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Hot property Walton keen to move up Albion goalkeeper pecking order

The Argus: Christian Walton is being watched by Premier League sides Christian Walton is being watched by Premier League sides

Christian Walton wants to press his claims to rise up Albion’s goalkeeping pecking order amid interest from the Premier League.

The teenage prospect is keen to grab the opportunity of a more prominent role with the Seagulls under new boss Sami Hyypia following his breakthrough with England under-19s.

Walton’s father, Tim, has confirmed interest from Arsenal and Manchester City after an eye-catching first season with Albion for his son culminated in a hat-trick of appearances for England’s youngsters in their failed attempt to qualify for the European Championship finals in Hungary.

Walton senior, speaking to the Cornish Guardian, said: “A number of clubs have been watching Christian. Arsenal are one and we know Manchester City are keen.

“He did extremely well in his three games for England, which has attracted interest.”

The Argus understands, however, that Walton would prefer to continue his education with Albion, as they can offer the 18-year-old a more realistic and speedier route to the first team.

Walton was fourth choice last season after Albion fought off interest from several clubs, including Fulham, to sign him from Plymouth Argyle 16 months ago for an undisclosed fee.

He was on the bench as cover for Peter Brezovan for games against Leicester and Middlesbrough when first choice Tomasz Kuszczak and Casper Ankergren were both injured.

His chances of further involvement have improved dramatically with the departures at the end of the season of Kuszczak and Brezovan.

Ankergren, regarded as a good influence in the dressing room, has been retained leaving Walton, with two years remaining on his contract, to fight it out with the veteran Dane to deputise for the new No. 1 installed by Hyypia.

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5:19am Wed 11 Jun 14

albionbloke says...

Good news....nice to see a positive article. Like his attitude about wanting to stay with the Albion, have a feeling he will be firmly entrenched as our backup this season. Good luck Christian...stay with us and you'll see the PL pretty soon.
Good news....nice to see a positive article. Like his attitude about wanting to stay with the Albion, have a feeling he will be firmly entrenched as our backup this season. Good luck Christian...stay with us and you'll see the PL pretty soon. albionbloke
  • Score: 28

5:32am Wed 11 Jun 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

Seize the day Christian. You can take the number two spot with ease now. Cup games almost assured and from there who knows? With the 'big' clubs there may be attractions, but first team football certainly isn't one of them.

Hope we can keep him. The likes of Christian Walton are our future.

UTA!!
Seize the day Christian. You can take the number two spot with ease now. Cup games almost assured and from there who knows? With the 'big' clubs there may be attractions, but first team football certainly isn't one of them. Hope we can keep him. The likes of Christian Walton are our future. UTA!! Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 33

5:55am Wed 11 Jun 14

oksouthstander says...

With SM bringing in his former goal-keeping coach from Bayer Leverkusen hopefully the future looks good for Christian.The door is open for Christian to establish himself between the posts for the Albion.Top Notch keeper in our ranks from our academy.On another note with Buckers injury track record howabout Hot Property 18 year old Islam Feruz from Chelsea loaned to us for the season I hear he is set to be loaned out by Chelsea according to Sky sports.
With SM bringing in his former goal-keeping coach from Bayer Leverkusen hopefully the future looks good for Christian.The door is open for Christian to establish himself between the posts for the Albion.Top Notch keeper in our ranks from our academy.On another note with Buckers injury track record howabout Hot Property 18 year old Islam Feruz from Chelsea loaned to us for the season I hear he is set to be loaned out by Chelsea according to Sky sports. oksouthstander
  • Score: 10

5:58am Wed 11 Jun 14

Jonathan Mouette says...

A worst case scenario might be that big money talks but that we secure his services for at least a season long loan. It all that can be deferred for a year so much the better.

What I find just as exciting is the excitement on Merseyside about the managerial appointment (probably more so than in Sussex if you can believe all you read on here!) and the fact that the Liverpool Academy will have a good Championship club to blood a few of their prospects... They seem to regard SH as a saint. With Walton and our other home-grown(ish) youngsters there could be very interesting and exciting times ahead. UTA!!!
A worst case scenario might be that big money talks but that we secure his services for at least a season long loan. It all that can be deferred for a year so much the better. What I find just as exciting is the excitement on Merseyside about the managerial appointment (probably more so than in Sussex if you can believe all you read on here!) and the fact that the Liverpool Academy will have a good Championship club to blood a few of their prospects... They seem to regard SH as a saint. With Walton and our other home-grown(ish) youngsters there could be very interesting and exciting times ahead. UTA!!! Jonathan Mouette
  • Score: 22

6:28am Wed 11 Jun 14

arc12 says...

He should be our number 1 this season. He must have his chance and it would save the cost of trying to buy in another keeper. We must go with youth this season IMO.
He should be our number 1 this season. He must have his chance and it would save the cost of trying to buy in another keeper. We must go with youth this season IMO. arc12
  • Score: 28

6:28am Wed 11 Jun 14

namgo49 says...

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Seize the day Christian. You can take the number two spot with ease now. Cup games almost assured and from there who knows? With the 'big' clubs there may be attractions, but first team football certainly isn't one of them.

Hope we can keep him. The likes of Christian Walton are our future.

UTA!!
I would have thought número uno if we only have dear old Casper!!
[quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: Seize the day Christian. You can take the number two spot with ease now. Cup games almost assured and from there who knows? With the 'big' clubs there may be attractions, but first team football certainly isn't one of them. Hope we can keep him. The likes of Christian Walton are our future. UTA!![/p][/quote]I would have thought número uno if we only have dear old Casper!! namgo49
  • Score: 9

6:38am Wed 11 Jun 14

JeffLomer says...

Morning The problem here is Waltons father I think he is putting his sons name about to the bigger clubs, offer Walton a new contract like singing seagull Indonesia says he is our future, the grass is not always greener moving to a bigger club, he would probably get zero game time at the clubs being mentioned, it's not about getting big money for him, it's about keeping him and having a great keeper for many years, the club need to tell his dad to keep his mouth shut, he belongs to us not his dad, is his dad also his agent that's a worry if he is.
Up the Albion!!
Morning The problem here is Waltons father I think he is putting his sons name about to the bigger clubs, offer Walton a new contract like singing seagull Indonesia says he is our future, the grass is not always greener moving to a bigger club, he would probably get zero game time at the clubs being mentioned, it's not about getting big money for him, it's about keeping him and having a great keeper for many years, the club need to tell his dad to keep his mouth shut, he belongs to us not his dad, is his dad also his agent that's a worry if he is. Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 15

6:41am Wed 11 Jun 14

AlfieT says...

Good attitude from the lad, would be so easy to join Arsenal or City then be their third or forth choice. Secure second spot with the Albion, and how about Casper as coach, appears to be well respected by players and management alike.
Good attitude from the lad, would be so easy to join Arsenal or City then be their third or forth choice. Secure second spot with the Albion, and how about Casper as coach, appears to be well respected by players and management alike. AlfieT
  • Score: 14

6:47am Wed 11 Jun 14

namgo49 says...

We don't want another Hall situation. We could have done with him here this coming season instead of Birmingham having him. Sale and loan back for the year at least if he is going to go.
We don't want another Hall situation. We could have done with him here this coming season instead of Birmingham having him. Sale and loan back for the year at least if he is going to go. namgo49
  • Score: -5

7:33am Wed 11 Jun 14

spidergull says...

Was Tomasz Kuszczak actually injured towards the end of the season? All seemed dubious to me... I bet his agent's heart sunk when he let in that howler against Forest and then 4 against Derby... Good keeper mind... Shot stopper anyway, just very questionable distribution at times.
Was Tomasz Kuszczak actually injured towards the end of the season? All seemed dubious to me... I bet his agent's heart sunk when he let in that howler against Forest and then 4 against Derby... Good keeper mind... Shot stopper anyway, just very questionable distribution at times. spidergull
  • Score: 7

7:33am Wed 11 Jun 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

namgo49 wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Seize the day Christian. You can take the number two spot with ease now. Cup games almost assured and from there who knows? With the 'big' clubs there may be attractions, but first team football certainly isn't one of them.

Hope we can keep him. The likes of Christian Walton are our future.

UTA!!
I would have thought número uno if we only have dear old Casper!!
Yes, totally agree with that. My badge of number two is based on an assumption that a new keeper will be signed up - and I'm sure that will be the case.

UTA!!
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: Seize the day Christian. You can take the number two spot with ease now. Cup games almost assured and from there who knows? With the 'big' clubs there may be attractions, but first team football certainly isn't one of them. Hope we can keep him. The likes of Christian Walton are our future. UTA!![/p][/quote]I would have thought número uno if we only have dear old Casper!![/p][/quote]Yes, totally agree with that. My badge of number two is based on an assumption that a new keeper will be signed up - and I'm sure that will be the case. UTA!! Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 8

7:42am Wed 11 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Morning The problem here is Waltons father I think he is putting his sons name about to the bigger clubs, offer Walton a new contract like singing seagull Indonesia says he is our future, the grass is not always greener moving to a bigger club, he would probably get zero game time at the clubs being mentioned, it's not about getting big money for him, it's about keeping him and having a great keeper for many years, the club need to tell his dad to keep his mouth shut, he belongs to us not his dad, is his dad also his agent that's a worry if he is.
Up the Albion!!
Yep, If i was the club, I wouldn't be happy about someone - regardless of status - openly revealing interest from elsewhere for a player who's under contract.
It strongly suggests Mr. Walton has received direct approaches from the clubs which is a bit naughty and he may have a bit of explaining to do behind closed doors at the Amex...?
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Morning The problem here is Waltons father I think he is putting his sons name about to the bigger clubs, offer Walton a new contract like singing seagull Indonesia says he is our future, the grass is not always greener moving to a bigger club, he would probably get zero game time at the clubs being mentioned, it's not about getting big money for him, it's about keeping him and having a great keeper for many years, the club need to tell his dad to keep his mouth shut, he belongs to us not his dad, is his dad also his agent that's a worry if he is. Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]Yep, If i was the club, I wouldn't be happy about someone - regardless of status - openly revealing interest from elsewhere for a player who's under contract. It strongly suggests Mr. Walton has received direct approaches from the clubs which is a bit naughty and he may have a bit of explaining to do behind closed doors at the Amex...? Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 12

7:55am Wed 11 Jun 14

Alan G Skinner says...

Personally I wouldn't be surprised if Walton was our No.1 this season. Looks to have everything you would want from a keeper. Obviously it would be nice to tie him down to a contract longer than two years but I'm sure should he be our no.1 a new contract will be forthcoming.
Personally I wouldn't be surprised if Walton was our No.1 this season. Looks to have everything you would want from a keeper. Obviously it would be nice to tie him down to a contract longer than two years but I'm sure should he be our no.1 a new contract will be forthcoming. Alan G Skinner
  • Score: 11

7:57am Wed 11 Jun 14

mark by the sea says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
Morning The problem here is Waltons father I think he is putting his sons name about to the bigger clubs, offer Walton a new contract like singing seagull Indonesia says he is our future, the grass is not always greener moving to a bigger club, he would probably get zero game time at the clubs being mentioned, it's not about getting big money for him, it's about keeping him and having a great keeper for many years, the club need to tell his dad to keep his mouth shut, he belongs to us not his dad, is his dad also his agent that's a worry if he is.
Up the Albion!!
Yep, If i was the club, I wouldn't be happy about someone - regardless of status - openly revealing interest from elsewhere for a player who's under contract.
It strongly suggests Mr. Walton has received direct approaches from the clubs which is a bit naughty and he may have a bit of explaining to do behind closed doors at the Amex...?
I seem to remember mervyn day was the factor when we originally signed him,
From waltons perspective , he will want first team football in next 18 months, I did suggest he would go out on loan...
However there have been lots of keepers who made horror debuts and never recovered! So do we cash in knowing he is not ready yet?
Or blood him with risk he could flop? Gamble ?
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Morning The problem here is Waltons father I think he is putting his sons name about to the bigger clubs, offer Walton a new contract like singing seagull Indonesia says he is our future, the grass is not always greener moving to a bigger club, he would probably get zero game time at the clubs being mentioned, it's not about getting big money for him, it's about keeping him and having a great keeper for many years, the club need to tell his dad to keep his mouth shut, he belongs to us not his dad, is his dad also his agent that's a worry if he is. Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]Yep, If i was the club, I wouldn't be happy about someone - regardless of status - openly revealing interest from elsewhere for a player who's under contract. It strongly suggests Mr. Walton has received direct approaches from the clubs which is a bit naughty and he may have a bit of explaining to do behind closed doors at the Amex...?[/p][/quote]I seem to remember mervyn day was the factor when we originally signed him, From waltons perspective , he will want first team football in next 18 months, I did suggest he would go out on loan... However there have been lots of keepers who made horror debuts and never recovered! So do we cash in knowing he is not ready yet? Or blood him with risk he could flop? Gamble ? mark by the sea
  • Score: 3

8:01am Wed 11 Jun 14

the taffster says...

Brighton, or man city? Its a tough decision isn't it?!
Brighton, or man city? Its a tough decision isn't it?! the taffster
  • Score: -24

8:12am Wed 11 Jun 14

farside says...

He only has to look at Jack Butland for an example that the grass is rarely greener........
Number two to Bialkowski this season with Anks taking on the coaching role??? Maybe.
He only has to look at Jack Butland for an example that the grass is rarely greener........ Number two to Bialkowski this season with Anks taking on the coaching role??? Maybe. farside
  • Score: 4

8:18am Wed 11 Jun 14

JeffLomer says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
Morning The problem here is Waltons father I think he is putting his sons name about to the bigger clubs, offer Walton a new contract like singing seagull Indonesia says he is our future, the grass is not always greener moving to a bigger club, he would probably get zero game time at the clubs being mentioned, it's not about getting big money for him, it's about keeping him and having a great keeper for many years, the club need to tell his dad to keep his mouth shut, he belongs to us not his dad, is his dad also his agent that's a worry if he is.
Up the Albion!!
Yep, If i was the club, I wouldn't be happy about someone - regardless of status - openly revealing interest from elsewhere for a player who's under contract.
It strongly suggests Mr. Walton has received direct approaches from the clubs which is a bit naughty and he may have a bit of explaining to do behind closed doors at the Amex...?
Morning Staffs, yes let's hope the club get this sorted, we've spent alot off money developing this lad, last thing we need is a big club coming in and taking him for a peanuts, offer him a new improved contract, if he doesn't sign we will no he has been getting the wrong advice in my opinion from his dad, last thing we cannot afford to do is let him run his contract down and leave for nothing,
Up the Albion!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Morning The problem here is Waltons father I think he is putting his sons name about to the bigger clubs, offer Walton a new contract like singing seagull Indonesia says he is our future, the grass is not always greener moving to a bigger club, he would probably get zero game time at the clubs being mentioned, it's not about getting big money for him, it's about keeping him and having a great keeper for many years, the club need to tell his dad to keep his mouth shut, he belongs to us not his dad, is his dad also his agent that's a worry if he is. Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]Yep, If i was the club, I wouldn't be happy about someone - regardless of status - openly revealing interest from elsewhere for a player who's under contract. It strongly suggests Mr. Walton has received direct approaches from the clubs which is a bit naughty and he may have a bit of explaining to do behind closed doors at the Amex...?[/p][/quote]Morning Staffs, yes let's hope the club get this sorted, we've spent alot off money developing this lad, last thing we need is a big club coming in and taking him for a peanuts, offer him a new improved contract, if he doesn't sign we will no he has been getting the wrong advice in my opinion from his dad, last thing we cannot afford to do is let him run his contract down and leave for nothing, Up the Albion!!!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 2

8:35am Wed 11 Jun 14

JeffLomer says...

the taffster wrote:
Brighton, or man city? Its a tough decision isn't it?!
The only tough decision Walton got to make is does he actually want a career im football if he does then we are the right club for him not Man city, he could be our keeper for the next ten years if he is any good,

Do you honestly think he would stand a chance off getting into a team like City I personally don't think so do you, if he went there he would disappear out the game in a few years or be in league two taking the wrong advice, so no I don't think it's a hard decision to be honest, love to no what you think, the grass is not always greener as they say!!
Up the Albion!!!!
[quote][p][bold]the taffster[/bold] wrote: Brighton, or man city? Its a tough decision isn't it?![/p][/quote]The only tough decision Walton got to make is does he actually want a career im football if he does then we are the right club for him not Man city, he could be our keeper for the next ten years if he is any good, Do you honestly think he would stand a chance off getting into a team like City I personally don't think so do you, if he went there he would disappear out the game in a few years or be in league two taking the wrong advice, so no I don't think it's a hard decision to be honest, love to no what you think, the grass is not always greener as they say!! Up the Albion!!!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 14

8:37am Wed 11 Jun 14

Quiterie says...

arc12 wrote:
He should be our number 1 this season. He must have his chance and it would save the cost of trying to buy in another keeper. We must go with youth this season IMO.
Totally agree. Get him in there between the sticks. And as mentioned it would free up valuable wages/transfer fees for other more needy positions.

If it doesn't work out we can always pick up another keeper on loan a quarter of the way through the season.
[quote][p][bold]arc12[/bold] wrote: He should be our number 1 this season. He must have his chance and it would save the cost of trying to buy in another keeper. We must go with youth this season IMO.[/p][/quote]Totally agree. Get him in there between the sticks. And as mentioned it would free up valuable wages/transfer fees for other more needy positions. If it doesn't work out we can always pick up another keeper on loan a quarter of the way through the season. Quiterie
  • Score: 9

9:20am Wed 11 Jun 14

DuncanThickett says...

Nice to hear that from Christian. I would be happy to see him break into Championship games this season, and if he copes well with the pressure, we need to extend his contract. Youngsters like this can be our future, providing we can hold onto them.
Nice to hear that from Christian. I would be happy to see him break into Championship games this season, and if he copes well with the pressure, we need to extend his contract. Youngsters like this can be our future, providing we can hold onto them. DuncanThickett
  • Score: 8

9:51am Wed 11 Jun 14

Max Ripple says...

Christians father is obviously the fly in the ointment here. He may well be just seeing the £££ signs and trying to get a contract with a big club like City but if he does get tempted to go there he will undoubtedly be third or fourth choice for the next few years.
Even if we do sign another no.1 Christian will at least be on the bench every week unless there are injuries to the no.1 or if that keeper has a dip in form. Casper has had a good run with us and knows it. IMHO I ink he will be happy with another season on contract with us not matter what happens.
Give Christian his chance here. New contract. New deal. New hopes for his future.
Christians father is obviously the fly in the ointment here. He may well be just seeing the £££ signs and trying to get a contract with a big club like City but if he does get tempted to go there he will undoubtedly be third or fourth choice for the next few years. Even if we do sign another no.1 Christian will at least be on the bench every week unless there are injuries to the no.1 or if that keeper has a dip in form. Casper has had a good run with us and knows it. IMHO I ink he will be happy with another season on contract with us not matter what happens. Give Christian his chance here. New contract. New deal. New hopes for his future. Max Ripple
  • Score: 7

10:03am Wed 11 Jun 14

tug509 says...

Everyone on here has said it all ,i hope at least Walton himself reads some of your advice ,he hasn`t even finished growing physically yet ,to put his body under the high pressure that would be expected at City or Arsenal not to mention the mental strain of achieving at the highest level could do him more harm than good in the long term ,where as The Albion would take things at a pace that he could handle and eventually benefit from ,he may even play the second game of the season ( League Cup ) that would be a good bench mark for his readiness imho . UTA
Everyone on here has said it all ,i hope at least Walton himself reads some of your advice ,he hasn`t even finished growing physically yet ,to put his body under the high pressure that would be expected at City or Arsenal not to mention the mental strain of achieving at the highest level could do him more harm than good in the long term ,where as The Albion would take things at a pace that he could handle and eventually benefit from ,he may even play the second game of the season ( League Cup ) that would be a good bench mark for his readiness imho . UTA tug509
  • Score: 4

10:07am Wed 11 Jun 14

bha3072011 says...

Who needs to buy a new goalkeeper when we have one of the hottest prospects in English football. Maybe we should ignore the short term plans and look long term by having Walton as our No. 1 straight away. He may struggle in his first season but better now than later when he is at an age where it is more difficult to learn new things.
Who needs to buy a new goalkeeper when we have one of the hottest prospects in English football. Maybe we should ignore the short term plans and look long term by having Walton as our No. 1 straight away. He may struggle in his first season but better now than later when he is at an age where it is more difficult to learn new things. bha3072011
  • Score: 9

10:20am Wed 11 Jun 14

JeffLomer says...

farside wrote:
He only has to look at Jack Butland for an example that the grass is rarely greener........
Number two to Bialkowski this season with Anks taking on the coaching role??? Maybe.
Morning farside, Jack Butland is a great example since he has signed for Stoke not even there number two or three keeper, just been loaned out to championship teams, the prospects off him breaking in to the team are slim I honestly thought when he moved to stoke that he would be on the fringes off making the world cup squad, but his move has taken him backwards in my opinion
Up the albion!!!!
[quote][p][bold]farside[/bold] wrote: He only has to look at Jack Butland for an example that the grass is rarely greener........ Number two to Bialkowski this season with Anks taking on the coaching role??? Maybe.[/p][/quote]Morning farside, Jack Butland is a great example since he has signed for Stoke not even there number two or three keeper, just been loaned out to championship teams, the prospects off him breaking in to the team are slim I honestly thought when he moved to stoke that he would be on the fringes off making the world cup squad, but his move has taken him backwards in my opinion Up the albion!!!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 3

10:21am Wed 11 Jun 14

tinker111 says...

arc12 wrote:
He should be our number 1 this season. He must have his chance and it would save the cost of trying to buy in another keeper. We must go with youth this season IMO.
well said CW should have been no2 last season in front of brez & ankers
[quote][p][bold]arc12[/bold] wrote: He should be our number 1 this season. He must have his chance and it would save the cost of trying to buy in another keeper. We must go with youth this season IMO.[/p][/quote]well said CW should have been no2 last season in front of brez & ankers tinker111
  • Score: 1

10:25am Wed 11 Jun 14

DuncanThickett says...

bha3072011 wrote:
Who needs to buy a new goalkeeper when we have one of the hottest prospects in English football. Maybe we should ignore the short term plans and look long term by having Walton as our No. 1 straight away. He may struggle in his first season but better now than later when he is at an age where it is more difficult to learn new things.
I'm inclined to agree, it would be the best way to learn and make him a better player long term.
[quote][p][bold]bha3072011[/bold] wrote: Who needs to buy a new goalkeeper when we have one of the hottest prospects in English football. Maybe we should ignore the short term plans and look long term by having Walton as our No. 1 straight away. He may struggle in his first season but better now than later when he is at an age where it is more difficult to learn new things.[/p][/quote]I'm inclined to agree, it would be the best way to learn and make him a better player long term. DuncanThickett
  • Score: 3

10:31am Wed 11 Jun 14

Claude Back says...

JeffLomer wrote:
the taffster wrote:
Brighton, or man city? Its a tough decision isn't it?!
The only tough decision Walton got to make is does he actually want a career im football if he does then we are the right club for him not Man city, he could be our keeper for the next ten years if he is any good,

Do you honestly think he would stand a chance off getting into a team like City I personally don't think so do you, if he went there he would disappear out the game in a few years or be in league two taking the wrong advice, so no I don't think it's a hard decision to be honest, love to no what you think, the grass is not always greener as they say!!
Up the Albion!!!!
I agree . ;-)
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the taffster[/bold] wrote: Brighton, or man city? Its a tough decision isn't it?![/p][/quote]The only tough decision Walton got to make is does he actually want a career im football if he does then we are the right club for him not Man city, he could be our keeper for the next ten years if he is any good, Do you honestly think he would stand a chance off getting into a team like City I personally don't think so do you, if he went there he would disappear out the game in a few years or be in league two taking the wrong advice, so no I don't think it's a hard decision to be honest, love to no what you think, the grass is not always greener as they say!! Up the Albion!!!![/p][/quote]I agree . ;-) Claude Back
  • Score: 6

10:47am Wed 11 Jun 14

Albion fan in London says...

He is in the best place to develop and should be our no2 next season. This is the start of things to come. It tremendous that we have players coming through at national standard. Whose to say we wont have Brighton players playing in the next 2-3 world cups!
He is in the best place to develop and should be our no2 next season. This is the start of things to come. It tremendous that we have players coming through at national standard. Whose to say we wont have Brighton players playing in the next 2-3 world cups! Albion fan in London
  • Score: 2

12:33pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Steyning reject says...

I would tend to agree with mbts in that he should be given the chance to go out on loan but only until the new year as he is young and still learning, and then review the situation then either bring him back as the no.1 here or loan him out again, as our no.2 hes not going to get much game time and thats what he needs now.
If he is to be our no.1 this season he will need someone in front of him to help marshall the defence while he gains confedence and experience, someone in the mould of Upson.
As others have mentioned he needs to be on a 4 year contract because if we lose him it could be on the scale of Garth Barry.
I hope he has long and successful career at our club and in 20 years time we are talking about how good he has been for us.
To the future
I would tend to agree with mbts in that he should be given the chance to go out on loan but only until the new year as he is young and still learning, and then review the situation then either bring him back as the no.1 here or loan him out again, as our no.2 hes not going to get much game time and thats what he needs now. If he is to be our no.1 this season he will need someone in front of him to help marshall the defence while he gains confedence and experience, someone in the mould of Upson. As others have mentioned he needs to be on a 4 year contract because if we lose him it could be on the scale of Garth Barry. I hope he has long and successful career at our club and in 20 years time we are talking about how good he has been for us. To the future Steyning reject
  • Score: 1

12:33pm Wed 11 Jun 14

keswick says...

Max Ripple wrote:
Christians father is obviously the fly in the ointment here. He may well be just seeing the £££ signs and trying to get a contract with a big club like City but if he does get tempted to go there he will undoubtedly be third or fourth choice for the next few years.
Even if we do sign another no.1 Christian will at least be on the bench every week unless there are injuries to the no.1 or if that keeper has a dip in form. Casper has had a good run with us and knows it. IMHO I ink he will be happy with another season on contract with us not matter what happens.
Give Christian his chance here. New contract. New deal. New hopes for his future.
Personally I agree with your reading of the situation. The father is looking purely at the immediate pounds, shillings and pence but if he was looking at the longer term he would be better staying at a club like Brighton, where last season showed younger players can get their chance, and building a future in the game. May need to tie him to a longer contract but is that part of the fathers thinking. Again all about money which personally I think is rather sad.
[quote][p][bold]Max Ripple[/bold] wrote: Christians father is obviously the fly in the ointment here. He may well be just seeing the £££ signs and trying to get a contract with a big club like City but if he does get tempted to go there he will undoubtedly be third or fourth choice for the next few years. Even if we do sign another no.1 Christian will at least be on the bench every week unless there are injuries to the no.1 or if that keeper has a dip in form. Casper has had a good run with us and knows it. IMHO I ink he will be happy with another season on contract with us not matter what happens. Give Christian his chance here. New contract. New deal. New hopes for his future.[/p][/quote]Personally I agree with your reading of the situation. The father is looking purely at the immediate pounds, shillings and pence but if he was looking at the longer term he would be better staying at a club like Brighton, where last season showed younger players can get their chance, and building a future in the game. May need to tie him to a longer contract but is that part of the fathers thinking. Again all about money which personally I think is rather sad. keswick
  • Score: 0

12:35pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
Morning The problem here is Waltons father I think he is putting his sons name about to the bigger clubs, offer Walton a new contract like singing seagull Indonesia says he is our future, the grass is not always greener moving to a bigger club, he would probably get zero game time at the clubs being mentioned, it's not about getting big money for him, it's about keeping him and having a great keeper for many years, the club need to tell his dad to keep his mouth shut, he belongs to us not his dad, is his dad also his agent that's a worry if he is.
Up the Albion!!
Yep, If i was the club, I wouldn't be happy about someone - regardless of status - openly revealing interest from elsewhere for a player who's under contract.
It strongly suggests Mr. Walton has received direct approaches from the clubs which is a bit naughty and he may have a bit of explaining to do behind closed doors at the Amex...?
Morning Staffs, yes let's hope the club get this sorted, we've spent alot off money developing this lad, last thing we need is a big club coming in and taking him for a peanuts, offer him a new improved contract, if he doesn't sign we will no he has been getting the wrong advice in my opinion from his dad, last thing we cannot afford to do is let him run his contract down and leave for nothing,
Up the Albion!!!!
By way of balance, I should add to my previous comment that it is equally likely that Mr. Walton was merely reflecting speculation in the press, although my own view is that I'm being somewhat benevolent with that.
By all means reflect fatherly pride to your local newspaper, but leave the rest alone. As for the lad, a lot will depend on who the new goalkeeping coach is. If he's happy and feels 'loved' he's likely to stay somewhere that offers a realistic chance of competitive action.
And from what The Argus says about his current preference, I like the cut of his gib! (Even if he does look like Peter Crouch's lovechild...)
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Morning The problem here is Waltons father I think he is putting his sons name about to the bigger clubs, offer Walton a new contract like singing seagull Indonesia says he is our future, the grass is not always greener moving to a bigger club, he would probably get zero game time at the clubs being mentioned, it's not about getting big money for him, it's about keeping him and having a great keeper for many years, the club need to tell his dad to keep his mouth shut, he belongs to us not his dad, is his dad also his agent that's a worry if he is. Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]Yep, If i was the club, I wouldn't be happy about someone - regardless of status - openly revealing interest from elsewhere for a player who's under contract. It strongly suggests Mr. Walton has received direct approaches from the clubs which is a bit naughty and he may have a bit of explaining to do behind closed doors at the Amex...?[/p][/quote]Morning Staffs, yes let's hope the club get this sorted, we've spent alot off money developing this lad, last thing we need is a big club coming in and taking him for a peanuts, offer him a new improved contract, if he doesn't sign we will no he has been getting the wrong advice in my opinion from his dad, last thing we cannot afford to do is let him run his contract down and leave for nothing, Up the Albion!!!![/p][/quote]By way of balance, I should add to my previous comment that it is equally likely that Mr. Walton was merely reflecting speculation in the press, although my own view is that I'm being somewhat benevolent with that. By all means reflect fatherly pride to your local newspaper, but leave the rest alone. As for the lad, a lot will depend on who the new goalkeeping coach is. If he's happy and feels 'loved' he's likely to stay somewhere that offers a realistic chance of competitive action. And from what The Argus says about his current preference, I like the cut of his gib! (Even if he does look like Peter Crouch's lovechild...) Albion In Staffs
  • Score: -6

12:42pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Good news on here
1 the excitement on Merseyside at Sami's appointment. Expect a few Liverpool players coming here.
2 Casper is well respected and a good influence in the dressing room. Have met him a couple of times in passing and seems a good bloke.
3 Christian Walton wants to develop his career with us. This makes sense. If he is patient he'll be our número uno within 2 years. Looks like his Dad has got £ signs in front of his eyes. He should perhaps take a back seat (putting it politely)
And finally why hasn't Sami signed any players yet.(only joking) Thought I'd get that one in before the usual moaners did. UTA
Good news on here 1 the excitement on Merseyside at Sami's appointment. Expect a few Liverpool players coming here. 2 Casper is well respected and a good influence in the dressing room. Have met him a couple of times in passing and seems a good bloke. 3 Christian Walton wants to develop his career with us. This makes sense. If he is patient he'll be our número uno within 2 years. Looks like his Dad has got £ signs in front of his eyes. He should perhaps take a back seat (putting it politely) And finally why hasn't Sami signed any players yet.(only joking) Thought I'd get that one in before the usual moaners did. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 7

12:51pm Wed 11 Jun 14

rolivan says...

Is his dad his Agent?
Is his dad his Agent? rolivan
  • Score: 5

1:05pm Wed 11 Jun 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

farside wrote:
He only has to look at Jack Butland for an example that the grass is rarely greener........
Number two to Bialkowski this season with Anks taking on the coaching role??? Maybe.
Far side- Is Bialkowski on your wish list or is there something you know on the grapevine? I have not come across him but his cv looks good on Wiki and maybe a deal may be done with Notts County? Anyway your suggestion looks very sound to me!
[quote][p][bold]farside[/bold] wrote: He only has to look at Jack Butland for an example that the grass is rarely greener........ Number two to Bialkowski this season with Anks taking on the coaching role??? Maybe.[/p][/quote]Far side- Is Bialkowski on your wish list or is there something you know on the grapevine? I have not come across him but his cv looks good on Wiki and maybe a deal may be done with Notts County? Anyway your suggestion looks very sound to me! SeagullOverSelsey
  • Score: 0

1:24pm Wed 11 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

If the lad was even thinking of leaving, which it seems he is not, and if the choice he had to make was, Arsenal or City, I think the City offer would die on the table, Wenger has a proven track record of developing players and has done so for a number of years.

Walton, at the tender age of 18 as first choice keeper for the coming season, possible, Ankergren as #2, likely, do we have a DS lad to take on the role of third choice?
With TK having not, as yet, found a new home I guess it's possible that he could return making Walton second choice and Anks third, that might actually be better for Walton, training along side TK would surely benefit the lad.
Christian joined us in Feb 2013 on a three year deal, if he is promoted to the number two spot then yeah, give the lad a new contract.
If the lad was even thinking of leaving, which it seems he is not, and if the choice he had to make was, Arsenal or City, I think the City offer would die on the table, Wenger has a proven track record of developing players and has done so for a number of years. Walton, at the tender age of 18 as first choice keeper for the coming season, possible, Ankergren as #2, likely, do we have a DS lad to take on the role of third choice? With TK having not, as yet, found a new home I guess it's possible that he could return making Walton second choice and Anks third, that might actually be better for Walton, training along side TK would surely benefit the lad. Christian joined us in Feb 2013 on a three year deal, if he is promoted to the number two spot then yeah, give the lad a new contract. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -1

1:32pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Claude Back says...

Albion fan in London wrote:
He is in the best place to develop and should be our no2 next season. This is the start of things to come. It tremendous that we have players coming through at national standard. Whose to say we wont have Brighton players playing in the next 2-3 world cups!
The England manager? ;-)
[quote][p][bold]Albion fan in London[/bold] wrote: He is in the best place to develop and should be our no2 next season. This is the start of things to come. It tremendous that we have players coming through at national standard. Whose to say we wont have Brighton players playing in the next 2-3 world cups![/p][/quote]The England manager? ;-) Claude Back
  • Score: 6

1:42pm Wed 11 Jun 14

mikeygit says...

It would be good for the lad to get a chance to be No 1 next season. Give it to him, I say, if he makes blunders go to Plan B--whatever that may be. As to his father, maybe a bit of gamesmanship to get Albion to give the lad the No1 spot? But as said he does have to be careful. how much talk is paper talk and how much IS the Dad we do not know.
As to going to a big club, the prospects of getting into the 1st team squad would no doubt be slim unless he really shone---the grass may be greener on the other side but at the same time, far more difficult to mow!!
It would be good for the lad to get a chance to be No 1 next season. Give it to him, I say, if he makes blunders go to Plan B--whatever that may be. As to his father, maybe a bit of gamesmanship to get Albion to give the lad the No1 spot? But as said he does have to be careful. how much talk is paper talk and how much IS the Dad we do not know. As to going to a big club, the prospects of getting into the 1st team squad would no doubt be slim unless he really shone---the grass may be greener on the other side but at the same time, far more difficult to mow!! mikeygit
  • Score: 2

1:55pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Steyning reject says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
If the lad was even thinking of leaving, which it seems he is not, and if the choice he had to make was, Arsenal or City, I think the City offer would die on the table, Wenger has a proven track record of developing players and has done so for a number of years.

Walton, at the tender age of 18 as first choice keeper for the coming season, possible, Ankergren as #2, likely, do we have a DS lad to take on the role of third choice?
With TK having not, as yet, found a new home I guess it's possible that he could return making Walton second choice and Anks third, that might actually be better for Walton, training along side TK would surely benefit the lad.
Christian joined us in Feb 2013 on a three year deal, if he is promoted to the number two spot then yeah, give the lad a new contract.
Brighton are reported to have offered a contract to Harry Doherty of Chalton last month who is being released (he has played for the Irish U18's) to join the development squad, not sure if he did sign or not.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: If the lad was even thinking of leaving, which it seems he is not, and if the choice he had to make was, Arsenal or City, I think the City offer would die on the table, Wenger has a proven track record of developing players and has done so for a number of years. Walton, at the tender age of 18 as first choice keeper for the coming season, possible, Ankergren as #2, likely, do we have a DS lad to take on the role of third choice? With TK having not, as yet, found a new home I guess it's possible that he could return making Walton second choice and Anks third, that might actually be better for Walton, training along side TK would surely benefit the lad. Christian joined us in Feb 2013 on a three year deal, if he is promoted to the number two spot then yeah, give the lad a new contract.[/p][/quote]Brighton are reported to have offered a contract to Harry Doherty of Chalton last month who is being released (he has played for the Irish U18's) to join the development squad, not sure if he did sign or not. Steyning reject
  • Score: 2

1:56pm Wed 11 Jun 14

ballantrrae says...

arc12 wrote:
He should be our number 1 this season. He must have his chance and it would save the cost of trying to buy in another keeper. We must go with youth this season IMO.
We would need a third GK anyway even if Walton were our No 1.
[quote][p][bold]arc12[/bold] wrote: He should be our number 1 this season. He must have his chance and it would save the cost of trying to buy in another keeper. We must go with youth this season IMO.[/p][/quote]We would need a third GK anyway even if Walton were our No 1. ballantrrae
  • Score: 1

2:00pm Wed 11 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

mikeygit wrote:
It would be good for the lad to get a chance to be No 1 next season. Give it to him, I say, if he makes blunders go to Plan B--whatever that may be. As to his father, maybe a bit of gamesmanship to get Albion to give the lad the No1 spot? But as said he does have to be careful. how much talk is paper talk and how much IS the Dad we do not know.
As to going to a big club, the prospects of getting into the 1st team squad would no doubt be slim unless he really shone---the grass may be greener on the other side but at the same time, far more difficult to mow!!
With every point gained or lost meaning so much to the big clubs, or any club,
in the prem Div, can you really see Walton starting for any of those clubs at this stage in his development?
If any of the top clubs were to buy him it would be a long term signing and not one for today, IMHO. Bought and sent out on loan back in our division or maybe lower, to a place where he will get playing time.
If Walton has some common sense, which I think he does, he should know that being our number two keeper for this coming season, standing between the sticks for every cup match, and being ready if called upon for the first team, will serve him better than being 4th choice at any club, no matter who they are.
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: It would be good for the lad to get a chance to be No 1 next season. Give it to him, I say, if he makes blunders go to Plan B--whatever that may be. As to his father, maybe a bit of gamesmanship to get Albion to give the lad the No1 spot? But as said he does have to be careful. how much talk is paper talk and how much IS the Dad we do not know. As to going to a big club, the prospects of getting into the 1st team squad would no doubt be slim unless he really shone---the grass may be greener on the other side but at the same time, far more difficult to mow!![/p][/quote]With every point gained or lost meaning so much to the big clubs, or any club, in the prem Div, can you really see Walton starting for any of those clubs at this stage in his development? If any of the top clubs were to buy him it would be a long term signing and not one for today, IMHO. Bought and sent out on loan back in our division or maybe lower, to a place where he will get playing time. If Walton has some common sense, which I think he does, he should know that being our number two keeper for this coming season, standing between the sticks for every cup match, and being ready if called upon for the first team, will serve him better than being 4th choice at any club, no matter who they are. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

2:02pm Wed 11 Jun 14

mark by the sea says...

Thing with playing Walton now is he could fall flat on his face if he is not ready.
That would mean his confidence was shot, and his value would be zero, so because he is England 18s , his future is not set in stone! For me if man city offered 1m then take it , with option to loan back and a further 1m if he plays for the England first team, something slightly easier than getting into man city first team.
Thing with playing Walton now is he could fall flat on his face if he is not ready. That would mean his confidence was shot, and his value would be zero, so because he is England 18s , his future is not set in stone! For me if man city offered 1m then take it , with option to loan back and a further 1m if he plays for the England first team, something slightly easier than getting into man city first team. mark by the sea
  • Score: -3

2:04pm Wed 11 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

Steyning reject wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
If the lad was even thinking of leaving, which it seems he is not, and if the choice he had to make was, Arsenal or City, I think the City offer would die on the table, Wenger has a proven track record of developing players and has done so for a number of years.

Walton, at the tender age of 18 as first choice keeper for the coming season, possible, Ankergren as #2, likely, do we have a DS lad to take on the role of third choice?
With TK having not, as yet, found a new home I guess it's possible that he could return making Walton second choice and Anks third, that might actually be better for Walton, training along side TK would surely benefit the lad.
Christian joined us in Feb 2013 on a three year deal, if he is promoted to the number two spot then yeah, give the lad a new contract.
Brighton are reported to have offered a contract to Harry Doherty of Chalton last month who is being released (he has played for the Irish U18's) to join the development squad, not sure if he did sign or not.
thanks for that info, I missed that one. I would guess the lad didn't sign because if he had, we woud know about it by now.
[quote][p][bold]Steyning reject[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: If the lad was even thinking of leaving, which it seems he is not, and if the choice he had to make was, Arsenal or City, I think the City offer would die on the table, Wenger has a proven track record of developing players and has done so for a number of years. Walton, at the tender age of 18 as first choice keeper for the coming season, possible, Ankergren as #2, likely, do we have a DS lad to take on the role of third choice? With TK having not, as yet, found a new home I guess it's possible that he could return making Walton second choice and Anks third, that might actually be better for Walton, training along side TK would surely benefit the lad. Christian joined us in Feb 2013 on a three year deal, if he is promoted to the number two spot then yeah, give the lad a new contract.[/p][/quote]Brighton are reported to have offered a contract to Harry Doherty of Chalton last month who is being released (he has played for the Irish U18's) to join the development squad, not sure if he did sign or not.[/p][/quote]thanks for that info, I missed that one. I would guess the lad didn't sign because if he had, we woud know about it by now. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -2

2:10pm Wed 11 Jun 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
mikeygit wrote:
It would be good for the lad to get a chance to be No 1 next season. Give it to him, I say, if he makes blunders go to Plan B--whatever that may be. As to his father, maybe a bit of gamesmanship to get Albion to give the lad the No1 spot? But as said he does have to be careful. how much talk is paper talk and how much IS the Dad we do not know.
As to going to a big club, the prospects of getting into the 1st team squad would no doubt be slim unless he really shone---the grass may be greener on the other side but at the same time, far more difficult to mow!!
With every point gained or lost meaning so much to the big clubs, or any club,
in the prem Div, can you really see Walton starting for any of those clubs at this stage in his development?
If any of the top clubs were to buy him it would be a long term signing and not one for today, IMHO. Bought and sent out on loan back in our division or maybe lower, to a place where he will get playing time.
If Walton has some common sense, which I think he does, he should know that being our number two keeper for this coming season, standing between the sticks for every cup match, and being ready if called upon for the first team, will serve him better than being 4th choice at any club, no matter who they are.
I'if Walton has some common sense which you think he does'
Do you know him Vegas? Or from what evidence have you that he has common sense? WAFFLE ALERT
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: It would be good for the lad to get a chance to be No 1 next season. Give it to him, I say, if he makes blunders go to Plan B--whatever that may be. As to his father, maybe a bit of gamesmanship to get Albion to give the lad the No1 spot? But as said he does have to be careful. how much talk is paper talk and how much IS the Dad we do not know. As to going to a big club, the prospects of getting into the 1st team squad would no doubt be slim unless he really shone---the grass may be greener on the other side but at the same time, far more difficult to mow!![/p][/quote]With every point gained or lost meaning so much to the big clubs, or any club, in the prem Div, can you really see Walton starting for any of those clubs at this stage in his development? If any of the top clubs were to buy him it would be a long term signing and not one for today, IMHO. Bought and sent out on loan back in our division or maybe lower, to a place where he will get playing time. If Walton has some common sense, which I think he does, he should know that being our number two keeper for this coming season, standing between the sticks for every cup match, and being ready if called upon for the first team, will serve him better than being 4th choice at any club, no matter who they are.[/p][/quote]I'if Walton has some common sense which you think he does' Do you know him Vegas? Or from what evidence have you that he has common sense? WAFFLE ALERT mark by the sea
  • Score: -6

2:12pm Wed 11 Jun 14

JeffLomer says...

Steyning reject wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
If the lad was even thinking of leaving, which it seems he is not, and if the choice he had to make was, Arsenal or City, I think the City offer would die on the table, Wenger has a proven track record of developing players and has done so for a number of years.

Walton, at the tender age of 18 as first choice keeper for the coming season, possible, Ankergren as #2, likely, do we have a DS lad to take on the role of third choice?
With TK having not, as yet, found a new home I guess it's possible that he could return making Walton second choice and Anks third, that might actually be better for Walton, training along side TK would surely benefit the lad.
Christian joined us in Feb 2013 on a three year deal, if he is promoted to the number two spot then yeah, give the lad a new contract.
Brighton are reported to have offered a contract to Harry Doherty of Chalton last month who is being released (he has played for the Irish U18's) to join the development squad, not sure if he did sign or not.
He signed a one year contract,
[quote][p][bold]Steyning reject[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: If the lad was even thinking of leaving, which it seems he is not, and if the choice he had to make was, Arsenal or City, I think the City offer would die on the table, Wenger has a proven track record of developing players and has done so for a number of years. Walton, at the tender age of 18 as first choice keeper for the coming season, possible, Ankergren as #2, likely, do we have a DS lad to take on the role of third choice? With TK having not, as yet, found a new home I guess it's possible that he could return making Walton second choice and Anks third, that might actually be better for Walton, training along side TK would surely benefit the lad. Christian joined us in Feb 2013 on a three year deal, if he is promoted to the number two spot then yeah, give the lad a new contract.[/p][/quote]Brighton are reported to have offered a contract to Harry Doherty of Chalton last month who is being released (he has played for the Irish U18's) to join the development squad, not sure if he did sign or not.[/p][/quote]He signed a one year contract, JeffLomer
  • Score: 2

2:21pm Wed 11 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
mikeygit wrote:
It would be good for the lad to get a chance to be No 1 next season. Give it to him, I say, if he makes blunders go to Plan B--whatever that may be. As to his father, maybe a bit of gamesmanship to get Albion to give the lad the No1 spot? But as said he does have to be careful. how much talk is paper talk and how much IS the Dad we do not know.
As to going to a big club, the prospects of getting into the 1st team squad would no doubt be slim unless he really shone---the grass may be greener on the other side but at the same time, far more difficult to mow!!
With every point gained or lost meaning so much to the big clubs, or any club,
in the prem Div, can you really see Walton starting for any of those clubs at this stage in his development?
If any of the top clubs were to buy him it would be a long term signing and not one for today, IMHO. Bought and sent out on loan back in our division or maybe lower, to a place where he will get playing time.
If Walton has some common sense, which I think he does, he should know that being our number two keeper for this coming season, standing between the sticks for every cup match, and being ready if called upon for the first team, will serve him better than being 4th choice at any club, no matter who they are.
I'if Walton has some common sense which you think he does'
Do you know him Vegas? Or from what evidence have you that he has common sense? WAFFLE ALERT
you know Mark, you would make a good politician, when they have nothing of substance to say they revert to making pityful attacks on others.
The first couple of paragraphs of the above article suggests to me that the lad is showing some common sense, of course they might not to you, but then you so often see the negative in any article, don't you.

Troll away Mark, you are getting quite good at it, not quite up there with Ring Tone, but pretty close.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: It would be good for the lad to get a chance to be No 1 next season. Give it to him, I say, if he makes blunders go to Plan B--whatever that may be. As to his father, maybe a bit of gamesmanship to get Albion to give the lad the No1 spot? But as said he does have to be careful. how much talk is paper talk and how much IS the Dad we do not know. As to going to a big club, the prospects of getting into the 1st team squad would no doubt be slim unless he really shone---the grass may be greener on the other side but at the same time, far more difficult to mow!![/p][/quote]With every point gained or lost meaning so much to the big clubs, or any club, in the prem Div, can you really see Walton starting for any of those clubs at this stage in his development? If any of the top clubs were to buy him it would be a long term signing and not one for today, IMHO. Bought and sent out on loan back in our division or maybe lower, to a place where he will get playing time. If Walton has some common sense, which I think he does, he should know that being our number two keeper for this coming season, standing between the sticks for every cup match, and being ready if called upon for the first team, will serve him better than being 4th choice at any club, no matter who they are.[/p][/quote]I'if Walton has some common sense which you think he does' Do you know him Vegas? Or from what evidence have you that he has common sense? WAFFLE ALERT[/p][/quote]you know Mark, you would make a good politician, when they have nothing of substance to say they revert to making pityful attacks on others. The first couple of paragraphs of the above article suggests to me that the lad is showing some common sense, of course they might not to you, but then you so often see the negative in any article, don't you. Troll away Mark, you are getting quite good at it, not quite up there with Ring Tone, but pretty close. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 5

2:22pm Wed 11 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Steyning reject wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
If the lad was even thinking of leaving, which it seems he is not, and if the choice he had to make was, Arsenal or City, I think the City offer would die on the table, Wenger has a proven track record of developing players and has done so for a number of years.

Walton, at the tender age of 18 as first choice keeper for the coming season, possible, Ankergren as #2, likely, do we have a DS lad to take on the role of third choice?
With TK having not, as yet, found a new home I guess it's possible that he could return making Walton second choice and Anks third, that might actually be better for Walton, training along side TK would surely benefit the lad.
Christian joined us in Feb 2013 on a three year deal, if he is promoted to the number two spot then yeah, give the lad a new contract.
Brighton are reported to have offered a contract to Harry Doherty of Chalton last month who is being released (he has played for the Irish U18's) to join the development squad, not sure if he did sign or not.
He signed a one year contract,
thanks Jeff
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steyning reject[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: If the lad was even thinking of leaving, which it seems he is not, and if the choice he had to make was, Arsenal or City, I think the City offer would die on the table, Wenger has a proven track record of developing players and has done so for a number of years. Walton, at the tender age of 18 as first choice keeper for the coming season, possible, Ankergren as #2, likely, do we have a DS lad to take on the role of third choice? With TK having not, as yet, found a new home I guess it's possible that he could return making Walton second choice and Anks third, that might actually be better for Walton, training along side TK would surely benefit the lad. Christian joined us in Feb 2013 on a three year deal, if he is promoted to the number two spot then yeah, give the lad a new contract.[/p][/quote]Brighton are reported to have offered a contract to Harry Doherty of Chalton last month who is being released (he has played for the Irish U18's) to join the development squad, not sure if he did sign or not.[/p][/quote]He signed a one year contract,[/p][/quote]thanks Jeff VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

2:22pm Wed 11 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Steyning reject wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
If the lad was even thinking of leaving, which it seems he is not, and if the choice he had to make was, Arsenal or City, I think the City offer would die on the table, Wenger has a proven track record of developing players and has done so for a number of years.

Walton, at the tender age of 18 as first choice keeper for the coming season, possible, Ankergren as #2, likely, do we have a DS lad to take on the role of third choice?
With TK having not, as yet, found a new home I guess it's possible that he could return making Walton second choice and Anks third, that might actually be better for Walton, training along side TK would surely benefit the lad.
Christian joined us in Feb 2013 on a three year deal, if he is promoted to the number two spot then yeah, give the lad a new contract.
Brighton are reported to have offered a contract to Harry Doherty of Chalton last month who is being released (he has played for the Irish U18's) to join the development squad, not sure if he did sign or not.
He signed a one year contract,
thanks Jeff
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steyning reject[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: If the lad was even thinking of leaving, which it seems he is not, and if the choice he had to make was, Arsenal or City, I think the City offer would die on the table, Wenger has a proven track record of developing players and has done so for a number of years. Walton, at the tender age of 18 as first choice keeper for the coming season, possible, Ankergren as #2, likely, do we have a DS lad to take on the role of third choice? With TK having not, as yet, found a new home I guess it's possible that he could return making Walton second choice and Anks third, that might actually be better for Walton, training along side TK would surely benefit the lad. Christian joined us in Feb 2013 on a three year deal, if he is promoted to the number two spot then yeah, give the lad a new contract.[/p][/quote]Brighton are reported to have offered a contract to Harry Doherty of Chalton last month who is being released (he has played for the Irish U18's) to join the development squad, not sure if he did sign or not.[/p][/quote]He signed a one year contract,[/p][/quote]thanks Jeff VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

2:47pm Wed 11 Jun 14

JeffLomer says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Thing with playing Walton now is he could fall flat on his face if he is not ready.
That would mean his confidence was shot, and his value would be zero, so because he is England 18s , his future is not set in stone! For me if man city offered 1m then take it , with option to loan back and a further 1m if he plays for the England first team, something slightly easier than getting into man city first team.
One million if he plays for England first team, slightly easier than playing for city first team, how's that work, surely you need to be playing to be considered for England games, unless I miss read what you wrote!!
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Thing with playing Walton now is he could fall flat on his face if he is not ready. That would mean his confidence was shot, and his value would be zero, so because he is England 18s , his future is not set in stone! For me if man city offered 1m then take it , with option to loan back and a further 1m if he plays for the England first team, something slightly easier than getting into man city first team.[/p][/quote]One million if he plays for England first team, slightly easier than playing for city first team, how's that work, surely you need to be playing to be considered for England games, unless I miss read what you wrote!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 0

2:47pm Wed 11 Jun 14

JeffLomer says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Thing with playing Walton now is he could fall flat on his face if he is not ready.
That would mean his confidence was shot, and his value would be zero, so because he is England 18s , his future is not set in stone! For me if man city offered 1m then take it , with option to loan back and a further 1m if he plays for the England first team, something slightly easier than getting into man city first team.
One million if he plays for England first team, slightly easier than playing for city first team, how's that work, surely you need to be playing to be considered for England games, unless I miss read what you wrote!!
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Thing with playing Walton now is he could fall flat on his face if he is not ready. That would mean his confidence was shot, and his value would be zero, so because he is England 18s , his future is not set in stone! For me if man city offered 1m then take it , with option to loan back and a further 1m if he plays for the England first team, something slightly easier than getting into man city first team.[/p][/quote]One million if he plays for England first team, slightly easier than playing for city first team, how's that work, surely you need to be playing to be considered for England games, unless I miss read what you wrote!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 0

2:52pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Neville says...

Just to advise'Sky just announced Man City penalties under FFP have been watered down after appeal thru lawyers etc,what a joke!
Just to advise'Sky just announced Man City penalties under FFP have been watered down after appeal thru lawyers etc,what a joke! Neville
  • Score: 2

3:05pm Wed 11 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

Neville wrote:
Just to advise'Sky just announced Man City penalties under FFP have been watered down after appeal thru lawyers etc,what a joke!
any details Neville?
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Just to advise'Sky just announced Man City penalties under FFP have been watered down after appeal thru lawyers etc,what a joke![/p][/quote]any details Neville? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

3:06pm Wed 11 Jun 14

gordongull says...

What if it was a question of the Club being given an ultimatum, - ''Either I'm number one, or I'm going''. Would the prospect of losing a talent with such potential be more damaging than risking throwing him in at the deep end, in order to keep him at the Club?
This season is going to be transitional, and if our younger players are the future, they need to be integrated into the first team, as happened last season. If Christian has the ability and confidence to play at Championship level, there is no better place to get the experience that he needs.
We will be kicking off the new season with a redesigned team, so are unlikely to be setting the pace at the top end of of the table. The early part of the season could be seen as a work in progress, preparing ourselves for a sustained challenge in the New Year.
There will be an opportunity in January to make adjustments if it doesn't go to plan.
If success in the future depends on our young players, we might have to play them.
What if it was a question of the Club being given an ultimatum, - ''Either I'm number one, or I'm going''. Would the prospect of losing a talent with such potential be more damaging than risking throwing him in at the deep end, in order to keep him at the Club? This season is going to be transitional, and if our younger players are the future, they need to be integrated into the first team, as happened last season. If Christian has the ability and confidence to play at Championship level, there is no better place to get the experience that he needs. We will be kicking off the new season with a redesigned team, so are unlikely to be setting the pace at the top end of of the table. The early part of the season could be seen as a work in progress, preparing ourselves for a sustained challenge in the New Year. There will be an opportunity in January to make adjustments if it doesn't go to plan. If success in the future depends on our young players, we might have to play them. gordongull
  • Score: 1

3:12pm Wed 11 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Neville wrote:
Just to advise'Sky just announced Man City penalties under FFP have been watered down after appeal thru lawyers etc,what a joke!
any details Neville?
scratch that Neville, I just found an article on this subject.

It seems that the only real reduction in the penalty as imposed, is that City will now only have to inlcude five home grown players instead of eight, helpful yes, but the other components of the punishment appear to remain in place, or am I reading that wrong?
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Just to advise'Sky just announced Man City penalties under FFP have been watered down after appeal thru lawyers etc,what a joke![/p][/quote]any details Neville?[/p][/quote]scratch that Neville, I just found an article on this subject. It seems that the only real reduction in the penalty as imposed, is that City will now only have to inlcude five home grown players instead of eight, helpful yes, but the other components of the punishment appear to remain in place, or am I reading that wrong? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

3:18pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

rolivan wrote:
Is his dad his Agent?
Good question. Let's consider the evidence shall we?

If the theme of the report is accurate and these words are coming from Pa Walton's lips then he seems to be getting a tad ahead of himself. Short term gain of higher wages with a top Prem club... kudos of being able to say "my son is a keeper at ManC (or Arsenal or whoever). Fine if that's all he ever wants Christian to be, but if left alone to come through our ranks there is every suggestion that he will play (at least) some first team football in the coming season. His profile will thereby be raised higher than at present. If successful between our sticks the likelihood is that he will be playing first team football in the Prem League before very long - if you believe as I do that we will get there in the next 2 or 3 years. Succeed with us and his international career may well not be restricted to the junior levels. Go to ManC or the @rse and he will likely disappear into the ranks of the multitude of players with great promise who are only heard of when they are playing elsewhere on loan.

So is Pa Walton Christian's agent? He seems to see the money side before all else and doesn't seem to put Christian's long term development first. Either that or he hasn't really grasped the best form of career progression in football. So to answer my own (and others') question, I don't know but he seems to have all the attributes of a short sighted, self centred, money grabbing agent!!

Leave him alone Pa and let him mature with an up and coming club whose facilities are second to none now and one day you might just be glad you did as you proudly watch him between the sticks at Wembley playing senior football for his country!

Okay, maybe my specs are rose tinted... but isn't that what being an Albion fan really should be all about?!

UTA!!
[quote][p][bold]rolivan[/bold] wrote: Is his dad his Agent?[/p][/quote]Good question. Let's consider the evidence shall we? If the theme of the report is accurate and these words are coming from Pa Walton's lips then he seems to be getting a tad ahead of himself. Short term gain of higher wages with a top Prem club... kudos of being able to say "my son is a keeper at ManC (or Arsenal or whoever). Fine if that's all he ever wants Christian to be, but if left alone to come through our ranks there is every suggestion that he will play (at least) some first team football in the coming season. His profile will thereby be raised higher than at present. If successful between our sticks the likelihood is that he will be playing first team football in the Prem League before very long - if you believe as I do that we will get there in the next 2 or 3 years. Succeed with us and his international career may well not be restricted to the junior levels. Go to ManC or the @rse and he will likely disappear into the ranks of the multitude of players with great promise who are only heard of when they are playing elsewhere on loan. So is Pa Walton Christian's agent? He seems to see the money side before all else and doesn't seem to put Christian's long term development first. Either that or he hasn't really grasped the best form of career progression in football. So to answer my own (and others') question, I don't know but he seems to have all the attributes of a short sighted, self centred, money grabbing agent!! Leave him alone Pa and let him mature with an up and coming club whose facilities are second to none now and one day you might just be glad you did as you proudly watch him between the sticks at Wembley playing senior football for his country! Okay, maybe my specs are rose tinted... but isn't that what being an Albion fan really should be all about?! UTA!! Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 2

3:23pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Neville says...

Hi Vegas
Not had chance to go into further but appeal was from the players union which EUFA have allowed.
Hi Vegas Not had chance to go into further but appeal was from the players union which EUFA have allowed. Neville
  • Score: 1

3:34pm Wed 11 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

Neville wrote:
Hi Vegas
Not had chance to go into further but appeal was from the players union which EUFA have allowed.
Hi Neville, yeah I found an article reporting what has transpired, if you scroll back a little you will see my reply.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Hi Vegas Not had chance to go into further but appeal was from the players union which EUFA have allowed.[/p][/quote]Hi Neville, yeah I found an article reporting what has transpired, if you scroll back a little you will see my reply. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

4:42pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Cockwomble says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
mikeygit wrote:
It would be good for the lad to get a chance to be No 1 next season. Give it to him, I say, if he makes blunders go to Plan B--whatever that may be. As to his father, maybe a bit of gamesmanship to get Albion to give the lad the No1 spot? But as said he does have to be careful. how much talk is paper talk and how much IS the Dad we do not know.
As to going to a big club, the prospects of getting into the 1st team squad would no doubt be slim unless he really shone---the grass may be greener on the other side but at the same time, far more difficult to mow!!
With every point gained or lost meaning so much to the big clubs, or any club,
in the prem Div, can you really see Walton starting for any of those clubs at this stage in his development?
If any of the top clubs were to buy him it would be a long term signing and not one for today, IMHO. Bought and sent out on loan back in our division or maybe lower, to a place where he will get playing time.
If Walton has some common sense, which I think he does, he should know that being our number two keeper for this coming season, standing between the sticks for every cup match, and being ready if called upon for the first team, will serve him better than being 4th choice at any club, no matter who they are.
I'if Walton has some common sense which you think he does'
Do you know him Vegas? Or from what evidence have you that he has common sense? WAFFLE ALERT
he who has never sinned cast the first stone.or always assume someone has common sense unless he shows otherwise.play nice.dont bully.be kind.cockwomble
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: It would be good for the lad to get a chance to be No 1 next season. Give it to him, I say, if he makes blunders go to Plan B--whatever that may be. As to his father, maybe a bit of gamesmanship to get Albion to give the lad the No1 spot? But as said he does have to be careful. how much talk is paper talk and how much IS the Dad we do not know. As to going to a big club, the prospects of getting into the 1st team squad would no doubt be slim unless he really shone---the grass may be greener on the other side but at the same time, far more difficult to mow!![/p][/quote]With every point gained or lost meaning so much to the big clubs, or any club, in the prem Div, can you really see Walton starting for any of those clubs at this stage in his development? If any of the top clubs were to buy him it would be a long term signing and not one for today, IMHO. Bought and sent out on loan back in our division or maybe lower, to a place where he will get playing time. If Walton has some common sense, which I think he does, he should know that being our number two keeper for this coming season, standing between the sticks for every cup match, and being ready if called upon for the first team, will serve him better than being 4th choice at any club, no matter who they are.[/p][/quote]I'if Walton has some common sense which you think he does' Do you know him Vegas? Or from what evidence have you that he has common sense? WAFFLE ALERT[/p][/quote]he who has never sinned cast the first stone.or always assume someone has common sense unless he shows otherwise.play nice.dont bully.be kind.cockwomble Cockwomble
  • Score: 3

4:45pm Wed 11 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

Nothing to do with any article, well not directly that is but, do any of your guys think that we might choose to have a smaller squad this coming season?

Ince has done really well in the mid-field, but might Hyypia consider him for one of the center back roles, adding him to Greer and Dunk. Bruno and Calde have the right back spot sewn up, Chicksen and Maksi the left side.
We have the new lad, Stephens, JFC, Crofts and Kemmy, if he gets down to work, so the mid-field is not looking bad. Solly, Kaz and Buckley give us some wide options and Ulloa and CMS up front.

Now if we were to add three loanees, a striker, center back and a creative mid-fielder, maybe just the left side of defense just needs a tad more, maybe not. Of course our keeper situation needs addressing, but I am just thinking about out-fielders.

Could those I have mentioned, along with three loanees, get us thru to the january window with a respectable place in the table?
Nothing to do with any article, well not directly that is but, do any of your guys think that we might choose to have a smaller squad this coming season? Ince has done really well in the mid-field, but might Hyypia consider him for one of the center back roles, adding him to Greer and Dunk. Bruno and Calde have the right back spot sewn up, Chicksen and Maksi the left side. We have the new lad, Stephens, JFC, Crofts and Kemmy, if he gets down to work, so the mid-field is not looking bad. Solly, Kaz and Buckley give us some wide options and Ulloa and CMS up front. Now if we were to add three loanees, a striker, center back and a creative mid-fielder, maybe just the left side of defense just needs a tad more, maybe not. Of course our keeper situation needs addressing, but I am just thinking about out-fielders. Could those I have mentioned, along with three loanees, get us thru to the january window with a respectable place in the table? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

4:51pm Wed 11 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

It is being reported that Leicester have given up the chase for Ulloa, apparently we wanted between 7.5 and 10 million, and they are no longer interested, not at that price.
It is being reported that Leicester have given up the chase for Ulloa, apparently we wanted between 7.5 and 10 million, and they are no longer interested, not at that price. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

5:05pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Cockwomble says...

http://www.first4lcf
c.co.uk/blog/city-ce
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ted-striker/
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http://www.first4lcf c.co.uk/blog/city-ce ase-chase-for-10m-ra ted-striker/ cockwombles Cockwomble
  • Score: 1

5:09pm Wed 11 Jun 14

farside says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Nothing to do with any article, well not directly that is but, do any of your guys think that we might choose to have a smaller squad this coming season?

Ince has done really well in the mid-field, but might Hyypia consider him for one of the center back roles, adding him to Greer and Dunk. Bruno and Calde have the right back spot sewn up, Chicksen and Maksi the left side.
We have the new lad, Stephens, JFC, Crofts and Kemmy, if he gets down to work, so the mid-field is not looking bad. Solly, Kaz and Buckley give us some wide options and Ulloa and CMS up front.

Now if we were to add three loanees, a striker, center back and a creative mid-fielder, maybe just the left side of defense just needs a tad more, maybe not. Of course our keeper situation needs addressing, but I am just thinking about out-fielders.

Could those I have mentioned, along with three loanees, get us thru to the january window with a respectable place in the table?
I promise you Ince is a very mediocre centre back whose career prospects have been made by the move to defensive midfield.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Nothing to do with any article, well not directly that is but, do any of your guys think that we might choose to have a smaller squad this coming season? Ince has done really well in the mid-field, but might Hyypia consider him for one of the center back roles, adding him to Greer and Dunk. Bruno and Calde have the right back spot sewn up, Chicksen and Maksi the left side. We have the new lad, Stephens, JFC, Crofts and Kemmy, if he gets down to work, so the mid-field is not looking bad. Solly, Kaz and Buckley give us some wide options and Ulloa and CMS up front. Now if we were to add three loanees, a striker, center back and a creative mid-fielder, maybe just the left side of defense just needs a tad more, maybe not. Of course our keeper situation needs addressing, but I am just thinking about out-fielders. Could those I have mentioned, along with three loanees, get us thru to the january window with a respectable place in the table?[/p][/quote]I promise you Ince is a very mediocre centre back whose career prospects have been made by the move to defensive midfield. farside
  • Score: 2

5:20pm Wed 11 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

farside wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Nothing to do with any article, well not directly that is but, do any of your guys think that we might choose to have a smaller squad this coming season?

Ince has done really well in the mid-field, but might Hyypia consider him for one of the center back roles, adding him to Greer and Dunk. Bruno and Calde have the right back spot sewn up, Chicksen and Maksi the left side.
We have the new lad, Stephens, JFC, Crofts and Kemmy, if he gets down to work, so the mid-field is not looking bad. Solly, Kaz and Buckley give us some wide options and Ulloa and CMS up front.

Now if we were to add three loanees, a striker, center back and a creative mid-fielder, maybe just the left side of defense just needs a tad more, maybe not. Of course our keeper situation needs addressing, but I am just thinking about out-fielders.

Could those I have mentioned, along with three loanees, get us thru to the january window with a respectable place in the table?
I promise you Ince is a very mediocre centre back whose career prospects have been made by the move to defensive midfield.
yep I am sure that you are right, but with Hyypia being who he is, I just wondered. Even allowing for us keep Ince in his current role, that could still mean that we could have a smaller squad.

I can't help feeling that the exit door has not been firmly shut just yet, not sure why or who, just a gut feeling.
[quote][p][bold]farside[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Nothing to do with any article, well not directly that is but, do any of your guys think that we might choose to have a smaller squad this coming season? Ince has done really well in the mid-field, but might Hyypia consider him for one of the center back roles, adding him to Greer and Dunk. Bruno and Calde have the right back spot sewn up, Chicksen and Maksi the left side. We have the new lad, Stephens, JFC, Crofts and Kemmy, if he gets down to work, so the mid-field is not looking bad. Solly, Kaz and Buckley give us some wide options and Ulloa and CMS up front. Now if we were to add three loanees, a striker, center back and a creative mid-fielder, maybe just the left side of defense just needs a tad more, maybe not. Of course our keeper situation needs addressing, but I am just thinking about out-fielders. Could those I have mentioned, along with three loanees, get us thru to the january window with a respectable place in the table?[/p][/quote]I promise you Ince is a very mediocre centre back whose career prospects have been made by the move to defensive midfield.[/p][/quote]yep I am sure that you are right, but with Hyypia being who he is, I just wondered. Even allowing for us keep Ince in his current role, that could still mean that we could have a smaller squad. I can't help feeling that the exit door has not been firmly shut just yet, not sure why or who, just a gut feeling. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -1

5:30pm Wed 11 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

I watched the Ireland V Portugal game yesterday, Ward didn't have a bad game, got caught out of position a couple of times, and then went off injured in the second half. Looked like an injury to his arm.
I watched the Ireland V Portugal game yesterday, Ward didn't have a bad game, got caught out of position a couple of times, and then went off injured in the second half. Looked like an injury to his arm. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

5:32pm Wed 11 Jun 14

ballantrrae says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Nothing to do with any article, well not directly that is but, do any of your guys think that we might choose to have a smaller squad this coming season?

Ince has done really well in the mid-field, but might Hyypia consider him for one of the center back roles, adding him to Greer and Dunk. Bruno and Calde have the right back spot sewn up, Chicksen and Maksi the left side.
We have the new lad, Stephens, JFC, Crofts and Kemmy, if he gets down to work, so the mid-field is not looking bad. Solly, Kaz and Buckley give us some wide options and Ulloa and CMS up front.

Now if we were to add three loanees, a striker, center back and a creative mid-fielder, maybe just the left side of defense just needs a tad more, maybe not. Of course our keeper situation needs addressing, but I am just thinking about out-fielders.

Could those I have mentioned, along with three loanees, get us thru to the january window with a respectable place in the table?
Last season we tried to get by with just 3 CBs after El-Abd was sold and came to regret it in the play-offs if you recall.
I think we need a squad constituted as follows:-
3 GKs including Walton (one more to be signed)
2 RBs
2 LBs (hopefully Ward will return)
4 CBs (2 more needed).
7 CMs (a Creative attacking player to be added please in place of Orlandi). Also a replacement for Agustein if he departs..
3 Wings (we might need to recruit a 4th wide player both to replace Lopez and Lingard and as additional cover for the injury prone Buckley).
4 Strikers (2 more to be acquired).
That would provide a squad of 25 (26 with an extra winger) with cover for every position ie about 8 new signings. Any newcomers could be a mixture of loanees and permanent signings.
Hyypia is going to have a busy few weeks. It will be interesting to see who he brings in.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Nothing to do with any article, well not directly that is but, do any of your guys think that we might choose to have a smaller squad this coming season? Ince has done really well in the mid-field, but might Hyypia consider him for one of the center back roles, adding him to Greer and Dunk. Bruno and Calde have the right back spot sewn up, Chicksen and Maksi the left side. We have the new lad, Stephens, JFC, Crofts and Kemmy, if he gets down to work, so the mid-field is not looking bad. Solly, Kaz and Buckley give us some wide options and Ulloa and CMS up front. Now if we were to add three loanees, a striker, center back and a creative mid-fielder, maybe just the left side of defense just needs a tad more, maybe not. Of course our keeper situation needs addressing, but I am just thinking about out-fielders. Could those I have mentioned, along with three loanees, get us thru to the january window with a respectable place in the table?[/p][/quote]Last season we tried to get by with just 3 CBs after El-Abd was sold and came to regret it in the play-offs if you recall. I think we need a squad constituted as follows:- 3 GKs including Walton (one more to be signed) 2 RBs 2 LBs (hopefully Ward will return) 4 CBs (2 more needed). 7 CMs (a Creative attacking player to be added please in place of Orlandi). Also a replacement for Agustein if he departs.. 3 Wings (we might need to recruit a 4th wide player both to replace Lopez and Lingard and as additional cover for the injury prone Buckley). 4 Strikers (2 more to be acquired). That would provide a squad of 25 (26 with an extra winger) with cover for every position ie about 8 new signings. Any newcomers could be a mixture of loanees and permanent signings. Hyypia is going to have a busy few weeks. It will be interesting to see who he brings in. ballantrrae
  • Score: 3

5:41pm Wed 11 Jun 14

bha3072011 says...

ballantrrae wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Nothing to do with any article, well not directly that is but, do any of your guys think that we might choose to have a smaller squad this coming season?

Ince has done really well in the mid-field, but might Hyypia consider him for one of the center back roles, adding him to Greer and Dunk. Bruno and Calde have the right back spot sewn up, Chicksen and Maksi the left side.
We have the new lad, Stephens, JFC, Crofts and Kemmy, if he gets down to work, so the mid-field is not looking bad. Solly, Kaz and Buckley give us some wide options and Ulloa and CMS up front.

Now if we were to add three loanees, a striker, center back and a creative mid-fielder, maybe just the left side of defense just needs a tad more, maybe not. Of course our keeper situation needs addressing, but I am just thinking about out-fielders.

Could those I have mentioned, along with three loanees, get us thru to the january window with a respectable place in the table?
Last season we tried to get by with just 3 CBs after El-Abd was sold and came to regret it in the play-offs if you recall.
I think we need a squad constituted as follows:-
3 GKs including Walton (one more to be signed)
2 RBs
2 LBs (hopefully Ward will return)
4 CBs (2 more needed).
7 CMs (a Creative attacking player to be added please in place of Orlandi). Also a replacement for Agustein if he departs..
3 Wings (we might need to recruit a 4th wide player both to replace Lopez and Lingard and as additional cover for the injury prone Buckley).
4 Strikers (2 more to be acquired).
That would provide a squad of 25 (26 with an extra winger) with cover for every position ie about 8 new signings. Any newcomers could be a mixture of loanees and permanent signings.
Hyypia is going to have a busy few weeks. It will be interesting to see who he brings in.
We don't need that many centre midfielders, nor strikers either for that matter. As 4-3-3 is probably our best formation we would only need 5 centre midfielders at most (we already have 4) (barring defensive midfielders) If we played Forster-Caskey in a more advanced role then he could become our creative playmaker and he proved he could do that during his time with the England under 21's. I doubt that we need a replacement for Agustien because he only played a couple of matches and when he didn't play we didn't need him.

We only need another striker because if we have 4 then it means that one of them would get barely any time on the pitch and so it would be a waste of money.
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Nothing to do with any article, well not directly that is but, do any of your guys think that we might choose to have a smaller squad this coming season? Ince has done really well in the mid-field, but might Hyypia consider him for one of the center back roles, adding him to Greer and Dunk. Bruno and Calde have the right back spot sewn up, Chicksen and Maksi the left side. We have the new lad, Stephens, JFC, Crofts and Kemmy, if he gets down to work, so the mid-field is not looking bad. Solly, Kaz and Buckley give us some wide options and Ulloa and CMS up front. Now if we were to add three loanees, a striker, center back and a creative mid-fielder, maybe just the left side of defense just needs a tad more, maybe not. Of course our keeper situation needs addressing, but I am just thinking about out-fielders. Could those I have mentioned, along with three loanees, get us thru to the january window with a respectable place in the table?[/p][/quote]Last season we tried to get by with just 3 CBs after El-Abd was sold and came to regret it in the play-offs if you recall. I think we need a squad constituted as follows:- 3 GKs including Walton (one more to be signed) 2 RBs 2 LBs (hopefully Ward will return) 4 CBs (2 more needed). 7 CMs (a Creative attacking player to be added please in place of Orlandi). Also a replacement for Agustein if he departs.. 3 Wings (we might need to recruit a 4th wide player both to replace Lopez and Lingard and as additional cover for the injury prone Buckley). 4 Strikers (2 more to be acquired). That would provide a squad of 25 (26 with an extra winger) with cover for every position ie about 8 new signings. Any newcomers could be a mixture of loanees and permanent signings. Hyypia is going to have a busy few weeks. It will be interesting to see who he brings in.[/p][/quote]We don't need that many centre midfielders, nor strikers either for that matter. As 4-3-3 is probably our best formation we would only need 5 centre midfielders at most (we already have 4) (barring defensive midfielders) If we played Forster-Caskey in a more advanced role then he could become our creative playmaker and he proved he could do that during his time with the England under 21's. I doubt that we need a replacement for Agustien because he only played a couple of matches and when he didn't play we didn't need him. We only need another striker because if we have 4 then it means that one of them would get barely any time on the pitch and so it would be a waste of money. bha3072011
  • Score: -3

5:46pm Wed 11 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

Hi Ballantrae.
I am kinda getting where you are coming from but I would ask the following.

If we sign Ward do we keep both Chicksen and Maksi, or does one go?

Wide players, do we need another, we currently have Solly, Kaz and Buckley, do we need four. I get what you are saying about Buckley and his injuries, but the idea of buying to cover him doesn't work for me, I would rather replace him and be done with it. So that would mean he would leave.

Extra keeper yep, two CB's yep, creative mid-fielder yep but I am thinking one more striker, giving us three, at least until the january window where we can act of we have to. I guess that would largely depend on if Hyypia plays two up front.
Hi Ballantrae. I am kinda getting where you are coming from but I would ask the following. If we sign Ward do we keep both Chicksen and Maksi, or does one go? Wide players, do we need another, we currently have Solly, Kaz and Buckley, do we need four. I get what you are saying about Buckley and his injuries, but the idea of buying to cover him doesn't work for me, I would rather replace him and be done with it. So that would mean he would leave. Extra keeper yep, two CB's yep, creative mid-fielder yep but I am thinking one more striker, giving us three, at least until the january window where we can act of we have to. I guess that would largely depend on if Hyypia plays two up front. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

5:56pm Wed 11 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

With the connection we have to Liverpool, and yes I have touted this lad before, I would not be surprised to see Kriztian Adorjan arrive at the Amex, probably on loan. He spent last season on loan to Groningen, and fair to say that didn't turn out as well as it might have, but with us it might prove different. Prior to last season this lad was thought to be on the verge of making a first team break thru, not sure what the thinking is for the coming season. He is a young striker that might well fill the third spot for us.
With the connection we have to Liverpool, and yes I have touted this lad before, I would not be surprised to see Kriztian Adorjan arrive at the Amex, probably on loan. He spent last season on loan to Groningen, and fair to say that didn't turn out as well as it might have, but with us it might prove different. Prior to last season this lad was thought to be on the verge of making a first team break thru, not sure what the thinking is for the coming season. He is a young striker that might well fill the third spot for us. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

6:09pm Wed 11 Jun 14

AlfieT says...

Some posters on here have far to much time on their hands.
Some posters on here have far to much time on their hands. AlfieT
  • Score: 6

6:16pm Wed 11 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

AlfieT wrote:
Some posters on here have far to much time on their hands.
I guess some of us are just lucky that way Alfie -:)), sadly for me the hotter the days get the more time I have, yesterday my back yard hit 109f.
[quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: Some posters on here have far to much time on their hands.[/p][/quote]I guess some of us are just lucky that way Alfie -:)), sadly for me the hotter the days get the more time I have, yesterday my back yard hit 109f. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

6:30pm Wed 11 Jun 14

namgo49 says...

See Chris Burke has turned down a contract from Birmingham. Good player, worth pursuing.
See Chris Burke has turned down a contract from Birmingham. Good player, worth pursuing. namgo49
  • Score: 4

6:46pm Wed 11 Jun 14

JeffLomer says...

namgo49 wrote:
See Chris Burke has turned down a contract from Birmingham. Good player, worth pursuing.
Agreed mate is that on a free transfer as well, good solid player,
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: See Chris Burke has turned down a contract from Birmingham. Good player, worth pursuing.[/p][/quote]Agreed mate is that on a free transfer as well, good solid player, JeffLomer
  • Score: 2

6:50pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Neville says...

Birmingham have been unable to hold on to Zigic (6ft 7 striker) could he be an option.
Birmingham have been unable to hold on to Zigic (6ft 7 striker) could he be an option. Neville
  • Score: -7

6:56pm Wed 11 Jun 14

albionbloke says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
mikeygit wrote:
It would be good for the lad to get a chance to be No 1 next season. Give it to him, I say, if he makes blunders go to Plan B--whatever that may be. As to his father, maybe a bit of gamesmanship to get Albion to give the lad the No1 spot? But as said he does have to be careful. how much talk is paper talk and how much IS the Dad we do not know.
As to going to a big club, the prospects of getting into the 1st team squad would no doubt be slim unless he really shone---the grass may be greener on the other side but at the same time, far more difficult to mow!!
With every point gained or lost meaning so much to the big clubs, or any club,
in the prem Div, can you really see Walton starting for any of those clubs at this stage in his development?
If any of the top clubs were to buy him it would be a long term signing and not one for today, IMHO. Bought and sent out on loan back in our division or maybe lower, to a place where he will get playing time.
If Walton has some common sense, which I think he does, he should know that being our number two keeper for this coming season, standing between the sticks for every cup match, and being ready if called upon for the first team, will serve him better than being 4th choice at any club, no matter who they are.
I'if Walton has some common sense which you think he does'
Do you know him Vegas? Or from what evidence have you that he has common sense? WAFFLE ALERT
Idiot
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: It would be good for the lad to get a chance to be No 1 next season. Give it to him, I say, if he makes blunders go to Plan B--whatever that may be. As to his father, maybe a bit of gamesmanship to get Albion to give the lad the No1 spot? But as said he does have to be careful. how much talk is paper talk and how much IS the Dad we do not know. As to going to a big club, the prospects of getting into the 1st team squad would no doubt be slim unless he really shone---the grass may be greener on the other side but at the same time, far more difficult to mow!![/p][/quote]With every point gained or lost meaning so much to the big clubs, or any club, in the prem Div, can you really see Walton starting for any of those clubs at this stage in his development? If any of the top clubs were to buy him it would be a long term signing and not one for today, IMHO. Bought and sent out on loan back in our division or maybe lower, to a place where he will get playing time. If Walton has some common sense, which I think he does, he should know that being our number two keeper for this coming season, standing between the sticks for every cup match, and being ready if called upon for the first team, will serve him better than being 4th choice at any club, no matter who they are.[/p][/quote]I'if Walton has some common sense which you think he does' Do you know him Vegas? Or from what evidence have you that he has common sense? WAFFLE ALERT[/p][/quote]Idiot albionbloke
  • Score: 0

6:59pm Wed 11 Jun 14

albionbloke says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
mikeygit wrote:
It would be good for the lad to get a chance to be No 1 next season. Give it to him, I say, if he makes blunders go to Plan B--whatever that may be. As to his father, maybe a bit of gamesmanship to get Albion to give the lad the No1 spot? But as said he does have to be careful. how much talk is paper talk and how much IS the Dad we do not know.
As to going to a big club, the prospects of getting into the 1st team squad would no doubt be slim unless he really shone---the grass may be greener on the other side but at the same time, far more difficult to mow!!
With every point gained or lost meaning so much to the big clubs, or any club,
in the prem Div, can you really see Walton starting for any of those clubs at this stage in his development?
If any of the top clubs were to buy him it would be a long term signing and not one for today, IMHO. Bought and sent out on loan back in our division or maybe lower, to a place where he will get playing time.
If Walton has some common sense, which I think he does, he should know that being our number two keeper for this coming season, standing between the sticks for every cup match, and being ready if called upon for the first team, will serve him better than being 4th choice at any club, no matter who they are.
I'if Walton has some common sense which you think he does'
Do you know him Vegas? Or from what evidence have you that he has common sense? WAFFLE ALERT
you know Mark, you would make a good politician, when they have nothing of substance to say they revert to making pityful attacks on others.
The first couple of paragraphs of the above article suggests to me that the lad is showing some common sense, of course they might not to you, but then you so often see the negative in any article, don't you.

Troll away Mark, you are getting quite good at it, not quite up there with Ring Tone, but pretty close.
Wish I could give you 50 thumbs-up on that one Vegas...spot on.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: It would be good for the lad to get a chance to be No 1 next season. Give it to him, I say, if he makes blunders go to Plan B--whatever that may be. As to his father, maybe a bit of gamesmanship to get Albion to give the lad the No1 spot? But as said he does have to be careful. how much talk is paper talk and how much IS the Dad we do not know. As to going to a big club, the prospects of getting into the 1st team squad would no doubt be slim unless he really shone---the grass may be greener on the other side but at the same time, far more difficult to mow!![/p][/quote]With every point gained or lost meaning so much to the big clubs, or any club, in the prem Div, can you really see Walton starting for any of those clubs at this stage in his development? If any of the top clubs were to buy him it would be a long term signing and not one for today, IMHO. Bought and sent out on loan back in our division or maybe lower, to a place where he will get playing time. If Walton has some common sense, which I think he does, he should know that being our number two keeper for this coming season, standing between the sticks for every cup match, and being ready if called upon for the first team, will serve him better than being 4th choice at any club, no matter who they are.[/p][/quote]I'if Walton has some common sense which you think he does' Do you know him Vegas? Or from what evidence have you that he has common sense? WAFFLE ALERT[/p][/quote]you know Mark, you would make a good politician, when they have nothing of substance to say they revert to making pityful attacks on others. The first couple of paragraphs of the above article suggests to me that the lad is showing some common sense, of course they might not to you, but then you so often see the negative in any article, don't you. Troll away Mark, you are getting quite good at it, not quite up there with Ring Tone, but pretty close.[/p][/quote]Wish I could give you 50 thumbs-up on that one Vegas...spot on. albionbloke
  • Score: 7

7:07pm Wed 11 Jun 14

namgo49 says...

JeffLomer wrote:
namgo49 wrote:
See Chris Burke has turned down a contract from Birmingham. Good player, worth pursuing.
Agreed mate is that on a free transfer as well, good solid player,
Yes, out of contract.
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: See Chris Burke has turned down a contract from Birmingham. Good player, worth pursuing.[/p][/quote]Agreed mate is that on a free transfer as well, good solid player,[/p][/quote]Yes, out of contract. namgo49
  • Score: 0

7:08pm Wed 11 Jun 14

namgo49 says...

Neville wrote:
Birmingham have been unable to hold on to Zigic (6ft 7 striker) could he be an option.
Doesn't do it for me. He was on £70k pw allegedly!!
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Birmingham have been unable to hold on to Zigic (6ft 7 striker) could he be an option.[/p][/quote]Doesn't do it for me. He was on £70k pw allegedly!! namgo49
  • Score: 0

7:09pm Wed 11 Jun 14

bbb1969 says...

ballantrrae wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Nothing to do with any article, well not directly that is but, do any of your guys think that we might choose to have a smaller squad this coming season?

Ince has done really well in the mid-field, but might Hyypia consider him for one of the center back roles, adding him to Greer and Dunk. Bruno and Calde have the right back spot sewn up, Chicksen and Maksi the left side.
We have the new lad, Stephens, JFC, Crofts and Kemmy, if he gets down to work, so the mid-field is not looking bad. Solly, Kaz and Buckley give us some wide options and Ulloa and CMS up front.

Now if we were to add three loanees, a striker, center back and a creative mid-fielder, maybe just the left side of defense just needs a tad more, maybe not. Of course our keeper situation needs addressing, but I am just thinking about out-fielders.

Could those I have mentioned, along with three loanees, get us thru to the january window with a respectable place in the table?
Last season we tried to get by with just 3 CBs after El-Abd was sold and came to regret it in the play-offs if you recall.
I think we need a squad constituted as follows:-
3 GKs including Walton (one more to be signed)
2 RBs
2 LBs (hopefully Ward will return)
4 CBs (2 more needed).
7 CMs (a Creative attacking player to be added please in place of Orlandi). Also a replacement for Agustein if he departs..
3 Wings (we might need to recruit a 4th wide player both to replace Lopez and Lingard and as additional cover for the injury prone Buckley).
4 Strikers (2 more to be acquired).
That would provide a squad of 25 (26 with an extra winger) with cover for every position ie about 8 new signings. Any newcomers could be a mixture of loanees and permanent signings.
Hyypia is going to have a busy few weeks. It will be interesting to see who he brings in.
Actually we have some ds players who could give us a few more options. Goodwin and Dickensen look good and can cover.
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Nothing to do with any article, well not directly that is but, do any of your guys think that we might choose to have a smaller squad this coming season? Ince has done really well in the mid-field, but might Hyypia consider him for one of the center back roles, adding him to Greer and Dunk. Bruno and Calde have the right back spot sewn up, Chicksen and Maksi the left side. We have the new lad, Stephens, JFC, Crofts and Kemmy, if he gets down to work, so the mid-field is not looking bad. Solly, Kaz and Buckley give us some wide options and Ulloa and CMS up front. Now if we were to add three loanees, a striker, center back and a creative mid-fielder, maybe just the left side of defense just needs a tad more, maybe not. Of course our keeper situation needs addressing, but I am just thinking about out-fielders. Could those I have mentioned, along with three loanees, get us thru to the january window with a respectable place in the table?[/p][/quote]Last season we tried to get by with just 3 CBs after El-Abd was sold and came to regret it in the play-offs if you recall. I think we need a squad constituted as follows:- 3 GKs including Walton (one more to be signed) 2 RBs 2 LBs (hopefully Ward will return) 4 CBs (2 more needed). 7 CMs (a Creative attacking player to be added please in place of Orlandi). Also a replacement for Agustein if he departs.. 3 Wings (we might need to recruit a 4th wide player both to replace Lopez and Lingard and as additional cover for the injury prone Buckley). 4 Strikers (2 more to be acquired). That would provide a squad of 25 (26 with an extra winger) with cover for every position ie about 8 new signings. Any newcomers could be a mixture of loanees and permanent signings. Hyypia is going to have a busy few weeks. It will be interesting to see who he brings in.[/p][/quote]Actually we have some ds players who could give us a few more options. Goodwin and Dickensen look good and can cover. bbb1969
  • Score: 1

7:17pm Wed 11 Jun 14

mark by the sea says...

bbb1969 wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Nothing to do with any article, well not directly that is but, do any of your guys think that we might choose to have a smaller squad this coming season?

Ince has done really well in the mid-field, but might Hyypia consider him for one of the center back roles, adding him to Greer and Dunk. Bruno and Calde have the right back spot sewn up, Chicksen and Maksi the left side.
We have the new lad, Stephens, JFC, Crofts and Kemmy, if he gets down to work, so the mid-field is not looking bad. Solly, Kaz and Buckley give us some wide options and Ulloa and CMS up front.

Now if we were to add three loanees, a striker, center back and a creative mid-fielder, maybe just the left side of defense just needs a tad more, maybe not. Of course our keeper situation needs addressing, but I am just thinking about out-fielders.

Could those I have mentioned, along with three loanees, get us thru to the january window with a respectable place in the table?
Last season we tried to get by with just 3 CBs after El-Abd was sold and came to regret it in the play-offs if you recall.
I think we need a squad constituted as follows:-
3 GKs including Walton (one more to be signed)
2 RBs
2 LBs (hopefully Ward will return)
4 CBs (2 more needed).
7 CMs (a Creative attacking player to be added please in place of Orlandi). Also a replacement for Agustein if he departs..
3 Wings (we might need to recruit a 4th wide player both to replace Lopez and Lingard and as additional cover for the injury prone Buckley).
4 Strikers (2 more to be acquired).
That would provide a squad of 25 (26 with an extra winger) with cover for every position ie about 8 new signings. Any newcomers could be a mixture of loanees and permanent signings.
Hyypia is going to have a busy few weeks. It will be interesting to see who he brings in.
Actually we have some ds players who could give us a few more options. Goodwin and Dickensen look good and can cover.
They could if we want mid table security, hopefully TB will tell us we are after a top 6 finish
[quote][p][bold]bbb1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Nothing to do with any article, well not directly that is but, do any of your guys think that we might choose to have a smaller squad this coming season? Ince has done really well in the mid-field, but might Hyypia consider him for one of the center back roles, adding him to Greer and Dunk. Bruno and Calde have the right back spot sewn up, Chicksen and Maksi the left side. We have the new lad, Stephens, JFC, Crofts and Kemmy, if he gets down to work, so the mid-field is not looking bad. Solly, Kaz and Buckley give us some wide options and Ulloa and CMS up front. Now if we were to add three loanees, a striker, center back and a creative mid-fielder, maybe just the left side of defense just needs a tad more, maybe not. Of course our keeper situation needs addressing, but I am just thinking about out-fielders. Could those I have mentioned, along with three loanees, get us thru to the january window with a respectable place in the table?[/p][/quote]Last season we tried to get by with just 3 CBs after El-Abd was sold and came to regret it in the play-offs if you recall. I think we need a squad constituted as follows:- 3 GKs including Walton (one more to be signed) 2 RBs 2 LBs (hopefully Ward will return) 4 CBs (2 more needed). 7 CMs (a Creative attacking player to be added please in place of Orlandi). Also a replacement for Agustein if he departs.. 3 Wings (we might need to recruit a 4th wide player both to replace Lopez and Lingard and as additional cover for the injury prone Buckley). 4 Strikers (2 more to be acquired). That would provide a squad of 25 (26 with an extra winger) with cover for every position ie about 8 new signings. Any newcomers could be a mixture of loanees and permanent signings. Hyypia is going to have a busy few weeks. It will be interesting to see who he brings in.[/p][/quote]Actually we have some ds players who could give us a few more options. Goodwin and Dickensen look good and can cover.[/p][/quote]They could if we want mid table security, hopefully TB will tell us we are after a top 6 finish mark by the sea
  • Score: -4

7:17pm Wed 11 Jun 14

mark by the sea says...

bbb1969 wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Nothing to do with any article, well not directly that is but, do any of your guys think that we might choose to have a smaller squad this coming season?

Ince has done really well in the mid-field, but might Hyypia consider him for one of the center back roles, adding him to Greer and Dunk. Bruno and Calde have the right back spot sewn up, Chicksen and Maksi the left side.
We have the new lad, Stephens, JFC, Crofts and Kemmy, if he gets down to work, so the mid-field is not looking bad. Solly, Kaz and Buckley give us some wide options and Ulloa and CMS up front.

Now if we were to add three loanees, a striker, center back and a creative mid-fielder, maybe just the left side of defense just needs a tad more, maybe not. Of course our keeper situation needs addressing, but I am just thinking about out-fielders.

Could those I have mentioned, along with three loanees, get us thru to the january window with a respectable place in the table?
Last season we tried to get by with just 3 CBs after El-Abd was sold and came to regret it in the play-offs if you recall.
I think we need a squad constituted as follows:-
3 GKs including Walton (one more to be signed)
2 RBs
2 LBs (hopefully Ward will return)
4 CBs (2 more needed).
7 CMs (a Creative attacking player to be added please in place of Orlandi). Also a replacement for Agustein if he departs..
3 Wings (we might need to recruit a 4th wide player both to replace Lopez and Lingard and as additional cover for the injury prone Buckley).
4 Strikers (2 more to be acquired).
That would provide a squad of 25 (26 with an extra winger) with cover for every position ie about 8 new signings. Any newcomers could be a mixture of loanees and permanent signings.
Hyypia is going to have a busy few weeks. It will be interesting to see who he brings in.
Actually we have some ds players who could give us a few more options. Goodwin and Dickensen look good and can cover.
They could if we want mid table security, hopefully TB will tell us we are after a top 6 finish
[quote][p][bold]bbb1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Nothing to do with any article, well not directly that is but, do any of your guys think that we might choose to have a smaller squad this coming season? Ince has done really well in the mid-field, but might Hyypia consider him for one of the center back roles, adding him to Greer and Dunk. Bruno and Calde have the right back spot sewn up, Chicksen and Maksi the left side. We have the new lad, Stephens, JFC, Crofts and Kemmy, if he gets down to work, so the mid-field is not looking bad. Solly, Kaz and Buckley give us some wide options and Ulloa and CMS up front. Now if we were to add three loanees, a striker, center back and a creative mid-fielder, maybe just the left side of defense just needs a tad more, maybe not. Of course our keeper situation needs addressing, but I am just thinking about out-fielders. Could those I have mentioned, along with three loanees, get us thru to the january window with a respectable place in the table?[/p][/quote]Last season we tried to get by with just 3 CBs after El-Abd was sold and came to regret it in the play-offs if you recall. I think we need a squad constituted as follows:- 3 GKs including Walton (one more to be signed) 2 RBs 2 LBs (hopefully Ward will return) 4 CBs (2 more needed). 7 CMs (a Creative attacking player to be added please in place of Orlandi). Also a replacement for Agustein if he departs.. 3 Wings (we might need to recruit a 4th wide player both to replace Lopez and Lingard and as additional cover for the injury prone Buckley). 4 Strikers (2 more to be acquired). That would provide a squad of 25 (26 with an extra winger) with cover for every position ie about 8 new signings. Any newcomers could be a mixture of loanees and permanent signings. Hyypia is going to have a busy few weeks. It will be interesting to see who he brings in.[/p][/quote]Actually we have some ds players who could give us a few more options. Goodwin and Dickensen look good and can cover.[/p][/quote]They could if we want mid table security, hopefully TB will tell us we are after a top 6 finish mark by the sea
  • Score: -3

7:33pm Wed 11 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
bbb1969 wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Nothing to do with any article, well not directly that is but, do any of your guys think that we might choose to have a smaller squad this coming season?

Ince has done really well in the mid-field, but might Hyypia consider him for one of the center back roles, adding him to Greer and Dunk. Bruno and Calde have the right back spot sewn up, Chicksen and Maksi the left side.
We have the new lad, Stephens, JFC, Crofts and Kemmy, if he gets down to work, so the mid-field is not looking bad. Solly, Kaz and Buckley give us some wide options and Ulloa and CMS up front.

Now if we were to add three loanees, a striker, center back and a creative mid-fielder, maybe just the left side of defense just needs a tad more, maybe not. Of course our keeper situation needs addressing, but I am just thinking about out-fielders.

Could those I have mentioned, along with three loanees, get us thru to the january window with a respectable place in the table?
Last season we tried to get by with just 3 CBs after El-Abd was sold and came to regret it in the play-offs if you recall.
I think we need a squad constituted as follows:-
3 GKs including Walton (one more to be signed)
2 RBs
2 LBs (hopefully Ward will return)
4 CBs (2 more needed).
7 CMs (a Creative attacking player to be added please in place of Orlandi). Also a replacement for Agustein if he departs..
3 Wings (we might need to recruit a 4th wide player both to replace Lopez and Lingard and as additional cover for the injury prone Buckley).
4 Strikers (2 more to be acquired).
That would provide a squad of 25 (26 with an extra winger) with cover for every position ie about 8 new signings. Any newcomers could be a mixture of loanees and permanent signings.
Hyypia is going to have a busy few weeks. It will be interesting to see who he brings in.
Actually we have some ds players who could give us a few more options. Goodwin and Dickensen look good and can cover.
They could if we want mid table security, hopefully TB will tell us we are after a top 6 finish
I doubt, prior to promotion, there will ever be a season where it isn't stated that we are after a top six finish, the question is, how badly do we want it.
Top six was the stated goal for last season, we just made it but were never really good enough, and we had all those injuries. We can have a squad with a stated goal of top six but actually good enough to challenge for the top two spots or, we can have a squad capable of top six.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bbb1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Nothing to do with any article, well not directly that is but, do any of your guys think that we might choose to have a smaller squad this coming season? Ince has done really well in the mid-field, but might Hyypia consider him for one of the center back roles, adding him to Greer and Dunk. Bruno and Calde have the right back spot sewn up, Chicksen and Maksi the left side. We have the new lad, Stephens, JFC, Crofts and Kemmy, if he gets down to work, so the mid-field is not looking bad. Solly, Kaz and Buckley give us some wide options and Ulloa and CMS up front. Now if we were to add three loanees, a striker, center back and a creative mid-fielder, maybe just the left side of defense just needs a tad more, maybe not. Of course our keeper situation needs addressing, but I am just thinking about out-fielders. Could those I have mentioned, along with three loanees, get us thru to the january window with a respectable place in the table?[/p][/quote]Last season we tried to get by with just 3 CBs after El-Abd was sold and came to regret it in the play-offs if you recall. I think we need a squad constituted as follows:- 3 GKs including Walton (one more to be signed) 2 RBs 2 LBs (hopefully Ward will return) 4 CBs (2 more needed). 7 CMs (a Creative attacking player to be added please in place of Orlandi). Also a replacement for Agustein if he departs.. 3 Wings (we might need to recruit a 4th wide player both to replace Lopez and Lingard and as additional cover for the injury prone Buckley). 4 Strikers (2 more to be acquired). That would provide a squad of 25 (26 with an extra winger) with cover for every position ie about 8 new signings. Any newcomers could be a mixture of loanees and permanent signings. Hyypia is going to have a busy few weeks. It will be interesting to see who he brings in.[/p][/quote]Actually we have some ds players who could give us a few more options. Goodwin and Dickensen look good and can cover.[/p][/quote]They could if we want mid table security, hopefully TB will tell us we are after a top 6 finish[/p][/quote]I doubt, prior to promotion, there will ever be a season where it isn't stated that we are after a top six finish, the question is, how badly do we want it. Top six was the stated goal for last season, we just made it but were never really good enough, and we had all those injuries. We can have a squad with a stated goal of top six but actually good enough to challenge for the top two spots or, we can have a squad capable of top six. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

7:34pm Wed 11 Jun 14

mark by the sea says...

Young lad Walton should take half hour out and chat to Lance Cronin,
We sold him to palace or we got compensation , think figure was 100k .. He then full of beans went to Croydon and never even got on the bench, now about to kick off next season at whitehawk ... Walton may be decent , but keepers can flop 6 months down the road at this age, cash in would be my option with sell ons .
Young lad Walton should take half hour out and chat to Lance Cronin, We sold him to palace or we got compensation , think figure was 100k .. He then full of beans went to Croydon and never even got on the bench, now about to kick off next season at whitehawk ... Walton may be decent , but keepers can flop 6 months down the road at this age, cash in would be my option with sell ons . mark by the sea
  • Score: -5

7:36pm Wed 11 Jun 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
bbb1969 wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Nothing to do with any article, well not directly that is but, do any of your guys think that we might choose to have a smaller squad this coming season?

Ince has done really well in the mid-field, but might Hyypia consider him for one of the center back roles, adding him to Greer and Dunk. Bruno and Calde have the right back spot sewn up, Chicksen and Maksi the left side.
We have the new lad, Stephens, JFC, Crofts and Kemmy, if he gets down to work, so the mid-field is not looking bad. Solly, Kaz and Buckley give us some wide options and Ulloa and CMS up front.

Now if we were to add three loanees, a striker, center back and a creative mid-fielder, maybe just the left side of defense just needs a tad more, maybe not. Of course our keeper situation needs addressing, but I am just thinking about out-fielders.

Could those I have mentioned, along with three loanees, get us thru to the january window with a respectable place in the table?
Last season we tried to get by with just 3 CBs after El-Abd was sold and came to regret it in the play-offs if you recall.
I think we need a squad constituted as follows:-
3 GKs including Walton (one more to be signed)
2 RBs
2 LBs (hopefully Ward will return)
4 CBs (2 more needed).
7 CMs (a Creative attacking player to be added please in place of Orlandi). Also a replacement for Agustein if he departs..
3 Wings (we might need to recruit a 4th wide player both to replace Lopez and Lingard and as additional cover for the injury prone Buckley).
4 Strikers (2 more to be acquired).
That would provide a squad of 25 (26 with an extra winger) with cover for every position ie about 8 new signings. Any newcomers could be a mixture of loanees and permanent signings.
Hyypia is going to have a busy few weeks. It will be interesting to see who he brings in.
Actually we have some ds players who could give us a few more options. Goodwin and Dickensen look good and can cover.
They could if we want mid table security, hopefully TB will tell us we are after a top 6 finish
I doubt, prior to promotion, there will ever be a season where it isn't stated that we are after a top six finish, the question is, how badly do we want it.
Top six was the stated goal for last season, we just made it but were never really good enough, and we had all those injuries. We can have a squad with a stated goal of top six but actually good enough to challenge for the top two spots or, we can have a squad capable of top six.
After the loss of 5-6 squad players , the replacement of them is key,
The next 3 -4 weeks is going to be interesting
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bbb1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Nothing to do with any article, well not directly that is but, do any of your guys think that we might choose to have a smaller squad this coming season? Ince has done really well in the mid-field, but might Hyypia consider him for one of the center back roles, adding him to Greer and Dunk. Bruno and Calde have the right back spot sewn up, Chicksen and Maksi the left side. We have the new lad, Stephens, JFC, Crofts and Kemmy, if he gets down to work, so the mid-field is not looking bad. Solly, Kaz and Buckley give us some wide options and Ulloa and CMS up front. Now if we were to add three loanees, a striker, center back and a creative mid-fielder, maybe just the left side of defense just needs a tad more, maybe not. Of course our keeper situation needs addressing, but I am just thinking about out-fielders. Could those I have mentioned, along with three loanees, get us thru to the january window with a respectable place in the table?[/p][/quote]Last season we tried to get by with just 3 CBs after El-Abd was sold and came to regret it in the play-offs if you recall. I think we need a squad constituted as follows:- 3 GKs including Walton (one more to be signed) 2 RBs 2 LBs (hopefully Ward will return) 4 CBs (2 more needed). 7 CMs (a Creative attacking player to be added please in place of Orlandi). Also a replacement for Agustein if he departs.. 3 Wings (we might need to recruit a 4th wide player both to replace Lopez and Lingard and as additional cover for the injury prone Buckley). 4 Strikers (2 more to be acquired). That would provide a squad of 25 (26 with an extra winger) with cover for every position ie about 8 new signings. Any newcomers could be a mixture of loanees and permanent signings. Hyypia is going to have a busy few weeks. It will be interesting to see who he brings in.[/p][/quote]Actually we have some ds players who could give us a few more options. Goodwin and Dickensen look good and can cover.[/p][/quote]They could if we want mid table security, hopefully TB will tell us we are after a top 6 finish[/p][/quote]I doubt, prior to promotion, there will ever be a season where it isn't stated that we are after a top six finish, the question is, how badly do we want it. Top six was the stated goal for last season, we just made it but were never really good enough, and we had all those injuries. We can have a squad with a stated goal of top six but actually good enough to challenge for the top two spots or, we can have a squad capable of top six.[/p][/quote]After the loss of 5-6 squad players , the replacement of them is key, The next 3 -4 weeks is going to be interesting mark by the sea
  • Score: 2

7:38pm Wed 11 Jun 14

mark by the sea says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Young lad Walton should take half hour out and chat to Lance Cronin,
We sold him to palace or we got compensation , think figure was 100k .. He then full of beans went to Croydon and never even got on the bench, now about to kick off next season at whitehawk ... Walton may be decent , but keepers can flop 6 months down the road at this age, cash in would be my option with sell ons .
Sorry the other point is he should want to play here, get experience then if the Albion are not in the premier league move for big money, big wages and hay ho
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Young lad Walton should take half hour out and chat to Lance Cronin, We sold him to palace or we got compensation , think figure was 100k .. He then full of beans went to Croydon and never even got on the bench, now about to kick off next season at whitehawk ... Walton may be decent , but keepers can flop 6 months down the road at this age, cash in would be my option with sell ons .[/p][/quote]Sorry the other point is he should want to play here, get experience then if the Albion are not in the premier league move for big money, big wages and hay ho mark by the sea
  • Score: 3

7:44pm Wed 11 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Young lad Walton should take half hour out and chat to Lance Cronin,
We sold him to palace or we got compensation , think figure was 100k .. He then full of beans went to Croydon and never even got on the bench, now about to kick off next season at whitehawk ... Walton may be decent , but keepers can flop 6 months down the road at this age, cash in would be my option with sell ons .
A keeper might flop six months down the road, but he might not. The thought of offloading any young keeper that comes thru the ranks, just in case he flops later, might be ok for getting a few quid in the bank today, but that's abou all.
Would we not be better off if we try to hold on to those showing enough skills to interest the likes of Arsenal and Man City.
A lad showing promise but not attracting the attention of big clubs, ok sell him on, Walton, he is in a different position. 300k today could be 3 milliom tomorrow.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Young lad Walton should take half hour out and chat to Lance Cronin, We sold him to palace or we got compensation , think figure was 100k .. He then full of beans went to Croydon and never even got on the bench, now about to kick off next season at whitehawk ... Walton may be decent , but keepers can flop 6 months down the road at this age, cash in would be my option with sell ons .[/p][/quote]A keeper might flop six months down the road, but he might not. The thought of offloading any young keeper that comes thru the ranks, just in case he flops later, might be ok for getting a few quid in the bank today, but that's abou all. Would we not be better off if we try to hold on to those showing enough skills to interest the likes of Arsenal and Man City. A lad showing promise but not attracting the attention of big clubs, ok sell him on, Walton, he is in a different position. 300k today could be 3 milliom tomorrow. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

8:18pm Wed 11 Jun 14

OldGull says...

Just watched the 2nd interview with Paul Barber
He talks about the football league meeting in Portugal
FFP and the proccess involving Player Recruitment.

All you negative souls out there should watch it.
He points out the most important person in the process is the MANAGER.
No doubt I will be shot down for thinking he came across very well.
I am also sure that a few will not like it because they have decided they do not like the "Suits".
Just watched the 2nd interview with Paul Barber He talks about the football league meeting in Portugal FFP and the proccess involving Player Recruitment. All you negative souls out there should watch it. He points out the most important person in the process is the MANAGER. No doubt I will be shot down for thinking he came across very well. I am also sure that a few will not like it because they have decided they do not like the "Suits". OldGull
  • Score: 8

8:29pm Wed 11 Jun 14

JeffLomer says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Young lad Walton should take half hour out and chat to Lance Cronin,
We sold him to palace or we got compensation , think figure was 100k .. He then full of beans went to Croydon and never even got on the bench, now about to kick off next season at whitehawk ... Walton may be decent , but keepers can flop 6 months down the road at this age, cash in would be my option with sell ons .
Absolutely disagree on cashing in on Walton what would the point off that be we would still have to find a replacement which would cost us probably more money,

We could have a potential great keeper on our hands here and you want to cash in for a million pound, we have bought this lad on to be our keeper if not this season then hopefully next, to sell him now makes no sense to him and the club, Brighton should only sell a player on there own terms, what is the point having a new academy if you want the club to sell our best up coming players for next to nothing!!
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Young lad Walton should take half hour out and chat to Lance Cronin, We sold him to palace or we got compensation , think figure was 100k .. He then full of beans went to Croydon and never even got on the bench, now about to kick off next season at whitehawk ... Walton may be decent , but keepers can flop 6 months down the road at this age, cash in would be my option with sell ons .[/p][/quote]Absolutely disagree on cashing in on Walton what would the point off that be we would still have to find a replacement which would cost us probably more money, We could have a potential great keeper on our hands here and you want to cash in for a million pound, we have bought this lad on to be our keeper if not this season then hopefully next, to sell him now makes no sense to him and the club, Brighton should only sell a player on there own terms, what is the point having a new academy if you want the club to sell our best up coming players for next to nothing!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 6

8:36pm Wed 11 Jun 14

pte says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
bbb1969 wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Nothing to do with any article, well not directly that is but, do any of your guys think that we might choose to have a smaller squad this coming season?

Ince has done really well in the mid-field, but might Hyypia consider him for one of the center back roles, adding him to Greer and Dunk. Bruno and Calde have the right back spot sewn up, Chicksen and Maksi the left side.
We have the new lad, Stephens, JFC, Crofts and Kemmy, if he gets down to work, so the mid-field is not looking bad. Solly, Kaz and Buckley give us some wide options and Ulloa and CMS up front.

Now if we were to add three loanees, a striker, center back and a creative mid-fielder, maybe just the left side of defense just needs a tad more, maybe not. Of course our keeper situation needs addressing, but I am just thinking about out-fielders.

Could those I have mentioned, along with three loanees, get us thru to the january window with a respectable place in the table?
Last season we tried to get by with just 3 CBs after El-Abd was sold and came to regret it in the play-offs if you recall.
I think we need a squad constituted as follows:-
3 GKs including Walton (one more to be signed)
2 RBs
2 LBs (hopefully Ward will return)
4 CBs (2 more needed).
7 CMs (a Creative attacking player to be added please in place of Orlandi). Also a replacement for Agustein if he departs..
3 Wings (we might need to recruit a 4th wide player both to replace Lopez and Lingard and as additional cover for the injury prone Buckley).
4 Strikers (2 more to be acquired).
That would provide a squad of 25 (26 with an extra winger) with cover for every position ie about 8 new signings. Any newcomers could be a mixture of loanees and permanent signings.
Hyypia is going to have a busy few weeks. It will be interesting to see who he brings in.
Actually we have some ds players who could give us a few more options. Goodwin and Dickensen look good and can cover.
They could if we want mid table security, hopefully TB will tell us we are after a top 6 finish
I doubt, prior to promotion, there will ever be a season where it isn't stated that we are after a top six finish, the question is, how badly do we want it.
Top six was the stated goal for last season, we just made it but were never really good enough, and we had all those injuries. We can have a squad with a stated goal of top six but actually good enough to challenge for the top two spots or, we can have a squad capable of top six.
To me the first option makes sense. Sit on the money, blood the youngsters and forget about promotion this season. In the following season we'll be stronger financially and a young squad with a year or two experience behind it.

I don't think even if TB went out and blew his money on 6 highly paid players now that would guarantee promotion.

I agree with you that the present strategy makes no sense if the aim is quick promotion but it does make sense IF and its a big IF we have a crop of youngsters capable of taking us to the top in 2 years time. Otherwise we need to spend more on the budget

So that doesn't mean I disagree with you entirely or that I agree with the usual run of brain dead mugs on this site that swallow everything the club feeds them
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bbb1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Nothing to do with any article, well not directly that is but, do any of your guys think that we might choose to have a smaller squad this coming season? Ince has done really well in the mid-field, but might Hyypia consider him for one of the center back roles, adding him to Greer and Dunk. Bruno and Calde have the right back spot sewn up, Chicksen and Maksi the left side. We have the new lad, Stephens, JFC, Crofts and Kemmy, if he gets down to work, so the mid-field is not looking bad. Solly, Kaz and Buckley give us some wide options and Ulloa and CMS up front. Now if we were to add three loanees, a striker, center back and a creative mid-fielder, maybe just the left side of defense just needs a tad more, maybe not. Of course our keeper situation needs addressing, but I am just thinking about out-fielders. Could those I have mentioned, along with three loanees, get us thru to the january window with a respectable place in the table?[/p][/quote]Last season we tried to get by with just 3 CBs after El-Abd was sold and came to regret it in the play-offs if you recall. I think we need a squad constituted as follows:- 3 GKs including Walton (one more to be signed) 2 RBs 2 LBs (hopefully Ward will return) 4 CBs (2 more needed). 7 CMs (a Creative attacking player to be added please in place of Orlandi). Also a replacement for Agustein if he departs.. 3 Wings (we might need to recruit a 4th wide player both to replace Lopez and Lingard and as additional cover for the injury prone Buckley). 4 Strikers (2 more to be acquired). That would provide a squad of 25 (26 with an extra winger) with cover for every position ie about 8 new signings. Any newcomers could be a mixture of loanees and permanent signings. Hyypia is going to have a busy few weeks. It will be interesting to see who he brings in.[/p][/quote]Actually we have some ds players who could give us a few more options. Goodwin and Dickensen look good and can cover.[/p][/quote]They could if we want mid table security, hopefully TB will tell us we are after a top 6 finish[/p][/quote]I doubt, prior to promotion, there will ever be a season where it isn't stated that we are after a top six finish, the question is, how badly do we want it. Top six was the stated goal for last season, we just made it but were never really good enough, and we had all those injuries. We can have a squad with a stated goal of top six but actually good enough to challenge for the top two spots or, we can have a squad capable of top six.[/p][/quote]To me the first option makes sense. Sit on the money, blood the youngsters and forget about promotion this season. In the following season we'll be stronger financially and a young squad with a year or two experience behind it. I don't think even if TB went out and blew his money on 6 highly paid players now that would guarantee promotion. I agree with you that the present strategy makes no sense if the aim is quick promotion but it does make sense IF and its a big IF we have a crop of youngsters capable of taking us to the top in 2 years time. Otherwise we need to spend more on the budget So that doesn't mean I disagree with you entirely or that I agree with the usual run of brain dead mugs on this site that swallow everything the club feeds them pte
  • Score: 0

8:41pm Wed 11 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

JeffLomer wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Young lad Walton should take half hour out and chat to Lance Cronin,
We sold him to palace or we got compensation , think figure was 100k .. He then full of beans went to Croydon and never even got on the bench, now about to kick off next season at whitehawk ... Walton may be decent , but keepers can flop 6 months down the road at this age, cash in would be my option with sell ons .
Absolutely disagree on cashing in on Walton what would the point off that be we would still have to find a replacement which would cost us probably more money,

We could have a potential great keeper on our hands here and you want to cash in for a million pound, we have bought this lad on to be our keeper if not this season then hopefully next, to sell him now makes no sense to him and the club, Brighton should only sell a player on there own terms, what is the point having a new academy if you want the club to sell our best up coming players for next to nothing!!
Jeff our new academy is not a super market for others to come shopping at. There will be times when a young player is sold but the cream of the crop should at least complete a couple of seasons playing for us.
Selling players is all part of running a club, the top players move around all the time, but a good youngster can be worth millions after proving himself.
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Young lad Walton should take half hour out and chat to Lance Cronin, We sold him to palace or we got compensation , think figure was 100k .. He then full of beans went to Croydon and never even got on the bench, now about to kick off next season at whitehawk ... Walton may be decent , but keepers can flop 6 months down the road at this age, cash in would be my option with sell ons .[/p][/quote]Absolutely disagree on cashing in on Walton what would the point off that be we would still have to find a replacement which would cost us probably more money, We could have a potential great keeper on our hands here and you want to cash in for a million pound, we have bought this lad on to be our keeper if not this season then hopefully next, to sell him now makes no sense to him and the club, Brighton should only sell a player on there own terms, what is the point having a new academy if you want the club to sell our best up coming players for next to nothing!![/p][/quote]Jeff our new academy is not a super market for others to come shopping at. There will be times when a young player is sold but the cream of the crop should at least complete a couple of seasons playing for us. Selling players is all part of running a club, the top players move around all the time, but a good youngster can be worth millions after proving himself. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

8:53pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Cockwomble says...

OldGull wrote:
Just watched the 2nd interview with Paul Barber
He talks about the football league meeting in Portugal
FFP and the proccess involving Player Recruitment.

All you negative souls out there should watch it.
He points out the most important person in the process is the MANAGER.
No doubt I will be shot down for thinking he came across very well.
I am also sure that a few will not like it because they have decided they do not like the "Suits".
do you have a link please?i like barber even though he earns more in a day than i do in a year.tricky job
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: Just watched the 2nd interview with Paul Barber He talks about the football league meeting in Portugal FFP and the proccess involving Player Recruitment. All you negative souls out there should watch it. He points out the most important person in the process is the MANAGER. No doubt I will be shot down for thinking he came across very well. I am also sure that a few will not like it because they have decided they do not like the "Suits".[/p][/quote]do you have a link please?i like barber even though he earns more in a day than i do in a year.tricky job Cockwomble
  • Score: 2

9:20pm Wed 11 Jun 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Young lad Walton should take half hour out and chat to Lance Cronin,
We sold him to palace or we got compensation , think figure was 100k .. He then full of beans went to Croydon and never even got on the bench, now about to kick off next season at whitehawk ... Walton may be decent , but keepers can flop 6 months down the road at this age, cash in would be my option with sell ons .
A keeper might flop six months down the road, but he might not. The thought of offloading any young keeper that comes thru the ranks, just in case he flops later, might be ok for getting a few quid in the bank today, but that's abou all.
Would we not be better off if we try to hold on to those showing enough skills to interest the likes of Arsenal and Man City.
A lad showing promise but not attracting the attention of big clubs, ok sell him on, Walton, he is in a different position. 300k today could be 3 milliom tomorrow.
We can't make him stay , and also who is to say he is going to be any good?
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Young lad Walton should take half hour out and chat to Lance Cronin, We sold him to palace or we got compensation , think figure was 100k .. He then full of beans went to Croydon and never even got on the bench, now about to kick off next season at whitehawk ... Walton may be decent , but keepers can flop 6 months down the road at this age, cash in would be my option with sell ons .[/p][/quote]A keeper might flop six months down the road, but he might not. The thought of offloading any young keeper that comes thru the ranks, just in case he flops later, might be ok for getting a few quid in the bank today, but that's abou all. Would we not be better off if we try to hold on to those showing enough skills to interest the likes of Arsenal and Man City. A lad showing promise but not attracting the attention of big clubs, ok sell him on, Walton, he is in a different position. 300k today could be 3 milliom tomorrow.[/p][/quote]We can't make him stay , and also who is to say he is going to be any good? mark by the sea
  • Score: -3

9:33pm Wed 11 Jun 14

JeffLomer says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Young lad Walton should take half hour out and chat to Lance Cronin,
We sold him to palace or we got compensation , think figure was 100k .. He then full of beans went to Croydon and never even got on the bench, now about to kick off next season at whitehawk ... Walton may be decent , but keepers can flop 6 months down the road at this age, cash in would be my option with sell ons .
Absolutely disagree on cashing in on Walton what would the point off that be we would still have to find a replacement which would cost us probably more money,

We could have a potential great keeper on our hands here and you want to cash in for a million pound, we have bought this lad on to be our keeper if not this season then hopefully next, to sell him now makes no sense to him and the club, Brighton should only sell a player on there own terms, what is the point having a new academy if you want the club to sell our best up coming players for next to nothing!!
Jeff our new academy is not a super market for others to come shopping at. There will be times when a young player is sold but the cream of the crop should at least complete a couple of seasons playing for us.
Selling players is all part of running a club, the top players move around all the time, but a good youngster can be worth millions after proving himself.
I understand that Vegas I probably didn't word it properly about the accademy, yer off course you need to sell players to help keep the club ticking over, I was more concerned about marks comment about Walton,
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Young lad Walton should take half hour out and chat to Lance Cronin, We sold him to palace or we got compensation , think figure was 100k .. He then full of beans went to Croydon and never even got on the bench, now about to kick off next season at whitehawk ... Walton may be decent , but keepers can flop 6 months down the road at this age, cash in would be my option with sell ons .[/p][/quote]Absolutely disagree on cashing in on Walton what would the point off that be we would still have to find a replacement which would cost us probably more money, We could have a potential great keeper on our hands here and you want to cash in for a million pound, we have bought this lad on to be our keeper if not this season then hopefully next, to sell him now makes no sense to him and the club, Brighton should only sell a player on there own terms, what is the point having a new academy if you want the club to sell our best up coming players for next to nothing!![/p][/quote]Jeff our new academy is not a super market for others to come shopping at. There will be times when a young player is sold but the cream of the crop should at least complete a couple of seasons playing for us. Selling players is all part of running a club, the top players move around all the time, but a good youngster can be worth millions after proving himself.[/p][/quote]I understand that Vegas I probably didn't word it properly about the accademy, yer off course you need to sell players to help keep the club ticking over, I was more concerned about marks comment about Walton, JeffLomer
  • Score: 0

9:33pm Wed 11 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Young lad Walton should take half hour out and chat to Lance Cronin,
We sold him to palace or we got compensation , think figure was 100k .. He then full of beans went to Croydon and never even got on the bench, now about to kick off next season at whitehawk ... Walton may be decent , but keepers can flop 6 months down the road at this age, cash in would be my option with sell ons .
A keeper might flop six months down the road, but he might not. The thought of offloading any young keeper that comes thru the ranks, just in case he flops later, might be ok for getting a few quid in the bank today, but that's abou all.
Would we not be better off if we try to hold on to those showing enough skills to interest the likes of Arsenal and Man City.
A lad showing promise but not attracting the attention of big clubs, ok sell him on, Walton, he is in a different position. 300k today could be 3 milliom tomorrow.
We can't make him stay , and also who is to say he is going to be any good?
I'm sorry but I just don't get your logic. What you are advocating is selling a young goalkeeper now, because in six months time he might not be any good. If we were to follow your advice and not take a gamble on Walton progressing upward, why would we sign any young kid at any time, after six months they might be any good. I guess it was lucky for Giggs that United didn't have the same policy you are advocating.
All development squads would disolve because there would be any kids in them, none would be signed due to the fact that six months down the road they might not be any good.

Like I say, I just see the logic behind your thinking.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Young lad Walton should take half hour out and chat to Lance Cronin, We sold him to palace or we got compensation , think figure was 100k .. He then full of beans went to Croydon and never even got on the bench, now about to kick off next season at whitehawk ... Walton may be decent , but keepers can flop 6 months down the road at this age, cash in would be my option with sell ons .[/p][/quote]A keeper might flop six months down the road, but he might not. The thought of offloading any young keeper that comes thru the ranks, just in case he flops later, might be ok for getting a few quid in the bank today, but that's abou all. Would we not be better off if we try to hold on to those showing enough skills to interest the likes of Arsenal and Man City. A lad showing promise but not attracting the attention of big clubs, ok sell him on, Walton, he is in a different position. 300k today could be 3 milliom tomorrow.[/p][/quote]We can't make him stay , and also who is to say he is going to be any good?[/p][/quote]I'm sorry but I just don't get your logic. What you are advocating is selling a young goalkeeper now, because in six months time he might not be any good. If we were to follow your advice and not take a gamble on Walton progressing upward, why would we sign any young kid at any time, after six months they might be any good. I guess it was lucky for Giggs that United didn't have the same policy you are advocating. All development squads would disolve because there would be any kids in them, none would be signed due to the fact that six months down the road they might not be any good. Like I say, I just see the logic behind your thinking. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 9

9:52pm Wed 11 Jun 14

OldGull says...

Cockwomble wrote:
OldGull wrote:
Just watched the 2nd interview with Paul Barber
He talks about the football league meeting in Portugal
FFP and the proccess involving Player Recruitment.

All you negative souls out there should watch it.
He points out the most important person in the process is the MANAGER.
No doubt I will be shot down for thinking he came across very well.
I am also sure that a few will not like it because they have decided they do not like the "Suits".
do you have a link please?i like barber even though he earns more in a day than i do in a year.tricky job
Its on the seagull player
[quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: Just watched the 2nd interview with Paul Barber He talks about the football league meeting in Portugal FFP and the proccess involving Player Recruitment. All you negative souls out there should watch it. He points out the most important person in the process is the MANAGER. No doubt I will be shot down for thinking he came across very well. I am also sure that a few will not like it because they have decided they do not like the "Suits".[/p][/quote]do you have a link please?i like barber even though he earns more in a day than i do in a year.tricky job[/p][/quote]Its on the seagull player OldGull
  • Score: 2

10:09pm Wed 11 Jun 14

SMF20 says...

OldGull wrote:
Just watched the 2nd interview with Paul Barber
He talks about the football league meeting in Portugal
FFP and the proccess involving Player Recruitment.

All you negative souls out there should watch it.
He points out the most important person in the process is the MANAGER.
No doubt I will be shot down for thinking he came across very well.
I am also sure that a few will not like it because they have decided they do not like the "Suits".
I have to agree after just watching both parts of the interview.

I thought that PB came across exceptionally well and gave as good an interview as anyone would expect from CEO.

I've never been his biggest fan but he has certainly just gone up a notch in my eyss
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: Just watched the 2nd interview with Paul Barber He talks about the football league meeting in Portugal FFP and the proccess involving Player Recruitment. All you negative souls out there should watch it. He points out the most important person in the process is the MANAGER. No doubt I will be shot down for thinking he came across very well. I am also sure that a few will not like it because they have decided they do not like the "Suits".[/p][/quote]I have to agree after just watching both parts of the interview. I thought that PB came across exceptionally well and gave as good an interview as anyone would expect from CEO. I've never been his biggest fan but he has certainly just gone up a notch in my eyss SMF20
  • Score: 5

10:11pm Wed 11 Jun 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Young lad Walton should take half hour out and chat to Lance Cronin,
We sold him to palace or we got compensation , think figure was 100k .. He then full of beans went to Croydon and never even got on the bench, now about to kick off next season at whitehawk ... Walton may be decent , but keepers can flop 6 months down the road at this age, cash in would be my option with sell ons .
A keeper might flop six months down the road, but he might not. The thought of offloading any young keeper that comes thru the ranks, just in case he flops later, might be ok for getting a few quid in the bank today, but that's abou all.
Would we not be better off if we try to hold on to those showing enough skills to interest the likes of Arsenal and Man City.
A lad showing promise but not attracting the attention of big clubs, ok sell him on, Walton, he is in a different position. 300k today could be 3 milliom tomorrow.
We can't make him stay , and also who is to say he is going to be any good?
I'm sorry but I just don't get your logic. What you are advocating is selling a young goalkeeper now, because in six months time he might not be any good. If we were to follow your advice and not take a gamble on Walton progressing upward, why would we sign any young kid at any time, after six months they might be any good. I guess it was lucky for Giggs that United didn't have the same policy you are advocating.
All development squads would disolve because there would be any kids in them, none would be signed due to the fact that six months down the road they might not be any good.

Like I say, I just see the logic behind your thinking.
Keeping is about confidence , it's a fragile thing, remember the keeper for England on his debut? About three years ago? Where is he now ?
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Young lad Walton should take half hour out and chat to Lance Cronin, We sold him to palace or we got compensation , think figure was 100k .. He then full of beans went to Croydon and never even got on the bench, now about to kick off next season at whitehawk ... Walton may be decent , but keepers can flop 6 months down the road at this age, cash in would be my option with sell ons .[/p][/quote]A keeper might flop six months down the road, but he might not. The thought of offloading any young keeper that comes thru the ranks, just in case he flops later, might be ok for getting a few quid in the bank today, but that's abou all. Would we not be better off if we try to hold on to those showing enough skills to interest the likes of Arsenal and Man City. A lad showing promise but not attracting the attention of big clubs, ok sell him on, Walton, he is in a different position. 300k today could be 3 milliom tomorrow.[/p][/quote]We can't make him stay , and also who is to say he is going to be any good?[/p][/quote]I'm sorry but I just don't get your logic. What you are advocating is selling a young goalkeeper now, because in six months time he might not be any good. If we were to follow your advice and not take a gamble on Walton progressing upward, why would we sign any young kid at any time, after six months they might be any good. I guess it was lucky for Giggs that United didn't have the same policy you are advocating. All development squads would disolve because there would be any kids in them, none would be signed due to the fact that six months down the road they might not be any good. Like I say, I just see the logic behind your thinking.[/p][/quote]Keeping is about confidence , it's a fragile thing, remember the keeper for England on his debut? About three years ago? Where is he now ? mark by the sea
  • Score: -3

10:14pm Wed 11 Jun 14

mark by the sea says...

Do you remember joe lewis? Or rob green ?
Do you remember joe lewis? Or rob green ? mark by the sea
  • Score: -4

10:44pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Cockwomble says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Do you remember joe lewis? Or rob green ?
rob green the qpr keeper earning 10s of thousdands a week in the premier league or another rob green?robson green?
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Do you remember joe lewis? Or rob green ?[/p][/quote]rob green the qpr keeper earning 10s of thousdands a week in the premier league or another rob green?robson green? Cockwomble
  • Score: 5

12:41am Thu 12 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

Mark I can see the confidence thing for a keeper, but can not the same be said for a striker, should we let a decent looking one go because he might be crap in six months time?
Mark I can see the confidence thing for a keeper, but can not the same be said for a striker, should we let a decent looking one go because he might be crap in six months time? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

2:10am Thu 12 Jun 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Mark I can see the confidence thing for a keeper, but can not the same be said for a striker, should we let a decent looking one go because he might be crap in six months time?
It's just Mark's natural negativity coming through!

UTA!!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Mark I can see the confidence thing for a keeper, but can not the same be said for a striker, should we let a decent looking one go because he might be crap in six months time?[/p][/quote]It's just Mark's natural negativity coming through! UTA!! Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 9

2:52am Thu 12 Jun 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

Has anyone else noticed the simultaneous absences of Ringpiece and Expat Arnie lately? Perhaps someone should go round to Ringpiece's bedsit - could be that Arnie tracked him down and they've fought to the death... or alternatively I suppose Ringpiece could be Arnie's alter who and they are in fact one an the same person - which makes them BOTH Dunk's dad I suppose!! 😉
Has anyone else noticed the simultaneous absences of Ringpiece and Expat Arnie lately? Perhaps someone should go round to Ringpiece's bedsit - could be that Arnie tracked him down and they've fought to the death... or alternatively I suppose Ringpiece could be Arnie's alter who and they are in fact one an the same person - which makes them BOTH Dunk's dad I suppose!! 😉 Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 5

2:59am Thu 12 Jun 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Has anyone else noticed the simultaneous absences of Ringpiece and Expat Arnie lately? Perhaps someone should go round to Ringpiece's bedsit - could be that Arnie tracked him down and they've fought to the death... or alternatively I suppose Ringpiece could be Arnie's alter who and they are in fact one an the same person - which makes them BOTH Dunk's dad I suppose!! 😉
* alter ego
[quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: Has anyone else noticed the simultaneous absences of Ringpiece and Expat Arnie lately? Perhaps someone should go round to Ringpiece's bedsit - could be that Arnie tracked him down and they've fought to the death... or alternatively I suppose Ringpiece could be Arnie's alter who and they are in fact one an the same person - which makes them BOTH Dunk's dad I suppose!! 😉[/p][/quote]* alter ego Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 5

9:03am Thu 12 Jun 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Has anyone else noticed the simultaneous absences of Ringpiece and Expat Arnie lately? Perhaps someone should go round to Ringpiece's bedsit - could be that Arnie tracked him down and they've fought to the death... or alternatively I suppose Ringpiece could be Arnie's alter who and they are in fact one an the same person - which makes them BOTH Dunk's dad I suppose!! 😉
I disappeared long before Ringpiece, I'll have you know! :-)

I had one too many contretemps with one too many idiots/trolls, so thought it in everyone's best interests if I stayed off for a while. I'm still reading, but no longer being baited.
[quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: Has anyone else noticed the simultaneous absences of Ringpiece and Expat Arnie lately? Perhaps someone should go round to Ringpiece's bedsit - could be that Arnie tracked him down and they've fought to the death... or alternatively I suppose Ringpiece could be Arnie's alter who and they are in fact one an the same person - which makes them BOTH Dunk's dad I suppose!! 😉[/p][/quote]I disappeared long before Ringpiece, I'll have you know! :-) I had one too many contretemps with one too many idiots/trolls, so thought it in everyone's best interests if I stayed off for a while. I'm still reading, but no longer being baited. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 0

10:19am Thu 12 Jun 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Has anyone else noticed the simultaneous absences of Ringpiece and Expat Arnie lately? Perhaps someone should go round to Ringpiece's bedsit - could be that Arnie tracked him down and they've fought to the death... or alternatively I suppose Ringpiece could be Arnie's alter who and they are in fact one an the same person - which makes them BOTH Dunk's dad I suppose!! 😉
I disappeared long before Ringpiece, I'll have you know! :-)

I had one too many contretemps with one too many idiots/trolls, so thought it in everyone's best interests if I stayed off for a while. I'm still reading, but no longer being baited.
Hahaha okay Mr Dunk!!
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: Has anyone else noticed the simultaneous absences of Ringpiece and Expat Arnie lately? Perhaps someone should go round to Ringpiece's bedsit - could be that Arnie tracked him down and they've fought to the death... or alternatively I suppose Ringpiece could be Arnie's alter who and they are in fact one an the same person - which makes them BOTH Dunk's dad I suppose!! 😉[/p][/quote]I disappeared long before Ringpiece, I'll have you know! :-) I had one too many contretemps with one too many idiots/trolls, so thought it in everyone's best interests if I stayed off for a while. I'm still reading, but no longer being baited.[/p][/quote]Hahaha okay Mr Dunk!! Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 0

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