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Westwood is Albion target

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Albion are interested in making Keiren Westwood their new No. 1.

But the Republic of Ireland international would have to accept a big drop in wages for the Seagulls to land him.

They have also enquired about taking Stoke keeper Jack Butland on a season-long loan.

New boss Sami Hyypia needs a replacement for Tomasz Kuszczak, who was released at the end of last season.

Westwood is one of the top candidates identified by the Seagulls’ scouting team, The Argus understands.

The 29-year-old is a free agent after becoming surplus to requirements for former Albion boss Gus Poyet at Sunderland.

Westwood joined the Black Cats from Coventry three years ago on a £30,000-a-week contract.

Simon Mignolet’s move to Liverpool meant Westwood started last season as first choice at the Stadium of Light under Paolo Di Canio.

He suffered a season-ending shoulder injury in November and Vito Mannone established himself as No. 1 under Poyet in his absence.

Poyet let the former Carlisle shot-stopper go at the end of last season after just 24 appearances for the North-East giants, the first of them against Albion at the Amex in the League Cup in August 2011.

Manchester-born Westwood has been linked with a return to City, his schoolboy club, as cover for Joe Hart following Costel Pantilimon’s switch to Sunderland.

England under-21 keeper Butland has already been loaned out to former club Birmingham, Barnsley and Leeds during his time at Stoke, as they have Asmir Begovic as No. 1 with the experienced Thomas Sorensen for cover.

Europa League champions Sevilla are also reportedly interested in borrowing Butland.

Meanwhile, Leyton Orient winger Moses Odubajo, who was on Albion’s radar, has completed a £1 million move to Championship newcomers Brentford.

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6:41am Sat 28 Jun 14

albionfan33 says...

either butland or westwood would in my opinion be a step up from tk and would show real intent on our part to make another top 6 challenge
either butland or westwood would in my opinion be a step up from tk and would show real intent on our part to make another top 6 challenge albionfan33
  • Score: 16

6:54am Sat 28 Jun 14

Beale32 says...

What about credit for saying about Westwood yesterday Ringtone? Will you give me that one?

Westwood would be a great addition to the squad. I can't really see him getting big money anywhere, unless one of the promoted teams to the EPL go for him. They all have pretty decent goalies already so it would be a choice to warm the bench or come to us for less wages and play.
What about credit for saying about Westwood yesterday Ringtone? Will you give me that one? Westwood would be a great addition to the squad. I can't really see him getting big money anywhere, unless one of the promoted teams to the EPL go for him. They all have pretty decent goalies already so it would be a choice to warm the bench or come to us for less wages and play. Beale32
  • Score: 4

7:12am Sat 28 Jun 14

Merdalf the Wizard says...

Is it just me, or is there a connection between all the Albion players and management team getting back from their hols and all these announcements about players we're interested in?
On a serious note, either keeper suits me, combined with the new goalkeeping coach, can only be of benefit to young Walton.
Sammy Lee is well respected up here in the North West as a coach, but does anyone still remember the old terrace chant of 'he's fat, he's round etc etc
Brighton has it's own SAS now, onwards and upwards UTA
Is it just me, or is there a connection between all the Albion players and management team getting back from their hols and all these announcements about players we're interested in? On a serious note, either keeper suits me, combined with the new goalkeeping coach, can only be of benefit to young Walton. Sammy Lee is well respected up here in the North West as a coach, but does anyone still remember the old terrace chant of 'he's fat, he's round etc etc Brighton has it's own SAS now, onwards and upwards UTA Merdalf the Wizard
  • Score: 2

7:25am Sat 28 Jun 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

Hang on yesterday we were after butland, have we given up already? And look at little Brentford signing a player we should have signed for 1 million! Illustrates just how smaller clubs are out competing us for the best players, wouldn't be surprised if they now snap up Westwood from under our noses, they must have more to offer than us with wages, prospects etc, if we don't start offering more money we will struggle to sign anyone. It has felt for a while that Albion are fast becoming the last resort in the transfer merry go round.
Hang on yesterday we were after butland, have we given up already? And look at little Brentford signing a player we should have signed for 1 million! Illustrates just how smaller clubs are out competing us for the best players, wouldn't be surprised if they now snap up Westwood from under our noses, they must have more to offer than us with wages, prospects etc, if we don't start offering more money we will struggle to sign anyone. It has felt for a while that Albion are fast becoming the last resort in the transfer merry go round. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -32

7:32am Sat 28 Jun 14

Merdalf the Wizard says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Hang on yesterday we were after butland, have we given up already? And look at little Brentford signing a player we should have signed for 1 million! Illustrates just how smaller clubs are out competing us for the best players, wouldn't be surprised if they now snap up Westwood from under our noses, they must have more to offer than us with wages, prospects etc, if we don't start offering more money we will struggle to sign anyone. It has felt for a while that Albion are fast becoming the last resort in the transfer merry go round.
Every silver lining has it's cloud eh Minefield?
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Hang on yesterday we were after butland, have we given up already? And look at little Brentford signing a player we should have signed for 1 million! Illustrates just how smaller clubs are out competing us for the best players, wouldn't be surprised if they now snap up Westwood from under our noses, they must have more to offer than us with wages, prospects etc, if we don't start offering more money we will struggle to sign anyone. It has felt for a while that Albion are fast becoming the last resort in the transfer merry go round.[/p][/quote]Every silver lining has it's cloud eh Minefield? Merdalf the Wizard
  • Score: 11

7:41am Sat 28 Jun 14

farside says...

Initially assumed TK being released was about his wages but if these two are targets it looks likely that there were issues with TK's attitude or some such.
Initially assumed TK being released was about his wages but if these two are targets it looks likely that there were issues with TK's attitude or some such. farside
  • Score: 11

8:17am Sat 28 Jun 14

mark by the sea says...

Hmmm if he is on 30k now? Unless we come up with half that I can't see him moving south, again just shows how much wages are being paid in premier league, Westwood is a good keeper , but in the lower half league of the premiership.. I can only assume keepers at the top 7-8 clubs are on 40-50k pw.
I honestly think FFP will have to change in some ways, or we will have a top 6-8 clubs with parachute payments basically in a mid division battling for promotion.
I would also like to see clubs who have flouted FFP who get relegated in the future should be banned from promotion for 3 years or repay the amount they over spent, QPR have done exactly what they have wanted to do, and punishment will be pathetic
Hmmm if he is on 30k now? Unless we come up with half that I can't see him moving south, again just shows how much wages are being paid in premier league, Westwood is a good keeper , but in the lower half league of the premiership.. I can only assume keepers at the top 7-8 clubs are on 40-50k pw. I honestly think FFP will have to change in some ways, or we will have a top 6-8 clubs with parachute payments basically in a mid division battling for promotion. I would also like to see clubs who have flouted FFP who get relegated in the future should be banned from promotion for 3 years or repay the amount they over spent, QPR have done exactly what they have wanted to do, and punishment will be pathetic mark by the sea
  • Score: 11

8:47am Sat 28 Jun 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Hmmm if he is on 30k now? Unless we come up with half that I can't see him moving south, again just shows how much wages are being paid in premier league, Westwood is a good keeper , but in the lower half league of the premiership.. I can only assume keepers at the top 7-8 clubs are on 40-50k pw.
I honestly think FFP will have to change in some ways, or we will have a top 6-8 clubs with parachute payments basically in a mid division battling for promotion.
I would also like to see clubs who have flouted FFP who get relegated in the future should be banned from promotion for 3 years or repay the amount they over spent, QPR have done exactly what they have wanted to do, and punishment will be pathetic
Thoroughly agree with all these points, the bottom line is more money needs to be made available if we are to progress.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Hmmm if he is on 30k now? Unless we come up with half that I can't see him moving south, again just shows how much wages are being paid in premier league, Westwood is a good keeper , but in the lower half league of the premiership.. I can only assume keepers at the top 7-8 clubs are on 40-50k pw. I honestly think FFP will have to change in some ways, or we will have a top 6-8 clubs with parachute payments basically in a mid division battling for promotion. I would also like to see clubs who have flouted FFP who get relegated in the future should be banned from promotion for 3 years or repay the amount they over spent, QPR have done exactly what they have wanted to do, and punishment will be pathetic[/p][/quote]Thoroughly agree with all these points, the bottom line is more money needs to be made available if we are to progress. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -8

8:58am Sat 28 Jun 14

dave from bexill says...

Merdalf the Wizard wrote:
Is it just me, or is there a connection between all the Albion players and management team getting back from their hols and all these announcements about players we're interested in?
On a serious note, either keeper suits me, combined with the new goalkeeping coach, can only be of benefit to young Walton.
Sammy Lee is well respected up here in the North West as a coach, but does anyone still remember the old terrace chant of 'he's fat, he's round etc etc
Brighton has it's own SAS now, onwards and upwards UTA
Excellent point regarding Walton in my view Merdalf
[quote][p][bold]Merdalf the Wizard[/bold] wrote: Is it just me, or is there a connection between all the Albion players and management team getting back from their hols and all these announcements about players we're interested in? On a serious note, either keeper suits me, combined with the new goalkeeping coach, can only be of benefit to young Walton. Sammy Lee is well respected up here in the North West as a coach, but does anyone still remember the old terrace chant of 'he's fat, he's round etc etc Brighton has it's own SAS now, onwards and upwards UTA[/p][/quote]Excellent point regarding Walton in my view Merdalf dave from bexill
  • Score: 5

9:06am Sat 28 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Merdalf the Wizard wrote:
Is it just me, or is there a connection between all the Albion players and management team getting back from their hols and all these announcements about players we're interested in?
On a serious note, either keeper suits me, combined with the new goalkeeping coach, can only be of benefit to young Walton.
Sammy Lee is well respected up here in the North West as a coach, but does anyone still remember the old terrace chant of 'he's fat, he's round etc etc
Brighton has it's own SAS now, onwards and upwards UTA
I think the increase in activity and rumour is because contracts run out at the end of this month. From memory, I seem to recall that the official start to a new season across the world, as defined by FIFA, is July 1st.
So until now, players coming up to the end of their contracts were still getting paid. Now that comes to an end, they'll start becoming more active, as will the clubs. As 'free' targets are either landed or lost, the positions that will require transfer fees to sort out becomes clearer.
Could be a fun couple of weeks.
[quote][p][bold]Merdalf the Wizard[/bold] wrote: Is it just me, or is there a connection between all the Albion players and management team getting back from their hols and all these announcements about players we're interested in? On a serious note, either keeper suits me, combined with the new goalkeeping coach, can only be of benefit to young Walton. Sammy Lee is well respected up here in the North West as a coach, but does anyone still remember the old terrace chant of 'he's fat, he's round etc etc Brighton has it's own SAS now, onwards and upwards UTA[/p][/quote]I think the increase in activity and rumour is because contracts run out at the end of this month. From memory, I seem to recall that the official start to a new season across the world, as defined by FIFA, is July 1st. So until now, players coming up to the end of their contracts were still getting paid. Now that comes to an end, they'll start becoming more active, as will the clubs. As 'free' targets are either landed or lost, the positions that will require transfer fees to sort out becomes clearer. Could be a fun couple of weeks. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 6

9:12am Sat 28 Jun 14

mikeygit says...

IMO wages are an issue and it proves how daft the wage structure is--if a Black Cats reject can demand 30k what chance do we have?? Yes i guess there will ow be a lot of activity---if it does not start now it never will! new training starting and season fast approaching. Sorry i must have missed something whilst I was away--has TK signed for a team??
IMO wages are an issue and it proves how daft the wage structure is--if a Black Cats reject can demand 30k what chance do we have?? Yes i guess there will ow be a lot of activity---if it does not start now it never will! new training starting and season fast approaching. Sorry i must have missed something whilst I was away--has TK signed for a team?? mikeygit
  • Score: -3

9:18am Sat 28 Jun 14

JeffLomer says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Hmmm if he is on 30k now? Unless we come up with half that I can't see him moving south, again just shows how much wages are being paid in premier league, Westwood is a good keeper , but in the lower half league of the premiership.. I can only assume keepers at the top 7-8 clubs are on 40-50k pw.
I honestly think FFP will have to change in some ways, or we will have a top 6-8 clubs with parachute payments basically in a mid division battling for promotion.
I would also like to see clubs who have flouted FFP who get relegated in the future should be banned from promotion for 3 years or repay the amount they over spent, QPR have done exactly what they have wanted to do, and punishment will be pathetic
Morning Mark,
QPR have done what they had to do to get back in to the premiership there obviously not to bothered about any punishment that might come there way, why would they with very rich owners, at least three billionaires on board there a fine would be pointless but lose 20 points for flouting it might make teams sit up and take more notice.
There were two teams in the top six who received parachute payments,
I hope your not right about a mid table group off teams battling it out for promotion, I can not understand why bottom three teams in premiership are getting rewarded for having a poor season to be relegated, then being told don't worry here is 60 million to ease the pain, until that stops lt will never be a even playing field,
Westwood be great but so would Walton or Butland, if Westwood wants first team football then most likely will have to take a pay cut, unless he would prefer to be a number two in the prem,
Up the Albion!!
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Hmmm if he is on 30k now? Unless we come up with half that I can't see him moving south, again just shows how much wages are being paid in premier league, Westwood is a good keeper , but in the lower half league of the premiership.. I can only assume keepers at the top 7-8 clubs are on 40-50k pw. I honestly think FFP will have to change in some ways, or we will have a top 6-8 clubs with parachute payments basically in a mid division battling for promotion. I would also like to see clubs who have flouted FFP who get relegated in the future should be banned from promotion for 3 years or repay the amount they over spent, QPR have done exactly what they have wanted to do, and punishment will be pathetic[/p][/quote]Morning Mark, QPR have done what they had to do to get back in to the premiership there obviously not to bothered about any punishment that might come there way, why would they with very rich owners, at least three billionaires on board there a fine would be pointless but lose 20 points for flouting it might make teams sit up and take more notice. There were two teams in the top six who received parachute payments, I hope your not right about a mid table group off teams battling it out for promotion, I can not understand why bottom three teams in premiership are getting rewarded for having a poor season to be relegated, then being told don't worry here is 60 million to ease the pain, until that stops lt will never be a even playing field, Westwood be great but so would Walton or Butland, if Westwood wants first team football then most likely will have to take a pay cut, unless he would prefer to be a number two in the prem, Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 5

9:20am Sat 28 Jun 14

rolivan says...

mikeygit wrote:
IMO wages are an issue and it proves how daft the wage structure is--if a Black Cats reject can demand 30k what chance do we have?? Yes i guess there will ow be a lot of activity---if it does not start now it never will! new training starting and season fast approaching. Sorry i must have missed something whilst I was away--has TK signed for a team??
That was 3 years ago things have changed since then clubs aren't carrying so many fringe players.
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: IMO wages are an issue and it proves how daft the wage structure is--if a Black Cats reject can demand 30k what chance do we have?? Yes i guess there will ow be a lot of activity---if it does not start now it never will! new training starting and season fast approaching. Sorry i must have missed something whilst I was away--has TK signed for a team??[/p][/quote]That was 3 years ago things have changed since then clubs aren't carrying so many fringe players. rolivan
  • Score: 2

9:26am Sat 28 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs says...

rolivan wrote:
mikeygit wrote:
IMO wages are an issue and it proves how daft the wage structure is--if a Black Cats reject can demand 30k what chance do we have?? Yes i guess there will ow be a lot of activity---if it does not start now it never will! new training starting and season fast approaching. Sorry i must have missed something whilst I was away--has TK signed for a team??
That was 3 years ago things have changed since then clubs aren't carrying so many fringe players.
Yep, there'll be a huge number of players enjoying contracts they were given several years ago, who'll know the end of the gravy train is a few days away.
On that basis, you'd want to sit tight and take the 30k a week you're due for as long as you're able before committing yourself elsewhere.
I know I would!!!
[quote][p][bold]rolivan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: IMO wages are an issue and it proves how daft the wage structure is--if a Black Cats reject can demand 30k what chance do we have?? Yes i guess there will ow be a lot of activity---if it does not start now it never will! new training starting and season fast approaching. Sorry i must have missed something whilst I was away--has TK signed for a team??[/p][/quote]That was 3 years ago things have changed since then clubs aren't carrying so many fringe players.[/p][/quote]Yep, there'll be a huge number of players enjoying contracts they were given several years ago, who'll know the end of the gravy train is a few days away. On that basis, you'd want to sit tight and take the 30k a week you're due for as long as you're able before committing yourself elsewhere. I know I would!!! Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 5

9:46am Sat 28 Jun 14

Max Ripple says...

There are a number of people alluding to TK's personal life at the Albion. Lots of us have probably heard rumours - and that's probably just what they are. But when people work closely in a tight knit environment, and when players, coaches, back room staff and their wives get together socially - sometimes things happen that might rock the boat, as it were. I think TK might have just wanted to get away from Brighton at all costs.
I wouldn't know if he is even still in the country let alone looking for a club here. Agree, he wasn't the very best keeper we've had and as I've said before, he did occasionally make a few bloopers but he did also pull off a great number of fabulous saves which left us all grateful for his presence.
There are a number of people alluding to TK's personal life at the Albion. Lots of us have probably heard rumours - and that's probably just what they are. But when people work closely in a tight knit environment, and when players, coaches, back room staff and their wives get together socially - sometimes things happen that might rock the boat, as it were. I think TK might have just wanted to get away from Brighton at all costs. I wouldn't know if he is even still in the country let alone looking for a club here. Agree, he wasn't the very best keeper we've had and as I've said before, he did occasionally make a few bloopers but he did also pull off a great number of fabulous saves which left us all grateful for his presence. Max Ripple
  • Score: 2

10:06am Sat 28 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Max Ripple wrote:
There are a number of people alluding to TK's personal life at the Albion. Lots of us have probably heard rumours - and that's probably just what they are. But when people work closely in a tight knit environment, and when players, coaches, back room staff and their wives get together socially - sometimes things happen that might rock the boat, as it were. I think TK might have just wanted to get away from Brighton at all costs.
I wouldn't know if he is even still in the country let alone looking for a club here. Agree, he wasn't the very best keeper we've had and as I've said before, he did occasionally make a few bloopers but he did also pull off a great number of fabulous saves which left us all grateful for his presence.
Sorry to be a bore, but in my opinion, a gratuitous resurrection of a wild rumour serves no purpose.
[quote][p][bold]Max Ripple[/bold] wrote: There are a number of people alluding to TK's personal life at the Albion. Lots of us have probably heard rumours - and that's probably just what they are. But when people work closely in a tight knit environment, and when players, coaches, back room staff and their wives get together socially - sometimes things happen that might rock the boat, as it were. I think TK might have just wanted to get away from Brighton at all costs. I wouldn't know if he is even still in the country let alone looking for a club here. Agree, he wasn't the very best keeper we've had and as I've said before, he did occasionally make a few bloopers but he did also pull off a great number of fabulous saves which left us all grateful for his presence.[/p][/quote]Sorry to be a bore, but in my opinion, a gratuitous resurrection of a wild rumour serves no purpose. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 6

10:14am Sat 28 Jun 14

To baldly go says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
rolivan wrote:
mikeygit wrote:
IMO wages are an issue and it proves how daft the wage structure is--if a Black Cats reject can demand 30k what chance do we have?? Yes i guess there will ow be a lot of activity---if it does not start now it never will! new training starting and season fast approaching. Sorry i must have missed something whilst I was away--has TK signed for a team??
That was 3 years ago things have changed since then clubs aren't carrying so many fringe players.
Yep, there'll be a huge number of players enjoying contracts they were given several years ago, who'll know the end of the gravy train is a few days away.
On that basis, you'd want to sit tight and take the 30k a week you're due for as long as you're able before committing yourself elsewhere.
I know I would!!!
Your last sentence sums up the Ward saga completely! Sit tight and take the money. Westwood has no contract, so slightly different, but will probably want more than we can offer imo, if no one wants him come the end of July we might be able to pick him up at our wage level.
It's great to see these names being touted around our club, but, it will be better when some of them are confirmed signings.
SH has not had a chance to see our players training yet, so the keepers position is probably the only one we could take a punt at without upsetting him.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rolivan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: IMO wages are an issue and it proves how daft the wage structure is--if a Black Cats reject can demand 30k what chance do we have?? Yes i guess there will ow be a lot of activity---if it does not start now it never will! new training starting and season fast approaching. Sorry i must have missed something whilst I was away--has TK signed for a team??[/p][/quote]That was 3 years ago things have changed since then clubs aren't carrying so many fringe players.[/p][/quote]Yep, there'll be a huge number of players enjoying contracts they were given several years ago, who'll know the end of the gravy train is a few days away. On that basis, you'd want to sit tight and take the 30k a week you're due for as long as you're able before committing yourself elsewhere. I know I would!!![/p][/quote]Your last sentence sums up the Ward saga completely! Sit tight and take the money. Westwood has no contract, so slightly different, but will probably want more than we can offer imo, if no one wants him come the end of July we might be able to pick him up at our wage level. It's great to see these names being touted around our club, but, it will be better when some of them are confirmed signings. SH has not had a chance to see our players training yet, so the keepers position is probably the only one we could take a punt at without upsetting him. To baldly go
  • Score: 2

10:32am Sat 28 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs says...

To baldly go wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
rolivan wrote:
mikeygit wrote:
IMO wages are an issue and it proves how daft the wage structure is--if a Black Cats reject can demand 30k what chance do we have?? Yes i guess there will ow be a lot of activity---if it does not start now it never will! new training starting and season fast approaching. Sorry i must have missed something whilst I was away--has TK signed for a team??
That was 3 years ago things have changed since then clubs aren't carrying so many fringe players.
Yep, there'll be a huge number of players enjoying contracts they were given several years ago, who'll know the end of the gravy train is a few days away.
On that basis, you'd want to sit tight and take the 30k a week you're due for as long as you're able before committing yourself elsewhere.
I know I would!!!
Your last sentence sums up the Ward saga completely! Sit tight and take the money. Westwood has no contract, so slightly different, but will probably want more than we can offer imo, if no one wants him come the end of July we might be able to pick him up at our wage level.
It's great to see these names being touted around our club, but, it will be better when some of them are confirmed signings.
SH has not had a chance to see our players training yet, so the keepers position is probably the only one we could take a punt at without upsetting him.
You're right that Ward has the 'luxury' of an ongoing deal so is in no hurry, but Westwood will have been in the same position until around now. Even though he's been 'released', Sunderland will have had to honour his contract through to it's end - hence the July 1st watershed. Same for us by the way, with those we let go, all of which is another reason why most clubs have been sitting tight. Let's say Westwood is our man, Albion wouldn't want to do the paperwork and have him AND Kuzczak on the wage bill at the same time.
The merry go round starts Tuesday!
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rolivan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: IMO wages are an issue and it proves how daft the wage structure is--if a Black Cats reject can demand 30k what chance do we have?? Yes i guess there will ow be a lot of activity---if it does not start now it never will! new training starting and season fast approaching. Sorry i must have missed something whilst I was away--has TK signed for a team??[/p][/quote]That was 3 years ago things have changed since then clubs aren't carrying so many fringe players.[/p][/quote]Yep, there'll be a huge number of players enjoying contracts they were given several years ago, who'll know the end of the gravy train is a few days away. On that basis, you'd want to sit tight and take the 30k a week you're due for as long as you're able before committing yourself elsewhere. I know I would!!![/p][/quote]Your last sentence sums up the Ward saga completely! Sit tight and take the money. Westwood has no contract, so slightly different, but will probably want more than we can offer imo, if no one wants him come the end of July we might be able to pick him up at our wage level. It's great to see these names being touted around our club, but, it will be better when some of them are confirmed signings. SH has not had a chance to see our players training yet, so the keepers position is probably the only one we could take a punt at without upsetting him.[/p][/quote]You're right that Ward has the 'luxury' of an ongoing deal so is in no hurry, but Westwood will have been in the same position until around now. Even though he's been 'released', Sunderland will have had to honour his contract through to it's end - hence the July 1st watershed. Same for us by the way, with those we let go, all of which is another reason why most clubs have been sitting tight. Let's say Westwood is our man, Albion wouldn't want to do the paperwork and have him AND Kuzczak on the wage bill at the same time. The merry go round starts Tuesday! Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 8

12:05pm Sat 28 Jun 14

fatso says...

Whilst it is correct that contracts end on 30th June players can sign a pre-contract up to 6 months before the end of their contract. Therefore there is no reason for us to wait until the 1st July to get a signature fromn any player. A pre-contract does not mean that we have to start pying them before 1st July.
Whilst it is correct that contracts end on 30th June players can sign a pre-contract up to 6 months before the end of their contract. Therefore there is no reason for us to wait until the 1st July to get a signature fromn any player. A pre-contract does not mean that we have to start pying them before 1st July. fatso
  • Score: 6

1:07pm Sat 28 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

Mayfield talks of us missing out to newly promoted Brentford in the signing of a player for one million, he suggests that they are offering better deals, I wonder, does he remember the money we spent when we got promoted.
Surviving the first year after promotion to the Champ Div may not be as difficult as surviving the first year in the Prem, but it aint no walk in the park either.

Westwood is looking for a new home, Butland is looking for regular matchtime, one has a regular income and the other, in a day or so, will have zero income. Say what you like about TK and his form over the last few matches for us, it doesn't change the fact that he is still a decent shot stopper, but he can't find a new home. Westwood might have been on 30K a week but unless a prem club steps in for him he aint gonna be on no 30K a week no matter where he goes, even those with parachute payments won't pick up that wage demand.

IMHO Westwood is the best option for us if only because we will have him on a two or three year contract, continuity counts. Butland might be good for a year but then we lose him and if we tried to keep him after a year long loan deal, he will cost north of 2 million, especially if he has a good season. I am not a fan of borrowing players, it's like renting a house rather than buying one, you spend your money but have nothing to show for it after your lease is up.
Mayfield talks of us missing out to newly promoted Brentford in the signing of a player for one million, he suggests that they are offering better deals, I wonder, does he remember the money we spent when we got promoted. Surviving the first year after promotion to the Champ Div may not be as difficult as surviving the first year in the Prem, but it aint no walk in the park either. Westwood is looking for a new home, Butland is looking for regular matchtime, one has a regular income and the other, in a day or so, will have zero income. Say what you like about TK and his form over the last few matches for us, it doesn't change the fact that he is still a decent shot stopper, but he can't find a new home. Westwood might have been on 30K a week but unless a prem club steps in for him he aint gonna be on no 30K a week no matter where he goes, even those with parachute payments won't pick up that wage demand. IMHO Westwood is the best option for us if only because we will have him on a two or three year contract, continuity counts. Butland might be good for a year but then we lose him and if we tried to keep him after a year long loan deal, he will cost north of 2 million, especially if he has a good season. I am not a fan of borrowing players, it's like renting a house rather than buying one, you spend your money but have nothing to show for it after your lease is up. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

1:44pm Sat 28 Jun 14

pjwilk says...

Would have to accept a big wage drop,no i dont think so.If we want him we will have to pay.End of story.
Would have to accept a big wage drop,no i dont think so.If we want him we will have to pay.End of story. pjwilk
  • Score: -6

1:44pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Going to blow my own trumpet here and state that I suggested Westwood about 4 weeks ago. But he'll have to lower his wage demand which makes it difficult. It makes sense to put himself in the shop window with some game time and who knows if he helps us get to the Promised Land.
I've supported the Albion for a long time now, but we seem to spend more time watching and waiting to see who we are signing than we do actually watching a game these days. In the good old days the first we'd hear of a new player was John Vinicombe on the back of the Argus. Happy Days. UTA
Going to blow my own trumpet here and state that I suggested Westwood about 4 weeks ago. But he'll have to lower his wage demand which makes it difficult. It makes sense to put himself in the shop window with some game time and who knows if he helps us get to the Promised Land. I've supported the Albion for a long time now, but we seem to spend more time watching and waiting to see who we are signing than we do actually watching a game these days. In the good old days the first we'd hear of a new player was John Vinicombe on the back of the Argus. Happy Days. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 1

3:07pm Sat 28 Jun 14

gordongull says...

JeffLomer wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Hmmm if he is on 30k now? Unless we come up with half that I can't see him moving south, again just shows how much wages are being paid in premier league, Westwood is a good keeper , but in the lower half league of the premiership.. I can only assume keepers at the top 7-8 clubs are on 40-50k pw.
I honestly think FFP will have to change in some ways, or we will have a top 6-8 clubs with parachute payments basically in a mid division battling for promotion.
I would also like to see clubs who have flouted FFP who get relegated in the future should be banned from promotion for 3 years or repay the amount they over spent, QPR have done exactly what they have wanted to do, and punishment will be pathetic
Morning Mark,
QPR have done what they had to do to get back in to the premiership there obviously not to bothered about any punishment that might come there way, why would they with very rich owners, at least three billionaires on board there a fine would be pointless but lose 20 points for flouting it might make teams sit up and take more notice.
There were two teams in the top six who received parachute payments,
I hope your not right about a mid table group off teams battling it out for promotion, I can not understand why bottom three teams in premiership are getting rewarded for having a poor season to be relegated, then being told don't worry here is 60 million to ease the pain, until that stops lt will never be a even playing field,
Westwood be great but so would Walton or Butland, if Westwood wants first team football then most likely will have to take a pay cut, unless he would prefer to be a number two in the prem,
Up the Albion!!
It is an interesting statistic that since the play-offs were introduced, only a quarter of relegated teams have bounced back at the first attempt.
Last season three sides on parachute money finished in the top six, (everyone forgets Burnley), but three more, (Blackpool, Bolton, and Brum), all struggled. B&HA is consistenly setting the pace when comparing League position to playing budget.

Westwood is not going to take a 66% hit on his wages except as a very last resort. If he still hasn't got a club on August 31st, we might get him for 10k a week.
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Hmmm if he is on 30k now? Unless we come up with half that I can't see him moving south, again just shows how much wages are being paid in premier league, Westwood is a good keeper , but in the lower half league of the premiership.. I can only assume keepers at the top 7-8 clubs are on 40-50k pw. I honestly think FFP will have to change in some ways, or we will have a top 6-8 clubs with parachute payments basically in a mid division battling for promotion. I would also like to see clubs who have flouted FFP who get relegated in the future should be banned from promotion for 3 years or repay the amount they over spent, QPR have done exactly what they have wanted to do, and punishment will be pathetic[/p][/quote]Morning Mark, QPR have done what they had to do to get back in to the premiership there obviously not to bothered about any punishment that might come there way, why would they with very rich owners, at least three billionaires on board there a fine would be pointless but lose 20 points for flouting it might make teams sit up and take more notice. There were two teams in the top six who received parachute payments, I hope your not right about a mid table group off teams battling it out for promotion, I can not understand why bottom three teams in premiership are getting rewarded for having a poor season to be relegated, then being told don't worry here is 60 million to ease the pain, until that stops lt will never be a even playing field, Westwood be great but so would Walton or Butland, if Westwood wants first team football then most likely will have to take a pay cut, unless he would prefer to be a number two in the prem, Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]It is an interesting statistic that since the play-offs were introduced, only a quarter of relegated teams have bounced back at the first attempt. Last season three sides on parachute money finished in the top six, (everyone forgets Burnley), but three more, (Blackpool, Bolton, and Brum), all struggled. B&HA is consistenly setting the pace when comparing League position to playing budget. Westwood is not going to take a 66% hit on his wages except as a very last resort. If he still hasn't got a club on August 31st, we might get him for 10k a week. gordongull
  • Score: 3

4:06pm Sat 28 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

gordongull wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Hmmm if he is on 30k now? Unless we come up with half that I can't see him moving south, again just shows how much wages are being paid in premier league, Westwood is a good keeper , but in the lower half league of the premiership.. I can only assume keepers at the top 7-8 clubs are on 40-50k pw.
I honestly think FFP will have to change in some ways, or we will have a top 6-8 clubs with parachute payments basically in a mid division battling for promotion.
I would also like to see clubs who have flouted FFP who get relegated in the future should be banned from promotion for 3 years or repay the amount they over spent, QPR have done exactly what they have wanted to do, and punishment will be pathetic
Morning Mark,
QPR have done what they had to do to get back in to the premiership there obviously not to bothered about any punishment that might come there way, why would they with very rich owners, at least three billionaires on board there a fine would be pointless but lose 20 points for flouting it might make teams sit up and take more notice.
There were two teams in the top six who received parachute payments,
I hope your not right about a mid table group off teams battling it out for promotion, I can not understand why bottom three teams in premiership are getting rewarded for having a poor season to be relegated, then being told don't worry here is 60 million to ease the pain, until that stops lt will never be a even playing field,
Westwood be great but so would Walton or Butland, if Westwood wants first team football then most likely will have to take a pay cut, unless he would prefer to be a number two in the prem,
Up the Albion!!
It is an interesting statistic that since the play-offs were introduced, only a quarter of relegated teams have bounced back at the first attempt.
Last season three sides on parachute money finished in the top six, (everyone forgets Burnley), but three more, (Blackpool, Bolton, and Brum), all struggled. B&HA is consistenly setting the pace when comparing League position to playing budget.

Westwood is not going to take a 66% hit on his wages except as a very last resort. If he still hasn't got a club on August 31st, we might get him for 10k a week.
His impending availability has been known for some time now, just as TK's has, several keepers have signed new deals with their clubs or have been bought or signed on a, 'free,' not too many big paying clubs left in the market. I think if either of these two want more than Champ Div wages they are going to have to look abroad, and even then they might struggle.
Countries that I see as emerging football areas, China, Australia, Japan and the USA, might have some takers for both of them, and would pay good money.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Hmmm if he is on 30k now? Unless we come up with half that I can't see him moving south, again just shows how much wages are being paid in premier league, Westwood is a good keeper , but in the lower half league of the premiership.. I can only assume keepers at the top 7-8 clubs are on 40-50k pw. I honestly think FFP will have to change in some ways, or we will have a top 6-8 clubs with parachute payments basically in a mid division battling for promotion. I would also like to see clubs who have flouted FFP who get relegated in the future should be banned from promotion for 3 years or repay the amount they over spent, QPR have done exactly what they have wanted to do, and punishment will be pathetic[/p][/quote]Morning Mark, QPR have done what they had to do to get back in to the premiership there obviously not to bothered about any punishment that might come there way, why would they with very rich owners, at least three billionaires on board there a fine would be pointless but lose 20 points for flouting it might make teams sit up and take more notice. There were two teams in the top six who received parachute payments, I hope your not right about a mid table group off teams battling it out for promotion, I can not understand why bottom three teams in premiership are getting rewarded for having a poor season to be relegated, then being told don't worry here is 60 million to ease the pain, until that stops lt will never be a even playing field, Westwood be great but so would Walton or Butland, if Westwood wants first team football then most likely will have to take a pay cut, unless he would prefer to be a number two in the prem, Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]It is an interesting statistic that since the play-offs were introduced, only a quarter of relegated teams have bounced back at the first attempt. Last season three sides on parachute money finished in the top six, (everyone forgets Burnley), but three more, (Blackpool, Bolton, and Brum), all struggled. B&HA is consistenly setting the pace when comparing League position to playing budget. Westwood is not going to take a 66% hit on his wages except as a very last resort. If he still hasn't got a club on August 31st, we might get him for 10k a week.[/p][/quote]His impending availability has been known for some time now, just as TK's has, several keepers have signed new deals with their clubs or have been bought or signed on a, 'free,' not too many big paying clubs left in the market. I think if either of these two want more than Champ Div wages they are going to have to look abroad, and even then they might struggle. Countries that I see as emerging football areas, China, Australia, Japan and the USA, might have some takers for both of them, and would pay good money. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 7

10:30pm Sat 28 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

Just read an article that suggests that Man City are looking at Westwood to fill their vacant number 2 spot. I would guess that even as a number 2 at City he would get closer to his 30K a week than we would pay him.
Just read an article that suggests that Man City are looking at Westwood to fill their vacant number 2 spot. I would guess that even as a number 2 at City he would get closer to his 30K a week than we would pay him. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 5

7:36am Sun 29 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs says...

fatso wrote:
Whilst it is correct that contracts end on 30th June players can sign a pre-contract up to 6 months before the end of their contract. Therefore there is no reason for us to wait until the 1st July to get a signature fromn any player. A pre-contract does not mean that we have to start pying them before 1st July.
It's a fair point, but that's looking at it purely from a club perspective. Signing a pre-contract obviously commits a player and most will hedge their bets until the last possible moment. It's not just about what the club wants which is why transfers take so much time to complete.
[quote][p][bold]fatso[/bold] wrote: Whilst it is correct that contracts end on 30th June players can sign a pre-contract up to 6 months before the end of their contract. Therefore there is no reason for us to wait until the 1st July to get a signature fromn any player. A pre-contract does not mean that we have to start pying them before 1st July.[/p][/quote]It's a fair point, but that's looking at it purely from a club perspective. Signing a pre-contract obviously commits a player and most will hedge their bets until the last possible moment. It's not just about what the club wants which is why transfers take so much time to complete. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 3

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