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Ex-Bastia boss is backed for Albion job - but Reims want him

Former Bastia and Le Havre coach Frederic Hantz is thought to be a contender for the Albion manager’s job.

The 48-year-old Frenchman came from nowhere in the betting to be second favourite behind Sami Hyypia to take over at the Amex.

Hantz was reported to be considering a two-year deal with Reims earlier this week, along with assists Reginald Ray.

But he is not expected to make a final decision until the weekend or early next week Hantz recently left Bastia, who he took from third tier to first before keeping them in the top flight for two seasons.

He turned down a new deal after being told by the Corsican club his fitness coach and attacking coach were not being kept on.

Hantz had been eyed by Reims as a replacement for Hubert Fournier, who is taking over at Lyon, but is believed to be willing to consider other options.

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9:15am Wed 4 Jun 14

chuckupem says...

Another day another prospective manager!!
Another day another prospective manager!! chuckupem
  • Score: 16

9:20am Wed 4 Jun 14

brightonfan34 says...

No thank you don't care what's he's done in french football and don't want him as our manager
No thank you don't care what's he's done in french football and don't want him as our manager brightonfan34
  • Score: 3

9:21am Wed 4 Jun 14

Claude Back says...

Nest headline.....Bookie'
s favourite Hantz is favourite.....until a punter puts £50 on someone else..
Nest headline.....Bookie' s favourite Hantz is favourite.....until a punter puts £50 on someone else.. Claude Back
  • Score: 13

9:25am Wed 4 Jun 14

Claude Back says...

Presumably he would want to bring his attacking and fitness coaches with him....so he's out?
Presumably he would want to bring his attacking and fitness coaches with him....so he's out? Claude Back
  • Score: 11

9:33am Wed 4 Jun 14

Rhodes Seagull says...

Oh No not again!!
Lets just wait till next year and sign David Cameron!!
We have been told so many stories on the subject you could write a book on a who is and who isn't going to be the next Albion manager.
What gets me is that it always starts with the betting odds have changed! Since when have bookmakers been experts on anything but making money from those like to gamble?
Oh No not again!! Lets just wait till next year and sign David Cameron!! We have been told so many stories on the subject you could write a book on a who is and who isn't going to be the next Albion manager. What gets me is that it always starts with the betting odds have changed! Since when have bookmakers been experts on anything but making money from those like to gamble? Rhodes Seagull
  • Score: 12

9:34am Wed 4 Jun 14

ringtone says...

No Thankz.
No Thankz. ringtone
  • Score: 8

9:39am Wed 4 Jun 14

cybergu11y says...

ringtone wrote:
No Thankz.
If he's not good enough for ringpiece, he's good enough for me
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: No Thankz.[/p][/quote]If he's not good enough for ringpiece, he's good enough for me cybergu11y
  • Score: 15

9:42am Wed 4 Jun 14

Claude Back says...

Bookie's favourite...........
.Money.
Bookie's favourite........... .Money. Claude Back
  • Score: 8

9:51am Wed 4 Jun 14

peterpan32 says...

And it goes on. Im normally a patient kind of guy, but slowly starting to lose it. Who will it be tomoz?
Time for an update from the club please.
And it goes on. Im normally a patient kind of guy, but slowly starting to lose it. Who will it be tomoz? Time for an update from the club please. peterpan32
  • Score: 14

9:54am Wed 4 Jun 14

East of CrawleyDown says...

Ok Hyypia you can sort of understand as he has some credentials in a major league, but this Hantz just smacks of desperation and quite frankly, trying to do things on the cheap. Sorry but this doesn't cut it and it annoys me that we aren't being linked with Mackay or Hughton. Please just get a decent manager in without trying to cut corners. I'd rather have Hyypia than this nobody.
Ok Hyypia you can sort of understand as he has some credentials in a major league, but this Hantz just smacks of desperation and quite frankly, trying to do things on the cheap. Sorry but this doesn't cut it and it annoys me that we aren't being linked with Mackay or Hughton. Please just get a decent manager in without trying to cut corners. I'd rather have Hyypia than this nobody. East of CrawleyDown
  • Score: 4

9:58am Wed 4 Jun 14

leonrobichaud says...

Maybe Tony has an ace up his sleeve and has a big plan but the World Cup is getting in the way? Hitzfeld, Capello or Klinsman anyone? Thing is the reason there is a new favourite every day is no one can read Mr Bloom's poker face. I would put money on it not being anyone strongly linked so far.
Maybe Tony has an ace up his sleeve and has a big plan but the World Cup is getting in the way? Hitzfeld, Capello or Klinsman anyone? Thing is the reason there is a new favourite every day is no one can read Mr Bloom's poker face. I would put money on it not being anyone strongly linked so far. leonrobichaud
  • Score: 6

10:04am Wed 4 Jun 14

daveyboy35 says...

THIS IS GETTING **** BORING NOW!!!!!!!!
THIS IS GETTING **** BORING NOW!!!!!!!! daveyboy35
  • Score: 25

10:04am Wed 4 Jun 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Anyone think the bookies come up with these names to tempt the punters to throw more money away?
It's all getting a bit tedious now. UTA
Anyone think the bookies come up with these names to tempt the punters to throw more money away? It's all getting a bit tedious now. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 4

10:17am Wed 4 Jun 14

mark by the sea says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
Anyone think the bookies come up with these names to tempt the punters to throw more money away?
It's all getting a bit tedious now. UTA
Lol Gus poyet could return! What's the odds!
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: Anyone think the bookies come up with these names to tempt the punters to throw more money away? It's all getting a bit tedious now. UTA[/p][/quote]Lol Gus poyet could return! What's the odds! mark by the sea
  • Score: -6

10:41am Wed 4 Jun 14

ballantrrae says...

Just a couple of thoughts.
A number of posters have quite rightly raised the question of candidates having relevant coaching/managerial experience preferably in the UK/Championship. Question - what experience had Alan Mullery (one of most successful appointments) had when he was appointed ?
Secondly we need someone who speaks English well so that the communication difficulties that apparently arose with Oscar do not re-occur. In hindsight (great thing) Oscar whilst being a great and talented coach was not quite the type of manager that the club needs.
I can't see Hughton, Clarke or Hyypia posing a communications problem which cannot be said with confidence about Hantz (does he speak good English ?).
Just a couple of thoughts. A number of posters have quite rightly raised the question of candidates having relevant coaching/managerial experience preferably in the UK/Championship. Question - what experience had Alan Mullery (one of most successful appointments) had when he was appointed ? Secondly we need someone who speaks English well so that the communication difficulties that apparently arose with Oscar do not re-occur. In hindsight (great thing) Oscar whilst being a great and talented coach was not quite the type of manager that the club needs. I can't see Hughton, Clarke or Hyypia posing a communications problem which cannot be said with confidence about Hantz (does he speak good English ?). ballantrrae
  • Score: 3

10:53am Wed 4 Jun 14

fan since 61 says...

East of CrawleyDown wrote:
Ok Hyypia you can sort of understand as he has some credentials in a major league, but this Hantz just smacks of desperation and quite frankly, trying to do things on the cheap. Sorry but this doesn't cut it and it annoys me that we aren't being linked with Mackay or Hughton. Please just get a decent manager in without trying to cut corners. I'd rather have Hyypia than this nobody.
Mackay I could go with but please not Hughton Boring defensive football.
[quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: Ok Hyypia you can sort of understand as he has some credentials in a major league, but this Hantz just smacks of desperation and quite frankly, trying to do things on the cheap. Sorry but this doesn't cut it and it annoys me that we aren't being linked with Mackay or Hughton. Please just get a decent manager in without trying to cut corners. I'd rather have Hyypia than this nobody.[/p][/quote]Mackay I could go with but please not Hughton Boring defensive football. fan since 61
  • Score: -1

10:54am Wed 4 Jun 14

Grummitt says...

Even if this guy does have the right credentials, if he is not going to make a decision until early next week that leaves us in limbo for yet another week. Unacceptable in my eyes.
Even if this guy does have the right credentials, if he is not going to make a decision until early next week that leaves us in limbo for yet another week. Unacceptable in my eyes. Grummitt
  • Score: 6

10:56am Wed 4 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs says...

I feel sorry for The Argus. It doesn't seem like they're getting much help from the club, even in terms of ongoing and very general updates, so they're scraping the barrel of the only show in town at the moment.
No criticism intended of the editorial team on this occasion but....
ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz
I feel sorry for The Argus. It doesn't seem like they're getting much help from the club, even in terms of ongoing and very general updates, so they're scraping the barrel of the only show in town at the moment. No criticism intended of the editorial team on this occasion but.... ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 7

11:08am Wed 4 Jun 14

fansunited says...

And so it goes on.................
And so it goes on................. fansunited
  • Score: 1

11:09am Wed 4 Jun 14

East of CrawleyDown says...

ballantrrae wrote:
Just a couple of thoughts.
A number of posters have quite rightly raised the question of candidates having relevant coaching/managerial experience preferably in the UK/Championship. Question - what experience had Alan Mullery (one of most successful appointments) had when he was appointed ?
Secondly we need someone who speaks English well so that the communication difficulties that apparently arose with Oscar do not re-occur. In hindsight (great thing) Oscar whilst being a great and talented coach was not quite the type of manager that the club needs.
I can't see Hughton, Clarke or Hyypia posing a communications problem which cannot be said with confidence about Hantz (does he speak good English ?).
As Jim Smith said at a team briefing in his Derby County days, "kick ball into goal" . "Please I speak very good English" said one of the foreign contingent of players. "I know that" said Smith, "I was talking to the bloody rest of them". Basically I don't think communication was a problem with Oscar, he had Nathan Jones there to help with that anyway, more Oscars tactics and the fact he was a bit disillusioned with the limitations of budget, plus interference from D of F etc. Which is also probably why we seem to be struggling to secure one of the better more established managers.
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: Just a couple of thoughts. A number of posters have quite rightly raised the question of candidates having relevant coaching/managerial experience preferably in the UK/Championship. Question - what experience had Alan Mullery (one of most successful appointments) had when he was appointed ? Secondly we need someone who speaks English well so that the communication difficulties that apparently arose with Oscar do not re-occur. In hindsight (great thing) Oscar whilst being a great and talented coach was not quite the type of manager that the club needs. I can't see Hughton, Clarke or Hyypia posing a communications problem which cannot be said with confidence about Hantz (does he speak good English ?).[/p][/quote]As Jim Smith said at a team briefing in his Derby County days, "kick ball into goal" . "Please I speak very good English" said one of the foreign contingent of players. "I know that" said Smith, "I was talking to the bloody rest of them". Basically I don't think communication was a problem with Oscar, he had Nathan Jones there to help with that anyway, more Oscars tactics and the fact he was a bit disillusioned with the limitations of budget, plus interference from D of F etc. Which is also probably why we seem to be struggling to secure one of the better more established managers. East of CrawleyDown
  • Score: 6

11:12am Wed 4 Jun 14

mark by the sea says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
I feel sorry for The Argus. It doesn't seem like they're getting much help from the club, even in terms of ongoing and very general updates, so they're scraping the barrel of the only show in town at the moment.
No criticism intended of the editorial team on this occasion but....
ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz
We could have a live link to bet fair( other gambling organisations are available) I wonder if tony has had a small bet on who next manager is!
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: I feel sorry for The Argus. It doesn't seem like they're getting much help from the club, even in terms of ongoing and very general updates, so they're scraping the barrel of the only show in town at the moment. No criticism intended of the editorial team on this occasion but.... ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz[/p][/quote]We could have a live link to bet fair( other gambling organisations are available) I wonder if tony has had a small bet on who next manager is! mark by the sea
  • Score: 4

11:18am Wed 4 Jun 14

Mr Farkenbus says...

Hantz Datdo Dishes.."mild green Fairy Liquid"
Hantz Datdo Dishes.."mild green Fairy Liquid" Mr Farkenbus
  • Score: 8

11:26am Wed 4 Jun 14

Albion fan in London says...

This is so boring I wish that they had kept Oscars resignation quiet, done all of this behind the scenes and once they had someone in post then made an announcement. As it stands we have had 7+ new potential managers over the last two weeks. This particular choice of coach IMO is a joke and as for Hypia I'm not convinced either. This is the first time I have considered cancelling my x2 season tickets. I think the way they have handled the PR of this situation is poor.(did we learn nothing from last season!!) The radio silence and speculation it creates does not fulfil me with confidence leading into another window of uncertainty surrounding our squad anda new manager. Surely this should be the most exciting and enjoyable period being a Brighton fan!
This is so boring I wish that they had kept Oscars resignation quiet, done all of this behind the scenes and once they had someone in post then made an announcement. As it stands we have had 7+ new potential managers over the last two weeks. This particular choice of coach IMO is a joke and as for Hypia I'm not convinced either. This is the first time I have considered cancelling my x2 season tickets. I think the way they have handled the PR of this situation is poor.(did we learn nothing from last season!!) The radio silence and speculation it creates does not fulfil me with confidence leading into another window of uncertainty surrounding our squad anda new manager. Surely this should be the most exciting and enjoyable period being a Brighton fan! Albion fan in London
  • Score: 4

11:42am Wed 4 Jun 14

CantUseNSCatWork says...

Another day, another name.

My random managerial candidate namegenerator has come up with John Gregory for tomorrow.
Another day, another name. My random managerial candidate namegenerator has come up with John Gregory for tomorrow. CantUseNSCatWork
  • Score: 12

12:14pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Hovite says...

All these names are created by the Bookies to get people to put money on them.
All these names are created by the Bookies to get people to put money on them. Hovite
  • Score: 7

12:20pm Wed 4 Jun 14

fratsomrover says...

Boring, boring, boring !! In truth has anyone any idea who is being/has been interviewed. It doesn't appear so, so every day The Argus trawls up yet another name never previously mentioned.
It's obvious the club will not disclose who has applied, so everyone is "second guessing"
Why cant the Argus run a piece on something they know for sure like the ground renovation currently going on at The Amex.

It seems that they are actually sinking the sockets for the Rugby posts for the 2015 Rugby World Cup now. Head groundsman states that the sockets will be set several inches below the pitch and left alone until next year. He then reassures us that " we know exactly where they are of course so we'll only have to dig a small hole to locate them" Well that's really re-assuring.
I was just picturing the ground staff crawling around on their hands and knees sticking probes into the ground saying " I'm sure I buried them here somewhere " !!
Maybe The Argus can also tell us why The Amex has to be known as The Brighton Community Stadium for the duration of the World Cup.
I dont expect Amex are too pleased with that ?
Boring, boring, boring !! In truth has anyone any idea who is being/has been interviewed. It doesn't appear so, so every day The Argus trawls up yet another name never previously mentioned. It's obvious the club will not disclose who has applied, so everyone is "second guessing" Why cant the Argus run a piece on something they know for sure like the ground renovation currently going on at The Amex. It seems that they are actually sinking the sockets for the Rugby posts for the 2015 Rugby World Cup now. Head groundsman states that the sockets will be set several inches below the pitch and left alone until next year. He then reassures us that " we know exactly where they are of course so we'll only have to dig a small hole to locate them" Well that's really re-assuring. I was just picturing the ground staff crawling around on their hands and knees sticking probes into the ground saying " I'm sure I buried them here somewhere " !! Maybe The Argus can also tell us why The Amex has to be known as The Brighton Community Stadium for the duration of the World Cup. I dont expect Amex are too pleased with that ? fratsomrover
  • Score: 2

12:21pm Wed 4 Jun 14

CantUseNSCatWork says...

Hovite wrote:
All these names are created by the Bookies to get people to put money on them.
Wouldn't surprise me at all. Think I might pop down the bookies at lunchtime, stick £20 on a random name and see how long it takes for that name to be mentioned :-)
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: All these names are created by the Bookies to get people to put money on them.[/p][/quote]Wouldn't surprise me at all. Think I might pop down the bookies at lunchtime, stick £20 on a random name and see how long it takes for that name to be mentioned :-) CantUseNSCatWork
  • Score: 4

12:40pm Wed 4 Jun 14

CantUseNSCatWork says...

"Maybe The Argus can also tell us why The Amex has to be known as The Brighton Community Stadium for the duration of the World Cup.
I dont expect Amex are too pleased with that ?"

Most likely something to do with MasterCard being a major Rugby Wolrd Cup sponsor at a guess
"Maybe The Argus can also tell us why The Amex has to be known as The Brighton Community Stadium for the duration of the World Cup. I dont expect Amex are too pleased with that ?" Most likely something to do with MasterCard being a major Rugby Wolrd Cup sponsor at a guess CantUseNSCatWork
  • Score: 1

12:42pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Baldseagull says...

"You need Hantz" Max Bygraves told the Argus.
"You need Hantz" Max Bygraves told the Argus. Baldseagull
  • Score: 7

12:43pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Major Bloodboil says...

ringtone wrote:
No Thankz.
Why not? He comes with Max Bygraves' recommendation,,,,'Y
ou need Handz'!
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: No Thankz.[/p][/quote]Why not? He comes with Max Bygraves' recommendation,,,,'Y ou need Handz'! Major Bloodboil
  • Score: 1

12:46pm Wed 4 Jun 14

DuncanThickett says...

peterpan32 wrote:
And it goes on. Im normally a patient kind of guy, but slowly starting to lose it. Who will it be tomoz?
Time for an update from the club please.
Well, law of averages, i guess it'll be my turn soon. Keeping the mobile on just in case...
[quote][p][bold]peterpan32[/bold] wrote: And it goes on. Im normally a patient kind of guy, but slowly starting to lose it. Who will it be tomoz? Time for an update from the club please.[/p][/quote]Well, law of averages, i guess it'll be my turn soon. Keeping the mobile on just in case... DuncanThickett
  • Score: 1

12:46pm Wed 4 Jun 14

mikeygit says...

IMO this is getting really silly---might as well list ALL the available managers and say they are on Albions short list/would be suitable candidates!!! I will believe it when it happens and TB comes out and tells us who they have selected----WHENEVER that may be!!!!!
IMO this is getting really silly---might as well list ALL the available managers and say they are on Albions short list/would be suitable candidates!!! I will believe it when it happens and TB comes out and tells us who they have selected----WHENEVER that may be!!!!! mikeygit
  • Score: -4

12:47pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Oscar's Chin says...

Mr Farkenbus wrote:
Hantz Datdo Dishes.."mild green Fairy Liquid"
Wasn't it: with wild green hairy lip squid?
[quote][p][bold]Mr Farkenbus[/bold] wrote: Hantz Datdo Dishes.."mild green Fairy Liquid"[/p][/quote]Wasn't it: with wild green hairy lip squid? Oscar's Chin
  • Score: 8

12:49pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Oscar's Chin says...

CantUseNSCatWork wrote:
Another day, another name.

My random managerial candidate namegenerator has come up with John Gregory for tomorrow.
Good God!
[quote][p][bold]CantUseNSCatWork[/bold] wrote: Another day, another name. My random managerial candidate namegenerator has come up with John Gregory for tomorrow.[/p][/quote]Good God! Oscar's Chin
  • Score: 2

12:50pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Tommy11 says...

Albion fan in London wrote:
This is so boring I wish that they had kept Oscars resignation quiet, done all of this behind the scenes and once they had someone in post then made an announcement. As it stands we have had 7+ new potential managers over the last two weeks. This particular choice of coach IMO is a joke and as for Hypia I'm not convinced either. This is the first time I have considered cancelling my x2 season tickets. I think the way they have handled the PR of this situation is poor.(did we learn nothing from last season!!) The radio silence and speculation it creates does not fulfil me with confidence leading into another window of uncertainty surrounding our squad anda new manager. Surely this should be the most exciting and enjoyable period being a Brighton fan!
Absolutely spot on.

I have been a Season Ticket Holder at the Goldstone, Gillingham, Withdean & AMEX – and I’m starting to balance my ST on the bin.

I’m really not happy with the way the club is being run. With DK we knew where we stood – when the Argus asked who he wanted as a manager – he said who he wanted! He made it common knowledge when we used to approach other clubs to speak to their managers – such as Gannon & Rossenior.

I hate this silence, we the fans need to know what the hell is going on – as I said before we are a community football club, not a cooperate company.
[quote][p][bold]Albion fan in London[/bold] wrote: This is so boring I wish that they had kept Oscars resignation quiet, done all of this behind the scenes and once they had someone in post then made an announcement. As it stands we have had 7+ new potential managers over the last two weeks. This particular choice of coach IMO is a joke and as for Hypia I'm not convinced either. This is the first time I have considered cancelling my x2 season tickets. I think the way they have handled the PR of this situation is poor.(did we learn nothing from last season!!) The radio silence and speculation it creates does not fulfil me with confidence leading into another window of uncertainty surrounding our squad anda new manager. Surely this should be the most exciting and enjoyable period being a Brighton fan![/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on. I have been a Season Ticket Holder at the Goldstone, Gillingham, Withdean & AMEX – and I’m starting to balance my ST on the bin. I’m really not happy with the way the club is being run. With DK we knew where we stood – when the Argus asked who he wanted as a manager – he said who he wanted! He made it common knowledge when we used to approach other clubs to speak to their managers – such as Gannon & Rossenior. I hate this silence, we the fans need to know what the hell is going on – as I said before we are a community football club, not a cooperate company. Tommy11
  • Score: 1

12:53pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Oscar's Chin says...

fratsomrover wrote:
Boring, boring, boring !! In truth has anyone any idea who is being/has been interviewed. It doesn't appear so, so every day The Argus trawls up yet another name never previously mentioned.
It's obvious the club will not disclose who has applied, so everyone is "second guessing"
Why cant the Argus run a piece on something they know for sure like the ground renovation currently going on at The Amex.

It seems that they are actually sinking the sockets for the Rugby posts for the 2015 Rugby World Cup now. Head groundsman states that the sockets will be set several inches below the pitch and left alone until next year. He then reassures us that " we know exactly where they are of course so we'll only have to dig a small hole to locate them" Well that's really re-assuring.
I was just picturing the ground staff crawling around on their hands and knees sticking probes into the ground saying " I'm sure I buried them here somewhere " !!
Maybe The Argus can also tell us why The Amex has to be known as The Brighton Community Stadium for the duration of the World Cup.
I dont expect Amex are too pleased with that ?
Haha! Nice one. Would be quite amusing if they did lose them.


Re: stadium name for rugby it'll be a World Cup sponsorship / corporate issue.
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: Boring, boring, boring !! In truth has anyone any idea who is being/has been interviewed. It doesn't appear so, so every day The Argus trawls up yet another name never previously mentioned. It's obvious the club will not disclose who has applied, so everyone is "second guessing" Why cant the Argus run a piece on something they know for sure like the ground renovation currently going on at The Amex. It seems that they are actually sinking the sockets for the Rugby posts for the 2015 Rugby World Cup now. Head groundsman states that the sockets will be set several inches below the pitch and left alone until next year. He then reassures us that " we know exactly where they are of course so we'll only have to dig a small hole to locate them" Well that's really re-assuring. I was just picturing the ground staff crawling around on their hands and knees sticking probes into the ground saying " I'm sure I buried them here somewhere " !! Maybe The Argus can also tell us why The Amex has to be known as The Brighton Community Stadium for the duration of the World Cup. I dont expect Amex are too pleased with that ?[/p][/quote]Haha! Nice one. Would be quite amusing if they did lose them. Re: stadium name for rugby it'll be a World Cup sponsorship / corporate issue. Oscar's Chin
  • Score: 0

12:59pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Oscar's Chin says...

Tommy11 wrote:
Albion fan in London wrote:
This is so boring I wish that they had kept Oscars resignation quiet, done all of this behind the scenes and once they had someone in post then made an announcement. As it stands we have had 7+ new potential managers over the last two weeks. This particular choice of coach IMO is a joke and as for Hypia I'm not convinced either. This is the first time I have considered cancelling my x2 season tickets. I think the way they have handled the PR of this situation is poor.(did we learn nothing from last season!!) The radio silence and speculation it creates does not fulfil me with confidence leading into another window of uncertainty surrounding our squad anda new manager. Surely this should be the most exciting and enjoyable period being a Brighton fan!
Absolutely spot on.

I have been a Season Ticket Holder at the Goldstone, Gillingham, Withdean & AMEX – and I’m starting to balance my ST on the bin.

I’m really not happy with the way the club is being run. With DK we knew where we stood – when the Argus asked who he wanted as a manager – he said who he wanted! He made it common knowledge when we used to approach other clubs to speak to their managers – such as Gannon & Rossenior.

I hate this silence, we the fans need to know what the hell is going on – as I said before we are a community football club, not a cooperate company.
We are both!

Silence is golden. Dick was a saviour who will always be revered for it but he was unprofessional with his approach. Personally I found being turned down by known-target Gannon embarrassing...humil
iating in fact! Furthermore sacking managers at The Happy Eater isn't too "community" is it?
[quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion fan in London[/bold] wrote: This is so boring I wish that they had kept Oscars resignation quiet, done all of this behind the scenes and once they had someone in post then made an announcement. As it stands we have had 7+ new potential managers over the last two weeks. This particular choice of coach IMO is a joke and as for Hypia I'm not convinced either. This is the first time I have considered cancelling my x2 season tickets. I think the way they have handled the PR of this situation is poor.(did we learn nothing from last season!!) The radio silence and speculation it creates does not fulfil me with confidence leading into another window of uncertainty surrounding our squad anda new manager. Surely this should be the most exciting and enjoyable period being a Brighton fan![/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on. I have been a Season Ticket Holder at the Goldstone, Gillingham, Withdean & AMEX – and I’m starting to balance my ST on the bin. I’m really not happy with the way the club is being run. With DK we knew where we stood – when the Argus asked who he wanted as a manager – he said who he wanted! He made it common knowledge when we used to approach other clubs to speak to their managers – such as Gannon & Rossenior. I hate this silence, we the fans need to know what the hell is going on – as I said before we are a community football club, not a cooperate company.[/p][/quote]We are both! Silence is golden. Dick was a saviour who will always be revered for it but he was unprofessional with his approach. Personally I found being turned down by known-target Gannon embarrassing...humil iating in fact! Furthermore sacking managers at The Happy Eater isn't too "community" is it? Oscar's Chin
  • Score: -1

1:00pm Wed 4 Jun 14

pte says...

As far as the club is concerned it is such a well oiled machine that it could run itself without a manager. There is no real need for a manager since the backroom staff choose which players to sign. The manager is only required as a figurehead.

What are the odds at Ladbrokes of Donald Duck being the next manager?
As far as the club is concerned it is such a well oiled machine that it could run itself without a manager. There is no real need for a manager since the backroom staff choose which players to sign. The manager is only required as a figurehead. What are the odds at Ladbrokes of Donald Duck being the next manager? pte
  • Score: 13

1:01pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Piglet1 says...

Tommy11 wrote:
Albion fan in London wrote:
This is so boring I wish that they had kept Oscars resignation quiet, done all of this behind the scenes and once they had someone in post then made an announcement. As it stands we have had 7+ new potential managers over the last two weeks. This particular choice of coach IMO is a joke and as for Hypia I'm not convinced either. This is the first time I have considered cancelling my x2 season tickets. I think the way they have handled the PR of this situation is poor.(did we learn nothing from last season!!) The radio silence and speculation it creates does not fulfil me with confidence leading into another window of uncertainty surrounding our squad anda new manager. Surely this should be the most exciting and enjoyable period being a Brighton fan!
Absolutely spot on.

I have been a Season Ticket Holder at the Goldstone, Gillingham, Withdean & AMEX – and I’m starting to balance my ST on the bin.

I’m really not happy with the way the club is being run. With DK we knew where we stood – when the Argus asked who he wanted as a manager – he said who he wanted! He made it common knowledge when we used to approach other clubs to speak to their managers – such as Gannon & Rossenior.

I hate this silence, we the fans need to know what the hell is going on – as I said before we are a community football club, not a cooperate company.
But surely it doesn't matter that we don't know so long as we obtain a good candidate. A few weeks waiting is a small price to pay for a thorough screening of all available managers.
Once one is appointed this will all be forgotten.
Please do not forget that showing your hand is not always a good move and the Dick Knight method was not foolproof by any stretch of imagination.
[quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion fan in London[/bold] wrote: This is so boring I wish that they had kept Oscars resignation quiet, done all of this behind the scenes and once they had someone in post then made an announcement. As it stands we have had 7+ new potential managers over the last two weeks. This particular choice of coach IMO is a joke and as for Hypia I'm not convinced either. This is the first time I have considered cancelling my x2 season tickets. I think the way they have handled the PR of this situation is poor.(did we learn nothing from last season!!) The radio silence and speculation it creates does not fulfil me with confidence leading into another window of uncertainty surrounding our squad anda new manager. Surely this should be the most exciting and enjoyable period being a Brighton fan![/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on. I have been a Season Ticket Holder at the Goldstone, Gillingham, Withdean & AMEX – and I’m starting to balance my ST on the bin. I’m really not happy with the way the club is being run. With DK we knew where we stood – when the Argus asked who he wanted as a manager – he said who he wanted! He made it common knowledge when we used to approach other clubs to speak to their managers – such as Gannon & Rossenior. I hate this silence, we the fans need to know what the hell is going on – as I said before we are a community football club, not a cooperate company.[/p][/quote]But surely it doesn't matter that we don't know so long as we obtain a good candidate. A few weeks waiting is a small price to pay for a thorough screening of all available managers. Once one is appointed this will all be forgotten. Please do not forget that showing your hand is not always a good move and the Dick Knight method was not foolproof by any stretch of imagination. Piglet1
  • Score: 3

1:11pm Wed 4 Jun 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

brightonfan34 wrote:
No thank you don't care what's he's done in french football and don't want him as our manager
Any inside information or understandable reasoning for that reaction which you could share with us please?
[quote][p][bold]brightonfan34[/bold] wrote: No thank you don't care what's he's done in french football and don't want him as our manager[/p][/quote]Any inside information or understandable reasoning for that reaction which you could share with us please? WisdomSpeaks
  • Score: 6

1:14pm Wed 4 Jun 14

tug509 says...

It hardly matters ,we could sign Sir Alex Ferguson with Arsene Wenger as assistant manager and burke the berk and his little friend barber would find a way to screw it up some how ,main priority is to stop their interference in team matters and new signings ,or better still just get rid ,then we really would stand a chance of attracting a top class Manager . yours sincerely todays cannon fodder ,for those too blind to see that they ARE the problem . UTA
It hardly matters ,we could sign Sir Alex Ferguson with Arsene Wenger as assistant manager and burke the berk and his little friend barber would find a way to screw it up some how ,main priority is to stop their interference in team matters and new signings ,or better still just get rid ,then we really would stand a chance of attracting a top class Manager . yours sincerely todays cannon fodder ,for those too blind to see that they ARE the problem . UTA tug509
  • Score: 6

1:17pm Wed 4 Jun 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

East of CrawleyDown wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
Just a couple of thoughts.
A number of posters have quite rightly raised the question of candidates having relevant coaching/managerial experience preferably in the UK/Championship. Question - what experience had Alan Mullery (one of most successful appointments) had when he was appointed ?
Secondly we need someone who speaks English well so that the communication difficulties that apparently arose with Oscar do not re-occur. In hindsight (great thing) Oscar whilst being a great and talented coach was not quite the type of manager that the club needs.
I can't see Hughton, Clarke or Hyypia posing a communications problem which cannot be said with confidence about Hantz (does he speak good English ?).
As Jim Smith said at a team briefing in his Derby County days, "kick ball into goal" . "Please I speak very good English" said one of the foreign contingent of players. "I know that" said Smith, "I was talking to the bloody rest of them". Basically I don't think communication was a problem with Oscar, he had Nathan Jones there to help with that anyway, more Oscars tactics and the fact he was a bit disillusioned with the limitations of budget, plus interference from D of F etc. Which is also probably why we seem to be struggling to secure one of the better more established managers.
Very balanced and sensible post - I think it's pretty clear also that Nathan Jones was not exactly 'in tune' with his boss and could have been a disruptive influence as a result. When those two positions are not in harmony you really have got problems!
[quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: Just a couple of thoughts. A number of posters have quite rightly raised the question of candidates having relevant coaching/managerial experience preferably in the UK/Championship. Question - what experience had Alan Mullery (one of most successful appointments) had when he was appointed ? Secondly we need someone who speaks English well so that the communication difficulties that apparently arose with Oscar do not re-occur. In hindsight (great thing) Oscar whilst being a great and talented coach was not quite the type of manager that the club needs. I can't see Hughton, Clarke or Hyypia posing a communications problem which cannot be said with confidence about Hantz (does he speak good English ?).[/p][/quote]As Jim Smith said at a team briefing in his Derby County days, "kick ball into goal" . "Please I speak very good English" said one of the foreign contingent of players. "I know that" said Smith, "I was talking to the bloody rest of them". Basically I don't think communication was a problem with Oscar, he had Nathan Jones there to help with that anyway, more Oscars tactics and the fact he was a bit disillusioned with the limitations of budget, plus interference from D of F etc. Which is also probably why we seem to be struggling to secure one of the better more established managers.[/p][/quote]Very balanced and sensible post - I think it's pretty clear also that Nathan Jones was not exactly 'in tune' with his boss and could have been a disruptive influence as a result. When those two positions are not in harmony you really have got problems! WisdomSpeaks
  • Score: 10

1:19pm Wed 4 Jun 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

Mr Farkenbus wrote:
Hantz Datdo Dishes.."mild green Fairy Liquid"
Great to have that humour as I'm remembering to smile at the whole humorous situation. It's all just a dream isn't it?????
[quote][p][bold]Mr Farkenbus[/bold] wrote: Hantz Datdo Dishes.."mild green Fairy Liquid"[/p][/quote]Great to have that humour as I'm remembering to smile at the whole humorous situation. It's all just a dream isn't it????? WisdomSpeaks
  • Score: 4

1:23pm Wed 4 Jun 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

Most of these names come from the betting sites.

Anybody that believes that eg Hyypia,Hantz are on the Bloom shortlist is living in cuckoo land.

If B.B need a bettingsite to get names, God help us,might as wel put Alf Ramsey on the list he's back in the news lately.

Argus has no news,so they go on oddschecker and make it look interesting.
Most of these names come from the betting sites. Anybody that believes that eg Hyypia,Hantz are on the Bloom shortlist is living in cuckoo land. If B.B need a bettingsite to get names, God help us,might as wel put Alf Ramsey on the list he's back in the news lately. Argus has no news,so they go on oddschecker and make it look interesting. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 10

1:26pm Wed 4 Jun 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

Tommy11 wrote:
Albion fan in London wrote:
This is so boring I wish that they had kept Oscars resignation quiet, done all of this behind the scenes and once they had someone in post then made an announcement. As it stands we have had 7+ new potential managers over the last two weeks. This particular choice of coach IMO is a joke and as for Hypia I'm not convinced either. This is the first time I have considered cancelling my x2 season tickets. I think the way they have handled the PR of this situation is poor.(did we learn nothing from last season!!) The radio silence and speculation it creates does not fulfil me with confidence leading into another window of uncertainty surrounding our squad anda new manager. Surely this should be the most exciting and enjoyable period being a Brighton fan!
Absolutely spot on.

I have been a Season Ticket Holder at the Goldstone, Gillingham, Withdean & AMEX – and I’m starting to balance my ST on the bin.

I’m really not happy with the way the club is being run. With DK we knew where we stood – when the Argus asked who he wanted as a manager – he said who he wanted! He made it common knowledge when we used to approach other clubs to speak to their managers – such as Gannon & Rossenior.

I hate this silence, we the fans need to know what the hell is going on – as I said before we are a community football club, not a cooperate company.
You're absolutely spot on. It must always be re breed that EVERY SINGLE INCOME is BECAUSE of the success of the football club on the field. NOT the other way around!!!! This includes how many newspapers are sold too!!!
[quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion fan in London[/bold] wrote: This is so boring I wish that they had kept Oscars resignation quiet, done all of this behind the scenes and once they had someone in post then made an announcement. As it stands we have had 7+ new potential managers over the last two weeks. This particular choice of coach IMO is a joke and as for Hypia I'm not convinced either. This is the first time I have considered cancelling my x2 season tickets. I think the way they have handled the PR of this situation is poor.(did we learn nothing from last season!!) The radio silence and speculation it creates does not fulfil me with confidence leading into another window of uncertainty surrounding our squad anda new manager. Surely this should be the most exciting and enjoyable period being a Brighton fan![/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on. I have been a Season Ticket Holder at the Goldstone, Gillingham, Withdean & AMEX – and I’m starting to balance my ST on the bin. I’m really not happy with the way the club is being run. With DK we knew where we stood – when the Argus asked who he wanted as a manager – he said who he wanted! He made it common knowledge when we used to approach other clubs to speak to their managers – such as Gannon & Rossenior. I hate this silence, we the fans need to know what the hell is going on – as I said before we are a community football club, not a cooperate company.[/p][/quote]You're absolutely spot on. It must always be re breed that EVERY SINGLE INCOME is BECAUSE of the success of the football club on the field. NOT the other way around!!!! This includes how many newspapers are sold too!!! WisdomSpeaks
  • Score: -2

1:30pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Oscar's Chin wrote:
fratsomrover wrote:
Boring, boring, boring !! In truth has anyone any idea who is being/has been interviewed. It doesn't appear so, so every day The Argus trawls up yet another name never previously mentioned.
It's obvious the club will not disclose who has applied, so everyone is "second guessing"
Why cant the Argus run a piece on something they know for sure like the ground renovation currently going on at The Amex.

It seems that they are actually sinking the sockets for the Rugby posts for the 2015 Rugby World Cup now. Head groundsman states that the sockets will be set several inches below the pitch and left alone until next year. He then reassures us that " we know exactly where they are of course so we'll only have to dig a small hole to locate them" Well that's really re-assuring.
I was just picturing the ground staff crawling around on their hands and knees sticking probes into the ground saying " I'm sure I buried them here somewhere " !!
Maybe The Argus can also tell us why The Amex has to be known as The Brighton Community Stadium for the duration of the World Cup.
I dont expect Amex are too pleased with that ?
Haha! Nice one. Would be quite amusing if they did lose them.


Re: stadium name for rugby it'll be a World Cup sponsorship / corporate issue.
You're right on the naming issue. when you sign up for a major tournament (FIFA World Cup, Rugby World and even when you qualify for the Champions' League) you handover all commercial rights to the organisers. They even put an exclusion zone around the stadium so for example, Amex and any non-partners won't be able to advertise within a certain distance of the stadium.
and I think I'm right in saying that if you sell a brand of beer in your stadium that isn't from an official supplier, then at has to be taken out too in favour of the sponsored alternative.
I think it's called Bookoo Bucks for the organisers......
[quote][p][bold]Oscar's Chin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: Boring, boring, boring !! In truth has anyone any idea who is being/has been interviewed. It doesn't appear so, so every day The Argus trawls up yet another name never previously mentioned. It's obvious the club will not disclose who has applied, so everyone is "second guessing" Why cant the Argus run a piece on something they know for sure like the ground renovation currently going on at The Amex. It seems that they are actually sinking the sockets for the Rugby posts for the 2015 Rugby World Cup now. Head groundsman states that the sockets will be set several inches below the pitch and left alone until next year. He then reassures us that " we know exactly where they are of course so we'll only have to dig a small hole to locate them" Well that's really re-assuring. I was just picturing the ground staff crawling around on their hands and knees sticking probes into the ground saying " I'm sure I buried them here somewhere " !! Maybe The Argus can also tell us why The Amex has to be known as The Brighton Community Stadium for the duration of the World Cup. I dont expect Amex are too pleased with that ?[/p][/quote]Haha! Nice one. Would be quite amusing if they did lose them. Re: stadium name for rugby it'll be a World Cup sponsorship / corporate issue.[/p][/quote]You're right on the naming issue. when you sign up for a major tournament (FIFA World Cup, Rugby World and even when you qualify for the Champions' League) you handover all commercial rights to the organisers. They even put an exclusion zone around the stadium so for example, Amex and any non-partners won't be able to advertise within a certain distance of the stadium. and I think I'm right in saying that if you sell a brand of beer in your stadium that isn't from an official supplier, then at has to be taken out too in favour of the sponsored alternative. I think it's called Bookoo Bucks for the organisers...... Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 2

1:31pm Wed 4 Jun 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

WisdomSpeaks wrote:
Tommy11 wrote:
Albion fan in London wrote:
This is so boring I wish that they had kept Oscars resignation quiet, done all of this behind the scenes and once they had someone in post then made an announcement. As it stands we have had 7+ new potential managers over the last two weeks. This particular choice of coach IMO is a joke and as for Hypia I'm not convinced either. This is the first time I have considered cancelling my x2 season tickets. I think the way they have handled the PR of this situation is poor.(did we learn nothing from last season!!) The radio silence and speculation it creates does not fulfil me with confidence leading into another window of uncertainty surrounding our squad anda new manager. Surely this should be the most exciting and enjoyable period being a Brighton fan!
Absolutely spot on.

I have been a Season Ticket Holder at the Goldstone, Gillingham, Withdean & AMEX – and I’m starting to balance my ST on the bin.

I’m really not happy with the way the club is being run. With DK we knew where we stood – when the Argus asked who he wanted as a manager – he said who he wanted! He made it common knowledge when we used to approach other clubs to speak to their managers – such as Gannon & Rossenior.

I hate this silence, we the fans need to know what the hell is going on – as I said before we are a community football club, not a cooperate company.
You're absolutely spot on. It must always be re breed that EVERY SINGLE INCOME is BECAUSE of the success of the football club on the field. NOT the other way around!!!! This includes how many newspapers are sold too!!!
For 're breed' please read 'remembered' - apologies!!!
[quote][p][bold]WisdomSpeaks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion fan in London[/bold] wrote: This is so boring I wish that they had kept Oscars resignation quiet, done all of this behind the scenes and once they had someone in post then made an announcement. As it stands we have had 7+ new potential managers over the last two weeks. This particular choice of coach IMO is a joke and as for Hypia I'm not convinced either. This is the first time I have considered cancelling my x2 season tickets. I think the way they have handled the PR of this situation is poor.(did we learn nothing from last season!!) The radio silence and speculation it creates does not fulfil me with confidence leading into another window of uncertainty surrounding our squad anda new manager. Surely this should be the most exciting and enjoyable period being a Brighton fan![/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on. I have been a Season Ticket Holder at the Goldstone, Gillingham, Withdean & AMEX – and I’m starting to balance my ST on the bin. I’m really not happy with the way the club is being run. With DK we knew where we stood – when the Argus asked who he wanted as a manager – he said who he wanted! He made it common knowledge when we used to approach other clubs to speak to their managers – such as Gannon & Rossenior. I hate this silence, we the fans need to know what the hell is going on – as I said before we are a community football club, not a cooperate company.[/p][/quote]You're absolutely spot on. It must always be re breed that EVERY SINGLE INCOME is BECAUSE of the success of the football club on the field. NOT the other way around!!!! This includes how many newspapers are sold too!!![/p][/quote]For 're breed' please read 'remembered' - apologies!!! WisdomSpeaks
  • Score: 0

1:33pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Mr Farkenbus says...

WisdomSpeaks wrote:
Mr Farkenbus wrote: Hantz Datdo Dishes.."mild green Fairy Liquid"
Great to have that humour as I'm remembering to smile at the whole humorous situation. It's all just a dream isn't it?????
Mate, you got to keep a sense of humour as the weeks drag on with this :-)
[quote][p][bold]WisdomSpeaks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Farkenbus[/bold] wrote: Hantz Datdo Dishes.."mild green Fairy Liquid"[/p][/quote]Great to have that humour as I'm remembering to smile at the whole humorous situation. It's all just a dream isn't it?????[/p][/quote]Mate, you got to keep a sense of humour as the weeks drag on with this :-) Mr Farkenbus
  • Score: 4

1:37pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Mr Farkenbus says...

Hantz, knees and boompzee daisy!
Hantz, knees and boompzee daisy! Mr Farkenbus
  • Score: 0

1:53pm Wed 4 Jun 14

wrighty2908 says...

Albion fan in London wrote:
This is so boring I wish that they had kept Oscars resignation quiet, done all of this behind the scenes and once they had someone in post then made an announcement. As it stands we have had 7+ new potential managers over the last two weeks. This particular choice of coach IMO is a joke and as for Hypia I'm not convinced either. This is the first time I have considered cancelling my x2 season tickets. I think the way they have handled the PR of this situation is poor.(did we learn nothing from last season!!) The radio silence and speculation it creates does not fulfil me with confidence leading into another window of uncertainty surrounding our squad anda new manager. Surely this should be the most exciting and enjoyable period being a Brighton fan!
Then give your season tickets up plenty of other tackers. TB's last two appointments weren't to bad play offs for the last two seasons. Whats the point of the club coming out every five minutes telling the fans whats going on TB will let the fans know when he's ready and with FFP its not going to be as easy as everyone thinks so if it takes another week then so be it do you want our club to end up like Portsmouth spending money we dont have. In TB I trust.
[quote][p][bold]Albion fan in London[/bold] wrote: This is so boring I wish that they had kept Oscars resignation quiet, done all of this behind the scenes and once they had someone in post then made an announcement. As it stands we have had 7+ new potential managers over the last two weeks. This particular choice of coach IMO is a joke and as for Hypia I'm not convinced either. This is the first time I have considered cancelling my x2 season tickets. I think the way they have handled the PR of this situation is poor.(did we learn nothing from last season!!) The radio silence and speculation it creates does not fulfil me with confidence leading into another window of uncertainty surrounding our squad anda new manager. Surely this should be the most exciting and enjoyable period being a Brighton fan![/p][/quote]Then give your season tickets up plenty of other tackers. TB's last two appointments weren't to bad play offs for the last two seasons. Whats the point of the club coming out every five minutes telling the fans whats going on TB will let the fans know when he's ready and with FFP its not going to be as easy as everyone thinks so if it takes another week then so be it do you want our club to end up like Portsmouth spending money we dont have. In TB I trust. wrighty2908
  • Score: -7

1:54pm Wed 4 Jun 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

Mr Farkenbus wrote:
Hantz, knees and boompzee daisy!
Seems like the right Hantz doesn't know what the left Hantz is upto!
[quote][p][bold]Mr Farkenbus[/bold] wrote: Hantz, knees and boompzee daisy![/p][/quote]Seems like the right Hantz doesn't know what the left Hantz is upto! WisdomSpeaks
  • Score: 3

2:12pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Neville says...

Attn Wrighty2908
Don.t be sure there will be other takers for season tickets,I have been a fan for over 50years and find the lack of information from the board appalling.I don,t expect to know all the ins and outs but a perhaps a holding statement or update would be good. the argus seem unable to report anything of note,perhaps there is a problem with the club currently.
The same lack of info has been apparent for some 18mths or so and not impressed with the way things are being dealt with.
Attn Wrighty2908 Don.t be sure there will be other takers for season tickets,I have been a fan for over 50years and find the lack of information from the board appalling.I don,t expect to know all the ins and outs but a perhaps a holding statement or update would be good. the argus seem unable to report anything of note,perhaps there is a problem with the club currently. The same lack of info has been apparent for some 18mths or so and not impressed with the way things are being dealt with. Neville
  • Score: 2

2:20pm Wed 4 Jun 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

Hantz up anyone who thinks we'll have a manager in place by this time next week!
Hantz up anyone who thinks we'll have a manager in place by this time next week! SeagullOverSelsey
  • Score: -2

2:22pm Wed 4 Jun 14

tug509 says...

wrighty2908 wrote:
Albion fan in London wrote:
This is so boring I wish that they had kept Oscars resignation quiet, done all of this behind the scenes and once they had someone in post then made an announcement. As it stands we have had 7+ new potential managers over the last two weeks. This particular choice of coach IMO is a joke and as for Hypia I'm not convinced either. This is the first time I have considered cancelling my x2 season tickets. I think the way they have handled the PR of this situation is poor.(did we learn nothing from last season!!) The radio silence and speculation it creates does not fulfil me with confidence leading into another window of uncertainty surrounding our squad anda new manager. Surely this should be the most exciting and enjoyable period being a Brighton fan!
Then give your season tickets up plenty of other tackers. TB's last two appointments weren't to bad play offs for the last two seasons. Whats the point of the club coming out every five minutes telling the fans whats going on TB will let the fans know when he's ready and with FFP its not going to be as easy as everyone thinks so if it takes another week then so be it do you want our club to end up like Portsmouth spending money we dont have. In TB I trust.
Listen you little plonker ,i had written a post to explain things more politely ,but the computer had other ideas ,so here is the abridged version ,we have earnt ,with many many years of loyalty to this Great club, to be at the very least kept in the loop ,if you feel the need to moan ,i suggest you aim it at those responsible , oh ,and keep that very tired Portsmouth line to yourself it will win you no favours !.
[quote][p][bold]wrighty2908[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion fan in London[/bold] wrote: This is so boring I wish that they had kept Oscars resignation quiet, done all of this behind the scenes and once they had someone in post then made an announcement. As it stands we have had 7+ new potential managers over the last two weeks. This particular choice of coach IMO is a joke and as for Hypia I'm not convinced either. This is the first time I have considered cancelling my x2 season tickets. I think the way they have handled the PR of this situation is poor.(did we learn nothing from last season!!) The radio silence and speculation it creates does not fulfil me with confidence leading into another window of uncertainty surrounding our squad anda new manager. Surely this should be the most exciting and enjoyable period being a Brighton fan![/p][/quote]Then give your season tickets up plenty of other tackers. TB's last two appointments weren't to bad play offs for the last two seasons. Whats the point of the club coming out every five minutes telling the fans whats going on TB will let the fans know when he's ready and with FFP its not going to be as easy as everyone thinks so if it takes another week then so be it do you want our club to end up like Portsmouth spending money we dont have. In TB I trust.[/p][/quote]Listen you little plonker ,i had written a post to explain things more politely ,but the computer had other ideas ,so here is the abridged version ,we have earnt ,with many many years of loyalty to this Great club, to be at the very least kept in the loop ,if you feel the need to moan ,i suggest you aim it at those responsible , oh ,and keep that very tired Portsmouth line to yourself it will win you no favours !. tug509
  • Score: 5

2:24pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs says...

SeagullOverSelsey wrote:
Hantz up anyone who thinks we'll have a manager in place by this time next week!
I think it'll be a managerial trio: Putchya, Hantz, Oppe
[quote][p][bold]SeagullOverSelsey[/bold] wrote: Hantz up anyone who thinks we'll have a manager in place by this time next week![/p][/quote]I think it'll be a managerial trio: Putchya, Hantz, Oppe Albion In Staffs
  • Score: -3

2:33pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

I don't think any fans are arguing that we should ignore FFP and spend money we don't have.. Other clubs seem to be flouting the rules and reaping the benefit although their long term future may be in jeopardy. No, I think most of us here are concerned at the lack of progress in making a new appointment and the perceived reasons for that delay. Clearly the DoF role may be the problem plus the lack of control that the new man will have in recruitment. Something is obviously wrong at our great club but with no communication to us fans other than the latest bookies favourite offering, we need reassurance. So, come on Tony let's have some news. UTA
I don't think any fans are arguing that we should ignore FFP and spend money we don't have.. Other clubs seem to be flouting the rules and reaping the benefit although their long term future may be in jeopardy. No, I think most of us here are concerned at the lack of progress in making a new appointment and the perceived reasons for that delay. Clearly the DoF role may be the problem plus the lack of control that the new man will have in recruitment. Something is obviously wrong at our great club but with no communication to us fans other than the latest bookies favourite offering, we need reassurance. So, come on Tony let's have some news. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 5

2:38pm Wed 4 Jun 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

wrighty2908 wrote:
Albion fan in London wrote:
This is so boring I wish that they had kept Oscars resignation quiet, done all of this behind the scenes and once they had someone in post then made an announcement. As it stands we have had 7+ new potential managers over the last two weeks. This particular choice of coach IMO is a joke and as for Hypia I'm not convinced either. This is the first time I have considered cancelling my x2 season tickets. I think the way they have handled the PR of this situation is poor.(did we learn nothing from last season!!) The radio silence and speculation it creates does not fulfil me with confidence leading into another window of uncertainty surrounding our squad anda new manager. Surely this should be the most exciting and enjoyable period being a Brighton fan!
Then give your season tickets up plenty of other tackers. TB's last two appointments weren't to bad play offs for the last two seasons. Whats the point of the club coming out every five minutes telling the fans whats going on TB will let the fans know when he's ready and with FFP its not going to be as easy as everyone thinks so if it takes another week then so be it do you want our club to end up like Portsmouth spending money we dont have. In TB I trust.
Had till half march to renew season ticket,there was no rush then,season not finished but lets get the money in,also that these were prices if we stayed in the championship.

FFP rules okido but we are down 14 MILLION,staff oldies sacked money coming in left right and everywhich way,have you ever tried to get in Dicks bar after the game has finished,eat at the 1901 etc and the club is going deeper in the red,maybe players wages we cannot get a lad from bournemouth.

Where in heavens name is all this money going,the minus should be going down unless barber is also working for RBS.
[quote][p][bold]wrighty2908[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion fan in London[/bold] wrote: This is so boring I wish that they had kept Oscars resignation quiet, done all of this behind the scenes and once they had someone in post then made an announcement. As it stands we have had 7+ new potential managers over the last two weeks. This particular choice of coach IMO is a joke and as for Hypia I'm not convinced either. This is the first time I have considered cancelling my x2 season tickets. I think the way they have handled the PR of this situation is poor.(did we learn nothing from last season!!) The radio silence and speculation it creates does not fulfil me with confidence leading into another window of uncertainty surrounding our squad anda new manager. Surely this should be the most exciting and enjoyable period being a Brighton fan![/p][/quote]Then give your season tickets up plenty of other tackers. TB's last two appointments weren't to bad play offs for the last two seasons. Whats the point of the club coming out every five minutes telling the fans whats going on TB will let the fans know when he's ready and with FFP its not going to be as easy as everyone thinks so if it takes another week then so be it do you want our club to end up like Portsmouth spending money we dont have. In TB I trust.[/p][/quote]Had till half march to renew season ticket,there was no rush then,season not finished but lets get the money in,also that these were prices if we stayed in the championship. FFP rules okido but we are down 14 MILLION,staff oldies sacked money coming in left right and everywhich way,have you ever tried to get in Dicks bar after the game has finished,eat at the 1901 etc and the club is going deeper in the red,maybe players wages we cannot get a lad from bournemouth. Where in heavens name is all this money going,the minus should be going down unless barber is also working for RBS. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 11

2:40pm Wed 4 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

Hi Tug.
Would you agree that the calbre of manager we end up getting will reflect just where the club is right now?

We are a club looking to cut it's debts, and to cut them in ways that does not, 'require,' us to sell off our better players. We are also a club that might be seen by some as a stepping stone to the prem, both players and potential managers. We are a club with a strong desire to make it to the top flight, but not at the expense of risking all we have achieved during Bloom's reign. Tug do you think it possible that the best candidates, best in the eyes of the fans, just might not see us as a good fit for them for what ever their reasons might be? We might think that Brighton should be an attractive proposition for available managers, but perhaps they don't agree.

Lastly Tug, do you think it possible that the club is building a fund for the top. Could we be banking money for later use so that when we are ready to go for it, we will have the money available to buy without going into debt. A failed drive for the top that saw us debt free would be better than failing with a huge debt to pay off that can only be sorted by selling off the gems, and by doing so put us back a few years in terms of having a good squad.
Hi Tug. Would you agree that the calbre of manager we end up getting will reflect just where the club is right now? We are a club looking to cut it's debts, and to cut them in ways that does not, 'require,' us to sell off our better players. We are also a club that might be seen by some as a stepping stone to the prem, both players and potential managers. We are a club with a strong desire to make it to the top flight, but not at the expense of risking all we have achieved during Bloom's reign. Tug do you think it possible that the best candidates, best in the eyes of the fans, just might not see us as a good fit for them for what ever their reasons might be? We might think that Brighton should be an attractive proposition for available managers, but perhaps they don't agree. Lastly Tug, do you think it possible that the club is building a fund for the top. Could we be banking money for later use so that when we are ready to go for it, we will have the money available to buy without going into debt. A failed drive for the top that saw us debt free would be better than failing with a huge debt to pay off that can only be sorted by selling off the gems, and by doing so put us back a few years in terms of having a good squad. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

2:52pm Wed 4 Jun 14

gordongull says...

We are down to the candidates for whom no photographs exist.
Doesn't look good.....
We are down to the candidates for whom no photographs exist. Doesn't look good..... gordongull
  • Score: 10

3:02pm Wed 4 Jun 14

East of CrawleyDown says...

Nathan Jones must be fancying his chances right now. If we don't end up with one of Hughton, Mackay, McDermott or even Hyypia I'll be amazed.
Nathan Jones must be fancying his chances right now. If we don't end up with one of Hughton, Mackay, McDermott or even Hyypia I'll be amazed. East of CrawleyDown
  • Score: -1

3:09pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Oscar's Chin says...

pte wrote:
As far as the club is concerned it is such a well oiled machine that it could run itself without a manager. There is no real need for a manager since the backroom staff choose which players to sign. The manager is only required as a figurehead.

What are the odds at Ladbrokes of Donald Duck being the next manager?
About the same as you posting agreeably or talking sense old fruit!
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: As far as the club is concerned it is such a well oiled machine that it could run itself without a manager. There is no real need for a manager since the backroom staff choose which players to sign. The manager is only required as a figurehead. What are the odds at Ladbrokes of Donald Duck being the next manager?[/p][/quote]About the same as you posting agreeably or talking sense old fruit! Oscar's Chin
  • Score: -3

3:14pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Oscar's Chin says...

Piglet1 wrote:
Tommy11 wrote:
Albion fan in London wrote:
This is so boring I wish that they had kept Oscars resignation quiet, done all of this behind the scenes and once they had someone in post then made an announcement. As it stands we have had 7+ new potential managers over the last two weeks. This particular choice of coach IMO is a joke and as for Hypia I'm not convinced either. This is the first time I have considered cancelling my x2 season tickets. I think the way they have handled the PR of this situation is poor.(did we learn nothing from last season!!) The radio silence and speculation it creates does not fulfil me with confidence leading into another window of uncertainty surrounding our squad anda new manager. Surely this should be the most exciting and enjoyable period being a Brighton fan!
Absolutely spot on.

I have been a Season Ticket Holder at the Goldstone, Gillingham, Withdean & AMEX – and I’m starting to balance my ST on the bin.

I’m really not happy with the way the club is being run. With DK we knew where we stood – when the Argus asked who he wanted as a manager – he said who he wanted! He made it common knowledge when we used to approach other clubs to speak to their managers – such as Gannon & Rossenior.

I hate this silence, we the fans need to know what the hell is going on – as I said before we are a community football club, not a cooperate company.
But surely it doesn't matter that we don't know so long as we obtain a good candidate. A few weeks waiting is a small price to pay for a thorough screening of all available managers.
Once one is appointed this will all be forgotten.
Please do not forget that showing your hand is not always a good move and the Dick Knight method was not foolproof by any stretch of imagination.
Well said!
[quote][p][bold]Piglet1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion fan in London[/bold] wrote: This is so boring I wish that they had kept Oscars resignation quiet, done all of this behind the scenes and once they had someone in post then made an announcement. As it stands we have had 7+ new potential managers over the last two weeks. This particular choice of coach IMO is a joke and as for Hypia I'm not convinced either. This is the first time I have considered cancelling my x2 season tickets. I think the way they have handled the PR of this situation is poor.(did we learn nothing from last season!!) The radio silence and speculation it creates does not fulfil me with confidence leading into another window of uncertainty surrounding our squad anda new manager. Surely this should be the most exciting and enjoyable period being a Brighton fan![/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on. I have been a Season Ticket Holder at the Goldstone, Gillingham, Withdean & AMEX – and I’m starting to balance my ST on the bin. I’m really not happy with the way the club is being run. With DK we knew where we stood – when the Argus asked who he wanted as a manager – he said who he wanted! He made it common knowledge when we used to approach other clubs to speak to their managers – such as Gannon & Rossenior. I hate this silence, we the fans need to know what the hell is going on – as I said before we are a community football club, not a cooperate company.[/p][/quote]But surely it doesn't matter that we don't know so long as we obtain a good candidate. A few weeks waiting is a small price to pay for a thorough screening of all available managers. Once one is appointed this will all be forgotten. Please do not forget that showing your hand is not always a good move and the Dick Knight method was not foolproof by any stretch of imagination.[/p][/quote]Well said! Oscar's Chin
  • Score: 4

3:24pm Wed 4 Jun 14

fairweathersupporter says...

Non.
Non. fairweathersupporter
  • Score: 1

3:56pm Wed 4 Jun 14

tug509 says...

Hey Vegas ,
Yes absolutely ,Ronnie Moore is not the manager of Man Utd for a reason ,the same reason that our next manager will imho reflect exactly where we are ,and where we want to go ,or expect to get in the immediate future at least .

Again yes we are trying to cut our debts ,we are thankfully a responsibly run club ,as i said yesterday ,we have released a lot of staff from the clubs daily running and of course released a lot of players ,if this is not sufficient ,given our tremendous weekly gates and product sales ,not to forget sponsorships ,then we would have no option but to sell our gems like Leo ,but if that was the case then someone has a lot of explaining to do imo .

Some might see us as a stepping stone club ,some will see us as a second chance ,or indeed a start ,whether that is a player or a manager ,personally i see us as a great oportunity to play for one of the few clubs that are on the up ,an expensive jaguar ,great to look at and drive ,but cant quite afford to fill the tank until we get a pay rise (prem) .

I dont think we are risking anything for trying for the Prem ,but we are when it comes to the candidates for the Managers post ,we are cheap and you get what you pay for ,besides ,who of any worth is going to want to be the manager of a club ,that wont let him MANAGE ,wont give him a decent budget ,and wont allow him to choose his own acquisitions ?. Brighton & Hove Albion are a very attractive club to anyone ,just follow the party line and do as told !. Very sad to see our Great club take this route .

On your last point ,i did think along those lines myself ,we are holding back a war chest for one good season ,but there are several problems with that ,firstly if you dont build the squad ,you stand to loose STs revenues ,product sales and of course players ,so what you save on one hand ,you ultimately sacrifice on the other ,plus of course you drop down the table ,so attendances fall ,and the club as a whole looses some of it`s initial selling points . We all surely want the same thing at the end of the day ,and while i dont want to sound like a broken record ,having a DOF is like telling a beautiful women you have been given the all clear from the " clinic " you aint got a chance !!!. UTA
Hey Vegas , Yes absolutely ,Ronnie Moore is not the manager of Man Utd for a reason ,the same reason that our next manager will imho reflect exactly where we are ,and where we want to go ,or expect to get in the immediate future at least . Again yes we are trying to cut our debts ,we are thankfully a responsibly run club ,as i said yesterday ,we have released a lot of staff from the clubs daily running and of course released a lot of players ,if this is not sufficient ,given our tremendous weekly gates and product sales ,not to forget sponsorships ,then we would have no option but to sell our gems like Leo ,but if that was the case then someone has a lot of explaining to do imo . Some might see us as a stepping stone club ,some will see us as a second chance ,or indeed a start ,whether that is a player or a manager ,personally i see us as a great oportunity to play for one of the few clubs that are on the up ,an expensive jaguar ,great to look at and drive ,but cant quite afford to fill the tank until we get a pay rise (prem) . I dont think we are risking anything for trying for the Prem ,but we are when it comes to the candidates for the Managers post ,we are cheap and you get what you pay for ,besides ,who of any worth is going to want to be the manager of a club ,that wont let him MANAGE ,wont give him a decent budget ,and wont allow him to choose his own acquisitions ?. Brighton & Hove Albion are a very attractive club to anyone ,just follow the party line and do as told !. Very sad to see our Great club take this route . On your last point ,i did think along those lines myself ,we are holding back a war chest for one good season ,but there are several problems with that ,firstly if you dont build the squad ,you stand to loose STs revenues ,product sales and of course players ,so what you save on one hand ,you ultimately sacrifice on the other ,plus of course you drop down the table ,so attendances fall ,and the club as a whole looses some of it`s initial selling points . We all surely want the same thing at the end of the day ,and while i dont want to sound like a broken record ,having a DOF is like telling a beautiful women you have been given the all clear from the " clinic " you aint got a chance !!!. UTA tug509
  • Score: -3

3:57pm Wed 4 Jun 14

cullipmyhero says...

This is getting tedious now!
Come on Albion, learn from last year so we don't start the season playing catch up again!
This is getting tedious now! Come on Albion, learn from last year so we don't start the season playing catch up again! cullipmyhero
  • Score: -1

3:57pm Wed 4 Jun 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Hi Tug.
Would you agree that the calbre of manager we end up getting will reflect just where the club is right now?

We are a club looking to cut it's debts, and to cut them in ways that does not, 'require,' us to sell off our better players. We are also a club that might be seen by some as a stepping stone to the prem, both players and potential managers. We are a club with a strong desire to make it to the top flight, but not at the expense of risking all we have achieved during Bloom's reign. Tug do you think it possible that the best candidates, best in the eyes of the fans, just might not see us as a good fit for them for what ever their reasons might be? We might think that Brighton should be an attractive proposition for available managers, but perhaps they don't agree.

Lastly Tug, do you think it possible that the club is building a fund for the top. Could we be banking money for later use so that when we are ready to go for it, we will have the money available to buy without going into debt. A failed drive for the top that saw us debt free would be better than failing with a huge debt to pay off that can only be sorted by selling off the gems, and by doing so put us back a few years in terms of having a good squad.
Vegas come on albion building a fund,the books have to match keeping a secret little black book.

Unless we are being told big porkies we are going deeper in debt.

Bloom does not want his interset free loan back till 20??.

A new coach(manager) will be told what the rules are,and as the news we are privileged to NO MONEY NO SAY IN SIGNINGS AND THE CLUB WANTS AT LEAST A PLAYOFF POSITION.

My dog would not say yeh,want the job.He is a Doberman German,not seen one as a likely candidate for the job.

Might become the next top wanted on Blooms list.66/1 have a bet,players will be fit very fit for speed at least.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Hi Tug. Would you agree that the calbre of manager we end up getting will reflect just where the club is right now? We are a club looking to cut it's debts, and to cut them in ways that does not, 'require,' us to sell off our better players. We are also a club that might be seen by some as a stepping stone to the prem, both players and potential managers. We are a club with a strong desire to make it to the top flight, but not at the expense of risking all we have achieved during Bloom's reign. Tug do you think it possible that the best candidates, best in the eyes of the fans, just might not see us as a good fit for them for what ever their reasons might be? We might think that Brighton should be an attractive proposition for available managers, but perhaps they don't agree. Lastly Tug, do you think it possible that the club is building a fund for the top. Could we be banking money for later use so that when we are ready to go for it, we will have the money available to buy without going into debt. A failed drive for the top that saw us debt free would be better than failing with a huge debt to pay off that can only be sorted by selling off the gems, and by doing so put us back a few years in terms of having a good squad.[/p][/quote]Vegas come on albion building a fund,the books have to match keeping a secret little black book. Unless we are being told big porkies we are going deeper in debt. Bloom does not want his interset free loan back till 20??. A new coach(manager) will be told what the rules are,and as the news we are privileged to NO MONEY NO SAY IN SIGNINGS AND THE CLUB WANTS AT LEAST A PLAYOFF POSITION. My dog would not say yeh,want the job.He is a Doberman German,not seen one as a likely candidate for the job. Might become the next top wanted on Blooms list.66/1 have a bet,players will be fit very fit for speed at least. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 3

4:20pm Wed 4 Jun 14

rolivan says...

To think all of this for the appointment of a manager can't wait for the speculation as to the players that we should sign at least The World Cup will be a distraction for some though.
To think all of this for the appointment of a manager can't wait for the speculation as to the players that we should sign at least The World Cup will be a distraction for some though. rolivan
  • Score: 5

4:38pm Wed 4 Jun 14

ballantrrae says...

BREAKING NEWS
Oscar's two assistants (Juan & Ruben) have left BHA. Just flashed up (20 mins ago) on club website. Nathan Jones only member of First team coaching staff left.
BREAKING NEWS Oscar's two assistants (Juan & Ruben) have left BHA. Just flashed up (20 mins ago) on club website. Nathan Jones only member of First team coaching staff left. ballantrrae
  • Score: 3

4:39pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Claude Back says...

gordongull wrote:
We are down to the candidates for whom no photographs exist.
Doesn't look good.....
Brilliant !
That reminds me; there are some answers for which I have no questions.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: We are down to the candidates for whom no photographs exist. Doesn't look good.....[/p][/quote]Brilliant ! That reminds me; there are some answers for which I have no questions. Claude Back
  • Score: 7

4:49pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Neville says...

Ballantrae
No surprises there,both off to Tlv.
at this rate we will be lucky to be able to field 11players for our first friendly.
Shambles.
Ballantrae No surprises there,both off to Tlv. at this rate we will be lucky to be able to field 11players for our first friendly. Shambles. Neville
  • Score: -5

4:49pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Hovite says...

CantUseNSCatWork wrote:
Hovite wrote:
All these names are created by the Bookies to get people to put money on them.
Wouldn't surprise me at all. Think I might pop down the bookies at lunchtime, stick £20 on a random name and see how long it takes for that name to be mentioned :-)
;o)
[quote][p][bold]CantUseNSCatWork[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: All these names are created by the Bookies to get people to put money on them.[/p][/quote]Wouldn't surprise me at all. Think I might pop down the bookies at lunchtime, stick £20 on a random name and see how long it takes for that name to be mentioned :-)[/p][/quote];o) Hovite
  • Score: -5

4:57pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Baldseagull says...

Tommy11 wrote:
Albion fan in London wrote:
This is so boring I wish that they had kept Oscars resignation quiet, done all of this behind the scenes and once they had someone in post then made an announcement. As it stands we have had 7+ new potential managers over the last two weeks. This particular choice of coach IMO is a joke and as for Hypia I'm not convinced either. This is the first time I have considered cancelling my x2 season tickets. I think the way they have handled the PR of this situation is poor.(did we learn nothing from last season!!) The radio silence and speculation it creates does not fulfil me with confidence leading into another window of uncertainty surrounding our squad anda new manager. Surely this should be the most exciting and enjoyable period being a Brighton fan!
Absolutely spot on.

I have been a Season Ticket Holder at the Goldstone, Gillingham, Withdean & AMEX – and I’m starting to balance my ST on the bin.

I’m really not happy with the way the club is being run. With DK we knew where we stood – when the Argus asked who he wanted as a manager – he said who he wanted! He made it common knowledge when we used to approach other clubs to speak to their managers – such as Gannon & Rossenior.

I hate this silence, we the fans need to know what the hell is going on – as I said before we are a community football club, not a cooperate company.
If we were targetting a manager in employment, we would hear about it, we won't because it will cost to buy them out. As the job is open to applicants, I would hope the club spoke to everyone of interest, select a top 3 then negotiate with the 1st choice, if negotiations don't secure the man with the right T&C's, move on to number 2. We just need to wait, not sure the club has even interviewed everyone of interest yet. I would rather get the right man after careful consideration and negotiation than rush to appoint the wrong one.
[quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion fan in London[/bold] wrote: This is so boring I wish that they had kept Oscars resignation quiet, done all of this behind the scenes and once they had someone in post then made an announcement. As it stands we have had 7+ new potential managers over the last two weeks. This particular choice of coach IMO is a joke and as for Hypia I'm not convinced either. This is the first time I have considered cancelling my x2 season tickets. I think the way they have handled the PR of this situation is poor.(did we learn nothing from last season!!) The radio silence and speculation it creates does not fulfil me with confidence leading into another window of uncertainty surrounding our squad anda new manager. Surely this should be the most exciting and enjoyable period being a Brighton fan![/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on. I have been a Season Ticket Holder at the Goldstone, Gillingham, Withdean & AMEX – and I’m starting to balance my ST on the bin. I’m really not happy with the way the club is being run. With DK we knew where we stood – when the Argus asked who he wanted as a manager – he said who he wanted! He made it common knowledge when we used to approach other clubs to speak to their managers – such as Gannon & Rossenior. I hate this silence, we the fans need to know what the hell is going on – as I said before we are a community football club, not a cooperate company.[/p][/quote]If we were targetting a manager in employment, we would hear about it, we won't because it will cost to buy them out. As the job is open to applicants, I would hope the club spoke to everyone of interest, select a top 3 then negotiate with the 1st choice, if negotiations don't secure the man with the right T&C's, move on to number 2. We just need to wait, not sure the club has even interviewed everyone of interest yet. I would rather get the right man after careful consideration and negotiation than rush to appoint the wrong one. Baldseagull
  • Score: 0

5:04pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Mr Farkenbus says...

To be fair of the long list (7?) bookies tips so far have any of them taken up other clubs offers yet? Been so many mentioned I have lost track but if most of them are still in the market then not like they have gone elsewhere at this stage, so we are still in with a shout I assume for TS, CH, SH, SC etc...
To be fair of the long list (7?) bookies tips so far have any of them taken up other clubs offers yet? Been so many mentioned I have lost track but if most of them are still in the market then not like they have gone elsewhere at this stage, so we are still in with a shout I assume for TS, CH, SH, SC etc... Mr Farkenbus
  • Score: 0

5:10pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Simbosims says...

ballantrrae wrote:
Just a couple of thoughts. A number of posters have quite rightly raised the question of candidates having relevant coaching/managerial experience preferably in the UK/Championship. Question - what experience had Alan Mullery (one of most successful appointments) had when he was appointed ? Secondly we need someone who speaks English well so that the communication difficulties that apparently arose with Oscar do not re-occur. In hindsight (great thing) Oscar whilst being a great and talented coach was not quite the type of manager that the club needs. I can't see Hughton, Clarke or Hyypia posing a communications problem which cannot be said with confidence about Hantz (does he speak good English ?).
Glen Hoddle.
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: Just a couple of thoughts. A number of posters have quite rightly raised the question of candidates having relevant coaching/managerial experience preferably in the UK/Championship. Question - what experience had Alan Mullery (one of most successful appointments) had when he was appointed ? Secondly we need someone who speaks English well so that the communication difficulties that apparently arose with Oscar do not re-occur. In hindsight (great thing) Oscar whilst being a great and talented coach was not quite the type of manager that the club needs. I can't see Hughton, Clarke or Hyypia posing a communications problem which cannot be said with confidence about Hantz (does he speak good English ?).[/p][/quote]Glen Hoddle. Simbosims
  • Score: 1

5:15pm Wed 4 Jun 14

pte says...

pte wrote:
As far as the club is concerned it is such a well oiled machine that it could run itself without a manager. There is no real need for a manager since the backroom staff choose which players to sign. The manager is only required as a figurehead.

What are the odds at Ladbrokes of Donald Duck being the next manager?
Just been down to Ladbrokes and they are quoting 6/1 Double D to be next manager of BHA
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: As far as the club is concerned it is such a well oiled machine that it could run itself without a manager. There is no real need for a manager since the backroom staff choose which players to sign. The manager is only required as a figurehead. What are the odds at Ladbrokes of Donald Duck being the next manager?[/p][/quote]Just been down to Ladbrokes and they are quoting 6/1 Double D to be next manager of BHA pte
  • Score: -1

5:28pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Captain Haddock says...

Am hearing rumblings that a decision has been reached and will be announced sometime in the next 24 hours. Comes from a mate who is tight with a well known staff member fairly high up the rankings.

Identity of Oscar's successor not specified (infuriatingly but unsurprisingly).

His info can often be inconsistent but bang on more often than not.

Ties in with what Ballantrrae has just told us too. Hmmm.
Am hearing rumblings that a decision has been reached and will be announced sometime in the next 24 hours. Comes from a mate who is tight with a well known staff member fairly high up the rankings. Identity of Oscar's successor not specified (infuriatingly but unsurprisingly). His info can often be inconsistent but bang on more often than not. Ties in with what Ballantrrae has just told us too. Hmmm. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 2

5:28pm Wed 4 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

don't wanna do it like that wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Hi Tug.
Would you agree that the calbre of manager we end up getting will reflect just where the club is right now?

We are a club looking to cut it's debts, and to cut them in ways that does not, 'require,' us to sell off our better players. We are also a club that might be seen by some as a stepping stone to the prem, both players and potential managers. We are a club with a strong desire to make it to the top flight, but not at the expense of risking all we have achieved during Bloom's reign. Tug do you think it possible that the best candidates, best in the eyes of the fans, just might not see us as a good fit for them for what ever their reasons might be? We might think that Brighton should be an attractive proposition for available managers, but perhaps they don't agree.

Lastly Tug, do you think it possible that the club is building a fund for the top. Could we be banking money for later use so that when we are ready to go for it, we will have the money available to buy without going into debt. A failed drive for the top that saw us debt free would be better than failing with a huge debt to pay off that can only be sorted by selling off the gems, and by doing so put us back a few years in terms of having a good squad.
Vegas come on albion building a fund,the books have to match keeping a secret little black book.

Unless we are being told big porkies we are going deeper in debt.

Bloom does not want his interset free loan back till 20??.

A new coach(manager) will be told what the rules are,and as the news we are privileged to NO MONEY NO SAY IN SIGNINGS AND THE CLUB WANTS AT LEAST A PLAYOFF POSITION.

My dog would not say yeh,want the job.He is a Doberman German,not seen one as a likely candidate for the job.

Might become the next top wanted on Blooms list.66/1 have a bet,players will be fit very fit for speed at least.
yes we have to balance the books, but if we declare a 3 million cut in our losses, which we will as a minimum, we can bank that money, and as the FFP only requires us to cut our losses by 3 million, it might be that we can bank more, just as long as the money comes from saved losses. The effect would be that what ever the transfer budget is set at, a second war chest could be massed, with a dip into it if we had a need or saw a great chance to sign a great player.
[quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Hi Tug. Would you agree that the calbre of manager we end up getting will reflect just where the club is right now? We are a club looking to cut it's debts, and to cut them in ways that does not, 'require,' us to sell off our better players. We are also a club that might be seen by some as a stepping stone to the prem, both players and potential managers. We are a club with a strong desire to make it to the top flight, but not at the expense of risking all we have achieved during Bloom's reign. Tug do you think it possible that the best candidates, best in the eyes of the fans, just might not see us as a good fit for them for what ever their reasons might be? We might think that Brighton should be an attractive proposition for available managers, but perhaps they don't agree. Lastly Tug, do you think it possible that the club is building a fund for the top. Could we be banking money for later use so that when we are ready to go for it, we will have the money available to buy without going into debt. A failed drive for the top that saw us debt free would be better than failing with a huge debt to pay off that can only be sorted by selling off the gems, and by doing so put us back a few years in terms of having a good squad.[/p][/quote]Vegas come on albion building a fund,the books have to match keeping a secret little black book. Unless we are being told big porkies we are going deeper in debt. Bloom does not want his interset free loan back till 20??. A new coach(manager) will be told what the rules are,and as the news we are privileged to NO MONEY NO SAY IN SIGNINGS AND THE CLUB WANTS AT LEAST A PLAYOFF POSITION. My dog would not say yeh,want the job.He is a Doberman German,not seen one as a likely candidate for the job. Might become the next top wanted on Blooms list.66/1 have a bet,players will be fit very fit for speed at least.[/p][/quote]yes we have to balance the books, but if we declare a 3 million cut in our losses, which we will as a minimum, we can bank that money, and as the FFP only requires us to cut our losses by 3 million, it might be that we can bank more, just as long as the money comes from saved losses. The effect would be that what ever the transfer budget is set at, a second war chest could be massed, with a dip into it if we had a need or saw a great chance to sign a great player. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

5:42pm Wed 4 Jun 14

hannover seagull says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
Am hearing rumblings that a decision has been reached and will be announced sometime in the next 24 hours. Comes from a mate who is tight with a well known staff member fairly high up the rankings.

Identity of Oscar's successor not specified (infuriatingly but unsurprisingly).

His info can often be inconsistent but bang on more often than not.

Ties in with what Ballantrrae has just told us too. Hmmm.
Glen Hoddle was always a contender but really?
Would be happy with that
UTA
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: Am hearing rumblings that a decision has been reached and will be announced sometime in the next 24 hours. Comes from a mate who is tight with a well known staff member fairly high up the rankings. Identity of Oscar's successor not specified (infuriatingly but unsurprisingly). His info can often be inconsistent but bang on more often than not. Ties in with what Ballantrrae has just told us too. Hmmm.[/p][/quote]Glen Hoddle was always a contender but really? Would be happy with that UTA hannover seagull
  • Score: 0

5:57pm Wed 4 Jun 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Hi Tug.
Would you agree that the calbre of manager we end up getting will reflect just where the club is right now?

We are a club looking to cut it's debts, and to cut them in ways that does not, 'require,' us to sell off our better players. We are also a club that might be seen by some as a stepping stone to the prem, both players and potential managers. We are a club with a strong desire to make it to the top flight, but not at the expense of risking all we have achieved during Bloom's reign. Tug do you think it possible that the best candidates, best in the eyes of the fans, just might not see us as a good fit for them for what ever their reasons might be? We might think that Brighton should be an attractive proposition for available managers, but perhaps they don't agree.

Lastly Tug, do you think it possible that the club is building a fund for the top. Could we be banking money for later use so that when we are ready to go for it, we will have the money available to buy without going into debt. A failed drive for the top that saw us debt free would be better than failing with a huge debt to pay off that can only be sorted by selling off the gems, and by doing so put us back a few years in terms of having a good squad.
Vegas come on albion building a fund,the books have to match keeping a secret little black book.

Unless we are being told big porkies we are going deeper in debt.

Bloom does not want his interset free loan back till 20??.

A new coach(manager) will be told what the rules are,and as the news we are privileged to NO MONEY NO SAY IN SIGNINGS AND THE CLUB WANTS AT LEAST A PLAYOFF POSITION.

My dog would not say yeh,want the job.He is a Doberman German,not seen one as a likely candidate for the job.

Might become the next top wanted on Blooms list.66/1 have a bet,players will be fit very fit for speed at least.
yes we have to balance the books, but if we declare a 3 million cut in our losses, which we will as a minimum, we can bank that money, and as the FFP only requires us to cut our losses by 3 million, it might be that we can bank more, just as long as the money comes from saved losses. The effect would be that what ever the transfer budget is set at, a second war chest could be massed, with a dip into it if we had a need or saw a great chance to sign a great player.
Agree but 14-3 is11 does not comply with the FFP and i thought it had to be 5 million by december 2014 correct me if i am wrong.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Hi Tug. Would you agree that the calbre of manager we end up getting will reflect just where the club is right now? We are a club looking to cut it's debts, and to cut them in ways that does not, 'require,' us to sell off our better players. We are also a club that might be seen by some as a stepping stone to the prem, both players and potential managers. We are a club with a strong desire to make it to the top flight, but not at the expense of risking all we have achieved during Bloom's reign. Tug do you think it possible that the best candidates, best in the eyes of the fans, just might not see us as a good fit for them for what ever their reasons might be? We might think that Brighton should be an attractive proposition for available managers, but perhaps they don't agree. Lastly Tug, do you think it possible that the club is building a fund for the top. Could we be banking money for later use so that when we are ready to go for it, we will have the money available to buy without going into debt. A failed drive for the top that saw us debt free would be better than failing with a huge debt to pay off that can only be sorted by selling off the gems, and by doing so put us back a few years in terms of having a good squad.[/p][/quote]Vegas come on albion building a fund,the books have to match keeping a secret little black book. Unless we are being told big porkies we are going deeper in debt. Bloom does not want his interset free loan back till 20??. A new coach(manager) will be told what the rules are,and as the news we are privileged to NO MONEY NO SAY IN SIGNINGS AND THE CLUB WANTS AT LEAST A PLAYOFF POSITION. My dog would not say yeh,want the job.He is a Doberman German,not seen one as a likely candidate for the job. Might become the next top wanted on Blooms list.66/1 have a bet,players will be fit very fit for speed at least.[/p][/quote]yes we have to balance the books, but if we declare a 3 million cut in our losses, which we will as a minimum, we can bank that money, and as the FFP only requires us to cut our losses by 3 million, it might be that we can bank more, just as long as the money comes from saved losses. The effect would be that what ever the transfer budget is set at, a second war chest could be massed, with a dip into it if we had a need or saw a great chance to sign a great player.[/p][/quote]Agree but 14-3 is11 does not comply with the FFP and i thought it had to be 5 million by december 2014 correct me if i am wrong. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 1

6:04pm Wed 4 Jun 14

gordongull says...

In 2013-2014, Championship teams must run at an operating loss of no more than £8m, and that is only if the owner is willing to inject £5m equity. Otherwise the maximum loss is £3m.
We have been told by Paul Barber that the Club is confident of achieving the £8m losses.
I have been unable to find any evidence to substantiate the creative accounting that you envisage, Vegas.
Could you have another go at explaining how we are going to buy players with £3m of the money we have lost?
In 2013-2014, Championship teams must run at an operating loss of no more than £8m, and that is only if the owner is willing to inject £5m equity. Otherwise the maximum loss is £3m. We have been told by Paul Barber that the Club is confident of achieving the £8m losses. I have been unable to find any evidence to substantiate the creative accounting that you envisage, Vegas. Could you have another go at explaining how we are going to buy players with £3m of the money we have lost? gordongull
  • Score: -1

6:09pm Wed 4 Jun 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

gordongull wrote:
In 2013-2014, Championship teams must run at an operating loss of no more than £8m, and that is only if the owner is willing to inject £5m equity. Otherwise the maximum loss is £3m.
We have been told by Paul Barber that the Club is confident of achieving the £8m losses.
I have been unable to find any evidence to substantiate the creative accounting that you envisage, Vegas.
Could you have another go at explaining how we are going to buy players with £3m of the money we have lost?
Thanks for the info,we are in trouble trying to play fair.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: In 2013-2014, Championship teams must run at an operating loss of no more than £8m, and that is only if the owner is willing to inject £5m equity. Otherwise the maximum loss is £3m. We have been told by Paul Barber that the Club is confident of achieving the £8m losses. I have been unable to find any evidence to substantiate the creative accounting that you envisage, Vegas. Could you have another go at explaining how we are going to buy players with £3m of the money we have lost?[/p][/quote]Thanks for the info,we are in trouble trying to play fair. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 0

6:11pm Wed 4 Jun 14

brighton bluenose says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Hi Tug.
Would you agree that the calbre of manager we end up getting will reflect just where the club is right now?

We are a club looking to cut it's debts, and to cut them in ways that does not, 'require,' us to sell off our better players. We are also a club that might be seen by some as a stepping stone to the prem, both players and potential managers. We are a club with a strong desire to make it to the top flight, but not at the expense of risking all we have achieved during Bloom's reign. Tug do you think it possible that the best candidates, best in the eyes of the fans, just might not see us as a good fit for them for what ever their reasons might be? We might think that Brighton should be an attractive proposition for available managers, but perhaps they don't agree.

Lastly Tug, do you think it possible that the club is building a fund for the top. Could we be banking money for later use so that when we are ready to go for it, we will have the money available to buy without going into debt. A failed drive for the top that saw us debt free would be better than failing with a huge debt to pay off that can only be sorted by selling off the gems, and by doing so put us back a few years in terms of having a good squad.
I do agree with your point about BHA not being as attractive a proposition as we might like to think - but regarding our finances losing £8million and £14million respectively over the last two years hardly sounds like we are 'building a fund' to me!!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Hi Tug. Would you agree that the calbre of manager we end up getting will reflect just where the club is right now? We are a club looking to cut it's debts, and to cut them in ways that does not, 'require,' us to sell off our better players. We are also a club that might be seen by some as a stepping stone to the prem, both players and potential managers. We are a club with a strong desire to make it to the top flight, but not at the expense of risking all we have achieved during Bloom's reign. Tug do you think it possible that the best candidates, best in the eyes of the fans, just might not see us as a good fit for them for what ever their reasons might be? We might think that Brighton should be an attractive proposition for available managers, but perhaps they don't agree. Lastly Tug, do you think it possible that the club is building a fund for the top. Could we be banking money for later use so that when we are ready to go for it, we will have the money available to buy without going into debt. A failed drive for the top that saw us debt free would be better than failing with a huge debt to pay off that can only be sorted by selling off the gems, and by doing so put us back a few years in terms of having a good squad.[/p][/quote]I do agree with your point about BHA not being as attractive a proposition as we might like to think - but regarding our finances losing £8million and £14million respectively over the last two years hardly sounds like we are 'building a fund' to me!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 4

6:25pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Vince says...

DuncanThickett wrote:
peterpan32 wrote: And it goes on. Im normally a patient kind of guy, but slowly starting to lose it. Who will it be tomoz? Time for an update from the club please.
Well, law of averages, i guess it'll be my turn soon. Keeping the mobile on just in case...
The other guy mentioned "Peter Pan" is a wonderful sounding name for our new manager - but instead of "we never grow up" - Peter Pan's catchphrase for the Albion would be "we will never go up" while Nathan Jones is my assistant. He could also save the club money by selling the new training complex at Lancing and have training at "Peter Pan's playground on Brighton seafront! That would please the B's.

But will the Premiership always be the Neverland as far as BHA are concerned? I just hope that this is not the case and we overcome the restrictions imposed by Captain Hook (played by Paul Barber) and his ticking crocodile (Burke) ready to swallow up any profligate manager. And that eventually Wendy (Bloom) will take us to the PROMISED LAND!
[quote][p][bold]DuncanThickett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peterpan32[/bold] wrote: And it goes on. Im normally a patient kind of guy, but slowly starting to lose it. Who will it be tomoz? Time for an update from the club please.[/p][/quote]Well, law of averages, i guess it'll be my turn soon. Keeping the mobile on just in case...[/p][/quote]The other guy mentioned "Peter Pan" is a wonderful sounding name for our new manager - but instead of "we never grow up" - Peter Pan's catchphrase for the Albion would be "we will never go up" while Nathan Jones is my assistant. He could also save the club money by selling the new training complex at Lancing and have training at "Peter Pan's playground on Brighton seafront! That would please the B's. But will the Premiership always be the Neverland as far as BHA are concerned? I just hope that this is not the case and we overcome the restrictions imposed by Captain Hook (played by Paul Barber) and his ticking crocodile (Burke) ready to swallow up any profligate manager. And that eventually Wendy (Bloom) will take us to the PROMISED LAND! Vince
  • Score: 2

6:28pm Wed 4 Jun 14

JeffLomer says...

Never a dull moment being a Brighton fan on here!!
Up the Albion!!
Never a dull moment being a Brighton fan on here!! Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 3

6:43pm Wed 4 Jun 14

peterpan32 says...

Vince wrote:
DuncanThickett wrote:
peterpan32 wrote: And it goes on. Im normally a patient kind of guy, but slowly starting to lose it. Who will it be tomoz? Time for an update from the club please.
Well, law of averages, i guess it'll be my turn soon. Keeping the mobile on just in case...
The other guy mentioned "Peter Pan" is a wonderful sounding name for our new manager - but instead of "we never grow up" - Peter Pan's catchphrase for the Albion would be "we will never go up" while Nathan Jones is my assistant. He could also save the club money by selling the new training complex at Lancing and have training at "Peter Pan's playground on Brighton seafront! That would please the B's.

But will the Premiership always be the Neverland as far as BHA are concerned? I just hope that this is not the case and we overcome the restrictions imposed by Captain Hook (played by Paul Barber) and his ticking crocodile (Burke) ready to swallow up any profligate manager. And that eventually Wendy (Bloom) will take us to the PROMISED LAND!
Very good!!!
[quote][p][bold]Vince[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DuncanThickett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peterpan32[/bold] wrote: And it goes on. Im normally a patient kind of guy, but slowly starting to lose it. Who will it be tomoz? Time for an update from the club please.[/p][/quote]Well, law of averages, i guess it'll be my turn soon. Keeping the mobile on just in case...[/p][/quote]The other guy mentioned "Peter Pan" is a wonderful sounding name for our new manager - but instead of "we never grow up" - Peter Pan's catchphrase for the Albion would be "we will never go up" while Nathan Jones is my assistant. He could also save the club money by selling the new training complex at Lancing and have training at "Peter Pan's playground on Brighton seafront! That would please the B's. But will the Premiership always be the Neverland as far as BHA are concerned? I just hope that this is not the case and we overcome the restrictions imposed by Captain Hook (played by Paul Barber) and his ticking crocodile (Burke) ready to swallow up any profligate manager. And that eventually Wendy (Bloom) will take us to the PROMISED LAND![/p][/quote]Very good!!! peterpan32
  • Score: 1

7:11pm Wed 4 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

To make cuts in our losses by 3 million would suggest that Bloom is putting in the other 5 million, bringing us down to a loss figure of 8 million, to ensure we comply.
We have sold players but Barber told us that reaching our FFP goals did not demand that we sell players, ergo, most of the money gained from selling, we haven't spent much, is sitting in the bank where it can stay untill needed.
We had a transfer budget last year and we will have one this year, neither had, or will have, anything to do with selling players, that money is generated in normal business.
Add up what came in last year from sells, deduct Stephens fee and then add what we didn't spend from last year's budget, money is sitting in the bank.
The FFP rules require us to make the minimum cut in losses, it doesn't require us to make the largest cut possible.
To make cuts in our losses by 3 million would suggest that Bloom is putting in the other 5 million, bringing us down to a loss figure of 8 million, to ensure we comply. We have sold players but Barber told us that reaching our FFP goals did not demand that we sell players, ergo, most of the money gained from selling, we haven't spent much, is sitting in the bank where it can stay untill needed. We had a transfer budget last year and we will have one this year, neither had, or will have, anything to do with selling players, that money is generated in normal business. Add up what came in last year from sells, deduct Stephens fee and then add what we didn't spend from last year's budget, money is sitting in the bank. The FFP rules require us to make the minimum cut in losses, it doesn't require us to make the largest cut possible. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

7:14pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Far gull says...

Most valid comments on here relate to Money.
FACT. forget FFP, Prem league ,money men to tight etc,etc, lets deal with the facts last two years we have lost approximately 20 million, in last 5 yrs we have spent (Tony has spent give or take 130 million,just on infrastructure not withstanding any players we have bought ,and yes we have sold a few at a profit ! ) and we have got good income but.....
Questions (answers please anyone who cares about Albion)
Has your company or employer lost that kind of money in last two years and you are still in a job?
Have you ever borrowed money and NOT had to pay some interest?
Reality check folks you cannot lose money indefinately and Barber and Burke for all we may think of them (me included not agreeing with structure) are actually trying to keep the club solvent. End Of.
Boring as current situ is ,i think Tony backed Gus and gambled at the time we bought Leo Ulloa,we lost and we have been picking up pieces since.
Imagine this senario at a meeting in that January Gus and Tony wanted to go for it (bought leo),Tony backed Gus, but Barber and Burke (who Tony had employed for their skills) were against it . Tony and Gus turned out to be wrong(hence Tony felt so let down by Gus in March when he decided he wanted to leave) and ever since Tony has pretty much had to respect them and go with their thinking or sack them. They were then left to pick up finacially pieces ,which in fairness to them they have . So now even if he wanted to Tony cannot pump in mega bucks and we as a club are left all waiting over FFP situ but come what may we will a least not get a fine.
Potential managers may not like the financial situ,fans may not (me included ) But ...... we will be solvent ,and an attractive proposition for a mega investor in the not to distant future. Playing the long game is right if currently bl----y annoying imho
Most valid comments on here relate to Money. FACT. forget FFP, Prem league ,money men to tight etc,etc, lets deal with the facts last two years we have lost approximately 20 million, in last 5 yrs we have spent (Tony has spent give or take 130 million,just on infrastructure not withstanding any players we have bought ,and yes we have sold a few at a profit ! ) and we have got good income but..... Questions (answers please anyone who cares about Albion) Has your company or employer lost that kind of money in last two years and you are still in a job? Have you ever borrowed money and NOT had to pay some interest? Reality check folks you cannot lose money indefinately and Barber and Burke for all we may think of them (me included not agreeing with structure) are actually trying to keep the club solvent. End Of. Boring as current situ is ,i think Tony backed Gus and gambled at the time we bought Leo Ulloa,we lost and we have been picking up pieces since. Imagine this senario at a meeting in that January Gus and Tony wanted to go for it (bought leo),Tony backed Gus, but Barber and Burke (who Tony had employed for their skills) were against it . Tony and Gus turned out to be wrong(hence Tony felt so let down by Gus in March when he decided he wanted to leave) and ever since Tony has pretty much had to respect them and go with their thinking or sack them. They were then left to pick up finacially pieces ,which in fairness to them they have . So now even if he wanted to Tony cannot pump in mega bucks and we as a club are left all waiting over FFP situ but come what may we will a least not get a fine. Potential managers may not like the financial situ,fans may not (me included ) But ...... we will be solvent ,and an attractive proposition for a mega investor in the not to distant future. Playing the long game is right if currently bl----y annoying imho Far gull
  • Score: 1

7:26pm Wed 4 Jun 14

gordongull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
To make cuts in our losses by 3 million would suggest that Bloom is putting in the other 5 million, bringing us down to a loss figure of 8 million, to ensure we comply.
We have sold players but Barber told us that reaching our FFP goals did not demand that we sell players, ergo, most of the money gained from selling, we haven't spent much, is sitting in the bank where it can stay untill needed.
We had a transfer budget last year and we will have one this year, neither had, or will have, anything to do with selling players, that money is generated in normal business.
Add up what came in last year from sells, deduct Stephens fee and then add what we didn't spend from last year's budget, money is sitting in the bank.
The FFP rules require us to make the minimum cut in losses, it doesn't require us to make the largest cut possible.
.......bringing us down to a loss figure of £8m...
Down from what?
£8m is the maximum loss BEFORE Mr Bloom can inject the £5m equity.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: To make cuts in our losses by 3 million would suggest that Bloom is putting in the other 5 million, bringing us down to a loss figure of 8 million, to ensure we comply. We have sold players but Barber told us that reaching our FFP goals did not demand that we sell players, ergo, most of the money gained from selling, we haven't spent much, is sitting in the bank where it can stay untill needed. We had a transfer budget last year and we will have one this year, neither had, or will have, anything to do with selling players, that money is generated in normal business. Add up what came in last year from sells, deduct Stephens fee and then add what we didn't spend from last year's budget, money is sitting in the bank. The FFP rules require us to make the minimum cut in losses, it doesn't require us to make the largest cut possible.[/p][/quote].......bringing us down to a loss figure of £8m... Down from what? £8m is the maximum loss BEFORE Mr Bloom can inject the £5m equity. gordongull
  • Score: -1

7:35pm Wed 4 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
To make cuts in our losses by 3 million would suggest that Bloom is putting in the other 5 million, bringing us down to a loss figure of 8 million, to ensure we comply.
We have sold players but Barber told us that reaching our FFP goals did not demand that we sell players, ergo, most of the money gained from selling, we haven't spent much, is sitting in the bank where it can stay untill needed.
We had a transfer budget last year and we will have one this year, neither had, or will have, anything to do with selling players, that money is generated in normal business.
Add up what came in last year from sells, deduct Stephens fee and then add what we didn't spend from last year's budget, money is sitting in the bank.
The FFP rules require us to make the minimum cut in losses, it doesn't require us to make the largest cut possible.
.......bringing us down to a loss figure of £8m...
Down from what?
£8m is the maximum loss BEFORE Mr Bloom can inject the £5m equity.
from 14 million, the declared losses of the season before last.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: To make cuts in our losses by 3 million would suggest that Bloom is putting in the other 5 million, bringing us down to a loss figure of 8 million, to ensure we comply. We have sold players but Barber told us that reaching our FFP goals did not demand that we sell players, ergo, most of the money gained from selling, we haven't spent much, is sitting in the bank where it can stay untill needed. We had a transfer budget last year and we will have one this year, neither had, or will have, anything to do with selling players, that money is generated in normal business. Add up what came in last year from sells, deduct Stephens fee and then add what we didn't spend from last year's budget, money is sitting in the bank. The FFP rules require us to make the minimum cut in losses, it doesn't require us to make the largest cut possible.[/p][/quote].......bringing us down to a loss figure of £8m... Down from what? £8m is the maximum loss BEFORE Mr Bloom can inject the £5m equity.[/p][/quote]from 14 million, the declared losses of the season before last. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

7:48pm Wed 4 Jun 14

gordongull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
To make cuts in our losses by 3 million would suggest that Bloom is putting in the other 5 million, bringing us down to a loss figure of 8 million, to ensure we comply.
We have sold players but Barber told us that reaching our FFP goals did not demand that we sell players, ergo, most of the money gained from selling, we haven't spent much, is sitting in the bank where it can stay untill needed.
We had a transfer budget last year and we will have one this year, neither had, or will have, anything to do with selling players, that money is generated in normal business.
Add up what came in last year from sells, deduct Stephens fee and then add what we didn't spend from last year's budget, money is sitting in the bank.
The FFP rules require us to make the minimum cut in losses, it doesn't require us to make the largest cut possible.
.......bringing us down to a loss figure of £8m...
Down from what?
£8m is the maximum loss BEFORE Mr Bloom can inject the £5m equity.
from 14 million, the declared losses of the season before last.
The season before last was pre-FFP. Are you saying that the amount of losses above £8m for that year is added to this year's figure for FFP purposes?
Why not just add the whole £14M, or add nothing. it was pre FFP.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: To make cuts in our losses by 3 million would suggest that Bloom is putting in the other 5 million, bringing us down to a loss figure of 8 million, to ensure we comply. We have sold players but Barber told us that reaching our FFP goals did not demand that we sell players, ergo, most of the money gained from selling, we haven't spent much, is sitting in the bank where it can stay untill needed. We had a transfer budget last year and we will have one this year, neither had, or will have, anything to do with selling players, that money is generated in normal business. Add up what came in last year from sells, deduct Stephens fee and then add what we didn't spend from last year's budget, money is sitting in the bank. The FFP rules require us to make the minimum cut in losses, it doesn't require us to make the largest cut possible.[/p][/quote].......bringing us down to a loss figure of £8m... Down from what? £8m is the maximum loss BEFORE Mr Bloom can inject the £5m equity.[/p][/quote]from 14 million, the declared losses of the season before last.[/p][/quote]The season before last was pre-FFP. Are you saying that the amount of losses above £8m for that year is added to this year's figure for FFP purposes? Why not just add the whole £14M, or add nothing. it was pre FFP. gordongull
  • Score: -4

7:49pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Bha1901ch says...

We really are scraping the barrell now
What is going on !!
We really are scraping the barrell now What is going on !! Bha1901ch
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10:19pm Wed 4 Jun 14

arc12 says...

Am expecting Nathan Jones to be appointed Friday.
Am expecting Nathan Jones to be appointed Friday. arc12
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10:24pm Wed 4 Jun 14

gordongull says...

fairweathersupporter wrote:
Non.
He could be just the oui man the Club is looking for.
[quote][p][bold]fairweathersupporter[/bold] wrote: Non.[/p][/quote]He could be just the oui man the Club is looking for. gordongull
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10:54pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Falmer Wizard says...

Another day,another possible manager,this show could go on & on & on..................
......
What are the odds for the dream team of Di Canio & Jones ?
Another day,another possible manager,this show could go on & on & on.................. ...... What are the odds for the dream team of Di Canio & Jones ? Falmer Wizard
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11:37pm Wed 4 Jun 14

tinker111 says...

gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
To make cuts in our losses by 3 million would suggest that Bloom is putting in the other 5 million, bringing us down to a loss figure of 8 million, to ensure we comply.
We have sold players but Barber told us that reaching our FFP goals did not demand that we sell players, ergo, most of the money gained from selling, we haven't spent much, is sitting in the bank where it can stay untill needed.
We had a transfer budget last year and we will have one this year, neither had, or will have, anything to do with selling players, that money is generated in normal business.
Add up what came in last year from sells, deduct Stephens fee and then add what we didn't spend from last year's budget, money is sitting in the bank.
The FFP rules require us to make the minimum cut in losses, it doesn't require us to make the largest cut possible.
.......bringing us down to a loss figure of £8m...
Down from what?
£8m is the maximum loss BEFORE Mr Bloom can inject the £5m equity.
from 14 million, the declared losses of the season before last.
The season before last was pre-FFP. Are you saying that the amount of losses above £8m for that year is added to this year's figure for FFP purposes?
Why not just add the whole £14M, or add nothing. it was pre FFP.
Sound's like creative book keeping to me ???? all these losses etc and with the much better gates than what was needed to break even .
Do think we have got to the bottom of barrel (VERY BOTTEM) with the names that are coming up must assume the best have said a BIG NO under the current set up with BURKE ETC maybe it is time for some changes(big )
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: To make cuts in our losses by 3 million would suggest that Bloom is putting in the other 5 million, bringing us down to a loss figure of 8 million, to ensure we comply. We have sold players but Barber told us that reaching our FFP goals did not demand that we sell players, ergo, most of the money gained from selling, we haven't spent much, is sitting in the bank where it can stay untill needed. We had a transfer budget last year and we will have one this year, neither had, or will have, anything to do with selling players, that money is generated in normal business. Add up what came in last year from sells, deduct Stephens fee and then add what we didn't spend from last year's budget, money is sitting in the bank. The FFP rules require us to make the minimum cut in losses, it doesn't require us to make the largest cut possible.[/p][/quote].......bringing us down to a loss figure of £8m... Down from what? £8m is the maximum loss BEFORE Mr Bloom can inject the £5m equity.[/p][/quote]from 14 million, the declared losses of the season before last.[/p][/quote]The season before last was pre-FFP. Are you saying that the amount of losses above £8m for that year is added to this year's figure for FFP purposes? Why not just add the whole £14M, or add nothing. it was pre FFP.[/p][/quote]Sound's like creative book keeping to me ???? all these losses etc and with the much better gates than what was needed to break even . Do think we have got to the bottom of barrel (VERY BOTTEM) with the names that are coming up must assume the best have said a BIG NO under the current set up with BURKE ETC maybe it is time for some changes(big ) tinker111
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7:29pm Thu 5 Jun 14

OldGull says...

People, you need to chill.
In the good old days before online chat sites, We would have drifted along in blind ignorance as to the goings on at a football club for 2 months.
We would read the argus for Albion news (Usually thursday had the most info).
Why so many of you feel that TB should give you daily or weekly bulletins is beyond me.
TB is taking his time to select the right man.
And just because you have not heard of certain candidates, does not mean they are rubbish.
People keep banging on about needing championship experience. WHY?
Considering half of the managers lost their jobs last year you could argue there were 30+ championship managers of which only 3 achieved promotion. Therefor 90% didnt.

Look on the bright side, we only have 16 1st team squad players so we are saving money on wages.

The good news is the new manager will need to bring in 10 new players, so it will be his team.
Keep those glasses half full
UTA
People, you need to chill. In the good old days before online chat sites, We would have drifted along in blind ignorance as to the goings on at a football club for 2 months. We would read the argus for Albion news (Usually thursday had the most info). Why so many of you feel that TB should give you daily or weekly bulletins is beyond me. TB is taking his time to select the right man. And just because you have not heard of certain candidates, does not mean they are rubbish. People keep banging on about needing championship experience. WHY? Considering half of the managers lost their jobs last year you could argue there were 30+ championship managers of which only 3 achieved promotion. Therefor 90% didnt. Look on the bright side, we only have 16 1st team squad players so we are saving money on wages. The good news is the new manager will need to bring in 10 new players, so it will be his team. Keep those glasses half full UTA OldGull
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