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Greer: Albion have done well to stay in race for the play-offs

The Argus: Gordon Greer Gordon Greer

GORDON Greer insists it will not be a failure if Albion miss out on the play-offs.

The Seagulls still have a strong chance of finishing sixth and can put the pressure back on Reading by beating Yeovil at the Amex tonight.

What ever happens in the last two games Greer agrees with head coach Oscar Garcia, who told The Argus on Wednesday it is amazing Albion are in the race.

The skipper said: “I think it is, considering where we were at the start of pre-season with no manager, with half a squad. To be where we are now with the teams we are competing alongside, who had good pre-seasons, had managers in place, and have got bigger budgets and bigger squads.

“I think that’s the main thing for us, we’ve had key players out at bad times, but there are no excuses. We are still amongst it. We should have won the game the other day (against Blackpool) and we will be giving it everything against Yeovil.”

Monday’s 1-1 draw at home to Blackpool has left Albion playing catch-up again, a point and a place outside the play-off zone, after finishing fourth under former boss Gus Poyet last season.

Greer, who makes his 150th league start for the club tonight, added: “I know a lot of people might think it’s a failure, considering where we came last year, but there was a lot of turmoil in the club pre-season with everything that happened with Gus and then we had the manager and then there was a transfer thing where we couldn’t sign players.

“In the whole of pre-season we were playing with a lot of the development squad and because of that you’ve seen the likes of Rohan Ince and Solly March break into the first team.

“There were a lot of things that happened pre-season but there are no excuses that we didn’t beat Blackpool the other day. It was a massive game for us and we gave it everything but it just wasn’t to be. We didn’t play well enough, so hopefully we can get three points tonight.”

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6:57am Fri 25 Apr 14

Eddy B says...

It would be disappointing after being so close but I do feel the Blackpool game was the significant one. I know people say it's the 46 games overall that count but that's only partly true - in this league everyone is so inconsistent that it only takes a decent run at the end to sneak in. Therefore the Blackpool draw was probably more important than previous under performances against lowly teams like Barnsley, as now we have no time to recover the lost ground.

Greer is right about alot of handicaps we've had this season so to finish anywhere in the top 10 would be a pretty good result and probalby over flattering on how we've been playing. We have lost our best player (Bridcutt) and probably two of our most creative players (Buckley and Orlandi) for most of the season.

However I wouldn't particularly agree about the size of the squad and the budget being under par (loans and immediate replacements for injured players has been evident), and don't really understand why this should be with the crowds we get anyway.

But the season does remain a disappointment in terms of progress towards the 5 year premiership plan as I feel we have gone backwards in style of play and general excitement at the Amex where goals and creative free flownig passing football were a bit more evident under Gus. Let's hope it is a temporary blip, or consolidation as they like to say.
It would be disappointing after being so close but I do feel the Blackpool game was the significant one. I know people say it's the 46 games overall that count but that's only partly true - in this league everyone is so inconsistent that it only takes a decent run at the end to sneak in. Therefore the Blackpool draw was probably more important than previous under performances against lowly teams like Barnsley, as now we have no time to recover the lost ground. Greer is right about alot of handicaps we've had this season so to finish anywhere in the top 10 would be a pretty good result and probalby over flattering on how we've been playing. We have lost our best player (Bridcutt) and probably two of our most creative players (Buckley and Orlandi) for most of the season. However I wouldn't particularly agree about the size of the squad and the budget being under par (loans and immediate replacements for injured players has been evident), and don't really understand why this should be with the crowds we get anyway. But the season does remain a disappointment in terms of progress towards the 5 year premiership plan as I feel we have gone backwards in style of play and general excitement at the Amex where goals and creative free flownig passing football were a bit more evident under Gus. Let's hope it is a temporary blip, or consolidation as they like to say. Eddy B
  • Score: 10

7:18am Fri 25 Apr 14

rusty dave says...

"Then there was the transfer thing where we couldn't sign players" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now have I missed something or is this a new behind the scenes revelation from last summer !!??. Could someone enlighten me !??.
"Then there was the transfer thing where we couldn't sign players" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now have I missed something or is this a new behind the scenes revelation from last summer !!??. Could someone enlighten me !??. rusty dave
  • Score: 9

7:23am Fri 25 Apr 14

JeffLomer says...

Gordon is 100% correct no manager for pre season none off his own players he got to bring in at the beginning, players out off contracts not knowing if they were being let go or being given new contracts, players out injured last season going in to this season and long term injuries to some this season ie croft and Orlandi, loan players brought in Stephens been great for us, Andrews not so great, didn't work out with two strikers for reason they usually were on bench for 80mins, yes we could do with a Ross mcormack banging in 30 goals for us, have we had a bad season i don't think so!!
Fighting relegation is a bad season lads!!!!
Up the Albion!!!!
Gordon is 100% correct no manager for pre season none off his own players he got to bring in at the beginning, players out off contracts not knowing if they were being let go or being given new contracts, players out injured last season going in to this season and long term injuries to some this season ie croft and Orlandi, loan players brought in Stephens been great for us, Andrews not so great, didn't work out with two strikers for reason they usually were on bench for 80mins, yes we could do with a Ross mcormack banging in 30 goals for us, have we had a bad season i don't think so!! Fighting relegation is a bad season lads!!!! Up the Albion!!!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 14

7:26am Fri 25 Apr 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Eddy B wrote:
It would be disappointing after being so close but I do feel the Blackpool game was the significant one. I know people say it's the 46 games overall that count but that's only partly true - in this league everyone is so inconsistent that it only takes a decent run at the end to sneak in. Therefore the Blackpool draw was probably more important than previous under performances against lowly teams like Barnsley, as now we have no time to recover the lost ground.

Greer is right about alot of handicaps we've had this season so to finish anywhere in the top 10 would be a pretty good result and probalby over flattering on how we've been playing. We have lost our best player (Bridcutt) and probably two of our most creative players (Buckley and Orlandi) for most of the season.

However I wouldn't particularly agree about the size of the squad and the budget being under par (loans and immediate replacements for injured players has been evident), and don't really understand why this should be with the crowds we get anyway.

But the season does remain a disappointment in terms of progress towards the 5 year premiership plan as I feel we have gone backwards in style of play and general excitement at the Amex where goals and creative free flownig passing football were a bit more evident under Gus. Let's hope it is a temporary blip, or consolidation as they like to say.
Don't agree Eddy. The Blackpool game appears to be the most significant to you because it was the most recent? Throughout the whole season, we've left behind the same number of points, or more in some cases more, in games that we should have done better in.
Sure, all clubs can point to that through a long season, but the fact we've had - I'd suggest - more than most, is a sign we're not quite good enough yet.
And for me the reason for that is the turmoil Greer points to.
By the time we'd overcome Gus's departure and Oscar's arrival, the main transfer window of the year was closed and we've only had the loan market and a pseudo window in January in which to strengthen.
Simply put, in my opinion, you can't play catch up in that way anymore. The size of the squad may be ok, but it's quality isn't and that's the result of playing catch up. I've said before, we have a competitive team, but not a competitive squad and over 46 games, you need the latter.
I'll be thrilled if we make into the top 6, but for me, it's more likely OG will be using the knowledge of this season to prepare for the next - and I'm one of those who's backing him to do a decent job.
[quote][p][bold]Eddy B[/bold] wrote: It would be disappointing after being so close but I do feel the Blackpool game was the significant one. I know people say it's the 46 games overall that count but that's only partly true - in this league everyone is so inconsistent that it only takes a decent run at the end to sneak in. Therefore the Blackpool draw was probably more important than previous under performances against lowly teams like Barnsley, as now we have no time to recover the lost ground. Greer is right about alot of handicaps we've had this season so to finish anywhere in the top 10 would be a pretty good result and probalby over flattering on how we've been playing. We have lost our best player (Bridcutt) and probably two of our most creative players (Buckley and Orlandi) for most of the season. However I wouldn't particularly agree about the size of the squad and the budget being under par (loans and immediate replacements for injured players has been evident), and don't really understand why this should be with the crowds we get anyway. But the season does remain a disappointment in terms of progress towards the 5 year premiership plan as I feel we have gone backwards in style of play and general excitement at the Amex where goals and creative free flownig passing football were a bit more evident under Gus. Let's hope it is a temporary blip, or consolidation as they like to say.[/p][/quote]Don't agree Eddy. The Blackpool game appears to be the most significant to you because it was the most recent? Throughout the whole season, we've left behind the same number of points, or more in some cases more, in games that we should have done better in. Sure, all clubs can point to that through a long season, but the fact we've had - I'd suggest - more than most, is a sign we're not quite good enough yet. And for me the reason for that is the turmoil Greer points to. By the time we'd overcome Gus's departure and Oscar's arrival, the main transfer window of the year was closed and we've only had the loan market and a pseudo window in January in which to strengthen. Simply put, in my opinion, you can't play catch up in that way anymore. The size of the squad may be ok, but it's quality isn't and that's the result of playing catch up. I've said before, we have a competitive team, but not a competitive squad and over 46 games, you need the latter. I'll be thrilled if we make into the top 6, but for me, it's more likely OG will be using the knowledge of this season to prepare for the next - and I'm one of those who's backing him to do a decent job. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 9

7:27am Fri 25 Apr 14

Albion In Staffs says...

rusty dave wrote:
"Then there was the transfer thing where we couldn't sign players" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now have I missed something or is this a new behind the scenes revelation from last summer !!??. Could someone enlighten me !??.
Me too....???
[quote][p][bold]rusty dave[/bold] wrote: "Then there was the transfer thing where we couldn't sign players" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now have I missed something or is this a new behind the scenes revelation from last summer !!??. Could someone enlighten me !??.[/p][/quote]Me too....??? Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 4

7:50am Fri 25 Apr 14

keswick says...

rusty dave wrote:
"Then there was the transfer thing where we couldn't sign players" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now have I missed something or is this a new behind the scenes revelation from last summer !!??. Could someone enlighten me !??.
This is the part of the article that also caught my eye. It would appear that something happened that for whatever reason is not in the public domain. However for me the biggest disappointment has been in the style of play in the majority of home matches and I think that this has filtered through to the crowd which appears to have been quieter than in previous seasons. Against Charlton we started with more zip about us and that immediately lifted the crowd. More of that tonight please.
[quote][p][bold]rusty dave[/bold] wrote: "Then there was the transfer thing where we couldn't sign players" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now have I missed something or is this a new behind the scenes revelation from last summer !!??. Could someone enlighten me !??.[/p][/quote]This is the part of the article that also caught my eye. It would appear that something happened that for whatever reason is not in the public domain. However for me the biggest disappointment has been in the style of play in the majority of home matches and I think that this has filtered through to the crowd which appears to have been quieter than in previous seasons. Against Charlton we started with more zip about us and that immediately lifted the crowd. More of that tonight please. keswick
  • Score: 8

7:59am Fri 25 Apr 14

JeffLomer says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Eddy B wrote:
It would be disappointing after being so close but I do feel the Blackpool game was the significant one. I know people say it's the 46 games overall that count but that's only partly true - in this league everyone is so inconsistent that it only takes a decent run at the end to sneak in. Therefore the Blackpool draw was probably more important than previous under performances against lowly teams like Barnsley, as now we have no time to recover the lost ground.

Greer is right about alot of handicaps we've had this season so to finish anywhere in the top 10 would be a pretty good result and probalby over flattering on how we've been playing. We have lost our best player (Bridcutt) and probably two of our most creative players (Buckley and Orlandi) for most of the season.

However I wouldn't particularly agree about the size of the squad and the budget being under par (loans and immediate replacements for injured players has been evident), and don't really understand why this should be with the crowds we get anyway.

But the season does remain a disappointment in terms of progress towards the 5 year premiership plan as I feel we have gone backwards in style of play and general excitement at the Amex where goals and creative free flownig passing football were a bit more evident under Gus. Let's hope it is a temporary blip, or consolidation as they like to say.
Don't agree Eddy. The Blackpool game appears to be the most significant to you because it was the most recent? Throughout the whole season, we've left behind the same number of points, or more in some cases more, in games that we should have done better in.
Sure, all clubs can point to that through a long season, but the fact we've had - I'd suggest - more than most, is a sign we're not quite good enough yet.
And for me the reason for that is the turmoil Greer points to.
By the time we'd overcome Gus's departure and Oscar's arrival, the main transfer window of the year was closed and we've only had the loan market and a pseudo window in January in which to strengthen.
Simply put, in my opinion, you can't play catch up in that way anymore. The size of the squad may be ok, but it's quality isn't and that's the result of playing catch up. I've said before, we have a competitive team, but not a competitive squad and over 46 games, you need the latter.
I'll be thrilled if we make into the top 6, but for me, it's more likely OG will be using the knowledge of this season to prepare for the next - and I'm one of those who's backing him to do a decent job.
Albion im staffs
Good post
Blackpool comment if were losing the game then got a 90th min equalizer I do honestly believe some on here would off still off moaned about it, I was at Blackburn away when we got a late goal to draw nobody moaned then, point is a point!!
Up the Albion!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eddy B[/bold] wrote: It would be disappointing after being so close but I do feel the Blackpool game was the significant one. I know people say it's the 46 games overall that count but that's only partly true - in this league everyone is so inconsistent that it only takes a decent run at the end to sneak in. Therefore the Blackpool draw was probably more important than previous under performances against lowly teams like Barnsley, as now we have no time to recover the lost ground. Greer is right about alot of handicaps we've had this season so to finish anywhere in the top 10 would be a pretty good result and probalby over flattering on how we've been playing. We have lost our best player (Bridcutt) and probably two of our most creative players (Buckley and Orlandi) for most of the season. However I wouldn't particularly agree about the size of the squad and the budget being under par (loans and immediate replacements for injured players has been evident), and don't really understand why this should be with the crowds we get anyway. But the season does remain a disappointment in terms of progress towards the 5 year premiership plan as I feel we have gone backwards in style of play and general excitement at the Amex where goals and creative free flownig passing football were a bit more evident under Gus. Let's hope it is a temporary blip, or consolidation as they like to say.[/p][/quote]Don't agree Eddy. The Blackpool game appears to be the most significant to you because it was the most recent? Throughout the whole season, we've left behind the same number of points, or more in some cases more, in games that we should have done better in. Sure, all clubs can point to that through a long season, but the fact we've had - I'd suggest - more than most, is a sign we're not quite good enough yet. And for me the reason for that is the turmoil Greer points to. By the time we'd overcome Gus's departure and Oscar's arrival, the main transfer window of the year was closed and we've only had the loan market and a pseudo window in January in which to strengthen. Simply put, in my opinion, you can't play catch up in that way anymore. The size of the squad may be ok, but it's quality isn't and that's the result of playing catch up. I've said before, we have a competitive team, but not a competitive squad and over 46 games, you need the latter. I'll be thrilled if we make into the top 6, but for me, it's more likely OG will be using the knowledge of this season to prepare for the next - and I'm one of those who's backing him to do a decent job.[/p][/quote]Albion im staffs Good post Blackpool comment if were losing the game then got a 90th min equalizer I do honestly believe some on here would off still off moaned about it, I was at Blackburn away when we got a late goal to draw nobody moaned then, point is a point!! Up the Albion!!!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 1

8:12am Fri 25 Apr 14

Albion In Staffs says...

keswick wrote:
rusty dave wrote:
"Then there was the transfer thing where we couldn't sign players" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now have I missed something or is this a new behind the scenes revelation from last summer !!??. Could someone enlighten me !??.
This is the part of the article that also caught my eye. It would appear that something happened that for whatever reason is not in the public domain. However for me the biggest disappointment has been in the style of play in the majority of home matches and I think that this has filtered through to the crowd which appears to have been quieter than in previous seasons. Against Charlton we started with more zip about us and that immediately lifted the crowd. More of that tonight please.
Agree on the transfer line.
Perhaps it's a story they're aware of that's been intentionally 'slipped in' via Greer's comments to open up a can of worms they knew was on the shelf?
Then again, I could just be making 2 + 2 into 7.....
[quote][p][bold]keswick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rusty dave[/bold] wrote: "Then there was the transfer thing where we couldn't sign players" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now have I missed something or is this a new behind the scenes revelation from last summer !!??. Could someone enlighten me !??.[/p][/quote]This is the part of the article that also caught my eye. It would appear that something happened that for whatever reason is not in the public domain. However for me the biggest disappointment has been in the style of play in the majority of home matches and I think that this has filtered through to the crowd which appears to have been quieter than in previous seasons. Against Charlton we started with more zip about us and that immediately lifted the crowd. More of that tonight please.[/p][/quote]Agree on the transfer line. Perhaps it's a story they're aware of that's been intentionally 'slipped in' via Greer's comments to open up a can of worms they knew was on the shelf? Then again, I could just be making 2 + 2 into 7..... Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 0

8:16am Fri 25 Apr 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

Agree. All the moaners on here think we should win every game.I suppose if we did they would have something else to moan about!!
Agree. All the moaners on here think we should win every game.I suppose if we did they would have something else to moan about!! SeagullOverSelsey
  • Score: 2

8:22am Fri 25 Apr 14

Steveg1958 says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
keswick wrote:
rusty dave wrote:
"Then there was the transfer thing where we couldn't sign players" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now have I missed something or is this a new behind the scenes revelation from last summer !!??. Could someone enlighten me !??.
This is the part of the article that also caught my eye. It would appear that something happened that for whatever reason is not in the public domain. However for me the biggest disappointment has been in the style of play in the majority of home matches and I think that this has filtered through to the crowd which appears to have been quieter than in previous seasons. Against Charlton we started with more zip about us and that immediately lifted the crowd. More of that tonight please.
Agree on the transfer line.
Perhaps it's a story they're aware of that's been intentionally 'slipped in' via Greer's comments to open up a can of worms they knew was on the shelf?
Then again, I could just be making 2 + 2 into 7.....
Lets hope that the club don't suffer similar transfer problems this summer !, perhaps those that govern these things at the club, might consider a bit more transparency when it comes to telling the fans things, after all we do pay a fair proportion of their wages.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keswick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rusty dave[/bold] wrote: "Then there was the transfer thing where we couldn't sign players" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now have I missed something or is this a new behind the scenes revelation from last summer !!??. Could someone enlighten me !??.[/p][/quote]This is the part of the article that also caught my eye. It would appear that something happened that for whatever reason is not in the public domain. However for me the biggest disappointment has been in the style of play in the majority of home matches and I think that this has filtered through to the crowd which appears to have been quieter than in previous seasons. Against Charlton we started with more zip about us and that immediately lifted the crowd. More of that tonight please.[/p][/quote]Agree on the transfer line. Perhaps it's a story they're aware of that's been intentionally 'slipped in' via Greer's comments to open up a can of worms they knew was on the shelf? Then again, I could just be making 2 + 2 into 7.....[/p][/quote]Lets hope that the club don't suffer similar transfer problems this summer !, perhaps those that govern these things at the club, might consider a bit more transparency when it comes to telling the fans things, after all we do pay a fair proportion of their wages. Steveg1958
  • Score: 0

8:30am Fri 25 Apr 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Steveg1958 wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
keswick wrote:
rusty dave wrote:
"Then there was the transfer thing where we couldn't sign players" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now have I missed something or is this a new behind the scenes revelation from last summer !!??. Could someone enlighten me !??.
This is the part of the article that also caught my eye. It would appear that something happened that for whatever reason is not in the public domain. However for me the biggest disappointment has been in the style of play in the majority of home matches and I think that this has filtered through to the crowd which appears to have been quieter than in previous seasons. Against Charlton we started with more zip about us and that immediately lifted the crowd. More of that tonight please.
Agree on the transfer line.
Perhaps it's a story they're aware of that's been intentionally 'slipped in' via Greer's comments to open up a can of worms they knew was on the shelf?
Then again, I could just be making 2 + 2 into 7.....
Lets hope that the club don't suffer similar transfer problems this summer !, perhaps those that govern these things at the club, might consider a bit more transparency when it comes to telling the fans things, after all we do pay a fair proportion of their wages.
In fairness to the club, I think they ARE as transparent as they can be, it's just that as fans, we're selective with what we care to remember. While I won't try and make a boring list here, I can think of a host of occasions when fans have said that we; 'should be told what's going on' when in fact, we have!
But because it's not agreeable to them, it's convenient to forget. (The Paul Barber web chat included much in that category)
However, the transfer line in Greer's comments IS intriguing and perhaps this is one they considered as being better left unsaid. In which case.... oops.
[quote][p][bold]Steveg1958[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keswick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rusty dave[/bold] wrote: "Then there was the transfer thing where we couldn't sign players" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now have I missed something or is this a new behind the scenes revelation from last summer !!??. Could someone enlighten me !??.[/p][/quote]This is the part of the article that also caught my eye. It would appear that something happened that for whatever reason is not in the public domain. However for me the biggest disappointment has been in the style of play in the majority of home matches and I think that this has filtered through to the crowd which appears to have been quieter than in previous seasons. Against Charlton we started with more zip about us and that immediately lifted the crowd. More of that tonight please.[/p][/quote]Agree on the transfer line. Perhaps it's a story they're aware of that's been intentionally 'slipped in' via Greer's comments to open up a can of worms they knew was on the shelf? Then again, I could just be making 2 + 2 into 7.....[/p][/quote]Lets hope that the club don't suffer similar transfer problems this summer !, perhaps those that govern these things at the club, might consider a bit more transparency when it comes to telling the fans things, after all we do pay a fair proportion of their wages.[/p][/quote]In fairness to the club, I think they ARE as transparent as they can be, it's just that as fans, we're selective with what we care to remember. While I won't try and make a boring list here, I can think of a host of occasions when fans have said that we; 'should be told what's going on' when in fact, we have! But because it's not agreeable to them, it's convenient to forget. (The Paul Barber web chat included much in that category) However, the transfer line in Greer's comments IS intriguing and perhaps this is one they considered as being better left unsaid. In which case.... oops. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 5

8:48am Fri 25 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Steveg1958 wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
keswick wrote:
rusty dave wrote:
"Then there was the transfer thing where we couldn't sign players" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now have I missed something or is this a new behind the scenes revelation from last summer !!??. Could someone enlighten me !??.
This is the part of the article that also caught my eye. It would appear that something happened that for whatever reason is not in the public domain. However for me the biggest disappointment has been in the style of play in the majority of home matches and I think that this has filtered through to the crowd which appears to have been quieter than in previous seasons. Against Charlton we started with more zip about us and that immediately lifted the crowd. More of that tonight please.
Agree on the transfer line.
Perhaps it's a story they're aware of that's been intentionally 'slipped in' via Greer's comments to open up a can of worms they knew was on the shelf?
Then again, I could just be making 2 + 2 into 7.....
Lets hope that the club don't suffer similar transfer problems this summer !, perhaps those that govern these things at the club, might consider a bit more transparency when it comes to telling the fans things, after all we do pay a fair proportion of their wages.
In fairness to the club, I think they ARE as transparent as they can be, it's just that as fans, we're selective with what we care to remember. While I won't try and make a boring list here, I can think of a host of occasions when fans have said that we; 'should be told what's going on' when in fact, we have!
But because it's not agreeable to them, it's convenient to forget. (The Paul Barber web chat included much in that category)
However, the transfer line in Greer's comments IS intriguing and perhaps this is one they considered as being better left unsaid. In which case.... oops.
If you add the comment to others made after Barnes and bridcutt left ie we need more players or something like that, then we had OG making comment about transfer dealings, I have heard a couple people say OG offered his resignation around this time? We then brought in Stephens and Jessie ,, I doubt anyone will know
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steveg1958[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keswick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rusty dave[/bold] wrote: "Then there was the transfer thing where we couldn't sign players" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now have I missed something or is this a new behind the scenes revelation from last summer !!??. Could someone enlighten me !??.[/p][/quote]This is the part of the article that also caught my eye. It would appear that something happened that for whatever reason is not in the public domain. However for me the biggest disappointment has been in the style of play in the majority of home matches and I think that this has filtered through to the crowd which appears to have been quieter than in previous seasons. Against Charlton we started with more zip about us and that immediately lifted the crowd. More of that tonight please.[/p][/quote]Agree on the transfer line. Perhaps it's a story they're aware of that's been intentionally 'slipped in' via Greer's comments to open up a can of worms they knew was on the shelf? Then again, I could just be making 2 + 2 into 7.....[/p][/quote]Lets hope that the club don't suffer similar transfer problems this summer !, perhaps those that govern these things at the club, might consider a bit more transparency when it comes to telling the fans things, after all we do pay a fair proportion of their wages.[/p][/quote]In fairness to the club, I think they ARE as transparent as they can be, it's just that as fans, we're selective with what we care to remember. While I won't try and make a boring list here, I can think of a host of occasions when fans have said that we; 'should be told what's going on' when in fact, we have! But because it's not agreeable to them, it's convenient to forget. (The Paul Barber web chat included much in that category) However, the transfer line in Greer's comments IS intriguing and perhaps this is one they considered as being better left unsaid. In which case.... oops.[/p][/quote]If you add the comment to others made after Barnes and bridcutt left ie we need more players or something like that, then we had OG making comment about transfer dealings, I have heard a couple people say OG offered his resignation around this time? We then brought in Stephens and Jessie ,, I doubt anyone will know mark by the sea
  • Score: 0

9:15am Fri 25 Apr 14

Claude Back says...

It might have been a policy of the Club to which Gordon refers but it could be simply that we couldn't sign the players we wanted. I think the latter is more likely on the balance of probabilities.
It might have been a policy of the Club to which Gordon refers but it could be simply that we couldn't sign the players we wanted. I think the latter is more likely on the balance of probabilities. Claude Back
  • Score: 5

9:27am Fri 25 Apr 14

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

Claude Back wrote:
It might have been a policy of the Club to which Gordon refers but it could be simply that we couldn't sign the players we wanted. I think the latter is more likely on the balance of probabilities.
I heard their pen ran out of ink...
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: It might have been a policy of the Club to which Gordon refers but it could be simply that we couldn't sign the players we wanted. I think the latter is more likely on the balance of probabilities.[/p][/quote]I heard their pen ran out of ink... Willie, Willie Irvine
  • Score: 2

9:32am Fri 25 Apr 14

Piglet1 says...

Claude Back wrote:
It might have been a policy of the Club to which Gordon refers but it could be simply that we couldn't sign the players we wanted. I think the latter is more likely on the balance of probabilities.
Far the most likely scenario.
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: It might have been a policy of the Club to which Gordon refers but it could be simply that we couldn't sign the players we wanted. I think the latter is more likely on the balance of probabilities.[/p][/quote]Far the most likely scenario. Piglet1
  • Score: 2

9:32am Fri 25 Apr 14

Eddy B says...

Albion in staffs et al, I know what you mean, the most recent games are always most vivid in the memory and of course there were dropped points earlier in the season, but I still think that unless you are in the running for the top two places it’s all about form at the back end of the season that counts for a play off place and progressing through the play offs (Palace probably being an exception last year). It just seems a point now is worth more than one at the start of the season where you can lose 10 on the trot and still not be out of it. Hence I was more disappointed after Blackpool than Barnsley.
It is a bit like a marathon race where you pace yourself and hopefully time your run at the end (like we did last season). It is quite hard making all the running from the front and being in good form all season (look at the premiership – Arsenal have fallen away, Chelsea have lost 3 disastrous matches in quick succession, Liverpool have won 11 on the trot).
I’m not saying that we should necessarily beat all the lowly teams – some you win, some you lose – conversely to some poor results against lowly teams we’ve had cracking results against the top teams – Leicester, QPR etc. So although fans focus on the dropped points they forget about the bonus points against teams we didn’t expect to beat. Does it even out over a season – probably usually?
Albion in staffs et al, I know what you mean, the most recent games are always most vivid in the memory and of course there were dropped points earlier in the season, but I still think that unless you are in the running for the top two places it’s all about form at the back end of the season that counts for a play off place and progressing through the play offs (Palace probably being an exception last year). It just seems a point now is worth more than one at the start of the season where you can lose 10 on the trot and still not be out of it. Hence I was more disappointed after Blackpool than Barnsley. It is a bit like a marathon race where you pace yourself and hopefully time your run at the end (like we did last season). It is quite hard making all the running from the front and being in good form all season (look at the premiership – Arsenal have fallen away, Chelsea have lost 3 disastrous matches in quick succession, Liverpool have won 11 on the trot). I’m not saying that we should necessarily beat all the lowly teams – some you win, some you lose – conversely to some poor results against lowly teams we’ve had cracking results against the top teams – Leicester, QPR etc. So although fans focus on the dropped points they forget about the bonus points against teams we didn’t expect to beat. Does it even out over a season – probably usually? Eddy B
  • Score: 2

9:36am Fri 25 Apr 14

Never_Wrong says...

Yeah, you've done enough Gordon. Congratulations.
Yeah, you've done enough Gordon. Congratulations. Never_Wrong
  • Score: -2

9:37am Fri 25 Apr 14

pte says...

rusty dave wrote:
"Then there was the transfer thing where we couldn't sign players" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now have I missed something or is this a new behind the scenes revelation from last summer !!??. Could someone enlighten me !??.
I noticed that.
Wonder how that passed the club censor. The "transfer thing" was it a Barber thing or a Tony thing?
Gordon you are a naughty boy
[quote][p][bold]rusty dave[/bold] wrote: "Then there was the transfer thing where we couldn't sign players" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now have I missed something or is this a new behind the scenes revelation from last summer !!??. Could someone enlighten me !??.[/p][/quote]I noticed that. Wonder how that passed the club censor. The "transfer thing" was it a Barber thing or a Tony thing? Gordon you are a naughty boy pte
  • Score: 0

9:42am Fri 25 Apr 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Eddy B wrote:
It would be disappointing after being so close but I do feel the Blackpool game was the significant one. I know people say it's the 46 games overall that count but that's only partly true - in this league everyone is so inconsistent that it only takes a decent run at the end to sneak in. Therefore the Blackpool draw was probably more important than previous under performances against lowly teams like Barnsley, as now we have no time to recover the lost ground.

Greer is right about alot of handicaps we've had this season so to finish anywhere in the top 10 would be a pretty good result and probalby over flattering on how we've been playing. We have lost our best player (Bridcutt) and probably two of our most creative players (Buckley and Orlandi) for most of the season.

However I wouldn't particularly agree about the size of the squad and the budget being under par (loans and immediate replacements for injured players has been evident), and don't really understand why this should be with the crowds we get anyway.

But the season does remain a disappointment in terms of progress towards the 5 year premiership plan as I feel we have gone backwards in style of play and general excitement at the Amex where goals and creative free flownig passing football were a bit more evident under Gus. Let's hope it is a temporary blip, or consolidation as they like to say.
If you're going to pick out important matches then it's not the ones against the bottom teams, it's those against our rivals that matter. And in that case I'd say the points we dropped against Reading, Ipswich and Notts Forest were the most damaging.
[quote][p][bold]Eddy B[/bold] wrote: It would be disappointing after being so close but I do feel the Blackpool game was the significant one. I know people say it's the 46 games overall that count but that's only partly true - in this league everyone is so inconsistent that it only takes a decent run at the end to sneak in. Therefore the Blackpool draw was probably more important than previous under performances against lowly teams like Barnsley, as now we have no time to recover the lost ground. Greer is right about alot of handicaps we've had this season so to finish anywhere in the top 10 would be a pretty good result and probalby over flattering on how we've been playing. We have lost our best player (Bridcutt) and probably two of our most creative players (Buckley and Orlandi) for most of the season. However I wouldn't particularly agree about the size of the squad and the budget being under par (loans and immediate replacements for injured players has been evident), and don't really understand why this should be with the crowds we get anyway. But the season does remain a disappointment in terms of progress towards the 5 year premiership plan as I feel we have gone backwards in style of play and general excitement at the Amex where goals and creative free flownig passing football were a bit more evident under Gus. Let's hope it is a temporary blip, or consolidation as they like to say.[/p][/quote]If you're going to pick out important matches then it's not the ones against the bottom teams, it's those against our rivals that matter. And in that case I'd say the points we dropped against Reading, Ipswich and Notts Forest were the most damaging. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 0

9:44am Fri 25 Apr 14

Aldrington Halt says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Gordon is 100% correct no manager for pre season none off his own players he got to bring in at the beginning, players out off contracts not knowing if they were being let go or being given new contracts, players out injured last season going in to this season and long term injuries to some this season ie croft and Orlandi, loan players brought in Stephens been great for us, Andrews not so great, didn't work out with two strikers for reason they usually were on bench for 80mins, yes we could do with a Ross mcormack banging in 30 goals for us, have we had a bad season i don't think so!!
Fighting relegation is a bad season lads!!!!
Up the Albion!!!!
Yay to that!!
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Gordon is 100% correct no manager for pre season none off his own players he got to bring in at the beginning, players out off contracts not knowing if they were being let go or being given new contracts, players out injured last season going in to this season and long term injuries to some this season ie croft and Orlandi, loan players brought in Stephens been great for us, Andrews not so great, didn't work out with two strikers for reason they usually were on bench for 80mins, yes we could do with a Ross mcormack banging in 30 goals for us, have we had a bad season i don't think so!! Fighting relegation is a bad season lads!!!! Up the Albion!!!![/p][/quote]Yay to that!! Aldrington Halt
  • Score: 0

9:45am Fri 25 Apr 14

DGee says...

If that's what the club think just glad I didn't renew for next season.
If that's what the club think just glad I didn't renew for next season. DGee
  • Score: -10

9:45am Fri 25 Apr 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Claude Back wrote:
It might have been a policy of the Club to which Gordon refers but it could be simply that we couldn't sign the players we wanted. I think the latter is more likely on the balance of probabilities.
I (and it's hard to say this) agree entirely with Claude :-)

There were many attempts to sign players that didn't come off. I think a variation of Hanlon's Razor applies here.
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: It might have been a policy of the Club to which Gordon refers but it could be simply that we couldn't sign the players we wanted. I think the latter is more likely on the balance of probabilities.[/p][/quote]I (and it's hard to say this) agree entirely with Claude :-) There were many attempts to sign players that didn't come off. I think a variation of Hanlon's Razor applies here. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 4

9:57am Fri 25 Apr 14

Claude Back says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
It might have been a policy of the Club to which Gordon refers but it could be simply that we couldn't sign the players we wanted. I think the latter is more likely on the balance of probabilities.
I (and it's hard to say this) agree entirely with Claude :-)

There were many attempts to sign players that didn't come off. I think a variation of Hanlon's Razor applies here.
That's very brave of you, Arnie! Well done. ;-)
(Actually, and it's hard for me to admit this, I sometimes agree with you.)
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: It might have been a policy of the Club to which Gordon refers but it could be simply that we couldn't sign the players we wanted. I think the latter is more likely on the balance of probabilities.[/p][/quote]I (and it's hard to say this) agree entirely with Claude :-) There were many attempts to sign players that didn't come off. I think a variation of Hanlon's Razor applies here.[/p][/quote]That's very brave of you, Arnie! Well done. ;-) (Actually, and it's hard for me to admit this, I sometimes agree with you.) Claude Back
  • Score: 6

10:06am Fri 25 Apr 14

Major Bloodboil says...

I think that Albion in Staffs and Claude B have probably got the answer to the lack of any proper activity in the transfer market between them.
AIS says:-
"By the time we'd overcome Gus's departure and Oscar's arrival, the main transfer window of the year was closed and we've only had the loan market and a pseudo window in January in which to strengthen." And Claude says that we couldn't sign the players we wanted.

Those dreaded letters FFP have also played a part and I regret to readin the Independent online that Platini is saying that enforcement is going to be by way of more carrot than stick. He illustrates what he means by saying that both Man City and Paris SG are not going to be banned from competing in Europe next season even if it is found that they have breached the regulations, as seems likely! They will face other penalties, however but if they are just fined then that is going to be no punishment at all as they have a bottomless pit as far as finance is concerned.

Although the FFP rules in the Premiership are different to those that apply in the Championship, going by the above, it would not in the least surprise me if the teams that are in breach of the regulations in the Championship get let off the hook with a slap on the wrist and a fine and if that is what happens then it will be a big slap in the face for us. I sincerely hope that I am wrong.

Anyway here's hoping for a great match tonight - one to savour over the summer months until the next season starts. Come on you Seagulls!
I think that Albion in Staffs and Claude B have probably got the answer to the lack of any proper activity in the transfer market between them. AIS says:- "By the time we'd overcome Gus's departure and Oscar's arrival, the main transfer window of the year was closed and we've only had the loan market and a pseudo window in January in which to strengthen." And Claude says that we couldn't sign the players we wanted. Those dreaded letters FFP have also played a part and I regret to readin the Independent online that Platini is saying that enforcement is going to be by way of more carrot than stick. He illustrates what he means by saying that both Man City and Paris SG are not going to be banned from competing in Europe next season even if it is found that they have breached the regulations, as seems likely! They will face other penalties, however but if they are just fined then that is going to be no punishment at all as they have a bottomless pit as far as finance is concerned. Although the FFP rules in the Premiership are different to those that apply in the Championship, going by the above, it would not in the least surprise me if the teams that are in breach of the regulations in the Championship get let off the hook with a slap on the wrist and a fine and if that is what happens then it will be a big slap in the face for us. I sincerely hope that I am wrong. Anyway here's hoping for a great match tonight - one to savour over the summer months until the next season starts. Come on you Seagulls! Major Bloodboil
  • Score: 7

10:08am Fri 25 Apr 14

To baldly go says...

SeagullOverSelsey wrote:
Agree. All the moaners on here think we should win every game.I suppose if we did they would have something else to moan about!!
I think you will find that all the moaners want to see is the players show some desire and commitment, and entertain the fans who contribute to their large wages, visually this has been lacking. Lose but lose well if that makes sense, and the crowd will still be behind the team come what may!
Some/most of the home games have been lacking in positive/forward play, I think most on here will agree with that, hence not being shown on tv as much as others. With what has gone on this season to still be in there with a shout is a success yes, but, it could have been more imo. I hope Oscar stays with us because over the summer big changes are going to happen, it has to! Those out of contract, loan players, some coming to the end of their careers and those that could be sold, the team will go through some big changes, hopefully with Oscars choice of players arriving.
Money has been available this season and not used, like the Graben deal! add in money from sales and add this to next years budget, including money from the new Nike deal etc and we should have a good budget to get the right aged players in to push on to the next level. Let's go out with a bang tonight and give the lads one final push to go to Forest and take us to the playoffs and who knows from there!
[quote][p][bold]SeagullOverSelsey[/bold] wrote: Agree. All the moaners on here think we should win every game.I suppose if we did they would have something else to moan about!![/p][/quote]I think you will find that all the moaners want to see is the players show some desire and commitment, and entertain the fans who contribute to their large wages, visually this has been lacking. Lose but lose well if that makes sense, and the crowd will still be behind the team come what may! Some/most of the home games have been lacking in positive/forward play, I think most on here will agree with that, hence not being shown on tv as much as others. With what has gone on this season to still be in there with a shout is a success yes, but, it could have been more imo. I hope Oscar stays with us because over the summer big changes are going to happen, it has to! Those out of contract, loan players, some coming to the end of their careers and those that could be sold, the team will go through some big changes, hopefully with Oscars choice of players arriving. Money has been available this season and not used, like the Graben deal! add in money from sales and add this to next years budget, including money from the new Nike deal etc and we should have a good budget to get the right aged players in to push on to the next level. Let's go out with a bang tonight and give the lads one final push to go to Forest and take us to the playoffs and who knows from there! To baldly go
  • Score: 5

10:12am Fri 25 Apr 14

Captain Haddock says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Eddy B wrote:
It would be disappointing after being so close but I do feel the Blackpool game was the significant one. I know people say it's the 46 games overall that count but that's only partly true - in this league everyone is so inconsistent that it only takes a decent run at the end to sneak in. Therefore the Blackpool draw was probably more important than previous under performances against lowly teams like Barnsley, as now we have no time to recover the lost ground.

Greer is right about alot of handicaps we've had this season so to finish anywhere in the top 10 would be a pretty good result and probalby over flattering on how we've been playing. We have lost our best player (Bridcutt) and probably two of our most creative players (Buckley and Orlandi) for most of the season.

However I wouldn't particularly agree about the size of the squad and the budget being under par (loans and immediate replacements for injured players has been evident), and don't really understand why this should be with the crowds we get anyway.

But the season does remain a disappointment in terms of progress towards the 5 year premiership plan as I feel we have gone backwards in style of play and general excitement at the Amex where goals and creative free flownig passing football were a bit more evident under Gus. Let's hope it is a temporary blip, or consolidation as they like to say.
Don't agree Eddy. The Blackpool game appears to be the most significant to you because it was the most recent? Throughout the whole season, we've left behind the same number of points, or more in some cases more, in games that we should have done better in.
Sure, all clubs can point to that through a long season, but the fact we've had - I'd suggest - more than most, is a sign we're not quite good enough yet.
And for me the reason for that is the turmoil Greer points to.
By the time we'd overcome Gus's departure and Oscar's arrival, the main transfer window of the year was closed and we've only had the loan market and a pseudo window in January in which to strengthen.
Simply put, in my opinion, you can't play catch up in that way anymore. The size of the squad may be ok, but it's quality isn't and that's the result of playing catch up. I've said before, we have a competitive team, but not a competitive squad and over 46 games, you need the latter.
I'll be thrilled if we make into the top 6, but for me, it's more likely OG will be using the knowledge of this season to prepare for the next - and I'm one of those who's backing him to do a decent job.
Spot on, AIS. Sums up my outlook entirely.

Let's hope we can take it to the wire with a good solid win tonight. Fir the first time this season our fixture IS a must win.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eddy B[/bold] wrote: It would be disappointing after being so close but I do feel the Blackpool game was the significant one. I know people say it's the 46 games overall that count but that's only partly true - in this league everyone is so inconsistent that it only takes a decent run at the end to sneak in. Therefore the Blackpool draw was probably more important than previous under performances against lowly teams like Barnsley, as now we have no time to recover the lost ground. Greer is right about alot of handicaps we've had this season so to finish anywhere in the top 10 would be a pretty good result and probalby over flattering on how we've been playing. We have lost our best player (Bridcutt) and probably two of our most creative players (Buckley and Orlandi) for most of the season. However I wouldn't particularly agree about the size of the squad and the budget being under par (loans and immediate replacements for injured players has been evident), and don't really understand why this should be with the crowds we get anyway. But the season does remain a disappointment in terms of progress towards the 5 year premiership plan as I feel we have gone backwards in style of play and general excitement at the Amex where goals and creative free flownig passing football were a bit more evident under Gus. Let's hope it is a temporary blip, or consolidation as they like to say.[/p][/quote]Don't agree Eddy. The Blackpool game appears to be the most significant to you because it was the most recent? Throughout the whole season, we've left behind the same number of points, or more in some cases more, in games that we should have done better in. Sure, all clubs can point to that through a long season, but the fact we've had - I'd suggest - more than most, is a sign we're not quite good enough yet. And for me the reason for that is the turmoil Greer points to. By the time we'd overcome Gus's departure and Oscar's arrival, the main transfer window of the year was closed and we've only had the loan market and a pseudo window in January in which to strengthen. Simply put, in my opinion, you can't play catch up in that way anymore. The size of the squad may be ok, but it's quality isn't and that's the result of playing catch up. I've said before, we have a competitive team, but not a competitive squad and over 46 games, you need the latter. I'll be thrilled if we make into the top 6, but for me, it's more likely OG will be using the knowledge of this season to prepare for the next - and I'm one of those who's backing him to do a decent job.[/p][/quote]Spot on, AIS. Sums up my outlook entirely. Let's hope we can take it to the wire with a good solid win tonight. Fir the first time this season our fixture IS a must win. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 2

10:15am Fri 25 Apr 14

Claude Back says...

Major Bloodboil wrote:
I think that Albion in Staffs and Claude B have probably got the answer to the lack of any proper activity in the transfer market between them.
AIS says:-
"By the time we'd overcome Gus's departure and Oscar's arrival, the main transfer window of the year was closed and we've only had the loan market and a pseudo window in January in which to strengthen." And Claude says that we couldn't sign the players we wanted.

Those dreaded letters FFP have also played a part and I regret to readin the Independent online that Platini is saying that enforcement is going to be by way of more carrot than stick. He illustrates what he means by saying that both Man City and Paris SG are not going to be banned from competing in Europe next season even if it is found that they have breached the regulations, as seems likely! They will face other penalties, however but if they are just fined then that is going to be no punishment at all as they have a bottomless pit as far as finance is concerned.

Although the FFP rules in the Premiership are different to those that apply in the Championship, going by the above, it would not in the least surprise me if the teams that are in breach of the regulations in the Championship get let off the hook with a slap on the wrist and a fine and if that is what happens then it will be a big slap in the face for us. I sincerely hope that I am wrong.

Anyway here's hoping for a great match tonight - one to savour over the summer months until the next season starts. Come on you Seagulls!
I have a suspicion you are going to be right, Major.
That 'pseudo window' can be a 'pain' that's never really open, can't it?
(Btw are you a Legal Eagle? Just something in the rhetoric.)
[quote][p][bold]Major Bloodboil[/bold] wrote: I think that Albion in Staffs and Claude B have probably got the answer to the lack of any proper activity in the transfer market between them. AIS says:- "By the time we'd overcome Gus's departure and Oscar's arrival, the main transfer window of the year was closed and we've only had the loan market and a pseudo window in January in which to strengthen." And Claude says that we couldn't sign the players we wanted. Those dreaded letters FFP have also played a part and I regret to readin the Independent online that Platini is saying that enforcement is going to be by way of more carrot than stick. He illustrates what he means by saying that both Man City and Paris SG are not going to be banned from competing in Europe next season even if it is found that they have breached the regulations, as seems likely! They will face other penalties, however but if they are just fined then that is going to be no punishment at all as they have a bottomless pit as far as finance is concerned. Although the FFP rules in the Premiership are different to those that apply in the Championship, going by the above, it would not in the least surprise me if the teams that are in breach of the regulations in the Championship get let off the hook with a slap on the wrist and a fine and if that is what happens then it will be a big slap in the face for us. I sincerely hope that I am wrong. Anyway here's hoping for a great match tonight - one to savour over the summer months until the next season starts. Come on you Seagulls![/p][/quote]I have a suspicion you are going to be right, Major. That 'pseudo window' can be a 'pain' that's never really open, can't it? (Btw are you a Legal Eagle? Just something in the rhetoric.) Claude Back
  • Score: 2

10:18am Fri 25 Apr 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

I think our home form has undone us. From the perspective of the away side it must be great to come to the Amex and get a result. We need to get behind the team and make it fortress Amex and help get those wins at home. If our form at home had been half decent we would have been up there with Leicester and Burnley. Still, all is not lost. End of term report - tries hard but must do better. Starting tonight. UTA
I think our home form has undone us. From the perspective of the away side it must be great to come to the Amex and get a result. We need to get behind the team and make it fortress Amex and help get those wins at home. If our form at home had been half decent we would have been up there with Leicester and Burnley. Still, all is not lost. End of term report - tries hard but must do better. Starting tonight. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 2

10:19am Fri 25 Apr 14

Claude Back says...

To baldly go wrote:
SeagullOverSelsey wrote:
Agree. All the moaners on here think we should win every game.I suppose if we did they would have something else to moan about!!
I think you will find that all the moaners want to see is the players show some desire and commitment, and entertain the fans who contribute to their large wages, visually this has been lacking. Lose but lose well if that makes sense, and the crowd will still be behind the team come what may!
Some/most of the home games have been lacking in positive/forward play, I think most on here will agree with that, hence not being shown on tv as much as others. With what has gone on this season to still be in there with a shout is a success yes, but, it could have been more imo. I hope Oscar stays with us because over the summer big changes are going to happen, it has to! Those out of contract, loan players, some coming to the end of their careers and those that could be sold, the team will go through some big changes, hopefully with Oscars choice of players arriving.
Money has been available this season and not used, like the Graben deal! add in money from sales and add this to next years budget, including money from the new Nike deal etc and we should have a good budget to get the right aged players in to push on to the next level. Let's go out with a bang tonight and give the lads one final push to go to Forest and take us to the playoffs and who knows from there!
Some good points, To Baldly Go. Make it so.
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SeagullOverSelsey[/bold] wrote: Agree. All the moaners on here think we should win every game.I suppose if we did they would have something else to moan about!![/p][/quote]I think you will find that all the moaners want to see is the players show some desire and commitment, and entertain the fans who contribute to their large wages, visually this has been lacking. Lose but lose well if that makes sense, and the crowd will still be behind the team come what may! Some/most of the home games have been lacking in positive/forward play, I think most on here will agree with that, hence not being shown on tv as much as others. With what has gone on this season to still be in there with a shout is a success yes, but, it could have been more imo. I hope Oscar stays with us because over the summer big changes are going to happen, it has to! Those out of contract, loan players, some coming to the end of their careers and those that could be sold, the team will go through some big changes, hopefully with Oscars choice of players arriving. Money has been available this season and not used, like the Graben deal! add in money from sales and add this to next years budget, including money from the new Nike deal etc and we should have a good budget to get the right aged players in to push on to the next level. Let's go out with a bang tonight and give the lads one final push to go to Forest and take us to the playoffs and who knows from there![/p][/quote]Some good points, To Baldly Go. Make it so. Claude Back
  • Score: 5

11:30am Fri 25 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

I think the transfer issue that Greer was thinking of comes from the period in time when Gus started his drawn out exit. The retain and keep list would have already been drawn up, as would a list of target signings. Once our play-off attempts were dashed the hard work of bringing in new players would have started, but it didn't due to the fact that we didn't have a manager.
You can bet that there are talks going on right now with the agents of certain players we would like to bring in, prelim talks that could result in offers being made, I doubt too much work was done in that area during the last days and weeks of Gus, and if any talks were going on at that time, then they probably stalled once Gus was fired. When the window closed it was too late.
I think the transfer issue that Greer was thinking of comes from the period in time when Gus started his drawn out exit. The retain and keep list would have already been drawn up, as would a list of target signings. Once our play-off attempts were dashed the hard work of bringing in new players would have started, but it didn't due to the fact that we didn't have a manager. You can bet that there are talks going on right now with the agents of certain players we would like to bring in, prelim talks that could result in offers being made, I doubt too much work was done in that area during the last days and weeks of Gus, and if any talks were going on at that time, then they probably stalled once Gus was fired. When the window closed it was too late. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

12:20pm Fri 25 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

Games missed players not being available for selection this season, players who I think we would all agree either, are could or should, be influential regarding our results, and these numbers might be on the low side.

Crofts 19, Orlandi 25, Buckley 16, Kaz 7, Leo 12 and CMS 39.

Players signed in time for our first pre-season friendly.

None.

Players signed in time for our first league match on 3-8-2013.

Chicksen and Agustien.

I think that we have had a good season, all things considered.
Games missed players not being available for selection this season, players who I think we would all agree either, are could or should, be influential regarding our results, and these numbers might be on the low side. Crofts 19, Orlandi 25, Buckley 16, Kaz 7, Leo 12 and CMS 39. Players signed in time for our first pre-season friendly. None. Players signed in time for our first league match on 3-8-2013. Chicksen and Agustien. I think that we have had a good season, all things considered. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -1

1:19pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Captain Haddock says...

Claude Back wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
It might have been a policy of the Club to which Gordon refers but it could be simply that we couldn't sign the players we wanted. I think the latter is more likely on the balance of probabilities.
I (and it's hard to say this) agree entirely with Claude :-)

There were many attempts to sign players that didn't come off. I think a variation of Hanlon's Razor applies here.
That's very brave of you, Arnie! Well done. ;-)
(Actually, and it's hard for me to admit this, I sometimes agree with you.)
Oh get a room! ;0)
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: It might have been a policy of the Club to which Gordon refers but it could be simply that we couldn't sign the players we wanted. I think the latter is more likely on the balance of probabilities.[/p][/quote]I (and it's hard to say this) agree entirely with Claude :-) There were many attempts to sign players that didn't come off. I think a variation of Hanlon's Razor applies here.[/p][/quote]That's very brave of you, Arnie! Well done. ;-) (Actually, and it's hard for me to admit this, I sometimes agree with you.)[/p][/quote]Oh get a room! ;0) Captain Haddock
  • Score: 3

1:25pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Major Bloodboil says...

Claude Back wrote:
Major Bloodboil wrote:
I think that Albion in Staffs and Claude B have probably got the answer to the lack of any proper activity in the transfer market between them.
AIS says:-
"By the time we'd overcome Gus's departure and Oscar's arrival, the main transfer window of the year was closed and we've only had the loan market and a pseudo window in January in which to strengthen." And Claude says that we couldn't sign the players we wanted.

Those dreaded letters FFP have also played a part and I regret to readin the Independent online that Platini is saying that enforcement is going to be by way of more carrot than stick. He illustrates what he means by saying that both Man City and Paris SG are not going to be banned from competing in Europe next season even if it is found that they have breached the regulations, as seems likely! They will face other penalties, however but if they are just fined then that is going to be no punishment at all as they have a bottomless pit as far as finance is concerned.

Although the FFP rules in the Premiership are different to those that apply in the Championship, going by the above, it would not in the least surprise me if the teams that are in breach of the regulations in the Championship get let off the hook with a slap on the wrist and a fine and if that is what happens then it will be a big slap in the face for us. I sincerely hope that I am wrong.

Anyway here's hoping for a great match tonight - one to savour over the summer months until the next season starts. Come on you Seagulls!
I have a suspicion you are going to be right, Major.
That 'pseudo window' can be a 'pain' that's never really open, can't it?
(Btw are you a Legal Eagle? Just something in the rhetoric.)
Nice pun Claude.
As for being a legal eagle, I suppose that it could reasonably be averred, 'without prejudice' of course that I have some expertise in this connection and have probably undertaken as much work defending as The Albion this year!
How about you? You seem to display similar qualities although your clever usage of the English Language could suggest that you are, I don't know...a poet or an author perhaps?
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Major Bloodboil[/bold] wrote: I think that Albion in Staffs and Claude B have probably got the answer to the lack of any proper activity in the transfer market between them. AIS says:- "By the time we'd overcome Gus's departure and Oscar's arrival, the main transfer window of the year was closed and we've only had the loan market and a pseudo window in January in which to strengthen." And Claude says that we couldn't sign the players we wanted. Those dreaded letters FFP have also played a part and I regret to readin the Independent online that Platini is saying that enforcement is going to be by way of more carrot than stick. He illustrates what he means by saying that both Man City and Paris SG are not going to be banned from competing in Europe next season even if it is found that they have breached the regulations, as seems likely! They will face other penalties, however but if they are just fined then that is going to be no punishment at all as they have a bottomless pit as far as finance is concerned. Although the FFP rules in the Premiership are different to those that apply in the Championship, going by the above, it would not in the least surprise me if the teams that are in breach of the regulations in the Championship get let off the hook with a slap on the wrist and a fine and if that is what happens then it will be a big slap in the face for us. I sincerely hope that I am wrong. Anyway here's hoping for a great match tonight - one to savour over the summer months until the next season starts. Come on you Seagulls![/p][/quote]I have a suspicion you are going to be right, Major. That 'pseudo window' can be a 'pain' that's never really open, can't it? (Btw are you a Legal Eagle? Just something in the rhetoric.)[/p][/quote]Nice pun Claude. As for being a legal eagle, I suppose that it could reasonably be averred, 'without prejudice' of course that I have some expertise in this connection and have probably undertaken as much work defending as The Albion this year! How about you? You seem to display similar qualities although your clever usage of the English Language could suggest that you are, I don't know...a poet or an author perhaps? Major Bloodboil
  • Score: 1

2:43pm Fri 25 Apr 14

gordongull says...

SeagullOverSelsey wrote:
Agree. All the moaners on here think we should win every game.I suppose if we did they would have something else to moan about!!
Not true. The moaners think we should PLAY every game to win. Looking at the previous article the coaches have now realized this.
Maybe someone told Nathan that there are now three points for a win.
[quote][p][bold]SeagullOverSelsey[/bold] wrote: Agree. All the moaners on here think we should win every game.I suppose if we did they would have something else to moan about!![/p][/quote]Not true. The moaners think we should PLAY every game to win. Looking at the previous article the coaches have now realized this. Maybe someone told Nathan that there are now three points for a win. gordongull
  • Score: 0

2:44pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Claude Back says...

Major Bloodboil wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
Major Bloodboil wrote:
I think that Albion in Staffs and Claude B have probably got the answer to the lack of any proper activity in the transfer market between them.
AIS says:-
"By the time we'd overcome Gus's departure and Oscar's arrival, the main transfer window of the year was closed and we've only had the loan market and a pseudo window in January in which to strengthen." And Claude says that we couldn't sign the players we wanted.

Those dreaded letters FFP have also played a part and I regret to readin the Independent online that Platini is saying that enforcement is going to be by way of more carrot than stick. He illustrates what he means by saying that both Man City and Paris SG are not going to be banned from competing in Europe next season even if it is found that they have breached the regulations, as seems likely! They will face other penalties, however but if they are just fined then that is going to be no punishment at all as they have a bottomless pit as far as finance is concerned.

Although the FFP rules in the Premiership are different to those that apply in the Championship, going by the above, it would not in the least surprise me if the teams that are in breach of the regulations in the Championship get let off the hook with a slap on the wrist and a fine and if that is what happens then it will be a big slap in the face for us. I sincerely hope that I am wrong.

Anyway here's hoping for a great match tonight - one to savour over the summer months until the next season starts. Come on you Seagulls!
I have a suspicion you are going to be right, Major.
That 'pseudo window' can be a 'pain' that's never really open, can't it?
(Btw are you a Legal Eagle? Just something in the rhetoric.)
Nice pun Claude.
As for being a legal eagle, I suppose that it could reasonably be averred, 'without prejudice' of course that I have some expertise in this connection and have probably undertaken as much work defending as The Albion this year!
How about you? You seem to display similar qualities although your clever usage of the English Language could suggest that you are, I don't know...a poet or an author perhaps?
About you....Thought so.
Me..... I am not saying on the grounds it may incriminate me. :-)
[quote][p][bold]Major Bloodboil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Major Bloodboil[/bold] wrote: I think that Albion in Staffs and Claude B have probably got the answer to the lack of any proper activity in the transfer market between them. AIS says:- "By the time we'd overcome Gus's departure and Oscar's arrival, the main transfer window of the year was closed and we've only had the loan market and a pseudo window in January in which to strengthen." And Claude says that we couldn't sign the players we wanted. Those dreaded letters FFP have also played a part and I regret to readin the Independent online that Platini is saying that enforcement is going to be by way of more carrot than stick. He illustrates what he means by saying that both Man City and Paris SG are not going to be banned from competing in Europe next season even if it is found that they have breached the regulations, as seems likely! They will face other penalties, however but if they are just fined then that is going to be no punishment at all as they have a bottomless pit as far as finance is concerned. Although the FFP rules in the Premiership are different to those that apply in the Championship, going by the above, it would not in the least surprise me if the teams that are in breach of the regulations in the Championship get let off the hook with a slap on the wrist and a fine and if that is what happens then it will be a big slap in the face for us. I sincerely hope that I am wrong. Anyway here's hoping for a great match tonight - one to savour over the summer months until the next season starts. Come on you Seagulls![/p][/quote]I have a suspicion you are going to be right, Major. That 'pseudo window' can be a 'pain' that's never really open, can't it? (Btw are you a Legal Eagle? Just something in the rhetoric.)[/p][/quote]Nice pun Claude. As for being a legal eagle, I suppose that it could reasonably be averred, 'without prejudice' of course that I have some expertise in this connection and have probably undertaken as much work defending as The Albion this year! How about you? You seem to display similar qualities although your clever usage of the English Language could suggest that you are, I don't know...a poet or an author perhaps?[/p][/quote]About you....Thought so. Me..... I am not saying on the grounds it may incriminate me. :-) Claude Back
  • Score: 1

2:49pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Major Bloodboil wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
Major Bloodboil wrote:
I think that Albion in Staffs and Claude B have probably got the answer to the lack of any proper activity in the transfer market between them.
AIS says:-
"By the time we'd overcome Gus's departure and Oscar's arrival, the main transfer window of the year was closed and we've only had the loan market and a pseudo window in January in which to strengthen." And Claude says that we couldn't sign the players we wanted.

Those dreaded letters FFP have also played a part and I regret to readin the Independent online that Platini is saying that enforcement is going to be by way of more carrot than stick. He illustrates what he means by saying that both Man City and Paris SG are not going to be banned from competing in Europe next season even if it is found that they have breached the regulations, as seems likely! They will face other penalties, however but if they are just fined then that is going to be no punishment at all as they have a bottomless pit as far as finance is concerned.

Although the FFP rules in the Premiership are different to those that apply in the Championship, going by the above, it would not in the least surprise me if the teams that are in breach of the regulations in the Championship get let off the hook with a slap on the wrist and a fine and if that is what happens then it will be a big slap in the face for us. I sincerely hope that I am wrong.

Anyway here's hoping for a great match tonight - one to savour over the summer months until the next season starts. Come on you Seagulls!
I have a suspicion you are going to be right, Major.
That 'pseudo window' can be a 'pain' that's never really open, can't it?
(Btw are you a Legal Eagle? Just something in the rhetoric.)
Nice pun Claude.
As for being a legal eagle, I suppose that it could reasonably be averred, 'without prejudice' of course that I have some expertise in this connection and have probably undertaken as much work defending as The Albion this year!
How about you? You seem to display similar qualities although your clever usage of the English Language could suggest that you are, I don't know...a poet or an author perhaps?
Blimey, is this an Argus comment thread or an audition for What's My Line? (Showing my age now)
If it's the latter, I reckon you're both really plumbers on a wind up.....
[quote][p][bold]Major Bloodboil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Major Bloodboil[/bold] wrote: I think that Albion in Staffs and Claude B have probably got the answer to the lack of any proper activity in the transfer market between them. AIS says:- "By the time we'd overcome Gus's departure and Oscar's arrival, the main transfer window of the year was closed and we've only had the loan market and a pseudo window in January in which to strengthen." And Claude says that we couldn't sign the players we wanted. Those dreaded letters FFP have also played a part and I regret to readin the Independent online that Platini is saying that enforcement is going to be by way of more carrot than stick. He illustrates what he means by saying that both Man City and Paris SG are not going to be banned from competing in Europe next season even if it is found that they have breached the regulations, as seems likely! They will face other penalties, however but if they are just fined then that is going to be no punishment at all as they have a bottomless pit as far as finance is concerned. Although the FFP rules in the Premiership are different to those that apply in the Championship, going by the above, it would not in the least surprise me if the teams that are in breach of the regulations in the Championship get let off the hook with a slap on the wrist and a fine and if that is what happens then it will be a big slap in the face for us. I sincerely hope that I am wrong. Anyway here's hoping for a great match tonight - one to savour over the summer months until the next season starts. Come on you Seagulls![/p][/quote]I have a suspicion you are going to be right, Major. That 'pseudo window' can be a 'pain' that's never really open, can't it? (Btw are you a Legal Eagle? Just something in the rhetoric.)[/p][/quote]Nice pun Claude. As for being a legal eagle, I suppose that it could reasonably be averred, 'without prejudice' of course that I have some expertise in this connection and have probably undertaken as much work defending as The Albion this year! How about you? You seem to display similar qualities although your clever usage of the English Language could suggest that you are, I don't know...a poet or an author perhaps?[/p][/quote]Blimey, is this an Argus comment thread or an audition for What's My Line? (Showing my age now) If it's the latter, I reckon you're both really plumbers on a wind up..... Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 1

4:07pm Fri 25 Apr 14

gordongull says...

Gordon seems to be referring to the Club's failure to sign Lewis Grabban from Bournemouth, and Shaun Williams from MK Dons in January.
If we were under a transfer embargo I think someone would have mentioned it!
Gordon seems to be referring to the Club's failure to sign Lewis Grabban from Bournemouth, and Shaun Williams from MK Dons in January. If we were under a transfer embargo I think someone would have mentioned it! gordongull
  • Score: 0

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