr 14

Mancgulled says...

Lets hope Ashley Barnes remembers his former fans and goes all out to score against Reading when they play Burnley - none of the rest will be too bothered now .....
Lets hope Ashley Barnes remembers his former fans and goes all out to score against Reading when they play Burnley - none of the rest will be too bothered now ..... Mancgulled
  • Score: 2

1:25am Wed 23 Apr 14

jockithenoo says...

Oh!
Oh! jockithenoo
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1:40am Wed 23 Apr 14

Free money says...

Be good to see what the crowd really is on Friday and not what the club puts out.Plus its on sky don't forget.
Be good to see what the crowd really is on Friday and not what the club puts out.Plus its on sky don't forget. Free money
  • Score: -1

1:52am Wed 23 Apr 14

Free money says...

We all deffo know TK is off in the summer and im sure Ulloa,Buckley,and Ward will also not be about next season.Other clubs will have taken notice of Wards form just like they did Conway.Looks like the vile freeloading lower league rubbish got their way and their knew contracts.Like TK said a few weeks ago Brighton will have a fight on their hands next season playing with lower league rubbish like that in the team next season.
We all deffo know TK is off in the summer and im sure Ulloa,Buckley,and Ward will also not be about next season.Other clubs will have taken notice of Wards form just like they did Conway.Looks like the vile freeloading lower league rubbish got their way and their knew contracts.Like TK said a few weeks ago Brighton will have a fight on their hands next season playing with lower league rubbish like that in the team next season. Free money
  • Score: -3

8:18am Wed 23 Apr 14

TheWerewolf says...

ringtone wrote:
namgo49 wrote:
I think the thing is the manner of our failure. Recent performances against Blackpool, Ipswich and Middlesbrough were awful and inexcusable and to think that cheating bunch up at Reading have done us really sticks in the throat.
Your having a laugh, Greer should have had a straight red for his first offence, denial of a goal scoring opp.

Ref bottled it, so we get a lucky point.
Pipe down piece
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: I think the thing is the manner of our failure. Recent performances against Blackpool, Ipswich and Middlesbrough were awful and inexcusable and to think that cheating bunch up at Reading have done us really sticks in the throat.[/p][/quote]Your having a laugh, Greer should have had a straight red for his first offence, denial of a goal scoring opp. Ref bottled it, so we get a lucky point.[/p][/quote]Pipe down piece TheWerewolf
  • Score: 0

9:45am Wed 23 Apr 14

jmmr316 says...

I am amazed at some of the criticism aimed at Garcia-I think next season will be a much fairer indication of his abilities as a long term coach-He had no pre-season which meant he couldn't really put his own stamp on the squad.(Managers often quote on how important pre-season is ) With a very small budget he has done well to get Brighton where they are now-Everyone will start to point at Burnley but they have had a relatively injury free season until recently . Lets not forget how many injuries Brighton have had (of first team players)
As frustrating as it is I think this has been a good first season.
I am amazed at some of the criticism aimed at Garcia-I think next season will be a much fairer indication of his abilities as a long term coach-He had no pre-season which meant he couldn't really put his own stamp on the squad.(Managers often quote on how important pre-season is ) With a very small budget he has done well to get Brighton where they are now-Everyone will start to point at Burnley but they have had a relatively injury free season until recently . Lets not forget how many injuries Brighton have had (of first team players) As frustrating as it is I think this has been a good first season. jmmr316
  • Score: 0

11:04am Wed 23 Apr 14

Neville says...

jmmr316
Budget wise there was an increase for OG this season compared to GP season,unfortunately due to poor management,Barnes was destined to leave and this was known at the beginning of the season when he turned down the offer of a years extension and a replacement not brought in.
The money from Bridcutt and Barnes was banked by the club and not used in order to. The offer for Grabban 1.2 m didnt happen and that money remains in The Amex vaults. The budget is mid table as we keep getting reminded unfortunately the home performances have been just that.
jmmr316 Budget wise there was an increase for OG this season compared to GP season,unfortunately due to poor management,Barnes was destined to leave and this was known at the beginning of the season when he turned down the offer of a years extension and a replacement not brought in. The money from Bridcutt and Barnes was banked by the club and not used in order to. The offer for Grabban 1.2 m didnt happen and that money remains in The Amex vaults. The budget is mid table as we keep getting reminded unfortunately the home performances have been just that. Neville
  • Score: 2

11:05am Wed 23 Apr 14

Piglet1 says...

Norfolk and way wrote:
It's frankly shambolic and embaressing that we're even having to hope for other teams to help us, if we were professional we'd have made sure we did the job ourselves. You wouldn't find this sort of nonsense going on at palace. Jeez.
Didn't they creep in last year? So it did happen to them. Der...
[quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: It's frankly shambolic and embaressing that we're even having to hope for other teams to help us, if we were professional we'd have made sure we did the job ourselves. You wouldn't find this sort of nonsense going on at palace. Jeez.[/p][/quote]Didn't they creep in last year? So it did happen to them. Der... Piglet1
  • Score: 3

11:13am Wed 23 Apr 14

Piglet1 says...

Free money wrote:
We all deffo know TK is off in the summer and im sure Ulloa,Buckley,and Ward will also not be about next season.Other clubs will have taken notice of Wards form just like they did Conway.Looks like the vile freeloading lower league rubbish got their way and their knew contracts.Like TK said a few weeks ago Brighton will have a fight on their hands next season playing with lower league rubbish like that in the team next season.
Yawn. You have predicted various things without much success so I don't think you really know anything for certain. You may be right by luck, but certainty, no I don't think so.
[quote][p][bold]Free money[/bold] wrote: We all deffo know TK is off in the summer and im sure Ulloa,Buckley,and Ward will also not be about next season.Other clubs will have taken notice of Wards form just like they did Conway.Looks like the vile freeloading lower league rubbish got their way and their knew contracts.Like TK said a few weeks ago Brighton will have a fight on their hands next season playing with lower league rubbish like that in the team next season.[/p][/quote]Yawn. You have predicted various things without much success so I don't think you really know anything for certain. You may be right by luck, but certainty, no I don't think so. Piglet1
  • Score: 1

3:38pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Free money says...

Piglet1 wrote:
Free money wrote:
We all deffo know TK is off in the summer and im sure Ulloa,Buckley,and Ward will also not be about next season.Other clubs will have taken notice of Wards form just like they did Conway.Looks like the vile freeloading lower league rubbish got their way and their knew contracts.Like TK said a few weeks ago Brighton will have a fight on their hands next season playing with lower league rubbish like that in the team next season.
Yawn. You have predicted various things without much success so I don't think you really know anything for certain. You may be right by luck, but certainty, no I don't think so.
What are you talking about lol haha.I have been correct every single time.I said last summer Bridcutt would go in Jan.I said Hoskins would not play this season until the very end again at contract time.Thats why i said don't give him another year.NOW 2 MTHS B4 TK TELLS THE ARGUS IM CORRECT HE HAS HIS AGENT TALKING WITH PRE-LEAGUE CLUBS.Not bad i would say or without success.
[quote][p][bold]Piglet1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Free money[/bold] wrote: We all deffo know TK is off in the summer and im sure Ulloa,Buckley,and Ward will also not be about next season.Other clubs will have taken notice of Wards form just like they did Conway.Looks like the vile freeloading lower league rubbish got their way and their knew contracts.Like TK said a few weeks ago Brighton will have a fight on their hands next season playing with lower league rubbish like that in the team next season.[/p][/quote]Yawn. You have predicted various things without much success so I don't think you really know anything for certain. You may be right by luck, but certainty, no I don't think so.[/p][/quote]What are you talking about lol haha.I have been correct every single time.I said last summer Bridcutt would go in Jan.I said Hoskins would not play this season until the very end again at contract time.Thats why i said don't give him another year.NOW 2 MTHS B4 TK TELLS THE ARGUS IM CORRECT HE HAS HIS AGENT TALKING WITH PRE-LEAGUE CLUBS.Not bad i would say or without success. Free money
  • Score: 0

1:10pm Thu 24 Apr 14

tinker111 says...

Ken in Spain wrote:
Readings last 2 games are Doncaster and Burnley. It's theirs to lose. Looking forward to next season personally. I quite like the Championship anyway!
WE ARE NOT FIT FOR PREM OR COME TO THAT PLAY OFF'S.

BOROUGH V ALBION LOST, BOROUGH V READING (WON ) SAY'S IT ALL
[quote][p][bold]Ken in Spain[/bold] wrote: Readings last 2 games are Doncaster and Burnley. It's theirs to lose. Looking forward to next season personally. I quite like the Championship anyway![/p][/quote]WE ARE NOT FIT FOR PREM OR COME TO THAT PLAY OFF'S. BOROUGH V ALBION LOST, BOROUGH V READING (WON ) SAY'S IT ALL tinker111
  • Score: 1

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