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Oscar: We will fight to the end

The Argus: Oscar Garcia prefers to play first because it puts pressure on other teams Oscar Garcia prefers to play first because it puts pressure on other teams

Albion boss Oscar Garcia is amazed to have his team in the play-off race with two games to go.

And he has vowed they will fight to the finish to claim sixth spot.

The Seagulls dropped a place to seventh last night, a point behind Reading, as a result of the Royals’ 2-0 home win against mid-table Middlesbrough, only their second victory in seven games. Albion were held to a 1-1 draw by relegation-threatened Blackpool at the Amex on Monday but other contenders have been slipping up regularly as well.

Oscar told The Argus: “For me it’s amazing to be fighting for this place at this stage, bearing in mind what has happened during the season.

“It’s amazing to be here and have a chance to get into the play-offs. The results show that better squads than us are finding it difficult to win as well.

“We will fight until the end. That’s what we have to do and it’s what we will do.”

Albion can reclaim sixth place by beating doomed Yeovil in their final home game of the regular season on Friday evening ahead of a full programme of matches on Saturday for their promotion rivals, including Reading’s trip to relegation-threatened Doncaster.

Oscar said: “I prefer to play before, because then other teams are under more pressure.

“We know it will be difficult. It’s never easy to play against teams at the bottom because they come here to sit back and counter-attack.

“If you are not much, much better than them it’s not easy.”

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5:51am Wed 23 Apr 14

JeffLomer says...

Morning Guys,

This is the way I see yes we have dropped out the playoff position but if we beat Yeovil Friday night we put the pressure right back on Reading for there trip to Doncaster, like I've said in previous posts any team can beat any team in this league, I no it's out off hands all we can do is concentrate on beating Yeovil then who knows what will happen to Reading.

If we slip up Friday then it wasn't to be for playoffs this year for us, no good coming on here moaning about it's not been about the last four games that's decided our season, if were good enough Friday night and we get some help from else were then great if not I believe we've had a great season under Oscar in charge, believe me we have the right guy taking our great club forward!!
Up the Albion!!!!
Morning Guys, This is the way I see yes we have dropped out the playoff position but if we beat Yeovil Friday night we put the pressure right back on Reading for there trip to Doncaster, like I've said in previous posts any team can beat any team in this league, I no it's out off hands all we can do is concentrate on beating Yeovil then who knows what will happen to Reading. If we slip up Friday then it wasn't to be for playoffs this year for us, no good coming on here moaning about it's not been about the last four games that's decided our season, if were good enough Friday night and we get some help from else were then great if not I believe we've had a great season under Oscar in charge, believe me we have the right guy taking our great club forward!! Up the Albion!!!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 50

6:38am Wed 23 Apr 14

Seagull John says...

We need to win on Friday. We need to score a few goals on Friday. We need to go to Forest with a better goal difference than Reading, so a draw might still be enough. Come on Oscar. It has indeed been a difficult season. Let's finish on a high.
We need to win on Friday. We need to score a few goals on Friday. We need to go to Forest with a better goal difference than Reading, so a draw might still be enough. Come on Oscar. It has indeed been a difficult season. Let's finish on a high. Seagull John
  • Score: 35

6:41am Wed 23 Apr 14

namgo49 says...

No it's amazing Burnley got auto promo with the playing budget they have. We should and could have done much better with the budget facilities crowds etc we have.
No it's amazing Burnley got auto promo with the playing budget they have. We should and could have done much better with the budget facilities crowds etc we have. namgo49
  • Score: 5

6:42am Wed 23 Apr 14

Jonathan Mouette says...

I didn't appreciate it at the time but I now know what an astute piece of business it was to tranfer Barnesy to Burnley. Those with foresight could see that he would in fact carry on helping with the Albion cause right through to the bitter end. As we struggle to scrape 3 points at the City ground on the 3rd of May young Ash will be slotting away the winner at the Mad Jerksky stadium, thus catapulting us into the play-offs. I have often been less than polite about the suits and those responsible for football policy - and even less about AB - but I stand corrected and apologise to all concerned. They move in mysterious ways, them men in suits. Of course our first hurdle is Yeovil - and given our current record against lowly clubs (and they don't get any more lowly than the Cider Boys) this is yet another squeaky bum occasion but I remain very positive with fingers firmly crossed. UTA and, of course, dear old Ash...!!!
I didn't appreciate it at the time but I now know what an astute piece of business it was to tranfer Barnesy to Burnley. Those with foresight could see that he would in fact carry on helping with the Albion cause right through to the bitter end. As we struggle to scrape 3 points at the City ground on the 3rd of May young Ash will be slotting away the winner at the Mad Jerksky stadium, thus catapulting us into the play-offs. I have often been less than polite about the suits and those responsible for football policy - and even less about AB - but I stand corrected and apologise to all concerned. They move in mysterious ways, them men in suits. Of course our first hurdle is Yeovil - and given our current record against lowly clubs (and they don't get any more lowly than the Cider Boys) this is yet another squeaky bum occasion but I remain very positive with fingers firmly crossed. UTA and, of course, dear old Ash...!!! Jonathan Mouette
  • Score: 16

6:43am Wed 23 Apr 14

russellsnr2 says...

From above 'A point behind Reading, as a result of the Royals’ 2-0 home win against mid-table Middlesbrough'
Sorry but wrong! we are a point behind Reading because we did not beat Blackpool at home and dropped to many points when at home.
We do not have the team/players good enough available throughout the season, unlucky? maybe! but for next season the club need to give Oscar money to freshen up our team.
A week ago would have said we had the easiest run in out of all the teams vying for that 6th place but now we have not only to beat Yeovil on Friday but also go to Forrest who must still fancy there chances.
From above 'A point behind Reading, as a result of the Royals’ 2-0 home win against mid-table Middlesbrough' Sorry but wrong! we are a point behind Reading because we did not beat Blackpool at home and dropped to many points when at home. We do not have the team/players good enough available throughout the season, unlucky? maybe! but for next season the club need to give Oscar money to freshen up our team. A week ago would have said we had the easiest run in out of all the teams vying for that 6th place but now we have not only to beat Yeovil on Friday but also go to Forrest who must still fancy there chances. russellsnr2
  • Score: 7

6:52am Wed 23 Apr 14

Alfie T says...

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
I didn't appreciate it at the time but I now know what an astute piece of business it was to tranfer Barnesy to Burnley. Those with foresight could see that he would in fact carry on helping with the Albion cause right through to the bitter end. As we struggle to scrape 3 points at the City ground on the 3rd of May young Ash will be slotting away the winner at the Mad Jerksky stadium, thus catapulting us into the play-offs. I have often been less than polite about the suits and those responsible for football policy - and even less about AB - but I stand corrected and apologise to all concerned. They move in mysterious ways, them men in suits. Of course our first hurdle is Yeovil - and given our current record against lowly clubs (and they don't get any more lowly than the Cider Boys) this is yet another squeaky bum occasion but I remain very positive with fingers firmly crossed. UTA and, of course, dear old Ash...!!!
Lovely :-)
[quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: I didn't appreciate it at the time but I now know what an astute piece of business it was to tranfer Barnesy to Burnley. Those with foresight could see that he would in fact carry on helping with the Albion cause right through to the bitter end. As we struggle to scrape 3 points at the City ground on the 3rd of May young Ash will be slotting away the winner at the Mad Jerksky stadium, thus catapulting us into the play-offs. I have often been less than polite about the suits and those responsible for football policy - and even less about AB - but I stand corrected and apologise to all concerned. They move in mysterious ways, them men in suits. Of course our first hurdle is Yeovil - and given our current record against lowly clubs (and they don't get any more lowly than the Cider Boys) this is yet another squeaky bum occasion but I remain very positive with fingers firmly crossed. UTA and, of course, dear old Ash...!!![/p][/quote]Lovely :-) Alfie T
  • Score: 3

7:07am Wed 23 Apr 14

gazzamagoo says...

Let's see that 'fight' on the pitch then Oscar!
Let's see that 'fight' on the pitch then Oscar! gazzamagoo
  • Score: 24

7:17am Wed 23 Apr 14

bbb1969 says...

All we can do is win our 2 games. We need to stuff Yeovil and then play the game of our season against Forest, lets face it, that will not be difficult.
Doncaster will not be an easy place for Reading to go and if we are in the top 6 then Reading will be under pressure.
Burnley will not want to lose their last game of the season to a team they may be playing in the pl.
For Yeovil and Forest we need a mixture of speed and strength and would like to see the team below:-

Kuz
Bruno Greer Upson Ward
Buckley Ince Stephens March
Lindgard Ulloa

subs Casp Rodders Andrews CMS Lua JFC

No defenders on the bench as we need to be able to go 3-4-3 if we need the win
All we can do is win our 2 games. We need to stuff Yeovil and then play the game of our season against Forest, lets face it, that will not be difficult. Doncaster will not be an easy place for Reading to go and if we are in the top 6 then Reading will be under pressure. Burnley will not want to lose their last game of the season to a team they may be playing in the pl. For Yeovil and Forest we need a mixture of speed and strength and would like to see the team below:- Kuz Bruno Greer Upson Ward Buckley Ince Stephens March Lindgard Ulloa subs Casp Rodders Andrews CMS Lua JFC No defenders on the bench as we need to be able to go 3-4-3 if we need the win bbb1969
  • Score: 2

7:24am Wed 23 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

Which ever way it goes, I think we have been over reliant on our defence,
Next season we seem to think march will step up and hold a regular starting place, I think he will need time to develop a role, he seems neither a winger or central midfielder , but has a touch of class that should see him develop.
Ince is not a out and out midfield player, he is a defensive holding player, which he is excellent at, buy unlike poyet will OG build his team around the principle of a anchor man?
Jfc has I feel hit the ceiling , yes still young , but no pace, he goes missing and defensively not up to much, OG will do well to improve him into a championship regular.
Dunk, we have all waited and waited for the arrival of him into the side, points over this guy needs questioning,
) if he is a young talent , why is OG not playing him? Many on here like Vegas bang on about OG bringing young talent through ? It's not something OG wants to do with this lad? GG went through a poor form and no sign of dropping him? Does that leave us really thinking dunk can do a job for 40 games ?
The forwards, we now have ulloa cms and Hoskins, if we go next season with 2 up front ( something we need to consider having scored 50 odd goals) do we keep two who so far have totally failed to perform in the championship!
We know cms is paid around 17k a week, Hoskins more than 5k that's over a million pounds in wages for these ! Do we cut Hoskins loose and bring a loan player in?
The wingers .... Buckley can't be relied apron to play more than 3-4 in a row without his hamstrings going, and I feel our chance to sell him should have been taken..
Lua lua, can we offer him a deal based on his hit and miss form?
Questions for those like me who have committed to another season ticket, is are we really serious about promotion next season, yes we have a chance of the play offs, but in reality that's because the standard is lower than last.
There needs to be a lot of players allowed to leave and fresh blood to arrive, will OG be picking these targets or is Day and Burke in charge?
Our fantastic 30 million pound training facility is nearly ready, who is going to run the academy? Having the infrastructure means nothing unless you have someone who knows the system and has scouts across Europe, Liam Brady retires from arsenal next week.. Is he the man to take us forward ?
Then we have OG himself, will he take the chance to go to the premiership?
Big summer coming whatever happens in the next ten days
Which ever way it goes, I think we have been over reliant on our defence, Next season we seem to think march will step up and hold a regular starting place, I think he will need time to develop a role, he seems neither a winger or central midfielder , but has a touch of class that should see him develop. Ince is not a out and out midfield player, he is a defensive holding player, which he is excellent at, buy unlike poyet will OG build his team around the principle of a anchor man? Jfc has I feel hit the ceiling , yes still young , but no pace, he goes missing and defensively not up to much, OG will do well to improve him into a championship regular. Dunk, we have all waited and waited for the arrival of him into the side, points over this guy needs questioning, ) if he is a young talent , why is OG not playing him? Many on here like Vegas bang on about OG bringing young talent through ? It's not something OG wants to do with this lad? GG went through a poor form and no sign of dropping him? Does that leave us really thinking dunk can do a job for 40 games ? The forwards, we now have ulloa cms and Hoskins, if we go next season with 2 up front ( something we need to consider having scored 50 odd goals) do we keep two who so far have totally failed to perform in the championship! We know cms is paid around 17k a week, Hoskins more than 5k that's over a million pounds in wages for these ! Do we cut Hoskins loose and bring a loan player in? The wingers .... Buckley can't be relied apron to play more than 3-4 in a row without his hamstrings going, and I feel our chance to sell him should have been taken.. Lua lua, can we offer him a deal based on his hit and miss form? Questions for those like me who have committed to another season ticket, is are we really serious about promotion next season, yes we have a chance of the play offs, but in reality that's because the standard is lower than last. There needs to be a lot of players allowed to leave and fresh blood to arrive, will OG be picking these targets or is Day and Burke in charge? Our fantastic 30 million pound training facility is nearly ready, who is going to run the academy? Having the infrastructure means nothing unless you have someone who knows the system and has scouts across Europe, Liam Brady retires from arsenal next week.. Is he the man to take us forward ? Then we have OG himself, will he take the chance to go to the premiership? Big summer coming whatever happens in the next ten days mark by the sea
  • Score: 18

7:44am Wed 23 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

bbb1969 wrote:
All we can do is win our 2 games. We need to stuff Yeovil and then play the game of our season against Forest, lets face it, that will not be difficult.
Doncaster will not be an easy place for Reading to go and if we are in the top 6 then Reading will be under pressure.
Burnley will not want to lose their last game of the season to a team they may be playing in the pl.
For Yeovil and Forest we need a mixture of speed and strength and would like to see the team below:-

Kuz
Bruno Greer Upson Ward
Buckley Ince Stephens March
Lindgard Ulloa

subs Casp Rodders Andrews CMS Lua JFC

No defenders on the bench as we need to be able to go 3-4-3 if we need the win
Don't think march will start , he looked a bag of nerves .
[quote][p][bold]bbb1969[/bold] wrote: All we can do is win our 2 games. We need to stuff Yeovil and then play the game of our season against Forest, lets face it, that will not be difficult. Doncaster will not be an easy place for Reading to go and if we are in the top 6 then Reading will be under pressure. Burnley will not want to lose their last game of the season to a team they may be playing in the pl. For Yeovil and Forest we need a mixture of speed and strength and would like to see the team below:- Kuz Bruno Greer Upson Ward Buckley Ince Stephens March Lindgard Ulloa subs Casp Rodders Andrews CMS Lua JFC No defenders on the bench as we need to be able to go 3-4-3 if we need the win[/p][/quote]Don't think march will start , he looked a bag of nerves . mark by the sea
  • Score: 4

7:54am Wed 23 Apr 14

Aldrington Halt says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Morning Guys,

This is the way I see yes we have dropped out the playoff position but if we beat Yeovil Friday night we put the pressure right back on Reading for there trip to Doncaster, like I've said in previous posts any team can beat any team in this league, I no it's out off hands all we can do is concentrate on beating Yeovil then who knows what will happen to Reading.

If we slip up Friday then it wasn't to be for playoffs this year for us, no good coming on here moaning about it's not been about the last four games that's decided our season, if were good enough Friday night and we get some help from else were then great if not I believe we've had a great season under Oscar in charge, believe me we have the right guy taking our great club forward!!
Up the Albion!!!!
Well said Jeff, we're not fighting relegation here or languishing in mid table we still have a good chance to extend our season and need to tap into some reserves of fighting spirit to make it happen, you can do it guys SEAGULLS!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Morning Guys, This is the way I see yes we have dropped out the playoff position but if we beat Yeovil Friday night we put the pressure right back on Reading for there trip to Doncaster, like I've said in previous posts any team can beat any team in this league, I no it's out off hands all we can do is concentrate on beating Yeovil then who knows what will happen to Reading. If we slip up Friday then it wasn't to be for playoffs this year for us, no good coming on here moaning about it's not been about the last four games that's decided our season, if were good enough Friday night and we get some help from else were then great if not I believe we've had a great season under Oscar in charge, believe me we have the right guy taking our great club forward!! Up the Albion!!!![/p][/quote]Well said Jeff, we're not fighting relegation here or languishing in mid table we still have a good chance to extend our season and need to tap into some reserves of fighting spirit to make it happen, you can do it guys SEAGULLS!!!!! Aldrington Halt
  • Score: 11

7:58am Wed 23 Apr 14

TheWerewolf says...

Seagull John wrote:
We need to win on Friday. We need to score a few goals on Friday. We need to go to Forest with a better goal difference than Reading, so a draw might still be enough. Come on Oscar. It has indeed been a difficult season. Let's finish on a high.
Won't come down to goal diff. If we are to get into playoffs need to win both games. Being 1 point behind reading they would need to draw at least 1 game hence meaning we finish above them by a point. Think we will beat Yeovil since they are down anyway even if not yet mathematically. All down to us v forest and reading v burnley. Lottery....I'm feeling lucky UTA
[quote][p][bold]Seagull John[/bold] wrote: We need to win on Friday. We need to score a few goals on Friday. We need to go to Forest with a better goal difference than Reading, so a draw might still be enough. Come on Oscar. It has indeed been a difficult season. Let's finish on a high.[/p][/quote]Won't come down to goal diff. If we are to get into playoffs need to win both games. Being 1 point behind reading they would need to draw at least 1 game hence meaning we finish above them by a point. Think we will beat Yeovil since they are down anyway even if not yet mathematically. All down to us v forest and reading v burnley. Lottery....I'm feeling lucky UTA TheWerewolf
  • Score: 6

8:34am Wed 23 Apr 14

captaincurses says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Which ever way it goes, I think we have been over reliant on our defence, Next season we seem to think march will step up and hold a regular starting place, I think he will need time to develop a role, he seems neither a winger or central midfielder , but has a touch of class that should see him develop. Ince is not a out and out midfield player, he is a defensive holding player, which he is excellent at, buy unlike poyet will OG build his team around the principle of a anchor man? Jfc has I feel hit the ceiling , yes still young , but no pace, he goes missing and defensively not up to much, OG will do well to improve him into a championship regular. Dunk, we have all waited and waited for the arrival of him into the side, points over this guy needs questioning, ) if he is a young talent , why is OG not playing him? Many on here like Vegas bang on about OG bringing young talent through ? It's not something OG wants to do with this lad? GG went through a poor form and no sign of dropping him? Does that leave us really thinking dunk can do a job for 40 games ? The forwards, we now have ulloa cms and Hoskins, if we go next season with 2 up front ( something we need to consider having scored 50 odd goals) do we keep two who so far have totally failed to perform in the championship! We know cms is paid around 17k a week, Hoskins more than 5k that's over a million pounds in wages for these ! Do we cut Hoskins loose and bring a loan player in? The wingers .... Buckley can't be relied apron to play more than 3-4 in a row without his hamstrings going, and I feel our chance to sell him should have been taken.. Lua lua, can we offer him a deal based on his hit and miss form? Questions for those like me who have committed to another season ticket, is are we really serious about promotion next season, yes we have a chance of the play offs, but in reality that's because the standard is lower than last. There needs to be a lot of players allowed to leave and fresh blood to arrive, will OG be picking these targets or is Day and Burke in charge? Our fantastic 30 million pound training facility is nearly ready, who is going to run the academy? Having the infrastructure means nothing unless you have someone who knows the system and has scouts across Europe, Liam Brady retires from arsenal next week.. Is he the man to take us forward ? Then we have OG himself, will he take the chance to go to the premiership? Big summer coming whatever happens in the next ten days
Comments on the younger players are spot on MBTS. March is most suited to an attacking central midfielder in the longterm.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Which ever way it goes, I think we have been over reliant on our defence, Next season we seem to think march will step up and hold a regular starting place, I think he will need time to develop a role, he seems neither a winger or central midfielder , but has a touch of class that should see him develop. Ince is not a out and out midfield player, he is a defensive holding player, which he is excellent at, buy unlike poyet will OG build his team around the principle of a anchor man? Jfc has I feel hit the ceiling , yes still young , but no pace, he goes missing and defensively not up to much, OG will do well to improve him into a championship regular. Dunk, we have all waited and waited for the arrival of him into the side, points over this guy needs questioning, ) if he is a young talent , why is OG not playing him? Many on here like Vegas bang on about OG bringing young talent through ? It's not something OG wants to do with this lad? GG went through a poor form and no sign of dropping him? Does that leave us really thinking dunk can do a job for 40 games ? The forwards, we now have ulloa cms and Hoskins, if we go next season with 2 up front ( something we need to consider having scored 50 odd goals) do we keep two who so far have totally failed to perform in the championship! We know cms is paid around 17k a week, Hoskins more than 5k that's over a million pounds in wages for these ! Do we cut Hoskins loose and bring a loan player in? The wingers .... Buckley can't be relied apron to play more than 3-4 in a row without his hamstrings going, and I feel our chance to sell him should have been taken.. Lua lua, can we offer him a deal based on his hit and miss form? Questions for those like me who have committed to another season ticket, is are we really serious about promotion next season, yes we have a chance of the play offs, but in reality that's because the standard is lower than last. There needs to be a lot of players allowed to leave and fresh blood to arrive, will OG be picking these targets or is Day and Burke in charge? Our fantastic 30 million pound training facility is nearly ready, who is going to run the academy? Having the infrastructure means nothing unless you have someone who knows the system and has scouts across Europe, Liam Brady retires from arsenal next week.. Is he the man to take us forward ? Then we have OG himself, will he take the chance to go to the premiership? Big summer coming whatever happens in the next ten days[/p][/quote]Comments on the younger players are spot on MBTS. March is most suited to an attacking central midfielder in the longterm. captaincurses
  • Score: 2

9:03am Wed 23 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

A question to the guys talking about the mind doctor peters and his work at Liverpool, I think it was ex pat Arnie ? Do you think that we are getting the best from our players when some know they won't be kept on at the club?
Some may have there partners saying there kids are happy here, pressure from family to sort out there futures?
I suppose it's similar in someways to working for a firm knowing redundancy is coming to cut costs? No one really knows who is leaving, that in itself must cause stress to those involved? For me personally I would be looking for another job if that hung over me,
TK to Hull or Burnley is what I have been told by someone in the know,
I just wonder if TK really wants to leave and move his family?
Replacing him won't come cheap, the club need a core of " premiership ready" players..
A question to the guys talking about the mind doctor peters and his work at Liverpool, I think it was ex pat Arnie ? Do you think that we are getting the best from our players when some know they won't be kept on at the club? Some may have there partners saying there kids are happy here, pressure from family to sort out there futures? I suppose it's similar in someways to working for a firm knowing redundancy is coming to cut costs? No one really knows who is leaving, that in itself must cause stress to those involved? For me personally I would be looking for another job if that hung over me, TK to Hull or Burnley is what I have been told by someone in the know, I just wonder if TK really wants to leave and move his family? Replacing him won't come cheap, the club need a core of " premiership ready" players.. mark by the sea
  • Score: 5

9:05am Wed 23 Apr 14

Asleep in Dorset says...

said all along, B'ton v Forest is the game that should be televised next weekend, not the dead rubber game this Friday !!
said all along, B'ton v Forest is the game that should be televised next weekend, not the dead rubber game this Friday !! Asleep in Dorset
  • Score: -3

9:06am Wed 23 Apr 14

JeffLomer says...

Aldrington Halt wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
Morning Guys,

This is the way I see yes we have dropped out the playoff position but if we beat Yeovil Friday night we put the pressure right back on Reading for there trip to Doncaster, like I've said in previous posts any team can beat any team in this league, I no it's out off hands all we can do is concentrate on beating Yeovil then who knows what will happen to Reading.

If we slip up Friday then it wasn't to be for playoffs this year for us, no good coming on here moaning about it's not been about the last four games that's decided our season, if were good enough Friday night and we get some help from else were then great if not I believe we've had a great season under Oscar in charge, believe me we have the right guy taking our great club forward!!
Up the Albion!!!!
Well said Jeff, we're not fighting relegation here or languishing in mid table we still have a good chance to extend our season and need to tap into some reserves of fighting spirit to make it happen, you can do it guys SEAGULLS!!!!!
Aldrington Halt

Spot on until it's impossible to make the playoffs we've got to beieve we can make them, some posts on here after the Blackpool game you would off thought we were in a relagation battle, we was not in playoffs going in to Huddersfield game, there's going to be twist and turns these last two games, Reading are looking over there shoulder at the chasing pack behind them, onwards and upwards
Uo the Albion!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Aldrington Halt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Morning Guys, This is the way I see yes we have dropped out the playoff position but if we beat Yeovil Friday night we put the pressure right back on Reading for there trip to Doncaster, like I've said in previous posts any team can beat any team in this league, I no it's out off hands all we can do is concentrate on beating Yeovil then who knows what will happen to Reading. If we slip up Friday then it wasn't to be for playoffs this year for us, no good coming on here moaning about it's not been about the last four games that's decided our season, if were good enough Friday night and we get some help from else were then great if not I believe we've had a great season under Oscar in charge, believe me we have the right guy taking our great club forward!! Up the Albion!!!![/p][/quote]Well said Jeff, we're not fighting relegation here or languishing in mid table we still have a good chance to extend our season and need to tap into some reserves of fighting spirit to make it happen, you can do it guys SEAGULLS!!!!![/p][/quote]Aldrington Halt Spot on until it's impossible to make the playoffs we've got to beieve we can make them, some posts on here after the Blackpool game you would off thought we were in a relagation battle, we was not in playoffs going in to Huddersfield game, there's going to be twist and turns these last two games, Reading are looking over there shoulder at the chasing pack behind them, onwards and upwards Uo the Albion!!!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 3

9:12am Wed 23 Apr 14

sean04 says...

TheWerewolf wrote:
Seagull John wrote:
We need to win on Friday. We need to score a few goals on Friday. We need to go to Forest with a better goal difference than Reading, so a draw might still be enough. Come on Oscar. It has indeed been a difficult season. Let's finish on a high.
Won't come down to goal diff. If we are to get into playoffs need to win both games. Being 1 point behind reading they would need to draw at least 1 game hence meaning we finish above them by a point. Think we will beat Yeovil since they are down anyway even if not yet mathematically. All down to us v forest and reading v burnley. Lottery....I'm feeling lucky UTA
I also wouldn't write off Ipswich and Forest. Ipswich are playing Burnley on sat who have just sealed promotion, and Forest seem to be picking up points again. This would be exciting if I were a neutral, but instead it's very nervy!
[quote][p][bold]TheWerewolf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seagull John[/bold] wrote: We need to win on Friday. We need to score a few goals on Friday. We need to go to Forest with a better goal difference than Reading, so a draw might still be enough. Come on Oscar. It has indeed been a difficult season. Let's finish on a high.[/p][/quote]Won't come down to goal diff. If we are to get into playoffs need to win both games. Being 1 point behind reading they would need to draw at least 1 game hence meaning we finish above them by a point. Think we will beat Yeovil since they are down anyway even if not yet mathematically. All down to us v forest and reading v burnley. Lottery....I'm feeling lucky UTA[/p][/quote]I also wouldn't write off Ipswich and Forest. Ipswich are playing Burnley on sat who have just sealed promotion, and Forest seem to be picking up points again. This would be exciting if I were a neutral, but instead it's very nervy! sean04
  • Score: 5

9:20am Wed 23 Apr 14

JeffLomer says...

Asleep in Dorset wrote:
said all along, B'ton v Forest is the game that should be televised next weekend, not the dead rubber game this Friday !!
unfortunately no games are ever shown live last game off the season, what baffles me why change the games to a early Kickoff!!!!
Up the Albion!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Asleep in Dorset[/bold] wrote: said all along, B'ton v Forest is the game that should be televised next weekend, not the dead rubber game this Friday !![/p][/quote]unfortunately no games are ever shown live last game off the season, what baffles me why change the games to a early Kickoff!!!! Up the Albion!!!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 2

9:27am Wed 23 Apr 14

TheWerewolf says...

sean04 wrote:
TheWerewolf wrote:
Seagull John wrote:
We need to win on Friday. We need to score a few goals on Friday. We need to go to Forest with a better goal difference than Reading, so a draw might still be enough. Come on Oscar. It has indeed been a difficult season. Let's finish on a high.
Won't come down to goal diff. If we are to get into playoffs need to win both games. Being 1 point behind reading they would need to draw at least 1 game hence meaning we finish above them by a point. Think we will beat Yeovil since they are down anyway even if not yet mathematically. All down to us v forest and reading v burnley. Lottery....I'm feeling lucky UTA
I also wouldn't write off Ipswich and Forest. Ipswich are playing Burnley on sat who have just sealed promotion, and Forest seem to be picking up points again. This would be exciting if I were a neutral, but instead it's very nervy!
Fair point, but really it should be between us and Reading if anything were predictable in this league!
[quote][p][bold]sean04[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheWerewolf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seagull John[/bold] wrote: We need to win on Friday. We need to score a few goals on Friday. We need to go to Forest with a better goal difference than Reading, so a draw might still be enough. Come on Oscar. It has indeed been a difficult season. Let's finish on a high.[/p][/quote]Won't come down to goal diff. If we are to get into playoffs need to win both games. Being 1 point behind reading they would need to draw at least 1 game hence meaning we finish above them by a point. Think we will beat Yeovil since they are down anyway even if not yet mathematically. All down to us v forest and reading v burnley. Lottery....I'm feeling lucky UTA[/p][/quote]I also wouldn't write off Ipswich and Forest. Ipswich are playing Burnley on sat who have just sealed promotion, and Forest seem to be picking up points again. This would be exciting if I were a neutral, but instead it's very nervy![/p][/quote]Fair point, but really it should be between us and Reading if anything were predictable in this league! TheWerewolf
  • Score: 2

9:44am Wed 23 Apr 14

Max Ripple says...

mark by the sea wrote:
A question to the guys talking about the mind doctor peters and his work at Liverpool, I think it was ex pat Arnie ? Do you think that we are getting the best from our players when some know they won't be kept on at the club?
Some may have there partners saying there kids are happy here, pressure from family to sort out there futures?
I suppose it's similar in someways to working for a firm knowing redundancy is coming to cut costs? No one really knows who is leaving, that in itself must cause stress to those involved? For me personally I would be looking for another job if that hung over me,
TK to Hull or Burnley is what I have been told by someone in the know,
I just wonder if TK really wants to leave and move his family?
Replacing him won't come cheap, the club need a core of " premiership ready" players..
I agree MBTS. Players get uneasy about not getting a longer term deal. Loads of them don't know what their future is. All equals stress. The argument that not offering new contracts until the end of the season is good as it keeps players on their toes doesn't hold water with me. Players and their agents start looking around elsewhere. Even if they keep it to themselves. We may well struggle to keep several players that we decide we want to hold on to if we don't get promotion. I'm not sure they'll stay even if we just make it to the play offs.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: A question to the guys talking about the mind doctor peters and his work at Liverpool, I think it was ex pat Arnie ? Do you think that we are getting the best from our players when some know they won't be kept on at the club? Some may have there partners saying there kids are happy here, pressure from family to sort out there futures? I suppose it's similar in someways to working for a firm knowing redundancy is coming to cut costs? No one really knows who is leaving, that in itself must cause stress to those involved? For me personally I would be looking for another job if that hung over me, TK to Hull or Burnley is what I have been told by someone in the know, I just wonder if TK really wants to leave and move his family? Replacing him won't come cheap, the club need a core of " premiership ready" players..[/p][/quote]I agree MBTS. Players get uneasy about not getting a longer term deal. Loads of them don't know what their future is. All equals stress. The argument that not offering new contracts until the end of the season is good as it keeps players on their toes doesn't hold water with me. Players and their agents start looking around elsewhere. Even if they keep it to themselves. We may well struggle to keep several players that we decide we want to hold on to if we don't get promotion. I'm not sure they'll stay even if we just make it to the play offs. Max Ripple
  • Score: 4

9:44am Wed 23 Apr 14

Max Ripple says...

mark by the sea wrote:
A question to the guys talking about the mind doctor peters and his work at Liverpool, I think it was ex pat Arnie ? Do you think that we are getting the best from our players when some know they won't be kept on at the club?
Some may have there partners saying there kids are happy here, pressure from family to sort out there futures?
I suppose it's similar in someways to working for a firm knowing redundancy is coming to cut costs? No one really knows who is leaving, that in itself must cause stress to those involved? For me personally I would be looking for another job if that hung over me,
TK to Hull or Burnley is what I have been told by someone in the know,
I just wonder if TK really wants to leave and move his family?
Replacing him won't come cheap, the club need a core of " premiership ready" players..
I agree MBTS. Players get uneasy about not getting a longer term deal. Loads of them don't know what their future is. All equals stress. The argument that not offering new contracts until the end of the season is good as it keeps players on their toes doesn't hold water with me. Players and their agents start looking around elsewhere. Even if they keep it to themselves. We may well struggle to keep several players that we decide we want to hold on to if we don't get promotion. I'm not sure they'll stay even if we just make it to the play offs.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: A question to the guys talking about the mind doctor peters and his work at Liverpool, I think it was ex pat Arnie ? Do you think that we are getting the best from our players when some know they won't be kept on at the club? Some may have there partners saying there kids are happy here, pressure from family to sort out there futures? I suppose it's similar in someways to working for a firm knowing redundancy is coming to cut costs? No one really knows who is leaving, that in itself must cause stress to those involved? For me personally I would be looking for another job if that hung over me, TK to Hull or Burnley is what I have been told by someone in the know, I just wonder if TK really wants to leave and move his family? Replacing him won't come cheap, the club need a core of " premiership ready" players..[/p][/quote]I agree MBTS. Players get uneasy about not getting a longer term deal. Loads of them don't know what their future is. All equals stress. The argument that not offering new contracts until the end of the season is good as it keeps players on their toes doesn't hold water with me. Players and their agents start looking around elsewhere. Even if they keep it to themselves. We may well struggle to keep several players that we decide we want to hold on to if we don't get promotion. I'm not sure they'll stay even if we just make it to the play offs. Max Ripple
  • Score: 2

9:54am Wed 23 Apr 14

Cap'n Pugwash says...

Asleep in Dorset wrote:
said all along, B'ton v Forest is the game that should be televised next weekend, not the dead rubber game this Friday !!
It could be all over on Friday night if our strikers and midfield play like they did against Blackpool. Yeovil will not want to go down without a fight so any hopes of any easy game can be forgotten.

On Monday morning our fate was in our own hands, now we are relying on others to slip up-let's hope everybody at The Albion is up for winning the next two games to give us at least a chance of getting into the top 6.
[quote][p][bold]Asleep in Dorset[/bold] wrote: said all along, B'ton v Forest is the game that should be televised next weekend, not the dead rubber game this Friday !![/p][/quote]It could be all over on Friday night if our strikers and midfield play like they did against Blackpool. Yeovil will not want to go down without a fight so any hopes of any easy game can be forgotten. On Monday morning our fate was in our own hands, now we are relying on others to slip up-let's hope everybody at The Albion is up for winning the next two games to give us at least a chance of getting into the top 6. Cap'n Pugwash
  • Score: 2

10:01am Wed 23 Apr 14

SecondReserve says...

Obviously the right things for Garcia to say but perhaps he'd like to explain to all of us who were there on Monday exactly why there was a total lack of both fight and passion from his team when we went into the match in prime position to make the play-offs and the opposition were absolutely mediocre.
Obviously the right things for Garcia to say but perhaps he'd like to explain to all of us who were there on Monday exactly why there was a total lack of both fight and passion from his team when we went into the match in prime position to make the play-offs and the opposition were absolutely mediocre. SecondReserve
  • Score: 16

10:02am Wed 23 Apr 14

Aldrington Halt says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Aldrington Halt wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
Morning Guys,

This is the way I see yes we have dropped out the playoff position but if we beat Yeovil Friday night we put the pressure right back on Reading for there trip to Doncaster, like I've said in previous posts any team can beat any team in this league, I no it's out off hands all we can do is concentrate on beating Yeovil then who knows what will happen to Reading.

If we slip up Friday then it wasn't to be for playoffs this year for us, no good coming on here moaning about it's not been about the last four games that's decided our season, if were good enough Friday night and we get some help from else were then great if not I believe we've had a great season under Oscar in charge, believe me we have the right guy taking our great club forward!!
Up the Albion!!!!
Well said Jeff, we're not fighting relegation here or languishing in mid table we still have a good chance to extend our season and need to tap into some reserves of fighting spirit to make it happen, you can do it guys SEAGULLS!!!!!
Aldrington Halt

Spot on until it's impossible to make the playoffs we've got to beieve we can make them, some posts on here after the Blackpool game you would off thought we were in a relagation battle, we was not in playoffs going in to Huddersfield game, there's going to be twist and turns these last two games, Reading are looking over there shoulder at the chasing pack behind them, onwards and upwards
Uo the Albion!!!!
Indeed Jeff, we are in contention for a place, deservedly so and we are still roaming almost uncharted territory here at the top end of the Championship, and to all those 'fans' of a negative disposition IMHO something to be proud of.. Fan; Fancy or Fanatic should mean you are marked by excessive enthusiasm and often intense uncritical devotion, so how about enthusing on the positive aspects of these last two trials we face instead of talking about next season? UTA
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aldrington Halt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Morning Guys, This is the way I see yes we have dropped out the playoff position but if we beat Yeovil Friday night we put the pressure right back on Reading for there trip to Doncaster, like I've said in previous posts any team can beat any team in this league, I no it's out off hands all we can do is concentrate on beating Yeovil then who knows what will happen to Reading. If we slip up Friday then it wasn't to be for playoffs this year for us, no good coming on here moaning about it's not been about the last four games that's decided our season, if were good enough Friday night and we get some help from else were then great if not I believe we've had a great season under Oscar in charge, believe me we have the right guy taking our great club forward!! Up the Albion!!!![/p][/quote]Well said Jeff, we're not fighting relegation here or languishing in mid table we still have a good chance to extend our season and need to tap into some reserves of fighting spirit to make it happen, you can do it guys SEAGULLS!!!!![/p][/quote]Aldrington Halt Spot on until it's impossible to make the playoffs we've got to beieve we can make them, some posts on here after the Blackpool game you would off thought we were in a relagation battle, we was not in playoffs going in to Huddersfield game, there's going to be twist and turns these last two games, Reading are looking over there shoulder at the chasing pack behind them, onwards and upwards Uo the Albion!!!![/p][/quote]Indeed Jeff, we are in contention for a place, deservedly so and we are still roaming almost uncharted territory here at the top end of the Championship, and to all those 'fans' of a negative disposition IMHO something to be proud of.. Fan; Fancy or Fanatic should mean you are marked by excessive enthusiasm and often intense uncritical devotion, so how about enthusing on the positive aspects of these last two trials we face instead of talking about next season? UTA Aldrington Halt
  • Score: -3

10:02am Wed 23 Apr 14

fratsomrover says...

I apologise if this repeating something I posted earlier, but when Oscar says
"“For me it’s amazing to be fighting for this place at this stage"
“It’s amazing to be here and have a chance to get into the play-offs"

Yes it is amazing because we should be in a position where a top 6 place is already guaranteed. It's amazing that we haven't secured that place already. Just look at the number of home points dropped against inferior opposition
On the Blackpool match Oscar said
"We wanted to start brightly but we couldn't because Blackpool kept the ball and it was hard for us to get it back."

For Christs sake, what does he expect ? Isn't that part of the game, to stop your opposition from getting the ball. What did he expect, that they would keep giving it to us ?

Our tactics Oscar are to stop teams dictating how they want to play the game. Maybe playing a higher line, keeping pressure on their back four so that their keeper cant keep feeding the ball to the full backs and forcing him to kick it long just might improve our chances of gaining possession a little more often ?
I wrote last week that we had total control of our own destiny and that fortune would favor the brave (bold).
Was it really asking so much to be brave for the first 45 minutes on Monday, to take the game to the opposition, to strike first and really get them rocking. We had nothing to lose and everything to gain yet we went out with a whimper. How many shots on target in those first 45 mins ?
Now we have conceded our position to Reading and the blame lies with the strategist who defines how the team plays.
I apologise if this repeating something I posted earlier, but when Oscar says "“For me it’s amazing to be fighting for this place at this stage" “It’s amazing to be here and have a chance to get into the play-offs" Yes it is amazing because we should be in a position where a top 6 place is already guaranteed. It's amazing that we haven't secured that place already. Just look at the number of home points dropped against inferior opposition On the Blackpool match Oscar said "We wanted to start brightly but we couldn't because Blackpool kept the ball and it was hard for us to get it back." For Christs sake, what does he expect ? Isn't that part of the game, to stop your opposition from getting the ball. What did he expect, that they would keep giving it to us ? Our tactics Oscar are to stop teams dictating how they want to play the game. Maybe playing a higher line, keeping pressure on their back four so that their keeper cant keep feeding the ball to the full backs and forcing him to kick it long just might improve our chances of gaining possession a little more often ? I wrote last week that we had total control of our own destiny and that fortune would favor the brave (bold). Was it really asking so much to be brave for the first 45 minutes on Monday, to take the game to the opposition, to strike first and really get them rocking. We had nothing to lose and everything to gain yet we went out with a whimper. How many shots on target in those first 45 mins ? Now we have conceded our position to Reading and the blame lies with the strategist who defines how the team plays. fratsomrover
  • Score: 9

10:06am Wed 23 Apr 14

kiwigull14 says...

Being a long time fan, but now in New Zealand, I'm happy to be able to see
any Seagulls game live here. I really don't see Albion progressing past the play offs if they in fact manage to reach them.
OK I don't see the whole games each week, just the highlights on Player, but
just being on the edge of making the play-offs, is a credit the whole team, considering the injuries they had early season.
The few games I've managed to see live have not impressed me, and has been obvious that they needed more flare up front, which suddenly appeared at Leicester recently, but have again recently failed to take their chances.
In such a competitive league, nothing is a given, so expect a tough night again on Friday.
Would dearly love to be proved completely wrong, and see the Albion reach
the big league, which is no more than you fantastic supporters deserve.
Being a long time fan, but now in New Zealand, I'm happy to be able to see any Seagulls game live here. I really don't see Albion progressing past the play offs if they in fact manage to reach them. OK I don't see the whole games each week, just the highlights on Player, but just being on the edge of making the play-offs, is a credit the whole team, considering the injuries they had early season. The few games I've managed to see live have not impressed me, and has been obvious that they needed more flare up front, which suddenly appeared at Leicester recently, but have again recently failed to take their chances. In such a competitive league, nothing is a given, so expect a tough night again on Friday. Would dearly love to be proved completely wrong, and see the Albion reach the big league, which is no more than you fantastic supporters deserve. kiwigull14
  • Score: 2

10:19am Wed 23 Apr 14

Ken from Beamish says...

Interesting comments by Oscar. He is "amazed" to be challenging for the play-offs ....which tells us a lot about how he has been feeling. It has been increasingly obvious that he has become more and more frustrated with the lack of sufficient support from the Board to help strengthen the squad. He has mentioned (on numerous occasions) the "difficult" transfer window in January when the squad actually depleted in quality rather than grew. This lack of belief that the squad was strong enough was also echoed by the likes of Bruno, Orlandi and Tomas K. So, great that we still have a chance to make the play-offs. However, the message from the manager after the Blackpool game was that he saw a need for "lots" of changes for next season, e.g. a much bigger squad....irrespectiv
e of which league we are in. What's worrying is his need to go more and more public with these statements prior to important games. I take the view that the support that he feels he needs is unlikely to be forthcoming next season, and he is starting to question whether he wants to be in a similar position throughout next season. These comments can only have a negative effect on players and he is starting to sound like Poyet. It would be good to have a statement from Barber about the comparative playing budget for next year. We were told that this year it had increased by 6% - hard to believe that this has been fully utilised. At a time when season ticket renewals have been triggered, the fans deserve to understand what the ambition of the club is for next year. I rather think that is what Oscar is looking for as well before he commits his future. The fact he has gone public suggests he does not feel this is in place..or not yet at least.
Interesting comments by Oscar. He is "amazed" to be challenging for the play-offs ....which tells us a lot about how he has been feeling. It has been increasingly obvious that he has become more and more frustrated with the lack of sufficient support from the Board to help strengthen the squad. He has mentioned (on numerous occasions) the "difficult" transfer window in January when the squad actually depleted in quality rather than grew. This lack of belief that the squad was strong enough was also echoed by the likes of Bruno, Orlandi and Tomas K. So, great that we still have a chance to make the play-offs. However, the message from the manager after the Blackpool game was that he saw a need for "lots" of changes for next season, e.g. a much bigger squad....irrespectiv e of which league we are in. What's worrying is his need to go more and more public with these statements prior to important games. I take the view that the support that he feels he needs is unlikely to be forthcoming next season, and he is starting to question whether he wants to be in a similar position throughout next season. These comments can only have a negative effect on players and he is starting to sound like Poyet. It would be good to have a statement from Barber about the comparative playing budget for next year. We were told that this year it had increased by 6% - hard to believe that this has been fully utilised. At a time when season ticket renewals have been triggered, the fans deserve to understand what the ambition of the club is for next year. I rather think that is what Oscar is looking for as well before he commits his future. The fact he has gone public suggests he does not feel this is in place..or not yet at least. Ken from Beamish
  • Score: 5

10:36am Wed 23 Apr 14

Claude Back says...

fratsomrover wrote:
I apologise if this repeating something I posted earlier, but when Oscar says
"“For me it’s amazing to be fighting for this place at this stage"
“It’s amazing to be here and have a chance to get into the play-offs"

Yes it is amazing because we should be in a position where a top 6 place is already guaranteed. It's amazing that we haven't secured that place already. Just look at the number of home points dropped against inferior opposition
On the Blackpool match Oscar said
"We wanted to start brightly but we couldn't because Blackpool kept the ball and it was hard for us to get it back."

For Christs sake, what does he expect ? Isn't that part of the game, to stop your opposition from getting the ball. What did he expect, that they would keep giving it to us ?

Our tactics Oscar are to stop teams dictating how they want to play the game. Maybe playing a higher line, keeping pressure on their back four so that their keeper cant keep feeding the ball to the full backs and forcing him to kick it long just might improve our chances of gaining possession a little more often ?
I wrote last week that we had total control of our own destiny and that fortune would favor the brave (bold).
Was it really asking so much to be brave for the first 45 minutes on Monday, to take the game to the opposition, to strike first and really get them rocking. We had nothing to lose and everything to gain yet we went out with a whimper. How many shots on target in those first 45 mins ?
Now we have conceded our position to Reading and the blame lies with the strategist who defines how the team plays.
Well said.
It's a pity that Jeff Lomer and Aldrington Halt etc cannot evaluate evidence like you or MTBS. Their confidence in Garcia to take us forward is simply amazing considering what he has done so far, i.e. nothing! Clearly they are satisfied with under achievement.
His poor tactics and team selection have us scraping for a Play Off place when we should have wrapped this up long ago with the squad we have, yet they think we should be grateful and have had a wonderful season! It would suggest they are newcomers to watching football or have poor judgement.
Being an Albion supporter doesn't have to mean you leave your brain behind when you watch them.
(Freeloaders would say you have to have your own brain not someone else's. Where is he? I miss his amusing comments although I suspect he is posting under one or two non de plumes. Never understand why some on here get so angry with him and his like. At least the trolls provide much needed humour.)
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: I apologise if this repeating something I posted earlier, but when Oscar says "“For me it’s amazing to be fighting for this place at this stage" “It’s amazing to be here and have a chance to get into the play-offs" Yes it is amazing because we should be in a position where a top 6 place is already guaranteed. It's amazing that we haven't secured that place already. Just look at the number of home points dropped against inferior opposition On the Blackpool match Oscar said "We wanted to start brightly but we couldn't because Blackpool kept the ball and it was hard for us to get it back." For Christs sake, what does he expect ? Isn't that part of the game, to stop your opposition from getting the ball. What did he expect, that they would keep giving it to us ? Our tactics Oscar are to stop teams dictating how they want to play the game. Maybe playing a higher line, keeping pressure on their back four so that their keeper cant keep feeding the ball to the full backs and forcing him to kick it long just might improve our chances of gaining possession a little more often ? I wrote last week that we had total control of our own destiny and that fortune would favor the brave (bold). Was it really asking so much to be brave for the first 45 minutes on Monday, to take the game to the opposition, to strike first and really get them rocking. We had nothing to lose and everything to gain yet we went out with a whimper. How many shots on target in those first 45 mins ? Now we have conceded our position to Reading and the blame lies with the strategist who defines how the team plays.[/p][/quote]Well said. It's a pity that Jeff Lomer and Aldrington Halt etc cannot evaluate evidence like you or MTBS. Their confidence in Garcia to take us forward is simply amazing considering what he has done so far, i.e. nothing! Clearly they are satisfied with under achievement. His poor tactics and team selection have us scraping for a Play Off place when we should have wrapped this up long ago with the squad we have, yet they think we should be grateful and have had a wonderful season! It would suggest they are newcomers to watching football or have poor judgement. Being an Albion supporter doesn't have to mean you leave your brain behind when you watch them. (Freeloaders would say you have to have your own brain not someone else's. Where is he? I miss his amusing comments although I suspect he is posting under one or two non de plumes. Never understand why some on here get so angry with him and his like. At least the trolls provide much needed humour.) Claude Back
  • Score: 6

10:36am Wed 23 Apr 14

Brighton Bill says...

namgo49 wrote:
No it's amazing Burnley got auto promo with the playing budget they have. We should and could have done much better with the budget facilities crowds etc we have.
Well said, it's facts, Taxi for Oscar.
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: No it's amazing Burnley got auto promo with the playing budget they have. We should and could have done much better with the budget facilities crowds etc we have.[/p][/quote]Well said, it's facts, Taxi for Oscar. Brighton Bill
  • Score: -7

10:40am Wed 23 Apr 14

Seagulls over Thanet says...

Oscar says it is difficult to beat weaker teams that come to defend. He is probably right but it is the job of the manager to set up a winning team. Games against Millwall, Sheffield Wednesday, Barnsley, Huddersfield and Blackpool spring to mind. Was it really so hard that we could only scrape four points at home. Come on Oscar - STAND OR FALL. These are the games to get the lad's fired up, take a few risks, and play to win.
Oscar says it is difficult to beat weaker teams that come to defend. He is probably right but it is the job of the manager to set up a winning team. Games against Millwall, Sheffield Wednesday, Barnsley, Huddersfield and Blackpool spring to mind. Was it really so hard that we could only scrape four points at home. Come on Oscar - STAND OR FALL. These are the games to get the lad's fired up, take a few risks, and play to win. Seagulls over Thanet
  • Score: 15

10:51am Wed 23 Apr 14

Neville says...

Listened to the match at Reading and they started off fast and got the 2 early goals,if only the Albion could do the same.According to their Manager Middlesbrough never competed and of course Adkins in buoyant mood.
I believe the Doncaster match will be the harder for Reading as Doncaster really need to win,unfortunately I can see Reading winning both matches especially as Burnley now have absolutely nothing to play for. All managers say they owe it to the teams fighting at the top and bottom to put out their best team but it is ultimately the players on the pitch that decide whether to play their best or plan their summer hols.
The chance was lost at Blackpool and our home record in a great stadium and largest crowds has if I am honest been woeful.
Last season there were matches that excited but unfortunately for me there havent been any scintillating performances at home,Wigan was the best performance after we went 2-0 down but of course we lost.
The team just do not (Leicester apart) start off well and its always the same system and slow play from the back which is boring a lot of fans to death. The way Ulloa has been used this season ,in my opinion has been awful, totally isolated with his back to goal surrounded by two larger centre backs,he is great in the air but we don't make enough quality crosses and no one perhaps apart from Stephens looks up before crossing. KLL,SM and WB are all guilty,cannot fathom why some of these obvious failings are not corrected by OG and his team.
The management team are also guilty of always talking the opposition up,forget the opposition play the game that suits Albion at home and for goodness sake lets have some decent crossing with pace and shoot if given half a chance.
Finally watched the Dobbie spectacular goal and half hearted tackles from Andrews and then Greer allowed him through. Andrews needs to be taken out of the midfield as he slows the game down too much.
Ready for all the thumbs down but really have been so disappointed with our performances at home and the inability,until very recently to change anything.
Listened to the match at Reading and they started off fast and got the 2 early goals,if only the Albion could do the same.According to their Manager Middlesbrough never competed and of course Adkins in buoyant mood. I believe the Doncaster match will be the harder for Reading as Doncaster really need to win,unfortunately I can see Reading winning both matches especially as Burnley now have absolutely nothing to play for. All managers say they owe it to the teams fighting at the top and bottom to put out their best team but it is ultimately the players on the pitch that decide whether to play their best or plan their summer hols. The chance was lost at Blackpool and our home record in a great stadium and largest crowds has if I am honest been woeful. Last season there were matches that excited but unfortunately for me there havent been any scintillating performances at home,Wigan was the best performance after we went 2-0 down but of course we lost. The team just do not (Leicester apart) start off well and its always the same system and slow play from the back which is boring a lot of fans to death. The way Ulloa has been used this season ,in my opinion has been awful, totally isolated with his back to goal surrounded by two larger centre backs,he is great in the air but we don't make enough quality crosses and no one perhaps apart from Stephens looks up before crossing. KLL,SM and WB are all guilty,cannot fathom why some of these obvious failings are not corrected by OG and his team. The management team are also guilty of always talking the opposition up,forget the opposition play the game that suits Albion at home and for goodness sake lets have some decent crossing with pace and shoot if given half a chance. Finally watched the Dobbie spectacular goal and half hearted tackles from Andrews and then Greer allowed him through. Andrews needs to be taken out of the midfield as he slows the game down too much. Ready for all the thumbs down but really have been so disappointed with our performances at home and the inability,until very recently to change anything. Neville
  • Score: 27

10:58am Wed 23 Apr 14

Piglet1 says...

SecondReserve wrote:
Obviously the right things for Garcia to say but perhaps he'd like to explain to all of us who were there on Monday exactly why there was a total lack of both fight and passion from his team when we went into the match in prime position to make the play-offs and the opposition were absolutely mediocre.
There was passion to win but it was stifling and they tried too hard rather than relax and play our passing game. We tended to lump it too much as we became more desperate. It is not a lack of effort or passion, it is tension that causes the misplaced passing etc,etc...
Many supporters make this mistake and should remember that tension from the crowd does not help but wholehearted support does.
I appreciate not everyone wants to sing but at least clap when we do something well or rattle your jewellery in the 1901 area!
[quote][p][bold]SecondReserve[/bold] wrote: Obviously the right things for Garcia to say but perhaps he'd like to explain to all of us who were there on Monday exactly why there was a total lack of both fight and passion from his team when we went into the match in prime position to make the play-offs and the opposition were absolutely mediocre.[/p][/quote]There was passion to win but it was stifling and they tried too hard rather than relax and play our passing game. We tended to lump it too much as we became more desperate. It is not a lack of effort or passion, it is tension that causes the misplaced passing etc,etc... Many supporters make this mistake and should remember that tension from the crowd does not help but wholehearted support does. I appreciate not everyone wants to sing but at least clap when we do something well or rattle your jewellery in the 1901 area! Piglet1
  • Score: 0

11:14am Wed 23 Apr 14

Aldrington Halt says...

Claude Back wrote:
fratsomrover wrote:
I apologise if this repeating something I posted earlier, but when Oscar says
"“For me it’s amazing to be fighting for this place at this stage"
“It’s amazing to be here and have a chance to get into the play-offs"

Yes it is amazing because we should be in a position where a top 6 place is already guaranteed. It's amazing that we haven't secured that place already. Just look at the number of home points dropped against inferior opposition
On the Blackpool match Oscar said
"We wanted to start brightly but we couldn't because Blackpool kept the ball and it was hard for us to get it back."

For Christs sake, what does he expect ? Isn't that part of the game, to stop your opposition from getting the ball. What did he expect, that they would keep giving it to us ?

Our tactics Oscar are to stop teams dictating how they want to play the game. Maybe playing a higher line, keeping pressure on their back four so that their keeper cant keep feeding the ball to the full backs and forcing him to kick it long just might improve our chances of gaining possession a little more often ?
I wrote last week that we had total control of our own destiny and that fortune would favor the brave (bold).
Was it really asking so much to be brave for the first 45 minutes on Monday, to take the game to the opposition, to strike first and really get them rocking. We had nothing to lose and everything to gain yet we went out with a whimper. How many shots on target in those first 45 mins ?
Now we have conceded our position to Reading and the blame lies with the strategist who defines how the team plays.
Well said.
It's a pity that Jeff Lomer and Aldrington Halt etc cannot evaluate evidence like you or MTBS. Their confidence in Garcia to take us forward is simply amazing considering what he has done so far, i.e. nothing! Clearly they are satisfied with under achievement.
His poor tactics and team selection have us scraping for a Play Off place when we should have wrapped this up long ago with the squad we have, yet they think we should be grateful and have had a wonderful season! It would suggest they are newcomers to watching football or have poor judgement.
Being an Albion supporter doesn't have to mean you leave your brain behind when you watch them.
(Freeloaders would say you have to have your own brain not someone else's. Where is he? I miss his amusing comments although I suspect he is posting under one or two non de plumes. Never understand why some on here get so angry with him and his like. At least the trolls provide much needed humour.)
Yawn...
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: I apologise if this repeating something I posted earlier, but when Oscar says "“For me it’s amazing to be fighting for this place at this stage" “It’s amazing to be here and have a chance to get into the play-offs" Yes it is amazing because we should be in a position where a top 6 place is already guaranteed. It's amazing that we haven't secured that place already. Just look at the number of home points dropped against inferior opposition On the Blackpool match Oscar said "We wanted to start brightly but we couldn't because Blackpool kept the ball and it was hard for us to get it back." For Christs sake, what does he expect ? Isn't that part of the game, to stop your opposition from getting the ball. What did he expect, that they would keep giving it to us ? Our tactics Oscar are to stop teams dictating how they want to play the game. Maybe playing a higher line, keeping pressure on their back four so that their keeper cant keep feeding the ball to the full backs and forcing him to kick it long just might improve our chances of gaining possession a little more often ? I wrote last week that we had total control of our own destiny and that fortune would favor the brave (bold). Was it really asking so much to be brave for the first 45 minutes on Monday, to take the game to the opposition, to strike first and really get them rocking. We had nothing to lose and everything to gain yet we went out with a whimper. How many shots on target in those first 45 mins ? Now we have conceded our position to Reading and the blame lies with the strategist who defines how the team plays.[/p][/quote]Well said. It's a pity that Jeff Lomer and Aldrington Halt etc cannot evaluate evidence like you or MTBS. Their confidence in Garcia to take us forward is simply amazing considering what he has done so far, i.e. nothing! Clearly they are satisfied with under achievement. His poor tactics and team selection have us scraping for a Play Off place when we should have wrapped this up long ago with the squad we have, yet they think we should be grateful and have had a wonderful season! It would suggest they are newcomers to watching football or have poor judgement. Being an Albion supporter doesn't have to mean you leave your brain behind when you watch them. (Freeloaders would say you have to have your own brain not someone else's. Where is he? I miss his amusing comments although I suspect he is posting under one or two non de plumes. Never understand why some on here get so angry with him and his like. At least the trolls provide much needed humour.)[/p][/quote]Yawn... Aldrington Halt
  • Score: -8

11:31am Wed 23 Apr 14

SecondReserve says...

Piglet1, I agree with you about supporting the team during matches. However I totally disagree with your other comments. Blackpool were mediocre at best, a team in pole position for the play-offs should have beaten them out of sight. We were abysmal and our attacking players did absolutely nothing, certain individuals looked disinterested and most certainly did not show either passion or real fight. 3 shots on target (2 of them by Stephens) against such a poor team says it all.
Piglet1, I agree with you about supporting the team during matches. However I totally disagree with your other comments. Blackpool were mediocre at best, a team in pole position for the play-offs should have beaten them out of sight. We were abysmal and our attacking players did absolutely nothing, certain individuals looked disinterested and most certainly did not show either passion or real fight. 3 shots on target (2 of them by Stephens) against such a poor team says it all. SecondReserve
  • Score: 6

11:35am Wed 23 Apr 14

Saul G P Tong says...

Not as amazed as I am Oscar!!
Not as amazed as I am Oscar!! Saul G P Tong
  • Score: 6

11:45am Wed 23 Apr 14

gordongull says...

From an article recounting the David Moyes saga:
''For a manager defined by his discipline, Ferguson was also a natural gambler. Moyes sticks where Fergie twists.''
Oscar is firmly in the Moyes camp where taking a risk is concerned.
From an article recounting the David Moyes saga: ''For a manager defined by his discipline, Ferguson was also a natural gambler. Moyes sticks where Fergie twists.'' Oscar is firmly in the Moyes camp where taking a risk is concerned. gordongull
  • Score: 5

11:49am Wed 23 Apr 14

JeffLomer says...

Claude Back wrote:
fratsomrover wrote:
I apologise if this repeating something I posted earlier, but when Oscar says
"“For me it’s amazing to be fighting for this place at this stage"
“It’s amazing to be here and have a chance to get into the play-offs"

Yes it is amazing because we should be in a position where a top 6 place is already guaranteed. It's amazing that we haven't secured that place already. Just look at the number of home points dropped against inferior opposition
On the Blackpool match Oscar said
"We wanted to start brightly but we couldn't because Blackpool kept the ball and it was hard for us to get it back."

For Christs sake, what does he expect ? Isn't that part of the game, to stop your opposition from getting the ball. What did he expect, that they would keep giving it to us ?

Our tactics Oscar are to stop teams dictating how they want to play the game. Maybe playing a higher line, keeping pressure on their back four so that their keeper cant keep feeding the ball to the full backs and forcing him to kick it long just might improve our chances of gaining possession a little more often ?
I wrote last week that we had total control of our own destiny and that fortune would favor the brave (bold).
Was it really asking so much to be brave for the first 45 minutes on Monday, to take the game to the opposition, to strike first and really get them rocking. We had nothing to lose and everything to gain yet we went out with a whimper. How many shots on target in those first 45 mins ?
Now we have conceded our position to Reading and the blame lies with the strategist who defines how the team plays.
Well said.
It's a pity that Jeff Lomer and Aldrington Halt etc cannot evaluate evidence like you or MTBS. Their confidence in Garcia to take us forward is simply amazing considering what he has done so far, i.e. nothing! Clearly they are satisfied with under achievement.
His poor tactics and team selection have us scraping for a Play Off place when we should have wrapped this up long ago with the squad we have, yet they think we should be grateful and have had a wonderful season! It would suggest they are newcomers to watching football or have poor judgement.
Being an Albion supporter doesn't have to mean you leave your brain behind when you watch them.
(Freeloaders would say you have to have your own brain not someone else's. Where is he? I miss his amusing comments although I suspect he is posting under one or two non de plumes. Never understand why some on here get so angry with him and his like. At least the trolls provide much needed humour.)
Claude

I thought this was a football forum for Brighton fans, do you honestly think everyone has got the same opinion on here that's why it's a forum, if you don't like my posts I put on here scroll past them you don't have to read them, yer I do believe we have the right guy in Oscar taking us forward, if you don't that's your opinion, to say Oscars under achieved in his first season is very harsh in my opinion, if we all had same opinion on here we could call it the CLAUDE BACK FORUM!!!!
Beleive I'm no troll on here just a normal Albion fan joining in with other fans!!!!
Going to my 21st away game at forest so think I have a right to voice my opinion!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: I apologise if this repeating something I posted earlier, but when Oscar says "“For me it’s amazing to be fighting for this place at this stage" “It’s amazing to be here and have a chance to get into the play-offs" Yes it is amazing because we should be in a position where a top 6 place is already guaranteed. It's amazing that we haven't secured that place already. Just look at the number of home points dropped against inferior opposition On the Blackpool match Oscar said "We wanted to start brightly but we couldn't because Blackpool kept the ball and it was hard for us to get it back." For Christs sake, what does he expect ? Isn't that part of the game, to stop your opposition from getting the ball. What did he expect, that they would keep giving it to us ? Our tactics Oscar are to stop teams dictating how they want to play the game. Maybe playing a higher line, keeping pressure on their back four so that their keeper cant keep feeding the ball to the full backs and forcing him to kick it long just might improve our chances of gaining possession a little more often ? I wrote last week that we had total control of our own destiny and that fortune would favor the brave (bold). Was it really asking so much to be brave for the first 45 minutes on Monday, to take the game to the opposition, to strike first and really get them rocking. We had nothing to lose and everything to gain yet we went out with a whimper. How many shots on target in those first 45 mins ? Now we have conceded our position to Reading and the blame lies with the strategist who defines how the team plays.[/p][/quote]Well said. It's a pity that Jeff Lomer and Aldrington Halt etc cannot evaluate evidence like you or MTBS. Their confidence in Garcia to take us forward is simply amazing considering what he has done so far, i.e. nothing! Clearly they are satisfied with under achievement. His poor tactics and team selection have us scraping for a Play Off place when we should have wrapped this up long ago with the squad we have, yet they think we should be grateful and have had a wonderful season! It would suggest they are newcomers to watching football or have poor judgement. Being an Albion supporter doesn't have to mean you leave your brain behind when you watch them. (Freeloaders would say you have to have your own brain not someone else's. Where is he? I miss his amusing comments although I suspect he is posting under one or two non de plumes. Never understand why some on here get so angry with him and his like. At least the trolls provide much needed humour.)[/p][/quote]Claude I thought this was a football forum for Brighton fans, do you honestly think everyone has got the same opinion on here that's why it's a forum, if you don't like my posts I put on here scroll past them you don't have to read them, yer I do believe we have the right guy in Oscar taking us forward, if you don't that's your opinion, to say Oscars under achieved in his first season is very harsh in my opinion, if we all had same opinion on here we could call it the CLAUDE BACK FORUM!!!! Beleive I'm no troll on here just a normal Albion fan joining in with other fans!!!! Going to my 21st away game at forest so think I have a right to voice my opinion!!!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 7

12:02pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Norfolk and way says...

Selling Barnes to Burnley clearly showed the lack of ambition at Albion and we have been completely shown up by Burnley, they are in the prem on a small budget and about to reap the rewards. We the fans are outraged and demand answers, some people at this club need to take a long hard look at themselves. Oscar included, why wasn't he fighting at the start of the season?
Selling Barnes to Burnley clearly showed the lack of ambition at Albion and we have been completely shown up by Burnley, they are in the prem on a small budget and about to reap the rewards. We the fans are outraged and demand answers, some people at this club need to take a long hard look at themselves. Oscar included, why wasn't he fighting at the start of the season? Norfolk and way
  • Score: -1

12:42pm Wed 23 Apr 14

dave from bexill says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
fratsomrover wrote:
I apologise if this repeating something I posted earlier, but when Oscar says
"“For me it’s amazing to be fighting for this place at this stage"
“It’s amazing to be here and have a chance to get into the play-offs"

Yes it is amazing because we should be in a position where a top 6 place is already guaranteed. It's amazing that we haven't secured that place already. Just look at the number of home points dropped against inferior opposition
On the Blackpool match Oscar said
"We wanted to start brightly but we couldn't because Blackpool kept the ball and it was hard for us to get it back."

For Christs sake, what does he expect ? Isn't that part of the game, to stop your opposition from getting the ball. What did he expect, that they would keep giving it to us ?

Our tactics Oscar are to stop teams dictating how they want to play the game. Maybe playing a higher line, keeping pressure on their back four so that their keeper cant keep feeding the ball to the full backs and forcing him to kick it long just might improve our chances of gaining possession a little more often ?
I wrote last week that we had total control of our own destiny and that fortune would favor the brave (bold).
Was it really asking so much to be brave for the first 45 minutes on Monday, to take the game to the opposition, to strike first and really get them rocking. We had nothing to lose and everything to gain yet we went out with a whimper. How many shots on target in those first 45 mins ?
Now we have conceded our position to Reading and the blame lies with the strategist who defines how the team plays.
Well said.
It's a pity that Jeff Lomer and Aldrington Halt etc cannot evaluate evidence like you or MTBS. Their confidence in Garcia to take us forward is simply amazing considering what he has done so far, i.e. nothing! Clearly they are satisfied with under achievement.
His poor tactics and team selection have us scraping for a Play Off place when we should have wrapped this up long ago with the squad we have, yet they think we should be grateful and have had a wonderful season! It would suggest they are newcomers to watching football or have poor judgement.
Being an Albion supporter doesn't have to mean you leave your brain behind when you watch them.
(Freeloaders would say you have to have your own brain not someone else's. Where is he? I miss his amusing comments although I suspect he is posting under one or two non de plumes. Never understand why some on here get so angry with him and his like. At least the trolls provide much needed humour.)
Claude

I thought this was a football forum for Brighton fans, do you honestly think everyone has got the same opinion on here that's why it's a forum, if you don't like my posts I put on here scroll past them you don't have to read them, yer I do believe we have the right guy in Oscar taking us forward, if you don't that's your opinion, to say Oscars under achieved in his first season is very harsh in my opinion, if we all had same opinion on here we could call it the CLAUDE BACK FORUM!!!!
Beleive I'm no troll on here just a normal Albion fan joining in with other fans!!!!
Going to my 21st away game at forest so think I have a right to voice my opinion!!!!
Jeff, I generally enjoy Claude's often 'pithy' sense of humour, but remember that currently the government is trying to dismantle the legal professions pay structure and he may be feeling a little anxious if his legal aid payments are being held up.
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: I apologise if this repeating something I posted earlier, but when Oscar says "“For me it’s amazing to be fighting for this place at this stage" “It’s amazing to be here and have a chance to get into the play-offs" Yes it is amazing because we should be in a position where a top 6 place is already guaranteed. It's amazing that we haven't secured that place already. Just look at the number of home points dropped against inferior opposition On the Blackpool match Oscar said "We wanted to start brightly but we couldn't because Blackpool kept the ball and it was hard for us to get it back." For Christs sake, what does he expect ? Isn't that part of the game, to stop your opposition from getting the ball. What did he expect, that they would keep giving it to us ? Our tactics Oscar are to stop teams dictating how they want to play the game. Maybe playing a higher line, keeping pressure on their back four so that their keeper cant keep feeding the ball to the full backs and forcing him to kick it long just might improve our chances of gaining possession a little more often ? I wrote last week that we had total control of our own destiny and that fortune would favor the brave (bold). Was it really asking so much to be brave for the first 45 minutes on Monday, to take the game to the opposition, to strike first and really get them rocking. We had nothing to lose and everything to gain yet we went out with a whimper. How many shots on target in those first 45 mins ? Now we have conceded our position to Reading and the blame lies with the strategist who defines how the team plays.[/p][/quote]Well said. It's a pity that Jeff Lomer and Aldrington Halt etc cannot evaluate evidence like you or MTBS. Their confidence in Garcia to take us forward is simply amazing considering what he has done so far, i.e. nothing! Clearly they are satisfied with under achievement. His poor tactics and team selection have us scraping for a Play Off place when we should have wrapped this up long ago with the squad we have, yet they think we should be grateful and have had a wonderful season! It would suggest they are newcomers to watching football or have poor judgement. Being an Albion supporter doesn't have to mean you leave your brain behind when you watch them. (Freeloaders would say you have to have your own brain not someone else's. Where is he? I miss his amusing comments although I suspect he is posting under one or two non de plumes. Never understand why some on here get so angry with him and his like. At least the trolls provide much needed humour.)[/p][/quote]Claude I thought this was a football forum for Brighton fans, do you honestly think everyone has got the same opinion on here that's why it's a forum, if you don't like my posts I put on here scroll past them you don't have to read them, yer I do believe we have the right guy in Oscar taking us forward, if you don't that's your opinion, to say Oscars under achieved in his first season is very harsh in my opinion, if we all had same opinion on here we could call it the CLAUDE BACK FORUM!!!! Beleive I'm no troll on here just a normal Albion fan joining in with other fans!!!! Going to my 21st away game at forest so think I have a right to voice my opinion!!!![/p][/quote]Jeff, I generally enjoy Claude's often 'pithy' sense of humour, but remember that currently the government is trying to dismantle the legal professions pay structure and he may be feeling a little anxious if his legal aid payments are being held up. dave from bexill
  • Score: 2

12:43pm Wed 23 Apr 14

dave from bexill says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
fratsomrover wrote:
I apologise if this repeating something I posted earlier, but when Oscar says
"“For me it’s amazing to be fighting for this place at this stage"
“It’s amazing to be here and have a chance to get into the play-offs"

Yes it is amazing because we should be in a position where a top 6 place is already guaranteed. It's amazing that we haven't secured that place already. Just look at the number of home points dropped against inferior opposition
On the Blackpool match Oscar said
"We wanted to start brightly but we couldn't because Blackpool kept the ball and it was hard for us to get it back."

For Christs sake, what does he expect ? Isn't that part of the game, to stop your opposition from getting the ball. What did he expect, that they would keep giving it to us ?

Our tactics Oscar are to stop teams dictating how they want to play the game. Maybe playing a higher line, keeping pressure on their back four so that their keeper cant keep feeding the ball to the full backs and forcing him to kick it long just might improve our chances of gaining possession a little more often ?
I wrote last week that we had total control of our own destiny and that fortune would favor the brave (bold).
Was it really asking so much to be brave for the first 45 minutes on Monday, to take the game to the opposition, to strike first and really get them rocking. We had nothing to lose and everything to gain yet we went out with a whimper. How many shots on target in those first 45 mins ?
Now we have conceded our position to Reading and the blame lies with the strategist who defines how the team plays.
Well said.
It's a pity that Jeff Lomer and Aldrington Halt etc cannot evaluate evidence like you or MTBS. Their confidence in Garcia to take us forward is simply amazing considering what he has done so far, i.e. nothing! Clearly they are satisfied with under achievement.
His poor tactics and team selection have us scraping for a Play Off place when we should have wrapped this up long ago with the squad we have, yet they think we should be grateful and have had a wonderful season! It would suggest they are newcomers to watching football or have poor judgement.
Being an Albion supporter doesn't have to mean you leave your brain behind when you watch them.
(Freeloaders would say you have to have your own brain not someone else's. Where is he? I miss his amusing comments although I suspect he is posting under one or two non de plumes. Never understand why some on here get so angry with him and his like. At least the trolls provide much needed humour.)
Claude

I thought this was a football forum for Brighton fans, do you honestly think everyone has got the same opinion on here that's why it's a forum, if you don't like my posts I put on here scroll past them you don't have to read them, yer I do believe we have the right guy in Oscar taking us forward, if you don't that's your opinion, to say Oscars under achieved in his first season is very harsh in my opinion, if we all had same opinion on here we could call it the CLAUDE BACK FORUM!!!!
Beleive I'm no troll on here just a normal Albion fan joining in with other fans!!!!
Going to my 21st away game at forest so think I have a right to voice my opinion!!!!
Jeff, I generally enjoy Claude's often 'pithy' sense of humour, but remember that currently the government is trying to dismantle the legal professions pay structure and he may be feeling a little anxious if his legal aid payments are being held up.
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: I apologise if this repeating something I posted earlier, but when Oscar says "“For me it’s amazing to be fighting for this place at this stage" “It’s amazing to be here and have a chance to get into the play-offs" Yes it is amazing because we should be in a position where a top 6 place is already guaranteed. It's amazing that we haven't secured that place already. Just look at the number of home points dropped against inferior opposition On the Blackpool match Oscar said "We wanted to start brightly but we couldn't because Blackpool kept the ball and it was hard for us to get it back." For Christs sake, what does he expect ? Isn't that part of the game, to stop your opposition from getting the ball. What did he expect, that they would keep giving it to us ? Our tactics Oscar are to stop teams dictating how they want to play the game. Maybe playing a higher line, keeping pressure on their back four so that their keeper cant keep feeding the ball to the full backs and forcing him to kick it long just might improve our chances of gaining possession a little more often ? I wrote last week that we had total control of our own destiny and that fortune would favor the brave (bold). Was it really asking so much to be brave for the first 45 minutes on Monday, to take the game to the opposition, to strike first and really get them rocking. We had nothing to lose and everything to gain yet we went out with a whimper. How many shots on target in those first 45 mins ? Now we have conceded our position to Reading and the blame lies with the strategist who defines how the team plays.[/p][/quote]Well said. It's a pity that Jeff Lomer and Aldrington Halt etc cannot evaluate evidence like you or MTBS. Their confidence in Garcia to take us forward is simply amazing considering what he has done so far, i.e. nothing! Clearly they are satisfied with under achievement. His poor tactics and team selection have us scraping for a Play Off place when we should have wrapped this up long ago with the squad we have, yet they think we should be grateful and have had a wonderful season! It would suggest they are newcomers to watching football or have poor judgement. Being an Albion supporter doesn't have to mean you leave your brain behind when you watch them. (Freeloaders would say you have to have your own brain not someone else's. Where is he? I miss his amusing comments although I suspect he is posting under one or two non de plumes. Never understand why some on here get so angry with him and his like. At least the trolls provide much needed humour.)[/p][/quote]Claude I thought this was a football forum for Brighton fans, do you honestly think everyone has got the same opinion on here that's why it's a forum, if you don't like my posts I put on here scroll past them you don't have to read them, yer I do believe we have the right guy in Oscar taking us forward, if you don't that's your opinion, to say Oscars under achieved in his first season is very harsh in my opinion, if we all had same opinion on here we could call it the CLAUDE BACK FORUM!!!! Beleive I'm no troll on here just a normal Albion fan joining in with other fans!!!! Going to my 21st away game at forest so think I have a right to voice my opinion!!!![/p][/quote]Jeff, I generally enjoy Claude's often 'pithy' sense of humour, but remember that currently the government is trying to dismantle the legal professions pay structure and he may be feeling a little anxious if his legal aid payments are being held up. dave from bexill
  • Score: 1

1:01pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit says...

russellsnr2 wrote:
From above 'A point behind Reading, as a result of the Royals’ 2-0 home win against mid-table Middlesbrough'
Sorry but wrong! we are a point behind Reading because we did not beat Blackpool at home and dropped to many points when at home.
We do not have the team/players good enough available throughout the season, unlucky? maybe! but for next season the club need to give Oscar money to freshen up our team.
A week ago would have said we had the easiest run in out of all the teams vying for that 6th place but now we have not only to beat Yeovil on Friday but also go to Forrest who must still fancy there chances.
Exactly. Forget the start of the season, since Christmas we haven't been 'unlucky' - we just haven't been good enough. 'The league table doesn't lie' may well be a cliche but it's true nonetheless.
[quote][p][bold]russellsnr2[/bold] wrote: From above 'A point behind Reading, as a result of the Royals’ 2-0 home win against mid-table Middlesbrough' Sorry but wrong! we are a point behind Reading because we did not beat Blackpool at home and dropped to many points when at home. We do not have the team/players good enough available throughout the season, unlucky? maybe! but for next season the club need to give Oscar money to freshen up our team. A week ago would have said we had the easiest run in out of all the teams vying for that 6th place but now we have not only to beat Yeovil on Friday but also go to Forrest who must still fancy there chances.[/p][/quote]Exactly. Forget the start of the season, since Christmas we haven't been 'unlucky' - we just haven't been good enough. 'The league table doesn't lie' may well be a cliche but it's true nonetheless. Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit
  • Score: 7

1:10pm Wed 23 Apr 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Morning Guys,

This is the way I see yes we have dropped out the playoff position but if we beat Yeovil Friday night we put the pressure right back on Reading for there trip to Doncaster, like I've said in previous posts any team can beat any team in this league, I no it's out off hands all we can do is concentrate on beating Yeovil then who knows what will happen to Reading.

If we slip up Friday then it wasn't to be for playoffs this year for us, no good coming on here moaning about it's not been about the last four games that's decided our season, if were good enough Friday night and we get some help from else were then great if not I believe we've had a great season under Oscar in charge, believe me we have the right guy taking our great club forward!!
Up the Albion!!!!
Brilliant comments Jeff.No wonder you got a score of 32! Could not agree more.
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Morning Guys, This is the way I see yes we have dropped out the playoff position but if we beat Yeovil Friday night we put the pressure right back on Reading for there trip to Doncaster, like I've said in previous posts any team can beat any team in this league, I no it's out off hands all we can do is concentrate on beating Yeovil then who knows what will happen to Reading. If we slip up Friday then it wasn't to be for playoffs this year for us, no good coming on here moaning about it's not been about the last four games that's decided our season, if were good enough Friday night and we get some help from else were then great if not I believe we've had a great season under Oscar in charge, believe me we have the right guy taking our great club forward!! Up the Albion!!!![/p][/quote]Brilliant comments Jeff.No wonder you got a score of 32! Could not agree more. SeagullOverSelsey
  • Score: 4

1:12pm Wed 23 Apr 14

the taffster says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Morning Guys,

This is the way I see yes we have dropped out the playoff position but if we beat Yeovil Friday night we put the pressure right back on Reading for there trip to Doncaster, like I've said in previous posts any team can beat any team in this league, I no it's out off hands all we can do is concentrate on beating Yeovil then who knows what will happen to Reading.

If we slip up Friday then it wasn't to be for playoffs this year for us, no good coming on here moaning about it's not been about the last four games that's decided our season, if were good enough Friday night and we get some help from else were then great if not I believe we've had a great season under Oscar in charge, believe me we have the right guy taking our great club forward!!
Up the Albion!!!!
this is nonsense....on paper we have a squad capable of automatic promotion,not just the play offs......if we hadn't played a negative formation all season we would be top 2.....Oscar has failed if we don't get to the play offs at least in my opinion...gus would have got us up...Michael laudrup for next season....I think Oscar wont stay anyway,,,so it works out well for all concerned...
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Morning Guys, This is the way I see yes we have dropped out the playoff position but if we beat Yeovil Friday night we put the pressure right back on Reading for there trip to Doncaster, like I've said in previous posts any team can beat any team in this league, I no it's out off hands all we can do is concentrate on beating Yeovil then who knows what will happen to Reading. If we slip up Friday then it wasn't to be for playoffs this year for us, no good coming on here moaning about it's not been about the last four games that's decided our season, if were good enough Friday night and we get some help from else were then great if not I believe we've had a great season under Oscar in charge, believe me we have the right guy taking our great club forward!! Up the Albion!!!![/p][/quote]this is nonsense....on paper we have a squad capable of automatic promotion,not just the play offs......if we hadn't played a negative formation all season we would be top 2.....Oscar has failed if we don't get to the play offs at least in my opinion...gus would have got us up...Michael laudrup for next season....I think Oscar wont stay anyway,,,so it works out well for all concerned... the taffster
  • Score: 0

1:27pm Wed 23 Apr 14

ballantrrae says...

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
I didn't appreciate it at the time but I now know what an astute piece of business it was to tranfer Barnesy to Burnley. Those with foresight could see that he would in fact carry on helping with the Albion cause right through to the bitter end. As we struggle to scrape 3 points at the City ground on the 3rd of May young Ash will be slotting away the winner at the Mad Jerksky stadium, thus catapulting us into the play-offs. I have often been less than polite about the suits and those responsible for football policy - and even less about AB - but I stand corrected and apologise to all concerned. They move in mysterious ways, them men in suits. Of course our first hurdle is Yeovil - and given our current record against lowly clubs (and they don't get any more lowly than the Cider Boys) this is yet another squeaky bum occasion but I remain very positive with fingers firmly crossed. UTA and, of course, dear old Ash...!!!
Barnes might as you suggest help our cause in the same way that Borini on loan to Poyet's team from Liverpool has most certainly boosted Liverpool's chances of winning the Premier League.
Interesting Oscar's comments about the effective strength of the Albion's squad this season. With so many players out of contract or returning to their parent clubs this summer Oscar will have the opportunity to rebuild the squad as he wants over the next 10 to 12 weeks.
When he does so I hope he gets players signed or resigned sooner rather than later since one doesn't really want pre-season to start with only half a squad 'in place'. I also hope that players such as TK (doubtful it seems), MU and SW remain. With the defence getting older I would like to see some younger players brought in (like Liverpool did when Rogers became Manager) especially since Oscar appears to get excellent performances from youngsters witness Ince and March.
Top of my wish list would be a creative attacking midfielder and another proven striker to support Ulloa. Whoever is signed I think it is important that they have pace as that has been missing often this season. One other thought. Oscar needs to recruit players who do not have 'injury' track records. Too many key players have struggled with injuries like Buckley, Orlandi and the disappointing Agustein whom I trust is 'moved on'.
Here's hoping for a really positive result against Yeovil so we can put some pressure on Reading, Forest, Ipswich etc. UTA
[quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: I didn't appreciate it at the time but I now know what an astute piece of business it was to tranfer Barnesy to Burnley. Those with foresight could see that he would in fact carry on helping with the Albion cause right through to the bitter end. As we struggle to scrape 3 points at the City ground on the 3rd of May young Ash will be slotting away the winner at the Mad Jerksky stadium, thus catapulting us into the play-offs. I have often been less than polite about the suits and those responsible for football policy - and even less about AB - but I stand corrected and apologise to all concerned. They move in mysterious ways, them men in suits. Of course our first hurdle is Yeovil - and given our current record against lowly clubs (and they don't get any more lowly than the Cider Boys) this is yet another squeaky bum occasion but I remain very positive with fingers firmly crossed. UTA and, of course, dear old Ash...!!![/p][/quote]Barnes might as you suggest help our cause in the same way that Borini on loan to Poyet's team from Liverpool has most certainly boosted Liverpool's chances of winning the Premier League. Interesting Oscar's comments about the effective strength of the Albion's squad this season. With so many players out of contract or returning to their parent clubs this summer Oscar will have the opportunity to rebuild the squad as he wants over the next 10 to 12 weeks. When he does so I hope he gets players signed or resigned sooner rather than later since one doesn't really want pre-season to start with only half a squad 'in place'. I also hope that players such as TK (doubtful it seems), MU and SW remain. With the defence getting older I would like to see some younger players brought in (like Liverpool did when Rogers became Manager) especially since Oscar appears to get excellent performances from youngsters witness Ince and March. Top of my wish list would be a creative attacking midfielder and another proven striker to support Ulloa. Whoever is signed I think it is important that they have pace as that has been missing often this season. One other thought. Oscar needs to recruit players who do not have 'injury' track records. Too many key players have struggled with injuries like Buckley, Orlandi and the disappointing Agustein whom I trust is 'moved on'. Here's hoping for a really positive result against Yeovil so we can put some pressure on Reading, Forest, Ipswich etc. UTA ballantrrae
  • Score: 7

1:38pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Yogi says...

Just put pictures of GP and Charlie O up everywhere and ask the players if they want them back with Sunderland at the Amex next season!!!!!
Just put pictures of GP and Charlie O up everywhere and ask the players if they want them back with Sunderland at the Amex next season!!!!! Yogi
  • Score: 5

1:55pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Neville says...

Just read the match report in the Argus and it was very accurate in its assessment,another interesting point made was it prudent to show the Blackpool match from last season on the screen when the Blackpool players were warming up,talk about motivating the other side.Someone needs to be taken to task on this error.
Just read the match report in the Argus and it was very accurate in its assessment,another interesting point made was it prudent to show the Blackpool match from last season on the screen when the Blackpool players were warming up,talk about motivating the other side.Someone needs to be taken to task on this error. Neville
  • Score: 7

1:59pm Wed 23 Apr 14

pte says...

Strangely a draw on friday may be better than a win. A win and Bournemouth are out of it with no incentive to beat Forest. If they beat Forest then Forest have nothing to play for in the final match against us.

Four more points would probably rule out most of the contenders apart from Reading. But win or draw on friday we need Reading to drop points either way. Draw and we need Reading to lose a match. Win and we need Reading to draw a match

So stay calm if we are only drawing on friday because whatever will be, will be the future's not ours to see
Strangely a draw on friday may be better than a win. A win and Bournemouth are out of it with no incentive to beat Forest. If they beat Forest then Forest have nothing to play for in the final match against us. Four more points would probably rule out most of the contenders apart from Reading. But win or draw on friday we need Reading to drop points either way. Draw and we need Reading to lose a match. Win and we need Reading to draw a match So stay calm if we are only drawing on friday because whatever will be, will be the future's not ours to see pte
  • Score: 1

2:36pm Wed 23 Apr 14

scottishb;ue says...

Why does Ulloa never get subbed ? We needed pace up front and sorry but he doesn't have it and what happened to the 3 attacking midfielders switching positions like they did against charlton ? Not a happy bunny but given the injuries and turmoil we have had this season not a bad league position oh and for ai you guys who slated Ashley Barnes he can safely say he,s in the prem next season
Why does Ulloa never get subbed ? We needed pace up front and sorry but he doesn't have it and what happened to the 3 attacking midfielders switching positions like they did against charlton ? Not a happy bunny but given the injuries and turmoil we have had this season not a bad league position oh and for ai you guys who slated Ashley Barnes he can safely say he,s in the prem next season scottishb;ue
  • Score: 2

2:49pm Wed 23 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

Lots of speculation regarding which players will be looking for the exit door. Lots of opinions as to who should be given a new contract and much about who shouldn't.
Loads of opinions as to whether we have had a good year or a bad one, all things considered, and we have talk suggesting Garcia isn't happy and will want out along with, Garcia should be replaced.
Several comments about Jones and his role, and comments from Jones, Gracia and some players.
The one guy we have not heard from is Tony Bloom, and I doubt we will until all is done and dusted.

Bloom employed Garcia knowing exactly what he was getting, the good and the bad of his decision. He knew the limitations of Garcia when dealing in the transfer market, lack of knowledge. He knew Garcia's limitations re his knowledge of our opponents. He also knew that Garcia would have a less than desirable pre-season preparation period. Knowing all this he still gave him the job and told the fans that a play-off place was the target.

Whilst Bloom, like the fans of which he is one, will be dissapointed if we don't quite make the play-offs, he will surely be pleased with the fact that his appointee has maintained a respectful position in the table for the entire season, given the limitations of Garcia from day one, and the horrendous injury list.

If we don't make the target stated by Bloom, and did anyone really expect him to set the target lower, the level of confidence Bloom has for Garcia will manifest it's self in the summer transfer market. When the season is done and Bloom speaks, I expect him to be full of praise for Garcia, even if some of the fans are less than satisfied with him.
I think Bloom will take the view that Garcia has made some tactical errors this year, but he will accept that Garcia was finding his feet in the english game, and that mistakes were inevitable given his known limitations.

Bloom is the man, it is his hand that went into his pocket and pulled out his money that brought us to where we are today, the guy has made very few mistakes, if any at all. I odn't think Bloom is in the, 'instant results,' game, he thinks ahead. He brought in Poyet and Poyet moved us forward, we now have Garcia, and I am sure that Bloom thinks he will move us further forward, but not over night, and certainly not in his first season in charge.

If Bloom backs Garcia, and I am positive he will, the calls for Garcia to be replaced will call into question the confidence level those that make those calls have in Bloom. If Bloom, in his heart of hearts, considers Garcia's performance so far to be what he (Bloom) had hoped for, he will back him in the summer dealings, don't fortget, Bloom, under the FFP rules, can deposit a further five million in the transfer kitty, Garcia could have quite a war chest to work with, time will tell.
Lots of speculation regarding which players will be looking for the exit door. Lots of opinions as to who should be given a new contract and much about who shouldn't. Loads of opinions as to whether we have had a good year or a bad one, all things considered, and we have talk suggesting Garcia isn't happy and will want out along with, Garcia should be replaced. Several comments about Jones and his role, and comments from Jones, Gracia and some players. The one guy we have not heard from is Tony Bloom, and I doubt we will until all is done and dusted. Bloom employed Garcia knowing exactly what he was getting, the good and the bad of his decision. He knew the limitations of Garcia when dealing in the transfer market, lack of knowledge. He knew Garcia's limitations re his knowledge of our opponents. He also knew that Garcia would have a less than desirable pre-season preparation period. Knowing all this he still gave him the job and told the fans that a play-off place was the target. Whilst Bloom, like the fans of which he is one, will be dissapointed if we don't quite make the play-offs, he will surely be pleased with the fact that his appointee has maintained a respectful position in the table for the entire season, given the limitations of Garcia from day one, and the horrendous injury list. If we don't make the target stated by Bloom, and did anyone really expect him to set the target lower, the level of confidence Bloom has for Garcia will manifest it's self in the summer transfer market. When the season is done and Bloom speaks, I expect him to be full of praise for Garcia, even if some of the fans are less than satisfied with him. I think Bloom will take the view that Garcia has made some tactical errors this year, but he will accept that Garcia was finding his feet in the english game, and that mistakes were inevitable given his known limitations. Bloom is the man, it is his hand that went into his pocket and pulled out his money that brought us to where we are today, the guy has made very few mistakes, if any at all. I odn't think Bloom is in the, 'instant results,' game, he thinks ahead. He brought in Poyet and Poyet moved us forward, we now have Garcia, and I am sure that Bloom thinks he will move us further forward, but not over night, and certainly not in his first season in charge. If Bloom backs Garcia, and I am positive he will, the calls for Garcia to be replaced will call into question the confidence level those that make those calls have in Bloom. If Bloom, in his heart of hearts, considers Garcia's performance so far to be what he (Bloom) had hoped for, he will back him in the summer dealings, don't fortget, Bloom, under the FFP rules, can deposit a further five million in the transfer kitty, Garcia could have quite a war chest to work with, time will tell. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 6

3:11pm Wed 23 Apr 14

albionfan64 says...

namgo49 wrote:
No it's amazing Burnley got auto promo with the playing budget they have. We should and could have done much better with the budget facilities crowds etc we have.
Agreed. Oscar has been let down by poor finishing this season. To boss the games we have and had little to show for it is annoying, to say the least.

We could and should be comfortable in a play-off spot, or better. So the jury is out. Has Oscar had a good or bad season, regardless of the outcome?

I think he needs a chance to do it with his own choice of players next term. Football is mad these days, so who knows how long a manger will last. Mind you David Moyes has made 99% of the country happy by bringing Man Utd down a few pegs : ) So things are levelling out in the top division, with lots of clubs in the mix. Hopefully we will be there soon. UTA
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: No it's amazing Burnley got auto promo with the playing budget they have. We should and could have done much better with the budget facilities crowds etc we have.[/p][/quote]Agreed. Oscar has been let down by poor finishing this season. To boss the games we have and had little to show for it is annoying, to say the least. We could and should be comfortable in a play-off spot, or better. So the jury is out. Has Oscar had a good or bad season, regardless of the outcome? I think he needs a chance to do it with his own choice of players next term. Football is mad these days, so who knows how long a manger will last. Mind you David Moyes has made 99% of the country happy by bringing Man Utd down a few pegs : ) So things are levelling out in the top division, with lots of clubs in the mix. Hopefully we will be there soon. UTA albionfan64
  • Score: 3

3:12pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Brighton Bill says...

CMS in for Ulloa on.Friday (I hope)
CMS in for Ulloa on.Friday (I hope) Brighton Bill
  • Score: 0

3:20pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Norfolk and way says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Lots of speculation regarding which players will be looking for the exit door. Lots of opinions as to who should be given a new contract and much about who shouldn't.
Loads of opinions as to whether we have had a good year or a bad one, all things considered, and we have talk suggesting Garcia isn't happy and will want out along with, Garcia should be replaced.
Several comments about Jones and his role, and comments from Jones, Gracia and some players.
The one guy we have not heard from is Tony Bloom, and I doubt we will until all is done and dusted.

Bloom employed Garcia knowing exactly what he was getting, the good and the bad of his decision. He knew the limitations of Garcia when dealing in the transfer market, lack of knowledge. He knew Garcia's limitations re his knowledge of our opponents. He also knew that Garcia would have a less than desirable pre-season preparation period. Knowing all this he still gave him the job and told the fans that a play-off place was the target.

Whilst Bloom, like the fans of which he is one, will be dissapointed if we don't quite make the play-offs, he will surely be pleased with the fact that his appointee has maintained a respectful position in the table for the entire season, given the limitations of Garcia from day one, and the horrendous injury list.

If we don't make the target stated by Bloom, and did anyone really expect him to set the target lower, the level of confidence Bloom has for Garcia will manifest it's self in the summer transfer market. When the season is done and Bloom speaks, I expect him to be full of praise for Garcia, even if some of the fans are less than satisfied with him.
I think Bloom will take the view that Garcia has made some tactical errors this year, but he will accept that Garcia was finding his feet in the english game, and that mistakes were inevitable given his known limitations.

Bloom is the man, it is his hand that went into his pocket and pulled out his money that brought us to where we are today, the guy has made very few mistakes, if any at all. I odn't think Bloom is in the, 'instant results,' game, he thinks ahead. He brought in Poyet and Poyet moved us forward, we now have Garcia, and I am sure that Bloom thinks he will move us further forward, but not over night, and certainly not in his first season in charge.

If Bloom backs Garcia, and I am positive he will, the calls for Garcia to be replaced will call into question the confidence level those that make those calls have in Bloom. If Bloom, in his heart of hearts, considers Garcia's performance so far to be what he (Bloom) had hoped for, he will back him in the summer dealings, don't fortget, Bloom, under the FFP rules, can deposit a further five million in the transfer kitty, Garcia could have quite a war chest to work with, time will tell.
Yes Bloom is to blame. He built that stadium to draw us in and collect our money, and put a second rate team and manager in it. He needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat this summer or there may be an angry mob to deal with.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Lots of speculation regarding which players will be looking for the exit door. Lots of opinions as to who should be given a new contract and much about who shouldn't. Loads of opinions as to whether we have had a good year or a bad one, all things considered, and we have talk suggesting Garcia isn't happy and will want out along with, Garcia should be replaced. Several comments about Jones and his role, and comments from Jones, Gracia and some players. The one guy we have not heard from is Tony Bloom, and I doubt we will until all is done and dusted. Bloom employed Garcia knowing exactly what he was getting, the good and the bad of his decision. He knew the limitations of Garcia when dealing in the transfer market, lack of knowledge. He knew Garcia's limitations re his knowledge of our opponents. He also knew that Garcia would have a less than desirable pre-season preparation period. Knowing all this he still gave him the job and told the fans that a play-off place was the target. Whilst Bloom, like the fans of which he is one, will be dissapointed if we don't quite make the play-offs, he will surely be pleased with the fact that his appointee has maintained a respectful position in the table for the entire season, given the limitations of Garcia from day one, and the horrendous injury list. If we don't make the target stated by Bloom, and did anyone really expect him to set the target lower, the level of confidence Bloom has for Garcia will manifest it's self in the summer transfer market. When the season is done and Bloom speaks, I expect him to be full of praise for Garcia, even if some of the fans are less than satisfied with him. I think Bloom will take the view that Garcia has made some tactical errors this year, but he will accept that Garcia was finding his feet in the english game, and that mistakes were inevitable given his known limitations. Bloom is the man, it is his hand that went into his pocket and pulled out his money that brought us to where we are today, the guy has made very few mistakes, if any at all. I odn't think Bloom is in the, 'instant results,' game, he thinks ahead. He brought in Poyet and Poyet moved us forward, we now have Garcia, and I am sure that Bloom thinks he will move us further forward, but not over night, and certainly not in his first season in charge. If Bloom backs Garcia, and I am positive he will, the calls for Garcia to be replaced will call into question the confidence level those that make those calls have in Bloom. If Bloom, in his heart of hearts, considers Garcia's performance so far to be what he (Bloom) had hoped for, he will back him in the summer dealings, don't fortget, Bloom, under the FFP rules, can deposit a further five million in the transfer kitty, Garcia could have quite a war chest to work with, time will tell.[/p][/quote]Yes Bloom is to blame. He built that stadium to draw us in and collect our money, and put a second rate team and manager in it. He needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat this summer or there may be an angry mob to deal with. Norfolk and way
  • Score: -7

3:27pm Wed 23 Apr 14

pte says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Lots of speculation regarding which players will be looking for the exit door. Lots of opinions as to who should be given a new contract and much about who shouldn't.
Loads of opinions as to whether we have had a good year or a bad one, all things considered, and we have talk suggesting Garcia isn't happy and will want out along with, Garcia should be replaced.
Several comments about Jones and his role, and comments from Jones, Gracia and some players.
The one guy we have not heard from is Tony Bloom, and I doubt we will until all is done and dusted.

Bloom employed Garcia knowing exactly what he was getting, the good and the bad of his decision. He knew the limitations of Garcia when dealing in the transfer market, lack of knowledge. He knew Garcia's limitations re his knowledge of our opponents. He also knew that Garcia would have a less than desirable pre-season preparation period. Knowing all this he still gave him the job and told the fans that a play-off place was the target.

Whilst Bloom, like the fans of which he is one, will be dissapointed if we don't quite make the play-offs, he will surely be pleased with the fact that his appointee has maintained a respectful position in the table for the entire season, given the limitations of Garcia from day one, and the horrendous injury list.

If we don't make the target stated by Bloom, and did anyone really expect him to set the target lower, the level of confidence Bloom has for Garcia will manifest it's self in the summer transfer market. When the season is done and Bloom speaks, I expect him to be full of praise for Garcia, even if some of the fans are less than satisfied with him.
I think Bloom will take the view that Garcia has made some tactical errors this year, but he will accept that Garcia was finding his feet in the english game, and that mistakes were inevitable given his known limitations.

Bloom is the man, it is his hand that went into his pocket and pulled out his money that brought us to where we are today, the guy has made very few mistakes, if any at all. I odn't think Bloom is in the, 'instant results,' game, he thinks ahead. He brought in Poyet and Poyet moved us forward, we now have Garcia, and I am sure that Bloom thinks he will move us further forward, but not over night, and certainly not in his first season in charge.

If Bloom backs Garcia, and I am positive he will, the calls for Garcia to be replaced will call into question the confidence level those that make those calls have in Bloom. If Bloom, in his heart of hearts, considers Garcia's performance so far to be what he (Bloom) had hoped for, he will back him in the summer dealings, don't fortget, Bloom, under the FFP rules, can deposit a further five million in the transfer kitty, Garcia could have quite a war chest to work with, time will tell.
Yes Bloom loves Garcia and Garcia loves Bloom. Bloom's going to do this and Garcia's going to do that.

Garcia probably won't even be here next season so all your long pontifications have been a waste
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Lots of speculation regarding which players will be looking for the exit door. Lots of opinions as to who should be given a new contract and much about who shouldn't. Loads of opinions as to whether we have had a good year or a bad one, all things considered, and we have talk suggesting Garcia isn't happy and will want out along with, Garcia should be replaced. Several comments about Jones and his role, and comments from Jones, Gracia and some players. The one guy we have not heard from is Tony Bloom, and I doubt we will until all is done and dusted. Bloom employed Garcia knowing exactly what he was getting, the good and the bad of his decision. He knew the limitations of Garcia when dealing in the transfer market, lack of knowledge. He knew Garcia's limitations re his knowledge of our opponents. He also knew that Garcia would have a less than desirable pre-season preparation period. Knowing all this he still gave him the job and told the fans that a play-off place was the target. Whilst Bloom, like the fans of which he is one, will be dissapointed if we don't quite make the play-offs, he will surely be pleased with the fact that his appointee has maintained a respectful position in the table for the entire season, given the limitations of Garcia from day one, and the horrendous injury list. If we don't make the target stated by Bloom, and did anyone really expect him to set the target lower, the level of confidence Bloom has for Garcia will manifest it's self in the summer transfer market. When the season is done and Bloom speaks, I expect him to be full of praise for Garcia, even if some of the fans are less than satisfied with him. I think Bloom will take the view that Garcia has made some tactical errors this year, but he will accept that Garcia was finding his feet in the english game, and that mistakes were inevitable given his known limitations. Bloom is the man, it is his hand that went into his pocket and pulled out his money that brought us to where we are today, the guy has made very few mistakes, if any at all. I odn't think Bloom is in the, 'instant results,' game, he thinks ahead. He brought in Poyet and Poyet moved us forward, we now have Garcia, and I am sure that Bloom thinks he will move us further forward, but not over night, and certainly not in his first season in charge. If Bloom backs Garcia, and I am positive he will, the calls for Garcia to be replaced will call into question the confidence level those that make those calls have in Bloom. If Bloom, in his heart of hearts, considers Garcia's performance so far to be what he (Bloom) had hoped for, he will back him in the summer dealings, don't fortget, Bloom, under the FFP rules, can deposit a further five million in the transfer kitty, Garcia could have quite a war chest to work with, time will tell.[/p][/quote]Yes Bloom loves Garcia and Garcia loves Bloom. Bloom's going to do this and Garcia's going to do that. Garcia probably won't even be here next season so all your long pontifications have been a waste pte
  • Score: -7

3:29pm Wed 23 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Lots of speculation regarding which players will be looking for the exit door. Lots of opinions as to who should be given a new contract and much about who shouldn't.
Loads of opinions as to whether we have had a good year or a bad one, all things considered, and we have talk suggesting Garcia isn't happy and will want out along with, Garcia should be replaced.
Several comments about Jones and his role, and comments from Jones, Gracia and some players.
The one guy we have not heard from is Tony Bloom, and I doubt we will until all is done and dusted.

Bloom employed Garcia knowing exactly what he was getting, the good and the bad of his decision. He knew the limitations of Garcia when dealing in the transfer market, lack of knowledge. He knew Garcia's limitations re his knowledge of our opponents. He also knew that Garcia would have a less than desirable pre-season preparation period. Knowing all this he still gave him the job and told the fans that a play-off place was the target.

Whilst Bloom, like the fans of which he is one, will be dissapointed if we don't quite make the play-offs, he will surely be pleased with the fact that his appointee has maintained a respectful position in the table for the entire season, given the limitations of Garcia from day one, and the horrendous injury list.

If we don't make the target stated by Bloom, and did anyone really expect him to set the target lower, the level of confidence Bloom has for Garcia will manifest it's self in the summer transfer market. When the season is done and Bloom speaks, I expect him to be full of praise for Garcia, even if some of the fans are less than satisfied with him.
I think Bloom will take the view that Garcia has made some tactical errors this year, but he will accept that Garcia was finding his feet in the english game, and that mistakes were inevitable given his known limitations.

Bloom is the man, it is his hand that went into his pocket and pulled out his money that brought us to where we are today, the guy has made very few mistakes, if any at all. I odn't think Bloom is in the, 'instant results,' game, he thinks ahead. He brought in Poyet and Poyet moved us forward, we now have Garcia, and I am sure that Bloom thinks he will move us further forward, but not over night, and certainly not in his first season in charge.

If Bloom backs Garcia, and I am positive he will, the calls for Garcia to be replaced will call into question the confidence level those that make those calls have in Bloom. If Bloom, in his heart of hearts, considers Garcia's performance so far to be what he (Bloom) had hoped for, he will back him in the summer dealings, don't fortget, Bloom, under the FFP rules, can deposit a further five million in the transfer kitty, Garcia could have quite a war chest to work with, time will tell.
Man united knew more about Moyes than brighton ever knew about OG before we gave him a job,
Where I can't see things as being right is the formation and goals scored for?
No part of the team ever gets interviewed and asked " do we score enough goals" I wonder if we are scoring around 1 goal a game that's the reason we fail to beat sides who defend with there lives? Teams should be scared of coming here, bit like when teams went to united .. If you defend we will score, if you attack we will score, sorry but it's all to easy for opposition to take the wind out of our sails .. We need to be scoring 75 goals a season to really be in with a shout of promotion.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Lots of speculation regarding which players will be looking for the exit door. Lots of opinions as to who should be given a new contract and much about who shouldn't. Loads of opinions as to whether we have had a good year or a bad one, all things considered, and we have talk suggesting Garcia isn't happy and will want out along with, Garcia should be replaced. Several comments about Jones and his role, and comments from Jones, Gracia and some players. The one guy we have not heard from is Tony Bloom, and I doubt we will until all is done and dusted. Bloom employed Garcia knowing exactly what he was getting, the good and the bad of his decision. He knew the limitations of Garcia when dealing in the transfer market, lack of knowledge. He knew Garcia's limitations re his knowledge of our opponents. He also knew that Garcia would have a less than desirable pre-season preparation period. Knowing all this he still gave him the job and told the fans that a play-off place was the target. Whilst Bloom, like the fans of which he is one, will be dissapointed if we don't quite make the play-offs, he will surely be pleased with the fact that his appointee has maintained a respectful position in the table for the entire season, given the limitations of Garcia from day one, and the horrendous injury list. If we don't make the target stated by Bloom, and did anyone really expect him to set the target lower, the level of confidence Bloom has for Garcia will manifest it's self in the summer transfer market. When the season is done and Bloom speaks, I expect him to be full of praise for Garcia, even if some of the fans are less than satisfied with him. I think Bloom will take the view that Garcia has made some tactical errors this year, but he will accept that Garcia was finding his feet in the english game, and that mistakes were inevitable given his known limitations. Bloom is the man, it is his hand that went into his pocket and pulled out his money that brought us to where we are today, the guy has made very few mistakes, if any at all. I odn't think Bloom is in the, 'instant results,' game, he thinks ahead. He brought in Poyet and Poyet moved us forward, we now have Garcia, and I am sure that Bloom thinks he will move us further forward, but not over night, and certainly not in his first season in charge. If Bloom backs Garcia, and I am positive he will, the calls for Garcia to be replaced will call into question the confidence level those that make those calls have in Bloom. If Bloom, in his heart of hearts, considers Garcia's performance so far to be what he (Bloom) had hoped for, he will back him in the summer dealings, don't fortget, Bloom, under the FFP rules, can deposit a further five million in the transfer kitty, Garcia could have quite a war chest to work with, time will tell.[/p][/quote]Man united knew more about Moyes than brighton ever knew about OG before we gave him a job, Where I can't see things as being right is the formation and goals scored for? No part of the team ever gets interviewed and asked " do we score enough goals" I wonder if we are scoring around 1 goal a game that's the reason we fail to beat sides who defend with there lives? Teams should be scared of coming here, bit like when teams went to united .. If you defend we will score, if you attack we will score, sorry but it's all to easy for opposition to take the wind out of our sails .. We need to be scoring 75 goals a season to really be in with a shout of promotion. mark by the sea
  • Score: 4

3:41pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Free money says...

namgo49 wrote:
No it's amazing Burnley got auto promo with the playing budget they have. We should and could have done much better with the budget facilities crowds etc we have.
100% correct.You could even say the same about BMTH.Lets see what this yes man can do without TK & Ulloa next season.
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: No it's amazing Burnley got auto promo with the playing budget they have. We should and could have done much better with the budget facilities crowds etc we have.[/p][/quote]100% correct.You could even say the same about BMTH.Lets see what this yes man can do without TK & Ulloa next season. Free money
  • Score: -2

3:43pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Free money says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Lots of speculation regarding which players will be looking for the exit door. Lots of opinions as to who should be given a new contract and much about who shouldn't.
Loads of opinions as to whether we have had a good year or a bad one, all things considered, and we have talk suggesting Garcia isn't happy and will want out along with, Garcia should be replaced.
Several comments about Jones and his role, and comments from Jones, Gracia and some players.
The one guy we have not heard from is Tony Bloom, and I doubt we will until all is done and dusted.

Bloom employed Garcia knowing exactly what he was getting, the good and the bad of his decision. He knew the limitations of Garcia when dealing in the transfer market, lack of knowledge. He knew Garcia's limitations re his knowledge of our opponents. He also knew that Garcia would have a less than desirable pre-season preparation period. Knowing all this he still gave him the job and told the fans that a play-off place was the target.

Whilst Bloom, like the fans of which he is one, will be dissapointed if we don't quite make the play-offs, he will surely be pleased with the fact that his appointee has maintained a respectful position in the table for the entire season, given the limitations of Garcia from day one, and the horrendous injury list.

If we don't make the target stated by Bloom, and did anyone really expect him to set the target lower, the level of confidence Bloom has for Garcia will manifest it's self in the summer transfer market. When the season is done and Bloom speaks, I expect him to be full of praise for Garcia, even if some of the fans are less than satisfied with him.
I think Bloom will take the view that Garcia has made some tactical errors this year, but he will accept that Garcia was finding his feet in the english game, and that mistakes were inevitable given his known limitations.

Bloom is the man, it is his hand that went into his pocket and pulled out his money that brought us to where we are today, the guy has made very few mistakes, if any at all. I odn't think Bloom is in the, 'instant results,' game, he thinks ahead. He brought in Poyet and Poyet moved us forward, we now have Garcia, and I am sure that Bloom thinks he will move us further forward, but not over night, and certainly not in his first season in charge.

If Bloom backs Garcia, and I am positive he will, the calls for Garcia to be replaced will call into question the confidence level those that make those calls have in Bloom. If Bloom, in his heart of hearts, considers Garcia's performance so far to be what he (Bloom) had hoped for, he will back him in the summer dealings, don't fortget, Bloom, under the FFP rules, can deposit a further five million in the transfer kitty, Garcia could have quite a war chest to work with, time will tell.
Man united knew more about Moyes than brighton ever knew about OG before we gave him a job,
Where I can't see things as being right is the formation and goals scored for?
No part of the team ever gets interviewed and asked " do we score enough goals" I wonder if we are scoring around 1 goal a game that's the reason we fail to beat sides who defend with there lives? Teams should be scared of coming here, bit like when teams went to united .. If you defend we will score, if you attack we will score, sorry but it's all to easy for opposition to take the wind out of our sails .. We need to be scoring 75 goals a season to really be in with a shout of promotion.
Outstanding post yet again from a real fan with his own brain.Please don't stop posting MBTS.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Lots of speculation regarding which players will be looking for the exit door. Lots of opinions as to who should be given a new contract and much about who shouldn't. Loads of opinions as to whether we have had a good year or a bad one, all things considered, and we have talk suggesting Garcia isn't happy and will want out along with, Garcia should be replaced. Several comments about Jones and his role, and comments from Jones, Gracia and some players. The one guy we have not heard from is Tony Bloom, and I doubt we will until all is done and dusted. Bloom employed Garcia knowing exactly what he was getting, the good and the bad of his decision. He knew the limitations of Garcia when dealing in the transfer market, lack of knowledge. He knew Garcia's limitations re his knowledge of our opponents. He also knew that Garcia would have a less than desirable pre-season preparation period. Knowing all this he still gave him the job and told the fans that a play-off place was the target. Whilst Bloom, like the fans of which he is one, will be dissapointed if we don't quite make the play-offs, he will surely be pleased with the fact that his appointee has maintained a respectful position in the table for the entire season, given the limitations of Garcia from day one, and the horrendous injury list. If we don't make the target stated by Bloom, and did anyone really expect him to set the target lower, the level of confidence Bloom has for Garcia will manifest it's self in the summer transfer market. When the season is done and Bloom speaks, I expect him to be full of praise for Garcia, even if some of the fans are less than satisfied with him. I think Bloom will take the view that Garcia has made some tactical errors this year, but he will accept that Garcia was finding his feet in the english game, and that mistakes were inevitable given his known limitations. Bloom is the man, it is his hand that went into his pocket and pulled out his money that brought us to where we are today, the guy has made very few mistakes, if any at all. I odn't think Bloom is in the, 'instant results,' game, he thinks ahead. He brought in Poyet and Poyet moved us forward, we now have Garcia, and I am sure that Bloom thinks he will move us further forward, but not over night, and certainly not in his first season in charge. If Bloom backs Garcia, and I am positive he will, the calls for Garcia to be replaced will call into question the confidence level those that make those calls have in Bloom. If Bloom, in his heart of hearts, considers Garcia's performance so far to be what he (Bloom) had hoped for, he will back him in the summer dealings, don't fortget, Bloom, under the FFP rules, can deposit a further five million in the transfer kitty, Garcia could have quite a war chest to work with, time will tell.[/p][/quote]Man united knew more about Moyes than brighton ever knew about OG before we gave him a job, Where I can't see things as being right is the formation and goals scored for? No part of the team ever gets interviewed and asked " do we score enough goals" I wonder if we are scoring around 1 goal a game that's the reason we fail to beat sides who defend with there lives? Teams should be scared of coming here, bit like when teams went to united .. If you defend we will score, if you attack we will score, sorry but it's all to easy for opposition to take the wind out of our sails .. We need to be scoring 75 goals a season to really be in with a shout of promotion.[/p][/quote]Outstanding post yet again from a real fan with his own brain.Please don't stop posting MBTS. Free money
  • Score: -2

3:46pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Free money says...

Vegas OG has already told 2 national papers his not happy with the budget next season and may want away if the right offer comes in.
Vegas OG has already told 2 national papers his not happy with the budget next season and may want away if the right offer comes in. Free money
  • Score: -4

4:01pm Wed 23 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Lots of speculation regarding which players will be looking for the exit door. Lots of opinions as to who should be given a new contract and much about who shouldn't.
Loads of opinions as to whether we have had a good year or a bad one, all things considered, and we have talk suggesting Garcia isn't happy and will want out along with, Garcia should be replaced.
Several comments about Jones and his role, and comments from Jones, Gracia and some players.
The one guy we have not heard from is Tony Bloom, and I doubt we will until all is done and dusted.

Bloom employed Garcia knowing exactly what he was getting, the good and the bad of his decision. He knew the limitations of Garcia when dealing in the transfer market, lack of knowledge. He knew Garcia's limitations re his knowledge of our opponents. He also knew that Garcia would have a less than desirable pre-season preparation period. Knowing all this he still gave him the job and told the fans that a play-off place was the target.

Whilst Bloom, like the fans of which he is one, will be dissapointed if we don't quite make the play-offs, he will surely be pleased with the fact that his appointee has maintained a respectful position in the table for the entire season, given the limitations of Garcia from day one, and the horrendous injury list.

If we don't make the target stated by Bloom, and did anyone really expect him to set the target lower, the level of confidence Bloom has for Garcia will manifest it's self in the summer transfer market. When the season is done and Bloom speaks, I expect him to be full of praise for Garcia, even if some of the fans are less than satisfied with him.
I think Bloom will take the view that Garcia has made some tactical errors this year, but he will accept that Garcia was finding his feet in the english game, and that mistakes were inevitable given his known limitations.

Bloom is the man, it is his hand that went into his pocket and pulled out his money that brought us to where we are today, the guy has made very few mistakes, if any at all. I odn't think Bloom is in the, 'instant results,' game, he thinks ahead. He brought in Poyet and Poyet moved us forward, we now have Garcia, and I am sure that Bloom thinks he will move us further forward, but not over night, and certainly not in his first season in charge.

If Bloom backs Garcia, and I am positive he will, the calls for Garcia to be replaced will call into question the confidence level those that make those calls have in Bloom. If Bloom, in his heart of hearts, considers Garcia's performance so far to be what he (Bloom) had hoped for, he will back him in the summer dealings, don't fortget, Bloom, under the FFP rules, can deposit a further five million in the transfer kitty, Garcia could have quite a war chest to work with, time will tell.
Man united knew more about Moyes than brighton ever knew about OG before we gave him a job,
Where I can't see things as being right is the formation and goals scored for?
No part of the team ever gets interviewed and asked " do we score enough goals" I wonder if we are scoring around 1 goal a game that's the reason we fail to beat sides who defend with there lives? Teams should be scared of coming here, bit like when teams went to united .. If you defend we will score, if you attack we will score, sorry but it's all to easy for opposition to take the wind out of our sails .. We need to be scoring 75 goals a season to really be in with a shout of promotion.
But the gist of my comment is, 'is Bloom content for this season,' I think he is no matter what he stated at the start of the season, that was an owner saying what an owner needs to say.

If the eleven that go out to start the match create chances, and according to reports for the most part they have, then we have to look more closely at the players than we do the coach.
Poyet constantly bemoaned the fact that the players were not, 'clinical enough in front of goal,' Garcia has said the same as have the fans. I don't think Bloom will be down about Gracia but he will understand that Garcia needs better quaity players to work with.
Set pieces in the danger zone and corners see our guys from the back come up, how many times have they found the back of the net, player or manager problem?
It is not unusual for us to have a dozen or more attempts on goal, but only 2 or 3 on target, player or manager problem?
We have a player like Buckley who can wreak havoc when taking on defenses but spends too much time in the physio's room, player or manager problem, and you can add Orlandi to the same question.

The best hope for Brighton is for Bloom to recognize our shortfalls on the park and back Garcia to deal with them, and I think he will.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Lots of speculation regarding which players will be looking for the exit door. Lots of opinions as to who should be given a new contract and much about who shouldn't. Loads of opinions as to whether we have had a good year or a bad one, all things considered, and we have talk suggesting Garcia isn't happy and will want out along with, Garcia should be replaced. Several comments about Jones and his role, and comments from Jones, Gracia and some players. The one guy we have not heard from is Tony Bloom, and I doubt we will until all is done and dusted. Bloom employed Garcia knowing exactly what he was getting, the good and the bad of his decision. He knew the limitations of Garcia when dealing in the transfer market, lack of knowledge. He knew Garcia's limitations re his knowledge of our opponents. He also knew that Garcia would have a less than desirable pre-season preparation period. Knowing all this he still gave him the job and told the fans that a play-off place was the target. Whilst Bloom, like the fans of which he is one, will be dissapointed if we don't quite make the play-offs, he will surely be pleased with the fact that his appointee has maintained a respectful position in the table for the entire season, given the limitations of Garcia from day one, and the horrendous injury list. If we don't make the target stated by Bloom, and did anyone really expect him to set the target lower, the level of confidence Bloom has for Garcia will manifest it's self in the summer transfer market. When the season is done and Bloom speaks, I expect him to be full of praise for Garcia, even if some of the fans are less than satisfied with him. I think Bloom will take the view that Garcia has made some tactical errors this year, but he will accept that Garcia was finding his feet in the english game, and that mistakes were inevitable given his known limitations. Bloom is the man, it is his hand that went into his pocket and pulled out his money that brought us to where we are today, the guy has made very few mistakes, if any at all. I odn't think Bloom is in the, 'instant results,' game, he thinks ahead. He brought in Poyet and Poyet moved us forward, we now have Garcia, and I am sure that Bloom thinks he will move us further forward, but not over night, and certainly not in his first season in charge. If Bloom backs Garcia, and I am positive he will, the calls for Garcia to be replaced will call into question the confidence level those that make those calls have in Bloom. If Bloom, in his heart of hearts, considers Garcia's performance so far to be what he (Bloom) had hoped for, he will back him in the summer dealings, don't fortget, Bloom, under the FFP rules, can deposit a further five million in the transfer kitty, Garcia could have quite a war chest to work with, time will tell.[/p][/quote]Man united knew more about Moyes than brighton ever knew about OG before we gave him a job, Where I can't see things as being right is the formation and goals scored for? No part of the team ever gets interviewed and asked " do we score enough goals" I wonder if we are scoring around 1 goal a game that's the reason we fail to beat sides who defend with there lives? Teams should be scared of coming here, bit like when teams went to united .. If you defend we will score, if you attack we will score, sorry but it's all to easy for opposition to take the wind out of our sails .. We need to be scoring 75 goals a season to really be in with a shout of promotion.[/p][/quote]But the gist of my comment is, 'is Bloom content for this season,' I think he is no matter what he stated at the start of the season, that was an owner saying what an owner needs to say. If the eleven that go out to start the match create chances, and according to reports for the most part they have, then we have to look more closely at the players than we do the coach. Poyet constantly bemoaned the fact that the players were not, 'clinical enough in front of goal,' Garcia has said the same as have the fans. I don't think Bloom will be down about Gracia but he will understand that Garcia needs better quaity players to work with. Set pieces in the danger zone and corners see our guys from the back come up, how many times have they found the back of the net, player or manager problem? It is not unusual for us to have a dozen or more attempts on goal, but only 2 or 3 on target, player or manager problem? We have a player like Buckley who can wreak havoc when taking on defenses but spends too much time in the physio's room, player or manager problem, and you can add Orlandi to the same question. The best hope for Brighton is for Bloom to recognize our shortfalls on the park and back Garcia to deal with them, and I think he will. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 5

4:09pm Wed 23 Apr 14

gordongull says...

albionfan64 wrote:
namgo49 wrote:
No it's amazing Burnley got auto promo with the playing budget they have. We should and could have done much better with the budget facilities crowds etc we have.
Agreed. Oscar has been let down by poor finishing this season. To boss the games we have and had little to show for it is annoying, to say the least.

We could and should be comfortable in a play-off spot, or better. So the jury is out. Has Oscar had a good or bad season, regardless of the outcome?

I think he needs a chance to do it with his own choice of players next term. Football is mad these days, so who knows how long a manger will last. Mind you David Moyes has made 99% of the country happy by bringing Man Utd down a few pegs : ) So things are levelling out in the top division, with lots of clubs in the mix. Hopefully we will be there soon. UTA
There is a big difference between retraining possession of the ball, and bossing games.
How many matches have we 'bossed' in the final third?
[quote][p][bold]albionfan64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: No it's amazing Burnley got auto promo with the playing budget they have. We should and could have done much better with the budget facilities crowds etc we have.[/p][/quote]Agreed. Oscar has been let down by poor finishing this season. To boss the games we have and had little to show for it is annoying, to say the least. We could and should be comfortable in a play-off spot, or better. So the jury is out. Has Oscar had a good or bad season, regardless of the outcome? I think he needs a chance to do it with his own choice of players next term. Football is mad these days, so who knows how long a manger will last. Mind you David Moyes has made 99% of the country happy by bringing Man Utd down a few pegs : ) So things are levelling out in the top division, with lots of clubs in the mix. Hopefully we will be there soon. UTA[/p][/quote]There is a big difference between retraining possession of the ball, and bossing games. How many matches have we 'bossed' in the final third? gordongull
  • Score: 4

4:10pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Neville says...

Vegas
people and managers always refer to stats and for most games they will show that Brighton have about 65per cent possession,unfortuna
tely those stats don,t show that most of the possession is in our own half,which allows the opposition to regroup.Wehave no plan B same as with GP,poor final balls in the third,powder puff crosses or over hit corners and players generally afraid to shoot when given half a chance. We very rarely score from corners or free kicks,Ulooas strength is in the air but we just don,t provide enough.Wingers who don,t look up before crossing,all basic stuff and a good majority of fans can see this,I just find it so frustrating that the management don,t sort these basics out. There that's better got that off my chest again,still suffering from that inept performance against Blackpool.
Vegas people and managers always refer to stats and for most games they will show that Brighton have about 65per cent possession,unfortuna tely those stats don,t show that most of the possession is in our own half,which allows the opposition to regroup.Wehave no plan B same as with GP,poor final balls in the third,powder puff crosses or over hit corners and players generally afraid to shoot when given half a chance. We very rarely score from corners or free kicks,Ulooas strength is in the air but we just don,t provide enough.Wingers who don,t look up before crossing,all basic stuff and a good majority of fans can see this,I just find it so frustrating that the management don,t sort these basics out. There that's better got that off my chest again,still suffering from that inept performance against Blackpool. Neville
  • Score: 3

4:10pm Wed 23 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

Free money wrote:
Vegas OG has already told 2 national papers his not happy with the budget next season and may want away if the right offer comes in.
As I stated in my comment, Bloom will have to back him in the transfer market. Barber has made it clear that we will be FFP compliant this year, that fact means that Bloom is allowed to back the club with a further 5 million cash investment, if he has the money and a mind to do so.
[quote][p][bold]Free money[/bold] wrote: Vegas OG has already told 2 national papers his not happy with the budget next season and may want away if the right offer comes in.[/p][/quote]As I stated in my comment, Bloom will have to back him in the transfer market. Barber has made it clear that we will be FFP compliant this year, that fact means that Bloom is allowed to back the club with a further 5 million cash investment, if he has the money and a mind to do so. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

4:14pm Wed 23 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

Neville wrote:
Vegas
people and managers always refer to stats and for most games they will show that Brighton have about 65per cent possession,unfortuna

tely those stats don,t show that most of the possession is in our own half,which allows the opposition to regroup.Wehave no plan B same as with GP,poor final balls in the third,powder puff crosses or over hit corners and players generally afraid to shoot when given half a chance. We very rarely score from corners or free kicks,Ulooas strength is in the air but we just don,t provide enough.Wingers who don,t look up before crossing,all basic stuff and a good majority of fans can see this,I just find it so frustrating that the management don,t sort these basics out. There that's better got that off my chest again,still suffering from that inept performance against Blackpool.
I don't think anyone can really argue against what you have said, seems right, to fix the issues you have raised requires some new players, and my comment is about whether or not Bloom will back Garcia when the time comes ot get those players.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Vegas people and managers always refer to stats and for most games they will show that Brighton have about 65per cent possession,unfortuna tely those stats don,t show that most of the possession is in our own half,which allows the opposition to regroup.Wehave no plan B same as with GP,poor final balls in the third,powder puff crosses or over hit corners and players generally afraid to shoot when given half a chance. We very rarely score from corners or free kicks,Ulooas strength is in the air but we just don,t provide enough.Wingers who don,t look up before crossing,all basic stuff and a good majority of fans can see this,I just find it so frustrating that the management don,t sort these basics out. There that's better got that off my chest again,still suffering from that inept performance against Blackpool.[/p][/quote]I don't think anyone can really argue against what you have said, seems right, to fix the issues you have raised requires some new players, and my comment is about whether or not Bloom will back Garcia when the time comes ot get those players. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -1

4:23pm Wed 23 Apr 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

mark by the sea wrote:
A question to the guys talking about the mind doctor peters and his work at Liverpool, I think it was ex pat Arnie ? Do you think that we are getting the best from our players when some know they won't be kept on at the club?
Some may have there partners saying there kids are happy here, pressure from family to sort out there futures?
I suppose it's similar in someways to working for a firm knowing redundancy is coming to cut costs? No one really knows who is leaving, that in itself must cause stress to those involved? For me personally I would be looking for another job if that hung over me,
TK to Hull or Burnley is what I have been told by someone in the know,
I just wonder if TK really wants to leave and move his family?
Replacing him won't come cheap, the club need a core of " premiership ready" players..
I totally agree with you. That's why a guy like Dr Peters works with EVERYONE in the club - including the 'suits', as some call them.

It's also why Roy Hodgson came out publicly and stated that he was taking him (Dr Peters) with the whole party to Brazil. He explained that it was vital he worked with the whole group not only with individuals.

It is my belief that if someone like him was at our club he would be advising that players' futures be at least discussed with them IF it was causing stress with the player or his family. We all have different life experiences and what causes one to be stressed (as it seems obviously the case with TK), doesn't bother another like Stephen Ward. So that is the advantage of people trained in this stuff.

I think TK has really been affected and there doesn't seem to be the same level of closeness among the boys as there used to be. There was a time when the whole team celebrated with the goal scorer (apart from the goal keeper obviously!). That doesn't seem to be the case now.

Let's trust that they are all able to put aside any concerns and keep really focused on high tempo starts in these next 2 games - and the three after that!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: A question to the guys talking about the mind doctor peters and his work at Liverpool, I think it was ex pat Arnie ? Do you think that we are getting the best from our players when some know they won't be kept on at the club? Some may have there partners saying there kids are happy here, pressure from family to sort out there futures? I suppose it's similar in someways to working for a firm knowing redundancy is coming to cut costs? No one really knows who is leaving, that in itself must cause stress to those involved? For me personally I would be looking for another job if that hung over me, TK to Hull or Burnley is what I have been told by someone in the know, I just wonder if TK really wants to leave and move his family? Replacing him won't come cheap, the club need a core of " premiership ready" players..[/p][/quote]I totally agree with you. That's why a guy like Dr Peters works with EVERYONE in the club - including the 'suits', as some call them. It's also why Roy Hodgson came out publicly and stated that he was taking him (Dr Peters) with the whole party to Brazil. He explained that it was vital he worked with the whole group not only with individuals. It is my belief that if someone like him was at our club he would be advising that players' futures be at least discussed with them IF it was causing stress with the player or his family. We all have different life experiences and what causes one to be stressed (as it seems obviously the case with TK), doesn't bother another like Stephen Ward. So that is the advantage of people trained in this stuff. I think TK has really been affected and there doesn't seem to be the same level of closeness among the boys as there used to be. There was a time when the whole team celebrated with the goal scorer (apart from the goal keeper obviously!). That doesn't seem to be the case now. Let's trust that they are all able to put aside any concerns and keep really focused on high tempo starts in these next 2 games - and the three after that!!!!!!! WisdomSpeaks
  • Score: 2

4:23pm Wed 23 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

Norfolk and way wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Lots of speculation regarding which players will be looking for the exit door. Lots of opinions as to who should be given a new contract and much about who shouldn't.
Loads of opinions as to whether we have had a good year or a bad one, all things considered, and we have talk suggesting Garcia isn't happy and will want out along with, Garcia should be replaced.
Several comments about Jones and his role, and comments from Jones, Gracia and some players.
The one guy we have not heard from is Tony Bloom, and I doubt we will until all is done and dusted.

Bloom employed Garcia knowing exactly what he was getting, the good and the bad of his decision. He knew the limitations of Garcia when dealing in the transfer market, lack of knowledge. He knew Garcia's limitations re his knowledge of our opponents. He also knew that Garcia would have a less than desirable pre-season preparation period. Knowing all this he still gave him the job and told the fans that a play-off place was the target.

Whilst Bloom, like the fans of which he is one, will be dissapointed if we don't quite make the play-offs, he will surely be pleased with the fact that his appointee has maintained a respectful position in the table for the entire season, given the limitations of Garcia from day one, and the horrendous injury list.

If we don't make the target stated by Bloom, and did anyone really expect him to set the target lower, the level of confidence Bloom has for Garcia will manifest it's self in the summer transfer market. When the season is done and Bloom speaks, I expect him to be full of praise for Garcia, even if some of the fans are less than satisfied with him.
I think Bloom will take the view that Garcia has made some tactical errors this year, but he will accept that Garcia was finding his feet in the english game, and that mistakes were inevitable given his known limitations.

Bloom is the man, it is his hand that went into his pocket and pulled out his money that brought us to where we are today, the guy has made very few mistakes, if any at all. I odn't think Bloom is in the, 'instant results,' game, he thinks ahead. He brought in Poyet and Poyet moved us forward, we now have Garcia, and I am sure that Bloom thinks he will move us further forward, but not over night, and certainly not in his first season in charge.

If Bloom backs Garcia, and I am positive he will, the calls for Garcia to be replaced will call into question the confidence level those that make those calls have in Bloom. If Bloom, in his heart of hearts, considers Garcia's performance so far to be what he (Bloom) had hoped for, he will back him in the summer dealings, don't fortget, Bloom, under the FFP rules, can deposit a further five million in the transfer kitty, Garcia could have quite a war chest to work with, time will tell.
Yes Bloom is to blame. He built that stadium to draw us in and collect our money, and put a second rate team and manager in it. He needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat this summer or there may be an angry mob to deal with.
surprised to see that you think Poyet was/is, a second rate manager, he did after all get the club promoted and got the team into the play-offs
[quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Lots of speculation regarding which players will be looking for the exit door. Lots of opinions as to who should be given a new contract and much about who shouldn't. Loads of opinions as to whether we have had a good year or a bad one, all things considered, and we have talk suggesting Garcia isn't happy and will want out along with, Garcia should be replaced. Several comments about Jones and his role, and comments from Jones, Gracia and some players. The one guy we have not heard from is Tony Bloom, and I doubt we will until all is done and dusted. Bloom employed Garcia knowing exactly what he was getting, the good and the bad of his decision. He knew the limitations of Garcia when dealing in the transfer market, lack of knowledge. He knew Garcia's limitations re his knowledge of our opponents. He also knew that Garcia would have a less than desirable pre-season preparation period. Knowing all this he still gave him the job and told the fans that a play-off place was the target. Whilst Bloom, like the fans of which he is one, will be dissapointed if we don't quite make the play-offs, he will surely be pleased with the fact that his appointee has maintained a respectful position in the table for the entire season, given the limitations of Garcia from day one, and the horrendous injury list. If we don't make the target stated by Bloom, and did anyone really expect him to set the target lower, the level of confidence Bloom has for Garcia will manifest it's self in the summer transfer market. When the season is done and Bloom speaks, I expect him to be full of praise for Garcia, even if some of the fans are less than satisfied with him. I think Bloom will take the view that Garcia has made some tactical errors this year, but he will accept that Garcia was finding his feet in the english game, and that mistakes were inevitable given his known limitations. Bloom is the man, it is his hand that went into his pocket and pulled out his money that brought us to where we are today, the guy has made very few mistakes, if any at all. I odn't think Bloom is in the, 'instant results,' game, he thinks ahead. He brought in Poyet and Poyet moved us forward, we now have Garcia, and I am sure that Bloom thinks he will move us further forward, but not over night, and certainly not in his first season in charge. If Bloom backs Garcia, and I am positive he will, the calls for Garcia to be replaced will call into question the confidence level those that make those calls have in Bloom. If Bloom, in his heart of hearts, considers Garcia's performance so far to be what he (Bloom) had hoped for, he will back him in the summer dealings, don't fortget, Bloom, under the FFP rules, can deposit a further five million in the transfer kitty, Garcia could have quite a war chest to work with, time will tell.[/p][/quote]Yes Bloom is to blame. He built that stadium to draw us in and collect our money, and put a second rate team and manager in it. He needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat this summer or there may be an angry mob to deal with.[/p][/quote]surprised to see that you think Poyet was/is, a second rate manager, he did after all get the club promoted and got the team into the play-offs VegasSeagull
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4:24pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Mancgulled says...

fratsomrover wrote:
I apologise if this repeating something I posted earlier, but when Oscar says
"“For me it’s amazing to be fighting for this place at this stage"
“It’s amazing to be here and have a chance to get into the play-offs"

Yes it is amazing because we should be in a position where a top 6 place is already guaranteed. It's amazing that we haven't secured that place already. Just look at the number of home points dropped against inferior opposition
On the Blackpool match Oscar said
"We wanted to start brightly but we couldn't because Blackpool kept the ball and it was hard for us to get it back."

For Christs sake, what does he expect ? Isn't that part of the game, to stop your opposition from getting the ball. What did he expect, that they would keep giving it to us ?

Our tactics Oscar are to stop teams dictating how they want to play the game. Maybe playing a higher line, keeping pressure on their back four so that their keeper cant keep feeding the ball to the full backs and forcing him to kick it long just might improve our chances of gaining possession a little more often ?
I wrote last week that we had total control of our own destiny and that fortune would favor the brave (bold).
Was it really asking so much to be brave for the first 45 minutes on Monday, to take the game to the opposition, to strike first and really get them rocking. We had nothing to lose and everything to gain yet we went out with a whimper. How many shots on target in those first 45 mins ?
Now we have conceded our position to Reading and the blame lies with the strategist who defines how the team plays.
Good one! That is what I was inferring about the upcoming Yeovil game - he has to come up with a alternate way to compete as effectively with the bottom six as he does with the top six. When I saw the lineup on Monday I thought - ahhh ... he also expects them to come forward and he's going to hit them on the break with the one up front and crowd the midfield but we were sitting there thinking to ourselves 'does this team realise its going down or not?' because they just didn't do that. Before the match began I though the was going to goo 4-4-2 or more likely 4-2-4 but he didn't - I was surprised because like you , with his Barcelona pedigree I thought he would play the high line and box them into their own half -- so be interesting to see what he does on Friday - just as important because when Barnesy does the business on Reading it will matter - Here's hoping!
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: I apologise if this repeating something I posted earlier, but when Oscar says "“For me it’s amazing to be fighting for this place at this stage" “It’s amazing to be here and have a chance to get into the play-offs" Yes it is amazing because we should be in a position where a top 6 place is already guaranteed. It's amazing that we haven't secured that place already. Just look at the number of home points dropped against inferior opposition On the Blackpool match Oscar said "We wanted to start brightly but we couldn't because Blackpool kept the ball and it was hard for us to get it back." For Christs sake, what does he expect ? Isn't that part of the game, to stop your opposition from getting the ball. What did he expect, that they would keep giving it to us ? Our tactics Oscar are to stop teams dictating how they want to play the game. Maybe playing a higher line, keeping pressure on their back four so that their keeper cant keep feeding the ball to the full backs and forcing him to kick it long just might improve our chances of gaining possession a little more often ? I wrote last week that we had total control of our own destiny and that fortune would favor the brave (bold). Was it really asking so much to be brave for the first 45 minutes on Monday, to take the game to the opposition, to strike first and really get them rocking. We had nothing to lose and everything to gain yet we went out with a whimper. How many shots on target in those first 45 mins ? Now we have conceded our position to Reading and the blame lies with the strategist who defines how the team plays.[/p][/quote]Good one! That is what I was inferring about the upcoming Yeovil game - he has to come up with a alternate way to compete as effectively with the bottom six as he does with the top six. When I saw the lineup on Monday I thought - ahhh ... he also expects them to come forward and he's going to hit them on the break with the one up front and crowd the midfield but we were sitting there thinking to ourselves 'does this team realise its going down or not?' because they just didn't do that. Before the match began I though the was going to goo 4-4-2 or more likely 4-2-4 but he didn't - I was surprised because like you , with his Barcelona pedigree I thought he would play the high line and box them into their own half -- so be interesting to see what he does on Friday - just as important because when Barnesy does the business on Reading it will matter - Here's hoping! Mancgulled
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4:30pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Neville says...

Vegas
PB has advised that the club do not want to be in a position to have to rely on TB money and you mention he can put in another 5m where do you get that view from,it will depend on our level of debt and FFP compliance. But so many clubs are now legally challenging the FFP rules,those with most to lose,I.e Leicester and QPR it is inevitable that the rules will be watered down and is it really right to have different sets of rules and standards for the PL?
Vegas PB has advised that the club do not want to be in a position to have to rely on TB money and you mention he can put in another 5m where do you get that view from,it will depend on our level of debt and FFP compliance. But so many clubs are now legally challenging the FFP rules,those with most to lose,I.e Leicester and QPR it is inevitable that the rules will be watered down and is it really right to have different sets of rules and standards for the PL? Neville
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4:39pm Wed 23 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

Neville wrote:
Vegas
PB has advised that the club do not want to be in a position to have to rely on TB money and you mention he can put in another 5m where do you get that view from,it will depend on our level of debt and FFP compliance. But so many clubs are now legally challenging the FFP rules,those with most to lose,I.e Leicester and QPR it is inevitable that the rules will be watered down and is it really right to have different sets of rules and standards for the PL?
Under the FFP rules owners are allowed to invest 5 million each year that they are compliant, Barber has said we will be compliant. You ask where I get that from, well it's written into the FFP rule book. We don't have to be making a profit, we just need to be compliant.
Yes it would be much better for us not to look to Bloom for more money, we need to make money in other ways, but, if Bloom backs Garcia with a chunk of money for transfers, I contest that that will show his faith in his chosen manager, even if we don't make the play-offs.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Vegas PB has advised that the club do not want to be in a position to have to rely on TB money and you mention he can put in another 5m where do you get that view from,it will depend on our level of debt and FFP compliance. But so many clubs are now legally challenging the FFP rules,those with most to lose,I.e Leicester and QPR it is inevitable that the rules will be watered down and is it really right to have different sets of rules and standards for the PL?[/p][/quote]Under the FFP rules owners are allowed to invest 5 million each year that they are compliant, Barber has said we will be compliant. You ask where I get that from, well it's written into the FFP rule book. We don't have to be making a profit, we just need to be compliant. Yes it would be much better for us not to look to Bloom for more money, we need to make money in other ways, but, if Bloom backs Garcia with a chunk of money for transfers, I contest that that will show his faith in his chosen manager, even if we don't make the play-offs. VegasSeagull
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4:53pm Wed 23 Apr 14

thebigun says...

If he thinks that its amazing to get the Albion where they are perhaps he should go and manage elsewhere,we are certainly as good as most of the teams and we beat the champions twice,NO OG its not amazing its the least I would of expected and if we had shown real passion and desire in every game and you picked the right team we would be safelt in the play offs long ago
Goddbye
If he thinks that its amazing to get the Albion where they are perhaps he should go and manage elsewhere,we are certainly as good as most of the teams and we beat the champions twice,NO OG its not amazing its the least I would of expected and if we had shown real passion and desire in every game and you picked the right team we would be safelt in the play offs long ago Goddbye thebigun
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4:54pm Wed 23 Apr 14

wolf miguel says...

Our three seasons in the championship have provided final totals of goals for & against 52-52 66pts. 69-43 75pts now with two matches left we have 51-39 66pts. Every season we are in the bottom 6 for scoring. So how much longer are we going to take to find a decent goal scoring formula? I noticed that a lot of Leicester goal come (not slow build up)) by Kaspers hoofs!!!

Is there not "live" sky on last day?
Our three seasons in the championship have provided final totals of goals for & against 52-52 66pts. 69-43 75pts now with two matches left we have 51-39 66pts. Every season we are in the bottom 6 for scoring. So how much longer are we going to take to find a decent goal scoring formula? I noticed that a lot of Leicester goal come (not slow build up)) by Kaspers hoofs!!! Is there not "live" sky on last day? wolf miguel
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5:03pm Wed 23 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Neville wrote:
Vegas
PB has advised that the club do not want to be in a position to have to rely on TB money and you mention he can put in another 5m where do you get that view from,it will depend on our level of debt and FFP compliance. But so many clubs are now legally challenging the FFP rules,those with most to lose,I.e Leicester and QPR it is inevitable that the rules will be watered down and is it really right to have different sets of rules and standards for the PL?
Under the FFP rules owners are allowed to invest 5 million each year that they are compliant, Barber has said we will be compliant. You ask where I get that from, well it's written into the FFP rule book. We don't have to be making a profit, we just need to be compliant.
Yes it would be much better for us not to look to Bloom for more money, we need to make money in other ways, but, if Bloom backs Garcia with a chunk of money for transfers, I contest that that will show his faith in his chosen manager, even if we don't make the play-offs.
I may have that 5 million figure wrong. Having just checked the Wiki article on the FFP rules, it states that Bloom would be allowed to invest 3 million, not 5. Somewhere in the back of my memory I am sure that I read that the figure was indeed 5 million, maybe there has been a change and that is what I saw, I just don't know. Either way, if we are compliant, Bloom can invest.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Vegas PB has advised that the club do not want to be in a position to have to rely on TB money and you mention he can put in another 5m where do you get that view from,it will depend on our level of debt and FFP compliance. But so many clubs are now legally challenging the FFP rules,those with most to lose,I.e Leicester and QPR it is inevitable that the rules will be watered down and is it really right to have different sets of rules and standards for the PL?[/p][/quote]Under the FFP rules owners are allowed to invest 5 million each year that they are compliant, Barber has said we will be compliant. You ask where I get that from, well it's written into the FFP rule book. We don't have to be making a profit, we just need to be compliant. Yes it would be much better for us not to look to Bloom for more money, we need to make money in other ways, but, if Bloom backs Garcia with a chunk of money for transfers, I contest that that will show his faith in his chosen manager, even if we don't make the play-offs.[/p][/quote]I may have that 5 million figure wrong. Having just checked the Wiki article on the FFP rules, it states that Bloom would be allowed to invest 3 million, not 5. Somewhere in the back of my memory I am sure that I read that the figure was indeed 5 million, maybe there has been a change and that is what I saw, I just don't know. Either way, if we are compliant, Bloom can invest. VegasSeagull
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5:18pm Wed 23 Apr 14

gordongull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Neville wrote:
Vegas
PB has advised that the club do not want to be in a position to have to rely on TB money and you mention he can put in another 5m where do you get that view from,it will depend on our level of debt and FFP compliance. But so many clubs are now legally challenging the FFP rules,those with most to lose,I.e Leicester and QPR it is inevitable that the rules will be watered down and is it really right to have different sets of rules and standards for the PL?
Under the FFP rules owners are allowed to invest 5 million each year that they are compliant, Barber has said we will be compliant. You ask where I get that from, well it's written into the FFP rule book. We don't have to be making a profit, we just need to be compliant.
Yes it would be much better for us not to look to Bloom for more money, we need to make money in other ways, but, if Bloom backs Garcia with a chunk of money for transfers, I contest that that will show his faith in his chosen manager, even if we don't make the play-offs.
My understanding is that if there are losses of £8m for this year, as expected, Mr Bloom will be required to inject equity of £5m to make the Club FFP compliant.
I don't see how that money can be used to repay debt AND buy new players.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Vegas PB has advised that the club do not want to be in a position to have to rely on TB money and you mention he can put in another 5m where do you get that view from,it will depend on our level of debt and FFP compliance. But so many clubs are now legally challenging the FFP rules,those with most to lose,I.e Leicester and QPR it is inevitable that the rules will be watered down and is it really right to have different sets of rules and standards for the PL?[/p][/quote]Under the FFP rules owners are allowed to invest 5 million each year that they are compliant, Barber has said we will be compliant. You ask where I get that from, well it's written into the FFP rule book. We don't have to be making a profit, we just need to be compliant. Yes it would be much better for us not to look to Bloom for more money, we need to make money in other ways, but, if Bloom backs Garcia with a chunk of money for transfers, I contest that that will show his faith in his chosen manager, even if we don't make the play-offs.[/p][/quote]My understanding is that if there are losses of £8m for this year, as expected, Mr Bloom will be required to inject equity of £5m to make the Club FFP compliant. I don't see how that money can be used to repay debt AND buy new players. gordongull
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5:21pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Neville says...

Gordon Gull yes that's my understanding as well.
Gordon Gull yes that's my understanding as well. Neville
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5:27pm Wed 23 Apr 14

ballantrrae says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Neville wrote:
Vegas
PB has advised that the club do not want to be in a position to have to rely on TB money and you mention he can put in another 5m where do you get that view from,it will depend on our level of debt and FFP compliance. But so many clubs are now legally challenging the FFP rules,those with most to lose,I.e Leicester and QPR it is inevitable that the rules will be watered down and is it really right to have different sets of rules and standards for the PL?
Under the FFP rules owners are allowed to invest 5 million each year that they are compliant, Barber has said we will be compliant. You ask where I get that from, well it's written into the FFP rule book. We don't have to be making a profit, we just need to be compliant.
Yes it would be much better for us not to look to Bloom for more money, we need to make money in other ways, but, if Bloom backs Garcia with a chunk of money for transfers, I contest that that will show his faith in his chosen manager, even if we don't make the play-offs.
Actually Vegas I believe it is £5 Mill for the current season but only £3 Mill next (I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong). However we still have the money raised from the sales of Barnes (say £500,00), Bridcutt (£3.5 mill) and El Abd (£90,000) plus a small fee for Barker (say £20,000). So Oscar ought to have a reasonable budget anyway plus any further funds raised by selling someone like Buckley.
Various posters have raised the question of how effective Oscar has been. Having looked at the squad we had 1 September 2013 I predicted that we would finish just outside the play-offs (9th actually in the Seagulls over London forecast competition). It looks increasingly that we will just miss out on the play-offs so Oscar has performed more or less in line with expectations in spite of all the injury difficulties etc.
However I still feel that we could and perhaps should have done better and feel we have been let down by our Home form. The problem we have now is that our expectations have risen. With crowds averaging 27,000 plus at the Amex and the new training facility opening in July we are beginning to look as if we should be in the Premier League but we are not.
It is interesting that Moyes has just been sacked by Man U when 7th in the Premier League but Liverpool who finished 7th last season persevered with Rodgers and look like being rewarded with the Premier League title this year. Both teams have big expectations. Will BHA follow the Man U example if we finish 7th or 8th or the Liverpool one and give Oscar the chance to show he has learnt from this season ? I hope we show patience and wait and see what calibre of squad Oscar can put together for next season. One thing Oscar will need to address is our very indifferent Home form and lack of goals.
Interesting times with a number of top quality managers now looking for work including Moyes, Steve Clarke, Di Matteo, Laudrup, Mackay and apparently, at the end of the season, Sherwood.
All still to play for in the next 2 games although our destiny is not in our own hands anymore.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Vegas PB has advised that the club do not want to be in a position to have to rely on TB money and you mention he can put in another 5m where do you get that view from,it will depend on our level of debt and FFP compliance. But so many clubs are now legally challenging the FFP rules,those with most to lose,I.e Leicester and QPR it is inevitable that the rules will be watered down and is it really right to have different sets of rules and standards for the PL?[/p][/quote]Under the FFP rules owners are allowed to invest 5 million each year that they are compliant, Barber has said we will be compliant. You ask where I get that from, well it's written into the FFP rule book. We don't have to be making a profit, we just need to be compliant. Yes it would be much better for us not to look to Bloom for more money, we need to make money in other ways, but, if Bloom backs Garcia with a chunk of money for transfers, I contest that that will show his faith in his chosen manager, even if we don't make the play-offs.[/p][/quote]Actually Vegas I believe it is £5 Mill for the current season but only £3 Mill next (I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong). However we still have the money raised from the sales of Barnes (say £500,00), Bridcutt (£3.5 mill) and El Abd (£90,000) plus a small fee for Barker (say £20,000). So Oscar ought to have a reasonable budget anyway plus any further funds raised by selling someone like Buckley. Various posters have raised the question of how effective Oscar has been. Having looked at the squad we had 1 September 2013 I predicted that we would finish just outside the play-offs (9th actually in the Seagulls over London forecast competition). It looks increasingly that we will just miss out on the play-offs so Oscar has performed more or less in line with expectations in spite of all the injury difficulties etc. However I still feel that we could and perhaps should have done better and feel we have been let down by our Home form. The problem we have now is that our expectations have risen. With crowds averaging 27,000 plus at the Amex and the new training facility opening in July we are beginning to look as if we should be in the Premier League but we are not. It is interesting that Moyes has just been sacked by Man U when 7th in the Premier League but Liverpool who finished 7th last season persevered with Rodgers and look like being rewarded with the Premier League title this year. Both teams have big expectations. Will BHA follow the Man U example if we finish 7th or 8th or the Liverpool one and give Oscar the chance to show he has learnt from this season ? I hope we show patience and wait and see what calibre of squad Oscar can put together for next season. One thing Oscar will need to address is our very indifferent Home form and lack of goals. Interesting times with a number of top quality managers now looking for work including Moyes, Steve Clarke, Di Matteo, Laudrup, Mackay and apparently, at the end of the season, Sherwood. All still to play for in the next 2 games although our destiny is not in our own hands anymore. ballantrrae
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5:28pm Wed 23 Apr 14

brightonup says...

I am sick of facile predictions of victory.

Hope for everything
Expect nothing
Prepare for anything

....and enjoy the journey
I am sick of facile predictions of victory. Hope for everything Expect nothing Prepare for anything ....and enjoy the journey brightonup
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5:31pm Wed 23 Apr 14

brightonup says...

.... and I am also heartily sick of trolls fishing - and constantly getting easy bites.
.... and I am also heartily sick of trolls fishing - and constantly getting easy bites. brightonup
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5:36pm Wed 23 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

Neville wrote:
Gordon Gull yes that's my understanding as well.
As I understand it we have to cut our losses year on year over a three year period, with the goal to break even of show a profit at the end of the 3 years. The cuts made to losses this year are cuts on last year's figures, we will divert some 3 million this year to reduce last year's figure, and that will bring us down to 8 million loss. If I am right that means when this year's losses are announced around December 2014, we will have a maximum of 8 million losses for the season now ending, so we will have to make more cuts in the coming season. I say a maximum of 8 million becuase we might cut our losses by a bigger figure.

If you check out the Wikki article re FFP you will see the section which says how much owners are allowed to invest each year.

We should not forget that we have new money coming in this year from the sale of the naming rights to our new facility, Bloom might well divert some of that money to the transfer kitty.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Gordon Gull yes that's my understanding as well.[/p][/quote]As I understand it we have to cut our losses year on year over a three year period, with the goal to break even of show a profit at the end of the 3 years. The cuts made to losses this year are cuts on last year's figures, we will divert some 3 million this year to reduce last year's figure, and that will bring us down to 8 million loss. If I am right that means when this year's losses are announced around December 2014, we will have a maximum of 8 million losses for the season now ending, so we will have to make more cuts in the coming season. I say a maximum of 8 million becuase we might cut our losses by a bigger figure. If you check out the Wikki article re FFP you will see the section which says how much owners are allowed to invest each year. We should not forget that we have new money coming in this year from the sale of the naming rights to our new facility, Bloom might well divert some of that money to the transfer kitty. VegasSeagull
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6:04pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Norfolk and way says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Norfolk and way wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Lots of speculation regarding which players will be looking for the exit door. Lots of opinions as to who should be given a new contract and much about who shouldn't.
Loads of opinions as to whether we have had a good year or a bad one, all things considered, and we have talk suggesting Garcia isn't happy and will want out along with, Garcia should be replaced.
Several comments about Jones and his role, and comments from Jones, Gracia and some players.
The one guy we have not heard from is Tony Bloom, and I doubt we will until all is done and dusted.

Bloom employed Garcia knowing exactly what he was getting, the good and the bad of his decision. He knew the limitations of Garcia when dealing in the transfer market, lack of knowledge. He knew Garcia's limitations re his knowledge of our opponents. He also knew that Garcia would have a less than desirable pre-season preparation period. Knowing all this he still gave him the job and told the fans that a play-off place was the target.

Whilst Bloom, like the fans of which he is one, will be dissapointed if we don't quite make the play-offs, he will surely be pleased with the fact that his appointee has maintained a respectful position in the table for the entire season, given the limitations of Garcia from day one, and the horrendous injury list.

If we don't make the target stated by Bloom, and did anyone really expect him to set the target lower, the level of confidence Bloom has for Garcia will manifest it's self in the summer transfer market. When the season is done and Bloom speaks, I expect him to be full of praise for Garcia, even if some of the fans are less than satisfied with him.
I think Bloom will take the view that Garcia has made some tactical errors this year, but he will accept that Garcia was finding his feet in the english game, and that mistakes were inevitable given his known limitations.

Bloom is the man, it is his hand that went into his pocket and pulled out his money that brought us to where we are today, the guy has made very few mistakes, if any at all. I odn't think Bloom is in the, 'instant results,' game, he thinks ahead. He brought in Poyet and Poyet moved us forward, we now have Garcia, and I am sure that Bloom thinks he will move us further forward, but not over night, and certainly not in his first season in charge.

If Bloom backs Garcia, and I am positive he will, the calls for Garcia to be replaced will call into question the confidence level those that make those calls have in Bloom. If Bloom, in his heart of hearts, considers Garcia's performance so far to be what he (Bloom) had hoped for, he will back him in the summer dealings, don't fortget, Bloom, under the FFP rules, can deposit a further five million in the transfer kitty, Garcia could have quite a war chest to work with, time will tell.
Yes Bloom is to blame. He built that stadium to draw us in and collect our money, and put a second rate team and manager in it. He needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat this summer or there may be an angry mob to deal with.
surprised to see that you think Poyet was/is, a second rate manager, he did after all get the club promoted and got the team into the play-offs
Well Gus clearly has flaws which was why no one else wanted him, and he damaged the clubs image even more. Promotion in the lower divisions is not like the prem, now he looks second rate taking his club to the bottom.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Lots of speculation regarding which players will be looking for the exit door. Lots of opinions as to who should be given a new contract and much about who shouldn't. Loads of opinions as to whether we have had a good year or a bad one, all things considered, and we have talk suggesting Garcia isn't happy and will want out along with, Garcia should be replaced. Several comments about Jones and his role, and comments from Jones, Gracia and some players. The one guy we have not heard from is Tony Bloom, and I doubt we will until all is done and dusted. Bloom employed Garcia knowing exactly what he was getting, the good and the bad of his decision. He knew the limitations of Garcia when dealing in the transfer market, lack of knowledge. He knew Garcia's limitations re his knowledge of our opponents. He also knew that Garcia would have a less than desirable pre-season preparation period. Knowing all this he still gave him the job and told the fans that a play-off place was the target. Whilst Bloom, like the fans of which he is one, will be dissapointed if we don't quite make the play-offs, he will surely be pleased with the fact that his appointee has maintained a respectful position in the table for the entire season, given the limitations of Garcia from day one, and the horrendous injury list. If we don't make the target stated by Bloom, and did anyone really expect him to set the target lower, the level of confidence Bloom has for Garcia will manifest it's self in the summer transfer market. When the season is done and Bloom speaks, I expect him to be full of praise for Garcia, even if some of the fans are less than satisfied with him. I think Bloom will take the view that Garcia has made some tactical errors this year, but he will accept that Garcia was finding his feet in the english game, and that mistakes were inevitable given his known limitations. Bloom is the man, it is his hand that went into his pocket and pulled out his money that brought us to where we are today, the guy has made very few mistakes, if any at all. I odn't think Bloom is in the, 'instant results,' game, he thinks ahead. He brought in Poyet and Poyet moved us forward, we now have Garcia, and I am sure that Bloom thinks he will move us further forward, but not over night, and certainly not in his first season in charge. If Bloom backs Garcia, and I am positive he will, the calls for Garcia to be replaced will call into question the confidence level those that make those calls have in Bloom. If Bloom, in his heart of hearts, considers Garcia's performance so far to be what he (Bloom) had hoped for, he will back him in the summer dealings, don't fortget, Bloom, under the FFP rules, can deposit a further five million in the transfer kitty, Garcia could have quite a war chest to work with, time will tell.[/p][/quote]Yes Bloom is to blame. He built that stadium to draw us in and collect our money, and put a second rate team and manager in it. He needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat this summer or there may be an angry mob to deal with.[/p][/quote]surprised to see that you think Poyet was/is, a second rate manager, he did after all get the club promoted and got the team into the play-offs[/p][/quote]Well Gus clearly has flaws which was why no one else wanted him, and he damaged the clubs image even more. Promotion in the lower divisions is not like the prem, now he looks second rate taking his club to the bottom. Norfolk and way
  • Score: -3

6:10pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Norfolk and way says...

brightonup wrote:
.... and I am also heartily sick of trolls fishing - and constantly getting easy bites.
Hear hear.
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: .... and I am also heartily sick of trolls fishing - and constantly getting easy bites.[/p][/quote]Hear hear. Norfolk and way
  • Score: 0

6:22pm Wed 23 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

Norfolk and way wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Norfolk and way wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Lots of speculation regarding which players will be looking for the exit door. Lots of opinions as to who should be given a new contract and much about who shouldn't.
Loads of opinions as to whether we have had a good year or a bad one, all things considered, and we have talk suggesting Garcia isn't happy and will want out along with, Garcia should be replaced.
Several comments about Jones and his role, and comments from Jones, Gracia and some players.
The one guy we have not heard from is Tony Bloom, and I doubt we will until all is done and dusted.

Bloom employed Garcia knowing exactly what he was getting, the good and the bad of his decision. He knew the limitations of Garcia when dealing in the transfer market, lack of knowledge. He knew Garcia's limitations re his knowledge of our opponents. He also knew that Garcia would have a less than desirable pre-season preparation period. Knowing all this he still gave him the job and told the fans that a play-off place was the target.

Whilst Bloom, like the fans of which he is one, will be dissapointed if we don't quite make the play-offs, he will surely be pleased with the fact that his appointee has maintained a respectful position in the table for the entire season, given the limitations of Garcia from day one, and the horrendous injury list.

If we don't make the target stated by Bloom, and did anyone really expect him to set the target lower, the level of confidence Bloom has for Garcia will manifest it's self in the summer transfer market. When the season is done and Bloom speaks, I expect him to be full of praise for Garcia, even if some of the fans are less than satisfied with him.
I think Bloom will take the view that Garcia has made some tactical errors this year, but he will accept that Garcia was finding his feet in the english game, and that mistakes were inevitable given his known limitations.

Bloom is the man, it is his hand that went into his pocket and pulled out his money that brought us to where we are today, the guy has made very few mistakes, if any at all. I odn't think Bloom is in the, 'instant results,' game, he thinks ahead. He brought in Poyet and Poyet moved us forward, we now have Garcia, and I am sure that Bloom thinks he will move us further forward, but not over night, and certainly not in his first season in charge.

If Bloom backs Garcia, and I am positive he will, the calls for Garcia to be replaced will call into question the confidence level those that make those calls have in Bloom. If Bloom, in his heart of hearts, considers Garcia's performance so far to be what he (Bloom) had hoped for, he will back him in the summer dealings, don't fortget, Bloom, under the FFP rules, can deposit a further five million in the transfer kitty, Garcia could have quite a war chest to work with, time will tell.
Yes Bloom is to blame. He built that stadium to draw us in and collect our money, and put a second rate team and manager in it. He needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat this summer or there may be an angry mob to deal with.
surprised to see that you think Poyet was/is, a second rate manager, he did after all get the club promoted and got the team into the play-offs
Well Gus clearly has flaws which was why no one else wanted him, and he damaged the clubs image even more. Promotion in the lower divisions is not like the prem, now he looks second rate taking his club to the bottom.
Reading wanted him and so did Sunderland.

I am not a Poyet fan, but I do respect what he did for Brighton. Sunderland were relegation fodder when Poyet took over, he did well with the cup run and he has helped them get one or two good results, but yes, they do look like being relegated.

I think the sacking of Moyes by United might have been a decision made a tad too quickly, Ferguson didn't do well for United when he took over, but he turned out to be quite good in the end.

Regarding Oscar, only Bloom knows his fate and only Bloom knows what he (Bloom) really feels about our season, we will all find out soon enough. I think he will back him. If by chance there were to be a change, I would like to think that Bloom could persuade Oscar to take over the new facility, but I doubt he would accept the offer.
[quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Lots of speculation regarding which players will be looking for the exit door. Lots of opinions as to who should be given a new contract and much about who shouldn't. Loads of opinions as to whether we have had a good year or a bad one, all things considered, and we have talk suggesting Garcia isn't happy and will want out along with, Garcia should be replaced. Several comments about Jones and his role, and comments from Jones, Gracia and some players. The one guy we have not heard from is Tony Bloom, and I doubt we will until all is done and dusted. Bloom employed Garcia knowing exactly what he was getting, the good and the bad of his decision. He knew the limitations of Garcia when dealing in the transfer market, lack of knowledge. He knew Garcia's limitations re his knowledge of our opponents. He also knew that Garcia would have a less than desirable pre-season preparation period. Knowing all this he still gave him the job and told the fans that a play-off place was the target. Whilst Bloom, like the fans of which he is one, will be dissapointed if we don't quite make the play-offs, he will surely be pleased with the fact that his appointee has maintained a respectful position in the table for the entire season, given the limitations of Garcia from day one, and the horrendous injury list. If we don't make the target stated by Bloom, and did anyone really expect him to set the target lower, the level of confidence Bloom has for Garcia will manifest it's self in the summer transfer market. When the season is done and Bloom speaks, I expect him to be full of praise for Garcia, even if some of the fans are less than satisfied with him. I think Bloom will take the view that Garcia has made some tactical errors this year, but he will accept that Garcia was finding his feet in the english game, and that mistakes were inevitable given his known limitations. Bloom is the man, it is his hand that went into his pocket and pulled out his money that brought us to where we are today, the guy has made very few mistakes, if any at all. I odn't think Bloom is in the, 'instant results,' game, he thinks ahead. He brought in Poyet and Poyet moved us forward, we now have Garcia, and I am sure that Bloom thinks he will move us further forward, but not over night, and certainly not in his first season in charge. If Bloom backs Garcia, and I am positive he will, the calls for Garcia to be replaced will call into question the confidence level those that make those calls have in Bloom. If Bloom, in his heart of hearts, considers Garcia's performance so far to be what he (Bloom) had hoped for, he will back him in the summer dealings, don't fortget, Bloom, under the FFP rules, can deposit a further five million in the transfer kitty, Garcia could have quite a war chest to work with, time will tell.[/p][/quote]Yes Bloom is to blame. He built that stadium to draw us in and collect our money, and put a second rate team and manager in it. He needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat this summer or there may be an angry mob to deal with.[/p][/quote]surprised to see that you think Poyet was/is, a second rate manager, he did after all get the club promoted and got the team into the play-offs[/p][/quote]Well Gus clearly has flaws which was why no one else wanted him, and he damaged the clubs image even more. Promotion in the lower divisions is not like the prem, now he looks second rate taking his club to the bottom.[/p][/quote]Reading wanted him and so did Sunderland. I am not a Poyet fan, but I do respect what he did for Brighton. Sunderland were relegation fodder when Poyet took over, he did well with the cup run and he has helped them get one or two good results, but yes, they do look like being relegated. I think the sacking of Moyes by United might have been a decision made a tad too quickly, Ferguson didn't do well for United when he took over, but he turned out to be quite good in the end. Regarding Oscar, only Bloom knows his fate and only Bloom knows what he (Bloom) really feels about our season, we will all find out soon enough. I think he will back him. If by chance there were to be a change, I would like to think that Bloom could persuade Oscar to take over the new facility, but I doubt he would accept the offer. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

6:41pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Seagulls High says...

Oscar has been a good manager and Brighton can still achieve a play off place by beating Yeovil and the Reading result and others going Albion's way. Even if we do not Albion have had a good season. The Injuries in the early part of the Season with Mackail Smith, Andrew Croft (Out) and Will Hoskins and Orlandi who is still out, could have derailed the season. Full credit lies with Oscar and Nathan Jones for finding good replacements on loan such as Ward, and Keith Andrews and others. Also credit to Solley March, Rohan Ince and Jake Foster Caskey who filled in for key players in the first team. I hope that we can hold onto them all and offer contracts to Kuschak who has been outstanding and Ward and Keith Andrews. An injury free season could see Brighton finishing in the automatic or play off spots next time.
Oscar has been a good manager and Brighton can still achieve a play off place by beating Yeovil and the Reading result and others going Albion's way. Even if we do not Albion have had a good season. The Injuries in the early part of the Season with Mackail Smith, Andrew Croft (Out) and Will Hoskins and Orlandi who is still out, could have derailed the season. Full credit lies with Oscar and Nathan Jones for finding good replacements on loan such as Ward, and Keith Andrews and others. Also credit to Solley March, Rohan Ince and Jake Foster Caskey who filled in for key players in the first team. I hope that we can hold onto them all and offer contracts to Kuschak who has been outstanding and Ward and Keith Andrews. An injury free season could see Brighton finishing in the automatic or play off spots next time. Seagulls High
  • Score: 1

7:13pm Wed 23 Apr 14

albionbloke says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Norfolk and way wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Norfolk and way wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Lots of speculation regarding which players will be looking for the exit door. Lots of opinions as to who should be given a new contract and much about who shouldn't.
Loads of opinions as to whether we have had a good year or a bad one, all things considered, and we have talk suggesting Garcia isn't happy and will want out along with, Garcia should be replaced.
Several comments about Jones and his role, and comments from Jones, Gracia and some players.
The one guy we have not heard from is Tony Bloom, and I doubt we will until all is done and dusted.

Bloom employed Garcia knowing exactly what he was getting, the good and the bad of his decision. He knew the limitations of Garcia when dealing in the transfer market, lack of knowledge. He knew Garcia's limitations re his knowledge of our opponents. He also knew that Garcia would have a less than desirable pre-season preparation period. Knowing all this he still gave him the job and told the fans that a play-off place was the target.

Whilst Bloom, like the fans of which he is one, will be dissapointed if we don't quite make the play-offs, he will surely be pleased with the fact that his appointee has maintained a respectful position in the table for the entire season, given the limitations of Garcia from day one, and the horrendous injury list.

If we don't make the target stated by Bloom, and did anyone really expect him to set the target lower, the level of confidence Bloom has for Garcia will manifest it's self in the summer transfer market. When the season is done and Bloom speaks, I expect him to be full of praise for Garcia, even if some of the fans are less than satisfied with him.
I think Bloom will take the view that Garcia has made some tactical errors this year, but he will accept that Garcia was finding his feet in the english game, and that mistakes were inevitable given his known limitations.

Bloom is the man, it is his hand that went into his pocket and pulled out his money that brought us to where we are today, the guy has made very few mistakes, if any at all. I odn't think Bloom is in the, 'instant results,' game, he thinks ahead. He brought in Poyet and Poyet moved us forward, we now have Garcia, and I am sure that Bloom thinks he will move us further forward, but not over night, and certainly not in his first season in charge.

If Bloom backs Garcia, and I am positive he will, the calls for Garcia to be replaced will call into question the confidence level those that make those calls have in Bloom. If Bloom, in his heart of hearts, considers Garcia's performance so far to be what he (Bloom) had hoped for, he will back him in the summer dealings, don't fortget, Bloom, under the FFP rules, can deposit a further five million in the transfer kitty, Garcia could have quite a war chest to work with, time will tell.
Yes Bloom is to blame. He built that stadium to draw us in and collect our money, and put a second rate team and manager in it. He needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat this summer or there may be an angry mob to deal with.
surprised to see that you think Poyet was/is, a second rate manager, he did after all get the club promoted and got the team into the play-offs
Well Gus clearly has flaws which was why no one else wanted him, and he damaged the clubs image even more. Promotion in the lower divisions is not like the prem, now he looks second rate taking his club to the bottom.
Reading wanted him and so did Sunderland.

I am not a Poyet fan, but I do respect what he did for Brighton. Sunderland were relegation fodder when Poyet took over, he did well with the cup run and he has helped them get one or two good results, but yes, they do look like being relegated.

I think the sacking of Moyes by United might have been a decision made a tad too quickly, Ferguson didn't do well for United when he took over, but he turned out to be quite good in the end.

Regarding Oscar, only Bloom knows his fate and only Bloom knows what he (Bloom) really feels about our season, we will all find out soon enough. I think he will back him. If by chance there were to be a change, I would like to think that Bloom could persuade Oscar to take over the new facility, but I doubt he would accept the offer.
Managerial changes are often knee-jerk reactions....somethi
ng I don't see in Tony Bloom. I fully expect him to stick with Garcia.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norfolk and way[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Lots of speculation regarding which players will be looking for the exit door. Lots of opinions as to who should be given a new contract and much about who shouldn't. Loads of opinions as to whether we have had a good year or a bad one, all things considered, and we have talk suggesting Garcia isn't happy and will want out along with, Garcia should be replaced. Several comments about Jones and his role, and comments from Jones, Gracia and some players. The one guy we have not heard from is Tony Bloom, and I doubt we will until all is done and dusted. Bloom employed Garcia knowing exactly what he was getting, the good and the bad of his decision. He knew the limitations of Garcia when dealing in the transfer market, lack of knowledge. He knew Garcia's limitations re his knowledge of our opponents. He also knew that Garcia would have a less than desirable pre-season preparation period. Knowing all this he still gave him the job and told the fans that a play-off place was the target. Whilst Bloom, like the fans of which he is one, will be dissapointed if we don't quite make the play-offs, he will surely be pleased with the fact that his appointee has maintained a respectful position in the table for the entire season, given the limitations of Garcia from day one, and the horrendous injury list. If we don't make the target stated by Bloom, and did anyone really expect him to set the target lower, the level of confidence Bloom has for Garcia will manifest it's self in the summer transfer market. When the season is done and Bloom speaks, I expect him to be full of praise for Garcia, even if some of the fans are less than satisfied with him. I think Bloom will take the view that Garcia has made some tactical errors this year, but he will accept that Garcia was finding his feet in the english game, and that mistakes were inevitable given his known limitations. Bloom is the man, it is his hand that went into his pocket and pulled out his money that brought us to where we are today, the guy has made very few mistakes, if any at all. I odn't think Bloom is in the, 'instant results,' game, he thinks ahead. He brought in Poyet and Poyet moved us forward, we now have Garcia, and I am sure that Bloom thinks he will move us further forward, but not over night, and certainly not in his first season in charge. If Bloom backs Garcia, and I am positive he will, the calls for Garcia to be replaced will call into question the confidence level those that make those calls have in Bloom. If Bloom, in his heart of hearts, considers Garcia's performance so far to be what he (Bloom) had hoped for, he will back him in the summer dealings, don't fortget, Bloom, under the FFP rules, can deposit a further five million in the transfer kitty, Garcia could have quite a war chest to work with, time will tell.[/p][/quote]Yes Bloom is to blame. He built that stadium to draw us in and collect our money, and put a second rate team and manager in it. He needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat this summer or there may be an angry mob to deal with.[/p][/quote]surprised to see that you think Poyet was/is, a second rate manager, he did after all get the club promoted and got the team into the play-offs[/p][/quote]Well Gus clearly has flaws which was why no one else wanted him, and he damaged the clubs image even more. Promotion in the lower divisions is not like the prem, now he looks second rate taking his club to the bottom.[/p][/quote]Reading wanted him and so did Sunderland. I am not a Poyet fan, but I do respect what he did for Brighton. Sunderland were relegation fodder when Poyet took over, he did well with the cup run and he has helped them get one or two good results, but yes, they do look like being relegated. I think the sacking of Moyes by United might have been a decision made a tad too quickly, Ferguson didn't do well for United when he took over, but he turned out to be quite good in the end. Regarding Oscar, only Bloom knows his fate and only Bloom knows what he (Bloom) really feels about our season, we will all find out soon enough. I think he will back him. If by chance there were to be a change, I would like to think that Bloom could persuade Oscar to take over the new facility, but I doubt he would accept the offer.[/p][/quote]Managerial changes are often knee-jerk reactions....somethi ng I don't see in Tony Bloom. I fully expect him to stick with Garcia. albionbloke
  • Score: 2

7:23pm Wed 23 Apr 14

ringtone says...

brightonup wrote:
I am sick of facile predictions of victory.

Hope for everything
Expect nothing
Prepare for anything

....and enjoy the journey
Please spare us the self help jargon, yawn.
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: I am sick of facile predictions of victory. Hope for everything Expect nothing Prepare for anything ....and enjoy the journey[/p][/quote]Please spare us the self help jargon, yawn. ringtone
  • Score: -2

7:29pm Wed 23 Apr 14

ringtone says...

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
I didn't appreciate it at the time but I now know what an astute piece of business it was to tranfer Barnesy to Burnley. Those with foresight could see that he would in fact carry on helping with the Albion cause right through to the bitter end. As we struggle to scrape 3 points at the City ground on the 3rd of May young Ash will be slotting away the winner at the Mad Jerksky stadium, thus catapulting us into the play-offs. I have often been less than polite about the suits and those responsible for football policy - and even less about AB - but I stand corrected and apologise to all concerned. They move in mysterious ways, them men in suits. Of course our first hurdle is Yeovil - and given our current record against lowly clubs (and they don't get any more lowly than the Cider Boys) this is yet another squeaky bum occasion but I remain very positive with fingers firmly crossed. UTA and, of course, dear old Ash...!!!
And when Ash plays Arsenal next year you can look forward to Brentfords galacticos packing out the Amex, oh thankyou suits.
[quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: I didn't appreciate it at the time but I now know what an astute piece of business it was to tranfer Barnesy to Burnley. Those with foresight could see that he would in fact carry on helping with the Albion cause right through to the bitter end. As we struggle to scrape 3 points at the City ground on the 3rd of May young Ash will be slotting away the winner at the Mad Jerksky stadium, thus catapulting us into the play-offs. I have often been less than polite about the suits and those responsible for football policy - and even less about AB - but I stand corrected and apologise to all concerned. They move in mysterious ways, them men in suits. Of course our first hurdle is Yeovil - and given our current record against lowly clubs (and they don't get any more lowly than the Cider Boys) this is yet another squeaky bum occasion but I remain very positive with fingers firmly crossed. UTA and, of course, dear old Ash...!!![/p][/quote]And when Ash plays Arsenal next year you can look forward to Brentfords galacticos packing out the Amex, oh thankyou suits. ringtone
  • Score: 1

7:31pm Wed 23 Apr 14

brightonup says...

Seagulls High wrote:
Oscar has been a good manager and Brighton can still achieve a play off place by beating Yeovil and the Reading result and others going Albion's way. Even if we do not Albion have had a good season. The Injuries in the early part of the Season with Mackail Smith, Andrew Croft (Out) and Will Hoskins and Orlandi who is still out, could have derailed the season. Full credit lies with Oscar and Nathan Jones for finding good replacements on loan such as Ward, and Keith Andrews and others. Also credit to Solley March, Rohan Ince and Jake Foster Caskey who filled in for key players in the first team. I hope that we can hold onto them all and offer contracts to Kuschak who has been outstanding and Ward and Keith Andrews. An injury free season could see Brighton finishing in the automatic or play off spots next time.
I agree with this post.
Our season is not defined by whether or not we reach the play offs.
Remember - the Club versus Poyet saga was ongoing when Garcia took up the managerial role; the fall out of that event could easily have ruined our entire season, but for the focused calm of the manager; then when we were almost without a fit recognised striker and unable to score, we somehow maintained a challenge for the play offs by effective defending. Finally, the disruptive effect of the January transfers and transfer rumour-mongering could have derailed us - but didn't. In my opinion that was due to the quiet, calm focus of our manager.
This season is already a success story and Garcia deserves great credit for that.
[quote][p][bold]Seagulls High[/bold] wrote: Oscar has been a good manager and Brighton can still achieve a play off place by beating Yeovil and the Reading result and others going Albion's way. Even if we do not Albion have had a good season. The Injuries in the early part of the Season with Mackail Smith, Andrew Croft (Out) and Will Hoskins and Orlandi who is still out, could have derailed the season. Full credit lies with Oscar and Nathan Jones for finding good replacements on loan such as Ward, and Keith Andrews and others. Also credit to Solley March, Rohan Ince and Jake Foster Caskey who filled in for key players in the first team. I hope that we can hold onto them all and offer contracts to Kuschak who has been outstanding and Ward and Keith Andrews. An injury free season could see Brighton finishing in the automatic or play off spots next time.[/p][/quote]I agree with this post. Our season is not defined by whether or not we reach the play offs. Remember - the Club versus Poyet saga was ongoing when Garcia took up the managerial role; the fall out of that event could easily have ruined our entire season, but for the focused calm of the manager; then when we were almost without a fit recognised striker and unable to score, we somehow maintained a challenge for the play offs by effective defending. Finally, the disruptive effect of the January transfers and transfer rumour-mongering could have derailed us - but didn't. In my opinion that was due to the quiet, calm focus of our manager. This season is already a success story and Garcia deserves great credit for that. brightonup
  • Score: 3

7:33pm Wed 23 Apr 14

brightonup says...

Dungtone still has nothing of interest to offer I see. What a waste of skin!
Dungtone still has nothing of interest to offer I see. What a waste of skin! brightonup
  • Score: 1

7:42pm Wed 23 Apr 14

ringtone says...

Claude Back wrote:
fratsomrover wrote:
I apologise if this repeating something I posted earlier, but when Oscar says
"“For me it’s amazing to be fighting for this place at this stage"
“It’s amazing to be here and have a chance to get into the play-offs"

Yes it is amazing because we should be in a position where a top 6 place is already guaranteed. It's amazing that we haven't secured that place already. Just look at the number of home points dropped against inferior opposition
On the Blackpool match Oscar said
"We wanted to start brightly but we couldn't because Blackpool kept the ball and it was hard for us to get it back."

For Christs sake, what does he expect ? Isn't that part of the game, to stop your opposition from getting the ball. What did he expect, that they would keep giving it to us ?

Our tactics Oscar are to stop teams dictating how they want to play the game. Maybe playing a higher line, keeping pressure on their back four so that their keeper cant keep feeding the ball to the full backs and forcing him to kick it long just might improve our chances of gaining possession a little more often ?
I wrote last week that we had total control of our own destiny and that fortune would favor the brave (bold).
Was it really asking so much to be brave for the first 45 minutes on Monday, to take the game to the opposition, to strike first and really get them rocking. We had nothing to lose and everything to gain yet we went out with a whimper. How many shots on target in those first 45 mins ?
Now we have conceded our position to Reading and the blame lies with the strategist who defines how the team plays.
Well said.
It's a pity that Jeff Lomer and Aldrington Halt etc cannot evaluate evidence like you or MTBS. Their confidence in Garcia to take us forward is simply amazing considering what he has done so far, i.e. nothing! Clearly they are satisfied with under achievement.
His poor tactics and team selection have us scraping for a Play Off place when we should have wrapped this up long ago with the squad we have, yet they think we should be grateful and have had a wonderful season! It would suggest they are newcomers to watching football or have poor judgement.
Being an Albion supporter doesn't have to mean you leave your brain behind when you watch them.
(Freeloaders would say you have to have your own brain not someone else's. Where is he? I miss his amusing comments although I suspect he is posting under one or two non de plumes. Never understand why some on here get so angry with him and his like. At least the trolls provide much needed humour.)
I always liked you Claude, now i love you.

Jeff dormer and Aldringtons fault are why opposing fans cant sit with each other at games, ie you have to agree with them or else.
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: I apologise if this repeating something I posted earlier, but when Oscar says "“For me it’s amazing to be fighting for this place at this stage" “It’s amazing to be here and have a chance to get into the play-offs" Yes it is amazing because we should be in a position where a top 6 place is already guaranteed. It's amazing that we haven't secured that place already. Just look at the number of home points dropped against inferior opposition On the Blackpool match Oscar said "We wanted to start brightly but we couldn't because Blackpool kept the ball and it was hard for us to get it back." For Christs sake, what does he expect ? Isn't that part of the game, to stop your opposition from getting the ball. What did he expect, that they would keep giving it to us ? Our tactics Oscar are to stop teams dictating how they want to play the game. Maybe playing a higher line, keeping pressure on their back four so that their keeper cant keep feeding the ball to the full backs and forcing him to kick it long just might improve our chances of gaining possession a little more often ? I wrote last week that we had total control of our own destiny and that fortune would favor the brave (bold). Was it really asking so much to be brave for the first 45 minutes on Monday, to take the game to the opposition, to strike first and really get them rocking. We had nothing to lose and everything to gain yet we went out with a whimper. How many shots on target in those first 45 mins ? Now we have conceded our position to Reading and the blame lies with the strategist who defines how the team plays.[/p][/quote]Well said. It's a pity that Jeff Lomer and Aldrington Halt etc cannot evaluate evidence like you or MTBS. Their confidence in Garcia to take us forward is simply amazing considering what he has done so far, i.e. nothing! Clearly they are satisfied with under achievement. His poor tactics and team selection have us scraping for a Play Off place when we should have wrapped this up long ago with the squad we have, yet they think we should be grateful and have had a wonderful season! It would suggest they are newcomers to watching football or have poor judgement. Being an Albion supporter doesn't have to mean you leave your brain behind when you watch them. (Freeloaders would say you have to have your own brain not someone else's. Where is he? I miss his amusing comments although I suspect he is posting under one or two non de plumes. Never understand why some on here get so angry with him and his like. At least the trolls provide much needed humour.)[/p][/quote]I always liked you Claude, now i love you. Jeff dormer and Aldringtons fault are why opposing fans cant sit with each other at games, ie you have to agree with them or else. ringtone
  • Score: 0

7:52pm Wed 23 Apr 14

ringtone says...

brightonup wrote:
Seagulls High wrote:
Oscar has been a good manager and Brighton can still achieve a play off place by beating Yeovil and the Reading result and others going Albion's way. Even if we do not Albion have had a good season. The Injuries in the early part of the Season with Mackail Smith, Andrew Croft (Out) and Will Hoskins and Orlandi who is still out, could have derailed the season. Full credit lies with Oscar and Nathan Jones for finding good replacements on loan such as Ward, and Keith Andrews and others. Also credit to Solley March, Rohan Ince and Jake Foster Caskey who filled in for key players in the first team. I hope that we can hold onto them all and offer contracts to Kuschak who has been outstanding and Ward and Keith Andrews. An injury free season could see Brighton finishing in the automatic or play off spots next time.
I agree with this post.
Our season is not defined by whether or not we reach the play offs.
Remember - the Club versus Poyet saga was ongoing when Garcia took up the managerial role; the fall out of that event could easily have ruined our entire season, but for the focused calm of the manager; then when we were almost without a fit recognised striker and unable to score, we somehow maintained a challenge for the play offs by effective defending. Finally, the disruptive effect of the January transfers and transfer rumour-mongering could have derailed us - but didn't. In my opinion that was due to the quiet, calm focus of our manager.
This season is already a success story and Garcia deserves great credit for that.
Although I dont agree with your comments maybe you are taking a long term view of things.

But then this would contradict with your living in the now philosophy.

You are one complicated Dude.
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seagulls High[/bold] wrote: Oscar has been a good manager and Brighton can still achieve a play off place by beating Yeovil and the Reading result and others going Albion's way. Even if we do not Albion have had a good season. The Injuries in the early part of the Season with Mackail Smith, Andrew Croft (Out) and Will Hoskins and Orlandi who is still out, could have derailed the season. Full credit lies with Oscar and Nathan Jones for finding good replacements on loan such as Ward, and Keith Andrews and others. Also credit to Solley March, Rohan Ince and Jake Foster Caskey who filled in for key players in the first team. I hope that we can hold onto them all and offer contracts to Kuschak who has been outstanding and Ward and Keith Andrews. An injury free season could see Brighton finishing in the automatic or play off spots next time.[/p][/quote]I agree with this post. Our season is not defined by whether or not we reach the play offs. Remember - the Club versus Poyet saga was ongoing when Garcia took up the managerial role; the fall out of that event could easily have ruined our entire season, but for the focused calm of the manager; then when we were almost without a fit recognised striker and unable to score, we somehow maintained a challenge for the play offs by effective defending. Finally, the disruptive effect of the January transfers and transfer rumour-mongering could have derailed us - but didn't. In my opinion that was due to the quiet, calm focus of our manager. This season is already a success story and Garcia deserves great credit for that.[/p][/quote]Although I dont agree with your comments maybe you are taking a long term view of things. But then this would contradict with your living in the now philosophy. You are one complicated Dude. ringtone
  • Score: 0

9:17pm Wed 23 Apr 14

blue-eyed-boy says...

Piglet1 wrote:
SecondReserve wrote:
Obviously the right things for Garcia to say but perhaps he'd like to explain to all of us who were there on Monday exactly why there was a total lack of both fight and passion from his team when we went into the match in prime position to make the play-offs and the opposition were absolutely mediocre.
There was passion to win but it was stifling and they tried too hard rather than relax and play our passing game. We tended to lump it too much as we became more desperate. It is not a lack of effort or passion, it is tension that causes the misplaced passing etc,etc...
Many supporters make this mistake and should remember that tension from the crowd does not help but wholehearted support does.
I appreciate not everyone wants to sing but at least clap when we do something well or rattle your jewellery in the 1901 area!
The crowd did their bit Saturday, they turned up paid their money & voiced their support, shame the team didn't put in a performance to earn the money & justify the support.
Who knows what agendas are being played out, the amount of enthusiasm we see from Oscar, dose he really want to be here, the amount of backing given to him, do the Board want him to stay, is he Amazed because behind the scenes everyone's just going through the motions?
Anyone know what's going on with Orlandi, thigh injury, is this another way of saying lack of interest?
Oscar said he still had contact with Cruyff & others at Barcelona, I hope that has more substance than the Joe Kinnear "I can Phone any Manager in the world" quote.
The team is only as good as the standards set by the Manager/Head Coach, these are clearly not high enough to bring in consistent performances, unlike the way I consistently pay my Season Ticket each month.
[quote][p][bold]Piglet1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SecondReserve[/bold] wrote: Obviously the right things for Garcia to say but perhaps he'd like to explain to all of us who were there on Monday exactly why there was a total lack of both fight and passion from his team when we went into the match in prime position to make the play-offs and the opposition were absolutely mediocre.[/p][/quote]There was passion to win but it was stifling and they tried too hard rather than relax and play our passing game. We tended to lump it too much as we became more desperate. It is not a lack of effort or passion, it is tension that causes the misplaced passing etc,etc... Many supporters make this mistake and should remember that tension from the crowd does not help but wholehearted support does. I appreciate not everyone wants to sing but at least clap when we do something well or rattle your jewellery in the 1901 area![/p][/quote]The crowd did their bit Saturday, they turned up paid their money & voiced their support, shame the team didn't put in a performance to earn the money & justify the support. Who knows what agendas are being played out, the amount of enthusiasm we see from Oscar, dose he really want to be here, the amount of backing given to him, do the Board want him to stay, is he Amazed because behind the scenes everyone's just going through the motions? Anyone know what's going on with Orlandi, thigh injury, is this another way of saying lack of interest? Oscar said he still had contact with Cruyff & others at Barcelona, I hope that has more substance than the Joe Kinnear "I can Phone any Manager in the world" quote. The team is only as good as the standards set by the Manager/Head Coach, these are clearly not high enough to bring in consistent performances, unlike the way I consistently pay my Season Ticket each month. blue-eyed-boy
  • Score: 0

9:23pm Wed 23 Apr 14

OldGull says...

TheWerewolf wrote:
Seagull John wrote:
We need to win on Friday. We need to score a few goals on Friday. We need to go to Forest with a better goal difference than Reading, so a draw might still be enough. Come on Oscar. It has indeed been a difficult season. Let's finish on a high.
Won't come down to goal diff. If we are to get into playoffs need to win both games. Being 1 point behind reading they would need to draw at least 1 game hence meaning we finish above them by a point. Think we will beat Yeovil since they are down anyway even if not yet mathematically. All down to us v forest and reading v burnley. Lottery....I'm feeling lucky UTA
No it could be goal diff
A win & draw for us
and a Lose & win for Reading would see us on same points.

Win our final home game sets up an intriguing final day.

Despite all the doom & gloom merchants on this site I think we have done reasonably well considering all the events.

Remember 91 we were out of it until Deano's last minute free kick.
I am banking on the fat lady being a Seagulls supporter
[quote][p][bold]TheWerewolf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seagull John[/bold] wrote: We need to win on Friday. We need to score a few goals on Friday. We need to go to Forest with a better goal difference than Reading, so a draw might still be enough. Come on Oscar. It has indeed been a difficult season. Let's finish on a high.[/p][/quote]Won't come down to goal diff. If we are to get into playoffs need to win both games. Being 1 point behind reading they would need to draw at least 1 game hence meaning we finish above them by a point. Think we will beat Yeovil since they are down anyway even if not yet mathematically. All down to us v forest and reading v burnley. Lottery....I'm feeling lucky UTA[/p][/quote]No it could be goal diff A win & draw for us and a Lose & win for Reading would see us on same points. Win our final home game sets up an intriguing final day. Despite all the doom & gloom merchants on this site I think we have done reasonably well considering all the events. Remember 91 we were out of it until Deano's last minute free kick. I am banking on the fat lady being a Seagulls supporter OldGull
  • Score: 1

9:42pm Wed 23 Apr 14

OldGull says...

brightonup wrote:
Seagulls High wrote:
Oscar has been a good manager and Brighton can still achieve a play off place by beating Yeovil and the Reading result and others going Albion's way. Even if we do not Albion have had a good season. The Injuries in the early part of the Season with Mackail Smith, Andrew Croft (Out) and Will Hoskins and Orlandi who is still out, could have derailed the season. Full credit lies with Oscar and Nathan Jones for finding good replacements on loan such as Ward, and Keith Andrews and others. Also credit to Solley March, Rohan Ince and Jake Foster Caskey who filled in for key players in the first team. I hope that we can hold onto them all and offer contracts to Kuschak who has been outstanding and Ward and Keith Andrews. An injury free season could see Brighton finishing in the automatic or play off spots next time.
I agree with this post.
Our season is not defined by whether or not we reach the play offs.
Remember - the Club versus Poyet saga was ongoing when Garcia took up the managerial role; the fall out of that event could easily have ruined our entire season, but for the focused calm of the manager; then when we were almost without a fit recognised striker and unable to score, we somehow maintained a challenge for the play offs by effective defending. Finally, the disruptive effect of the January transfers and transfer rumour-mongering could have derailed us - but didn't. In my opinion that was due to the quiet, calm focus of our manager.
This season is already a success story and Garcia deserves great credit for that.
Agree with both of you
OG has been quietly getting on with the job from day 1.
I believe we have the basis for a concerted promotion push next year.
We may even do it this year.

I have a quiet smile when posters make extravagant claims about having supported the Albion for 30, 40 or 50 years and claim we are rubbish now!!!

These same people supported Albion through the dire 90's in a crumbling Goldstone, they all traveled to Gillingham ( strange that home gates were often less than 2000. They also claim to have been at the Withdean. Which although we had some very good seasons, more of them we were struggling living off loan signings.

I may be wrong but I believe the most vocal are JCL's.

If they really supported the Albion through our struggling years, they would not be so quick to **** the club as they do on a daily basis.

I have supported Albion since 1964, I appreciate the fact that this year we will finish at least in the 10th highest position in the club's history. And that we are still moving forward
UTA
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seagulls High[/bold] wrote: Oscar has been a good manager and Brighton can still achieve a play off place by beating Yeovil and the Reading result and others going Albion's way. Even if we do not Albion have had a good season. The Injuries in the early part of the Season with Mackail Smith, Andrew Croft (Out) and Will Hoskins and Orlandi who is still out, could have derailed the season. Full credit lies with Oscar and Nathan Jones for finding good replacements on loan such as Ward, and Keith Andrews and others. Also credit to Solley March, Rohan Ince and Jake Foster Caskey who filled in for key players in the first team. I hope that we can hold onto them all and offer contracts to Kuschak who has been outstanding and Ward and Keith Andrews. An injury free season could see Brighton finishing in the automatic or play off spots next time.[/p][/quote]I agree with this post. Our season is not defined by whether or not we reach the play offs. Remember - the Club versus Poyet saga was ongoing when Garcia took up the managerial role; the fall out of that event could easily have ruined our entire season, but for the focused calm of the manager; then when we were almost without a fit recognised striker and unable to score, we somehow maintained a challenge for the play offs by effective defending. Finally, the disruptive effect of the January transfers and transfer rumour-mongering could have derailed us - but didn't. In my opinion that was due to the quiet, calm focus of our manager. This season is already a success story and Garcia deserves great credit for that.[/p][/quote]Agree with both of you OG has been quietly getting on with the job from day 1. I believe we have the basis for a concerted promotion push next year. We may even do it this year. I have a quiet smile when posters make extravagant claims about having supported the Albion for 30, 40 or 50 years and claim we are rubbish now!!! These same people supported Albion through the dire 90's in a crumbling Goldstone, they all traveled to Gillingham ( strange that home gates were often less than 2000. They also claim to have been at the Withdean. Which although we had some very good seasons, more of them we were struggling living off loan signings. I may be wrong but I believe the most vocal are JCL's. If they really supported the Albion through our struggling years, they would not be so quick to **** the club as they do on a daily basis. I have supported Albion since 1964, I appreciate the fact that this year we will finish at least in the 10th highest position in the club's history. And that we are still moving forward UTA OldGull
  • Score: 7

1:03am Thu 24 Apr 14

championshipgull says...

OldGull wrote:
brightonup wrote:
Seagulls High wrote:
Oscar has been a good manager and Brighton can still achieve a play off place by beating Yeovil and the Reading result and others going Albion's way. Even if we do not Albion have had a good season. The Injuries in the early part of the Season with Mackail Smith, Andrew Croft (Out) and Will Hoskins and Orlandi who is still out, could have derailed the season. Full credit lies with Oscar and Nathan Jones for finding good replacements on loan such as Ward, and Keith Andrews and others. Also credit to Solley March, Rohan Ince and Jake Foster Caskey who filled in for key players in the first team. I hope that we can hold onto them all and offer contracts to Kuschak who has been outstanding and Ward and Keith Andrews. An injury free season could see Brighton finishing in the automatic or play off spots next time.
I agree with this post.
Our season is not defined by whether or not we reach the play offs.
Remember - the Club versus Poyet saga was ongoing when Garcia took up the managerial role; the fall out of that event could easily have ruined our entire season, but for the focused calm of the manager; then when we were almost without a fit recognised striker and unable to score, we somehow maintained a challenge for the play offs by effective defending. Finally, the disruptive effect of the January transfers and transfer rumour-mongering could have derailed us - but didn't. In my opinion that was due to the quiet, calm focus of our manager.
This season is already a success story and Garcia deserves great credit for that.
Agree with both of you
OG has been quietly getting on with the job from day 1.
I believe we have the basis for a concerted promotion push next year.
We may even do it this year.

I have a quiet smile when posters make extravagant claims about having supported the Albion for 30, 40 or 50 years and claim we are rubbish now!!!

These same people supported Albion through the dire 90's in a crumbling Goldstone, they all traveled to Gillingham ( strange that home gates were often less than 2000. They also claim to have been at the Withdean. Which although we had some very good seasons, more of them we were struggling living off loan signings.

I may be wrong but I believe the most vocal are JCL's.

If they really supported the Albion through our struggling years, they would not be so quick to **** the club as they do on a daily basis.

I have supported Albion since 1964, I appreciate the fact that this year we will finish at least in the 10th highest position in the club's history. And that we are still moving forward
UTA
3 great posts
I do wonder what (some) JCL’s expect at times. I wonder if they go to the Amex expecting the whole game to be like the highlights on MOTD. When I go, I am comparing the football to the lower leagues at Withdean. This can go some way to explaining a difference in opinion. (But still doesn’t explain claims of being a supporter for years and saying we are rubbish now ;-) I had the good fortune to start supporting the Albion just before our last rise to the top flight. I enjoyed it then and I am to enjoying it now. The difference this time is investment that has gone into infrastructure both at the Amex and at the new training ground. Never again will the club be threatened with oblivion and never again will I have to sit on a scaffolding stand with rain running down my back. We have never had it so good, on or off the pitch.

Night Guys
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seagulls High[/bold] wrote: Oscar has been a good manager and Brighton can still achieve a play off place by beating Yeovil and the Reading result and others going Albion's way. Even if we do not Albion have had a good season. The Injuries in the early part of the Season with Mackail Smith, Andrew Croft (Out) and Will Hoskins and Orlandi who is still out, could have derailed the season. Full credit lies with Oscar and Nathan Jones for finding good replacements on loan such as Ward, and Keith Andrews and others. Also credit to Solley March, Rohan Ince and Jake Foster Caskey who filled in for key players in the first team. I hope that we can hold onto them all and offer contracts to Kuschak who has been outstanding and Ward and Keith Andrews. An injury free season could see Brighton finishing in the automatic or play off spots next time.[/p][/quote]I agree with this post. Our season is not defined by whether or not we reach the play offs. Remember - the Club versus Poyet saga was ongoing when Garcia took up the managerial role; the fall out of that event could easily have ruined our entire season, but for the focused calm of the manager; then when we were almost without a fit recognised striker and unable to score, we somehow maintained a challenge for the play offs by effective defending. Finally, the disruptive effect of the January transfers and transfer rumour-mongering could have derailed us - but didn't. In my opinion that was due to the quiet, calm focus of our manager. This season is already a success story and Garcia deserves great credit for that.[/p][/quote]Agree with both of you OG has been quietly getting on with the job from day 1. I believe we have the basis for a concerted promotion push next year. We may even do it this year. I have a quiet smile when posters make extravagant claims about having supported the Albion for 30, 40 or 50 years and claim we are rubbish now!!! These same people supported Albion through the dire 90's in a crumbling Goldstone, they all traveled to Gillingham ( strange that home gates were often less than 2000. They also claim to have been at the Withdean. Which although we had some very good seasons, more of them we were struggling living off loan signings. I may be wrong but I believe the most vocal are JCL's. If they really supported the Albion through our struggling years, they would not be so quick to **** the club as they do on a daily basis. I have supported Albion since 1964, I appreciate the fact that this year we will finish at least in the 10th highest position in the club's history. And that we are still moving forward UTA[/p][/quote]3 great posts I do wonder what (some) JCL’s expect at times. I wonder if they go to the Amex expecting the whole game to be like the highlights on MOTD. When I go, I am comparing the football to the lower leagues at Withdean. This can go some way to explaining a difference in opinion. (But still doesn’t explain claims of being a supporter for years and saying we are rubbish now ;-) I had the good fortune to start supporting the Albion just before our last rise to the top flight. I enjoyed it then and I am to enjoying it now. The difference this time is investment that has gone into infrastructure both at the Amex and at the new training ground. Never again will the club be threatened with oblivion and never again will I have to sit on a scaffolding stand with rain running down my back. We have never had it so good, on or off the pitch. Night Guys championshipgull
  • Score: 5

5:54am Thu 24 Apr 14

Free money says...

championshipgull wrote:
OldGull wrote:
brightonup wrote:
Seagulls High wrote:
Oscar has been a good manager and Brighton can still achieve a play off place by beating Yeovil and the Reading result and others going Albion's way. Even if we do not Albion have had a good season. The Injuries in the early part of the Season with Mackail Smith, Andrew Croft (Out) and Will Hoskins and Orlandi who is still out, could have derailed the season. Full credit lies with Oscar and Nathan Jones for finding good replacements on loan such as Ward, and Keith Andrews and others. Also credit to Solley March, Rohan Ince and Jake Foster Caskey who filled in for key players in the first team. I hope that we can hold onto them all and offer contracts to Kuschak who has been outstanding and Ward and Keith Andrews. An injury free season could see Brighton finishing in the automatic or play off spots next time.
I agree with this post.
Our season is not defined by whether or not we reach the play offs.
Remember - the Club versus Poyet saga was ongoing when Garcia took up the managerial role; the fall out of that event could easily have ruined our entire season, but for the focused calm of the manager; then when we were almost without a fit recognised striker and unable to score, we somehow maintained a challenge for the play offs by effective defending. Finally, the disruptive effect of the January transfers and transfer rumour-mongering could have derailed us - but didn't. In my opinion that was due to the quiet, calm focus of our manager.
This season is already a success story and Garcia deserves great credit for that.
Agree with both of you
OG has been quietly getting on with the job from day 1.
I believe we have the basis for a concerted promotion push next year.
We may even do it this year.

I have a quiet smile when posters make extravagant claims about having supported the Albion for 30, 40 or 50 years and claim we are rubbish now!!!

These same people supported Albion through the dire 90's in a crumbling Goldstone, they all traveled to Gillingham ( strange that home gates were often less than 2000. They also claim to have been at the Withdean. Which although we had some very good seasons, more of them we were struggling living off loan signings.

I may be wrong but I believe the most vocal are JCL's.

If they really supported the Albion through our struggling years, they would not be so quick to **** the club as they do on a daily basis.

I have supported Albion since 1964, I appreciate the fact that this year we will finish at least in the 10th highest position in the club's history. And that we are still moving forward
UTA
3 great posts
I do wonder what (some) JCL’s expect at times. I wonder if they go to the Amex expecting the whole game to be like the highlights on MOTD. When I go, I am comparing the football to the lower leagues at Withdean. This can go some way to explaining a difference in opinion. (But still doesn’t explain claims of being a supporter for years and saying we are rubbish now ;-) I had the good fortune to start supporting the Albion just before our last rise to the top flight. I enjoyed it then and I am to enjoying it now. The difference this time is investment that has gone into infrastructure both at the Amex and at the new training ground. Never again will the club be threatened with oblivion and never again will I have to sit on a scaffolding stand with rain running down my back. We have never had it so good, on or off the pitch.

Night Guys
Thats right they did it for love lol ??? You ain't lived mate? Not one man in this world with millions gives millions for nothing my friend lol haha. If they did they wouldn't have it to play with in the first place.Yes the Goldstone was a Sh-t hole,and Withdean was a dump also.But many clubs have now changed hands and grounds.The football is pure dire and OG has no passion.Fans pay to see passion from their team not seats.
[quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seagulls High[/bold] wrote: Oscar has been a good manager and Brighton can still achieve a play off place by beating Yeovil and the Reading result and others going Albion's way. Even if we do not Albion have had a good season. The Injuries in the early part of the Season with Mackail Smith, Andrew Croft (Out) and Will Hoskins and Orlandi who is still out, could have derailed the season. Full credit lies with Oscar and Nathan Jones for finding good replacements on loan such as Ward, and Keith Andrews and others. Also credit to Solley March, Rohan Ince and Jake Foster Caskey who filled in for key players in the first team. I hope that we can hold onto them all and offer contracts to Kuschak who has been outstanding and Ward and Keith Andrews. An injury free season could see Brighton finishing in the automatic or play off spots next time.[/p][/quote]I agree with this post. Our season is not defined by whether or not we reach the play offs. Remember - the Club versus Poyet saga was ongoing when Garcia took up the managerial role; the fall out of that event could easily have ruined our entire season, but for the focused calm of the manager; then when we were almost without a fit recognised striker and unable to score, we somehow maintained a challenge for the play offs by effective defending. Finally, the disruptive effect of the January transfers and transfer rumour-mongering could have derailed us - but didn't. In my opinion that was due to the quiet, calm focus of our manager. This season is already a success story and Garcia deserves great credit for that.[/p][/quote]Agree with both of you OG has been quietly getting on with the job from day 1. I believe we have the basis for a concerted promotion push next year. We may even do it this year. I have a quiet smile when posters make extravagant claims about having supported the Albion for 30, 40 or 50 years and claim we are rubbish now!!! These same people supported Albion through the dire 90's in a crumbling Goldstone, they all traveled to Gillingham ( strange that home gates were often less than 2000. They also claim to have been at the Withdean. Which although we had some very good seasons, more of them we were struggling living off loan signings. I may be wrong but I believe the most vocal are JCL's. If they really supported the Albion through our struggling years, they would not be so quick to **** the club as they do on a daily basis. I have supported Albion since 1964, I appreciate the fact that this year we will finish at least in the 10th highest position in the club's history. And that we are still moving forward UTA[/p][/quote]3 great posts I do wonder what (some) JCL’s expect at times. I wonder if they go to the Amex expecting the whole game to be like the highlights on MOTD. When I go, I am comparing the football to the lower leagues at Withdean. This can go some way to explaining a difference in opinion. (But still doesn’t explain claims of being a supporter for years and saying we are rubbish now ;-) I had the good fortune to start supporting the Albion just before our last rise to the top flight. I enjoyed it then and I am to enjoying it now. The difference this time is investment that has gone into infrastructure both at the Amex and at the new training ground. Never again will the club be threatened with oblivion and never again will I have to sit on a scaffolding stand with rain running down my back. We have never had it so good, on or off the pitch. Night Guys[/p][/quote]Thats right they did it for love lol ??? You ain't lived mate? Not one man in this world with millions gives millions for nothing my friend lol haha. If they did they wouldn't have it to play with in the first place.Yes the Goldstone was a Sh-t hole,and Withdean was a dump also.But many clubs have now changed hands and grounds.The football is pure dire and OG has no passion.Fans pay to see passion from their team not seats. Free money
  • Score: -4

10:20am Thu 24 Apr 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Just to clear something up, re your comment "Not one man in this world with millions gives millions for nothing my friend" - I give you Bill Gates and JK Rowling, who have given away hundreds of millions, if not billions, between them.

As you were...
Just to clear something up, re your comment "Not one man in this world with millions gives millions for nothing my friend" - I give you Bill Gates and JK Rowling, who have given away hundreds of millions, if not billions, between them. As you were... Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 2

11:08am Thu 24 Apr 14

brightonup says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Just to clear something up, re your comment "Not one man in this world with millions gives millions for nothing my friend" - I give you Bill Gates and JK Rowling, who have given away hundreds of millions, if not billions, between them.

As you were...
Good point. The scum has no answer to that.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: Just to clear something up, re your comment "Not one man in this world with millions gives millions for nothing my friend" - I give you Bill Gates and JK Rowling, who have given away hundreds of millions, if not billions, between them. As you were...[/p][/quote]Good point. The scum has no answer to that. brightonup
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2:45pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Aldrington Halt says...

championshipgull wrote:
OldGull wrote:
brightonup wrote:
Seagulls High wrote:
Oscar has been a good manager and Brighton can still achieve a play off place by beating Yeovil and the Reading result and others going Albion's way. Even if we do not Albion have had a good season. The Injuries in the early part of the Season with Mackail Smith, Andrew Croft (Out) and Will Hoskins and Orlandi who is still out, could have derailed the season. Full credit lies with Oscar and Nathan Jones for finding good replacements on loan such as Ward, and Keith Andrews and others. Also credit to Solley March, Rohan Ince and Jake Foster Caskey who filled in for key players in the first team. I hope that we can hold onto them all and offer contracts to Kuschak who has been outstanding and Ward and Keith Andrews. An injury free season could see Brighton finishing in the automatic or play off spots next time.
I agree with this post.
Our season is not defined by whether or not we reach the play offs.
Remember - the Club versus Poyet saga was ongoing when Garcia took up the managerial role; the fall out of that event could easily have ruined our entire season, but for the focused calm of the manager; then when we were almost without a fit recognised striker and unable to score, we somehow maintained a challenge for the play offs by effective defending. Finally, the disruptive effect of the January transfers and transfer rumour-mongering could have derailed us - but didn't. In my opinion that was due to the quiet, calm focus of our manager.
This season is already a success story and Garcia deserves great credit for that.
Agree with both of you
OG has been quietly getting on with the job from day 1.
I believe we have the basis for a concerted promotion push next year.
We may even do it this year.

I have a quiet smile when posters make extravagant claims about having supported the Albion for 30, 40 or 50 years and claim we are rubbish now!!!

These same people supported Albion through the dire 90's in a crumbling Goldstone, they all traveled to Gillingham ( strange that home gates were often less than 2000. They also claim to have been at the Withdean. Which although we had some very good seasons, more of them we were struggling living off loan signings.

I may be wrong but I believe the most vocal are JCL's.

If they really supported the Albion through our struggling years, they would not be so quick to **** the club as they do on a daily basis.

I have supported Albion since 1964, I appreciate the fact that this year we will finish at least in the 10th highest position in the club's history. And that we are still moving forward
UTA
3 great posts
I do wonder what (some) JCL’s expect at times. I wonder if they go to the Amex expecting the whole game to be like the highlights on MOTD. When I go, I am comparing the football to the lower leagues at Withdean. This can go some way to explaining a difference in opinion. (But still doesn’t explain claims of being a supporter for years and saying we are rubbish now ;-) I had the good fortune to start supporting the Albion just before our last rise to the top flight. I enjoyed it then and I am to enjoying it now. The difference this time is investment that has gone into infrastructure both at the Amex and at the new training ground. Never again will the club be threatened with oblivion and never again will I have to sit on a scaffolding stand with rain running down my back. We have never had it so good, on or off the pitch.

Night Guys
Amen Championshipgull, Amen..
[quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seagulls High[/bold] wrote: Oscar has been a good manager and Brighton can still achieve a play off place by beating Yeovil and the Reading result and others going Albion's way. Even if we do not Albion have had a good season. The Injuries in the early part of the Season with Mackail Smith, Andrew Croft (Out) and Will Hoskins and Orlandi who is still out, could have derailed the season. Full credit lies with Oscar and Nathan Jones for finding good replacements on loan such as Ward, and Keith Andrews and others. Also credit to Solley March, Rohan Ince and Jake Foster Caskey who filled in for key players in the first team. I hope that we can hold onto them all and offer contracts to Kuschak who has been outstanding and Ward and Keith Andrews. An injury free season could see Brighton finishing in the automatic or play off spots next time.[/p][/quote]I agree with this post. Our season is not defined by whether or not we reach the play offs. Remember - the Club versus Poyet saga was ongoing when Garcia took up the managerial role; the fall out of that event could easily have ruined our entire season, but for the focused calm of the manager; then when we were almost without a fit recognised striker and unable to score, we somehow maintained a challenge for the play offs by effective defending. Finally, the disruptive effect of the January transfers and transfer rumour-mongering could have derailed us - but didn't. In my opinion that was due to the quiet, calm focus of our manager. This season is already a success story and Garcia deserves great credit for that.[/p][/quote]Agree with both of you OG has been quietly getting on with the job from day 1. I believe we have the basis for a concerted promotion push next year. We may even do it this year. I have a quiet smile when posters make extravagant claims about having supported the Albion for 30, 40 or 50 years and claim we are rubbish now!!! These same people supported Albion through the dire 90's in a crumbling Goldstone, they all traveled to Gillingham ( strange that home gates were often less than 2000. They also claim to have been at the Withdean. Which although we had some very good seasons, more of them we were struggling living off loan signings. I may be wrong but I believe the most vocal are JCL's. If they really supported the Albion through our struggling years, they would not be so quick to **** the club as they do on a daily basis. I have supported Albion since 1964, I appreciate the fact that this year we will finish at least in the 10th highest position in the club's history. And that we are still moving forward UTA[/p][/quote]3 great posts I do wonder what (some) JCL’s expect at times. I wonder if they go to the Amex expecting the whole game to be like the highlights on MOTD. When I go, I am comparing the football to the lower leagues at Withdean. This can go some way to explaining a difference in opinion. (But still doesn’t explain claims of being a supporter for years and saying we are rubbish now ;-) I had the good fortune to start supporting the Albion just before our last rise to the top flight. I enjoyed it then and I am to enjoying it now. The difference this time is investment that has gone into infrastructure both at the Amex and at the new training ground. Never again will the club be threatened with oblivion and never again will I have to sit on a scaffolding stand with rain running down my back. We have never had it so good, on or off the pitch. Night Guys[/p][/quote]Amen Championshipgull, Amen.. Aldrington Halt
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2:59pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Aldrington Halt says...

ringtone wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
fratsomrover wrote:
I apologise if this repeating something I posted earlier, but when Oscar says
"“For me it’s amazing to be fighting for this place at this stage"
“It’s amazing to be here and have a chance to get into the play-offs"

Yes it is amazing because we should be in a position where a top 6 place is already guaranteed. It's amazing that we haven't secured that place already. Just look at the number of home points dropped against inferior opposition
On the Blackpool match Oscar said
"We wanted to start brightly but we couldn't because Blackpool kept the ball and it was hard for us to get it back."

For Christs sake, what does he expect ? Isn't that part of the game, to stop your opposition from getting the ball. What did he expect, that they would keep giving it to us ?

Our tactics Oscar are to stop teams dictating how they want to play the game. Maybe playing a higher line, keeping pressure on their back four so that their keeper cant keep feeding the ball to the full backs and forcing him to kick it long just might improve our chances of gaining possession a little more often ?
I wrote last week that we had total control of our own destiny and that fortune would favor the brave (bold).
Was it really asking so much to be brave for the first 45 minutes on Monday, to take the game to the opposition, to strike first and really get them rocking. We had nothing to lose and everything to gain yet we went out with a whimper. How many shots on target in those first 45 mins ?
Now we have conceded our position to Reading and the blame lies with the strategist who defines how the team plays.
Well said.
It's a pity that Jeff Lomer and Aldrington Halt etc cannot evaluate evidence like you or MTBS. Their confidence in Garcia to take us forward is simply amazing considering what he has done so far, i.e. nothing! Clearly they are satisfied with under achievement.
His poor tactics and team selection have us scraping for a Play Off place when we should have wrapped this up long ago with the squad we have, yet they think we should be grateful and have had a wonderful season! It would suggest they are newcomers to watching football or have poor judgement.
Being an Albion supporter doesn't have to mean you leave your brain behind when you watch them.
(Freeloaders would say you have to have your own brain not someone else's. Where is he? I miss his amusing comments although I suspect he is posting under one or two non de plumes. Never understand why some on here get so angry with him and his like. At least the trolls provide much needed humour.)
I always liked you Claude, now i love you.

Jeff dormer and Aldringtons fault are why opposing fans cant sit with each other at games, ie you have to agree with them or else.
Now you're licking each others parts, it's like a troll appreciation society.. Give Oscar a 'clean' Championship season with pre-season training and his own choice of players, then form an opinion or alternatively you could carry on spouting your negative rubbish like as if you would have done better than a ex pro Barca player stepping in last minute, come on wakey wakey boyo! Shine on you crazy Seagulls and don't listen to these sadsacks!!
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: I apologise if this repeating something I posted earlier, but when Oscar says "“For me it’s amazing to be fighting for this place at this stage" “It’s amazing to be here and have a chance to get into the play-offs" Yes it is amazing because we should be in a position where a top 6 place is already guaranteed. It's amazing that we haven't secured that place already. Just look at the number of home points dropped against inferior opposition On the Blackpool match Oscar said "We wanted to start brightly but we couldn't because Blackpool kept the ball and it was hard for us to get it back." For Christs sake, what does he expect ? Isn't that part of the game, to stop your opposition from getting the ball. What did he expect, that they would keep giving it to us ? Our tactics Oscar are to stop teams dictating how they want to play the game. Maybe playing a higher line, keeping pressure on their back four so that their keeper cant keep feeding the ball to the full backs and forcing him to kick it long just might improve our chances of gaining possession a little more often ? I wrote last week that we had total control of our own destiny and that fortune would favor the brave (bold). Was it really asking so much to be brave for the first 45 minutes on Monday, to take the game to the opposition, to strike first and really get them rocking. We had nothing to lose and everything to gain yet we went out with a whimper. How many shots on target in those first 45 mins ? Now we have conceded our position to Reading and the blame lies with the strategist who defines how the team plays.[/p][/quote]Well said. It's a pity that Jeff Lomer and Aldrington Halt etc cannot evaluate evidence like you or MTBS. Their confidence in Garcia to take us forward is simply amazing considering what he has done so far, i.e. nothing! Clearly they are satisfied with under achievement. His poor tactics and team selection have us scraping for a Play Off place when we should have wrapped this up long ago with the squad we have, yet they think we should be grateful and have had a wonderful season! It would suggest they are newcomers to watching football or have poor judgement. Being an Albion supporter doesn't have to mean you leave your brain behind when you watch them. (Freeloaders would say you have to have your own brain not someone else's. Where is he? I miss his amusing comments although I suspect he is posting under one or two non de plumes. Never understand why some on here get so angry with him and his like. At least the trolls provide much needed humour.)[/p][/quote]I always liked you Claude, now i love you. Jeff dormer and Aldringtons fault are why opposing fans cant sit with each other at games, ie you have to agree with them or else.[/p][/quote]Now you're licking each others parts, it's like a troll appreciation society.. Give Oscar a 'clean' Championship season with pre-season training and his own choice of players, then form an opinion or alternatively you could carry on spouting your negative rubbish like as if you would have done better than a ex pro Barca player stepping in last minute, come on wakey wakey boyo! Shine on you crazy Seagulls and don't listen to these sadsacks!! Aldrington Halt
  • Score: 1

4:48pm Thu 24 Apr 14

barnieb says...

Shouldn't be in the position of relying on others to slip up but inconsistency and a woeful goals tally,only the bottom 6 teams have scored less than the Albion.No longer in our hands.Fully expecting Reading to finish the job against Donkey Caster away and already promoted Burnley at home.
Next season,massive clear out and break the bank for a striker who will give us 25 or 30 goals.
Shouldn't be in the position of relying on others to slip up but inconsistency and a woeful goals tally,only the bottom 6 teams have scored less than the Albion.No longer in our hands.Fully expecting Reading to finish the job against Donkey Caster away and already promoted Burnley at home. Next season,massive clear out and break the bank for a striker who will give us 25 or 30 goals. barnieb
  • Score: 1

9:36pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Free money says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Just to clear something up, re your comment "Not one man in this world with millions gives millions for nothing my friend" - I give you Bill Gates and JK Rowling, who have given away hundreds of millions, if not billions, between them.

As you were...
What in gods name has that got to do with football ha ????? Thats called charity.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: Just to clear something up, re your comment "Not one man in this world with millions gives millions for nothing my friend" - I give you Bill Gates and JK Rowling, who have given away hundreds of millions, if not billions, between them. As you were...[/p][/quote]What in gods name has that got to do with football ha ????? Thats called charity. Free money
  • Score: -1

9:40pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Free money says...

brightonup wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Just to clear something up, re your comment "Not one man in this world with millions gives millions for nothing my friend" - I give you Bill Gates and JK Rowling, who have given away hundreds of millions, if not billions, between them.

As you were...
Good point. The scum has no answer to that.
Who you calling scum you brain dead small minded child.How comes the Argus never remove you Mr,Dunk ha? What in gods name has that got to do with football ha?Its called charity. See i did have a anser sad man i just don't spend 24/7 on this site you sad little man with no real friends or life.
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: Just to clear something up, re your comment "Not one man in this world with millions gives millions for nothing my friend" - I give you Bill Gates and JK Rowling, who have given away hundreds of millions, if not billions, between them. As you were...[/p][/quote]Good point. The scum has no answer to that.[/p][/quote]Who you calling scum you brain dead small minded child.How comes the Argus never remove you Mr,Dunk ha? What in gods name has that got to do with football ha?Its called charity. See i did have a anser sad man i just don't spend 24/7 on this site you sad little man with no real friends or life. Free money
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10:02pm Thu 24 Apr 14

millsy135 says...

Oscar is amazed because he can't believe that a team with his negative, boring and turgid football could be in with a shout of the playoffs. Sooner the Spanish dullard goes the better!
Oscar is amazed because he can't believe that a team with his negative, boring and turgid football could be in with a shout of the playoffs. Sooner the Spanish dullard goes the better! millsy135
  • Score: -1

11:38pm Thu 24 Apr 14

OldGull says...

Free money wrote:
brightonup wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Just to clear something up, re your comment "Not one man in this world with millions gives millions for nothing my friend" - I give you Bill Gates and JK Rowling, who have given away hundreds of millions, if not billions, between them.

As you were...
Good point. The scum has no answer to that.
Who you calling scum you brain dead small minded child.How comes the Argus never remove you Mr,Dunk ha? What in gods name has that got to do with football ha?Its called charity. See i did have a anser sad man i just don't spend 24/7 on this site you sad little man with no real friends or life.
Dear oh dear
If you are going to rant and abuse people on such a regular basis
Please try and vary your insults just to make it more interesting.

At least when you change your name again please also change the abuse.
That way it may take us more than 10 secs to realise it's you.
[quote][p][bold]Free money[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: Just to clear something up, re your comment "Not one man in this world with millions gives millions for nothing my friend" - I give you Bill Gates and JK Rowling, who have given away hundreds of millions, if not billions, between them. As you were...[/p][/quote]Good point. The scum has no answer to that.[/p][/quote]Who you calling scum you brain dead small minded child.How comes the Argus never remove you Mr,Dunk ha? What in gods name has that got to do with football ha?Its called charity. See i did have a anser sad man i just don't spend 24/7 on this site you sad little man with no real friends or life.[/p][/quote]Dear oh dear If you are going to rant and abuse people on such a regular basis Please try and vary your insults just to make it more interesting. At least when you change your name again please also change the abuse. That way it may take us more than 10 secs to realise it's you. OldGull
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