Albion told it would be "very difficult" to get Clement

Paul Clement has been linked with the Albion manager's job but is expected to remain at Real Madrid

Paul Clement has been linked with the Albion manager's job but is expected to remain at Real Madrid

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Albion fans have been told it would be “very difficult” for the club to bring in Paul Clement as their new boss.

But Carlo Ancelotti would have the final say IF the Seagulls wanted his assistant at Real Madrid to replace Oscar Garcia in charge.

Albion continue to be linked with Ancelotti’s trusted tactical expert as he helps Madrid prepare for the Champions League final against cross-city rivals Atletico on Saturday.

Tim Sherwood has also attracted backing in the past week although he revealed on national radio yesterday morning he had had no contact with Albion.

Clement would be an imaginative appointment but the chances of him taking a managerial post in England would reduce if, as expected, his fellow assistant Zinedine Zidane leaves the Bernabeu to take over at Bordeaux.

Ruben Jimenez, leading Real writer for top Madrid-based sports newspaper Marca, last night told The Argus: “It is very improbable that Clement would go if Zidane went.

“It would be very difficult for Paul to also leave. It would hinge on Ancelotti giving his permission but I don’t see it happening.

“We are sure Zidane is leaving. But no one has really spoken about Paul leaving and I don’t think he is expected to go.”

Sherwood remains favourite for the vacant post and has not ruled out a move into the Championship following his recent sacking by Spurs.

He told talkSPORT radio: “I have not spoken (to Albion). I have not been offered the job.

“I’ve heard a lot of rumours but I’m happy to speak to any clubs. I want to stay in management.”

It is thought Chris Hughton would be interested in the Albion post.

The former Birmingham and Norwich boss was close to joining West Brom, who also have a vacancy, last summer. At the time he was unable to reach agreement with the Baggies over backroom staff.

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7:32am Tue 20 May 14

SonnyJim55 says...

Chris Hughton please No. I thought we would end up here at some point, very uninspiring. Of course he would like the job, he has just effectively taken Norwich down. Has been sacked from almost every job he has had. No doubt this post will get the thumbs down though from those who see him as a 'safe' pair of hands!
Chris Hughton please No. I thought we would end up here at some point, very uninspiring. Of course he would like the job, he has just effectively taken Norwich down. Has been sacked from almost every job he has had. No doubt this post will get the thumbs down though from those who see him as a 'safe' pair of hands! SonnyJim55
  • Score: 86

7:51am Tue 20 May 14

mark by the sea says...

Again houghton is now really on last job syndrome , his next job has to be successful or he will end up like Danny Wilson , Brian Horton scrambling for a lower division club.
I also see jones has 2% of the vote for next man anger?
EX PAT ARNIE , you have been found out for voting more than once using your other name!
Again houghton is now really on last job syndrome , his next job has to be successful or he will end up like Danny Wilson , Brian Horton scrambling for a lower division club. I also see jones has 2% of the vote for next man anger? EX PAT ARNIE , you have been found out for voting more than once using your other name! mark by the sea
  • Score: 6

7:56am Tue 20 May 14

peterpan32 says...

Hurry up getting TS or could end up with another unknown guy who will think he is to big for the club come the end of the season. If not TS then maybe Karl Robinson
Hurry up getting TS or could end up with another unknown guy who will think he is to big for the club come the end of the season. If not TS then maybe Karl Robinson peterpan32
  • Score: -17

8:10am Tue 20 May 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

SonnyJim55 wrote:
Chris Hughton please No. I thought we would end up here at some point, very uninspiring. Of course he would like the job, he has just effectively taken Norwich down. Has been sacked from almost every job he has had. No doubt this post will get the thumbs down though from those who see him as a 'safe' pair of hands!
Totally agree.Hughton has spent millions on a striker for example and has scored just twice last season- Mr. Rip Van Winkel ?!
[quote][p][bold]SonnyJim55[/bold] wrote: Chris Hughton please No. I thought we would end up here at some point, very uninspiring. Of course he would like the job, he has just effectively taken Norwich down. Has been sacked from almost every job he has had. No doubt this post will get the thumbs down though from those who see him as a 'safe' pair of hands![/p][/quote]Totally agree.Hughton has spent millions on a striker for example and has scored just twice last season- Mr. Rip Van Winkel ?! SeagullOverSelsey
  • Score: 11

8:24am Tue 20 May 14

paul6391 says...

Good grief please not hughton.......I'd like to see... He Shot He Scored It Must Be Peter Ward...Peter Ward.. at the helm.............And why not...
Good grief please not hughton.......I'd like to see... He Shot He Scored It Must Be Peter Ward...Peter Ward.. at the helm.............And why not... paul6391
  • Score: -16

8:25am Tue 20 May 14

Nosfaratu says...

O dear, fancy sacking your manager and then finding no-one wants the job.
I wonder why?

On another note, please go to Change.org and petition the US CoastGuard to resume the search for the British crew of the Cheeki Rafiki, a sailing yacht from Southampton. These Guys have Families and should not just forgotten.
Its Free to sign.
O dear, fancy sacking your manager and then finding no-one wants the job. I wonder why? On another note, please go to Change.org and petition the US CoastGuard to resume the search for the British crew of the Cheeki Rafiki, a sailing yacht from Southampton. These Guys have Families and should not just forgotten. Its Free to sign. Nosfaratu
  • Score: -39

8:27am Tue 20 May 14

mark by the sea says...

peterpan32 wrote:
Hurry up getting TS or could end up with another unknown guy who will think he is to big for the club come the end of the season. If not TS then maybe Karl Robinson
This story is thin to say the least, a Spanish journalist is quoted saying the manager would have to give clement his release! How on earth can that be a guide to reality?
A conversation may have been held already with the players not being told till after the game!
I see houghton was close to the west brom job , but failed to agree over backroom staffing? Thank god he won't come here if jones is staying?
On a serious note we need to employ a manager who can hopefully ensure upson stays , and starts bringing in quality loans,
Scott Sinclair is looking to rebuild his career on loan away from man city,
He won't leave a contract paying 80k a week .. But city might be happy to let him out, saints have a glut of quality players in the developement. Squad several who played in the prem last season, gallagher 6.4 " centreforward , quick and powerful.
Joe cole is worth a punt in my opinion, real creative talent.
Speroni the keeper,
Will players be sold? To be honest only ulloa , march and Buckley would fetch decent money, even Buckley has to improve his injury crisis or won't be worth much come 2015. He should have been sold if the crazy offer of 1.5 million from palace was turned down!
[quote][p][bold]peterpan32[/bold] wrote: Hurry up getting TS or could end up with another unknown guy who will think he is to big for the club come the end of the season. If not TS then maybe Karl Robinson[/p][/quote]This story is thin to say the least, a Spanish journalist is quoted saying the manager would have to give clement his release! How on earth can that be a guide to reality? A conversation may have been held already with the players not being told till after the game! I see houghton was close to the west brom job , but failed to agree over backroom staffing? Thank god he won't come here if jones is staying? On a serious note we need to employ a manager who can hopefully ensure upson stays , and starts bringing in quality loans, Scott Sinclair is looking to rebuild his career on loan away from man city, He won't leave a contract paying 80k a week .. But city might be happy to let him out, saints have a glut of quality players in the developement. Squad several who played in the prem last season, gallagher 6.4 " centreforward , quick and powerful. Joe cole is worth a punt in my opinion, real creative talent. Speroni the keeper, Will players be sold? To be honest only ulloa , march and Buckley would fetch decent money, even Buckley has to improve his injury crisis or won't be worth much come 2015. He should have been sold if the crazy offer of 1.5 million from palace was turned down! mark by the sea
  • Score: -4

9:02am Tue 20 May 14

Anthony 14 says...

I don't understand all the negative comments about Chris Hughton. His record in the Championship is excellent, he took Newcastle up as Champions after they hit an all time low and then took Birmingham to 4th with an average squad. He obviously knows the division well and knows what it takes to get teams promoted.

I think its harsh to judge Hughton on the season just gone. It wasn't his best but he took Norwich to 11th the season before, which was a great achievement. They were never really going to improve on that were they? I think Hughton would be an astute appointment, so some of the comments on here baffle me. Peter Ward as manager! Surely that just a terrible joke??
I don't understand all the negative comments about Chris Hughton. His record in the Championship is excellent, he took Newcastle up as Champions after they hit an all time low and then took Birmingham to 4th with an average squad. He obviously knows the division well and knows what it takes to get teams promoted. I think its harsh to judge Hughton on the season just gone. It wasn't his best but he took Norwich to 11th the season before, which was a great achievement. They were never really going to improve on that were they? I think Hughton would be an astute appointment, so some of the comments on here baffle me. Peter Ward as manager! Surely that just a terrible joke?? Anthony 14
  • Score: 13

9:05am Tue 20 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Again houghton is now really on last job syndrome , his next job has to be successful or he will end up like Danny Wilson , Brian Horton scrambling for a lower division club.
I also see jones has 2% of the vote for next man anger?
EX PAT ARNIE , you have been found out for voting more than once using your other name!
What other name? Sometimes Mark your posts are indistinguishable from Freeloaders's.

Hughton did a great job at Newcastle with a >55% win ratio and nearly 2pts/game, a far, far better record than the present idiot incumbent. Having said that I would also be uninspired by his appointment so voted for Clement instead.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Again houghton is now really on last job syndrome , his next job has to be successful or he will end up like Danny Wilson , Brian Horton scrambling for a lower division club. I also see jones has 2% of the vote for next man anger? EX PAT ARNIE , you have been found out for voting more than once using your other name![/p][/quote]What other name? Sometimes Mark your posts are indistinguishable from Freeloaders's. Hughton did a great job at Newcastle with a >55% win ratio and nearly 2pts/game, a far, far better record than the present idiot incumbent. Having said that I would also be uninspired by his appointment so voted for Clement instead. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 2

9:07am Tue 20 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Hold on, just realised MBTS was accusing me of voting for Jones, not Hughton. Wow. Just wow.

You seemed to have gained the impression I want Jones to stay. Not true, as I made quite clear. I just said that the club would be stupid to fire him until we get someone else in, at which time 'adios'.
Hold on, just realised MBTS was accusing me of voting for Jones, not Hughton. Wow. Just wow. You seemed to have gained the impression I want Jones to stay. Not true, as I made quite clear. I just said that the club would be stupid to fire him until we get someone else in, at which time 'adios'. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 2

9:08am Tue 20 May 14

olebut says...

I would be unhappy with either Hughton or Sherwood , both I think would leave if a premiership club came knocking at the door . Clement sounds like a better prospect.
I would be unhappy with either Hughton or Sherwood , both I think would leave if a premiership club came knocking at the door . Clement sounds like a better prospect. olebut
  • Score: 3

9:30am Tue 20 May 14

SonnyJim55 says...

Anthony 14 wrote:
I don't understand all the negative comments about Chris Hughton. His record in the Championship is excellent, he took Newcastle up as Champions after they hit an all time low and then took Birmingham to 4th with an average squad. He obviously knows the division well and knows what it takes to get teams promoted.

I think its harsh to judge Hughton on the season just gone. It wasn't his best but he took Norwich to 11th the season before, which was a great achievement. They were never really going to improve on that were they? I think Hughton would be an astute appointment, so some of the comments on here baffle me. Peter Ward as manager! Surely that just a terrible joke??
To be fair I think Newcastle would have been promoted whoever had been in charge that season, they had the best squad by a mile. Ok he did a good job with Birmingham under difficult circumstances but is that what we are after, a safe pair of hands (as I said before)? I thought we had moved on from that, an up and coming club looking towards the premier legaue surely wants someone at the helm who has got a bit more about them than that? Hughton has been in the game a long time, he has never been that inspirational, I dont think he is for us. Personally I want TS, I think he did a good job at Spurs in his first managerial role and the fans and players alike would like him.
[quote][p][bold]Anthony 14[/bold] wrote: I don't understand all the negative comments about Chris Hughton. His record in the Championship is excellent, he took Newcastle up as Champions after they hit an all time low and then took Birmingham to 4th with an average squad. He obviously knows the division well and knows what it takes to get teams promoted. I think its harsh to judge Hughton on the season just gone. It wasn't his best but he took Norwich to 11th the season before, which was a great achievement. They were never really going to improve on that were they? I think Hughton would be an astute appointment, so some of the comments on here baffle me. Peter Ward as manager! Surely that just a terrible joke??[/p][/quote]To be fair I think Newcastle would have been promoted whoever had been in charge that season, they had the best squad by a mile. Ok he did a good job with Birmingham under difficult circumstances but is that what we are after, a safe pair of hands (as I said before)? I thought we had moved on from that, an up and coming club looking towards the premier legaue surely wants someone at the helm who has got a bit more about them than that? Hughton has been in the game a long time, he has never been that inspirational, I dont think he is for us. Personally I want TS, I think he did a good job at Spurs in his first managerial role and the fans and players alike would like him. SonnyJim55
  • Score: 5

9:41am Tue 20 May 14

rolivan says...

Nobody has told me it would be difficult to get Clement has anyone else been told?
Nobody has told me it would be difficult to get Clement has anyone else been told? rolivan
  • Score: 7

10:03am Tue 20 May 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Who'd have thought a few years back that a possible Albion manager would depend on Zinedine Zidane. Soak up the reflected glory and accept that we won't hear anything until we get notice of the imminent announcement and then the announcement.
I still fully expect the unexpected.
In the meantime stop wasting all this nervous energy and let TB get on with it.
UTA
Who'd have thought a few years back that a possible Albion manager would depend on Zinedine Zidane. Soak up the reflected glory and accept that we won't hear anything until we get notice of the imminent announcement and then the announcement. I still fully expect the unexpected. In the meantime stop wasting all this nervous energy and let TB get on with it. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 11

10:03am Tue 20 May 14

mark by the sea says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Hold on, just realised MBTS was accusing me of voting for Jones, not Hughton. Wow. Just wow.

You seemed to have gained the impression I want Jones to stay. Not true, as I made quite clear. I just said that the club would be stupid to fire him until we get someone else in, at which time 'adios'.
Jesus mate ! Just banta! I was joking! I don't think anyone wants people kept on the basis that anyone taking the job has to work with him or anyone else!
I appreciate your view also on DOF , however are we not assuming that his role at spurs is the same as it is here? Was he involved with the scouting system? Or was he there simply to thrash out the best financial for spurs?
The problem is see is we assume one persons role is the same at another club even if given the same title!
I think TB or Burke eluded that regarding the next coach being called manager or the other way around, however his role won't be any different to OG .
As you say houghton has some pedigree in the championship , but he has not taken the west brom job because of backroom issues ?
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: Hold on, just realised MBTS was accusing me of voting for Jones, not Hughton. Wow. Just wow. You seemed to have gained the impression I want Jones to stay. Not true, as I made quite clear. I just said that the club would be stupid to fire him until we get someone else in, at which time 'adios'.[/p][/quote]Jesus mate ! Just banta! I was joking! I don't think anyone wants people kept on the basis that anyone taking the job has to work with him or anyone else! I appreciate your view also on DOF , however are we not assuming that his role at spurs is the same as it is here? Was he involved with the scouting system? Or was he there simply to thrash out the best financial for spurs? The problem is see is we assume one persons role is the same at another club even if given the same title! I think TB or Burke eluded that regarding the next coach being called manager or the other way around, however his role won't be any different to OG . As you say houghton has some pedigree in the championship , but he has not taken the west brom job because of backroom issues ? mark by the sea
  • Score: -3

10:03am Tue 20 May 14

Tommy11 says...

Anthony 14 wrote:
I don't understand all the negative comments about Chris Hughton. His record in the Championship is excellent, he took Newcastle up as Champions after they hit an all time low and then took Birmingham to 4th with an average squad. He obviously knows the division well and knows what it takes to get teams promoted. I think its harsh to judge Hughton on the season just gone. It wasn't his best but he took Norwich to 11th the season before, which was a great achievement. They were never really going to improve on that were they? I think Hughton would be an astute appointment, so some of the comments on here baffle me. Peter Ward as manager! Surely that just a terrible joke??
Totally agree Anthony – I cannot understand why people think that Hughton is a bad choice. He has an excellent record in the championship – look at Birmingham now without him??? Hughton is calm, collective, good talker, knows the division and players – He will do a great job for us.

People really make me laugh when they say ‘ He was sacked at Norwich and took them down’. Norwich will always be a club near the bottom of the division – what do they expect? He took them to 11th last season which was an incredible achievement.

Just because a manager has been sacked does not mean they are a bad manager – some people really need to grow up! Look at Mclaren – he has been sacked numerous times and he wiped the floor with us this season!!

Albion Fans – take a reality check – were not going to get people like Michael Laudraup!
[quote][p][bold]Anthony 14[/bold] wrote: I don't understand all the negative comments about Chris Hughton. His record in the Championship is excellent, he took Newcastle up as Champions after they hit an all time low and then took Birmingham to 4th with an average squad. He obviously knows the division well and knows what it takes to get teams promoted. I think its harsh to judge Hughton on the season just gone. It wasn't his best but he took Norwich to 11th the season before, which was a great achievement. They were never really going to improve on that were they? I think Hughton would be an astute appointment, so some of the comments on here baffle me. Peter Ward as manager! Surely that just a terrible joke??[/p][/quote]Totally agree Anthony – I cannot understand why people think that Hughton is a bad choice. He has an excellent record in the championship – look at Birmingham now without him??? Hughton is calm, collective, good talker, knows the division and players – He will do a great job for us. People really make me laugh when they say ‘ He was sacked at Norwich and took them down’. Norwich will always be a club near the bottom of the division – what do they expect? He took them to 11th last season which was an incredible achievement. Just because a manager has been sacked does not mean they are a bad manager – some people really need to grow up! Look at Mclaren – he has been sacked numerous times and he wiped the floor with us this season!! Albion Fans – take a reality check – were not going to get people like Michael Laudraup! Tommy11
  • Score: 6

10:10am Tue 20 May 14

mark by the sea says...

Anyone want to value our squad ?
I reckon it's half what it was 12 months ago, take Buckley march and ulloa and I think we could not raise more than a million for the rest,
CMS would never transfer when on his wages here, so he can't be sold!
Anyone want to value our squad ? I reckon it's half what it was 12 months ago, take Buckley march and ulloa and I think we could not raise more than a million for the rest, CMS would never transfer when on his wages here, so he can't be sold! mark by the sea
  • Score: -7

10:51am Tue 20 May 14

pjwilk says...

Brian from Leeds is the man he will be sacked soon or will be easy to pry away.A good honest Championship Manager who plays attacking football.
Brian from Leeds is the man he will be sacked soon or will be easy to pry away.A good honest Championship Manager who plays attacking football. pjwilk
  • Score: -6

11:11am Tue 20 May 14

JeffLomer says...

Shall we all be patient and wait and see who we bring in to be our next manager, everyone speculating who or it won't be gets a bit boring, we might be interested in Clement but I would bet he has no desire to leave Madrid to come to us and why would he, Sherwood probably not even applied for the job he might be open to offers yes more like a team in the premiership rather than championship, all were getting from the Argus is they no absoutely nothing like us fans do, until the there is fact from the three guys upstairs who is coming in the Argus will print pointless headlines like above because Brighton won't tell them a thing and rightly so, Bloom told radio Sussex before the Argus about why Oscar left,
Up the Albion !!!!
Shall we all be patient and wait and see who we bring in to be our next manager, everyone speculating who or it won't be gets a bit boring, we might be interested in Clement but I would bet he has no desire to leave Madrid to come to us and why would he, Sherwood probably not even applied for the job he might be open to offers yes more like a team in the premiership rather than championship, all were getting from the Argus is they no absoutely nothing like us fans do, until the there is fact from the three guys upstairs who is coming in the Argus will print pointless headlines like above because Brighton won't tell them a thing and rightly so, Bloom told radio Sussex before the Argus about why Oscar left, Up the Albion !!!! JeffLomer
  • Score: -3

11:34am Tue 20 May 14

dave from bexill says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Shall we all be patient and wait and see who we bring in to be our next manager, everyone speculating who or it won't be gets a bit boring, we might be interested in Clement but I would bet he has no desire to leave Madrid to come to us and why would he, Sherwood probably not even applied for the job he might be open to offers yes more like a team in the premiership rather than championship, all were getting from the Argus is they no absoutely nothing like us fans do, until the there is fact from the three guys upstairs who is coming in the Argus will print pointless headlines like above because Brighton won't tell them a thing and rightly so, Bloom told radio Sussex before the Argus about why Oscar left,
Up the Albion !!!!
Hi Jeff, does the club have a problem with the Argus then?
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Shall we all be patient and wait and see who we bring in to be our next manager, everyone speculating who or it won't be gets a bit boring, we might be interested in Clement but I would bet he has no desire to leave Madrid to come to us and why would he, Sherwood probably not even applied for the job he might be open to offers yes more like a team in the premiership rather than championship, all were getting from the Argus is they no absoutely nothing like us fans do, until the there is fact from the three guys upstairs who is coming in the Argus will print pointless headlines like above because Brighton won't tell them a thing and rightly so, Bloom told radio Sussex before the Argus about why Oscar left, Up the Albion !!!![/p][/quote]Hi Jeff, does the club have a problem with the Argus then? dave from bexill
  • Score: 0

11:36am Tue 20 May 14

andy103 says...

I'm sure whoever TB brings in will be greeted with joy by some and distain by others. Not that my opinion is worth much but I'd like to throw another name out there, Steve Clarke. A great coach who I believe did a really good job with a very average squad at WBA.
I'm sure whoever TB brings in will be greeted with joy by some and distain by others. Not that my opinion is worth much but I'd like to throw another name out there, Steve Clarke. A great coach who I believe did a really good job with a very average squad at WBA. andy103
  • Score: 6

12:11pm Tue 20 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

andy103 wrote:
I'm sure whoever TB brings in will be greeted with joy by some and distain by others. Not that my opinion is worth much but I'd like to throw another name out there, Steve Clarke. A great coach who I believe did a really good job with a very average squad at WBA.
I fully endorse this comment.

Steve Clarke was very shabbily treated by the other Albion and I'd be pleased as punch if we got him, although I expect he harbours ambitions to stay in the Premier League.
[quote][p][bold]andy103[/bold] wrote: I'm sure whoever TB brings in will be greeted with joy by some and distain by others. Not that my opinion is worth much but I'd like to throw another name out there, Steve Clarke. A great coach who I believe did a really good job with a very average squad at WBA.[/p][/quote]I fully endorse this comment. Steve Clarke was very shabbily treated by the other Albion and I'd be pleased as punch if we got him, although I expect he harbours ambitions to stay in the Premier League. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: -2

12:19pm Tue 20 May 14

SMF20 says...

TS would certainly be the man for me but failing that and some of the other names mentioned what about Gary Johnson from Yeovil with Upson and Calde as his assistants.

He did a great job at Yeovil this past season with the smallest budget and crowds in the division... The fact they were still not relegated with only 2 games left to play was an achievement in its self.

Good bloke, well respected in the game, won't cause issues and I'm sure would be a good role model for the club... I think he would do a pretty good job in bringing on Upson and Calde too.

Whatever the outcome, I'm sure TB will do us proud.

Uta
TS would certainly be the man for me but failing that and some of the other names mentioned what about Gary Johnson from Yeovil with Upson and Calde as his assistants. He did a great job at Yeovil this past season with the smallest budget and crowds in the division... The fact they were still not relegated with only 2 games left to play was an achievement in its self. Good bloke, well respected in the game, won't cause issues and I'm sure would be a good role model for the club... I think he would do a pretty good job in bringing on Upson and Calde too. Whatever the outcome, I'm sure TB will do us proud. Uta SMF20
  • Score: -1

12:20pm Tue 20 May 14

Conelli98 says...

I would take Steve Clarke!
I would take Steve Clarke! Conelli98
  • Score: 6

12:40pm Tue 20 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

I am not sure how the book-makers can offer odds for this or that guy to get the job at Brighton, there are too many factors to take into consideration, some known and some not.

Is the reason for Sherwood to be the favorite for the role simply down to the bookies thinking that zero prem clubs might want him? Perhaps they think that his managerial style is best suited to our club, his style being better than anyone else who might want the job. Or is it that he likes his team to play possesion football in the way that we have under our last two managers. Maybe they think that Sherwood, above all other applicants, would have a good working relationship with Bloom, Burke and Barber.

What ever the thinking of the book-makers is, I think they could all have it wrong, Bloom, so far, has shown no perpencity to do the obvious, an appointment such as Gary Neville, or similar, could be the outcome, I wonder if Calderon has applied for the post. What odds do you think the bookies would offer on our new manager not being on anyone's radar, anyone other than Bloom.
I am not sure how the book-makers can offer odds for this or that guy to get the job at Brighton, there are too many factors to take into consideration, some known and some not. Is the reason for Sherwood to be the favorite for the role simply down to the bookies thinking that zero prem clubs might want him? Perhaps they think that his managerial style is best suited to our club, his style being better than anyone else who might want the job. Or is it that he likes his team to play possesion football in the way that we have under our last two managers. Maybe they think that Sherwood, above all other applicants, would have a good working relationship with Bloom, Burke and Barber. What ever the thinking of the book-makers is, I think they could all have it wrong, Bloom, so far, has shown no perpencity to do the obvious, an appointment such as Gary Neville, or similar, could be the outcome, I wonder if Calderon has applied for the post. What odds do you think the bookies would offer on our new manager not being on anyone's radar, anyone other than Bloom. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

12:41pm Tue 20 May 14

JeffLomer says...

dave from bexill wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
Shall we all be patient and wait and see who we bring in to be our next manager, everyone speculating who or it won't be gets a bit boring, we might be interested in Clement but I would bet he has no desire to leave Madrid to come to us and why would he, Sherwood probably not even applied for the job he might be open to offers yes more like a team in the premiership rather than championship, all were getting from the Argus is they no absoutely nothing like us fans do, until the there is fact from the three guys upstairs who is coming in the Argus will print pointless headlines like above because Brighton won't tell them a thing and rightly so, Bloom told radio Sussex before the Argus about why Oscar left,
Up the Albion !!!!
Hi Jeff, does the club have a problem with the Argus then?
Hi Dave,

The answer to your question is I don't no if the club have a problem with the Argus, but I'm pretty sure when appointing a new manager the club wants to keep names off potential candidates private, why would Bloom and co want to reveal anything to the media before they actually announce the right guy who is coming in and rightly so in my opinion,

It's only the bookies who make Sherwood favourites the guy was still employed at spurs at the time, I think all the talk about Sherwood or Clement is way off the mark in my opinion, I think Sherwood would be looking at West Ham if Sam leaves, and I think the Argus tried to make a story out off Clement can you honestly see him leaving Madrid to come to Brighton Dave I can't to be honest, he's a number two at one off the biggest teams in the world!!
I'm not bothered how long it takes as long as we get the right guy in, me personally Steve Clarke or Sherwood!!
Up the Albion!!!!
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Shall we all be patient and wait and see who we bring in to be our next manager, everyone speculating who or it won't be gets a bit boring, we might be interested in Clement but I would bet he has no desire to leave Madrid to come to us and why would he, Sherwood probably not even applied for the job he might be open to offers yes more like a team in the premiership rather than championship, all were getting from the Argus is they no absoutely nothing like us fans do, until the there is fact from the three guys upstairs who is coming in the Argus will print pointless headlines like above because Brighton won't tell them a thing and rightly so, Bloom told radio Sussex before the Argus about why Oscar left, Up the Albion !!!![/p][/quote]Hi Jeff, does the club have a problem with the Argus then?[/p][/quote]Hi Dave, The answer to your question is I don't no if the club have a problem with the Argus, but I'm pretty sure when appointing a new manager the club wants to keep names off potential candidates private, why would Bloom and co want to reveal anything to the media before they actually announce the right guy who is coming in and rightly so in my opinion, It's only the bookies who make Sherwood favourites the guy was still employed at spurs at the time, I think all the talk about Sherwood or Clement is way off the mark in my opinion, I think Sherwood would be looking at West Ham if Sam leaves, and I think the Argus tried to make a story out off Clement can you honestly see him leaving Madrid to come to Brighton Dave I can't to be honest, he's a number two at one off the biggest teams in the world!! I'm not bothered how long it takes as long as we get the right guy in, me personally Steve Clarke or Sherwood!! Up the Albion!!!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 2

12:44pm Tue 20 May 14

Claude Back says...

Tommy11 wrote:
Anthony 14 wrote:
I don't understand all the negative comments about Chris Hughton. His record in the Championship is excellent, he took Newcastle up as Champions after they hit an all time low and then took Birmingham to 4th with an average squad. He obviously knows the division well and knows what it takes to get teams promoted. I think its harsh to judge Hughton on the season just gone. It wasn't his best but he took Norwich to 11th the season before, which was a great achievement. They were never really going to improve on that were they? I think Hughton would be an astute appointment, so some of the comments on here baffle me. Peter Ward as manager! Surely that just a terrible joke??
Totally agree Anthony – I cannot understand why people think that Hughton is a bad choice. He has an excellent record in the championship – look at Birmingham now without him??? Hughton is calm, collective, good talker, knows the division and players – He will do a great job for us.

People really make me laugh when they say ‘ He was sacked at Norwich and took them down’. Norwich will always be a club near the bottom of the division – what do they expect? He took them to 11th last season which was an incredible achievement.

Just because a manager has been sacked does not mean they are a bad manager – some people really need to grow up! Look at Mclaren – he has been sacked numerous times and he wiped the floor with us this season!!

Albion Fans – take a reality check – were not going to get people like Michael Laudraup!
Yes, you are correct.
If the striker in which Norwich invested all their main budget had not been injured and totally lost his form, it would have been a different story for sure.
[quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Anthony 14[/bold] wrote: I don't understand all the negative comments about Chris Hughton. His record in the Championship is excellent, he took Newcastle up as Champions after they hit an all time low and then took Birmingham to 4th with an average squad. He obviously knows the division well and knows what it takes to get teams promoted. I think its harsh to judge Hughton on the season just gone. It wasn't his best but he took Norwich to 11th the season before, which was a great achievement. They were never really going to improve on that were they? I think Hughton would be an astute appointment, so some of the comments on here baffle me. Peter Ward as manager! Surely that just a terrible joke??[/p][/quote]Totally agree Anthony – I cannot understand why people think that Hughton is a bad choice. He has an excellent record in the championship – look at Birmingham now without him??? Hughton is calm, collective, good talker, knows the division and players – He will do a great job for us. People really make me laugh when they say ‘ He was sacked at Norwich and took them down’. Norwich will always be a club near the bottom of the division – what do they expect? He took them to 11th last season which was an incredible achievement. Just because a manager has been sacked does not mean they are a bad manager – some people really need to grow up! Look at Mclaren – he has been sacked numerous times and he wiped the floor with us this season!! Albion Fans – take a reality check – were not going to get people like Michael Laudraup![/p][/quote]Yes, you are correct. If the striker in which Norwich invested all their main budget had not been injured and totally lost his form, it would have been a different story for sure. Claude Back
  • Score: -1

12:54pm Tue 20 May 14

rolivan says...

I see Southampton have sacked Dodd and Williams who have been responsible for bringing their current crop of youngsters through, they could come here and move straight into a brand new Complex.
I see Southampton have sacked Dodd and Williams who have been responsible for bringing their current crop of youngsters through, they could come here and move straight into a brand new Complex. rolivan
  • Score: 5

1:10pm Tue 20 May 14

gordongull says...

rolivan wrote:
I see Southampton have sacked Dodd and Williams who have been responsible for bringing their current crop of youngsters through, they could come here and move straight into a brand new Complex.
What do Dodd and Williams know about Spanish football?
[quote][p][bold]rolivan[/bold] wrote: I see Southampton have sacked Dodd and Williams who have been responsible for bringing their current crop of youngsters through, they could come here and move straight into a brand new Complex.[/p][/quote]What do Dodd and Williams know about Spanish football? gordongull
  • Score: 0

1:23pm Tue 20 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

If a potential manager states that he has not been contacted by, or spoken with the club, could that mean that he has not applied for the job? Is it possible that a few of these, 'names,' are sitting back waiting for the club to make the first move, if so, then I say don't bother calling them. If they want the job they should chase after it. If Sherwood has not spoken to the club I can only assume that he has not called Bloom as I am sure that Bloom would take the call were it to come.
If a potential manager states that he has not been contacted by, or spoken with the club, could that mean that he has not applied for the job? Is it possible that a few of these, 'names,' are sitting back waiting for the club to make the first move, if so, then I say don't bother calling them. If they want the job they should chase after it. If Sherwood has not spoken to the club I can only assume that he has not called Bloom as I am sure that Bloom would take the call were it to come. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -1

1:25pm Tue 20 May 14

rolivan says...

gordongull wrote:
rolivan wrote:
I see Southampton have sacked Dodd and Williams who have been responsible for bringing their current crop of youngsters through, they could come here and move straight into a brand new Complex.
What do Dodd and Williams know about Spanish football?
The last time I looked we weren't playing in the Spanish League . We are playing in and trying to gain Promotion from the Championship so we need to find the way to beat teams.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rolivan[/bold] wrote: I see Southampton have sacked Dodd and Williams who have been responsible for bringing their current crop of youngsters through, they could come here and move straight into a brand new Complex.[/p][/quote]What do Dodd and Williams know about Spanish football?[/p][/quote]The last time I looked we weren't playing in the Spanish League . We are playing in and trying to gain Promotion from the Championship so we need to find the way to beat teams. rolivan
  • Score: 1

1:29pm Tue 20 May 14

gordongull says...

rolivan wrote:
gordongull wrote:
rolivan wrote:
I see Southampton have sacked Dodd and Williams who have been responsible for bringing their current crop of youngsters through, they could come here and move straight into a brand new Complex.
What do Dodd and Williams know about Spanish football?
The last time I looked we weren't playing in the Spanish League . We are playing in and trying to gain Promotion from the Championship so we need to find the way to beat teams.
Couldn't agree more, Rolivan.
[quote][p][bold]rolivan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rolivan[/bold] wrote: I see Southampton have sacked Dodd and Williams who have been responsible for bringing their current crop of youngsters through, they could come here and move straight into a brand new Complex.[/p][/quote]What do Dodd and Williams know about Spanish football?[/p][/quote]The last time I looked we weren't playing in the Spanish League . We are playing in and trying to gain Promotion from the Championship so we need to find the way to beat teams.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more, Rolivan. gordongull
  • Score: 2

1:33pm Tue 20 May 14

Max Ripple says...

Nosfaratu wrote:
O dear, fancy sacking your manager and then finding no-one wants the job.
I wonder why?

On another note, please go to Change.org and petition the US CoastGuard to resume the search for the British crew of the Cheeki Rafiki, a sailing yacht from Southampton. These Guys have Families and should not just forgotten.
Its Free to sign.
Er, Oscar wasn't sacked. He resigned and left.
[quote][p][bold]Nosfaratu[/bold] wrote: O dear, fancy sacking your manager and then finding no-one wants the job. I wonder why? On another note, please go to Change.org and petition the US CoastGuard to resume the search for the British crew of the Cheeki Rafiki, a sailing yacht from Southampton. These Guys have Families and should not just forgotten. Its Free to sign.[/p][/quote]Er, Oscar wasn't sacked. He resigned and left. Max Ripple
  • Score: 4

1:53pm Tue 20 May 14

gordongull says...

There was much talk some time ago, about the Club using the same playing system from youth level right through to the 1st team, as at Barcelona, for example. The idea being that players could progress to the 1st team, and fit in knowing exactly what was expected of them.
Does that mean that any potential manager with a different playing philosophy than that in operation with the academy and under-21s will not be considered?
We will soon know which is more important to the Club, promotion or continuity.
There was much talk some time ago, about the Club using the same playing system from youth level right through to the 1st team, as at Barcelona, for example. The idea being that players could progress to the 1st team, and fit in knowing exactly what was expected of them. Does that mean that any potential manager with a different playing philosophy than that in operation with the academy and under-21s will not be considered? We will soon know which is more important to the Club, promotion or continuity. gordongull
  • Score: 2

2:02pm Tue 20 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

gordongull wrote:
There was much talk some time ago, about the Club using the same playing system from youth level right through to the 1st team, as at Barcelona, for example. The idea being that players could progress to the 1st team, and fit in knowing exactly what was expected of them.
Does that mean that any potential manager with a different playing philosophy than that in operation with the academy and under-21s will not be considered?
We will soon know which is more important to the Club, promotion or continuity.
It might be said that we have, 'continuity,' as we have been using our current style under two managers and made the play-offs two years on the bounce.
Might it be that what we need are better players to impliment the style, and for a tweak here and there, to the style, to add a little more bite.
I can't see Bloom hiring a manager that is going to undo what has already achieved, my hope is that he finds the right man to improve what we do and have done.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: There was much talk some time ago, about the Club using the same playing system from youth level right through to the 1st team, as at Barcelona, for example. The idea being that players could progress to the 1st team, and fit in knowing exactly what was expected of them. Does that mean that any potential manager with a different playing philosophy than that in operation with the academy and under-21s will not be considered? We will soon know which is more important to the Club, promotion or continuity.[/p][/quote]It might be said that we have, 'continuity,' as we have been using our current style under two managers and made the play-offs two years on the bounce. Might it be that what we need are better players to impliment the style, and for a tweak here and there, to the style, to add a little more bite. I can't see Bloom hiring a manager that is going to undo what has already achieved, my hope is that he finds the right man to improve what we do and have done. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

2:02pm Tue 20 May 14

Sussex J says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
I am not sure how the book-makers can offer odds for this or that guy to get the job at Brighton, there are too many factors to take into consideration, some known and some not. Is the reason for Sherwood to be the favorite for the role simply down to the bookies thinking that zero prem clubs might want him? Perhaps they think that his managerial style is best suited to our club, his style being better than anyone else who might want the job. Or is it that he likes his team to play possesion football in the way that we have under our last two managers. Maybe they think that Sherwood, above all other applicants, would have a good working relationship with Bloom, Burke and Barber. What ever the thinking of the book-makers is, I think they could all have it wrong, Bloom, so far, has shown no perpencity to do the obvious, an appointment such as Gary Neville, or similar, could be the outcome, I wonder if Calderon has applied for the post. What odds do you think the bookies would offer on our new manager not being on anyone's radar, anyone other than Bloom.
I have just looked at the betting and there are 113 managers listed in the betting lists I have seen with the longest price being 66/1

Looking at some of those mentioned on this thread:

Steve Clarke is 33/1
Brian McDermott is 66/1 with Bet Victor but 25/1 with Coral
Gary Neville is 33/1
Inigo Calderon is 66/1
Tim Sherwood 10/11
Paul Clement 7/1 but 4/1 with others
Chris Hughton 7/1 (5/1 with Coral)
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I am not sure how the book-makers can offer odds for this or that guy to get the job at Brighton, there are too many factors to take into consideration, some known and some not. Is the reason for Sherwood to be the favorite for the role simply down to the bookies thinking that zero prem clubs might want him? Perhaps they think that his managerial style is best suited to our club, his style being better than anyone else who might want the job. Or is it that he likes his team to play possesion football in the way that we have under our last two managers. Maybe they think that Sherwood, above all other applicants, would have a good working relationship with Bloom, Burke and Barber. What ever the thinking of the book-makers is, I think they could all have it wrong, Bloom, so far, has shown no perpencity to do the obvious, an appointment such as Gary Neville, or similar, could be the outcome, I wonder if Calderon has applied for the post. What odds do you think the bookies would offer on our new manager not being on anyone's radar, anyone other than Bloom.[/p][/quote]I have just looked at the betting and there are 113 managers listed in the betting lists I have seen with the longest price being 66/1 Looking at some of those mentioned on this thread: Steve Clarke is 33/1 Brian McDermott is 66/1 with Bet Victor but 25/1 with Coral Gary Neville is 33/1 Inigo Calderon is 66/1 Tim Sherwood 10/11 Paul Clement 7/1 but 4/1 with others Chris Hughton 7/1 (5/1 with Coral) Sussex J
  • Score: 0

2:08pm Tue 20 May 14

SMF20 says...

Is Toko Nzuzi about to be announced a BHAFC player? It's all over NSC
Is Toko Nzuzi about to be announced a BHAFC player? It's all over NSC SMF20
  • Score: 3

2:13pm Tue 20 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

Sussex J wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
I am not sure how the book-makers can offer odds for this or that guy to get the job at Brighton, there are too many factors to take into consideration, some known and some not. Is the reason for Sherwood to be the favorite for the role simply down to the bookies thinking that zero prem clubs might want him? Perhaps they think that his managerial style is best suited to our club, his style being better than anyone else who might want the job. Or is it that he likes his team to play possesion football in the way that we have under our last two managers. Maybe they think that Sherwood, above all other applicants, would have a good working relationship with Bloom, Burke and Barber. What ever the thinking of the book-makers is, I think they could all have it wrong, Bloom, so far, has shown no perpencity to do the obvious, an appointment such as Gary Neville, or similar, could be the outcome, I wonder if Calderon has applied for the post. What odds do you think the bookies would offer on our new manager not being on anyone's radar, anyone other than Bloom.
I have just looked at the betting and there are 113 managers listed in the betting lists I have seen with the longest price being 66/1

Looking at some of those mentioned on this thread:

Steve Clarke is 33/1
Brian McDermott is 66/1 with Bet Victor but 25/1 with Coral
Gary Neville is 33/1
Inigo Calderon is 66/1
Tim Sherwood 10/11
Paul Clement 7/1 but 4/1 with others
Chris Hughton 7/1 (5/1 with Coral)
Thanks for the numbers Sussex J.
113 listed, I wonder how many have applied for the job.
Out of that 113, I wonder, how many are out of work and will take just about any job they could get.
Of the more talented applicants contained within the 113, how many of them would leave us and take a prem club offer this time next year, if we have another decent season, much as the last two seasons have been. How many of the better ones would want a, release clause, written into their contract just in case a prem club came calling, all that do should instantly be removed from Blooms list of possibles, IMHO.
[quote][p][bold]Sussex J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I am not sure how the book-makers can offer odds for this or that guy to get the job at Brighton, there are too many factors to take into consideration, some known and some not. Is the reason for Sherwood to be the favorite for the role simply down to the bookies thinking that zero prem clubs might want him? Perhaps they think that his managerial style is best suited to our club, his style being better than anyone else who might want the job. Or is it that he likes his team to play possesion football in the way that we have under our last two managers. Maybe they think that Sherwood, above all other applicants, would have a good working relationship with Bloom, Burke and Barber. What ever the thinking of the book-makers is, I think they could all have it wrong, Bloom, so far, has shown no perpencity to do the obvious, an appointment such as Gary Neville, or similar, could be the outcome, I wonder if Calderon has applied for the post. What odds do you think the bookies would offer on our new manager not being on anyone's radar, anyone other than Bloom.[/p][/quote]I have just looked at the betting and there are 113 managers listed in the betting lists I have seen with the longest price being 66/1 Looking at some of those mentioned on this thread: Steve Clarke is 33/1 Brian McDermott is 66/1 with Bet Victor but 25/1 with Coral Gary Neville is 33/1 Inigo Calderon is 66/1 Tim Sherwood 10/11 Paul Clement 7/1 but 4/1 with others Chris Hughton 7/1 (5/1 with Coral)[/p][/quote]Thanks for the numbers Sussex J. 113 listed, I wonder how many have applied for the job. Out of that 113, I wonder, how many are out of work and will take just about any job they could get. Of the more talented applicants contained within the 113, how many of them would leave us and take a prem club offer this time next year, if we have another decent season, much as the last two seasons have been. How many of the better ones would want a, release clause, written into their contract just in case a prem club came calling, all that do should instantly be removed from Blooms list of possibles, IMHO. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

2:29pm Tue 20 May 14

ballantrrae says...

Sussex J wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
I am not sure how the book-makers can offer odds for this or that guy to get the job at Brighton, there are too many factors to take into consideration, some known and some not. Is the reason for Sherwood to be the favorite for the role simply down to the bookies thinking that zero prem clubs might want him? Perhaps they think that his managerial style is best suited to our club, his style being better than anyone else who might want the job. Or is it that he likes his team to play possesion football in the way that we have under our last two managers. Maybe they think that Sherwood, above all other applicants, would have a good working relationship with Bloom, Burke and Barber. What ever the thinking of the book-makers is, I think they could all have it wrong, Bloom, so far, has shown no perpencity to do the obvious, an appointment such as Gary Neville, or similar, could be the outcome, I wonder if Calderon has applied for the post. What odds do you think the bookies would offer on our new manager not being on anyone's radar, anyone other than Bloom.
I have just looked at the betting and there are 113 managers listed in the betting lists I have seen with the longest price being 66/1

Looking at some of those mentioned on this thread:

Steve Clarke is 33/1
Brian McDermott is 66/1 with Bet Victor but 25/1 with Coral
Gary Neville is 33/1
Inigo Calderon is 66/1
Tim Sherwood 10/11
Paul Clement 7/1 but 4/1 with others
Chris Hughton 7/1 (5/1 with Coral)
I see that Hyypia (ex-Liverpool) is mentioned on the newsnowbrighton website as being a potential candidate for the Manager's position.
He was Managing Bayer Leverkusen until recently and had a win ratio over 50%. Knows English football after his time at Liverpool and language not a problem.
Wouldn't be surprised if TB appointed somebody not even mentioned yet but hope that if it is a relatively unproven young Manager that he has an experienced No 2. Presumably bearing in mind Barber's mantra of being PLR whoever is appointed will have the right credentials to manage us in the Premier League when we get there !
[quote][p][bold]Sussex J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I am not sure how the book-makers can offer odds for this or that guy to get the job at Brighton, there are too many factors to take into consideration, some known and some not. Is the reason for Sherwood to be the favorite for the role simply down to the bookies thinking that zero prem clubs might want him? Perhaps they think that his managerial style is best suited to our club, his style being better than anyone else who might want the job. Or is it that he likes his team to play possesion football in the way that we have under our last two managers. Maybe they think that Sherwood, above all other applicants, would have a good working relationship with Bloom, Burke and Barber. What ever the thinking of the book-makers is, I think they could all have it wrong, Bloom, so far, has shown no perpencity to do the obvious, an appointment such as Gary Neville, or similar, could be the outcome, I wonder if Calderon has applied for the post. What odds do you think the bookies would offer on our new manager not being on anyone's radar, anyone other than Bloom.[/p][/quote]I have just looked at the betting and there are 113 managers listed in the betting lists I have seen with the longest price being 66/1 Looking at some of those mentioned on this thread: Steve Clarke is 33/1 Brian McDermott is 66/1 with Bet Victor but 25/1 with Coral Gary Neville is 33/1 Inigo Calderon is 66/1 Tim Sherwood 10/11 Paul Clement 7/1 but 4/1 with others Chris Hughton 7/1 (5/1 with Coral)[/p][/quote]I see that Hyypia (ex-Liverpool) is mentioned on the newsnowbrighton website as being a potential candidate for the Manager's position. He was Managing Bayer Leverkusen until recently and had a win ratio over 50%. Knows English football after his time at Liverpool and language not a problem. Wouldn't be surprised if TB appointed somebody not even mentioned yet but hope that if it is a relatively unproven young Manager that he has an experienced No 2. Presumably bearing in mind Barber's mantra of being PLR whoever is appointed will have the right credentials to manage us in the Premier League when we get there ! ballantrrae
  • Score: 4

2:31pm Tue 20 May 14

gordongull says...

A quiet word in the ear of the 'Leave it to Mr Bloom' brigade. We get the same misguided comments during the season: ''Leave the team selection to Oscar, in Oscar we trust''.
The whole idea of the forum is that contributors can express opinions and exchange views about a particular topic.
Anyone not wishing to get involved in the debate about who should be our next Manager, (or which players he should select for 1st team duty after he is appointed) does not have to offer an opinion.
But they should realize that their attempts to repress the views of everyone else, are out of order.
A quiet word in the ear of the 'Leave it to Mr Bloom' brigade. We get the same misguided comments during the season: ''Leave the team selection to Oscar, in Oscar we trust''. The whole idea of the forum is that contributors can express opinions and exchange views about a particular topic. Anyone not wishing to get involved in the debate about who should be our next Manager, (or which players he should select for 1st team duty after he is appointed) does not have to offer an opinion. But they should realize that their attempts to repress the views of everyone else, are out of order. gordongull
  • Score: 4

2:44pm Tue 20 May 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Not being a betting man, please correct me, but I thought the odds bookies offered reflected how the punters were betting. Therefore the reason the bookies are offering TS as favourite is because the most money is going on his nose ( if he was a horse, that is). UTA
Not being a betting man, please correct me, but I thought the odds bookies offered reflected how the punters were betting. Therefore the reason the bookies are offering TS as favourite is because the most money is going on his nose ( if he was a horse, that is). UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 6

2:49pm Tue 20 May 14

gordongull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
gordongull wrote:
There was much talk some time ago, about the Club using the same playing system from youth level right through to the 1st team, as at Barcelona, for example. The idea being that players could progress to the 1st team, and fit in knowing exactly what was expected of them.
Does that mean that any potential manager with a different playing philosophy than that in operation with the academy and under-21s will not be considered?
We will soon know which is more important to the Club, promotion or continuity.
It might be said that we have, 'continuity,' as we have been using our current style under two managers and made the play-offs two years on the bounce.
Might it be that what we need are better players to impliment the style, and for a tweak here and there, to the style, to add a little more bite.
I can't see Bloom hiring a manager that is going to undo what has already achieved, my hope is that he finds the right man to improve what we do and have done.
But no-one has ever gets promoted using our current style, Vegas. Indications are that we are not going to get better players to implement the style, so a change of direction could be vital if we are to achieve any success. The appointment of a Manager who will follow the blueprint that is already in place at B&HA, would suggest to me that promotion in the foreseeable future is not a priority.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: There was much talk some time ago, about the Club using the same playing system from youth level right through to the 1st team, as at Barcelona, for example. The idea being that players could progress to the 1st team, and fit in knowing exactly what was expected of them. Does that mean that any potential manager with a different playing philosophy than that in operation with the academy and under-21s will not be considered? We will soon know which is more important to the Club, promotion or continuity.[/p][/quote]It might be said that we have, 'continuity,' as we have been using our current style under two managers and made the play-offs two years on the bounce. Might it be that what we need are better players to impliment the style, and for a tweak here and there, to the style, to add a little more bite. I can't see Bloom hiring a manager that is going to undo what has already achieved, my hope is that he finds the right man to improve what we do and have done.[/p][/quote]But no-one has ever gets promoted using our current style, Vegas. Indications are that we are not going to get better players to implement the style, so a change of direction could be vital if we are to achieve any success. The appointment of a Manager who will follow the blueprint that is already in place at B&HA, would suggest to me that promotion in the foreseeable future is not a priority. gordongull
  • Score: -2

2:59pm Tue 20 May 14

gordongull says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
Not being a betting man, please correct me, but I thought the odds bookies offered reflected how the punters were betting. Therefore the reason the bookies are offering TS as favourite is because the most money is going on his nose ( if he was a horse, that is). UTA
My view, Joel'sGrandad, is that Bookies will offer whatever odds they think will get them the highest return.
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: Not being a betting man, please correct me, but I thought the odds bookies offered reflected how the punters were betting. Therefore the reason the bookies are offering TS as favourite is because the most money is going on his nose ( if he was a horse, that is). UTA[/p][/quote]My view, Joel'sGrandad, is that Bookies will offer whatever odds they think will get them the highest return. gordongull
  • Score: 0

3:00pm Tue 20 May 14

nellyboo1 says...

Anyone saying Tim Sherwood would leave after being offered a premier job are wrong. While at spurs he didnt leave when told he was going to lose his job.
Why not have faith in him? After all even if he did become another Poyet, was poyet actually that bad? Got us to a top championship club in 2-3 seasons and the only time he let us down was the palace in the play offs.
At the end of the day id rather give Sherwood a chance like you all gave Oscar a chance when you didnt know him.
He could be a guy to inject great use of our youngsters and our team. After all he brought out the best in Adbeyor. After all who better to get our strikers scoring better then a guy who can get Adbeyor getting goals when AVB couldnt get his team getting goals...
Anyone saying Tim Sherwood would leave after being offered a premier job are wrong. While at spurs he didnt leave when told he was going to lose his job. Why not have faith in him? After all even if he did become another Poyet, was poyet actually that bad? Got us to a top championship club in 2-3 seasons and the only time he let us down was the palace in the play offs. At the end of the day id rather give Sherwood a chance like you all gave Oscar a chance when you didnt know him. He could be a guy to inject great use of our youngsters and our team. After all he brought out the best in Adbeyor. After all who better to get our strikers scoring better then a guy who can get Adbeyor getting goals when AVB couldnt get his team getting goals... nellyboo1
  • Score: 1

3:21pm Tue 20 May 14

East of CrawleyDown says...

Chris Hughton is a very capable championship manager who could get us promoted with a modest transfer fund, maybe a couple of million which is not a lot in the championship these days, just look what he did at Norwich and Newcastle. Never mind Norwichs relegation, the players he signed just didn't deliver and he should never have been sacked at Newcastle. As things stand no one seems to be beating the door down to come to Albion, if he's keen then get him in, we could do far worse! He does know how to win promotion without a doubt, so all those who say no should consider this first. Things do need to be done quickly though or we will be kicking off next season underprepared again, there should be no reason for delay.
Chris Hughton is a very capable championship manager who could get us promoted with a modest transfer fund, maybe a couple of million which is not a lot in the championship these days, just look what he did at Norwich and Newcastle. Never mind Norwichs relegation, the players he signed just didn't deliver and he should never have been sacked at Newcastle. As things stand no one seems to be beating the door down to come to Albion, if he's keen then get him in, we could do far worse! He does know how to win promotion without a doubt, so all those who say no should consider this first. Things do need to be done quickly though or we will be kicking off next season underprepared again, there should be no reason for delay. East of CrawleyDown
  • Score: 1

3:23pm Tue 20 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
gordongull wrote:
There was much talk some time ago, about the Club using the same playing system from youth level right through to the 1st team, as at Barcelona, for example. The idea being that players could progress to the 1st team, and fit in knowing exactly what was expected of them.
Does that mean that any potential manager with a different playing philosophy than that in operation with the academy and under-21s will not be considered?
We will soon know which is more important to the Club, promotion or continuity.
It might be said that we have, 'continuity,' as we have been using our current style under two managers and made the play-offs two years on the bounce.
Might it be that what we need are better players to impliment the style, and for a tweak here and there, to the style, to add a little more bite.
I can't see Bloom hiring a manager that is going to undo what has already achieved, my hope is that he finds the right man to improve what we do and have done.
But no-one has ever gets promoted using our current style, Vegas. Indications are that we are not going to get better players to implement the style, so a change of direction could be vital if we are to achieve any success. The appointment of a Manager who will follow the blueprint that is already in place at B&HA, would suggest to me that promotion in the foreseeable future is not a priority.
Genuine question - what style did Swansea play when they got promoted? I know they play a nice passing game now but did they use that to get out of the division in the first place?
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: There was much talk some time ago, about the Club using the same playing system from youth level right through to the 1st team, as at Barcelona, for example. The idea being that players could progress to the 1st team, and fit in knowing exactly what was expected of them. Does that mean that any potential manager with a different playing philosophy than that in operation with the academy and under-21s will not be considered? We will soon know which is more important to the Club, promotion or continuity.[/p][/quote]It might be said that we have, 'continuity,' as we have been using our current style under two managers and made the play-offs two years on the bounce. Might it be that what we need are better players to impliment the style, and for a tweak here and there, to the style, to add a little more bite. I can't see Bloom hiring a manager that is going to undo what has already achieved, my hope is that he finds the right man to improve what we do and have done.[/p][/quote]But no-one has ever gets promoted using our current style, Vegas. Indications are that we are not going to get better players to implement the style, so a change of direction could be vital if we are to achieve any success. The appointment of a Manager who will follow the blueprint that is already in place at B&HA, would suggest to me that promotion in the foreseeable future is not a priority.[/p][/quote]Genuine question - what style did Swansea play when they got promoted? I know they play a nice passing game now but did they use that to get out of the division in the first place? Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 0

3:30pm Tue 20 May 14

pte says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
If a potential manager states that he has not been contacted by, or spoken with the club, could that mean that he has not applied for the job? Is it possible that a few of these, 'names,' are sitting back waiting for the club to make the first move, if so, then I say don't bother calling them. If they want the job they should chase after it. If Sherwood has not spoken to the club I can only assume that he has not called Bloom as I am sure that Bloom would take the call were it to come.
Managers have to behave professionally. If you want a solicitor, accountant, doctor, dentist etc you choose one you fancy. You don't expect them to chase after you. And you don't put and advert in the Friday ad asking for applicants.

Everything is decided on reputation, appearance and the quality of the suit you wear. I would bet OG didn't fill out a CV or even have a formal job interview with Bloom. Even if they had the language barrier would prevent any rapport being established.

These people are head hunted.

I remember Clough and Taylor- they didn't chase after Bamber and a job in the third tier! Bamber chased after them. When Mullery was appointed, Bamber just phoned him up and asked him if he wanted the job and Mullery said: "yeah alright"

The higher up you go and normal rules no longer apply, everything is in reverse.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: If a potential manager states that he has not been contacted by, or spoken with the club, could that mean that he has not applied for the job? Is it possible that a few of these, 'names,' are sitting back waiting for the club to make the first move, if so, then I say don't bother calling them. If they want the job they should chase after it. If Sherwood has not spoken to the club I can only assume that he has not called Bloom as I am sure that Bloom would take the call were it to come.[/p][/quote]Managers have to behave professionally. If you want a solicitor, accountant, doctor, dentist etc you choose one you fancy. You don't expect them to chase after you. And you don't put and advert in the Friday ad asking for applicants. Everything is decided on reputation, appearance and the quality of the suit you wear. I would bet OG didn't fill out a CV or even have a formal job interview with Bloom. Even if they had the language barrier would prevent any rapport being established. These people are head hunted. I remember Clough and Taylor- they didn't chase after Bamber and a job in the third tier! Bamber chased after them. When Mullery was appointed, Bamber just phoned him up and asked him if he wanted the job and Mullery said: "yeah alright" The higher up you go and normal rules no longer apply, everything is in reverse. pte
  • Score: 0

3:31pm Tue 20 May 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

gordongull wrote:
A quiet word in the ear of the 'Leave it to Mr Bloom' brigade. We get the same misguided comments during the season: ''Leave the team selection to Oscar, in Oscar we trust''.
The whole idea of the forum is that contributors can express opinions and exchange views about a particular topic.
Anyone not wishing to get involved in the debate about who should be our next Manager, (or which players he should select for 1st team duty after he is appointed) does not have to offer an opinion.
But they should realize that their attempts to repress the views of everyone else, are out of order.
Agree totally. Anyone out there who does not feel that people should express an opinion on any subject to do with the Albion should get off this forum permanently. This is why the forum was designed in the first place!
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: A quiet word in the ear of the 'Leave it to Mr Bloom' brigade. We get the same misguided comments during the season: ''Leave the team selection to Oscar, in Oscar we trust''. The whole idea of the forum is that contributors can express opinions and exchange views about a particular topic. Anyone not wishing to get involved in the debate about who should be our next Manager, (or which players he should select for 1st team duty after he is appointed) does not have to offer an opinion. But they should realize that their attempts to repress the views of everyone else, are out of order.[/p][/quote]Agree totally. Anyone out there who does not feel that people should express an opinion on any subject to do with the Albion should get off this forum permanently. This is why the forum was designed in the first place! SeagullOverSelsey
  • Score: 4

3:38pm Tue 20 May 14

pte says...

Since Burke and Barber are ex Spurs, TS is the logical choice. They know each other, or is that the problem?
Since Burke and Barber are ex Spurs, TS is the logical choice. They know each other, or is that the problem? pte
  • Score: 0

3:39pm Tue 20 May 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

gordongull wrote:
Joel'sGrandad wrote:
Not being a betting man, please correct me, but I thought the odds bookies offered reflected how the punters were betting. Therefore the reason the bookies are offering TS as favourite is because the most money is going on his nose ( if he was a horse, that is). UTA
My view, Joel'sGrandad, is that Bookies will offer whatever odds they think will get them the highest return.
Exactly what I'm saying.
The more money going on TS the worse the odds become and the less the bookies pay out. I think in a roundabout way we're both right. UTA
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: Not being a betting man, please correct me, but I thought the odds bookies offered reflected how the punters were betting. Therefore the reason the bookies are offering TS as favourite is because the most money is going on his nose ( if he was a horse, that is). UTA[/p][/quote]My view, Joel'sGrandad, is that Bookies will offer whatever odds they think will get them the highest return.[/p][/quote]Exactly what I'm saying. The more money going on TS the worse the odds become and the less the bookies pay out. I think in a roundabout way we're both right. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 1

3:58pm Tue 20 May 14

gordongull says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
gordongull wrote:
There was much talk some time ago, about the Club using the same playing system from youth level right through to the 1st team, as at Barcelona, for example. The idea being that players could progress to the 1st team, and fit in knowing exactly what was expected of them.
Does that mean that any potential manager with a different playing philosophy than that in operation with the academy and under-21s will not be considered?
We will soon know which is more important to the Club, promotion or continuity.
It might be said that we have, 'continuity,' as we have been using our current style under two managers and made the play-offs two years on the bounce.
Might it be that what we need are better players to impliment the style, and for a tweak here and there, to the style, to add a little more bite.
I can't see Bloom hiring a manager that is going to undo what has already achieved, my hope is that he finds the right man to improve what we do and have done.
But no-one has ever gets promoted using our current style, Vegas. Indications are that we are not going to get better players to implement the style, so a change of direction could be vital if we are to achieve any success. The appointment of a Manager who will follow the blueprint that is already in place at B&HA, would suggest to me that promotion in the foreseeable future is not a priority.
Genuine question - what style did Swansea play when they got promoted? I know they play a nice passing game now but did they use that to get out of the division in the first place?
I found this on '100 years of Swansea FC' site, EpA.
Brendan Rodgers too became a true Swans’ legend. The manager earned the credit on a national scale for the job he had done at Swansea, for not only taking the Swans to the Premier League but also the manner in which they played in order to achieve their goal. Their possession-based style was a true example of the ‘beautiful game’ and would undoubtedly become a credit to the top flight.
I don't recall Oscar's side being described as a true example of the beautiful game.
The Swansea example seems to be the exception to the rule.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: There was much talk some time ago, about the Club using the same playing system from youth level right through to the 1st team, as at Barcelona, for example. The idea being that players could progress to the 1st team, and fit in knowing exactly what was expected of them. Does that mean that any potential manager with a different playing philosophy than that in operation with the academy and under-21s will not be considered? We will soon know which is more important to the Club, promotion or continuity.[/p][/quote]It might be said that we have, 'continuity,' as we have been using our current style under two managers and made the play-offs two years on the bounce. Might it be that what we need are better players to impliment the style, and for a tweak here and there, to the style, to add a little more bite. I can't see Bloom hiring a manager that is going to undo what has already achieved, my hope is that he finds the right man to improve what we do and have done.[/p][/quote]But no-one has ever gets promoted using our current style, Vegas. Indications are that we are not going to get better players to implement the style, so a change of direction could be vital if we are to achieve any success. The appointment of a Manager who will follow the blueprint that is already in place at B&HA, would suggest to me that promotion in the foreseeable future is not a priority.[/p][/quote]Genuine question - what style did Swansea play when they got promoted? I know they play a nice passing game now but did they use that to get out of the division in the first place?[/p][/quote]I found this on '100 years of Swansea FC' site, EpA. Brendan Rodgers too became a true Swans’ legend. The manager earned the credit on a national scale for the job he had done at Swansea, for not only taking the Swans to the Premier League but also the manner in which they played in order to achieve their goal. Their possession-based style was a true example of the ‘beautiful game’ and would undoubtedly become a credit to the top flight. I don't recall Oscar's side being described as a true example of the beautiful game. The Swansea example seems to be the exception to the rule. gordongull
  • Score: 1

4:03pm Tue 20 May 14

john newman says...

Perhaps a player manager, what about Ashley Cole?
Perhaps a player manager, what about Ashley Cole? john newman
  • Score: -7

4:14pm Tue 20 May 14

East of CrawleyDown says...

Here's one that sneaked up unnoticed, Paulo Di Canio has announced he's ready to get back into management as a better and stronger manager. Could he end up as Albion manager? There would certainly never be a dull moment! An interesting gamble that could pay off or backfire spectacularly!
Here's one that sneaked up unnoticed, Paulo Di Canio has announced he's ready to get back into management as a better and stronger manager. Could he end up as Albion manager? There would certainly never be a dull moment! An interesting gamble that could pay off or backfire spectacularly! East of CrawleyDown
  • Score: -12

4:27pm Tue 20 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
gordongull wrote:
There was much talk some time ago, about the Club using the same playing system from youth level right through to the 1st team, as at Barcelona, for example. The idea being that players could progress to the 1st team, and fit in knowing exactly what was expected of them.
Does that mean that any potential manager with a different playing philosophy than that in operation with the academy and under-21s will not be considered?
We will soon know which is more important to the Club, promotion or continuity.
It might be said that we have, 'continuity,' as we have been using our current style under two managers and made the play-offs two years on the bounce.
Might it be that what we need are better players to impliment the style, and for a tweak here and there, to the style, to add a little more bite.
I can't see Bloom hiring a manager that is going to undo what has already achieved, my hope is that he finds the right man to improve what we do and have done.
But no-one has ever gets promoted using our current style, Vegas. Indications are that we are not going to get better players to implement the style, so a change of direction could be vital if we are to achieve any success. The appointment of a Manager who will follow the blueprint that is already in place at B&HA, would suggest to me that promotion in the foreseeable future is not a priority.
but if you think we won't get better players for our style, will we not need better players for a different style?
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: There was much talk some time ago, about the Club using the same playing system from youth level right through to the 1st team, as at Barcelona, for example. The idea being that players could progress to the 1st team, and fit in knowing exactly what was expected of them. Does that mean that any potential manager with a different playing philosophy than that in operation with the academy and under-21s will not be considered? We will soon know which is more important to the Club, promotion or continuity.[/p][/quote]It might be said that we have, 'continuity,' as we have been using our current style under two managers and made the play-offs two years on the bounce. Might it be that what we need are better players to impliment the style, and for a tweak here and there, to the style, to add a little more bite. I can't see Bloom hiring a manager that is going to undo what has already achieved, my hope is that he finds the right man to improve what we do and have done.[/p][/quote]But no-one has ever gets promoted using our current style, Vegas. Indications are that we are not going to get better players to implement the style, so a change of direction could be vital if we are to achieve any success. The appointment of a Manager who will follow the blueprint that is already in place at B&HA, would suggest to me that promotion in the foreseeable future is not a priority.[/p][/quote]but if you think we won't get better players for our style, will we not need better players for a different style? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

4:31pm Tue 20 May 14

daughter-of-manag says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
gordongull wrote:
There was much talk some time ago, about the Club using the same playing system from youth level right through to the 1st team, as at Barcelona, for example. The idea being that players could progress to the 1st team, and fit in knowing exactly what was expected of them.
Does that mean that any potential manager with a different playing philosophy than that in operation with the academy and under-21s will not be considered?
We will soon know which is more important to the Club, promotion or continuity.
It might be said that we have, 'continuity,' as we have been using our current style under two managers and made the play-offs two years on the bounce.
Might it be that what we need are better players to impliment the style, and for a tweak here and there, to the style, to add a little more bite.
I can't see Bloom hiring a manager that is going to undo what has already achieved, my hope is that he finds the right man to improve what we do and have done.
But no-one has ever gets promoted using our current style, Vegas. Indications are that we are not going to get better players to implement the style, so a change of direction could be vital if we are to achieve any success. The appointment of a Manager who will follow the blueprint that is already in place at B&HA, would suggest to me that promotion in the foreseeable future is not a priority.
Genuine question - what style did Swansea play when they got promoted? I know they play a nice passing game now but did they use that to get out of the division in the first place?
I don't understand your point? Are you suggesting that we adopt a hoof-ball approach to gaining promotion? GP did a terrific job implementing an expansive passing style, but there are limitations bearing in mind the players' technical abilities. The right coach and a few new technically gifted players could see us promoted, having played an expansive 'Swansea' type of style. I feel nauseous at the thought of the Big Sam types of coaches being appointed, we have developed a certain playing style that has. Taken us to. Twnow its time to build upon that foundation and

I was thrilled to see a couple of our lads in the U21 England squad, and they (and RI) will only get better in the future.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: There was much talk some time ago, about the Club using the same playing system from youth level right through to the 1st team, as at Barcelona, for example. The idea being that players could progress to the 1st team, and fit in knowing exactly what was expected of them. Does that mean that any potential manager with a different playing philosophy than that in operation with the academy and under-21s will not be considered? We will soon know which is more important to the Club, promotion or continuity.[/p][/quote]It might be said that we have, 'continuity,' as we have been using our current style under two managers and made the play-offs two years on the bounce. Might it be that what we need are better players to impliment the style, and for a tweak here and there, to the style, to add a little more bite. I can't see Bloom hiring a manager that is going to undo what has already achieved, my hope is that he finds the right man to improve what we do and have done.[/p][/quote]But no-one has ever gets promoted using our current style, Vegas. Indications are that we are not going to get better players to implement the style, so a change of direction could be vital if we are to achieve any success. The appointment of a Manager who will follow the blueprint that is already in place at B&HA, would suggest to me that promotion in the foreseeable future is not a priority.[/p][/quote]Genuine question - what style did Swansea play when they got promoted? I know they play a nice passing game now but did they use that to get out of the division in the first place?[/p][/quote]I don't understand your point? Are you suggesting that we adopt a hoof-ball approach to gaining promotion? GP did a terrific job implementing an expansive passing style, but there are limitations bearing in mind the players' technical abilities. The right coach and a few new technically gifted players could see us promoted, having played an expansive 'Swansea' type of style. I feel nauseous at the thought of the Big Sam types of coaches being appointed, we have developed a certain playing style that has. Taken us to. Twnow its time to build upon that foundation and I was thrilled to see a couple of our lads in the U21 England squad, and they (and RI) will only get better in the future. daughter-of-manag
  • Score: 3

4:38pm Tue 20 May 14

daughter-of-manag says...

daughter-of-manag wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
gordongull wrote:
There was much talk some time ago, about the Club using the same playing system from youth level right through to the 1st team, as at Barcelona, for example. The idea being that players could progress to the 1st team, and fit in knowing exactly what was expected of them.
Does that mean that any potential manager with a different playing philosophy than that in operation with the academy and under-21s will not be considered?
We will soon know which is more important to the Club, promotion or continuity.
It might be said that we have, 'continuity,' as we have been using our current style under two managers and made the play-offs two years on the bounce.
Might it be that what we need are better players to impliment the style, and for a tweak here and there, to the style, to add a little more bite.
I can't see Bloom hiring a manager that is going to undo what has already achieved, my hope is that he finds the right man to improve what we do and have done.
But no-one has ever gets promoted using our current style, Vegas. Indications are that we are not going to get better players to implement the style, so a change of direction could be vital if we are to achieve any success. The appointment of a Manager who will follow the blueprint that is already in place at B&HA, would suggest to me that promotion in the foreseeable future is not a priority.
Genuine question - what style did Swansea play when they got promoted? I know they play a nice passing game now but did they use that to get out of the division in the first place?
I don't understand your point? Are you suggesting that we adopt a hoof-ball approach to gaining promotion? GP did a terrific job implementing an expansive passing style, but there are limitations bearing in mind the players' technical abilities. The right coach and a few new technically gifted players could see us promoted, having played an expansive 'Swansea' type of style. I feel nauseous at the thought of the Big Sam types of coaches being appointed, we have developed a certain playing style that has. Taken us to. Twnow its time to build upon that foundation and

I was thrilled to see a couple of our lads in the U21 England squad, and they (and RI) will only get better in the future.
Whoops - hit post by accident! Sorry that last few sentences didn't make sense - flipping iPad!

Let's build on our excellent foundations and appoint someone capable of taking us forward in the future. No hoof ball - let's keep investing our young players, and also buy some technically gifted ones too this summer. Two play off places two years running has been an awesome achievement, bearing in mind our limited budget!

Keep the faith and the ball at the feet!

UTA
[quote][p][bold]daughter-of-manag[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: There was much talk some time ago, about the Club using the same playing system from youth level right through to the 1st team, as at Barcelona, for example. The idea being that players could progress to the 1st team, and fit in knowing exactly what was expected of them. Does that mean that any potential manager with a different playing philosophy than that in operation with the academy and under-21s will not be considered? We will soon know which is more important to the Club, promotion or continuity.[/p][/quote]It might be said that we have, 'continuity,' as we have been using our current style under two managers and made the play-offs two years on the bounce. Might it be that what we need are better players to impliment the style, and for a tweak here and there, to the style, to add a little more bite. I can't see Bloom hiring a manager that is going to undo what has already achieved, my hope is that he finds the right man to improve what we do and have done.[/p][/quote]But no-one has ever gets promoted using our current style, Vegas. Indications are that we are not going to get better players to implement the style, so a change of direction could be vital if we are to achieve any success. The appointment of a Manager who will follow the blueprint that is already in place at B&HA, would suggest to me that promotion in the foreseeable future is not a priority.[/p][/quote]Genuine question - what style did Swansea play when they got promoted? I know they play a nice passing game now but did they use that to get out of the division in the first place?[/p][/quote]I don't understand your point? Are you suggesting that we adopt a hoof-ball approach to gaining promotion? GP did a terrific job implementing an expansive passing style, but there are limitations bearing in mind the players' technical abilities. The right coach and a few new technically gifted players could see us promoted, having played an expansive 'Swansea' type of style. I feel nauseous at the thought of the Big Sam types of coaches being appointed, we have developed a certain playing style that has. Taken us to. Twnow its time to build upon that foundation and I was thrilled to see a couple of our lads in the U21 England squad, and they (and RI) will only get better in the future.[/p][/quote]Whoops - hit post by accident! Sorry that last few sentences didn't make sense - flipping iPad! Let's build on our excellent foundations and appoint someone capable of taking us forward in the future. No hoof ball - let's keep investing our young players, and also buy some technically gifted ones too this summer. Two play off places two years running has been an awesome achievement, bearing in mind our limited budget! Keep the faith and the ball at the feet! UTA daughter-of-manag
  • Score: 3

4:57pm Tue 20 May 14

SonnyJim55 says...

On a slightly different note I have heard a couple of rumours about Chris Eagles signing, now that would be a definite plus!
On a slightly different note I have heard a couple of rumours about Chris Eagles signing, now that would be a definite plus! SonnyJim55
  • Score: 2

5:33pm Tue 20 May 14

Falmer Wizard says...

Clement? I think not, even in Spain they must know that our previous two Manager/Coach moved on due to lack of cash to purchase new players.
Both Hughton and Clarke are used to working with low valued players and
small squads so could well do here
Clement? I think not, even in Spain they must know that our previous two Manager/Coach moved on due to lack of cash to purchase new players. Both Hughton and Clarke are used to working with low valued players and small squads so could well do here Falmer Wizard
  • Score: 0

5:34pm Tue 20 May 14

gordongull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
gordongull wrote:
There was much talk some time ago, about the Club using the same playing system from youth level right through to the 1st team, as at Barcelona, for example. The idea being that players could progress to the 1st team, and fit in knowing exactly what was expected of them.
Does that mean that any potential manager with a different playing philosophy than that in operation with the academy and under-21s will not be considered?
We will soon know which is more important to the Club, promotion or continuity.
It might be said that we have, 'continuity,' as we have been using our current style under two managers and made the play-offs two years on the bounce.
Might it be that what we need are better players to impliment the style, and for a tweak here and there, to the style, to add a little more bite.
I can't see Bloom hiring a manager that is going to undo what has already achieved, my hope is that he finds the right man to improve what we do and have done.
But no-one has ever gets promoted using our current style, Vegas. Indications are that we are not going to get better players to implement the style, so a change of direction could be vital if we are to achieve any success. The appointment of a Manager who will follow the blueprint that is already in place at B&HA, would suggest to me that promotion in the foreseeable future is not a priority.
but if you think we won't get better players for our style, will we not need better players for a different style?
No , just a better Manager.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: There was much talk some time ago, about the Club using the same playing system from youth level right through to the 1st team, as at Barcelona, for example. The idea being that players could progress to the 1st team, and fit in knowing exactly what was expected of them. Does that mean that any potential manager with a different playing philosophy than that in operation with the academy and under-21s will not be considered? We will soon know which is more important to the Club, promotion or continuity.[/p][/quote]It might be said that we have, 'continuity,' as we have been using our current style under two managers and made the play-offs two years on the bounce. Might it be that what we need are better players to impliment the style, and for a tweak here and there, to the style, to add a little more bite. I can't see Bloom hiring a manager that is going to undo what has already achieved, my hope is that he finds the right man to improve what we do and have done.[/p][/quote]But no-one has ever gets promoted using our current style, Vegas. Indications are that we are not going to get better players to implement the style, so a change of direction could be vital if we are to achieve any success. The appointment of a Manager who will follow the blueprint that is already in place at B&HA, would suggest to me that promotion in the foreseeable future is not a priority.[/p][/quote]but if you think we won't get better players for our style, will we not need better players for a different style?[/p][/quote]No , just a better Manager. gordongull
  • Score: -3

5:36pm Tue 20 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

SonnyJim55 wrote:
On a slightly different note I have heard a couple of rumours about Chris Eagles signing, now that would be a definite plus!
it helps if you offer from where the rumour stemmed from.
[quote][p][bold]SonnyJim55[/bold] wrote: On a slightly different note I have heard a couple of rumours about Chris Eagles signing, now that would be a definite plus![/p][/quote]it helps if you offer from where the rumour stemmed from. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

6:03pm Tue 20 May 14

SonnyJim55 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
SonnyJim55 wrote:
On a slightly different note I have heard a couple of rumours about Chris Eagles signing, now that would be a definite plus!
it helps if you offer from where the rumour stemmed from.
I didn't just pluck it out of the sky!

Someone who has links with the club but obviously cannot mention names and I am sure you wouldn't expect that either
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SonnyJim55[/bold] wrote: On a slightly different note I have heard a couple of rumours about Chris Eagles signing, now that would be a definite plus![/p][/quote]it helps if you offer from where the rumour stemmed from.[/p][/quote]I didn't just pluck it out of the sky! Someone who has links with the club but obviously cannot mention names and I am sure you wouldn't expect that either SonnyJim55
  • Score: -1

6:05pm Tue 20 May 14

gordongull says...

daughter-of-manag wrote:
daughter-of-manag wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
gordongull wrote:
There was much talk some time ago, about the Club using the same playing system from youth level right through to the 1st team, as at Barcelona, for example. The idea being that players could progress to the 1st team, and fit in knowing exactly what was expected of them.
Does that mean that any potential manager with a different playing philosophy than that in operation with the academy and under-21s will not be considered?
We will soon know which is more important to the Club, promotion or continuity.
It might be said that we have, 'continuity,' as we have been using our current style under two managers and made the play-offs two years on the bounce.
Might it be that what we need are better players to impliment the style, and for a tweak here and there, to the style, to add a little more bite.
I can't see Bloom hiring a manager that is going to undo what has already achieved, my hope is that he finds the right man to improve what we do and have done.
But no-one has ever gets promoted using our current style, Vegas. Indications are that we are not going to get better players to implement the style, so a change of direction could be vital if we are to achieve any success. The appointment of a Manager who will follow the blueprint that is already in place at B&HA, would suggest to me that promotion in the foreseeable future is not a priority.
Genuine question - what style did Swansea play when they got promoted? I know they play a nice passing game now but did they use that to get out of the division in the first place?
I don't understand your point? Are you suggesting that we adopt a hoof-ball approach to gaining promotion? GP did a terrific job implementing an expansive passing style, but there are limitations bearing in mind the players' technical abilities. The right coach and a few new technically gifted players could see us promoted, having played an expansive 'Swansea' type of style. I feel nauseous at the thought of the Big Sam types of coaches being appointed, we have developed a certain playing style that has. Taken us to. Twnow its time to build upon that foundation and

I was thrilled to see a couple of our lads in the U21 England squad, and they (and RI) will only get better in the future.
Whoops - hit post by accident! Sorry that last few sentences didn't make sense - flipping iPad!

Let's build on our excellent foundations and appoint someone capable of taking us forward in the future. No hoof ball - let's keep investing our young players, and also buy some technically gifted ones too this summer. Two play off places two years running has been an awesome achievement, bearing in mind our limited budget!

Keep the faith and the ball at the feet!

UTA
You say the right Coach, and a few technically gifted players could get us promoted. The point is that until these players materialize, we will continue to find the opposition difficult to break down. If Westham and Barcelona swapped players, would you bet against Big Sam taking the Title next season? Players who are that good can play any system.
I' m not sure how you define ''hoofball''. Do Derby and Burnley play it?
Is it anything that doesn't involve passing the ball sideways and back until an opportunity arises, rather than trying to actually create the opportunity?
[quote][p][bold]daughter-of-manag[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]daughter-of-manag[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: There was much talk some time ago, about the Club using the same playing system from youth level right through to the 1st team, as at Barcelona, for example. The idea being that players could progress to the 1st team, and fit in knowing exactly what was expected of them. Does that mean that any potential manager with a different playing philosophy than that in operation with the academy and under-21s will not be considered? We will soon know which is more important to the Club, promotion or continuity.[/p][/quote]It might be said that we have, 'continuity,' as we have been using our current style under two managers and made the play-offs two years on the bounce. Might it be that what we need are better players to impliment the style, and for a tweak here and there, to the style, to add a little more bite. I can't see Bloom hiring a manager that is going to undo what has already achieved, my hope is that he finds the right man to improve what we do and have done.[/p][/quote]But no-one has ever gets promoted using our current style, Vegas. Indications are that we are not going to get better players to implement the style, so a change of direction could be vital if we are to achieve any success. The appointment of a Manager who will follow the blueprint that is already in place at B&HA, would suggest to me that promotion in the foreseeable future is not a priority.[/p][/quote]Genuine question - what style did Swansea play when they got promoted? I know they play a nice passing game now but did they use that to get out of the division in the first place?[/p][/quote]I don't understand your point? Are you suggesting that we adopt a hoof-ball approach to gaining promotion? GP did a terrific job implementing an expansive passing style, but there are limitations bearing in mind the players' technical abilities. The right coach and a few new technically gifted players could see us promoted, having played an expansive 'Swansea' type of style. I feel nauseous at the thought of the Big Sam types of coaches being appointed, we have developed a certain playing style that has. Taken us to. Twnow its time to build upon that foundation and I was thrilled to see a couple of our lads in the U21 England squad, and they (and RI) will only get better in the future.[/p][/quote]Whoops - hit post by accident! Sorry that last few sentences didn't make sense - flipping iPad! Let's build on our excellent foundations and appoint someone capable of taking us forward in the future. No hoof ball - let's keep investing our young players, and also buy some technically gifted ones too this summer. Two play off places two years running has been an awesome achievement, bearing in mind our limited budget! Keep the faith and the ball at the feet! UTA[/p][/quote]You say the right Coach, and a few technically gifted players could get us promoted. The point is that until these players materialize, we will continue to find the opposition difficult to break down. If Westham and Barcelona swapped players, would you bet against Big Sam taking the Title next season? Players who are that good can play any system. I' m not sure how you define ''hoofball''. Do Derby and Burnley play it? Is it anything that doesn't involve passing the ball sideways and back until an opportunity arises, rather than trying to actually create the opportunity? gordongull
  • Score: -3

6:14pm Tue 20 May 14

namgo49 says...

With Tim Sherwood you get the charisma factor that makes would be players sit up and think, yeah I'd like to play for him. Unfortunately with Chris Hughton that is missing. Decent man, decent coach but, personality wise just hasn't got it. Steve Clarke very much the same.
With Tim Sherwood you get the charisma factor that makes would be players sit up and think, yeah I'd like to play for him. Unfortunately with Chris Hughton that is missing. Decent man, decent coach but, personality wise just hasn't got it. Steve Clarke very much the same. namgo49
  • Score: 0

6:37pm Tue 20 May 14

barnieb says...

Not Sherwwod,not Clement,not Hughton. Owen Coyle is the best available manager,if we could get him,would be a major step forward.
Not Sherwwod,not Clement,not Hughton. Owen Coyle is the best available manager,if we could get him,would be a major step forward. barnieb
  • Score: -6

6:47pm Tue 20 May 14

Far gull says...

namgo49 wrote:
With Tim Sherwood you get the charisma factor that makes would be players sit up and think, yeah I'd like to play for him. Unfortunately with Chris Hughton that is missing. Decent man, decent coach but, personality wise just hasn't got it. Steve Clarke very much the same.
Spot on. We need to attract a top player or two to put butts on seats aka vicente/bridge. We were missing their box office this season and so were the dressing room as guys to inspire and look up too.
All top teams need them.
Still would love Hoddle to be offered and take the post.
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: With Tim Sherwood you get the charisma factor that makes would be players sit up and think, yeah I'd like to play for him. Unfortunately with Chris Hughton that is missing. Decent man, decent coach but, personality wise just hasn't got it. Steve Clarke very much the same.[/p][/quote]Spot on. We need to attract a top player or two to put butts on seats aka vicente/bridge. We were missing their box office this season and so were the dressing room as guys to inspire and look up too. All top teams need them. Still would love Hoddle to be offered and take the post. Far gull
  • Score: 1

5:22pm Wed 21 May 14

Neville says...

Cornelli98
Hi,in an earlier post you said your contact,who predicted OG last time said it would be Mackay,so why the change for Clarke now
Cornelli98 Hi,in an earlier post you said your contact,who predicted OG last time said it would be Mackay,so why the change for Clarke now Neville
  • Score: 2

10:48pm Thu 22 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

Nosfaratu wrote:
O dear, fancy sacking your manager and then finding no-one wants the job.
I wonder why?

On another note, please go to Change.org and petition the US CoastGuard to resume the search for the British crew of the Cheeki Rafiki, a sailing yacht from Southampton. These Guys have Families and should not just forgotten.
Its Free to sign.
You want sympathy for a cause, why not start with an offensive and inaccurate comment on our team. Well done! Saints fan?
[quote][p][bold]Nosfaratu[/bold] wrote: O dear, fancy sacking your manager and then finding no-one wants the job. I wonder why? On another note, please go to Change.org and petition the US CoastGuard to resume the search for the British crew of the Cheeki Rafiki, a sailing yacht from Southampton. These Guys have Families and should not just forgotten. Its Free to sign.[/p][/quote]You want sympathy for a cause, why not start with an offensive and inaccurate comment on our team. Well done! Saints fan? Captain Haddock
  • Score: 0

10:50pm Thu 22 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

....oh and by the way, assuming your name is supposed to be the alternative moniker for Count Dracula it's NosfEratu, not nosfAratu.
....oh and by the way, assuming your name is supposed to be the alternative moniker for Count Dracula it's NosfEratu, not nosfAratu. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

11:02pm Thu 22 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Hold on, just realised MBTS was accusing me of voting for Jones, not Hughton. Wow. Just wow.

You seemed to have gained the impression I want Jones to stay. Not true, as I made quite clear. I just said that the club would be stupid to fire him until we get someone else in, at which time 'adios'.
Jesus mate ! Just banta! I was joking! I don't think anyone wants people kept on the basis that anyone taking the job has to work with him or anyone else!
I appreciate your view also on DOF , however are we not assuming that his role at spurs is the same as it is here? Was he involved with the scouting system? Or was he there simply to thrash out the best financial for spurs?
The problem is see is we assume one persons role is the same at another club even if given the same title!
I think TB or Burke eluded that regarding the next coach being called manager or the other way around, however his role won't be any different to OG .
As you say houghton has some pedigree in the championship , but he has not taken the west brom job because of backroom issues ?
If you refer to recent comments on here from The Argus itself, the backroom issue relates to LAST summer. Hughton hasn't officially been interviewed for the WBA job this time around.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: Hold on, just realised MBTS was accusing me of voting for Jones, not Hughton. Wow. Just wow. You seemed to have gained the impression I want Jones to stay. Not true, as I made quite clear. I just said that the club would be stupid to fire him until we get someone else in, at which time 'adios'.[/p][/quote]Jesus mate ! Just banta! I was joking! I don't think anyone wants people kept on the basis that anyone taking the job has to work with him or anyone else! I appreciate your view also on DOF , however are we not assuming that his role at spurs is the same as it is here? Was he involved with the scouting system? Or was he there simply to thrash out the best financial for spurs? The problem is see is we assume one persons role is the same at another club even if given the same title! I think TB or Burke eluded that regarding the next coach being called manager or the other way around, however his role won't be any different to OG . As you say houghton has some pedigree in the championship , but he has not taken the west brom job because of backroom issues ?[/p][/quote]If you refer to recent comments on here from The Argus itself, the backroom issue relates to LAST summer. Hughton hasn't officially been interviewed for the WBA job this time around. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

11:15pm Thu 22 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
gordongull wrote:
There was much talk some time ago, about the Club using the same playing system from youth level right through to the 1st team, as at Barcelona, for example. The idea being that players could progress to the 1st team, and fit in knowing exactly what was expected of them.
Does that mean that any potential manager with a different playing philosophy than that in operation with the academy and under-21s will not be considered?
We will soon know which is more important to the Club, promotion or continuity.
It might be said that we have, 'continuity,' as we have been using our current style under two managers and made the play-offs two years on the bounce.
Might it be that what we need are better players to impliment the style, and for a tweak here and there, to the style, to add a little more bite.
I can't see Bloom hiring a manager that is going to undo what has already achieved, my hope is that he finds the right man to improve what we do and have done.
But no-one has ever gets promoted using our current style, Vegas. Indications are that we are not going to get better players to implement the style, so a change of direction could be vital if we are to achieve any success. The appointment of a Manager who will follow the blueprint that is already in place at B&HA, would suggest to me that promotion in the foreseeable future is not a priority.
Erm, Swansea (which is exactly who he's been modelling us on for the last four years....if we'd gone up via the playoffs this season we would have almost exactly replicated their achievements year-on-year btw.)
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: There was much talk some time ago, about the Club using the same playing system from youth level right through to the 1st team, as at Barcelona, for example. The idea being that players could progress to the 1st team, and fit in knowing exactly what was expected of them. Does that mean that any potential manager with a different playing philosophy than that in operation with the academy and under-21s will not be considered? We will soon know which is more important to the Club, promotion or continuity.[/p][/quote]It might be said that we have, 'continuity,' as we have been using our current style under two managers and made the play-offs two years on the bounce. Might it be that what we need are better players to impliment the style, and for a tweak here and there, to the style, to add a little more bite. I can't see Bloom hiring a manager that is going to undo what has already achieved, my hope is that he finds the right man to improve what we do and have done.[/p][/quote]But no-one has ever gets promoted using our current style, Vegas. Indications are that we are not going to get better players to implement the style, so a change of direction could be vital if we are to achieve any success. The appointment of a Manager who will follow the blueprint that is already in place at B&HA, would suggest to me that promotion in the foreseeable future is not a priority.[/p][/quote]Erm, Swansea (which is exactly who he's been modelling us on for the last four years....if we'd gone up via the playoffs this season we would have almost exactly replicated their achievements year-on-year btw.) Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

11:27pm Thu 22 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
gordongull wrote:
There was much talk some time ago, about the Club using the same playing system from youth level right through to the 1st team, as at Barcelona, for example. The idea being that players could progress to the 1st team, and fit in knowing exactly what was expected of them.
Does that mean that any potential manager with a different playing philosophy than that in operation with the academy and under-21s will not be considered?
We will soon know which is more important to the Club, promotion or continuity.
It might be said that we have, 'continuity,' as we have been using our current style under two managers and made the play-offs two years on the bounce.
Might it be that what we need are better players to impliment the style, and for a tweak here and there, to the style, to add a little more bite.
I can't see Bloom hiring a manager that is going to undo what has already achieved, my hope is that he finds the right man to improve what we do and have done.
But no-one has ever gets promoted using our current style, Vegas. Indications are that we are not going to get better players to implement the style, so a change of direction could be vital if we are to achieve any success. The appointment of a Manager who will follow the blueprint that is already in place at B&HA, would suggest to me that promotion in the foreseeable future is not a priority.
Genuine question - what style did Swansea play when they got promoted? I know they play a nice passing game now but did they use that to get out of the division in the first place?
Same as now, Arnie. They had a vision and a style that they have stuck to. Tony Bloom told a group of us at a forum 4 years ago that we are following the same policy. Quality passing football regardless of managerial and divisional changes. He won't ever change that philosophy.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: There was much talk some time ago, about the Club using the same playing system from youth level right through to the 1st team, as at Barcelona, for example. The idea being that players could progress to the 1st team, and fit in knowing exactly what was expected of them. Does that mean that any potential manager with a different playing philosophy than that in operation with the academy and under-21s will not be considered? We will soon know which is more important to the Club, promotion or continuity.[/p][/quote]It might be said that we have, 'continuity,' as we have been using our current style under two managers and made the play-offs two years on the bounce. Might it be that what we need are better players to impliment the style, and for a tweak here and there, to the style, to add a little more bite. I can't see Bloom hiring a manager that is going to undo what has already achieved, my hope is that he finds the right man to improve what we do and have done.[/p][/quote]But no-one has ever gets promoted using our current style, Vegas. Indications are that we are not going to get better players to implement the style, so a change of direction could be vital if we are to achieve any success. The appointment of a Manager who will follow the blueprint that is already in place at B&HA, would suggest to me that promotion in the foreseeable future is not a priority.[/p][/quote]Genuine question - what style did Swansea play when they got promoted? I know they play a nice passing game now but did they use that to get out of the division in the first place?[/p][/quote]Same as now, Arnie. They had a vision and a style that they have stuck to. Tony Bloom told a group of us at a forum 4 years ago that we are following the same policy. Quality passing football regardless of managerial and divisional changes. He won't ever change that philosophy. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

11:34pm Thu 22 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

East of CrawleyDown wrote:
Here's one that sneaked up unnoticed, Paulo Di Canio has announced he's ready to get back into management as a better and stronger manager. Could he end up as Albion manager? There would certainly never be a dull moment! An interesting gamble that could pay off or backfire spectacularly!
Erm, it'll be either your latter scenario or your latter scenario. Di Canio is a fascist, hot-headed idiot. Bloom wouldn't give him a second's thought, just as I wouldn't give a second's thought to returning my season ticket if he was ever appointed.
[quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: Here's one that sneaked up unnoticed, Paulo Di Canio has announced he's ready to get back into management as a better and stronger manager. Could he end up as Albion manager? There would certainly never be a dull moment! An interesting gamble that could pay off or backfire spectacularly![/p][/quote]Erm, it'll be either your latter scenario or your latter scenario. Di Canio is a fascist, hot-headed idiot. Bloom wouldn't give him a second's thought, just as I wouldn't give a second's thought to returning my season ticket if he was ever appointed. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

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