Play-off defeat was unfair says Albion striker

Leo Ulloa felt he should have had a penalty when he was held by Jake Buxton

Leo Ulloa felt he should have had a penalty when he was held by Jake Buxton

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Leo Ulloa reckons Albion do not deserve to be behind in their play-off semi-final.

But the striker is convinced they can overturn last night’s 2-1 first-leg defeat and claim a place at Wembley.

Ulloa said: “We didn’t have much luck. We’re 2-1 down and we don’t deserve to be but that’s football.

“There is still 90 minutes to play and we will produce the same football and the same intensity in the second leg.”

Ulloa and Inigo Calderon both backed their head coach’s claims they they were fouled in the Derby box.

Calderon, who went down in a challenge with Craig Forsyth, said: “I didn’t expect that leg to hit me. It was a penalty for sure. He made contact on me.”

Ulloa felt he was held back in the area in the second period.

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7:22am Fri 9 May 14

Far gull says...

Have to agree Leo.
Andrews best game in albion shirt( that hurt),Jfc off the pace but all round one of our better games at hm this season.
We just didn"t get the rub of the green sadly.
Derby did break with pace but once in front understandably. Oh well not over yet. 1-0 win then penalties !!!! :-)
Have to agree Leo. Andrews best game in albion shirt( that hurt),Jfc off the pace but all round one of our better games at hm this season. We just didn"t get the rub of the green sadly. Derby did break with pace but once in front understandably. Oh well not over yet. 1-0 win then penalties !!!! :-) Far gull
  • Score: 8

7:39am Fri 9 May 14

falmer seagull says...

Agree, but Andrews has the uncanny trait of passing directly to the opposition at least two or three times a match. Still think we should have started with Ince & March.
Agree, but Andrews has the uncanny trait of passing directly to the opposition at least two or three times a match. Still think we should have started with Ince & March. falmer seagull
  • Score: 13

8:04am Fri 9 May 14

russellsnr2 says...

Could only watch on TV but we played well are are unlucky to go to the next game 2-1 down but I thought that our front players id not get into the box on occasions quick enough and Calderon was a star last night and no disrespect to Bruno but I hope Calderon gets the nod ahead of Bruno if the latter is even fit to play.
No reason why we should not give Derby a headache on Sunday as long as we don't stand and watch them on the break because that did us last night on more than one occasion.
Could only watch on TV but we played well are are unlucky to go to the next game 2-1 down but I thought that our front players id not get into the box on occasions quick enough and Calderon was a star last night and no disrespect to Bruno but I hope Calderon gets the nod ahead of Bruno if the latter is even fit to play. No reason why we should not give Derby a headache on Sunday as long as we don't stand and watch them on the break because that did us last night on more than one occasion. russellsnr2
  • Score: 7

8:18am Fri 9 May 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

It's only half-time and with the rub of the green on Sunday we can win this.
It's not over yet! UTA
It's only half-time and with the rub of the green on Sunday we can win this. It's not over yet! UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 8

8:22am Fri 9 May 14

Withdean-er says...

I was there, as I have been at most games.
Other than the first 20 minutes when we played the best in ages, Derby took control in every way. McLaren didn't need to be a football to genius to have established in every dvd of the Albion that: 1. We lack pace big-time. 2. Ulloa never wins balls played up when up against a decent centre half & instead lie to the ref that he was fouled 3. Players such as Andrews and Greer are very slow now, easy to turn and sell themselves allowing opposition players to destroy them in swift counter attacks. 4. Greer and Calderon are coming to end of their Championship careers, are a weak spot to exploit. 5. Be positive and always keep fast player at the centre circle ready for the counter, unlike the naive Albion who always pull every single player back in defending set pieces and so cannot counter attack. 6. Since Bridcutt's exclusion from the first 11, they have lost their dynamic shield of the back 4 allowing us to break through, try one-two's and 20 yard shots unmarked (just as Dobbie did and Derby last night). Sorry, but the best TEAM one on the night, and that was without a decent striker like Bamford. Now over to TB, Barber and OG this Summer to address the squad failings and age.
I was there, as I have been at most games. Other than the first 20 minutes when we played the best in ages, Derby took control in every way. McLaren didn't need to be a football to genius to have established in every dvd of the Albion that: 1. We lack pace big-time. 2. Ulloa never wins balls played up when up against a decent centre half & instead lie to the ref that he was fouled 3. Players such as Andrews and Greer are very slow now, easy to turn and sell themselves allowing opposition players to destroy them in swift counter attacks. 4. Greer and Calderon are coming to end of their Championship careers, are a weak spot to exploit. 5. Be positive and always keep fast player at the centre circle ready for the counter, unlike the naive Albion who always pull every single player back in defending set pieces and so cannot counter attack. 6. Since Bridcutt's exclusion from the first 11, they have lost their dynamic shield of the back 4 allowing us to break through, try one-two's and 20 yard shots unmarked (just as Dobbie did and Derby last night). Sorry, but the best TEAM one on the night, and that was without a decent striker like Bamford. Now over to TB, Barber and OG this Summer to address the squad failings and age. Withdean-er
  • Score: -15

8:29am Fri 9 May 14

Seagulls via LCFC says...

True, the ball did not bounce for us last night. Very unlucky with their second. But Derby had pace and quick forward passing sometimes left Brighton players wondering what was going on and looked lost. Been to three away games this season (Millwall, Leicester and Notts Forest) and won them all, so looking forward to the trip to Derby.
True, the ball did not bounce for us last night. Very unlucky with their second. But Derby had pace and quick forward passing sometimes left Brighton players wondering what was going on and looked lost. Been to three away games this season (Millwall, Leicester and Notts Forest) and won them all, so looking forward to the trip to Derby. Seagulls via LCFC
  • Score: 21

8:32am Fri 9 May 14

Aldrington Halt says...

Withdean-er wrote:
I was there, as I have been at most games.
Other than the first 20 minutes when we played the best in ages, Derby took control in every way. McLaren didn't need to be a football to genius to have established in every dvd of the Albion that: 1. We lack pace big-time. 2. Ulloa never wins balls played up when up against a decent centre half & instead lie to the ref that he was fouled 3. Players such as Andrews and Greer are very slow now, easy to turn and sell themselves allowing opposition players to destroy them in swift counter attacks. 4. Greer and Calderon are coming to end of their Championship careers, are a weak spot to exploit. 5. Be positive and always keep fast player at the centre circle ready for the counter, unlike the naive Albion who always pull every single player back in defending set pieces and so cannot counter attack. 6. Since Bridcutt's exclusion from the first 11, they have lost their dynamic shield of the back 4 allowing us to break through, try one-two's and 20 yard shots unmarked (just as Dobbie did and Derby last night). Sorry, but the best TEAM one on the night, and that was without a decent striker like Bamford. Now over to TB, Barber and OG this Summer to address the squad failings and age.
One Flew over the Cuckoos Nest...
[quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: I was there, as I have been at most games. Other than the first 20 minutes when we played the best in ages, Derby took control in every way. McLaren didn't need to be a football to genius to have established in every dvd of the Albion that: 1. We lack pace big-time. 2. Ulloa never wins balls played up when up against a decent centre half & instead lie to the ref that he was fouled 3. Players such as Andrews and Greer are very slow now, easy to turn and sell themselves allowing opposition players to destroy them in swift counter attacks. 4. Greer and Calderon are coming to end of their Championship careers, are a weak spot to exploit. 5. Be positive and always keep fast player at the centre circle ready for the counter, unlike the naive Albion who always pull every single player back in defending set pieces and so cannot counter attack. 6. Since Bridcutt's exclusion from the first 11, they have lost their dynamic shield of the back 4 allowing us to break through, try one-two's and 20 yard shots unmarked (just as Dobbie did and Derby last night). Sorry, but the best TEAM one on the night, and that was without a decent striker like Bamford. Now over to TB, Barber and OG this Summer to address the squad failings and age.[/p][/quote]One Flew over the Cuckoos Nest... Aldrington Halt
  • Score: 11

8:41am Fri 9 May 14

scottishb;ue says...

Surely he can't play JFC on Sunday the little boy looked lost and gave the ball away so many times had a chance to shoot with no one near him and passed it backwards, I'm all for giving young bloody game time but Ince must be wondering why he,s not in the team ,as for Ulloa take the money from Leicester he never wins a ball pumped up to him he,s always looking at the defender and backing into him gives so many fouls away and you can't say we didn't get enough service last night up to the front players last night as that must be a record corner count in one game for us yes they were poorly taken so that is for the training ground. Let's get behind the team for Sunday and give re write history at Derby.
Surely he can't play JFC on Sunday the little boy looked lost and gave the ball away so many times had a chance to shoot with no one near him and passed it backwards, I'm all for giving young bloody game time but Ince must be wondering why he,s not in the team ,as for Ulloa take the money from Leicester he never wins a ball pumped up to him he,s always looking at the defender and backing into him gives so many fouls away and you can't say we didn't get enough service last night up to the front players last night as that must be a record corner count in one game for us yes they were poorly taken so that is for the training ground. Let's get behind the team for Sunday and give re write history at Derby. scottishb;ue
  • Score: 13

8:43am Fri 9 May 14

Asleep in Dorset says...

russellsnr2 wrote:
Could only watch on TV but we played well are are unlucky to go to the next game 2-1 down but I thought that our front players id not get into the box on occasions quick enough and Calderon was a star last night and no disrespect to Bruno but I hope Calderon gets the nod ahead of Bruno if the latter is even fit to play.
No reason why we should not give Derby a headache on Sunday as long as we don't stand and watch them on the break because that did us last night on more than one occasion.
I also watched the match on the box, but maybe you were watching another match ! Thought Orlandi was a waste of space, JFC too overawed by he occasion, CMS brought on too late. IMO have to go with CMS from the off in lieu of one of the above.
Derby had one shot on goal, the penalty, so don't see where you saw us 'stand and watch them on the break ? '
[quote][p][bold]russellsnr2[/bold] wrote: Could only watch on TV but we played well are are unlucky to go to the next game 2-1 down but I thought that our front players id not get into the box on occasions quick enough and Calderon was a star last night and no disrespect to Bruno but I hope Calderon gets the nod ahead of Bruno if the latter is even fit to play. No reason why we should not give Derby a headache on Sunday as long as we don't stand and watch them on the break because that did us last night on more than one occasion.[/p][/quote]I also watched the match on the box, but maybe you were watching another match ! Thought Orlandi was a waste of space, JFC too overawed by he occasion, CMS brought on too late. IMO have to go with CMS from the off in lieu of one of the above. Derby had one shot on goal, the penalty, so don't see where you saw us 'stand and watch them on the break ? ' Asleep in Dorset
  • Score: 15

8:47am Fri 9 May 14

Aldrington Halt says...

The ref turned a blind eye but Leo especially should know that we can't rely on the officials to win the game for us, he's a big target man and as a consequence a marked man and always seems to be held back..I was thinking last night that he might get the decision if he tried to run with the defender attached to his shirt rather than falling over and looking for the ref .. That said I felt that overall we played a positive game last night and still have it all to play for on Sunday. Come on you Seagulls!!!
The ref turned a blind eye but Leo especially should know that we can't rely on the officials to win the game for us, he's a big target man and as a consequence a marked man and always seems to be held back..I was thinking last night that he might get the decision if he tried to run with the defender attached to his shirt rather than falling over and looking for the ref .. That said I felt that overall we played a positive game last night and still have it all to play for on Sunday. Come on you Seagulls!!! Aldrington Halt
  • Score: 7

8:54am Fri 9 May 14

the taffster says...

I don't know what game you were watching Oscar.....we got what we deserved for an abject second half performance.we were devoid of ideas.in fact I couldn't remember a shot on goal in the half.....I thought we would have at least taken the game to them when we were trailing .we play like that on sun we will get slaughtered....
I don't know what game you were watching Oscar.....we got what we deserved for an abject second half performance.we were devoid of ideas.in fact I couldn't remember a shot on goal in the half.....I thought we would have at least taken the game to them when we were trailing .we play like that on sun we will get slaughtered.... the taffster
  • Score: -17

8:55am Fri 9 May 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Watched on TV and agree with most reactions that JFC didn't hack it but surprised at certain responses on Solly and Orlandi.
Some have said Solly did nothing when he came on but I thought he created some openings and added some much needed pace, while Orlandi's contribution was well below par and lacked any creative penetration - contrary to those who thought taking him off was a mistake. So all about opinions.
What's undeniable (surely?) is we certainly didn't have much luck and Derby, while incisive going forward are ordinary under pressure.
That said, the way the game changed after the penalty shows we're a bit brittle too so it's still a tough one to call but its certainly not over.
Watched on TV and agree with most reactions that JFC didn't hack it but surprised at certain responses on Solly and Orlandi. Some have said Solly did nothing when he came on but I thought he created some openings and added some much needed pace, while Orlandi's contribution was well below par and lacked any creative penetration - contrary to those who thought taking him off was a mistake. So all about opinions. What's undeniable (surely?) is we certainly didn't have much luck and Derby, while incisive going forward are ordinary under pressure. That said, the way the game changed after the penalty shows we're a bit brittle too so it's still a tough one to call but its certainly not over. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 11

9:09am Fri 9 May 14

fratsomrover says...

Great game, great entertainment, great crowd, great atmosphere...... just not the result we were looking for.
The first 35 minutes were the best we've played all season. Full of attacking intent and pace and we were well worth our lead. We desperately needed a second at that time and if we had got one then, they may well have folded, but they weathered our storm and gradually asserted their game. Easy to see why they have scored so many goals, they are great counter attackers with pace and support aplenty.
Their goals were mildly fortunate, especially the rebound off Kusack, but they were worth a goal and generally offered a greater threat up front than we did.
Calde's trip looked a penalty to me as their guy never played the ball and caught Calde, but other than that I thought the ref had a good game. Ulloa might get more of those "shirt holding" decisions if he didn't back in and throw himself to the ground so often. When you do that, you dont get the decision when you are fouled. He is a physical presence and we need that, but he has to stay stronger and play the ball more as he does have a tendency to challenge the man without even looking for the ball.
On a disappointing note, I do feel Will Buckley is a shadow of the player he was a couple of seasons ago. He seems to lack confidence, has lost his electric pace and barely posed a threat all night. March on the other hand, looked very lively out wide and I would prefer to see him play that wide right role on Sunday.
Could not agree with Lingard getting MoM. The goal apart, he was quite peripheral and would like to see CMS play that role alongside Leo. My MoM would probably have been Greer on the night although Andrews also had a good game and got through a prestigious amount of work.
JFC struggled at times and got caught out a couple of times for pace. I wondered if Ince could have been a ready replacement. His power in the centre might have disrupted their movement and he would also have been more of a threat going forward. Maybe he of Stephens for JFC would be a good move.
Still, it's not over and if the return is as good as last nights game it will be a credit to The Championship. Maybe we'll have the lucky breaks this time because there is very little between the two teams and we are certainly in with a shout.
Great game, great entertainment, great crowd, great atmosphere...... just not the result we were looking for. The first 35 minutes were the best we've played all season. Full of attacking intent and pace and we were well worth our lead. We desperately needed a second at that time and if we had got one then, they may well have folded, but they weathered our storm and gradually asserted their game. Easy to see why they have scored so many goals, they are great counter attackers with pace and support aplenty. Their goals were mildly fortunate, especially the rebound off Kusack, but they were worth a goal and generally offered a greater threat up front than we did. Calde's trip looked a penalty to me as their guy never played the ball and caught Calde, but other than that I thought the ref had a good game. Ulloa might get more of those "shirt holding" decisions if he didn't back in and throw himself to the ground so often. When you do that, you dont get the decision when you are fouled. He is a physical presence and we need that, but he has to stay stronger and play the ball more as he does have a tendency to challenge the man without even looking for the ball. On a disappointing note, I do feel Will Buckley is a shadow of the player he was a couple of seasons ago. He seems to lack confidence, has lost his electric pace and barely posed a threat all night. March on the other hand, looked very lively out wide and I would prefer to see him play that wide right role on Sunday. Could not agree with Lingard getting MoM. The goal apart, he was quite peripheral and would like to see CMS play that role alongside Leo. My MoM would probably have been Greer on the night although Andrews also had a good game and got through a prestigious amount of work. JFC struggled at times and got caught out a couple of times for pace. I wondered if Ince could have been a ready replacement. His power in the centre might have disrupted their movement and he would also have been more of a threat going forward. Maybe he of Stephens for JFC would be a good move. Still, it's not over and if the return is as good as last nights game it will be a credit to The Championship. Maybe we'll have the lucky breaks this time because there is very little between the two teams and we are certainly in with a shout. fratsomrover
  • Score: 13

9:28am Fri 9 May 14

Max Ripple says...

scottishb;ue wrote:
Surely he can't play JFC on Sunday the little boy looked lost and gave the ball away so many times had a chance to shoot with no one near him and passed it backwards, I'm all for giving young bloody game time but Ince must be wondering why he,s not in the team ,as for Ulloa take the money from Leicester he never wins a ball pumped up to him he,s always looking at the defender and backing into him gives so many fouls away and you can't say we didn't get enough service last night up to the front players last night as that must be a record corner count in one game for us yes they were poorly taken so that is for the training ground. Let's get behind the team for Sunday and give re write history at Derby.
Agree. JFC is not up to it as I've said on a previous blog story. Andrews and Greer now too slow. Upson, bless him, working to cover all angles without much support. Calde was magnificent but let's face it he is getting a bit long in the tooth now. Make a **** good coach though! Personally I thought Leo had a decent night except that I think the big defender was climbing all over him most of the night and ref chose to ignore it. Poor reffing all night actually. Frequently going against decisions from his linesmen. A flag in one direction resulted in a free kick in the other direction. Poor.
[quote][p][bold]scottishb;ue[/bold] wrote: Surely he can't play JFC on Sunday the little boy looked lost and gave the ball away so many times had a chance to shoot with no one near him and passed it backwards, I'm all for giving young bloody game time but Ince must be wondering why he,s not in the team ,as for Ulloa take the money from Leicester he never wins a ball pumped up to him he,s always looking at the defender and backing into him gives so many fouls away and you can't say we didn't get enough service last night up to the front players last night as that must be a record corner count in one game for us yes they were poorly taken so that is for the training ground. Let's get behind the team for Sunday and give re write history at Derby.[/p][/quote]Agree. JFC is not up to it as I've said on a previous blog story. Andrews and Greer now too slow. Upson, bless him, working to cover all angles without much support. Calde was magnificent but let's face it he is getting a bit long in the tooth now. Make a **** good coach though! Personally I thought Leo had a decent night except that I think the big defender was climbing all over him most of the night and ref chose to ignore it. Poor reffing all night actually. Frequently going against decisions from his linesmen. A flag in one direction resulted in a free kick in the other direction. Poor. Max Ripple
  • Score: 4

9:34am Fri 9 May 14

albionfan33 says...

fratsomrover wrote:
Great game, great entertainment, great crowd, great atmosphere...... just not the result we were looking for.
The first 35 minutes were the best we've played all season. Full of attacking intent and pace and we were well worth our lead. We desperately needed a second at that time and if we had got one then, they may well have folded, but they weathered our storm and gradually asserted their game. Easy to see why they have scored so many goals, they are great counter attackers with pace and support aplenty.
Their goals were mildly fortunate, especially the rebound off Kusack, but they were worth a goal and generally offered a greater threat up front than we did.
Calde's trip looked a penalty to me as their guy never played the ball and caught Calde, but other than that I thought the ref had a good game. Ulloa might get more of those "shirt holding" decisions if he didn't back in and throw himself to the ground so often. When you do that, you dont get the decision when you are fouled. He is a physical presence and we need that, but he has to stay stronger and play the ball more as he does have a tendency to challenge the man without even looking for the ball.
On a disappointing note, I do feel Will Buckley is a shadow of the player he was a couple of seasons ago. He seems to lack confidence, has lost his electric pace and barely posed a threat all night. March on the other hand, looked very lively out wide and I would prefer to see him play that wide right role on Sunday.
Could not agree with Lingard getting MoM. The goal apart, he was quite peripheral and would like to see CMS play that role alongside Leo. My MoM would probably have been Greer on the night although Andrews also had a good game and got through a prestigious amount of work.
JFC struggled at times and got caught out a couple of times for pace. I wondered if Ince could have been a ready replacement. His power in the centre might have disrupted their movement and he would also have been more of a threat going forward. Maybe he of Stephens for JFC would be a good move.
Still, it's not over and if the return is as good as last nights game it will be a credit to The Championship. Maybe we'll have the lucky breaks this time because there is very little between the two teams and we are certainly in with a shout.
i agree with most of that except the buckley bit who i though was looking very decent linking with calde they was creating all sorts of problems until he took a knock and then derby took over a bit
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: Great game, great entertainment, great crowd, great atmosphere...... just not the result we were looking for. The first 35 minutes were the best we've played all season. Full of attacking intent and pace and we were well worth our lead. We desperately needed a second at that time and if we had got one then, they may well have folded, but they weathered our storm and gradually asserted their game. Easy to see why they have scored so many goals, they are great counter attackers with pace and support aplenty. Their goals were mildly fortunate, especially the rebound off Kusack, but they were worth a goal and generally offered a greater threat up front than we did. Calde's trip looked a penalty to me as their guy never played the ball and caught Calde, but other than that I thought the ref had a good game. Ulloa might get more of those "shirt holding" decisions if he didn't back in and throw himself to the ground so often. When you do that, you dont get the decision when you are fouled. He is a physical presence and we need that, but he has to stay stronger and play the ball more as he does have a tendency to challenge the man without even looking for the ball. On a disappointing note, I do feel Will Buckley is a shadow of the player he was a couple of seasons ago. He seems to lack confidence, has lost his electric pace and barely posed a threat all night. March on the other hand, looked very lively out wide and I would prefer to see him play that wide right role on Sunday. Could not agree with Lingard getting MoM. The goal apart, he was quite peripheral and would like to see CMS play that role alongside Leo. My MoM would probably have been Greer on the night although Andrews also had a good game and got through a prestigious amount of work. JFC struggled at times and got caught out a couple of times for pace. I wondered if Ince could have been a ready replacement. His power in the centre might have disrupted their movement and he would also have been more of a threat going forward. Maybe he of Stephens for JFC would be a good move. Still, it's not over and if the return is as good as last nights game it will be a credit to The Championship. Maybe we'll have the lucky breaks this time because there is very little between the two teams and we are certainly in with a shout.[/p][/quote]i agree with most of that except the buckley bit who i though was looking very decent linking with calde they was creating all sorts of problems until he took a knock and then derby took over a bit albionfan33
  • Score: 6

10:03am Fri 9 May 14

Eddy B says...

Withdean-er wrote:
I was there, as I have been at most games. Other than the first 20 minutes when we played the best in ages, Derby took control in every way. McLaren didn't need to be a football to genius to have established in every dvd of the Albion that: 1. We lack pace big-time. 2. Ulloa never wins balls played up when up against a decent centre half & instead lie to the ref that he was fouled 3. Players such as Andrews and Greer are very slow now, easy to turn and sell themselves allowing opposition players to destroy them in swift counter attacks. 4. Greer and Calderon are coming to end of their Championship careers, are a weak spot to exploit. 5. Be positive and always keep fast player at the centre circle ready for the counter, unlike the naive Albion who always pull every single player back in defending set pieces and so cannot counter attack. 6. Since Bridcutt's exclusion from the first 11, they have lost their dynamic shield of the back 4 allowing us to break through, try one-two's and 20 yard shots unmarked (just as Dobbie did and Derby last night). Sorry, but the best TEAM one on the night, and that was without a decent striker like Bamford. Now over to TB, Barber and OG this Summer to address the squad failings and age.
Pretty much agree Withdean-er. Whatever the outcome of the play offs the squad will need a bit of an overhaul this summer. Many fans who've seen alot of games this season will agree there are some obvious weaknesses in the team (eg. pace, midfield creation, final ball/dead ball delivery). Some decisions will be out of the club's hands of course (loanees, players choosing to leave etc) but I hope the club has the gumption and the funds to honestly assess the squad and invest where needed. For another campaign in the championship there's only about half a dozen players I'd be determined to keep. The premiership would be a completely different story of course.
[quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: I was there, as I have been at most games. Other than the first 20 minutes when we played the best in ages, Derby took control in every way. McLaren didn't need to be a football to genius to have established in every dvd of the Albion that: 1. We lack pace big-time. 2. Ulloa never wins balls played up when up against a decent centre half & instead lie to the ref that he was fouled 3. Players such as Andrews and Greer are very slow now, easy to turn and sell themselves allowing opposition players to destroy them in swift counter attacks. 4. Greer and Calderon are coming to end of their Championship careers, are a weak spot to exploit. 5. Be positive and always keep fast player at the centre circle ready for the counter, unlike the naive Albion who always pull every single player back in defending set pieces and so cannot counter attack. 6. Since Bridcutt's exclusion from the first 11, they have lost their dynamic shield of the back 4 allowing us to break through, try one-two's and 20 yard shots unmarked (just as Dobbie did and Derby last night). Sorry, but the best TEAM one on the night, and that was without a decent striker like Bamford. Now over to TB, Barber and OG this Summer to address the squad failings and age.[/p][/quote]Pretty much agree Withdean-er. Whatever the outcome of the play offs the squad will need a bit of an overhaul this summer. Many fans who've seen alot of games this season will agree there are some obvious weaknesses in the team (eg. pace, midfield creation, final ball/dead ball delivery). Some decisions will be out of the club's hands of course (loanees, players choosing to leave etc) but I hope the club has the gumption and the funds to honestly assess the squad and invest where needed. For another campaign in the championship there's only about half a dozen players I'd be determined to keep. The premiership would be a completely different story of course. Eddy B
  • Score: -3

10:13am Fri 9 May 14

kipper12 says...

TK........ A FAIR PERFORMANCE , NOT A LOT TO DO REALLY AND WAS UNLUCKY WITH THEIR SECOND.
IC... SOLID AND DEPENDABLE
GG.. OK , BUT A BIT DODGY AT TIMES. LACKS PACE WHEN TURNED
MU... RELIABLE AS USUAL , MISTIMED TACKLE FOR THE PEN
SW .. GOOD ALL ROUND GAME
ORLANDI ... POOR . WAS NEVER IN THE GAME ....
KA ...... ONE OF HIS BETTER GAMES, ALTHOUGH SOME PASSES ASTRAY
JFC ....... GAVE THE BALL AWAY FAR TOO EASILY AND PUT DERBY ON THE BREAK ON 4 OCCASIONS BY LOSING THE BALL....
JL ... APART FROM GOAL . WAS INEFFECTIVE , AND LACKED IDEAS ....
WB.... HAS LOST ALL THAT PACE HE HAS IN THE PAST , AND THE ABILITY TO GHOST PASSED DEFENDERS TO DELIVER A KILLER BALL
L.O ...... LOOKED LOST UP FRONT , SPENT TOO MUCH TIME , LIKE SO MANY GAMES THIS SEASON , TRYING TO CON THE REF ..... CANT RECALL ONE REAL GOAL ATTEMPT FROM HIM.....
S.M ..... LOOKED BRIGHT WHEN HE CAME ON , AND ACTUALLY DONE WHAT W.B SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING .... RUNNING AT DEFENDERS...
K.L.L ...... SAME OLD STORY...... POOR DELIVERY, WOEFUL SHOOTING AND ALWAYS LOOKING FOR A FREE KICK....
C.M.S ...... NOT GIVEN ENOUGH TIME TO DO ANYTHING .....

overall , set pieces poor , , delivery poor , and found out too easily ,

BUT NO WORRIES , WE ARE BETTER AWAY FROM HOME AND MAY WELL PULL THIS ONE OUT OF THE BAG !!!!!

UTA !!!
TK........ A FAIR PERFORMANCE , NOT A LOT TO DO REALLY AND WAS UNLUCKY WITH THEIR SECOND. IC... SOLID AND DEPENDABLE GG.. OK , BUT A BIT DODGY AT TIMES. LACKS PACE WHEN TURNED MU... RELIABLE AS USUAL , MISTIMED TACKLE FOR THE PEN SW .. GOOD ALL ROUND GAME ORLANDI ... POOR . WAS NEVER IN THE GAME .... KA ...... ONE OF HIS BETTER GAMES, ALTHOUGH SOME PASSES ASTRAY JFC ....... GAVE THE BALL AWAY FAR TOO EASILY AND PUT DERBY ON THE BREAK ON 4 OCCASIONS BY LOSING THE BALL.... JL ... APART FROM GOAL . WAS INEFFECTIVE , AND LACKED IDEAS .... WB.... HAS LOST ALL THAT PACE HE HAS IN THE PAST , AND THE ABILITY TO GHOST PASSED DEFENDERS TO DELIVER A KILLER BALL L.O ...... LOOKED LOST UP FRONT , SPENT TOO MUCH TIME , LIKE SO MANY GAMES THIS SEASON , TRYING TO CON THE REF ..... CANT RECALL ONE REAL GOAL ATTEMPT FROM HIM..... S.M ..... LOOKED BRIGHT WHEN HE CAME ON , AND ACTUALLY DONE WHAT W.B SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING .... RUNNING AT DEFENDERS... K.L.L ...... SAME OLD STORY...... POOR DELIVERY, WOEFUL SHOOTING AND ALWAYS LOOKING FOR A FREE KICK.... C.M.S ...... NOT GIVEN ENOUGH TIME TO DO ANYTHING ..... overall , set pieces poor , , delivery poor , and found out too easily , BUT NO WORRIES , WE ARE BETTER AWAY FROM HOME AND MAY WELL PULL THIS ONE OUT OF THE BAG !!!!! UTA !!! kipper12
  • Score: 0

10:34am Fri 9 May 14

Claude Back says...

fratsomrover wrote:
Great game, great entertainment, great crowd, great atmosphere...... just not the result we were looking for.
The first 35 minutes were the best we've played all season. Full of attacking intent and pace and we were well worth our lead. We desperately needed a second at that time and if we had got one then, they may well have folded, but they weathered our storm and gradually asserted their game. Easy to see why they have scored so many goals, they are great counter attackers with pace and support aplenty.
Their goals were mildly fortunate, especially the rebound off Kusack, but they were worth a goal and generally offered a greater threat up front than we did.
Calde's trip looked a penalty to me as their guy never played the ball and caught Calde, but other than that I thought the ref had a good game. Ulloa might get more of those "shirt holding" decisions if he didn't back in and throw himself to the ground so often. When you do that, you dont get the decision when you are fouled. He is a physical presence and we need that, but he has to stay stronger and play the ball more as he does have a tendency to challenge the man without even looking for the ball.
On a disappointing note, I do feel Will Buckley is a shadow of the player he was a couple of seasons ago. He seems to lack confidence, has lost his electric pace and barely posed a threat all night. March on the other hand, looked very lively out wide and I would prefer to see him play that wide right role on Sunday.
Could not agree with Lingard getting MoM. The goal apart, he was quite peripheral and would like to see CMS play that role alongside Leo. My MoM would probably have been Greer on the night although Andrews also had a good game and got through a prestigious amount of work.
JFC struggled at times and got caught out a couple of times for pace. I wondered if Ince could have been a ready replacement. His power in the centre might have disrupted their movement and he would also have been more of a threat going forward. Maybe he of Stephens for JFC would be a good move.
Still, it's not over and if the return is as good as last nights game it will be a credit to The Championship. Maybe we'll have the lucky breaks this time because there is very little between the two teams and we are certainly in with a shout.
I agree.
JFC marks a space and that is all. We need eleven men not ten. Ince or Stephens for me every time if fit.
Also. the enthusiasm, energy and speed of CMS was evident and he should start but play him up front WITH Ulloa. Too often last night the crosses went in their box but only Ulloa was there, marked by four Derby defenders.
Why is O.G. so slow to react with tactics or subs? It was clear Orlandi (who I really like) was way out of form and also JFC. Both should have been subbed a lot earlier. The way to beat Derby is to press them early and keep the fastest defender or midfielder we have on the half way line when we attack to counter their breakaway. Not certain if we have any though. All ours seem a bit ponderous.
Anyway, still think we might get a fortuitous win and it will go to penalties on Sunday.
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: Great game, great entertainment, great crowd, great atmosphere...... just not the result we were looking for. The first 35 minutes were the best we've played all season. Full of attacking intent and pace and we were well worth our lead. We desperately needed a second at that time and if we had got one then, they may well have folded, but they weathered our storm and gradually asserted their game. Easy to see why they have scored so many goals, they are great counter attackers with pace and support aplenty. Their goals were mildly fortunate, especially the rebound off Kusack, but they were worth a goal and generally offered a greater threat up front than we did. Calde's trip looked a penalty to me as their guy never played the ball and caught Calde, but other than that I thought the ref had a good game. Ulloa might get more of those "shirt holding" decisions if he didn't back in and throw himself to the ground so often. When you do that, you dont get the decision when you are fouled. He is a physical presence and we need that, but he has to stay stronger and play the ball more as he does have a tendency to challenge the man without even looking for the ball. On a disappointing note, I do feel Will Buckley is a shadow of the player he was a couple of seasons ago. He seems to lack confidence, has lost his electric pace and barely posed a threat all night. March on the other hand, looked very lively out wide and I would prefer to see him play that wide right role on Sunday. Could not agree with Lingard getting MoM. The goal apart, he was quite peripheral and would like to see CMS play that role alongside Leo. My MoM would probably have been Greer on the night although Andrews also had a good game and got through a prestigious amount of work. JFC struggled at times and got caught out a couple of times for pace. I wondered if Ince could have been a ready replacement. His power in the centre might have disrupted their movement and he would also have been more of a threat going forward. Maybe he of Stephens for JFC would be a good move. Still, it's not over and if the return is as good as last nights game it will be a credit to The Championship. Maybe we'll have the lucky breaks this time because there is very little between the two teams and we are certainly in with a shout.[/p][/quote]I agree. JFC marks a space and that is all. We need eleven men not ten. Ince or Stephens for me every time if fit. Also. the enthusiasm, energy and speed of CMS was evident and he should start but play him up front WITH Ulloa. Too often last night the crosses went in their box but only Ulloa was there, marked by four Derby defenders. Why is O.G. so slow to react with tactics or subs? It was clear Orlandi (who I really like) was way out of form and also JFC. Both should have been subbed a lot earlier. The way to beat Derby is to press them early and keep the fastest defender or midfielder we have on the half way line when we attack to counter their breakaway. Not certain if we have any though. All ours seem a bit ponderous. Anyway, still think we might get a fortuitous win and it will go to penalties on Sunday. Claude Back
  • Score: 9

10:35am Fri 9 May 14

Tommy11 says...

JFC was so so poor last night. As soon as I saw his name on the team sheet, I took an almighty gulp. In fact, I could not understand why we started with the same team that played so poorly against Forest – yes we won – but only with the likes of CMS, March and Lua Lua on the pitch!

JFC is so totally and utterly out of his depth it actually angers me that he starts. I do think he is living on ‘both’ his family names. He can’t tackle, head, run. He has no strength, pace or stamina. The word ‘Useless’ is entirely fitting when describing JFC. What annoys me more than anything with him is that he ‘hides’ for most of the game too. Even when he is free, he is never asking for the ball – he does not want to know – he is so nervous – why is he out there???!!!!

That said, the odd thing is by losing last night – is that we will actually for once try and win the game. If we won 1-0 last night – we would have tried to suck the life of the away leg – and probably end up losing 2-0.. so amazingly it could be an advantage!!!

We need to go out all guns blazing on Sunday. Two wingers, two strikers (CMS & Ulloa)

Come on Albion – lets shut up those smug Derby faces!
JFC was so so poor last night. As soon as I saw his name on the team sheet, I took an almighty gulp. In fact, I could not understand why we started with the same team that played so poorly against Forest – yes we won – but only with the likes of CMS, March and Lua Lua on the pitch! JFC is so totally and utterly out of his depth it actually angers me that he starts. I do think he is living on ‘both’ his family names. He can’t tackle, head, run. He has no strength, pace or stamina. The word ‘Useless’ is entirely fitting when describing JFC. What annoys me more than anything with him is that he ‘hides’ for most of the game too. Even when he is free, he is never asking for the ball – he does not want to know – he is so nervous – why is he out there???!!!! That said, the odd thing is by losing last night – is that we will actually for once try and win the game. If we won 1-0 last night – we would have tried to suck the life of the away leg – and probably end up losing 2-0.. so amazingly it could be an advantage!!! We need to go out all guns blazing on Sunday. Two wingers, two strikers (CMS & Ulloa) Come on Albion – lets shut up those smug Derby faces! Tommy11
  • Score: 0

10:36am Fri 9 May 14

SecondReserve says...

It was a disappointing result - we started well and we could have won or at least drawn but our player of the season giving away a stupid penalty changed the balance of the game and obviously their second goal was very lucky. However, instead of saying that it was 'unfair' Garcia really ought to be looking at the difference between the approaches of the teams and he should take note and learn the lessons.

When Derby attacked they did so with pace, they got down the line, they put over dangerous crosses and they ran at our defenders with real intent and committed our players. Whenever Derby attacked they looked dangerous and our defence was under pressure.

As so often, our attacking was laborious and ponderous, no pace, endless sideways and backwards passing and no inventiveness or creativity at all from our midfield (JFC not up to this level, Orlandi weak and very poor). Our crossing was woeful (sadly especially from Lua Lua), our set pieces were all wasted and, apart from Buckley in the first 20 minutes or so, nobody ran at their defence with any real pace or intent.

It wasn't 'unfair': we had most of the play and most of the shots but essentially we made life easy for their defenders (plus they had a good keeper).
It was a disappointing result - we started well and we could have won or at least drawn but our player of the season giving away a stupid penalty changed the balance of the game and obviously their second goal was very lucky. However, instead of saying that it was 'unfair' Garcia really ought to be looking at the difference between the approaches of the teams and he should take note and learn the lessons. When Derby attacked they did so with pace, they got down the line, they put over dangerous crosses and they ran at our defenders with real intent and committed our players. Whenever Derby attacked they looked dangerous and our defence was under pressure. As so often, our attacking was laborious and ponderous, no pace, endless sideways and backwards passing and no inventiveness or creativity at all from our midfield (JFC not up to this level, Orlandi weak and very poor). Our crossing was woeful (sadly especially from Lua Lua), our set pieces were all wasted and, apart from Buckley in the first 20 minutes or so, nobody ran at their defence with any real pace or intent. It wasn't 'unfair': we had most of the play and most of the shots but essentially we made life easy for their defenders (plus they had a good keeper). SecondReserve
  • Score: 6

10:46am Fri 9 May 14

Claude Back says...

Tommy11 wrote:
JFC was so so poor last night. As soon as I saw his name on the team sheet, I took an almighty gulp. In fact, I could not understand why we started with the same team that played so poorly against Forest – yes we won – but only with the likes of CMS, March and Lua Lua on the pitch!

JFC is so totally and utterly out of his depth it actually angers me that he starts. I do think he is living on ‘both’ his family names. He can’t tackle, head, run. He has no strength, pace or stamina. The word ‘Useless’ is entirely fitting when describing JFC. What annoys me more than anything with him is that he ‘hides’ for most of the game too. Even when he is free, he is never asking for the ball – he does not want to know – he is so nervous – why is he out there???!!!!

That said, the odd thing is by losing last night – is that we will actually for once try and win the game. If we won 1-0 last night – we would have tried to suck the life of the away leg – and probably end up losing 2-0.. so amazingly it could be an advantage!!!

We need to go out all guns blazing on Sunday. Two wingers, two strikers (CMS & Ulloa)

Come on Albion – lets shut up those smug Derby faces!
I agree Tommy, about JFC. Just glad that someone else can see it too.
[quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: JFC was so so poor last night. As soon as I saw his name on the team sheet, I took an almighty gulp. In fact, I could not understand why we started with the same team that played so poorly against Forest – yes we won – but only with the likes of CMS, March and Lua Lua on the pitch! JFC is so totally and utterly out of his depth it actually angers me that he starts. I do think he is living on ‘both’ his family names. He can’t tackle, head, run. He has no strength, pace or stamina. The word ‘Useless’ is entirely fitting when describing JFC. What annoys me more than anything with him is that he ‘hides’ for most of the game too. Even when he is free, he is never asking for the ball – he does not want to know – he is so nervous – why is he out there???!!!! That said, the odd thing is by losing last night – is that we will actually for once try and win the game. If we won 1-0 last night – we would have tried to suck the life of the away leg – and probably end up losing 2-0.. so amazingly it could be an advantage!!! We need to go out all guns blazing on Sunday. Two wingers, two strikers (CMS & Ulloa) Come on Albion – lets shut up those smug Derby faces![/p][/quote]I agree Tommy, about JFC. Just glad that someone else can see it too. Claude Back
  • Score: 1

10:47am Fri 9 May 14

Claude Back says...

SecondReserve wrote:
It was a disappointing result - we started well and we could have won or at least drawn but our player of the season giving away a stupid penalty changed the balance of the game and obviously their second goal was very lucky. However, instead of saying that it was 'unfair' Garcia really ought to be looking at the difference between the approaches of the teams and he should take note and learn the lessons.

When Derby attacked they did so with pace, they got down the line, they put over dangerous crosses and they ran at our defenders with real intent and committed our players. Whenever Derby attacked they looked dangerous and our defence was under pressure.

As so often, our attacking was laborious and ponderous, no pace, endless sideways and backwards passing and no inventiveness or creativity at all from our midfield (JFC not up to this level, Orlandi weak and very poor). Our crossing was woeful (sadly especially from Lua Lua), our set pieces were all wasted and, apart from Buckley in the first 20 minutes or so, nobody ran at their defence with any real pace or intent.

It wasn't 'unfair': we had most of the play and most of the shots but essentially we made life easy for their defenders (plus they had a good keeper).
Very accurate summation in my opinion.
[quote][p][bold]SecondReserve[/bold] wrote: It was a disappointing result - we started well and we could have won or at least drawn but our player of the season giving away a stupid penalty changed the balance of the game and obviously their second goal was very lucky. However, instead of saying that it was 'unfair' Garcia really ought to be looking at the difference between the approaches of the teams and he should take note and learn the lessons. When Derby attacked they did so with pace, they got down the line, they put over dangerous crosses and they ran at our defenders with real intent and committed our players. Whenever Derby attacked they looked dangerous and our defence was under pressure. As so often, our attacking was laborious and ponderous, no pace, endless sideways and backwards passing and no inventiveness or creativity at all from our midfield (JFC not up to this level, Orlandi weak and very poor). Our crossing was woeful (sadly especially from Lua Lua), our set pieces were all wasted and, apart from Buckley in the first 20 minutes or so, nobody ran at their defence with any real pace or intent. It wasn't 'unfair': we had most of the play and most of the shots but essentially we made life easy for their defenders (plus they had a good keeper).[/p][/quote]Very accurate summation in my opinion. Claude Back
  • Score: 2

12:04pm Fri 9 May 14

str8outtaDC says...

Ahh the moaners are back. JFC is 20 years old and trying his best - give him a break. Is Ince fully fit? CMS certainly isn't so i think starting him isn't the best idea. And Derby are great on the counter so 442 would be very dangerous for us.

We played well, had more shots and limited them to a penalty and a long distance fluke. We are still in it and are generally better away from home.

Lets get behind the team that have got us this far instead of moaning.
Ahh the moaners are back. JFC is 20 years old and trying his best - give him a break. Is Ince fully fit? CMS certainly isn't so i think starting him isn't the best idea. And Derby are great on the counter so 442 would be very dangerous for us. We played well, had more shots and limited them to a penalty and a long distance fluke. We are still in it and are generally better away from home. Lets get behind the team that have got us this far instead of moaning. str8outtaDC
  • Score: 5

12:12pm Fri 9 May 14

Jules boy says...

SecondReserve wrote:
It was a disappointing result - we started well and we could have won or at least drawn but our player of the season giving away a stupid penalty changed the balance of the game and obviously their second goal was very lucky. However, instead of saying that it was 'unfair' Garcia really ought to be looking at the difference between the approaches of the teams and he should take note and learn the lessons.

When Derby attacked they did so with pace, they got down the line, they put over dangerous crosses and they ran at our defenders with real intent and committed our players. Whenever Derby attacked they looked dangerous and our defence was under pressure.

As so often, our attacking was laborious and ponderous, no pace, endless sideways and backwards passing and no inventiveness or creativity at all from our midfield (JFC not up to this level, Orlandi weak and very poor). Our crossing was woeful (sadly especially from Lua Lua), our set pieces were all wasted and, apart from Buckley in the first 20 minutes or so, nobody ran at their defence with any real pace or intent.

It wasn't 'unfair': we had most of the play and most of the shots but essentially we made life easy for their defenders (plus they had a good keeper).
Totally agree, Upson didn't need to make that challenge for the pen which ultimately changed the game. There were 5 blue and white shirts around the Derby player and still Thomas between the sticks.

We cannot afford to give to ball away so much against a team like this who break forward so quickly - happened too often last night and fortunately were still in with a shout as we didn't conceed a 3rd.

IMO our biggest weakness all season from the start was yet again in evidence last night - we cannot cross the ball very well, our corners have been dreadful (whenever we get one I don't get very excited as more often leads to an opposition break than an attempt on goal).

Main things is we can still do this!
[quote][p][bold]SecondReserve[/bold] wrote: It was a disappointing result - we started well and we could have won or at least drawn but our player of the season giving away a stupid penalty changed the balance of the game and obviously their second goal was very lucky. However, instead of saying that it was 'unfair' Garcia really ought to be looking at the difference between the approaches of the teams and he should take note and learn the lessons. When Derby attacked they did so with pace, they got down the line, they put over dangerous crosses and they ran at our defenders with real intent and committed our players. Whenever Derby attacked they looked dangerous and our defence was under pressure. As so often, our attacking was laborious and ponderous, no pace, endless sideways and backwards passing and no inventiveness or creativity at all from our midfield (JFC not up to this level, Orlandi weak and very poor). Our crossing was woeful (sadly especially from Lua Lua), our set pieces were all wasted and, apart from Buckley in the first 20 minutes or so, nobody ran at their defence with any real pace or intent. It wasn't 'unfair': we had most of the play and most of the shots but essentially we made life easy for their defenders (plus they had a good keeper).[/p][/quote]Totally agree, Upson didn't need to make that challenge for the pen which ultimately changed the game. There were 5 blue and white shirts around the Derby player and still Thomas between the sticks. We cannot afford to give to ball away so much against a team like this who break forward so quickly - happened too often last night and fortunately were still in with a shout as we didn't conceed a 3rd. IMO our biggest weakness all season from the start was yet again in evidence last night - we cannot cross the ball very well, our corners have been dreadful (whenever we get one I don't get very excited as more often leads to an opposition break than an attempt on goal). Main things is we can still do this! Jules boy
  • Score: 4

1:09pm Fri 9 May 14

Eddy B says...

Tommy11 wrote:
JFC was so so poor last night. As soon as I saw his name on the team sheet, I took an almighty gulp. In fact, I could not understand why we started with the same team that played so poorly against Forest – yes we won – but only with the likes of CMS, March and Lua Lua on the pitch!

JFC is so totally and utterly out of his depth it actually angers me that he starts. I do think he is living on ‘both’ his family names. He can’t tackle, head, run. He has no strength, pace or stamina. The word ‘Useless’ is entirely fitting when describing JFC. What annoys me more than anything with him is that he ‘hides’ for most of the game too. Even when he is free, he is never asking for the ball – he does not want to know – he is so nervous – why is he out there???!!!!

That said, the odd thing is by losing last night – is that we will actually for once try and win the game. If we won 1-0 last night – we would have tried to suck the life of the away leg – and probably end up losing 2-0.. so amazingly it could be an advantage!!!

We need to go out all guns blazing on Sunday. Two wingers, two strikers (CMS & Ulloa)

Come on Albion – lets shut up those smug Derby faces!
Pretty much agree Tommy. I don't think JFC froze because of the occasion - frankly he's just not very good unfortunately . You are also not wrong that strangely the result could help. How often over the last two seasons have we seen Brighton sit back after taking a lead and lose the advantage? - at least we have to attack now (but preferably not take the lead in the tie until injury time so there is no time to sit back and defend and let Derby back in!). :)
[quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: JFC was so so poor last night. As soon as I saw his name on the team sheet, I took an almighty gulp. In fact, I could not understand why we started with the same team that played so poorly against Forest – yes we won – but only with the likes of CMS, March and Lua Lua on the pitch! JFC is so totally and utterly out of his depth it actually angers me that he starts. I do think he is living on ‘both’ his family names. He can’t tackle, head, run. He has no strength, pace or stamina. The word ‘Useless’ is entirely fitting when describing JFC. What annoys me more than anything with him is that he ‘hides’ for most of the game too. Even when he is free, he is never asking for the ball – he does not want to know – he is so nervous – why is he out there???!!!! That said, the odd thing is by losing last night – is that we will actually for once try and win the game. If we won 1-0 last night – we would have tried to suck the life of the away leg – and probably end up losing 2-0.. so amazingly it could be an advantage!!! We need to go out all guns blazing on Sunday. Two wingers, two strikers (CMS & Ulloa) Come on Albion – lets shut up those smug Derby faces![/p][/quote]Pretty much agree Tommy. I don't think JFC froze because of the occasion - frankly he's just not very good unfortunately . You are also not wrong that strangely the result could help. How often over the last two seasons have we seen Brighton sit back after taking a lead and lose the advantage? - at least we have to attack now (but preferably not take the lead in the tie until injury time so there is no time to sit back and defend and let Derby back in!). :) Eddy B
  • Score: 4

1:19pm Fri 9 May 14

paulderby says...

I thought the best side lost actually ,only watched on TV but a pen in the first half -dont know what our full back was doing and 2 great saves from grant as we sat back
its interesting reading your comments as I dont know the players but I thought you got robbed !!
see you sunday when hopefully we may turn up for the full game !
I thought the best side lost actually ,only watched on TV but a pen in the first half -dont know what our full back was doing and 2 great saves from grant as we sat back its interesting reading your comments as I dont know the players but I thought you got robbed !! see you sunday when hopefully we may turn up for the full game ! paulderby
  • Score: 6

1:31pm Fri 9 May 14

DerbyArmy_ says...

Oscar mate.....pity you conveniently 'did not see' (in complete Venger style) the lad Ulloa who chucked himself to the floor like he had been walloped with a sledge hammer, only for the instant replay to show that Keough had made no phyical contact whatsoever inside the box. That in itself is a sending off offence. You should therefore have been down to nine men if you add Upsons display of scissor tackle to the equation. The chief commentator remarked that it was a Derby smash and grab to which the co-commentator instantly retorted "this is certainly no smash and grab". He is right too. Derby played good quality thinking football and are ferocious on the break. That's why we have beaten Albion 2-1 three times this season.The reason Albion lost is because they do not get into the box or shoot on sight enough as they did when they scored their goal. Albion are a developing team who play excellent quick pass football, but until the Management team realise that Derby's reason for so many goals is that they get into the box by constantly switching play so much they will find it intensly difficult to break Derby down come Suinday. Either way it was an entertaining game and unlike a of poster on this forum who accuse Derby fans as being smug faced, I for one wish Albion all the very best win draw or lose as they say (just not Sunday).

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Oscar mate.....pity you conveniently 'did not see' (in complete Venger style) the lad Ulloa who chucked himself to the floor like he had been walloped with a sledge hammer, only for the instant replay to show that Keough had made no phyical contact whatsoever inside the box. That in itself is a sending off offence. You should therefore have been down to nine men if you add Upsons display of scissor tackle to the equation. The chief commentator remarked that it was a Derby smash and grab to which the co-commentator instantly retorted "this is certainly no smash and grab". He is right too. Derby played good quality thinking football and are ferocious on the break. That's why we have beaten Albion 2-1 three times this season.The reason Albion lost is because they do not get into the box or shoot on sight enough as they did when they scored their goal. Albion are a developing team who play excellent quick pass football, but until the Management team realise that Derby's reason for so many goals is that they get into the box by constantly switching play so much they will find it intensly difficult to break Derby down come Suinday. Either way it was an entertaining game and unlike a of poster on this forum who accuse Derby fans as being smug faced, I for one wish Albion all the very best win draw or lose as they say (just not Sunday). Read more: http://www.derbytele graph.co.uk/Brighton -boss-bemoans-unfair -play-defeat-Derby/s tory-21079536-detail /story.html#ixzz31DY gTJ1Z Read more at http://www.derbytele graph.co.uk/Brighton -boss-bemoans-unfair -play-defeat-Derby/s tory-21079536-detail /story.html#qd6iTOfV b3QTYZwW.99 DerbyArmy_
  • Score: 0

1:51pm Fri 9 May 14

DerbyArmy_ says...

paulderby you talk like a buffoon to say Derby robbed Albion. Derby won through technical excellence even though Albion matched them for quick slick passing at times. Both had commanding spells. Albion did not shoot on sight enough which has been the reson they have scored 50 odd goals and Derby nearly 90. Albion's set pieces need a major review and Derby still ned tightening on the defensive right central side although Keough played very cleverly when in that box it must be said, especially with Ulloa playing dead man when the cameras show him to have cheated the dive. Still all teams do that so Garcia needs to stop shouting unfair like a kid. Ulloa should have been sent off for that dive and so should Upson for his display of scissor tacklesR-US. Albion had the edge for much of the game but Derby as always are extremely clincal in the 6 yard box. We have so many options every game we play now since McClaren arrived it's almost embarrassing at times. We will score again at the iPro so Albion are going to have to get at least three to go through outright pure and simple and I would not hold your breath on that promise. paulderby constantly spends all of his time on the Forest Nottingham Post website taking the proverbial and is constantly mocked, but seldomly posts on the Derby Telegraph site: odd that!... Anyway Oscar until you instil into your players to shoot on sight more often you will find it increasingly tough to get to the Premiership. Goals make points son, not whingeing like a school boy about the ref and it all being 'unfair'..... YOOOUUUUUUUUU RAMMMMMMMMMSSSSS....
paulderby you talk like a buffoon to say Derby robbed Albion. Derby won through technical excellence even though Albion matched them for quick slick passing at times. Both had commanding spells. Albion did not shoot on sight enough which has been the reson they have scored 50 odd goals and Derby nearly 90. Albion's set pieces need a major review and Derby still ned tightening on the defensive right central side although Keough played very cleverly when in that box it must be said, especially with Ulloa playing dead man when the cameras show him to have cheated the dive. Still all teams do that so Garcia needs to stop shouting unfair like a kid. Ulloa should have been sent off for that dive and so should Upson for his display of scissor tacklesR-US. Albion had the edge for much of the game but Derby as always are extremely clincal in the 6 yard box. We have so many options every game we play now since McClaren arrived it's almost embarrassing at times. We will score again at the iPro so Albion are going to have to get at least three to go through outright pure and simple and I would not hold your breath on that promise. paulderby constantly spends all of his time on the Forest Nottingham Post website taking the proverbial and is constantly mocked, but seldomly posts on the Derby Telegraph site: odd that!... Anyway Oscar until you instil into your players to shoot on sight more often you will find it increasingly tough to get to the Premiership. Goals make points son, not whingeing like a school boy about the ref and it all being 'unfair'..... YOOOUUUUUUUUU RAMMMMMMMMMSSSSS.... DerbyArmy_
  • Score: -6

3:49pm Fri 9 May 14

lenward says...

Well am I the only one that thinks it was not a penalty, if that was a penalty than why was't the same tackle on Will Buckley a free kick not a minute before the penalty just outside the derby box. And if a nudge on Alloa in the penalty box wasn't a foul, but the same nudge on a Derby player near the touch line was. I know these refs have a difficult job,but can we have a little more consistency please.
Well am I the only one that thinks it was not a penalty, if that was a penalty than why was't the same tackle on Will Buckley a free kick not a minute before the penalty just outside the derby box. And if a nudge on Alloa in the penalty box wasn't a foul, but the same nudge on a Derby player near the touch line was. I know these refs have a difficult job,but can we have a little more consistency please. lenward
  • Score: 3

3:57pm Fri 9 May 14

Free money says...

scottishb;ue wrote:
Surely he can't play JFC on Sunday the little boy looked lost and gave the ball away so many times had a chance to shoot with no one near him and passed it backwards, I'm all for giving young bloody game time but Ince must be wondering why he,s not in the team ,as for Ulloa take the money from Leicester he never wins a ball pumped up to him he,s always looking at the defender and backing into him gives so many fouls away and you can't say we didn't get enough service last night up to the front players last night as that must be a record corner count in one game for us yes they were poorly taken so that is for the training ground. Let's get behind the team for Sunday and give re write history at Derby.
We can all see it but not OG and his staff for some reason.
[quote][p][bold]scottishb;ue[/bold] wrote: Surely he can't play JFC on Sunday the little boy looked lost and gave the ball away so many times had a chance to shoot with no one near him and passed it backwards, I'm all for giving young bloody game time but Ince must be wondering why he,s not in the team ,as for Ulloa take the money from Leicester he never wins a ball pumped up to him he,s always looking at the defender and backing into him gives so many fouls away and you can't say we didn't get enough service last night up to the front players last night as that must be a record corner count in one game for us yes they were poorly taken so that is for the training ground. Let's get behind the team for Sunday and give re write history at Derby.[/p][/quote]We can all see it but not OG and his staff for some reason. Free money
  • Score: -2

4:10pm Fri 9 May 14

Free money says...

DerbyArmy_ wrote:
paulderby you talk like a buffoon to say Derby robbed Albion. Derby won through technical excellence even though Albion matched them for quick slick passing at times. Both had commanding spells. Albion did not shoot on sight enough which has been the reson they have scored 50 odd goals and Derby nearly 90. Albion's set pieces need a major review and Derby still ned tightening on the defensive right central side although Keough played very cleverly when in that box it must be said, especially with Ulloa playing dead man when the cameras show him to have cheated the dive. Still all teams do that so Garcia needs to stop shouting unfair like a kid. Ulloa should have been sent off for that dive and so should Upson for his display of scissor tacklesR-US. Albion had the edge for much of the game but Derby as always are extremely clincal in the 6 yard box. We have so many options every game we play now since McClaren arrived it's almost embarrassing at times. We will score again at the iPro so Albion are going to have to get at least three to go through outright pure and simple and I would not hold your breath on that promise. paulderby constantly spends all of his time on the Forest Nottingham Post website taking the proverbial and is constantly mocked, but seldomly posts on the Derby Telegraph site: odd that!... Anyway Oscar until you instil into your players to shoot on sight more often you will find it increasingly tough to get to the Premiership. Goals make points son, not whingeing like a school boy about the ref and it all being 'unfair'..... YOOOUUUUUUUUU RAMMMMMMMMMSSSSS....
The best post on this site apart from mine all season.Instil into his players shoot on sight lol haha.Thank you Derby fan.Goals make points something that goes over these peoples heads my friend.Brighton have been dire to watch all season if they could be honest.McClaren has done an outstanding job on your team,and the pace you had coming forward at Brighton was outstanding at times.OG is the only manager in the country that has a job with no presure and is happy to give fans money away to freeloading rubbish like JFC,Agustien,Hoskins
,Spanish Dave,and the vile all women love me Orlandi & Buckley.
[quote][p][bold]DerbyArmy_[/bold] wrote: paulderby you talk like a buffoon to say Derby robbed Albion. Derby won through technical excellence even though Albion matched them for quick slick passing at times. Both had commanding spells. Albion did not shoot on sight enough which has been the reson they have scored 50 odd goals and Derby nearly 90. Albion's set pieces need a major review and Derby still ned tightening on the defensive right central side although Keough played very cleverly when in that box it must be said, especially with Ulloa playing dead man when the cameras show him to have cheated the dive. Still all teams do that so Garcia needs to stop shouting unfair like a kid. Ulloa should have been sent off for that dive and so should Upson for his display of scissor tacklesR-US. Albion had the edge for much of the game but Derby as always are extremely clincal in the 6 yard box. We have so many options every game we play now since McClaren arrived it's almost embarrassing at times. We will score again at the iPro so Albion are going to have to get at least three to go through outright pure and simple and I would not hold your breath on that promise. paulderby constantly spends all of his time on the Forest Nottingham Post website taking the proverbial and is constantly mocked, but seldomly posts on the Derby Telegraph site: odd that!... Anyway Oscar until you instil into your players to shoot on sight more often you will find it increasingly tough to get to the Premiership. Goals make points son, not whingeing like a school boy about the ref and it all being 'unfair'..... YOOOUUUUUUUUU RAMMMMMMMMMSSSSS....[/p][/quote]The best post on this site apart from mine all season.Instil into his players shoot on sight lol haha.Thank you Derby fan.Goals make points something that goes over these peoples heads my friend.Brighton have been dire to watch all season if they could be honest.McClaren has done an outstanding job on your team,and the pace you had coming forward at Brighton was outstanding at times.OG is the only manager in the country that has a job with no presure and is happy to give fans money away to freeloading rubbish like JFC,Agustien,Hoskins ,Spanish Dave,and the vile all women love me Orlandi & Buckley. Free money
  • Score: -3

4:14pm Fri 9 May 14

tez1959 says...

oh was ulloa playing so who was that lump of lard upfront then?
oh was ulloa playing so who was that lump of lard upfront then? tez1959
  • Score: -5

4:17pm Fri 9 May 14

Free money says...

DerbyArmy_ wrote:
paulderby you talk like a buffoon to say Derby robbed Albion. Derby won through technical excellence even though Albion matched them for quick slick passing at times. Both had commanding spells. Albion did not shoot on sight enough which has been the reson they have scored 50 odd goals and Derby nearly 90. Albion's set pieces need a major review and Derby still ned tightening on the defensive right central side although Keough played very cleverly when in that box it must be said, especially with Ulloa playing dead man when the cameras show him to have cheated the dive. Still all teams do that so Garcia needs to stop shouting unfair like a kid. Ulloa should have been sent off for that dive and so should Upson for his display of scissor tacklesR-US. Albion had the edge for much of the game but Derby as always are extremely clincal in the 6 yard box. We have so many options every game we play now since McClaren arrived it's almost embarrassing at times. We will score again at the iPro so Albion are going to have to get at least three to go through outright pure and simple and I would not hold your breath on that promise. paulderby constantly spends all of his time on the Forest Nottingham Post website taking the proverbial and is constantly mocked, but seldomly posts on the Derby Telegraph site: odd that!... Anyway Oscar until you instil into your players to shoot on sight more often you will find it increasingly tough to get to the Premiership. Goals make points son, not whingeing like a school boy about the ref and it all being 'unfair'..... YOOOUUUUUUUUU RAMMMMMMMMMSSSSS....
Most of this lot don't even go to games my friend.Thats why they still believe the club really gets gates of 27k most weeks lol haha.When last night proved its more like 22k most games,and down even more next season.People are not going to pay top prem-league money to watch that dire rubbish much longer.
[quote][p][bold]DerbyArmy_[/bold] wrote: paulderby you talk like a buffoon to say Derby robbed Albion. Derby won through technical excellence even though Albion matched them for quick slick passing at times. Both had commanding spells. Albion did not shoot on sight enough which has been the reson they have scored 50 odd goals and Derby nearly 90. Albion's set pieces need a major review and Derby still ned tightening on the defensive right central side although Keough played very cleverly when in that box it must be said, especially with Ulloa playing dead man when the cameras show him to have cheated the dive. Still all teams do that so Garcia needs to stop shouting unfair like a kid. Ulloa should have been sent off for that dive and so should Upson for his display of scissor tacklesR-US. Albion had the edge for much of the game but Derby as always are extremely clincal in the 6 yard box. We have so many options every game we play now since McClaren arrived it's almost embarrassing at times. We will score again at the iPro so Albion are going to have to get at least three to go through outright pure and simple and I would not hold your breath on that promise. paulderby constantly spends all of his time on the Forest Nottingham Post website taking the proverbial and is constantly mocked, but seldomly posts on the Derby Telegraph site: odd that!... Anyway Oscar until you instil into your players to shoot on sight more often you will find it increasingly tough to get to the Premiership. Goals make points son, not whingeing like a school boy about the ref and it all being 'unfair'..... YOOOUUUUUUUUU RAMMMMMMMMMSSSSS....[/p][/quote]Most of this lot don't even go to games my friend.Thats why they still believe the club really gets gates of 27k most weeks lol haha.When last night proved its more like 22k most games,and down even more next season.People are not going to pay top prem-league money to watch that dire rubbish much longer. Free money
  • Score: -1

5:02pm Fri 9 May 14

wiseman of hove says...

fratsomrover wrote:
Great game, great entertainment, great crowd, great atmosphere...... just not the result we were looking for.
The first 35 minutes were the best we've played all season. Full of attacking intent and pace and we were well worth our lead. We desperately needed a second at that time and if we had got one then, they may well have folded, but they weathered our storm and gradually asserted their game. Easy to see why they have scored so many goals, they are great counter attackers with pace and support aplenty.
Their goals were mildly fortunate, especially the rebound off Kusack, but they were worth a goal and generally offered a greater threat up front than we did.
Calde's trip looked a penalty to me as their guy never played the ball and caught Calde, but other than that I thought the ref had a good game. Ulloa might get more of those "shirt holding" decisions if he didn't back in and throw himself to the ground so often. When you do that, you dont get the decision when you are fouled. He is a physical presence and we need that, but he has to stay stronger and play the ball more as he does have a tendency to challenge the man without even looking for the ball.
On a disappointing note, I do feel Will Buckley is a shadow of the player he was a couple of seasons ago. He seems to lack confidence, has lost his electric pace and barely posed a threat all night. March on the other hand, looked very lively out wide and I would prefer to see him play that wide right role on Sunday.
Could not agree with Lingard getting MoM. The goal apart, he was quite peripheral and would like to see CMS play that role alongside Leo. My MoM would probably have been Greer on the night although Andrews also had a good game and got through a prestigious amount of work.
JFC struggled at times and got caught out a couple of times for pace. I wondered if Ince could have been a ready replacement. His power in the centre might have disrupted their movement and he would also have been more of a threat going forward. Maybe he of Stephens for JFC would be a good move.
Still, it's not over and if the return is as good as last nights game it will be a credit to The Championship. Maybe we'll have the lucky breaks this time because there is very little between the two teams and we are certainly in with a shout.
Excellent post. Greer our best player, and yes, Andrews worked his socks off and can be forgiven for a couple of loose passes. He tried to be creative. The same cannot be said for Forster-Caskey who is simply out of his depth at this level. A complete mystery to me how he stayed on the pitch for 90 mins.
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: Great game, great entertainment, great crowd, great atmosphere...... just not the result we were looking for. The first 35 minutes were the best we've played all season. Full of attacking intent and pace and we were well worth our lead. We desperately needed a second at that time and if we had got one then, they may well have folded, but they weathered our storm and gradually asserted their game. Easy to see why they have scored so many goals, they are great counter attackers with pace and support aplenty. Their goals were mildly fortunate, especially the rebound off Kusack, but they were worth a goal and generally offered a greater threat up front than we did. Calde's trip looked a penalty to me as their guy never played the ball and caught Calde, but other than that I thought the ref had a good game. Ulloa might get more of those "shirt holding" decisions if he didn't back in and throw himself to the ground so often. When you do that, you dont get the decision when you are fouled. He is a physical presence and we need that, but he has to stay stronger and play the ball more as he does have a tendency to challenge the man without even looking for the ball. On a disappointing note, I do feel Will Buckley is a shadow of the player he was a couple of seasons ago. He seems to lack confidence, has lost his electric pace and barely posed a threat all night. March on the other hand, looked very lively out wide and I would prefer to see him play that wide right role on Sunday. Could not agree with Lingard getting MoM. The goal apart, he was quite peripheral and would like to see CMS play that role alongside Leo. My MoM would probably have been Greer on the night although Andrews also had a good game and got through a prestigious amount of work. JFC struggled at times and got caught out a couple of times for pace. I wondered if Ince could have been a ready replacement. His power in the centre might have disrupted their movement and he would also have been more of a threat going forward. Maybe he of Stephens for JFC would be a good move. Still, it's not over and if the return is as good as last nights game it will be a credit to The Championship. Maybe we'll have the lucky breaks this time because there is very little between the two teams and we are certainly in with a shout.[/p][/quote]Excellent post. Greer our best player, and yes, Andrews worked his socks off and can be forgiven for a couple of loose passes. He tried to be creative. The same cannot be said for Forster-Caskey who is simply out of his depth at this level. A complete mystery to me how he stayed on the pitch for 90 mins. wiseman of hove
  • Score: 3

5:26pm Fri 9 May 14

Free money says...

wiseman of hove wrote:
fratsomrover wrote:
Great game, great entertainment, great crowd, great atmosphere...... just not the result we were looking for.
The first 35 minutes were the best we've played all season. Full of attacking intent and pace and we were well worth our lead. We desperately needed a second at that time and if we had got one then, they may well have folded, but they weathered our storm and gradually asserted their game. Easy to see why they have scored so many goals, they are great counter attackers with pace and support aplenty.
Their goals were mildly fortunate, especially the rebound off Kusack, but they were worth a goal and generally offered a greater threat up front than we did.
Calde's trip looked a penalty to me as their guy never played the ball and caught Calde, but other than that I thought the ref had a good game. Ulloa might get more of those "shirt holding" decisions if he didn't back in and throw himself to the ground so often. When you do that, you dont get the decision when you are fouled. He is a physical presence and we need that, but he has to stay stronger and play the ball more as he does have a tendency to challenge the man without even looking for the ball.
On a disappointing note, I do feel Will Buckley is a shadow of the player he was a couple of seasons ago. He seems to lack confidence, has lost his electric pace and barely posed a threat all night. March on the other hand, looked very lively out wide and I would prefer to see him play that wide right role on Sunday.
Could not agree with Lingard getting MoM. The goal apart, he was quite peripheral and would like to see CMS play that role alongside Leo. My MoM would probably have been Greer on the night although Andrews also had a good game and got through a prestigious amount of work.
JFC struggled at times and got caught out a couple of times for pace. I wondered if Ince could have been a ready replacement. His power in the centre might have disrupted their movement and he would also have been more of a threat going forward. Maybe he of Stephens for JFC would be a good move.
Still, it's not over and if the return is as good as last nights game it will be a credit to The Championship. Maybe we'll have the lucky breaks this time because there is very little between the two teams and we are certainly in with a shout.
Excellent post. Greer our best player, and yes, Andrews worked his socks off and can be forgiven for a couple of loose passes. He tried to be creative. The same cannot be said for Forster-Caskey who is simply out of his depth at this level. A complete mystery to me how he stayed on the pitch for 90 mins.
Outstanding post.JFC pure lower league rubbish getting a free run in life off his familys name yet again.The Derby fans had it 100% correct if you don't shoot you don't score its simple.
[quote][p][bold]wiseman of hove[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: Great game, great entertainment, great crowd, great atmosphere...... just not the result we were looking for. The first 35 minutes were the best we've played all season. Full of attacking intent and pace and we were well worth our lead. We desperately needed a second at that time and if we had got one then, they may well have folded, but they weathered our storm and gradually asserted their game. Easy to see why they have scored so many goals, they are great counter attackers with pace and support aplenty. Their goals were mildly fortunate, especially the rebound off Kusack, but they were worth a goal and generally offered a greater threat up front than we did. Calde's trip looked a penalty to me as their guy never played the ball and caught Calde, but other than that I thought the ref had a good game. Ulloa might get more of those "shirt holding" decisions if he didn't back in and throw himself to the ground so often. When you do that, you dont get the decision when you are fouled. He is a physical presence and we need that, but he has to stay stronger and play the ball more as he does have a tendency to challenge the man without even looking for the ball. On a disappointing note, I do feel Will Buckley is a shadow of the player he was a couple of seasons ago. He seems to lack confidence, has lost his electric pace and barely posed a threat all night. March on the other hand, looked very lively out wide and I would prefer to see him play that wide right role on Sunday. Could not agree with Lingard getting MoM. The goal apart, he was quite peripheral and would like to see CMS play that role alongside Leo. My MoM would probably have been Greer on the night although Andrews also had a good game and got through a prestigious amount of work. JFC struggled at times and got caught out a couple of times for pace. I wondered if Ince could have been a ready replacement. His power in the centre might have disrupted their movement and he would also have been more of a threat going forward. Maybe he of Stephens for JFC would be a good move. Still, it's not over and if the return is as good as last nights game it will be a credit to The Championship. Maybe we'll have the lucky breaks this time because there is very little between the two teams and we are certainly in with a shout.[/p][/quote]Excellent post. Greer our best player, and yes, Andrews worked his socks off and can be forgiven for a couple of loose passes. He tried to be creative. The same cannot be said for Forster-Caskey who is simply out of his depth at this level. A complete mystery to me how he stayed on the pitch for 90 mins.[/p][/quote]Outstanding post.JFC pure lower league rubbish getting a free run in life off his familys name yet again.The Derby fans had it 100% correct if you don't shoot you don't score its simple. Free money
  • Score: -3

9:52pm Fri 9 May 14

OldGull says...

the taffster wrote:
I don't know what game you were watching Oscar.....we got what we deserved for an abject second half performance.we were devoid of ideas.in fact I couldn't remember a shot on goal in the half.....I thought we would have at least taken the game to them when we were trailing .we play like that on sun we will get slaughtered....
So the 2 brilliant saves in the 2nd half from shots by Ulloa & Ward didn't happen?
[quote][p][bold]the taffster[/bold] wrote: I don't know what game you were watching Oscar.....we got what we deserved for an abject second half performance.we were devoid of ideas.in fact I couldn't remember a shot on goal in the half.....I thought we would have at least taken the game to them when we were trailing .we play like that on sun we will get slaughtered....[/p][/quote]So the 2 brilliant saves in the 2nd half from shots by Ulloa & Ward didn't happen? OldGull
  • Score: 1

10:02pm Fri 9 May 14

OldGull says...

str8outtaDC wrote:
Ahh the moaners are back. JFC is 20 years old and trying his best - give him a break. Is Ince fully fit? CMS certainly isn't so i think starting him isn't the best idea. And Derby are great on the counter so 442 would be very dangerous for us.

We played well, had more shots and limited them to a penalty and a long distance fluke. We are still in it and are generally better away from home.

Lets get behind the team that have got us this far instead of moaning.
Yes the moaners do like to have a target, unfortunately they are now getting on JFC's case.
Yes he did not have one of his best games last night, but he is still young and inexperienced.
And he did he not score the goal of the season?
[quote][p][bold]str8outtaDC[/bold] wrote: Ahh the moaners are back. JFC is 20 years old and trying his best - give him a break. Is Ince fully fit? CMS certainly isn't so i think starting him isn't the best idea. And Derby are great on the counter so 442 would be very dangerous for us. We played well, had more shots and limited them to a penalty and a long distance fluke. We are still in it and are generally better away from home. Lets get behind the team that have got us this far instead of moaning.[/p][/quote]Yes the moaners do like to have a target, unfortunately they are now getting on JFC's case. Yes he did not have one of his best games last night, but he is still young and inexperienced. And he did he not score the goal of the season? OldGull
  • Score: 2

11:43pm Fri 9 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

OldGull wrote:
str8outtaDC wrote:
Ahh the moaners are back. JFC is 20 years old and trying his best - give him a break. Is Ince fully fit? CMS certainly isn't so i think starting him isn't the best idea. And Derby are great on the counter so 442 would be very dangerous for us.

We played well, had more shots and limited them to a penalty and a long distance fluke. We are still in it and are generally better away from home.

Lets get behind the team that have got us this far instead of moaning.
Yes the moaners do like to have a target, unfortunately they are now getting on JFC's case.
Yes he did not have one of his best games last night, but he is still young and inexperienced.
And he did he not score the goal of the season?
Short memories...
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]str8outtaDC[/bold] wrote: Ahh the moaners are back. JFC is 20 years old and trying his best - give him a break. Is Ince fully fit? CMS certainly isn't so i think starting him isn't the best idea. And Derby are great on the counter so 442 would be very dangerous for us. We played well, had more shots and limited them to a penalty and a long distance fluke. We are still in it and are generally better away from home. Lets get behind the team that have got us this far instead of moaning.[/p][/quote]Yes the moaners do like to have a target, unfortunately they are now getting on JFC's case. Yes he did not have one of his best games last night, but he is still young and inexperienced. And he did he not score the goal of the season?[/p][/quote]Short memories... Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 2

11:34am Sat 10 May 14

Withdean-er says...

The so called positve thinkers commenting here, plus those making hard done by comments within the club, really need to drop those blue tinted specs.

We were very good the first 20 minutes but the it became the Derby show. They attacked and counter attacked with great pace and speed of mind. They had pace all over the pitch incouding when defending, and acted as a collective TEAM knowing exactly what to do and where their teamates were. In contrast the Albion reverted to type with slow passing sideways and back, whilst the Derby back-4 and defensive midfielders got their proverbial cigars out. You can always tell if it's not going well, and the stadium's home stands went increasingly quiet but with some anger voiced at the lack of going forward in the second half. In the WSU normally positive fans started vocalising this anger. So many crosses, corners and other set piece balls sailed 4 feet over attackers heads or were embarrasingly weak straight into the Derby's goalie's gloves. Ulloa became the bottling tallman, whining to the ref and losing out in 90% of aireal balls against a non-famous centre-half. Whatever happens tomorrow, a major overhaul of the squad is required this Summer - an injection of pace at centre-back, centre-midfield and strikers, with some proven players in their mid-20's rather than fhe mismash of unproven youth, veterans and crocks.
The so called positve thinkers commenting here, plus those making hard done by comments within the club, really need to drop those blue tinted specs. We were very good the first 20 minutes but the it became the Derby show. They attacked and counter attacked with great pace and speed of mind. They had pace all over the pitch incouding when defending, and acted as a collective TEAM knowing exactly what to do and where their teamates were. In contrast the Albion reverted to type with slow passing sideways and back, whilst the Derby back-4 and defensive midfielders got their proverbial cigars out. You can always tell if it's not going well, and the stadium's home stands went increasingly quiet but with some anger voiced at the lack of going forward in the second half. In the WSU normally positive fans started vocalising this anger. So many crosses, corners and other set piece balls sailed 4 feet over attackers heads or were embarrasingly weak straight into the Derby's goalie's gloves. Ulloa became the bottling tallman, whining to the ref and losing out in 90% of aireal balls against a non-famous centre-half. Whatever happens tomorrow, a major overhaul of the squad is required this Summer - an injection of pace at centre-back, centre-midfield and strikers, with some proven players in their mid-20's rather than fhe mismash of unproven youth, veterans and crocks. Withdean-er
  • Score: -2

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