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Lopez urges Albion to make long-term managerial appointment

The Argus: David Lopez David Lopez

Former Albion midfielder David Lopez has backed his old club to keep pushing for the Premier League.

But he has urged them to make a long-term managerial appointment to help them to the top flight.

Tim Sherwood and Paul Clement continue to lead the betting for the manager’s job left vacant when Oscar Garcia resigned last Monday.

Sherwood, sacked last week by Tottenham, has confirmed he would consider a job outside the Premier League.

But he would want full and honest discussions with the chairman before taking any post.

The new man will be Albion’s third boss in little more than a year.

David, one of six players released last week, said: “You can’t keep changing managers each year.

“The two I’ve had at the club have both left and it’s really important your manager stays longer (than Oscar’s one year).

“I wish Brighton all the best. I have nothing bad to say about my time there.

“When I left I got so many tweets and messages from fans and hopefully they will get into the Premier League.”

Sherwood, who is also being linked with positions in the top flight, said he would consider “any jobs that are out there” when he appeared on Sky Sports yesterday.
He added: “I would like to have an honest conversation with the owners or chairman of which ever club might be of interest and see what the future holds.
“See what the expectations are of that club and then I would tell them what I think I could deliver.  I would tell them the truth of what I can bring to the party and not try and pretend I’m someone I’m not.”
Clement, who works alongside Zinedine Zidane as assistant to Real Madrid boss Carlo Ancelotti, is thought to be a contender for the Albion job.
Madrid are working towards Saturday’s Champions’ League final against cross-city rivals and new Spanish champions Atletico.
Representatives of both third-favourite Malky Mackay and ex-Watford boss Gianfranco Zola, a man some Albion fans might like to see as a contender, both distanced their clients from the job at the Amex when contacted by The Argus.

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6:14am Mon 19 May 14

namgo49 says...

Thank goodness Zola has distanced himself. An honest man, but he would be a failure in waiting. Sherwood does it for me but I don't think he would get the support he is looking for from the club.
Thank goodness Zola has distanced himself. An honest man, but he would be a failure in waiting. Sherwood does it for me but I don't think he would get the support he is looking for from the club. namgo49
  • Score: 0

6:24am Mon 19 May 14

JeffLomer says...

I see Leicester want Upson let's hop!e he don't leave Brighton!!
up the Albion!
Sherwood on talk sport this morning!!
I see Leicester want Upson let's hop!e he don't leave Brighton!! up the Albion! Sherwood on talk sport this morning!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 4

6:27am Mon 19 May 14

Oscar's Chin says...

Why would Zola distance himself? Is he expecting to walk into a PL job?
Why would Zola distance himself? Is he expecting to walk into a PL job? Oscar's Chin
  • Score: 2

6:57am Mon 19 May 14

Cory and Trevor says...

namgo49 wrote:
Thank goodness Zola has distanced himself. An honest man, but he would be a failure in waiting. Sherwood does it for me but I don't think he would get the support he is looking for from the club.
The season before last, he had a great season at Watford. It was only latterly they went on a bad run. That doesn't make him a poor manager.

The bloke has a superb football pedigree, and we'd be privileged to have him at Brighton. Who do you think we are?
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: Thank goodness Zola has distanced himself. An honest man, but he would be a failure in waiting. Sherwood does it for me but I don't think he would get the support he is looking for from the club.[/p][/quote]The season before last, he had a great season at Watford. It was only latterly they went on a bad run. That doesn't make him a poor manager. The bloke has a superb football pedigree, and we'd be privileged to have him at Brighton. Who do you think we are? Cory and Trevor
  • Score: 1

7:11am Mon 19 May 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

If, as the bookies would have us believe, the decision looks like coming down to either Sherwood or Clement, then we seem to be in a pretty good place. If it REALLY is between these two then discussions and negotiations should be at a pretty advanced stage by now and hopefully white plumes of smoke will shorty be seen over the Amex chimney and an announcement will be made soon.

For what it's worth I think we would be strong contenders next year with either of these two at the helm. My personal preference would still be Sherwood whose strong, forthright and seemingly honest approach appears to me just what our squad and our club needs post Oscar. I think some players will respond well to being told that they aren't doing what's needed to retain a starting place and if they can't then they shouldn't be wearing the stripes. Having said that, my preference may be coloured by knowing little about Clement who also sounds like a strong character, particularly on the training ground.

In TB I trust to make the right decision for our club. After all, he was a supporter before becoming owner and every decision he makes is with a view to getting the best available in his eyes. He (obviously) knows infinitely more than us about the internal workings of BHA and I trust him to make the right decision - I just hope he does it soon so that we don't lose any options to other clubs!!

UTA!!
If, as the bookies would have us believe, the decision looks like coming down to either Sherwood or Clement, then we seem to be in a pretty good place. If it REALLY is between these two then discussions and negotiations should be at a pretty advanced stage by now and hopefully white plumes of smoke will shorty be seen over the Amex chimney and an announcement will be made soon. For what it's worth I think we would be strong contenders next year with either of these two at the helm. My personal preference would still be Sherwood whose strong, forthright and seemingly honest approach appears to me just what our squad and our club needs post Oscar. I think some players will respond well to being told that they aren't doing what's needed to retain a starting place and if they can't then they shouldn't be wearing the stripes. Having said that, my preference may be coloured by knowing little about Clement who also sounds like a strong character, particularly on the training ground. In TB I trust to make the right decision for our club. After all, he was a supporter before becoming owner and every decision he makes is with a view to getting the best available in his eyes. He (obviously) knows infinitely more than us about the internal workings of BHA and I trust him to make the right decision - I just hope he does it soon so that we don't lose any options to other clubs!! UTA!! Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 19

7:31am Mon 19 May 14

mark by the sea says...

Does it sound cryptic from sherwood ? The talk of "honest discussion" I would imagine TS has chatted to his old mate Gus ? Seems a odd thing to say about part of a possible interview where he wants to get to both parties being honest? I assume he and others have applied and interviews or chats with agents .
The appointment of the next manager will surely be one where TB either accepts the manager will have more control over budget / wages for certain players, or the new manager accepts he is little more than a coach with input .
I say that as most of the signings, augustin , obika Stephens all have jones input I believe .
Will TS want Ferdinand as his 2 ? And if so does that mean jones is no longer required?
As for Spanish dave, nice touch from him .
Does it sound cryptic from sherwood ? The talk of "honest discussion" I would imagine TS has chatted to his old mate Gus ? Seems a odd thing to say about part of a possible interview where he wants to get to both parties being honest? I assume he and others have applied and interviews or chats with agents . The appointment of the next manager will surely be one where TB either accepts the manager will have more control over budget / wages for certain players, or the new manager accepts he is little more than a coach with input . I say that as most of the signings, augustin , obika Stephens all have jones input I believe . Will TS want Ferdinand as his 2 ? And if so does that mean jones is no longer required? As for Spanish dave, nice touch from him . mark by the sea
  • Score: 10

7:33am Mon 19 May 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Things have gone a bit quiet. David is stating the beep beep obvious here. Of course we need continuity at the club but most managers don't get the opportunity when the owner/chairman panics. Ask Tim Sherwood and Spurs fans about Daniel Levy. At least our Tony isn't a panic merchant but has been unlucky that our last two managers have decided to walk or act in a way that forced his hand. It's therefore vital we get this right because in the right hands the Albion can move forward at a gallop. I'm still expecting the unexpected. Onwards and upwards. UTA
Things have gone a bit quiet. David is stating the beep beep obvious here. Of course we need continuity at the club but most managers don't get the opportunity when the owner/chairman panics. Ask Tim Sherwood and Spurs fans about Daniel Levy. At least our Tony isn't a panic merchant but has been unlucky that our last two managers have decided to walk or act in a way that forced his hand. It's therefore vital we get this right because in the right hands the Albion can move forward at a gallop. I'm still expecting the unexpected. Onwards and upwards. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 5

7:42am Mon 19 May 14

mark by the sea says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
Things have gone a bit quiet. David is stating the beep beep obvious here. Of course we need continuity at the club but most managers don't get the opportunity when the owner/chairman panics. Ask Tim Sherwood and Spurs fans about Daniel Levy. At least our Tony isn't a panic merchant but has been unlucky that our last two managers have decided to walk or act in a way that forced his hand. It's therefore vital we get this right because in the right hands the Albion can move forward at a gallop. I'm still expecting the unexpected. Onwards and upwards. UTA
Two managers leaving in 12 months , after two successful seasons has to be a first for us!
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: Things have gone a bit quiet. David is stating the beep beep obvious here. Of course we need continuity at the club but most managers don't get the opportunity when the owner/chairman panics. Ask Tim Sherwood and Spurs fans about Daniel Levy. At least our Tony isn't a panic merchant but has been unlucky that our last two managers have decided to walk or act in a way that forced his hand. It's therefore vital we get this right because in the right hands the Albion can move forward at a gallop. I'm still expecting the unexpected. Onwards and upwards. UTA[/p][/quote]Two managers leaving in 12 months , after two successful seasons has to be a first for us! mark by the sea
  • Score: 11

8:06am Mon 19 May 14

Clean Sheet says...

Nice words from David, a professional we have let go twice, but has maintained a respectful approach. I am not convinced about Sherwood, I would rather someone who doesn't express all his feelings to the press. these people tend to fall out with players, owners, press, everyone given time.
Nice words from David, a professional we have let go twice, but has maintained a respectful approach. I am not convinced about Sherwood, I would rather someone who doesn't express all his feelings to the press. these people tend to fall out with players, owners, press, everyone given time. Clean Sheet
  • Score: 13

8:17am Mon 19 May 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
If, as the bookies would have us believe, the decision looks like coming down to either Sherwood or Clement, then we seem to be in a pretty good place. If it REALLY is between these two then discussions and negotiations should be at a pretty advanced stage by now and hopefully white plumes of smoke will shorty be seen over the Amex chimney and an announcement will be made soon.

For what it's worth I think we would be strong contenders next year with either of these two at the helm. My personal preference would still be Sherwood whose strong, forthright and seemingly honest approach appears to me just what our squad and our club needs post Oscar. I think some players will respond well to being told that they aren't doing what's needed to retain a starting place and if they can't then they shouldn't be wearing the stripes. Having said that, my preference may be coloured by knowing little about Clement who also sounds like a strong character, particularly on the training ground.

In TB I trust to make the right decision for our club. After all, he was a supporter before becoming owner and every decision he makes is with a view to getting the best available in his eyes. He (obviously) knows infinitely more than us about the internal workings of BHA and I trust him to make the right decision - I just hope he does it soon so that we don't lose any options to other clubs!!

UTA!!
If Clement is a contender, I wouldn't expect there to be serious discussion until after the Champions League final on Saturday. So on that basis, we could be in for a quiet week - unless the rumours are groundless and our focus is actually elsewhere........
[quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: If, as the bookies would have us believe, the decision looks like coming down to either Sherwood or Clement, then we seem to be in a pretty good place. If it REALLY is between these two then discussions and negotiations should be at a pretty advanced stage by now and hopefully white plumes of smoke will shorty be seen over the Amex chimney and an announcement will be made soon. For what it's worth I think we would be strong contenders next year with either of these two at the helm. My personal preference would still be Sherwood whose strong, forthright and seemingly honest approach appears to me just what our squad and our club needs post Oscar. I think some players will respond well to being told that they aren't doing what's needed to retain a starting place and if they can't then they shouldn't be wearing the stripes. Having said that, my preference may be coloured by knowing little about Clement who also sounds like a strong character, particularly on the training ground. In TB I trust to make the right decision for our club. After all, he was a supporter before becoming owner and every decision he makes is with a view to getting the best available in his eyes. He (obviously) knows infinitely more than us about the internal workings of BHA and I trust him to make the right decision - I just hope he does it soon so that we don't lose any options to other clubs!! UTA!![/p][/quote]If Clement is a contender, I wouldn't expect there to be serious discussion until after the Champions League final on Saturday. So on that basis, we could be in for a quiet week - unless the rumours are groundless and our focus is actually elsewhere........ Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 5

8:28am Mon 19 May 14

mark by the sea says...

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
If, as the bookies would have us believe, the decision looks like coming down to either Sherwood or Clement, then we seem to be in a pretty good place. If it REALLY is between these two then discussions and negotiations should be at a pretty advanced stage by now and hopefully white plumes of smoke will shorty be seen over the Amex chimney and an announcement will be made soon.

For what it's worth I think we would be strong contenders next year with either of these two at the helm. My personal preference would still be Sherwood whose strong, forthright and seemingly honest approach appears to me just what our squad and our club needs post Oscar. I think some players will respond well to being told that they aren't doing what's needed to retain a starting place and if they can't then they shouldn't be wearing the stripes. Having said that, my preference may be coloured by knowing little about Clement who also sounds like a strong character, particularly on the training ground.

In TB I trust to make the right decision for our club. After all, he was a supporter before becoming owner and every decision he makes is with a view to getting the best available in his eyes. He (obviously) knows infinitely more than us about the internal workings of BHA and I trust him to make the right decision - I just hope he does it soon so that we don't lose any options to other clubs!!

UTA!!
Hmmm the bookies are going on who is available MM was a "hot contender" a week ago, now states he does not want the job,
I don't think it's between those two, and reason is do we know if they will accept a DOF ? Clement may well do, but if the a budget is not good enough then promotion is a big ask.
[quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: If, as the bookies would have us believe, the decision looks like coming down to either Sherwood or Clement, then we seem to be in a pretty good place. If it REALLY is between these two then discussions and negotiations should be at a pretty advanced stage by now and hopefully white plumes of smoke will shorty be seen over the Amex chimney and an announcement will be made soon. For what it's worth I think we would be strong contenders next year with either of these two at the helm. My personal preference would still be Sherwood whose strong, forthright and seemingly honest approach appears to me just what our squad and our club needs post Oscar. I think some players will respond well to being told that they aren't doing what's needed to retain a starting place and if they can't then they shouldn't be wearing the stripes. Having said that, my preference may be coloured by knowing little about Clement who also sounds like a strong character, particularly on the training ground. In TB I trust to make the right decision for our club. After all, he was a supporter before becoming owner and every decision he makes is with a view to getting the best available in his eyes. He (obviously) knows infinitely more than us about the internal workings of BHA and I trust him to make the right decision - I just hope he does it soon so that we don't lose any options to other clubs!! UTA!![/p][/quote]Hmmm the bookies are going on who is available MM was a "hot contender" a week ago, now states he does not want the job, I don't think it's between those two, and reason is do we know if they will accept a DOF ? Clement may well do, but if the a budget is not good enough then promotion is a big ask. mark by the sea
  • Score: 1

8:40am Mon 19 May 14

Rhodes Seagull says...

Any odds on us announcing a manager today?
I no there are certain people at the club who think they no football and can make decisions on comings and goings of players but there should be a manager there to decide these things also be there now to get the feel of the club before going into training for next season.
I no these appointments can time but how long before the club give even a hint who they want to be the next in CHARGE?
Any odds on us announcing a manager today? I no there are certain people at the club who think they no football and can make decisions on comings and goings of players but there should be a manager there to decide these things also be there now to get the feel of the club before going into training for next season. I no these appointments can time but how long before the club give even a hint who they want to be the next in CHARGE? Rhodes Seagull
  • Score: -13

8:45am Mon 19 May 14

Max Ripple says...

Trouble is, I'll bet the club take too long over their prevarications and end up losing out on the one they want. We'll end up with our third or fourth choice because the others will have gone elsewhere. TB might be a good poker player but these managers and their agents have been around the block a few times, too.
Thanks for everything Dave. I've never seen such great vision in those long diagonal passes in an Albion side. And great dead ball stuff, too. Good luck with the future.
Trouble is, I'll bet the club take too long over their prevarications and end up losing out on the one they want. We'll end up with our third or fourth choice because the others will have gone elsewhere. TB might be a good poker player but these managers and their agents have been around the block a few times, too. Thanks for everything Dave. I've never seen such great vision in those long diagonal passes in an Albion side. And great dead ball stuff, too. Good luck with the future. Max Ripple
  • Score: 6

8:57am Mon 19 May 14

mikeygit says...

I guess as fans we really do not know who is in contention and it may be someone completely different. We only have the Bookies opinions to go on. As for Sherwoods ´honest ´comment I would be surprised if it were directed only at Brighton. At least BHA Board seem to be more honest than most with their finances and how they spend money in the club---having said that they do need to spend next season with so many players now gone. Yes nice one Dave you were a good servant to the club even if your performances were inconsistent.
I guess as fans we really do not know who is in contention and it may be someone completely different. We only have the Bookies opinions to go on. As for Sherwoods ´honest ´comment I would be surprised if it were directed only at Brighton. At least BHA Board seem to be more honest than most with their finances and how they spend money in the club---having said that they do need to spend next season with so many players now gone. Yes nice one Dave you were a good servant to the club even if your performances were inconsistent. mikeygit
  • Score: 1

8:57am Mon 19 May 14

Claude Back says...

Rhodes Seagull wrote:
Any odds on us announcing a manager today?
I no there are certain people at the club who think they no football and can make decisions on comings and goings of players but there should be a manager there to decide these things also be there now to get the feel of the club before going into training for next season.
I no these appointments can time but how long before the club give even a hint who they want to be the next in CHARGE?
Today? I think that's a KNOW KNOW. ;-)
[quote][p][bold]Rhodes Seagull[/bold] wrote: Any odds on us announcing a manager today? I no there are certain people at the club who think they no football and can make decisions on comings and goings of players but there should be a manager there to decide these things also be there now to get the feel of the club before going into training for next season. I no these appointments can time but how long before the club give even a hint who they want to be the next in CHARGE?[/p][/quote]Today? I think that's a KNOW KNOW. ;-) Claude Back
  • Score: 12

9:00am Mon 19 May 14

peterpan32 says...

I see Oscar has said he wants to be next Southampton manager (first team coach,head coach) which ever one he wans to be called, if they lose theirs to spurs
I see Oscar has said he wants to be next Southampton manager (first team coach,head coach) which ever one he wans to be called, if they lose theirs to spurs peterpan32
  • Score: 1

9:01am Mon 19 May 14

Claude Back says...

Oscar's Chin wrote:
Why would Zola distance himself? Is he expecting to walk into a PL job?
As Zola is one of Gus' best mates I think Gus may have warned him what he is up against, budget wise and DOF.
[quote][p][bold]Oscar's Chin[/bold] wrote: Why would Zola distance himself? Is he expecting to walk into a PL job?[/p][/quote]As Zola is one of Gus' best mates I think Gus may have warned him what he is up against, budget wise and DOF. Claude Back
  • Score: 2

9:14am Mon 19 May 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Max Ripple wrote:
Trouble is, I'll bet the club take too long over their prevarications and end up losing out on the one they want. We'll end up with our third or fourth choice because the others will have gone elsewhere. TB might be a good poker player but these managers and their agents have been around the block a few times, too.
Thanks for everything Dave. I've never seen such great vision in those long diagonal passes in an Albion side. And great dead ball stuff, too. Good luck with the future.
How do you know the one you want until you've had the time to get to know them a little? Act in haste, repent at leisure.
It's a bit like getting married. You have a good old rummage around in the market before you find one you really like - and it takes time. And if the one you really like has gone elsewhere, then they weren't right for you in the first place - otherwise they'd have waited too.
I know it'll seem a ridiculous statement to some, but I actually think we have people in charge who know a little bit about what they're doing...
[quote][p][bold]Max Ripple[/bold] wrote: Trouble is, I'll bet the club take too long over their prevarications and end up losing out on the one they want. We'll end up with our third or fourth choice because the others will have gone elsewhere. TB might be a good poker player but these managers and their agents have been around the block a few times, too. Thanks for everything Dave. I've never seen such great vision in those long diagonal passes in an Albion side. And great dead ball stuff, too. Good luck with the future.[/p][/quote]How do you know the one you want until you've had the time to get to know them a little? Act in haste, repent at leisure. It's a bit like getting married. You have a good old rummage around in the market before you find one you really like - and it takes time. And if the one you really like has gone elsewhere, then they weren't right for you in the first place - otherwise they'd have waited too. I know it'll seem a ridiculous statement to some, but I actually think we have people in charge who know a little bit about what they're doing... Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 7

9:15am Mon 19 May 14

dave from bexill says...

Claude Back wrote:
Rhodes Seagull wrote:
Any odds on us announcing a manager today?
I no there are certain people at the club who think they no football and can make decisions on comings and goings of players but there should be a manager there to decide these things also be there now to get the feel of the club before going into training for next season.
I no these appointments can time but how long before the club give even a hint who they want to be the next in CHARGE?
Today? I think that's a KNOW KNOW. ;-)
Good start to the day Claude
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rhodes Seagull[/bold] wrote: Any odds on us announcing a manager today? I no there are certain people at the club who think they no football and can make decisions on comings and goings of players but there should be a manager there to decide these things also be there now to get the feel of the club before going into training for next season. I no these appointments can time but how long before the club give even a hint who they want to be the next in CHARGE?[/p][/quote]Today? I think that's a KNOW KNOW. ;-)[/p][/quote]Good start to the day Claude dave from bexill
  • Score: 5

9:19am Mon 19 May 14

dave from bexill says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Max Ripple wrote:
Trouble is, I'll bet the club take too long over their prevarications and end up losing out on the one they want. We'll end up with our third or fourth choice because the others will have gone elsewhere. TB might be a good poker player but these managers and their agents have been around the block a few times, too.
Thanks for everything Dave. I've never seen such great vision in those long diagonal passes in an Albion side. And great dead ball stuff, too. Good luck with the future.
How do you know the one you want until you've had the time to get to know them a little? Act in haste, repent at leisure.
It's a bit like getting married. You have a good old rummage around in the market before you find one you really like - and it takes time. And if the one you really like has gone elsewhere, then they weren't right for you in the first place - otherwise they'd have waited too.
I know it'll seem a ridiculous statement to some, but I actually think we have people in charge who know a little bit about what they're doing...
Actually, my first wife looked a bit like Gus and that didn't last either
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Max Ripple[/bold] wrote: Trouble is, I'll bet the club take too long over their prevarications and end up losing out on the one they want. We'll end up with our third or fourth choice because the others will have gone elsewhere. TB might be a good poker player but these managers and their agents have been around the block a few times, too. Thanks for everything Dave. I've never seen such great vision in those long diagonal passes in an Albion side. And great dead ball stuff, too. Good luck with the future.[/p][/quote]How do you know the one you want until you've had the time to get to know them a little? Act in haste, repent at leisure. It's a bit like getting married. You have a good old rummage around in the market before you find one you really like - and it takes time. And if the one you really like has gone elsewhere, then they weren't right for you in the first place - otherwise they'd have waited too. I know it'll seem a ridiculous statement to some, but I actually think we have people in charge who know a little bit about what they're doing...[/p][/quote]Actually, my first wife looked a bit like Gus and that didn't last either dave from bexill
  • Score: 10

9:27am Mon 19 May 14

JeffLomer says...

I would like to ask a question about Clement!!

Could we actually afford his wages if were seriously thinking off getting him in as our next manager cus I think the lad would not come cheap, you don't become a number two at one off the biggest clubs in the world and earn peanuts, there is no guarantees we can convince clement away from being our next manager, surely if Madrid win the champions league on Saturday Ancelotii will still be there next season and want his right hand man right beside him, if that was to happen wouldn't we have to pay Madrid compensation to get him, how much would that cost, could we afford to
Tim Sherwood is going to be a great manger for someone yes he is passionate, is he honestly the right man to take us forward on let's be honest a VERY limited budget, I would love to see Tim here off course I would but honestly in my head he won't come, so what do we do then pick the phone up if we can't convince Clement or Sherwood and get Steve Clarke down at the Amex,
My opinion only feel free to agree or disagree!!
Up the Albion!!!!
I would like to ask a question about Clement!! Could we actually afford his wages if were seriously thinking off getting him in as our next manager cus I think the lad would not come cheap, you don't become a number two at one off the biggest clubs in the world and earn peanuts, there is no guarantees we can convince clement away from being our next manager, surely if Madrid win the champions league on Saturday Ancelotii will still be there next season and want his right hand man right beside him, if that was to happen wouldn't we have to pay Madrid compensation to get him, how much would that cost, could we afford to Tim Sherwood is going to be a great manger for someone yes he is passionate, is he honestly the right man to take us forward on let's be honest a VERY limited budget, I would love to see Tim here off course I would but honestly in my head he won't come, so what do we do then pick the phone up if we can't convince Clement or Sherwood and get Steve Clarke down at the Amex, My opinion only feel free to agree or disagree!! Up the Albion!!!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 10

9:39am Mon 19 May 14

Oscar's Chin says...

Claude Back wrote:
Oscar's Chin wrote:
Why would Zola distance himself? Is he expecting to walk into a PL job?
As Zola is one of Gus' best mates I think Gus may have warned him what he is up against, budget wise and DOF.
True true.
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oscar's Chin[/bold] wrote: Why would Zola distance himself? Is he expecting to walk into a PL job?[/p][/quote]As Zola is one of Gus' best mates I think Gus may have warned him what he is up against, budget wise and DOF.[/p][/quote]True true. Oscar's Chin
  • Score: 2

9:41am Mon 19 May 14

Oscar's Chin says...

dave from bexill wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Max Ripple wrote:
Trouble is, I'll bet the club take too long over their prevarications and end up losing out on the one they want. We'll end up with our third or fourth choice because the others will have gone elsewhere. TB might be a good poker player but these managers and their agents have been around the block a few times, too.
Thanks for everything Dave. I've never seen such great vision in those long diagonal passes in an Albion side. And great dead ball stuff, too. Good luck with the future.
How do you know the one you want until you've had the time to get to know them a little? Act in haste, repent at leisure.
It's a bit like getting married. You have a good old rummage around in the market before you find one you really like - and it takes time. And if the one you really like has gone elsewhere, then they weren't right for you in the first place - otherwise they'd have waited too.
I know it'll seem a ridiculous statement to some, but I actually think we have people in charge who know a little bit about what they're doing...
Actually, my first wife looked a bit like Gus and that didn't last either
Good god, man! You have weird taste....mind you mine looked like Neil Warnock! ;0)
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Max Ripple[/bold] wrote: Trouble is, I'll bet the club take too long over their prevarications and end up losing out on the one they want. We'll end up with our third or fourth choice because the others will have gone elsewhere. TB might be a good poker player but these managers and their agents have been around the block a few times, too. Thanks for everything Dave. I've never seen such great vision in those long diagonal passes in an Albion side. And great dead ball stuff, too. Good luck with the future.[/p][/quote]How do you know the one you want until you've had the time to get to know them a little? Act in haste, repent at leisure. It's a bit like getting married. You have a good old rummage around in the market before you find one you really like - and it takes time. And if the one you really like has gone elsewhere, then they weren't right for you in the first place - otherwise they'd have waited too. I know it'll seem a ridiculous statement to some, but I actually think we have people in charge who know a little bit about what they're doing...[/p][/quote]Actually, my first wife looked a bit like Gus and that didn't last either[/p][/quote]Good god, man! You have weird taste....mind you mine looked like Neil Warnock! ;0) Oscar's Chin
  • Score: 2

9:45am Mon 19 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Claude Back wrote:
Oscar's Chin wrote:
Why would Zola distance himself? Is he expecting to walk into a PL job?
As Zola is one of Gus' best mates I think Gus may have warned him what he is up against, budget wise and DOF.
That, plus Zola probably wouldn't take it out of loyalty to his mate. It'd be like going out with a woman who had just dumped GP :-)
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oscar's Chin[/bold] wrote: Why would Zola distance himself? Is he expecting to walk into a PL job?[/p][/quote]As Zola is one of Gus' best mates I think Gus may have warned him what he is up against, budget wise and DOF.[/p][/quote]That, plus Zola probably wouldn't take it out of loyalty to his mate. It'd be like going out with a woman who had just dumped GP :-) Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 2

10:54am Mon 19 May 14

fan since 61 says...

Alan Curbishley, Glenn Hoddle its names like these would show a clear statement of intent, mid table mediocraty They are yesterdays men and would clearly show where the club stands.
Alan Curbishley, Glenn Hoddle its names like these would show a clear statement of intent, mid table mediocraty They are yesterdays men and would clearly show where the club stands. fan since 61
  • Score: -4

11:39am Mon 19 May 14

albionfan33 says...

JeffLomer wrote:
I would like to ask a question about Clement!!

Could we actually afford his wages if were seriously thinking off getting him in as our next manager cus I think the lad would not come cheap, you don't become a number two at one off the biggest clubs in the world and earn peanuts, there is no guarantees we can convince clement away from being our next manager, surely if Madrid win the champions league on Saturday Ancelotii will still be there next season and want his right hand man right beside him, if that was to happen wouldn't we have to pay Madrid compensation to get him, how much would that cost, could we afford to
Tim Sherwood is going to be a great manger for someone yes he is passionate, is he honestly the right man to take us forward on let's be honest a VERY limited budget, I would love to see Tim here off course I would but honestly in my head he won't come, so what do we do then pick the phone up if we can't convince Clement or Sherwood and get Steve Clarke down at the Amex,
My opinion only feel free to agree or disagree!!
Up the Albion!!!!
the point is that you will only remember ancelotti being manager not that clement was his number 2 i would imagine a wage drop to get his name in lights would be a small price to pay
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: I would like to ask a question about Clement!! Could we actually afford his wages if were seriously thinking off getting him in as our next manager cus I think the lad would not come cheap, you don't become a number two at one off the biggest clubs in the world and earn peanuts, there is no guarantees we can convince clement away from being our next manager, surely if Madrid win the champions league on Saturday Ancelotii will still be there next season and want his right hand man right beside him, if that was to happen wouldn't we have to pay Madrid compensation to get him, how much would that cost, could we afford to Tim Sherwood is going to be a great manger for someone yes he is passionate, is he honestly the right man to take us forward on let's be honest a VERY limited budget, I would love to see Tim here off course I would but honestly in my head he won't come, so what do we do then pick the phone up if we can't convince Clement or Sherwood and get Steve Clarke down at the Amex, My opinion only feel free to agree or disagree!! Up the Albion!!!![/p][/quote]the point is that you will only remember ancelotti being manager not that clement was his number 2 i would imagine a wage drop to get his name in lights would be a small price to pay albionfan33
  • Score: 1

11:39am Mon 19 May 14

albionfan33 says...

JeffLomer wrote:
I would like to ask a question about Clement!!

Could we actually afford his wages if were seriously thinking off getting him in as our next manager cus I think the lad would not come cheap, you don't become a number two at one off the biggest clubs in the world and earn peanuts, there is no guarantees we can convince clement away from being our next manager, surely if Madrid win the champions league on Saturday Ancelotii will still be there next season and want his right hand man right beside him, if that was to happen wouldn't we have to pay Madrid compensation to get him, how much would that cost, could we afford to
Tim Sherwood is going to be a great manger for someone yes he is passionate, is he honestly the right man to take us forward on let's be honest a VERY limited budget, I would love to see Tim here off course I would but honestly in my head he won't come, so what do we do then pick the phone up if we can't convince Clement or Sherwood and get Steve Clarke down at the Amex,
My opinion only feel free to agree or disagree!!
Up the Albion!!!!
the point is that you will only remember ancelotti being manager not that clement was his number 2 i would imagine a wage drop to get his name in lights would be a small price to pay
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: I would like to ask a question about Clement!! Could we actually afford his wages if were seriously thinking off getting him in as our next manager cus I think the lad would not come cheap, you don't become a number two at one off the biggest clubs in the world and earn peanuts, there is no guarantees we can convince clement away from being our next manager, surely if Madrid win the champions league on Saturday Ancelotii will still be there next season and want his right hand man right beside him, if that was to happen wouldn't we have to pay Madrid compensation to get him, how much would that cost, could we afford to Tim Sherwood is going to be a great manger for someone yes he is passionate, is he honestly the right man to take us forward on let's be honest a VERY limited budget, I would love to see Tim here off course I would but honestly in my head he won't come, so what do we do then pick the phone up if we can't convince Clement or Sherwood and get Steve Clarke down at the Amex, My opinion only feel free to agree or disagree!! Up the Albion!!!![/p][/quote]the point is that you will only remember ancelotti being manager not that clement was his number 2 i would imagine a wage drop to get his name in lights would be a small price to pay albionfan33
  • Score: 0

11:44am Mon 19 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

fan since 61 wrote:
Alan Curbishley, Glenn Hoddle its names like these would show a clear statement of intent, mid table mediocraty They are yesterdays men and would clearly show where the club stands.
Why are they "yesterday's men" any more than other managers of the same age or older?
[quote][p][bold]fan since 61[/bold] wrote: Alan Curbishley, Glenn Hoddle its names like these would show a clear statement of intent, mid table mediocraty They are yesterdays men and would clearly show where the club stands.[/p][/quote]Why are they "yesterday's men" any more than other managers of the same age or older? Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 4

12:13pm Mon 19 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

Just a thought.
Most would guess that our transfer budget for the coming season will be tight, that's understandable and probably correct, but it's possible that for the right manager, it might not be quite so tight.

We have no idea as to who has bought the naming rights to our new facility, my guess is a car company in one way or another, did they pay five, ten or twenty million, or perhaps just two. Was the payment a lump sum or will it be spread over anything from five to twenty years, who knows.
Our new shirt deal, what is that worth in monetay terms to the club, and how will that cash flow.

We can all guess at what the budget will be, anything around five or six million could be right, but the figure could be higher. We had to cut our operational losses by three million to comply with the FFP, well the sale of Bridcutt has ensured that will happen. At the start of last season Barber would have had a financial plan to save that money, and I doubt it was centered on selling Bridders, so it's quite possible that the money brought in from the players we sold, could be sitting in the bank, or at least a big chunk of it could be.

The right man with the right ideas just might get more fanancial backing than many of us think he will.
Just a thought. Most would guess that our transfer budget for the coming season will be tight, that's understandable and probably correct, but it's possible that for the right manager, it might not be quite so tight. We have no idea as to who has bought the naming rights to our new facility, my guess is a car company in one way or another, did they pay five, ten or twenty million, or perhaps just two. Was the payment a lump sum or will it be spread over anything from five to twenty years, who knows. Our new shirt deal, what is that worth in monetay terms to the club, and how will that cash flow. We can all guess at what the budget will be, anything around five or six million could be right, but the figure could be higher. We had to cut our operational losses by three million to comply with the FFP, well the sale of Bridcutt has ensured that will happen. At the start of last season Barber would have had a financial plan to save that money, and I doubt it was centered on selling Bridders, so it's quite possible that the money brought in from the players we sold, could be sitting in the bank, or at least a big chunk of it could be. The right man with the right ideas just might get more fanancial backing than many of us think he will. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -2

12:47pm Mon 19 May 14

Cap'n Pugwash says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
fan since 61 wrote:
Alan Curbishley, Glenn Hoddle its names like these would show a clear statement of intent, mid table mediocraty They are yesterdays men and would clearly show where the club stands.
Why are they "yesterday's men" any more than other managers of the same age or older?
Curbishley hasn't had a manager's job for 6 years. Hoddle 8 years.

92 clubs to choose them in that period-none did. They are no more or less 'yesterday's men' than the others you mentioned but they are yesterday's men nonetheless. Both have been out of football too long.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fan since 61[/bold] wrote: Alan Curbishley, Glenn Hoddle its names like these would show a clear statement of intent, mid table mediocraty They are yesterdays men and would clearly show where the club stands.[/p][/quote]Why are they "yesterday's men" any more than other managers of the same age or older?[/p][/quote]Curbishley hasn't had a manager's job for 6 years. Hoddle 8 years. 92 clubs to choose them in that period-none did. They are no more or less 'yesterday's men' than the others you mentioned but they are yesterday's men nonetheless. Both have been out of football too long. Cap'n Pugwash
  • Score: 1

5:02pm Mon 19 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Cap'n Pugwash wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
fan since 61 wrote:
Alan Curbishley, Glenn Hoddle its names like these would show a clear statement of intent, mid table mediocraty They are yesterdays men and would clearly show where the club stands.
Why are they "yesterday's men" any more than other managers of the same age or older?
Curbishley hasn't had a manager's job for 6 years. Hoddle 8 years.

92 clubs to choose them in that period-none did. They are no more or less 'yesterday's men' than the others you mentioned but they are yesterday's men nonetheless. Both have been out of football too long.
Hoddle has been coaching for almost that entire period of time. Curbishley was unable to coach for a long period due to an ongoing legal dispute with West Ham, but did a lot of scouting (so probably has a far better grasp of the football elague thatn Sherwood). He was recently involved with Fulham (I believe). Neither have been out of football.
[quote][p][bold]Cap'n Pugwash[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fan since 61[/bold] wrote: Alan Curbishley, Glenn Hoddle its names like these would show a clear statement of intent, mid table mediocraty They are yesterdays men and would clearly show where the club stands.[/p][/quote]Why are they "yesterday's men" any more than other managers of the same age or older?[/p][/quote]Curbishley hasn't had a manager's job for 6 years. Hoddle 8 years. 92 clubs to choose them in that period-none did. They are no more or less 'yesterday's men' than the others you mentioned but they are yesterday's men nonetheless. Both have been out of football too long.[/p][/quote]Hoddle has been coaching for almost that entire period of time. Curbishley was unable to coach for a long period due to an ongoing legal dispute with West Ham, but did a lot of scouting (so probably has a far better grasp of the football elague thatn Sherwood). He was recently involved with Fulham (I believe). Neither have been out of football. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

7:49pm Mon 19 May 14

fan since 61 says...

By yesterdays men I think they have had their chance and failed, Cant see either of them or there like succeeding in current times. We need new blood Thats not to say Sherwood or others would produce the goods but lets give them a chance.
By yesterdays men I think they have had their chance and failed, Cant see either of them or there like succeeding in current times. We need new blood Thats not to say Sherwood or others would produce the goods but lets give them a chance. fan since 61
  • Score: 2

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