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Crofts still playing catch-up - but he could be fit for opening day

The Argus: Andrew Crofts Andrew Crofts

Andrew Crofts will miss the start of pre-season training with Albion.

But new boss Sami Hyypia hopes to have the key midfielder fit for the Seagulls' Championship campaign, which starts at home to Sheffield Wednesday on August 9.

Welsh international Crofts contributed six goals for Oscar Garcia's side last season before suffering cruciate knee ligament damage against Birmingham at the Amex in January.

The Albion players begin training at their new base in Lancing on Monday following medical tests today and tomorrow.

Hyypia said: "I haven’t seen the latest list yet, but I think Andrew Crofts has a few weeks to get to full fitness so he won’t be starting with us. Hopefully he will join us soon and be fit for the whole season."

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6:59am Thu 26 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs says...

A shame. The Argus picking up scraps again. The words from SH are taken straight from the lower end of story posted on the club's website yesterday afternoon.
There are times when i feel sorry for the lads writing this stuff and this is one of them. It feels as if the club want to completely control their own message through their own channels with little consideration for wider media.
It won't make me sign up for iPlayer....
A shame. The Argus picking up scraps again. The words from SH are taken straight from the lower end of story posted on the club's website yesterday afternoon. There are times when i feel sorry for the lads writing this stuff and this is one of them. It feels as if the club want to completely control their own message through their own channels with little consideration for wider media. It won't make me sign up for iPlayer.... Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 10

7:04am Thu 26 Jun 14

mark by the sea says...

If crofts and Stephens are both fit, how is sami going to accommodate both players and Ince , Forster caskey and march ,.. We need more creativity and more goals, if we stick with two wide players can we play cms in that formation? Add the new midfielder to that list and the permutations are pretty good start ... Defence is a massive rebuild not only for now but to replace GG and find a right back long term.
I hope sami has a budget to take us to the next level, I think ulloa will be wanting away with premier football offering him big wages.
If crofts and Stephens are both fit, how is sami going to accommodate both players and Ince , Forster caskey and march ,.. We need more creativity and more goals, if we stick with two wide players can we play cms in that formation? Add the new midfielder to that list and the permutations are pretty good start ... Defence is a massive rebuild not only for now but to replace GG and find a right back long term. I hope sami has a budget to take us to the next level, I think ulloa will be wanting away with premier football offering him big wages. mark by the sea
  • Score: 4

7:22am Thu 26 Jun 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?
The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use? Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -11

7:28am Thu 26 Jun 14

Far gull says...

Good luck Crofty in rehab it was a serious injury. Your form then injury i believe cost us last season.
Have just read previous thread on here and without going over old ground the point that struck me most was how ridiculous football wages have become when most on here are arguing about paying an extra 3k on top of 10 k for this player or that.
Bet None of contributors on here earn in a year what our players are already getting each month. Actually think Barber ,Burke and Tony have it right . Madness and financial suicide to pay these wages on our income.
Only way is youngsters developed by ourselves or a multi billionaire investor who can do what Abramovic or the Sheik at Man City have done,and their are probably 400 other odd clubs round the globe who could argue they were in the market for one to.
We are on the only available route everyone get used to it.
Good luck Crofty in rehab it was a serious injury. Your form then injury i believe cost us last season. Have just read previous thread on here and without going over old ground the point that struck me most was how ridiculous football wages have become when most on here are arguing about paying an extra 3k on top of 10 k for this player or that. Bet None of contributors on here earn in a year what our players are already getting each month. Actually think Barber ,Burke and Tony have it right . Madness and financial suicide to pay these wages on our income. Only way is youngsters developed by ourselves or a multi billionaire investor who can do what Abramovic or the Sheik at Man City have done,and their are probably 400 other odd clubs round the globe who could argue they were in the market for one to. We are on the only available route everyone get used to it. Far gull
  • Score: 17

7:30am Thu 26 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?
It isn't only used by the first team.....
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?[/p][/quote]It isn't only used by the first team..... Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 5

7:57am Thu 26 Jun 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Good luck Andrew. Looking forward to getting you back but don't rush it.
On another thread does anyone know if there is a viewing area at the new complex to watch our heroes going through their paces?
Good luck Andrew. Looking forward to getting you back but don't rush it. On another thread does anyone know if there is a viewing area at the new complex to watch our heroes going through their paces? Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 3

8:46am Thu 26 Jun 14

AlfieT says...

Far gull wrote:
Good luck Crofty in rehab it was a serious injury. Your form then injury i believe cost us last season.
Have just read previous thread on here and without going over old ground the point that struck me most was how ridiculous football wages have become when most on here are arguing about paying an extra 3k on top of 10 k for this player or that.
Bet None of contributors on here earn in a year what our players are already getting each month. Actually think Barber ,Burke and Tony have it right . Madness and financial suicide to pay these wages on our income.
Only way is youngsters developed by ourselves or a multi billionaire investor who can do what Abramovic or the Sheik at Man City have done,and their are probably 400 other odd clubs round the globe who could argue they were in the market for one to.
We are on the only available route everyone get used to it.
I did hear a rumour of a significant investor based in Australia, idle gossip perhaps, but outside of the capital the south east, in particular Brighton could be a very attractive proposition for a potential investor.
[quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: Good luck Crofty in rehab it was a serious injury. Your form then injury i believe cost us last season. Have just read previous thread on here and without going over old ground the point that struck me most was how ridiculous football wages have become when most on here are arguing about paying an extra 3k on top of 10 k for this player or that. Bet None of contributors on here earn in a year what our players are already getting each month. Actually think Barber ,Burke and Tony have it right . Madness and financial suicide to pay these wages on our income. Only way is youngsters developed by ourselves or a multi billionaire investor who can do what Abramovic or the Sheik at Man City have done,and their are probably 400 other odd clubs round the globe who could argue they were in the market for one to. We are on the only available route everyone get used to it.[/p][/quote]I did hear a rumour of a significant investor based in Australia, idle gossip perhaps, but outside of the capital the south east, in particular Brighton could be a very attractive proposition for a potential investor. AlfieT
  • Score: -7

8:51am Thu 26 Jun 14

Captain Haddock says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
Good luck Andrew. Looking forward to getting you back but don't rush it.
On another thread does anyone know if there is a viewing area at the new complex to watch our heroes going through their paces?
I believe not. No tours or other such stuff either.
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: Good luck Andrew. Looking forward to getting you back but don't rush it. On another thread does anyone know if there is a viewing area at the new complex to watch our heroes going through their paces?[/p][/quote]I believe not. No tours or other such stuff either. Captain Haddock
  • Score: -3

8:51am Thu 26 Jun 14

Captain Haddock says...

mark by the sea wrote:
If crofts and Stephens are both fit, how is sami going to accommodate both players and Ince , Forster caskey and march ,.. We need more creativity and more goals, if we stick with two wide players can we play cms in that formation? Add the new midfielder to that list and the permutations are pretty good start ... Defence is a massive rebuild not only for now but to replace GG and find a right back long term.
I hope sami has a budget to take us to the next level, I think ulloa will be wanting away with premier football offering him big wages.
For RB, Tavernier of Newcastle. Let's get him!
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: If crofts and Stephens are both fit, how is sami going to accommodate both players and Ince , Forster caskey and march ,.. We need more creativity and more goals, if we stick with two wide players can we play cms in that formation? Add the new midfielder to that list and the permutations are pretty good start ... Defence is a massive rebuild not only for now but to replace GG and find a right back long term. I hope sami has a budget to take us to the next level, I think ulloa will be wanting away with premier football offering him big wages.[/p][/quote]For RB, Tavernier of Newcastle. Let's get him! Captain Haddock
  • Score: 3

9:22am Thu 26 Jun 14

Cap'n Pugwash says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?
I have never seen anybody as desperate as you are to prove to the world just how dumb you are.
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?[/p][/quote]I have never seen anybody as desperate as you are to prove to the world just how dumb you are. Cap'n Pugwash
  • Score: 9

9:26am Thu 26 Jun 14

JeffLomer says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?
Morning Mayfied,
Serious question to you what is it you do not like about the club is it were not going out and spending millions off pounds on new players we have not got in the bank to spend, or you don't like it because were sticking to fair play rules which keeps the club running the right way, we can't spend money we have not got or we will end up in the premiership probably for one season, our players would be on ridiculous wages and we would have to get rid off them because we could not afford to pay premiership wages in the championship,
Leeds united good example champions league semi finals two seasons later league one, why because they there club was not and probably still is not run the right way, Burnley managed to go up on a small budget why can't we,
I want our club to be here for ever not to make suicidal decisions just to get in the premiership, I'm happy the way the club is being run!!
Up the Albion!!
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?[/p][/quote]Morning Mayfied, Serious question to you what is it you do not like about the club is it were not going out and spending millions off pounds on new players we have not got in the bank to spend, or you don't like it because were sticking to fair play rules which keeps the club running the right way, we can't spend money we have not got or we will end up in the premiership probably for one season, our players would be on ridiculous wages and we would have to get rid off them because we could not afford to pay premiership wages in the championship, Leeds united good example champions league semi finals two seasons later league one, why because they there club was not and probably still is not run the right way, Burnley managed to go up on a small budget why can't we, I want our club to be here for ever not to make suicidal decisions just to get in the premiership, I'm happy the way the club is being run!! Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 14

9:31am Thu 26 Jun 14

Newhavenles says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
A shame. The Argus picking up scraps again. The words from SH are taken straight from the lower end of story posted on the club's website yesterday afternoon.
There are times when i feel sorry for the lads writing this stuff and this is one of them. It feels as if the club want to completely control their own message through their own channels with little consideration for wider media.
It won't make me sign up for iPlayer....
Nothing will make me sign up for iplayer
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: A shame. The Argus picking up scraps again. The words from SH are taken straight from the lower end of story posted on the club's website yesterday afternoon. There are times when i feel sorry for the lads writing this stuff and this is one of them. It feels as if the club want to completely control their own message through their own channels with little consideration for wider media. It won't make me sign up for iPlayer....[/p][/quote]Nothing will make me sign up for iplayer Newhavenles
  • Score: 4

9:43am Thu 26 Jun 14

kipper12 says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?
ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?[/p][/quote]ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA kipper12
  • Score: 4

9:57am Thu 26 Jun 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

kipper12 wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?
ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA
I'm sure it is superb and so it should be for 30 million! Does it have a player cloning device and a zero gravity facility for astronauts? Problem is, you can build a state of the art 30 million pound stable, but if you put a donkey in it, no matter what you train it it will still be a donkey when it comes back out. As I said, for the type of players we have or are likely to have, it won't really be that much use.
[quote][p][bold]kipper12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?[/p][/quote]ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA[/p][/quote]I'm sure it is superb and so it should be for 30 million! Does it have a player cloning device and a zero gravity facility for astronauts? Problem is, you can build a state of the art 30 million pound stable, but if you put a donkey in it, no matter what you train it it will still be a donkey when it comes back out. As I said, for the type of players we have or are likely to have, it won't really be that much use. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -2

10:20am Thu 26 Jun 14

AlfieT says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
kipper12 wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?
ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA
I'm sure it is superb and so it should be for 30 million! Does it have a player cloning device and a zero gravity facility for astronauts? Problem is, you can build a state of the art 30 million pound stable, but if you put a donkey in it, no matter what you train it it will still be a donkey when it comes back out. As I said, for the type of players we have or are likely to have, it won't really be that much use.
Clown, the main squad will train there, but it's more about attracting talented youngsters from the uk and Europe, naming rights to be announced and an academy football director soon. This facility heralds another fantastic chapter in what has been an incredible few years. This club is going to the premiership without doubt.
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kipper12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?[/p][/quote]ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA[/p][/quote]I'm sure it is superb and so it should be for 30 million! Does it have a player cloning device and a zero gravity facility for astronauts? Problem is, you can build a state of the art 30 million pound stable, but if you put a donkey in it, no matter what you train it it will still be a donkey when it comes back out. As I said, for the type of players we have or are likely to have, it won't really be that much use.[/p][/quote]Clown, the main squad will train there, but it's more about attracting talented youngsters from the uk and Europe, naming rights to be announced and an academy football director soon. This facility heralds another fantastic chapter in what has been an incredible few years. This club is going to the premiership without doubt. AlfieT
  • Score: 0

10:39am Thu 26 Jun 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
kipper12 wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?
ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA
I'm sure it is superb and so it should be for 30 million! Does it have a player cloning device and a zero gravity facility for astronauts? Problem is, you can build a state of the art 30 million pound stable, but if you put a donkey in it, no matter what you train it it will still be a donkey when it comes back out. As I said, for the type of players we have or are likely to have, it won't really be that much use.
Too true,even for the youth,if the lad is good the big clubs will want him.

Spurs Arsenal Chelsea etc,and who do you think the kid, mummy and daddy will want him to sign for.
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kipper12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?[/p][/quote]ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA[/p][/quote]I'm sure it is superb and so it should be for 30 million! Does it have a player cloning device and a zero gravity facility for astronauts? Problem is, you can build a state of the art 30 million pound stable, but if you put a donkey in it, no matter what you train it it will still be a donkey when it comes back out. As I said, for the type of players we have or are likely to have, it won't really be that much use.[/p][/quote]Too true,even for the youth,if the lad is good the big clubs will want him. Spurs Arsenal Chelsea etc,and who do you think the kid, mummy and daddy will want him to sign for. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: -2

10:54am Thu 26 Jun 14

JeffLomer says...

don't wanna do it like that wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
kipper12 wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?
ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA
I'm sure it is superb and so it should be for 30 million! Does it have a player cloning device and a zero gravity facility for astronauts? Problem is, you can build a state of the art 30 million pound stable, but if you put a donkey in it, no matter what you train it it will still be a donkey when it comes back out. As I said, for the type of players we have or are likely to have, it won't really be that much use.
Too true,even for the youth,if the lad is good the big clubs will want him.

Spurs Arsenal Chelsea etc,and who do you think the kid, mummy and daddy will want him to sign for.
Shall we ask George Cole parents that question do you want to stay at Chelsea and probably disappear out the game in the next two years or take a chance at Brighton were you could end up playing first team football, some people are clueless and I would put you in that bracket,
[quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kipper12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?[/p][/quote]ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA[/p][/quote]I'm sure it is superb and so it should be for 30 million! Does it have a player cloning device and a zero gravity facility for astronauts? Problem is, you can build a state of the art 30 million pound stable, but if you put a donkey in it, no matter what you train it it will still be a donkey when it comes back out. As I said, for the type of players we have or are likely to have, it won't really be that much use.[/p][/quote]Too true,even for the youth,if the lad is good the big clubs will want him. Spurs Arsenal Chelsea etc,and who do you think the kid, mummy and daddy will want him to sign for.[/p][/quote]Shall we ask George Cole parents that question do you want to stay at Chelsea and probably disappear out the game in the next two years or take a chance at Brighton were you could end up playing first team football, some people are clueless and I would put you in that bracket, JeffLomer
  • Score: 1

11:20am Thu 26 Jun 14

AlfieT says...

JeffLomer wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
kipper12 wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?
ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA
I'm sure it is superb and so it should be for 30 million! Does it have a player cloning device and a zero gravity facility for astronauts? Problem is, you can build a state of the art 30 million pound stable, but if you put a donkey in it, no matter what you train it it will still be a donkey when it comes back out. As I said, for the type of players we have or are likely to have, it won't really be that much use.
Too true,even for the youth,if the lad is good the big clubs will want him.

Spurs Arsenal Chelsea etc,and who do you think the kid, mummy and daddy will want him to sign for.
Shall we ask George Cole parents that question do you want to stay at Chelsea and probably disappear out the game in the next two years or take a chance at Brighton were you could end up playing first team football, some people are clueless and I would put you in that bracket,
Save your breath Jeff, these two are not fans, just very jealous of the Brighton revolution. Whatever any true supporter posts on here will be slated by these wums.
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kipper12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?[/p][/quote]ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA[/p][/quote]I'm sure it is superb and so it should be for 30 million! Does it have a player cloning device and a zero gravity facility for astronauts? Problem is, you can build a state of the art 30 million pound stable, but if you put a donkey in it, no matter what you train it it will still be a donkey when it comes back out. As I said, for the type of players we have or are likely to have, it won't really be that much use.[/p][/quote]Too true,even for the youth,if the lad is good the big clubs will want him. Spurs Arsenal Chelsea etc,and who do you think the kid, mummy and daddy will want him to sign for.[/p][/quote]Shall we ask George Cole parents that question do you want to stay at Chelsea and probably disappear out the game in the next two years or take a chance at Brighton were you could end up playing first team football, some people are clueless and I would put you in that bracket,[/p][/quote]Save your breath Jeff, these two are not fans, just very jealous of the Brighton revolution. Whatever any true supporter posts on here will be slated by these wums. AlfieT
  • Score: 0

11:27am Thu 26 Jun 14

pjwilk says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
kipper12 wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?
ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA
I'm sure it is superb and so it should be for 30 million! Does it have a player cloning device and a zero gravity facility for astronauts? Problem is, you can build a state of the art 30 million pound stable, but if you put a donkey in it, no matter what you train it it will still be a donkey when it comes back out. As I said, for the type of players we have or are likely to have, it won't really be that much use.
Agree you cant train donkeys into Premiership players,even with a 100million training base.
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kipper12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?[/p][/quote]ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA[/p][/quote]I'm sure it is superb and so it should be for 30 million! Does it have a player cloning device and a zero gravity facility for astronauts? Problem is, you can build a state of the art 30 million pound stable, but if you put a donkey in it, no matter what you train it it will still be a donkey when it comes back out. As I said, for the type of players we have or are likely to have, it won't really be that much use.[/p][/quote]Agree you cant train donkeys into Premiership players,even with a 100million training base. pjwilk
  • Score: 1

11:27am Thu 26 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs says...

JeffLomer wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
kipper12 wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?
ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA
I'm sure it is superb and so it should be for 30 million! Does it have a player cloning device and a zero gravity facility for astronauts? Problem is, you can build a state of the art 30 million pound stable, but if you put a donkey in it, no matter what you train it it will still be a donkey when it comes back out. As I said, for the type of players we have or are likely to have, it won't really be that much use.
Too true,even for the youth,if the lad is good the big clubs will want him.

Spurs Arsenal Chelsea etc,and who do you think the kid, mummy and daddy will want him to sign for.
Shall we ask George Cole parents that question do you want to stay at Chelsea and probably disappear out the game in the next two years or take a chance at Brighton were you could end up playing first team football, some people are clueless and I would put you in that bracket,
What the moaners are completely missing is that under academy rules, there are travel time restrictions on where clubs can sign up Academy players from from. So as well as being a magnificent facility for the senior pros, it's also a bedrock for the club's long term future to harness and retain, local talent.
Sometimes you have to see further than the end of your nose...
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kipper12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?[/p][/quote]ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA[/p][/quote]I'm sure it is superb and so it should be for 30 million! Does it have a player cloning device and a zero gravity facility for astronauts? Problem is, you can build a state of the art 30 million pound stable, but if you put a donkey in it, no matter what you train it it will still be a donkey when it comes back out. As I said, for the type of players we have or are likely to have, it won't really be that much use.[/p][/quote]Too true,even for the youth,if the lad is good the big clubs will want him. Spurs Arsenal Chelsea etc,and who do you think the kid, mummy and daddy will want him to sign for.[/p][/quote]Shall we ask George Cole parents that question do you want to stay at Chelsea and probably disappear out the game in the next two years or take a chance at Brighton were you could end up playing first team football, some people are clueless and I would put you in that bracket,[/p][/quote]What the moaners are completely missing is that under academy rules, there are travel time restrictions on where clubs can sign up Academy players from from. So as well as being a magnificent facility for the senior pros, it's also a bedrock for the club's long term future to harness and retain, local talent. Sometimes you have to see further than the end of your nose... Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 1

11:50am Thu 26 Jun 14

Claude Back says...

kipper12 wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?
ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA
Yes, it is. I've been there too.
[quote][p][bold]kipper12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?[/p][/quote]ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA[/p][/quote]Yes, it is. I've been there too. Claude Back
  • Score: 1

11:53am Thu 26 Jun 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

AlfieT wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
kipper12 wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?
ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA
I'm sure it is superb and so it should be for 30 million! Does it have a player cloning device and a zero gravity facility for astronauts? Problem is, you can build a state of the art 30 million pound stable, but if you put a donkey in it, no matter what you train it it will still be a donkey when it comes back out. As I said, for the type of players we have or are likely to have, it won't really be that much use.
Too true,even for the youth,if the lad is good the big clubs will want him.

Spurs Arsenal Chelsea etc,and who do you think the kid, mummy and daddy will want him to sign for.
Shall we ask George Cole parents that question do you want to stay at Chelsea and probably disappear out the game in the next two years or take a chance at Brighton were you could end up playing first team football, some people are clueless and I would put you in that bracket,
Save your breath Jeff, these two are not fans, just very jealous of the Brighton revolution. Whatever any true supporter posts on here will be slated by these wums.
Think we are more realistic,not living in cuckoo land.

So Cole who has been with Chelsea since he was 11 now 18 would disappear out of the game ???.

Of course he wants to take a chance with another club.

AIS what in heavens name do you mean by jealous and slated.

If the post is ok no problem but if I don't agree sorry.

Do take a bit of offence with your insults but then you are A real albion fan behind the scences as long as everything is going wel.
[quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kipper12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?[/p][/quote]ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA[/p][/quote]I'm sure it is superb and so it should be for 30 million! Does it have a player cloning device and a zero gravity facility for astronauts? Problem is, you can build a state of the art 30 million pound stable, but if you put a donkey in it, no matter what you train it it will still be a donkey when it comes back out. As I said, for the type of players we have or are likely to have, it won't really be that much use.[/p][/quote]Too true,even for the youth,if the lad is good the big clubs will want him. Spurs Arsenal Chelsea etc,and who do you think the kid, mummy and daddy will want him to sign for.[/p][/quote]Shall we ask George Cole parents that question do you want to stay at Chelsea and probably disappear out the game in the next two years or take a chance at Brighton were you could end up playing first team football, some people are clueless and I would put you in that bracket,[/p][/quote]Save your breath Jeff, these two are not fans, just very jealous of the Brighton revolution. Whatever any true supporter posts on here will be slated by these wums.[/p][/quote]Think we are more realistic,not living in cuckoo land. So Cole who has been with Chelsea since he was 11 now 18 would disappear out of the game ???. Of course he wants to take a chance with another club. AIS what in heavens name do you mean by jealous and slated. If the post is ok no problem but if I don't agree sorry. Do take a bit of offence with your insults but then you are A real albion fan behind the scences as long as everything is going wel. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 0

11:56am Thu 26 Jun 14

Claude Back says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
kipper12 wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?
ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA
I'm sure it is superb and so it should be for 30 million! Does it have a player cloning device and a zero gravity facility for astronauts? Problem is, you can build a state of the art 30 million pound stable, but if you put a donkey in it, no matter what you train it it will still be a donkey when it comes back out. As I said, for the type of players we have or are likely to have, it won't really be that much use.
That made me laugh for real.
Actually, although it hasn't got the sci-fi tech devices you mention, it does have a Sun reader development section where they just go through a chamber and receive a 50% increase in brain power. That's right...they emerge as half-wits.. ;-)
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kipper12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?[/p][/quote]ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA[/p][/quote]I'm sure it is superb and so it should be for 30 million! Does it have a player cloning device and a zero gravity facility for astronauts? Problem is, you can build a state of the art 30 million pound stable, but if you put a donkey in it, no matter what you train it it will still be a donkey when it comes back out. As I said, for the type of players we have or are likely to have, it won't really be that much use.[/p][/quote]That made me laugh for real. Actually, although it hasn't got the sci-fi tech devices you mention, it does have a Sun reader development section where they just go through a chamber and receive a 50% increase in brain power. That's right...they emerge as half-wits.. ;-) Claude Back
  • Score: 4

11:57am Thu 26 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs says...

don't wanna do it like that wrote:
AlfieT wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
kipper12 wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?
ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA
I'm sure it is superb and so it should be for 30 million! Does it have a player cloning device and a zero gravity facility for astronauts? Problem is, you can build a state of the art 30 million pound stable, but if you put a donkey in it, no matter what you train it it will still be a donkey when it comes back out. As I said, for the type of players we have or are likely to have, it won't really be that much use.
Too true,even for the youth,if the lad is good the big clubs will want him.

Spurs Arsenal Chelsea etc,and who do you think the kid, mummy and daddy will want him to sign for.
Shall we ask George Cole parents that question do you want to stay at Chelsea and probably disappear out the game in the next two years or take a chance at Brighton were you could end up playing first team football, some people are clueless and I would put you in that bracket,
Save your breath Jeff, these two are not fans, just very jealous of the Brighton revolution. Whatever any true supporter posts on here will be slated by these wums.
Think we are more realistic,not living in cuckoo land.

So Cole who has been with Chelsea since he was 11 now 18 would disappear out of the game ???.

Of course he wants to take a chance with another club.

AIS what in heavens name do you mean by jealous and slated.

If the post is ok no problem but if I don't agree sorry.

Do take a bit of offence with your insults but then you are A real albion fan behind the scences as long as everything is going wel.
DWDILT;
You might want to re-think who were aiming your comments at. The post which included the words 'jealous' and ' slated', was not mine.
Thanks.
[quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kipper12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?[/p][/quote]ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA[/p][/quote]I'm sure it is superb and so it should be for 30 million! Does it have a player cloning device and a zero gravity facility for astronauts? Problem is, you can build a state of the art 30 million pound stable, but if you put a donkey in it, no matter what you train it it will still be a donkey when it comes back out. As I said, for the type of players we have or are likely to have, it won't really be that much use.[/p][/quote]Too true,even for the youth,if the lad is good the big clubs will want him. Spurs Arsenal Chelsea etc,and who do you think the kid, mummy and daddy will want him to sign for.[/p][/quote]Shall we ask George Cole parents that question do you want to stay at Chelsea and probably disappear out the game in the next two years or take a chance at Brighton were you could end up playing first team football, some people are clueless and I would put you in that bracket,[/p][/quote]Save your breath Jeff, these two are not fans, just very jealous of the Brighton revolution. Whatever any true supporter posts on here will be slated by these wums.[/p][/quote]Think we are more realistic,not living in cuckoo land. So Cole who has been with Chelsea since he was 11 now 18 would disappear out of the game ???. Of course he wants to take a chance with another club. AIS what in heavens name do you mean by jealous and slated. If the post is ok no problem but if I don't agree sorry. Do take a bit of offence with your insults but then you are A real albion fan behind the scences as long as everything is going wel.[/p][/quote]DWDILT; You might want to re-think who were aiming your comments at. The post which included the words 'jealous' and ' slated', was not mine. Thanks. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 0

12:08pm Thu 26 Jun 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
AlfieT wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
kipper12 wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?
ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA
I'm sure it is superb and so it should be for 30 million! Does it have a player cloning device and a zero gravity facility for astronauts? Problem is, you can build a state of the art 30 million pound stable, but if you put a donkey in it, no matter what you train it it will still be a donkey when it comes back out. As I said, for the type of players we have or are likely to have, it won't really be that much use.
Too true,even for the youth,if the lad is good the big clubs will want him.

Spurs Arsenal Chelsea etc,and who do you think the kid, mummy and daddy will want him to sign for.
Shall we ask George Cole parents that question do you want to stay at Chelsea and probably disappear out the game in the next two years or take a chance at Brighton were you could end up playing first team football, some people are clueless and I would put you in that bracket,
Save your breath Jeff, these two are not fans, just very jealous of the Brighton revolution. Whatever any true supporter posts on here will be slated by these wums.
Think we are more realistic,not living in cuckoo land.

So Cole who has been with Chelsea since he was 11 now 18 would disappear out of the game ???.

Of course he wants to take a chance with another club.

AIS what in heavens name do you mean by jealous and slated.

If the post is ok no problem but if I don't agree sorry.

Do take a bit of offence with your insults but then you are A real albion fan behind the scences as long as everything is going wel.
DWDILT;
You might want to re-think who were aiming your comments at. The post which included the words 'jealous' and ' slated', was not mine.
Thanks.
Sorry AIS my mistake.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kipper12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?[/p][/quote]ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA[/p][/quote]I'm sure it is superb and so it should be for 30 million! Does it have a player cloning device and a zero gravity facility for astronauts? Problem is, you can build a state of the art 30 million pound stable, but if you put a donkey in it, no matter what you train it it will still be a donkey when it comes back out. As I said, for the type of players we have or are likely to have, it won't really be that much use.[/p][/quote]Too true,even for the youth,if the lad is good the big clubs will want him. Spurs Arsenal Chelsea etc,and who do you think the kid, mummy and daddy will want him to sign for.[/p][/quote]Shall we ask George Cole parents that question do you want to stay at Chelsea and probably disappear out the game in the next two years or take a chance at Brighton were you could end up playing first team football, some people are clueless and I would put you in that bracket,[/p][/quote]Save your breath Jeff, these two are not fans, just very jealous of the Brighton revolution. Whatever any true supporter posts on here will be slated by these wums.[/p][/quote]Think we are more realistic,not living in cuckoo land. So Cole who has been with Chelsea since he was 11 now 18 would disappear out of the game ???. Of course he wants to take a chance with another club. AIS what in heavens name do you mean by jealous and slated. If the post is ok no problem but if I don't agree sorry. Do take a bit of offence with your insults but then you are A real albion fan behind the scences as long as everything is going wel.[/p][/quote]DWDILT; You might want to re-think who were aiming your comments at. The post which included the words 'jealous' and ' slated', was not mine. Thanks.[/p][/quote]Sorry AIS my mistake. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: -1

12:52pm Thu 26 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

People talk of who we might bring in to make our squad better but for me, the news of Crofts being fit to start the season is a massive plus. Life can be cruel sometimes and it certainly was for Crofts last season, injured at a time when you could argue he was showing his best form since putting on the stripes.

CMS is fully fit again, or at least we hope he is, and it's time for him to really have a good season. In some ways CMS has not delivered what his fee suggested he would, and I am not sure that this is all down to the player, he will be carrying a lot of weight on his shoulders this season, I just hope he can be the difference maker some of us think he can be.

Hyypia has made it clear that being young will not be a bar to grabbing a first team spot, if he is true to his word, Walton has the pre-season period to stake his claim for the keeper's jersey. According to Sami pre-season scores are of less importance than the performances acheived by the players, so this is the time for Walton to perform at his best and grab that jersey.

Final thought on the Ward situation. Yesterday we were all talking of the extra 3K a week Ward is asking for, did anyone consider the thought that perhaps we don't want to pay the 10K per week? The difference between what he wants and what we are offering could be as much as 5K a week.
People talk of who we might bring in to make our squad better but for me, the news of Crofts being fit to start the season is a massive plus. Life can be cruel sometimes and it certainly was for Crofts last season, injured at a time when you could argue he was showing his best form since putting on the stripes. CMS is fully fit again, or at least we hope he is, and it's time for him to really have a good season. In some ways CMS has not delivered what his fee suggested he would, and I am not sure that this is all down to the player, he will be carrying a lot of weight on his shoulders this season, I just hope he can be the difference maker some of us think he can be. Hyypia has made it clear that being young will not be a bar to grabbing a first team spot, if he is true to his word, Walton has the pre-season period to stake his claim for the keeper's jersey. According to Sami pre-season scores are of less importance than the performances acheived by the players, so this is the time for Walton to perform at his best and grab that jersey. Final thought on the Ward situation. Yesterday we were all talking of the extra 3K a week Ward is asking for, did anyone consider the thought that perhaps we don't want to pay the 10K per week? The difference between what he wants and what we are offering could be as much as 5K a week. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

1:30pm Thu 26 Jun 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
kipper12 wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?
ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA
I'm sure it is superb and so it should be for 30 million! Does it have a player cloning device and a zero gravity facility for astronauts? Problem is, you can build a state of the art 30 million pound stable, but if you put a donkey in it, no matter what you train it it will still be a donkey when it comes back out. As I said, for the type of players we have or are likely to have, it won't really be that much use.
Too true,even for the youth,if the lad is good the big clubs will want him.

Spurs Arsenal Chelsea etc,and who do you think the kid, mummy and daddy will want him to sign for.
Shall we ask George Cole parents that question do you want to stay at Chelsea and probably disappear out the game in the next two years or take a chance at Brighton were you could end up playing first team football, some people are clueless and I would put you in that bracket,
What the moaners are completely missing is that under academy rules, there are travel time restrictions on where clubs can sign up Academy players from from. So as well as being a magnificent facility for the senior pros, it's also a bedrock for the club's long term future to harness and retain, local talent.
Sometimes you have to see further than the end of your nose...
This part I hope AIS is correct the travel restrictions were-are 90 minutes.

Every heard of boarding school, PL teams have.

That Albion get 16-18 year olds ok but 95 % of these lads are being let go by their academies..

They might become a first team player but it is a gamble,what works for A might not work for B.

How many young lads have Albion let go and still play the game at a lower level.

Clarke Carlisle PFA see his docu on young players.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kipper12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?[/p][/quote]ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA[/p][/quote]I'm sure it is superb and so it should be for 30 million! Does it have a player cloning device and a zero gravity facility for astronauts? Problem is, you can build a state of the art 30 million pound stable, but if you put a donkey in it, no matter what you train it it will still be a donkey when it comes back out. As I said, for the type of players we have or are likely to have, it won't really be that much use.[/p][/quote]Too true,even for the youth,if the lad is good the big clubs will want him. Spurs Arsenal Chelsea etc,and who do you think the kid, mummy and daddy will want him to sign for.[/p][/quote]Shall we ask George Cole parents that question do you want to stay at Chelsea and probably disappear out the game in the next two years or take a chance at Brighton were you could end up playing first team football, some people are clueless and I would put you in that bracket,[/p][/quote]What the moaners are completely missing is that under academy rules, there are travel time restrictions on where clubs can sign up Academy players from from. So as well as being a magnificent facility for the senior pros, it's also a bedrock for the club's long term future to harness and retain, local talent. Sometimes you have to see further than the end of your nose...[/p][/quote]This part I hope AIS is correct the travel restrictions were-are 90 minutes. Every heard of boarding school, PL teams have. That Albion get 16-18 year olds ok but 95 % of these lads are being let go by their academies.. They might become a first team player but it is a gamble,what works for A might not work for B. How many young lads have Albion let go and still play the game at a lower level. Clarke Carlisle PFA see his docu on young players. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 1

1:32pm Thu 26 Jun 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
kipper12 wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?
ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA
I'm sure it is superb and so it should be for 30 million! Does it have a player cloning device and a zero gravity facility for astronauts? Problem is, you can build a state of the art 30 million pound stable, but if you put a donkey in it, no matter what you train it it will still be a donkey when it comes back out. As I said, for the type of players we have or are likely to have, it won't really be that much use.
Too true,even for the youth,if the lad is good the big clubs will want him.

Spurs Arsenal Chelsea etc,and who do you think the kid, mummy and daddy will want him to sign for.
Shall we ask George Cole parents that question do you want to stay at Chelsea and probably disappear out the game in the next two years or take a chance at Brighton were you could end up playing first team football, some people are clueless and I would put you in that bracket,
What the moaners are completely missing is that under academy rules, there are travel time restrictions on where clubs can sign up Academy players from from. So as well as being a magnificent facility for the senior pros, it's also a bedrock for the club's long term future to harness and retain, local talent.
Sometimes you have to see further than the end of your nose...
This part I hope AIS is correct the travel restrictions were-are 90 minutes.

Every heard of boarding school, PL teams have.

That Albion get 16-18 year olds ok but 95 % of these lads are being let go by their academies..

They might become a first team player but it is a gamble,what works for A might not work for B.

How many young lads have Albion let go and still play the game at a lower level.

Clarke Carlisle PFA see his docu on young players.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kipper12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?[/p][/quote]ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA[/p][/quote]I'm sure it is superb and so it should be for 30 million! Does it have a player cloning device and a zero gravity facility for astronauts? Problem is, you can build a state of the art 30 million pound stable, but if you put a donkey in it, no matter what you train it it will still be a donkey when it comes back out. As I said, for the type of players we have or are likely to have, it won't really be that much use.[/p][/quote]Too true,even for the youth,if the lad is good the big clubs will want him. Spurs Arsenal Chelsea etc,and who do you think the kid, mummy and daddy will want him to sign for.[/p][/quote]Shall we ask George Cole parents that question do you want to stay at Chelsea and probably disappear out the game in the next two years or take a chance at Brighton were you could end up playing first team football, some people are clueless and I would put you in that bracket,[/p][/quote]What the moaners are completely missing is that under academy rules, there are travel time restrictions on where clubs can sign up Academy players from from. So as well as being a magnificent facility for the senior pros, it's also a bedrock for the club's long term future to harness and retain, local talent. Sometimes you have to see further than the end of your nose...[/p][/quote]This part I hope AIS is correct the travel restrictions were-are 90 minutes. Every heard of boarding school, PL teams have. That Albion get 16-18 year olds ok but 95 % of these lads are being let go by their academies.. They might become a first team player but it is a gamble,what works for A might not work for B. How many young lads have Albion let go and still play the game at a lower level. Clarke Carlisle PFA see his docu on young players. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 0

1:43pm Thu 26 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

It's true to say that on the whole we have picked up young lads from other teams, but that was before we had our new academy, from now on we will be looking to be the, 'first,' club a lad tries out for. There will be dozens and dozens of kids going in and out of the academy doors, lads that have had zero connection to any club, other than their local neighborhood or school team.
It's true to say that on the whole we have picked up young lads from other teams, but that was before we had our new academy, from now on we will be looking to be the, 'first,' club a lad tries out for. There will be dozens and dozens of kids going in and out of the academy doors, lads that have had zero connection to any club, other than their local neighborhood or school team. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

1:57pm Thu 26 Jun 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
It's true to say that on the whole we have picked up young lads from other teams, but that was before we had our new academy, from now on we will be looking to be the, 'first,' club a lad tries out for. There will be dozens and dozens of kids going in and out of the academy doors, lads that have had zero connection to any club, other than their local neighborhood or school team.
Agree VS ,but i have before if the young lad is that good other teamswill have spotted him and who do you think is going to win,there will be dozens of promising young players hope Mummy and daddy are Albion supporters.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: It's true to say that on the whole we have picked up young lads from other teams, but that was before we had our new academy, from now on we will be looking to be the, 'first,' club a lad tries out for. There will be dozens and dozens of kids going in and out of the academy doors, lads that have had zero connection to any club, other than their local neighborhood or school team.[/p][/quote]Agree VS ,but i have before if the young lad is that good other teamswill have spotted him and who do you think is going to win,there will be dozens of promising young players hope Mummy and daddy are Albion supporters. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 2

2:20pm Thu 26 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

don't wanna do it like that wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
It's true to say that on the whole we have picked up young lads from other teams, but that was before we had our new academy, from now on we will be looking to be the, 'first,' club a lad tries out for. There will be dozens and dozens of kids going in and out of the academy doors, lads that have had zero connection to any club, other than their local neighborhood or school team.
Agree VS ,but i have before if the young lad is that good other teamswill have spotted him and who do you think is going to win,there will be dozens of promising young players hope Mummy and daddy are Albion supporters.
surely the question is, do we have the network of scouts to unearth these lads, a network to match those of the bigger clubs?
The answer to that questions is probably no, but it doesn't have to stay that way, and we shouldn't forget that now we have a world class facility, we might be sought out rather than having to be constantly looking.

It will be interesting to see if the club appoint a supremo to run the academy, a person that will upgrade how we do things related to finding these lads.
[quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: It's true to say that on the whole we have picked up young lads from other teams, but that was before we had our new academy, from now on we will be looking to be the, 'first,' club a lad tries out for. There will be dozens and dozens of kids going in and out of the academy doors, lads that have had zero connection to any club, other than their local neighborhood or school team.[/p][/quote]Agree VS ,but i have before if the young lad is that good other teamswill have spotted him and who do you think is going to win,there will be dozens of promising young players hope Mummy and daddy are Albion supporters.[/p][/quote]surely the question is, do we have the network of scouts to unearth these lads, a network to match those of the bigger clubs? The answer to that questions is probably no, but it doesn't have to stay that way, and we shouldn't forget that now we have a world class facility, we might be sought out rather than having to be constantly looking. It will be interesting to see if the club appoint a supremo to run the academy, a person that will upgrade how we do things related to finding these lads. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

2:54pm Thu 26 Jun 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
It's true to say that on the whole we have picked up young lads from other teams, but that was before we had our new academy, from now on we will be looking to be the, 'first,' club a lad tries out for. There will be dozens and dozens of kids going in and out of the academy doors, lads that have had zero connection to any club, other than their local neighborhood or school team.
Agree VS ,but i have before if the young lad is that good other teamswill have spotted him and who do you think is going to win,there will be dozens of promising young players hope Mummy and daddy are Albion supporters.
surely the question is, do we have the network of scouts to unearth these lads, a network to match those of the bigger clubs?
The answer to that questions is probably no, but it doesn't have to stay that way, and we shouldn't forget that now we have a world class facility, we might be sought out rather than having to be constantly looking.

It will be interesting to see if the club appoint a supremo to run the academy, a person that will upgrade how we do things related to finding these lads.
Vegas you have given your staff the day off,signed Klinsmanns note so they can watch the USA game(Daily Mail)

Albion now need top class coaches otherwise its a waste of time and money.

These will not come cheap and it has to be for the longrun.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: It's true to say that on the whole we have picked up young lads from other teams, but that was before we had our new academy, from now on we will be looking to be the, 'first,' club a lad tries out for. There will be dozens and dozens of kids going in and out of the academy doors, lads that have had zero connection to any club, other than their local neighborhood or school team.[/p][/quote]Agree VS ,but i have before if the young lad is that good other teamswill have spotted him and who do you think is going to win,there will be dozens of promising young players hope Mummy and daddy are Albion supporters.[/p][/quote]surely the question is, do we have the network of scouts to unearth these lads, a network to match those of the bigger clubs? The answer to that questions is probably no, but it doesn't have to stay that way, and we shouldn't forget that now we have a world class facility, we might be sought out rather than having to be constantly looking. It will be interesting to see if the club appoint a supremo to run the academy, a person that will upgrade how we do things related to finding these lads.[/p][/quote]Vegas you have given your staff the day off,signed Klinsmanns note so they can watch the USA game(Daily Mail) Albion now need top class coaches otherwise its a waste of time and money. These will not come cheap and it has to be for the longrun. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 1

6:02pm Thu 26 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

don't wanna do it like that wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
It's true to say that on the whole we have picked up young lads from other teams, but that was before we had our new academy, from now on we will be looking to be the, 'first,' club a lad tries out for. There will be dozens and dozens of kids going in and out of the academy doors, lads that have had zero connection to any club, other than their local neighborhood or school team.
Agree VS ,but i have before if the young lad is that good other teamswill have spotted him and who do you think is going to win,there will be dozens of promising young players hope Mummy and daddy are Albion supporters.
surely the question is, do we have the network of scouts to unearth these lads, a network to match those of the bigger clubs?
The answer to that questions is probably no, but it doesn't have to stay that way, and we shouldn't forget that now we have a world class facility, we might be sought out rather than having to be constantly looking.

It will be interesting to see if the club appoint a supremo to run the academy, a person that will upgrade how we do things related to finding these lads.
Vegas you have given your staff the day off,signed Klinsmanns note so they can watch the USA game(Daily Mail)

Albion now need top class coaches otherwise its a waste of time and money.

These will not come cheap and it has to be for the longrun.
DW, it doesn't work like that for me, if a project is on we work, there are often gaps between projects, right now I am in a gap. Very rare that I will turn down a chance to work.
[quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: It's true to say that on the whole we have picked up young lads from other teams, but that was before we had our new academy, from now on we will be looking to be the, 'first,' club a lad tries out for. There will be dozens and dozens of kids going in and out of the academy doors, lads that have had zero connection to any club, other than their local neighborhood or school team.[/p][/quote]Agree VS ,but i have before if the young lad is that good other teamswill have spotted him and who do you think is going to win,there will be dozens of promising young players hope Mummy and daddy are Albion supporters.[/p][/quote]surely the question is, do we have the network of scouts to unearth these lads, a network to match those of the bigger clubs? The answer to that questions is probably no, but it doesn't have to stay that way, and we shouldn't forget that now we have a world class facility, we might be sought out rather than having to be constantly looking. It will be interesting to see if the club appoint a supremo to run the academy, a person that will upgrade how we do things related to finding these lads.[/p][/quote]Vegas you have given your staff the day off,signed Klinsmanns note so they can watch the USA game(Daily Mail) Albion now need top class coaches otherwise its a waste of time and money. These will not come cheap and it has to be for the longrun.[/p][/quote]DW, it doesn't work like that for me, if a project is on we work, there are often gaps between projects, right now I am in a gap. Very rare that I will turn down a chance to work. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

8:14pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Jules boy says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
Good luck Andrew. Looking forward to getting you back but don't rush it.
On another thread does anyone know if there is a viewing area at the new complex to watch our heroes going through their paces?
haven't you got anything better to do?
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: Good luck Andrew. Looking forward to getting you back but don't rush it. On another thread does anyone know if there is a viewing area at the new complex to watch our heroes going through their paces?[/p][/quote]haven't you got anything better to do? Jules boy
  • Score: -1

6:11am Fri 27 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs says...

don't wanna do it like that wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
kipper12 wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?
ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA
I'm sure it is superb and so it should be for 30 million! Does it have a player cloning device and a zero gravity facility for astronauts? Problem is, you can build a state of the art 30 million pound stable, but if you put a donkey in it, no matter what you train it it will still be a donkey when it comes back out. As I said, for the type of players we have or are likely to have, it won't really be that much use.
Too true,even for the youth,if the lad is good the big clubs will want him.

Spurs Arsenal Chelsea etc,and who do you think the kid, mummy and daddy will want him to sign for.
Shall we ask George Cole parents that question do you want to stay at Chelsea and probably disappear out the game in the next two years or take a chance at Brighton were you could end up playing first team football, some people are clueless and I would put you in that bracket,
What the moaners are completely missing is that under academy rules, there are travel time restrictions on where clubs can sign up Academy players from from. So as well as being a magnificent facility for the senior pros, it's also a bedrock for the club's long term future to harness and retain, local talent.
Sometimes you have to see further than the end of your nose...
This part I hope AIS is correct the travel restrictions were-are 90 minutes.

Every heard of boarding school, PL teams have.

That Albion get 16-18 year olds ok but 95 % of these lads are being let go by their academies..

They might become a first team player but it is a gamble,what works for A might not work for B.

How many young lads have Albion let go and still play the game at a lower level.

Clarke Carlisle PFA see his docu on young players.
Erm, I'm afraid you've completely lost me on most of your comments here.
What's your point on boarding schools?
The whole essence of Academies is you get kids in from around the age of 9 and if they're good enough in their age group, the progress year-on-year. It's not just for 16-18 year olds.
I'm assuming your figure of 95% being let go is an assumption, but you're correct in that wastage is very high, but again, i'm not sure what you're trying to say with that?
If you want to call the Academy process a 'gamble' then ok and also the general principle of works for A might not work for B, is accepted, but again what's your point?
And as to how many Albion kids are playing at a lower level? Answer: I don't know but (sorry to be boring) what's your point?
[quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kipper12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: The training base must be incredible if it has cost 30 million, makes you wonder what kind of thing goes on in there, but if the squad is short of quality players in the first place will it really be that much use?[/p][/quote]ive been in the new training ground and believe me it superb. no half measures and everything thought of......... if this facility is anything to go by it is obvious that the club are very ambitious and are gearing up for the premiership !! IT IS SUPERB !! UTA[/p][/quote]I'm sure it is superb and so it should be for 30 million! Does it have a player cloning device and a zero gravity facility for astronauts? Problem is, you can build a state of the art 30 million pound stable, but if you put a donkey in it, no matter what you train it it will still be a donkey when it comes back out. As I said, for the type of players we have or are likely to have, it won't really be that much use.[/p][/quote]Too true,even for the youth,if the lad is good the big clubs will want him. Spurs Arsenal Chelsea etc,and who do you think the kid, mummy and daddy will want him to sign for.[/p][/quote]Shall we ask George Cole parents that question do you want to stay at Chelsea and probably disappear out the game in the next two years or take a chance at Brighton were you could end up playing first team football, some people are clueless and I would put you in that bracket,[/p][/quote]What the moaners are completely missing is that under academy rules, there are travel time restrictions on where clubs can sign up Academy players from from. So as well as being a magnificent facility for the senior pros, it's also a bedrock for the club's long term future to harness and retain, local talent. Sometimes you have to see further than the end of your nose...[/p][/quote]This part I hope AIS is correct the travel restrictions were-are 90 minutes. Every heard of boarding school, PL teams have. That Albion get 16-18 year olds ok but 95 % of these lads are being let go by their academies.. They might become a first team player but it is a gamble,what works for A might not work for B. How many young lads have Albion let go and still play the game at a lower level. Clarke Carlisle PFA see his docu on young players.[/p][/quote]Erm, I'm afraid you've completely lost me on most of your comments here. What's your point on boarding schools? The whole essence of Academies is you get kids in from around the age of 9 and if they're good enough in their age group, the progress year-on-year. It's not just for 16-18 year olds. I'm assuming your figure of 95% being let go is an assumption, but you're correct in that wastage is very high, but again, i'm not sure what you're trying to say with that? If you want to call the Academy process a 'gamble' then ok and also the general principle of works for A might not work for B, is accepted, but again what's your point? And as to how many Albion kids are playing at a lower level? Answer: I don't know but (sorry to be boring) what's your point? Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 2

2:19am Sat 28 Jun 14

Captain Haddock says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
Joel'sGrandad wrote:
Good luck Andrew. Looking forward to getting you back but don't rush it.
On another thread does anyone know if there is a viewing area at the new complex to watch our heroes going through their paces?
I believe not. No tours or other such stuff either.
Haha! 4 thumbs down for imparting a small bit of info in response to a question. There are some cowardly little keyboard nobodies about! Thanks in advance for the additional thumbs down.
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: Good luck Andrew. Looking forward to getting you back but don't rush it. On another thread does anyone know if there is a viewing area at the new complex to watch our heroes going through their paces?[/p][/quote]I believe not. No tours or other such stuff either.[/p][/quote]Haha! 4 thumbs down for imparting a small bit of info in response to a question. There are some cowardly little keyboard nobodies about! Thanks in advance for the additional thumbs down. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 0
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