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History helpful to Albion in the play-offs

The Argus: Former Albion legend Bobby Zamora was a play-off winner with West Ham after they finished sixth Former Albion legend Bobby Zamora was a play-off winner with West Ham after they finished sixth

Albion can derive inspiration from a former favourite, their bitter rivals and another seaside resort in their bid to reach the Premier League.

Three clubs in the last ten years have won the Championship play-offs after finishing sixth.

Crystal Palace managed it in 2003-04, the season Albion were promoted themselves in the League One play-offs.

Palace's victims in the final, West Ham, made amends the following season after finishing sixth, Bobby Zamora scoring the winner against Preston.

The last club to make it from sixth were Blackpool in 2009-10. Like Albion they were outside the play-offs for most of the season, only rising back into 6th with a win in their penultimate home game - against Nottingham Forest.

Derby are hoping for a repeat of 2006-07, when they won the play-offs after finishing third. The team finishing third has triumphed in five of the last eight years.

History does not favour QPR. No side finishing fourth have won the play-offs since Charlton in 1997-98.

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12:25pm Tue 6 May 14

Uckfield Seagull says...

I hope we go for it from the off after last years dabacle, we have a great chance, a freebie, I feel we are a much better team when we force the pace, use our attacking talent rather than going the slow slow method, lets get Lua Lua and Buckley flying down the wings with Ulloa and one other up top, either the way, come on you seagullsssssssssssss
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I hope we go for it from the off after last years dabacle, we have a great chance, a freebie, I feel we are a much better team when we force the pace, use our attacking talent rather than going the slow slow method, lets get Lua Lua and Buckley flying down the wings with Ulloa and one other up top, either the way, come on you seagullsssssssssssss sssssssssssssssssss Uckfield Seagull
  • Score: 12

1:01pm Tue 6 May 14

fratsomrover says...

Play-offs are really nervous affairs and the best team over the season often fails to prevail. Derby have beaten us twice but that doesn't mean they'll beat us four times. In fact I'd say it's highly unlikely they would beat us 4 times in a season and they probably know that too which only adds to the pressure already on them.
I'm very optimistic about our chances. On paper we have nothing to lose as we're the underdogs and they have it all to lose.
I hope we play a positive style and for once, how nice it would be to get an early goal, as v Leicester. That would really get the crowd up and add even more to tension to them. They are a young side and quite flamboyant in their style, so it will be interesting to see how they fare against our experienced players.
Play-offs are really nervous affairs and the best team over the season often fails to prevail. Derby have beaten us twice but that doesn't mean they'll beat us four times. In fact I'd say it's highly unlikely they would beat us 4 times in a season and they probably know that too which only adds to the pressure already on them. I'm very optimistic about our chances. On paper we have nothing to lose as we're the underdogs and they have it all to lose. I hope we play a positive style and for once, how nice it would be to get an early goal, as v Leicester. That would really get the crowd up and add even more to tension to them. They are a young side and quite flamboyant in their style, so it will be interesting to see how they fare against our experienced players. fratsomrover
  • Score: 10

1:07pm Tue 6 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

fratsomrover wrote:
Play-offs are really nervous affairs and the best team over the season often fails to prevail. Derby have beaten us twice but that doesn't mean they'll beat us four times. In fact I'd say it's highly unlikely they would beat us 4 times in a season and they probably know that too which only adds to the pressure already on them.
I'm very optimistic about our chances. On paper we have nothing to lose as we're the underdogs and they have it all to lose.
I hope we play a positive style and for once, how nice it would be to get an early goal, as v Leicester. That would really get the crowd up and add even more to tension to them. They are a young side and quite flamboyant in their style, so it will be interesting to see how they fare against our experienced players.
they have also scored a whole lot of goals this season, thier youthful approach up against our experienced back five, should be quite a contest, if they come to win that is.
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: Play-offs are really nervous affairs and the best team over the season often fails to prevail. Derby have beaten us twice but that doesn't mean they'll beat us four times. In fact I'd say it's highly unlikely they would beat us 4 times in a season and they probably know that too which only adds to the pressure already on them. I'm very optimistic about our chances. On paper we have nothing to lose as we're the underdogs and they have it all to lose. I hope we play a positive style and for once, how nice it would be to get an early goal, as v Leicester. That would really get the crowd up and add even more to tension to them. They are a young side and quite flamboyant in their style, so it will be interesting to see how they fare against our experienced players.[/p][/quote]they have also scored a whole lot of goals this season, thier youthful approach up against our experienced back five, should be quite a contest, if they come to win that is. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

1:22pm Tue 6 May 14

Diliusdog2 says...

Off topic. Looking at the Stand Area Selection page on the clubs ticketing website, there seems to be a hell of a lot of spare seats going?! Come one lets fill the place! (I've got my ticket)
Off topic. Looking at the Stand Area Selection page on the clubs ticketing website, there seems to be a hell of a lot of spare seats going?! Come one lets fill the place! (I've got my ticket) Diliusdog2
  • Score: 5

1:30pm Tue 6 May 14

CantUseNSCatWork says...

How is the history of "3 teams in the last 10 years have got promoted from 6th" helpful? Surely that also means 7 haven't.
How is the history of "3 teams in the last 10 years have got promoted from 6th" helpful? Surely that also means 7 haven't. CantUseNSCatWork
  • Score: -7

1:43pm Tue 6 May 14

Cap'n Pugwash says...

Diliusdog2 wrote:
Off topic. Looking at the Stand Area Selection page on the clubs ticketing website, there seems to be a hell of a lot of spare seats going?! Come one lets fill the place! (I've got my ticket)
They don't go on General Sale yet...plenty of time to move the remaining tickets.
[quote][p][bold]Diliusdog2[/bold] wrote: Off topic. Looking at the Stand Area Selection page on the clubs ticketing website, there seems to be a hell of a lot of spare seats going?! Come one lets fill the place! (I've got my ticket)[/p][/quote]They don't go on General Sale yet...plenty of time to move the remaining tickets. Cap'n Pugwash
  • Score: 3

2:05pm Tue 6 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

The build-up begins in earnest from this moment. In 54 hours our destiny begins to play out. We have greater experience and a stingy defence - though they haven't been much more charitable than us since McClaren took over. They have more of a youthful outfit with plenty of attacking inclination. They like the ball to feet, play quick incisive football and get men forward so we'll have to be on our guard.

The scene may be set early on if it's a fiery start for either side. However it may be a much cagier affair. It's impossible to know in advance but traditionally playoffs can be livelier than other cup tie competitions.

I feel confident that if we win the first match, even by a slender margin, that we can go all the way through to Wembley. A draw would leave us with more to do and obviously a defeat would leave us right up against it, but even then I would still feel confident pulling something off given our decent away form this season.

Our record against all the other top sides is good and we owe Derby one (well two actually!) so it's time to redress the balance.

I fancy CMS to play some sort of further part in the story.

If we don't manage to go all the way, we can still say is been a great season overall given the turmoil in the summer and early season plus all the injuries throughout. Having got this far of course I would be disappointed not to get promoted but we've effectively matched last season's achievements already (including in the FA Cup).

Could this be our time though? It's been a long, LONG road back from the 80s.
The build-up begins in earnest from this moment. In 54 hours our destiny begins to play out. We have greater experience and a stingy defence - though they haven't been much more charitable than us since McClaren took over. They have more of a youthful outfit with plenty of attacking inclination. They like the ball to feet, play quick incisive football and get men forward so we'll have to be on our guard. The scene may be set early on if it's a fiery start for either side. However it may be a much cagier affair. It's impossible to know in advance but traditionally playoffs can be livelier than other cup tie competitions. I feel confident that if we win the first match, even by a slender margin, that we can go all the way through to Wembley. A draw would leave us with more to do and obviously a defeat would leave us right up against it, but even then I would still feel confident pulling something off given our decent away form this season. Our record against all the other top sides is good and we owe Derby one (well two actually!) so it's time to redress the balance. I fancy CMS to play some sort of further part in the story. If we don't manage to go all the way, we can still say is been a great season overall given the turmoil in the summer and early season plus all the injuries throughout. Having got this far of course I would be disappointed not to get promoted but we've effectively matched last season's achievements already (including in the FA Cup). Could this be our time though? It's been a long, LONG road back from the 80s. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 14

2:38pm Tue 6 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

Hi Captain.
Taking your last paragrah, and thinking about what it might mean if we do not get promotion, next season could see the pressure ramped up on Oscar, not from the board but from parts of the fan base.
Last year we made the play-offs under Poyet's direction. This year, with a far from adequate pre-season, Oscar has got us to the play-offs once again. Next year Oscar will start the season with the chance of forming his squad and tactics, the year will be all his. I can see expectations for next season being raised, (if we don't go up this year).

I don't think that there will ever be a time when we will hear Bloom say, 'promotion this year (any year),' is the target, by saying this way too much pressure is placed on the coach and players.
Although we may not hear the words spoken by Bloom, I think we will all know when the drive for the top is serious, those we sign and the money we invest in the squad will tell us all we need to know.
Hi Captain. Taking your last paragrah, and thinking about what it might mean if we do not get promotion, next season could see the pressure ramped up on Oscar, not from the board but from parts of the fan base. Last year we made the play-offs under Poyet's direction. This year, with a far from adequate pre-season, Oscar has got us to the play-offs once again. Next year Oscar will start the season with the chance of forming his squad and tactics, the year will be all his. I can see expectations for next season being raised, (if we don't go up this year). I don't think that there will ever be a time when we will hear Bloom say, 'promotion this year (any year),' is the target, by saying this way too much pressure is placed on the coach and players. Although we may not hear the words spoken by Bloom, I think we will all know when the drive for the top is serious, those we sign and the money we invest in the squad will tell us all we need to know. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

3:09pm Tue 6 May 14

cybergu11y says...

You've got to be in it to win it, or so the saying goes. Despite all the summer upheaval, we are in it. OG can take some credit for that but ultimately it is the players who make the difference. After such a roller coaster of a season, it is time for some of our bigger named players to step up and justify the money spent on them. Ii have no doubt they will. If they do so, they will be top flight players, if not, for many, their Albion days may be numbered.
You've got to be in it to win it, or so the saying goes. Despite all the summer upheaval, we are in it. OG can take some credit for that but ultimately it is the players who make the difference. After such a roller coaster of a season, it is time for some of our bigger named players to step up and justify the money spent on them. Ii have no doubt they will. If they do so, they will be top flight players, if not, for many, their Albion days may be numbered. cybergu11y
  • Score: -3

3:49pm Tue 6 May 14

Gee Jay says...

Look at the teams in the top six that Albion have played and taken points off, and look at how Derby have done this season against Leicester,Burnley,QP
R and Wigan.
Albion have done worse than Derby against the mid and bottom clubs.
I really do fancy our chances.
Look at the teams in the top six that Albion have played and taken points off, and look at how Derby have done this season against Leicester,Burnley,QP R and Wigan. Albion have done worse than Derby against the mid and bottom clubs. I really do fancy our chances. Gee Jay
  • Score: 7

5:16pm Tue 6 May 14

hannover seagull says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
The build-up begins in earnest from this moment. In 54 hours our destiny begins to play out. We have greater experience and a stingy defence - though they haven't been much more charitable than us since McClaren took over. They have more of a youthful outfit with plenty of attacking inclination. They like the ball to feet, play quick incisive football and get men forward so we'll have to be on our guard.

The scene may be set early on if it's a fiery start for either side. However it may be a much cagier affair. It's impossible to know in advance but traditionally playoffs can be livelier than other cup tie competitions.

I feel confident that if we win the first match, even by a slender margin, that we can go all the way through to Wembley. A draw would leave us with more to do and obviously a defeat would leave us right up against it, but even then I would still feel confident pulling something off given our decent away form this season.

Our record against all the other top sides is good and we owe Derby one (well two actually!) so it's time to redress the balance.

I fancy CMS to play some sort of further part in the story.

If we don't manage to go all the way, we can still say is been a great season overall given the turmoil in the summer and early season plus all the injuries throughout. Having got this far of course I would be disappointed not to get promoted but we've effectively matched last season's achievements already (including in the FA Cup).

Could this be our time though? It's been a long, LONG road back from the 80s.
Spot on Captain
Thanks for saving me a long post along the same lines
Its all about nerves and backbone now and flash of brilliance could change everything
UTA........
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: The build-up begins in earnest from this moment. In 54 hours our destiny begins to play out. We have greater experience and a stingy defence - though they haven't been much more charitable than us since McClaren took over. They have more of a youthful outfit with plenty of attacking inclination. They like the ball to feet, play quick incisive football and get men forward so we'll have to be on our guard. The scene may be set early on if it's a fiery start for either side. However it may be a much cagier affair. It's impossible to know in advance but traditionally playoffs can be livelier than other cup tie competitions. I feel confident that if we win the first match, even by a slender margin, that we can go all the way through to Wembley. A draw would leave us with more to do and obviously a defeat would leave us right up against it, but even then I would still feel confident pulling something off given our decent away form this season. Our record against all the other top sides is good and we owe Derby one (well two actually!) so it's time to redress the balance. I fancy CMS to play some sort of further part in the story. If we don't manage to go all the way, we can still say is been a great season overall given the turmoil in the summer and early season plus all the injuries throughout. Having got this far of course I would be disappointed not to get promoted but we've effectively matched last season's achievements already (including in the FA Cup). Could this be our time though? It's been a long, LONG road back from the 80s.[/p][/quote]Spot on Captain Thanks for saving me a long post along the same lines Its all about nerves and backbone now and flash of brilliance could change everything UTA........ hannover seagull
  • Score: 3

5:17pm Tue 6 May 14

pablobrowno says...

Any excuse to get a photo of Bobby Zamora in an article!

I'll tell you what, it's that Patrick Bamford we need to watch... potentially this year's Zaha (in our play off fixtures i mean)?

Terrible if he slipped awkwardly under a light tackle and had to miss the majority of the ties!

On a serious note, if the same GG turns up as played against Forest then our chances of progressing to the twin towers of Wembley will be seriously diminished!
Any excuse to get a photo of Bobby Zamora in an article! I'll tell you what, it's that Patrick Bamford we need to watch... potentially this year's Zaha (in our play off fixtures i mean)? Terrible if he slipped awkwardly under a light tackle and had to miss the majority of the ties! On a serious note, if the same GG turns up as played against Forest then our chances of progressing to the twin towers of Wembley will be seriously diminished! pablobrowno
  • Score: -3

5:23pm Tue 6 May 14

mark by the sea says...

pablobrowno wrote:
Any excuse to get a photo of Bobby Zamora in an article!

I'll tell you what, it's that Patrick Bamford we need to watch... potentially this year's Zaha (in our play off fixtures i mean)?

Terrible if he slipped awkwardly under a light tackle and had to miss the majority of the ties!

On a serious note, if the same GG turns up as played against Forest then our chances of progressing to the twin towers of Wembley will be seriously diminished!
To be fair , he had little protection from someone stopping the pass into feet,
I thought we were not ourselves Saturday , far too open infront of central defence.
[quote][p][bold]pablobrowno[/bold] wrote: Any excuse to get a photo of Bobby Zamora in an article! I'll tell you what, it's that Patrick Bamford we need to watch... potentially this year's Zaha (in our play off fixtures i mean)? Terrible if he slipped awkwardly under a light tackle and had to miss the majority of the ties! On a serious note, if the same GG turns up as played against Forest then our chances of progressing to the twin towers of Wembley will be seriously diminished![/p][/quote]To be fair , he had little protection from someone stopping the pass into feet, I thought we were not ourselves Saturday , far too open infront of central defence. mark by the sea
  • Score: 2

7:34pm Tue 6 May 14

gordongull says...

''Three clubs in the last ten years have won the Championship play-offs after finishing sixth.''
This is a remarkable statistic for sixth placed teams. It is better than 1 in 4, in fact it is almost 1 in three!
I think to a large extent this could be due to the mindset of sides finishing 6th, who are on a high, and feeling very conscious of their competitive edge.
''The team finishing third has triumphed in five of the last eight years.'' (Not sure why this statistic was given out of eight years, and the other one out of ten years), which is just over half, - not impressive! Could the higher placed teams be finding the disappointment of missing out on automatic promotion weighing them down?
What seems clear is that because the play-offs are a Cup competition, The sides with the better record over the course of the season have seen their statistical chances substantially reduced.
''Three clubs in the last ten years have won the Championship play-offs after finishing sixth.'' This is a remarkable statistic for sixth placed teams. It is better than 1 in 4, in fact it is almost 1 in three! I think to a large extent this could be due to the mindset of sides finishing 6th, who are on a high, and feeling very conscious of their competitive edge. ''The team finishing third has triumphed in five of the last eight years.'' (Not sure why this statistic was given out of eight years, and the other one out of ten years), which is just over half, - not impressive! Could the higher placed teams be finding the disappointment of missing out on automatic promotion weighing them down? What seems clear is that because the play-offs are a Cup competition, The sides with the better record over the course of the season have seen their statistical chances substantially reduced. gordongull
  • Score: 2

6:55am Wed 7 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Hi Captain.
Taking your last paragrah, and thinking about what it might mean if we do not get promotion, next season could see the pressure ramped up on Oscar, not from the board but from parts of the fan base.
Last year we made the play-offs under Poyet's direction. This year, with a far from adequate pre-season, Oscar has got us to the play-offs once again. Next year Oscar will start the season with the chance of forming his squad and tactics, the year will be all his. I can see expectations for next season being raised, (if we don't go up this year).

I don't think that there will ever be a time when we will hear Bloom say, 'promotion this year (any year),' is the target, by saying this way too much pressure is placed on the coach and players.
Although we may not hear the words spoken by Bloom, I think we will all know when the drive for the top is serious, those we sign and the money we invest in the squad will tell us all we need to know.
Yes I think you are probably right, Vegas. Next season would be our fourth in The Champ'ship. There's no doubt where Tony Bloom wants to be. Same for the fans now but how many will wait how long before really turning against Oscar, I wonder. I'm (nearly) always an advocate of giving time to see development progress and next season would be no exception. Wouldn't it be great if we pulled it off this month though??!!!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Hi Captain. Taking your last paragrah, and thinking about what it might mean if we do not get promotion, next season could see the pressure ramped up on Oscar, not from the board but from parts of the fan base. Last year we made the play-offs under Poyet's direction. This year, with a far from adequate pre-season, Oscar has got us to the play-offs once again. Next year Oscar will start the season with the chance of forming his squad and tactics, the year will be all his. I can see expectations for next season being raised, (if we don't go up this year). I don't think that there will ever be a time when we will hear Bloom say, 'promotion this year (any year),' is the target, by saying this way too much pressure is placed on the coach and players. Although we may not hear the words spoken by Bloom, I think we will all know when the drive for the top is serious, those we sign and the money we invest in the squad will tell us all we need to know.[/p][/quote]Yes I think you are probably right, Vegas. Next season would be our fourth in The Champ'ship. There's no doubt where Tony Bloom wants to be. Same for the fans now but how many will wait how long before really turning against Oscar, I wonder. I'm (nearly) always an advocate of giving time to see development progress and next season would be no exception. Wouldn't it be great if we pulled it off this month though??!!! Captain Haddock
  • Score: 2

12:26pm Wed 7 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

hannover seagull wrote:
Captain Haddock wrote:
The build-up begins in earnest from this moment. In 54 hours our destiny begins to play out. We have greater experience and a stingy defence - though they haven't been much more charitable than us since McClaren took over. They have more of a youthful outfit with plenty of attacking inclination. They like the ball to feet, play quick incisive football and get men forward so we'll have to be on our guard.

The scene may be set early on if it's a fiery start for either side. However it may be a much cagier affair. It's impossible to know in advance but traditionally playoffs can be livelier than other cup tie competitions.

I feel confident that if we win the first match, even by a slender margin, that we can go all the way through to Wembley. A draw would leave us with more to do and obviously a defeat would leave us right up against it, but even then I would still feel confident pulling something off given our decent away form this season.

Our record against all the other top sides is good and we owe Derby one (well two actually!) so it's time to redress the balance.

I fancy CMS to play some sort of further part in the story.

If we don't manage to go all the way, we can still say is been a great season overall given the turmoil in the summer and early season plus all the injuries throughout. Having got this far of course I would be disappointed not to get promoted but we've effectively matched last season's achievements already (including in the FA Cup).

Could this be our time though? It's been a long, LONG road back from the 80s.
Spot on Captain
Thanks for saving me a long post along the same lines
Its all about nerves and backbone now and flash of brilliance could change everything
UTA........
Kind of you to say and you are right: holding our nerves and producing one seminal moment could and maybe will be enough in each tie.
[quote][p][bold]hannover seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: The build-up begins in earnest from this moment. In 54 hours our destiny begins to play out. We have greater experience and a stingy defence - though they haven't been much more charitable than us since McClaren took over. They have more of a youthful outfit with plenty of attacking inclination. They like the ball to feet, play quick incisive football and get men forward so we'll have to be on our guard. The scene may be set early on if it's a fiery start for either side. However it may be a much cagier affair. It's impossible to know in advance but traditionally playoffs can be livelier than other cup tie competitions. I feel confident that if we win the first match, even by a slender margin, that we can go all the way through to Wembley. A draw would leave us with more to do and obviously a defeat would leave us right up against it, but even then I would still feel confident pulling something off given our decent away form this season. Our record against all the other top sides is good and we owe Derby one (well two actually!) so it's time to redress the balance. I fancy CMS to play some sort of further part in the story. If we don't manage to go all the way, we can still say is been a great season overall given the turmoil in the summer and early season plus all the injuries throughout. Having got this far of course I would be disappointed not to get promoted but we've effectively matched last season's achievements already (including in the FA Cup). Could this be our time though? It's been a long, LONG road back from the 80s.[/p][/quote]Spot on Captain Thanks for saving me a long post along the same lines Its all about nerves and backbone now and flash of brilliance could change everything UTA........[/p][/quote]Kind of you to say and you are right: holding our nerves and producing one seminal moment could and maybe will be enough in each tie. Captain Haddock
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