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Oscar proud of Albion's comeback knack

The Argus: Oscar Garcia Oscar Garcia

Albion boss Oscar Garcia is proud of his team's character in coming from behind to make the play-offs.

The Seagulls fought back from 1-0 down at half-time at Nottingham Forest yesterday to finish above Reading in sixth with goals by Stephen Ward and Leo Ulloa's injury time winner.

Oscar told The Argus: "It is difficult to play well when you are playing for something so special, because everybody is maybe too excited. I think we showed great character.

"We had to dig deep and I'm really pleased, I could not be prouder of the players."

Albion also snatched crucial late draws from behind at Blackburn and Huddersfield last month in the eight-match unbeaten run which has carried them into the play-offs.

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3:47pm Sun 4 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

It just goes to show how every point counts, even when the point is gained from a match where we might have expected all three. Oscar is right to be proud of his players, we all should be.
Upson correctly won the player of the year award, but others, less proclaimed, also did their part. Calde, much loved by the fans but one who gets few games, didn't let us down when called upon. The goals scored by Crofts before his season ending injury. David didn't have a good season but we shouldn't forget what he did do right, and there are others.

I am looking forward to see what shape the squad takes once our season ends, regardless of which division we find ourselves in.
It just goes to show how every point counts, even when the point is gained from a match where we might have expected all three. Oscar is right to be proud of his players, we all should be. Upson correctly won the player of the year award, but others, less proclaimed, also did their part. Calde, much loved by the fans but one who gets few games, didn't let us down when called upon. The goals scored by Crofts before his season ending injury. David didn't have a good season but we shouldn't forget what he did do right, and there are others. I am looking forward to see what shape the squad takes once our season ends, regardless of which division we find ourselves in. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 17

3:59pm Sun 4 May 14

Uckfield Seagull says...

Whether its by luck, judgement or whatever Oscar deserves lots of credit for getting the Albion into the play offs, albeit by the skin of our neck, some people like managers who rant and rave, Holloway, Warnock etc etc but I cant help but praise Oscar for the way he has handled himself this season, a season which has been very tough as your first.
Whether its by luck, judgement or whatever Oscar deserves lots of credit for getting the Albion into the play offs, albeit by the skin of our neck, some people like managers who rant and rave, Holloway, Warnock etc etc but I cant help but praise Oscar for the way he has handled himself this season, a season which has been very tough as your first. Uckfield Seagull
  • Score: 18

4:35pm Sun 4 May 14

OldGull says...

In OG we trust
Lets hope we can go at least one step further......
In OG we trust Lets hope we can go at least one step further...... OldGull
  • Score: 11

4:57pm Sun 4 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

It's just fun now isn't it, no pressure of the players, our place in the top six is a bonus for what has been a difficult season. When we play Derby my hope is that the lads look on it as they would an FA Cup match, take the park and enjoy the moment and go for a win, if over the two legs it dosen't pan out, well it was fun whilst it lasted.
It's just fun now isn't it, no pressure of the players, our place in the top six is a bonus for what has been a difficult season. When we play Derby my hope is that the lads look on it as they would an FA Cup match, take the park and enjoy the moment and go for a win, if over the two legs it dosen't pan out, well it was fun whilst it lasted. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 16

5:26pm Sun 4 May 14

Hovite says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
It's just fun now isn't it, no pressure of the players, our place in the top six is a bonus for what has been a difficult season. When we play Derby my hope is that the lads look on it as they would an FA Cup match, take the park and enjoy the moment and go for a win, if over the two legs it dosen't pan out, well it was fun whilst it lasted.
They have beaten us twice this season, although their second win was against the run of play was lucky.

With two more games against them by the law of averages we will win one of them, and may draw the other.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: It's just fun now isn't it, no pressure of the players, our place in the top six is a bonus for what has been a difficult season. When we play Derby my hope is that the lads look on it as they would an FA Cup match, take the park and enjoy the moment and go for a win, if over the two legs it dosen't pan out, well it was fun whilst it lasted.[/p][/quote]They have beaten us twice this season, although their second win was against the run of play was lucky. With two more games against them by the law of averages we will win one of them, and may draw the other. Hovite
  • Score: 11

5:36pm Sun 4 May 14

Neville says...

A play off place has been earned but overall especially at home we haven't really hit a consistent run of form or set The Amex alight with brilliant football but credit to OG for getting us there.
I see this as a bonus and we really should have no fear from Derby,off all the teams to play I fancy us to overcome Derby and they would have been my chosen opponents given a choice. The past season now counts for nothing and it is all down to who can perform on the day,The other teams have hit consistent form especially Derby and Brighton can look forward to the playoffs nothing they can play so much better.
Lets get a couple of goals start this Thursday.
A play off place has been earned but overall especially at home we haven't really hit a consistent run of form or set The Amex alight with brilliant football but credit to OG for getting us there. I see this as a bonus and we really should have no fear from Derby,off all the teams to play I fancy us to overcome Derby and they would have been my chosen opponents given a choice. The past season now counts for nothing and it is all down to who can perform on the day,The other teams have hit consistent form especially Derby and Brighton can look forward to the playoffs nothing they can play so much better. Lets get a couple of goals start this Thursday. Neville
  • Score: 7

5:39pm Sun 4 May 14

saraman says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
It just goes to show how every point counts, even when the point is gained from a match where we might have expected all three. Oscar is right to be proud of his players, we all should be.
Upson correctly won the player of the year award, but others, less proclaimed, also did their part. Calde, much loved by the fans but one who gets few games, didn't let us down when called upon. The goals scored by Crofts before his season ending injury. David didn't have a good season but we shouldn't forget what he did do right, and there are others.

I am looking forward to see what shape the squad takes once our season ends, regardless of which division we find ourselves in.
If anyone has doubts Vegas, about OG's commitment to the Albion, just look at the grin on his face, This man is made of the right stuff to take us all the way. Not too much evidence of trolls on here during the past 24 hours. How refreshing.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: It just goes to show how every point counts, even when the point is gained from a match where we might have expected all three. Oscar is right to be proud of his players, we all should be. Upson correctly won the player of the year award, but others, less proclaimed, also did their part. Calde, much loved by the fans but one who gets few games, didn't let us down when called upon. The goals scored by Crofts before his season ending injury. David didn't have a good season but we shouldn't forget what he did do right, and there are others. I am looking forward to see what shape the squad takes once our season ends, regardless of which division we find ourselves in.[/p][/quote]If anyone has doubts Vegas, about OG's commitment to the Albion, just look at the grin on his face, This man is made of the right stuff to take us all the way. Not too much evidence of trolls on here during the past 24 hours. How refreshing. saraman
  • Score: 10

5:46pm Sun 4 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

Hovite wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
It's just fun now isn't it, no pressure of the players, our place in the top six is a bonus for what has been a difficult season. When we play Derby my hope is that the lads look on it as they would an FA Cup match, take the park and enjoy the moment and go for a win, if over the two legs it dosen't pan out, well it was fun whilst it lasted.
They have beaten us twice this season, although their second win was against the run of play was lucky.

With two more games against them by the law of averages we will win one of them, and may draw the other.
Well I am not big on the whole, 'law of averages,' thing, but I see where you are coming from.
For me player availability could make the difference, if we have a fully fit starting eleven and a fit strong bench, previous results won't mean a lot. The biggest hurdle, probably for both teams, will be nerves. Derby at the Amex will take a draw and look to win at home, they will need to remained focused. Brighton must look for a win and composure in front of goal will be vital. I think that either team can win either of the matches, should be interesting to see how it all works out.
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: It's just fun now isn't it, no pressure of the players, our place in the top six is a bonus for what has been a difficult season. When we play Derby my hope is that the lads look on it as they would an FA Cup match, take the park and enjoy the moment and go for a win, if over the two legs it dosen't pan out, well it was fun whilst it lasted.[/p][/quote]They have beaten us twice this season, although their second win was against the run of play was lucky. With two more games against them by the law of averages we will win one of them, and may draw the other.[/p][/quote]Well I am not big on the whole, 'law of averages,' thing, but I see where you are coming from. For me player availability could make the difference, if we have a fully fit starting eleven and a fit strong bench, previous results won't mean a lot. The biggest hurdle, probably for both teams, will be nerves. Derby at the Amex will take a draw and look to win at home, they will need to remained focused. Brighton must look for a win and composure in front of goal will be vital. I think that either team can win either of the matches, should be interesting to see how it all works out. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 7

5:58pm Sun 4 May 14

fairweathersupporter says...

Neville wrote:
A play off place has been earned but overall especially at home we haven't really hit a consistent run of form or set The Amex alight with brilliant football but credit to OG for getting us there.
I see this as a bonus and we really should have no fear from Derby,off all the teams to play I fancy us to overcome Derby and they would have been my chosen opponents given a choice. The past season now counts for nothing and it is all down to who can perform on the day,The other teams have hit consistent form especially Derby and Brighton can look forward to the playoffs nothing they can play so much better.
Lets get a couple of goals start this Thursday.
Thing about Derby is they play football. So hopefully a Leicester type performance as opposed to a Blackpool type performance. Or i suppose a Derby type performance with a bit more luck. If you see what i mean...
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: A play off place has been earned but overall especially at home we haven't really hit a consistent run of form or set The Amex alight with brilliant football but credit to OG for getting us there. I see this as a bonus and we really should have no fear from Derby,off all the teams to play I fancy us to overcome Derby and they would have been my chosen opponents given a choice. The past season now counts for nothing and it is all down to who can perform on the day,The other teams have hit consistent form especially Derby and Brighton can look forward to the playoffs nothing they can play so much better. Lets get a couple of goals start this Thursday.[/p][/quote]Thing about Derby is they play football. So hopefully a Leicester type performance as opposed to a Blackpool type performance. Or i suppose a Derby type performance with a bit more luck. If you see what i mean... fairweathersupporter
  • Score: 13

6:09pm Sun 4 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

saraman wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
It just goes to show how every point counts, even when the point is gained from a match where we might have expected all three. Oscar is right to be proud of his players, we all should be.
Upson correctly won the player of the year award, but others, less proclaimed, also did their part. Calde, much loved by the fans but one who gets few games, didn't let us down when called upon. The goals scored by Crofts before his season ending injury. David didn't have a good season but we shouldn't forget what he did do right, and there are others.

I am looking forward to see what shape the squad takes once our season ends, regardless of which division we find ourselves in.
If anyone has doubts Vegas, about OG's commitment to the Albion, just look at the grin on his face, This man is made of the right stuff to take us all the way. Not too much evidence of trolls on here during the past 24 hours. How refreshing.
it is rather pleasing isn't it :-))
[quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: It just goes to show how every point counts, even when the point is gained from a match where we might have expected all three. Oscar is right to be proud of his players, we all should be. Upson correctly won the player of the year award, but others, less proclaimed, also did their part. Calde, much loved by the fans but one who gets few games, didn't let us down when called upon. The goals scored by Crofts before his season ending injury. David didn't have a good season but we shouldn't forget what he did do right, and there are others. I am looking forward to see what shape the squad takes once our season ends, regardless of which division we find ourselves in.[/p][/quote]If anyone has doubts Vegas, about OG's commitment to the Albion, just look at the grin on his face, This man is made of the right stuff to take us all the way. Not too much evidence of trolls on here during the past 24 hours. How refreshing.[/p][/quote]it is rather pleasing isn't it :-)) VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

6:11pm Sun 4 May 14

Hovite says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Hovite wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
It's just fun now isn't it, no pressure of the players, our place in the top six is a bonus for what has been a difficult season. When we play Derby my hope is that the lads look on it as they would an FA Cup match, take the park and enjoy the moment and go for a win, if over the two legs it dosen't pan out, well it was fun whilst it lasted.
They have beaten us twice this season, although their second win was against the run of play was lucky.

With two more games against them by the law of averages we will win one of them, and may draw the other.
Well I am not big on the whole, 'law of averages,' thing, but I see where you are coming from.
For me player availability could make the difference, if we have a fully fit starting eleven and a fit strong bench, previous results won't mean a lot. The biggest hurdle, probably for both teams, will be nerves. Derby at the Amex will take a draw and look to win at home, they will need to remained focused. Brighton must look for a win and composure in front of goal will be vital. I think that either team can win either of the matches, should be interesting to see how it all works out.
Yep I'm not keen on the law of averages either, but they cannot beat us four times unless we add s0ds Law into the equation.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: It's just fun now isn't it, no pressure of the players, our place in the top six is a bonus for what has been a difficult season. When we play Derby my hope is that the lads look on it as they would an FA Cup match, take the park and enjoy the moment and go for a win, if over the two legs it dosen't pan out, well it was fun whilst it lasted.[/p][/quote]They have beaten us twice this season, although their second win was against the run of play was lucky. With two more games against them by the law of averages we will win one of them, and may draw the other.[/p][/quote]Well I am not big on the whole, 'law of averages,' thing, but I see where you are coming from. For me player availability could make the difference, if we have a fully fit starting eleven and a fit strong bench, previous results won't mean a lot. The biggest hurdle, probably for both teams, will be nerves. Derby at the Amex will take a draw and look to win at home, they will need to remained focused. Brighton must look for a win and composure in front of goal will be vital. I think that either team can win either of the matches, should be interesting to see how it all works out.[/p][/quote]Yep I'm not keen on the law of averages either, but they cannot beat us four times unless we add s0ds Law into the equation. Hovite
  • Score: 5

6:28pm Sun 4 May 14

gordongull says...

Oscar's methods have worked, and as one of the more vociferous critics of his style, I can't argue with that. The fact that all our rivals have shown a greater willingness than us to mess up should take nothing away from Oscar's achievement.
'Reading fan in Brighton' posted on another thread : ''Triumph for negative football - a very bad day for genuine football fans everywhere!!''.
There are 23 other sides in the Championship, but the only comment expressing this opinion was from a Reading fan!
Whatever positive, attacking football Reading fans have been provided with this season, it didn't get them enough points.
We finished above five clubs who are currently receiving parachute payments, the highest amount being £23m to Reading this season. Perhaps without this massive financial advantage, helping them to continue funding Premier League players, their approach would have been more cautious.
This brings us to a subject that Vegas brought up recently, about whether a win is more entertaining than a defeat, even if the match itself was instantly forgettable.
A run of 4-3 wins would be hugely entertaining, but defeats by the same margin, not as much so. So does the end justify the means? Oscar has navigated a course into the top six, with very little variation to the style of play. With hindsight, It is easy to point out where he was too negative in the matches where we failed to gain maximum points, but the ones we won don't receive the same scrutiny, and he has produced enough of them to get us into the play-offs.
The season has been a success for the players the coaching team, which means that Oscar's methods have been justified.
A more adventurous attacking policy at home, like how Reading play for example, could have resulted in a 7th place finish.
Would anyone swap for that now?
And what about Reading supporters. How much of their positive play would they have been willing to give up to secure a sixth place finish?
We all want attacking football, as long as it is winning attacking football.
Oscar's methods have worked, and as one of the more vociferous critics of his style, I can't argue with that. The fact that all our rivals have shown a greater willingness than us to mess up should take nothing away from Oscar's achievement. 'Reading fan in Brighton' posted on another thread : ''Triumph for negative football - a very bad day for genuine football fans everywhere!!''. There are 23 other sides in the Championship, but the only comment expressing this opinion was from a Reading fan! Whatever positive, attacking football Reading fans have been provided with this season, it didn't get them enough points. We finished above five clubs who are currently receiving parachute payments, the highest amount being £23m to Reading this season. Perhaps without this massive financial advantage, helping them to continue funding Premier League players, their approach would have been more cautious. This brings us to a subject that Vegas brought up recently, about whether a win is more entertaining than a defeat, even if the match itself was instantly forgettable. A run of 4-3 wins would be hugely entertaining, but defeats by the same margin, not as much so. So does the end justify the means? Oscar has navigated a course into the top six, with very little variation to the style of play. With hindsight, It is easy to point out where he was too negative in the matches where we failed to gain maximum points, but the ones we won don't receive the same scrutiny, and he has produced enough of them to get us into the play-offs. The season has been a success for the players the coaching team, which means that Oscar's methods have been justified. A more adventurous attacking policy at home, like how Reading play for example, could have resulted in a 7th place finish. Would anyone swap for that now? And what about Reading supporters. How much of their positive play would they have been willing to give up to secure a sixth place finish? We all want attacking football, as long as it is winning attacking football. gordongull
  • Score: 15

7:06pm Sun 4 May 14

sussexram40 says...

Battle of 2 men now
McClaren versus Garcia.
That's all it comes down to, a season's football suddenly irrelevant.
2 men. 2 strategies. Its a game of poker and the wiliest, most tactically adept will win the day.
Battle of 2 men now McClaren versus Garcia. That's all it comes down to, a season's football suddenly irrelevant. 2 men. 2 strategies. Its a game of poker and the wiliest, most tactically adept will win the day. sussexram40
  • Score: 2

7:07pm Sun 4 May 14

brightonup says...

At times during this season, I hoped that Oscar would not see the posts on this site - or a least paid no attention to them. Sometimes they have been so negative that they could only undermine the efforts of a management team struggling to succeed against a tide of challenges. At one point, I would not have blamed Oscar for considering moving on.
Yet here we are today with predictably hardly a single critical comment on this thread. Hooray!
By all pulling together we improve our prospects immensely. I hope the critics will remember that in tough times...
At times during this season, I hoped that Oscar would not see the posts on this site - or a least paid no attention to them. Sometimes they have been so negative that they could only undermine the efforts of a management team struggling to succeed against a tide of challenges. At one point, I would not have blamed Oscar for considering moving on. Yet here we are today with predictably hardly a single critical comment on this thread. Hooray! By all pulling together we improve our prospects immensely. I hope the critics will remember that in tough times... brightonup
  • Score: 7

7:11pm Sun 4 May 14

brightonup says...

.... and I also wish Sussexscum40 would resist using tabloid drama to express obvious statements. Better still he could disappear into the ether forever instead of infecting this site!
.... and I also wish Sussexscum40 would resist using tabloid drama to express obvious statements. Better still he could disappear into the ether forever instead of infecting this site! brightonup
  • Score: 3

7:22pm Sun 4 May 14

Hovite says...

sussexram40 wrote:
Battle of 2 men now
McClaren versus Garcia.
That's all it comes down to, a season's football suddenly irrelevant.
2 men. 2 strategies. Its a game of poker and the wiliest, most tactically adept will win the day.
Sunshine and Sangria verses the Wally with a Brolly.
[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: Battle of 2 men now McClaren versus Garcia. That's all it comes down to, a season's football suddenly irrelevant. 2 men. 2 strategies. Its a game of poker and the wiliest, most tactically adept will win the day.[/p][/quote]Sunshine and Sangria verses the Wally with a Brolly. Hovite
  • Score: 6

7:31pm Sun 4 May 14

AlanDuffy says...

gordongull wrote:
Oscar's methods have worked, and as one of the more vociferous critics of his style, I can't argue with that. The fact that all our rivals have shown a greater willingness than us to mess up should take nothing away from Oscar's achievement.
'Reading fan in Brighton' posted on another thread : ''Triumph for negative football - a very bad day for genuine football fans everywhere!!''.
There are 23 other sides in the Championship, but the only comment expressing this opinion was from a Reading fan!
Whatever positive, attacking football Reading fans have been provided with this season, it didn't get them enough points.
We finished above five clubs who are currently receiving parachute payments, the highest amount being £23m to Reading this season. Perhaps without this massive financial advantage, helping them to continue funding Premier League players, their approach would have been more cautious.
This brings us to a subject that Vegas brought up recently, about whether a win is more entertaining than a defeat, even if the match itself was instantly forgettable.
A run of 4-3 wins would be hugely entertaining, but defeats by the same margin, not as much so. So does the end justify the means? Oscar has navigated a course into the top six, with very little variation to the style of play. With hindsight, It is easy to point out where he was too negative in the matches where we failed to gain maximum points, but the ones we won don't receive the same scrutiny, and he has produced enough of them to get us into the play-offs.
The season has been a success for the players the coaching team, which means that Oscar's methods have been justified.
A more adventurous attacking policy at home, like how Reading play for example, could have resulted in a 7th place finish.
Would anyone swap for that now?
And what about Reading supporters. How much of their positive play would they have been willing to give up to secure a sixth place finish?
We all want attacking football, as long as it is winning attacking football.
Spot on, Gordon. One of the posts of the season. The Argus should give you a job!
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: Oscar's methods have worked, and as one of the more vociferous critics of his style, I can't argue with that. The fact that all our rivals have shown a greater willingness than us to mess up should take nothing away from Oscar's achievement. 'Reading fan in Brighton' posted on another thread : ''Triumph for negative football - a very bad day for genuine football fans everywhere!!''. There are 23 other sides in the Championship, but the only comment expressing this opinion was from a Reading fan! Whatever positive, attacking football Reading fans have been provided with this season, it didn't get them enough points. We finished above five clubs who are currently receiving parachute payments, the highest amount being £23m to Reading this season. Perhaps without this massive financial advantage, helping them to continue funding Premier League players, their approach would have been more cautious. This brings us to a subject that Vegas brought up recently, about whether a win is more entertaining than a defeat, even if the match itself was instantly forgettable. A run of 4-3 wins would be hugely entertaining, but defeats by the same margin, not as much so. So does the end justify the means? Oscar has navigated a course into the top six, with very little variation to the style of play. With hindsight, It is easy to point out where he was too negative in the matches where we failed to gain maximum points, but the ones we won don't receive the same scrutiny, and he has produced enough of them to get us into the play-offs. The season has been a success for the players the coaching team, which means that Oscar's methods have been justified. A more adventurous attacking policy at home, like how Reading play for example, could have resulted in a 7th place finish. Would anyone swap for that now? And what about Reading supporters. How much of their positive play would they have been willing to give up to secure a sixth place finish? We all want attacking football, as long as it is winning attacking football.[/p][/quote]Spot on, Gordon. One of the posts of the season. The Argus should give you a job! AlanDuffy
  • Score: 3

7:32pm Sun 4 May 14

daughter-of-manag says...

gordongull wrote:
Oscar's methods have worked, and as one of the more vociferous critics of his style, I can't argue with that. The fact that all our rivals have shown a greater willingness than us to mess up should take nothing away from Oscar's achievement.
'Reading fan in Brighton' posted on another thread : ''Triumph for negative football - a very bad day for genuine football fans everywhere!!''.
There are 23 other sides in the Championship, but the only comment expressing this opinion was from a Reading fan!
Whatever positive, attacking football Reading fans have been provided with this season, it didn't get them enough points.
We finished above five clubs who are currently receiving parachute payments, the highest amount being £23m to Reading this season. Perhaps without this massive financial advantage, helping them to continue funding Premier League players, their approach would have been more cautious.
This brings us to a subject that Vegas brought up recently, about whether a win is more entertaining than a defeat, even if the match itself was instantly forgettable.
A run of 4-3 wins would be hugely entertaining, but defeats by the same margin, not as much so. So does the end justify the means? Oscar has navigated a course into the top six, with very little variation to the style of play. With hindsight, It is easy to point out where he was too negative in the matches where we failed to gain maximum points, but the ones we won don't receive the same scrutiny, and he has produced enough of them to get us into the play-offs.
The season has been a success for the players the coaching team, which means that Oscar's methods have been justified.
A more adventurous attacking policy at home, like how Reading play for example, could have resulted in a 7th place finish.
Would anyone swap for that now?
And what about Reading supporters. How much of their positive play would they have been willing to give up to secure a sixth place finish?
We all want attacking football, as long as it is winning attacking football.
Good post!
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: Oscar's methods have worked, and as one of the more vociferous critics of his style, I can't argue with that. The fact that all our rivals have shown a greater willingness than us to mess up should take nothing away from Oscar's achievement. 'Reading fan in Brighton' posted on another thread : ''Triumph for negative football - a very bad day for genuine football fans everywhere!!''. There are 23 other sides in the Championship, but the only comment expressing this opinion was from a Reading fan! Whatever positive, attacking football Reading fans have been provided with this season, it didn't get them enough points. We finished above five clubs who are currently receiving parachute payments, the highest amount being £23m to Reading this season. Perhaps without this massive financial advantage, helping them to continue funding Premier League players, their approach would have been more cautious. This brings us to a subject that Vegas brought up recently, about whether a win is more entertaining than a defeat, even if the match itself was instantly forgettable. A run of 4-3 wins would be hugely entertaining, but defeats by the same margin, not as much so. So does the end justify the means? Oscar has navigated a course into the top six, with very little variation to the style of play. With hindsight, It is easy to point out where he was too negative in the matches where we failed to gain maximum points, but the ones we won don't receive the same scrutiny, and he has produced enough of them to get us into the play-offs. The season has been a success for the players the coaching team, which means that Oscar's methods have been justified. A more adventurous attacking policy at home, like how Reading play for example, could have resulted in a 7th place finish. Would anyone swap for that now? And what about Reading supporters. How much of their positive play would they have been willing to give up to secure a sixth place finish? We all want attacking football, as long as it is winning attacking football.[/p][/quote]Good post! daughter-of-manag
  • Score: 2

7:35pm Sun 4 May 14

gordongull says...

Don't agree that tactics will be an issue, sussexram40.
McClaren Knows that we will approach the match in the same way, whether we are playing Yeovil or Barcelona.
And Oscar doesn't need tactics (for the same reason).

Can you imagine a 'Cardiffgate' scenario, with Derby county staff phoning contacts in Brighton in an attempt to find out our likely starting line-up, and formation?

Btw,The transfer window is rapidly approaching.
It is comforting to know that through the coaching staff, we potentially have contacts in clubs like Yeovil and BarCa' :-)
Don't agree that tactics will be an issue, sussexram40. McClaren Knows that we will approach the match in the same way, whether we are playing Yeovil or Barcelona. And Oscar doesn't need tactics (for the same reason). Can you imagine a 'Cardiffgate' scenario, with Derby county staff phoning contacts in Brighton in an attempt to find out our likely starting line-up, and formation? Btw,The transfer window is rapidly approaching. It is comforting to know that through the coaching staff, we potentially have contacts in clubs like Yeovil and BarCa' :-) gordongull
  • Score: 3

7:40pm Sun 4 May 14

OldGull says...

gordongull wrote:
Oscar's methods have worked, and as one of the more vociferous critics of his style, I can't argue with that. The fact that all our rivals have shown a greater willingness than us to mess up should take nothing away from Oscar's achievement.
'Reading fan in Brighton' posted on another thread : ''Triumph for negative football - a very bad day for genuine football fans everywhere!!''.
There are 23 other sides in the Championship, but the only comment expressing this opinion was from a Reading fan!
Whatever positive, attacking football Reading fans have been provided with this season, it didn't get them enough points.
We finished above five clubs who are currently receiving parachute payments, the highest amount being £23m to Reading this season. Perhaps without this massive financial advantage, helping them to continue funding Premier League players, their approach would have been more cautious.
This brings us to a subject that Vegas brought up recently, about whether a win is more entertaining than a defeat, even if the match itself was instantly forgettable.
A run of 4-3 wins would be hugely entertaining, but defeats by the same margin, not as much so. So does the end justify the means? Oscar has navigated a course into the top six, with very little variation to the style of play. With hindsight, It is easy to point out where he was too negative in the matches where we failed to gain maximum points, but the ones we won don't receive the same scrutiny, and he has produced enough of them to get us into the play-offs.
The season has been a success for the players the coaching team, which means that Oscar's methods have been justified.
A more adventurous attacking policy at home, like how Reading play for example, could have resulted in a 7th place finish.
Would anyone swap for that now?
And what about Reading supporters. How much of their positive play would they have been willing to give up to secure a sixth place finish?
We all want attacking football, as long as it is winning attacking football.
quality post
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: Oscar's methods have worked, and as one of the more vociferous critics of his style, I can't argue with that. The fact that all our rivals have shown a greater willingness than us to mess up should take nothing away from Oscar's achievement. 'Reading fan in Brighton' posted on another thread : ''Triumph for negative football - a very bad day for genuine football fans everywhere!!''. There are 23 other sides in the Championship, but the only comment expressing this opinion was from a Reading fan! Whatever positive, attacking football Reading fans have been provided with this season, it didn't get them enough points. We finished above five clubs who are currently receiving parachute payments, the highest amount being £23m to Reading this season. Perhaps without this massive financial advantage, helping them to continue funding Premier League players, their approach would have been more cautious. This brings us to a subject that Vegas brought up recently, about whether a win is more entertaining than a defeat, even if the match itself was instantly forgettable. A run of 4-3 wins would be hugely entertaining, but defeats by the same margin, not as much so. So does the end justify the means? Oscar has navigated a course into the top six, with very little variation to the style of play. With hindsight, It is easy to point out where he was too negative in the matches where we failed to gain maximum points, but the ones we won don't receive the same scrutiny, and he has produced enough of them to get us into the play-offs. The season has been a success for the players the coaching team, which means that Oscar's methods have been justified. A more adventurous attacking policy at home, like how Reading play for example, could have resulted in a 7th place finish. Would anyone swap for that now? And what about Reading supporters. How much of their positive play would they have been willing to give up to secure a sixth place finish? We all want attacking football, as long as it is winning attacking football.[/p][/quote]quality post OldGull
  • Score: 1

7:43pm Sun 4 May 14

gordongull says...

Thanks for the compliments regarding my first post.
Not sure the second one will get the same approval!
Thanks for the compliments regarding my first post. Not sure the second one will get the same approval! gordongull
  • Score: 0

7:49pm Sun 4 May 14

fairweathersupporter says...

brightonup wrote:
At times during this season, I hoped that Oscar would not see the posts on this site - or a least paid no attention to them. Sometimes they have been so negative that they could only undermine the efforts of a management team struggling to succeed against a tide of challenges. At one point, I would not have blamed Oscar for considering moving on.
Yet here we are today with predictably hardly a single critical comment on this thread. Hooray!
By all pulling together we improve our prospects immensely. I hope the critics will remember that in tough times...
I have had a word with myself brightonup BUT... Whilst trying to be constructive in my criticism most of the time and having a fence post up my jacksy for the rest of it, i still think we have overachieved and this is not being negative. I bathe in the optimism of the lottery before us and praise the achievement that looked unlikely at best.
BUT last season felt justified; this season: lucky. Last season we dominated games. This season we controlled them for the main but were lack luster and at times quite dull. Not always the better side at home, where we were last year. But and it's a HUGE 'BUT, a ''but' to dwarf any subsequent 'BUTS'.... But we are only three points worse off than last season. We are in the play offs again. And that is all that counts.
BUT we don't just look at statistics do we (or do we...) We have been able to field a side full of quality in the main (and the bench has been fairly well stocked on most occasions). We have of course had injuries. Bridcutt and Barnes gone and a number of other 'excuses'. We should however not get carried away BUT i agree that some of the criticism on here has been harsh.
Our opinions are just that BUT the jury is still out on OG. If he leads us to the 'promised land' then i think he could possibly considered to be lucky and hopefully become brilliant. BUT he is not a stupid man, he is not a bad man. His coaching abilities are possibly not in question. His man management skills and ability to motivate perhaps are. Seeing him yesterday, release himself in unrehearsed joy has perhaps warmed me more than all the sound bytes and cliche's thus far. I know that joy and shared it with him as i have shared it with others on occasions such as this. The way the players reacted has assured me that rumours are perhaps just that. He has built his platform and it remains to be seen whether he can address the throng or climb the gallows.
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: At times during this season, I hoped that Oscar would not see the posts on this site - or a least paid no attention to them. Sometimes they have been so negative that they could only undermine the efforts of a management team struggling to succeed against a tide of challenges. At one point, I would not have blamed Oscar for considering moving on. Yet here we are today with predictably hardly a single critical comment on this thread. Hooray! By all pulling together we improve our prospects immensely. I hope the critics will remember that in tough times...[/p][/quote]I have had a word with myself brightonup BUT... Whilst trying to be constructive in my criticism most of the time and having a fence post up my jacksy for the rest of it, i still think we have overachieved and this is not being negative. I bathe in the optimism of the lottery before us and praise the achievement that looked unlikely at best. BUT last season felt justified; this season: lucky. Last season we dominated games. This season we controlled them for the main but were lack luster and at times quite dull. Not always the better side at home, where we were last year. But and it's a HUGE 'BUT, a ''but' to dwarf any subsequent 'BUTS'.... But we are only three points worse off than last season. We are in the play offs again. And that is all that counts. BUT we don't just look at statistics do we (or do we...) We have been able to field a side full of quality in the main (and the bench has been fairly well stocked on most occasions). We have of course had injuries. Bridcutt and Barnes gone and a number of other 'excuses'. We should however not get carried away BUT i agree that some of the criticism on here has been harsh. Our opinions are just that BUT the jury is still out on OG. If he leads us to the 'promised land' then i think he could possibly considered to be lucky and hopefully become brilliant. BUT he is not a stupid man, he is not a bad man. His coaching abilities are possibly not in question. His man management skills and ability to motivate perhaps are. Seeing him yesterday, release himself in unrehearsed joy has perhaps warmed me more than all the sound bytes and cliche's thus far. I know that joy and shared it with him as i have shared it with others on occasions such as this. The way the players reacted has assured me that rumours are perhaps just that. He has built his platform and it remains to be seen whether he can address the throng or climb the gallows. fairweathersupporter
  • Score: 7

8:01pm Sun 4 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

gordongull wrote:
Oscar's methods have worked, and as one of the more vociferous critics of his style, I can't argue with that. The fact that all our rivals have shown a greater willingness than us to mess up should take nothing away from Oscar's achievement.
'Reading fan in Brighton' posted on another thread : ''Triumph for negative football - a very bad day for genuine football fans everywhere!!''.
There are 23 other sides in the Championship, but the only comment expressing this opinion was from a Reading fan!
Whatever positive, attacking football Reading fans have been provided with this season, it didn't get them enough points.
We finished above five clubs who are currently receiving parachute payments, the highest amount being £23m to Reading this season. Perhaps without this massive financial advantage, helping them to continue funding Premier League players, their approach would have been more cautious.
This brings us to a subject that Vegas brought up recently, about whether a win is more entertaining than a defeat, even if the match itself was instantly forgettable.
A run of 4-3 wins would be hugely entertaining, but defeats by the same margin, not as much so. So does the end justify the means? Oscar has navigated a course into the top six, with very little variation to the style of play. With hindsight, It is easy to point out where he was too negative in the matches where we failed to gain maximum points, but the ones we won don't receive the same scrutiny, and he has produced enough of them to get us into the play-offs.
The season has been a success for the players the coaching team, which means that Oscar's methods have been justified.
A more adventurous attacking policy at home, like how Reading play for example, could have resulted in a 7th place finish.
Would anyone swap for that now?
And what about Reading supporters. How much of their positive play would they have been willing to give up to secure a sixth place finish?
We all want attacking football, as long as it is winning attacking football.
yeah the question I posed was, is it better to be entertained but lose, or win with what might be considered a less entertaining performance. Playing the style Oscar has opted for has us in the play-offs, is that better than the entertaiment level?
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: Oscar's methods have worked, and as one of the more vociferous critics of his style, I can't argue with that. The fact that all our rivals have shown a greater willingness than us to mess up should take nothing away from Oscar's achievement. 'Reading fan in Brighton' posted on another thread : ''Triumph for negative football - a very bad day for genuine football fans everywhere!!''. There are 23 other sides in the Championship, but the only comment expressing this opinion was from a Reading fan! Whatever positive, attacking football Reading fans have been provided with this season, it didn't get them enough points. We finished above five clubs who are currently receiving parachute payments, the highest amount being £23m to Reading this season. Perhaps without this massive financial advantage, helping them to continue funding Premier League players, their approach would have been more cautious. This brings us to a subject that Vegas brought up recently, about whether a win is more entertaining than a defeat, even if the match itself was instantly forgettable. A run of 4-3 wins would be hugely entertaining, but defeats by the same margin, not as much so. So does the end justify the means? Oscar has navigated a course into the top six, with very little variation to the style of play. With hindsight, It is easy to point out where he was too negative in the matches where we failed to gain maximum points, but the ones we won don't receive the same scrutiny, and he has produced enough of them to get us into the play-offs. The season has been a success for the players the coaching team, which means that Oscar's methods have been justified. A more adventurous attacking policy at home, like how Reading play for example, could have resulted in a 7th place finish. Would anyone swap for that now? And what about Reading supporters. How much of their positive play would they have been willing to give up to secure a sixth place finish? We all want attacking football, as long as it is winning attacking football.[/p][/quote]yeah the question I posed was, is it better to be entertained but lose, or win with what might be considered a less entertaining performance. Playing the style Oscar has opted for has us in the play-offs, is that better than the entertaiment level? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

9:30pm Sun 4 May 14

gordongull says...

Yes, Vegas, entertainment levels have been disappointing at times, but I wouldn't risk turning the clock back and trying again with more attacking intent. We are now in a situation which is not only far more 'entertaining' than that being experienced by the clubs who missed out, but gives us a chance of top flight football next season.

To all: My post about tactics etc. is an antidote to the more serious one, and shouldn't be taken too seriously!
Yes, Vegas, entertainment levels have been disappointing at times, but I wouldn't risk turning the clock back and trying again with more attacking intent. We are now in a situation which is not only far more 'entertaining' than that being experienced by the clubs who missed out, but gives us a chance of top flight football next season. To all: My post about tactics etc. is an antidote to the more serious one, and shouldn't be taken too seriously! gordongull
  • Score: 3

9:49pm Sun 4 May 14

ringtone says...

brightonup wrote:
At times during this season, I hoped that Oscar would not see the posts on this site - or a least paid no attention to them. Sometimes they have been so negative that they could only undermine the efforts of a management team struggling to succeed against a tide of challenges. At one point, I would not have blamed Oscar for considering moving on.
Yet here we are today with predictably hardly a single critical comment on this thread. Hooray!
By all pulling together we improve our prospects immensely. I hope the critics will remember that in tough times...
Dont worry, Oscar wont bother comming to this site he aint that sad.
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: At times during this season, I hoped that Oscar would not see the posts on this site - or a least paid no attention to them. Sometimes they have been so negative that they could only undermine the efforts of a management team struggling to succeed against a tide of challenges. At one point, I would not have blamed Oscar for considering moving on. Yet here we are today with predictably hardly a single critical comment on this thread. Hooray! By all pulling together we improve our prospects immensely. I hope the critics will remember that in tough times...[/p][/quote]Dont worry, Oscar wont bother comming to this site he aint that sad. ringtone
  • Score: -1

10:24pm Sun 4 May 14

brightonup says...

fairweathersupporter wrote:
brightonup wrote:
At times during this season, I hoped that Oscar would not see the posts on this site - or a least paid no attention to them. Sometimes they have been so negative that they could only undermine the efforts of a management team struggling to succeed against a tide of challenges. At one point, I would not have blamed Oscar for considering moving on.
Yet here we are today with predictably hardly a single critical comment on this thread. Hooray!
By all pulling together we improve our prospects immensely. I hope the critics will remember that in tough times...
I have had a word with myself brightonup BUT... Whilst trying to be constructive in my criticism most of the time and having a fence post up my jacksy for the rest of it, i still think we have overachieved and this is not being negative. I bathe in the optimism of the lottery before us and praise the achievement that looked unlikely at best.
BUT last season felt justified; this season: lucky. Last season we dominated games. This season we controlled them for the main but were lack luster and at times quite dull. Not always the better side at home, where we were last year. But and it's a HUGE 'BUT, a ''but' to dwarf any subsequent 'BUTS'.... But we are only three points worse off than last season. We are in the play offs again. And that is all that counts.
BUT we don't just look at statistics do we (or do we...) We have been able to field a side full of quality in the main (and the bench has been fairly well stocked on most occasions). We have of course had injuries. Bridcutt and Barnes gone and a number of other 'excuses'. We should however not get carried away BUT i agree that some of the criticism on here has been harsh.
Our opinions are just that BUT the jury is still out on OG. If he leads us to the 'promised land' then i think he could possibly considered to be lucky and hopefully become brilliant. BUT he is not a stupid man, he is not a bad man. His coaching abilities are possibly not in question. His man management skills and ability to motivate perhaps are. Seeing him yesterday, release himself in unrehearsed joy has perhaps warmed me more than all the sound bytes and cliche's thus far. I know that joy and shared it with him as i have shared it with others on occasions such as this. The way the players reacted has assured me that rumours are perhaps just that. He has built his platform and it remains to be seen whether he can address the throng or climb the gallows.
I agree that we have overachieved. The difference between us would appear to be an assessment of the reason for that. For instance, for several matches we had three strikers out injured (all of whom are still on the payroll - so no chance of quality replacement); for me, it was no surprise that the emphasis was on defence. Logically this is a unattractive approach, but in a results-based sport like football, it seemed the best way to achieve success!
In my opinion, sustained success will only be achieved by sustained support. In other words, give them a chance!
[quote][p][bold]fairweathersupporter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: At times during this season, I hoped that Oscar would not see the posts on this site - or a least paid no attention to them. Sometimes they have been so negative that they could only undermine the efforts of a management team struggling to succeed against a tide of challenges. At one point, I would not have blamed Oscar for considering moving on. Yet here we are today with predictably hardly a single critical comment on this thread. Hooray! By all pulling together we improve our prospects immensely. I hope the critics will remember that in tough times...[/p][/quote]I have had a word with myself brightonup BUT... Whilst trying to be constructive in my criticism most of the time and having a fence post up my jacksy for the rest of it, i still think we have overachieved and this is not being negative. I bathe in the optimism of the lottery before us and praise the achievement that looked unlikely at best. BUT last season felt justified; this season: lucky. Last season we dominated games. This season we controlled them for the main but were lack luster and at times quite dull. Not always the better side at home, where we were last year. But and it's a HUGE 'BUT, a ''but' to dwarf any subsequent 'BUTS'.... But we are only three points worse off than last season. We are in the play offs again. And that is all that counts. BUT we don't just look at statistics do we (or do we...) We have been able to field a side full of quality in the main (and the bench has been fairly well stocked on most occasions). We have of course had injuries. Bridcutt and Barnes gone and a number of other 'excuses'. We should however not get carried away BUT i agree that some of the criticism on here has been harsh. Our opinions are just that BUT the jury is still out on OG. If he leads us to the 'promised land' then i think he could possibly considered to be lucky and hopefully become brilliant. BUT he is not a stupid man, he is not a bad man. His coaching abilities are possibly not in question. His man management skills and ability to motivate perhaps are. Seeing him yesterday, release himself in unrehearsed joy has perhaps warmed me more than all the sound bytes and cliche's thus far. I know that joy and shared it with him as i have shared it with others on occasions such as this. The way the players reacted has assured me that rumours are perhaps just that. He has built his platform and it remains to be seen whether he can address the throng or climb the gallows.[/p][/quote]I agree that we have overachieved. The difference between us would appear to be an assessment of the reason for that. For instance, for several matches we had three strikers out injured (all of whom are still on the payroll - so no chance of quality replacement); for me, it was no surprise that the emphasis was on defence. Logically this is a unattractive approach, but in a results-based sport like football, it seemed the best way to achieve success! In my opinion, sustained success will only be achieved by sustained support. In other words, give them a chance! brightonup
  • Score: 5

10:26pm Sun 4 May 14

Aldrington Halt says...

Hovite wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
It's just fun now isn't it, no pressure of the players, our place in the top six is a bonus for what has been a difficult season. When we play Derby my hope is that the lads look on it as they would an FA Cup match, take the park and enjoy the moment and go for a win, if over the two legs it dosen't pan out, well it was fun whilst it lasted.
They have beaten us twice this season, although their second win was against the run of play was lucky.

With two more games against them by the law of averages we will win one of them, and may draw the other.
I like your way of thinking Hovite and Vegas, there is a certain air of fun involved from this point on we've achieved this seasons mandate and more so any result from here on is a bonus, although if it comes down to penalties there's no avoiding the stress! We're probably seen as the dangerous outsider here and won't be under estimated and I love the fact we have played our game this season despite many setbacks and for the most part stayed unified under pressure against more qualified opponents so now the likes of CMS and Orlandi are back and adding weight to the side the 1:4 chance for promotion is up for grabs and promotion now not such a wild notion..Whatever the outcome now, as a Fan, player or coach we can be proud of this seasons overall performance. UTA!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: It's just fun now isn't it, no pressure of the players, our place in the top six is a bonus for what has been a difficult season. When we play Derby my hope is that the lads look on it as they would an FA Cup match, take the park and enjoy the moment and go for a win, if over the two legs it dosen't pan out, well it was fun whilst it lasted.[/p][/quote]They have beaten us twice this season, although their second win was against the run of play was lucky. With two more games against them by the law of averages we will win one of them, and may draw the other.[/p][/quote]I like your way of thinking Hovite and Vegas, there is a certain air of fun involved from this point on we've achieved this seasons mandate and more so any result from here on is a bonus, although if it comes down to penalties there's no avoiding the stress! We're probably seen as the dangerous outsider here and won't be under estimated and I love the fact we have played our game this season despite many setbacks and for the most part stayed unified under pressure against more qualified opponents so now the likes of CMS and Orlandi are back and adding weight to the side the 1:4 chance for promotion is up for grabs and promotion now not such a wild notion..Whatever the outcome now, as a Fan, player or coach we can be proud of this seasons overall performance. UTA!!!! Aldrington Halt
  • Score: 5

12:37am Mon 5 May 14

c.s.holmes says...

2 more games and your seasons over, you are not as big as you think you are
2 more games and your seasons over, you are not as big as you think you are c.s.holmes
  • Score: -9

12:46am Mon 5 May 14

pte says...

Normally having the away match first is considered an advantage but I think with Brighton that's not the case as was shown last time. I think it may work in our favor to have the away leg last.

Don't know how fit CMS is but if fully fit should be given more playing time
Normally having the away match first is considered an advantage but I think with Brighton that's not the case as was shown last time. I think it may work in our favor to have the away leg last. Don't know how fit CMS is but if fully fit should be given more playing time pte
  • Score: 5

1:32am Mon 5 May 14

championshipgull says...

Good article in the Star today featuring CMS

Brighton's Craig Mackail-Smith has his eyes set on Wembley after late victory over Forest

http://www.dailystar
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Good article in the Star today featuring CMS Brighton's Craig Mackail-Smith has his eyes set on Wembley after late victory over Forest http://www.dailystar .co.uk/sport/footbal l/377376/Brighton-s- Craig-Mackail-Smith- has-his-eyes-set-on- Wembley-after-late-v ictory-over-Forest championshipgull
  • Score: 4

6:39am Mon 5 May 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Uckfield Seagull wrote:
Whether its by luck, judgement or whatever Oscar deserves lots of credit for getting the Albion into the play offs, albeit by the skin of our neck, some people like managers who rant and rave, Holloway, Warnock etc etc but I cant help but praise Oscar for the way he has handled himself this season, a season which has been very tough as your first.
It's interesting (and I'm not knocking you U.S.) how as fans, our opinions change on the basis of results, not actions.
When it looked like a dead season a couple of months ago, people were lamenting OG's lack of enthusiasm on the touchline, now his approach is considered an asset. Hindsight is a wonderful thing!
OG has done a remarkable job getting the squad this far. I still don't believe we're good enough to go up, but sincerely hope the club gets the chance to prove me wrong.
But whatever happens, OG should now be appreciated as a class act who's methods of assessment, coaching and motivation clearly work. He's squeezed the best out of a thin group and for that we should be grateful.
[quote][p][bold]Uckfield Seagull[/bold] wrote: Whether its by luck, judgement or whatever Oscar deserves lots of credit for getting the Albion into the play offs, albeit by the skin of our neck, some people like managers who rant and rave, Holloway, Warnock etc etc but I cant help but praise Oscar for the way he has handled himself this season, a season which has been very tough as your first.[/p][/quote]It's interesting (and I'm not knocking you U.S.) how as fans, our opinions change on the basis of results, not actions. When it looked like a dead season a couple of months ago, people were lamenting OG's lack of enthusiasm on the touchline, now his approach is considered an asset. Hindsight is a wonderful thing! OG has done a remarkable job getting the squad this far. I still don't believe we're good enough to go up, but sincerely hope the club gets the chance to prove me wrong. But whatever happens, OG should now be appreciated as a class act who's methods of assessment, coaching and motivation clearly work. He's squeezed the best out of a thin group and for that we should be grateful. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 5

7:44am Mon 5 May 14

Alfie T says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Uckfield Seagull wrote:
Whether its by luck, judgement or whatever Oscar deserves lots of credit for getting the Albion into the play offs, albeit by the skin of our neck, some people like managers who rant and rave, Holloway, Warnock etc etc but I cant help but praise Oscar for the way he has handled himself this season, a season which has been very tough as your first.
It's interesting (and I'm not knocking you U.S.) how as fans, our opinions change on the basis of results, not actions.
When it looked like a dead season a couple of months ago, people were lamenting OG's lack of enthusiasm on the touchline, now his approach is considered an asset. Hindsight is a wonderful thing!
OG has done a remarkable job getting the squad this far. I still don't believe we're good enough to go up, but sincerely hope the club gets the chance to prove me wrong.
But whatever happens, OG should now be appreciated as a class act who's methods of assessment, coaching and motivation clearly work. He's squeezed the best out of a thin group and for that we should be grateful.
Agree totally, OG took the Albion on at a very difficult time, post Poyet, inherited an injured squad physically and emotionally. I've had a moan at team selection myself this season, as Tug did the other day, apologies Tug I was drunk and emotional after the Forest game.
Huge amount of credit must go to OG for our place in the play offs, and if our season ends next Sunday then there will be no complaints from me.

Anyone else like to see Calde alongside OG as assistant player manager,what passion he has for our club, a real Albion legend IMO.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uckfield Seagull[/bold] wrote: Whether its by luck, judgement or whatever Oscar deserves lots of credit for getting the Albion into the play offs, albeit by the skin of our neck, some people like managers who rant and rave, Holloway, Warnock etc etc but I cant help but praise Oscar for the way he has handled himself this season, a season which has been very tough as your first.[/p][/quote]It's interesting (and I'm not knocking you U.S.) how as fans, our opinions change on the basis of results, not actions. When it looked like a dead season a couple of months ago, people were lamenting OG's lack of enthusiasm on the touchline, now his approach is considered an asset. Hindsight is a wonderful thing! OG has done a remarkable job getting the squad this far. I still don't believe we're good enough to go up, but sincerely hope the club gets the chance to prove me wrong. But whatever happens, OG should now be appreciated as a class act who's methods of assessment, coaching and motivation clearly work. He's squeezed the best out of a thin group and for that we should be grateful.[/p][/quote]Agree totally, OG took the Albion on at a very difficult time, post Poyet, inherited an injured squad physically and emotionally. I've had a moan at team selection myself this season, as Tug did the other day, apologies Tug I was drunk and emotional after the Forest game. Huge amount of credit must go to OG for our place in the play offs, and if our season ends next Sunday then there will be no complaints from me. Anyone else like to see Calde alongside OG as assistant player manager,what passion he has for our club, a real Albion legend IMO. Alfie T
  • Score: 6

1:22pm Mon 5 May 14

OldGull says...

c.s.holmes wrote:
2 more games and your seasons over, you are not as big as you think you are
Maybe , Maybe not
If you are as big as you think you are you will inform us which club you support
[quote][p][bold]c.s.holmes[/bold] wrote: 2 more games and your seasons over, you are not as big as you think you are[/p][/quote]Maybe , Maybe not If you are as big as you think you are you will inform us which club you support OldGull
  • Score: 4

1:24pm Mon 5 May 14

OldGull says...

ringtone wrote:
brightonup wrote:
At times during this season, I hoped that Oscar would not see the posts on this site - or a least paid no attention to them. Sometimes they have been so negative that they could only undermine the efforts of a management team struggling to succeed against a tide of challenges. At one point, I would not have blamed Oscar for considering moving on.
Yet here we are today with predictably hardly a single critical comment on this thread. Hooray!
By all pulling together we improve our prospects immensely. I hope the critics will remember that in tough times...
Dont worry, Oscar wont bother comming to this site he aint that sad.
whereas.............
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: At times during this season, I hoped that Oscar would not see the posts on this site - or a least paid no attention to them. Sometimes they have been so negative that they could only undermine the efforts of a management team struggling to succeed against a tide of challenges. At one point, I would not have blamed Oscar for considering moving on. Yet here we are today with predictably hardly a single critical comment on this thread. Hooray! By all pulling together we improve our prospects immensely. I hope the critics will remember that in tough times...[/p][/quote]Dont worry, Oscar wont bother comming to this site he aint that sad.[/p][/quote]whereas............. OldGull
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