Hyypia's Seagulls seeded for Cup

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Albion have been seeded for next week's Capital One Cup first round draw.

The Seagulls, beaten in extra-time by Newport County at the Amex last season, are among 18 Championship and League One clubs seeded in the southern section.

The non-seeds include Crawley and Portsmouth.

The Capital One Cup tie will be Sami Hyypia's second game in charge in the week commencing August 11.

The draw takes place next Tuesday at 10am.

Albion's Championship fixtures will be published on The Argus website the following morning at 9am and in the paper on Thursday June 19.

Hyypia's first match at the helm will be the Championship opener on Saturday August 9.

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11:24am Tue 10 Jun 14

chuckupem says...

I think that would beThursday19th of June unless the Argus has a crystal ball?
I think that would beThursday19th of June unless the Argus has a crystal ball? chuckupem
  • Score: -5

12:50pm Tue 10 Jun 14

heathgate says...

Away to one of the Bristol City for me,..... because thats where i will be.
Away to one of the Bristol City for me,..... because thats where i will be. heathgate
  • Score: -12

2:09pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Grendel says...

This makes no sense. June 12th is this week, not next week.
This makes no sense. June 12th is this week, not next week. Grendel
  • Score: -1

2:13pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Anyone know what this means.
I assume seeding means we'll miss the first round and enter the competition in the second round or am I missing something. UTA
Anyone know what this means. I assume seeding means we'll miss the first round and enter the competition in the second round or am I missing something. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: -1

2:22pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Gaz the great says...

Wild guess here but I am assuming that this will mean we will play a team that we should beat, not unlike the tennis seeding. If anyone finds out for sure I'm sure they will post a comment soon?
Wild guess here but I am assuming that this will mean we will play a team that we should beat, not unlike the tennis seeding. If anyone finds out for sure I'm sure they will post a comment soon? Gaz the great
  • Score: 2

2:26pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
Anyone know what this means.
I assume seeding means we'll miss the first round and enter the competition in the second round or am I missing something. UTA
Just found out.
We won't be drawn against a fellow seed. So we could play Crawley or Portsmouth or any other non seed.
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: Anyone know what this means. I assume seeding means we'll miss the first round and enter the competition in the second round or am I missing something. UTA[/p][/quote]Just found out. We won't be drawn against a fellow seed. So we could play Crawley or Portsmouth or any other non seed. Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 5

3:53pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Oscar's Chin says...

heathgate wrote:
Away to one of the Bristol City for me,..... because thats where i will be.
Self self self with some people! ;0)
[quote][p][bold]heathgate[/bold] wrote: Away to one of the Bristol City for me,..... because thats where i will be.[/p][/quote]Self self self with some people! ;0) Oscar's Chin
  • Score: 3

3:55pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Oscar's Chin says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
Joel'sGrandad wrote:
Anyone know what this means.
I assume seeding means we'll miss the first round and enter the competition in the second round or am I missing something. UTA
Just found out.
We won't be drawn against a fellow seed. So we could play Crawley or Portsmouth or any other non seed.
Let's get Creepy Crawley down to The Amex. Local derby plus the chance to hurl abuse at John "Seagull on your head" Gregory again.
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: Anyone know what this means. I assume seeding means we'll miss the first round and enter the competition in the second round or am I missing something. UTA[/p][/quote]Just found out. We won't be drawn against a fellow seed. So we could play Crawley or Portsmouth or any other non seed.[/p][/quote]Let's get Creepy Crawley down to The Amex. Local derby plus the chance to hurl abuse at John "Seagull on your head" Gregory again. Oscar's Chin
  • Score: 7

4:48pm Tue 10 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

It will be interesting to see how Hyypia approaches our cup matches, both in this competition and the FA Cup. Hoping that we don't fall at the first hurdle of either, might Sami have a cup team and a league team. It's common for us to have an FA Cup team, one where back up players get their chance, but this first match comes early in the season so not sure if Hyypia will know who is back up and who isn't, other than on paper.

I like the idea of having a cup team no matter which cup it is that we are playing. I think it will be good for back up players to be able to look at our fixture list and know they will be on the park. I also don't want to see the likes of CMS get injured, as happened last year, so early. A development lad might see that he has a chance of breaking into the cup team where as he might not stand as much of a chance of breaking into the first team squad, that would have to be a good thing.
It will be interesting to see how Hyypia approaches our cup matches, both in this competition and the FA Cup. Hoping that we don't fall at the first hurdle of either, might Sami have a cup team and a league team. It's common for us to have an FA Cup team, one where back up players get their chance, but this first match comes early in the season so not sure if Hyypia will know who is back up and who isn't, other than on paper. I like the idea of having a cup team no matter which cup it is that we are playing. I think it will be good for back up players to be able to look at our fixture list and know they will be on the park. I also don't want to see the likes of CMS get injured, as happened last year, so early. A development lad might see that he has a chance of breaking into the cup team where as he might not stand as much of a chance of breaking into the first team squad, that would have to be a good thing. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

4:59pm Tue 10 Jun 14

blue-eyed-boy says...

Gaz the great wrote:
Wild guess here but I am assuming that this will mean we will play a team that we should beat, not unlike the tennis seeding. If anyone finds out for sure I'm sure they will post a comment soon?
Newport
[quote][p][bold]Gaz the great[/bold] wrote: Wild guess here but I am assuming that this will mean we will play a team that we should beat, not unlike the tennis seeding. If anyone finds out for sure I'm sure they will post a comment soon?[/p][/quote]Newport blue-eyed-boy
  • Score: 0

5:24pm Tue 10 Jun 14

pjwilk says...

The pitch will be re seeded.
The pitch will be re seeded. pjwilk
  • Score: 1

7:12pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Neville says...

Hi Vegas
At the moment we can barely muster one team let alone two.lol
Hi Vegas At the moment we can barely muster one team let alone two.lol Neville
  • Score: -3

7:46pm Tue 10 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

Neville wrote:
Hi Vegas
At the moment we can barely muster one team let alone two.lol
So true :-)) but do you get where I am coming from, a cup team that is devoid of our more precious talent but which would contain just enough first choice players to make it competitive. Do we really need Leo playing in the early rounds of any cup competition, or others deemed as important to the main goal of this season.
Of course what I am advocating will require us to have a pretty good squad, our back up players should be seen as challengers for a starting place but they would know that the first few rounds of cup competitions would be theirs, and maybe longer.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Hi Vegas At the moment we can barely muster one team let alone two.lol[/p][/quote]So true :-)) but do you get where I am coming from, a cup team that is devoid of our more precious talent but which would contain just enough first choice players to make it competitive. Do we really need Leo playing in the early rounds of any cup competition, or others deemed as important to the main goal of this season. Of course what I am advocating will require us to have a pretty good squad, our back up players should be seen as challengers for a starting place but they would know that the first few rounds of cup competitions would be theirs, and maybe longer. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

7:56pm Tue 10 Jun 14

ringtone says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
It will be interesting to see how Hyypia approaches our cup matches, both in this competition and the FA Cup. Hoping that we don't fall at the first hurdle of either, might Sami have a cup team and a league team. It's common for us to have an FA Cup team, one where back up players get their chance, but this first match comes early in the season so not sure if Hyypia will know who is back up and who isn't, other than on paper.

I like the idea of having a cup team no matter which cup it is that we are playing. I think it will be good for back up players to be able to look at our fixture list and know they will be on the park. I also don't want to see the likes of CMS get injured, as happened last year, so early. A development lad might see that he has a chance of breaking into the cup team where as he might not stand as much of a chance of breaking into the first team squad, that would have to be a good thing.
You have said this before,

CMS did not get injured in this competition.

He was injured in the back end of the previous season and did not play against palace in the play offs.

How many times

FFS Vegas, you tool.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: It will be interesting to see how Hyypia approaches our cup matches, both in this competition and the FA Cup. Hoping that we don't fall at the first hurdle of either, might Sami have a cup team and a league team. It's common for us to have an FA Cup team, one where back up players get their chance, but this first match comes early in the season so not sure if Hyypia will know who is back up and who isn't, other than on paper. I like the idea of having a cup team no matter which cup it is that we are playing. I think it will be good for back up players to be able to look at our fixture list and know they will be on the park. I also don't want to see the likes of CMS get injured, as happened last year, so early. A development lad might see that he has a chance of breaking into the cup team where as he might not stand as much of a chance of breaking into the first team squad, that would have to be a good thing.[/p][/quote]You have said this before, CMS did not get injured in this competition. He was injured in the back end of the previous season and did not play against palace in the play offs. How many times FFS Vegas, you tool. ringtone
  • Score: -1

8:22pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Cockwomble says...

ringtone wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
It will be interesting to see how Hyypia approaches our cup matches, both in this competition and the FA Cup. Hoping that we don't fall at the first hurdle of either, might Sami have a cup team and a league team. It's common for us to have an FA Cup team, one where back up players get their chance, but this first match comes early in the season so not sure if Hyypia will know who is back up and who isn't, other than on paper.

I like the idea of having a cup team no matter which cup it is that we are playing. I think it will be good for back up players to be able to look at our fixture list and know they will be on the park. I also don't want to see the likes of CMS get injured, as happened last year, so early. A development lad might see that he has a chance of breaking into the cup team where as he might not stand as much of a chance of breaking into the first team squad, that would have to be a good thing.
You have said this before,

CMS did not get injured in this competition.

He was injured in the back end of the previous season and did not play against palace in the play offs.

How many times

FFS Vegas, you tool.
as happened last year he said not last season you fool.cockwomble
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: It will be interesting to see how Hyypia approaches our cup matches, both in this competition and the FA Cup. Hoping that we don't fall at the first hurdle of either, might Sami have a cup team and a league team. It's common for us to have an FA Cup team, one where back up players get their chance, but this first match comes early in the season so not sure if Hyypia will know who is back up and who isn't, other than on paper. I like the idea of having a cup team no matter which cup it is that we are playing. I think it will be good for back up players to be able to look at our fixture list and know they will be on the park. I also don't want to see the likes of CMS get injured, as happened last year, so early. A development lad might see that he has a chance of breaking into the cup team where as he might not stand as much of a chance of breaking into the first team squad, that would have to be a good thing.[/p][/quote]You have said this before, CMS did not get injured in this competition. He was injured in the back end of the previous season and did not play against palace in the play offs. How many times FFS Vegas, you tool.[/p][/quote]as happened last year he said not last season you fool.cockwomble Cockwomble
  • Score: 1

8:32pm Tue 10 Jun 14

ringtone says...

Cockwomble wrote:
ringtone wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
It will be interesting to see how Hyypia approaches our cup matches, both in this competition and the FA Cup. Hoping that we don't fall at the first hurdle of either, might Sami have a cup team and a league team. It's common for us to have an FA Cup team, one where back up players get their chance, but this first match comes early in the season so not sure if Hyypia will know who is back up and who isn't, other than on paper.

I like the idea of having a cup team no matter which cup it is that we are playing. I think it will be good for back up players to be able to look at our fixture list and know they will be on the park. I also don't want to see the likes of CMS get injured, as happened last year, so early. A development lad might see that he has a chance of breaking into the cup team where as he might not stand as much of a chance of breaking into the first team squad, that would have to be a good thing.
You have said this before,

CMS did not get injured in this competition.

He was injured in the back end of the previous season and did not play against palace in the play offs.

How many times

FFS Vegas, you tool.
as happened last year he said not last season you fool.cockwomble
When last year?, name the game,he is referiring to?CMS being injured in a cup game, go on name it Arnie.

While you are at it name the scouts at Derby, Hull etc who wont keep your boy off the dole where it belongs?
[quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: It will be interesting to see how Hyypia approaches our cup matches, both in this competition and the FA Cup. Hoping that we don't fall at the first hurdle of either, might Sami have a cup team and a league team. It's common for us to have an FA Cup team, one where back up players get their chance, but this first match comes early in the season so not sure if Hyypia will know who is back up and who isn't, other than on paper. I like the idea of having a cup team no matter which cup it is that we are playing. I think it will be good for back up players to be able to look at our fixture list and know they will be on the park. I also don't want to see the likes of CMS get injured, as happened last year, so early. A development lad might see that he has a chance of breaking into the cup team where as he might not stand as much of a chance of breaking into the first team squad, that would have to be a good thing.[/p][/quote]You have said this before, CMS did not get injured in this competition. He was injured in the back end of the previous season and did not play against palace in the play offs. How many times FFS Vegas, you tool.[/p][/quote]as happened last year he said not last season you fool.cockwomble[/p][/quote]When last year?, name the game,he is referiring to?CMS being injured in a cup game, go on name it Arnie. While you are at it name the scouts at Derby, Hull etc who wont keep your boy off the dole where it belongs? ringtone
  • Score: -1

8:33pm Tue 10 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

Cockwomble wrote:
ringtone wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
It will be interesting to see how Hyypia approaches our cup matches, both in this competition and the FA Cup. Hoping that we don't fall at the first hurdle of either, might Sami have a cup team and a league team. It's common for us to have an FA Cup team, one where back up players get their chance, but this first match comes early in the season so not sure if Hyypia will know who is back up and who isn't, other than on paper.

I like the idea of having a cup team no matter which cup it is that we are playing. I think it will be good for back up players to be able to look at our fixture list and know they will be on the park. I also don't want to see the likes of CMS get injured, as happened last year, so early. A development lad might see that he has a chance of breaking into the cup team where as he might not stand as much of a chance of breaking into the first team squad, that would have to be a good thing.
You have said this before,

CMS did not get injured in this competition.

He was injured in the back end of the previous season and did not play against palace in the play offs.

How many times

FFS Vegas, you tool.
as happened last year he said not last season you fool.cockwomble
I wasn't going to bother correcting the fool, but as you have, yes you are correct, that is what I said.
[quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: It will be interesting to see how Hyypia approaches our cup matches, both in this competition and the FA Cup. Hoping that we don't fall at the first hurdle of either, might Sami have a cup team and a league team. It's common for us to have an FA Cup team, one where back up players get their chance, but this first match comes early in the season so not sure if Hyypia will know who is back up and who isn't, other than on paper. I like the idea of having a cup team no matter which cup it is that we are playing. I think it will be good for back up players to be able to look at our fixture list and know they will be on the park. I also don't want to see the likes of CMS get injured, as happened last year, so early. A development lad might see that he has a chance of breaking into the cup team where as he might not stand as much of a chance of breaking into the first team squad, that would have to be a good thing.[/p][/quote]You have said this before, CMS did not get injured in this competition. He was injured in the back end of the previous season and did not play against palace in the play offs. How many times FFS Vegas, you tool.[/p][/quote]as happened last year he said not last season you fool.cockwomble[/p][/quote]I wasn't going to bother correcting the fool, but as you have, yes you are correct, that is what I said. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

8:44pm Tue 10 Jun 14

ringtone says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Cockwomble wrote:
ringtone wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
It will be interesting to see how Hyypia approaches our cup matches, both in this competition and the FA Cup. Hoping that we don't fall at the first hurdle of either, might Sami have a cup team and a league team. It's common for us to have an FA Cup team, one where back up players get their chance, but this first match comes early in the season so not sure if Hyypia will know who is back up and who isn't, other than on paper.

I like the idea of having a cup team no matter which cup it is that we are playing. I think it will be good for back up players to be able to look at our fixture list and know they will be on the park. I also don't want to see the likes of CMS get injured, as happened last year, so early. A development lad might see that he has a chance of breaking into the cup team where as he might not stand as much of a chance of breaking into the first team squad, that would have to be a good thing.
You have said this before,

CMS did not get injured in this competition.

He was injured in the back end of the previous season and did not play against palace in the play offs.

How many times

FFS Vegas, you tool.
as happened last year he said not last season you fool.cockwomble
I wasn't going to bother correcting the fool, but as you have, yes you are correct, that is what I said.
Mackail-Smith, who came on in the 78th minute against the Tykes, had been on the sidelines since tearing his Achilles tendon against Bristol City in March 2013.

Tell me Vegas/Arnie was this Bristol City game a cup match as referred to by Vegas in his original post.

Cos I think you will find its a championship game, if its not i will never post on this site again.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: It will be interesting to see how Hyypia approaches our cup matches, both in this competition and the FA Cup. Hoping that we don't fall at the first hurdle of either, might Sami have a cup team and a league team. It's common for us to have an FA Cup team, one where back up players get their chance, but this first match comes early in the season so not sure if Hyypia will know who is back up and who isn't, other than on paper. I like the idea of having a cup team no matter which cup it is that we are playing. I think it will be good for back up players to be able to look at our fixture list and know they will be on the park. I also don't want to see the likes of CMS get injured, as happened last year, so early. A development lad might see that he has a chance of breaking into the cup team where as he might not stand as much of a chance of breaking into the first team squad, that would have to be a good thing.[/p][/quote]You have said this before, CMS did not get injured in this competition. He was injured in the back end of the previous season and did not play against palace in the play offs. How many times FFS Vegas, you tool.[/p][/quote]as happened last year he said not last season you fool.cockwomble[/p][/quote]I wasn't going to bother correcting the fool, but as you have, yes you are correct, that is what I said.[/p][/quote]Mackail-Smith, who came on in the 78th minute against the Tykes, had been on the sidelines since tearing his Achilles tendon against Bristol City in March 2013. Tell me Vegas/Arnie was this Bristol City game a cup match as referred to by Vegas in his original post. Cos I think you will find its a championship game, if its not i will never post on this site again. ringtone
  • Score: 1

8:47pm Tue 10 Jun 14

gordongull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Neville wrote:
Hi Vegas
At the moment we can barely muster one team let alone two.lol
So true :-)) but do you get where I am coming from, a cup team that is devoid of our more precious talent but which would contain just enough first choice players to make it competitive. Do we really need Leo playing in the early rounds of any cup competition, or others deemed as important to the main goal of this season.
Of course what I am advocating will require us to have a pretty good squad, our back up players should be seen as challengers for a starting place but they would know that the first few rounds of cup competitions would be theirs, and maybe longer.
We could have been playing in the Europa League next season,Vegas, but Oscar held players back who I believe would have made the difference against Hull.
Are we now in the Premier League because of his caution?
A continued Cup run would probably have derailed the push for the play-offs, but we were some distance short of being good enough for promotion anyway.
If we are playing in a Cup competition, we should be willing to put all our playing resources into getting to the final.
If promotion is the only objective, I would prefer for us not to enter any Cup competitions.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Hi Vegas At the moment we can barely muster one team let alone two.lol[/p][/quote]So true :-)) but do you get where I am coming from, a cup team that is devoid of our more precious talent but which would contain just enough first choice players to make it competitive. Do we really need Leo playing in the early rounds of any cup competition, or others deemed as important to the main goal of this season. Of course what I am advocating will require us to have a pretty good squad, our back up players should be seen as challengers for a starting place but they would know that the first few rounds of cup competitions would be theirs, and maybe longer.[/p][/quote]We could have been playing in the Europa League next season,Vegas, but Oscar held players back who I believe would have made the difference against Hull. Are we now in the Premier League because of his caution? A continued Cup run would probably have derailed the push for the play-offs, but we were some distance short of being good enough for promotion anyway. If we are playing in a Cup competition, we should be willing to put all our playing resources into getting to the final. If promotion is the only objective, I would prefer for us not to enter any Cup competitions. gordongull
  • Score: 1

8:53pm Tue 10 Jun 14

ringtone says...

ringtone wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Cockwomble wrote:
ringtone wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
It will be interesting to see how Hyypia approaches our cup matches, both in this competition and the FA Cup. Hoping that we don't fall at the first hurdle of either, might Sami have a cup team and a league team. It's common for us to have an FA Cup team, one where back up players get their chance, but this first match comes early in the season so not sure if Hyypia will know who is back up and who isn't, other than on paper.

I like the idea of having a cup team no matter which cup it is that we are playing. I think it will be good for back up players to be able to look at our fixture list and know they will be on the park. I also don't want to see the likes of CMS get injured, as happened last year, so early. A development lad might see that he has a chance of breaking into the cup team where as he might not stand as much of a chance of breaking into the first team squad, that would have to be a good thing.
You have said this before,

CMS did not get injured in this competition.

He was injured in the back end of the previous season and did not play against palace in the play offs.

How many times

FFS Vegas, you tool.
as happened last year he said not last season you fool.cockwomble
I wasn't going to bother correcting the fool, but as you have, yes you are correct, that is what I said.
Mackail-Smith, who came on in the 78th minute against the Tykes, had been on the sidelines since tearing his Achilles tendon against Bristol City in March 2013.

Tell me Vegas/Arnie was this Bristol City game a cup match as referred to by Vegas in his original post.

Cos I think you will find its a championship game, if its not i will never post on this site again.
Oops 7 mins and counting waiting for a response from vegas.
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: It will be interesting to see how Hyypia approaches our cup matches, both in this competition and the FA Cup. Hoping that we don't fall at the first hurdle of either, might Sami have a cup team and a league team. It's common for us to have an FA Cup team, one where back up players get their chance, but this first match comes early in the season so not sure if Hyypia will know who is back up and who isn't, other than on paper. I like the idea of having a cup team no matter which cup it is that we are playing. I think it will be good for back up players to be able to look at our fixture list and know they will be on the park. I also don't want to see the likes of CMS get injured, as happened last year, so early. A development lad might see that he has a chance of breaking into the cup team where as he might not stand as much of a chance of breaking into the first team squad, that would have to be a good thing.[/p][/quote]You have said this before, CMS did not get injured in this competition. He was injured in the back end of the previous season and did not play against palace in the play offs. How many times FFS Vegas, you tool.[/p][/quote]as happened last year he said not last season you fool.cockwomble[/p][/quote]I wasn't going to bother correcting the fool, but as you have, yes you are correct, that is what I said.[/p][/quote]Mackail-Smith, who came on in the 78th minute against the Tykes, had been on the sidelines since tearing his Achilles tendon against Bristol City in March 2013. Tell me Vegas/Arnie was this Bristol City game a cup match as referred to by Vegas in his original post. Cos I think you will find its a championship game, if its not i will never post on this site again.[/p][/quote]Oops 7 mins and counting waiting for a response from vegas. ringtone
  • Score: -1

8:57pm Tue 10 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Neville wrote:
Hi Vegas
At the moment we can barely muster one team let alone two.lol
So true :-)) but do you get where I am coming from, a cup team that is devoid of our more precious talent but which would contain just enough first choice players to make it competitive. Do we really need Leo playing in the early rounds of any cup competition, or others deemed as important to the main goal of this season.
Of course what I am advocating will require us to have a pretty good squad, our back up players should be seen as challengers for a starting place but they would know that the first few rounds of cup competitions would be theirs, and maybe longer.
We could have been playing in the Europa League next season,Vegas, but Oscar held players back who I believe would have made the difference against Hull.
Are we now in the Premier League because of his caution?
A continued Cup run would probably have derailed the push for the play-offs, but we were some distance short of being good enough for promotion anyway.
If we are playing in a Cup competition, we should be willing to put all our playing resources into getting to the final.
If promotion is the only objective, I would prefer for us not to enter any Cup competitions.
I wouldn't argue against fielding our strongest team if we had continued success in either cup, I am simply saying that I would prefer to hold back our gems untill that time comes, if it comes.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Hi Vegas At the moment we can barely muster one team let alone two.lol[/p][/quote]So true :-)) but do you get where I am coming from, a cup team that is devoid of our more precious talent but which would contain just enough first choice players to make it competitive. Do we really need Leo playing in the early rounds of any cup competition, or others deemed as important to the main goal of this season. Of course what I am advocating will require us to have a pretty good squad, our back up players should be seen as challengers for a starting place but they would know that the first few rounds of cup competitions would be theirs, and maybe longer.[/p][/quote]We could have been playing in the Europa League next season,Vegas, but Oscar held players back who I believe would have made the difference against Hull. Are we now in the Premier League because of his caution? A continued Cup run would probably have derailed the push for the play-offs, but we were some distance short of being good enough for promotion anyway. If we are playing in a Cup competition, we should be willing to put all our playing resources into getting to the final. If promotion is the only objective, I would prefer for us not to enter any Cup competitions.[/p][/quote]I wouldn't argue against fielding our strongest team if we had continued success in either cup, I am simply saying that I would prefer to hold back our gems untill that time comes, if it comes. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

9:01pm Tue 10 Jun 14

ringtone says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Neville wrote:
Hi Vegas
At the moment we can barely muster one team let alone two.lol
So true :-)) but do you get where I am coming from, a cup team that is devoid of our more precious talent but which would contain just enough first choice players to make it competitive. Do we really need Leo playing in the early rounds of any cup competition, or others deemed as important to the main goal of this season.
Of course what I am advocating will require us to have a pretty good squad, our back up players should be seen as challengers for a starting place but they would know that the first few rounds of cup competitions would be theirs, and maybe longer.
We could have been playing in the Europa League next season,Vegas, but Oscar held players back who I believe would have made the difference against Hull.
Are we now in the Premier League because of his caution?
A continued Cup run would probably have derailed the push for the play-offs, but we were some distance short of being good enough for promotion anyway.
If we are playing in a Cup competition, we should be willing to put all our playing resources into getting to the final.
If promotion is the only objective, I would prefer for us not to enter any Cup competitions.
I wouldn't argue against fielding our strongest team if we had continued success in either cup, I am simply saying that I would prefer to hold back our gems untill that time comes, if it comes.
Bristol city away in the league Vegas is not a cup game, even in america.

Why dont you just have the grace to admit you are wrong??

CMS did not get injured in a cup tie
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Hi Vegas At the moment we can barely muster one team let alone two.lol[/p][/quote]So true :-)) but do you get where I am coming from, a cup team that is devoid of our more precious talent but which would contain just enough first choice players to make it competitive. Do we really need Leo playing in the early rounds of any cup competition, or others deemed as important to the main goal of this season. Of course what I am advocating will require us to have a pretty good squad, our back up players should be seen as challengers for a starting place but they would know that the first few rounds of cup competitions would be theirs, and maybe longer.[/p][/quote]We could have been playing in the Europa League next season,Vegas, but Oscar held players back who I believe would have made the difference against Hull. Are we now in the Premier League because of his caution? A continued Cup run would probably have derailed the push for the play-offs, but we were some distance short of being good enough for promotion anyway. If we are playing in a Cup competition, we should be willing to put all our playing resources into getting to the final. If promotion is the only objective, I would prefer for us not to enter any Cup competitions.[/p][/quote]I wouldn't argue against fielding our strongest team if we had continued success in either cup, I am simply saying that I would prefer to hold back our gems untill that time comes, if it comes.[/p][/quote]Bristol city away in the league Vegas is not a cup game, even in america. Why dont you just have the grace to admit you are wrong?? CMS did not get injured in a cup tie ringtone
  • Score: -1

2:44am Wed 11 Jun 14

Captain Haddock says...

ringtone wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Neville wrote:
Hi Vegas
At the moment we can barely muster one team let alone two.lol
So true :-)) but do you get where I am coming from, a cup team that is devoid of our more precious talent but which would contain just enough first choice players to make it competitive. Do we really need Leo playing in the early rounds of any cup competition, or others deemed as important to the main goal of this season.
Of course what I am advocating will require us to have a pretty good squad, our back up players should be seen as challengers for a starting place but they would know that the first few rounds of cup competitions would be theirs, and maybe longer.
We could have been playing in the Europa League next season,Vegas, but Oscar held players back who I believe would have made the difference against Hull.
Are we now in the Premier League because of his caution?
A continued Cup run would probably have derailed the push for the play-offs, but we were some distance short of being good enough for promotion anyway.
If we are playing in a Cup competition, we should be willing to put all our playing resources into getting to the final.
If promotion is the only objective, I would prefer for us not to enter any Cup competitions.
I wouldn't argue against fielding our strongest team if we had continued success in either cup, I am simply saying that I would prefer to hold back our gems untill that time comes, if it comes.
Bristol city away in the league Vegas is not a cup game, even in america.

Why dont you just have the grace to admit you are wrong??

CMS did not get injured in a cup tie
And why don't you have the grace to retire to a nice quiet cyber spot in the countryside?!!
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Hi Vegas At the moment we can barely muster one team let alone two.lol[/p][/quote]So true :-)) but do you get where I am coming from, a cup team that is devoid of our more precious talent but which would contain just enough first choice players to make it competitive. Do we really need Leo playing in the early rounds of any cup competition, or others deemed as important to the main goal of this season. Of course what I am advocating will require us to have a pretty good squad, our back up players should be seen as challengers for a starting place but they would know that the first few rounds of cup competitions would be theirs, and maybe longer.[/p][/quote]We could have been playing in the Europa League next season,Vegas, but Oscar held players back who I believe would have made the difference against Hull. Are we now in the Premier League because of his caution? A continued Cup run would probably have derailed the push for the play-offs, but we were some distance short of being good enough for promotion anyway. If we are playing in a Cup competition, we should be willing to put all our playing resources into getting to the final. If promotion is the only objective, I would prefer for us not to enter any Cup competitions.[/p][/quote]I wouldn't argue against fielding our strongest team if we had continued success in either cup, I am simply saying that I would prefer to hold back our gems untill that time comes, if it comes.[/p][/quote]Bristol city away in the league Vegas is not a cup game, even in america. Why dont you just have the grace to admit you are wrong?? CMS did not get injured in a cup tie[/p][/quote]And why don't you have the grace to retire to a nice quiet cyber spot in the countryside?!! Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

4:40am Wed 11 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs says...

As someone else has said, there's no explanation of how the seeding works or what the advantages are. Its obvious (I assume) that seeds won't play each other, but how long does seeding last? Who are the Championship non-seeds? Does it matter if we're first seed or 18th? Not very enlightening.
Anyway, when you read it, it's just a series of bullet points. He's not exactly Henry Winter is he?
As someone else has said, there's no explanation of how the seeding works or what the advantages are. Its obvious (I assume) that seeds won't play each other, but how long does seeding last? Who are the Championship non-seeds? Does it matter if we're first seed or 18th? Not very enlightening. Anyway, when you read it, it's just a series of bullet points. He's not exactly Henry Winter is he? Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 2

5:00am Wed 11 Jun 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

ringtone wrote:
ringtone wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Cockwomble wrote:
ringtone wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
It will be interesting to see how Hyypia approaches our cup matches, both in this competition and the FA Cup. Hoping that we don't fall at the first hurdle of either, might Sami have a cup team and a league team. It's common for us to have an FA Cup team, one where back up players get their chance, but this first match comes early in the season so not sure if Hyypia will know who is back up and who isn't, other than on paper.

I like the idea of having a cup team no matter which cup it is that we are playing. I think it will be good for back up players to be able to look at our fixture list and know they will be on the park. I also don't want to see the likes of CMS get injured, as happened last year, so early. A development lad might see that he has a chance of breaking into the cup team where as he might not stand as much of a chance of breaking into the first team squad, that would have to be a good thing.
You have said this before,

CMS did not get injured in this competition.

He was injured in the back end of the previous season and did not play against palace in the play offs.

How many times

FFS Vegas, you tool.
as happened last year he said not last season you fool.cockwomble
I wasn't going to bother correcting the fool, but as you have, yes you are correct, that is what I said.
Mackail-Smith, who came on in the 78th minute against the Tykes, had been on the sidelines since tearing his Achilles tendon against Bristol City in March 2013.

Tell me Vegas/Arnie was this Bristol City game a cup match as referred to by Vegas in his original post.

Cos I think you will find its a championship game, if its not i will never post on this site again.
Oops 7 mins and counting waiting for a response from vegas.
Hey Scrote. You'll find Vegas won't bother answering because if you actually read what he said, he said that CMS was injured, he doesn't actually say that it was in a cup competition. You might find that what he is actually implying is that asking the first team to play the early rounds of cup competitions is just exposing them to unnneccesary risk. Can't say I totally agree with him but you just need to read with a clear mind before making yourself look like a fool.

UTA!!
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: It will be interesting to see how Hyypia approaches our cup matches, both in this competition and the FA Cup. Hoping that we don't fall at the first hurdle of either, might Sami have a cup team and a league team. It's common for us to have an FA Cup team, one where back up players get their chance, but this first match comes early in the season so not sure if Hyypia will know who is back up and who isn't, other than on paper. I like the idea of having a cup team no matter which cup it is that we are playing. I think it will be good for back up players to be able to look at our fixture list and know they will be on the park. I also don't want to see the likes of CMS get injured, as happened last year, so early. A development lad might see that he has a chance of breaking into the cup team where as he might not stand as much of a chance of breaking into the first team squad, that would have to be a good thing.[/p][/quote]You have said this before, CMS did not get injured in this competition. He was injured in the back end of the previous season and did not play against palace in the play offs. How many times FFS Vegas, you tool.[/p][/quote]as happened last year he said not last season you fool.cockwomble[/p][/quote]I wasn't going to bother correcting the fool, but as you have, yes you are correct, that is what I said.[/p][/quote]Mackail-Smith, who came on in the 78th minute against the Tykes, had been on the sidelines since tearing his Achilles tendon against Bristol City in March 2013. Tell me Vegas/Arnie was this Bristol City game a cup match as referred to by Vegas in his original post. Cos I think you will find its a championship game, if its not i will never post on this site again.[/p][/quote]Oops 7 mins and counting waiting for a response from vegas.[/p][/quote]Hey Scrote. You'll find Vegas won't bother answering because if you actually read what he said, he said that CMS was injured, he doesn't actually say that it was in a cup competition. You might find that what he is actually implying is that asking the first team to play the early rounds of cup competitions is just exposing them to unnneccesary risk. Can't say I totally agree with him but you just need to read with a clear mind before making yourself look like a fool. UTA!! Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 4

5:25am Wed 11 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
ringtone wrote:
ringtone wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Cockwomble wrote:
ringtone wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
It will be interesting to see how Hyypia approaches our cup matches, both in this competition and the FA Cup. Hoping that we don't fall at the first hurdle of either, might Sami have a cup team and a league team. It's common for us to have an FA Cup team, one where back up players get their chance, but this first match comes early in the season so not sure if Hyypia will know who is back up and who isn't, other than on paper.

I like the idea of having a cup team no matter which cup it is that we are playing. I think it will be good for back up players to be able to look at our fixture list and know they will be on the park. I also don't want to see the likes of CMS get injured, as happened last year, so early. A development lad might see that he has a chance of breaking into the cup team where as he might not stand as much of a chance of breaking into the first team squad, that would have to be a good thing.
You have said this before,

CMS did not get injured in this competition.

He was injured in the back end of the previous season and did not play against palace in the play offs.

How many times

FFS Vegas, you tool.
as happened last year he said not last season you fool.cockwomble
I wasn't going to bother correcting the fool, but as you have, yes you are correct, that is what I said.
Mackail-Smith, who came on in the 78th minute against the Tykes, had been on the sidelines since tearing his Achilles tendon against Bristol City in March 2013.

Tell me Vegas/Arnie was this Bristol City game a cup match as referred to by Vegas in his original post.

Cos I think you will find its a championship game, if its not i will never post on this site again.
Oops 7 mins and counting waiting for a response from vegas.
Hey Scrote. You'll find Vegas won't bother answering because if you actually read what he said, he said that CMS was injured, he doesn't actually say that it was in a cup competition. You might find that what he is actually implying is that asking the first team to play the early rounds of cup competitions is just exposing them to unnneccesary risk. Can't say I totally agree with him but you just need to read with a clear mind before making yourself look like a fool.

UTA!!
Morning/Afternoon SSI
If you want to talk semantics, I have to say I think the line from the Nevada Chatterbox does suggest CMS was injured in the cup, therefore, on this occasion RT has a point. (It was bound to happen)
He's talking about the cup and he's suggesting a cup team would protect players from injury, citing CMS "as happened last year".... Sorry but that says to me he's referring (still) to the cup.
I rarely get involved in "he said she said" debates, but Nevada's mouthpiece does seem to regard himself as the school teacher who can never be wrong.
[quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: It will be interesting to see how Hyypia approaches our cup matches, both in this competition and the FA Cup. Hoping that we don't fall at the first hurdle of either, might Sami have a cup team and a league team. It's common for us to have an FA Cup team, one where back up players get their chance, but this first match comes early in the season so not sure if Hyypia will know who is back up and who isn't, other than on paper. I like the idea of having a cup team no matter which cup it is that we are playing. I think it will be good for back up players to be able to look at our fixture list and know they will be on the park. I also don't want to see the likes of CMS get injured, as happened last year, so early. A development lad might see that he has a chance of breaking into the cup team where as he might not stand as much of a chance of breaking into the first team squad, that would have to be a good thing.[/p][/quote]You have said this before, CMS did not get injured in this competition. He was injured in the back end of the previous season and did not play against palace in the play offs. How many times FFS Vegas, you tool.[/p][/quote]as happened last year he said not last season you fool.cockwomble[/p][/quote]I wasn't going to bother correcting the fool, but as you have, yes you are correct, that is what I said.[/p][/quote]Mackail-Smith, who came on in the 78th minute against the Tykes, had been on the sidelines since tearing his Achilles tendon against Bristol City in March 2013. Tell me Vegas/Arnie was this Bristol City game a cup match as referred to by Vegas in his original post. Cos I think you will find its a championship game, if its not i will never post on this site again.[/p][/quote]Oops 7 mins and counting waiting for a response from vegas.[/p][/quote]Hey Scrote. You'll find Vegas won't bother answering because if you actually read what he said, he said that CMS was injured, he doesn't actually say that it was in a cup competition. You might find that what he is actually implying is that asking the first team to play the early rounds of cup competitions is just exposing them to unnneccesary risk. Can't say I totally agree with him but you just need to read with a clear mind before making yourself look like a fool. UTA!![/p][/quote]Morning/Afternoon SSI If you want to talk semantics, I have to say I think the line from the Nevada Chatterbox does suggest CMS was injured in the cup, therefore, on this occasion RT has a point. (It was bound to happen) He's talking about the cup and he's suggesting a cup team would protect players from injury, citing CMS "as happened last year".... Sorry but that says to me he's referring (still) to the cup. I rarely get involved in "he said she said" debates, but Nevada's mouthpiece does seem to regard himself as the school teacher who can never be wrong. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 5

7:26am Wed 11 Jun 14

amexarena says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
As someone else has said, there's no explanation of how the seeding works or what the advantages are. Its obvious (I assume) that seeds won't play each other, but how long does seeding last? Who are the Championship non-seeds? Does it matter if we're first seed or 18th? Not very enlightening.
Anyway, when you read it, it's just a series of bullet points. He's not exactly Henry Winter is he?
Have to agree - this story is a column filler which means and says nothing. All Champoinship / League 1 / League 2 clubs play in this competition in round one - according to league position the previous season the best teams are seeded, the crap ones aren't. The top teams draw a crap team - like Newport - don't take it seriously and get knocked out - thereby deflating their early season optimism.

As a CEO of any football club I would demand that the coach always plays the best available team - the business is playing football to entertain the fans and be successful. Tossing away Cup games with weak teams has become an epidemic - so bad in fact that it now begins to fly in the face of logic. Southampton were stuck in mid Premier League with a really talented team, yet Pochettino played a weak FA Cup team at Sunderland when it was realistically the only competition they could win (and they might have won it).

With a couple more experienced players we would have beaten Hull at home - and perhaps been in the Europa League this season. Nonsense of the highest order and insulting to the fans and ticket buyers.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: As someone else has said, there's no explanation of how the seeding works or what the advantages are. Its obvious (I assume) that seeds won't play each other, but how long does seeding last? Who are the Championship non-seeds? Does it matter if we're first seed or 18th? Not very enlightening. Anyway, when you read it, it's just a series of bullet points. He's not exactly Henry Winter is he?[/p][/quote]Have to agree - this story is a column filler which means and says nothing. All Champoinship / League 1 / League 2 clubs play in this competition in round one - according to league position the previous season the best teams are seeded, the crap ones aren't. The top teams draw a crap team - like Newport - don't take it seriously and get knocked out - thereby deflating their early season optimism. As a CEO of any football club I would demand that the coach always plays the best available team - the business is playing football to entertain the fans and be successful. Tossing away Cup games with weak teams has become an epidemic - so bad in fact that it now begins to fly in the face of logic. Southampton were stuck in mid Premier League with a really talented team, yet Pochettino played a weak FA Cup team at Sunderland when it was realistically the only competition they could win (and they might have won it). With a couple more experienced players we would have beaten Hull at home - and perhaps been in the Europa League this season. Nonsense of the highest order and insulting to the fans and ticket buyers. amexarena
  • Score: 2

7:58am Wed 11 Jun 14

dave from bexill says...

gordongull and amexarena. Absolutely agree with you both. I'm still smarting at the way we lost to Hull and therefore gave up the opportunity to have a 'special' match against Sunderland(Gus) and who knows after that.
gordongull and amexarena. Absolutely agree with you both. I'm still smarting at the way we lost to Hull and therefore gave up the opportunity to have a 'special' match against Sunderland(Gus) and who knows after that. dave from bexill
  • Score: 0

8:06am Wed 11 Jun 14

ringtone says...

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
ringtone wrote:
ringtone wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Cockwomble wrote:
ringtone wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
It will be interesting to see how Hyypia approaches our cup matches, both in this competition and the FA Cup. Hoping that we don't fall at the first hurdle of either, might Sami have a cup team and a league team. It's common for us to have an FA Cup team, one where back up players get their chance, but this first match comes early in the season so not sure if Hyypia will know who is back up and who isn't, other than on paper.

I like the idea of having a cup team no matter which cup it is that we are playing. I think it will be good for back up players to be able to look at our fixture list and know they will be on the park. I also don't want to see the likes of CMS get injured, as happened last year, so early. A development lad might see that he has a chance of breaking into the cup team where as he might not stand as much of a chance of breaking into the first team squad, that would have to be a good thing.
You have said this before,

CMS did not get injured in this competition.

He was injured in the back end of the previous season and did not play against palace in the play offs.

How many times

FFS Vegas, you tool.
as happened last year he said not last season you fool.cockwomble
I wasn't going to bother correcting the fool, but as you have, yes you are correct, that is what I said.
Mackail-Smith, who came on in the 78th minute against the Tykes, had been on the sidelines since tearing his Achilles tendon against Bristol City in March 2013.

Tell me Vegas/Arnie was this Bristol City game a cup match as referred to by Vegas in his original post.

Cos I think you will find its a championship game, if its not i will never post on this site again.
Oops 7 mins and counting waiting for a response from vegas.
Hey Scrote. You'll find Vegas won't bother answering because if you actually read what he said, he said that CMS was injured, he doesn't actually say that it was in a cup competition. You might find that what he is actually implying is that asking the first team to play the early rounds of cup competitions is just exposing them to unnneccesary risk. Can't say I totally agree with him but you just need to read with a clear mind before making yourself look like a fool.

UTA!!
Quote "I also don't want to see the likes of CMS get injured, as happened last year, so early"

Maybe the end of March could be described as early in the calender year but certainly not in terms of the english football season.

Try reading with an unbiased mind before exposing yourself to ridicule.
[quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: It will be interesting to see how Hyypia approaches our cup matches, both in this competition and the FA Cup. Hoping that we don't fall at the first hurdle of either, might Sami have a cup team and a league team. It's common for us to have an FA Cup team, one where back up players get their chance, but this first match comes early in the season so not sure if Hyypia will know who is back up and who isn't, other than on paper. I like the idea of having a cup team no matter which cup it is that we are playing. I think it will be good for back up players to be able to look at our fixture list and know they will be on the park. I also don't want to see the likes of CMS get injured, as happened last year, so early. A development lad might see that he has a chance of breaking into the cup team where as he might not stand as much of a chance of breaking into the first team squad, that would have to be a good thing.[/p][/quote]You have said this before, CMS did not get injured in this competition. He was injured in the back end of the previous season and did not play against palace in the play offs. How many times FFS Vegas, you tool.[/p][/quote]as happened last year he said not last season you fool.cockwomble[/p][/quote]I wasn't going to bother correcting the fool, but as you have, yes you are correct, that is what I said.[/p][/quote]Mackail-Smith, who came on in the 78th minute against the Tykes, had been on the sidelines since tearing his Achilles tendon against Bristol City in March 2013. Tell me Vegas/Arnie was this Bristol City game a cup match as referred to by Vegas in his original post. Cos I think you will find its a championship game, if its not i will never post on this site again.[/p][/quote]Oops 7 mins and counting waiting for a response from vegas.[/p][/quote]Hey Scrote. You'll find Vegas won't bother answering because if you actually read what he said, he said that CMS was injured, he doesn't actually say that it was in a cup competition. You might find that what he is actually implying is that asking the first team to play the early rounds of cup competitions is just exposing them to unnneccesary risk. Can't say I totally agree with him but you just need to read with a clear mind before making yourself look like a fool. UTA!![/p][/quote]Quote "I also don't want to see the likes of CMS get injured, as happened last year, so early" Maybe the end of March could be described as early in the calender year but certainly not in terms of the english football season. Try reading with an unbiased mind before exposing yourself to ridicule. ringtone
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