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Albion understood to have knocked back Ulloa bid

The Argus: Leo Ulloa celebrates one of his two goals at Leicester in April Leo Ulloa celebrates one of his two goals at Leicester in April

Albion have turned down a major bid for Leo Ulloa, according to reports in Leicester.

The Seagulls are understood to have knocked back an offer in excess of £3million – and be asking for closer to £10million.

Foxes boss Nigel Pearson is keen to sign a strong centre-forward who can play on his own in attack and bring team mates into the play as he plans for life in the Premier League.

Ulloa would fit that bill – and scored twice against Leicester in April.

Leicester have already signed Albion’s player of the year Matt Upson on a free transfer and also have ex-Seagulls midfielder Dean Hammond in their ranks.

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10:01am Tue 27 May 14

B rian Tawses left foot says...

With no premiership experience he's not worth £10 million. Let's hope other clubs agree and that he starts the season wearing blue and white.
With no premiership experience he's not worth £10 million. Let's hope other clubs agree and that he starts the season wearing blue and white. B rian Tawses left foot
  • Score: 6

10:05am Tue 27 May 14

Withdean-er says...

The close to £10m will never happen, Ulloa is not worth that, but it shows that we are willing to let him go - the 'every player has his price cliche'. If BHA could get a substantial fee, let it happen, but only once we have our targets 99% ready to sign. The fee, plus the war-chest from the Barnes & Bridcutt sales (less Stephens fee), must surely finance a much-needed substantial rebuilding which is much due - more pace, power and early/mid-20's aged players in the squad. The club have also successfully slashed payroll costs from this time last year if you think about who has departed.
The close to £10m will never happen, Ulloa is not worth that, but it shows that we are willing to let him go - the 'every player has his price cliche'. If BHA could get a substantial fee, let it happen, but only once we have our targets 99% ready to sign. The fee, plus the war-chest from the Barnes & Bridcutt sales (less Stephens fee), must surely finance a much-needed substantial rebuilding which is much due - more pace, power and early/mid-20's aged players in the squad. The club have also successfully slashed payroll costs from this time last year if you think about who has departed. Withdean-er
  • Score: 5

10:10am Tue 27 May 14

peterpan32 says...

3million isn't a major bid. They are saying 10 million but will accept 5.5-6million. Which i believe would be a good fee.
3million isn't a major bid. They are saying 10 million but will accept 5.5-6million. Which i believe would be a good fee. peterpan32
  • Score: 5

10:11am Tue 27 May 14

Claude Back says...

If Ulloa goes we are looking at someone building virtually a new team. Therefore, logically but not necessarily certainly, that would suggest to me that we would be looking at an experienced English League manager who knows the Leagues well and can recruit players. To get many foreign players and just hope that they all gel would be risky . If so, Clement might not be the one anyway even though he has experience in England some time ago.

(If this post appears twice my apologies but something is a bit wrong with the site. It said 'Comment accepted' but nothing appeared.)
If Ulloa goes we are looking at someone building virtually a new team. Therefore, logically but not necessarily certainly, that would suggest to me that we would be looking at an experienced English League manager who knows the Leagues well and can recruit players. To get many foreign players and just hope that they all gel would be risky . If so, Clement might not be the one anyway even though he has experience in England some time ago. (If this post appears twice my apologies but something is a bit wrong with the site. It said 'Comment accepted' but nothing appeared.) Claude Back
  • Score: 7

10:48am Tue 27 May 14

AlfieT says...

Claude Back wrote:
If Ulloa goes we are looking at someone building virtually a new team. Therefore, logically but not necessarily certainly, that would suggest to me that we would be looking at an experienced English League manager who knows the Leagues well and can recruit players. To get many foreign players and just hope that they all gel would be risky . If so, Clement might not be the one anyway even though he has experience in England some time ago.

(If this post appears twice my apologies but something is a bit wrong with the site. It said 'Comment accepted' but nothing appeared.)
Agree Claude, if Leo goes then that's three big players for us gone, my guess the club will settle at around £7 million, good business in my view. Also agree regarding an experienced british manager to hit the ground running, McKay would be my choice.
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: If Ulloa goes we are looking at someone building virtually a new team. Therefore, logically but not necessarily certainly, that would suggest to me that we would be looking at an experienced English League manager who knows the Leagues well and can recruit players. To get many foreign players and just hope that they all gel would be risky . If so, Clement might not be the one anyway even though he has experience in England some time ago. (If this post appears twice my apologies but something is a bit wrong with the site. It said 'Comment accepted' but nothing appeared.)[/p][/quote]Agree Claude, if Leo goes then that's three big players for us gone, my guess the club will settle at around £7 million, good business in my view. Also agree regarding an experienced british manager to hit the ground running, McKay would be my choice. AlfieT
  • Score: 8

10:49am Tue 27 May 14

fan since 61 says...

I agree Claude Back, as long as its not Hughton or Mowbray they would be a step backwards IMO
I agree Claude Back, as long as its not Hughton or Mowbray they would be a step backwards IMO fan since 61
  • Score: 8

10:51am Tue 27 May 14

Neville says...

If we can get 5m plus then he will go.Reading article about Derby and they are already trying to re sign there loaners similar to other Championship clubs and within next few weeks will have their settled side ready for pre season and the start of season.
Looking at the betting odds etc there are not many Uk candidates that play the Spanish style which is now in doctrines throughout our teams,the person also needs to be academy knowledgeable and of the candidates Hoddle would seem to fit that bill,especially with his connections with Spanish academy.
The disruption caused by Managers leaving is immense,support staff,medical staff,goalkeeping coach,analyst team etc etc.
TB hopefully will get this sorted by end of week and to be honest I don,t think anyone has clue who will be the next manager.
Really hoped we would get Ward signed quickly,but he will move onto Pl I fear.
The fans really do need some optimism now, no news stories of substance and nothing from TB and PB.
If we can get 5m plus then he will go.Reading article about Derby and they are already trying to re sign there loaners similar to other Championship clubs and within next few weeks will have their settled side ready for pre season and the start of season. Looking at the betting odds etc there are not many Uk candidates that play the Spanish style which is now in doctrines throughout our teams,the person also needs to be academy knowledgeable and of the candidates Hoddle would seem to fit that bill,especially with his connections with Spanish academy. The disruption caused by Managers leaving is immense,support staff,medical staff,goalkeeping coach,analyst team etc etc. TB hopefully will get this sorted by end of week and to be honest I don,t think anyone has clue who will be the next manager. Really hoped we would get Ward signed quickly,but he will move onto Pl I fear. The fans really do need some optimism now, no news stories of substance and nothing from TB and PB. Neville
  • Score: 3

10:51am Tue 27 May 14

JeffLomer says...

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
With no premiership experience he's not worth £10 million. Let's hope other clubs agree and that he starts the season wearing blue and white.
He is worth probably 5-7 million pound, but if we can get more then great because we all no he will leave, so the more we get the better for the club, as long as we reinvest the money on new players,
Up the Albion!!!!
[quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: With no premiership experience he's not worth £10 million. Let's hope other clubs agree and that he starts the season wearing blue and white.[/p][/quote]He is worth probably 5-7 million pound, but if we can get more then great because we all no he will leave, so the more we get the better for the club, as long as we reinvest the money on new players, Up the Albion!!!! JeffLomer
  • Score: -2

10:57am Tue 27 May 14

Shaftesbury Seagull says...

Goals scored during the play-offs by Zamora, Revell (2) and Cox. Automatic promotions for Hammond (Leicester) and Barnes (Burnley). All ex Albion. Just a thought!
Goals scored during the play-offs by Zamora, Revell (2) and Cox. Automatic promotions for Hammond (Leicester) and Barnes (Burnley). All ex Albion. Just a thought! Shaftesbury Seagull
  • Score: 2

11:15am Tue 27 May 14

leonrobichaud says...

This is getting ridiculous. How can we be expected to keep these players if we haven't even got a manager or a sniff of a manager. It seems to me that we will lose more than we gain this summer. How do we fix this?

Employ a coach who players and fans respect: Someone like Mowbry or Hughton may have good CVs but look at their track record. Bouncing between clubs with reckless abandon because they can't find a place to stick. That speaks volumes about a managers commitment and drive but also his character. Looking at the candidates there are a few out there that would do the job we need doing. Who we will eventually hire is a mystery but we need someone who has passion and is a proven winner in their football career. Some of these are left field but I'll accept the pellters that come my way.

Zola- Is he a respected figure in English football? would he tick both the boxes? Does he have the "connections" that a lot of posters on here seem to value? Yes to all three. Will he come? Probably not, it seems back room politics played a part in him leaving Watford and some perceive the meddling behind the scenes as a reason why some managers are leaving the Albion well alone.

Phil Brown- He has been here and done it before, look what he did with Hull in the space of a year from relegation candidates to premiership club. He has personality and fire in his belly. Would he be such a bad choice? Not sure about half time team talks in front of the crowd, but made for a fun MOTD that week.

Tim Sherwood- seems to be the one the majority of fans want as with Brown he has personality and fire. He would light a spark under the club. But how far would it go and would he see out the project before jumping ship to a team in the premiership if he is initially successful. He strikes me as the type who would look to further his own career first. Be careful what you wish for is my opinion.

Glen Hoddle- What did he actually ever do wrong from a managerial point of view? Disability gaffe aside, I think he would be able to do much the same sort of job as "the wally with the brolly" has at Derby this year. He is a good manger, but it may take a lot to get him back into the English game.

Mark Warburton- How many times did Brentford lose with him in charge? He just won promotion, his team played good football with a mixture of youth and experience. Sounds like Brighton may be his perfect storm of a club. Would he leave Brentford? Not sure but isn't he worth a look? I would be happy with Mr Warburton on the bench.

Although this is all speculation it is clear we need an appointment soon or players like Ulloa will not have anyone to look to when making decisions on their future and why stay on board a ship without a rudder when there could possibly be one going to a better destination willing to pick you up.
This is getting ridiculous. How can we be expected to keep these players if we haven't even got a manager or a sniff of a manager. It seems to me that we will lose more than we gain this summer. How do we fix this? Employ a coach who players and fans respect: Someone like Mowbry or Hughton may have good CVs but look at their track record. Bouncing between clubs with reckless abandon because they can't find a place to stick. That speaks volumes about a managers commitment and drive but also his character. Looking at the candidates there are a few out there that would do the job we need doing. Who we will eventually hire is a mystery but we need someone who has passion and is a proven winner in their football career. Some of these are left field but I'll accept the pellters that come my way. Zola- Is he a respected figure in English football? would he tick both the boxes? Does he have the "connections" that a lot of posters on here seem to value? Yes to all three. Will he come? Probably not, it seems back room politics played a part in him leaving Watford and some perceive the meddling behind the scenes as a reason why some managers are leaving the Albion well alone. Phil Brown- He has been here and done it before, look what he did with Hull in the space of a year from relegation candidates to premiership club. He has personality and fire in his belly. Would he be such a bad choice? Not sure about half time team talks in front of the crowd, but made for a fun MOTD that week. Tim Sherwood- seems to be the one the majority of fans want as with Brown he has personality and fire. He would light a spark under the club. But how far would it go and would he see out the project before jumping ship to a team in the premiership if he is initially successful. He strikes me as the type who would look to further his own career first. Be careful what you wish for is my opinion. Glen Hoddle- What did he actually ever do wrong from a managerial point of view? Disability gaffe aside, I think he would be able to do much the same sort of job as "the wally with the brolly" has at Derby this year. He is a good manger, but it may take a lot to get him back into the English game. Mark Warburton- How many times did Brentford lose with him in charge? He just won promotion, his team played good football with a mixture of youth and experience. Sounds like Brighton may be his perfect storm of a club. Would he leave Brentford? Not sure but isn't he worth a look? I would be happy with Mr Warburton on the bench. Although this is all speculation it is clear we need an appointment soon or players like Ulloa will not have anyone to look to when making decisions on their future and why stay on board a ship without a rudder when there could possibly be one going to a better destination willing to pick you up. leonrobichaud
  • Score: 11

11:16am Tue 27 May 14

Asleep in Dorset says...

Shaftesbury Seagull wrote:
Goals scored during the play-offs by Zamora, Revell (2) and Cox. Automatic promotions for Hammond (Leicester) and Barnes (Burnley). All ex Albion. Just a thought!
and that thought is ???
[quote][p][bold]Shaftesbury Seagull[/bold] wrote: Goals scored during the play-offs by Zamora, Revell (2) and Cox. Automatic promotions for Hammond (Leicester) and Barnes (Burnley). All ex Albion. Just a thought![/p][/quote]and that thought is ??? Asleep in Dorset
  • Score: 0

11:17am Tue 27 May 14

Asleep in Dorset says...

AlfieT wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
If Ulloa goes we are looking at someone building virtually a new team. Therefore, logically but not necessarily certainly, that would suggest to me that we would be looking at an experienced English League manager who knows the Leagues well and can recruit players. To get many foreign players and just hope that they all gel would be risky . If so, Clement might not be the one anyway even though he has experience in England some time ago.

(If this post appears twice my apologies but something is a bit wrong with the site. It said 'Comment accepted' but nothing appeared.)
Agree Claude, if Leo goes then that's three big players for us gone, my guess the club will settle at around £7 million, good business in my view. Also agree regarding an experienced british manager to hit the ground running, McKay would be my choice.
McKay has already stated he's not interested ! Keep up at the back !
[quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: If Ulloa goes we are looking at someone building virtually a new team. Therefore, logically but not necessarily certainly, that would suggest to me that we would be looking at an experienced English League manager who knows the Leagues well and can recruit players. To get many foreign players and just hope that they all gel would be risky . If so, Clement might not be the one anyway even though he has experience in England some time ago. (If this post appears twice my apologies but something is a bit wrong with the site. It said 'Comment accepted' but nothing appeared.)[/p][/quote]Agree Claude, if Leo goes then that's three big players for us gone, my guess the club will settle at around £7 million, good business in my view. Also agree regarding an experienced british manager to hit the ground running, McKay would be my choice.[/p][/quote]McKay has already stated he's not interested ! Keep up at the back ! Asleep in Dorset
  • Score: 0

11:18am Tue 27 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

If you want him you have to pay us well over the odds, Leicester.

Bloom will regard him as not for sale. Fair play to us for pushing for big money as we'd need lots of cash should we need to replace him.

If you look at what Bloom has done so far, he has managed to get a fee for Barnes when he was running down his contract, has got an excellent price for Liam Bridcutt (4.5 million) and has also played hardball with regard to a fee for Buckley. We've only fallen down regards some other contracts running down but that is where he has tried to persuade a player to stay e.g. TK and MU. All in all, Bloom is a tough negotiator so I'm confident if we absolutely have to sell Leo or Buckley, we will get a very good price for each.
If you want him you have to pay us well over the odds, Leicester. Bloom will regard him as not for sale. Fair play to us for pushing for big money as we'd need lots of cash should we need to replace him. If you look at what Bloom has done so far, he has managed to get a fee for Barnes when he was running down his contract, has got an excellent price for Liam Bridcutt (4.5 million) and has also played hardball with regard to a fee for Buckley. We've only fallen down regards some other contracts running down but that is where he has tried to persuade a player to stay e.g. TK and MU. All in all, Bloom is a tough negotiator so I'm confident if we absolutely have to sell Leo or Buckley, we will get a very good price for each. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 9

11:18am Tue 27 May 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Neville wrote:
If we can get 5m plus then he will go.Reading article about Derby and they are already trying to re sign there loaners similar to other Championship clubs and within next few weeks will have their settled side ready for pre season and the start of season.
Looking at the betting odds etc there are not many Uk candidates that play the Spanish style which is now in doctrines throughout our teams,the person also needs to be academy knowledgeable and of the candidates Hoddle would seem to fit that bill,especially with his connections with Spanish academy.
The disruption caused by Managers leaving is immense,support staff,medical staff,goalkeeping coach,analyst team etc etc.
TB hopefully will get this sorted by end of week and to be honest I don,t think anyone has clue who will be the next manager.
Really hoped we would get Ward signed quickly,but he will move onto Pl I fear.
The fans really do need some optimism now, no news stories of substance and nothing from TB and PB.
In fairness, there was a gentle update from PB on Sunday.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: If we can get 5m plus then he will go.Reading article about Derby and they are already trying to re sign there loaners similar to other Championship clubs and within next few weeks will have their settled side ready for pre season and the start of season. Looking at the betting odds etc there are not many Uk candidates that play the Spanish style which is now in doctrines throughout our teams,the person also needs to be academy knowledgeable and of the candidates Hoddle would seem to fit that bill,especially with his connections with Spanish academy. The disruption caused by Managers leaving is immense,support staff,medical staff,goalkeeping coach,analyst team etc etc. TB hopefully will get this sorted by end of week and to be honest I don,t think anyone has clue who will be the next manager. Really hoped we would get Ward signed quickly,but he will move onto Pl I fear. The fans really do need some optimism now, no news stories of substance and nothing from TB and PB.[/p][/quote]In fairness, there was a gentle update from PB on Sunday. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 4

11:18am Tue 27 May 14

Eltel1983 says...

All interesting speculation - why do we not let TB do his job and not criticise too much - are you all from Eastbourne and have limited recall? He saved the club, pumped in hard earned gambling money to create a wonderful stadium, employed two of the best managers we have had in 50 years I've been watching, which got us to the playoffs twice in what must be one of the most competitive leagues in the world.
Mrs Bloom.
There I've broken my first rule of today
All interesting speculation - why do we not let TB do his job and not criticise too much - are you all from Eastbourne and have limited recall? He saved the club, pumped in hard earned gambling money to create a wonderful stadium, employed two of the best managers we have had in 50 years I've been watching, which got us to the playoffs twice in what must be one of the most competitive leagues in the world. Mrs Bloom. There I've broken my first rule of today Eltel1983
  • Score: 8

11:18am Tue 27 May 14

Uckfield Seagull says...

Dont know about you but I am getting sick of reading who we are going to sell next, to be honest, I am a very nervous Brighton fan, it needs sorting as at the moment just appears we are losing everyone,
Dont know about you but I am getting sick of reading who we are going to sell next, to be honest, I am a very nervous Brighton fan, it needs sorting as at the moment just appears we are losing everyone, Uckfield Seagull
  • Score: -4

11:19am Tue 27 May 14

Baldseagull says...

I think they may switch their attention to Glenn Murray if we are asking for £10M, I hope they do.
I think they may switch their attention to Glenn Murray if we are asking for £10M, I hope they do. Baldseagull
  • Score: 3

11:23am Tue 27 May 14

Asleep in Dorset says...

leonrobichaud wrote:
This is getting ridiculous. How can we be expected to keep these players if we haven't even got a manager or a sniff of a manager. It seems to me that we will lose more than we gain this summer. How do we fix this?

Employ a coach who players and fans respect: Someone like Mowbry or Hughton may have good CVs but look at their track record. Bouncing between clubs with reckless abandon because they can't find a place to stick. That speaks volumes about a managers commitment and drive but also his character. Looking at the candidates there are a few out there that would do the job we need doing. Who we will eventually hire is a mystery but we need someone who has passion and is a proven winner in their football career. Some of these are left field but I'll accept the pellters that come my way.

Zola- Is he a respected figure in English football? would he tick both the boxes? Does he have the "connections" that a lot of posters on here seem to value? Yes to all three. Will he come? Probably not, it seems back room politics played a part in him leaving Watford and some perceive the meddling behind the scenes as a reason why some managers are leaving the Albion well alone.

Phil Brown- He has been here and done it before, look what he did with Hull in the space of a year from relegation candidates to premiership club. He has personality and fire in his belly. Would he be such a bad choice? Not sure about half time team talks in front of the crowd, but made for a fun MOTD that week.

Tim Sherwood- seems to be the one the majority of fans want as with Brown he has personality and fire. He would light a spark under the club. But how far would it go and would he see out the project before jumping ship to a team in the premiership if he is initially successful. He strikes me as the type who would look to further his own career first. Be careful what you wish for is my opinion.

Glen Hoddle- What did he actually ever do wrong from a managerial point of view? Disability gaffe aside, I think he would be able to do much the same sort of job as "the wally with the brolly" has at Derby this year. He is a good manger, but it may take a lot to get him back into the English game.

Mark Warburton- How many times did Brentford lose with him in charge? He just won promotion, his team played good football with a mixture of youth and experience. Sounds like Brighton may be his perfect storm of a club. Would he leave Brentford? Not sure but isn't he worth a look? I would be happy with Mr Warburton on the bench.

Although this is all speculation it is clear we need an appointment soon or players like Ulloa will not have anyone to look to when making decisions on their future and why stay on board a ship without a rudder when there could possibly be one going to a better destination willing to pick you up.
agree with your sentiment, but TB has to appoint someone with charisma, proven track record and above all, to keep the attendances at the 27,000 mark. Who that is, I don't know as it's not down to me to recruit him. What I do know is that my attendance depends a lot on who is appointed. Not too worried about players going tbh , that happens regardless, heads will get turned.
[quote][p][bold]leonrobichaud[/bold] wrote: This is getting ridiculous. How can we be expected to keep these players if we haven't even got a manager or a sniff of a manager. It seems to me that we will lose more than we gain this summer. How do we fix this? Employ a coach who players and fans respect: Someone like Mowbry or Hughton may have good CVs but look at their track record. Bouncing between clubs with reckless abandon because they can't find a place to stick. That speaks volumes about a managers commitment and drive but also his character. Looking at the candidates there are a few out there that would do the job we need doing. Who we will eventually hire is a mystery but we need someone who has passion and is a proven winner in their football career. Some of these are left field but I'll accept the pellters that come my way. Zola- Is he a respected figure in English football? would he tick both the boxes? Does he have the "connections" that a lot of posters on here seem to value? Yes to all three. Will he come? Probably not, it seems back room politics played a part in him leaving Watford and some perceive the meddling behind the scenes as a reason why some managers are leaving the Albion well alone. Phil Brown- He has been here and done it before, look what he did with Hull in the space of a year from relegation candidates to premiership club. He has personality and fire in his belly. Would he be such a bad choice? Not sure about half time team talks in front of the crowd, but made for a fun MOTD that week. Tim Sherwood- seems to be the one the majority of fans want as with Brown he has personality and fire. He would light a spark under the club. But how far would it go and would he see out the project before jumping ship to a team in the premiership if he is initially successful. He strikes me as the type who would look to further his own career first. Be careful what you wish for is my opinion. Glen Hoddle- What did he actually ever do wrong from a managerial point of view? Disability gaffe aside, I think he would be able to do much the same sort of job as "the wally with the brolly" has at Derby this year. He is a good manger, but it may take a lot to get him back into the English game. Mark Warburton- How many times did Brentford lose with him in charge? He just won promotion, his team played good football with a mixture of youth and experience. Sounds like Brighton may be his perfect storm of a club. Would he leave Brentford? Not sure but isn't he worth a look? I would be happy with Mr Warburton on the bench. Although this is all speculation it is clear we need an appointment soon or players like Ulloa will not have anyone to look to when making decisions on their future and why stay on board a ship without a rudder when there could possibly be one going to a better destination willing to pick you up.[/p][/quote]agree with your sentiment, but TB has to appoint someone with charisma, proven track record and above all, to keep the attendances at the 27,000 mark. Who that is, I don't know as it's not down to me to recruit him. What I do know is that my attendance depends a lot on who is appointed. Not too worried about players going tbh , that happens regardless, heads will get turned. Asleep in Dorset
  • Score: -9

11:32am Tue 27 May 14

Claude Back says...

Shaftesbury Seagull wrote:
Goals scored during the play-offs by Zamora, Revell (2) and Cox. Automatic promotions for Hammond (Leicester) and Barnes (Burnley). All ex Albion. Just a thought!
Perhaps that is what TB meant when he said the plan was to get the players into the Premiership within five years....just not all at the same time! ;-)
[quote][p][bold]Shaftesbury Seagull[/bold] wrote: Goals scored during the play-offs by Zamora, Revell (2) and Cox. Automatic promotions for Hammond (Leicester) and Barnes (Burnley). All ex Albion. Just a thought![/p][/quote]Perhaps that is what TB meant when he said the plan was to get the players into the Premiership within five years....just not all at the same time! ;-) Claude Back
  • Score: 18

11:32am Tue 27 May 14

Baldseagull says...

Uckfield Seagull wrote:
Dont know about you but I am getting sick of reading who we are going to sell next, to be honest, I am a very nervous Brighton fan, it needs sorting as at the moment just appears we are losing everyone,
Don't worry, when we have a squad of players that no other side is interested in is the time to worry.
[quote][p][bold]Uckfield Seagull[/bold] wrote: Dont know about you but I am getting sick of reading who we are going to sell next, to be honest, I am a very nervous Brighton fan, it needs sorting as at the moment just appears we are losing everyone,[/p][/quote]Don't worry, when we have a squad of players that no other side is interested in is the time to worry. Baldseagull
  • Score: 8

11:32am Tue 27 May 14

pte says...

How much can we get for PB or DB?
How much can we get for PB or DB? pte
  • Score: -6

11:34am Tue 27 May 14

mark by the sea says...

Baldseagull wrote:
I think they may switch their attention to Glenn Murray if we are asking for £10M, I hope they do.
I think your find Murray would jump at the chance of coming here, palace are happy for him to go as pullis builds for next year, ulloa will go for 6-7 million , not bad profit of 4-5 million over 18 months, pity Gus never got his way and van dyke was not signed! Funny how players signed by Gus we can now sell for a profit, even sick note we could have cashed in on in January , ( something I think we will regret not doing! ) I just wonder if we can comply with FFP by being a selling club? Had we signed grabban , we would be looking at a 2 million profit if the 3 million price tag is correct .
I am pretty sure the jousting over ulloa will come between the silly offer of 3 million and the silly price of 10 million, what is important is we don't over play it and Leicester go else where.. I believe ulloa wants premiership football and wages . Something that is not going to happen this coming summer unless a manager performs a miracle.
[quote][p][bold]Baldseagull[/bold] wrote: I think they may switch their attention to Glenn Murray if we are asking for £10M, I hope they do.[/p][/quote]I think your find Murray would jump at the chance of coming here, palace are happy for him to go as pullis builds for next year, ulloa will go for 6-7 million , not bad profit of 4-5 million over 18 months, pity Gus never got his way and van dyke was not signed! Funny how players signed by Gus we can now sell for a profit, even sick note we could have cashed in on in January , ( something I think we will regret not doing! ) I just wonder if we can comply with FFP by being a selling club? Had we signed grabban , we would be looking at a 2 million profit if the 3 million price tag is correct . I am pretty sure the jousting over ulloa will come between the silly offer of 3 million and the silly price of 10 million, what is important is we don't over play it and Leicester go else where.. I believe ulloa wants premiership football and wages . Something that is not going to happen this coming summer unless a manager performs a miracle. mark by the sea
  • Score: 5

11:59am Tue 27 May 14

tug509 says...

Pearson 3m ,i wouldn`t like your bloody nerve in my tooth ,jog on !.
Pearson 3m ,i wouldn`t like your bloody nerve in my tooth ,jog on !. tug509
  • Score: 6

12:05pm Tue 27 May 14

PressBoxTeaBoy says...

Wont be long now. As soon as the price reaches £5m the serious negotiating will start.

A better deal would be with QPR, we will send Ulloa to Harry and take £3m plus Bobby Zamora in return.
Wont be long now. As soon as the price reaches £5m the serious negotiating will start. A better deal would be with QPR, we will send Ulloa to Harry and take £3m plus Bobby Zamora in return. PressBoxTeaBoy
  • Score: -2

12:08pm Tue 27 May 14

AlfieT says...

Asleep in Dorset wrote:
AlfieT wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
If Ulloa goes we are looking at someone building virtually a new team. Therefore, logically but not necessarily certainly, that would suggest to me that we would be looking at an experienced English League manager who knows the Leagues well and can recruit players. To get many foreign players and just hope that they all gel would be risky . If so, Clement might not be the one anyway even though he has experience in England some time ago.

(If this post appears twice my apologies but something is a bit wrong with the site. It said 'Comment accepted' but nothing appeared.)
Agree Claude, if Leo goes then that's three big players for us gone, my guess the club will settle at around £7 million, good business in my view. Also agree regarding an experienced british manager to hit the ground running, McKay would be my choice.
McKay has already stated he's not interested ! Keep up at the back !
Would you like me to type slower for you, I said he would be my choice, nothing about his interest or not in the job,comprende?
[quote][p][bold]Asleep in Dorset[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: If Ulloa goes we are looking at someone building virtually a new team. Therefore, logically but not necessarily certainly, that would suggest to me that we would be looking at an experienced English League manager who knows the Leagues well and can recruit players. To get many foreign players and just hope that they all gel would be risky . If so, Clement might not be the one anyway even though he has experience in England some time ago. (If this post appears twice my apologies but something is a bit wrong with the site. It said 'Comment accepted' but nothing appeared.)[/p][/quote]Agree Claude, if Leo goes then that's three big players for us gone, my guess the club will settle at around £7 million, good business in my view. Also agree regarding an experienced british manager to hit the ground running, McKay would be my choice.[/p][/quote]McKay has already stated he's not interested ! Keep up at the back ![/p][/quote]Would you like me to type slower for you, I said he would be my choice, nothing about his interest or not in the job,comprende? AlfieT
  • Score: 6

12:17pm Tue 27 May 14

wardfan says...

How about Nigel Farage, he's doing a great job at UKIP United.
How about Nigel Farage, he's doing a great job at UKIP United. wardfan
  • Score: -3

12:17pm Tue 27 May 14

dave from bexill says...

Claude Back wrote:
Shaftesbury Seagull wrote:
Goals scored during the play-offs by Zamora, Revell (2) and Cox. Automatic promotions for Hammond (Leicester) and Barnes (Burnley). All ex Albion. Just a thought!
Perhaps that is what TB meant when he said the plan was to get the players into the Premiership within five years....just not all at the same time! ;-)
Keep them coming. Cheers up what is a miserable day outside
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaftesbury Seagull[/bold] wrote: Goals scored during the play-offs by Zamora, Revell (2) and Cox. Automatic promotions for Hammond (Leicester) and Barnes (Burnley). All ex Albion. Just a thought![/p][/quote]Perhaps that is what TB meant when he said the plan was to get the players into the Premiership within five years....just not all at the same time! ;-)[/p][/quote]Keep them coming. Cheers up what is a miserable day outside dave from bexill
  • Score: 7

12:20pm Tue 27 May 14

wardfan says...

wardfan wrote:
How about Nigel Farage, he's doing a great job at UKIP United.
Sorry I forgot this was about building a team/
[quote][p][bold]wardfan[/bold] wrote: How about Nigel Farage, he's doing a great job at UKIP United.[/p][/quote]Sorry I forgot this was about building a team/ wardfan
  • Score: -1

12:32pm Tue 27 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

wardfan wrote:
How about Nigel Farage, he's doing a great job at UKIP United.
He'd be great if you wanted a team full of Brits.
[quote][p][bold]wardfan[/bold] wrote: How about Nigel Farage, he's doing a great job at UKIP United.[/p][/quote]He'd be great if you wanted a team full of Brits. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 7

12:47pm Tue 27 May 14

brighton bluenose says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
If you want him you have to pay us well over the odds, Leicester.

Bloom will regard him as not for sale. Fair play to us for pushing for big money as we'd need lots of cash should we need to replace him.

If you look at what Bloom has done so far, he has managed to get a fee for Barnes when he was running down his contract, has got an excellent price for Liam Bridcutt (4.5 million) and has also played hardball with regard to a fee for Buckley. We've only fallen down regards some other contracts running down but that is where he has tried to persuade a player to stay e.g. TK and MU. All in all, Bloom is a tough negotiator so I'm confident if we absolutely have to sell Leo or Buckley, we will get a very good price for each.
Bridcutt went for £2.5 million not the figure you suggest - and about which Poyet quite rightly said that he had got a 'bargain'!!
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: If you want him you have to pay us well over the odds, Leicester. Bloom will regard him as not for sale. Fair play to us for pushing for big money as we'd need lots of cash should we need to replace him. If you look at what Bloom has done so far, he has managed to get a fee for Barnes when he was running down his contract, has got an excellent price for Liam Bridcutt (4.5 million) and has also played hardball with regard to a fee for Buckley. We've only fallen down regards some other contracts running down but that is where he has tried to persuade a player to stay e.g. TK and MU. All in all, Bloom is a tough negotiator so I'm confident if we absolutely have to sell Leo or Buckley, we will get a very good price for each.[/p][/quote]Bridcutt went for £2.5 million not the figure you suggest - and about which Poyet quite rightly said that he had got a 'bargain'!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 3

12:52pm Tue 27 May 14

Withdean-er says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
If you want him you have to pay us well over the odds, Leicester.

Bloom will regard him as not for sale. Fair play to us for pushing for big money as we'd need lots of cash should we need to replace him.

If you look at what Bloom has done so far, he has managed to get a fee for Barnes when he was running down his contract, has got an excellent price for Liam Bridcutt (4.5 million) and has also played hardball with regard to a fee for Buckley. We've only fallen down regards some other contracts running down but that is where he has tried to persuade a player to stay e.g. TK and MU. All in all, Bloom is a tough negotiator so I'm confident if we absolutely have to sell Leo or Buckley, we will get a very good price for each.
Or not let the Barnes contract get so close to finality in the first place.

Important not to get too excited about cash inflows and a brilliant businessman. We might become a poor-mans Spuds, with Levy praised for getting great money on sales, but buying poor replacements, having a fan-base of very miserable discontents, and with rivals always grabbing the silverware and CL places. Football isn't just about the cash in - team success and playing style is vital too.
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: If you want him you have to pay us well over the odds, Leicester. Bloom will regard him as not for sale. Fair play to us for pushing for big money as we'd need lots of cash should we need to replace him. If you look at what Bloom has done so far, he has managed to get a fee for Barnes when he was running down his contract, has got an excellent price for Liam Bridcutt (4.5 million) and has also played hardball with regard to a fee for Buckley. We've only fallen down regards some other contracts running down but that is where he has tried to persuade a player to stay e.g. TK and MU. All in all, Bloom is a tough negotiator so I'm confident if we absolutely have to sell Leo or Buckley, we will get a very good price for each.[/p][/quote]Or not let the Barnes contract get so close to finality in the first place. Important not to get too excited about cash inflows and a brilliant businessman. We might become a poor-mans Spuds, with Levy praised for getting great money on sales, but buying poor replacements, having a fan-base of very miserable discontents, and with rivals always grabbing the silverware and CL places. Football isn't just about the cash in - team success and playing style is vital too. Withdean-er
  • Score: 4

1:16pm Tue 27 May 14

Far gull says...

Oh How we could do with some good Albion news. Another big departure imminent !! not unexpected when it happens but so many ex albion players and managers! are going to be in prem next season now? Very disappointing however you view it that it is not us!!
To my mind next manager now could make or break us for years.
Having championed Hoddle see others are now too ,but have since had it from Spurs contacts in the club that he was objectionable behind the scenes ,so i have cooled my interest in him.(Difficult this running a club lark ;-) )
Am all for our youngsters but feel whoever comes in will need to attract a couple of 'box office' players to keep 'floating supporters'as much as devotees interested.???
To that end forget Mowbray,Hughton and alike.
Recent ex-player types or Steve Clarke/ Paul Clement may be more suitable. Very difficult call the more you think about it though.
Actually i do have so sympathy with TB ,his investments need and deserve someone with vision and passion above the money motivation intially.
Oh How we could do with some good Albion news. Another big departure imminent !! not unexpected when it happens but so many ex albion players and managers! are going to be in prem next season now? Very disappointing however you view it that it is not us!! To my mind next manager now could make or break us for years. Having championed Hoddle see others are now too ,but have since had it from Spurs contacts in the club that he was objectionable behind the scenes ,so i have cooled my interest in him.(Difficult this running a club lark ;-) ) Am all for our youngsters but feel whoever comes in will need to attract a couple of 'box office' players to keep 'floating supporters'as much as devotees interested.??? To that end forget Mowbray,Hughton and alike. Recent ex-player types or Steve Clarke/ Paul Clement may be more suitable. Very difficult call the more you think about it though. Actually i do have so sympathy with TB ,his investments need and deserve someone with vision and passion above the money motivation intially. Far gull
  • Score: -3

1:18pm Tue 27 May 14

Conelli98 says...

Phil Neville and Ging Lennon are holding talks with hierarchy over next 24hrs!!
Phil Neville and Ging Lennon are holding talks with hierarchy over next 24hrs!! Conelli98
  • Score: -6

1:28pm Tue 27 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

If we were Peterborough or Palace we'd be getting £10 for him, so keep bidding, Nige.
If we were Peterborough or Palace we'd be getting £10 for him, so keep bidding, Nige. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 2

1:40pm Tue 27 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

Not sure why some might think that closer to 10 million is not the right price. If Leicester buy him and his goals keeps them in the prem, what price those goals? What value would you put on the goals Leo will score for us over the next two seasons, the goals that might get us promoted?
We can buy a replacement should Leo go, and we may only spend a third or half of the price we want for Leo, but how much will Leicester have to spend on a different player if they don't land Ulloa, closer to 10 million?

The, 'right,' price for Ulloa should not be calculated on what his goals mean to Brighton, it's what they mean to the club that buys him that counts, that's where his value lies, and in the prem, each goal can be worth several milions.

Don't forget the simple math, every million above 5 is closer to 10, the way the Argus puts it just sounds more dramatic.
Not sure why some might think that closer to 10 million is not the right price. If Leicester buy him and his goals keeps them in the prem, what price those goals? What value would you put on the goals Leo will score for us over the next two seasons, the goals that might get us promoted? We can buy a replacement should Leo go, and we may only spend a third or half of the price we want for Leo, but how much will Leicester have to spend on a different player if they don't land Ulloa, closer to 10 million? The, 'right,' price for Ulloa should not be calculated on what his goals mean to Brighton, it's what they mean to the club that buys him that counts, that's where his value lies, and in the prem, each goal can be worth several milions. Don't forget the simple math, every million above 5 is closer to 10, the way the Argus puts it just sounds more dramatic. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

1:53pm Tue 27 May 14

mark by the sea says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
If we were Peterborough or Palace we'd be getting £10 for him, so keep bidding, Nige.
Sorry Arnie I thought you said there was no substance to Leicester bidding for ulloa? Or was it because I said in January the head scout was at the Amex ?
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: If we were Peterborough or Palace we'd be getting £10 for him, so keep bidding, Nige.[/p][/quote]Sorry Arnie I thought you said there was no substance to Leicester bidding for ulloa? Or was it because I said in January the head scout was at the Amex ? mark by the sea
  • Score: -1

2:16pm Tue 27 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
If we were Peterborough or Palace we'd be getting £10 for him, so keep bidding, Nige.
Sorry Arnie I thought you said there was no substance to Leicester bidding for ulloa? Or was it because I said in January the head scout was at the Amex ?
There were loads of scouts at the club in January (as there always are), and not just looking at Ulloa either. Well done for spotting one amongst many.

But still you keep trying to pick arguments with me. I'm trying to ignore you, please stop trying to start a war. We've just got rid of Freeloaders again, don't try to take his unwanted place. No-one wants us bickering, so end of discussion.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: If we were Peterborough or Palace we'd be getting £10 for him, so keep bidding, Nige.[/p][/quote]Sorry Arnie I thought you said there was no substance to Leicester bidding for ulloa? Or was it because I said in January the head scout was at the Amex ?[/p][/quote]There were loads of scouts at the club in January (as there always are), and not just looking at Ulloa either. Well done for spotting one amongst many. But still you keep trying to pick arguments with me. I'm trying to ignore you, please stop trying to start a war. We've just got rid of Freeloaders again, don't try to take his unwanted place. No-one wants us bickering, so end of discussion. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 4

2:19pm Tue 27 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
If we were Peterborough or Palace we'd be getting £10 for him, so keep bidding, Nige.
Sorry Arnie I thought you said there was no substance to Leicester bidding for ulloa? Or was it because I said in January the head scout was at the Amex ?
why do you always want to echo what you have said in the past, you are getting to sound like Freeloader, 'I was right yet again,' 'I am 100% right,'
it comes across very, school boyish. Your comments have value and merit, well for the most part they do, you don't need to look for confirmation of what you have said before, self praise is worth what.............
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: If we were Peterborough or Palace we'd be getting £10 for him, so keep bidding, Nige.[/p][/quote]Sorry Arnie I thought you said there was no substance to Leicester bidding for ulloa? Or was it because I said in January the head scout was at the Amex ?[/p][/quote]why do you always want to echo what you have said in the past, you are getting to sound like Freeloader, 'I was right yet again,' 'I am 100% right,' it comes across very, school boyish. Your comments have value and merit, well for the most part they do, you don't need to look for confirmation of what you have said before, self praise is worth what............. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

2:41pm Tue 27 May 14

mark by the sea says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
If we were Peterborough or Palace we'd be getting £10 for him, so keep bidding, Nige.
Sorry Arnie I thought you said there was no substance to Leicester bidding for ulloa? Or was it because I said in January the head scout was at the Amex ?
There were loads of scouts at the club in January (as there always are), and not just looking at Ulloa either. Well done for spotting one amongst many.

But still you keep trying to pick arguments with me. I'm trying to ignore you, please stop trying to start a war. We've just got rid of Freeloaders again, don't try to take his unwanted place. No-one wants us bickering, so end of discussion.
I am not talking about lots of scouts, but Steve Walsh who I was introduced to, I made that statement in January and you have constantly belittled that!
I also said 7 million was mentioned as a release clause , again you said I had made that one up!
You now seem to even deny I said it at all,
As for your regular comments Arnie your simply playing to the sheep on here.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: If we were Peterborough or Palace we'd be getting £10 for him, so keep bidding, Nige.[/p][/quote]Sorry Arnie I thought you said there was no substance to Leicester bidding for ulloa? Or was it because I said in January the head scout was at the Amex ?[/p][/quote]There were loads of scouts at the club in January (as there always are), and not just looking at Ulloa either. Well done for spotting one amongst many. But still you keep trying to pick arguments with me. I'm trying to ignore you, please stop trying to start a war. We've just got rid of Freeloaders again, don't try to take his unwanted place. No-one wants us bickering, so end of discussion.[/p][/quote]I am not talking about lots of scouts, but Steve Walsh who I was introduced to, I made that statement in January and you have constantly belittled that! I also said 7 million was mentioned as a release clause , again you said I had made that one up! You now seem to even deny I said it at all, As for your regular comments Arnie your simply playing to the sheep on here. mark by the sea
  • Score: 1

2:53pm Tue 27 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Uckfield Seagull wrote:
Dont know about you but I am getting sick of reading who we are going to sell next, to be honest, I am a very nervous Brighton fan, it needs sorting as at the moment just appears we are losing everyone,
We're hardly losing everyone. We have let some players go and Upson has not signed a contract extension. We're not at panic stations yet.

I agree it is a little unsettling but it's very early days. If we are still in this position in 2-3 weeks then I'll start worrying, but for now I trust the guys in charge are doing what needs to be done. After all, do we want quick actions or the right ones?
[quote][p][bold]Uckfield Seagull[/bold] wrote: Dont know about you but I am getting sick of reading who we are going to sell next, to be honest, I am a very nervous Brighton fan, it needs sorting as at the moment just appears we are losing everyone,[/p][/quote]We're hardly losing everyone. We have let some players go and Upson has not signed a contract extension. We're not at panic stations yet. I agree it is a little unsettling but it's very early days. If we are still in this position in 2-3 weeks then I'll start worrying, but for now I trust the guys in charge are doing what needs to be done. After all, do we want quick actions or the right ones? Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: -1

3:07pm Tue 27 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

Well we knocked back the Ulloa bid and now it seems that Clement has knocked back our bid, West Brom's too.

Hughton could be the guy.
Well we knocked back the Ulloa bid and now it seems that Clement has knocked back our bid, West Brom's too. Hughton could be the guy. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -3

3:12pm Tue 27 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Well we knocked back the Ulloa bid and now it seems that Clement has knocked back our bid, West Brom's too.

Hughton could be the guy.
Interesting. It could've been argued that winning the Champions League would be the perfect time to say adios. What more is there to win as a second in command?

Still, there are plenty more fish in the sea. There's no point trying to second guess who the cub will appoint, so my guess of Hughton probably rules him out.

I'd LOVE to see a list of who has applied/been approached, even though that will never happen.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Well we knocked back the Ulloa bid and now it seems that Clement has knocked back our bid, West Brom's too. Hughton could be the guy.[/p][/quote]Interesting. It could've been argued that winning the Champions League would be the perfect time to say adios. What more is there to win as a second in command? Still, there are plenty more fish in the sea. There's no point trying to second guess who the cub will appoint, so my guess of Hughton probably rules him out. I'd LOVE to see a list of who has applied/been approached, even though that will never happen. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 4

3:13pm Tue 27 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

leonrobichaud wrote:
This is getting ridiculous. How can we be expected to keep these players if we haven't even got a manager or a sniff of a manager. It seems to me that we will lose more than we gain this summer. How do we fix this?

Employ a coach who players and fans respect: Someone like Mowbry or Hughton may have good CVs but look at their track record. Bouncing between clubs with reckless abandon because they can't find a place to stick. That speaks volumes about a managers commitment and drive but also his character. Looking at the candidates there are a few out there that would do the job we need doing. Who we will eventually hire is a mystery but we need someone who has passion and is a proven winner in their football career. Some of these are left field but I'll accept the pellters that come my way.

Zola- Is he a respected figure in English football? would he tick both the boxes? Does he have the "connections" that a lot of posters on here seem to value? Yes to all three. Will he come? Probably not, it seems back room politics played a part in him leaving Watford and some perceive the meddling behind the scenes as a reason why some managers are leaving the Albion well alone.

Phil Brown- He has been here and done it before, look what he did with Hull in the space of a year from relegation candidates to premiership club. He has personality and fire in his belly. Would he be such a bad choice? Not sure about half time team talks in front of the crowd, but made for a fun MOTD that week.

Tim Sherwood- seems to be the one the majority of fans want as with Brown he has personality and fire. He would light a spark under the club. But how far would it go and would he see out the project before jumping ship to a team in the premiership if he is initially successful. He strikes me as the type who would look to further his own career first. Be careful what you wish for is my opinion.

Glen Hoddle- What did he actually ever do wrong from a managerial point of view? Disability gaffe aside, I think he would be able to do much the same sort of job as "the wally with the brolly" has at Derby this year. He is a good manger, but it may take a lot to get him back into the English game.

Mark Warburton- How many times did Brentford lose with him in charge? He just won promotion, his team played good football with a mixture of youth and experience. Sounds like Brighton may be his perfect storm of a club. Would he leave Brentford? Not sure but isn't he worth a look? I would be happy with Mr Warburton on the bench.

Although this is all speculation it is clear we need an appointment soon or players like Ulloa will not have anyone to look to when making decisions on their future and why stay on board a ship without a rudder when there could possibly be one going to a better destination willing to pick you up.
Good post. Don't agree about Phil Brown tbh and if Zola and. Gus have chatted he may be put off (he has apparently "distanced himself" anyway but the others are all good shouts.

Regarding Mark Walkerton, I did in fact mention him in my original list of possible candidates when Oscar's resignation became known. At the time I mentioned that Brentford's owner and chairman Matthew Benham is an arch business rival of Tony Bloom. They don't get on whatsoever! As such, it may unfortunately be impossible to prise him away from Griffin Park due to the nature of their professional "relationship".

However, if we were able I would be very happy. I would also be very, very happy if we managed to get Uwe Rosler from Wigan but that would be equally difficult for different reasons.

Assuming these two are unattainable, Tim Sherwood, Steve Clarke, Sami Hyppia, Malkay Mackay, Paul Clement, Gianfranco Zola and Glenn Hoddle would all be promising possibilities for varying reasons. There might also be some potential in Chris Hughton, even though most on here aren't keen. The jury would certainly be out with regards to him.
[quote][p][bold]leonrobichaud[/bold] wrote: This is getting ridiculous. How can we be expected to keep these players if we haven't even got a manager or a sniff of a manager. It seems to me that we will lose more than we gain this summer. How do we fix this? Employ a coach who players and fans respect: Someone like Mowbry or Hughton may have good CVs but look at their track record. Bouncing between clubs with reckless abandon because they can't find a place to stick. That speaks volumes about a managers commitment and drive but also his character. Looking at the candidates there are a few out there that would do the job we need doing. Who we will eventually hire is a mystery but we need someone who has passion and is a proven winner in their football career. Some of these are left field but I'll accept the pellters that come my way. Zola- Is he a respected figure in English football? would he tick both the boxes? Does he have the "connections" that a lot of posters on here seem to value? Yes to all three. Will he come? Probably not, it seems back room politics played a part in him leaving Watford and some perceive the meddling behind the scenes as a reason why some managers are leaving the Albion well alone. Phil Brown- He has been here and done it before, look what he did with Hull in the space of a year from relegation candidates to premiership club. He has personality and fire in his belly. Would he be such a bad choice? Not sure about half time team talks in front of the crowd, but made for a fun MOTD that week. Tim Sherwood- seems to be the one the majority of fans want as with Brown he has personality and fire. He would light a spark under the club. But how far would it go and would he see out the project before jumping ship to a team in the premiership if he is initially successful. He strikes me as the type who would look to further his own career first. Be careful what you wish for is my opinion. Glen Hoddle- What did he actually ever do wrong from a managerial point of view? Disability gaffe aside, I think he would be able to do much the same sort of job as "the wally with the brolly" has at Derby this year. He is a good manger, but it may take a lot to get him back into the English game. Mark Warburton- How many times did Brentford lose with him in charge? He just won promotion, his team played good football with a mixture of youth and experience. Sounds like Brighton may be his perfect storm of a club. Would he leave Brentford? Not sure but isn't he worth a look? I would be happy with Mr Warburton on the bench. Although this is all speculation it is clear we need an appointment soon or players like Ulloa will not have anyone to look to when making decisions on their future and why stay on board a ship without a rudder when there could possibly be one going to a better destination willing to pick you up.[/p][/quote]Good post. Don't agree about Phil Brown tbh and if Zola and. Gus have chatted he may be put off (he has apparently "distanced himself" anyway but the others are all good shouts. Regarding Mark Walkerton, I did in fact mention him in my original list of possible candidates when Oscar's resignation became known. At the time I mentioned that Brentford's owner and chairman Matthew Benham is an arch business rival of Tony Bloom. They don't get on whatsoever! As such, it may unfortunately be impossible to prise him away from Griffin Park due to the nature of their professional "relationship". However, if we were able I would be very happy. I would also be very, very happy if we managed to get Uwe Rosler from Wigan but that would be equally difficult for different reasons. Assuming these two are unattainable, Tim Sherwood, Steve Clarke, Sami Hyppia, Malkay Mackay, Paul Clement, Gianfranco Zola and Glenn Hoddle would all be promising possibilities for varying reasons. There might also be some potential in Chris Hughton, even though most on here aren't keen. The jury would certainly be out with regards to him. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

3:16pm Tue 27 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Well we knocked back the Ulloa bid and now it seems that Clement has knocked back our bid, West Brom's too.

Hughton could be the guy.
Interesting. It could've been argued that winning the Champions League would be the perfect time to say adios. What more is there to win as a second in command?

Still, there are plenty more fish in the sea. There's no point trying to second guess who the cub will appoint, so my guess of Hughton probably rules him out.

I'd LOVE to see a list of who has applied/been approached, even though that will never happen.
maybe Clement fancies taking up the reins of a spanish club rather than come to England.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Well we knocked back the Ulloa bid and now it seems that Clement has knocked back our bid, West Brom's too. Hughton could be the guy.[/p][/quote]Interesting. It could've been argued that winning the Champions League would be the perfect time to say adios. What more is there to win as a second in command? Still, there are plenty more fish in the sea. There's no point trying to second guess who the cub will appoint, so my guess of Hughton probably rules him out. I'd LOVE to see a list of who has applied/been approached, even though that will never happen.[/p][/quote]maybe Clement fancies taking up the reins of a spanish club rather than come to England. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

3:17pm Tue 27 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Well we knocked back the Ulloa bid and now it seems that Clement has knocked back our bid, West Brom's too.

Hughton could be the guy.
Interesting. It could've been argued that winning the Champions League would be the perfect time to say adios. What more is there to win as a second in command?

Still, there are plenty more fish in the sea. There's no point trying to second guess who the cub will appoint, so my guess of Hughton probably rules him out.

I'd LOVE to see a list of who has applied/been approached, even though that will never happen.
maybe Clement fancies taking up the reins of a spanish club rather than come to England.
He may, although his comments suggest that if he were to manage in his own right it would probably be in England.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Well we knocked back the Ulloa bid and now it seems that Clement has knocked back our bid, West Brom's too. Hughton could be the guy.[/p][/quote]Interesting. It could've been argued that winning the Champions League would be the perfect time to say adios. What more is there to win as a second in command? Still, there are plenty more fish in the sea. There's no point trying to second guess who the cub will appoint, so my guess of Hughton probably rules him out. I'd LOVE to see a list of who has applied/been approached, even though that will never happen.[/p][/quote]maybe Clement fancies taking up the reins of a spanish club rather than come to England.[/p][/quote]He may, although his comments suggest that if he were to manage in his own right it would probably be in England. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 2

4:50pm Tue 27 May 14

Albion In Staffs says...

What seems to have been overlooked here is that this story was initially run in the Daily Mail five days ago and The Argus itself, added it into their "Albion Transfer Talk" column on the same day.
They've simply turned last week's "Leicester have failed" story into an "Albion have knocked back" and there's little or nothing here that suggests this is the result of a new, improved enquiry. It's last week's re-write on a slow day.
The only 'new' element that could even remotely justify its re-appearance is that the Argus now offers some feint 'understanding' that we want £10m but nothing to substantiate a figure that may have been plucked from thin air to add freshness.
I really think people should slow down because the story suggests its a new development, but when you consider the facts on show... it isn't.
What seems to have been overlooked here is that this story was initially run in the Daily Mail five days ago and The Argus itself, added it into their "Albion Transfer Talk" column on the same day. They've simply turned last week's "Leicester have failed" story into an "Albion have knocked back" and there's little or nothing here that suggests this is the result of a new, improved enquiry. It's last week's re-write on a slow day. The only 'new' element that could even remotely justify its re-appearance is that the Argus now offers some feint 'understanding' that we want £10m but nothing to substantiate a figure that may have been plucked from thin air to add freshness. I really think people should slow down because the story suggests its a new development, but when you consider the facts on show... it isn't. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: -1

5:03pm Tue 27 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
Captain Haddock wrote: If you want him you have to pay us well over the odds, Leicester. Bloom will regard him as not for sale. Fair play to us for pushing for big money as we'd need lots of cash should we need to replace him. If you look at what Bloom has done so far, he has managed to get a fee for Barnes when he was running down his contract, has got an excellent price for Liam Bridcutt (4.5 million) and has also played hardball with regard to a fee for Buckley. We've only fallen down regards some other contracts running down but that is where he has tried to persuade a player to stay e.g. TK and MU. All in all, Bloom is a tough negotiator so I'm confident if we absolutely have to sell Leo or Buckley, we will get a very good price for each.
Bridcutt went for £2.5 million not the figure you suggest - and about which Poyet quite rightly said that he had got a 'bargain'!!
I assure you he didn't. Yes, that was the figure misquoted in the press but was inaccurate. They've paid / committed to £4.25m so far with the rest activated by their PL survival.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: If you want him you have to pay us well over the odds, Leicester. Bloom will regard him as not for sale. Fair play to us for pushing for big money as we'd need lots of cash should we need to replace him. If you look at what Bloom has done so far, he has managed to get a fee for Barnes when he was running down his contract, has got an excellent price for Liam Bridcutt (4.5 million) and has also played hardball with regard to a fee for Buckley. We've only fallen down regards some other contracts running down but that is where he has tried to persuade a player to stay e.g. TK and MU. All in all, Bloom is a tough negotiator so I'm confident if we absolutely have to sell Leo or Buckley, we will get a very good price for each.[/p][/quote]Bridcutt went for £2.5 million not the figure you suggest - and about which Poyet quite rightly said that he had got a 'bargain'!![/p][/quote]I assure you he didn't. Yes, that was the figure misquoted in the press but was inaccurate. They've paid / committed to £4.25m so far with the rest activated by their PL survival. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 5

5:06pm Tue 27 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

Withdean-er wrote:
Captain Haddock wrote: If you want him you have to pay us well over the odds, Leicester. Bloom will regard him as not for sale. Fair play to us for pushing for big money as we'd need lots of cash should we need to replace him. If you look at what Bloom has done so far, he has managed to get a fee for Barnes when he was running down his contract, has got an excellent price for Liam Bridcutt (4.5 million) and has also played hardball with regard to a fee for Buckley. We've only fallen down regards some other contracts running down but that is where he has tried to persuade a player to stay e.g. TK and MU. All in all, Bloom is a tough negotiator so I'm confident if we absolutely have to sell Leo or Buckley, we will get a very good price for each.
Or not let the Barnes contract get so close to finality in the first place. Important not to get too excited about cash inflows and a brilliant businessman. We might become a poor-mans Spuds, with Levy praised for getting great money on sales, but buying poor replacements, having a fan-base of very miserable discontents, and with rivals always grabbing the silverware and CL places. Football isn't just about the cash in - team success and playing style is vital too.
True true, but it's handy to get decent money in in the first place to then have available to spend (hopefully wisely).
[quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: If you want him you have to pay us well over the odds, Leicester. Bloom will regard him as not for sale. Fair play to us for pushing for big money as we'd need lots of cash should we need to replace him. If you look at what Bloom has done so far, he has managed to get a fee for Barnes when he was running down his contract, has got an excellent price for Liam Bridcutt (4.5 million) and has also played hardball with regard to a fee for Buckley. We've only fallen down regards some other contracts running down but that is where he has tried to persuade a player to stay e.g. TK and MU. All in all, Bloom is a tough negotiator so I'm confident if we absolutely have to sell Leo or Buckley, we will get a very good price for each.[/p][/quote]Or not let the Barnes contract get so close to finality in the first place. Important not to get too excited about cash inflows and a brilliant businessman. We might become a poor-mans Spuds, with Levy praised for getting great money on sales, but buying poor replacements, having a fan-base of very miserable discontents, and with rivals always grabbing the silverware and CL places. Football isn't just about the cash in - team success and playing style is vital too.[/p][/quote]True true, but it's handy to get decent money in in the first place to then have available to spend (hopefully wisely). Captain Haddock
  • Score: 2

5:13pm Tue 27 May 14

tug509 says...

Conelli98 wrote:
Phil Neville and Ging Lennon are holding talks with hierarchy over next 24hrs!!
I would love to believe we will end up with someone like Phil Neville ,i know he would only be interested in Man Utd at some level ,but his attitude and experience would take a good Championship side like us up no problem imo . Ah well....UTA
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Phil Neville and Ging Lennon are holding talks with hierarchy over next 24hrs!![/p][/quote]I would love to believe we will end up with someone like Phil Neville ,i know he would only be interested in Man Utd at some level ,but his attitude and experience would take a good Championship side like us up no problem imo . Ah well....UTA tug509
  • Score: -4

5:56pm Tue 27 May 14

mark by the sea says...

So spurs sack sherwood , and appoint pochettino without asking for candidates to apply! Clement for saints looks likely to me.
So spurs sack sherwood , and appoint pochettino without asking for candidates to apply! Clement for saints looks likely to me. mark by the sea
  • Score: 3

6:00pm Tue 27 May 14

ballantrrae says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
Captain Haddock wrote:
If you want him you have to pay us well over the odds, Leicester.

Bloom will regard him as not for sale. Fair play to us for pushing for big money as we'd need lots of cash should we need to replace him.

If you look at what Bloom has done so far, he has managed to get a fee for Barnes when he was running down his contract, has got an excellent price for Liam Bridcutt (4.5 million) and has also played hardball with regard to a fee for Buckley. We've only fallen down regards some other contracts running down but that is where he has tried to persuade a player to stay e.g. TK and MU. All in all, Bloom is a tough negotiator so I'm confident if we absolutely have to sell Leo or Buckley, we will get a very good price for each.
Bridcutt went for £2.5 million not the figure you suggest - and about which Poyet quite rightly said that he had got a 'bargain'!!
Brighton bluenose the figure you quote of £2.5 mil is what was being quoted at the time of the transfer by various papers including the Daily Telegraph. About 2 weeks ago that same paper quoted £4.5 mil in an article about Poyet and Sunderland after they avoided relegation. I was surprised by the difference but then heard that the initial figure was apparently £3.5 mil rising to £4.5 mil with add-ons. I have to say that IF we got a total of £4.5 mil it seems a brilliant deal by the club. Of course if it was £2.5 mil then Sunderland got the better of the deal..
Talking of Bridcutt reminds me that I and I think probably most fans want players playing for the club who positively want to be at the Amex. Perhaps I am being naïve. So if Ulloa wants to go and given that we get £6.5 - £7 million for him then it might be better to let him go - especially if it is to a PL club. I should add that I am not aware that Ulloa actually wants to move on but I can understand payers wanting to play at the highest level they are capable of.
I would make much the same comment about the appointment of a new Manager. Whoever TB appoints I hope and trust that it is someone who is really going to commit to the Albion long term and perceives the position of Brighton Manger as one of the best in England.
The new Manager has a rare opportunity to help create something very special. Most of what is needed is in place (great stadium, state of the art training/academy centre, 27,000 fan base etc). All that the new man needs to do is o build a team to reflect all that.
Fortunately for him the club has to add another 9/10 players to the squad. This means the new Manager almost has a clean sheet scenario and can fashion the squad to his requirements and in his image.
Some interesting decisions to be made by TB& Co in the near future. UTA.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: If you want him you have to pay us well over the odds, Leicester. Bloom will regard him as not for sale. Fair play to us for pushing for big money as we'd need lots of cash should we need to replace him. If you look at what Bloom has done so far, he has managed to get a fee for Barnes when he was running down his contract, has got an excellent price for Liam Bridcutt (4.5 million) and has also played hardball with regard to a fee for Buckley. We've only fallen down regards some other contracts running down but that is where he has tried to persuade a player to stay e.g. TK and MU. All in all, Bloom is a tough negotiator so I'm confident if we absolutely have to sell Leo or Buckley, we will get a very good price for each.[/p][/quote]Bridcutt went for £2.5 million not the figure you suggest - and about which Poyet quite rightly said that he had got a 'bargain'!![/p][/quote]Brighton bluenose the figure you quote of £2.5 mil is what was being quoted at the time of the transfer by various papers including the Daily Telegraph. About 2 weeks ago that same paper quoted £4.5 mil in an article about Poyet and Sunderland after they avoided relegation. I was surprised by the difference but then heard that the initial figure was apparently £3.5 mil rising to £4.5 mil with add-ons. I have to say that IF we got a total of £4.5 mil it seems a brilliant deal by the club. Of course if it was £2.5 mil then Sunderland got the better of the deal.. Talking of Bridcutt reminds me that I and I think probably most fans want players playing for the club who positively want to be at the Amex. Perhaps I am being naïve. So if Ulloa wants to go and given that we get £6.5 - £7 million for him then it might be better to let him go - especially if it is to a PL club. I should add that I am not aware that Ulloa actually wants to move on but I can understand payers wanting to play at the highest level they are capable of. I would make much the same comment about the appointment of a new Manager. Whoever TB appoints I hope and trust that it is someone who is really going to commit to the Albion long term and perceives the position of Brighton Manger as one of the best in England. The new Manager has a rare opportunity to help create something very special. Most of what is needed is in place (great stadium, state of the art training/academy centre, 27,000 fan base etc). All that the new man needs to do is o build a team to reflect all that. Fortunately for him the club has to add another 9/10 players to the squad. This means the new Manager almost has a clean sheet scenario and can fashion the squad to his requirements and in his image. Some interesting decisions to be made by TB& Co in the near future. UTA. ballantrrae
  • Score: 0

6:01pm Tue 27 May 14

Conelli98 says...

mark by the sea wrote:
So spurs sack sherwood , and appoint pochettino without asking for candidates to apply! Clement for saints looks likely to me.
Malky will breeze into that job!
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: So spurs sack sherwood , and appoint pochettino without asking for candidates to apply! Clement for saints looks likely to me.[/p][/quote]Malky will breeze into that job! Conelli98
  • Score: 2

6:08pm Tue 27 May 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

Withdean-er wrote:
The close to £10m will never happen, Ulloa is not worth that, but it shows that we are willing to let him go - the 'every player has his price cliche'. If BHA could get a substantial fee, let it happen, but only once we have our targets 99% ready to sign. The fee, plus the war-chest from the Barnes & Bridcutt sales (less Stephens fee), must surely finance a much-needed substantial rebuilding which is much due - more pace, power and early/mid-20's aged players in the squad. The club have also successfully slashed payroll costs from this time last year if you think about who has departed.
I understand what people are saying about the worth of our Leo and I think it's worth remembering that the only person who decides what anyone is worth is what the person is willing to pay which is acceptable to the seller. That is his true worth!

Who would have said Virgo was a million pound player - only Celtic who offered the million and had the offer accepted!

Stranger things have happened! Personally I really hope he stays as not only is he a valued player but he seems a top notch guy as well! The type we need to build a club.
[quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: The close to £10m will never happen, Ulloa is not worth that, but it shows that we are willing to let him go - the 'every player has his price cliche'. If BHA could get a substantial fee, let it happen, but only once we have our targets 99% ready to sign. The fee, plus the war-chest from the Barnes & Bridcutt sales (less Stephens fee), must surely finance a much-needed substantial rebuilding which is much due - more pace, power and early/mid-20's aged players in the squad. The club have also successfully slashed payroll costs from this time last year if you think about who has departed.[/p][/quote]I understand what people are saying about the worth of our Leo and I think it's worth remembering that the only person who decides what anyone is worth is what the person is willing to pay which is acceptable to the seller. That is his true worth! Who would have said Virgo was a million pound player - only Celtic who offered the million and had the offer accepted! Stranger things have happened! Personally I really hope he stays as not only is he a valued player but he seems a top notch guy as well! The type we need to build a club. WisdomSpeaks
  • Score: 2

6:33pm Tue 27 May 14

Withdean-er says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
Captain Haddock wrote: If you want him you have to pay us well over the odds, Leicester. Bloom will regard him as not for sale. Fair play to us for pushing for big money as we'd need lots of cash should we need to replace him. If you look at what Bloom has done so far, he has managed to get a fee for Barnes when he was running down his contract, has got an excellent price for Liam Bridcutt (4.5 million) and has also played hardball with regard to a fee for Buckley. We've only fallen down regards some other contracts running down but that is where he has tried to persuade a player to stay e.g. TK and MU. All in all, Bloom is a tough negotiator so I'm confident if we absolutely have to sell Leo or Buckley, we will get a very good price for each.
Or not let the Barnes contract get so close to finality in the first place. Important not to get too excited about cash inflows and a brilliant businessman. We might become a poor-mans Spuds, with Levy praised for getting great money on sales, but buying poor replacements, having a fan-base of very miserable discontents, and with rivals always grabbing the silverware and CL places. Football isn't just about the cash in - team success and playing style is vital too.
True true, but it's handy to get decent money in in the first place to then have available to spend (hopefully wisely).
SO LONG AS TB & THE BURKE SPEND IT ALL ON PLAYERS. We know very closely the money received for Barnes & Bridcutt, and the media will give us a close enough amount for Ulloa, then deduct the Stephens fee. Will TB & the Burke invest that in new player transfer fees this Summer?

Also factor in the wages saved as at say post-Ulloa, compared to c. April 2013 - the club are not now paying for Poyet, Taricco, Oatway, Bridcutt, Vicente, Orlandi, Lopez, ElAbd, Barnes, Hoskins, Upson, Bridge, Kuszchak, Painter, Brezovan, Hammond, Harley & Dicker. That's a hell of saved cash outflows.

Looking forward to some heavy investment in quality this Summer now!
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: If you want him you have to pay us well over the odds, Leicester. Bloom will regard him as not for sale. Fair play to us for pushing for big money as we'd need lots of cash should we need to replace him. If you look at what Bloom has done so far, he has managed to get a fee for Barnes when he was running down his contract, has got an excellent price for Liam Bridcutt (4.5 million) and has also played hardball with regard to a fee for Buckley. We've only fallen down regards some other contracts running down but that is where he has tried to persuade a player to stay e.g. TK and MU. All in all, Bloom is a tough negotiator so I'm confident if we absolutely have to sell Leo or Buckley, we will get a very good price for each.[/p][/quote]Or not let the Barnes contract get so close to finality in the first place. Important not to get too excited about cash inflows and a brilliant businessman. We might become a poor-mans Spuds, with Levy praised for getting great money on sales, but buying poor replacements, having a fan-base of very miserable discontents, and with rivals always grabbing the silverware and CL places. Football isn't just about the cash in - team success and playing style is vital too.[/p][/quote]True true, but it's handy to get decent money in in the first place to then have available to spend (hopefully wisely).[/p][/quote]SO LONG AS TB & THE BURKE SPEND IT ALL ON PLAYERS. We know very closely the money received for Barnes & Bridcutt, and the media will give us a close enough amount for Ulloa, then deduct the Stephens fee. Will TB & the Burke invest that in new player transfer fees this Summer? Also factor in the wages saved as at say post-Ulloa, compared to c. April 2013 - the club are not now paying for Poyet, Taricco, Oatway, Bridcutt, Vicente, Orlandi, Lopez, ElAbd, Barnes, Hoskins, Upson, Bridge, Kuszchak, Painter, Brezovan, Hammond, Harley & Dicker. That's a hell of saved cash outflows. Looking forward to some heavy investment in quality this Summer now! Withdean-er
  • Score: 1

7:05pm Tue 27 May 14

brighton bluenose says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
Captain Haddock wrote: If you want him you have to pay us well over the odds, Leicester. Bloom will regard him as not for sale. Fair play to us for pushing for big money as we'd need lots of cash should we need to replace him. If you look at what Bloom has done so far, he has managed to get a fee for Barnes when he was running down his contract, has got an excellent price for Liam Bridcutt (4.5 million) and has also played hardball with regard to a fee for Buckley. We've only fallen down regards some other contracts running down but that is where he has tried to persuade a player to stay e.g. TK and MU. All in all, Bloom is a tough negotiator so I'm confident if we absolutely have to sell Leo or Buckley, we will get a very good price for each.
Bridcutt went for £2.5 million not the figure you suggest - and about which Poyet quite rightly said that he had got a 'bargain'!!
I assure you he didn't. Yes, that was the figure misquoted in the press but was inaccurate. They've paid / committed to £4.25m so far with the rest activated by their PL survival.
Fair play Cap'n!
I doff my cap to both yourself and Ballantrae further down this thread - and indeed to Tony Bloom himself - if this is indeed the case!
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: If you want him you have to pay us well over the odds, Leicester. Bloom will regard him as not for sale. Fair play to us for pushing for big money as we'd need lots of cash should we need to replace him. If you look at what Bloom has done so far, he has managed to get a fee for Barnes when he was running down his contract, has got an excellent price for Liam Bridcutt (4.5 million) and has also played hardball with regard to a fee for Buckley. We've only fallen down regards some other contracts running down but that is where he has tried to persuade a player to stay e.g. TK and MU. All in all, Bloom is a tough negotiator so I'm confident if we absolutely have to sell Leo or Buckley, we will get a very good price for each.[/p][/quote]Bridcutt went for £2.5 million not the figure you suggest - and about which Poyet quite rightly said that he had got a 'bargain'!![/p][/quote]I assure you he didn't. Yes, that was the figure misquoted in the press but was inaccurate. They've paid / committed to £4.25m so far with the rest activated by their PL survival.[/p][/quote]Fair play Cap'n! I doff my cap to both yourself and Ballantrae further down this thread - and indeed to Tony Bloom himself - if this is indeed the case! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 0

7:13pm Tue 27 May 14

tug509 says...

tug509 wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Phil Neville and Ging Lennon are holding talks with hierarchy over next 24hrs!!
I would love to believe we will end up with someone like Phil Neville ,i know he would only be interested in Man Utd at some level ,but his attitude and experience would take a good Championship side like us up no problem imo . Ah well....UTA
I cant believe what i typed ,i had a senile blind drunk dropped on my head moment ,of course i meant i would love to see GARY Neville as manager !!....phew just keep taking the pills tug ..!
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Phil Neville and Ging Lennon are holding talks with hierarchy over next 24hrs!![/p][/quote]I would love to believe we will end up with someone like Phil Neville ,i know he would only be interested in Man Utd at some level ,but his attitude and experience would take a good Championship side like us up no problem imo . Ah well....UTA[/p][/quote]I cant believe what i typed ,i had a senile blind drunk dropped on my head moment ,of course i meant i would love to see GARY Neville as manager !!....phew just keep taking the pills tug ..! tug509
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11:53pm Tue 27 May 14

ballantrrae says...

WisdomSpeaks wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
The close to £10m will never happen, Ulloa is not worth that, but it shows that we are willing to let him go - the 'every player has his price cliche'. If BHA could get a substantial fee, let it happen, but only once we have our targets 99% ready to sign. The fee, plus the war-chest from the Barnes & Bridcutt sales (less Stephens fee), must surely finance a much-needed substantial rebuilding which is much due - more pace, power and early/mid-20's aged players in the squad. The club have also successfully slashed payroll costs from this time last year if you think about who has departed.
I understand what people are saying about the worth of our Leo and I think it's worth remembering that the only person who decides what anyone is worth is what the person is willing to pay which is acceptable to the seller. That is his true worth!

Who would have said Virgo was a million pound player - only Celtic who offered the million and had the offer accepted!

Stranger things have happened! Personally I really hope he stays as not only is he a valued player but he seems a top notch guy as well! The type we need to build a club.
A well made point WisdomSpeaks re Virgo although I should point out that the fee Celtic payed was in fact £1.5 million which Adam confirmed at a meeting in London recently.
[quote][p][bold]WisdomSpeaks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: The close to £10m will never happen, Ulloa is not worth that, but it shows that we are willing to let him go - the 'every player has his price cliche'. If BHA could get a substantial fee, let it happen, but only once we have our targets 99% ready to sign. The fee, plus the war-chest from the Barnes & Bridcutt sales (less Stephens fee), must surely finance a much-needed substantial rebuilding which is much due - more pace, power and early/mid-20's aged players in the squad. The club have also successfully slashed payroll costs from this time last year if you think about who has departed.[/p][/quote]I understand what people are saying about the worth of our Leo and I think it's worth remembering that the only person who decides what anyone is worth is what the person is willing to pay which is acceptable to the seller. That is his true worth! Who would have said Virgo was a million pound player - only Celtic who offered the million and had the offer accepted! Stranger things have happened! Personally I really hope he stays as not only is he a valued player but he seems a top notch guy as well! The type we need to build a club.[/p][/quote]A well made point WisdomSpeaks re Virgo although I should point out that the fee Celtic payed was in fact £1.5 million which Adam confirmed at a meeting in London recently. ballantrrae
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12:05am Wed 28 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
Captain Haddock wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
Captain Haddock wrote: If you want him you have to pay us well over the odds, Leicester. Bloom will regard him as not for sale. Fair play to us for pushing for big money as we'd need lots of cash should we need to replace him. If you look at what Bloom has done so far, he has managed to get a fee for Barnes when he was running down his contract, has got an excellent price for Liam Bridcutt (4.5 million) and has also played hardball with regard to a fee for Buckley. We've only fallen down regards some other contracts running down but that is where he has tried to persuade a player to stay e.g. TK and MU. All in all, Bloom is a tough negotiator so I'm confident if we absolutely have to sell Leo or Buckley, we will get a very good price for each.
Bridcutt went for £2.5 million not the figure you suggest - and about which Poyet quite rightly said that he had got a 'bargain'!!
I assure you he didn't. Yes, that was the figure misquoted in the press but was inaccurate. They've paid / committed to £4.25m so far with the rest activated by their PL survival.
Fair play Cap'n! I doff my cap to both yourself and Ballantrae further down this thread - and indeed to Tony Bloom himself - if this is indeed the case!
Cheers Bluenose. I have a friend who gets sporadic but spot on info from a very well-placed contact. Glad to say this info is pretty sound.

Referring to Withdean-er's reply to me, yes let's hope most (or all if safely poss!) of the net money accrued from recent sales is re-invested (WISELY!) in the squad re-build.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: If you want him you have to pay us well over the odds, Leicester. Bloom will regard him as not for sale. Fair play to us for pushing for big money as we'd need lots of cash should we need to replace him. If you look at what Bloom has done so far, he has managed to get a fee for Barnes when he was running down his contract, has got an excellent price for Liam Bridcutt (4.5 million) and has also played hardball with regard to a fee for Buckley. We've only fallen down regards some other contracts running down but that is where he has tried to persuade a player to stay e.g. TK and MU. All in all, Bloom is a tough negotiator so I'm confident if we absolutely have to sell Leo or Buckley, we will get a very good price for each.[/p][/quote]Bridcutt went for £2.5 million not the figure you suggest - and about which Poyet quite rightly said that he had got a 'bargain'!![/p][/quote]I assure you he didn't. Yes, that was the figure misquoted in the press but was inaccurate. They've paid / committed to £4.25m so far with the rest activated by their PL survival.[/p][/quote]Fair play Cap'n! I doff my cap to both yourself and Ballantrae further down this thread - and indeed to Tony Bloom himself - if this is indeed the case![/p][/quote]Cheers Bluenose. I have a friend who gets sporadic but spot on info from a very well-placed contact. Glad to say this info is pretty sound. Referring to Withdean-er's reply to me, yes let's hope most (or all if safely poss!) of the net money accrued from recent sales is re-invested (WISELY!) in the squad re-build. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

12:08am Wed 28 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

ballantrrae wrote:
WisdomSpeaks wrote:
Withdean-er wrote: The close to £10m will never happen, Ulloa is not worth that, but it shows that we are willing to let him go - the 'every player has his price cliche'. If BHA could get a substantial fee, let it happen, but only once we have our targets 99% ready to sign. The fee, plus the war-chest from the Barnes & Bridcutt sales (less Stephens fee), must surely finance a much-needed substantial rebuilding which is much due - more pace, power and early/mid-20's aged players in the squad. The club have also successfully slashed payroll costs from this time last year if you think about who has departed.
I understand what people are saying about the worth of our Leo and I think it's worth remembering that the only person who decides what anyone is worth is what the person is willing to pay which is acceptable to the seller. That is his true worth! Who would have said Virgo was a million pound player - only Celtic who offered the million and had the offer accepted! Stranger things have happened! Personally I really hope he stays as not only is he a valued player but he seems a top notch guy as well! The type we need to build a club.
A well made point WisdomSpeaks re Virgo although I should point out that the fee Celtic payed was in fact £1.5 million which Adam confirmed at a meeting in London recently.
Haha! Very recently in fact....about three hours ago wasn't it, B?!!
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WisdomSpeaks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: The close to £10m will never happen, Ulloa is not worth that, but it shows that we are willing to let him go - the 'every player has his price cliche'. If BHA could get a substantial fee, let it happen, but only once we have our targets 99% ready to sign. The fee, plus the war-chest from the Barnes & Bridcutt sales (less Stephens fee), must surely finance a much-needed substantial rebuilding which is much due - more pace, power and early/mid-20's aged players in the squad. The club have also successfully slashed payroll costs from this time last year if you think about who has departed.[/p][/quote]I understand what people are saying about the worth of our Leo and I think it's worth remembering that the only person who decides what anyone is worth is what the person is willing to pay which is acceptable to the seller. That is his true worth! Who would have said Virgo was a million pound player - only Celtic who offered the million and had the offer accepted! Stranger things have happened! Personally I really hope he stays as not only is he a valued player but he seems a top notch guy as well! The type we need to build a club.[/p][/quote]A well made point WisdomSpeaks re Virgo although I should point out that the fee Celtic payed was in fact £1.5 million which Adam confirmed at a meeting in London recently.[/p][/quote]Haha! Very recently in fact....about three hours ago wasn't it, B?!! Captain Haddock
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7:44am Wed 4 Jun 14

MrHove says...

no way is ulloa a 10mil player, hes a good championship player but the premiership is a different gravy!.

I would take 4 mil plus wood, he can score from anywhere with both feet and his head.

Ulloa is not indespensible, he is a good player but i feel he can be replaced with the money spent wisely.

Im hoping the new management team are in by the weekend to get this re-building going, hoddle for me is still a great shout!
no way is ulloa a 10mil player, hes a good championship player but the premiership is a different gravy!. I would take 4 mil plus wood, he can score from anywhere with both feet and his head. Ulloa is not indespensible, he is a good player but i feel he can be replaced with the money spent wisely. Im hoping the new management team are in by the weekend to get this re-building going, hoddle for me is still a great shout! MrHove
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