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Albion fans told to rule out Remi as boss

The Argus: Remi Garde has been linked with Albion but The Argus has been told he is determined to take a year off from football Remi Garde has been linked with Albion but The Argus has been told he is determined to take a year off from football

Albion fans have been told to forget about Remi Garde becoming their club’s new manager.

The former Lyon boss was speculatively linked with the post as the Seagulls hunt a successor for Oscar Garcia.

Chairman Tony Bloom and chief executive Paul Barber continue to talk to candidates on what they term a high-calibre shortlist.

Long-time bookies’ favourite Tim Sherwood is believed to be among those who have been approached by Albion.

But The Argus have been told there is no way Garde will go back on plans to take a year off.

Darren Tulett, the Albion fan who presents football coverage for TV channel beINSPORTS in Paris, works closely with Garde, above.

He is adamant the former Arsenal midfielder who is currently on a family holiday, will not head to the Amex.

Tulett, who comes from Shoreham, said: “I spoke to Remi last week when he was on the show and there is no way he will be managing a team next season.

“He has quit Lyon after three stressful years.

“They are moving to a new stadium and have had to tighten their budget.

“He has done a really good job there and he will be an attractive proposition for a lot of clubs.

“He loves English football and has done ever since his time at Arsenal.

“He has developed a taste for management but not at the expense of his family life.

“Remi is a very strong-minded guy and he will take his year and come back refreshed.”

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5:25am Fri 30 May 14

twonk says...

Only the Argus thought he was an option.
Only the Argus thought he was an option. twonk
  • Score: 0

5:37am Fri 30 May 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

Lol had any Albion fans actually ruled him in? Classic 24 hour U turn by the Argus!

Be nice when we can have some real news, but I suspect we won't be hearing it here first!!

UTA!!
Lol had any Albion fans actually ruled him in? Classic 24 hour U turn by the Argus! Be nice when we can have some real news, but I suspect we won't be hearing it here first!! UTA!! Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 1

5:53am Fri 30 May 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Lol had any Albion fans actually ruled him in? Classic 24 hour U turn by the Argus!

Be nice when we can have some real news, but I suspect we won't be hearing it here first!!

UTA!!
By way of balance, the Argus actually only ran a story yesterday which reflected speculation in a national newspaper - and they said so.
They've now checked it out with what appears to be a reasonably credible source (although he could still be wrong) and have written a follow up.
The journalist may also have asked the club on the quiet if it reflected an accurate position and if they said yes, The Argus can print it with a degree of confidence, without the club having to officially comment.
In this case, I think it's entirel valid.
[quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: Lol had any Albion fans actually ruled him in? Classic 24 hour U turn by the Argus! Be nice when we can have some real news, but I suspect we won't be hearing it here first!! UTA!![/p][/quote]By way of balance, the Argus actually only ran a story yesterday which reflected speculation in a national newspaper - and they said so. They've now checked it out with what appears to be a reasonably credible source (although he could still be wrong) and have written a follow up. The journalist may also have asked the club on the quiet if it reflected an accurate position and if they said yes, The Argus can print it with a degree of confidence, without the club having to officially comment. In this case, I think it's entirel valid. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 14

6:21am Fri 30 May 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Lol had any Albion fans actually ruled him in? Classic 24 hour U turn by the Argus!

Be nice when we can have some real news, but I suspect we won't be hearing it here first!!

UTA!!
By way of balance, the Argus actually only ran a story yesterday which reflected speculation in a national newspaper - and they said so.
They've now checked it out with what appears to be a reasonably credible source (although he could still be wrong) and have written a follow up.
The journalist may also have asked the club on the quiet if it reflected an accurate position and if they said yes, The Argus can print it with a degree of confidence, without the club having to officially comment.
In this case, I think it's entirel valid.
Yes I see what you're saying Staffs and I take your point. Outside of journalism though it would be called repeating gossip without establishing facts first!!

UTA!!
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: Lol had any Albion fans actually ruled him in? Classic 24 hour U turn by the Argus! Be nice when we can have some real news, but I suspect we won't be hearing it here first!! UTA!![/p][/quote]By way of balance, the Argus actually only ran a story yesterday which reflected speculation in a national newspaper - and they said so. They've now checked it out with what appears to be a reasonably credible source (although he could still be wrong) and have written a follow up. The journalist may also have asked the club on the quiet if it reflected an accurate position and if they said yes, The Argus can print it with a degree of confidence, without the club having to officially comment. In this case, I think it's entirel valid.[/p][/quote]Yes I see what you're saying Staffs and I take your point. Outside of journalism though it would be called repeating gossip without establishing facts first!! UTA!! Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 1

6:33am Fri 30 May 14

AlfieT says...

The Championship is one of the toughest and most stressful leagues in football, not sure we need someone who heads for the hills when the heat is on. At least we now know that Sherwood has been interviewed, who's your money on guys?
The Championship is one of the toughest and most stressful leagues in football, not sure we need someone who heads for the hills when the heat is on. At least we now know that Sherwood has been interviewed, who's your money on guys? AlfieT
  • Score: 1

6:38am Fri 30 May 14

namgo49 says...

What an enormous relief. Hopefully Tim Sherwood appointed very soon. Big name because of his Tottenham experience and big personality who will tell it like it is. Don't want the anonymous Steve Clarke, Chris Hughton, Paul Clement, Tony Mowbray, all boring.
What an enormous relief. Hopefully Tim Sherwood appointed very soon. Big name because of his Tottenham experience and big personality who will tell it like it is. Don't want the anonymous Steve Clarke, Chris Hughton, Paul Clement, Tony Mowbray, all boring. namgo49
  • Score: 0

6:40am Fri 30 May 14

AlfieT says...

Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.
Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently. AlfieT
  • Score: -4

6:50am Fri 30 May 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Lol had any Albion fans actually ruled him in? Classic 24 hour U turn by the Argus!

Be nice when we can have some real news, but I suspect we won't be hearing it here first!!

UTA!!
By way of balance, the Argus actually only ran a story yesterday which reflected speculation in a national newspaper - and they said so.
They've now checked it out with what appears to be a reasonably credible source (although he could still be wrong) and have written a follow up.
The journalist may also have asked the club on the quiet if it reflected an accurate position and if they said yes, The Argus can print it with a degree of confidence, without the club having to officially comment.
In this case, I think it's entirel valid.
Yes I see what you're saying Staffs and I take your point. Outside of journalism though it would be called repeating gossip without establishing facts first!!

UTA!!
"Remi is a very strong minded guy....." The man reports. That would count against him if track record of our club is anything to go by! 27 days to go......Nathan Jones' feet getting more under the table by the day!
[quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: Lol had any Albion fans actually ruled him in? Classic 24 hour U turn by the Argus! Be nice when we can have some real news, but I suspect we won't be hearing it here first!! UTA!![/p][/quote]By way of balance, the Argus actually only ran a story yesterday which reflected speculation in a national newspaper - and they said so. They've now checked it out with what appears to be a reasonably credible source (although he could still be wrong) and have written a follow up. The journalist may also have asked the club on the quiet if it reflected an accurate position and if they said yes, The Argus can print it with a degree of confidence, without the club having to officially comment. In this case, I think it's entirel valid.[/p][/quote]Yes I see what you're saying Staffs and I take your point. Outside of journalism though it would be called repeating gossip without establishing facts first!! UTA!![/p][/quote]"Remi is a very strong minded guy....." The man reports. That would count against him if track record of our club is anything to go by! 27 days to go......Nathan Jones' feet getting more under the table by the day! WisdomSpeaks
  • Score: -11

6:57am Fri 30 May 14

namgo49 says...

AlfieT wrote:
Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.
Lambert to Liverpool for £4mill puts it in perspective. Top striker with proven goal scoring record at the highest level. The only thing is his age. I reckon LU will go for £5 mill absolute tops with maybe Chris Wood thrown in and fee reduced accordingly. That will get the head in the clouds lot on here screaming!!
[quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.[/p][/quote]Lambert to Liverpool for £4mill puts it in perspective. Top striker with proven goal scoring record at the highest level. The only thing is his age. I reckon LU will go for £5 mill absolute tops with maybe Chris Wood thrown in and fee reduced accordingly. That will get the head in the clouds lot on here screaming!! namgo49
  • Score: -5

7:03am Fri 30 May 14

namgo49 says...

AlfieT wrote:
Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.
Lambert to Liverpool for £4 mill puts it in to perspective. Top striker with proven record at the highest level. I reckon we will get £5 mill absolute tops for LU reduced if Chris Woods thrown in. That will get the head in the clouds lot on here screaming!!
[quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.[/p][/quote]Lambert to Liverpool for £4 mill puts it in to perspective. Top striker with proven record at the highest level. I reckon we will get £5 mill absolute tops for LU reduced if Chris Woods thrown in. That will get the head in the clouds lot on here screaming!! namgo49
  • Score: -8

7:10am Fri 30 May 14

AlfieT says...

namgo49 wrote:
AlfieT wrote:
Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.
Lambert to Liverpool for £4mill puts it in perspective. Top striker with proven goal scoring record at the highest level. The only thing is his age. I reckon LU will go for £5 mill absolute tops with maybe Chris Wood thrown in and fee reduced accordingly. That will get the head in the clouds lot on here screaming!!
Think your right, 5 mill may well see Leo go, 4 mill for a current international looks a bargain although time is not on his side, a couple of seasons at the top level, good luck to Lambert always rated him.
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.[/p][/quote]Lambert to Liverpool for £4mill puts it in perspective. Top striker with proven goal scoring record at the highest level. The only thing is his age. I reckon LU will go for £5 mill absolute tops with maybe Chris Wood thrown in and fee reduced accordingly. That will get the head in the clouds lot on here screaming!![/p][/quote]Think your right, 5 mill may well see Leo go, 4 mill for a current international looks a bargain although time is not on his side, a couple of seasons at the top level, good luck to Lambert always rated him. AlfieT
  • Score: -2

7:25am Fri 30 May 14

SonnyJim55 says...

From the revised betting odds this morning it does appear to be a 2 man race, either Sherwood or Clarke. Personally I would like to see TS, I would expect he would like to show what he can do after only 5 months at Spurs despite doing very well. Steve Clarke always seems a bit dour but definitely was harshly treated by WBA and if we were to appoint him I certainly would be happy enough with that...but would prefer TS.
From the revised betting odds this morning it does appear to be a 2 man race, either Sherwood or Clarke. Personally I would like to see TS, I would expect he would like to show what he can do after only 5 months at Spurs despite doing very well. Steve Clarke always seems a bit dour but definitely was harshly treated by WBA and if we were to appoint him I certainly would be happy enough with that...but would prefer TS. SonnyJim55
  • Score: 6

7:29am Fri 30 May 14

mark by the sea says...

AlfieT wrote:
namgo49 wrote:
AlfieT wrote:
Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.
Lambert to Liverpool for £4mill puts it in perspective. Top striker with proven goal scoring record at the highest level. The only thing is his age. I reckon LU will go for £5 mill absolute tops with maybe Chris Wood thrown in and fee reduced accordingly. That will get the head in the clouds lot on here screaming!!
Think your right, 5 mill may well see Leo go, 4 mill for a current international looks a bargain although time is not on his side, a couple of seasons at the top level, good luck to Lambert always rated him.
Reason they can sell him is they have Sam Gallagher coming through the system, 18 years old two footed 6.3" goal scorer, I was hoping the Albion would get him on a season loan,
Reason lambert stayed at saints for so long is they are now a settled premier league club, and they paid him top money even when in championship,
Saint are like the Albion a selling club, the difference is they bank ten million a season selling youth products,
Let's hope we don't bring coaching staff in on the cheap because it never works!
[quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.[/p][/quote]Lambert to Liverpool for £4mill puts it in perspective. Top striker with proven goal scoring record at the highest level. The only thing is his age. I reckon LU will go for £5 mill absolute tops with maybe Chris Wood thrown in and fee reduced accordingly. That will get the head in the clouds lot on here screaming!![/p][/quote]Think your right, 5 mill may well see Leo go, 4 mill for a current international looks a bargain although time is not on his side, a couple of seasons at the top level, good luck to Lambert always rated him.[/p][/quote]Reason they can sell him is they have Sam Gallagher coming through the system, 18 years old two footed 6.3" goal scorer, I was hoping the Albion would get him on a season loan, Reason lambert stayed at saints for so long is they are now a settled premier league club, and they paid him top money even when in championship, Saint are like the Albion a selling club, the difference is they bank ten million a season selling youth products, Let's hope we don't bring coaching staff in on the cheap because it never works! mark by the sea
  • Score: 4

7:35am Fri 30 May 14

East of CrawleyDown says...

namgo49 wrote:
AlfieT wrote:
Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.
Lambert to Liverpool for £4mill puts it in perspective. Top striker with proven goal scoring record at the highest level. The only thing is his age. I reckon LU will go for £5 mill absolute tops with maybe Chris Wood thrown in and fee reduced accordingly. That will get the head in the clouds lot on here screaming!!
Lambert is going for 8-10 million actually, so 5-6 million for Ulloa is more likely, enough to get us a decent replacement anyway.
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.[/p][/quote]Lambert to Liverpool for £4mill puts it in perspective. Top striker with proven goal scoring record at the highest level. The only thing is his age. I reckon LU will go for £5 mill absolute tops with maybe Chris Wood thrown in and fee reduced accordingly. That will get the head in the clouds lot on here screaming!![/p][/quote]Lambert is going for 8-10 million actually, so 5-6 million for Ulloa is more likely, enough to get us a decent replacement anyway. East of CrawleyDown
  • Score: 1

7:40am Fri 30 May 14

JeffLomer says...

namgo49 wrote:
What an enormous relief. Hopefully Tim Sherwood appointed very soon. Big name because of his Tottenham experience and big personality who will tell it like it is. Don't want the anonymous Steve Clarke, Chris Hughton, Paul Clement, Tony Mowbray, all boring.
How can you say there all boring except Sherwood, I think your find all the men being mentioned have far more experience than Sherwood in the game, he had five months in charge off a spurs team full off stars, if he becomes our manager and I don't mind if he does, let's see how he gets on a limited budget,
Up the Albion!!!!
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: What an enormous relief. Hopefully Tim Sherwood appointed very soon. Big name because of his Tottenham experience and big personality who will tell it like it is. Don't want the anonymous Steve Clarke, Chris Hughton, Paul Clement, Tony Mowbray, all boring.[/p][/quote]How can you say there all boring except Sherwood, I think your find all the men being mentioned have far more experience than Sherwood in the game, he had five months in charge off a spurs team full off stars, if he becomes our manager and I don't mind if he does, let's see how he gets on a limited budget, Up the Albion!!!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 4

7:43am Fri 30 May 14

when seagulls follow the trawler says...

Phil Neville on BBC Breakfast show this morning ; I am talking to a club at the moment, and they want me involved in their future. Will be sorted out when i get back from world cup ( working with the BBC - not playing ! ).
Phil Neville on BBC Breakfast show this morning ; I am talking to a club at the moment, and they want me involved in their future. Will be sorted out when i get back from world cup ( working with the BBC - not playing ! ). when seagulls follow the trawler
  • Score: -1

7:52am Fri 30 May 14

mark by the sea says...

JeffLomer wrote:
namgo49 wrote:
What an enormous relief. Hopefully Tim Sherwood appointed very soon. Big name because of his Tottenham experience and big personality who will tell it like it is. Don't want the anonymous Steve Clarke, Chris Hughton, Paul Clement, Tony Mowbray, all boring.
How can you say there all boring except Sherwood, I think your find all the men being mentioned have far more experience than Sherwood in the game, he had five months in charge off a spurs team full off stars, if he becomes our manager and I don't mind if he does, let's see how he gets on a limited budget,
Up the Albion!!!!
Morning jeff , sherwood brings his experience in coaching youth , he has his own team and is a passionate manager, guy wears his heart on his sleeve, I think OG watched games like a chess player, what may have been fascinating foe OG would have bored sherwood to death, I think sherwood wants football played for the fans.
While your correct in him being in charge for 5 months he altered system away from the holding midfielder , so he has his own ideas and is prepared to try out things .
The other thing about him is Ferdinand coaches dead ball situations for hours on the training pitch!
For those that attended the Amex on a regular basis will know just how poor we were last year in that dept.
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: What an enormous relief. Hopefully Tim Sherwood appointed very soon. Big name because of his Tottenham experience and big personality who will tell it like it is. Don't want the anonymous Steve Clarke, Chris Hughton, Paul Clement, Tony Mowbray, all boring.[/p][/quote]How can you say there all boring except Sherwood, I think your find all the men being mentioned have far more experience than Sherwood in the game, he had five months in charge off a spurs team full off stars, if he becomes our manager and I don't mind if he does, let's see how he gets on a limited budget, Up the Albion!!!![/p][/quote]Morning jeff , sherwood brings his experience in coaching youth , he has his own team and is a passionate manager, guy wears his heart on his sleeve, I think OG watched games like a chess player, what may have been fascinating foe OG would have bored sherwood to death, I think sherwood wants football played for the fans. While your correct in him being in charge for 5 months he altered system away from the holding midfielder , so he has his own ideas and is prepared to try out things . The other thing about him is Ferdinand coaches dead ball situations for hours on the training pitch! For those that attended the Amex on a regular basis will know just how poor we were last year in that dept. mark by the sea
  • Score: 10

7:56am Fri 30 May 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

when seagulls follow the trawler wrote:
Phil Neville on BBC Breakfast show this morning ; I am talking to a club at the moment, and they want me involved in their future. Will be sorted out when i get back from world cup ( working with the BBC - not playing ! ).
Sorry but if that's true Then I must have misheard because I thought Neville was saying that he would be joining Van Gaal at United in their back room team and that this would be sorted out when he returns from the World Cup.This was in response to a question from the BBC sports reporter re Man U and Van Gaal and Nevile said he would be talking to THE club (Man U) not
A club (Albion?). Sorry this is long winded and I stand corrected if I'm wrong!
[quote][p][bold]when seagulls follow the trawler[/bold] wrote: Phil Neville on BBC Breakfast show this morning ; I am talking to a club at the moment, and they want me involved in their future. Will be sorted out when i get back from world cup ( working with the BBC - not playing ! ).[/p][/quote]Sorry but if that's true Then I must have misheard because I thought Neville was saying that he would be joining Van Gaal at United in their back room team and that this would be sorted out when he returns from the World Cup.This was in response to a question from the BBC sports reporter re Man U and Van Gaal and Nevile said he would be talking to THE club (Man U) not A club (Albion?). Sorry this is long winded and I stand corrected if I'm wrong! SeagullOverSelsey
  • Score: 4

8:10am Fri 30 May 14

Albion In Staffs says...

SeagullOverSelsey wrote:
when seagulls follow the trawler wrote:
Phil Neville on BBC Breakfast show this morning ; I am talking to a club at the moment, and they want me involved in their future. Will be sorted out when i get back from world cup ( working with the BBC - not playing ! ).
Sorry but if that's true Then I must have misheard because I thought Neville was saying that he would be joining Van Gaal at United in their back room team and that this would be sorted out when he returns from the World Cup.This was in response to a question from the BBC sports reporter re Man U and Van Gaal and Nevile said he would be talking to THE club (Man U) not
A club (Albion?). Sorry this is long winded and I stand corrected if I'm wrong!
The World Cup lasts a month! No way would a prospective new club allow it to drag on that long! United it was.
[quote][p][bold]SeagullOverSelsey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]when seagulls follow the trawler[/bold] wrote: Phil Neville on BBC Breakfast show this morning ; I am talking to a club at the moment, and they want me involved in their future. Will be sorted out when i get back from world cup ( working with the BBC - not playing ! ).[/p][/quote]Sorry but if that's true Then I must have misheard because I thought Neville was saying that he would be joining Van Gaal at United in their back room team and that this would be sorted out when he returns from the World Cup.This was in response to a question from the BBC sports reporter re Man U and Van Gaal and Nevile said he would be talking to THE club (Man U) not A club (Albion?). Sorry this is long winded and I stand corrected if I'm wrong![/p][/quote]The World Cup lasts a month! No way would a prospective new club allow it to drag on that long! United it was. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 4

8:24am Fri 30 May 14

when seagulls follow the trawler says...

SeagullOverSelsey wrote:
when seagulls follow the trawler wrote:
Phil Neville on BBC Breakfast show this morning ; I am talking to a club at the moment, and they want me involved in their future. Will be sorted out when i get back from world cup ( working with the BBC - not playing ! ).
Sorry but if that's true Then I must have misheard because I thought Neville was saying that he would be joining Van Gaal at United in their back room team and that this would be sorted out when he returns from the World Cup.This was in response to a question from the BBC sports reporter re Man U and Van Gaal and Nevile said he would be talking to THE club (Man U) not
A club (Albion?). Sorry this is long winded and I stand corrected if I'm wrong!
Neville was responding to a direct question from one of the presenters - could well be Man Utd - it would have been helpful if he had said who the club was ........
If it us us, i really don't want to wait 6 weeks for his appointment to be confirmed - i couldn't handle the inevitable hysterical posts from others who will be beside themselves not knowing who the manager is, and how we are getting left behind while other clubs sign players, and how it is all Burke and Barber's fault , and so on !
[quote][p][bold]SeagullOverSelsey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]when seagulls follow the trawler[/bold] wrote: Phil Neville on BBC Breakfast show this morning ; I am talking to a club at the moment, and they want me involved in their future. Will be sorted out when i get back from world cup ( working with the BBC - not playing ! ).[/p][/quote]Sorry but if that's true Then I must have misheard because I thought Neville was saying that he would be joining Van Gaal at United in their back room team and that this would be sorted out when he returns from the World Cup.This was in response to a question from the BBC sports reporter re Man U and Van Gaal and Nevile said he would be talking to THE club (Man U) not A club (Albion?). Sorry this is long winded and I stand corrected if I'm wrong![/p][/quote]Neville was responding to a direct question from one of the presenters - could well be Man Utd - it would have been helpful if he had said who the club was ........ If it us us, i really don't want to wait 6 weeks for his appointment to be confirmed - i couldn't handle the inevitable hysterical posts from others who will be beside themselves not knowing who the manager is, and how we are getting left behind while other clubs sign players, and how it is all Burke and Barber's fault , and so on ! when seagulls follow the trawler
  • Score: -1

8:52am Fri 30 May 14

lmspike says...

Steve Clarke new manager of the Albion by tea time today.
Steve Clarke new manager of the Albion by tea time today. lmspike
  • Score: -6

9:00am Fri 30 May 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

So Remi Garde is out of the picture.
A couple of weeks away with the kids may help him change his mind.
UTA
So Remi Garde is out of the picture. A couple of weeks away with the kids may help him change his mind. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 4

9:06am Fri 30 May 14

Max Ripple says...

Oh well............ We move on.. Very slowly.
Oh well............ We move on.. Very slowly. Max Ripple
  • Score: 2

9:21am Fri 30 May 14

JeffLomer says...

mark by the sea wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
namgo49 wrote:
What an enormous relief. Hopefully Tim Sherwood appointed very soon. Big name because of his Tottenham experience and big personality who will tell it like it is. Don't want the anonymous Steve Clarke, Chris Hughton, Paul Clement, Tony Mowbray, all boring.
How can you say there all boring except Sherwood, I think your find all the men being mentioned have far more experience than Sherwood in the game, he had five months in charge off a spurs team full off stars, if he becomes our manager and I don't mind if he does, let's see how he gets on a limited budget,
Up the Albion!!!!
Morning jeff , sherwood brings his experience in coaching youth , he has his own team and is a passionate manager, guy wears his heart on his sleeve, I think OG watched games like a chess player, what may have been fascinating foe OG would have bored sherwood to death, I think sherwood wants football played for the fans.
While your correct in him being in charge for 5 months he altered system away from the holding midfielder , so he has his own ideas and is prepared to try out things .
The other thing about him is Ferdinand coaches dead ball situations for hours on the training pitch!
For those that attended the Amex on a regular basis will know just how poor we were last year in that dept.
Morning Mark, i have no problem with Sherwood coming in as our next manager, i was just replying to the above post quoting that he finds all the other guys boring, i would not mind being boring sitting in the Madrid dug out every other week, i agree Sherwood would be good for the youth set up, we need to bring the youngsters through from the accademy and the ds squad, with our limited budget, up the albion!!
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: What an enormous relief. Hopefully Tim Sherwood appointed very soon. Big name because of his Tottenham experience and big personality who will tell it like it is. Don't want the anonymous Steve Clarke, Chris Hughton, Paul Clement, Tony Mowbray, all boring.[/p][/quote]How can you say there all boring except Sherwood, I think your find all the men being mentioned have far more experience than Sherwood in the game, he had five months in charge off a spurs team full off stars, if he becomes our manager and I don't mind if he does, let's see how he gets on a limited budget, Up the Albion!!!![/p][/quote]Morning jeff , sherwood brings his experience in coaching youth , he has his own team and is a passionate manager, guy wears his heart on his sleeve, I think OG watched games like a chess player, what may have been fascinating foe OG would have bored sherwood to death, I think sherwood wants football played for the fans. While your correct in him being in charge for 5 months he altered system away from the holding midfielder , so he has his own ideas and is prepared to try out things . The other thing about him is Ferdinand coaches dead ball situations for hours on the training pitch! For those that attended the Amex on a regular basis will know just how poor we were last year in that dept.[/p][/quote]Morning Mark, i have no problem with Sherwood coming in as our next manager, i was just replying to the above post quoting that he finds all the other guys boring, i would not mind being boring sitting in the Madrid dug out every other week, i agree Sherwood would be good for the youth set up, we need to bring the youngsters through from the accademy and the ds squad, with our limited budget, up the albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: -1

9:24am Fri 30 May 14

Mr Farkenbus says...

See from the latest gossip we are in the mix for interest in Matty Fryatt alongside Forest and Sheff Wed and Wigan...could this be the replacement for Ulloa?
See from the latest gossip we are in the mix for interest in Matty Fryatt alongside Forest and Sheff Wed and Wigan...could this be the replacement for Ulloa? Mr Farkenbus
  • Score: 0

9:44am Fri 30 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

namgo49 wrote:
AlfieT wrote:
Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.
Lambert to Liverpool for £4mill puts it in perspective. Top striker with proven goal scoring record at the highest level. The only thing is his age. I reckon LU will go for £5 mill absolute tops with maybe Chris Wood thrown in and fee reduced accordingly. That will get the head in the clouds lot on here screaming!!
£4m seems a little low for Lambert but he is 32 (5 years older than Leo).

Both players have two years remaining on their contracts. I'd say that values Leo at about £5m/£5.5m. However, the Albion are determined not to lose their prime asset so if Leicester or anyone else want him they will have to pay through the nose and some!
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.[/p][/quote]Lambert to Liverpool for £4mill puts it in perspective. Top striker with proven goal scoring record at the highest level. The only thing is his age. I reckon LU will go for £5 mill absolute tops with maybe Chris Wood thrown in and fee reduced accordingly. That will get the head in the clouds lot on here screaming!![/p][/quote]£4m seems a little low for Lambert but he is 32 (5 years older than Leo). Both players have two years remaining on their contracts. I'd say that values Leo at about £5m/£5.5m. However, the Albion are determined not to lose their prime asset so if Leicester or anyone else want him they will have to pay through the nose and some! Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

9:58am Fri 30 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
namgo49 wrote:
AlfieT wrote:
Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.
Lambert to Liverpool for £4mill puts it in perspective. Top striker with proven goal scoring record at the highest level. The only thing is his age. I reckon LU will go for £5 mill absolute tops with maybe Chris Wood thrown in and fee reduced accordingly. That will get the head in the clouds lot on here screaming!!
£4m seems a little low for Lambert but he is 32 (5 years older than Leo).

Both players have two years remaining on their contracts. I'd say that values Leo at about £5m/£5.5m. However, the Albion are determined not to lose their prime asset so if Leicester or anyone else want him they will have to pay through the nose and some!
I believe Leo's contract runs for another three years, until end of June 2017.
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.[/p][/quote]Lambert to Liverpool for £4mill puts it in perspective. Top striker with proven goal scoring record at the highest level. The only thing is his age. I reckon LU will go for £5 mill absolute tops with maybe Chris Wood thrown in and fee reduced accordingly. That will get the head in the clouds lot on here screaming!![/p][/quote]£4m seems a little low for Lambert but he is 32 (5 years older than Leo). Both players have two years remaining on their contracts. I'd say that values Leo at about £5m/£5.5m. However, the Albion are determined not to lose their prime asset so if Leicester or anyone else want him they will have to pay through the nose and some![/p][/quote]I believe Leo's contract runs for another three years, until end of June 2017. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 5

10:00am Fri 30 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

when seagulls follow the trawler wrote:
Phil Neville on BBC Breakfast show this morning ; I am talking to a club at the moment, and they want me involved in their future. Will be sorted out when i get back from world cup ( working with the BBC - not playing ! ).
Hope he doesn't mean us! Would be a bit of a risk appointment but primarily we need a manager and several players by the time he returns to sort out his deal. Don't think he's referring to us to be honest.
[quote][p][bold]when seagulls follow the trawler[/bold] wrote: Phil Neville on BBC Breakfast show this morning ; I am talking to a club at the moment, and they want me involved in their future. Will be sorted out when i get back from world cup ( working with the BBC - not playing ! ).[/p][/quote]Hope he doesn't mean us! Would be a bit of a risk appointment but primarily we need a manager and several players by the time he returns to sort out his deal. Don't think he's referring to us to be honest. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 4

10:02am Fri 30 May 14

olebut says...

Ranieri would be a good fit quite, diplomatic , clever , astute and a good coach with plenty of experience
Ranieri would be a good fit quite, diplomatic , clever , astute and a good coach with plenty of experience olebut
  • Score: -1

10:03am Fri 30 May 14

dave from bexill says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
So Remi Garde is out of the picture.
A couple of weeks away with the kids may help him change his mind.
UTA
Ha, ha
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: So Remi Garde is out of the picture. A couple of weeks away with the kids may help him change his mind. UTA[/p][/quote]Ha, ha dave from bexill
  • Score: 3

10:04am Fri 30 May 14

dave from bexill says...

Mr Farkenbus wrote:
See from the latest gossip we are in the mix for interest in Matty Fryatt alongside Forest and Sheff Wed and Wigan...could this be the replacement for Ulloa?
Very different styles
[quote][p][bold]Mr Farkenbus[/bold] wrote: See from the latest gossip we are in the mix for interest in Matty Fryatt alongside Forest and Sheff Wed and Wigan...could this be the replacement for Ulloa?[/p][/quote]Very different styles dave from bexill
  • Score: 2

10:12am Fri 30 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

mark by the sea wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
namgo49 wrote:
What an enormous relief. Hopefully Tim Sherwood appointed very soon. Big name because of his Tottenham experience and big personality who will tell it like it is. Don't want the anonymous Steve Clarke, Chris Hughton, Paul Clement, Tony Mowbray, all boring.
How can you say there all boring except Sherwood, I think your find all the men being mentioned have far more experience than Sherwood in the game, he had five months in charge off a spurs team full off stars, if he becomes our manager and I don't mind if he does, let's see how he gets on a limited budget,
Up the Albion!!!!
Morning jeff , sherwood brings his experience in coaching youth , he has his own team and is a passionate manager, guy wears his heart on his sleeve, I think OG watched games like a chess player, what may have been fascinating foe OG would have bored sherwood to death, I think sherwood wants football played for the fans.
While your correct in him being in charge for 5 months he altered system away from the holding midfielder , so he has his own ideas and is prepared to try out things .
The other thing about him is Ferdinand coaches dead ball situations for hours on the training pitch!
For those that attended the Amex on a regular basis will know just how poor we were last year in that dept.
Spot on Mark. Summarises Sherwood's credentials perfectly. Our dead balls were appalling last term. *

I would be happy with TS, Clarke, Clement (now unlikely), Hyppia or Mackay. Had a hunch it may be a latke but that hunch has now moved Sherwood having heard he's been in touch.

*Speaking of dead balls get the lad Ben Pringle in from Rotherham. Championshop class all over and his corners are first rate (his Wembley pen wasn't bad either!). Excellent reader of the game, great distribution, fantastic left foot and a very cool head. Also is at the perfect age IMHO. Sign him and left sided CB Arnason (direct replacement for MU) in a "double swoop" plus the Newcastle RB Tavernier (class act) who they had on loan last season and we are a third of the way done already. Arnason is currently negotiating a possible new deal at The New York stadium with "Skinny" Steve Evans mob as we speak.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: What an enormous relief. Hopefully Tim Sherwood appointed very soon. Big name because of his Tottenham experience and big personality who will tell it like it is. Don't want the anonymous Steve Clarke, Chris Hughton, Paul Clement, Tony Mowbray, all boring.[/p][/quote]How can you say there all boring except Sherwood, I think your find all the men being mentioned have far more experience than Sherwood in the game, he had five months in charge off a spurs team full off stars, if he becomes our manager and I don't mind if he does, let's see how he gets on a limited budget, Up the Albion!!!![/p][/quote]Morning jeff , sherwood brings his experience in coaching youth , he has his own team and is a passionate manager, guy wears his heart on his sleeve, I think OG watched games like a chess player, what may have been fascinating foe OG would have bored sherwood to death, I think sherwood wants football played for the fans. While your correct in him being in charge for 5 months he altered system away from the holding midfielder , so he has his own ideas and is prepared to try out things . The other thing about him is Ferdinand coaches dead ball situations for hours on the training pitch! For those that attended the Amex on a regular basis will know just how poor we were last year in that dept.[/p][/quote]Spot on Mark. Summarises Sherwood's credentials perfectly. Our dead balls were appalling last term. * I would be happy with TS, Clarke, Clement (now unlikely), Hyppia or Mackay. Had a hunch it may be a latke but that hunch has now moved Sherwood having heard he's been in touch. *Speaking of dead balls get the lad Ben Pringle in from Rotherham. Championshop class all over and his corners are first rate (his Wembley pen wasn't bad either!). Excellent reader of the game, great distribution, fantastic left foot and a very cool head. Also is at the perfect age IMHO. Sign him and left sided CB Arnason (direct replacement for MU) in a "double swoop" plus the Newcastle RB Tavernier (class act) who they had on loan last season and we are a third of the way done already. Arnason is currently negotiating a possible new deal at The New York stadium with "Skinny" Steve Evans mob as we speak. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 5

10:13am Fri 30 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
SeagullOverSelsey wrote:
when seagulls follow the trawler wrote:
Phil Neville on BBC Breakfast show this morning ; I am talking to a club at the moment, and they want me involved in their future. Will be sorted out when i get back from world cup ( working with the BBC - not playing ! ).
Sorry but if that's true Then I must have misheard because I thought Neville was saying that he would be joining Van Gaal at United in their back room team and that this would be sorted out when he returns from the World Cup.This was in response to a question from the BBC sports reporter re Man U and Van Gaal and Nevile said he would be talking to THE club (Man U) not
A club (Albion?). Sorry this is long winded and I stand corrected if I'm wrong!
The World Cup lasts a month! No way would a prospective new club allow it to drag on that long! United it was.
Phew and phew again!
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SeagullOverSelsey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]when seagulls follow the trawler[/bold] wrote: Phil Neville on BBC Breakfast show this morning ; I am talking to a club at the moment, and they want me involved in their future. Will be sorted out when i get back from world cup ( working with the BBC - not playing ! ).[/p][/quote]Sorry but if that's true Then I must have misheard because I thought Neville was saying that he would be joining Van Gaal at United in their back room team and that this would be sorted out when he returns from the World Cup.This was in response to a question from the BBC sports reporter re Man U and Van Gaal and Nevile said he would be talking to THE club (Man U) not A club (Albion?). Sorry this is long winded and I stand corrected if I'm wrong![/p][/quote]The World Cup lasts a month! No way would a prospective new club allow it to drag on that long! United it was.[/p][/quote]Phew and phew again! Captain Haddock
  • Score: 2

10:17am Fri 30 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

Mr Farkenbus wrote:
See from the latest gossip we are in the mix for interest in Matty Fryatt alongside Forest and Sheff Wed and Wigan...could this be the replacement for Ulloa?
Yup. Get him in! Not a replacement as such (and would rather keep Leo anyway unless the offers get silly) but has vast experience and proven track record in this level.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Farkenbus[/bold] wrote: See from the latest gossip we are in the mix for interest in Matty Fryatt alongside Forest and Sheff Wed and Wigan...could this be the replacement for Ulloa?[/p][/quote]Yup. Get him in! Not a replacement as such (and would rather keep Leo anyway unless the offers get silly) but has vast experience and proven track record in this level. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 2

10:18am Fri 30 May 14

Conelli98 says...

Tim Sherwood with Ferdinand and Ramsey would be great for club. Chris Ramsey was very well thought of by Tottenham in bringing their development players through.
I think it's inevitable that Ulloa will leave so bring back Woods to work alongside CMS. Becchio would be a good shout and if Bobby came back to play a bit part role and sell some shirts that would be the forward department sorted!
Tim Sherwood with Ferdinand and Ramsey would be great for club. Chris Ramsey was very well thought of by Tottenham in bringing their development players through. I think it's inevitable that Ulloa will leave so bring back Woods to work alongside CMS. Becchio would be a good shout and if Bobby came back to play a bit part role and sell some shirts that would be the forward department sorted! Conelli98
  • Score: 1

10:20am Fri 30 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
namgo49 wrote:
What an enormous relief. Hopefully Tim Sherwood appointed very soon. Big name because of his Tottenham experience and big personality who will tell it like it is. Don't want the anonymous Steve Clarke, Chris Hughton, Paul Clement, Tony Mowbray, all boring.
How can you say there all boring except Sherwood, I think your find all the men being mentioned have far more experience than Sherwood in the game, he had five months in charge off a spurs team full off stars, if he becomes our manager and I don't mind if he does, let's see how he gets on a limited budget,
Up the Albion!!!!
Morning jeff , sherwood brings his experience in coaching youth , he has his own team and is a passionate manager, guy wears his heart on his sleeve, I think OG watched games like a chess player, what may have been fascinating foe OG would have bored sherwood to death, I think sherwood wants football played for the fans.
While your correct in him being in charge for 5 months he altered system away from the holding midfielder , so he has his own ideas and is prepared to try out things .
The other thing about him is Ferdinand coaches dead ball situations for hours on the training pitch!
For those that attended the Amex on a regular basis will know just how poor we were last year in that dept.
Spot on Mark. Summarises Sherwood's credentials perfectly. Our dead balls were appalling last term. *

I would be happy with TS, Clarke, Clement (now unlikely), Hyppia or Mackay. Had a hunch it may be a latke but that hunch has now moved Sherwood having heard he's been in touch.

*Speaking of dead balls get the lad Ben Pringle in from Rotherham. Championshop class all over and his corners are first rate (his Wembley pen wasn't bad either!). Excellent reader of the game, great distribution, fantastic left foot and a very cool head. Also is at the perfect age IMHO. Sign him and left sided CB Arnason (direct replacement for MU) in a "double swoop" plus the Newcastle RB Tavernier (class act) who they had on loan last season and we are a third of the way done already. Arnason is currently negotiating a possible new deal at The New York stadium with "Skinny" Steve Evans mob as we speak.
I don't know much about Arnason or Pringle but I agree about Tavernier - a very decent player. The only problem is that that would potentially leave us with three right-backs. Such a shame Tavernier isn't left-sided.
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: What an enormous relief. Hopefully Tim Sherwood appointed very soon. Big name because of his Tottenham experience and big personality who will tell it like it is. Don't want the anonymous Steve Clarke, Chris Hughton, Paul Clement, Tony Mowbray, all boring.[/p][/quote]How can you say there all boring except Sherwood, I think your find all the men being mentioned have far more experience than Sherwood in the game, he had five months in charge off a spurs team full off stars, if he becomes our manager and I don't mind if he does, let's see how he gets on a limited budget, Up the Albion!!!![/p][/quote]Morning jeff , sherwood brings his experience in coaching youth , he has his own team and is a passionate manager, guy wears his heart on his sleeve, I think OG watched games like a chess player, what may have been fascinating foe OG would have bored sherwood to death, I think sherwood wants football played for the fans. While your correct in him being in charge for 5 months he altered system away from the holding midfielder , so he has his own ideas and is prepared to try out things . The other thing about him is Ferdinand coaches dead ball situations for hours on the training pitch! For those that attended the Amex on a regular basis will know just how poor we were last year in that dept.[/p][/quote]Spot on Mark. Summarises Sherwood's credentials perfectly. Our dead balls were appalling last term. * I would be happy with TS, Clarke, Clement (now unlikely), Hyppia or Mackay. Had a hunch it may be a latke but that hunch has now moved Sherwood having heard he's been in touch. *Speaking of dead balls get the lad Ben Pringle in from Rotherham. Championshop class all over and his corners are first rate (his Wembley pen wasn't bad either!). Excellent reader of the game, great distribution, fantastic left foot and a very cool head. Also is at the perfect age IMHO. Sign him and left sided CB Arnason (direct replacement for MU) in a "double swoop" plus the Newcastle RB Tavernier (class act) who they had on loan last season and we are a third of the way done already. Arnason is currently negotiating a possible new deal at The New York stadium with "Skinny" Steve Evans mob as we speak.[/p][/quote]I don't know much about Arnason or Pringle but I agree about Tavernier - a very decent player. The only problem is that that would potentially leave us with three right-backs. Such a shame Tavernier isn't left-sided. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 4

10:22am Fri 30 May 14

dave from bexill says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
Mr Farkenbus wrote:
See from the latest gossip we are in the mix for interest in Matty Fryatt alongside Forest and Sheff Wed and Wigan...could this be the replacement for Ulloa?
Yup. Get him in! Not a replacement as such (and would rather keep Leo anyway unless the offers get silly) but has vast experience and proven track record in this level.
Good shout as proven championship scorer
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Farkenbus[/bold] wrote: See from the latest gossip we are in the mix for interest in Matty Fryatt alongside Forest and Sheff Wed and Wigan...could this be the replacement for Ulloa?[/p][/quote]Yup. Get him in! Not a replacement as such (and would rather keep Leo anyway unless the offers get silly) but has vast experience and proven track record in this level.[/p][/quote]Good shout as proven championship scorer dave from bexill
  • Score: 3

10:23am Fri 30 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Captain Haddock wrote:
namgo49 wrote:
AlfieT wrote:
Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.
Lambert to Liverpool for £4mill puts it in perspective. Top striker with proven goal scoring record at the highest level. The only thing is his age. I reckon LU will go for £5 mill absolute tops with maybe Chris Wood thrown in and fee reduced accordingly. That will get the head in the clouds lot on here screaming!!
£4m seems a little low for Lambert but he is 32 (5 years older than Leo).

Both players have two years remaining on their contracts. I'd say that values Leo at about £5m/£5.5m. However, the Albion are determined not to lose their prime asset so if Leicester or anyone else want him they will have to pay through the nose and some!
I believe Leo's contract runs for another three years, until end of June 2017.
Really? Bonus! Got some thumbs down for my last post. I care about as much as I do for Nigel Farage's politics but am curious to know who thinks Leicester shouldn't pay through the nose for Leo and/or who thinks £4m for an England striker isn't a bargain?
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.[/p][/quote]Lambert to Liverpool for £4mill puts it in perspective. Top striker with proven goal scoring record at the highest level. The only thing is his age. I reckon LU will go for £5 mill absolute tops with maybe Chris Wood thrown in and fee reduced accordingly. That will get the head in the clouds lot on here screaming!![/p][/quote]£4m seems a little low for Lambert but he is 32 (5 years older than Leo). Both players have two years remaining on their contracts. I'd say that values Leo at about £5m/£5.5m. However, the Albion are determined not to lose their prime asset so if Leicester or anyone else want him they will have to pay through the nose and some![/p][/quote]I believe Leo's contract runs for another three years, until end of June 2017.[/p][/quote]Really? Bonus! Got some thumbs down for my last post. I care about as much as I do for Nigel Farage's politics but am curious to know who thinks Leicester shouldn't pay through the nose for Leo and/or who thinks £4m for an England striker isn't a bargain? Captain Haddock
  • Score: 3

10:23am Fri 30 May 14

the taffster says...

Let's employ a manager who has taken a team up from the championship. Not a speculative choice. Chris Hughton or Steve Clarke have the credentials.
Let's employ a manager who has taken a team up from the championship. Not a speculative choice. Chris Hughton or Steve Clarke have the credentials. the taffster
  • Score: -2

10:26am Fri 30 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
namgo49 wrote:
What an enormous relief. Hopefully Tim Sherwood appointed very soon. Big name because of his Tottenham experience and big personality who will tell it like it is. Don't want the anonymous Steve Clarke, Chris Hughton, Paul Clement, Tony Mowbray, all boring.
How can you say there all boring except Sherwood, I think your find all the men being mentioned have far more experience than Sherwood in the game, he had five months in charge off a spurs team full off stars, if he becomes our manager and I don't mind if he does, let's see how he gets on a limited budget,
Up the Albion!!!!
Morning jeff , sherwood brings his experience in coaching youth , he has his own team and is a passionate manager, guy wears his heart on his sleeve, I think OG watched games like a chess player, what may have been fascinating foe OG would have bored sherwood to death, I think sherwood wants football played for the fans.
While your correct in him being in charge for 5 months he altered system away from the holding midfielder , so he has his own ideas and is prepared to try out things .
The other thing about him is Ferdinand coaches dead ball situations for hours on the training pitch!
For those that attended the Amex on a regular basis will know just how poor we were last year in that dept.
Spot on Mark. Summarises Sherwood's credentials perfectly. Our dead balls were appalling last term. *

I would be happy with TS, Clarke, Clement (now unlikely), Hyppia or Mackay. Had a hunch it may be a latke but that hunch has now moved Sherwood having heard he's been in touch.

*Speaking of dead balls get the lad Ben Pringle in from Rotherham. Championshop class all over and his corners are first rate (his Wembley pen wasn't bad either!). Excellent reader of the game, great distribution, fantastic left foot and a very cool head. Also is at the perfect age IMHO. Sign him and left sided CB Arnason (direct replacement for MU) in a "double swoop" plus the Newcastle RB Tavernier (class act) who they had on loan last season and we are a third of the way done already. Arnason is currently negotiating a possible new deal at The New York stadium with "Skinny" Steve Evans mob as we speak.
Should read "had a hunch it would be CLARKE but now think Sherwood likely".

Sorry
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: What an enormous relief. Hopefully Tim Sherwood appointed very soon. Big name because of his Tottenham experience and big personality who will tell it like it is. Don't want the anonymous Steve Clarke, Chris Hughton, Paul Clement, Tony Mowbray, all boring.[/p][/quote]How can you say there all boring except Sherwood, I think your find all the men being mentioned have far more experience than Sherwood in the game, he had five months in charge off a spurs team full off stars, if he becomes our manager and I don't mind if he does, let's see how he gets on a limited budget, Up the Albion!!!![/p][/quote]Morning jeff , sherwood brings his experience in coaching youth , he has his own team and is a passionate manager, guy wears his heart on his sleeve, I think OG watched games like a chess player, what may have been fascinating foe OG would have bored sherwood to death, I think sherwood wants football played for the fans. While your correct in him being in charge for 5 months he altered system away from the holding midfielder , so he has his own ideas and is prepared to try out things . The other thing about him is Ferdinand coaches dead ball situations for hours on the training pitch! For those that attended the Amex on a regular basis will know just how poor we were last year in that dept.[/p][/quote]Spot on Mark. Summarises Sherwood's credentials perfectly. Our dead balls were appalling last term. * I would be happy with TS, Clarke, Clement (now unlikely), Hyppia or Mackay. Had a hunch it may be a latke but that hunch has now moved Sherwood having heard he's been in touch. *Speaking of dead balls get the lad Ben Pringle in from Rotherham. Championshop class all over and his corners are first rate (his Wembley pen wasn't bad either!). Excellent reader of the game, great distribution, fantastic left foot and a very cool head. Also is at the perfect age IMHO. Sign him and left sided CB Arnason (direct replacement for MU) in a "double swoop" plus the Newcastle RB Tavernier (class act) who they had on loan last season and we are a third of the way done already. Arnason is currently negotiating a possible new deal at The New York stadium with "Skinny" Steve Evans mob as we speak.[/p][/quote]Should read "had a hunch it would be CLARKE but now think Sherwood likely". Sorry Captain Haddock
  • Score: 4

10:31am Fri 30 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Captain Haddock wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
namgo49 wrote:
What an enormous relief. Hopefully Tim Sherwood appointed very soon. Big name because of his Tottenham experience and big personality who will tell it like it is. Don't want the anonymous Steve Clarke, Chris Hughton, Paul Clement, Tony Mowbray, all boring.
How can you say there all boring except Sherwood, I think your find all the men being mentioned have far more experience than Sherwood in the game, he had five months in charge off a spurs team full off stars, if he becomes our manager and I don't mind if he does, let's see how he gets on a limited budget,
Up the Albion!!!!
Morning jeff , sherwood brings his experience in coaching youth , he has his own team and is a passionate manager, guy wears his heart on his sleeve, I think OG watched games like a chess player, what may have been fascinating foe OG would have bored sherwood to death, I think sherwood wants football played for the fans.
While your correct in him being in charge for 5 months he altered system away from the holding midfielder , so he has his own ideas and is prepared to try out things .
The other thing about him is Ferdinand coaches dead ball situations for hours on the training pitch!
For those that attended the Amex on a regular basis will know just how poor we were last year in that dept.
Spot on Mark. Summarises Sherwood's credentials perfectly. Our dead balls were appalling last term. *

I would be happy with TS, Clarke, Clement (now unlikely), Hyppia or Mackay. Had a hunch it may be a latke but that hunch has now moved Sherwood having heard he's been in touch.

*Speaking of dead balls get the lad Ben Pringle in from Rotherham. Championshop class all over and his corners are first rate (his Wembley pen wasn't bad either!). Excellent reader of the game, great distribution, fantastic left foot and a very cool head. Also is at the perfect age IMHO. Sign him and left sided CB Arnason (direct replacement for MU) in a "double swoop" plus the Newcastle RB Tavernier (class act) who they had on loan last season and we are a third of the way done already. Arnason is currently negotiating a possible new deal at The New York stadium with "Skinny" Steve Evans mob as we speak.
I don't know much about Arnason or Pringle but I agree about Tavernier - a very decent player. The only problem is that that would potentially leave us with three right-backs. Such a shame Tavernier isn't left-sided.
Indeed. Would give flexibility to squad though as both he and Bruno can play further forward and with Bruno and Calde both getting towards their final season(s) with us it would be a good time to strengthen for the long term.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: What an enormous relief. Hopefully Tim Sherwood appointed very soon. Big name because of his Tottenham experience and big personality who will tell it like it is. Don't want the anonymous Steve Clarke, Chris Hughton, Paul Clement, Tony Mowbray, all boring.[/p][/quote]How can you say there all boring except Sherwood, I think your find all the men being mentioned have far more experience than Sherwood in the game, he had five months in charge off a spurs team full off stars, if he becomes our manager and I don't mind if he does, let's see how he gets on a limited budget, Up the Albion!!!![/p][/quote]Morning jeff , sherwood brings his experience in coaching youth , he has his own team and is a passionate manager, guy wears his heart on his sleeve, I think OG watched games like a chess player, what may have been fascinating foe OG would have bored sherwood to death, I think sherwood wants football played for the fans. While your correct in him being in charge for 5 months he altered system away from the holding midfielder , so he has his own ideas and is prepared to try out things . The other thing about him is Ferdinand coaches dead ball situations for hours on the training pitch! For those that attended the Amex on a regular basis will know just how poor we were last year in that dept.[/p][/quote]Spot on Mark. Summarises Sherwood's credentials perfectly. Our dead balls were appalling last term. * I would be happy with TS, Clarke, Clement (now unlikely), Hyppia or Mackay. Had a hunch it may be a latke but that hunch has now moved Sherwood having heard he's been in touch. *Speaking of dead balls get the lad Ben Pringle in from Rotherham. Championshop class all over and his corners are first rate (his Wembley pen wasn't bad either!). Excellent reader of the game, great distribution, fantastic left foot and a very cool head. Also is at the perfect age IMHO. Sign him and left sided CB Arnason (direct replacement for MU) in a "double swoop" plus the Newcastle RB Tavernier (class act) who they had on loan last season and we are a third of the way done already. Arnason is currently negotiating a possible new deal at The New York stadium with "Skinny" Steve Evans mob as we speak.[/p][/quote]I don't know much about Arnason or Pringle but I agree about Tavernier - a very decent player. The only problem is that that would potentially leave us with three right-backs. Such a shame Tavernier isn't left-sided.[/p][/quote]Indeed. Would give flexibility to squad though as both he and Bruno can play further forward and with Bruno and Calde both getting towards their final season(s) with us it would be a good time to strengthen for the long term. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 6

10:34am Fri 30 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

Conelli98 wrote:
Tim Sherwood with Ferdinand and Ramsey would be great for club. Chris Ramsey was very well thought of by Tottenham in bringing their development players through.
I think it's inevitable that Ulloa will leave so bring back Woods to work alongside CMS. Becchio would be a good shout and if Bobby came back to play a bit part role and sell some shirts that would be the forward department sorted!
Not sure why you were thumbed down Conelli. Perhaps someone stands to lose money on your manager tip a couple of weeks ago?! ;0)

A forward line squad of CMS, Bobby Z, Becchio and Wood being managed by Sherwood, with ex-Seagull Ramsey amongst the backroom staff sounds pretty good to me!
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Tim Sherwood with Ferdinand and Ramsey would be great for club. Chris Ramsey was very well thought of by Tottenham in bringing their development players through. I think it's inevitable that Ulloa will leave so bring back Woods to work alongside CMS. Becchio would be a good shout and if Bobby came back to play a bit part role and sell some shirts that would be the forward department sorted![/p][/quote]Not sure why you were thumbed down Conelli. Perhaps someone stands to lose money on your manager tip a couple of weeks ago?! ;0) A forward line squad of CMS, Bobby Z, Becchio and Wood being managed by Sherwood, with ex-Seagull Ramsey amongst the backroom staff sounds pretty good to me! Captain Haddock
  • Score: 8

11:04am Fri 30 May 14

East of CrawleyDown says...

the taffster wrote:
Let's employ a manager who has taken a team up from the championship. Not a speculative choice. Chris Hughton or Steve Clarke have the credentials.
Hughton would be ideal for us as he has done it before, Steve Clarke also very capable and probably Sherwood as well. The increased pressure of the premier league is detrimental to a lot of managers reputations, but we should be employing someone based on their championship credentials, and Hughton is the clear winner on that front without a doubt. If we land Hughton then we know we are in good hands.
[quote][p][bold]the taffster[/bold] wrote: Let's employ a manager who has taken a team up from the championship. Not a speculative choice. Chris Hughton or Steve Clarke have the credentials.[/p][/quote]Hughton would be ideal for us as he has done it before, Steve Clarke also very capable and probably Sherwood as well. The increased pressure of the premier league is detrimental to a lot of managers reputations, but we should be employing someone based on their championship credentials, and Hughton is the clear winner on that front without a doubt. If we land Hughton then we know we are in good hands. East of CrawleyDown
  • Score: -4

11:18am Fri 30 May 14

cybergu11y says...

About an hour ago now, Facebook informed me that a press conference has been called by the club for mid day tomorrow. Even if it is not to announce a new manager, it must be something important. Is The Argus not invited? Or are they just slow in their reporting?
About an hour ago now, Facebook informed me that a press conference has been called by the club for mid day tomorrow. Even if it is not to announce a new manager, it must be something important. Is The Argus not invited? Or are they just slow in their reporting? cybergu11y
  • Score: 0

11:43am Fri 30 May 14

Bish May Turn says...

East of CrawleyDown wrote:
namgo49 wrote:
AlfieT wrote: Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.
Lambert to Liverpool for £4mill puts it in perspective. Top striker with proven goal scoring record at the highest level. The only thing is his age. I reckon LU will go for £5 mill absolute tops with maybe Chris Wood thrown in and fee reduced accordingly. That will get the head in the clouds lot on here screaming!!
Lambert is going for 8-10 million actually, so 5-6 million for Ulloa is more likely, enough to get us a decent replacement anyway.
Where are you getting 8-10 million from, it's 4 mill plus add ons.
[quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.[/p][/quote]Lambert to Liverpool for £4mill puts it in perspective. Top striker with proven goal scoring record at the highest level. The only thing is his age. I reckon LU will go for £5 mill absolute tops with maybe Chris Wood thrown in and fee reduced accordingly. That will get the head in the clouds lot on here screaming!![/p][/quote]Lambert is going for 8-10 million actually, so 5-6 million for Ulloa is more likely, enough to get us a decent replacement anyway.[/p][/quote]Where are you getting 8-10 million from, it's 4 mill plus add ons. Bish May Turn
  • Score: 0

12:09pm Fri 30 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

If Sherwood ends up getting the job I just hope he doesn't look at Brighton as a stepping stone. As is the norm for evey season, it won't be long before prem clubs start sacking managers, that will be the first period of temptation. At the end of the coming season others will lose their jobs, the second period.
If nothing else our club needs a period of stability, bring in a manager that will stick around for at least two seasons and preferably longer. I am not so sure that Sherwood will stick. When you are used to fine dining, home cooked meals, no matter how good, never quite match up.

If we have an applicant who is recognized as a good assistant manager, someone in the mould of Clement for example, or perhaps a current manager in Div 1 who looks capable of making the step up, I think either of these types would be a better bet in terms of stability. We must not be in this position again in six months time or at the end of the season. I would have to think that the likes of Sherwood would want a get out clause in his contract if the right club came calling.

Bloom HAS to get this one right and, 'right,' for me means getting someone who wants and sees the long term plan for the club.
If Sherwood ends up getting the job I just hope he doesn't look at Brighton as a stepping stone. As is the norm for evey season, it won't be long before prem clubs start sacking managers, that will be the first period of temptation. At the end of the coming season others will lose their jobs, the second period. If nothing else our club needs a period of stability, bring in a manager that will stick around for at least two seasons and preferably longer. I am not so sure that Sherwood will stick. When you are used to fine dining, home cooked meals, no matter how good, never quite match up. If we have an applicant who is recognized as a good assistant manager, someone in the mould of Clement for example, or perhaps a current manager in Div 1 who looks capable of making the step up, I think either of these types would be a better bet in terms of stability. We must not be in this position again in six months time or at the end of the season. I would have to think that the likes of Sherwood would want a get out clause in his contract if the right club came calling. Bloom HAS to get this one right and, 'right,' for me means getting someone who wants and sees the long term plan for the club. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

12:28pm Fri 30 May 14

Conelli98 says...

cybergu11y wrote:
About an hour ago now, Facebook informed me that a press conference has been called by the club for mid day tomorrow. Even if it is not to announce a new manager, it must be something important. Is The Argus not invited? Or are they just slow in their reporting?
I think the new kit is being unveiled tomorrow as Errea deal expires tomorrow! Never know new manager and new kit!!!
[quote][p][bold]cybergu11y[/bold] wrote: About an hour ago now, Facebook informed me that a press conference has been called by the club for mid day tomorrow. Even if it is not to announce a new manager, it must be something important. Is The Argus not invited? Or are they just slow in their reporting?[/p][/quote]I think the new kit is being unveiled tomorrow as Errea deal expires tomorrow! Never know new manager and new kit!!! Conelli98
  • Score: 0

12:34pm Fri 30 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

Conelli98 wrote:
cybergu11y wrote:
About an hour ago now, Facebook informed me that a press conference has been called by the club for mid day tomorrow. Even if it is not to announce a new manager, it must be something important. Is The Argus not invited? Or are they just slow in their reporting?
I think the new kit is being unveiled tomorrow as Errea deal expires tomorrow! Never know new manager and new kit!!!
There is also the little matter of tellig us what the name is that will go over the door of our new training facility.
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cybergu11y[/bold] wrote: About an hour ago now, Facebook informed me that a press conference has been called by the club for mid day tomorrow. Even if it is not to announce a new manager, it must be something important. Is The Argus not invited? Or are they just slow in their reporting?[/p][/quote]I think the new kit is being unveiled tomorrow as Errea deal expires tomorrow! Never know new manager and new kit!!![/p][/quote]There is also the little matter of tellig us what the name is that will go over the door of our new training facility. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

12:38pm Fri 30 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

It is reported that we have rejected a 5 milion bid from Leicester for Ulloa.
It is reported that we have rejected a 5 milion bid from Leicester for Ulloa. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 5

12:45pm Fri 30 May 14

Conelli98 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
cybergu11y wrote:
About an hour ago now, Facebook informed me that a press conference has been called by the club for mid day tomorrow. Even if it is not to announce a new manager, it must be something important. Is The Argus not invited? Or are they just slow in their reporting?
I think the new kit is being unveiled tomorrow as Errea deal expires tomorrow! Never know new manager and new kit!!!
There is also the little matter of tellig us what the name is that will go over the door of our new training facility.
'Brighton and Hove Albion Football Club Training Ground 'would be my guess Vegas!😛
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cybergu11y[/bold] wrote: About an hour ago now, Facebook informed me that a press conference has been called by the club for mid day tomorrow. Even if it is not to announce a new manager, it must be something important. Is The Argus not invited? Or are they just slow in their reporting?[/p][/quote]I think the new kit is being unveiled tomorrow as Errea deal expires tomorrow! Never know new manager and new kit!!![/p][/quote]There is also the little matter of tellig us what the name is that will go over the door of our new training facility.[/p][/quote]'Brighton and Hove Albion Football Club Training Ground 'would be my guess Vegas!😛 Conelli98
  • Score: 4

12:47pm Fri 30 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

Conelli98 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
cybergu11y wrote:
About an hour ago now, Facebook informed me that a press conference has been called by the club for mid day tomorrow. Even if it is not to announce a new manager, it must be something important. Is The Argus not invited? Or are they just slow in their reporting?
I think the new kit is being unveiled tomorrow as Errea deal expires tomorrow! Never know new manager and new kit!!!
There is also the little matter of tellig us what the name is that will go over the door of our new training facility.
'Brighton and Hove Albion Football Club Training Ground 'would be my guess Vegas!😛
yes that does have a certain appeal, but just maybe the people that have bought the naming rights just might want to see their name mentioned too.

What do you think of the latest rejected offer for Ulloa?
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cybergu11y[/bold] wrote: About an hour ago now, Facebook informed me that a press conference has been called by the club for mid day tomorrow. Even if it is not to announce a new manager, it must be something important. Is The Argus not invited? Or are they just slow in their reporting?[/p][/quote]I think the new kit is being unveiled tomorrow as Errea deal expires tomorrow! Never know new manager and new kit!!![/p][/quote]There is also the little matter of tellig us what the name is that will go over the door of our new training facility.[/p][/quote]'Brighton and Hove Albion Football Club Training Ground 'would be my guess Vegas!😛[/p][/quote]yes that does have a certain appeal, but just maybe the people that have bought the naming rights just might want to see their name mentioned too. What do you think of the latest rejected offer for Ulloa? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

12:50pm Fri 30 May 14

pte says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
It is reported that we have rejected a 5 milion bid from Leicester for Ulloa.
If they offer 7m reject it. Whatever they are willing to pay now they will pay more in January and that goes for other interested clubs.

Buy a decent striker now with the view of a potential sale in January and we start the season with momentum
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: It is reported that we have rejected a 5 milion bid from Leicester for Ulloa.[/p][/quote]If they offer 7m reject it. Whatever they are willing to pay now they will pay more in January and that goes for other interested clubs. Buy a decent striker now with the view of a potential sale in January and we start the season with momentum pte
  • Score: 1

12:52pm Fri 30 May 14

JeffLomer says...

Bish May Turn wrote:
East of CrawleyDown wrote:
namgo49 wrote:
AlfieT wrote: Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.
Lambert to Liverpool for £4mill puts it in perspective. Top striker with proven goal scoring record at the highest level. The only thing is his age. I reckon LU will go for £5 mill absolute tops with maybe Chris Wood thrown in and fee reduced accordingly. That will get the head in the clouds lot on here screaming!!
Lambert is going for 8-10 million actually, so 5-6 million for Ulloa is more likely, enough to get us a decent replacement anyway.
Where are you getting 8-10 million from, it's 4 mill plus add ons.
It is 8-10 million for LAMBERT were did you get 4 million, it is all over sky sports, the lad is 32 so probably alot off money but he is worth what Liverpool want to pay, up the albion!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Bish May Turn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.[/p][/quote]Lambert to Liverpool for £4mill puts it in perspective. Top striker with proven goal scoring record at the highest level. The only thing is his age. I reckon LU will go for £5 mill absolute tops with maybe Chris Wood thrown in and fee reduced accordingly. That will get the head in the clouds lot on here screaming!![/p][/quote]Lambert is going for 8-10 million actually, so 5-6 million for Ulloa is more likely, enough to get us a decent replacement anyway.[/p][/quote]Where are you getting 8-10 million from, it's 4 mill plus add ons.[/p][/quote]It is 8-10 million for LAMBERT were did you get 4 million, it is all over sky sports, the lad is 32 so probably alot off money but he is worth what Liverpool want to pay, up the albion!!!!!!! JeffLomer
  • Score: -1

12:55pm Fri 30 May 14

cybergu11y says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
cybergu11y wrote:
About an hour ago now, Facebook informed me that a press conference has been called by the club for mid day tomorrow. Even if it is not to announce a new manager, it must be something important. Is The Argus not invited? Or are they just slow in their reporting?
I think the new kit is being unveiled tomorrow as Errea deal expires tomorrow! Never know new manager and new kit!!!
There is also the little matter of tellig us what the name is that will go over the door of our new training facility.
'Brighton and Hove Albion Football Club Training Ground 'would be my guess Vegas!😛
yes that does have a certain appeal, but just maybe the people that have bought the naming rights just might want to see their name mentioned too.

What do you think of the latest rejected offer for Ulloa?
I think it I good news, Ulloa is not for sale, not at a give away price at least. Give the new man a chance, give him the core f a good squad to build on, not a complete demolition job. We have after all made he pay offs twice in a row.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cybergu11y[/bold] wrote: About an hour ago now, Facebook informed me that a press conference has been called by the club for mid day tomorrow. Even if it is not to announce a new manager, it must be something important. Is The Argus not invited? Or are they just slow in their reporting?[/p][/quote]I think the new kit is being unveiled tomorrow as Errea deal expires tomorrow! Never know new manager and new kit!!![/p][/quote]There is also the little matter of tellig us what the name is that will go over the door of our new training facility.[/p][/quote]'Brighton and Hove Albion Football Club Training Ground 'would be my guess Vegas!😛[/p][/quote]yes that does have a certain appeal, but just maybe the people that have bought the naming rights just might want to see their name mentioned too. What do you think of the latest rejected offer for Ulloa?[/p][/quote]I think it I good news, Ulloa is not for sale, not at a give away price at least. Give the new man a chance, give him the core f a good squad to build on, not a complete demolition job. We have after all made he pay offs twice in a row. cybergu11y
  • Score: 2

12:55pm Fri 30 May 14

Conelli98 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
cybergu11y wrote:
About an hour ago now, Facebook informed me that a press conference has been called by the club for mid day tomorrow. Even if it is not to announce a new manager, it must be something important. Is The Argus not invited? Or are they just slow in their reporting?
I think the new kit is being unveiled tomorrow as Errea deal expires tomorrow! Never know new manager and new kit!!!
There is also the little matter of tellig us what the name is that will go over the door of our new training facility.
'Brighton and Hove Albion Football Club Training Ground 'would be my guess Vegas!😛
yes that does have a certain appeal, but just maybe the people that have bought the naming rights just might want to see their name mentioned too.

What do you think of the latest rejected offer for Ulloa?
I would be very surprised if they come back with anymore money. IS Leo really a £6/7M player? I would take £5m plus Wood if player wanted to come this way. It would be interesting to see if Sunderland came in with bid for Ulloa and Buckley. Would you take £10M for the pair?...I would!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cybergu11y[/bold] wrote: About an hour ago now, Facebook informed me that a press conference has been called by the club for mid day tomorrow. Even if it is not to announce a new manager, it must be something important. Is The Argus not invited? Or are they just slow in their reporting?[/p][/quote]I think the new kit is being unveiled tomorrow as Errea deal expires tomorrow! Never know new manager and new kit!!![/p][/quote]There is also the little matter of tellig us what the name is that will go over the door of our new training facility.[/p][/quote]'Brighton and Hove Albion Football Club Training Ground 'would be my guess Vegas!😛[/p][/quote]yes that does have a certain appeal, but just maybe the people that have bought the naming rights just might want to see their name mentioned too. What do you think of the latest rejected offer for Ulloa?[/p][/quote]I would be very surprised if they come back with anymore money. IS Leo really a £6/7M player? I would take £5m plus Wood if player wanted to come this way. It would be interesting to see if Sunderland came in with bid for Ulloa and Buckley. Would you take £10M for the pair?...I would! Conelli98
  • Score: 1

12:56pm Fri 30 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

pte wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
It is reported that we have rejected a 5 milion bid from Leicester for Ulloa.
If they offer 7m reject it. Whatever they are willing to pay now they will pay more in January and that goes for other interested clubs.

Buy a decent striker now with the view of a potential sale in January and we start the season with momentum
I can see where you are coming from, and it just might work if, we have the money to rebuild a good squad without selling Ulloa for 7 million, which I guess we mgiht.
I can understand Leicester wanting him but I am a tad surprised that at least one other club has not put a bid in.
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: It is reported that we have rejected a 5 milion bid from Leicester for Ulloa.[/p][/quote]If they offer 7m reject it. Whatever they are willing to pay now they will pay more in January and that goes for other interested clubs. Buy a decent striker now with the view of a potential sale in January and we start the season with momentum[/p][/quote]I can see where you are coming from, and it just might work if, we have the money to rebuild a good squad without selling Ulloa for 7 million, which I guess we mgiht. I can understand Leicester wanting him but I am a tad surprised that at least one other club has not put a bid in. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

12:58pm Fri 30 May 14

Conelli98 says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Bish May Turn wrote:
East of CrawleyDown wrote:
namgo49 wrote:
AlfieT wrote: Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.
Lambert to Liverpool for £4mill puts it in perspective. Top striker with proven goal scoring record at the highest level. The only thing is his age. I reckon LU will go for £5 mill absolute tops with maybe Chris Wood thrown in and fee reduced accordingly. That will get the head in the clouds lot on here screaming!!
Lambert is going for 8-10 million actually, so 5-6 million for Ulloa is more likely, enough to get us a decent replacement anyway.
Where are you getting 8-10 million from, it's 4 mill plus add ons.
It is 8-10 million for LAMBERT were did you get 4 million, it is all over sky sports, the lad is 32 so probably alot off money but he is worth what Liverpool want to pay, up the albion!!!!!!!
It's £4m with potential add ons! Sky sports news...
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bish May Turn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.[/p][/quote]Lambert to Liverpool for £4mill puts it in perspective. Top striker with proven goal scoring record at the highest level. The only thing is his age. I reckon LU will go for £5 mill absolute tops with maybe Chris Wood thrown in and fee reduced accordingly. That will get the head in the clouds lot on here screaming!![/p][/quote]Lambert is going for 8-10 million actually, so 5-6 million for Ulloa is more likely, enough to get us a decent replacement anyway.[/p][/quote]Where are you getting 8-10 million from, it's 4 mill plus add ons.[/p][/quote]It is 8-10 million for LAMBERT were did you get 4 million, it is all over sky sports, the lad is 32 so probably alot off money but he is worth what Liverpool want to pay, up the albion!!!!!!![/p][/quote]It's £4m with potential add ons! Sky sports news... Conelli98
  • Score: 3

1:00pm Fri 30 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

Conelli98 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
cybergu11y wrote:
About an hour ago now, Facebook informed me that a press conference has been called by the club for mid day tomorrow. Even if it is not to announce a new manager, it must be something important. Is The Argus not invited? Or are they just slow in their reporting?
I think the new kit is being unveiled tomorrow as Errea deal expires tomorrow! Never know new manager and new kit!!!
There is also the little matter of tellig us what the name is that will go over the door of our new training facility.
'Brighton and Hove Albion Football Club Training Ground 'would be my guess Vegas!😛
yes that does have a certain appeal, but just maybe the people that have bought the naming rights just might want to see their name mentioned too.

What do you think of the latest rejected offer for Ulloa?
I would be very surprised if they come back with anymore money. IS Leo really a £6/7M player? I would take £5m plus Wood if player wanted to come this way. It would be interesting to see if Sunderland came in with bid for Ulloa and Buckley. Would you take £10M for the pair?...I would!
one could argue that taking 5 million plus Wood elevates Ulloa to the 6/7m value, if we don't want Wood, then we should want 6/7 million, minimum.
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cybergu11y[/bold] wrote: About an hour ago now, Facebook informed me that a press conference has been called by the club for mid day tomorrow. Even if it is not to announce a new manager, it must be something important. Is The Argus not invited? Or are they just slow in their reporting?[/p][/quote]I think the new kit is being unveiled tomorrow as Errea deal expires tomorrow! Never know new manager and new kit!!![/p][/quote]There is also the little matter of tellig us what the name is that will go over the door of our new training facility.[/p][/quote]'Brighton and Hove Albion Football Club Training Ground 'would be my guess Vegas!😛[/p][/quote]yes that does have a certain appeal, but just maybe the people that have bought the naming rights just might want to see their name mentioned too. What do you think of the latest rejected offer for Ulloa?[/p][/quote]I would be very surprised if they come back with anymore money. IS Leo really a £6/7M player? I would take £5m plus Wood if player wanted to come this way. It would be interesting to see if Sunderland came in with bid for Ulloa and Buckley. Would you take £10M for the pair?...I would![/p][/quote]one could argue that taking 5 million plus Wood elevates Ulloa to the 6/7m value, if we don't want Wood, then we should want 6/7 million, minimum. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

1:01pm Fri 30 May 14

pte says...

I think the reason for the delay in an appointment is they have got a "maybe" from the man they want and are waiting on his decision about other offers he has or might have in the coming weeks
I think the reason for the delay in an appointment is they have got a "maybe" from the man they want and are waiting on his decision about other offers he has or might have in the coming weeks pte
  • Score: -2

1:08pm Fri 30 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

pte wrote:
I think the reason for the delay in an appointment is they have got a "maybe" from the man they want and are waiting on his decision about other offers he has or might have in the coming weeks
you could be right but I don't see Bloom waiting, 'weeks,' for an answer. If you are right, I would question the decision to appoint this target as it might not be long before his eyes start to wander elsewhere. If we are second choice for this target today we will always be second choice, and that could lead to us needing a new manager this time next year. We need a guy with ambitions for the club first ansd foremost, and his personal abitions should be built on ours.
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: I think the reason for the delay in an appointment is they have got a "maybe" from the man they want and are waiting on his decision about other offers he has or might have in the coming weeks[/p][/quote]you could be right but I don't see Bloom waiting, 'weeks,' for an answer. If you are right, I would question the decision to appoint this target as it might not be long before his eyes start to wander elsewhere. If we are second choice for this target today we will always be second choice, and that could lead to us needing a new manager this time next year. We need a guy with ambitions for the club first ansd foremost, and his personal abitions should be built on ours. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 6

1:16pm Fri 30 May 14

JeffLomer says...

cybergu11y wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
cybergu11y wrote:
About an hour ago now, Facebook informed me that a press conference has been called by the club for mid day tomorrow. Even if it is not to announce a new manager, it must be something important. Is The Argus not invited? Or are they just slow in their reporting?
I think the new kit is being unveiled tomorrow as Errea deal expires tomorrow! Never know new manager and new kit!!!
There is also the little matter of tellig us what the name is that will go over the door of our new training facility.
'Brighton and Hove Albion Football Club Training Ground 'would be my guess Vegas!😛
yes that does have a certain appeal, but just maybe the people that have bought the naming rights just might want to see their name mentioned too.

What do you think of the latest rejected offer for Ulloa?
I think it I good news, Ulloa is not for sale, not at a give away price at least. Give the new man a chance, give him the core f a good squad to build on, not a complete demolition job. We have after all made he pay offs twice in a row.
Your find every player is for sale but only if the club selling gets there asking price, when then happens the player will leave, i agree not to sell but more likely he will leave!!
[quote][p][bold]cybergu11y[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cybergu11y[/bold] wrote: About an hour ago now, Facebook informed me that a press conference has been called by the club for mid day tomorrow. Even if it is not to announce a new manager, it must be something important. Is The Argus not invited? Or are they just slow in their reporting?[/p][/quote]I think the new kit is being unveiled tomorrow as Errea deal expires tomorrow! Never know new manager and new kit!!![/p][/quote]There is also the little matter of tellig us what the name is that will go over the door of our new training facility.[/p][/quote]'Brighton and Hove Albion Football Club Training Ground 'would be my guess Vegas!😛[/p][/quote]yes that does have a certain appeal, but just maybe the people that have bought the naming rights just might want to see their name mentioned too. What do you think of the latest rejected offer for Ulloa?[/p][/quote]I think it I good news, Ulloa is not for sale, not at a give away price at least. Give the new man a chance, give him the core f a good squad to build on, not a complete demolition job. We have after all made he pay offs twice in a row.[/p][/quote]Your find every player is for sale but only if the club selling gets there asking price, when then happens the player will leave, i agree not to sell but more likely he will leave!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 0

1:22pm Fri 30 May 14

JeffLomer says...

Conelli98 wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
Bish May Turn wrote:
East of CrawleyDown wrote:
namgo49 wrote:
AlfieT wrote: Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.
Lambert to Liverpool for £4mill puts it in perspective. Top striker with proven goal scoring record at the highest level. The only thing is his age. I reckon LU will go for £5 mill absolute tops with maybe Chris Wood thrown in and fee reduced accordingly. That will get the head in the clouds lot on here screaming!!
Lambert is going for 8-10 million actually, so 5-6 million for Ulloa is more likely, enough to get us a decent replacement anyway.
Where are you getting 8-10 million from, it's 4 mill plus add ons.
It is 8-10 million for LAMBERT were did you get 4 million, it is all over sky sports, the lad is 32 so probably alot off money but he is worth what Liverpool want to pay, up the albion!!!!!!!
It's £4m with potential add ons! Sky sports news...
My apologies i did see 8-10 million this morning, but your right it is 4 million sorry about that!!
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bish May Turn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.[/p][/quote]Lambert to Liverpool for £4mill puts it in perspective. Top striker with proven goal scoring record at the highest level. The only thing is his age. I reckon LU will go for £5 mill absolute tops with maybe Chris Wood thrown in and fee reduced accordingly. That will get the head in the clouds lot on here screaming!![/p][/quote]Lambert is going for 8-10 million actually, so 5-6 million for Ulloa is more likely, enough to get us a decent replacement anyway.[/p][/quote]Where are you getting 8-10 million from, it's 4 mill plus add ons.[/p][/quote]It is 8-10 million for LAMBERT were did you get 4 million, it is all over sky sports, the lad is 32 so probably alot off money but he is worth what Liverpool want to pay, up the albion!!!!!!![/p][/quote]It's £4m with potential add ons! Sky sports news...[/p][/quote]My apologies i did see 8-10 million this morning, but your right it is 4 million sorry about that!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 0

1:24pm Fri 30 May 14

brightonup says...

This speculation appeared in the Mail online

It MUST be true, surely.......
This speculation appeared in the Mail online It MUST be true, surely....... brightonup
  • Score: 0

1:26pm Fri 30 May 14

Conelli98 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
cybergu11y wrote:
About an hour ago now, Facebook informed me that a press conference has been called by the club for mid day tomorrow. Even if it is not to announce a new manager, it must be something important. Is The Argus not invited? Or are they just slow in their reporting?
I think the new kit is being unveiled tomorrow as Errea deal expires tomorrow! Never know new manager and new kit!!!
There is also the little matter of tellig us what the name is that will go over the door of our new training facility.
'Brighton and Hove Albion Football Club Training Ground 'would be my guess Vegas!😛
yes that does have a certain appeal, but just maybe the people that have bought the naming rights just might want to see their name mentioned too.

What do you think of the latest rejected offer for Ulloa?
I would be very surprised if they come back with anymore money. IS Leo really a £6/7M player? I would take £5m plus Wood if player wanted to come this way. It would be interesting to see if Sunderland came in with bid for Ulloa and Buckley. Would you take £10M for the pair?...I would!
one could argue that taking 5 million plus Wood elevates Ulloa to the 6/7m value, if we don't want Wood, then we should want 6/7 million, minimum.
I understand what you are saying Vegas but my question to you is do you think Ulloa is really worth 6/7? If you were a Leicester fan would you be happy spending that kind of money on an unproven prem player who lacks real pace? I know Lambert is 32 but weigh it up 4m for him or 6/7 for Ulloa?
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cybergu11y[/bold] wrote: About an hour ago now, Facebook informed me that a press conference has been called by the club for mid day tomorrow. Even if it is not to announce a new manager, it must be something important. Is The Argus not invited? Or are they just slow in their reporting?[/p][/quote]I think the new kit is being unveiled tomorrow as Errea deal expires tomorrow! Never know new manager and new kit!!![/p][/quote]There is also the little matter of tellig us what the name is that will go over the door of our new training facility.[/p][/quote]'Brighton and Hove Albion Football Club Training Ground 'would be my guess Vegas!😛[/p][/quote]yes that does have a certain appeal, but just maybe the people that have bought the naming rights just might want to see their name mentioned too. What do you think of the latest rejected offer for Ulloa?[/p][/quote]I would be very surprised if they come back with anymore money. IS Leo really a £6/7M player? I would take £5m plus Wood if player wanted to come this way. It would be interesting to see if Sunderland came in with bid for Ulloa and Buckley. Would you take £10M for the pair?...I would![/p][/quote]one could argue that taking 5 million plus Wood elevates Ulloa to the 6/7m value, if we don't want Wood, then we should want 6/7 million, minimum.[/p][/quote]I understand what you are saying Vegas but my question to you is do you think Ulloa is really worth 6/7? If you were a Leicester fan would you be happy spending that kind of money on an unproven prem player who lacks real pace? I know Lambert is 32 but weigh it up 4m for him or 6/7 for Ulloa? Conelli98
  • Score: 1

1:26pm Fri 30 May 14

tinker111 says...

twonk wrote:
Only the Argus thought he was an option.
Under the current set up he R G would never come and that goes for a lot of others
[quote][p][bold]twonk[/bold] wrote: Only the Argus thought he was an option.[/p][/quote]Under the current set up he R G would never come and that goes for a lot of others tinker111
  • Score: -3

1:32pm Fri 30 May 14

tinker111 says...

Thought the headlines were about a new manager not ULLOA he will be gone before some one comes to take over team in mean time the best deals are taking place
Thought the headlines were about a new manager not ULLOA he will be gone before some one comes to take over team in mean time the best deals are taking place tinker111
  • Score: -3

1:34pm Fri 30 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

Good to see that the club are holding firm on their evaluation of Ulloa but even if he is sold, and if the price is 7M, that won't be the final price. I would like to think that add-ons will be in the deal and a sell on clause, maybe even a buy back clause. If Leicester persist Brighton will milk this sale for evey penny they can get, with add-ons this deal could be worth 10M and that is without any sell on payment. Extra if Leicester survive their first year. Extra when Leo scores X number of goals and even more if he plays X number of international games.
Good to see that the club are holding firm on their evaluation of Ulloa but even if he is sold, and if the price is 7M, that won't be the final price. I would like to think that add-ons will be in the deal and a sell on clause, maybe even a buy back clause. If Leicester persist Brighton will milk this sale for evey penny they can get, with add-ons this deal could be worth 10M and that is without any sell on payment. Extra if Leicester survive their first year. Extra when Leo scores X number of goals and even more if he plays X number of international games. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

1:45pm Fri 30 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

Conellie, we paid 2 million to get hm, we would probably pay a further 3 million to replae him, 5 million in the hole.
A profit of 2 million seems fair when considering what his goals might mean to Leicester. Unproven yep but that's a gamble for Leicester to take, we KNOW he will score goals for us next season. Even if it didn't work ut for them, he would always have a resale value, maybe half what they paid for him so not so big a gamble.
Conellie, we paid 2 million to get hm, we would probably pay a further 3 million to replae him, 5 million in the hole. A profit of 2 million seems fair when considering what his goals might mean to Leicester. Unproven yep but that's a gamble for Leicester to take, we KNOW he will score goals for us next season. Even if it didn't work ut for them, he would always have a resale value, maybe half what they paid for him so not so big a gamble. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -1

1:48pm Fri 30 May 14

JeffLomer says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Good to see that the club are holding firm on their evaluation of Ulloa but even if he is sold, and if the price is 7M, that won't be the final price. I would like to think that add-ons will be in the deal and a sell on clause, maybe even a buy back clause. If Leicester persist Brighton will milk this sale for evey penny they can get, with add-ons this deal could be worth 10M and that is without any sell on payment. Extra if Leicester survive their first year. Extra when Leo scores X number of goals and even more if he plays X number of international games.
I think Steve Bruce will come in for Leo this coming week big admirer Bruce is off Leo, when we played them in the cup he said he would be a hand full in the premiership,
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Good to see that the club are holding firm on their evaluation of Ulloa but even if he is sold, and if the price is 7M, that won't be the final price. I would like to think that add-ons will be in the deal and a sell on clause, maybe even a buy back clause. If Leicester persist Brighton will milk this sale for evey penny they can get, with add-ons this deal could be worth 10M and that is without any sell on payment. Extra if Leicester survive their first year. Extra when Leo scores X number of goals and even more if he plays X number of international games.[/p][/quote]I think Steve Bruce will come in for Leo this coming week big admirer Bruce is off Leo, when we played them in the cup he said he would be a hand full in the premiership, JeffLomer
  • Score: 1

1:55pm Fri 30 May 14

Conelli98 says...

tinker111 wrote:
Thought the headlines were about a new manager not ULLOA he will be gone before some one comes to take over team in mean time the best deals are taking place
Go back to bed --nker111!
[quote][p][bold]tinker111[/bold] wrote: Thought the headlines were about a new manager not ULLOA he will be gone before some one comes to take over team in mean time the best deals are taking place[/p][/quote]Go back to bed --nker111! Conelli98
  • Score: 1

2:00pm Fri 30 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

JeffLomer wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Good to see that the club are holding firm on their evaluation of Ulloa but even if he is sold, and if the price is 7M, that won't be the final price. I would like to think that add-ons will be in the deal and a sell on clause, maybe even a buy back clause. If Leicester persist Brighton will milk this sale for evey penny they can get, with add-ons this deal could be worth 10M and that is without any sell on payment. Extra if Leicester survive their first year. Extra when Leo scores X number of goals and even more if he plays X number of international games.
I think Steve Bruce will come in for Leo this coming week big admirer Bruce is off Leo, when we played them in the cup he said he would be a hand full in the premiership,
You could be right Jeff, it might be that other clubs are watching what Leicester are doing and seeing what our response is. If Bruce did have a fancy to buy Leo, there would be no point in moving too early as the price would just go higher, better to wait until Leicester drop out and then offer one million more than their last bid.
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Good to see that the club are holding firm on their evaluation of Ulloa but even if he is sold, and if the price is 7M, that won't be the final price. I would like to think that add-ons will be in the deal and a sell on clause, maybe even a buy back clause. If Leicester persist Brighton will milk this sale for evey penny they can get, with add-ons this deal could be worth 10M and that is without any sell on payment. Extra if Leicester survive their first year. Extra when Leo scores X number of goals and even more if he plays X number of international games.[/p][/quote]I think Steve Bruce will come in for Leo this coming week big admirer Bruce is off Leo, when we played them in the cup he said he would be a hand full in the premiership,[/p][/quote]You could be right Jeff, it might be that other clubs are watching what Leicester are doing and seeing what our response is. If Bruce did have a fancy to buy Leo, there would be no point in moving too early as the price would just go higher, better to wait until Leicester drop out and then offer one million more than their last bid. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

2:14pm Fri 30 May 14

Mr Farkenbus says...

So today we've rejected latest 5mill bid from Leicester for Ulloa!
So today we've rejected latest 5mill bid from Leicester for Ulloa! Mr Farkenbus
  • Score: 1

2:46pm Fri 30 May 14

bruce beckett says...

Why shouldn't Sherwood use us as a stepping stone, Vegas? After all, that is exactly what every player with ambition (i.e. Liam Bridcutt) does.

Everyone – managers, players, fans – knows that the Premier League is the place to be, so while I understand your desire for a period of "stability", I don't think you're going to get it.

Nothing is stable in football. It's the nature of the game. Everyone is expected to produce results instantly.

I'm not too excited by the list of managers available. Sherwood seems to have drive and passion, and I think he will bring the best out in a player, but the downside is he doesn't have much experience in management. Whoever comes in has a tough act to follow as Poyet and Garcia both showed themselves to be outstanding managers at this level.
Why shouldn't Sherwood use us as a stepping stone, Vegas? After all, that is exactly what every player with ambition (i.e. Liam Bridcutt) does. Everyone – managers, players, fans – knows that the Premier League is the place to be, so while I understand your desire for a period of "stability", I don't think you're going to get it. Nothing is stable in football. It's the nature of the game. Everyone is expected to produce results instantly. I'm not too excited by the list of managers available. Sherwood seems to have drive and passion, and I think he will bring the best out in a player, but the downside is he doesn't have much experience in management. Whoever comes in has a tough act to follow as Poyet and Garcia both showed themselves to be outstanding managers at this level. bruce beckett
  • Score: 4

2:47pm Fri 30 May 14

JeffLomer says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Good to see that the club are holding firm on their evaluation of Ulloa but even if he is sold, and if the price is 7M, that won't be the final price. I would like to think that add-ons will be in the deal and a sell on clause, maybe even a buy back clause. If Leicester persist Brighton will milk this sale for evey penny they can get, with add-ons this deal could be worth 10M and that is without any sell on payment. Extra if Leicester survive their first year. Extra when Leo scores X number of goals and even more if he plays X number of international games.
I think Steve Bruce will come in for Leo this coming week big admirer Bruce is off Leo, when we played them in the cup he said he would be a hand full in the premiership,
You could be right Jeff, it might be that other clubs are watching what Leicester are doing and seeing what our response is. If Bruce did have a fancy to buy Leo, there would be no point in moving too early as the price would just go higher, better to wait until Leicester drop out and then offer one million more than their last bid.
Its always better if a couple off clubs come in for a player bidding war starts then might push the price nearer to what the club sees a players valuation being met, just a inkling Vegas i might be wide off the mark, just remember what Bruce mentioned in a interview after the game at the Amex, do you think Liverpool paid to much for Lambert, i put it another way would you be happy if we spent 4 million on a player that is 32, i no he is a top goal scorer and in the England squad,
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Good to see that the club are holding firm on their evaluation of Ulloa but even if he is sold, and if the price is 7M, that won't be the final price. I would like to think that add-ons will be in the deal and a sell on clause, maybe even a buy back clause. If Leicester persist Brighton will milk this sale for evey penny they can get, with add-ons this deal could be worth 10M and that is without any sell on payment. Extra if Leicester survive their first year. Extra when Leo scores X number of goals and even more if he plays X number of international games.[/p][/quote]I think Steve Bruce will come in for Leo this coming week big admirer Bruce is off Leo, when we played them in the cup he said he would be a hand full in the premiership,[/p][/quote]You could be right Jeff, it might be that other clubs are watching what Leicester are doing and seeing what our response is. If Bruce did have a fancy to buy Leo, there would be no point in moving too early as the price would just go higher, better to wait until Leicester drop out and then offer one million more than their last bid.[/p][/quote]Its always better if a couple off clubs come in for a player bidding war starts then might push the price nearer to what the club sees a players valuation being met, just a inkling Vegas i might be wide off the mark, just remember what Bruce mentioned in a interview after the game at the Amex, do you think Liverpool paid to much for Lambert, i put it another way would you be happy if we spent 4 million on a player that is 32, i no he is a top goal scorer and in the England squad, JeffLomer
  • Score: -1

3:01pm Fri 30 May 14

Conelli98 says...

JeffLomer wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Good to see that the club are holding firm on their evaluation of Ulloa but even if he is sold, and if the price is 7M, that won't be the final price. I would like to think that add-ons will be in the deal and a sell on clause, maybe even a buy back clause. If Leicester persist Brighton will milk this sale for evey penny they can get, with add-ons this deal could be worth 10M and that is without any sell on payment. Extra if Leicester survive their first year. Extra when Leo scores X number of goals and even more if he plays X number of international games.
I think Steve Bruce will come in for Leo this coming week big admirer Bruce is off Leo, when we played them in the cup he said he would be a hand full in the premiership,
You could be right Jeff, it might be that other clubs are watching what Leicester are doing and seeing what our response is. If Bruce did have a fancy to buy Leo, there would be no point in moving too early as the price would just go higher, better to wait until Leicester drop out and then offer one million more than their last bid.
Its always better if a couple off clubs come in for a player bidding war starts then might push the price nearer to what the club sees a players valuation being met, just a inkling Vegas i might be wide off the mark, just remember what Bruce mentioned in a interview after the game at the Amex, do you think Liverpool paid to much for Lambert, i put it another way would you be happy if we spent 4 million on a player that is 32, i no he is a top goal scorer and in the England squad,
Lambert is proven! Even at 32 he will still have a couple of good seasons in him. If I were a fox it would be Lambert over Ulloa.
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Good to see that the club are holding firm on their evaluation of Ulloa but even if he is sold, and if the price is 7M, that won't be the final price. I would like to think that add-ons will be in the deal and a sell on clause, maybe even a buy back clause. If Leicester persist Brighton will milk this sale for evey penny they can get, with add-ons this deal could be worth 10M and that is without any sell on payment. Extra if Leicester survive their first year. Extra when Leo scores X number of goals and even more if he plays X number of international games.[/p][/quote]I think Steve Bruce will come in for Leo this coming week big admirer Bruce is off Leo, when we played them in the cup he said he would be a hand full in the premiership,[/p][/quote]You could be right Jeff, it might be that other clubs are watching what Leicester are doing and seeing what our response is. If Bruce did have a fancy to buy Leo, there would be no point in moving too early as the price would just go higher, better to wait until Leicester drop out and then offer one million more than their last bid.[/p][/quote]Its always better if a couple off clubs come in for a player bidding war starts then might push the price nearer to what the club sees a players valuation being met, just a inkling Vegas i might be wide off the mark, just remember what Bruce mentioned in a interview after the game at the Amex, do you think Liverpool paid to much for Lambert, i put it another way would you be happy if we spent 4 million on a player that is 32, i no he is a top goal scorer and in the England squad,[/p][/quote]Lambert is proven! Even at 32 he will still have a couple of good seasons in him. If I were a fox it would be Lambert over Ulloa. Conelli98
  • Score: 2

3:12pm Fri 30 May 14

JeffLomer says...

Conelli98 wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Good to see that the club are holding firm on their evaluation of Ulloa but even if he is sold, and if the price is 7M, that won't be the final price. I would like to think that add-ons will be in the deal and a sell on clause, maybe even a buy back clause. If Leicester persist Brighton will milk this sale for evey penny they can get, with add-ons this deal could be worth 10M and that is without any sell on payment. Extra if Leicester survive their first year. Extra when Leo scores X number of goals and even more if he plays X number of international games.
I think Steve Bruce will come in for Leo this coming week big admirer Bruce is off Leo, when we played them in the cup he said he would be a hand full in the premiership,
You could be right Jeff, it might be that other clubs are watching what Leicester are doing and seeing what our response is. If Bruce did have a fancy to buy Leo, there would be no point in moving too early as the price would just go higher, better to wait until Leicester drop out and then offer one million more than their last bid.
Its always better if a couple off clubs come in for a player bidding war starts then might push the price nearer to what the club sees a players valuation being met, just a inkling Vegas i might be wide off the mark, just remember what Bruce mentioned in a interview after the game at the Amex, do you think Liverpool paid to much for Lambert, i put it another way would you be happy if we spent 4 million on a player that is 32, i no he is a top goal scorer and in the England squad,
Lambert is proven! Even at 32 he will still have a couple of good seasons in him. If I were a fox it would be Lambert over Ulloa.
Fair point you make what about ulloa over Lambert for Brighton then
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Good to see that the club are holding firm on their evaluation of Ulloa but even if he is sold, and if the price is 7M, that won't be the final price. I would like to think that add-ons will be in the deal and a sell on clause, maybe even a buy back clause. If Leicester persist Brighton will milk this sale for evey penny they can get, with add-ons this deal could be worth 10M and that is without any sell on payment. Extra if Leicester survive their first year. Extra when Leo scores X number of goals and even more if he plays X number of international games.[/p][/quote]I think Steve Bruce will come in for Leo this coming week big admirer Bruce is off Leo, when we played them in the cup he said he would be a hand full in the premiership,[/p][/quote]You could be right Jeff, it might be that other clubs are watching what Leicester are doing and seeing what our response is. If Bruce did have a fancy to buy Leo, there would be no point in moving too early as the price would just go higher, better to wait until Leicester drop out and then offer one million more than their last bid.[/p][/quote]Its always better if a couple off clubs come in for a player bidding war starts then might push the price nearer to what the club sees a players valuation being met, just a inkling Vegas i might be wide off the mark, just remember what Bruce mentioned in a interview after the game at the Amex, do you think Liverpool paid to much for Lambert, i put it another way would you be happy if we spent 4 million on a player that is 32, i no he is a top goal scorer and in the England squad,[/p][/quote]Lambert is proven! Even at 32 he will still have a couple of good seasons in him. If I were a fox it would be Lambert over Ulloa.[/p][/quote]Fair point you make what about ulloa over Lambert for Brighton then JeffLomer
  • Score: 1

3:22pm Fri 30 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

JeffLomer wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Good to see that the club are holding firm on their evaluation of Ulloa but even if he is sold, and if the price is 7M, that won't be the final price. I would like to think that add-ons will be in the deal and a sell on clause, maybe even a buy back clause. If Leicester persist Brighton will milk this sale for evey penny they can get, with add-ons this deal could be worth 10M and that is without any sell on payment. Extra if Leicester survive their first year. Extra when Leo scores X number of goals and even more if he plays X number of international games.
I think Steve Bruce will come in for Leo this coming week big admirer Bruce is off Leo, when we played them in the cup he said he would be a hand full in the premiership,
You could be right Jeff, it might be that other clubs are watching what Leicester are doing and seeing what our response is. If Bruce did have a fancy to buy Leo, there would be no point in moving too early as the price would just go higher, better to wait until Leicester drop out and then offer one million more than their last bid.
Its always better if a couple off clubs come in for a player bidding war starts then might push the price nearer to what the club sees a players valuation being met, just a inkling Vegas i might be wide off the mark, just remember what Bruce mentioned in a interview after the game at the Amex, do you think Liverpool paid to much for Lambert, i put it another way would you be happy if we spent 4 million on a player that is 32, i no he is a top goal scorer and in the England squad,
Nope, I wouldn't want us to spend 4M om a 32 yearold striker, mostly because I am taking the long view for what is best for the club. Find a good striker aged 28, or younger, for 4M and I would be happy. Prem clubs can afford to pay bigish money for a short term return, we can't. The usual 2 or 3 year contract doesn't work for me, let's try to get some younger players on 4 year deals. Part of what is driving up the price for Ulloa is the length of his contract that is still to run.
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Good to see that the club are holding firm on their evaluation of Ulloa but even if he is sold, and if the price is 7M, that won't be the final price. I would like to think that add-ons will be in the deal and a sell on clause, maybe even a buy back clause. If Leicester persist Brighton will milk this sale for evey penny they can get, with add-ons this deal could be worth 10M and that is without any sell on payment. Extra if Leicester survive their first year. Extra when Leo scores X number of goals and even more if he plays X number of international games.[/p][/quote]I think Steve Bruce will come in for Leo this coming week big admirer Bruce is off Leo, when we played them in the cup he said he would be a hand full in the premiership,[/p][/quote]You could be right Jeff, it might be that other clubs are watching what Leicester are doing and seeing what our response is. If Bruce did have a fancy to buy Leo, there would be no point in moving too early as the price would just go higher, better to wait until Leicester drop out and then offer one million more than their last bid.[/p][/quote]Its always better if a couple off clubs come in for a player bidding war starts then might push the price nearer to what the club sees a players valuation being met, just a inkling Vegas i might be wide off the mark, just remember what Bruce mentioned in a interview after the game at the Amex, do you think Liverpool paid to much for Lambert, i put it another way would you be happy if we spent 4 million on a player that is 32, i no he is a top goal scorer and in the England squad,[/p][/quote]Nope, I wouldn't want us to spend 4M om a 32 yearold striker, mostly because I am taking the long view for what is best for the club. Find a good striker aged 28, or younger, for 4M and I would be happy. Prem clubs can afford to pay bigish money for a short term return, we can't. The usual 2 or 3 year contract doesn't work for me, let's try to get some younger players on 4 year deals. Part of what is driving up the price for Ulloa is the length of his contract that is still to run. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

3:35pm Fri 30 May 14

Conelli98 says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Good to see that the club are holding firm on their evaluation of Ulloa but even if he is sold, and if the price is 7M, that won't be the final price. I would like to think that add-ons will be in the deal and a sell on clause, maybe even a buy back clause. If Leicester persist Brighton will milk this sale for evey penny they can get, with add-ons this deal could be worth 10M and that is without any sell on payment. Extra if Leicester survive their first year. Extra when Leo scores X number of goals and even more if he plays X number of international games.
I think Steve Bruce will come in for Leo this coming week big admirer Bruce is off Leo, when we played them in the cup he said he would be a hand full in the premiership,
You could be right Jeff, it might be that other clubs are watching what Leicester are doing and seeing what our response is. If Bruce did have a fancy to buy Leo, there would be no point in moving too early as the price would just go higher, better to wait until Leicester drop out and then offer one million more than their last bid.
Its always better if a couple off clubs come in for a player bidding war starts then might push the price nearer to what the club sees a players valuation being met, just a inkling Vegas i might be wide off the mark, just remember what Bruce mentioned in a interview after the game at the Amex, do you think Liverpool paid to much for Lambert, i put it another way would you be happy if we spent 4 million on a player that is 32, i no he is a top goal scorer and in the England squad,
Lambert is proven! Even at 32 he will still have a couple of good seasons in him. If I were a fox it would be Lambert over Ulloa.
Fair point you make what about ulloa over Lambert for Brighton then
I would take Lambert!
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Good to see that the club are holding firm on their evaluation of Ulloa but even if he is sold, and if the price is 7M, that won't be the final price. I would like to think that add-ons will be in the deal and a sell on clause, maybe even a buy back clause. If Leicester persist Brighton will milk this sale for evey penny they can get, with add-ons this deal could be worth 10M and that is without any sell on payment. Extra if Leicester survive their first year. Extra when Leo scores X number of goals and even more if he plays X number of international games.[/p][/quote]I think Steve Bruce will come in for Leo this coming week big admirer Bruce is off Leo, when we played them in the cup he said he would be a hand full in the premiership,[/p][/quote]You could be right Jeff, it might be that other clubs are watching what Leicester are doing and seeing what our response is. If Bruce did have a fancy to buy Leo, there would be no point in moving too early as the price would just go higher, better to wait until Leicester drop out and then offer one million more than their last bid.[/p][/quote]Its always better if a couple off clubs come in for a player bidding war starts then might push the price nearer to what the club sees a players valuation being met, just a inkling Vegas i might be wide off the mark, just remember what Bruce mentioned in a interview after the game at the Amex, do you think Liverpool paid to much for Lambert, i put it another way would you be happy if we spent 4 million on a player that is 32, i no he is a top goal scorer and in the England squad,[/p][/quote]Lambert is proven! Even at 32 he will still have a couple of good seasons in him. If I were a fox it would be Lambert over Ulloa.[/p][/quote]Fair point you make what about ulloa over Lambert for Brighton then[/p][/quote]I would take Lambert! Conelli98
  • Score: 2

3:42pm Fri 30 May 14

JeffLomer says...

Serious question for serious posters on here, do Brighton need lets say a silent investor to help move our club on to the next level, i am asking this question with a heavy heart and a loyal Brighton fan for 40 years, i just feel we need someone to invest some money for potential transfers, as i see it were are struggling to compete with teams coming down from the premiership who get parachute payments, were even struggling to compete with clubs like BOURNEMOUTH who we all no get no where near as the gates we get, we have the highest attendances in the league but we are probably about 15th with the budget for transfer spending, before people slate me over this question, no way am i saying i do not want TONY BLOOM running our club believe me i do, the guy is a Brighton fan through and through like we all are, and were lucky to have him here, a lot off clubs have silent investors at there clubs, it is just a question i no i will be slated by some for suggesting this but to move on to the next level would it be a bad thing for our club, great stadium great academy on the way, before someone says put your money in, i would but can not stretch to what i think the club may need, like i said this is not directed at TONY BLOOM I LOVE THE BLOKE FOR WHAT HE HAS DONE FOR OUR CLUB!!
Serious question for serious posters on here, do Brighton need lets say a silent investor to help move our club on to the next level, i am asking this question with a heavy heart and a loyal Brighton fan for 40 years, i just feel we need someone to invest some money for potential transfers, as i see it were are struggling to compete with teams coming down from the premiership who get parachute payments, were even struggling to compete with clubs like BOURNEMOUTH who we all no get no where near as the gates we get, we have the highest attendances in the league but we are probably about 15th with the budget for transfer spending, before people slate me over this question, no way am i saying i do not want TONY BLOOM running our club believe me i do, the guy is a Brighton fan through and through like we all are, and were lucky to have him here, a lot off clubs have silent investors at there clubs, it is just a question i no i will be slated by some for suggesting this but to move on to the next level would it be a bad thing for our club, great stadium great academy on the way, before someone says put your money in, i would but can not stretch to what i think the club may need, like i said this is not directed at TONY BLOOM I LOVE THE BLOKE FOR WHAT HE HAS DONE FOR OUR CLUB!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 1

4:03pm Fri 30 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

I offer my opinion in the hope that I don't put my foot in my mouth as I managed to do before correcting my self just the other day.

A silent partner investing in the club, yes if he buys shares in the club and is in it for the long haul, but why be silent. I could go for a new board member joining us, why not.

Taking such a step would only seem sensible, or even needed, if we are looking for success right now, if we are not, then I think Bloom has the resources to take us forward over the longer term. If the FFP continus to exist, pretty much in it's present form, the financial pressures could look very different in two or three years time, and that might work for us.
If the proposed infra structure (hotel ect) improvements get the go ahead we will have new revenue streams, so two years from now things could look different.

The new facility will help improve the young lads we have, (March and JFC ect) but will not produce new gems for maybe 3 years, so again it all depends on what our ambitions are for the coming two or three seasons.

Perhaps the day will come when the club releases a share issue with Bloom retaining 51% and over all control, at the right price, and if we are still in the Champ Div, those shares might look like a good long term investment.
I offer my opinion in the hope that I don't put my foot in my mouth as I managed to do before correcting my self just the other day. A silent partner investing in the club, yes if he buys shares in the club and is in it for the long haul, but why be silent. I could go for a new board member joining us, why not. Taking such a step would only seem sensible, or even needed, if we are looking for success right now, if we are not, then I think Bloom has the resources to take us forward over the longer term. If the FFP continus to exist, pretty much in it's present form, the financial pressures could look very different in two or three years time, and that might work for us. If the proposed infra structure (hotel ect) improvements get the go ahead we will have new revenue streams, so two years from now things could look different. The new facility will help improve the young lads we have, (March and JFC ect) but will not produce new gems for maybe 3 years, so again it all depends on what our ambitions are for the coming two or three seasons. Perhaps the day will come when the club releases a share issue with Bloom retaining 51% and over all control, at the right price, and if we are still in the Champ Div, those shares might look like a good long term investment. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

4:10pm Fri 30 May 14

bruce beckett says...

Tony Bloom has earned the right to run our club for as long as he likes. But to get to the next level, we probably will require some fresh investment in the club.

We've punched above our weight for the past two seasons, but with the number of clubs in the Championship benefitting from parachute payments, it's not a level playing field.

It will continue to be an uphill struggle to attract players – or keep our best players – when we are mid-table in the wages league.

We're running at a loss each year as it is, so even with the size of our crowds, we're not going to be able to compete with the Cardiffs and Norwichs of this world in the transfer market.

I guess the only way the new manager will have a large war chest to spend is if he/we decide to sell Ulloa and Buckley. Even then, Tony and the Board of Directors have every right to take some of that money to reduce their financial burden.
Tony Bloom has earned the right to run our club for as long as he likes. But to get to the next level, we probably will require some fresh investment in the club. We've punched above our weight for the past two seasons, but with the number of clubs in the Championship benefitting from parachute payments, it's not a level playing field. It will continue to be an uphill struggle to attract players – or keep our best players – when we are mid-table in the wages league. We're running at a loss each year as it is, so even with the size of our crowds, we're not going to be able to compete with the Cardiffs and Norwichs of this world in the transfer market. I guess the only way the new manager will have a large war chest to spend is if he/we decide to sell Ulloa and Buckley. Even then, Tony and the Board of Directors have every right to take some of that money to reduce their financial burden. bruce beckett
  • Score: 0

4:12pm Fri 30 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

For those saying Ulloa is unproven at Premier League level, well perhaps, as all players are unproven until they get the chance to prove themselves. However he does have an excellent record in matches against Premier League sides, which surely bodes well. Pace is not everything in football. It can be important but it means you have to compensate elsewhere.
For those saying Ulloa is unproven at Premier League level, well perhaps, as all players are unproven until they get the chance to prove themselves. However he does have an excellent record in matches against Premier League sides, which surely bodes well. Pace is not everything in football. It can be important but it means you have to compensate elsewhere. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

4:34pm Fri 30 May 14

ballantrrae says...

AlfieT wrote:
Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.
I see Sky are saying that the latest bid for Ulloa that we rejected from Leicester was reportedly for £5 million. Still think we should hold out for a minimum of the £7 million being mentioned.
Moving on to the appointment of a new Manager it was good to read that Sherwood is being/has been interviewed. We know (Barber has said) that the club wants a Manager who will continue to develop the young talent at the Amex.. Given Barber's mantra of being PL ready I imagine TB will want to appoint someone with either PL Managing or Coaching experience (or the equivalent) Personally I would favour somebody relatively young who is 'hungry' for the position and has not worked as the Manager of several clubs. Someone prepared to commit to the club long-term.
Judging purely on some of the names of potential candidates that have been circulating the calibre seems high. Therefore I have confidence that TB will make a good and significant appointment but would not be surprised if he made another unexpected one as with Poyet and Oscar.
I am equally certain that TB realises how important and perhaps pivotal the appointment is. It will send out a clear signal of where TB wants to take the club not only to us fans and the football world at large but most importantly also to first team 'target' signings and young players for our new Academy.
Still trying to stay patient but I am not expecting any announcement until the middle of next week. UTA.
.
[quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.[/p][/quote]I see Sky are saying that the latest bid for Ulloa that we rejected from Leicester was reportedly for £5 million. Still think we should hold out for a minimum of the £7 million being mentioned. Moving on to the appointment of a new Manager it was good to read that Sherwood is being/has been interviewed. We know (Barber has said) that the club wants a Manager who will continue to develop the young talent at the Amex.. Given Barber's mantra of being PL ready I imagine TB will want to appoint someone with either PL Managing or Coaching experience (or the equivalent) Personally I would favour somebody relatively young who is 'hungry' for the position and has not worked as the Manager of several clubs. Someone prepared to commit to the club long-term. Judging purely on some of the names of potential candidates that have been circulating the calibre seems high. Therefore I have confidence that TB will make a good and significant appointment but would not be surprised if he made another unexpected one as with Poyet and Oscar. I am equally certain that TB realises how important and perhaps pivotal the appointment is. It will send out a clear signal of where TB wants to take the club not only to us fans and the football world at large but most importantly also to first team 'target' signings and young players for our new Academy. Still trying to stay patient but I am not expecting any announcement until the middle of next week. UTA. . ballantrrae
  • Score: 4

4:36pm Fri 30 May 14

JeffLomer says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
I offer my opinion in the hope that I don't put my foot in my mouth as I managed to do before correcting my self just the other day.

A silent partner investing in the club, yes if he buys shares in the club and is in it for the long haul, but why be silent. I could go for a new board member joining us, why not.

Taking such a step would only seem sensible, or even needed, if we are looking for success right now, if we are not, then I think Bloom has the resources to take us forward over the longer term. If the FFP continus to exist, pretty much in it's present form, the financial pressures could look very different in two or three years time, and that might work for us.
If the proposed infra structure (hotel ect) improvements get the go ahead we will have new revenue streams, so two years from now things could look different.

The new facility will help improve the young lads we have, (March and JFC ect) but will not produce new gems for maybe 3 years, so again it all depends on what our ambitions are for the coming two or three seasons.

Perhaps the day will come when the club releases a share issue with Bloom retaining 51% and over all control, at the right price, and if we are still in the Champ Div, those shares might look like a good long term investment.
Glad you replied Vegas, like i said its nothing against Bloom it would never would be, there is about 40% off clubs in our league starting or still on parachute payments, thats my worry we can never compete with transfers or wages that is why i asked the question about a silent investor, Bruce Beckett totally agree what you wrote on your post!!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I offer my opinion in the hope that I don't put my foot in my mouth as I managed to do before correcting my self just the other day. A silent partner investing in the club, yes if he buys shares in the club and is in it for the long haul, but why be silent. I could go for a new board member joining us, why not. Taking such a step would only seem sensible, or even needed, if we are looking for success right now, if we are not, then I think Bloom has the resources to take us forward over the longer term. If the FFP continus to exist, pretty much in it's present form, the financial pressures could look very different in two or three years time, and that might work for us. If the proposed infra structure (hotel ect) improvements get the go ahead we will have new revenue streams, so two years from now things could look different. The new facility will help improve the young lads we have, (March and JFC ect) but will not produce new gems for maybe 3 years, so again it all depends on what our ambitions are for the coming two or three seasons. Perhaps the day will come when the club releases a share issue with Bloom retaining 51% and over all control, at the right price, and if we are still in the Champ Div, those shares might look like a good long term investment.[/p][/quote]Glad you replied Vegas, like i said its nothing against Bloom it would never would be, there is about 40% off clubs in our league starting or still on parachute payments, thats my worry we can never compete with transfers or wages that is why i asked the question about a silent investor, Bruce Beckett totally agree what you wrote on your post!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 3

5:06pm Fri 30 May 14

mark by the sea says...

ballantrrae wrote:
AlfieT wrote:
Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.
I see Sky are saying that the latest bid for Ulloa that we rejected from Leicester was reportedly for £5 million. Still think we should hold out for a minimum of the £7 million being mentioned.
Moving on to the appointment of a new Manager it was good to read that Sherwood is being/has been interviewed. We know (Barber has said) that the club wants a Manager who will continue to develop the young talent at the Amex.. Given Barber's mantra of being PL ready I imagine TB will want to appoint someone with either PL Managing or Coaching experience (or the equivalent) Personally I would favour somebody relatively young who is 'hungry' for the position and has not worked as the Manager of several clubs. Someone prepared to commit to the club long-term.
Judging purely on some of the names of potential candidates that have been circulating the calibre seems high. Therefore I have confidence that TB will make a good and significant appointment but would not be surprised if he made another unexpected one as with Poyet and Oscar.
I am equally certain that TB realises how important and perhaps pivotal the appointment is. It will send out a clear signal of where TB wants to take the club not only to us fans and the football world at large but most importantly also to first team 'target' signings and young players for our new Academy.
Still trying to stay patient but I am not expecting any announcement until the middle of next week. UTA.
.
7 million is the move Figure I believe, of course Leicester want to pay less, but they have nearly doubled there bid in two weeks,
The guy does not have pace, neither does lambert , however if he can notch 15 goals a season in the premier league, that will go a long way to staying up,
Is he worth 7 million? That does sound a lot of money , but if he signs a three year deal at 30k a week his salary of contract is 4.5 million.
I don't think that's a lot .
For example we paid 2.5 million for Cms And he is on 17k a week in the championship, over three years our spend is 5.5 million to Leicester spending 11.5 million in the premier league where they just guaranteed 100m even if they go down next season.
Who would you rather have in the premier league?
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.[/p][/quote]I see Sky are saying that the latest bid for Ulloa that we rejected from Leicester was reportedly for £5 million. Still think we should hold out for a minimum of the £7 million being mentioned. Moving on to the appointment of a new Manager it was good to read that Sherwood is being/has been interviewed. We know (Barber has said) that the club wants a Manager who will continue to develop the young talent at the Amex.. Given Barber's mantra of being PL ready I imagine TB will want to appoint someone with either PL Managing or Coaching experience (or the equivalent) Personally I would favour somebody relatively young who is 'hungry' for the position and has not worked as the Manager of several clubs. Someone prepared to commit to the club long-term. Judging purely on some of the names of potential candidates that have been circulating the calibre seems high. Therefore I have confidence that TB will make a good and significant appointment but would not be surprised if he made another unexpected one as with Poyet and Oscar. I am equally certain that TB realises how important and perhaps pivotal the appointment is. It will send out a clear signal of where TB wants to take the club not only to us fans and the football world at large but most importantly also to first team 'target' signings and young players for our new Academy. Still trying to stay patient but I am not expecting any announcement until the middle of next week. UTA. .[/p][/quote]7 million is the move Figure I believe, of course Leicester want to pay less, but they have nearly doubled there bid in two weeks, The guy does not have pace, neither does lambert , however if he can notch 15 goals a season in the premier league, that will go a long way to staying up, Is he worth 7 million? That does sound a lot of money , but if he signs a three year deal at 30k a week his salary of contract is 4.5 million. I don't think that's a lot . For example we paid 2.5 million for Cms And he is on 17k a week in the championship, over three years our spend is 5.5 million to Leicester spending 11.5 million in the premier league where they just guaranteed 100m even if they go down next season. Who would you rather have in the premier league? mark by the sea
  • Score: 4

5:11pm Fri 30 May 14

bruce beckett says...

Glad we finally agree on something, Jeff!

A lot of upheaval at the club during the past month. Bad enough losing your manager without losing your best players. Hopefully, we will have something to smile about before too long.

Enjoy your weekend.
Glad we finally agree on something, Jeff! A lot of upheaval at the club during the past month. Bad enough losing your manager without losing your best players. Hopefully, we will have something to smile about before too long. Enjoy your weekend. bruce beckett
  • Score: -1

5:16pm Fri 30 May 14

AlfieT says...

ballantrrae wrote:
AlfieT wrote:
Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.
I see Sky are saying that the latest bid for Ulloa that we rejected from Leicester was reportedly for £5 million. Still think we should hold out for a minimum of the £7 million being mentioned.
Moving on to the appointment of a new Manager it was good to read that Sherwood is being/has been interviewed. We know (Barber has said) that the club wants a Manager who will continue to develop the young talent at the Amex.. Given Barber's mantra of being PL ready I imagine TB will want to appoint someone with either PL Managing or Coaching experience (or the equivalent) Personally I would favour somebody relatively young who is 'hungry' for the position and has not worked as the Manager of several clubs. Someone prepared to commit to the club long-term.
Judging purely on some of the names of potential candidates that have been circulating the calibre seems high. Therefore I have confidence that TB will make a good and significant appointment but would not be surprised if he made another unexpected one as with Poyet and Oscar.
I am equally certain that TB realises how important and perhaps pivotal the appointment is. It will send out a clear signal of where TB wants to take the club not only to us fans and the football world at large but most importantly also to first team 'target' signings and young players for our new Academy.
Still trying to stay patient but I am not expecting any announcement until the middle of next week. UTA.
.
Appointment will be pivotal, the reward for Premiership football is massive and will take us to the next level. There will be serious interest in the Albion when that day comes, TB is a shrewd business man and I hope he is running this club for many years to come.
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: Leicester preparing a forth bid for big Leo apparently.[/p][/quote]I see Sky are saying that the latest bid for Ulloa that we rejected from Leicester was reportedly for £5 million. Still think we should hold out for a minimum of the £7 million being mentioned. Moving on to the appointment of a new Manager it was good to read that Sherwood is being/has been interviewed. We know (Barber has said) that the club wants a Manager who will continue to develop the young talent at the Amex.. Given Barber's mantra of being PL ready I imagine TB will want to appoint someone with either PL Managing or Coaching experience (or the equivalent) Personally I would favour somebody relatively young who is 'hungry' for the position and has not worked as the Manager of several clubs. Someone prepared to commit to the club long-term. Judging purely on some of the names of potential candidates that have been circulating the calibre seems high. Therefore I have confidence that TB will make a good and significant appointment but would not be surprised if he made another unexpected one as with Poyet and Oscar. I am equally certain that TB realises how important and perhaps pivotal the appointment is. It will send out a clear signal of where TB wants to take the club not only to us fans and the football world at large but most importantly also to first team 'target' signings and young players for our new Academy. Still trying to stay patient but I am not expecting any announcement until the middle of next week. UTA. .[/p][/quote]Appointment will be pivotal, the reward for Premiership football is massive and will take us to the next level. There will be serious interest in the Albion when that day comes, TB is a shrewd business man and I hope he is running this club for many years to come. AlfieT
  • Score: 3

5:21pm Fri 30 May 14

mark by the sea says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
For those saying Ulloa is unproven at Premier League level, well perhaps, as all players are unproven until they get the chance to prove themselves. However he does have an excellent record in matches against Premier League sides, which surely bodes well. Pace is not everything in football. It can be important but it means you have to compensate elsewhere.
I actually agree with you Arnie, ulloa has come to this country and hit the ground running, while a goal every other game is a outstanding count, people should remember the service over the last season has been terrible,
I would look at Andy cole record at united , on appear its tremendous , lots of goals in 5-0 wins, when he played against the big guns in Europe he struggled ..the guy was getting 4-5 clear chances every game, ulloa has lived off scraps , who knows at 7 million he could be cheap!
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: For those saying Ulloa is unproven at Premier League level, well perhaps, as all players are unproven until they get the chance to prove themselves. However he does have an excellent record in matches against Premier League sides, which surely bodes well. Pace is not everything in football. It can be important but it means you have to compensate elsewhere.[/p][/quote]I actually agree with you Arnie, ulloa has come to this country and hit the ground running, while a goal every other game is a outstanding count, people should remember the service over the last season has been terrible, I would look at Andy cole record at united , on appear its tremendous , lots of goals in 5-0 wins, when he played against the big guns in Europe he struggled ..the guy was getting 4-5 clear chances every game, ulloa has lived off scraps , who knows at 7 million he could be cheap! mark by the sea
  • Score: 3

5:28pm Fri 30 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
For those saying Ulloa is unproven at Premier League level, well perhaps, as all players are unproven until they get the chance to prove themselves. However he does have an excellent record in matches against Premier League sides, which surely bodes well. Pace is not everything in football. It can be important but it means you have to compensate elsewhere.
I actually agree with you Arnie, ulloa has come to this country and hit the ground running, while a goal every other game is a outstanding count, people should remember the service over the last season has been terrible,
I would look at Andy cole record at united , on appear its tremendous , lots of goals in 5-0 wins, when he played against the big guns in Europe he struggled ..the guy was getting 4-5 clear chances every game, ulloa has lived off scraps , who knows at 7 million he could be cheap!
This makes a very pleasant change :-)

I'd love to see hard stats about chances per goal amongst the strikers in the Championship over the last season. In a team that has struggled to find the back of the net his strike rate is nothing short of excellent.

£7m would be a good deal so long as we get a reliable replacement for less. But it's a gamble and if it fails it's a false economy.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: For those saying Ulloa is unproven at Premier League level, well perhaps, as all players are unproven until they get the chance to prove themselves. However he does have an excellent record in matches against Premier League sides, which surely bodes well. Pace is not everything in football. It can be important but it means you have to compensate elsewhere.[/p][/quote]I actually agree with you Arnie, ulloa has come to this country and hit the ground running, while a goal every other game is a outstanding count, people should remember the service over the last season has been terrible, I would look at Andy cole record at united , on appear its tremendous , lots of goals in 5-0 wins, when he played against the big guns in Europe he struggled ..the guy was getting 4-5 clear chances every game, ulloa has lived off scraps , who knows at 7 million he could be cheap![/p][/quote]This makes a very pleasant change :-) I'd love to see hard stats about chances per goal amongst the strikers in the Championship over the last season. In a team that has struggled to find the back of the net his strike rate is nothing short of excellent. £7m would be a good deal so long as we get a reliable replacement for less. But it's a gamble and if it fails it's a false economy. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 3

5:50pm Fri 30 May 14

mark by the sea says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
For those saying Ulloa is unproven at Premier League level, well perhaps, as all players are unproven until they get the chance to prove themselves. However he does have an excellent record in matches against Premier League sides, which surely bodes well. Pace is not everything in football. It can be important but it means you have to compensate elsewhere.
I actually agree with you Arnie, ulloa has come to this country and hit the ground running, while a goal every other game is a outstanding count, people should remember the service over the last season has been terrible,
I would look at Andy cole record at united , on appear its tremendous , lots of goals in 5-0 wins, when he played against the big guns in Europe he struggled ..the guy was getting 4-5 clear chances every game, ulloa has lived off scraps , who knows at 7 million he could be cheap!
This makes a very pleasant change :-)

I'd love to see hard stats about chances per goal amongst the strikers in the Championship over the last season. In a team that has struggled to find the back of the net his strike rate is nothing short of excellent.

£7m would be a good deal so long as we get a reliable replacement for less. But it's a gamble and if it fails it's a false economy.
Let's compare him to Rip van winkle at Norwich , they paid over 12 million for him and he looked extremely poor in my opinion, he may be younger but is on 30k a week for the next three years? And they got relegated, yes 7 million is a lot for a championship goal scorer, but peanuts if he keeps Leicester in the premier league! Who knows this time next year he could be moving again to a bigger club!
Obviously van winkle was only watched on YouTube , so he could be better !
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: For those saying Ulloa is unproven at Premier League level, well perhaps, as all players are unproven until they get the chance to prove themselves. However he does have an excellent record in matches against Premier League sides, which surely bodes well. Pace is not everything in football. It can be important but it means you have to compensate elsewhere.[/p][/quote]I actually agree with you Arnie, ulloa has come to this country and hit the ground running, while a goal every other game is a outstanding count, people should remember the service over the last season has been terrible, I would look at Andy cole record at united , on appear its tremendous , lots of goals in 5-0 wins, when he played against the big guns in Europe he struggled ..the guy was getting 4-5 clear chances every game, ulloa has lived off scraps , who knows at 7 million he could be cheap![/p][/quote]This makes a very pleasant change :-) I'd love to see hard stats about chances per goal amongst the strikers in the Championship over the last season. In a team that has struggled to find the back of the net his strike rate is nothing short of excellent. £7m would be a good deal so long as we get a reliable replacement for less. But it's a gamble and if it fails it's a false economy.[/p][/quote]Let's compare him to Rip van winkle at Norwich , they paid over 12 million for him and he looked extremely poor in my opinion, he may be younger but is on 30k a week for the next three years? And they got relegated, yes 7 million is a lot for a championship goal scorer, but peanuts if he keeps Leicester in the premier league! Who knows this time next year he could be moving again to a bigger club! Obviously van winkle was only watched on YouTube , so he could be better ! mark by the sea
  • Score: 2

5:59pm Fri 30 May 14

mark by the sea says...

100% correct yet again wrote:
His still posting insults to me on the Dean Cox story.He thinks we are in love MBTS because you don't reply to me lol haha.
I see saints are about to collect 70 million from selling three players all English, how many other clubs can do that? They have the lad chambers who is class, Gallagher the centreforward who is being watched by Chelsea, and this new kid who is electric over 10 yards, 16 years old being touted for the first team already! We have a massive gap to get even half way to that standard, .. I heard that hInsh tried to sign kids from the Bognor area and the parents gave him the cold shoulder, that's for Portsmouth , he is in charge of youth down there! God help those Pompey fans, they have had enough grief !
Now they have hInsh !
[quote][p][bold]100% correct yet again[/bold] wrote: His still posting insults to me on the Dean Cox story.He thinks we are in love MBTS because you don't reply to me lol haha.[/p][/quote]I see saints are about to collect 70 million from selling three players all English, how many other clubs can do that? They have the lad chambers who is class, Gallagher the centreforward who is being watched by Chelsea, and this new kid who is electric over 10 yards, 16 years old being touted for the first team already! We have a massive gap to get even half way to that standard, .. I heard that hInsh tried to sign kids from the Bognor area and the parents gave him the cold shoulder, that's for Portsmouth , he is in charge of youth down there! God help those Pompey fans, they have had enough grief ! Now they have hInsh ! mark by the sea
  • Score: 4

6:01pm Fri 30 May 14

JeffLomer says...

bruce beckett wrote:
Glad we finally agree on something, Jeff!

A lot of upheaval at the club during the past month. Bad enough losing your manager without losing your best players. Hopefully, we will have something to smile about before too long.

Enjoy your weekend.
Well Bruce like you say we agree on something what we also should agree on we need stability at our club hopefully next manager will be here for years to come, you also have a good weekend,
Up the Albion!!
[quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: Glad we finally agree on something, Jeff! A lot of upheaval at the club during the past month. Bad enough losing your manager without losing your best players. Hopefully, we will have something to smile about before too long. Enjoy your weekend.[/p][/quote]Well Bruce like you say we agree on something what we also should agree on we need stability at our club hopefully next manager will be here for years to come, you also have a good weekend, Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 0

6:02pm Fri 30 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

I would not be at all surpried if the offer of 5M by Leicester is their limit. Anything is possible, and they might come back with more, but they have also been looking at more exspensive players for the same role, and some have better CV's. If the hope is to get Ulloa before a new manger is appointed and says, 'jog on, it aint happening,' then they will come back with a bigger offer quickly, an offer around the 6.5M, but as I say, I think 5M might be their lot in the absense of any other prem club coming for him.

Agreeing that we need to get our manager quickly, I am looking forward to the window opening, only then will we have any idea as to who we might be able to borrow, no one (other clubs) is thinking about loanees right now as the focus is on buying, offering new deals and the let go lists.
If the money to pay loanee's wages comes from the transfer kitty, which I suspect it does, until we get some idea of who we can borrow and what the costs will be, we might hold back on some of our buying.
I would not be at all surpried if the offer of 5M by Leicester is their limit. Anything is possible, and they might come back with more, but they have also been looking at more exspensive players for the same role, and some have better CV's. If the hope is to get Ulloa before a new manger is appointed and says, 'jog on, it aint happening,' then they will come back with a bigger offer quickly, an offer around the 6.5M, but as I say, I think 5M might be their lot in the absense of any other prem club coming for him. Agreeing that we need to get our manager quickly, I am looking forward to the window opening, only then will we have any idea as to who we might be able to borrow, no one (other clubs) is thinking about loanees right now as the focus is on buying, offering new deals and the let go lists. If the money to pay loanee's wages comes from the transfer kitty, which I suspect it does, until we get some idea of who we can borrow and what the costs will be, we might hold back on some of our buying. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -1

6:12pm Fri 30 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
For those saying Ulloa is unproven at Premier League level, well perhaps, as all players are unproven until they get the chance to prove themselves. However he does have an excellent record in matches against Premier League sides, which surely bodes well. Pace is not everything in football. It can be important but it means you have to compensate elsewhere.
I actually agree with you Arnie, ulloa has come to this country and hit the ground running, while a goal every other game is a outstanding count, people should remember the service over the last season has been terrible,
I would look at Andy cole record at united , on appear its tremendous , lots of goals in 5-0 wins, when he played against the big guns in Europe he struggled ..the guy was getting 4-5 clear chances every game, ulloa has lived off scraps , who knows at 7 million he could be cheap!
This makes a very pleasant change :-)

I'd love to see hard stats about chances per goal amongst the strikers in the Championship over the last season. In a team that has struggled to find the back of the net his strike rate is nothing short of excellent.

£7m would be a good deal so long as we get a reliable replacement for less. But it's a gamble and if it fails it's a false economy.
Let's compare him to Rip van winkle at Norwich , they paid over 12 million for him and he looked extremely poor in my opinion, he may be younger but is on 30k a week for the next three years? And they got relegated, yes 7 million is a lot for a championship goal scorer, but peanuts if he keeps Leicester in the premier league! Who knows this time next year he could be moving again to a bigger club!
Obviously van winkle was only watched on YouTube , so he could be better !
:-) I'll give you that one!

It's funny how sometimes a move fails spectacularly, despite the player in question actually being decent. RVW had a very, very record previously, but for one reason or another it just hasn't happened at Norwich. It just shows that there are no guarantees.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: For those saying Ulloa is unproven at Premier League level, well perhaps, as all players are unproven until they get the chance to prove themselves. However he does have an excellent record in matches against Premier League sides, which surely bodes well. Pace is not everything in football. It can be important but it means you have to compensate elsewhere.[/p][/quote]I actually agree with you Arnie, ulloa has come to this country and hit the ground running, while a goal every other game is a outstanding count, people should remember the service over the last season has been terrible, I would look at Andy cole record at united , on appear its tremendous , lots of goals in 5-0 wins, when he played against the big guns in Europe he struggled ..the guy was getting 4-5 clear chances every game, ulloa has lived off scraps , who knows at 7 million he could be cheap![/p][/quote]This makes a very pleasant change :-) I'd love to see hard stats about chances per goal amongst the strikers in the Championship over the last season. In a team that has struggled to find the back of the net his strike rate is nothing short of excellent. £7m would be a good deal so long as we get a reliable replacement for less. But it's a gamble and if it fails it's a false economy.[/p][/quote]Let's compare him to Rip van winkle at Norwich , they paid over 12 million for him and he looked extremely poor in my opinion, he may be younger but is on 30k a week for the next three years? And they got relegated, yes 7 million is a lot for a championship goal scorer, but peanuts if he keeps Leicester in the premier league! Who knows this time next year he could be moving again to a bigger club! Obviously van winkle was only watched on YouTube , so he could be better ![/p][/quote]:-) I'll give you that one! It's funny how sometimes a move fails spectacularly, despite the player in question actually being decent. RVW had a very, very record previously, but for one reason or another it just hasn't happened at Norwich. It just shows that there are no guarantees. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

6:33pm Fri 30 May 14

Bha1901ch says...

And we still wait for the chosen one
Becoming a joke, 1 month until pre season training starts, low key pre season friendlies arrange, need to go shopping soon as all quality available players will be snapped up, what is going on at our beloved club, patience wearing thin, too much speculation, come on Mr Bloom put these issues to bed sooner rather than later, the new manager needs to choose the rebuilding of the squad, not the people from above, let them do the business side not the playing side, we need to be a side that the other clubs dont want to play next season not to fanny around with the play offs, we need to go for the top two
Two years dissappointments, lets take the FA cup seriously, us fans want glory, all well and good having the best ground, best training facilities but none of these mean anything without a committed manager and players.
Rant over !
And we still wait for the chosen one Becoming a joke, 1 month until pre season training starts, low key pre season friendlies arrange, need to go shopping soon as all quality available players will be snapped up, what is going on at our beloved club, patience wearing thin, too much speculation, come on Mr Bloom put these issues to bed sooner rather than later, the new manager needs to choose the rebuilding of the squad, not the people from above, let them do the business side not the playing side, we need to be a side that the other clubs dont want to play next season not to fanny around with the play offs, we need to go for the top two Two years dissappointments, lets take the FA cup seriously, us fans want glory, all well and good having the best ground, best training facilities but none of these mean anything without a committed manager and players. Rant over ! Bha1901ch
  • Score: -4

6:41pm Fri 30 May 14

Albion In Staffs says...

JeffLomer wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
I offer my opinion in the hope that I don't put my foot in my mouth as I managed to do before correcting my self just the other day.

A silent partner investing in the club, yes if he buys shares in the club and is in it for the long haul, but why be silent. I could go for a new board member joining us, why not.

Taking such a step would only seem sensible, or even needed, if we are looking for success right now, if we are not, then I think Bloom has the resources to take us forward over the longer term. If the FFP continus to exist, pretty much in it's present form, the financial pressures could look very different in two or three years time, and that might work for us.
If the proposed infra structure (hotel ect) improvements get the go ahead we will have new revenue streams, so two years from now things could look different.

The new facility will help improve the young lads we have, (March and JFC ect) but will not produce new gems for maybe 3 years, so again it all depends on what our ambitions are for the coming two or three seasons.

Perhaps the day will come when the club releases a share issue with Bloom retaining 51% and over all control, at the right price, and if we are still in the Champ Div, those shares might look like a good long term investment.
Glad you replied Vegas, like i said its nothing against Bloom it would never would be, there is about 40% off clubs in our league starting or still on parachute payments, thats my worry we can never compete with transfers or wages that is why i asked the question about a silent investor, Bruce Beckett totally agree what you wrote on your post!!
I can't see TB relinquishing a jot of his exclusive holding, let alone 49% of it.
And here's why I think that:
For starters, why would he sell any of his holding just to invest the 'new money' in the team? It doesn't make business sense because he loses both ways. After ploughing in millions to build a ground, training ground and to accrue general equity which he owns exclusively, he then loses a slice of that to a new investor AND in doing so, can't pay himself back for all the loans because it's all going to team building. Suddenly, he has a partner and less control, but he's still owed millions and now owns say, 60% of what he did.
He has nothing to gain by doing that and in the long term neither does the club because the process simply pours money into a big black hole without consideration for long-term stability. TB gets slapped in the face whichever way he turns, and if the gamble fails, we're left with TWO owners, a potential power struggle and a business model that relies on more investment to keep it turning.
When the time comes for external investment over and above commercial partnerships, or just for TB to take a back seat, my view is he'll simply sell the lot but he has nothing to gain from selling slices.
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I offer my opinion in the hope that I don't put my foot in my mouth as I managed to do before correcting my self just the other day. A silent partner investing in the club, yes if he buys shares in the club and is in it for the long haul, but why be silent. I could go for a new board member joining us, why not. Taking such a step would only seem sensible, or even needed, if we are looking for success right now, if we are not, then I think Bloom has the resources to take us forward over the longer term. If the FFP continus to exist, pretty much in it's present form, the financial pressures could look very different in two or three years time, and that might work for us. If the proposed infra structure (hotel ect) improvements get the go ahead we will have new revenue streams, so two years from now things could look different. The new facility will help improve the young lads we have, (March and JFC ect) but will not produce new gems for maybe 3 years, so again it all depends on what our ambitions are for the coming two or three seasons. Perhaps the day will come when the club releases a share issue with Bloom retaining 51% and over all control, at the right price, and if we are still in the Champ Div, those shares might look like a good long term investment.[/p][/quote]Glad you replied Vegas, like i said its nothing against Bloom it would never would be, there is about 40% off clubs in our league starting or still on parachute payments, thats my worry we can never compete with transfers or wages that is why i asked the question about a silent investor, Bruce Beckett totally agree what you wrote on your post!![/p][/quote]I can't see TB relinquishing a jot of his exclusive holding, let alone 49% of it. And here's why I think that: For starters, why would he sell any of his holding just to invest the 'new money' in the team? It doesn't make business sense because he loses both ways. After ploughing in millions to build a ground, training ground and to accrue general equity which he owns exclusively, he then loses a slice of that to a new investor AND in doing so, can't pay himself back for all the loans because it's all going to team building. Suddenly, he has a partner and less control, but he's still owed millions and now owns say, 60% of what he did. He has nothing to gain by doing that and in the long term neither does the club because the process simply pours money into a big black hole without consideration for long-term stability. TB gets slapped in the face whichever way he turns, and if the gamble fails, we're left with TWO owners, a potential power struggle and a business model that relies on more investment to keep it turning. When the time comes for external investment over and above commercial partnerships, or just for TB to take a back seat, my view is he'll simply sell the lot but he has nothing to gain from selling slices. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 0

6:41pm Fri 30 May 14

gordongull says...

Anyone advocating new investment in the team should realize that under Financial Fair Play, it is not an option.
In the Championship there is a 'breakeven' model which places limits on losses and shareholder equity investment.
New investors are not exempt from the rules,
Substantial investment = substantial losses.
The maximum losses allowed for 2013-2014 are £3m. ( Or £8m if the owner injects equity of £5m to cover the amount between £3m and £8m.).
These figures are to be reduced next season, limiting even further the amount of permitted losses.
What this means to B&HA is that unless we attract a sponsorship deal worth £30m/year or increase the price of a match ticket to £100, we are not allowed to buy a place in the Premier League.
Anyone advocating new investment in the team should realize that under Financial Fair Play, it is not an option. In the Championship there is a 'breakeven' model which places limits on losses and shareholder equity investment. New investors are not exempt from the rules, Substantial investment = substantial losses. The maximum losses allowed for 2013-2014 are £3m. ( Or £8m if the owner injects equity of £5m to cover the amount between £3m and £8m.). These figures are to be reduced next season, limiting even further the amount of permitted losses. What this means to B&HA is that unless we attract a sponsorship deal worth £30m/year or increase the price of a match ticket to £100, we are not allowed to buy a place in the Premier League. gordongull
  • Score: 2

6:54pm Fri 30 May 14

Conelli98 says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
For those saying Ulloa is unproven at Premier League level, well perhaps, as all players are unproven until they get the chance to prove themselves. However he does have an excellent record in matches against Premier League sides, which surely bodes well. Pace is not everything in football. It can be important but it means you have to compensate elsewhere.
I understand what you are saying regards to Ulloa, but he has to be played to his full strengths then. He was used as a target man last season but was often found out very wide in the last third. Your right pace is not everything but look at Chris Martin at Derby not the quickest but because Derby broke at such speed he was always in the right place at the right time. We had a abundant amount of speed in Buckley, Lingard, Lua Lua and March but they were not utilised to there maximum potential because of Our style of play!!
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: For those saying Ulloa is unproven at Premier League level, well perhaps, as all players are unproven until they get the chance to prove themselves. However he does have an excellent record in matches against Premier League sides, which surely bodes well. Pace is not everything in football. It can be important but it means you have to compensate elsewhere.[/p][/quote]I understand what you are saying regards to Ulloa, but he has to be played to his full strengths then. He was used as a target man last season but was often found out very wide in the last third. Your right pace is not everything but look at Chris Martin at Derby not the quickest but because Derby broke at such speed he was always in the right place at the right time. We had a abundant amount of speed in Buckley, Lingard, Lua Lua and March but they were not utilised to there maximum potential because of Our style of play!! Conelli98
  • Score: 3

7:03pm Fri 30 May 14

Albion In Staffs says...

gordongull wrote:
Anyone advocating new investment in the team should realize that under Financial Fair Play, it is not an option.
In the Championship there is a 'breakeven' model which places limits on losses and shareholder equity investment.
New investors are not exempt from the rules,
Substantial investment = substantial losses.
The maximum losses allowed for 2013-2014 are £3m. ( Or £8m if the owner injects equity of £5m to cover the amount between £3m and £8m.).
These figures are to be reduced next season, limiting even further the amount of permitted losses.
What this means to B&HA is that unless we attract a sponsorship deal worth £30m/year or increase the price of a match ticket to £100, we are not allowed to buy a place in the Premier League.
Substantial investment = substantial losses.
???????
Please explain.....
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: Anyone advocating new investment in the team should realize that under Financial Fair Play, it is not an option. In the Championship there is a 'breakeven' model which places limits on losses and shareholder equity investment. New investors are not exempt from the rules, Substantial investment = substantial losses. The maximum losses allowed for 2013-2014 are £3m. ( Or £8m if the owner injects equity of £5m to cover the amount between £3m and £8m.). These figures are to be reduced next season, limiting even further the amount of permitted losses. What this means to B&HA is that unless we attract a sponsorship deal worth £30m/year or increase the price of a match ticket to £100, we are not allowed to buy a place in the Premier League.[/p][/quote]Substantial investment = substantial losses. ??????? Please explain..... Albion In Staffs
  • Score: -1

7:17pm Fri 30 May 14

East of CrawleyDown says...

gordongull wrote:
Anyone advocating new investment in the team should realize that under Financial Fair Play, it is not an option.
In the Championship there is a 'breakeven' model which places limits on losses and shareholder equity investment.
New investors are not exempt from the rules,
Substantial investment = substantial losses.
The maximum losses allowed forBut meanwhile other clubs are spending what they want to get to the prem, Leicester and QPR for starters, from what you're saying our hopes and dreams have gone down the drain because of stupid rules that most clubs are ignoring. If we have the money we should be allowed to spend it on the players we want if we can afford them.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: Anyone advocating new investment in the team should realize that under Financial Fair Play, it is not an option. In the Championship there is a 'breakeven' model which places limits on losses and shareholder equity investment. New investors are not exempt from the rules, Substantial investment = substantial losses. The maximum losses allowed forBut meanwhile other clubs are spending what they want to get to the prem, Leicester and QPR for starters, from what you're saying our hopes and dreams have gone down the drain because of stupid rules that most clubs are ignoring. If we have the money we should be allowed to spend it on the players we want if we can afford them. East of CrawleyDown
  • Score: 0

7:43pm Fri 30 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

Conelli98 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
cybergu11y wrote: About an hour ago now, Facebook informed me that a press conference has been called by the club for mid day tomorrow. Even if it is not to announce a new manager, it must be something important. Is The Argus not invited? Or are they just slow in their reporting?
I think the new kit is being unveiled tomorrow as Errea deal expires tomorrow! Never know new manager and new kit!!!
There is also the little matter of tellig us what the name is that will go over the door of our new training facility.
'Brighton and Hove Albion Football Club Training Ground 'would be my guess Vegas!😛
yes that does have a certain appeal, but just maybe the people that have bought the naming rights just might want to see their name mentioned too. What do you think of the latest rejected offer for Ulloa?
I would be very surprised if they come back with anymore money. IS Leo really a £6/7M player? I would take £5m plus Wood if player wanted to come this way. It would be interesting to see if Sunderland came in with bid for Ulloa and Buckley. Would you take £10M for the pair?...I would!
So would I!
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cybergu11y[/bold] wrote: About an hour ago now, Facebook informed me that a press conference has been called by the club for mid day tomorrow. Even if it is not to announce a new manager, it must be something important. Is The Argus not invited? Or are they just slow in their reporting?[/p][/quote]I think the new kit is being unveiled tomorrow as Errea deal expires tomorrow! Never know new manager and new kit!!![/p][/quote]There is also the little matter of tellig us what the name is that will go over the door of our new training facility.[/p][/quote]'Brighton and Hove Albion Football Club Training Ground 'would be my guess Vegas!😛[/p][/quote]yes that does have a certain appeal, but just maybe the people that have bought the naming rights just might want to see their name mentioned too. What do you think of the latest rejected offer for Ulloa?[/p][/quote]I would be very surprised if they come back with anymore money. IS Leo really a £6/7M player? I would take £5m plus Wood if player wanted to come this way. It would be interesting to see if Sunderland came in with bid for Ulloa and Buckley. Would you take £10M for the pair?...I would![/p][/quote]So would I! Captain Haddock
  • Score: 3

7:47pm Fri 30 May 14

gordongull says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
gordongull wrote:
Anyone advocating new investment in the team should realize that under Financial Fair Play, it is not an option.
In the Championship there is a 'breakeven' model which places limits on losses and shareholder equity investment.
New investors are not exempt from the rules,
Substantial investment = substantial losses.
The maximum losses allowed for 2013-2014 are £3m. ( Or £8m if the owner injects equity of £5m to cover the amount between £3m and £8m.).
These figures are to be reduced next season, limiting even further the amount of permitted losses.
What this means to B&HA is that unless we attract a sponsorship deal worth £30m/year or increase the price of a match ticket to £100, we are not allowed to buy a place in the Premier League.
Substantial investment = substantial losses.
???????
Please explain.....
Vincent Tan's Cardiff City won the Championship in season 2012-2013 at the cost of a £31m loss while at Hull City Assem Allam financed a loss of £26m so Steve Bruce could sign players good enough to finish second.
There are a number of other owners who have been bankrolling huge losses to assemble a squad capable of promotion.
Starting with season 2013-2014, this is no longer allowed under the Financial Fair Play rules.
Investment in Infrastructure and youth development is excluded from the FFP calculation, but the costs associated with buying players, and paying their wages are taken into consideration when assessing a club's 'Fair Play Result'.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: Anyone advocating new investment in the team should realize that under Financial Fair Play, it is not an option. In the Championship there is a 'breakeven' model which places limits on losses and shareholder equity investment. New investors are not exempt from the rules, Substantial investment = substantial losses. The maximum losses allowed for 2013-2014 are £3m. ( Or £8m if the owner injects equity of £5m to cover the amount between £3m and £8m.). These figures are to be reduced next season, limiting even further the amount of permitted losses. What this means to B&HA is that unless we attract a sponsorship deal worth £30m/year or increase the price of a match ticket to £100, we are not allowed to buy a place in the Premier League.[/p][/quote]Substantial investment = substantial losses. ??????? Please explain.....[/p][/quote]Vincent Tan's Cardiff City won the Championship in season 2012-2013 at the cost of a £31m loss while at Hull City Assem Allam financed a loss of £26m so Steve Bruce could sign players good enough to finish second. There are a number of other owners who have been bankrolling huge losses to assemble a squad capable of promotion. Starting with season 2013-2014, this is no longer allowed under the Financial Fair Play rules. Investment in Infrastructure and youth development is excluded from the FFP calculation, but the costs associated with buying players, and paying their wages are taken into consideration when assessing a club's 'Fair Play Result'. gordongull
  • Score: 3

7:51pm Fri 30 May 14

gordongull says...

East of CrawleyDown wrote:
gordongull wrote:
Anyone advocating new investment in the team should realize that under Financial Fair Play, it is not an option.
In the Championship there is a 'breakeven' model which places limits on losses and shareholder equity investment.
New investors are not exempt from the rules,
Substantial investment = substantial losses.
The maximum losses allowed forBut meanwhile other clubs are spending what they want to get to the prem, Leicester and QPR for starters, from what you're saying our hopes and dreams have gone down the drain because of stupid rules that most clubs are ignoring. If we have the money we should be allowed to spend it on the players we want if we can afford them.Don't shoot the messenger.
[quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: Anyone advocating new investment in the team should realize that under Financial Fair Play, it is not an option. In the Championship there is a 'breakeven' model which places limits on losses and shareholder equity investment. New investors are not exempt from the rules, Substantial investment = substantial losses. The maximum losses allowed forBut meanwhile other clubs are spending what they want to get to the prem, Leicester and QPR for starters, from what you're saying our hopes and dreams have gone down the drain because of stupid rules that most clubs are ignoring. If we have the money we should be allowed to spend it on the players we want if we can afford them.[/p][/quote]Don't shoot the messenger. gordongull
  • Score: 0

7:56pm Fri 30 May 14

JeffLomer says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
I offer my opinion in the hope that I don't put my foot in my mouth as I managed to do before correcting my self just the other day.

A silent partner investing in the club, yes if he buys shares in the club and is in it for the long haul, but why be silent. I could go for a new board member joining us, why not.

Taking such a step would only seem sensible, or even needed, if we are looking for success right now, if we are not, then I think Bloom has the resources to take us forward over the longer term. If the FFP continus to exist, pretty much in it's present form, the financial pressures could look very different in two or three years time, and that might work for us.
If the proposed infra structure (hotel ect) improvements get the go ahead we will have new revenue streams, so two years from now things could look different.

The new facility will help improve the young lads we have, (March and JFC ect) but will not produce new gems for maybe 3 years, so again it all depends on what our ambitions are for the coming two or three seasons.

Perhaps the day will come when the club releases a share issue with Bloom retaining 51% and over all control, at the right price, and if we are still in the Champ Div, those shares might look like a good long term investment.
Glad you replied Vegas, like i said its nothing against Bloom it would never would be, there is about 40% off clubs in our league starting or still on parachute payments, thats my worry we can never compete with transfers or wages that is why i asked the question about a silent investor, Bruce Beckett totally agree what you wrote on your post!!
I can't see TB relinquishing a jot of his exclusive holding, let alone 49% of it.
And here's why I think that:
For starters, why would he sell any of his holding just to invest the 'new money' in the team? It doesn't make business sense because he loses both ways. After ploughing in millions to build a ground, training ground and to accrue general equity which he owns exclusively, he then loses a slice of that to a new investor AND in doing so, can't pay himself back for all the loans because it's all going to team building. Suddenly, he has a partner and less control, but he's still owed millions and now owns say, 60% of what he did.
He has nothing to gain by doing that and in the long term neither does the club because the process simply pours money into a big black hole without consideration for long-term stability. TB gets slapped in the face whichever way he turns, and if the gamble fails, we're left with TWO owners, a potential power struggle and a business model that relies on more investment to keep it turning.
When the time comes for external investment over and above commercial partnerships, or just for TB to take a back seat, my view is he'll simply sell the lot but he has nothing to gain from selling slices.
Fair point you make on your post, I asked the question because off more about the parachute payments that clubs are receiving, think they have a massive advantage over the other teams
Up the Albion!!
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I offer my opinion in the hope that I don't put my foot in my mouth as I managed to do before correcting my self just the other day. A silent partner investing in the club, yes if he buys shares in the club and is in it for the long haul, but why be silent. I could go for a new board member joining us, why not. Taking such a step would only seem sensible, or even needed, if we are looking for success right now, if we are not, then I think Bloom has the resources to take us forward over the longer term. If the FFP continus to exist, pretty much in it's present form, the financial pressures could look very different in two or three years time, and that might work for us. If the proposed infra structure (hotel ect) improvements get the go ahead we will have new revenue streams, so two years from now things could look different. The new facility will help improve the young lads we have, (March and JFC ect) but will not produce new gems for maybe 3 years, so again it all depends on what our ambitions are for the coming two or three seasons. Perhaps the day will come when the club releases a share issue with Bloom retaining 51% and over all control, at the right price, and if we are still in the Champ Div, those shares might look like a good long term investment.[/p][/quote]Glad you replied Vegas, like i said its nothing against Bloom it would never would be, there is about 40% off clubs in our league starting or still on parachute payments, thats my worry we can never compete with transfers or wages that is why i asked the question about a silent investor, Bruce Beckett totally agree what you wrote on your post!![/p][/quote]I can't see TB relinquishing a jot of his exclusive holding, let alone 49% of it. And here's why I think that: For starters, why would he sell any of his holding just to invest the 'new money' in the team? It doesn't make business sense because he loses both ways. After ploughing in millions to build a ground, training ground and to accrue general equity which he owns exclusively, he then loses a slice of that to a new investor AND in doing so, can't pay himself back for all the loans because it's all going to team building. Suddenly, he has a partner and less control, but he's still owed millions and now owns say, 60% of what he did. He has nothing to gain by doing that and in the long term neither does the club because the process simply pours money into a big black hole without consideration for long-term stability. TB gets slapped in the face whichever way he turns, and if the gamble fails, we're left with TWO owners, a potential power struggle and a business model that relies on more investment to keep it turning. When the time comes for external investment over and above commercial partnerships, or just for TB to take a back seat, my view is he'll simply sell the lot but he has nothing to gain from selling slices.[/p][/quote]Fair point you make on your post, I asked the question because off more about the parachute payments that clubs are receiving, think they have a massive advantage over the other teams Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: -1

7:56pm Fri 30 May 14

gordongull says...

Don't know what happened there, East of Crawley down, but my message was, ''Don't shoot the messenger''
Don't know what happened there, East of Crawley down, but my message was, ''Don't shoot the messenger'' gordongull
  • Score: 0

8:30pm Fri 30 May 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

Conelli98 wrote:
Tim Sherwood with Ferdinand and Ramsey would be great for club. Chris Ramsey was very well thought of by Tottenham in bringing their development players through.
I think it's inevitable that Ulloa will leave so bring back Woods to work alongside CMS. Becchio would be a good shout and if Bobby came back to play a bit part role and sell some shirts that would be the forward department sorted!
Ramsey was a great lad when he played for us so it would be good to have an ex player back who has a very good reputation with young players.
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Tim Sherwood with Ferdinand and Ramsey would be great for club. Chris Ramsey was very well thought of by Tottenham in bringing their development players through. I think it's inevitable that Ulloa will leave so bring back Woods to work alongside CMS. Becchio would be a good shout and if Bobby came back to play a bit part role and sell some shirts that would be the forward department sorted![/p][/quote]Ramsey was a great lad when he played for us so it would be good to have an ex player back who has a very good reputation with young players. WisdomSpeaks
  • Score: 2

8:31pm Fri 30 May 14

gordongull says...

Something weird happening with you post, East of Crawley Down, it won't separate the quotes.

You say if we have the money, we should be allowed to spend it on the players we want, but if that means going into debt, it is a risky strategy, because there are only three promotion places.
If clubs need to throw £30m at the team to buy automatic promotion, (the going rate in 2012-2013), there could be a lot of 'Portsmouths' waiting to happen.
That is why FFP was introduced, to stop clubs from risking their future on a tilt at the top flight, and to create a more level playing field. The problem is, there will never be a level playing field as long as the relegated clubs receive parachute payments.
Something weird happening with you post, East of Crawley Down, it won't separate the quotes. You say if we have the money, we should be allowed to spend it on the players we want, but if that means going into debt, it is a risky strategy, because there are only three promotion places. If clubs need to throw £30m at the team to buy automatic promotion, (the going rate in 2012-2013), there could be a lot of 'Portsmouths' waiting to happen. That is why FFP was introduced, to stop clubs from risking their future on a tilt at the top flight, and to create a more level playing field. The problem is, there will never be a level playing field as long as the relegated clubs receive parachute payments. gordongull
  • Score: 0

8:47pm Fri 30 May 14

East of CrawleyDown says...

gordongull wrote:
Something weird happening with you post, East of Crawley Down, it won't separate the quotes.

You say if we have the money, we should be allowed to spend it on the players we want, but if that means going into debt, it is a risky strategy, because there are only three promotion places.
If clubs need to throw £30m at the team to buy automatic promotion, (the going rate in 2012-2013), there could be a lot of 'Portsmouths' waiting to happen.
That is why FFP was introduced, to stop clubs from risking their future on a tilt at the top flight, and to create a more level playing field. The problem is, there will never be a level playing field as long as the relegated clubs receive parachute payments.
Yep the site is doing something strange, anyway yes I know what you're saying, but we deserve the chance to spend whatever is necessary, as long as it doesn't put the club in financial trouble of course, that is my view.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: Something weird happening with you post, East of Crawley Down, it won't separate the quotes. You say if we have the money, we should be allowed to spend it on the players we want, but if that means going into debt, it is a risky strategy, because there are only three promotion places. If clubs need to throw £30m at the team to buy automatic promotion, (the going rate in 2012-2013), there could be a lot of 'Portsmouths' waiting to happen. That is why FFP was introduced, to stop clubs from risking their future on a tilt at the top flight, and to create a more level playing field. The problem is, there will never be a level playing field as long as the relegated clubs receive parachute payments.[/p][/quote]Yep the site is doing something strange, anyway yes I know what you're saying, but we deserve the chance to spend whatever is necessary, as long as it doesn't put the club in financial trouble of course, that is my view. East of CrawleyDown
  • Score: 0

10:43pm Fri 30 May 14

ringtone says...

gordongull wrote:
Something weird happening with you post, East of Crawley Down, it won't separate the quotes.

You say if we have the money, we should be allowed to spend it on the players we want, but if that means going into debt, it is a risky strategy, because there are only three promotion places.
If clubs need to throw £30m at the team to buy automatic promotion, (the going rate in 2012-2013), there could be a lot of 'Portsmouths' waiting to happen.
That is why FFP was introduced, to stop clubs from risking their future on a tilt at the top flight, and to create a more level playing field. The problem is, there will never be a level playing field as long as the relegated clubs receive parachute payments.
And where can we find a level playing field in european club football?

Maybe the Israelli League that so many unemployed brighton fans watch and got their first glimpse of Oscar the legend.

I had high hopes for you gordongull but have turned into Vegas`s more boring brother.

FFP, FFP, FFP, BLAH, BLAH
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: Something weird happening with you post, East of Crawley Down, it won't separate the quotes. You say if we have the money, we should be allowed to spend it on the players we want, but if that means going into debt, it is a risky strategy, because there are only three promotion places. If clubs need to throw £30m at the team to buy automatic promotion, (the going rate in 2012-2013), there could be a lot of 'Portsmouths' waiting to happen. That is why FFP was introduced, to stop clubs from risking their future on a tilt at the top flight, and to create a more level playing field. The problem is, there will never be a level playing field as long as the relegated clubs receive parachute payments.[/p][/quote]And where can we find a level playing field in european club football? Maybe the Israelli League that so many unemployed brighton fans watch and got their first glimpse of Oscar the legend. I had high hopes for you gordongull but have turned into Vegas`s more boring brother. FFP, FFP, FFP, BLAH, BLAH ringtone
  • Score: 1

5:37am Sat 31 May 14

Albion In Staffs says...

gordongull wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
gordongull wrote:
Anyone advocating new investment in the team should realize that under Financial Fair Play, it is not an option.
In the Championship there is a 'breakeven' model which places limits on losses and shareholder equity investment.
New investors are not exempt from the rules,
Substantial investment = substantial losses.
The maximum losses allowed for 2013-2014 are £3m. ( Or £8m if the owner injects equity of £5m to cover the amount between £3m and £8m.).
These figures are to be reduced next season, limiting even further the amount of permitted losses.
What this means to B&HA is that unless we attract a sponsorship deal worth £30m/year or increase the price of a match ticket to £100, we are not allowed to buy a place in the Premier League.
Substantial investment = substantial losses.
???????
Please explain.....
Vincent Tan's Cardiff City won the Championship in season 2012-2013 at the cost of a £31m loss while at Hull City Assem Allam financed a loss of £26m so Steve Bruce could sign players good enough to finish second.
There are a number of other owners who have been bankrolling huge losses to assemble a squad capable of promotion.
Starting with season 2013-2014, this is no longer allowed under the Financial Fair Play rules.
Investment in Infrastructure and youth development is excluded from the FFP calculation, but the costs associated with buying players, and paying their wages are taken into consideration when assessing a club's 'Fair Play Result'.
Right, that's clear, which means I think you're confusing existing owners who prop up the losses to a certain extent (and your explanation of how they can do that is correct as I understand it) with a new investor.
If a club exchanges equity for investment, the new money becomes part and parcel of the accounting process. If someone puts in £10m the club's income for accounting purposes is boosted. FFP is relevant when that money is spent.
Anyway, it's not going to happen at our place. As I've mentioned in an earlier post, I can't see TB relinquishing ANY equity in the club to a potential partner.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: Anyone advocating new investment in the team should realize that under Financial Fair Play, it is not an option. In the Championship there is a 'breakeven' model which places limits on losses and shareholder equity investment. New investors are not exempt from the rules, Substantial investment = substantial losses. The maximum losses allowed for 2013-2014 are £3m. ( Or £8m if the owner injects equity of £5m to cover the amount between £3m and £8m.). These figures are to be reduced next season, limiting even further the amount of permitted losses. What this means to B&HA is that unless we attract a sponsorship deal worth £30m/year or increase the price of a match ticket to £100, we are not allowed to buy a place in the Premier League.[/p][/quote]Substantial investment = substantial losses. ??????? Please explain.....[/p][/quote]Vincent Tan's Cardiff City won the Championship in season 2012-2013 at the cost of a £31m loss while at Hull City Assem Allam financed a loss of £26m so Steve Bruce could sign players good enough to finish second. There are a number of other owners who have been bankrolling huge losses to assemble a squad capable of promotion. Starting with season 2013-2014, this is no longer allowed under the Financial Fair Play rules. Investment in Infrastructure and youth development is excluded from the FFP calculation, but the costs associated with buying players, and paying their wages are taken into consideration when assessing a club's 'Fair Play Result'.[/p][/quote]Right, that's clear, which means I think you're confusing existing owners who prop up the losses to a certain extent (and your explanation of how they can do that is correct as I understand it) with a new investor. If a club exchanges equity for investment, the new money becomes part and parcel of the accounting process. If someone puts in £10m the club's income for accounting purposes is boosted. FFP is relevant when that money is spent. Anyway, it's not going to happen at our place. As I've mentioned in an earlier post, I can't see TB relinquishing ANY equity in the club to a potential partner. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 1

6:04pm Sat 31 May 14

gordongull says...

There is a catch-all word for anyone investing in a football club, and that word is 'owner'.
And the 'owner' is bound by the rules of FFP.
If it was that easy to introduce new funds to buy a team, Manchester City would be doing it.
There is a catch-all word for anyone investing in a football club, and that word is 'owner'. And the 'owner' is bound by the rules of FFP. If it was that easy to introduce new funds to buy a team, Manchester City would be doing it. gordongull
  • Score: 0

8:45am Sun 1 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs says...

gordongull wrote:
There is a catch-all word for anyone investing in a football club, and that word is 'owner'.
And the 'owner' is bound by the rules of FFP.
If it was that easy to introduce new funds to buy a team, Manchester City would be doing it.
GG You're talking about sole or current ownership in which case you're right, FFP DOES govern the input of fresh money on a will-nilly basis. There is, as you point out, a restriction on what an existing owner - or joint owners or board - can put in the pot to balance the books and the only potential for additional revenue is through bona-fide sponsorship and commercial deals. It's why the Man City situation was complicated because it was claimed that massive, over-priced sponsorship deals, which boosted City's 'income', were actually companies which were part of the group owned by the owner of Man City. Therefore, it was claimed City were breaching FFP because it was the owner's money and the 'sponsorship' was merely a vehicle for the transaction.
But what our discussion was about was not owner-investment, but the specific sale of equity in the club to a new investor who would then become a joint owner. In that case, money is paid into the pot for a piece of the business and is treated entirely differently by FFP.
Further, the discussion was about TB selling that equity specifically to raise money for transfers, but in reality, I can't see TB selling in part if he doesn't personally benefit because his loans remain unpaid and he loses part of the club he currently owns outright. Whatever the vagaries of FFP, in my opinion, that ain't happening which is why the focus is on running the club on sound business principles.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: There is a catch-all word for anyone investing in a football club, and that word is 'owner'. And the 'owner' is bound by the rules of FFP. If it was that easy to introduce new funds to buy a team, Manchester City would be doing it.[/p][/quote]GG You're talking about sole or current ownership in which case you're right, FFP DOES govern the input of fresh money on a will-nilly basis. There is, as you point out, a restriction on what an existing owner - or joint owners or board - can put in the pot to balance the books and the only potential for additional revenue is through bona-fide sponsorship and commercial deals. It's why the Man City situation was complicated because it was claimed that massive, over-priced sponsorship deals, which boosted City's 'income', were actually companies which were part of the group owned by the owner of Man City. Therefore, it was claimed City were breaching FFP because it was the owner's money and the 'sponsorship' was merely a vehicle for the transaction. But what our discussion was about was not owner-investment, but the specific sale of equity in the club to a new investor who would then become a joint owner. In that case, money is paid into the pot for a piece of the business and is treated entirely differently by FFP. Further, the discussion was about TB selling that equity specifically to raise money for transfers, but in reality, I can't see TB selling in part if he doesn't personally benefit because his loans remain unpaid and he loses part of the club he currently owns outright. Whatever the vagaries of FFP, in my opinion, that ain't happening which is why the focus is on running the club on sound business principles. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 0

4:07pm Sun 1 Jun 14

gordongull says...

The central principle of FFP is that clubs should 'live within their means' or break even based on football-related income at least matching their soccer-related expenditure.
What you are saying, Albion in Staffs, is that it is okay to sell a chunk of the Club, and buy some players with that?
A new Owner would be governed by FFP rules, so how is it possible for a new Joint Owner to circumvent the regulations.
I would appreciate it you provide me with a link explaining this, specifically for FFP purposes, and not company law, as I have been unable to find the relevant information anywhere online.
The central principle of FFP is that clubs should 'live within their means' or break even based on football-related income at least matching their soccer-related expenditure. What you are saying, Albion in Staffs, is that it is okay to sell a chunk of the Club, and buy some players with that? A new Owner would be governed by FFP rules, so how is it possible for a new Joint Owner to circumvent the regulations. I would appreciate it you provide me with a link explaining this, specifically for FFP purposes, and not company law, as I have been unable to find the relevant information anywhere online. gordongull
  • Score: 0

5:36pm Sun 1 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs says...

gordongull wrote:
The central principle of FFP is that clubs should 'live within their means' or break even based on football-related income at least matching their soccer-related expenditure.
What you are saying, Albion in Staffs, is that it is okay to sell a chunk of the Club, and buy some players with that?
A new Owner would be governed by FFP rules, so how is it possible for a new Joint Owner to circumvent the regulations.
I would appreciate it you provide me with a link explaining this, specifically for FFP purposes, and not company law, as I have been unable to find the relevant information anywhere online.
GG I can't provide a link and obviously you're right, a new owner doesn't circumvent the regulations, but it's my understanding from within football that any investment he or she makes (for a stake in the club) ramps up the income column for the year in question. So profit and loss, or working within your means is still valid but, in terms of that year, the goalposts are a bit wider.
But that only works once because, from then on, with the new man now having paid for his stake, the club is back to status quo in terms of living within it's means on an ongoing basis.
I appreciate our discussion and indeed your feedback. I'm by no means an FFP 'expert' but this is how I understand it with regards to a change in, or completely new ownership. I'm not sure the sites that are available reflect this element..
In terms of our club, new investment would make a difference to the transfer options, but as said before, I can't see TB relinquishing any of his own stake at this time.
Anyway, when the bl**dy hell are we getting a new manager?!!!!
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: The central principle of FFP is that clubs should 'live within their means' or break even based on football-related income at least matching their soccer-related expenditure. What you are saying, Albion in Staffs, is that it is okay to sell a chunk of the Club, and buy some players with that? A new Owner would be governed by FFP rules, so how is it possible for a new Joint Owner to circumvent the regulations. I would appreciate it you provide me with a link explaining this, specifically for FFP purposes, and not company law, as I have been unable to find the relevant information anywhere online.[/p][/quote]GG I can't provide a link and obviously you're right, a new owner doesn't circumvent the regulations, but it's my understanding from within football that any investment he or she makes (for a stake in the club) ramps up the income column for the year in question. So profit and loss, or working within your means is still valid but, in terms of that year, the goalposts are a bit wider. But that only works once because, from then on, with the new man now having paid for his stake, the club is back to status quo in terms of living within it's means on an ongoing basis. I appreciate our discussion and indeed your feedback. I'm by no means an FFP 'expert' but this is how I understand it with regards to a change in, or completely new ownership. I'm not sure the sites that are available reflect this element.. In terms of our club, new investment would make a difference to the transfer options, but as said before, I can't see TB relinquishing any of his own stake at this time. Anyway, when the bl**dy hell are we getting a new manager?!!!! Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 0

6:49pm Sun 1 Jun 14

gordongull says...

Thanks Albion in Staffs. I'd almost forgotten about the new Manager!
Thanks Albion in Staffs. I'd almost forgotten about the new Manager! gordongull
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