Barber backs smart Albion to thrive again

Paul Barber

Paul Barber

First published in Sport by , Chief sports reporter

Albion chief executive Paul Barber believes the club can thrive again in the Championship next season under Sami Hyypia – despite a growing financial disadvantage.

The Seagulls attract the biggest crowds in the division to the Amex but they are up against many clubs buffered by parachute payments following relegation from the Premier League.

Barber revealed: “I said at a function in London two weeks ago we are selling out our stadium every week, as full as we can be in the corporate area, some of the best sponsors in the country let alone in the championship, but the income we are generating is less than one parachute payment the clubs get coming down from the Prem this year.

“That puts us at a disadvantage, there is no doubt about that, but we can be smarter and, as we have shown over the past few seasons, we have been smarter.

“We have got ourselves, despite other clubs with parachute payments and bigger incomes, into the top six in two successive cases.

“Burnley got themselves promoted with a budget probably smaller than ours, Derby got up there with a budget similar to ours. We know we can compete and know the division is not just about money.”

Barber added: “In a lot of cases for the clubs coming down those parachute payments are swallowed up with salaries of players they came down with and cannot move on. It doesn’t automatically follow that if you get a big parachute guarantee you succeed.

“But it certainly makes it harder when almost half the division have already got a financial advantage. We have to work smarter on and off the field, hire good people using our network.

“With David (Burke, head of football) and Sami’s contacts, we will bring in good players, use all of our contacts in football to do that and give us a chance of going were we want to get to. These (training ground) facilities and infrastructure will also help us do that.”

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6:44am Sat 14 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Nice illustration of expectation management!
What it also shows is that joining the PL 'club' not just the league itself, is getting more and more difficult. We clearly won't be throwing money at it like QPR and taking a huge once-only gamble and I'm fully supportive of this sensible, if unexciting approach.
How do you eat an elephant? A - One bite at a time.
Nice illustration of expectation management! What it also shows is that joining the PL 'club' not just the league itself, is getting more and more difficult. We clearly won't be throwing money at it like QPR and taking a huge once-only gamble and I'm fully supportive of this sensible, if unexciting approach. How do you eat an elephant? A - One bite at a time. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 35

7:53am Sat 14 Jun 14

Sheil says...

Good post Albion! I have to say having watched I.Player interviews that they really impressed.....all very eloquent & informative which I'm sorry to say one couldn't say about Oscar! Shame really! Never mind 14/15 Season's looking exciting all of a sudden.

Keep the faith! UTA
Good post Albion! I have to say having watched I.Player interviews that they really impressed.....all very eloquent & informative which I'm sorry to say one couldn't say about Oscar! Shame really! Never mind 14/15 Season's looking exciting all of a sudden. Keep the faith! UTA Sheil
  • Score: 11

8:24am Sat 14 Jun 14

Quiterie says...

Barber makes a good point that parachute payments can be largely used up paying the wages of players the teams don't even want.

The fact that there are so many teams in the Championship with parachute payments - 10 next season I think - suggests they're not that much use in getting back to the Premier League. Yes, QPR went straight back up last season (only just!), but that was nothing to do with parachute payments.

The plan is very clear - it's to just about stay within the Financial Fair Play rules every season and to finish in the top 6 every season. That strategy will eventually see us in the Premier League. It might not be this season, it might not be next season, but it will happen. It's very hard to argue against that strategy and I for one am enjoying the ride......
Barber makes a good point that parachute payments can be largely used up paying the wages of players the teams don't even want. The fact that there are so many teams in the Championship with parachute payments - 10 next season I think - suggests they're not that much use in getting back to the Premier League. Yes, QPR went straight back up last season (only just!), but that was nothing to do with parachute payments. The plan is very clear - it's to just about stay within the Financial Fair Play rules every season and to finish in the top 6 every season. That strategy will eventually see us in the Premier League. It might not be this season, it might not be next season, but it will happen. It's very hard to argue against that strategy and I for one am enjoying the ride...... Quiterie
  • Score: 24

8:48am Sat 14 Jun 14

mickagull says...

The gap in revenue between the premiership and the rest of the leagues is the problem. It a case of it our party and we don't won't to let you in, this will never change.
The gap in revenue between the premiership and the rest of the leagues is the problem. It a case of it our party and we don't won't to let you in, this will never change. mickagull
  • Score: 8

9:01am Sat 14 Jun 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -73

9:05am Sat 14 Jun 14

Justin says...

The Prem also seems to be deliberately sabotaging the League's FFP strategy by saying that promoted clubs fines must go to charity (not to the FFP-compliant Championship clubs as the FL wanted) and refusing to collect fines by withholding TV money. This means that if you flout FFP and get promoted you almost certainly get away with it, because the FL aren't going to take a QPR to court only for the money recovered to go to charity. Even so running a club like a proper business, which is all FFP is trying to make happen, is the only way to guarantee long term future for any club.
The Prem also seems to be deliberately sabotaging the League's FFP strategy by saying that promoted clubs fines must go to charity (not to the FFP-compliant Championship clubs as the FL wanted) and refusing to collect fines by withholding TV money. This means that if you flout FFP and get promoted you almost certainly get away with it, because the FL aren't going to take a QPR to court only for the money recovered to go to charity. Even so running a club like a proper business, which is all FFP is trying to make happen, is the only way to guarantee long term future for any club. Justin
  • Score: 20

9:10am Sat 14 Jun 14

The Phantom says...

Good to see acknowledgement that Burnley went up with a lesser budget and that Derby came 3rd with a similar budget - more of a positive take on the subject rather the continual bleating of the last few years. The points about parachute payments being swallowed up by inflated players' contracts is also very valid - Wolves were a case in point when they were relegated. Good positive vibes coming from Bloom and Barber this week and all of it appearing to be based on sound judgement.
Good to see acknowledgement that Burnley went up with a lesser budget and that Derby came 3rd with a similar budget - more of a positive take on the subject rather the continual bleating of the last few years. The points about parachute payments being swallowed up by inflated players' contracts is also very valid - Wolves were a case in point when they were relegated. Good positive vibes coming from Bloom and Barber this week and all of it appearing to be based on sound judgement. The Phantom
  • Score: 34

9:13am Sat 14 Jun 14

Justin says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.[/p][/quote]Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually. Justin
  • Score: 19

9:15am Sat 14 Jun 14

OldGull says...

Fully endorse the Albion approach
We may find it hard to break into the PL but at least we will have a sustainable club to support in future years.

I will be accused by certain fools of being unambititious.
My ambitition is not to do a Portsmouth.
So UTA and be patient.
Fully endorse the Albion approach We may find it hard to break into the PL but at least we will have a sustainable club to support in future years. I will be accused by certain fools of being unambititious. My ambitition is not to do a Portsmouth. So UTA and be patient. OldGull
  • Score: 30

9:20am Sat 14 Jun 14

mickagull says...

Justin wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.
Let's just hope we all live to see it, sobering thought.
[quote][p][bold]Justin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.[/p][/quote]Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.[/p][/quote]Let's just hope we all live to see it, sobering thought. mickagull
  • Score: 6

9:33am Sat 14 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs says...

It's both amazing and refreshing at the same time that most comments on here now reflect positivity after a little bit of positioning from the club.
To my mind, the words this week from Chairman, CEO and new manager paint a picture of determination and genuine ambition, all tinged with realism.
And as fans we're generally in support of the approach.
When there was a complete comment blackout during the manager search, the conspiracy theories ran riot. Just goes to show if you reflect optimism and honesty, people usually stand in line.
It's both amazing and refreshing at the same time that most comments on here now reflect positivity after a little bit of positioning from the club. To my mind, the words this week from Chairman, CEO and new manager paint a picture of determination and genuine ambition, all tinged with realism. And as fans we're generally in support of the approach. When there was a complete comment blackout during the manager search, the conspiracy theories ran riot. Just goes to show if you reflect optimism and honesty, people usually stand in line. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 27

9:37am Sat 14 Jun 14

cybergu11y says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal.
Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.[/p][/quote]Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal. Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support. cybergu11y
  • Score: 49

9:42am Sat 14 Jun 14

Max Ripple says...

Justin wrote:
The Prem also seems to be deliberately sabotaging the League's FFP strategy by saying that promoted clubs fines must go to charity (not to the FFP-compliant Championship clubs as the FL wanted) and refusing to collect fines by withholding TV money. This means that if you flout FFP and get promoted you almost certainly get away with it, because the FL aren't going to take a QPR to court only for the money recovered to go to charity. Even so running a club like a proper business, which is all FFP is trying to make happen, is the only way to guarantee long term future for any club.
Totally agree Justin. The PL have got their cosy club of teams and just want to keep it that way. As far as they're concerned, God forbid a team like Doncaster Rovers or MK Dons getting into the PL. Eeaargh - not cool enough for us!
The fault behind this - the untouchable Scudamore. I just don't know how he gets away with it on all counts.
The PL and FIFA are like twins. Like a pair of Mafia families making more and more money from their drug (football) at the expense of their addict customers (us).
[quote][p][bold]Justin[/bold] wrote: The Prem also seems to be deliberately sabotaging the League's FFP strategy by saying that promoted clubs fines must go to charity (not to the FFP-compliant Championship clubs as the FL wanted) and refusing to collect fines by withholding TV money. This means that if you flout FFP and get promoted you almost certainly get away with it, because the FL aren't going to take a QPR to court only for the money recovered to go to charity. Even so running a club like a proper business, which is all FFP is trying to make happen, is the only way to guarantee long term future for any club.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Justin. The PL have got their cosy club of teams and just want to keep it that way. As far as they're concerned, God forbid a team like Doncaster Rovers or MK Dons getting into the PL. Eeaargh - not cool enough for us! The fault behind this - the untouchable Scudamore. I just don't know how he gets away with it on all counts. The PL and FIFA are like twins. Like a pair of Mafia families making more and more money from their drug (football) at the expense of their addict customers (us). Max Ripple
  • Score: 14

10:19am Sat 14 Jun 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

cybergu11y wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal.
Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.
The novelty of the new stadium has worn off, the training complex and hotel is
just another means of lining the pockets of the suits. The appointment of Hyypia is a clear gamble when we could have gone for a proven candidate. Its all being done on the cheap while us supporters blindly throw our money at it. Ffp is a farce which has now worn thin and will not affect us like people say, we are sick of these boring people going on about ffp. Its time to stop messing about and just go for it and the waffle of excuses from the suits just needs to now stop. Thats how it is in the real world I'm afraid.
[quote][p][bold]cybergu11y[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.[/p][/quote]Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal. Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.[/p][/quote]The novelty of the new stadium has worn off, the training complex and hotel is just another means of lining the pockets of the suits. The appointment of Hyypia is a clear gamble when we could have gone for a proven candidate. Its all being done on the cheap while us supporters blindly throw our money at it. Ffp is a farce which has now worn thin and will not affect us like people say, we are sick of these boring people going on about ffp. Its time to stop messing about and just go for it and the waffle of excuses from the suits just needs to now stop. Thats how it is in the real world I'm afraid. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -62

10:21am Sat 14 Jun 14

B rian Tawses left foot says...

Mayfield sweeper says...


cybergu11y wrote:

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal.
Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.The novelty of the new stadium has worn off, the training complex and hotel is
just another means of lining the pockets of the suits. The appointment of Hyypia is a clear gamble when we could have gone for a proven candidate. Its all being done on the cheap while us supporters blindly throw our money at it. Ffp is a farce which has now worn thin and will not affect us like people say, we are sick of these boring people going on about ffp. Its time to stop messing about and just go for it and the waffle of excuses from the suits just needs to now stop. Thats how it is in the real world I'm afraid.

Total tripe.
Mayfield sweeper says... cybergu11y wrote: Mayfield sweeper wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new. Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal. Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.The novelty of the new stadium has worn off, the training complex and hotel is just another means of lining the pockets of the suits. The appointment of Hyypia is a clear gamble when we could have gone for a proven candidate. Its all being done on the cheap while us supporters blindly throw our money at it. Ffp is a farce which has now worn thin and will not affect us like people say, we are sick of these boring people going on about ffp. Its time to stop messing about and just go for it and the waffle of excuses from the suits just needs to now stop. Thats how it is in the real world I'm afraid. Total tripe. B rian Tawses left foot
  • Score: 25

11:13am Sat 14 Jun 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
Mayfield sweeper says...


cybergu11y wrote:

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal.
Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.The novelty of the new stadium has worn off, the training complex and hotel is
just another means of lining the pockets of the suits. The appointment of Hyypia is a clear gamble when we could have gone for a proven candidate. Its all being done on the cheap while us supporters blindly throw our money at it. Ffp is a farce which has now worn thin and will not affect us like people say, we are sick of these boring people going on about ffp. Its time to stop messing about and just go for it and the waffle of excuses from the suits just needs to now stop. Thats how it is in the real world I'm afraid.

Total tripe.
Yes that is all we get from this board, usually about ffp.
[quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: Mayfield sweeper says... cybergu11y wrote: Mayfield sweeper wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new. Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal. Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.The novelty of the new stadium has worn off, the training complex and hotel is just another means of lining the pockets of the suits. The appointment of Hyypia is a clear gamble when we could have gone for a proven candidate. Its all being done on the cheap while us supporters blindly throw our money at it. Ffp is a farce which has now worn thin and will not affect us like people say, we are sick of these boring people going on about ffp. Its time to stop messing about and just go for it and the waffle of excuses from the suits just needs to now stop. Thats how it is in the real world I'm afraid. Total tripe.[/p][/quote]Yes that is all we get from this board, usually about ffp. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -29

11:20am Sat 14 Jun 14

Cockwomble says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
cybergu11y wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal.
Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.
The novelty of the new stadium has worn off, the training complex and hotel is
just another means of lining the pockets of the suits. The appointment of Hyypia is a clear gamble when we could have gone for a proven candidate. Its all being done on the cheap while us supporters blindly throw our money at it. Ffp is a farce which has now worn thin and will not affect us like people say, we are sick of these boring people going on about ffp. Its time to stop messing about and just go for it and the waffle of excuses from the suits just needs to now stop. Thats how it is in the real world I'm afraid.
what a cockwomble
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cybergu11y[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.[/p][/quote]Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal. Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.[/p][/quote]The novelty of the new stadium has worn off, the training complex and hotel is just another means of lining the pockets of the suits. The appointment of Hyypia is a clear gamble when we could have gone for a proven candidate. Its all being done on the cheap while us supporters blindly throw our money at it. Ffp is a farce which has now worn thin and will not affect us like people say, we are sick of these boring people going on about ffp. Its time to stop messing about and just go for it and the waffle of excuses from the suits just needs to now stop. Thats how it is in the real world I'm afraid.[/p][/quote]what a cockwomble Cockwomble
  • Score: 15

11:31am Sat 14 Jun 14

JeffLomer says...

Morning I was working in Leicester on Friday got talking to a couple off foxes fans, they said that there third and last bid for Leo was in the region off five million, and there not going any higher on a championship player, they said they thought it was a good price, obviously the club didn't which is good news for us, they laughed when I said between 7-10 million valuation for him, they said Nugent will leave for Burnley because he has only been offered a year but has been offered 3years at Burnley, there also looking to ofload Chris Woods they said a championship club is interested but not sure who, they also thought Matt Upson signing was strange but he will only back up for injuries,
Up the Albion!!
Morning I was working in Leicester on Friday got talking to a couple off foxes fans, they said that there third and last bid for Leo was in the region off five million, and there not going any higher on a championship player, they said they thought it was a good price, obviously the club didn't which is good news for us, they laughed when I said between 7-10 million valuation for him, they said Nugent will leave for Burnley because he has only been offered a year but has been offered 3years at Burnley, there also looking to ofload Chris Woods they said a championship club is interested but not sure who, they also thought Matt Upson signing was strange but he will only back up for injuries, Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 6

11:45am Sat 14 Jun 14

pjwilk says...

mickagull wrote:
Justin wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.
Let's just hope we all live to see it, sobering thought.
There is just no ambition in our management team,it is all so negative.Barber is saying we can get in the top six despite having no money but relying on good fortune.You would think we had the lowest crowds and the worst budget.We may have to stay in the Championship for a few more years.Does he spread his doom and gloom around all the staff and players,taxi for Barber.Even newly promoted clubs say they are going for another promotion whats gone wrong with this club,we had more ambition at the Withdean.
[quote][p][bold]mickagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Justin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.[/p][/quote]Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.[/p][/quote]Let's just hope we all live to see it, sobering thought.[/p][/quote]There is just no ambition in our management team,it is all so negative.Barber is saying we can get in the top six despite having no money but relying on good fortune.You would think we had the lowest crowds and the worst budget.We may have to stay in the Championship for a few more years.Does he spread his doom and gloom around all the staff and players,taxi for Barber.Even newly promoted clubs say they are going for another promotion whats gone wrong with this club,we had more ambition at the Withdean. pjwilk
  • Score: -34

11:47am Sat 14 Jun 14

Cap'n Pugwash says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
cybergu11y wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal.
Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.
The novelty of the new stadium has worn off, the training complex and hotel is
just another means of lining the pockets of the suits. The appointment of Hyypia is a clear gamble when we could have gone for a proven candidate. Its all being done on the cheap while us supporters blindly throw our money at it. Ffp is a farce which has now worn thin and will not affect us like people say, we are sick of these boring people going on about ffp. Its time to stop messing about and just go for it and the waffle of excuses from the suits just needs to now stop. Thats how it is in the real world I'm afraid.
You're right, the novelty of the new stadium has worn off and the club are desperately looking for thousands of new season ticket holders to fill the gaps left by departing jcl's.
Are you naturally stupid or do you have to work at it? How exactly does the training Complex line the pockets of the suits? Where's the hotel? God, this site does my head in some times.
As for the Hyypia appointment-you are probably having difficulties here but he played and learned at one of the biggest clubs in the world, playing for some of the best managers in the world. For 10 years. Then he moved to Leverkusen and spent 5 years near the top of the Bundesliga, as a player and manager (where he got them to 2nd place and a Champions League place). He's a gamble all right and he is no doubt our latest 'on the cheap' managerial appointment.
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cybergu11y[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.[/p][/quote]Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal. Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.[/p][/quote]The novelty of the new stadium has worn off, the training complex and hotel is just another means of lining the pockets of the suits. The appointment of Hyypia is a clear gamble when we could have gone for a proven candidate. Its all being done on the cheap while us supporters blindly throw our money at it. Ffp is a farce which has now worn thin and will not affect us like people say, we are sick of these boring people going on about ffp. Its time to stop messing about and just go for it and the waffle of excuses from the suits just needs to now stop. Thats how it is in the real world I'm afraid.[/p][/quote]You're right, the novelty of the new stadium has worn off and the club are desperately looking for thousands of new season ticket holders to fill the gaps left by departing jcl's. Are you naturally stupid or do you have to work at it? How exactly does the training Complex line the pockets of the suits? Where's the hotel? God, this site does my head in some times. As for the Hyypia appointment-you are probably having difficulties here but he played and learned at one of the biggest clubs in the world, playing for some of the best managers in the world. For 10 years. Then he moved to Leverkusen and spent 5 years near the top of the Bundesliga, as a player and manager (where he got them to 2nd place and a Champions League place). He's a gamble all right and he is no doubt our latest 'on the cheap' managerial appointment. Cap'n Pugwash
  • Score: 24

11:55am Sat 14 Jun 14

Cap'n Pugwash says...

pjwilk wrote:
mickagull wrote:
Justin wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.
Let's just hope we all live to see it, sobering thought.
There is just no ambition in our management team,it is all so negative.Barber is saying we can get in the top six despite having no money but relying on good fortune.You would think we had the lowest crowds and the worst budget.We may have to stay in the Championship for a few more years.Does he spread his doom and gloom around all the staff and players,taxi for Barber.Even newly promoted clubs say they are going for another promotion whats gone wrong with this club,we had more ambition at the Withdean.
I think the Argus 'idiot magnet' has been turned up to full power today.

No ambition? There's a £35 MILLION training complex and academy opening for business in a few days. How much more ambition does the club have to show to satisfy people like you?
As for the club's budget-are you aware of what has caused The Albion to post the losses it has recently? Do I need to remind you of all of the losses racked up during the Withdean years? Losses that need getting out of the way in much the same way Arsenal did when they moved into The Emirates.
Argus, please turn the magnet down or even better-OFF!
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Justin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.[/p][/quote]Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.[/p][/quote]Let's just hope we all live to see it, sobering thought.[/p][/quote]There is just no ambition in our management team,it is all so negative.Barber is saying we can get in the top six despite having no money but relying on good fortune.You would think we had the lowest crowds and the worst budget.We may have to stay in the Championship for a few more years.Does he spread his doom and gloom around all the staff and players,taxi for Barber.Even newly promoted clubs say they are going for another promotion whats gone wrong with this club,we had more ambition at the Withdean.[/p][/quote]I think the Argus 'idiot magnet' has been turned up to full power today. No ambition? There's a £35 MILLION training complex and academy opening for business in a few days. How much more ambition does the club have to show to satisfy people like you? As for the club's budget-are you aware of what has caused The Albion to post the losses it has recently? Do I need to remind you of all of the losses racked up during the Withdean years? Losses that need getting out of the way in much the same way Arsenal did when they moved into The Emirates. Argus, please turn the magnet down or even better-OFF! Cap'n Pugwash
  • Score: 18

12:31pm Sat 14 Jun 14

pjwilk says...

Cap'n Pugwash wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
mickagull wrote:
Justin wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.
Let's just hope we all live to see it, sobering thought.
There is just no ambition in our management team,it is all so negative.Barber is saying we can get in the top six despite having no money but relying on good fortune.You would think we had the lowest crowds and the worst budget.We may have to stay in the Championship for a few more years.Does he spread his doom and gloom around all the staff and players,taxi for Barber.Even newly promoted clubs say they are going for another promotion whats gone wrong with this club,we had more ambition at the Withdean.
I think the Argus 'idiot magnet' has been turned up to full power today.

No ambition? There's a £35 MILLION training complex and academy opening for business in a few days. How much more ambition does the club have to show to satisfy people like you?
As for the club's budget-are you aware of what has caused The Albion to post the losses it has recently? Do I need to remind you of all of the losses racked up during the Withdean years? Losses that need getting out of the way in much the same way Arsenal did when they moved into The Emirates.
Argus, please turn the magnet down or even better-OFF!
All that infrastructure and money spent but left with a crap team,the fans dont care about all that money spent.We just want an exciting winning team to watch which we have not got,we have been bored to distraction since we have been at the Amex.This Management team has had us trading water for too long.
[quote][p][bold]Cap'n Pugwash[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Justin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.[/p][/quote]Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.[/p][/quote]Let's just hope we all live to see it, sobering thought.[/p][/quote]There is just no ambition in our management team,it is all so negative.Barber is saying we can get in the top six despite having no money but relying on good fortune.You would think we had the lowest crowds and the worst budget.We may have to stay in the Championship for a few more years.Does he spread his doom and gloom around all the staff and players,taxi for Barber.Even newly promoted clubs say they are going for another promotion whats gone wrong with this club,we had more ambition at the Withdean.[/p][/quote]I think the Argus 'idiot magnet' has been turned up to full power today. No ambition? There's a £35 MILLION training complex and academy opening for business in a few days. How much more ambition does the club have to show to satisfy people like you? As for the club's budget-are you aware of what has caused The Albion to post the losses it has recently? Do I need to remind you of all of the losses racked up during the Withdean years? Losses that need getting out of the way in much the same way Arsenal did when they moved into The Emirates. Argus, please turn the magnet down or even better-OFF![/p][/quote]All that infrastructure and money spent but left with a crap team,the fans dont care about all that money spent.We just want an exciting winning team to watch which we have not got,we have been bored to distraction since we have been at the Amex.This Management team has had us trading water for too long. pjwilk
  • Score: -22

12:43pm Sat 14 Jun 14

northernseagull says...

pjwilk wrote:
Cap'n Pugwash wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
mickagull wrote:
Justin wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.
Let's just hope we all live to see it, sobering thought.
There is just no ambition in our management team,it is all so negative.Barber is saying we can get in the top six despite having no money but relying on good fortune.You would think we had the lowest crowds and the worst budget.We may have to stay in the Championship for a few more years.Does he spread his doom and gloom around all the staff and players,taxi for Barber.Even newly promoted clubs say they are going for another promotion whats gone wrong with this club,we had more ambition at the Withdean.
I think the Argus 'idiot magnet' has been turned up to full power today.

No ambition? There's a £35 MILLION training complex and academy opening for business in a few days. How much more ambition does the club have to show to satisfy people like you?
As for the club's budget-are you aware of what has caused The Albion to post the losses it has recently? Do I need to remind you of all of the losses racked up during the Withdean years? Losses that need getting out of the way in much the same way Arsenal did when they moved into The Emirates.
Argus, please turn the magnet down or even better-OFF!
All that infrastructure and money spent but left with a crap team,the fans dont care about all that money spent.We just want an exciting winning team to watch which we have not got,we have been bored to distraction since we have been at the Amex.This Management team has had us trading water for too long.
clearly your knowledge of football and how to run a club is at about the same
Level as your spelling.
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cap'n Pugwash[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Justin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.[/p][/quote]Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.[/p][/quote]Let's just hope we all live to see it, sobering thought.[/p][/quote]There is just no ambition in our management team,it is all so negative.Barber is saying we can get in the top six despite having no money but relying on good fortune.You would think we had the lowest crowds and the worst budget.We may have to stay in the Championship for a few more years.Does he spread his doom and gloom around all the staff and players,taxi for Barber.Even newly promoted clubs say they are going for another promotion whats gone wrong with this club,we had more ambition at the Withdean.[/p][/quote]I think the Argus 'idiot magnet' has been turned up to full power today. No ambition? There's a £35 MILLION training complex and academy opening for business in a few days. How much more ambition does the club have to show to satisfy people like you? As for the club's budget-are you aware of what has caused The Albion to post the losses it has recently? Do I need to remind you of all of the losses racked up during the Withdean years? Losses that need getting out of the way in much the same way Arsenal did when they moved into The Emirates. Argus, please turn the magnet down or even better-OFF![/p][/quote]All that infrastructure and money spent but left with a crap team,the fans dont care about all that money spent.We just want an exciting winning team to watch which we have not got,we have been bored to distraction since we have been at the Amex.This Management team has had us trading water for too long.[/p][/quote]clearly your knowledge of football and how to run a club is at about the same Level as your spelling. northernseagull
  • Score: 12

1:07pm Sat 14 Jun 14

pte says...

Give Sami a break. There's no way he's going to win promotion in his first season! He needs to learn about the Championship and maybe in two or three years he'll do it. After all Gus had 3 years at it and failed even with Barber & Burke being smart. So fans need to be patient
Give Sami a break. There's no way he's going to win promotion in his first season! He needs to learn about the Championship and maybe in two or three years he'll do it. After all Gus had 3 years at it and failed even with Barber & Burke being smart. So fans need to be patient pte
  • Score: 1

1:07pm Sat 14 Jun 14

pjwilk says...

I know what exciting attacking football is and we dont have it,bet you get excited when you find a pound you didnt know you had.We are just trading water.(or treading big head)bet you dont have a rubber on your pencil Mr Perfect.
I know what exciting attacking football is and we dont have it,bet you get excited when you find a pound you didnt know you had.We are just trading water.(or treading big head)bet you dont have a rubber on your pencil Mr Perfect. pjwilk
  • Score: -17

1:19pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

Cap'n Pugwash wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
cybergu11y wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal.
Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.
The novelty of the new stadium has worn off, the training complex and hotel is
just another means of lining the pockets of the suits. The appointment of Hyypia is a clear gamble when we could have gone for a proven candidate. Its all being done on the cheap while us supporters blindly throw our money at it. Ffp is a farce which has now worn thin and will not affect us like people say, we are sick of these boring people going on about ffp. Its time to stop messing about and just go for it and the waffle of excuses from the suits just needs to now stop. Thats how it is in the real world I'm afraid.
You're right, the novelty of the new stadium has worn off and the club are desperately looking for thousands of new season ticket holders to fill the gaps left by departing jcl's.
Are you naturally stupid or do you have to work at it? How exactly does the training Complex line the pockets of the suits? Where's the hotel? God, this site does my head in some times.
As for the Hyypia appointment-you are probably having difficulties here but he played and learned at one of the biggest clubs in the world, playing for some of the best managers in the world. For 10 years. Then he moved to Leverkusen and spent 5 years near the top of the Bundesliga, as a player and manager (where he got them to 2nd place and a Champions League place). He's a gamble all right and he is no doubt our latest 'on the cheap' managerial appointment.
The training complex is there so players can be trained up and then sold just to comply with ffp. The hotel and accomodation will just be for lining pockets not to benefit the fans. We need more excitement and nothing that Bloom Burke and Barber say ever sounds very exciting. This swarm of B's is stinging us all to death. We should not be happy with ticking along we should be trying to win the league. Hyypia doesnt know this league but will learn but it might be too late by then and bloom has only given him shirt buttons to spend, we should be able to sign the best players if we want.
[quote][p][bold]Cap'n Pugwash[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cybergu11y[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.[/p][/quote]Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal. Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.[/p][/quote]The novelty of the new stadium has worn off, the training complex and hotel is just another means of lining the pockets of the suits. The appointment of Hyypia is a clear gamble when we could have gone for a proven candidate. Its all being done on the cheap while us supporters blindly throw our money at it. Ffp is a farce which has now worn thin and will not affect us like people say, we are sick of these boring people going on about ffp. Its time to stop messing about and just go for it and the waffle of excuses from the suits just needs to now stop. Thats how it is in the real world I'm afraid.[/p][/quote]You're right, the novelty of the new stadium has worn off and the club are desperately looking for thousands of new season ticket holders to fill the gaps left by departing jcl's. Are you naturally stupid or do you have to work at it? How exactly does the training Complex line the pockets of the suits? Where's the hotel? God, this site does my head in some times. As for the Hyypia appointment-you are probably having difficulties here but he played and learned at one of the biggest clubs in the world, playing for some of the best managers in the world. For 10 years. Then he moved to Leverkusen and spent 5 years near the top of the Bundesliga, as a player and manager (where he got them to 2nd place and a Champions League place). He's a gamble all right and he is no doubt our latest 'on the cheap' managerial appointment.[/p][/quote]The training complex is there so players can be trained up and then sold just to comply with ffp. The hotel and accomodation will just be for lining pockets not to benefit the fans. We need more excitement and nothing that Bloom Burke and Barber say ever sounds very exciting. This swarm of B's is stinging us all to death. We should not be happy with ticking along we should be trying to win the league. Hyypia doesnt know this league but will learn but it might be too late by then and bloom has only given him shirt buttons to spend, we should be able to sign the best players if we want. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -16

1:19pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Cap'n Pugwash says...

pjwilk wrote:
Cap'n Pugwash wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
mickagull wrote:
Justin wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.
Let's just hope we all live to see it, sobering thought.
There is just no ambition in our management team,it is all so negative.Barber is saying we can get in the top six despite having no money but relying on good fortune.You would think we had the lowest crowds and the worst budget.We may have to stay in the Championship for a few more years.Does he spread his doom and gloom around all the staff and players,taxi for Barber.Even newly promoted clubs say they are going for another promotion whats gone wrong with this club,we had more ambition at the Withdean.
I think the Argus 'idiot magnet' has been turned up to full power today.

No ambition? There's a £35 MILLION training complex and academy opening for business in a few days. How much more ambition does the club have to show to satisfy people like you?
As for the club's budget-are you aware of what has caused The Albion to post the losses it has recently? Do I need to remind you of all of the losses racked up during the Withdean years? Losses that need getting out of the way in much the same way Arsenal did when they moved into The Emirates.
Argus, please turn the magnet down or even better-OFF!
All that infrastructure and money spent but left with a crap team,the fans dont care about all that money spent.We just want an exciting winning team to watch which we have not got,we have been bored to distraction since we have been at the Amex.This Management team has had us trading water for too long.
It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

He knew what he was talking about did Mark Twain.
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cap'n Pugwash[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Justin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.[/p][/quote]Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.[/p][/quote]Let's just hope we all live to see it, sobering thought.[/p][/quote]There is just no ambition in our management team,it is all so negative.Barber is saying we can get in the top six despite having no money but relying on good fortune.You would think we had the lowest crowds and the worst budget.We may have to stay in the Championship for a few more years.Does he spread his doom and gloom around all the staff and players,taxi for Barber.Even newly promoted clubs say they are going for another promotion whats gone wrong with this club,we had more ambition at the Withdean.[/p][/quote]I think the Argus 'idiot magnet' has been turned up to full power today. No ambition? There's a £35 MILLION training complex and academy opening for business in a few days. How much more ambition does the club have to show to satisfy people like you? As for the club's budget-are you aware of what has caused The Albion to post the losses it has recently? Do I need to remind you of all of the losses racked up during the Withdean years? Losses that need getting out of the way in much the same way Arsenal did when they moved into The Emirates. Argus, please turn the magnet down or even better-OFF![/p][/quote]All that infrastructure and money spent but left with a crap team,the fans dont care about all that money spent.We just want an exciting winning team to watch which we have not got,we have been bored to distraction since we have been at the Amex.This Management team has had us trading water for too long.[/p][/quote]It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt. He knew what he was talking about did Mark Twain. Cap'n Pugwash
  • Score: 10

1:26pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

pte wrote:
Give Sami a break. There's no way he's going to win promotion in his first season! He needs to learn about the Championship and maybe in two or three years he'll do it. After all Gus had 3 years at it and failed even with Barber & Burke being smart. So fans need to be patient
No one should be judging hyypia yet, give it until the middle of november then we will know whether the gamble has paid off or backfired.
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: Give Sami a break. There's no way he's going to win promotion in his first season! He needs to learn about the Championship and maybe in two or three years he'll do it. After all Gus had 3 years at it and failed even with Barber & Burke being smart. So fans need to be patient[/p][/quote]No one should be judging hyypia yet, give it until the middle of november then we will know whether the gamble has paid off or backfired. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: 1

1:52pm Sat 14 Jun 14

cybergu11y says...

Cockwomble wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
cybergu11y wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal.
Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.
The novelty of the new stadium has worn off, the training complex and hotel is
just another means of lining the pockets of the suits. The appointment of Hyypia is a clear gamble when we could have gone for a proven candidate. Its all being done on the cheap while us supporters blindly throw our money at it. Ffp is a farce which has now worn thin and will not affect us like people say, we are sick of these boring people going on about ffp. Its time to stop messing about and just go for it and the waffle of excuses from the suits just needs to now stop. Thats how it is in the real world I'm afraid.
what a cockwomble
Well said Mr C, well said!
[quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cybergu11y[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.[/p][/quote]Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal. Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.[/p][/quote]The novelty of the new stadium has worn off, the training complex and hotel is just another means of lining the pockets of the suits. The appointment of Hyypia is a clear gamble when we could have gone for a proven candidate. Its all being done on the cheap while us supporters blindly throw our money at it. Ffp is a farce which has now worn thin and will not affect us like people say, we are sick of these boring people going on about ffp. Its time to stop messing about and just go for it and the waffle of excuses from the suits just needs to now stop. Thats how it is in the real world I'm afraid.[/p][/quote]what a cockwomble[/p][/quote]Well said Mr C, well said! cybergu11y
  • Score: 3

2:16pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Morning I was working in Leicester on Friday got talking to a couple off foxes fans, they said that there third and last bid for Leo was in the region off five million, and there not going any higher on a championship player, they said they thought it was a good price, obviously the club didn't which is good news for us, they laughed when I said between 7-10 million valuation for him, they said Nugent will leave for Burnley because he has only been offered a year but has been offered 3years at Burnley, there also looking to ofload Chris Woods they said a championship club is interested but not sure who, they also thought Matt Upson signing was strange but he will only back up for injuries,
Up the Albion!!
Interesting comment about Nugent. Looks like a similar scenario to when Burnley secured Ashley Barnes. Offer longer contract. This might be a good short term ploy but will probably backfire in the long run.
I think we need to show patience because the answer is not to throw money at the problem. That's if you count being a top 10 Championship side a problem! Getting to the PL is the aim but I think the Championship is a much more interesting league and finally getting to the PL will not be the utopia a lot of you think it is. It's basically a greed club that exists to line the pockets of the fat cats and does nothing to help grass roots football.
We'll get there eventually but it won't be an easy ride and it won't be an easy ride when we're there! Even with all that money. UTA
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Morning I was working in Leicester on Friday got talking to a couple off foxes fans, they said that there third and last bid for Leo was in the region off five million, and there not going any higher on a championship player, they said they thought it was a good price, obviously the club didn't which is good news for us, they laughed when I said between 7-10 million valuation for him, they said Nugent will leave for Burnley because he has only been offered a year but has been offered 3years at Burnley, there also looking to ofload Chris Woods they said a championship club is interested but not sure who, they also thought Matt Upson signing was strange but he will only back up for injuries, Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]Interesting comment about Nugent. Looks like a similar scenario to when Burnley secured Ashley Barnes. Offer longer contract. This might be a good short term ploy but will probably backfire in the long run. I think we need to show patience because the answer is not to throw money at the problem. That's if you count being a top 10 Championship side a problem! Getting to the PL is the aim but I think the Championship is a much more interesting league and finally getting to the PL will not be the utopia a lot of you think it is. It's basically a greed club that exists to line the pockets of the fat cats and does nothing to help grass roots football. We'll get there eventually but it won't be an easy ride and it won't be an easy ride when we're there! Even with all that money. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 12

2:19pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Cap'n Pugwash wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
cybergu11y wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal.
Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.
The novelty of the new stadium has worn off, the training complex and hotel is
just another means of lining the pockets of the suits. The appointment of Hyypia is a clear gamble when we could have gone for a proven candidate. Its all being done on the cheap while us supporters blindly throw our money at it. Ffp is a farce which has now worn thin and will not affect us like people say, we are sick of these boring people going on about ffp. Its time to stop messing about and just go for it and the waffle of excuses from the suits just needs to now stop. Thats how it is in the real world I'm afraid.
You're right, the novelty of the new stadium has worn off and the club are desperately looking for thousands of new season ticket holders to fill the gaps left by departing jcl's.
Are you naturally stupid or do you have to work at it? How exactly does the training Complex line the pockets of the suits? Where's the hotel? God, this site does my head in some times.
As for the Hyypia appointment-you are probably having difficulties here but he played and learned at one of the biggest clubs in the world, playing for some of the best managers in the world. For 10 years. Then he moved to Leverkusen and spent 5 years near the top of the Bundesliga, as a player and manager (where he got them to 2nd place and a Champions League place). He's a gamble all right and he is no doubt our latest 'on the cheap' managerial appointment.
The training complex is there so players can be trained up and then sold just to comply with ffp. The hotel and accomodation will just be for lining pockets not to benefit the fans. We need more excitement and nothing that Bloom Burke and Barber say ever sounds very exciting. This swarm of B's is stinging us all to death. We should not be happy with ticking along we should be trying to win the league. Hyypia doesnt know this league but will learn but it might be too late by then and bloom has only given him shirt buttons to spend, we should be able to sign the best players if we want.
Dear Mayfield sweeper.

Just a suggestion, but before you make sweeping statements about lack of ambition, suits lining their own pockets and general poor management at BHAFC, why not try understanding what it actually takes to run a top Championship club?

Your ridiculous statements do nothing for you except to prove your total ignorance.

Personally, if I was you I would keep quiet as you seem incapable of saying anything that doesn't make you look totally ignorant.

Have a nice day, preferably doing something elsewhere!!

UTA!!
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cap'n Pugwash[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cybergu11y[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.[/p][/quote]Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal. Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.[/p][/quote]The novelty of the new stadium has worn off, the training complex and hotel is just another means of lining the pockets of the suits. The appointment of Hyypia is a clear gamble when we could have gone for a proven candidate. Its all being done on the cheap while us supporters blindly throw our money at it. Ffp is a farce which has now worn thin and will not affect us like people say, we are sick of these boring people going on about ffp. Its time to stop messing about and just go for it and the waffle of excuses from the suits just needs to now stop. Thats how it is in the real world I'm afraid.[/p][/quote]You're right, the novelty of the new stadium has worn off and the club are desperately looking for thousands of new season ticket holders to fill the gaps left by departing jcl's. Are you naturally stupid or do you have to work at it? How exactly does the training Complex line the pockets of the suits? Where's the hotel? God, this site does my head in some times. As for the Hyypia appointment-you are probably having difficulties here but he played and learned at one of the biggest clubs in the world, playing for some of the best managers in the world. For 10 years. Then he moved to Leverkusen and spent 5 years near the top of the Bundesliga, as a player and manager (where he got them to 2nd place and a Champions League place). He's a gamble all right and he is no doubt our latest 'on the cheap' managerial appointment.[/p][/quote]The training complex is there so players can be trained up and then sold just to comply with ffp. The hotel and accomodation will just be for lining pockets not to benefit the fans. We need more excitement and nothing that Bloom Burke and Barber say ever sounds very exciting. This swarm of B's is stinging us all to death. We should not be happy with ticking along we should be trying to win the league. Hyypia doesnt know this league but will learn but it might be too late by then and bloom has only given him shirt buttons to spend, we should be able to sign the best players if we want.[/p][/quote]Dear Mayfield sweeper. Just a suggestion, but before you make sweeping statements about lack of ambition, suits lining their own pockets and general poor management at BHAFC, why not try understanding what it actually takes to run a top Championship club? Your ridiculous statements do nothing for you except to prove your total ignorance. Personally, if I was you I would keep quiet as you seem incapable of saying anything that doesn't make you look totally ignorant. Have a nice day, preferably doing something elsewhere!! UTA!! Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 17

2:22pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Cap'n Pugwash wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
cybergu11y wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal.
Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.
The novelty of the new stadium has worn off, the training complex and hotel is
just another means of lining the pockets of the suits. The appointment of Hyypia is a clear gamble when we could have gone for a proven candidate. Its all being done on the cheap while us supporters blindly throw our money at it. Ffp is a farce which has now worn thin and will not affect us like people say, we are sick of these boring people going on about ffp. Its time to stop messing about and just go for it and the waffle of excuses from the suits just needs to now stop. Thats how it is in the real world I'm afraid.
You're right, the novelty of the new stadium has worn off and the club are desperately looking for thousands of new season ticket holders to fill the gaps left by departing jcl's.
Are you naturally stupid or do you have to work at it? How exactly does the training Complex line the pockets of the suits? Where's the hotel? God, this site does my head in some times.
As for the Hyypia appointment-you are probably having difficulties here but he played and learned at one of the biggest clubs in the world, playing for some of the best managers in the world. For 10 years. Then he moved to Leverkusen and spent 5 years near the top of the Bundesliga, as a player and manager (where he got them to 2nd place and a Champions League place). He's a gamble all right and he is no doubt our latest 'on the cheap' managerial appointment.
The training complex is there so players can be trained up and then sold just to comply with ffp. The hotel and accomodation will just be for lining pockets not to benefit the fans. We need more excitement and nothing that Bloom Burke and Barber say ever sounds very exciting. This swarm of B's is stinging us all to death. We should not be happy with ticking along we should be trying to win the league. Hyypia doesnt know this league but will learn but it might be too late by then and bloom has only given him shirt buttons to spend, we should be able to sign the best players if we want.
Dear Mayfield sweeper.

Just a suggestion, but before you make sweeping statements about lack of ambition, suits lining their own pockets and general poor management at BHAFC, why not try understanding what it actually takes to run a top Championship club?

Your ridiculous statements do nothing for you except to prove your total ignorance.

Personally, if I was you I would keep quiet as you seem incapable of saying anything that doesn't make you look totally ignorant.

Have a nice day, preferably doing something elsewhere!!

UTA!!
Ps. The only reason you are getting so many "thumbs down" is because there isn't an option just to laugh at you. 😄
[quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cap'n Pugwash[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cybergu11y[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.[/p][/quote]Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal. Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.[/p][/quote]The novelty of the new stadium has worn off, the training complex and hotel is just another means of lining the pockets of the suits. The appointment of Hyypia is a clear gamble when we could have gone for a proven candidate. Its all being done on the cheap while us supporters blindly throw our money at it. Ffp is a farce which has now worn thin and will not affect us like people say, we are sick of these boring people going on about ffp. Its time to stop messing about and just go for it and the waffle of excuses from the suits just needs to now stop. Thats how it is in the real world I'm afraid.[/p][/quote]You're right, the novelty of the new stadium has worn off and the club are desperately looking for thousands of new season ticket holders to fill the gaps left by departing jcl's. Are you naturally stupid or do you have to work at it? How exactly does the training Complex line the pockets of the suits? Where's the hotel? God, this site does my head in some times. As for the Hyypia appointment-you are probably having difficulties here but he played and learned at one of the biggest clubs in the world, playing for some of the best managers in the world. For 10 years. Then he moved to Leverkusen and spent 5 years near the top of the Bundesliga, as a player and manager (where he got them to 2nd place and a Champions League place). He's a gamble all right and he is no doubt our latest 'on the cheap' managerial appointment.[/p][/quote]The training complex is there so players can be trained up and then sold just to comply with ffp. The hotel and accomodation will just be for lining pockets not to benefit the fans. We need more excitement and nothing that Bloom Burke and Barber say ever sounds very exciting. This swarm of B's is stinging us all to death. We should not be happy with ticking along we should be trying to win the league. Hyypia doesnt know this league but will learn but it might be too late by then and bloom has only given him shirt buttons to spend, we should be able to sign the best players if we want.[/p][/quote]Dear Mayfield sweeper. Just a suggestion, but before you make sweeping statements about lack of ambition, suits lining their own pockets and general poor management at BHAFC, why not try understanding what it actually takes to run a top Championship club? Your ridiculous statements do nothing for you except to prove your total ignorance. Personally, if I was you I would keep quiet as you seem incapable of saying anything that doesn't make you look totally ignorant. Have a nice day, preferably doing something elsewhere!! UTA!![/p][/quote]Ps. The only reason you are getting so many "thumbs down" is because there isn't an option just to laugh at you. 😄 Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 8

2:31pm Sat 14 Jun 14

B rian Tawses left foot says...

B rian Tawses left foot says...

Mayfield sweeper says...


cybergu11y wrote:

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal.
Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.The novelty of the new stadium has worn off, the training complex and hotel is
just another means of lining the pockets of the suits. The appointment of Hyypia is a clear gamble when we could have gone for a proven candidate. Its all being done on the cheap while us supporters blindly throw our money at it. Ffp is a farce which has now worn thin and will not affect us like people say, we are sick of these boring people going on about ffp. Its time to stop messing about and just go for it and the waffle of excuses from the suits just needs to now stop. Thats how it is in the real world I'm afraid.

If you have evidence that the club's administrators are personally benefiting financially from the developments that the club are undertaking then it is your bounden duty as a supporter, and more importantly as a law abiding citizen to approach the police with your evidence. Both you and I know this will not happen as the scenario you have described exists only in your pea sized brain. Do you have the intellect to understand the concept of libel - or that you have opened yourself up to the very prospect that you may be prosecuted for it?
B rian Tawses left foot says... Mayfield sweeper says... cybergu11y wrote: Mayfield sweeper wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new. Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal. Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.The novelty of the new stadium has worn off, the training complex and hotel is just another means of lining the pockets of the suits. The appointment of Hyypia is a clear gamble when we could have gone for a proven candidate. Its all being done on the cheap while us supporters blindly throw our money at it. Ffp is a farce which has now worn thin and will not affect us like people say, we are sick of these boring people going on about ffp. Its time to stop messing about and just go for it and the waffle of excuses from the suits just needs to now stop. Thats how it is in the real world I'm afraid. If you have evidence that the club's administrators are personally benefiting financially from the developments that the club are undertaking then it is your bounden duty as a supporter, and more importantly as a law abiding citizen to approach the police with your evidence. Both you and I know this will not happen as the scenario you have described exists only in your pea sized brain. Do you have the intellect to understand the concept of libel - or that you have opened yourself up to the very prospect that you may be prosecuted for it? B rian Tawses left foot
  • Score: 3

3:51pm Sat 14 Jun 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

Cap'n Pugwash wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
mickagull wrote:
Justin wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.
Let's just hope we all live to see it, sobering thought.
There is just no ambition in our management team,it is all so negative.Barber is saying we can get in the top six despite having no money but relying on good fortune.You would think we had the lowest crowds and the worst budget.We may have to stay in the Championship for a few more years.Does he spread his doom and gloom around all the staff and players,taxi for Barber.Even newly promoted clubs say they are going for another promotion whats gone wrong with this club,we had more ambition at the Withdean.
I think the Argus 'idiot magnet' has been turned up to full power today.

No ambition? There's a £35 MILLION training complex and academy opening for business in a few days. How much more ambition does the club have to show to satisfy people like you?
As for the club's budget-are you aware of what has caused The Albion to post the losses it has recently? Do I need to remind you of all of the losses racked up during the Withdean years? Losses that need getting out of the way in much the same way Arsenal did when they moved into The Emirates.
Argus, please turn the magnet down or even better-OFF!
Agree with some of what you say,but the part about the withdean years,don't understand.

The club has gone around 6 Million deeper in the red since then ???
[quote][p][bold]Cap'n Pugwash[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Justin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.[/p][/quote]Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.[/p][/quote]Let's just hope we all live to see it, sobering thought.[/p][/quote]There is just no ambition in our management team,it is all so negative.Barber is saying we can get in the top six despite having no money but relying on good fortune.You would think we had the lowest crowds and the worst budget.We may have to stay in the Championship for a few more years.Does he spread his doom and gloom around all the staff and players,taxi for Barber.Even newly promoted clubs say they are going for another promotion whats gone wrong with this club,we had more ambition at the Withdean.[/p][/quote]I think the Argus 'idiot magnet' has been turned up to full power today. No ambition? There's a £35 MILLION training complex and academy opening for business in a few days. How much more ambition does the club have to show to satisfy people like you? As for the club's budget-are you aware of what has caused The Albion to post the losses it has recently? Do I need to remind you of all of the losses racked up during the Withdean years? Losses that need getting out of the way in much the same way Arsenal did when they moved into The Emirates. Argus, please turn the magnet down or even better-OFF![/p][/quote]Agree with some of what you say,but the part about the withdean years,don't understand. The club has gone around 6 Million deeper in the red since then ??? don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 3

4:06pm Sat 14 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

I guess now that we have a manager those that simply comment for effect have to turn their attentions elsewhere. Today these people tell of the club not having ambition, I guess the way in whicvh Hyypia has rebuilt our squad proves this, you know, all these recent signings that actually have not taken place yet.

Parachute payments do lead to an uneven playing field, we know that and clearly Barber knows that, but we didn't make the rules, it is what it is and we have to live with that fact. As a Championship club we have to look to other sources for income, the proposed hotel being just one of them, would the trolls on here rather we didn't have a chance of that income stream?

In and around the top six with a squad that might leak a few extra goals this season, but also score more often, will see us gain more television time, and with Sky Sports paying in excess of 200K per match, and BeIn Sport paying around half what ever Sky pay, our income will rise from that of last year. Hyypia holds the key to this revenue stream, up the entertainment level and you up the income.
I guess now that we have a manager those that simply comment for effect have to turn their attentions elsewhere. Today these people tell of the club not having ambition, I guess the way in whicvh Hyypia has rebuilt our squad proves this, you know, all these recent signings that actually have not taken place yet. Parachute payments do lead to an uneven playing field, we know that and clearly Barber knows that, but we didn't make the rules, it is what it is and we have to live with that fact. As a Championship club we have to look to other sources for income, the proposed hotel being just one of them, would the trolls on here rather we didn't have a chance of that income stream? In and around the top six with a squad that might leak a few extra goals this season, but also score more often, will see us gain more television time, and with Sky Sports paying in excess of 200K per match, and BeIn Sport paying around half what ever Sky pay, our income will rise from that of last year. Hyypia holds the key to this revenue stream, up the entertainment level and you up the income. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

4:28pm Sat 14 Jun 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
I guess now that we have a manager those that simply comment for effect have to turn their attentions elsewhere. Today these people tell of the club not having ambition, I guess the way in whicvh Hyypia has rebuilt our squad proves this, you know, all these recent signings that actually have not taken place yet.

Parachute payments do lead to an uneven playing field, we know that and clearly Barber knows that, but we didn't make the rules, it is what it is and we have to live with that fact. As a Championship club we have to look to other sources for income, the proposed hotel being just one of them, would the trolls on here rather we didn't have a chance of that income stream?

In and around the top six with a squad that might leak a few extra goals this season, but also score more often, will see us gain more television time, and with Sky Sports paying in excess of 200K per match, and BeIn Sport paying around half what ever Sky pay, our income will rise from that of last year. Hyypia holds the key to this revenue stream, up the entertainment level and you up the income.
First part ???

Second part,how much do Albion get from eg Rod stewart concert etc.

Third part Albion have NEVER been popular for Sky.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I guess now that we have a manager those that simply comment for effect have to turn their attentions elsewhere. Today these people tell of the club not having ambition, I guess the way in whicvh Hyypia has rebuilt our squad proves this, you know, all these recent signings that actually have not taken place yet. Parachute payments do lead to an uneven playing field, we know that and clearly Barber knows that, but we didn't make the rules, it is what it is and we have to live with that fact. As a Championship club we have to look to other sources for income, the proposed hotel being just one of them, would the trolls on here rather we didn't have a chance of that income stream? In and around the top six with a squad that might leak a few extra goals this season, but also score more often, will see us gain more television time, and with Sky Sports paying in excess of 200K per match, and BeIn Sport paying around half what ever Sky pay, our income will rise from that of last year. Hyypia holds the key to this revenue stream, up the entertainment level and you up the income.[/p][/quote]First part ??? Second part,how much do Albion get from eg Rod stewart concert etc. Third part Albion have NEVER been popular for Sky. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 4

5:13pm Sat 14 Jun 14

JeffLomer says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
Morning I was working in Leicester on Friday got talking to a couple off foxes fans, they said that there third and last bid for Leo was in the region off five million, and there not going any higher on a championship player, they said they thought it was a good price, obviously the club didn't which is good news for us, they laughed when I said between 7-10 million valuation for him, they said Nugent will leave for Burnley because he has only been offered a year but has been offered 3years at Burnley, there also looking to ofload Chris Woods they said a championship club is interested but not sure who, they also thought Matt Upson signing was strange but he will only back up for injuries,
Up the Albion!!
Interesting comment about Nugent. Looks like a similar scenario to when Burnley secured Ashley Barnes. Offer longer contract. This might be a good short term ploy but will probably backfire in the long run.
I think we need to show patience because the answer is not to throw money at the problem. That's if you count being a top 10 Championship side a problem! Getting to the PL is the aim but I think the Championship is a much more interesting league and finally getting to the PL will not be the utopia a lot of you think it is. It's basically a greed club that exists to line the pockets of the fat cats and does nothing to help grass roots football.
We'll get there eventually but it won't be an easy ride and it won't be an easy ride when we're there! Even with all that money. UTA
Hi Grandad, With the Nugent contract they won't offer longer than a year were I was told Burnley will give him three years, it's to do with being over thirty, they let dyer go for same reason offered a year joined Watford on three year deal, only fan talk so take how you like!!
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Morning I was working in Leicester on Friday got talking to a couple off foxes fans, they said that there third and last bid for Leo was in the region off five million, and there not going any higher on a championship player, they said they thought it was a good price, obviously the club didn't which is good news for us, they laughed when I said between 7-10 million valuation for him, they said Nugent will leave for Burnley because he has only been offered a year but has been offered 3years at Burnley, there also looking to ofload Chris Woods they said a championship club is interested but not sure who, they also thought Matt Upson signing was strange but he will only back up for injuries, Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]Interesting comment about Nugent. Looks like a similar scenario to when Burnley secured Ashley Barnes. Offer longer contract. This might be a good short term ploy but will probably backfire in the long run. I think we need to show patience because the answer is not to throw money at the problem. That's if you count being a top 10 Championship side a problem! Getting to the PL is the aim but I think the Championship is a much more interesting league and finally getting to the PL will not be the utopia a lot of you think it is. It's basically a greed club that exists to line the pockets of the fat cats and does nothing to help grass roots football. We'll get there eventually but it won't be an easy ride and it won't be an easy ride when we're there! Even with all that money. UTA[/p][/quote]Hi Grandad, With the Nugent contract they won't offer longer than a year were I was told Burnley will give him three years, it's to do with being over thirty, they let dyer go for same reason offered a year joined Watford on three year deal, only fan talk so take how you like!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 0

5:14pm Sat 14 Jun 14

daughter-of-manag says...

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Cap'n Pugwash wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
cybergu11y wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal.
Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.
The novelty of the new stadium has worn off, the training complex and hotel is
just another means of lining the pockets of the suits. The appointment of Hyypia is a clear gamble when we could have gone for a proven candidate. Its all being done on the cheap while us supporters blindly throw our money at it. Ffp is a farce which has now worn thin and will not affect us like people say, we are sick of these boring people going on about ffp. Its time to stop messing about and just go for it and the waffle of excuses from the suits just needs to now stop. Thats how it is in the real world I'm afraid.
You're right, the novelty of the new stadium has worn off and the club are desperately looking for thousands of new season ticket holders to fill the gaps left by departing jcl's.
Are you naturally stupid or do you have to work at it? How exactly does the training Complex line the pockets of the suits? Where's the hotel? God, this site does my head in some times.
As for the Hyypia appointment-you are probably having difficulties here but he played and learned at one of the biggest clubs in the world, playing for some of the best managers in the world. For 10 years. Then he moved to Leverkusen and spent 5 years near the top of the Bundesliga, as a player and manager (where he got them to 2nd place and a Champions League place). He's a gamble all right and he is no doubt our latest 'on the cheap' managerial appointment.
The training complex is there so players can be trained up and then sold just to comply with ffp. The hotel and accomodation will just be for lining pockets not to benefit the fans. We need more excitement and nothing that Bloom Burke and Barber say ever sounds very exciting. This swarm of B's is stinging us all to death. We should not be happy with ticking along we should be trying to win the league. Hyypia doesnt know this league but will learn but it might be too late by then and bloom has only given him shirt buttons to spend, we should be able to sign the best players if we want.
Dear Mayfield sweeper.

Just a suggestion, but before you make sweeping statements about lack of ambition, suits lining their own pockets and general poor management at BHAFC, why not try understanding what it actually takes to run a top Championship club?

Your ridiculous statements do nothing for you except to prove your total ignorance.

Personally, if I was you I would keep quiet as you seem incapable of saying anything that doesn't make you look totally ignorant.

Have a nice day, preferably doing something elsewhere!!

UTA!!
OMG the guy is just voicing his opinion on a website - yet you flame him like the an intolerant troll that you (and some of you others) are. Meanwhile your opinion is intelligent, balanced and correct? ??? No, you just resort to name calling and vitriol. Try debating or discussing for a change, rather than personally insulting a view that is different from your very limited lens.
[quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cap'n Pugwash[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cybergu11y[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.[/p][/quote]Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal. Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.[/p][/quote]The novelty of the new stadium has worn off, the training complex and hotel is just another means of lining the pockets of the suits. The appointment of Hyypia is a clear gamble when we could have gone for a proven candidate. Its all being done on the cheap while us supporters blindly throw our money at it. Ffp is a farce which has now worn thin and will not affect us like people say, we are sick of these boring people going on about ffp. Its time to stop messing about and just go for it and the waffle of excuses from the suits just needs to now stop. Thats how it is in the real world I'm afraid.[/p][/quote]You're right, the novelty of the new stadium has worn off and the club are desperately looking for thousands of new season ticket holders to fill the gaps left by departing jcl's. Are you naturally stupid or do you have to work at it? How exactly does the training Complex line the pockets of the suits? Where's the hotel? God, this site does my head in some times. As for the Hyypia appointment-you are probably having difficulties here but he played and learned at one of the biggest clubs in the world, playing for some of the best managers in the world. For 10 years. Then he moved to Leverkusen and spent 5 years near the top of the Bundesliga, as a player and manager (where he got them to 2nd place and a Champions League place). He's a gamble all right and he is no doubt our latest 'on the cheap' managerial appointment.[/p][/quote]The training complex is there so players can be trained up and then sold just to comply with ffp. The hotel and accomodation will just be for lining pockets not to benefit the fans. We need more excitement and nothing that Bloom Burke and Barber say ever sounds very exciting. This swarm of B's is stinging us all to death. We should not be happy with ticking along we should be trying to win the league. Hyypia doesnt know this league but will learn but it might be too late by then and bloom has only given him shirt buttons to spend, we should be able to sign the best players if we want.[/p][/quote]Dear Mayfield sweeper. Just a suggestion, but before you make sweeping statements about lack of ambition, suits lining their own pockets and general poor management at BHAFC, why not try understanding what it actually takes to run a top Championship club? Your ridiculous statements do nothing for you except to prove your total ignorance. Personally, if I was you I would keep quiet as you seem incapable of saying anything that doesn't make you look totally ignorant. Have a nice day, preferably doing something elsewhere!! UTA!![/p][/quote]OMG the guy is just voicing his opinion on a website - yet you flame him like the an intolerant troll that you (and some of you others) are. Meanwhile your opinion is intelligent, balanced and correct? ??? No, you just resort to name calling and vitriol. Try debating or discussing for a change, rather than personally insulting a view that is different from your very limited lens. daughter-of-manag
  • Score: -1

5:31pm Sat 14 Jun 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

daughter-of-manag wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Cap'n Pugwash wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
cybergu11y wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal.
Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.
The novelty of the new stadium has worn off, the training complex and hotel is
just another means of lining the pockets of the suits. The appointment of Hyypia is a clear gamble when we could have gone for a proven candidate. Its all being done on the cheap while us supporters blindly throw our money at it. Ffp is a farce which has now worn thin and will not affect us like people say, we are sick of these boring people going on about ffp. Its time to stop messing about and just go for it and the waffle of excuses from the suits just needs to now stop. Thats how it is in the real world I'm afraid.
You're right, the novelty of the new stadium has worn off and the club are desperately looking for thousands of new season ticket holders to fill the gaps left by departing jcl's.
Are you naturally stupid or do you have to work at it? How exactly does the training Complex line the pockets of the suits? Where's the hotel? God, this site does my head in some times.
As for the Hyypia appointment-you are probably having difficulties here but he played and learned at one of the biggest clubs in the world, playing for some of the best managers in the world. For 10 years. Then he moved to Leverkusen and spent 5 years near the top of the Bundesliga, as a player and manager (where he got them to 2nd place and a Champions League place). He's a gamble all right and he is no doubt our latest 'on the cheap' managerial appointment.
The training complex is there so players can be trained up and then sold just to comply with ffp. The hotel and accomodation will just be for lining pockets not to benefit the fans. We need more excitement and nothing that Bloom Burke and Barber say ever sounds very exciting. This swarm of B's is stinging us all to death. We should not be happy with ticking along we should be trying to win the league. Hyypia doesnt know this league but will learn but it might be too late by then and bloom has only given him shirt buttons to spend, we should be able to sign the best players if we want.
Dear Mayfield sweeper.

Just a suggestion, but before you make sweeping statements about lack of ambition, suits lining their own pockets and general poor management at BHAFC, why not try understanding what it actually takes to run a top Championship club?

Your ridiculous statements do nothing for you except to prove your total ignorance.

Personally, if I was you I would keep quiet as you seem incapable of saying anything that doesn't make you look totally ignorant.

Have a nice day, preferably doing something elsewhere!!

UTA!!
OMG the guy is just voicing his opinion on a website - yet you flame him like the an intolerant troll that you (and some of you others) are. Meanwhile your opinion is intelligent, balanced and correct? ??? No, you just resort to name calling and vitriol. Try debating or discussing for a change, rather than personally insulting a view that is different from your very limited lens.
Brilliant great post although i do not agree with some posts,everyone has the right to post(say) voice their point of view.

Some on here think they own the site.and are god's gift to earth.
[quote][p][bold]daughter-of-manag[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cap'n Pugwash[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cybergu11y[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.[/p][/quote]Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal. Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.[/p][/quote]The novelty of the new stadium has worn off, the training complex and hotel is just another means of lining the pockets of the suits. The appointment of Hyypia is a clear gamble when we could have gone for a proven candidate. Its all being done on the cheap while us supporters blindly throw our money at it. Ffp is a farce which has now worn thin and will not affect us like people say, we are sick of these boring people going on about ffp. Its time to stop messing about and just go for it and the waffle of excuses from the suits just needs to now stop. Thats how it is in the real world I'm afraid.[/p][/quote]You're right, the novelty of the new stadium has worn off and the club are desperately looking for thousands of new season ticket holders to fill the gaps left by departing jcl's. Are you naturally stupid or do you have to work at it? How exactly does the training Complex line the pockets of the suits? Where's the hotel? God, this site does my head in some times. As for the Hyypia appointment-you are probably having difficulties here but he played and learned at one of the biggest clubs in the world, playing for some of the best managers in the world. For 10 years. Then he moved to Leverkusen and spent 5 years near the top of the Bundesliga, as a player and manager (where he got them to 2nd place and a Champions League place). He's a gamble all right and he is no doubt our latest 'on the cheap' managerial appointment.[/p][/quote]The training complex is there so players can be trained up and then sold just to comply with ffp. The hotel and accomodation will just be for lining pockets not to benefit the fans. We need more excitement and nothing that Bloom Burke and Barber say ever sounds very exciting. This swarm of B's is stinging us all to death. We should not be happy with ticking along we should be trying to win the league. Hyypia doesnt know this league but will learn but it might be too late by then and bloom has only given him shirt buttons to spend, we should be able to sign the best players if we want.[/p][/quote]Dear Mayfield sweeper. Just a suggestion, but before you make sweeping statements about lack of ambition, suits lining their own pockets and general poor management at BHAFC, why not try understanding what it actually takes to run a top Championship club? Your ridiculous statements do nothing for you except to prove your total ignorance. Personally, if I was you I would keep quiet as you seem incapable of saying anything that doesn't make you look totally ignorant. Have a nice day, preferably doing something elsewhere!! UTA!![/p][/quote]OMG the guy is just voicing his opinion on a website - yet you flame him like the an intolerant troll that you (and some of you others) are. Meanwhile your opinion is intelligent, balanced and correct? ??? No, you just resort to name calling and vitriol. Try debating or discussing for a change, rather than personally insulting a view that is different from your very limited lens.[/p][/quote]Brilliant great post although i do not agree with some posts,everyone has the right to post(say) voice their point of view. Some on here think they own the site.and are god's gift to earth. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 4

5:31pm Sat 14 Jun 14

gordongull says...

Paul Barber couldn't have outlined the situation any better. There is no lack of ambition just an understanding of the difficulties that the Club faces in order to achieve promotion to the top flight.
Cardiff and Hull spent £31m and £26m respectively to assemble teams capable of automatic promotion.. For a Club like B&HA, that kind of investment just isn't an option.
There are clearly defined limits to the amount that can be spent on players and their wages. Anyone who compares the stadium and training facilities with the quality of the team, is missing the point that money spent on infrastructure is excluded from FFP.
Mr Barber is confident that we can compete again, but to make wild predictions about a top two finish, would seriously damage his credibility. The emphasis on being smarter than the wealthy clubs shows that our ambition is driven by intelligence, not delusion.
The Head of Football Operations is here to stay, so it was encouraging to get official acknowledgement that the Manager will be significantly involved in player recruitment. I would prefer to think I was supporting Sami's team than one put together by the DOF.
Apparently Mr Bloom has made funds available for team rebuilding, but the Club is being run on a sound financial basis, and that is not going to change.
A rewarding working relationship looks probable between Sami and David Burke, (Sami doesn't look like a yes-man).
It all looks good, and I can't think of anyone to have a pop at.
Any suggestions?
Paul Barber couldn't have outlined the situation any better. There is no lack of ambition just an understanding of the difficulties that the Club faces in order to achieve promotion to the top flight. Cardiff and Hull spent £31m and £26m respectively to assemble teams capable of automatic promotion.. For a Club like B&HA, that kind of investment just isn't an option. There are clearly defined limits to the amount that can be spent on players and their wages. Anyone who compares the stadium and training facilities with the quality of the team, is missing the point that money spent on infrastructure is excluded from FFP. Mr Barber is confident that we can compete again, but to make wild predictions about a top two finish, would seriously damage his credibility. The emphasis on being smarter than the wealthy clubs shows that our ambition is driven by intelligence, not delusion. The Head of Football Operations is here to stay, so it was encouraging to get official acknowledgement that the Manager will be significantly involved in player recruitment. I would prefer to think I was supporting Sami's team than one put together by the DOF. Apparently Mr Bloom has made funds available for team rebuilding, but the Club is being run on a sound financial basis, and that is not going to change. A rewarding working relationship looks probable between Sami and David Burke, (Sami doesn't look like a yes-man). It all looks good, and I can't think of anyone to have a pop at. Any suggestions? gordongull
  • Score: 8

5:50pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

don't wanna do it like that wrote:
daughter-of-manag wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Cap'n Pugwash wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
cybergu11y wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal.
Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.
The novelty of the new stadium has worn off, the training complex and hotel is
just another means of lining the pockets of the suits. The appointment of Hyypia is a clear gamble when we could have gone for a proven candidate. Its all being done on the cheap while us supporters blindly throw our money at it. Ffp is a farce which has now worn thin and will not affect us like people say, we are sick of these boring people going on about ffp. Its time to stop messing about and just go for it and the waffle of excuses from the suits just needs to now stop. Thats how it is in the real world I'm afraid.
You're right, the novelty of the new stadium has worn off and the club are desperately looking for thousands of new season ticket holders to fill the gaps left by departing jcl's.
Are you naturally stupid or do you have to work at it? How exactly does the training Complex line the pockets of the suits? Where's the hotel? God, this site does my head in some times.
As for the Hyypia appointment-you are probably having difficulties here but he played and learned at one of the biggest clubs in the world, playing for some of the best managers in the world. For 10 years. Then he moved to Leverkusen and spent 5 years near the top of the Bundesliga, as a player and manager (where he got them to 2nd place and a Champions League place). He's a gamble all right and he is no doubt our latest 'on the cheap' managerial appointment.
The training complex is there so players can be trained up and then sold just to comply with ffp. The hotel and accomodation will just be for lining pockets not to benefit the fans. We need more excitement and nothing that Bloom Burke and Barber say ever sounds very exciting. This swarm of B's is stinging us all to death. We should not be happy with ticking along we should be trying to win the league. Hyypia doesnt know this league but will learn but it might be too late by then and bloom has only given him shirt buttons to spend, we should be able to sign the best players if we want.
Dear Mayfield sweeper.

Just a suggestion, but before you make sweeping statements about lack of ambition, suits lining their own pockets and general poor management at BHAFC, why not try understanding what it actually takes to run a top Championship club?

Your ridiculous statements do nothing for you except to prove your total ignorance.

Personally, if I was you I would keep quiet as you seem incapable of saying anything that doesn't make you look totally ignorant.

Have a nice day, preferably doing something elsewhere!!

UTA!!
OMG the guy is just voicing his opinion on a website - yet you flame him like the an intolerant troll that you (and some of you others) are. Meanwhile your opinion is intelligent, balanced and correct? ??? No, you just resort to name calling and vitriol. Try debating or discussing for a change, rather than personally insulting a view that is different from your very limited lens.
Brilliant great post although i do not agree with some posts,everyone has the right to post(say) voice their point of view.

Some on here think they own the site.and are god's gift to earth.
Okay, takes a small step back an admits there was probably a touch more vitriol in my outburst than was necessary.

But.....

I take exception to people who seem to come on here purely to have a dog at the club that I love and support. Mayfield sweeper seems only interested in trying to criticise the management of BHAFC at a time when things are being made very open and clear by them and when, with new manager installed, true fans would be both optimistic and supportive.

So I take back the vitriol but completely stand by my sentiment that this club is professionally, and above all, sensibly run. And I reserve the right to defend that view until my dying breath.

Now, who was it that daughter-of-manag was accusing of being a troll? Perhaps she would kindly re-read Mayfield sweeper's comments and mine and take THAT back??!

UTA!!
[quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]daughter-of-manag[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cap'n Pugwash[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cybergu11y[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.[/p][/quote]Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal. Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.[/p][/quote]The novelty of the new stadium has worn off, the training complex and hotel is just another means of lining the pockets of the suits. The appointment of Hyypia is a clear gamble when we could have gone for a proven candidate. Its all being done on the cheap while us supporters blindly throw our money at it. Ffp is a farce which has now worn thin and will not affect us like people say, we are sick of these boring people going on about ffp. Its time to stop messing about and just go for it and the waffle of excuses from the suits just needs to now stop. Thats how it is in the real world I'm afraid.[/p][/quote]You're right, the novelty of the new stadium has worn off and the club are desperately looking for thousands of new season ticket holders to fill the gaps left by departing jcl's. Are you naturally stupid or do you have to work at it? How exactly does the training Complex line the pockets of the suits? Where's the hotel? God, this site does my head in some times. As for the Hyypia appointment-you are probably having difficulties here but he played and learned at one of the biggest clubs in the world, playing for some of the best managers in the world. For 10 years. Then he moved to Leverkusen and spent 5 years near the top of the Bundesliga, as a player and manager (where he got them to 2nd place and a Champions League place). He's a gamble all right and he is no doubt our latest 'on the cheap' managerial appointment.[/p][/quote]The training complex is there so players can be trained up and then sold just to comply with ffp. The hotel and accomodation will just be for lining pockets not to benefit the fans. We need more excitement and nothing that Bloom Burke and Barber say ever sounds very exciting. This swarm of B's is stinging us all to death. We should not be happy with ticking along we should be trying to win the league. Hyypia doesnt know this league but will learn but it might be too late by then and bloom has only given him shirt buttons to spend, we should be able to sign the best players if we want.[/p][/quote]Dear Mayfield sweeper. Just a suggestion, but before you make sweeping statements about lack of ambition, suits lining their own pockets and general poor management at BHAFC, why not try understanding what it actually takes to run a top Championship club? Your ridiculous statements do nothing for you except to prove your total ignorance. Personally, if I was you I would keep quiet as you seem incapable of saying anything that doesn't make you look totally ignorant. Have a nice day, preferably doing something elsewhere!! UTA!![/p][/quote]OMG the guy is just voicing his opinion on a website - yet you flame him like the an intolerant troll that you (and some of you others) are. Meanwhile your opinion is intelligent, balanced and correct? ??? No, you just resort to name calling and vitriol. Try debating or discussing for a change, rather than personally insulting a view that is different from your very limited lens.[/p][/quote]Brilliant great post although i do not agree with some posts,everyone has the right to post(say) voice their point of view. Some on here think they own the site.and are god's gift to earth.[/p][/quote]Okay, takes a small step back an admits there was probably a touch more vitriol in my outburst than was necessary. But..... I take exception to people who seem to come on here purely to have a dog at the club that I love and support. Mayfield sweeper seems only interested in trying to criticise the management of BHAFC at a time when things are being made very open and clear by them and when, with new manager installed, true fans would be both optimistic and supportive. So I take back the vitriol but completely stand by my sentiment that this club is professionally, and above all, sensibly run. And I reserve the right to defend that view until my dying breath. Now, who was it that daughter-of-manag was accusing of being a troll? Perhaps she would kindly re-read Mayfield sweeper's comments and mine and take THAT back??! UTA!! Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 8

6:03pm Sat 14 Jun 14

To baldly go says...

gordongull wrote:
Paul Barber couldn't have outlined the situation any better. There is no lack of ambition just an understanding of the difficulties that the Club faces in order to achieve promotion to the top flight.
Cardiff and Hull spent £31m and £26m respectively to assemble teams capable of automatic promotion.. For a Club like B&HA, that kind of investment just isn't an option.
There are clearly defined limits to the amount that can be spent on players and their wages. Anyone who compares the stadium and training facilities with the quality of the team, is missing the point that money spent on infrastructure is excluded from FFP.
Mr Barber is confident that we can compete again, but to make wild predictions about a top two finish, would seriously damage his credibility. The emphasis on being smarter than the wealthy clubs shows that our ambition is driven by intelligence, not delusion.
The Head of Football Operations is here to stay, so it was encouraging to get official acknowledgement that the Manager will be significantly involved in player recruitment. I would prefer to think I was supporting Sami's team than one put together by the DOF.
Apparently Mr Bloom has made funds available for team rebuilding, but the Club is being run on a sound financial basis, and that is not going to change.
A rewarding working relationship looks probable between Sami and David Burke, (Sami doesn't look like a yes-man).
It all looks good, and I can't think of anyone to have a pop at.
Any suggestions?
Nicely put GG, time will tell who's got it right! For me, it will be the length of contracts we offer players that will define who comes in imo. The attraction/ambition is there, is the money?
If come January we are in the top ten, expect a couple of loans coming in for an end of season push that won't break the bank and another play off spot, hopefully!
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: Paul Barber couldn't have outlined the situation any better. There is no lack of ambition just an understanding of the difficulties that the Club faces in order to achieve promotion to the top flight. Cardiff and Hull spent £31m and £26m respectively to assemble teams capable of automatic promotion.. For a Club like B&HA, that kind of investment just isn't an option. There are clearly defined limits to the amount that can be spent on players and their wages. Anyone who compares the stadium and training facilities with the quality of the team, is missing the point that money spent on infrastructure is excluded from FFP. Mr Barber is confident that we can compete again, but to make wild predictions about a top two finish, would seriously damage his credibility. The emphasis on being smarter than the wealthy clubs shows that our ambition is driven by intelligence, not delusion. The Head of Football Operations is here to stay, so it was encouraging to get official acknowledgement that the Manager will be significantly involved in player recruitment. I would prefer to think I was supporting Sami's team than one put together by the DOF. Apparently Mr Bloom has made funds available for team rebuilding, but the Club is being run on a sound financial basis, and that is not going to change. A rewarding working relationship looks probable between Sami and David Burke, (Sami doesn't look like a yes-man). It all looks good, and I can't think of anyone to have a pop at. Any suggestions?[/p][/quote]Nicely put GG, time will tell who's got it right! For me, it will be the length of contracts we offer players that will define who comes in imo. The attraction/ambition is there, is the money? If come January we are in the top ten, expect a couple of loans coming in for an end of season push that won't break the bank and another play off spot, hopefully! To baldly go
  • Score: 9

6:21pm Sat 14 Jun 14

gordongull says...

Maybe I should have a pop at those paTROLLing the threads in an attempt to denounce all naysayers. (Sounded a bit like Fairweather there, he of ''thrice nay'' fame).
Although, on reflection, anyone who doesn't like what someone else has written is perfectly entitled to say so.
Maybe I should have a pop at those paTROLLing the threads in an attempt to denounce all naysayers. (Sounded a bit like Fairweather there, he of ''thrice nay'' fame). Although, on reflection, anyone who doesn't like what someone else has written is perfectly entitled to say so. gordongull
  • Score: 0

6:54pm Sat 14 Jun 14

ringtone says...

Cap'n Pugwash wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
mickagull wrote:
Justin wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.
Let's just hope we all live to see it, sobering thought.
There is just no ambition in our management team,it is all so negative.Barber is saying we can get in the top six despite having no money but relying on good fortune.You would think we had the lowest crowds and the worst budget.We may have to stay in the Championship for a few more years.Does he spread his doom and gloom around all the staff and players,taxi for Barber.Even newly promoted clubs say they are going for another promotion whats gone wrong with this club,we had more ambition at the Withdean.
I think the Argus 'idiot magnet' has been turned up to full power today.

No ambition? There's a £35 MILLION training complex and academy opening for business in a few days. How much more ambition does the club have to show to satisfy people like you?
As for the club's budget-are you aware of what has caused The Albion to post the losses it has recently? Do I need to remind you of all of the losses racked up during the Withdean years? Losses that need getting out of the way in much the same way Arsenal did when they moved into The Emirates.
Argus, please turn the magnet down or even better-OFF!
The withdean losses were not an issue when we move into the Amex and started spending millions on CMS, Hoskins and Buckley.

I somehow think we are not being told the whole story.
[quote][p][bold]Cap'n Pugwash[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Justin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.[/p][/quote]Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.[/p][/quote]Let's just hope we all live to see it, sobering thought.[/p][/quote]There is just no ambition in our management team,it is all so negative.Barber is saying we can get in the top six despite having no money but relying on good fortune.You would think we had the lowest crowds and the worst budget.We may have to stay in the Championship for a few more years.Does he spread his doom and gloom around all the staff and players,taxi for Barber.Even newly promoted clubs say they are going for another promotion whats gone wrong with this club,we had more ambition at the Withdean.[/p][/quote]I think the Argus 'idiot magnet' has been turned up to full power today. No ambition? There's a £35 MILLION training complex and academy opening for business in a few days. How much more ambition does the club have to show to satisfy people like you? As for the club's budget-are you aware of what has caused The Albion to post the losses it has recently? Do I need to remind you of all of the losses racked up during the Withdean years? Losses that need getting out of the way in much the same way Arsenal did when they moved into The Emirates. Argus, please turn the magnet down or even better-OFF![/p][/quote]The withdean losses were not an issue when we move into the Amex and started spending millions on CMS, Hoskins and Buckley. I somehow think we are not being told the whole story. ringtone
  • Score: -3

6:55pm Sat 14 Jun 14

daughter-of-manag says...

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
daughter-of-manag wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Cap'n Pugwash wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
cybergu11y wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal.
Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.
The novelty of the new stadium has worn off, the training complex and hotel is
just another means of lining the pockets of the suits. The appointment of Hyypia is a clear gamble when we could have gone for a proven candidate. Its all being done on the cheap while us supporters blindly throw our money at it. Ffp is a farce which has now worn thin and will not affect us like people say, we are sick of these boring people going on about ffp. Its time to stop messing about and just go for it and the waffle of excuses from the suits just needs to now stop. Thats how it is in the real world I'm afraid.
You're right, the novelty of the new stadium has worn off and the club are desperately looking for thousands of new season ticket holders to fill the gaps left by departing jcl's.
Are you naturally stupid or do you have to work at it? How exactly does the training Complex line the pockets of the suits? Where's the hotel? God, this site does my head in some times.
As for the Hyypia appointment-you are probably having difficulties here but he played and learned at one of the biggest clubs in the world, playing for some of the best managers in the world. For 10 years. Then he moved to Leverkusen and spent 5 years near the top of the Bundesliga, as a player and manager (where he got them to 2nd place and a Champions League place). He's a gamble all right and he is no doubt our latest 'on the cheap' managerial appointment.
The training complex is there so players can be trained up and then sold just to comply with ffp. The hotel and accomodation will just be for lining pockets not to benefit the fans. We need more excitement and nothing that Bloom Burke and Barber say ever sounds very exciting. This swarm of B's is stinging us all to death. We should not be happy with ticking along we should be trying to win the league. Hyypia doesnt know this league but will learn but it might be too late by then and bloom has only given him shirt buttons to spend, we should be able to sign the best players if we want.
Dear Mayfield sweeper.

Just a suggestion, but before you make sweeping statements about lack of ambition, suits lining their own pockets and general poor management at BHAFC, why not try understanding what it actually takes to run a top Championship club?

Your ridiculous statements do nothing for you except to prove your total ignorance.

Personally, if I was you I would keep quiet as you seem incapable of saying anything that doesn't make you look totally ignorant.

Have a nice day, preferably doing something elsewhere!!

UTA!!
OMG the guy is just voicing his opinion on a website - yet you flame him like the an intolerant troll that you (and some of you others) are. Meanwhile your opinion is intelligent, balanced and correct? ??? No, you just resort to name calling and vitriol. Try debating or discussing for a change, rather than personally insulting a view that is different from your very limited lens.
Brilliant great post although i do not agree with some posts,everyone has the right to post(say) voice their point of view.

Some on here think they own the site.and are god's gift to earth.
Okay, takes a small step back an admits there was probably a touch more vitriol in my outburst than was necessary.

But.....

I take exception to people who seem to come on here purely to have a dog at the club that I love and support. Mayfield sweeper seems only interested in trying to criticise the management of BHAFC at a time when things are being made very open and clear by them and when, with new manager installed, true fans would be both optimistic and supportive.

So I take back the vitriol but completely stand by my sentiment that this club is professionally, and above all, sensibly run. And I reserve the right to defend that view until my dying breath.

Now, who was it that daughter-of-manag was accusing of being a troll? Perhaps she would kindly re-read Mayfield sweeper's comments and mine and take THAT back??!

UTA!!
I think she was trying to make the point that airing our opinions is part and parcel of the discussion group, but when it comes down to name calling and using other pejorative adjectives to take a superior position. It is sad and unnecessary. If Mayfield is genuine in his beliefs, then try and draw them out some more - maybe he will make a good point or maybe he'll be exposed as a troll - but to call a poster a moron or idiot or comment upon their grammar (unless it makes the reader's eyes bleed) is immature and futile, in my opinion. How many times have I wanted to post "imbecile" after some of the posts that I read - but it just isn't that helpful. Occasionally - I fall short and have to vent - but I really try not to. Thanks for your post Singing Seagull.
[quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]daughter-of-manag[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cap'n Pugwash[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cybergu11y[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.[/p][/quote]Indeed, Mr Bloom so lacks ambition that he built with his own money, a world class stadium, got a massive sponsorship deal with American Express and built training facilities that many Premier League and dare I say, Champions League clubs would dearly love to have at their disposal. Meanwhile in the real world, us real fans cant thank Tony enough for all he has done for the club we all love and support.[/p][/quote]The novelty of the new stadium has worn off, the training complex and hotel is just another means of lining the pockets of the suits. The appointment of Hyypia is a clear gamble when we could have gone for a proven candidate. Its all being done on the cheap while us supporters blindly throw our money at it. Ffp is a farce which has now worn thin and will not affect us like people say, we are sick of these boring people going on about ffp. Its time to stop messing about and just go for it and the waffle of excuses from the suits just needs to now stop. Thats how it is in the real world I'm afraid.[/p][/quote]You're right, the novelty of the new stadium has worn off and the club are desperately looking for thousands of new season ticket holders to fill the gaps left by departing jcl's. Are you naturally stupid or do you have to work at it? How exactly does the training Complex line the pockets of the suits? Where's the hotel? God, this site does my head in some times. As for the Hyypia appointment-you are probably having difficulties here but he played and learned at one of the biggest clubs in the world, playing for some of the best managers in the world. For 10 years. Then he moved to Leverkusen and spent 5 years near the top of the Bundesliga, as a player and manager (where he got them to 2nd place and a Champions League place). He's a gamble all right and he is no doubt our latest 'on the cheap' managerial appointment.[/p][/quote]The training complex is there so players can be trained up and then sold just to comply with ffp. The hotel and accomodation will just be for lining pockets not to benefit the fans. We need more excitement and nothing that Bloom Burke and Barber say ever sounds very exciting. This swarm of B's is stinging us all to death. We should not be happy with ticking along we should be trying to win the league. Hyypia doesnt know this league but will learn but it might be too late by then and bloom has only given him shirt buttons to spend, we should be able to sign the best players if we want.[/p][/quote]Dear Mayfield sweeper. Just a suggestion, but before you make sweeping statements about lack of ambition, suits lining their own pockets and general poor management at BHAFC, why not try understanding what it actually takes to run a top Championship club? Your ridiculous statements do nothing for you except to prove your total ignorance. Personally, if I was you I would keep quiet as you seem incapable of saying anything that doesn't make you look totally ignorant. Have a nice day, preferably doing something elsewhere!! UTA!![/p][/quote]OMG the guy is just voicing his opinion on a website - yet you flame him like the an intolerant troll that you (and some of you others) are. Meanwhile your opinion is intelligent, balanced and correct? ??? No, you just resort to name calling and vitriol. Try debating or discussing for a change, rather than personally insulting a view that is different from your very limited lens.[/p][/quote]Brilliant great post although i do not agree with some posts,everyone has the right to post(say) voice their point of view. Some on here think they own the site.and are god's gift to earth.[/p][/quote]Okay, takes a small step back an admits there was probably a touch more vitriol in my outburst than was necessary. But..... I take exception to people who seem to come on here purely to have a dog at the club that I love and support. Mayfield sweeper seems only interested in trying to criticise the management of BHAFC at a time when things are being made very open and clear by them and when, with new manager installed, true fans would be both optimistic and supportive. So I take back the vitriol but completely stand by my sentiment that this club is professionally, and above all, sensibly run. And I reserve the right to defend that view until my dying breath. Now, who was it that daughter-of-manag was accusing of being a troll? Perhaps she would kindly re-read Mayfield sweeper's comments and mine and take THAT back??! UTA!![/p][/quote]I think she was trying to make the point that airing our opinions is part and parcel of the discussion group, but when it comes down to name calling and using other pejorative adjectives to take a superior position. It is sad and unnecessary. If Mayfield is genuine in his beliefs, then try and draw them out some more - maybe he will make a good point or maybe he'll be exposed as a troll - but to call a poster a moron or idiot or comment upon their grammar (unless it makes the reader's eyes bleed) is immature and futile, in my opinion. How many times have I wanted to post "imbecile" after some of the posts that I read - but it just isn't that helpful. Occasionally - I fall short and have to vent - but I really try not to. Thanks for your post Singing Seagull. daughter-of-manag
  • Score: 4

7:03pm Sat 14 Jun 14

pte says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
pte wrote:
Give Sami a break. There's no way he's going to win promotion in his first season! He needs to learn about the Championship and maybe in two or three years he'll do it. After all Gus had 3 years at it and failed even with Barber & Burke being smart. So fans need to be patient
No one should be judging hyypia yet, give it until the middle of november then we will know whether the gamble has paid off or backfired.
Sami will be so relieved that you give him 3 months into the season LOL!

Some managers have a bad season because of events outside their control and have a good one the following season. So whatever happens, top ten mid table or relegation fight you will need to give him at least two seasons and Bloom has given him 3.

If the club wanted quick results they should have chosen an established championship manager but instead they are looking long term
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: Give Sami a break. There's no way he's going to win promotion in his first season! He needs to learn about the Championship and maybe in two or three years he'll do it. After all Gus had 3 years at it and failed even with Barber & Burke being smart. So fans need to be patient[/p][/quote]No one should be judging hyypia yet, give it until the middle of november then we will know whether the gamble has paid off or backfired.[/p][/quote]Sami will be so relieved that you give him 3 months into the season LOL! Some managers have a bad season because of events outside their control and have a good one the following season. So whatever happens, top ten mid table or relegation fight you will need to give him at least two seasons and Bloom has given him 3. If the club wanted quick results they should have chosen an established championship manager but instead they are looking long term pte
  • Score: 3

7:05pm Sat 14 Jun 14

daughter-of-manag says...

By the way, and for the record, I disagree with Mayfield sweeper's position, and if that, or any other position, differs from the one that my personal lens sees through - that's ok, as long as it doesn't get personal.

I am excited for the season and I believe that we will do surprisingly well!
By the way, and for the record, I disagree with Mayfield sweeper's position, and if that, or any other position, differs from the one that my personal lens sees through - that's ok, as long as it doesn't get personal. I am excited for the season and I believe that we will do surprisingly well! daughter-of-manag
  • Score: 1

7:06pm Sat 14 Jun 14

bbb1969 says...

Not the biggest hyypia fan and not sure about his sryle and what he will bring to Brighton but as a supporter I will get behind him and the team nonetheless.
I will moan when we have a bad result and played rubbish but will also praise when we play well.
Ffp seems to be a joke; no one knows what is going to happen to clubs not adhering to ffp.
I really hope clubs do not get away with it.
Will enjoy the England match tonight and try to spot the future Brighton talent.
Cant remember who posted and ststed we want entertainment and that the team are not goof enough. Well all I can say is that we have to get a team first and then wewill be entertsined. Cant say I agree with rubbishing a team before we have one in plsce
Not the biggest hyypia fan and not sure about his sryle and what he will bring to Brighton but as a supporter I will get behind him and the team nonetheless. I will moan when we have a bad result and played rubbish but will also praise when we play well. Ffp seems to be a joke; no one knows what is going to happen to clubs not adhering to ffp. I really hope clubs do not get away with it. Will enjoy the England match tonight and try to spot the future Brighton talent. Cant remember who posted and ststed we want entertainment and that the team are not goof enough. Well all I can say is that we have to get a team first and then wewill be entertsined. Cant say I agree with rubbishing a team before we have one in plsce bbb1969
  • Score: 2

7:08pm Sat 14 Jun 14

gordongull says...

To baldly go wrote:
gordongull wrote:
Paul Barber couldn't have outlined the situation any better. There is no lack of ambition just an understanding of the difficulties that the Club faces in order to achieve promotion to the top flight.
Cardiff and Hull spent £31m and £26m respectively to assemble teams capable of automatic promotion.. For a Club like B&HA, that kind of investment just isn't an option.
There are clearly defined limits to the amount that can be spent on players and their wages. Anyone who compares the stadium and training facilities with the quality of the team, is missing the point that money spent on infrastructure is excluded from FFP.
Mr Barber is confident that we can compete again, but to make wild predictions about a top two finish, would seriously damage his credibility. The emphasis on being smarter than the wealthy clubs shows that our ambition is driven by intelligence, not delusion.
The Head of Football Operations is here to stay, so it was encouraging to get official acknowledgement that the Manager will be significantly involved in player recruitment. I would prefer to think I was supporting Sami's team than one put together by the DOF.
Apparently Mr Bloom has made funds available for team rebuilding, but the Club is being run on a sound financial basis, and that is not going to change.
A rewarding working relationship looks probable between Sami and David Burke, (Sami doesn't look like a yes-man).
It all looks good, and I can't think of anyone to have a pop at.
Any suggestions?
Nicely put GG, time will tell who's got it right! For me, it will be the length of contracts we offer players that will define who comes in imo. The attraction/ambition is there, is the money?
If come January we are in the top ten, expect a couple of loans coming in for an end of season push that won't break the bank and another play off spot, hopefully!
Yes, To baldly go, length of contract seems to be taking on increasing importance for players. Any players with the bargaining power to demand a three year + contract are probably worth the risk. Lesser players are not going to be so much in demand, so could have to settle for one or two years. This also applies to injury-prone players, although in that case, I would prefer the position to go to the DS.
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: Paul Barber couldn't have outlined the situation any better. There is no lack of ambition just an understanding of the difficulties that the Club faces in order to achieve promotion to the top flight. Cardiff and Hull spent £31m and £26m respectively to assemble teams capable of automatic promotion.. For a Club like B&HA, that kind of investment just isn't an option. There are clearly defined limits to the amount that can be spent on players and their wages. Anyone who compares the stadium and training facilities with the quality of the team, is missing the point that money spent on infrastructure is excluded from FFP. Mr Barber is confident that we can compete again, but to make wild predictions about a top two finish, would seriously damage his credibility. The emphasis on being smarter than the wealthy clubs shows that our ambition is driven by intelligence, not delusion. The Head of Football Operations is here to stay, so it was encouraging to get official acknowledgement that the Manager will be significantly involved in player recruitment. I would prefer to think I was supporting Sami's team than one put together by the DOF. Apparently Mr Bloom has made funds available for team rebuilding, but the Club is being run on a sound financial basis, and that is not going to change. A rewarding working relationship looks probable between Sami and David Burke, (Sami doesn't look like a yes-man). It all looks good, and I can't think of anyone to have a pop at. Any suggestions?[/p][/quote]Nicely put GG, time will tell who's got it right! For me, it will be the length of contracts we offer players that will define who comes in imo. The attraction/ambition is there, is the money? If come January we are in the top ten, expect a couple of loans coming in for an end of season push that won't break the bank and another play off spot, hopefully![/p][/quote]Yes, To baldly go, length of contract seems to be taking on increasing importance for players. Any players with the bargaining power to demand a three year + contract are probably worth the risk. Lesser players are not going to be so much in demand, so could have to settle for one or two years. This also applies to injury-prone players, although in that case, I would prefer the position to go to the DS. gordongull
  • Score: 2

7:14pm Sat 14 Jun 14

pte says...

Also, I'd like to know is Barber & Co's optimism based on players they are negotiating for but haven't yet signed or on some mystical incite of divine intervention?

To make predictions of a top 6 finish, this early risks them falling flat on their face even if they do have big plans. Chickens and eggs hatching comes to mind as well as raising unrealistic expectations and pressure on Sami
Also, I'd like to know is Barber & Co's optimism based on players they are negotiating for but haven't yet signed or on some mystical incite of divine intervention? To make predictions of a top 6 finish, this early risks them falling flat on their face even if they do have big plans. Chickens and eggs hatching comes to mind as well as raising unrealistic expectations and pressure on Sami pte
  • Score: -4

7:40pm Sat 14 Jun 14

gordongull says...

pte wrote:
Also, I'd like to know is Barber & Co's optimism based on players they are negotiating for but haven't yet signed or on some mystical incite of divine intervention?

To make predictions of a top 6 finish, this early risks them falling flat on their face even if they do have big plans. Chickens and eggs hatching comes to mind as well as raising unrealistic expectations and pressure on Sami
I think Paul Barber was careful not to commit himself to a top 6 finish, pte, while at the same time, saying it will be a realistic target.
What he is saying implies that we are going to be at least as strong as at the beginning of last season, and I would settle for that right now, (without the injuries).
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: Also, I'd like to know is Barber & Co's optimism based on players they are negotiating for but haven't yet signed or on some mystical incite of divine intervention? To make predictions of a top 6 finish, this early risks them falling flat on their face even if they do have big plans. Chickens and eggs hatching comes to mind as well as raising unrealistic expectations and pressure on Sami[/p][/quote]I think Paul Barber was careful not to commit himself to a top 6 finish, pte, while at the same time, saying it will be a realistic target. What he is saying implies that we are going to be at least as strong as at the beginning of last season, and I would settle for that right now, (without the injuries). gordongull
  • Score: 4

7:58pm Sat 14 Jun 14

gordongull says...

Anyone for Tika-Taka football after last night?
Anyone for Tika-Taka football after last night? gordongull
  • Score: -1

8:20pm Sat 14 Jun 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

ringtone wrote:
Cap'n Pugwash wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
mickagull wrote:
Justin wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.
Let's just hope we all live to see it, sobering thought.
There is just no ambition in our management team,it is all so negative.Barber is saying we can get in the top six despite having no money but relying on good fortune.You would think we had the lowest crowds and the worst budget.We may have to stay in the Championship for a few more years.Does he spread his doom and gloom around all the staff and players,taxi for Barber.Even newly promoted clubs say they are going for another promotion whats gone wrong with this club,we had more ambition at the Withdean.
I think the Argus 'idiot magnet' has been turned up to full power today.

No ambition? There's a £35 MILLION training complex and academy opening for business in a few days. How much more ambition does the club have to show to satisfy people like you?
As for the club's budget-are you aware of what has caused The Albion to post the losses it has recently? Do I need to remind you of all of the losses racked up during the Withdean years? Losses that need getting out of the way in much the same way Arsenal did when they moved into The Emirates.
Argus, please turn the magnet down or even better-OFF!
The withdean losses were not an issue when we move into the Amex and started spending millions on CMS, Hoskins and Buckley.

I somehow think we are not being told the whole story.
How is this possible you are getting thumbs up.

It is not that we are being told the whole story,but more lets keep it indoors.
have looked on the company check site,thing do not add up.

Are Albion a club for sale as i have said before,some russian-chinees-arab
.

Some people could stand to make big bucks.

Maybe the club in one or two years will be called brighton and hove tigers and play in black and gold.
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cap'n Pugwash[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Justin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.[/p][/quote]Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.[/p][/quote]Let's just hope we all live to see it, sobering thought.[/p][/quote]There is just no ambition in our management team,it is all so negative.Barber is saying we can get in the top six despite having no money but relying on good fortune.You would think we had the lowest crowds and the worst budget.We may have to stay in the Championship for a few more years.Does he spread his doom and gloom around all the staff and players,taxi for Barber.Even newly promoted clubs say they are going for another promotion whats gone wrong with this club,we had more ambition at the Withdean.[/p][/quote]I think the Argus 'idiot magnet' has been turned up to full power today. No ambition? There's a £35 MILLION training complex and academy opening for business in a few days. How much more ambition does the club have to show to satisfy people like you? As for the club's budget-are you aware of what has caused The Albion to post the losses it has recently? Do I need to remind you of all of the losses racked up during the Withdean years? Losses that need getting out of the way in much the same way Arsenal did when they moved into The Emirates. Argus, please turn the magnet down or even better-OFF![/p][/quote]The withdean losses were not an issue when we move into the Amex and started spending millions on CMS, Hoskins and Buckley. I somehow think we are not being told the whole story.[/p][/quote]How is this possible you are getting thumbs up. It is not that we are being told the whole story,but more lets keep it indoors. have looked on the company check site,thing do not add up. Are Albion a club for sale as i have said before,some russian-chinees-arab . Some people could stand to make big bucks. Maybe the club in one or two years will be called brighton and hove tigers and play in black and gold. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: -9

8:37pm Sat 14 Jun 14

ringtone says...

don't wanna do it like that wrote:
ringtone wrote:
Cap'n Pugwash wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
mickagull wrote:
Justin wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.
Let's just hope we all live to see it, sobering thought.
There is just no ambition in our management team,it is all so negative.Barber is saying we can get in the top six despite having no money but relying on good fortune.You would think we had the lowest crowds and the worst budget.We may have to stay in the Championship for a few more years.Does he spread his doom and gloom around all the staff and players,taxi for Barber.Even newly promoted clubs say they are going for another promotion whats gone wrong with this club,we had more ambition at the Withdean.
I think the Argus 'idiot magnet' has been turned up to full power today.

No ambition? There's a £35 MILLION training complex and academy opening for business in a few days. How much more ambition does the club have to show to satisfy people like you?
As for the club's budget-are you aware of what has caused The Albion to post the losses it has recently? Do I need to remind you of all of the losses racked up during the Withdean years? Losses that need getting out of the way in much the same way Arsenal did when they moved into The Emirates.
Argus, please turn the magnet down or even better-OFF!
The withdean losses were not an issue when we move into the Amex and started spending millions on CMS, Hoskins and Buckley.

I somehow think we are not being told the whole story.
How is this possible you are getting thumbs up.

It is not that we are being told the whole story,but more lets keep it indoors.
have looked on the company check site,thing do not add up.

Are Albion a club for sale as i have said before,some russian-chinees-arab

.

Some people could stand to make big bucks.

Maybe the club in one or two years will be called brighton and hove tigers and play in black and gold.
If the cost of the stadium is being paid back

How are we repaying this?
[quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cap'n Pugwash[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Justin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.[/p][/quote]Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.[/p][/quote]Let's just hope we all live to see it, sobering thought.[/p][/quote]There is just no ambition in our management team,it is all so negative.Barber is saying we can get in the top six despite having no money but relying on good fortune.You would think we had the lowest crowds and the worst budget.We may have to stay in the Championship for a few more years.Does he spread his doom and gloom around all the staff and players,taxi for Barber.Even newly promoted clubs say they are going for another promotion whats gone wrong with this club,we had more ambition at the Withdean.[/p][/quote]I think the Argus 'idiot magnet' has been turned up to full power today. No ambition? There's a £35 MILLION training complex and academy opening for business in a few days. How much more ambition does the club have to show to satisfy people like you? As for the club's budget-are you aware of what has caused The Albion to post the losses it has recently? Do I need to remind you of all of the losses racked up during the Withdean years? Losses that need getting out of the way in much the same way Arsenal did when they moved into The Emirates. Argus, please turn the magnet down or even better-OFF![/p][/quote]The withdean losses were not an issue when we move into the Amex and started spending millions on CMS, Hoskins and Buckley. I somehow think we are not being told the whole story.[/p][/quote]How is this possible you are getting thumbs up. It is not that we are being told the whole story,but more lets keep it indoors. have looked on the company check site,thing do not add up. Are Albion a club for sale as i have said before,some russian-chinees-arab . Some people could stand to make big bucks. Maybe the club in one or two years will be called brighton and hove tigers and play in black and gold.[/p][/quote]If the cost of the stadium is being paid back How are we repaying this? ringtone
  • Score: -5

9:27pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Cockwomble says...

gordongull wrote:
Anyone for Tika-Taka football after last night?
tikataka not the problem.individual errors but also great play from dutch to blame.cockwombles
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: Anyone for Tika-Taka football after last night?[/p][/quote]tikataka not the problem.individual errors but also great play from dutch to blame.cockwombles Cockwomble
  • Score: 1

11:40pm Sat 14 Jun 14

pte says...

ringtone wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
ringtone wrote:
Cap'n Pugwash wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
mickagull wrote:
Justin wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.
Let's just hope we all live to see it, sobering thought.
There is just no ambition in our management team,it is all so negative.Barber is saying we can get in the top six despite having no money but relying on good fortune.You would think we had the lowest crowds and the worst budget.We may have to stay in the Championship for a few more years.Does he spread his doom and gloom around all the staff and players,taxi for Barber.Even newly promoted clubs say they are going for another promotion whats gone wrong with this club,we had more ambition at the Withdean.
I think the Argus 'idiot magnet' has been turned up to full power today.

No ambition? There's a £35 MILLION training complex and academy opening for business in a few days. How much more ambition does the club have to show to satisfy people like you?
As for the club's budget-are you aware of what has caused The Albion to post the losses it has recently? Do I need to remind you of all of the losses racked up during the Withdean years? Losses that need getting out of the way in much the same way Arsenal did when they moved into The Emirates.
Argus, please turn the magnet down or even better-OFF!
The withdean losses were not an issue when we move into the Amex and started spending millions on CMS, Hoskins and Buckley.

I somehow think we are not being told the whole story.
How is this possible you are getting thumbs up.

It is not that we are being told the whole story,but more lets keep it indoors.
have looked on the company check site,thing do not add up.

Are Albion a club for sale as i have said before,some russian-chinees-arab


.

Some people could stand to make big bucks.

Maybe the club in one or two years will be called brighton and hove tigers and play in black and gold.
If the cost of the stadium is being paid back

How are we repaying this?
Money owed on building costs are a liability, but the value of the stadium is an asset. In any set of accounts you have assets and liabilities, provided the assets equal the liabilities everything is fine and since the value of the stadium as an asset cancels out the amount owed on building cost liability.

Therefore, stadium costs have no bearing on FFP. The only thing that has a bearing is any interest on the loans which are part of the running costs which have to be covered by turnover. But we are told these are interest free loans from TB. However, since there's no such thing as a free lunch TB might legitimately be recompensed in other ways. Leaving money in the club instead of taking it out in the form of interest or renumeration adds the sale value of the club.

Consequently, anyone who sees the financing of the stadium as some sort of altruistic act are hugely mistaken. It's pure business as is the general balancing of the player budget

For this lesson in double entry accounting I fully expect a negative score of -20
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cap'n Pugwash[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Justin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.[/p][/quote]Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.[/p][/quote]Let's just hope we all live to see it, sobering thought.[/p][/quote]There is just no ambition in our management team,it is all so negative.Barber is saying we can get in the top six despite having no money but relying on good fortune.You would think we had the lowest crowds and the worst budget.We may have to stay in the Championship for a few more years.Does he spread his doom and gloom around all the staff and players,taxi for Barber.Even newly promoted clubs say they are going for another promotion whats gone wrong with this club,we had more ambition at the Withdean.[/p][/quote]I think the Argus 'idiot magnet' has been turned up to full power today. No ambition? There's a £35 MILLION training complex and academy opening for business in a few days. How much more ambition does the club have to show to satisfy people like you? As for the club's budget-are you aware of what has caused The Albion to post the losses it has recently? Do I need to remind you of all of the losses racked up during the Withdean years? Losses that need getting out of the way in much the same way Arsenal did when they moved into The Emirates. Argus, please turn the magnet down or even better-OFF![/p][/quote]The withdean losses were not an issue when we move into the Amex and started spending millions on CMS, Hoskins and Buckley. I somehow think we are not being told the whole story.[/p][/quote]How is this possible you are getting thumbs up. It is not that we are being told the whole story,but more lets keep it indoors. have looked on the company check site,thing do not add up. Are Albion a club for sale as i have said before,some russian-chinees-arab . Some people could stand to make big bucks. Maybe the club in one or two years will be called brighton and hove tigers and play in black and gold.[/p][/quote]If the cost of the stadium is being paid back How are we repaying this?[/p][/quote]Money owed on building costs are a liability, but the value of the stadium is an asset. In any set of accounts you have assets and liabilities, provided the assets equal the liabilities everything is fine and since the value of the stadium as an asset cancels out the amount owed on building cost liability. Therefore, stadium costs have no bearing on FFP. The only thing that has a bearing is any interest on the loans which are part of the running costs which have to be covered by turnover. But we are told these are interest free loans from TB. However, since there's no such thing as a free lunch TB might legitimately be recompensed in other ways. Leaving money in the club instead of taking it out in the form of interest or renumeration adds the sale value of the club. Consequently, anyone who sees the financing of the stadium as some sort of altruistic act are hugely mistaken. It's pure business as is the general balancing of the player budget For this lesson in double entry accounting I fully expect a negative score of -20 pte
  • Score: 6

1:44am Sun 15 Jun 14

gordongull says...

What you say makes a lot of sense, pte, except the point about FFP. A Club's Stadium and other infrastructure are excluded for FFP purposes, so whether or not its value as an asset cancels out the building costs is irrelevant from an FFP viewpoint.
Also the contribution Tony Bloom has made to fund losses in recent seasons shouldn't be underestimated. There is no guarantee that he will get that money back.
What you say makes a lot of sense, pte, except the point about FFP. A Club's Stadium and other infrastructure are excluded for FFP purposes, so whether or not its value as an asset cancels out the building costs is irrelevant from an FFP viewpoint. Also the contribution Tony Bloom has made to fund losses in recent seasons shouldn't be underestimated. There is no guarantee that he will get that money back. gordongull
  • Score: 4

8:25am Sun 15 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs says...

bbb1969 wrote:
Not the biggest hyypia fan and not sure about his sryle and what he will bring to Brighton but as a supporter I will get behind him and the team nonetheless.
I will moan when we have a bad result and played rubbish but will also praise when we play well.
Ffp seems to be a joke; no one knows what is going to happen to clubs not adhering to ffp.
I really hope clubs do not get away with it.
Will enjoy the England match tonight and try to spot the future Brighton talent.
Cant remember who posted and ststed we want entertainment and that the team are not goof enough. Well all I can say is that we have to get a team first and then wewill be entertsined. Cant say I agree with rubbishing a team before we have one in plsce
I agree that you can't rubbish a team before we have one in place, but on the same basis, how can you doubt Hyypia's style?
What is it exactly?
Just like your point on the team, surely the same applies to Hyypia?
[quote][p][bold]bbb1969[/bold] wrote: Not the biggest hyypia fan and not sure about his sryle and what he will bring to Brighton but as a supporter I will get behind him and the team nonetheless. I will moan when we have a bad result and played rubbish but will also praise when we play well. Ffp seems to be a joke; no one knows what is going to happen to clubs not adhering to ffp. I really hope clubs do not get away with it. Will enjoy the England match tonight and try to spot the future Brighton talent. Cant remember who posted and ststed we want entertainment and that the team are not goof enough. Well all I can say is that we have to get a team first and then wewill be entertsined. Cant say I agree with rubbishing a team before we have one in plsce[/p][/quote]I agree that you can't rubbish a team before we have one in place, but on the same basis, how can you doubt Hyypia's style? What is it exactly? Just like your point on the team, surely the same applies to Hyypia? Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 3

11:14am Sun 15 Jun 14

mark by the sea says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Nice illustration of expectation management!
What it also shows is that joining the PL 'club' not just the league itself, is getting more and more difficult. We clearly won't be throwing money at it like QPR and taking a huge once-only gamble and I'm fully supportive of this sensible, if unexciting approach.
How do you eat an elephant? A - One bite at a time.
I agree we can't take massive risks, however FFP means that those in receipt of parachute money are going to get stronger and other sides without payments weaker, I would like to see any side who get promoted breaking the rules face fines when they drop back down, if fines equalled parachute payments that would be far fairer to those sticking within FFP .
Season tickets sales are over 2000 down on this time last year, a clear warning fans can't be mugged with poor quality football.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: Nice illustration of expectation management! What it also shows is that joining the PL 'club' not just the league itself, is getting more and more difficult. We clearly won't be throwing money at it like QPR and taking a huge once-only gamble and I'm fully supportive of this sensible, if unexciting approach. How do you eat an elephant? A - One bite at a time.[/p][/quote]I agree we can't take massive risks, however FFP means that those in receipt of parachute money are going to get stronger and other sides without payments weaker, I would like to see any side who get promoted breaking the rules face fines when they drop back down, if fines equalled parachute payments that would be far fairer to those sticking within FFP . Season tickets sales are over 2000 down on this time last year, a clear warning fans can't be mugged with poor quality football. mark by the sea
  • Score: 0

12:23pm Sun 15 Jun 14

Cockwomble says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Nice illustration of expectation management!
What it also shows is that joining the PL 'club' not just the league itself, is getting more and more difficult. We clearly won't be throwing money at it like QPR and taking a huge once-only gamble and I'm fully supportive of this sensible, if unexciting approach.
How do you eat an elephant? A - One bite at a time.
I agree we can't take massive risks, however FFP means that those in receipt of parachute money are going to get stronger and other sides without payments weaker, I would like to see any side who get promoted breaking the rules face fines when they drop back down, if fines equalled parachute payments that would be far fairer to those sticking within FFP .
Season tickets sales are over 2000 down on this time last year, a clear warning fans can't be mugged with poor quality football.
or a clear warning that people have less money every year thanks to austerity.cameron is a cockwomble
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: Nice illustration of expectation management! What it also shows is that joining the PL 'club' not just the league itself, is getting more and more difficult. We clearly won't be throwing money at it like QPR and taking a huge once-only gamble and I'm fully supportive of this sensible, if unexciting approach. How do you eat an elephant? A - One bite at a time.[/p][/quote]I agree we can't take massive risks, however FFP means that those in receipt of parachute money are going to get stronger and other sides without payments weaker, I would like to see any side who get promoted breaking the rules face fines when they drop back down, if fines equalled parachute payments that would be far fairer to those sticking within FFP . Season tickets sales are over 2000 down on this time last year, a clear warning fans can't be mugged with poor quality football.[/p][/quote]or a clear warning that people have less money every year thanks to austerity.cameron is a cockwomble Cockwomble
  • Score: 4

1:03pm Sun 15 Jun 14

pte says...

gordongull wrote:
What you say makes a lot of sense, pte, except the point about FFP. A Club's Stadium and other infrastructure are excluded for FFP purposes, so whether or not its value as an asset cancels out the building costs is irrelevant from an FFP viewpoint.
Also the contribution Tony Bloom has made to fund losses in recent seasons shouldn't be underestimated. There is no guarantee that he will get that money back.
Gordon, I never said infrastructure costs were relevant to FFP in fact the opposite. I was pointing out that when people go on about all the money TB has spent on infrastructure costs, link it to FFP and see such expenditure as irretrievably lost they are making a big mistake.

Every penny TB puts into infrastructure isn't a loss, its expenditure on assets which can be sold at a later date at a profit providing the trading account is in good order. To that extent every penny spent on infrastructure is as good as money in the bank. The only expenditure that is not recoverable is players wages and I'm sure as a businessman TB sees every penny on players wages as money down the drain. That's why the club doesnt mind spending on transfer fees for what could be a saleable asset, but baulks on the wages front

You see accounts are made up of two things: the capital account and the trading account. FFP for very good reasons has nothing to do with the former but everything to do with the latter.

TB could spend 100m on players and from the capital account it would make no difference to FFP. Sure there is a 100m liability on transfer fees but thats balanced by assets of 100m (the value of the players as a companies assets) Such capital expenditure would not affect the trading account provided TB funds expenditure with an interest free loan. That could be economically justifiable as it increases assets of his company

The only affect spending 100m on transfer fees would be the resultant increase in player wages

I'm only explaining this for people that don't understand accountancy and seem to think BHA is one great philanthropic enterprise. It's run as a business as you would expect from someone involved in online gambling an area of business not noted for philanthropy
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: What you say makes a lot of sense, pte, except the point about FFP. A Club's Stadium and other infrastructure are excluded for FFP purposes, so whether or not its value as an asset cancels out the building costs is irrelevant from an FFP viewpoint. Also the contribution Tony Bloom has made to fund losses in recent seasons shouldn't be underestimated. There is no guarantee that he will get that money back.[/p][/quote]Gordon, I never said infrastructure costs were relevant to FFP in fact the opposite. I was pointing out that when people go on about all the money TB has spent on infrastructure costs, link it to FFP and see such expenditure as irretrievably lost they are making a big mistake. Every penny TB puts into infrastructure isn't a loss, its expenditure on assets which can be sold at a later date at a profit providing the trading account is in good order. To that extent every penny spent on infrastructure is as good as money in the bank. The only expenditure that is not recoverable is players wages and I'm sure as a businessman TB sees every penny on players wages as money down the drain. That's why the club doesnt mind spending on transfer fees for what could be a saleable asset, but baulks on the wages front You see accounts are made up of two things: the capital account and the trading account. FFP for very good reasons has nothing to do with the former but everything to do with the latter. TB could spend 100m on players and from the capital account it would make no difference to FFP. Sure there is a 100m liability on transfer fees but thats balanced by assets of 100m (the value of the players as a companies assets) Such capital expenditure would not affect the trading account provided TB funds expenditure with an interest free loan. That could be economically justifiable as it increases assets of his company The only affect spending 100m on transfer fees would be the resultant increase in player wages I'm only explaining this for people that don't understand accountancy and seem to think BHA is one great philanthropic enterprise. It's run as a business as you would expect from someone involved in online gambling an area of business not noted for philanthropy pte
  • Score: 4

1:51pm Sun 15 Jun 14

gordongull says...

Thanks for explaining that , pte.
Thanks for explaining that , pte. gordongull
  • Score: 2

2:05pm Sun 15 Jun 14

bbb1969 says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
bbb1969 wrote:
Not the biggest hyypia fan and not sure about his sryle and what he will bring to Brighton but as a supporter I will get behind him and the team nonetheless.
I will moan when we have a bad result and played rubbish but will also praise when we play well.
Ffp seems to be a joke; no one knows what is going to happen to clubs not adhering to ffp.
I really hope clubs do not get away with it.
Will enjoy the England match tonight and try to spot the future Brighton talent.
Cant remember who posted and ststed we want entertainment and that the team are not goof enough. Well all I can say is that we have to get a team first and then wewill be entertsined. Cant say I agree with rubbishing a team before we have one in plsce
I agree that you can't rubbish a team before we have one in place, but on the same basis, how can you doubt Hyypia's style?
What is it exactly?
Just like your point on the team, surely the same applies to Hyypia?
not the biggest Hyypia fan is just at; don't particularly like him thats all. Not sure about his style is bases on his old BL team; last few gamez saw teams get at them with a game plan and Hyypia did not seem to have a plan b. Just an opinion as I do watch a lot of German football as well as Spain and Italy.
Justhope he develops a plan b with us.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bbb1969[/bold] wrote: Not the biggest hyypia fan and not sure about his sryle and what he will bring to Brighton but as a supporter I will get behind him and the team nonetheless. I will moan when we have a bad result and played rubbish but will also praise when we play well. Ffp seems to be a joke; no one knows what is going to happen to clubs not adhering to ffp. I really hope clubs do not get away with it. Will enjoy the England match tonight and try to spot the future Brighton talent. Cant remember who posted and ststed we want entertainment and that the team are not goof enough. Well all I can say is that we have to get a team first and then wewill be entertsined. Cant say I agree with rubbishing a team before we have one in plsce[/p][/quote]I agree that you can't rubbish a team before we have one in place, but on the same basis, how can you doubt Hyypia's style? What is it exactly? Just like your point on the team, surely the same applies to Hyypia?[/p][/quote]not the biggest Hyypia fan is just at; don't particularly like him thats all. Not sure about his style is bases on his old BL team; last few gamez saw teams get at them with a game plan and Hyypia did not seem to have a plan b. Just an opinion as I do watch a lot of German football as well as Spain and Italy. Justhope he develops a plan b with us. bbb1969
  • Score: 0

4:04pm Sun 15 Jun 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

bbb1969 wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
bbb1969 wrote:
Not the biggest hyypia fan and not sure about his sryle and what he will bring to Brighton but as a supporter I will get behind him and the team nonetheless.
I will moan when we have a bad result and played rubbish but will also praise when we play well.
Ffp seems to be a joke; no one knows what is going to happen to clubs not adhering to ffp.
I really hope clubs do not get away with it.
Will enjoy the England match tonight and try to spot the future Brighton talent.
Cant remember who posted and ststed we want entertainment and that the team are not goof enough. Well all I can say is that we have to get a team first and then wewill be entertsined. Cant say I agree with rubbishing a team before we have one in plsce
I agree that you can't rubbish a team before we have one in place, but on the same basis, how can you doubt Hyypia's style?
What is it exactly?
Just like your point on the team, surely the same applies to Hyypia?
not the biggest Hyypia fan is just at; don't particularly like him thats all. Not sure about his style is bases on his old BL team; last few gamez saw teams get at them with a game plan and Hyypia did not seem to have a plan b. Just an opinion as I do watch a lot of German football as well as Spain and Italy.
Justhope he develops a plan b with us.
Plan B has always been the bench,eg David Fairclough ,Liverpool(super sub).

If SH can motivate,keep the bench sitters happy should be okay.

We do need to get players in now holidays are over.
[quote][p][bold]bbb1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bbb1969[/bold] wrote: Not the biggest hyypia fan and not sure about his sryle and what he will bring to Brighton but as a supporter I will get behind him and the team nonetheless. I will moan when we have a bad result and played rubbish but will also praise when we play well. Ffp seems to be a joke; no one knows what is going to happen to clubs not adhering to ffp. I really hope clubs do not get away with it. Will enjoy the England match tonight and try to spot the future Brighton talent. Cant remember who posted and ststed we want entertainment and that the team are not goof enough. Well all I can say is that we have to get a team first and then wewill be entertsined. Cant say I agree with rubbishing a team before we have one in plsce[/p][/quote]I agree that you can't rubbish a team before we have one in place, but on the same basis, how can you doubt Hyypia's style? What is it exactly? Just like your point on the team, surely the same applies to Hyypia?[/p][/quote]not the biggest Hyypia fan is just at; don't particularly like him thats all. Not sure about his style is bases on his old BL team; last few gamez saw teams get at them with a game plan and Hyypia did not seem to have a plan b. Just an opinion as I do watch a lot of German football as well as Spain and Italy. Justhope he develops a plan b with us.[/p][/quote]Plan B has always been the bench,eg David Fairclough ,Liverpool(super sub). If SH can motivate,keep the bench sitters happy should be okay. We do need to get players in now holidays are over. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 1

4:39pm Sun 15 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

I remain convinced that the outcome of our upcoming season will be largely determined by who we borrow, even if we do buy four or five players

We can borrow quality that we might be able to buy, we can buy what we can afford, ergo borrow gold and buy silver, we do not have the money to buy all gold.
I remain convinced that the outcome of our upcoming season will be largely determined by who we borrow, even if we do buy four or five players We can borrow quality that we might be able to buy, we can buy what we can afford, ergo borrow gold and buy silver, we do not have the money to buy all gold. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

4:53pm Sun 15 Jun 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
I remain convinced that the outcome of our upcoming season will be largely determined by who we borrow, even if we do buy four or five players

We can borrow quality that we might be able to buy, we can buy what we can afford, ergo borrow gold and buy silver, we do not have the money to buy all gold.
Do not think we will get a Bridge Upson where the home club pay most of the wages.

So Albion have to be happy with untried players and hope it works out.Savage came here but he was having a laugh.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I remain convinced that the outcome of our upcoming season will be largely determined by who we borrow, even if we do buy four or five players We can borrow quality that we might be able to buy, we can buy what we can afford, ergo borrow gold and buy silver, we do not have the money to buy all gold.[/p][/quote]Do not think we will get a Bridge Upson where the home club pay most of the wages. So Albion have to be happy with untried players and hope it works out.Savage came here but he was having a laugh. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 0

5:55pm Sun 15 Jun 14

Cockwomble says...

bbb1969 wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
bbb1969 wrote:
Not the biggest hyypia fan and not sure about his sryle and what he will bring to Brighton but as a supporter I will get behind him and the team nonetheless.
I will moan when we have a bad result and played rubbish but will also praise when we play well.
Ffp seems to be a joke; no one knows what is going to happen to clubs not adhering to ffp.
I really hope clubs do not get away with it.
Will enjoy the England match tonight and try to spot the future Brighton talent.
Cant remember who posted and ststed we want entertainment and that the team are not goof enough. Well all I can say is that we have to get a team first and then wewill be entertsined. Cant say I agree with rubbishing a team before we have one in plsce
I agree that you can't rubbish a team before we have one in place, but on the same basis, how can you doubt Hyypia's style?
What is it exactly?
Just like your point on the team, surely the same applies to Hyypia?
not the biggest Hyypia fan is just at; don't particularly like him thats all. Not sure about his style is bases on his old BL team; last few gamez saw teams get at them with a game plan and Hyypia did not seem to have a plan b. Just an opinion as I do watch a lot of German football as well as Spain and Italy.
Justhope he develops a plan b with us.
plan b schmlan b.cliched bobbins.cockwomble
[quote][p][bold]bbb1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bbb1969[/bold] wrote: Not the biggest hyypia fan and not sure about his sryle and what he will bring to Brighton but as a supporter I will get behind him and the team nonetheless. I will moan when we have a bad result and played rubbish but will also praise when we play well. Ffp seems to be a joke; no one knows what is going to happen to clubs not adhering to ffp. I really hope clubs do not get away with it. Will enjoy the England match tonight and try to spot the future Brighton talent. Cant remember who posted and ststed we want entertainment and that the team are not goof enough. Well all I can say is that we have to get a team first and then wewill be entertsined. Cant say I agree with rubbishing a team before we have one in plsce[/p][/quote]I agree that you can't rubbish a team before we have one in place, but on the same basis, how can you doubt Hyypia's style? What is it exactly? Just like your point on the team, surely the same applies to Hyypia?[/p][/quote]not the biggest Hyypia fan is just at; don't particularly like him thats all. Not sure about his style is bases on his old BL team; last few gamez saw teams get at them with a game plan and Hyypia did not seem to have a plan b. Just an opinion as I do watch a lot of German football as well as Spain and Italy. Justhope he develops a plan b with us.[/p][/quote]plan b schmlan b.cliched bobbins.cockwomble Cockwomble
  • Score: 1

7:25pm Sun 15 Jun 14

ringtone says...

Cockwomble wrote:
bbb1969 wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
bbb1969 wrote:
Not the biggest hyypia fan and not sure about his sryle and what he will bring to Brighton but as a supporter I will get behind him and the team nonetheless.
I will moan when we have a bad result and played rubbish but will also praise when we play well.
Ffp seems to be a joke; no one knows what is going to happen to clubs not adhering to ffp.
I really hope clubs do not get away with it.
Will enjoy the England match tonight and try to spot the future Brighton talent.
Cant remember who posted and ststed we want entertainment and that the team are not goof enough. Well all I can say is that we have to get a team first and then wewill be entertsined. Cant say I agree with rubbishing a team before we have one in plsce
I agree that you can't rubbish a team before we have one in place, but on the same basis, how can you doubt Hyypia's style?
What is it exactly?
Just like your point on the team, surely the same applies to Hyypia?
not the biggest Hyypia fan is just at; don't particularly like him thats all. Not sure about his style is bases on his old BL team; last few gamez saw teams get at them with a game plan and Hyypia did not seem to have a plan b. Just an opinion as I do watch a lot of German football as well as Spain and Italy.
Justhope he develops a plan b with us.
plan b schmlan b.cliched bobbins.cockwomble
Hello Arnie.

You are superman, spiderman whatever hero

righting the wrongs of this site.

As i said before, more convincing if you post at same time.

I guess this is impratical but really just smacks of lazyiness.
[quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bbb1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bbb1969[/bold] wrote: Not the biggest hyypia fan and not sure about his sryle and what he will bring to Brighton but as a supporter I will get behind him and the team nonetheless. I will moan when we have a bad result and played rubbish but will also praise when we play well. Ffp seems to be a joke; no one knows what is going to happen to clubs not adhering to ffp. I really hope clubs do not get away with it. Will enjoy the England match tonight and try to spot the future Brighton talent. Cant remember who posted and ststed we want entertainment and that the team are not goof enough. Well all I can say is that we have to get a team first and then wewill be entertsined. Cant say I agree with rubbishing a team before we have one in plsce[/p][/quote]I agree that you can't rubbish a team before we have one in place, but on the same basis, how can you doubt Hyypia's style? What is it exactly? Just like your point on the team, surely the same applies to Hyypia?[/p][/quote]not the biggest Hyypia fan is just at; don't particularly like him thats all. Not sure about his style is bases on his old BL team; last few gamez saw teams get at them with a game plan and Hyypia did not seem to have a plan b. Just an opinion as I do watch a lot of German football as well as Spain and Italy. Justhope he develops a plan b with us.[/p][/quote]plan b schmlan b.cliched bobbins.cockwomble[/p][/quote]Hello Arnie. You are superman, spiderman whatever hero righting the wrongs of this site. As i said before, more convincing if you post at same time. I guess this is impratical but really just smacks of lazyiness. ringtone
  • Score: 0

9:26pm Sun 15 Jun 14

gordongull says...

bbb1969 wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
bbb1969 wrote:
Not the biggest hyypia fan and not sure about his sryle and what he will bring to Brighton but as a supporter I will get behind him and the team nonetheless.
I will moan when we have a bad result and played rubbish but will also praise when we play well.
Ffp seems to be a joke; no one knows what is going to happen to clubs not adhering to ffp.
I really hope clubs do not get away with it.
Will enjoy the England match tonight and try to spot the future Brighton talent.
Cant remember who posted and ststed we want entertainment and that the team are not goof enough. Well all I can say is that we have to get a team first and then wewill be entertsined. Cant say I agree with rubbishing a team before we have one in plsce
I agree that you can't rubbish a team before we have one in place, but on the same basis, how can you doubt Hyypia's style?
What is it exactly?
Just like your point on the team, surely the same applies to Hyypia?
not the biggest Hyypia fan is just at; don't particularly like him thats all. Not sure about his style is bases on his old BL team; last few gamez saw teams get at them with a game plan and Hyypia did not seem to have a plan b. Just an opinion as I do watch a lot of German football as well as Spain and Italy.
Justhope he develops a plan b with us.
Garcia took us to 6th without a Plan B.
Maybe we should give Sami's Plan A a chance before we lose any sleep over his Plan B.
[quote][p][bold]bbb1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bbb1969[/bold] wrote: Not the biggest hyypia fan and not sure about his sryle and what he will bring to Brighton but as a supporter I will get behind him and the team nonetheless. I will moan when we have a bad result and played rubbish but will also praise when we play well. Ffp seems to be a joke; no one knows what is going to happen to clubs not adhering to ffp. I really hope clubs do not get away with it. Will enjoy the England match tonight and try to spot the future Brighton talent. Cant remember who posted and ststed we want entertainment and that the team are not goof enough. Well all I can say is that we have to get a team first and then wewill be entertsined. Cant say I agree with rubbishing a team before we have one in plsce[/p][/quote]I agree that you can't rubbish a team before we have one in place, but on the same basis, how can you doubt Hyypia's style? What is it exactly? Just like your point on the team, surely the same applies to Hyypia?[/p][/quote]not the biggest Hyypia fan is just at; don't particularly like him thats all. Not sure about his style is bases on his old BL team; last few gamez saw teams get at them with a game plan and Hyypia did not seem to have a plan b. Just an opinion as I do watch a lot of German football as well as Spain and Italy. Justhope he develops a plan b with us.[/p][/quote]Garcia took us to 6th without a Plan B. Maybe we should give Sami's Plan A a chance before we lose any sleep over his Plan B. gordongull
  • Score: 4

12:20am Mon 16 Jun 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

ringtone wrote:
Cockwomble wrote:
bbb1969 wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
bbb1969 wrote:
Not the biggest hyypia fan and not sure about his sryle and what he will bring to Brighton but as a supporter I will get behind him and the team nonetheless.
I will moan when we have a bad result and played rubbish but will also praise when we play well.
Ffp seems to be a joke; no one knows what is going to happen to clubs not adhering to ffp.
I really hope clubs do not get away with it.
Will enjoy the England match tonight and try to spot the future Brighton talent.
Cant remember who posted and ststed we want entertainment and that the team are not goof enough. Well all I can say is that we have to get a team first and then wewill be entertsined. Cant say I agree with rubbishing a team before we have one in plsce
I agree that you can't rubbish a team before we have one in place, but on the same basis, how can you doubt Hyypia's style?
What is it exactly?
Just like your point on the team, surely the same applies to Hyypia?
not the biggest Hyypia fan is just at; don't particularly like him thats all. Not sure about his style is bases on his old BL team; last few gamez saw teams get at them with a game plan and Hyypia did not seem to have a plan b. Just an opinion as I do watch a lot of German football as well as Spain and Italy.
Justhope he develops a plan b with us.
plan b schmlan b.cliched bobbins.cockwomble
Hello Arnie.

You are superman, spiderman whatever hero

righting the wrongs of this site.

As i said before, more convincing if you post at same time.

I guess this is impratical but really just smacks of lazyiness.
I'm not taking the blame for cockwomble. Just another in a long line of people on here I ignore. Which reminds me...
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bbb1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bbb1969[/bold] wrote: Not the biggest hyypia fan and not sure about his sryle and what he will bring to Brighton but as a supporter I will get behind him and the team nonetheless. I will moan when we have a bad result and played rubbish but will also praise when we play well. Ffp seems to be a joke; no one knows what is going to happen to clubs not adhering to ffp. I really hope clubs do not get away with it. Will enjoy the England match tonight and try to spot the future Brighton talent. Cant remember who posted and ststed we want entertainment and that the team are not goof enough. Well all I can say is that we have to get a team first and then wewill be entertsined. Cant say I agree with rubbishing a team before we have one in plsce[/p][/quote]I agree that you can't rubbish a team before we have one in place, but on the same basis, how can you doubt Hyypia's style? What is it exactly? Just like your point on the team, surely the same applies to Hyypia?[/p][/quote]not the biggest Hyypia fan is just at; don't particularly like him thats all. Not sure about his style is bases on his old BL team; last few gamez saw teams get at them with a game plan and Hyypia did not seem to have a plan b. Just an opinion as I do watch a lot of German football as well as Spain and Italy. Justhope he develops a plan b with us.[/p][/quote]plan b schmlan b.cliched bobbins.cockwomble[/p][/quote]Hello Arnie. You are superman, spiderman whatever hero righting the wrongs of this site. As i said before, more convincing if you post at same time. I guess this is impratical but really just smacks of lazyiness.[/p][/quote]I'm not taking the blame for cockwomble. Just another in a long line of people on here I ignore. Which reminds me... Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 3

9:12am Mon 16 Jun 14

Piglet1 says...

pjwilk wrote:
Cap'n Pugwash wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
mickagull wrote:
Justin wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.
Let's just hope we all live to see it, sobering thought.
There is just no ambition in our management team,it is all so negative.Barber is saying we can get in the top six despite having no money but relying on good fortune.You would think we had the lowest crowds and the worst budget.We may have to stay in the Championship for a few more years.Does he spread his doom and gloom around all the staff and players,taxi for Barber.Even newly promoted clubs say they are going for another promotion whats gone wrong with this club,we had more ambition at the Withdean.
I think the Argus 'idiot magnet' has been turned up to full power today.

No ambition? There's a £35 MILLION training complex and academy opening for business in a few days. How much more ambition does the club have to show to satisfy people like you?
As for the club's budget-are you aware of what has caused The Albion to post the losses it has recently? Do I need to remind you of all of the losses racked up during the Withdean years? Losses that need getting out of the way in much the same way Arsenal did when they moved into The Emirates.
Argus, please turn the magnet down or even better-OFF!
All that infrastructure and money spent but left with a crap team,the fans dont care about all that money spent.We just want an exciting winning team to watch which we have not got,we have been bored to distraction since we have been at the Amex.This Management team has had us trading water for too long.
Nonsense. The obvious answer if you are so bored is not to come. You will not be missed.
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cap'n Pugwash[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Justin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.[/p][/quote]Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.[/p][/quote]Let's just hope we all live to see it, sobering thought.[/p][/quote]There is just no ambition in our management team,it is all so negative.Barber is saying we can get in the top six despite having no money but relying on good fortune.You would think we had the lowest crowds and the worst budget.We may have to stay in the Championship for a few more years.Does he spread his doom and gloom around all the staff and players,taxi for Barber.Even newly promoted clubs say they are going for another promotion whats gone wrong with this club,we had more ambition at the Withdean.[/p][/quote]I think the Argus 'idiot magnet' has been turned up to full power today. No ambition? There's a £35 MILLION training complex and academy opening for business in a few days. How much more ambition does the club have to show to satisfy people like you? As for the club's budget-are you aware of what has caused The Albion to post the losses it has recently? Do I need to remind you of all of the losses racked up during the Withdean years? Losses that need getting out of the way in much the same way Arsenal did when they moved into The Emirates. Argus, please turn the magnet down or even better-OFF![/p][/quote]All that infrastructure and money spent but left with a crap team,the fans dont care about all that money spent.We just want an exciting winning team to watch which we have not got,we have been bored to distraction since we have been at the Amex.This Management team has had us trading water for too long.[/p][/quote]Nonsense. The obvious answer if you are so bored is not to come. You will not be missed. Piglet1
  • Score: 4

1:44am Tue 17 Jun 14

Oscar's Chin says...

pjwilk wrote:
mickagull wrote:
Justin wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.
Let's just hope we all live to see it, sobering thought.
There is just no ambition in our management team,it is all so negative.Barber is saying we can get in the top six despite having no money but relying on good fortune.You would think we had the lowest crowds and the worst budget.We may have to stay in the Championship for a few more years.Does he spread his doom and gloom around all the staff and players,taxi for Barber.Even newly promoted clubs say they are going for another promotion whats gone wrong with this club,we had more ambition at the Withdean.
It's weird! You MUST be on an entirely different planet....we are Brighton supporters hear. Do you have a doppelgänger planet where all the names are the same? What's the weather like there?
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Justin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.[/p][/quote]Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.[/p][/quote]Let's just hope we all live to see it, sobering thought.[/p][/quote]There is just no ambition in our management team,it is all so negative.Barber is saying we can get in the top six despite having no money but relying on good fortune.You would think we had the lowest crowds and the worst budget.We may have to stay in the Championship for a few more years.Does he spread his doom and gloom around all the staff and players,taxi for Barber.Even newly promoted clubs say they are going for another promotion whats gone wrong with this club,we had more ambition at the Withdean.[/p][/quote]It's weird! You MUST be on an entirely different planet....we are Brighton supporters hear. Do you have a doppelgänger planet where all the names are the same? What's the weather like there? Oscar's Chin
  • Score: 2

1:50am Tue 17 Jun 14

Oscar's Chin says...

pjwilk wrote:
Cap'n Pugwash wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
mickagull wrote:
Justin wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.
Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.
Let's just hope we all live to see it, sobering thought.
There is just no ambition in our management team,it is all so negative.Barber is saying we can get in the top six despite having no money but relying on good fortune.You would think we had the lowest crowds and the worst budget.We may have to stay in the Championship for a few more years.Does he spread his doom and gloom around all the staff and players,taxi for Barber.Even newly promoted clubs say they are going for another promotion whats gone wrong with this club,we had more ambition at the Withdean.
I think the Argus 'idiot magnet' has been turned up to full power today.

No ambition? There's a £35 MILLION training complex and academy opening for business in a few days. How much more ambition does the club have to show to satisfy people like you?
As for the club's budget-are you aware of what has caused The Albion to post the losses it has recently? Do I need to remind you of all of the losses racked up during the Withdean years? Losses that need getting out of the way in much the same way Arsenal did when they moved into The Emirates.
Argus, please turn the magnet down or even better-OFF!
All that infrastructure and money spent but left with a crap team,the fans dont care about all that money spent.We just want an exciting winning team to watch which we have not got,we have been bored to distraction since we have been at the Amex.This Management team has had us trading water for too long.
How about you sponsor the club training ground to the tune of £30m so we could spend as freely as you demand without breaching FFP....everyone's happy!

If you call the club in the morning we can have McCormack, Rhodes, Van Dijk, Puyol and Negredo by tea time. Sorted!

What's that? Oh you don't quite have your OWN money to waste?
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cap'n Pugwash[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Justin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Yesterday we had Bloom saying there is no pressure to get in the top six even though there is money to spend, now Barber saying we can get in the top six despite not having much money to spend compared to other clubs. Each sentence contradicts the previous one, no one seems to know what the club wants or how to achieve it. No wonder we are still stuck in the championship and cant hold on to good managers! They are covering themselves in case it goes wrong, the message this sends out is a lack of ambition, which is nothing new.[/p][/quote]Are they really incompatible? The budget is one that enables us to compete for a playoff place. But that hardly means the manager will be sacked if we finish 7th. The final league positions are never the same as budget rankings because there's lots of other factors like luck, how well other teams do relative to their budgets etc. If we're competitive each year we'll make the PL eventually.[/p][/quote]Let's just hope we all live to see it, sobering thought.[/p][/quote]There is just no ambition in our management team,it is all so negative.Barber is saying we can get in the top six despite having no money but relying on good fortune.You would think we had the lowest crowds and the worst budget.We may have to stay in the Championship for a few more years.Does he spread his doom and gloom around all the staff and players,taxi for Barber.Even newly promoted clubs say they are going for another promotion whats gone wrong with this club,we had more ambition at the Withdean.[/p][/quote]I think the Argus 'idiot magnet' has been turned up to full power today. No ambition? There's a £35 MILLION training complex and academy opening for business in a few days. How much more ambition does the club have to show to satisfy people like you? As for the club's budget-are you aware of what has caused The Albion to post the losses it has recently? Do I need to remind you of all of the losses racked up during the Withdean years? Losses that need getting out of the way in much the same way Arsenal did when they moved into The Emirates. Argus, please turn the magnet down or even better-OFF![/p][/quote]All that infrastructure and money spent but left with a crap team,the fans dont care about all that money spent.We just want an exciting winning team to watch which we have not got,we have been bored to distraction since we have been at the Amex.This Management team has had us trading water for too long.[/p][/quote]How about you sponsor the club training ground to the tune of £30m so we could spend as freely as you demand without breaching FFP....everyone's happy! If you call the club in the morning we can have McCormack, Rhodes, Van Dijk, Puyol and Negredo by tea time. Sorted! What's that? Oh you don't quite have your OWN money to waste? Oscar's Chin
  • Score: 3

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