Albion talking point - how will Hyypia fare?

New boss Sami Hyypia

New boss Sami Hyypia

First published in Sport

Sami Hyppia is the new man in charge at Albion.

So what do you make of his appointment on a three-year deal?

Are you delighted to see a well known and popular figure from the Premier League and Bundesliga at the helm?

Or would you prefer to have seen a more experienced Championship campaigner appointed?

How will Sami get on at the Amex?

We'd love your feedback.

The pick of the readers' comments will appear in the Argus tomorrow.

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7:39pm Fri 6 Jun 14

mark by the sea says...

Question is what help is he going to get? If he gets a budget which is competitive he should do well, but I have to wonder how he will ever get support from jones as he is the clubs man.
I wish him well over next 4 weeks where building a squad and trying to hold onto ulloa and Buckley will be the test.
This appointment must work , simple as that or the suits need to go.
Question is what help is he going to get? If he gets a budget which is competitive he should do well, but I have to wonder how he will ever get support from jones as he is the clubs man. I wish him well over next 4 weeks where building a squad and trying to hold onto ulloa and Buckley will be the test. This appointment must work , simple as that or the suits need to go. mark by the sea
  • Score: -36

7:45pm Fri 6 Jun 14

OldGull says...

Quite simply,
I am Happier with Hyypia
He was a top player in the PL and he has experience in the Bundesliga
Looking forward to the new season
UTA
Quite simply, I am Happier with Hyypia He was a top player in the PL and he has experience in the Bundesliga Looking forward to the new season UTA OldGull
  • Score: 47

7:46pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Uckfield Seagull says...

Glad its all over, glad to have a name, glad to have a pre season under a new man, lets all get behind Hyypia and take this great club places
Glad its all over, glad to have a name, glad to have a pre season under a new man, lets all get behind Hyypia and take this great club places Uckfield Seagull
  • Score: 49

7:47pm Fri 6 Jun 14

ringtone says...

Great appointment.

Now give him a war chest of between 30-40 million and watch us fly.

UTA
Great appointment. Now give him a war chest of between 30-40 million and watch us fly. UTA ringtone
  • Score: -26

8:02pm Fri 6 Jun 14

tug509 says...

So SH has been shafted already ,NJ is his assistant ...WHY ,i dont believe SH hasn`t got his own lads in mind ,we do not need a parasite like jones for another season ,a brainless no nothing at that ,if this does not prove who is running our Great club ,than nothing will ,forget B&B it`s Dumb & Dumber ,and we are Dumbest for excepting it with a smile ,Sammii welcome nathan naff off .
So SH has been shafted already ,NJ is his assistant ...WHY ,i dont believe SH hasn`t got his own lads in mind ,we do not need a parasite like jones for another season ,a brainless no nothing at that ,if this does not prove who is running our Great club ,than nothing will ,forget B&B it`s Dumb & Dumber ,and we are Dumbest for excepting it with a smile ,Sammii welcome nathan naff off . tug509
  • Score: -65

8:04pm Fri 6 Jun 14

mark by the sea says...

tug509 wrote:
So SH has been shafted already ,NJ is his assistant ...WHY ,i dont believe SH hasn`t got his own lads in mind ,we do not need a parasite like jones for another season ,a brainless no nothing at that ,if this does not prove who is running our Great club ,than nothing will ,forget B&B it`s Dumb & Dumber ,and we are Dumbest for excepting it with a smile ,Sammii welcome nathan naff off .
Don't take gods name is vein lol some on here believe sh wants jones.. Let's pretend.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: So SH has been shafted already ,NJ is his assistant ...WHY ,i dont believe SH hasn`t got his own lads in mind ,we do not need a parasite like jones for another season ,a brainless no nothing at that ,if this does not prove who is running our Great club ,than nothing will ,forget B&B it`s Dumb & Dumber ,and we are Dumbest for excepting it with a smile ,Sammii welcome nathan naff off .[/p][/quote]Don't take gods name is vein lol some on here believe sh wants jones.. Let's pretend. mark by the sea
  • Score: -40

8:06pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Hazey James says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Question is what help is he going to get? If he gets a budget which is competitive he should do well, but I have to wonder how he will ever get support from jones as he is the clubs man.
I wish him well over next 4 weeks where building a squad and trying to hold onto ulloa and Buckley will be the test.
This appointment must work , simple as that or the suits need to go.
Top quality stadium completed, over 20,000 season ticket holders consistently renewing, top quality training ground completed, two playoff finishes back-to-back, quality international signings brought in without breaking the bank and the suits might have to go?... I can only conclude that you have unrealistic expectations.

The club is in a fantastic position with the best chairman that anyone could possibly wish for. As a season ticket holder throughout the last 22 years at the Goldstone, Priestfield and Withdean, I am astounded that anyone could view our current situation as anything other than brilliant.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Question is what help is he going to get? If he gets a budget which is competitive he should do well, but I have to wonder how he will ever get support from jones as he is the clubs man. I wish him well over next 4 weeks where building a squad and trying to hold onto ulloa and Buckley will be the test. This appointment must work , simple as that or the suits need to go.[/p][/quote]Top quality stadium completed, over 20,000 season ticket holders consistently renewing, top quality training ground completed, two playoff finishes back-to-back, quality international signings brought in without breaking the bank and the suits might have to go?... I can only conclude that you have unrealistic expectations. The club is in a fantastic position with the best chairman that anyone could possibly wish for. As a season ticket holder throughout the last 22 years at the Goldstone, Priestfield and Withdean, I am astounded that anyone could view our current situation as anything other than brilliant. Hazey James
  • Score: 130

8:14pm Fri 6 Jun 14

tug509 says...

Hazey James wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Question is what help is he going to get? If he gets a budget which is competitive he should do well, but I have to wonder how he will ever get support from jones as he is the clubs man.
I wish him well over next 4 weeks where building a squad and trying to hold onto ulloa and Buckley will be the test.
This appointment must work , simple as that or the suits need to go.
Top quality stadium completed, over 20,000 season ticket holders consistently renewing, top quality training ground completed, two playoff finishes back-to-back, quality international signings brought in without breaking the bank and the suits might have to go?... I can only conclude that you have unrealistic expectations.

The club is in a fantastic position with the best chairman that anyone could possibly wish for. As a season ticket holder throughout the last 22 years at the Goldstone, Priestfield and Withdean, I am astounded that anyone could view our current situation as anything other than brilliant.
So you hold jones in esteem !!! :0)
[quote][p][bold]Hazey James[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Question is what help is he going to get? If he gets a budget which is competitive he should do well, but I have to wonder how he will ever get support from jones as he is the clubs man. I wish him well over next 4 weeks where building a squad and trying to hold onto ulloa and Buckley will be the test. This appointment must work , simple as that or the suits need to go.[/p][/quote]Top quality stadium completed, over 20,000 season ticket holders consistently renewing, top quality training ground completed, two playoff finishes back-to-back, quality international signings brought in without breaking the bank and the suits might have to go?... I can only conclude that you have unrealistic expectations. The club is in a fantastic position with the best chairman that anyone could possibly wish for. As a season ticket holder throughout the last 22 years at the Goldstone, Priestfield and Withdean, I am astounded that anyone could view our current situation as anything other than brilliant.[/p][/quote]So you hold jones in esteem !!! :0) tug509
  • Score: -48

8:15pm Fri 6 Jun 14

graham w says...

At last we can get on with summer now..all he needs is a good budget....!!!!!!!!!! Here's hoping...?????
At last we can get on with summer now..all he needs is a good budget....!!!!!!!!!! Here's hoping...????? graham w
  • Score: 17

8:17pm Fri 6 Jun 14

mark5 says...

Good appointment from my perspective, let us hope he can bring some decent players in. He must have some good contacts! I do not know why so many here are so anti Jones? Let's not forget he helped OG, achieve a top 6 finish with all the problems of adjustment after Gus left, not to mention the injuries they had to cope with. I don't think this was a shoddy achievement at all!! If SH did not want him, I am sure he would have had a say in who assisted him! Anyway, onwards and upwards, we can relax a little more now and look forward to some signings hopefully.......!
Good appointment from my perspective, let us hope he can bring some decent players in. He must have some good contacts! I do not know why so many here are so anti Jones? Let's not forget he helped OG, achieve a top 6 finish with all the problems of adjustment after Gus left, not to mention the injuries they had to cope with. I don't think this was a shoddy achievement at all!! If SH did not want him, I am sure he would have had a say in who assisted him! Anyway, onwards and upwards, we can relax a little more now and look forward to some signings hopefully.......! mark5
  • Score: 30

8:18pm Fri 6 Jun 14

OldGull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
tug509 wrote:
So SH has been shafted already ,NJ is his assistant ...WHY ,i dont believe SH hasn`t got his own lads in mind ,we do not need a parasite like jones for another season ,a brainless no nothing at that ,if this does not prove who is running our Great club ,than nothing will ,forget B&B it`s Dumb & Dumber ,and we are Dumbest for excepting it with a smile ,Sammii welcome nathan naff off .
Don't take gods name is vein lol some on here believe sh wants jones.. Let's pretend.
You 2 are such happy souls.
As I said on a previous post I don't know whether Sami wants NJ or not.
You may find he was quite happy to have a bit of continuity at the club.
Perhaps the players think NJ is a good coach.
You 2 certainly do not know if he is or not, you just choose to dislike him.
Please tell me why you think her is a parasite, I am sure it will be enlightening.
In the meantime I will support SH and NJ because that is what I do.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: So SH has been shafted already ,NJ is his assistant ...WHY ,i dont believe SH hasn`t got his own lads in mind ,we do not need a parasite like jones for another season ,a brainless no nothing at that ,if this does not prove who is running our Great club ,than nothing will ,forget B&B it`s Dumb & Dumber ,and we are Dumbest for excepting it with a smile ,Sammii welcome nathan naff off .[/p][/quote]Don't take gods name is vein lol some on here believe sh wants jones.. Let's pretend.[/p][/quote]You 2 are such happy souls. As I said on a previous post I don't know whether Sami wants NJ or not. You may find he was quite happy to have a bit of continuity at the club. Perhaps the players think NJ is a good coach. You 2 certainly do not know if he is or not, you just choose to dislike him. Please tell me why you think her is a parasite, I am sure it will be enlightening. In the meantime I will support SH and NJ because that is what I do. OldGull
  • Score: 44

8:19pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Mrs Honeyman says...

Just waiting for SamiMustGo to login and comment
Just waiting for SamiMustGo to login and comment Mrs Honeyman
  • Score: 7

8:22pm Fri 6 Jun 14

blueskiesfromnowon says...

Well, guess we've got to get behind the guy now. Still think he has a touch of the axe weilding maniac about him, and this photo doesn't do much to allay my fears. Mind you, you could say the same about Gus and we didn't do too badly with him...
Well, guess we've got to get behind the guy now. Still think he has a touch of the axe weilding maniac about him, and this photo doesn't do much to allay my fears. Mind you, you could say the same about Gus and we didn't do too badly with him... blueskiesfromnowon
  • Score: -4

8:26pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Justin says...

What is all this nonsense with some people on here. If you don't like the way the club is run have the courage to criticise TB not DB or PB? Similarly, if you don't like the way the team plays you should criticise OG not NJ. This constant sniping at the individuals at the club by some posters reflects badly and clearly shared by most fans as judged by the like/dislike counts. Well done to all at the club on taking us to where we are and I'm sure SH will be a great part of the team taking us even further.
What is all this nonsense with some people on here. If you don't like the way the club is run have the courage to criticise TB not DB or PB? Similarly, if you don't like the way the team plays you should criticise OG not NJ. This constant sniping at the individuals at the club by some posters reflects badly and clearly shared by most fans as judged by the like/dislike counts. Well done to all at the club on taking us to where we are and I'm sure SH will be a great part of the team taking us even further. Justin
  • Score: 48

8:26pm Fri 6 Jun 14

starlion says...

Look at him, look at his face ... blooming freeloader, bleeding us dry. He looks like Dunk , is he Dunk's uncle .. freeloading bleeder. I saw him down the marina last night, drunk on drink .. freeloading before he is even appointed. I'm going to tell Dick Knight about it all the next time i see him .. and i see him all the time you know. Name me just one scout who thinks Hypia is any good. go on just name me one ...

Anyway, welcome Sami .. a cracking appointment I'd say. Agree with some of the points about him being given free rein, let's hope he is given the scope and freedom to do things his way. SEEEAGULLS
Look at him, look at his face ... blooming freeloader, bleeding us dry. He looks like Dunk , is he Dunk's uncle .. freeloading bleeder. I saw him down the marina last night, drunk on drink .. freeloading before he is even appointed. I'm going to tell Dick Knight about it all the next time i see him .. and i see him all the time you know. Name me just one scout who thinks Hypia is any good. go on just name me one ... Anyway, welcome Sami .. a cracking appointment I'd say. Agree with some of the points about him being given free rein, let's hope he is given the scope and freedom to do things his way. SEEEAGULLS starlion
  • Score: 22

8:28pm Fri 6 Jun 14

MLEE says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Question is what help is he going to get? If he gets a budget which is competitive he should do well, but I have to wonder how he will ever get support from jones as he is the clubs man.
I wish him well over next 4 weeks where building a squad and trying to hold onto ulloa and Buckley will be the test.
This appointment must work , simple as that or the suits need to go.
Sorry Mark,but nothing(and rightly ) will change.The budget will be mid table.If a premiership team comes for any player,and the price is right,then he will be sold.Jones,helped get the team to the play offs...! and Bloom is the only suit that matters,the others are striving to meet his targets.If the manager can get the best out the team (Pullis ) then maybe.......
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Question is what help is he going to get? If he gets a budget which is competitive he should do well, but I have to wonder how he will ever get support from jones as he is the clubs man. I wish him well over next 4 weeks where building a squad and trying to hold onto ulloa and Buckley will be the test. This appointment must work , simple as that or the suits need to go.[/p][/quote]Sorry Mark,but nothing(and rightly ) will change.The budget will be mid table.If a premiership team comes for any player,and the price is right,then he will be sold.Jones,helped get the team to the play offs...! and Bloom is the only suit that matters,the others are striving to meet his targets.If the manager can get the best out the team (Pullis ) then maybe....... MLEE
  • Score: 11

8:28pm Fri 6 Jun 14

ringtone says...

Hazey James wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Question is what help is he going to get? If he gets a budget which is competitive he should do well, but I have to wonder how he will ever get support from jones as he is the clubs man.
I wish him well over next 4 weeks where building a squad and trying to hold onto ulloa and Buckley will be the test.
This appointment must work , simple as that or the suits need to go.
Top quality stadium completed, over 20,000 season ticket holders consistently renewing, top quality training ground completed, two playoff finishes back-to-back, quality international signings brought in without breaking the bank and the suits might have to go?... I can only conclude that you have unrealistic expectations.

The club is in a fantastic position with the best chairman that anyone could possibly wish for. As a season ticket holder throughout the last 22 years at the Goldstone, Priestfield and Withdean, I am astounded that anyone could view our current situation as anything other than brilliant.
I dont like you already.

There is something of the ex pats about you,

Just another of the clubs free PR zombies, I hope its free

Barberrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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[quote][p][bold]Hazey James[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Question is what help is he going to get? If he gets a budget which is competitive he should do well, but I have to wonder how he will ever get support from jones as he is the clubs man. I wish him well over next 4 weeks where building a squad and trying to hold onto ulloa and Buckley will be the test. This appointment must work , simple as that or the suits need to go.[/p][/quote]Top quality stadium completed, over 20,000 season ticket holders consistently renewing, top quality training ground completed, two playoff finishes back-to-back, quality international signings brought in without breaking the bank and the suits might have to go?... I can only conclude that you have unrealistic expectations. The club is in a fantastic position with the best chairman that anyone could possibly wish for. As a season ticket holder throughout the last 22 years at the Goldstone, Priestfield and Withdean, I am astounded that anyone could view our current situation as anything other than brilliant.[/p][/quote]I dont like you already. There is something of the ex pats about you, Just another of the clubs free PR zombies, I hope its free Barberrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rr ringtone
  • Score: -33

8:39pm Fri 6 Jun 14

tug509 says...

OldGull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
tug509 wrote:
So SH has been shafted already ,NJ is his assistant ...WHY ,i dont believe SH hasn`t got his own lads in mind ,we do not need a parasite like jones for another season ,a brainless no nothing at that ,if this does not prove who is running our Great club ,than nothing will ,forget B&B it`s Dumb & Dumber ,and we are Dumbest for excepting it with a smile ,Sammii welcome nathan naff off .
Don't take gods name is vein lol some on here believe sh wants jones.. Let's pretend.
You 2 are such happy souls.
As I said on a previous post I don't know whether Sami wants NJ or not.
You may find he was quite happy to have a bit of continuity at the club.
Perhaps the players think NJ is a good coach.
You 2 certainly do not know if he is or not, you just choose to dislike him.
Please tell me why you think her is a parasite, I am sure it will be enlightening.
In the meantime I will support SH and NJ because that is what I do.
Gladly OldGull,
I loved NJ`s trickery down the left for us ,i especially remember a fantastic bit of skill ,that was stopped by an opposition manager grabbing the ball while it was still in play . But i also remember being at Yeovil when he feigned an injury to get Joe Anyinsah Red carded ,we were 1-0 up and drew 1-0 after going to 10 men ,if that was not enough ,the parasite came purposely over to the Albion supporters and taunted us with gestures ,you would rather your kids did not see . Then he appears at the Amex like the preverbial long lost brother ,as though nothing has happened ,and should be welcomed with open arms !. Good enough ???.
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: So SH has been shafted already ,NJ is his assistant ...WHY ,i dont believe SH hasn`t got his own lads in mind ,we do not need a parasite like jones for another season ,a brainless no nothing at that ,if this does not prove who is running our Great club ,than nothing will ,forget B&B it`s Dumb & Dumber ,and we are Dumbest for excepting it with a smile ,Sammii welcome nathan naff off .[/p][/quote]Don't take gods name is vein lol some on here believe sh wants jones.. Let's pretend.[/p][/quote]You 2 are such happy souls. As I said on a previous post I don't know whether Sami wants NJ or not. You may find he was quite happy to have a bit of continuity at the club. Perhaps the players think NJ is a good coach. You 2 certainly do not know if he is or not, you just choose to dislike him. Please tell me why you think her is a parasite, I am sure it will be enlightening. In the meantime I will support SH and NJ because that is what I do.[/p][/quote]Gladly OldGull, I loved NJ`s trickery down the left for us ,i especially remember a fantastic bit of skill ,that was stopped by an opposition manager grabbing the ball while it was still in play . But i also remember being at Yeovil when he feigned an injury to get Joe Anyinsah Red carded ,we were 1-0 up and drew 1-0 after going to 10 men ,if that was not enough ,the parasite came purposely over to the Albion supporters and taunted us with gestures ,you would rather your kids did not see . Then he appears at the Amex like the preverbial long lost brother ,as though nothing has happened ,and should be welcomed with open arms !. Good enough ???. tug509
  • Score: -26

8:40pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Ellen Street says...

The retention of Nathan Jones in his current capacity is an issue.You'd expect a new manager to have his own right-hand man.I would have preferred Nathan to have been given a different and less prominent coaching role.The key to successful football management is the central involvement of "The Boss" in every aspect of the club but particularly in coaching and the motivation of players.SH is a big man with a big pedigree.He'll command respect..A very good appointment.
The retention of Nathan Jones in his current capacity is an issue.You'd expect a new manager to have his own right-hand man.I would have preferred Nathan to have been given a different and less prominent coaching role.The key to successful football management is the central involvement of "The Boss" in every aspect of the club but particularly in coaching and the motivation of players.SH is a big man with a big pedigree.He'll command respect..A very good appointment. Ellen Street
  • Score: 0

8:48pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Ripe seagull. says...

OldGull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
tug509 wrote:
So SH has been shafted already ,NJ is his assistant ...WHY ,i dont believe SH hasn`t got his own lads in mind ,we do not need a parasite like jones for another season ,a brainless no nothing at that ,if this does not prove who is running our Great club ,than nothing will ,forget B&B it`s Dumb & Dumber ,and we are Dumbest for excepting it with a smile ,Sammii welcome nathan naff off .
Don't take gods name is vein lol some on here believe sh wants jones.. Let's pretend.
You 2 are such happy souls.
As I said on a previous post I don't know whether Sami wants NJ or not.
You may find he was quite happy to have a bit of continuity at the club.
Perhaps the players think NJ is a good coach.
You 2 certainly do not know if he is or not, you just choose to dislike him.
Please tell me why you think her is a parasite, I am sure it will be enlightening.
In the meantime I will support SH and NJ because that is what I do.
Exactly this!!!
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: So SH has been shafted already ,NJ is his assistant ...WHY ,i dont believe SH hasn`t got his own lads in mind ,we do not need a parasite like jones for another season ,a brainless no nothing at that ,if this does not prove who is running our Great club ,than nothing will ,forget B&B it`s Dumb & Dumber ,and we are Dumbest for excepting it with a smile ,Sammii welcome nathan naff off .[/p][/quote]Don't take gods name is vein lol some on here believe sh wants jones.. Let's pretend.[/p][/quote]You 2 are such happy souls. As I said on a previous post I don't know whether Sami wants NJ or not. You may find he was quite happy to have a bit of continuity at the club. Perhaps the players think NJ is a good coach. You 2 certainly do not know if he is or not, you just choose to dislike him. Please tell me why you think her is a parasite, I am sure it will be enlightening. In the meantime I will support SH and NJ because that is what I do.[/p][/quote]Exactly this!!! Ripe seagull.
  • Score: 5

8:54pm Fri 6 Jun 14

AlfieT says...

Jones is first team coach, not assistant manager, not sure if this makes much difference.
Jones is first team coach, not assistant manager, not sure if this makes much difference. AlfieT
  • Score: -1

8:55pm Fri 6 Jun 14

tug509 says...

afterovid wrote:
Big, big mistake... the only people this appointment suits is Burke and Barber... validating their superfluous positions. Bloom has made serious heirarchical errors appointing these two worthless parasites and reducing the effectiveness and clout that any potential manager wields... hence the exits of Gusset then Garcia and Herpia forthwith.
Got to secure those bonuses ,what incentive does a plonker like burke have to spend money on a player ,when his personal bonus is bigger if he says NO and keeps the money in the bank ?.
[quote][p][bold]afterovid[/bold] wrote: Big, big mistake... the only people this appointment suits is Burke and Barber... validating their superfluous positions. Bloom has made serious heirarchical errors appointing these two worthless parasites and reducing the effectiveness and clout that any potential manager wields... hence the exits of Gusset then Garcia and Herpia forthwith.[/p][/quote]Got to secure those bonuses ,what incentive does a plonker like burke have to spend money on a player ,when his personal bonus is bigger if he says NO and keeps the money in the bank ?. tug509
  • Score: -14

8:57pm Fri 6 Jun 14

OldGull says...

tug509 wrote:
OldGull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
tug509 wrote:
So SH has been shafted already ,NJ is his assistant ...WHY ,i dont believe SH hasn`t got his own lads in mind ,we do not need a parasite like jones for another season ,a brainless no nothing at that ,if this does not prove who is running our Great club ,than nothing will ,forget B&B it`s Dumb & Dumber ,and we are Dumbest for excepting it with a smile ,Sammii welcome nathan naff off .
Don't take gods name is vein lol some on here believe sh wants jones.. Let's pretend.
You 2 are such happy souls.
As I said on a previous post I don't know whether Sami wants NJ or not.
You may find he was quite happy to have a bit of continuity at the club.
Perhaps the players think NJ is a good coach.
You 2 certainly do not know if he is or not, you just choose to dislike him.
Please tell me why you think her is a parasite, I am sure it will be enlightening.
In the meantime I will support SH and NJ because that is what I do.
Gladly OldGull,
I loved NJ`s trickery down the left for us ,i especially remember a fantastic bit of skill ,that was stopped by an opposition manager grabbing the ball while it was still in play . But i also remember being at Yeovil when he feigned an injury to get Joe Anyinsah Red carded ,we were 1-0 up and drew 1-0 after going to 10 men ,if that was not enough ,the parasite came purposely over to the Albion supporters and taunted us with gestures ,you would rather your kids did not see . Then he appears at the Amex like the preverbial long lost brother ,as though nothing has happened ,and should be welcomed with open arms !. Good enough ???.
OK I understand your dislike, I was not there that day so cannot comment.

But I am viewing NJ as a coach, who one can only assume is good at his job and that is why he has been retained.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: So SH has been shafted already ,NJ is his assistant ...WHY ,i dont believe SH hasn`t got his own lads in mind ,we do not need a parasite like jones for another season ,a brainless no nothing at that ,if this does not prove who is running our Great club ,than nothing will ,forget B&B it`s Dumb & Dumber ,and we are Dumbest for excepting it with a smile ,Sammii welcome nathan naff off .[/p][/quote]Don't take gods name is vein lol some on here believe sh wants jones.. Let's pretend.[/p][/quote]You 2 are such happy souls. As I said on a previous post I don't know whether Sami wants NJ or not. You may find he was quite happy to have a bit of continuity at the club. Perhaps the players think NJ is a good coach. You 2 certainly do not know if he is or not, you just choose to dislike him. Please tell me why you think her is a parasite, I am sure it will be enlightening. In the meantime I will support SH and NJ because that is what I do.[/p][/quote]Gladly OldGull, I loved NJ`s trickery down the left for us ,i especially remember a fantastic bit of skill ,that was stopped by an opposition manager grabbing the ball while it was still in play . But i also remember being at Yeovil when he feigned an injury to get Joe Anyinsah Red carded ,we were 1-0 up and drew 1-0 after going to 10 men ,if that was not enough ,the parasite came purposely over to the Albion supporters and taunted us with gestures ,you would rather your kids did not see . Then he appears at the Amex like the preverbial long lost brother ,as though nothing has happened ,and should be welcomed with open arms !. Good enough ???.[/p][/quote]OK I understand your dislike, I was not there that day so cannot comment. But I am viewing NJ as a coach, who one can only assume is good at his job and that is why he has been retained. OldGull
  • Score: 10

9:09pm Fri 6 Jun 14

mikeygit says...

Sorry I do not buy these negative comments. We have to be positive and back our new man--until such time (which i hope does not come) as there are reasons to be negative. We have a new manager who played at the highest level and who has been chosen by our Board to lead OUR club. Now lets all get behind him. I hope the Board will do so and give him a little flexibility as to how he wants his team to look and who he wants to bring in and with that I hope he gets a workable budget. First thing he has to do is retain Ulloa and then build a new team that will be a credit to us and Brighton. Lets cut out all the snipping and negativity. The guy NEEDS all the fans support he can get--we need to get the buzz back into The Amex. Come on guys you know it makes sense---Rodders!!! UTA
Sorry I do not buy these negative comments. We have to be positive and back our new man--until such time (which i hope does not come) as there are reasons to be negative. We have a new manager who played at the highest level and who has been chosen by our Board to lead OUR club. Now lets all get behind him. I hope the Board will do so and give him a little flexibility as to how he wants his team to look and who he wants to bring in and with that I hope he gets a workable budget. First thing he has to do is retain Ulloa and then build a new team that will be a credit to us and Brighton. Lets cut out all the snipping and negativity. The guy NEEDS all the fans support he can get--we need to get the buzz back into The Amex. Come on guys you know it makes sense---Rodders!!! UTA mikeygit
  • Score: 18

9:11pm Fri 6 Jun 14

johnboy144 says...

Ellen Street wrote:
The retention of Nathan Jones in his current capacity is an issue.You'd expect a new manager to have his own right-hand man.I would have preferred Nathan to have been given a different and less prominent coaching role.The key to successful football management is the central involvement of "The Boss" in every aspect of the club but particularly in coaching and the motivation of players.SH is a big man with a big pedigree.He'll command respect..A very good appointment.
It says on the Seagulls website Jones will be a first team coach not assistant. And why on earth are people so preoccupied with Nathan Jones??? It's ridiculous how so many people seem to think themselves qualified to pass comment on someone who they've never seen at work and know nothing about - it's unbelievable. If he wasn't a good coach he wouldn't be here. Period. Get over it. People seem obsessed to look for a scape goat and chose Jonesy. A great servant as a player, has the club and city close to his heart and obviously plenty of coaching attributes. Accept it! Anyway, good luck Sammi, will reserve judgement until Christmas once you've had a chance to make your mark (in hopefully a less injury laden start to the season than Oscar had!).
[quote][p][bold]Ellen Street[/bold] wrote: The retention of Nathan Jones in his current capacity is an issue.You'd expect a new manager to have his own right-hand man.I would have preferred Nathan to have been given a different and less prominent coaching role.The key to successful football management is the central involvement of "The Boss" in every aspect of the club but particularly in coaching and the motivation of players.SH is a big man with a big pedigree.He'll command respect..A very good appointment.[/p][/quote]It says on the Seagulls website Jones will be a first team coach not assistant. And why on earth are people so preoccupied with Nathan Jones??? It's ridiculous how so many people seem to think themselves qualified to pass comment on someone who they've never seen at work and know nothing about - it's unbelievable. If he wasn't a good coach he wouldn't be here. Period. Get over it. People seem obsessed to look for a scape goat and chose Jonesy. A great servant as a player, has the club and city close to his heart and obviously plenty of coaching attributes. Accept it! Anyway, good luck Sammi, will reserve judgement until Christmas once you've had a chance to make your mark (in hopefully a less injury laden start to the season than Oscar had!). johnboy144
  • Score: 23

9:11pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Brightony says...

Sami Hyypia was a great player, won pretty much everything at club level and has shown good managerial potential taking Bayer Leverkusen to 4th in the German league. He's going to have a good command of English, have good contacts here and in Germany and Finland and I think is an exciting appointment. His last team had exactly the same size stadium as we have and I'm sure the expectations there were at least as high as they are here. Our 'suits' have got us to this fantastic position of new stadium, new training facility and two top six finishes with two inspired and daring managerial appointments and I for one have every confidence they've done their homework and we can expect great things from our new manager. Welcome to Brighton Sami - take us up to the Premiership!
Sami Hyypia was a great player, won pretty much everything at club level and has shown good managerial potential taking Bayer Leverkusen to 4th in the German league. He's going to have a good command of English, have good contacts here and in Germany and Finland and I think is an exciting appointment. His last team had exactly the same size stadium as we have and I'm sure the expectations there were at least as high as they are here. Our 'suits' have got us to this fantastic position of new stadium, new training facility and two top six finishes with two inspired and daring managerial appointments and I for one have every confidence they've done their homework and we can expect great things from our new manager. Welcome to Brighton Sami - take us up to the Premiership! Brightony
  • Score: 36

9:12pm Fri 6 Jun 14

pte says...

It's a good appointment for a mid table club which is what Brighton are being run as and will be next season. I wouldn't worry about NJ being assistant manager. The assistant manager's role is whatever the manager decides it should be. Often the assistant manager's role can be one of a gofer: pick up the manager's dry cleaning, take the car to the car wash and fill it up with petrol, get a battery for his watch etc

If Sami gets us to 10th he will have done his career no harm and draw interest elsewhere. If Sherwood and Hughton turned it down as MBTS says then both may now be kicking themselves since they don't know what they might end up with if anything
It's a good appointment for a mid table club which is what Brighton are being run as and will be next season. I wouldn't worry about NJ being assistant manager. The assistant manager's role is whatever the manager decides it should be. Often the assistant manager's role can be one of a gofer: pick up the manager's dry cleaning, take the car to the car wash and fill it up with petrol, get a battery for his watch etc If Sami gets us to 10th he will have done his career no harm and draw interest elsewhere. If Sherwood and Hughton turned it down as MBTS says then both may now be kicking themselves since they don't know what they might end up with if anything pte
  • Score: -11

9:19pm Fri 6 Jun 14

AlfieT says...

Brightony wrote:
Sami Hyypia was a great player, won pretty much everything at club level and has shown good managerial potential taking Bayer Leverkusen to 4th in the German league. He's going to have a good command of English, have good contacts here and in Germany and Finland and I think is an exciting appointment. His last team had exactly the same size stadium as we have and I'm sure the expectations there were at least as high as they are here. Our 'suits' have got us to this fantastic position of new stadium, new training facility and two top six finishes with two inspired and daring managerial appointments and I for one have every confidence they've done their homework and we can expect great things from our new manager. Welcome to Brighton Sami - take us up to the Premiership!
Excellent post, spot on.
[quote][p][bold]Brightony[/bold] wrote: Sami Hyypia was a great player, won pretty much everything at club level and has shown good managerial potential taking Bayer Leverkusen to 4th in the German league. He's going to have a good command of English, have good contacts here and in Germany and Finland and I think is an exciting appointment. His last team had exactly the same size stadium as we have and I'm sure the expectations there were at least as high as they are here. Our 'suits' have got us to this fantastic position of new stadium, new training facility and two top six finishes with two inspired and daring managerial appointments and I for one have every confidence they've done their homework and we can expect great things from our new manager. Welcome to Brighton Sami - take us up to the Premiership![/p][/quote]Excellent post, spot on. AlfieT
  • Score: 12

9:22pm Fri 6 Jun 14

oksouthstander says...

Great News.Go for it Sami. As long as this FIN FINnish's in the Premier with us next season IH..:) TB rules
Great News.Go for it Sami. As long as this FIN FINnish's in the Premier with us next season IH..:) TB rules oksouthstander
  • Score: -6

9:25pm Fri 6 Jun 14

PressBoxTeaBoy says...

Impossible to say or know whether Hyypia will do well or not, because quite simply he's going to be a completely undefined, unknown entity, having never managed in the Championship, or in England come to that, just as Oscar was, and just as Poyet was. In that sense his appointment is a pure punt at "I hope he turns out well". That approach didn't turn out too badly the last two times though !

So to keep this this all in perspective, nobody should be any more concerned at this point than they were when Oscar or Poyet were appointed, but time will tell.

The problem as I see it, if there is a problem at all, is that barking mad Barber blurted it out there 3 weeks ago that we had many high profile, high calibre applicants both here and abroad, and when he did that, the perception was that this would be easy and we could probably pick from many top coaches. The simple fact is that being a high profile or high calibre MANAGER or coach with experience is completely different from just being a high profile or high calibre PERSON within football, who may not necessarily have gained any notoriety as a manager or experience within the league in which he is about to operate. Gary Lineker is a high profile person in the game but would you feel good about employing him as your next manager ?

The fact that Hyypia was a high calibre/profile player some years back bears no relevance to what his managerial skills might be, as is the fact that he played in the Premier Lge He's had a very short spell managing in the Bundesliga that didn't really go well and certainly didn't end well, so his one shot at management is really an unsuccessful one.

And there in lies the frustration that a large portion of fans will perceive. They thought that a proven high profile manager was on his way, and what they got was a high profile x-Premier Lge player.

Personally I pray to god it goes well, none of wants a season languishing in a relegation battle, but truth is, there's no way to know until it happens, but my sense of frustration with the suits grows more every season, mostly because of their higher than mighty attitude, lack of communication with the fans, and the sheer arrogance of Barber.

I'm sure the suits want the club to do well but my fear is that they are slowly alienating themselves and "our" club from what really are the high profile managers out there that "might" have been a sure fire punt.

Would love to know who they interviewed and who they turned down that had previous managerial experience. My best guess is that the suits number priority is finding a yes man.

Good luck Sami, hope the suits don't wear you down. We'll back you all the way, unless we finish lower than 6th of course.
Impossible to say or know whether Hyypia will do well or not, because quite simply he's going to be a completely undefined, unknown entity, having never managed in the Championship, or in England come to that, just as Oscar was, and just as Poyet was. In that sense his appointment is a pure punt at "I hope he turns out well". That approach didn't turn out too badly the last two times though ! So to keep this this all in perspective, nobody should be any more concerned at this point than they were when Oscar or Poyet were appointed, but time will tell. The problem as I see it, if there is a problem at all, is that barking mad Barber blurted it out there 3 weeks ago that we had many high profile, high calibre applicants both here and abroad, and when he did that, the perception was that this would be easy and we could probably pick from many top coaches. The simple fact is that being a high profile or high calibre MANAGER or coach with experience is completely different from just being a high profile or high calibre PERSON within football, who may not necessarily have gained any notoriety as a manager or experience within the league in which he is about to operate. Gary Lineker is a high profile person in the game but would you feel good about employing him as your next manager ? The fact that Hyypia was a high calibre/profile player some years back bears no relevance to what his managerial skills might be, as is the fact that he played in the Premier Lge He's had a very short spell managing in the Bundesliga that didn't really go well and certainly didn't end well, so his one shot at management is really an unsuccessful one. And there in lies the frustration that a large portion of fans will perceive. They thought that a proven high profile manager was on his way, and what they got was a high profile x-Premier Lge player. Personally I pray to god it goes well, none of wants a season languishing in a relegation battle, but truth is, there's no way to know until it happens, but my sense of frustration with the suits grows more every season, mostly because of their higher than mighty attitude, lack of communication with the fans, and the sheer arrogance of Barber. I'm sure the suits want the club to do well but my fear is that they are slowly alienating themselves and "our" club from what really are the high profile managers out there that "might" have been a sure fire punt. Would love to know who they interviewed and who they turned down that had previous managerial experience. My best guess is that the suits number priority is finding a yes man. Good luck Sami, hope the suits don't wear you down. We'll back you all the way, unless we finish lower than 6th of course. PressBoxTeaBoy
  • Score: -5

9:33pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Grendel says...

Relieved that a manager has been named, but feel he is a little inexperienced. Time will tell.
Relieved that a manager has been named, but feel he is a little inexperienced. Time will tell. Grendel
  • Score: -5

9:34pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Theforce says...

I'm really surprised by this appointment. Sounds like a great player, however in management terms, very inexperienced like the last two appointments made. If he's a success, will find a better job and leave, if a disaster Bloom will get some stick! My gut feeling is Bloom's decision making is clouded by Barber who appears to pull all the strings and this appointment is a mistake. For me, if we were serious in heading to the Premiership, we should have appointed a more experienced Manager. Feel a bit deflated if I'm honest and consider we will do a Watford and go mid table at best. Hope I'm wrong and wish us the best of luck, we gonna need it!
I'm really surprised by this appointment. Sounds like a great player, however in management terms, very inexperienced like the last two appointments made. If he's a success, will find a better job and leave, if a disaster Bloom will get some stick! My gut feeling is Bloom's decision making is clouded by Barber who appears to pull all the strings and this appointment is a mistake. For me, if we were serious in heading to the Premiership, we should have appointed a more experienced Manager. Feel a bit deflated if I'm honest and consider we will do a Watford and go mid table at best. Hope I'm wrong and wish us the best of luck, we gonna need it! Theforce
  • Score: -28

9:35pm Fri 6 Jun 14

tez1959 says...

he must be half decent to manage a good german side and play for liverpool maybe he can sweet talk sturridge gerrard and suarez to come and join him at the amex ha ha or maybe pigs might fly if the board had there way theyll probably get players from the likes of ebbsfleet or woking etc ect unknowns or injury prone players from spain no doubt .......... you see if im not right . wish i was there scout id be making ross mccormack from leeds a banker signing to partner ulloa this season super striker suprised he hasnt been snapped up yet. anyone agree???
he must be half decent to manage a good german side and play for liverpool maybe he can sweet talk sturridge gerrard and suarez to come and join him at the amex ha ha or maybe pigs might fly if the board had there way theyll probably get players from the likes of ebbsfleet or woking etc ect unknowns or injury prone players from spain no doubt .......... you see if im not right . wish i was there scout id be making ross mccormack from leeds a banker signing to partner ulloa this season super striker suprised he hasnt been snapped up yet. anyone agree??? tez1959
  • Score: -16

9:36pm Fri 6 Jun 14

rolivan says...

Some of you seem to be hyypiaventilating and a few seem to be saying hyyp hyyp hooray let's just get rid of the hype and look forward to another roller coaster of a season the only difference this season is that there is somewhere truly magnificent for the players to train whatever the weather week in week out.
Some of you seem to be hyypiaventilating and a few seem to be saying hyyp hyyp hooray let's just get rid of the hype and look forward to another roller coaster of a season the only difference this season is that there is somewhere truly magnificent for the players to train whatever the weather week in week out. rolivan
  • Score: 7

9:43pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Withdean-er says...

Let's let Sami Hyppia decide over time if NJ is good enough. I'm sure the Board will listen and acts on his judgements. No need for NJ-haters to suffer raised blood pressure, or melancholia, on this good day for the Albion. A fresh start for the Albion now - many many players, including some with chronic injury/fitness problems have left the club over the last 14 months, freeing up a wages budget for Sami to work with, and the academy/training facility is nearly complete.
Let's let Sami Hyppia decide over time if NJ is good enough. I'm sure the Board will listen and acts on his judgements. No need for NJ-haters to suffer raised blood pressure, or melancholia, on this good day for the Albion. A fresh start for the Albion now - many many players, including some with chronic injury/fitness problems have left the club over the last 14 months, freeing up a wages budget for Sami to work with, and the academy/training facility is nearly complete. Withdean-er
  • Score: 7

9:53pm Fri 6 Jun 14

OldGull says...

AlfieT wrote:
Brightony wrote:
Sami Hyypia was a great player, won pretty much everything at club level and has shown good managerial potential taking Bayer Leverkusen to 4th in the German league. He's going to have a good command of English, have good contacts here and in Germany and Finland and I think is an exciting appointment. His last team had exactly the same size stadium as we have and I'm sure the expectations there were at least as high as they are here. Our 'suits' have got us to this fantastic position of new stadium, new training facility and two top six finishes with two inspired and daring managerial appointments and I for one have every confidence they've done their homework and we can expect great things from our new manager. Welcome to Brighton Sami - take us up to the Premiership!
Excellent post, spot on.
agreed
[quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brightony[/bold] wrote: Sami Hyypia was a great player, won pretty much everything at club level and has shown good managerial potential taking Bayer Leverkusen to 4th in the German league. He's going to have a good command of English, have good contacts here and in Germany and Finland and I think is an exciting appointment. His last team had exactly the same size stadium as we have and I'm sure the expectations there were at least as high as they are here. Our 'suits' have got us to this fantastic position of new stadium, new training facility and two top six finishes with two inspired and daring managerial appointments and I for one have every confidence they've done their homework and we can expect great things from our new manager. Welcome to Brighton Sami - take us up to the Premiership![/p][/quote]Excellent post, spot on.[/p][/quote]agreed OldGull
  • Score: 4

9:56pm Fri 6 Jun 14

fratsomrover says...

An interesting and possibly exciting appointment.
He was a great player and is well respected, so I hope he brings passion and desire and a will to win to the club.
Only doubts really would be why he was sacked by Bayer Leverkusen after appearing to do so well initially.
Also see he was previously with Willem II. Same as Kemi Agustein !!!!
I certainly hope he fares better here than him.
No clean sweep as NJ is retained. I wonder if that was by choice or forced upon him . I'm not convinced NJ has the ability to coach to the standard necessary to get us out of this league, but I suppose him staying will help with the settling in for Sami.
Remains to be seen if Sami has the contacts to attract better players.
Not a dis-similar appointment to that of Solskjaer at Cardiff.
Good ex-player, limited managerial experience !!
Let's hope he does better than Ole Gunner !
An interesting and possibly exciting appointment. He was a great player and is well respected, so I hope he brings passion and desire and a will to win to the club. Only doubts really would be why he was sacked by Bayer Leverkusen after appearing to do so well initially. Also see he was previously with Willem II. Same as Kemi Agustein !!!! I certainly hope he fares better here than him. No clean sweep as NJ is retained. I wonder if that was by choice or forced upon him . I'm not convinced NJ has the ability to coach to the standard necessary to get us out of this league, but I suppose him staying will help with the settling in for Sami. Remains to be seen if Sami has the contacts to attract better players. Not a dis-similar appointment to that of Solskjaer at Cardiff. Good ex-player, limited managerial experience !! Let's hope he does better than Ole Gunner ! fratsomrover
  • Score: -4

9:59pm Fri 6 Jun 14

tug509 says...

johnboy144 wrote:
Ellen Street wrote:
The retention of Nathan Jones in his current capacity is an issue.You'd expect a new manager to have his own right-hand man.I would have preferred Nathan to have been given a different and less prominent coaching role.The key to successful football management is the central involvement of "The Boss" in every aspect of the club but particularly in coaching and the motivation of players.SH is a big man with a big pedigree.He'll command respect..A very good appointment.
It says on the Seagulls website Jones will be a first team coach not assistant. And why on earth are people so preoccupied with Nathan Jones??? It's ridiculous how so many people seem to think themselves qualified to pass comment on someone who they've never seen at work and know nothing about - it's unbelievable. If he wasn't a good coach he wouldn't be here. Period. Get over it. People seem obsessed to look for a scape goat and chose Jonesy. A great servant as a player, has the club and city close to his heart and obviously plenty of coaching attributes. Accept it! Anyway, good luck Sammi, will reserve judgement until Christmas once you've had a chance to make your mark (in hopefully a less injury laden start to the season than Oscar had!).
Unyet amazingly you are qualified to pass comment ,unless you aren`t telling us something ,then you are no more informed than i !. As such my oppinion carries the same weight ,as for jonesy being a scapegoat ,utter rubbish ,there was an immense amount of negativity when he was taken on . What people like you fail to see with people like me ,is we both want the same end product ,but i want to do it with people that respect MY club ,not use it ,leave and take the pi55 at another ,then come back and expect all to be forgotten .
I have as many anecdotes as most on here from gone years ,and they are kept in the mind and held in reverence ,as they should be ,the Wards Beaney`s Lawro`s Foster`s Tug`s Cooke`s Flagstaffe`s ,are our a part of our wonderful history ,and unfortunately and equally ,those who insult the shirt as "jonesy" did ,forgive and forget if you want ,but i gave my all to The Albion nearly 43 years ago ,and it is as the shirt says "It`s Who I Am " ,i will never except back a player who acted against Albion supporter`s as he did EVER . UTA
[quote][p][bold]johnboy144[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ellen Street[/bold] wrote: The retention of Nathan Jones in his current capacity is an issue.You'd expect a new manager to have his own right-hand man.I would have preferred Nathan to have been given a different and less prominent coaching role.The key to successful football management is the central involvement of "The Boss" in every aspect of the club but particularly in coaching and the motivation of players.SH is a big man with a big pedigree.He'll command respect..A very good appointment.[/p][/quote]It says on the Seagulls website Jones will be a first team coach not assistant. And why on earth are people so preoccupied with Nathan Jones??? It's ridiculous how so many people seem to think themselves qualified to pass comment on someone who they've never seen at work and know nothing about - it's unbelievable. If he wasn't a good coach he wouldn't be here. Period. Get over it. People seem obsessed to look for a scape goat and chose Jonesy. A great servant as a player, has the club and city close to his heart and obviously plenty of coaching attributes. Accept it! Anyway, good luck Sammi, will reserve judgement until Christmas once you've had a chance to make your mark (in hopefully a less injury laden start to the season than Oscar had!).[/p][/quote]Unyet amazingly you are qualified to pass comment ,unless you aren`t telling us something ,then you are no more informed than i !. As such my oppinion carries the same weight ,as for jonesy being a scapegoat ,utter rubbish ,there was an immense amount of negativity when he was taken on . What people like you fail to see with people like me ,is we both want the same end product ,but i want to do it with people that respect MY club ,not use it ,leave and take the pi55 at another ,then come back and expect all to be forgotten . I have as many anecdotes as most on here from gone years ,and they are kept in the mind and held in reverence ,as they should be ,the Wards Beaney`s Lawro`s Foster`s Tug`s Cooke`s Flagstaffe`s ,are our a part of our wonderful history ,and unfortunately and equally ,those who insult the shirt as "jonesy" did ,forgive and forget if you want ,but i gave my all to The Albion nearly 43 years ago ,and it is as the shirt says "It`s Who I Am " ,i will never except back a player who acted against Albion supporter`s as he did EVER . UTA tug509
  • Score: -21

10:11pm Fri 6 Jun 14

tug509 says...

Thats ignorance on a new level ,to give a minus without even reading the post .
Thats ignorance on a new level ,to give a minus without even reading the post . tug509
  • Score: -21

10:15pm Fri 6 Jun 14

The unwilling Frenchman says...

Oh Dear another disaster,
I suppose we cant afford a proper experienced Championship manager who has a RELEVANT track record, Chris Hughton too expensive ?
The comments on this site about Nathan Jones are totally out of order.
The Argus should take down/block personal nasty insults , they should have no place on a Football Forum
Oh Dear another disaster, I suppose we cant afford a proper experienced Championship manager who has a RELEVANT track record, Chris Hughton too expensive ? The comments on this site about Nathan Jones are totally out of order. The Argus should take down/block personal nasty insults , they should have no place on a Football Forum The unwilling Frenchman
  • Score: -7

10:17pm Fri 6 Jun 14

OldGull says...

tug509 wrote:
johnboy144 wrote:
Ellen Street wrote:
The retention of Nathan Jones in his current capacity is an issue.You'd expect a new manager to have his own right-hand man.I would have preferred Nathan to have been given a different and less prominent coaching role.The key to successful football management is the central involvement of "The Boss" in every aspect of the club but particularly in coaching and the motivation of players.SH is a big man with a big pedigree.He'll command respect..A very good appointment.
It says on the Seagulls website Jones will be a first team coach not assistant. And why on earth are people so preoccupied with Nathan Jones??? It's ridiculous how so many people seem to think themselves qualified to pass comment on someone who they've never seen at work and know nothing about - it's unbelievable. If he wasn't a good coach he wouldn't be here. Period. Get over it. People seem obsessed to look for a scape goat and chose Jonesy. A great servant as a player, has the club and city close to his heart and obviously plenty of coaching attributes. Accept it! Anyway, good luck Sammi, will reserve judgement until Christmas once you've had a chance to make your mark (in hopefully a less injury laden start to the season than Oscar had!).
Unyet amazingly you are qualified to pass comment ,unless you aren`t telling us something ,then you are no more informed than i !. As such my oppinion carries the same weight ,as for jonesy being a scapegoat ,utter rubbish ,there was an immense amount of negativity when he was taken on . What people like you fail to see with people like me ,is we both want the same end product ,but i want to do it with people that respect MY club ,not use it ,leave and take the pi55 at another ,then come back and expect all to be forgotten .
I have as many anecdotes as most on here from gone years ,and they are kept in the mind and held in reverence ,as they should be ,the Wards Beaney`s Lawro`s Foster`s Tug`s Cooke`s Flagstaffe`s ,are our a part of our wonderful history ,and unfortunately and equally ,those who insult the shirt as "jonesy" did ,forgive and forget if you want ,but i gave my all to The Albion nearly 43 years ago ,and it is as the shirt says "It`s Who I Am " ,i will never except back a player who acted against Albion supporter`s as he did EVER . UTA
I respect your right to feel the way you do about Jones.
Personally I would move on, If he is doing a good job for the Albion then let bygones be bygones.
After all he is hardly a mass murderer
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnboy144[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ellen Street[/bold] wrote: The retention of Nathan Jones in his current capacity is an issue.You'd expect a new manager to have his own right-hand man.I would have preferred Nathan to have been given a different and less prominent coaching role.The key to successful football management is the central involvement of "The Boss" in every aspect of the club but particularly in coaching and the motivation of players.SH is a big man with a big pedigree.He'll command respect..A very good appointment.[/p][/quote]It says on the Seagulls website Jones will be a first team coach not assistant. And why on earth are people so preoccupied with Nathan Jones??? It's ridiculous how so many people seem to think themselves qualified to pass comment on someone who they've never seen at work and know nothing about - it's unbelievable. If he wasn't a good coach he wouldn't be here. Period. Get over it. People seem obsessed to look for a scape goat and chose Jonesy. A great servant as a player, has the club and city close to his heart and obviously plenty of coaching attributes. Accept it! Anyway, good luck Sammi, will reserve judgement until Christmas once you've had a chance to make your mark (in hopefully a less injury laden start to the season than Oscar had!).[/p][/quote]Unyet amazingly you are qualified to pass comment ,unless you aren`t telling us something ,then you are no more informed than i !. As such my oppinion carries the same weight ,as for jonesy being a scapegoat ,utter rubbish ,there was an immense amount of negativity when he was taken on . What people like you fail to see with people like me ,is we both want the same end product ,but i want to do it with people that respect MY club ,not use it ,leave and take the pi55 at another ,then come back and expect all to be forgotten . I have as many anecdotes as most on here from gone years ,and they are kept in the mind and held in reverence ,as they should be ,the Wards Beaney`s Lawro`s Foster`s Tug`s Cooke`s Flagstaffe`s ,are our a part of our wonderful history ,and unfortunately and equally ,those who insult the shirt as "jonesy" did ,forgive and forget if you want ,but i gave my all to The Albion nearly 43 years ago ,and it is as the shirt says "It`s Who I Am " ,i will never except back a player who acted against Albion supporter`s as he did EVER . UTA[/p][/quote]I respect your right to feel the way you do about Jones. Personally I would move on, If he is doing a good job for the Albion then let bygones be bygones. After all he is hardly a mass murderer OldGull
  • Score: 16

10:18pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Sami is an experienced player who has proved his loyalty to Liverpool by staying a long time. More to the point Liverpool wanted him to stay. As a manager his first appointment ended badly but that doesn't mean he's no good and I expect he will have learnt from the experience. This will be to Albion's benefit.
His appointment is a risk, as are all such appointments, but only time will tell.
Is he a Moyes or a Pellegrini?
Having waited what felt like an age for this appointment, I am relieved like everyone else and now looking forward to next season with great hope.
So we can get behind the new man or be negative and make it difficult for him.
I know what I'll be doing and wish Sami the very best of luck.
This is TB's third appointment. His first two were pretty good in my view and I fully expect this one to be even better. UTA
Sami is an experienced player who has proved his loyalty to Liverpool by staying a long time. More to the point Liverpool wanted him to stay. As a manager his first appointment ended badly but that doesn't mean he's no good and I expect he will have learnt from the experience. This will be to Albion's benefit. His appointment is a risk, as are all such appointments, but only time will tell. Is he a Moyes or a Pellegrini? Having waited what felt like an age for this appointment, I am relieved like everyone else and now looking forward to next season with great hope. So we can get behind the new man or be negative and make it difficult for him. I know what I'll be doing and wish Sami the very best of luck. This is TB's third appointment. His first two were pretty good in my view and I fully expect this one to be even better. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 11

10:19pm Fri 6 Jun 14

tug509 says...

tug509 wrote:
Hazey James wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Question is what help is he going to get? If he gets a budget which is competitive he should do well, but I have to wonder how he will ever get support from jones as he is the clubs man.
I wish him well over next 4 weeks where building a squad and trying to hold onto ulloa and Buckley will be the test.
This appointment must work , simple as that or the suits need to go.
Top quality stadium completed, over 20,000 season ticket holders consistently renewing, top quality training ground completed, two playoff finishes back-to-back, quality international signings brought in without breaking the bank and the suits might have to go?... I can only conclude that you have unrealistic expectations.

The club is in a fantastic position with the best chairman that anyone could possibly wish for. As a season ticket holder throughout the last 22 years at the Goldstone, Priestfield and Withdean, I am astounded that anyone could view our current situation as anything other than brilliant.
So you hold jones in esteem !!! :0)
So as not to offend ,it was an innocent joke .

Jones the steam from Ivor the engine .
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hazey James[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Question is what help is he going to get? If he gets a budget which is competitive he should do well, but I have to wonder how he will ever get support from jones as he is the clubs man. I wish him well over next 4 weeks where building a squad and trying to hold onto ulloa and Buckley will be the test. This appointment must work , simple as that or the suits need to go.[/p][/quote]Top quality stadium completed, over 20,000 season ticket holders consistently renewing, top quality training ground completed, two playoff finishes back-to-back, quality international signings brought in without breaking the bank and the suits might have to go?... I can only conclude that you have unrealistic expectations. The club is in a fantastic position with the best chairman that anyone could possibly wish for. As a season ticket holder throughout the last 22 years at the Goldstone, Priestfield and Withdean, I am astounded that anyone could view our current situation as anything other than brilliant.[/p][/quote]So you hold jones in esteem !!! :0)[/p][/quote]So as not to offend ,it was an innocent joke . Jones the steam from Ivor the engine . tug509
  • Score: 0

10:22pm Fri 6 Jun 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

tug509 wrote:
So SH has been shafted already ,NJ is his assistant ...WHY ,i dont believe SH hasn`t got his own lads in mind ,we do not need a parasite like jones for another season ,a brainless no nothing at that ,if this does not prove who is running our Great club ,than nothing will ,forget B&B it`s Dumb & Dumber ,and we are Dumbest for excepting it with a smile ,Sammii welcome nathan naff off .
Although I may choose a different way of saying it - I wholeheartedly agree Tug! I'm saddened that so many can't seem to see through obvious ploys. Firstly how many really top PL/International players make top managers? Very few - they are the exception rather than the rule.

Many Brighton people seem to get dazzled by the so called 'big names' without looking deeper at things. It is now so obvious that the executives are deciding on the coaching assistant and that never works. Unfortunately it seems that they need someone who licks their backsides and almost acts as an informer.

It was obvious that NJ didn't support Oscar - he was always expounding his opinions in press conferences without ever mentioning Oscar - whatever limitations CO had he was so loyal to GP which is why he's in the Premier League with him now.

The Frenchman had more managerial success and experience but insisted on his own assistant and that went against him. I'm also tired of being told that 'Sammi was our first choice' - it's an insult to intelligent supporters. When people are afraid to tell the truth it's because they are in fear.

Let's see if The Argus has the courage to ask the questions of TB as to why his first choice turned us down?
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: So SH has been shafted already ,NJ is his assistant ...WHY ,i dont believe SH hasn`t got his own lads in mind ,we do not need a parasite like jones for another season ,a brainless no nothing at that ,if this does not prove who is running our Great club ,than nothing will ,forget B&B it`s Dumb & Dumber ,and we are Dumbest for excepting it with a smile ,Sammii welcome nathan naff off .[/p][/quote]Although I may choose a different way of saying it - I wholeheartedly agree Tug! I'm saddened that so many can't seem to see through obvious ploys. Firstly how many really top PL/International players make top managers? Very few - they are the exception rather than the rule. Many Brighton people seem to get dazzled by the so called 'big names' without looking deeper at things. It is now so obvious that the executives are deciding on the coaching assistant and that never works. Unfortunately it seems that they need someone who licks their backsides and almost acts as an informer. It was obvious that NJ didn't support Oscar - he was always expounding his opinions in press conferences without ever mentioning Oscar - whatever limitations CO had he was so loyal to GP which is why he's in the Premier League with him now. The Frenchman had more managerial success and experience but insisted on his own assistant and that went against him. I'm also tired of being told that 'Sammi was our first choice' - it's an insult to intelligent supporters. When people are afraid to tell the truth it's because they are in fear. Let's see if The Argus has the courage to ask the questions of TB as to why his first choice turned us down? WisdomSpeaks
  • Score: -7

10:24pm Fri 6 Jun 14

brianw52 says...

tug509 wrote:
So SH has been shafted already ,NJ is his assistant ...WHY ,i dont believe SH hasn`t got his own lads in mind ,we do not need a parasite like jones for another season ,a brainless no nothing at that ,if this does not prove who is running our Great club ,than nothing will ,forget B&B it`s Dumb & Dumber ,and we are Dumbest for excepting it with a smile ,Sammii welcome nathan naff off .
Why do these people moan about Jones? Probably not true supporters, just those who jumped on the Amex bandwagon.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: So SH has been shafted already ,NJ is his assistant ...WHY ,i dont believe SH hasn`t got his own lads in mind ,we do not need a parasite like jones for another season ,a brainless no nothing at that ,if this does not prove who is running our Great club ,than nothing will ,forget B&B it`s Dumb & Dumber ,and we are Dumbest for excepting it with a smile ,Sammii welcome nathan naff off .[/p][/quote]Why do these people moan about Jones? Probably not true supporters, just those who jumped on the Amex bandwagon. brianw52
  • Score: 7

10:26pm Fri 6 Jun 14

tug509 says...

OldGull wrote:
tug509 wrote:
johnboy144 wrote:
Ellen Street wrote:
The retention of Nathan Jones in his current capacity is an issue.You'd expect a new manager to have his own right-hand man.I would have preferred Nathan to have been given a different and less prominent coaching role.The key to successful football management is the central involvement of "The Boss" in every aspect of the club but particularly in coaching and the motivation of players.SH is a big man with a big pedigree.He'll command respect..A very good appointment.
It says on the Seagulls website Jones will be a first team coach not assistant. And why on earth are people so preoccupied with Nathan Jones??? It's ridiculous how so many people seem to think themselves qualified to pass comment on someone who they've never seen at work and know nothing about - it's unbelievable. If he wasn't a good coach he wouldn't be here. Period. Get over it. People seem obsessed to look for a scape goat and chose Jonesy. A great servant as a player, has the club and city close to his heart and obviously plenty of coaching attributes. Accept it! Anyway, good luck Sammi, will reserve judgement until Christmas once you've had a chance to make your mark (in hopefully a less injury laden start to the season than Oscar had!).
Unyet amazingly you are qualified to pass comment ,unless you aren`t telling us something ,then you are no more informed than i !. As such my oppinion carries the same weight ,as for jonesy being a scapegoat ,utter rubbish ,there was an immense amount of negativity when he was taken on . What people like you fail to see with people like me ,is we both want the same end product ,but i want to do it with people that respect MY club ,not use it ,leave and take the pi55 at another ,then come back and expect all to be forgotten .
I have as many anecdotes as most on here from gone years ,and they are kept in the mind and held in reverence ,as they should be ,the Wards Beaney`s Lawro`s Foster`s Tug`s Cooke`s Flagstaffe`s ,are our a part of our wonderful history ,and unfortunately and equally ,those who insult the shirt as "jonesy" did ,forgive and forget if you want ,but i gave my all to The Albion nearly 43 years ago ,and it is as the shirt says "It`s Who I Am " ,i will never except back a player who acted against Albion supporter`s as he did EVER . UTA
I respect your right to feel the way you do about Jones.
Personally I would move on, If he is doing a good job for the Albion then let bygones be bygones.
After all he is hardly a mass murderer
Thanks OldGull ,i will of course give the usual 110% in support of The Albion ,whoever is with us ,but i will definitely add my best and good luck to our new No1 Samii . UTA
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnboy144[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ellen Street[/bold] wrote: The retention of Nathan Jones in his current capacity is an issue.You'd expect a new manager to have his own right-hand man.I would have preferred Nathan to have been given a different and less prominent coaching role.The key to successful football management is the central involvement of "The Boss" in every aspect of the club but particularly in coaching and the motivation of players.SH is a big man with a big pedigree.He'll command respect..A very good appointment.[/p][/quote]It says on the Seagulls website Jones will be a first team coach not assistant. And why on earth are people so preoccupied with Nathan Jones??? It's ridiculous how so many people seem to think themselves qualified to pass comment on someone who they've never seen at work and know nothing about - it's unbelievable. If he wasn't a good coach he wouldn't be here. Period. Get over it. People seem obsessed to look for a scape goat and chose Jonesy. A great servant as a player, has the club and city close to his heart and obviously plenty of coaching attributes. Accept it! Anyway, good luck Sammi, will reserve judgement until Christmas once you've had a chance to make your mark (in hopefully a less injury laden start to the season than Oscar had!).[/p][/quote]Unyet amazingly you are qualified to pass comment ,unless you aren`t telling us something ,then you are no more informed than i !. As such my oppinion carries the same weight ,as for jonesy being a scapegoat ,utter rubbish ,there was an immense amount of negativity when he was taken on . What people like you fail to see with people like me ,is we both want the same end product ,but i want to do it with people that respect MY club ,not use it ,leave and take the pi55 at another ,then come back and expect all to be forgotten . I have as many anecdotes as most on here from gone years ,and they are kept in the mind and held in reverence ,as they should be ,the Wards Beaney`s Lawro`s Foster`s Tug`s Cooke`s Flagstaffe`s ,are our a part of our wonderful history ,and unfortunately and equally ,those who insult the shirt as "jonesy" did ,forgive and forget if you want ,but i gave my all to The Albion nearly 43 years ago ,and it is as the shirt says "It`s Who I Am " ,i will never except back a player who acted against Albion supporter`s as he did EVER . UTA[/p][/quote]I respect your right to feel the way you do about Jones. Personally I would move on, If he is doing a good job for the Albion then let bygones be bygones. After all he is hardly a mass murderer[/p][/quote]Thanks OldGull ,i will of course give the usual 110% in support of The Albion ,whoever is with us ,but i will definitely add my best and good luck to our new No1 Samii . UTA tug509
  • Score: 4

10:28pm Fri 6 Jun 14

mark5 says...

Brightony wrote:
Sami Hyypia was a great player, won pretty much everything at club level and has shown good managerial potential taking Bayer Leverkusen to 4th in the German league. He's going to have a good command of English, have good contacts here and in Germany and Finland and I think is an exciting appointment. His last team had exactly the same size stadium as we have and I'm sure the expectations there were at least as high as they are here. Our 'suits' have got us to this fantastic position of new stadium, new training facility and two top six finishes with two inspired and daring managerial appointments and I for one have every confidence they've done their homework and we can expect great things from our new manager. Welcome to Brighton Sami - take us up to the Premiership!
Totally agree with all you say. Good, well balanced argument. Time to get behind the new manager (and Jones!) and look forward to the the new season. As usual I cannot wait. There is a always something missing on a Saturday afternoon in the Summer..............
...UTA!
[quote][p][bold]Brightony[/bold] wrote: Sami Hyypia was a great player, won pretty much everything at club level and has shown good managerial potential taking Bayer Leverkusen to 4th in the German league. He's going to have a good command of English, have good contacts here and in Germany and Finland and I think is an exciting appointment. His last team had exactly the same size stadium as we have and I'm sure the expectations there were at least as high as they are here. Our 'suits' have got us to this fantastic position of new stadium, new training facility and two top six finishes with two inspired and daring managerial appointments and I for one have every confidence they've done their homework and we can expect great things from our new manager. Welcome to Brighton Sami - take us up to the Premiership![/p][/quote]Totally agree with all you say. Good, well balanced argument. Time to get behind the new manager (and Jones!) and look forward to the the new season. As usual I cannot wait. There is a always something missing on a Saturday afternoon in the Summer.............. ...UTA! mark5
  • Score: 9

10:30pm Fri 6 Jun 14

gordongull says...

Sami Hyypia needs all the support he can get from the Club and fans, as we prepare for what is going to be a particularly testing season in the Championship.
Putting a team together is going to be the first priority, and the funds available for new players are unlikely to be substantial. There will be competition from the Parachute Clubs for any quality players who are out there, not to mention the spending restrictions imposed by Financial Fair Play.
I believe he will be given a target of building a team that is capable of a serious promotion challenge in season 2015-2016. Another 6th place in the meantime would be a welcome bonus.
An encouraging statistic is that Sami was not involved in many draws at Bayer Leverkusen. It would appear that he has done the calculation, and knows that playing not to lose is for losers.
Sami Hyypia needs all the support he can get from the Club and fans, as we prepare for what is going to be a particularly testing season in the Championship. Putting a team together is going to be the first priority, and the funds available for new players are unlikely to be substantial. There will be competition from the Parachute Clubs for any quality players who are out there, not to mention the spending restrictions imposed by Financial Fair Play. I believe he will be given a target of building a team that is capable of a serious promotion challenge in season 2015-2016. Another 6th place in the meantime would be a welcome bonus. An encouraging statistic is that Sami was not involved in many draws at Bayer Leverkusen. It would appear that he has done the calculation, and knows that playing not to lose is for losers. gordongull
  • Score: 3

10:33pm Fri 6 Jun 14

crawleydownseagull says...

Sorry, big mistake, love TB but this is a bad call. Defenders never make managers who play exciting attacking football, no championship experience, will not have the contacts to bring in players, wont attract good players in, i think will loose some of our better players now, hope he proves me wrong, but he wont! So disapointed, can forget about football now til the season, will get behind the lads.... but gutted.
Sorry, big mistake, love TB but this is a bad call. Defenders never make managers who play exciting attacking football, no championship experience, will not have the contacts to bring in players, wont attract good players in, i think will loose some of our better players now, hope he proves me wrong, but he wont! So disapointed, can forget about football now til the season, will get behind the lads.... but gutted. crawleydownseagull
  • Score: -7

10:37pm Fri 6 Jun 14

tug509 says...

brianw52 wrote:
tug509 wrote:
So SH has been shafted already ,NJ is his assistant ...WHY ,i dont believe SH hasn`t got his own lads in mind ,we do not need a parasite like jones for another season ,a brainless no nothing at that ,if this does not prove who is running our Great club ,than nothing will ,forget B&B it`s Dumb & Dumber ,and we are Dumbest for excepting it with a smile ,Sammii welcome nathan naff off .
Why do these people moan about Jones? Probably not true supporters, just those who jumped on the Amex bandwagon.
Unless you were stood in the North Stand at the cherished Goldstone ,every home game from about the 71/72 season ,i suggest you stick it where the monkey sticks it`s nuts !.
[quote][p][bold]brianw52[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: So SH has been shafted already ,NJ is his assistant ...WHY ,i dont believe SH hasn`t got his own lads in mind ,we do not need a parasite like jones for another season ,a brainless no nothing at that ,if this does not prove who is running our Great club ,than nothing will ,forget B&B it`s Dumb & Dumber ,and we are Dumbest for excepting it with a smile ,Sammii welcome nathan naff off .[/p][/quote]Why do these people moan about Jones? Probably not true supporters, just those who jumped on the Amex bandwagon.[/p][/quote]Unless you were stood in the North Stand at the cherished Goldstone ,every home game from about the 71/72 season ,i suggest you stick it where the monkey sticks it`s nuts !. tug509
  • Score: -8

10:43pm Fri 6 Jun 14

tug509 says...

tug509 wrote:
brianw52 wrote:
tug509 wrote:
So SH has been shafted already ,NJ is his assistant ...WHY ,i dont believe SH hasn`t got his own lads in mind ,we do not need a parasite like jones for another season ,a brainless no nothing at that ,if this does not prove who is running our Great club ,than nothing will ,forget B&B it`s Dumb & Dumber ,and we are Dumbest for excepting it with a smile ,Sammii welcome nathan naff off .
Why do these people moan about Jones? Probably not true supporters, just those who jumped on the Amex bandwagon.
Unless you were stood in the North Stand at the cherished Goldstone ,every home game from about the 71/72 season ,i suggest you stick it where the monkey sticks it`s nuts !.
P.S ...****
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brianw52[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: So SH has been shafted already ,NJ is his assistant ...WHY ,i dont believe SH hasn`t got his own lads in mind ,we do not need a parasite like jones for another season ,a brainless no nothing at that ,if this does not prove who is running our Great club ,than nothing will ,forget B&B it`s Dumb & Dumber ,and we are Dumbest for excepting it with a smile ,Sammii welcome nathan naff off .[/p][/quote]Why do these people moan about Jones? Probably not true supporters, just those who jumped on the Amex bandwagon.[/p][/quote]Unless you were stood in the North Stand at the cherished Goldstone ,every home game from about the 71/72 season ,i suggest you stick it where the monkey sticks it`s nuts !.[/p][/quote]P.S ...**** tug509
  • Score: -9

11:04pm Fri 6 Jun 14

pte says...

fratsomrover wrote:
An interesting and possibly exciting appointment.
He was a great player and is well respected, so I hope he brings passion and desire and a will to win to the club.
Only doubts really would be why he was sacked by Bayer Leverkusen after appearing to do so well initially.
Also see he was previously with Willem II. Same as Kemi Agustein !!!!
I certainly hope he fares better here than him.
No clean sweep as NJ is retained. I wonder if that was by choice or forced upon him . I'm not convinced NJ has the ability to coach to the standard necessary to get us out of this league, but I suppose him staying will help with the settling in for Sami.
Remains to be seen if Sami has the contacts to attract better players.
Not a dis-similar appointment to that of Solskjaer at Cardiff.
Good ex-player, limited managerial experience !!
Let's hope he does better than Ole Gunner !
Congratulations on the -5 score. I wouldn't worry about NJ's coaching abilities because since he was "promoted" sideways to assistant manager, they might appoint a new coach that Sami prefers. We shall just have to wait and see
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: An interesting and possibly exciting appointment. He was a great player and is well respected, so I hope he brings passion and desire and a will to win to the club. Only doubts really would be why he was sacked by Bayer Leverkusen after appearing to do so well initially. Also see he was previously with Willem II. Same as Kemi Agustein !!!! I certainly hope he fares better here than him. No clean sweep as NJ is retained. I wonder if that was by choice or forced upon him . I'm not convinced NJ has the ability to coach to the standard necessary to get us out of this league, but I suppose him staying will help with the settling in for Sami. Remains to be seen if Sami has the contacts to attract better players. Not a dis-similar appointment to that of Solskjaer at Cardiff. Good ex-player, limited managerial experience !! Let's hope he does better than Ole Gunner ![/p][/quote]Congratulations on the -5 score. I wouldn't worry about NJ's coaching abilities because since he was "promoted" sideways to assistant manager, they might appoint a new coach that Sami prefers. We shall just have to wait and see pte
  • Score: 2

11:09pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Baldseagull says...

Some of these comments are embarrassing, these posters that claim to know this or that, are the same ones that were moaning about the club keeping us in the dark and leaving us all guessing.
Bullshitters.
Some of these comments are embarrassing, these posters that claim to know this or that, are the same ones that were moaning about the club keeping us in the dark and leaving us all guessing. Bullshitters. Baldseagull
  • Score: 12

11:12pm Fri 6 Jun 14

East of CrawleyDown says...

Let's judge Hyypia with a decent transfer war chest to play with. come the end of October we will know whether this was the right choice or not. As for Nathan Jones, give him a break, he's been a great servant for this club and could probably take the reins on his own if he was asked. People of his qualities are a rare commodity these days.
Let's judge Hyypia with a decent transfer war chest to play with. come the end of October we will know whether this was the right choice or not. As for Nathan Jones, give him a break, he's been a great servant for this club and could probably take the reins on his own if he was asked. People of his qualities are a rare commodity these days. East of CrawleyDown
  • Score: 2

11:12pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Vince says...

Just like Gus Poyet was when he first joined us, Hyypia is an unknown quantity - but unlike Gus he does have managerial experience. Knowing the way Tony Bloom operates, he will have done his homework and asked the right questions. My guess is that Hyypia, within the well-known FFP constraints he will be working under, will nevertheless be an enthusiastic and committed coach/(manager?). I think Tony Bloom will be under no illusion about how unpopular his tight rein over Gus and Oscar was with them and many fans, but he has stuck to his guns, and will continue to do so until his gambling acumen tells him the time is right to really go for the Premiership big time. He will by then hopefully have a manager he can trust to spend funds wisely - and will back him to the hilt to get us up to the top. This may sound like pure speculation, but I think that this will eventually be the case - and will coincide with the advent of several promising youngsters, so that we have the ideal blend of youth and experience.

I await the new season with hope and enthusiasm. Lets show that old Goldstone spirit and get right behind Sam and the team.
Just like Gus Poyet was when he first joined us, Hyypia is an unknown quantity - but unlike Gus he does have managerial experience. Knowing the way Tony Bloom operates, he will have done his homework and asked the right questions. My guess is that Hyypia, within the well-known FFP constraints he will be working under, will nevertheless be an enthusiastic and committed coach/(manager?). I think Tony Bloom will be under no illusion about how unpopular his tight rein over Gus and Oscar was with them and many fans, but he has stuck to his guns, and will continue to do so until his gambling acumen tells him the time is right to really go for the Premiership big time. He will by then hopefully have a manager he can trust to spend funds wisely - and will back him to the hilt to get us up to the top. This may sound like pure speculation, but I think that this will eventually be the case - and will coincide with the advent of several promising youngsters, so that we have the ideal blend of youth and experience. I await the new season with hope and enthusiasm. Lets show that old Goldstone spirit and get right behind Sam and the team. Vince
  • Score: 15

11:16pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Baldseagull says...

crawleydownseagull wrote:
Sorry, big mistake, love TB but this is a bad call. Defenders never make managers who play exciting attacking football, no championship experience, will not have the contacts to bring in players, wont attract good players in, i think will loose some of our better players now, hope he proves me wrong, but he wont! So disapointed, can forget about football now til the season, will get behind the lads.... but gutted.
Sean Dyche?
[quote][p][bold]crawleydownseagull[/bold] wrote: Sorry, big mistake, love TB but this is a bad call. Defenders never make managers who play exciting attacking football, no championship experience, will not have the contacts to bring in players, wont attract good players in, i think will loose some of our better players now, hope he proves me wrong, but he wont! So disapointed, can forget about football now til the season, will get behind the lads.... but gutted.[/p][/quote]Sean Dyche? Baldseagull
  • Score: 2

11:23pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Claude Back says...

OldGull wrote:
tug509 wrote:
OldGull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
tug509 wrote:
So SH has been shafted already ,NJ is his assistant ...WHY ,i dont believe SH hasn`t got his own lads in mind ,we do not need a parasite like jones for another season ,a brainless no nothing at that ,if this does not prove who is running our Great club ,than nothing will ,forget B&B it`s Dumb & Dumber ,and we are Dumbest for excepting it with a smile ,Sammii welcome nathan naff off .
Don't take gods name is vein lol some on here believe sh wants jones.. Let's pretend.
You 2 are such happy souls.
As I said on a previous post I don't know whether Sami wants NJ or not.
You may find he was quite happy to have a bit of continuity at the club.
Perhaps the players think NJ is a good coach.
You 2 certainly do not know if he is or not, you just choose to dislike him.
Please tell me why you think her is a parasite, I am sure it will be enlightening.
In the meantime I will support SH and NJ because that is what I do.
Gladly OldGull,
I loved NJ`s trickery down the left for us ,i especially remember a fantastic bit of skill ,that was stopped by an opposition manager grabbing the ball while it was still in play . But i also remember being at Yeovil when he feigned an injury to get Joe Anyinsah Red carded ,we were 1-0 up and drew 1-0 after going to 10 men ,if that was not enough ,the parasite came purposely over to the Albion supporters and taunted us with gestures ,you would rather your kids did not see . Then he appears at the Amex like the preverbial long lost brother ,as though nothing has happened ,and should be welcomed with open arms !. Good enough ???.
OK I understand your dislike, I was not there that day so cannot comment.

But I am viewing NJ as a coach, who one can only assume is good at his job and that is why he has been retained.
You assume wrongly. Ask some of the players or staff.
Seems to me that only Tug and MBTS really know what goes on in Brighton. Jones will only be here until S.H. gets his own man in.
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: So SH has been shafted already ,NJ is his assistant ...WHY ,i dont believe SH hasn`t got his own lads in mind ,we do not need a parasite like jones for another season ,a brainless no nothing at that ,if this does not prove who is running our Great club ,than nothing will ,forget B&B it`s Dumb & Dumber ,and we are Dumbest for excepting it with a smile ,Sammii welcome nathan naff off .[/p][/quote]Don't take gods name is vein lol some on here believe sh wants jones.. Let's pretend.[/p][/quote]You 2 are such happy souls. As I said on a previous post I don't know whether Sami wants NJ or not. You may find he was quite happy to have a bit of continuity at the club. Perhaps the players think NJ is a good coach. You 2 certainly do not know if he is or not, you just choose to dislike him. Please tell me why you think her is a parasite, I am sure it will be enlightening. In the meantime I will support SH and NJ because that is what I do.[/p][/quote]Gladly OldGull, I loved NJ`s trickery down the left for us ,i especially remember a fantastic bit of skill ,that was stopped by an opposition manager grabbing the ball while it was still in play . But i also remember being at Yeovil when he feigned an injury to get Joe Anyinsah Red carded ,we were 1-0 up and drew 1-0 after going to 10 men ,if that was not enough ,the parasite came purposely over to the Albion supporters and taunted us with gestures ,you would rather your kids did not see . Then he appears at the Amex like the preverbial long lost brother ,as though nothing has happened ,and should be welcomed with open arms !. Good enough ???.[/p][/quote]OK I understand your dislike, I was not there that day so cannot comment. But I am viewing NJ as a coach, who one can only assume is good at his job and that is why he has been retained.[/p][/quote]You assume wrongly. Ask some of the players or staff. Seems to me that only Tug and MBTS really know what goes on in Brighton. Jones will only be here until S.H. gets his own man in. Claude Back
  • Score: -4

11:26pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Claude Back says...

East of CrawleyDown wrote:
Let's judge Hyypia with a decent transfer war chest to play with. come the end of October we will know whether this was the right choice or not. As for Nathan Jones, give him a break, he's been a great servant for this club and could probably take the reins on his own if he was asked. People of his qualities are a rare commodity these days.
Very rare. Most have good qualities. ;-)
[quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: Let's judge Hyypia with a decent transfer war chest to play with. come the end of October we will know whether this was the right choice or not. As for Nathan Jones, give him a break, he's been a great servant for this club and could probably take the reins on his own if he was asked. People of his qualities are a rare commodity these days.[/p][/quote]Very rare. Most have good qualities. ;-) Claude Back
  • Score: 0

11:30pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Claude Back says...

WisdomSpeaks wrote:
tug509 wrote:
So SH has been shafted already ,NJ is his assistant ...WHY ,i dont believe SH hasn`t got his own lads in mind ,we do not need a parasite like jones for another season ,a brainless no nothing at that ,if this does not prove who is running our Great club ,than nothing will ,forget B&B it`s Dumb & Dumber ,and we are Dumbest for excepting it with a smile ,Sammii welcome nathan naff off .
Although I may choose a different way of saying it - I wholeheartedly agree Tug! I'm saddened that so many can't seem to see through obvious ploys. Firstly how many really top PL/International players make top managers? Very few - they are the exception rather than the rule.

Many Brighton people seem to get dazzled by the so called 'big names' without looking deeper at things. It is now so obvious that the executives are deciding on the coaching assistant and that never works. Unfortunately it seems that they need someone who licks their backsides and almost acts as an informer.

It was obvious that NJ didn't support Oscar - he was always expounding his opinions in press conferences without ever mentioning Oscar - whatever limitations CO had he was so loyal to GP which is why he's in the Premier League with him now.

The Frenchman had more managerial success and experience but insisted on his own assistant and that went against him. I'm also tired of being told that 'Sammi was our first choice' - it's an insult to intelligent supporters. When people are afraid to tell the truth it's because they are in fear.

Let's see if The Argus has the courage to ask the questions of TB as to why his first choice turned us down?
Well said.
[quote][p][bold]WisdomSpeaks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: So SH has been shafted already ,NJ is his assistant ...WHY ,i dont believe SH hasn`t got his own lads in mind ,we do not need a parasite like jones for another season ,a brainless no nothing at that ,if this does not prove who is running our Great club ,than nothing will ,forget B&B it`s Dumb & Dumber ,and we are Dumbest for excepting it with a smile ,Sammii welcome nathan naff off .[/p][/quote]Although I may choose a different way of saying it - I wholeheartedly agree Tug! I'm saddened that so many can't seem to see through obvious ploys. Firstly how many really top PL/International players make top managers? Very few - they are the exception rather than the rule. Many Brighton people seem to get dazzled by the so called 'big names' without looking deeper at things. It is now so obvious that the executives are deciding on the coaching assistant and that never works. Unfortunately it seems that they need someone who licks their backsides and almost acts as an informer. It was obvious that NJ didn't support Oscar - he was always expounding his opinions in press conferences without ever mentioning Oscar - whatever limitations CO had he was so loyal to GP which is why he's in the Premier League with him now. The Frenchman had more managerial success and experience but insisted on his own assistant and that went against him. I'm also tired of being told that 'Sammi was our first choice' - it's an insult to intelligent supporters. When people are afraid to tell the truth it's because they are in fear. Let's see if The Argus has the courage to ask the questions of TB as to why his first choice turned us down?[/p][/quote]Well said. Claude Back
  • Score: -4

11:45pm Fri 6 Jun 14

lenward says...

Hazey James wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Question is what help is he going to get? If he gets a budget which is competitive he should do well, but I have to wonder how he will ever get support from jones as he is the clubs man.
I wish him well over next 4 weeks where building a squad and trying to hold onto ulloa and Buckley will be the test.
This appointment must work , simple as that or the suits need to go.
Top quality stadium completed, over 20,000 season ticket holders consistently renewing, top quality training ground completed, two playoff finishes back-to-back, quality international signings brought in without breaking the bank and the suits might have to go?... I can only conclude that you have unrealistic expectations.

The club is in a fantastic position with the best chairman that anyone could possibly wish for. As a season ticket holder throughout the last 22 years at the Goldstone, Priestfield and Withdean, I am astounded that anyone could view our current situation as anything other than brilliant.
At last someone who talks how thing really are, instead of those people who think the suits has they call them are trying to ruin the club.
[quote][p][bold]Hazey James[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Question is what help is he going to get? If he gets a budget which is competitive he should do well, but I have to wonder how he will ever get support from jones as he is the clubs man. I wish him well over next 4 weeks where building a squad and trying to hold onto ulloa and Buckley will be the test. This appointment must work , simple as that or the suits need to go.[/p][/quote]Top quality stadium completed, over 20,000 season ticket holders consistently renewing, top quality training ground completed, two playoff finishes back-to-back, quality international signings brought in without breaking the bank and the suits might have to go?... I can only conclude that you have unrealistic expectations. The club is in a fantastic position with the best chairman that anyone could possibly wish for. As a season ticket holder throughout the last 22 years at the Goldstone, Priestfield and Withdean, I am astounded that anyone could view our current situation as anything other than brilliant.[/p][/quote]At last someone who talks how thing really are, instead of those people who think the suits has they call them are trying to ruin the club. lenward
  • Score: 9

12:12am Sat 7 Jun 14

lenward says...

I would like to point out to those people who are putting nathan Jones down, that the reason Sami Hyypia kept him on is he is the person who can help with the strength and weakness of the players that are already at the club, his knowledge could be valuable to a new manager taking over. Oscar did not have that knowledge, he had to start from scratch.

I would like to take this opportunity to welcome Mr Hyypia to Brighton&Hove Albion, and wish him all the luck in the world.
I would like to point out to those people who are putting nathan Jones down, that the reason Sami Hyypia kept him on is he is the person who can help with the strength and weakness of the players that are already at the club, his knowledge could be valuable to a new manager taking over. Oscar did not have that knowledge, he had to start from scratch. I would like to take this opportunity to welcome Mr Hyypia to Brighton&Hove Albion, and wish him all the luck in the world. lenward
  • Score: 13

12:17am Sat 7 Jun 14

ballantrrae says...

Potentially this is an excellent appointment. When Hyypia's name first appeared just over two weeks ago I sat up and thought 'interesting'.
Of the two candidates that appear to have had second interviews (Hantz was the other) he was my preference. This is because he has only operated at the top level in the game (100 plus caps for Finland, 10 years at Liverpool including a Champions League triumph and Managerial experience at the top of German football securing Champions League qualification) this is a man who could well manage successfully in the Premier League.
Hyypia becoming the Albion Manager just might prove to be a real coup for Tony Bloom and the club. Time will tell. UTA.
Potentially this is an excellent appointment. When Hyypia's name first appeared just over two weeks ago I sat up and thought 'interesting'. Of the two candidates that appear to have had second interviews (Hantz was the other) he was my preference. This is because he has only operated at the top level in the game (100 plus caps for Finland, 10 years at Liverpool including a Champions League triumph and Managerial experience at the top of German football securing Champions League qualification) this is a man who could well manage successfully in the Premier League. Hyypia becoming the Albion Manager just might prove to be a real coup for Tony Bloom and the club. Time will tell. UTA. ballantrrae
  • Score: 9

12:17am Sat 7 Jun 14

Camp Nigel says...

He's very good looking so a good appointment in my opinion.
He's very good looking so a good appointment in my opinion. Camp Nigel
  • Score: 4

12:26am Sat 7 Jun 14

tug509 says...

Baldseagull wrote:
crawleydownseagull wrote:
Sorry, big mistake, love TB but this is a bad call. Defenders never make managers who play exciting attacking football, no championship experience, will not have the contacts to bring in players, wont attract good players in, i think will loose some of our better players now, hope he proves me wrong, but he wont! So disapointed, can forget about football now til the season, will get behind the lads.... but gutted.
Sean Dyche?
Are you taking the rise ,i pointed out he was my choice this time last year ,and got slaughtered ,now you jump in !.
[quote][p][bold]Baldseagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]crawleydownseagull[/bold] wrote: Sorry, big mistake, love TB but this is a bad call. Defenders never make managers who play exciting attacking football, no championship experience, will not have the contacts to bring in players, wont attract good players in, i think will loose some of our better players now, hope he proves me wrong, but he wont! So disapointed, can forget about football now til the season, will get behind the lads.... but gutted.[/p][/quote]Sean Dyche?[/p][/quote]Are you taking the rise ,i pointed out he was my choice this time last year ,and got slaughtered ,now you jump in !. tug509
  • Score: -7

1:34am Sat 7 Jun 14

pte says...

Camp Nigel wrote:
He's very good looking so a good appointment in my opinion.
After his appointment he said: "I have looked at the club from top to bottom and I am very impressed by what I've seen at all levels."
[quote][p][bold]Camp Nigel[/bold] wrote: He's very good looking so a good appointment in my opinion.[/p][/quote]After his appointment he said: "I have looked at the club from top to bottom and I am very impressed by what I've seen at all levels." pte
  • Score: 6

1:35am Sat 7 Jun 14

Cap'n Pugwash says...

WisdomSpeaks wrote:
tug509 wrote:
So SH has been shafted already ,NJ is his assistant ...WHY ,i dont believe SH hasn`t got his own lads in mind ,we do not need a parasite like jones for another season ,a brainless no nothing at that ,if this does not prove who is running our Great club ,than nothing will ,forget B&B it`s Dumb & Dumber ,and we are Dumbest for excepting it with a smile ,Sammii welcome nathan naff off .
Although I may choose a different way of saying it - I wholeheartedly agree Tug! I'm saddened that so many can't seem to see through obvious ploys. Firstly how many really top PL/International players make top managers? Very few - they are the exception rather than the rule.

Many Brighton people seem to get dazzled by the so called 'big names' without looking deeper at things. It is now so obvious that the executives are deciding on the coaching assistant and that never works. Unfortunately it seems that they need someone who licks their backsides and almost acts as an informer.

It was obvious that NJ didn't support Oscar - he was always expounding his opinions in press conferences without ever mentioning Oscar - whatever limitations CO had he was so loyal to GP which is why he's in the Premier League with him now.

The Frenchman had more managerial success and experience but insisted on his own assistant and that went against him. I'm also tired of being told that 'Sammi was our first choice' - it's an insult to intelligent supporters. When people are afraid to tell the truth it's because they are in fear.

Let's see if The Argus has the courage to ask the questions of TB as to why his first choice turned us down?
Why don't you tell us as you are clearly in the know?
[quote][p][bold]WisdomSpeaks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: So SH has been shafted already ,NJ is his assistant ...WHY ,i dont believe SH hasn`t got his own lads in mind ,we do not need a parasite like jones for another season ,a brainless no nothing at that ,if this does not prove who is running our Great club ,than nothing will ,forget B&B it`s Dumb & Dumber ,and we are Dumbest for excepting it with a smile ,Sammii welcome nathan naff off .[/p][/quote]Although I may choose a different way of saying it - I wholeheartedly agree Tug! I'm saddened that so many can't seem to see through obvious ploys. Firstly how many really top PL/International players make top managers? Very few - they are the exception rather than the rule. Many Brighton people seem to get dazzled by the so called 'big names' without looking deeper at things. It is now so obvious that the executives are deciding on the coaching assistant and that never works. Unfortunately it seems that they need someone who licks their backsides and almost acts as an informer. It was obvious that NJ didn't support Oscar - he was always expounding his opinions in press conferences without ever mentioning Oscar - whatever limitations CO had he was so loyal to GP which is why he's in the Premier League with him now. The Frenchman had more managerial success and experience but insisted on his own assistant and that went against him. I'm also tired of being told that 'Sammi was our first choice' - it's an insult to intelligent supporters. When people are afraid to tell the truth it's because they are in fear. Let's see if The Argus has the courage to ask the questions of TB as to why his first choice turned us down?[/p][/quote]Why don't you tell us as you are clearly in the know? Cap'n Pugwash
  • Score: 6

6:41am Sat 7 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs says...

I really don't understand the negativity from some towards the retention of NJ. It's based on a perception that has nothing to do with his true abilities.
Do people really expect the club to retain someone who couldn't do the job or was unpopular with the players? They will know what the players think.
When Gus left, his whole entourage went with him. When OG left, his three main men went too. Each time that happens, you risk destroying any hope of a consistent approach and this way, there is someone in and around the dressing room who isn't playing catch up.
If anyone has turned down the job because Jones was part of the package, then I say 'good.' It shows they were only interested in themselves and their mates, not the club.
And for those who have challenged the club to admit Jones was an enforced part of the package; yep, I'd expect the club to confidently say that he was. It shows a thorough, professional approach.
I really don't understand the negativity from some towards the retention of NJ. It's based on a perception that has nothing to do with his true abilities. Do people really expect the club to retain someone who couldn't do the job or was unpopular with the players? They will know what the players think. When Gus left, his whole entourage went with him. When OG left, his three main men went too. Each time that happens, you risk destroying any hope of a consistent approach and this way, there is someone in and around the dressing room who isn't playing catch up. If anyone has turned down the job because Jones was part of the package, then I say 'good.' It shows they were only interested in themselves and their mates, not the club. And for those who have challenged the club to admit Jones was an enforced part of the package; yep, I'd expect the club to confidently say that he was. It shows a thorough, professional approach. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 9

7:04am Sat 7 Jun 14

Jonathan Mouette says...

Good morning Yug, you must be feeling very lonely, the weight of all those "thumbs down" on your shoulders... and from whom? I, for one, support your posts - I have agreed with the vast majority for quite a while and I have started accumulating the dreaded thumbs down for my pains too. I shall therefore declare myself President of the Tug509 Appreciation Society. Our position on NJ will be vindicated in due course when SH starts to realise what is going on on a daily basis, who is doing what and to whom. Come the end of the January transfer window and we will start to see the same reaction from SH that we saw from GP and from OG, starting with less and less contact with the media as he has to fight endless battles in the corridors of power.

Welcome Sami, sincere wishes of good luck. With fingers firmly crossed I shall always remain a loyal Seagull supporter. Now I'm getting ready to duck...!!!!
Good morning Yug, you must be feeling very lonely, the weight of all those "thumbs down" on your shoulders... and from whom? I, for one, support your posts - I have agreed with the vast majority for quite a while and I have started accumulating the dreaded thumbs down for my pains too. I shall therefore declare myself President of the Tug509 Appreciation Society. Our position on NJ will be vindicated in due course when SH starts to realise what is going on on a daily basis, who is doing what and to whom. Come the end of the January transfer window and we will start to see the same reaction from SH that we saw from GP and from OG, starting with less and less contact with the media as he has to fight endless battles in the corridors of power. Welcome Sami, sincere wishes of good luck. With fingers firmly crossed I shall always remain a loyal Seagull supporter. Now I'm getting ready to duck...!!!! Jonathan Mouette
  • Score: -2

7:14am Sat 7 Jun 14

Gaz the great says...

Come on everyone, let's stop bickering on here & get behind both the team & new manager! As for N Jones he must be doing something right or he'd be gone by now.
Come on everyone, let's stop bickering on here & get behind both the team & new manager! As for N Jones he must be doing something right or he'd be gone by now. Gaz the great
  • Score: 8

9:07am Sat 7 Jun 14

Camp Nigel says...

pte wrote:
Camp Nigel wrote:
He's very good looking so a good appointment in my opinion.
After his appointment he said: "I have looked at the club from top to bottom and I am very impressed by what I've seen at all levels."
Sadly I don't think he would be interested in stooping down to my level. He is very handsome and square jawed though isn't he? A real man, a blonde Adonis. I imagine him as a Viking warrior in a horned helmet, broadsword in both hands, marauding up and down the touchline striking fear into the hearts of his enemies, then forcibly taking me, his prize, back to his encampment to have his wicked way.
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Camp Nigel[/bold] wrote: He's very good looking so a good appointment in my opinion.[/p][/quote]After his appointment he said: "I have looked at the club from top to bottom and I am very impressed by what I've seen at all levels."[/p][/quote]Sadly I don't think he would be interested in stooping down to my level. He is very handsome and square jawed though isn't he? A real man, a blonde Adonis. I imagine him as a Viking warrior in a horned helmet, broadsword in both hands, marauding up and down the touchline striking fear into the hearts of his enemies, then forcibly taking me, his prize, back to his encampment to have his wicked way. Camp Nigel
  • Score: -3

9:45am Sat 7 Jun 14

Jonathan Mouette says...

Gaz the great wrote:
Come on everyone, let's stop bickering on here & get behind both the team & new manager! As for N Jones he must be doing something right or he'd be gone by now.
If the criteria for staying is "doing something right" maybe someone can explain what the DoF and 1st team coach have done so far... To help you count I'm prepared to use most of the fingers on my left hand but I don't think I'll need all of them. UTA...!!!
[quote][p][bold]Gaz the great[/bold] wrote: Come on everyone, let's stop bickering on here & get behind both the team & new manager! As for N Jones he must be doing something right or he'd be gone by now.[/p][/quote]If the criteria for staying is "doing something right" maybe someone can explain what the DoF and 1st team coach have done so far... To help you count I'm prepared to use most of the fingers on my left hand but I don't think I'll need all of them. UTA...!!! Jonathan Mouette
  • Score: -5

11:24am Sat 7 Jun 14

tug509 says...

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Good morning Yug, you must be feeling very lonely, the weight of all those "thumbs down" on your shoulders... and from whom? I, for one, support your posts - I have agreed with the vast majority for quite a while and I have started accumulating the dreaded thumbs down for my pains too. I shall therefore declare myself President of the Tug509 Appreciation Society. Our position on NJ will be vindicated in due course when SH starts to realise what is going on on a daily basis, who is doing what and to whom. Come the end of the January transfer window and we will start to see the same reaction from SH that we saw from GP and from OG, starting with less and less contact with the media as he has to fight endless battles in the corridors of power.

Welcome Sami, sincere wishes of good luck. With fingers firmly crossed I shall always remain a loyal Seagull supporter. Now I'm getting ready to duck...!!!!
Thank you JM ,yep i was feeling about as welcome as a hedgehog in a condom factory ,but your kind words have cheered me right up ,it`s sad to say but i do think we will see problems with NJ ,but then again i dont think SH will take any rubbish ,oh well we`ll find out soon enough as you say ,thanks again Mr President ,have a good one . UTA
[quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: Good morning Yug, you must be feeling very lonely, the weight of all those "thumbs down" on your shoulders... and from whom? I, for one, support your posts - I have agreed with the vast majority for quite a while and I have started accumulating the dreaded thumbs down for my pains too. I shall therefore declare myself President of the Tug509 Appreciation Society. Our position on NJ will be vindicated in due course when SH starts to realise what is going on on a daily basis, who is doing what and to whom. Come the end of the January transfer window and we will start to see the same reaction from SH that we saw from GP and from OG, starting with less and less contact with the media as he has to fight endless battles in the corridors of power. Welcome Sami, sincere wishes of good luck. With fingers firmly crossed I shall always remain a loyal Seagull supporter. Now I'm getting ready to duck...!!!![/p][/quote]Thank you JM ,yep i was feeling about as welcome as a hedgehog in a condom factory ,but your kind words have cheered me right up ,it`s sad to say but i do think we will see problems with NJ ,but then again i dont think SH will take any rubbish ,oh well we`ll find out soon enough as you say ,thanks again Mr President ,have a good one . UTA tug509
  • Score: -1

11:35am Sat 7 Jun 14

pte says...

Camp Nigel wrote:
pte wrote:
Camp Nigel wrote:
He's very good looking so a good appointment in my opinion.
After his appointment he said: "I have looked at the club from top to bottom and I am very impressed by what I've seen at all levels."
Sadly I don't think he would be interested in stooping down to my level. He is very handsome and square jawed though isn't he? A real man, a blonde Adonis. I imagine him as a Viking warrior in a horned helmet, broadsword in both hands, marauding up and down the touchline striking fear into the hearts of his enemies, then forcibly taking me, his prize, back to his encampment to have his wicked way.
Get a job as the club's tea lady and you never know your luck
[quote][p][bold]Camp Nigel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Camp Nigel[/bold] wrote: He's very good looking so a good appointment in my opinion.[/p][/quote]After his appointment he said: "I have looked at the club from top to bottom and I am very impressed by what I've seen at all levels."[/p][/quote]Sadly I don't think he would be interested in stooping down to my level. He is very handsome and square jawed though isn't he? A real man, a blonde Adonis. I imagine him as a Viking warrior in a horned helmet, broadsword in both hands, marauding up and down the touchline striking fear into the hearts of his enemies, then forcibly taking me, his prize, back to his encampment to have his wicked way.[/p][/quote]Get a job as the club's tea lady and you never know your luck pte
  • Score: 2

12:46pm Sat 7 Jun 14

2ndCitySeagull says...

PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:
Impossible to say or know whether Hyypia will do well or not, because quite simply he's going to be a completely undefined, unknown entity, having never managed in the Championship, or in England come to that, just as Oscar was, and just as Poyet was. In that sense his appointment is a pure punt at "I hope he turns out well". That approach didn't turn out too badly the last two times though !

So to keep this this all in perspective, nobody should be any more concerned at this point than they were when Oscar or Poyet were appointed, but time will tell.

The problem as I see it, if there is a problem at all, is that barking mad Barber blurted it out there 3 weeks ago that we had many high profile, high calibre applicants both here and abroad, and when he did that, the perception was that this would be easy and we could probably pick from many top coaches. The simple fact is that being a high profile or high calibre MANAGER or coach with experience is completely different from just being a high profile or high calibre PERSON within football, who may not necessarily have gained any notoriety as a manager or experience within the league in which he is about to operate. Gary Lineker is a high profile person in the game but would you feel good about employing him as your next manager ?

The fact that Hyypia was a high calibre/profile player some years back bears no relevance to what his managerial skills might be, as is the fact that he played in the Premier Lge He's had a very short spell managing in the Bundesliga that didn't really go well and certainly didn't end well, so his one shot at management is really an unsuccessful one.

And there in lies the frustration that a large portion of fans will perceive. They thought that a proven high profile manager was on his way, and what they got was a high profile x-Premier Lge player.

Personally I pray to god it goes well, none of wants a season languishing in a relegation battle, but truth is, there's no way to know until it happens, but my sense of frustration with the suits grows more every season, mostly because of their higher than mighty attitude, lack of communication with the fans, and the sheer arrogance of Barber.

I'm sure the suits want the club to do well but my fear is that they are slowly alienating themselves and "our" club from what really are the high profile managers out there that "might" have been a sure fire punt.

Would love to know who they interviewed and who they turned down that had previous managerial experience. My best guess is that the suits number priority is finding a yes man.

Good luck Sami, hope the suits don't wear you down. We'll back you all the way, unless we finish lower than 6th of course.
Hyypia's recent coaching/management skills in top flight games is ranked 35th in the world currently, compared to Sherwood 87th, Houghton 219th, Hantz 235th, Mackay 412th and Clarke 446th.

Looks like the suits have hired a results man to me whose peers are Brendan Rodgers 28th and Roberto Martinez 33rd.

I agree 6th in the Championship is the benchmark, following Garcia's success in his first season in the second tier of English football, but to be fair finishing no lower than tenth on our player's budget will be fair enough.
[quote][p][bold]PressBoxTeaBoy[/bold] wrote: Impossible to say or know whether Hyypia will do well or not, because quite simply he's going to be a completely undefined, unknown entity, having never managed in the Championship, or in England come to that, just as Oscar was, and just as Poyet was. In that sense his appointment is a pure punt at "I hope he turns out well". That approach didn't turn out too badly the last two times though ! So to keep this this all in perspective, nobody should be any more concerned at this point than they were when Oscar or Poyet were appointed, but time will tell. The problem as I see it, if there is a problem at all, is that barking mad Barber blurted it out there 3 weeks ago that we had many high profile, high calibre applicants both here and abroad, and when he did that, the perception was that this would be easy and we could probably pick from many top coaches. The simple fact is that being a high profile or high calibre MANAGER or coach with experience is completely different from just being a high profile or high calibre PERSON within football, who may not necessarily have gained any notoriety as a manager or experience within the league in which he is about to operate. Gary Lineker is a high profile person in the game but would you feel good about employing him as your next manager ? The fact that Hyypia was a high calibre/profile player some years back bears no relevance to what his managerial skills might be, as is the fact that he played in the Premier Lge He's had a very short spell managing in the Bundesliga that didn't really go well and certainly didn't end well, so his one shot at management is really an unsuccessful one. And there in lies the frustration that a large portion of fans will perceive. They thought that a proven high profile manager was on his way, and what they got was a high profile x-Premier Lge player. Personally I pray to god it goes well, none of wants a season languishing in a relegation battle, but truth is, there's no way to know until it happens, but my sense of frustration with the suits grows more every season, mostly because of their higher than mighty attitude, lack of communication with the fans, and the sheer arrogance of Barber. I'm sure the suits want the club to do well but my fear is that they are slowly alienating themselves and "our" club from what really are the high profile managers out there that "might" have been a sure fire punt. Would love to know who they interviewed and who they turned down that had previous managerial experience. My best guess is that the suits number priority is finding a yes man. Good luck Sami, hope the suits don't wear you down. We'll back you all the way, unless we finish lower than 6th of course.[/p][/quote]Hyypia's recent coaching/management skills in top flight games is ranked 35th in the world currently, compared to Sherwood 87th, Houghton 219th, Hantz 235th, Mackay 412th and Clarke 446th. Looks like the suits have hired a results man to me whose peers are Brendan Rodgers 28th and Roberto Martinez 33rd. I agree 6th in the Championship is the benchmark, following Garcia's success in his first season in the second tier of English football, but to be fair finishing no lower than tenth on our player's budget will be fair enough. 2ndCitySeagull
  • Score: 7

2:34pm Sat 7 Jun 14

dave from bexill says...

Baldseagull wrote:
Some of these comments are embarrassing, these posters that claim to know this or that, are the same ones that were moaning about the club keeping us in the dark and leaving us all guessing.
Bullshitters.
well said
[quote][p][bold]Baldseagull[/bold] wrote: Some of these comments are embarrassing, these posters that claim to know this or that, are the same ones that were moaning about the club keeping us in the dark and leaving us all guessing. Bullshitters.[/p][/quote]well said dave from bexill
  • Score: 3

2:45pm Sat 7 Jun 14

dave from bexill says...

Tug, I do worry about your blood pressure sometimes
Tug, I do worry about your blood pressure sometimes dave from bexill
  • Score: 2

3:02pm Sat 7 Jun 14

Bha1901ch says...

So do we start rebuilding the team this week or is that going left to Burke and Barber yet again, if so we will be looking for yet another manager next May.
Why is it Nathan Jones comes up smelling of Roses again. Lets clear the crap and be a team of mass destruction 2014/15 season !!!
So do we start rebuilding the team this week or is that going left to Burke and Barber yet again, if so we will be looking for yet another manager next May. Why is it Nathan Jones comes up smelling of Roses again. Lets clear the crap and be a team of mass destruction 2014/15 season !!! Bha1901ch
  • Score: -3

5:30pm Sat 7 Jun 14

truckmate says...

Hazey James wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Question is what help is he going to get? If he gets a budget which is competitive he should do well, but I have to wonder how he will ever get support from jones as he is the clubs man.
I wish him well over next 4 weeks where building a squad and trying to hold onto ulloa and Buckley will be the test.
This appointment must work , simple as that or the suits need to go.
Top quality stadium completed, over 20,000 season ticket holders consistently renewing, top quality training ground completed, two playoff finishes back-to-back, quality international signings brought in without breaking the bank and the suits might have to go?... I can only conclude that you have unrealistic expectations.

The club is in a fantastic position with the best chairman that anyone could possibly wish for. As a season ticket holder throughout the last 22 years at the Goldstone, Priestfield and Withdean, I am astounded that anyone could view our current situation as anything other than brilliant.
Well you have to remember,there are many more supporters now with the new stadium,and a lot off them come with a sense of disillusioned ideals,so they cant understand why reality does not match these ideals.
[quote][p][bold]Hazey James[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Question is what help is he going to get? If he gets a budget which is competitive he should do well, but I have to wonder how he will ever get support from jones as he is the clubs man. I wish him well over next 4 weeks where building a squad and trying to hold onto ulloa and Buckley will be the test. This appointment must work , simple as that or the suits need to go.[/p][/quote]Top quality stadium completed, over 20,000 season ticket holders consistently renewing, top quality training ground completed, two playoff finishes back-to-back, quality international signings brought in without breaking the bank and the suits might have to go?... I can only conclude that you have unrealistic expectations. The club is in a fantastic position with the best chairman that anyone could possibly wish for. As a season ticket holder throughout the last 22 years at the Goldstone, Priestfield and Withdean, I am astounded that anyone could view our current situation as anything other than brilliant.[/p][/quote]Well you have to remember,there are many more supporters now with the new stadium,and a lot off them come with a sense of disillusioned ideals,so they cant understand why reality does not match these ideals. truckmate
  • Score: 0

5:34pm Sat 7 Jun 14

truckmate says...

Hazey James wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Question is what help is he going to get? If he gets a budget which is competitive he should do well, but I have to wonder how he will ever get support from jones as he is the clubs man.
I wish him well over next 4 weeks where building a squad and trying to hold onto ulloa and Buckley will be the test.
This appointment must work , simple as that or the suits need to go.
Top quality stadium completed, over 20,000 season ticket holders consistently renewing, top quality training ground completed, two playoff finishes back-to-back, quality international signings brought in without breaking the bank and the suits might have to go?... I can only conclude that you have unrealistic expectations.

The club is in a fantastic position with the best chairman that anyone could possibly wish for. As a season ticket holder throughout the last 22 years at the Goldstone, Priestfield and Withdean, I am astounded that anyone could view our current situation as anything other than brilliant.
Well you have to bear in mind,now with an increased capacity stadium,there are obviously many more supporters than before,who have a sense of disillusioned ideals,and they are disappointed that reality does not match their ideals,rightly or wrongly,this is how they feel.
[quote][p][bold]Hazey James[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Question is what help is he going to get? If he gets a budget which is competitive he should do well, but I have to wonder how he will ever get support from jones as he is the clubs man. I wish him well over next 4 weeks where building a squad and trying to hold onto ulloa and Buckley will be the test. This appointment must work , simple as that or the suits need to go.[/p][/quote]Top quality stadium completed, over 20,000 season ticket holders consistently renewing, top quality training ground completed, two playoff finishes back-to-back, quality international signings brought in without breaking the bank and the suits might have to go?... I can only conclude that you have unrealistic expectations. The club is in a fantastic position with the best chairman that anyone could possibly wish for. As a season ticket holder throughout the last 22 years at the Goldstone, Priestfield and Withdean, I am astounded that anyone could view our current situation as anything other than brilliant.[/p][/quote]Well you have to bear in mind,now with an increased capacity stadium,there are obviously many more supporters than before,who have a sense of disillusioned ideals,and they are disappointed that reality does not match their ideals,rightly or wrongly,this is how they feel. truckmate
  • Score: -1

5:56pm Sat 7 Jun 14

PressBoxTeaBoy says...

2ndCitySeagull wrote:
PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:
Impossible to say or know whether Hyypia will do well or not, because quite simply he's going to be a completely undefined, unknown entity, having never managed in the Championship, or in England come to that, just as Oscar was, and just as Poyet was. In that sense his appointment is a pure punt at "I hope he turns out well". That approach didn't turn out too badly the last two times though !

So to keep this this all in perspective, nobody should be any more concerned at this point than they were when Oscar or Poyet were appointed, but time will tell.

The problem as I see it, if there is a problem at all, is that barking mad Barber blurted it out there 3 weeks ago that we had many high profile, high calibre applicants both here and abroad, and when he did that, the perception was that this would be easy and we could probably pick from many top coaches. The simple fact is that being a high profile or high calibre MANAGER or coach with experience is completely different from just being a high profile or high calibre PERSON within football, who may not necessarily have gained any notoriety as a manager or experience within the league in which he is about to operate. Gary Lineker is a high profile person in the game but would you feel good about employing him as your next manager ?

The fact that Hyypia was a high calibre/profile player some years back bears no relevance to what his managerial skills might be, as is the fact that he played in the Premier Lge He's had a very short spell managing in the Bundesliga that didn't really go well and certainly didn't end well, so his one shot at management is really an unsuccessful one.

And there in lies the frustration that a large portion of fans will perceive. They thought that a proven high profile manager was on his way, and what they got was a high profile x-Premier Lge player.

Personally I pray to god it goes well, none of wants a season languishing in a relegation battle, but truth is, there's no way to know until it happens, but my sense of frustration with the suits grows more every season, mostly because of their higher than mighty attitude, lack of communication with the fans, and the sheer arrogance of Barber.

I'm sure the suits want the club to do well but my fear is that they are slowly alienating themselves and "our" club from what really are the high profile managers out there that "might" have been a sure fire punt.

Would love to know who they interviewed and who they turned down that had previous managerial experience. My best guess is that the suits number priority is finding a yes man.

Good luck Sami, hope the suits don't wear you down. We'll back you all the way, unless we finish lower than 6th of course.
Hyypia's recent coaching/management skills in top flight games is ranked 35th in the world currently, compared to Sherwood 87th, Houghton 219th, Hantz 235th, Mackay 412th and Clarke 446th.

Looks like the suits have hired a results man to me whose peers are Brendan Rodgers 28th and Roberto Martinez 33rd.

I agree 6th in the Championship is the benchmark, following Garcia's success in his first season in the second tier of English football, but to be fair finishing no lower than tenth on our player's budget will be fair enough.
Except Hyypia inherited a decent team shortly before the end of one season as a joint coach, did well initially the following season on his own, but then lost 12 games on the bounce and was sacked because Bayer Lev believed they were going to miss out on Champions Lge qualification.

Now you can quote all the stats you want for his time as a manager, but the reality is, he inherited a top 4 side and basically blew in his first full season in charge.

He was a failure as a manager hence his entire tenure at Bayer Lev was about 17 months, minus the pre-season months, means he actually coached for about 14 months and some of that was only in a shared role.

Now that doesn't mean he wont do well, but my point was, he's not an established high calibre manager, he's a risk, but then so were Poyet and Oscar.

I wish him well, I want him to succeed.
[quote][p][bold]2ndCitySeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PressBoxTeaBoy[/bold] wrote: Impossible to say or know whether Hyypia will do well or not, because quite simply he's going to be a completely undefined, unknown entity, having never managed in the Championship, or in England come to that, just as Oscar was, and just as Poyet was. In that sense his appointment is a pure punt at "I hope he turns out well". That approach didn't turn out too badly the last two times though ! So to keep this this all in perspective, nobody should be any more concerned at this point than they were when Oscar or Poyet were appointed, but time will tell. The problem as I see it, if there is a problem at all, is that barking mad Barber blurted it out there 3 weeks ago that we had many high profile, high calibre applicants both here and abroad, and when he did that, the perception was that this would be easy and we could probably pick from many top coaches. The simple fact is that being a high profile or high calibre MANAGER or coach with experience is completely different from just being a high profile or high calibre PERSON within football, who may not necessarily have gained any notoriety as a manager or experience within the league in which he is about to operate. Gary Lineker is a high profile person in the game but would you feel good about employing him as your next manager ? The fact that Hyypia was a high calibre/profile player some years back bears no relevance to what his managerial skills might be, as is the fact that he played in the Premier Lge He's had a very short spell managing in the Bundesliga that didn't really go well and certainly didn't end well, so his one shot at management is really an unsuccessful one. And there in lies the frustration that a large portion of fans will perceive. They thought that a proven high profile manager was on his way, and what they got was a high profile x-Premier Lge player. Personally I pray to god it goes well, none of wants a season languishing in a relegation battle, but truth is, there's no way to know until it happens, but my sense of frustration with the suits grows more every season, mostly because of their higher than mighty attitude, lack of communication with the fans, and the sheer arrogance of Barber. I'm sure the suits want the club to do well but my fear is that they are slowly alienating themselves and "our" club from what really are the high profile managers out there that "might" have been a sure fire punt. Would love to know who they interviewed and who they turned down that had previous managerial experience. My best guess is that the suits number priority is finding a yes man. Good luck Sami, hope the suits don't wear you down. We'll back you all the way, unless we finish lower than 6th of course.[/p][/quote]Hyypia's recent coaching/management skills in top flight games is ranked 35th in the world currently, compared to Sherwood 87th, Houghton 219th, Hantz 235th, Mackay 412th and Clarke 446th. Looks like the suits have hired a results man to me whose peers are Brendan Rodgers 28th and Roberto Martinez 33rd. I agree 6th in the Championship is the benchmark, following Garcia's success in his first season in the second tier of English football, but to be fair finishing no lower than tenth on our player's budget will be fair enough.[/p][/quote]Except Hyypia inherited a decent team shortly before the end of one season as a joint coach, did well initially the following season on his own, but then lost 12 games on the bounce and was sacked because Bayer Lev believed they were going to miss out on Champions Lge qualification. Now you can quote all the stats you want for his time as a manager, but the reality is, he inherited a top 4 side and basically blew in his first full season in charge. He was a failure as a manager hence his entire tenure at Bayer Lev was about 17 months, minus the pre-season months, means he actually coached for about 14 months and some of that was only in a shared role. Now that doesn't mean he wont do well, but my point was, he's not an established high calibre manager, he's a risk, but then so were Poyet and Oscar. I wish him well, I want him to succeed. PressBoxTeaBoy
  • Score: -3

2:25am Sun 8 Jun 14

Captain Haddock says...

afterovid wrote:
Big, big mistake... the only people this appointment suits is Burke and Barber... validating their superfluous positions. Bloom has made serious heirarchical errors appointing these two worthless parasites and reducing the effectiveness and clout that any potential manager wields... hence the exits of Gusset then Garcia and Herpia forthwith.
I before e except after c, Mr Pedantic!
[quote][p][bold]afterovid[/bold] wrote: Big, big mistake... the only people this appointment suits is Burke and Barber... validating their superfluous positions. Bloom has made serious heirarchical errors appointing these two worthless parasites and reducing the effectiveness and clout that any potential manager wields... hence the exits of Gusset then Garcia and Herpia forthwith.[/p][/quote]I before e except after c, Mr Pedantic! Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

8:46am Sun 8 Jun 14

Captain Haddock says...

PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:
Impossible to say or know whether Hyypia will do well or not, because quite simply he's going to be a completely undefined, unknown entity, having never managed in the Championship, or in England come to that, just as Oscar was, and just as Poyet was. In that sense his appointment is a pure punt at "I hope he turns out well". That approach didn't turn out too badly the last two times though !

So to keep this this all in perspective, nobody should be any more concerned at this point than they were when Oscar or Poyet were appointed, but time will tell.

The problem as I see it, if there is a problem at all, is that barking mad Barber blurted it out there 3 weeks ago that we had many high profile, high calibre applicants both here and abroad, and when he did that, the perception was that this would be easy and we could probably pick from many top coaches. The simple fact is that being a high profile or high calibre MANAGER or coach with experience is completely different from just being a high profile or high calibre PERSON within football, who may not necessarily have gained any notoriety as a manager or experience within the league in which he is about to operate. Gary Lineker is a high profile person in the game but would you feel good about employing him as your next manager ?

The fact that Hyypia was a high calibre/profile player some years back bears no relevance to what his managerial skills might be, as is the fact that he played in the Premier Lge He's had a very short spell managing in the Bundesliga that didn't really go well and certainly didn't end well, so his one shot at management is really an unsuccessful one.

And there in lies the frustration that a large portion of fans will perceive. They thought that a proven high profile manager was on his way, and what they got was a high profile x-Premier Lge player.

Personally I pray to god it goes well, none of wants a season languishing in a relegation battle, but truth is, there's no way to know until it happens, but my sense of frustration with the suits grows more every season, mostly because of their higher than mighty attitude, lack of communication with the fans, and the sheer arrogance of Barber.

I'm sure the suits want the club to do well but my fear is that they are slowly alienating themselves and "our" club from what really are the high profile managers out there that "might" have been a sure fire punt.

Would love to know who they interviewed and who they turned down that had previous managerial experience. My best guess is that the suits number priority is finding a yes man.

Good luck Sami, hope the suits don't wear you down. We'll back you all the way, unless we finish lower than 6th of course.
Well written and I agree with you about Sami, but can't agree about "the suits". What do you want from them i.e Tony Bloom, for they do his bidding, his way?
[quote][p][bold]PressBoxTeaBoy[/bold] wrote: Impossible to say or know whether Hyypia will do well or not, because quite simply he's going to be a completely undefined, unknown entity, having never managed in the Championship, or in England come to that, just as Oscar was, and just as Poyet was. In that sense his appointment is a pure punt at "I hope he turns out well". That approach didn't turn out too badly the last two times though ! So to keep this this all in perspective, nobody should be any more concerned at this point than they were when Oscar or Poyet were appointed, but time will tell. The problem as I see it, if there is a problem at all, is that barking mad Barber blurted it out there 3 weeks ago that we had many high profile, high calibre applicants both here and abroad, and when he did that, the perception was that this would be easy and we could probably pick from many top coaches. The simple fact is that being a high profile or high calibre MANAGER or coach with experience is completely different from just being a high profile or high calibre PERSON within football, who may not necessarily have gained any notoriety as a manager or experience within the league in which he is about to operate. Gary Lineker is a high profile person in the game but would you feel good about employing him as your next manager ? The fact that Hyypia was a high calibre/profile player some years back bears no relevance to what his managerial skills might be, as is the fact that he played in the Premier Lge He's had a very short spell managing in the Bundesliga that didn't really go well and certainly didn't end well, so his one shot at management is really an unsuccessful one. And there in lies the frustration that a large portion of fans will perceive. They thought that a proven high profile manager was on his way, and what they got was a high profile x-Premier Lge player. Personally I pray to god it goes well, none of wants a season languishing in a relegation battle, but truth is, there's no way to know until it happens, but my sense of frustration with the suits grows more every season, mostly because of their higher than mighty attitude, lack of communication with the fans, and the sheer arrogance of Barber. I'm sure the suits want the club to do well but my fear is that they are slowly alienating themselves and "our" club from what really are the high profile managers out there that "might" have been a sure fire punt. Would love to know who they interviewed and who they turned down that had previous managerial experience. My best guess is that the suits number priority is finding a yes man. Good luck Sami, hope the suits don't wear you down. We'll back you all the way, unless we finish lower than 6th of course.[/p][/quote]Well written and I agree with you about Sami, but can't agree about "the suits". What do you want from them i.e Tony Bloom, for they do his bidding, his way? Captain Haddock
  • Score: 2

10:15am Sun 8 Jun 14

brighton bluenose says...

tug509 wrote:
So SH has been shafted already ,NJ is his assistant ...WHY ,i dont believe SH hasn`t got his own lads in mind ,we do not need a parasite like jones for another season ,a brainless no nothing at that ,if this does not prove who is running our Great club ,than nothing will ,forget B&B it`s Dumb & Dumber ,and we are Dumbest for excepting it with a smile ,Sammii welcome nathan naff off .
Whilst I am not Jones greatest fan your previous comments are absolutely shocking! Perhaps you can tell us why he is allegedly such a 'parasite' and a 'no nothing?! I would suggest that you have no real idea of his abilities or of his value to the club and therefore that would mark you down as the same 'no-nothing' that you accuse Jones of being!!
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: So SH has been shafted already ,NJ is his assistant ...WHY ,i dont believe SH hasn`t got his own lads in mind ,we do not need a parasite like jones for another season ,a brainless no nothing at that ,if this does not prove who is running our Great club ,than nothing will ,forget B&B it`s Dumb & Dumber ,and we are Dumbest for excepting it with a smile ,Sammii welcome nathan naff off .[/p][/quote]Whilst I am not Jones greatest fan your previous comments are absolutely shocking! Perhaps you can tell us why he is allegedly such a 'parasite' and a 'no nothing?! I would suggest that you have no real idea of his abilities or of his value to the club and therefore that would mark you down as the same 'no-nothing' that you accuse Jones of being!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 0

10:28am Sun 8 Jun 14

brighton bluenose says...

Brightony wrote:
Sami Hyypia was a great player, won pretty much everything at club level and has shown good managerial potential taking Bayer Leverkusen to 4th in the German league. He's going to have a good command of English, have good contacts here and in Germany and Finland and I think is an exciting appointment. His last team had exactly the same size stadium as we have and I'm sure the expectations there were at least as high as they are here. Our 'suits' have got us to this fantastic position of new stadium, new training facility and two top six finishes with two inspired and daring managerial appointments and I for one have every confidence they've done their homework and we can expect great things from our new manager. Welcome to Brighton Sami - take us up to the Premiership!
But he didn't take Leverkusen to fourth though did he?! He did well in his first season with Lewandowski as JOINT manager but Hyppia was sacked during his first season as sole manager as BLs top four challenge ran out of steam - Lewandowski then took over and drove them on to that 4th CL place!!
[quote][p][bold]Brightony[/bold] wrote: Sami Hyypia was a great player, won pretty much everything at club level and has shown good managerial potential taking Bayer Leverkusen to 4th in the German league. He's going to have a good command of English, have good contacts here and in Germany and Finland and I think is an exciting appointment. His last team had exactly the same size stadium as we have and I'm sure the expectations there were at least as high as they are here. Our 'suits' have got us to this fantastic position of new stadium, new training facility and two top six finishes with two inspired and daring managerial appointments and I for one have every confidence they've done their homework and we can expect great things from our new manager. Welcome to Brighton Sami - take us up to the Premiership![/p][/quote]But he didn't take Leverkusen to fourth though did he?! He did well in his first season with Lewandowski as JOINT manager but Hyppia was sacked during his first season as sole manager as BLs top four challenge ran out of steam - Lewandowski then took over and drove them on to that 4th CL place!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 0

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