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Albion Euro scout makes exit

The Argus: Zigor Aranalde has left Albion Zigor Aranalde has left Albion

Albion have made another key change to their recruitment team by parting company with Zigor Aranalde.

Mervyn Day, head of scouting and recruitment, was made redundant at the end of last season.

Aranalde, the Seagulls' European scout, is also no longer working for the club, The Argus can reveal.

Aranalde joined Albion originally as chief scout in April 2010 when Gus Poyet was manager.

The former Walsall, Carlisle and Sheffield Wednesday left-back played a key role in some of Poyet's early signings, including Craig Noone's move from Plymouth Argyle.

Aranalde returned to his old club Albacete in Spain as assistant head coach in June 2011 for family reasons.

Albion re-appointed him as their Spanish-based European scout in September 2012 in the third tier of a revised structure, alongside domestic scout Darren Wrack, with subsequent arrival Day second in command and head of football David Burke in overall charge.

Day has just been named head of recruitment by Premier League West Brom.

Meanwhile, Albion have been linked with English-born Australian A-League midfielder Luke Brattan.

Reports from Down Under claim Brattan is to hold talks with the Seagulls over a move from Brisbane Roar.

Hull-born Brattan, 24, is under contract with Brisbane until the end of next season.

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5:06am Fri 4 Jul 14

twonk says...

Brisbane Roar? Are they an Australian team?
Brisbane Roar? Are they an Australian team? twonk
  • Score: -7

5:21am Fri 4 Jul 14

JPsseagulls says...

Is another relatively low scoring midfielder really what we need right now? Obviously I'm now against more depth but surely we should be spending money on GK/CB unless Walton and Ince are going to be used in those positions? I do trust the club however to make some decent signings over the next month and I'm sure we will all then REALLY look forward to the new season. UTA.
Is another relatively low scoring midfielder really what we need right now? Obviously I'm now against more depth but surely we should be spending money on GK/CB unless Walton and Ince are going to be used in those positions? I do trust the club however to make some decent signings over the next month and I'm sure we will all then REALLY look forward to the new season. UTA. JPsseagulls
  • Score: 1

5:42am Fri 4 Jul 14

mark by the sea says...

I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club.
There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked ..
Zigor has left, who is coming in?
Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ?
I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out?
The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out?
We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.
I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club. There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked .. Zigor has left, who is coming in? Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ? I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out? The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out? We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly. mark by the sea
  • Score: 17

6:18am Fri 4 Jul 14

Albion In Staffs says...

mark by the sea wrote:
I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club.
There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked ..
Zigor has left, who is coming in?
Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ?
I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out?
The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out?
We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.
I agree on the Aranalde news and don't understand the club's apparent reticence to engage?
It's a strange sentence: "Aranalde, the Seagulls' European scout, is also no longer working for the club, The Argus can reveal." It suggests a secretive club that won't discuss its moves and plans?
It's not the most earth shattering news, but you're right MBTS. Why the change? With Day going too, what's the plan? And perhaps more importantly, why the secrecy? (It's not on the club website)
I just find it strange that the local paper has to report in such a way and the club's continued lack of engagement creates (for me at least) an unnecessary feeling of distrust. People make up their own stories about why when there's probably a very simple explanation - but the club haven't given it.
Strange.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club. There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked .. Zigor has left, who is coming in? Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ? I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out? The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out? We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.[/p][/quote]I agree on the Aranalde news and don't understand the club's apparent reticence to engage? It's a strange sentence: "Aranalde, the Seagulls' European scout, is also no longer working for the club, The Argus can reveal." It suggests a secretive club that won't discuss its moves and plans? It's not the most earth shattering news, but you're right MBTS. Why the change? With Day going too, what's the plan? And perhaps more importantly, why the secrecy? (It's not on the club website) I just find it strange that the local paper has to report in such a way and the club's continued lack of engagement creates (for me at least) an unnecessary feeling of distrust. People make up their own stories about why when there's probably a very simple explanation - but the club haven't given it. Strange. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 7

6:37am Fri 4 Jul 14

bbb1969 says...

Obviously don't need all the scouts judging by all the players we have purchsed over the las year to date.
I will be patient and see what happens as speculation is all we have at the moment and that can be dangerous. Not sure about Ince not being our main cdm unless we are looking to play 3 - 2-2-3 formation with 2 cdms and then 2 centre mf slightly wide with a 3 up front strategy with a mixture of wingers and strikers as long as Ulloa is kept. This formation is about winning the ball in defence and quick counter. Sorry I have begun to speculate but hope Ince is not our new cb.
Obviously don't need all the scouts judging by all the players we have purchsed over the las year to date. I will be patient and see what happens as speculation is all we have at the moment and that can be dangerous. Not sure about Ince not being our main cdm unless we are looking to play 3 - 2-2-3 formation with 2 cdms and then 2 centre mf slightly wide with a 3 up front strategy with a mixture of wingers and strikers as long as Ulloa is kept. This formation is about winning the ball in defence and quick counter. Sorry I have begun to speculate but hope Ince is not our new cb. bbb1969
  • Score: 0

6:56am Fri 4 Jul 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

mark by the sea wrote:
I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club.
There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked ..
Zigor has left, who is coming in?
Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ?
I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out?
The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out?
We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.
Speaking of missing something... have we all missed something? A whole day has passed since you posted this MBTS...

Arnie , have you had enough humble pie,? The farce of three central defenders caught us with no cover at Derby!
Ulloa off to Leicester as I said he would 5 months ago and at the figure I quoted, did I pretend to have inside knowledge then?...

I must have missed the big news confirming this yesterday! Now I'm not saying you're wrong, Mark. Maybe you have a good source, in which case would you share it with us? And would you remind us what price we will get for Ulloa? Of course, it might just be that you know nothing more than the rest of us - your celebrations might be premature or they might be as groundless as Coventry City. Me? I'm happy to wait an see what happens.

UTA!!
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club. There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked .. Zigor has left, who is coming in? Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ? I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out? The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out? We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.[/p][/quote]Speaking of missing something... have we all missed something? A whole day has passed since you posted this MBTS... Arnie , have you had enough humble pie,? The farce of three central defenders caught us with no cover at Derby! Ulloa off to Leicester as I said he would 5 months ago and at the figure I quoted, did I pretend to have inside knowledge then?... I must have missed the big news confirming this yesterday! Now I'm not saying you're wrong, Mark. Maybe you have a good source, in which case would you share it with us? And would you remind us what price we will get for Ulloa? Of course, it might just be that you know nothing more than the rest of us - your celebrations might be premature or they might be as groundless as Coventry City. Me? I'm happy to wait an see what happens. UTA!! Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 3

6:59am Fri 4 Jul 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club.
There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked ..
Zigor has left, who is coming in?
Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ?
I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out?
The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out?
We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.
Speaking of missing something... have we all missed something? A whole day has passed since you posted this MBTS...

Arnie , have you had enough humble pie,? The farce of three central defenders caught us with no cover at Derby!
Ulloa off to Leicester as I said he would 5 months ago and at the figure I quoted, did I pretend to have inside knowledge then?...

I must have missed the big news confirming this yesterday! Now I'm not saying you're wrong, Mark. Maybe you have a good source, in which case would you share it with us? And would you remind us what price we will get for Ulloa? Of course, it might just be that you know nothing more than the rest of us - your celebrations might be premature or they might be as groundless as Coventry City. Me? I'm happy to wait an see what happens.

UTA!!
You've completely lost me.... Are you referring to a different post?
[quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club. There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked .. Zigor has left, who is coming in? Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ? I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out? The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out? We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.[/p][/quote]Speaking of missing something... have we all missed something? A whole day has passed since you posted this MBTS... Arnie , have you had enough humble pie,? The farce of three central defenders caught us with no cover at Derby! Ulloa off to Leicester as I said he would 5 months ago and at the figure I quoted, did I pretend to have inside knowledge then?... I must have missed the big news confirming this yesterday! Now I'm not saying you're wrong, Mark. Maybe you have a good source, in which case would you share it with us? And would you remind us what price we will get for Ulloa? Of course, it might just be that you know nothing more than the rest of us - your celebrations might be premature or they might be as groundless as Coventry City. Me? I'm happy to wait an see what happens. UTA!![/p][/quote]You've completely lost me.... Are you referring to a different post? Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 0

7:09am Fri 4 Jul 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club.
There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked ..
Zigor has left, who is coming in?
Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ?
I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out?
The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out?
We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.
Speaking of missing something... have we all missed something? A whole day has passed since you posted this MBTS...

Arnie , have you had enough humble pie,? The farce of three central defenders caught us with no cover at Derby!
Ulloa off to Leicester as I said he would 5 months ago and at the figure I quoted, did I pretend to have inside knowledge then?...

I must have missed the big news confirming this yesterday! Now I'm not saying you're wrong, Mark. Maybe you have a good source, in which case would you share it with us? And would you remind us what price we will get for Ulloa? Of course, it might just be that you know nothing more than the rest of us - your celebrations might be premature or they might be as groundless as Coventry City. Me? I'm happy to wait an see what happens.

UTA!!
You've completely lost me.... Are you referring to a different post?
Scrap that last comment SSI, I've just worked out I'm being a little slow.
It's early!!!
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club. There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked .. Zigor has left, who is coming in? Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ? I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out? The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out? We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.[/p][/quote]Speaking of missing something... have we all missed something? A whole day has passed since you posted this MBTS... Arnie , have you had enough humble pie,? The farce of three central defenders caught us with no cover at Derby! Ulloa off to Leicester as I said he would 5 months ago and at the figure I quoted, did I pretend to have inside knowledge then?... I must have missed the big news confirming this yesterday! Now I'm not saying you're wrong, Mark. Maybe you have a good source, in which case would you share it with us? And would you remind us what price we will get for Ulloa? Of course, it might just be that you know nothing more than the rest of us - your celebrations might be premature or they might be as groundless as Coventry City. Me? I'm happy to wait an see what happens. UTA!![/p][/quote]You've completely lost me.... Are you referring to a different post?[/p][/quote]Scrap that last comment SSI, I've just worked out I'm being a little slow. It's early!!! Albion In Staffs
  • Score: -2

7:09am Fri 4 Jul 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club.
There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked ..
Zigor has left, who is coming in?
Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ?
I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out?
The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out?
We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.
Speaking of missing something... have we all missed something? A whole day has passed since you posted this MBTS...

Arnie , have you had enough humble pie,? The farce of three central defenders caught us with no cover at Derby!
Ulloa off to Leicester as I said he would 5 months ago and at the figure I quoted, did I pretend to have inside knowledge then?...

I must have missed the big news confirming this yesterday! Now I'm not saying you're wrong, Mark. Maybe you have a good source, in which case would you share it with us? And would you remind us what price we will get for Ulloa? Of course, it might just be that you know nothing more than the rest of us - your celebrations might be premature or they might be as groundless as Coventry City. Me? I'm happy to wait an see what happens.

UTA!!
You've completely lost me.... Are you referring to a different post?
The thread isn't relevant. MBTS's quote was irrelevant to it's own thread. Perhaps I should have put the paragraph starting "Arnie" in quotation marks to clarify that these were Mark's words.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club. There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked .. Zigor has left, who is coming in? Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ? I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out? The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out? We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.[/p][/quote]Speaking of missing something... have we all missed something? A whole day has passed since you posted this MBTS... Arnie , have you had enough humble pie,? The farce of three central defenders caught us with no cover at Derby! Ulloa off to Leicester as I said he would 5 months ago and at the figure I quoted, did I pretend to have inside knowledge then?... I must have missed the big news confirming this yesterday! Now I'm not saying you're wrong, Mark. Maybe you have a good source, in which case would you share it with us? And would you remind us what price we will get for Ulloa? Of course, it might just be that you know nothing more than the rest of us - your celebrations might be premature or they might be as groundless as Coventry City. Me? I'm happy to wait an see what happens. UTA!![/p][/quote]You've completely lost me.... Are you referring to a different post?[/p][/quote]The thread isn't relevant. MBTS's quote was irrelevant to it's own thread. Perhaps I should have put the paragraph starting "Arnie" in quotation marks to clarify that these were Mark's words. Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 0

7:10am Fri 4 Jul 14

namgo49 says...

It is not a change, it's another departure. It seems we have no recruitment team, an inexperienced and sparse coaching team, no players coming in and players gone or going to go.

I hope senior management know what they are doing!!!
It is not a change, it's another departure. It seems we have no recruitment team, an inexperienced and sparse coaching team, no players coming in and players gone or going to go. I hope senior management know what they are doing!!! namgo49
  • Score: 9

7:20am Fri 4 Jul 14

Mark Dixon says...

I just cannot see why Mr. Naylor feel's posting this news at 5am is a good use of his time, it's all negative and yesterday it was all old news we knew weeks ago!!
I just cannot see why Mr. Naylor feel's posting this news at 5am is a good use of his time, it's all negative and yesterday it was all old news we knew weeks ago!! Mark Dixon
  • Score: 1

7:27am Fri 4 Jul 14

pannell1 says...

Hopefully todays the day as mentioned earlier this week in the argus by sammi he said we would have 2 in gk/df on board
Hopefully todays the day as mentioned earlier this week in the argus by sammi he said we would have 2 in gk/df on board pannell1
  • Score: 3

7:56am Fri 4 Jul 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Mark Dixon wrote:
I just cannot see why Mr. Naylor feel's posting this news at 5am is a good use of his time, it's all negative and yesterday it was all old news we knew weeks ago!!
Well firstly, i doubt he was up at 5am specifically as I'm sure they'll have launch timers on the website. Secondly, given the wider picture of the summer changes, the fact is it's a significant piece of information which so far, isn't reflected or explained by the club.
Negative or positive isn't the issue. It's news.
[quote][p][bold]Mark Dixon[/bold] wrote: I just cannot see why Mr. Naylor feel's posting this news at 5am is a good use of his time, it's all negative and yesterday it was all old news we knew weeks ago!![/p][/quote]Well firstly, i doubt he was up at 5am specifically as I'm sure they'll have launch timers on the website. Secondly, given the wider picture of the summer changes, the fact is it's a significant piece of information which so far, isn't reflected or explained by the club. Negative or positive isn't the issue. It's news. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 1

8:04am Fri 4 Jul 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

twonk wrote:
Brisbane Roar? Are they an Australian team?
Yes Brisbane Roar do exist. The way things are going we'll have to rename ourselves Brighton and Hove whimper.
[quote][p][bold]twonk[/bold] wrote: Brisbane Roar? Are they an Australian team?[/p][/quote]Yes Brisbane Roar do exist. The way things are going we'll have to rename ourselves Brighton and Hove whimper. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -7

8:17am Fri 4 Jul 14

michael505 says...

When are we going to sign someone. Time goes on and all we see is backrom staff coming and going. We have got new shirts but no one to wear them. By the time we get round to signing anyone they will have gone to other clubs. Same old story.
When are we going to sign someone. Time goes on and all we see is backrom staff coming and going. We have got new shirts but no one to wear them. By the time we get round to signing anyone they will have gone to other clubs. Same old story. michael505
  • Score: 0

8:27am Fri 4 Jul 14

mark by the sea says...

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club.
There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked ..
Zigor has left, who is coming in?
Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ?
I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out?
The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out?
We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.
Speaking of missing something... have we all missed something? A whole day has passed since you posted this MBTS...

Arnie , have you had enough humble pie,? The farce of three central defenders caught us with no cover at Derby!
Ulloa off to Leicester as I said he would 5 months ago and at the figure I quoted, did I pretend to have inside knowledge then?...

I must have missed the big news confirming this yesterday! Now I'm not saying you're wrong, Mark. Maybe you have a good source, in which case would you share it with us? And would you remind us what price we will get for Ulloa? Of course, it might just be that you know nothing more than the rest of us - your celebrations might be premature or they might be as groundless as Coventry City. Me? I'm happy to wait an see what happens.

UTA!!
You've completely lost me.... Are you referring to a different post?
The thread isn't relevant. MBTS's quote was irrelevant to it's own thread. Perhaps I should have put the paragraph starting "Arnie" in quotation marks to clarify that these were Mark's words.
Perhaps your other ' loyal' supporter Arnie will answer the quote!
Like I said yesterday if you live abroad and don't go to a game your a follower not a supporter, if your a loyal supporter which is what you claim,
In what way do you support the team? If it's commenting on the free argus website then your a fool.
Your the same as Arnie and Vegas, clinging to the argus makes you a bit odd if this is your support.
[quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club. There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked .. Zigor has left, who is coming in? Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ? I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out? The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out? We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.[/p][/quote]Speaking of missing something... have we all missed something? A whole day has passed since you posted this MBTS... Arnie , have you had enough humble pie,? The farce of three central defenders caught us with no cover at Derby! Ulloa off to Leicester as I said he would 5 months ago and at the figure I quoted, did I pretend to have inside knowledge then?... I must have missed the big news confirming this yesterday! Now I'm not saying you're wrong, Mark. Maybe you have a good source, in which case would you share it with us? And would you remind us what price we will get for Ulloa? Of course, it might just be that you know nothing more than the rest of us - your celebrations might be premature or they might be as groundless as Coventry City. Me? I'm happy to wait an see what happens. UTA!![/p][/quote]You've completely lost me.... Are you referring to a different post?[/p][/quote]The thread isn't relevant. MBTS's quote was irrelevant to it's own thread. Perhaps I should have put the paragraph starting "Arnie" in quotation marks to clarify that these were Mark's words.[/p][/quote]Perhaps your other ' loyal' supporter Arnie will answer the quote! Like I said yesterday if you live abroad and don't go to a game your a follower not a supporter, if your a loyal supporter which is what you claim, In what way do you support the team? If it's commenting on the free argus website then your a fool. Your the same as Arnie and Vegas, clinging to the argus makes you a bit odd if this is your support. mark by the sea
  • Score: -3

8:31am Fri 4 Jul 14

Beale32 says...

Have they sacked him? Made him redundant or has his contract run out. Either way doesn't really matter. Maybe burke and sammi want to do it all themselves. Im sure we will have players coming through the doors soon.
Have they sacked him? Made him redundant or has his contract run out. Either way doesn't really matter. Maybe burke and sammi want to do it all themselves. Im sure we will have players coming through the doors soon. Beale32
  • Score: 3

8:31am Fri 4 Jul 14

Albion In Staffs says...

michael505 wrote:
When are we going to sign someone. Time goes on and all we see is backrom staff coming and going. We have got new shirts but no one to wear them. By the time we get round to signing anyone they will have gone to other clubs. Same old story.
If you look at the list of confirmed transfers so far, I'm not convinced we've missed out anyone, or that we're in a worse position than anyone else?
Yes, we all want to see some movement and I agree, we do not to get players in, but we're certainly not playing catch up at this stage.
[quote][p][bold]michael505[/bold] wrote: When are we going to sign someone. Time goes on and all we see is backrom staff coming and going. We have got new shirts but no one to wear them. By the time we get round to signing anyone they will have gone to other clubs. Same old story.[/p][/quote]If you look at the list of confirmed transfers so far, I'm not convinced we've missed out anyone, or that we're in a worse position than anyone else? Yes, we all want to see some movement and I agree, we do not to get players in, but we're certainly not playing catch up at this stage. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 4

8:37am Fri 4 Jul 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
michael505 wrote:
When are we going to sign someone. Time goes on and all we see is backrom staff coming and going. We have got new shirts but no one to wear them. By the time we get round to signing anyone they will have gone to other clubs. Same old story.
If you look at the list of confirmed transfers so far, I'm not convinced we've missed out anyone, or that we're in a worse position than anyone else?
Yes, we all want to see some movement and I agree, we do not to get players in, but we're certainly not playing catch up at this stage.
Well Bournemouth Brentford and Birmingham for starters are all ahead of us in the transfer Market and they're just the ones I happen to have read about.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]michael505[/bold] wrote: When are we going to sign someone. Time goes on and all we see is backrom staff coming and going. We have got new shirts but no one to wear them. By the time we get round to signing anyone they will have gone to other clubs. Same old story.[/p][/quote]If you look at the list of confirmed transfers so far, I'm not convinced we've missed out anyone, or that we're in a worse position than anyone else? Yes, we all want to see some movement and I agree, we do not to get players in, but we're certainly not playing catch up at this stage.[/p][/quote]Well Bournemouth Brentford and Birmingham for starters are all ahead of us in the transfer Market and they're just the ones I happen to have read about. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -8

8:41am Fri 4 Jul 14

Albion In Staffs says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club.
There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked ..
Zigor has left, who is coming in?
Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ?
I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out?
The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out?
We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.
Speaking of missing something... have we all missed something? A whole day has passed since you posted this MBTS...

Arnie , have you had enough humble pie,? The farce of three central defenders caught us with no cover at Derby!
Ulloa off to Leicester as I said he would 5 months ago and at the figure I quoted, did I pretend to have inside knowledge then?...

I must have missed the big news confirming this yesterday! Now I'm not saying you're wrong, Mark. Maybe you have a good source, in which case would you share it with us? And would you remind us what price we will get for Ulloa? Of course, it might just be that you know nothing more than the rest of us - your celebrations might be premature or they might be as groundless as Coventry City. Me? I'm happy to wait an see what happens.

UTA!!
You've completely lost me.... Are you referring to a different post?
The thread isn't relevant. MBTS's quote was irrelevant to it's own thread. Perhaps I should have put the paragraph starting "Arnie" in quotation marks to clarify that these were Mark's words.
Perhaps your other ' loyal' supporter Arnie will answer the quote!
Like I said yesterday if you live abroad and don't go to a game your a follower not a supporter, if your a loyal supporter which is what you claim,
In what way do you support the team? If it's commenting on the free argus website then your a fool.
Your the same as Arnie and Vegas, clinging to the argus makes you a bit odd if this is your support.
Ooooh, blinkered, patronising view.
I now live 180 miles away, can't get to home games and use this site as a primary source of news.
I watched my first game from the Goldstone's South Stand in the 60's and was a reglar and season ticket holder throughout childhood. I've 'supported' my home town/city club ever since and watch them as often as possible, especially when they're in my area of the country. The fact that life moves you away from your place of origin doesn't change your allegiance or the strength of your support and frankly, i'm offended by a view that suggests it does.
And I'm sure I'm not alone in that.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club. There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked .. Zigor has left, who is coming in? Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ? I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out? The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out? We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.[/p][/quote]Speaking of missing something... have we all missed something? A whole day has passed since you posted this MBTS... Arnie , have you had enough humble pie,? The farce of three central defenders caught us with no cover at Derby! Ulloa off to Leicester as I said he would 5 months ago and at the figure I quoted, did I pretend to have inside knowledge then?... I must have missed the big news confirming this yesterday! Now I'm not saying you're wrong, Mark. Maybe you have a good source, in which case would you share it with us? And would you remind us what price we will get for Ulloa? Of course, it might just be that you know nothing more than the rest of us - your celebrations might be premature or they might be as groundless as Coventry City. Me? I'm happy to wait an see what happens. UTA!![/p][/quote]You've completely lost me.... Are you referring to a different post?[/p][/quote]The thread isn't relevant. MBTS's quote was irrelevant to it's own thread. Perhaps I should have put the paragraph starting "Arnie" in quotation marks to clarify that these were Mark's words.[/p][/quote]Perhaps your other ' loyal' supporter Arnie will answer the quote! Like I said yesterday if you live abroad and don't go to a game your a follower not a supporter, if your a loyal supporter which is what you claim, In what way do you support the team? If it's commenting on the free argus website then your a fool. Your the same as Arnie and Vegas, clinging to the argus makes you a bit odd if this is your support.[/p][/quote]Ooooh, blinkered, patronising view. I now live 180 miles away, can't get to home games and use this site as a primary source of news. I watched my first game from the Goldstone's South Stand in the 60's and was a reglar and season ticket holder throughout childhood. I've 'supported' my home town/city club ever since and watch them as often as possible, especially when they're in my area of the country. The fact that life moves you away from your place of origin doesn't change your allegiance or the strength of your support and frankly, i'm offended by a view that suggests it does. And I'm sure I'm not alone in that. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 14

8:42am Fri 4 Jul 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
michael505 wrote:
When are we going to sign someone. Time goes on and all we see is backrom staff coming and going. We have got new shirts but no one to wear them. By the time we get round to signing anyone they will have gone to other clubs. Same old story.
If you look at the list of confirmed transfers so far, I'm not convinced we've missed out anyone, or that we're in a worse position than anyone else?
Yes, we all want to see some movement and I agree, we do not to get players in, but we're certainly not playing catch up at this stage.
Well Bournemouth Brentford and Birmingham for starters are all ahead of us in the transfer Market and they're just the ones I happen to have read about.
My point is I'm not sure they're signing players we'd want. Different pond....
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]michael505[/bold] wrote: When are we going to sign someone. Time goes on and all we see is backrom staff coming and going. We have got new shirts but no one to wear them. By the time we get round to signing anyone they will have gone to other clubs. Same old story.[/p][/quote]If you look at the list of confirmed transfers so far, I'm not convinced we've missed out anyone, or that we're in a worse position than anyone else? Yes, we all want to see some movement and I agree, we do not to get players in, but we're certainly not playing catch up at this stage.[/p][/quote]Well Bournemouth Brentford and Birmingham for starters are all ahead of us in the transfer Market and they're just the ones I happen to have read about.[/p][/quote]My point is I'm not sure they're signing players we'd want. Different pond.... Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 3

8:43am Fri 4 Jul 14

mark by the sea says...

Beale32 wrote:
Have they sacked him? Made him redundant or has his contract run out. Either way doesn't really matter. Maybe burke and sammi want to do it all themselves. Im sure we will have players coming through the doors soon.
Zigor was a friend of Gus , I remember him being brought in,
I think zigor was the guy who spotted Leo, and Noone, I assume sami has someone? If so that's good news as it points to sami actually having some say in who comes here.
[quote][p][bold]Beale32[/bold] wrote: Have they sacked him? Made him redundant or has his contract run out. Either way doesn't really matter. Maybe burke and sammi want to do it all themselves. Im sure we will have players coming through the doors soon.[/p][/quote]Zigor was a friend of Gus , I remember him being brought in, I think zigor was the guy who spotted Leo, and Noone, I assume sami has someone? If so that's good news as it points to sami actually having some say in who comes here. mark by the sea
  • Score: 2

8:49am Fri 4 Jul 14

mark by the sea says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club.
There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked ..
Zigor has left, who is coming in?
Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ?
I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out?
The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out?
We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.
Speaking of missing something... have we all missed something? A whole day has passed since you posted this MBTS...

Arnie , have you had enough humble pie,? The farce of three central defenders caught us with no cover at Derby!
Ulloa off to Leicester as I said he would 5 months ago and at the figure I quoted, did I pretend to have inside knowledge then?...

I must have missed the big news confirming this yesterday! Now I'm not saying you're wrong, Mark. Maybe you have a good source, in which case would you share it with us? And would you remind us what price we will get for Ulloa? Of course, it might just be that you know nothing more than the rest of us - your celebrations might be premature or they might be as groundless as Coventry City. Me? I'm happy to wait an see what happens.

UTA!!
You've completely lost me.... Are you referring to a different post?
The thread isn't relevant. MBTS's quote was irrelevant to it's own thread. Perhaps I should have put the paragraph starting "Arnie" in quotation marks to clarify that these were Mark's words.
Perhaps your other ' loyal' supporter Arnie will answer the quote!
Like I said yesterday if you live abroad and don't go to a game your a follower not a supporter, if your a loyal supporter which is what you claim,
In what way do you support the team? If it's commenting on the free argus website then your a fool.
Your the same as Arnie and Vegas, clinging to the argus makes you a bit odd if this is your support.
Ooooh, blinkered, patronising view.
I now live 180 miles away, can't get to home games and use this site as a primary source of news.
I watched my first game from the Goldstone's South Stand in the 60's and was a reglar and season ticket holder throughout childhood. I've 'supported' my home town/city club ever since and watch them as often as possible, especially when they're in my area of the country. The fact that life moves you away from your place of origin doesn't change your allegiance or the strength of your support and frankly, i'm offended by a view that suggests it does.
And I'm sure I'm not alone in that.
You missed my point, Indonesia said he was a loyal supporter, better than me because I posted negative comments.. If you travel to see the club then your a supporter, if you don't ever see a team your a follower,
Or can someone tell me the difference?
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club. There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked .. Zigor has left, who is coming in? Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ? I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out? The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out? We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.[/p][/quote]Speaking of missing something... have we all missed something? A whole day has passed since you posted this MBTS... Arnie , have you had enough humble pie,? The farce of three central defenders caught us with no cover at Derby! Ulloa off to Leicester as I said he would 5 months ago and at the figure I quoted, did I pretend to have inside knowledge then?... I must have missed the big news confirming this yesterday! Now I'm not saying you're wrong, Mark. Maybe you have a good source, in which case would you share it with us? And would you remind us what price we will get for Ulloa? Of course, it might just be that you know nothing more than the rest of us - your celebrations might be premature or they might be as groundless as Coventry City. Me? I'm happy to wait an see what happens. UTA!![/p][/quote]You've completely lost me.... Are you referring to a different post?[/p][/quote]The thread isn't relevant. MBTS's quote was irrelevant to it's own thread. Perhaps I should have put the paragraph starting "Arnie" in quotation marks to clarify that these were Mark's words.[/p][/quote]Perhaps your other ' loyal' supporter Arnie will answer the quote! Like I said yesterday if you live abroad and don't go to a game your a follower not a supporter, if your a loyal supporter which is what you claim, In what way do you support the team? If it's commenting on the free argus website then your a fool. Your the same as Arnie and Vegas, clinging to the argus makes you a bit odd if this is your support.[/p][/quote]Ooooh, blinkered, patronising view. I now live 180 miles away, can't get to home games and use this site as a primary source of news. I watched my first game from the Goldstone's South Stand in the 60's and was a reglar and season ticket holder throughout childhood. I've 'supported' my home town/city club ever since and watch them as often as possible, especially when they're in my area of the country. The fact that life moves you away from your place of origin doesn't change your allegiance or the strength of your support and frankly, i'm offended by a view that suggests it does. And I'm sure I'm not alone in that.[/p][/quote]You missed my point, Indonesia said he was a loyal supporter, better than me because I posted negative comments.. If you travel to see the club then your a supporter, if you don't ever see a team your a follower, Or can someone tell me the difference? mark by the sea
  • Score: 0

9:05am Fri 4 Jul 14

Albion In Staffs says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club.
There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked ..
Zigor has left, who is coming in?
Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ?
I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out?
The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out?
We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.
Speaking of missing something... have we all missed something? A whole day has passed since you posted this MBTS...

Arnie , have you had enough humble pie,? The farce of three central defenders caught us with no cover at Derby!
Ulloa off to Leicester as I said he would 5 months ago and at the figure I quoted, did I pretend to have inside knowledge then?...

I must have missed the big news confirming this yesterday! Now I'm not saying you're wrong, Mark. Maybe you have a good source, in which case would you share it with us? And would you remind us what price we will get for Ulloa? Of course, it might just be that you know nothing more than the rest of us - your celebrations might be premature or they might be as groundless as Coventry City. Me? I'm happy to wait an see what happens.

UTA!!
You've completely lost me.... Are you referring to a different post?
The thread isn't relevant. MBTS's quote was irrelevant to it's own thread. Perhaps I should have put the paragraph starting "Arnie" in quotation marks to clarify that these were Mark's words.
Perhaps your other ' loyal' supporter Arnie will answer the quote!
Like I said yesterday if you live abroad and don't go to a game your a follower not a supporter, if your a loyal supporter which is what you claim,
In what way do you support the team? If it's commenting on the free argus website then your a fool.
Your the same as Arnie and Vegas, clinging to the argus makes you a bit odd if this is your support.
Ooooh, blinkered, patronising view.
I now live 180 miles away, can't get to home games and use this site as a primary source of news.
I watched my first game from the Goldstone's South Stand in the 60's and was a reglar and season ticket holder throughout childhood. I've 'supported' my home town/city club ever since and watch them as often as possible, especially when they're in my area of the country. The fact that life moves you away from your place of origin doesn't change your allegiance or the strength of your support and frankly, i'm offended by a view that suggests it does.
And I'm sure I'm not alone in that.
You missed my point, Indonesia said he was a loyal supporter, better than me because I posted negative comments.. If you travel to see the club then your a supporter, if you don't ever see a team your a follower,
Or can someone tell me the difference?
Well in defence of those in Indonesia or the U.S.A etc. I'd suggest distance makes it virtually impossible to see us play, even on a irregular basis. While we play at places like Derby and Sheffield and I can go, I'm not sure there are too many Indonesian clubs in the Championship, so to inflict blanket criticism on that basis is entirely unfair in my view.
You can be negative in your outlook (and you are!) and others can be more optimistic and benevolent towards the club. It doesn't make you better or worse and the fact we're all on here makes us ALL fans or supporters with a different view of the same subject. Playing my d*ck's bigger than yours because you buy a pie on a Saturday is nonsense. You're a fan, as we all are.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club. There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked .. Zigor has left, who is coming in? Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ? I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out? The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out? We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.[/p][/quote]Speaking of missing something... have we all missed something? A whole day has passed since you posted this MBTS... Arnie , have you had enough humble pie,? The farce of three central defenders caught us with no cover at Derby! Ulloa off to Leicester as I said he would 5 months ago and at the figure I quoted, did I pretend to have inside knowledge then?... I must have missed the big news confirming this yesterday! Now I'm not saying you're wrong, Mark. Maybe you have a good source, in which case would you share it with us? And would you remind us what price we will get for Ulloa? Of course, it might just be that you know nothing more than the rest of us - your celebrations might be premature or they might be as groundless as Coventry City. Me? I'm happy to wait an see what happens. UTA!![/p][/quote]You've completely lost me.... Are you referring to a different post?[/p][/quote]The thread isn't relevant. MBTS's quote was irrelevant to it's own thread. Perhaps I should have put the paragraph starting "Arnie" in quotation marks to clarify that these were Mark's words.[/p][/quote]Perhaps your other ' loyal' supporter Arnie will answer the quote! Like I said yesterday if you live abroad and don't go to a game your a follower not a supporter, if your a loyal supporter which is what you claim, In what way do you support the team? If it's commenting on the free argus website then your a fool. Your the same as Arnie and Vegas, clinging to the argus makes you a bit odd if this is your support.[/p][/quote]Ooooh, blinkered, patronising view. I now live 180 miles away, can't get to home games and use this site as a primary source of news. I watched my first game from the Goldstone's South Stand in the 60's and was a reglar and season ticket holder throughout childhood. I've 'supported' my home town/city club ever since and watch them as often as possible, especially when they're in my area of the country. The fact that life moves you away from your place of origin doesn't change your allegiance or the strength of your support and frankly, i'm offended by a view that suggests it does. And I'm sure I'm not alone in that.[/p][/quote]You missed my point, Indonesia said he was a loyal supporter, better than me because I posted negative comments.. If you travel to see the club then your a supporter, if you don't ever see a team your a follower, Or can someone tell me the difference?[/p][/quote]Well in defence of those in Indonesia or the U.S.A etc. I'd suggest distance makes it virtually impossible to see us play, even on a irregular basis. While we play at places like Derby and Sheffield and I can go, I'm not sure there are too many Indonesian clubs in the Championship, so to inflict blanket criticism on that basis is entirely unfair in my view. You can be negative in your outlook (and you are!) and others can be more optimistic and benevolent towards the club. It doesn't make you better or worse and the fact we're all on here makes us ALL fans or supporters with a different view of the same subject. Playing my d*ck's bigger than yours because you buy a pie on a Saturday is nonsense. You're a fan, as we all are. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 6

9:18am Fri 4 Jul 14

brighton bluenose says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club.
There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked ..
Zigor has left, who is coming in?
Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ?
I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out?
The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out?
We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.
I agree on the Aranalde news and don't understand the club's apparent reticence to engage?
It's a strange sentence: "Aranalde, the Seagulls' European scout, is also no longer working for the club, The Argus can reveal." It suggests a secretive club that won't discuss its moves and plans?
It's not the most earth shattering news, but you're right MBTS. Why the change? With Day going too, what's the plan? And perhaps more importantly, why the secrecy? (It's not on the club website)
I just find it strange that the local paper has to report in such a way and the club's continued lack of engagement creates (for me at least) an unnecessary feeling of distrust. People make up their own stories about why when there's probably a very simple explanation - but the club haven't given it.
Strange.
What many will have missed earlier in the week as it was a snippet tucked away in the paper edition of The Argus and not on the on-line version was that our sports science manager - sorry can't remember his name - has also left to join Brentford whilst the club is now recruiting for a VOLUNTEER sports science post on a one year placement with expenses only as payment!!
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club. There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked .. Zigor has left, who is coming in? Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ? I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out? The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out? We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.[/p][/quote]I agree on the Aranalde news and don't understand the club's apparent reticence to engage? It's a strange sentence: "Aranalde, the Seagulls' European scout, is also no longer working for the club, The Argus can reveal." It suggests a secretive club that won't discuss its moves and plans? It's not the most earth shattering news, but you're right MBTS. Why the change? With Day going too, what's the plan? And perhaps more importantly, why the secrecy? (It's not on the club website) I just find it strange that the local paper has to report in such a way and the club's continued lack of engagement creates (for me at least) an unnecessary feeling of distrust. People make up their own stories about why when there's probably a very simple explanation - but the club haven't given it. Strange.[/p][/quote]What many will have missed earlier in the week as it was a snippet tucked away in the paper edition of The Argus and not on the on-line version was that our sports science manager - sorry can't remember his name - has also left to join Brentford whilst the club is now recruiting for a VOLUNTEER sports science post on a one year placement with expenses only as payment!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 6

9:23am Fri 4 Jul 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

A quick repost just for Mark as he has trouble with the actual meaning of this word:

loyalty
ˈlɔɪəlti/
A strong feeling of support or allegiance.

Which part of that confuses you?
A quick repost just for Mark as he has trouble with the actual meaning of this word: loyalty ˈlɔɪəlti/ A strong feeling of support or allegiance. Which part of that confuses you? Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 3

9:24am Fri 4 Jul 14

ringtone says...

Whitehawk sign Torres!

Seems like the noisy neighbours are showing more ambition in the transfer market.
Whitehawk sign Torres! Seems like the noisy neighbours are showing more ambition in the transfer market. ringtone
  • Score: -1

9:27am Fri 4 Jul 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club.
There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked ..
Zigor has left, who is coming in?
Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ?
I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out?
The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out?
We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.
Speaking of missing something... have we all missed something? A whole day has passed since you posted this MBTS...

Arnie , have you had enough humble pie,? The farce of three central defenders caught us with no cover at Derby!
Ulloa off to Leicester as I said he would 5 months ago and at the figure I quoted, did I pretend to have inside knowledge then?...

I must have missed the big news confirming this yesterday! Now I'm not saying you're wrong, Mark. Maybe you have a good source, in which case would you share it with us? And would you remind us what price we will get for Ulloa? Of course, it might just be that you know nothing more than the rest of us - your celebrations might be premature or they might be as groundless as Coventry City. Me? I'm happy to wait an see what happens.

UTA!!
You've completely lost me.... Are you referring to a different post?
The thread isn't relevant. MBTS's quote was irrelevant to it's own thread. Perhaps I should have put the paragraph starting "Arnie" in quotation marks to clarify that these were Mark's words.
Perhaps your other ' loyal' supporter Arnie will answer the quote!
Like I said yesterday if you live abroad and don't go to a game your a follower not a supporter, if your a loyal supporter which is what you claim,
In what way do you support the team? If it's commenting on the free argus website then your a fool.
Your the same as Arnie and Vegas, clinging to the argus makes you a bit odd if this is your support.
Ooooh, blinkered, patronising view.
I now live 180 miles away, can't get to home games and use this site as a primary source of news.
I watched my first game from the Goldstone's South Stand in the 60's and was a reglar and season ticket holder throughout childhood. I've 'supported' my home town/city club ever since and watch them as often as possible, especially when they're in my area of the country. The fact that life moves you away from your place of origin doesn't change your allegiance or the strength of your support and frankly, i'm offended by a view that suggests it does.
And I'm sure I'm not alone in that.
You missed my point, Indonesia said he was a loyal supporter, better than me because I posted negative comments.. If you travel to see the club then your a supporter, if you don't ever see a team your a follower,
Or can someone tell me the difference?
Given your constant criticism of the club I'd say you were more of an regular attendee than a supporter in its literal sense.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club. There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked .. Zigor has left, who is coming in? Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ? I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out? The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out? We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.[/p][/quote]Speaking of missing something... have we all missed something? A whole day has passed since you posted this MBTS... Arnie , have you had enough humble pie,? The farce of three central defenders caught us with no cover at Derby! Ulloa off to Leicester as I said he would 5 months ago and at the figure I quoted, did I pretend to have inside knowledge then?... I must have missed the big news confirming this yesterday! Now I'm not saying you're wrong, Mark. Maybe you have a good source, in which case would you share it with us? And would you remind us what price we will get for Ulloa? Of course, it might just be that you know nothing more than the rest of us - your celebrations might be premature or they might be as groundless as Coventry City. Me? I'm happy to wait an see what happens. UTA!![/p][/quote]You've completely lost me.... Are you referring to a different post?[/p][/quote]The thread isn't relevant. MBTS's quote was irrelevant to it's own thread. Perhaps I should have put the paragraph starting "Arnie" in quotation marks to clarify that these were Mark's words.[/p][/quote]Perhaps your other ' loyal' supporter Arnie will answer the quote! Like I said yesterday if you live abroad and don't go to a game your a follower not a supporter, if your a loyal supporter which is what you claim, In what way do you support the team? If it's commenting on the free argus website then your a fool. Your the same as Arnie and Vegas, clinging to the argus makes you a bit odd if this is your support.[/p][/quote]Ooooh, blinkered, patronising view. I now live 180 miles away, can't get to home games and use this site as a primary source of news. I watched my first game from the Goldstone's South Stand in the 60's and was a reglar and season ticket holder throughout childhood. I've 'supported' my home town/city club ever since and watch them as often as possible, especially when they're in my area of the country. The fact that life moves you away from your place of origin doesn't change your allegiance or the strength of your support and frankly, i'm offended by a view that suggests it does. And I'm sure I'm not alone in that.[/p][/quote]You missed my point, Indonesia said he was a loyal supporter, better than me because I posted negative comments.. If you travel to see the club then your a supporter, if you don't ever see a team your a follower, Or can someone tell me the difference?[/p][/quote]Given your constant criticism of the club I'd say you were more of an regular attendee than a supporter in its literal sense. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 5

9:37am Fri 4 Jul 14

mark by the sea says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club.
There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked ..
Zigor has left, who is coming in?
Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ?
I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out?
The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out?
We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.
Speaking of missing something... have we all missed something? A whole day has passed since you posted this MBTS...

Arnie , have you had enough humble pie,? The farce of three central defenders caught us with no cover at Derby!
Ulloa off to Leicester as I said he would 5 months ago and at the figure I quoted, did I pretend to have inside knowledge then?...

I must have missed the big news confirming this yesterday! Now I'm not saying you're wrong, Mark. Maybe you have a good source, in which case would you share it with us? And would you remind us what price we will get for Ulloa? Of course, it might just be that you know nothing more than the rest of us - your celebrations might be premature or they might be as groundless as Coventry City. Me? I'm happy to wait an see what happens.

UTA!!
You've completely lost me.... Are you referring to a different post?
The thread isn't relevant. MBTS's quote was irrelevant to it's own thread. Perhaps I should have put the paragraph starting "Arnie" in quotation marks to clarify that these were Mark's words.
Perhaps your other ' loyal' supporter Arnie will answer the quote!
Like I said yesterday if you live abroad and don't go to a game your a follower not a supporter, if your a loyal supporter which is what you claim,
In what way do you support the team? If it's commenting on the free argus website then your a fool.
Your the same as Arnie and Vegas, clinging to the argus makes you a bit odd if this is your support.
Ooooh, blinkered, patronising view.
I now live 180 miles away, can't get to home games and use this site as a primary source of news.
I watched my first game from the Goldstone's South Stand in the 60's and was a reglar and season ticket holder throughout childhood. I've 'supported' my home town/city club ever since and watch them as often as possible, especially when they're in my area of the country. The fact that life moves you away from your place of origin doesn't change your allegiance or the strength of your support and frankly, i'm offended by a view that suggests it does.
And I'm sure I'm not alone in that.
You missed my point, Indonesia said he was a loyal supporter, better than me because I posted negative comments.. If you travel to see the club then your a supporter, if you don't ever see a team your a follower,
Or can someone tell me the difference?
Given your constant criticism of the club I'd say you were more of an regular attendee than a supporter in its literal sense.
Yes but your not parting with £1000 a year are you? I pay my money and have committed myself to attending whatever the weather , I pay premier league prices, I expect value for my money, or can I put it this way,
I am a football fan first , a Albion supporter second.. I would rather end up 5th from bottom if we tried to play quality football rather than hoofing it.
Perhaps you should tell me the albions plan in getting rid of scouting when we have a academy building awaiting talented young players.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club. There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked .. Zigor has left, who is coming in? Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ? I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out? The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out? We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.[/p][/quote]Speaking of missing something... have we all missed something? A whole day has passed since you posted this MBTS... Arnie , have you had enough humble pie,? The farce of three central defenders caught us with no cover at Derby! Ulloa off to Leicester as I said he would 5 months ago and at the figure I quoted, did I pretend to have inside knowledge then?... I must have missed the big news confirming this yesterday! Now I'm not saying you're wrong, Mark. Maybe you have a good source, in which case would you share it with us? And would you remind us what price we will get for Ulloa? Of course, it might just be that you know nothing more than the rest of us - your celebrations might be premature or they might be as groundless as Coventry City. Me? I'm happy to wait an see what happens. UTA!![/p][/quote]You've completely lost me.... Are you referring to a different post?[/p][/quote]The thread isn't relevant. MBTS's quote was irrelevant to it's own thread. Perhaps I should have put the paragraph starting "Arnie" in quotation marks to clarify that these were Mark's words.[/p][/quote]Perhaps your other ' loyal' supporter Arnie will answer the quote! Like I said yesterday if you live abroad and don't go to a game your a follower not a supporter, if your a loyal supporter which is what you claim, In what way do you support the team? If it's commenting on the free argus website then your a fool. Your the same as Arnie and Vegas, clinging to the argus makes you a bit odd if this is your support.[/p][/quote]Ooooh, blinkered, patronising view. I now live 180 miles away, can't get to home games and use this site as a primary source of news. I watched my first game from the Goldstone's South Stand in the 60's and was a reglar and season ticket holder throughout childhood. I've 'supported' my home town/city club ever since and watch them as often as possible, especially when they're in my area of the country. The fact that life moves you away from your place of origin doesn't change your allegiance or the strength of your support and frankly, i'm offended by a view that suggests it does. And I'm sure I'm not alone in that.[/p][/quote]You missed my point, Indonesia said he was a loyal supporter, better than me because I posted negative comments.. If you travel to see the club then your a supporter, if you don't ever see a team your a follower, Or can someone tell me the difference?[/p][/quote]Given your constant criticism of the club I'd say you were more of an regular attendee than a supporter in its literal sense.[/p][/quote]Yes but your not parting with £1000 a year are you? I pay my money and have committed myself to attending whatever the weather , I pay premier league prices, I expect value for my money, or can I put it this way, I am a football fan first , a Albion supporter second.. I would rather end up 5th from bottom if we tried to play quality football rather than hoofing it. Perhaps you should tell me the albions plan in getting rid of scouting when we have a academy building awaiting talented young players. mark by the sea
  • Score: -3

9:43am Fri 4 Jul 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club.
There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked ..
Zigor has left, who is coming in?
Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ?
I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out?
The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out?
We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.
Speaking of missing something... have we all missed something? A whole day has passed since you posted this MBTS...

Arnie , have you had enough humble pie,? The farce of three central defenders caught us with no cover at Derby!
Ulloa off to Leicester as I said he would 5 months ago and at the figure I quoted, did I pretend to have inside knowledge then?...

I must have missed the big news confirming this yesterday! Now I'm not saying you're wrong, Mark. Maybe you have a good source, in which case would you share it with us? And would you remind us what price we will get for Ulloa? Of course, it might just be that you know nothing more than the rest of us - your celebrations might be premature or they might be as groundless as Coventry City. Me? I'm happy to wait an see what happens.

UTA!!
You've completely lost me.... Are you referring to a different post?
The thread isn't relevant. MBTS's quote was irrelevant to it's own thread. Perhaps I should have put the paragraph starting "Arnie" in quotation marks to clarify that these were Mark's words.
Perhaps your other ' loyal' supporter Arnie will answer the quote!
Like I said yesterday if you live abroad and don't go to a game your a follower not a supporter, if your a loyal supporter which is what you claim,
In what way do you support the team? If it's commenting on the free argus website then your a fool.
Your the same as Arnie and Vegas, clinging to the argus makes you a bit odd if this is your support.
Ooooh, blinkered, patronising view.
I now live 180 miles away, can't get to home games and use this site as a primary source of news.
I watched my first game from the Goldstone's South Stand in the 60's and was a reglar and season ticket holder throughout childhood. I've 'supported' my home town/city club ever since and watch them as often as possible, especially when they're in my area of the country. The fact that life moves you away from your place of origin doesn't change your allegiance or the strength of your support and frankly, i'm offended by a view that suggests it does.
And I'm sure I'm not alone in that.
You missed my point, Indonesia said he was a loyal supporter, better than me because I posted negative comments.. If you travel to see the club then your a supporter, if you don't ever see a team your a follower,
Or can someone tell me the difference?
Well in defence of those in Indonesia or the U.S.A etc. I'd suggest distance makes it virtually impossible to see us play, even on a irregular basis. While we play at places like Derby and Sheffield and I can go, I'm not sure there are too many Indonesian clubs in the Championship, so to inflict blanket criticism on that basis is entirely unfair in my view.
You can be negative in your outlook (and you are!) and others can be more optimistic and benevolent towards the club. It doesn't make you better or worse and the fact we're all on here makes us ALL fans or supporters with a different view of the same subject. Playing my d*ck's bigger than yours because you buy a pie on a Saturday is nonsense. You're a fan, as we all are.
Thanks AIS, similar to what my reply would have been if I had seen Mark's post before now. The only things I would have added are :

- I note Mark's diversionary tactic of yet again accusing me of not being a supporter because I don't live in the UK, which is frankly becoming rather boring now. This time it has has very obviously been used so as to avoid answering the point I raised;

- if Mark doesn't understand the meaning of the word "supporter" then perhaps he could look it up. I don't think he'll find any dictionary which sets a maximum distance from which support can be given.

Once again I would also add that Mark doesn't know anything about me, Ex-pat, Vegas or any other of our many overseas contributors other than what we reveal in our posts to this site (and by and large those are usually positive towards the team we all love) so to cast doubt on our ability to support is uncalled for and unnecessary - I bet I travelled further than him for the games I attended last season!!

Grow up Mark and accept that supporters come in all guises and live all over the world. Would you stop calling yourself a supporter of B&HA if circumstances dictated that you move away from Brighton or indeed the UK? If yes, that says more about you than any of the other negative posts that you have made. If no, then that would make you one heck of a hypocrite!

UTA!!
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club. There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked .. Zigor has left, who is coming in? Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ? I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out? The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out? We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.[/p][/quote]Speaking of missing something... have we all missed something? A whole day has passed since you posted this MBTS... Arnie , have you had enough humble pie,? The farce of three central defenders caught us with no cover at Derby! Ulloa off to Leicester as I said he would 5 months ago and at the figure I quoted, did I pretend to have inside knowledge then?... I must have missed the big news confirming this yesterday! Now I'm not saying you're wrong, Mark. Maybe you have a good source, in which case would you share it with us? And would you remind us what price we will get for Ulloa? Of course, it might just be that you know nothing more than the rest of us - your celebrations might be premature or they might be as groundless as Coventry City. Me? I'm happy to wait an see what happens. UTA!![/p][/quote]You've completely lost me.... Are you referring to a different post?[/p][/quote]The thread isn't relevant. MBTS's quote was irrelevant to it's own thread. Perhaps I should have put the paragraph starting "Arnie" in quotation marks to clarify that these were Mark's words.[/p][/quote]Perhaps your other ' loyal' supporter Arnie will answer the quote! Like I said yesterday if you live abroad and don't go to a game your a follower not a supporter, if your a loyal supporter which is what you claim, In what way do you support the team? If it's commenting on the free argus website then your a fool. Your the same as Arnie and Vegas, clinging to the argus makes you a bit odd if this is your support.[/p][/quote]Ooooh, blinkered, patronising view. I now live 180 miles away, can't get to home games and use this site as a primary source of news. I watched my first game from the Goldstone's South Stand in the 60's and was a reglar and season ticket holder throughout childhood. I've 'supported' my home town/city club ever since and watch them as often as possible, especially when they're in my area of the country. The fact that life moves you away from your place of origin doesn't change your allegiance or the strength of your support and frankly, i'm offended by a view that suggests it does. And I'm sure I'm not alone in that.[/p][/quote]You missed my point, Indonesia said he was a loyal supporter, better than me because I posted negative comments.. If you travel to see the club then your a supporter, if you don't ever see a team your a follower, Or can someone tell me the difference?[/p][/quote]Well in defence of those in Indonesia or the U.S.A etc. I'd suggest distance makes it virtually impossible to see us play, even on a irregular basis. While we play at places like Derby and Sheffield and I can go, I'm not sure there are too many Indonesian clubs in the Championship, so to inflict blanket criticism on that basis is entirely unfair in my view. You can be negative in your outlook (and you are!) and others can be more optimistic and benevolent towards the club. It doesn't make you better or worse and the fact we're all on here makes us ALL fans or supporters with a different view of the same subject. Playing my d*ck's bigger than yours because you buy a pie on a Saturday is nonsense. You're a fan, as we all are.[/p][/quote]Thanks AIS, similar to what my reply would have been if I had seen Mark's post before now. The only things I would have added are : - I note Mark's diversionary tactic of yet again accusing me of not being a supporter because I don't live in the UK, which is frankly becoming rather boring now. This time it has has very obviously been used so as to avoid answering the point I raised; - if Mark doesn't understand the meaning of the word "supporter" then perhaps he could look it up. I don't think he'll find any dictionary which sets a maximum distance from which support can be given. Once again I would also add that Mark doesn't know anything about me, Ex-pat, Vegas or any other of our many overseas contributors other than what we reveal in our posts to this site (and by and large those are usually positive towards the team we all love) so to cast doubt on our ability to support is uncalled for and unnecessary - I bet I travelled further than him for the games I attended last season!! Grow up Mark and accept that supporters come in all guises and live all over the world. Would you stop calling yourself a supporter of B&HA if circumstances dictated that you move away from Brighton or indeed the UK? If yes, that says more about you than any of the other negative posts that you have made. If no, then that would make you one heck of a hypocrite! UTA!! Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 6

9:43am Fri 4 Jul 14

pjwilk says...

What do all these back room staff including scouts do we have fitness coaches ,goalkeeper coaches,all sorts.We rarely recruit any decent players and as for fitness we are one of the most injury prone,you cant say goalkeeping coaches are up to much.You cant make silk purses out of sows ears.
What do all these back room staff including scouts do we have fitness coaches ,goalkeeper coaches,all sorts.We rarely recruit any decent players and as for fitness we are one of the most injury prone,you cant say goalkeeping coaches are up to much.You cant make silk purses out of sows ears. pjwilk
  • Score: -5

9:49am Fri 4 Jul 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club.
There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked ..
Zigor has left, who is coming in?
Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ?
I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out?
The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out?
We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.
Speaking of missing something... have we all missed something? A whole day has passed since you posted this MBTS...

Arnie , have you had enough humble pie,? The farce of three central defenders caught us with no cover at Derby!
Ulloa off to Leicester as I said he would 5 months ago and at the figure I quoted, did I pretend to have inside knowledge then?...

I must have missed the big news confirming this yesterday! Now I'm not saying you're wrong, Mark. Maybe you have a good source, in which case would you share it with us? And would you remind us what price we will get for Ulloa? Of course, it might just be that you know nothing more than the rest of us - your celebrations might be premature or they might be as groundless as Coventry City. Me? I'm happy to wait an see what happens.

UTA!!
You've completely lost me.... Are you referring to a different post?
The thread isn't relevant. MBTS's quote was irrelevant to it's own thread. Perhaps I should have put the paragraph starting "Arnie" in quotation marks to clarify that these were Mark's words.
Perhaps your other ' loyal' supporter Arnie will answer the quote!
Like I said yesterday if you live abroad and don't go to a game your a follower not a supporter, if your a loyal supporter which is what you claim,
In what way do you support the team? If it's commenting on the free argus website then your a fool.
Your the same as Arnie and Vegas, clinging to the argus makes you a bit odd if this is your support.
Ooooh, blinkered, patronising view.
I now live 180 miles away, can't get to home games and use this site as a primary source of news.
I watched my first game from the Goldstone's South Stand in the 60's and was a reglar and season ticket holder throughout childhood. I've 'supported' my home town/city club ever since and watch them as often as possible, especially when they're in my area of the country. The fact that life moves you away from your place of origin doesn't change your allegiance or the strength of your support and frankly, i'm offended by a view that suggests it does.
And I'm sure I'm not alone in that.
You missed my point, Indonesia said he was a loyal supporter, better than me because I posted negative comments.. If you travel to see the club then your a supporter, if you don't ever see a team your a follower,
Or can someone tell me the difference?
Given your constant criticism of the club I'd say you were more of an regular attendee than a supporter in its literal sense.
Yes but your not parting with £1000 a year are you? I pay my money and have committed myself to attending whatever the weather , I pay premier league prices, I expect value for my money, or can I put it this way,
I am a football fan first , a Albion supporter second.. I would rather end up 5th from bottom if we tried to play quality football rather than hoofing it.
Perhaps you should tell me the albions plan in getting rid of scouting when we have a academy building awaiting talented young players.
Actually, given the cost of flights I spent more than £1000 watching Brighton games last season (albeit not all going to the club), but does that make me any more of a loyal supporter of the club than anyone else on here? No, of course it doesn't. Stop treating being a Brighton fan as some sort of childish competition.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club. There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked .. Zigor has left, who is coming in? Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ? I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out? The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out? We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.[/p][/quote]Speaking of missing something... have we all missed something? A whole day has passed since you posted this MBTS... Arnie , have you had enough humble pie,? The farce of three central defenders caught us with no cover at Derby! Ulloa off to Leicester as I said he would 5 months ago and at the figure I quoted, did I pretend to have inside knowledge then?... I must have missed the big news confirming this yesterday! Now I'm not saying you're wrong, Mark. Maybe you have a good source, in which case would you share it with us? And would you remind us what price we will get for Ulloa? Of course, it might just be that you know nothing more than the rest of us - your celebrations might be premature or they might be as groundless as Coventry City. Me? I'm happy to wait an see what happens. UTA!![/p][/quote]You've completely lost me.... Are you referring to a different post?[/p][/quote]The thread isn't relevant. MBTS's quote was irrelevant to it's own thread. Perhaps I should have put the paragraph starting "Arnie" in quotation marks to clarify that these were Mark's words.[/p][/quote]Perhaps your other ' loyal' supporter Arnie will answer the quote! Like I said yesterday if you live abroad and don't go to a game your a follower not a supporter, if your a loyal supporter which is what you claim, In what way do you support the team? If it's commenting on the free argus website then your a fool. Your the same as Arnie and Vegas, clinging to the argus makes you a bit odd if this is your support.[/p][/quote]Ooooh, blinkered, patronising view. I now live 180 miles away, can't get to home games and use this site as a primary source of news. I watched my first game from the Goldstone's South Stand in the 60's and was a reglar and season ticket holder throughout childhood. I've 'supported' my home town/city club ever since and watch them as often as possible, especially when they're in my area of the country. The fact that life moves you away from your place of origin doesn't change your allegiance or the strength of your support and frankly, i'm offended by a view that suggests it does. And I'm sure I'm not alone in that.[/p][/quote]You missed my point, Indonesia said he was a loyal supporter, better than me because I posted negative comments.. If you travel to see the club then your a supporter, if you don't ever see a team your a follower, Or can someone tell me the difference?[/p][/quote]Given your constant criticism of the club I'd say you were more of an regular attendee than a supporter in its literal sense.[/p][/quote]Yes but your not parting with £1000 a year are you? I pay my money and have committed myself to attending whatever the weather , I pay premier league prices, I expect value for my money, or can I put it this way, I am a football fan first , a Albion supporter second.. I would rather end up 5th from bottom if we tried to play quality football rather than hoofing it. Perhaps you should tell me the albions plan in getting rid of scouting when we have a academy building awaiting talented young players.[/p][/quote]Actually, given the cost of flights I spent more than £1000 watching Brighton games last season (albeit not all going to the club), but does that make me any more of a loyal supporter of the club than anyone else on here? No, of course it doesn't. Stop treating being a Brighton fan as some sort of childish competition. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 7

11:54am Fri 4 Jul 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club.
There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked ..
Zigor has left, who is coming in?
Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ?
I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out?
The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out?
We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.
Speaking of missing something... have we all missed something? A whole day has passed since you posted this MBTS...

Arnie , have you had enough humble pie,? The farce of three central defenders caught us with no cover at Derby!
Ulloa off to Leicester as I said he would 5 months ago and at the figure I quoted, did I pretend to have inside knowledge then?...

I must have missed the big news confirming this yesterday! Now I'm not saying you're wrong, Mark. Maybe you have a good source, in which case would you share it with us? And would you remind us what price we will get for Ulloa? Of course, it might just be that you know nothing more than the rest of us - your celebrations might be premature or they might be as groundless as Coventry City. Me? I'm happy to wait an see what happens.

UTA!!
You've completely lost me.... Are you referring to a different post?
The thread isn't relevant. MBTS's quote was irrelevant to it's own thread. Perhaps I should have put the paragraph starting "Arnie" in quotation marks to clarify that these were Mark's words.
Perhaps your other ' loyal' supporter Arnie will answer the quote!
Like I said yesterday if you live abroad and don't go to a game your a follower not a supporter, if your a loyal supporter which is what you claim,
In what way do you support the team? If it's commenting on the free argus website then your a fool.
Your the same as Arnie and Vegas, clinging to the argus makes you a bit odd if this is your support.
Ooooh, blinkered, patronising view.
I now live 180 miles away, can't get to home games and use this site as a primary source of news.
I watched my first game from the Goldstone's South Stand in the 60's and was a reglar and season ticket holder throughout childhood. I've 'supported' my home town/city club ever since and watch them as often as possible, especially when they're in my area of the country. The fact that life moves you away from your place of origin doesn't change your allegiance or the strength of your support and frankly, i'm offended by a view that suggests it does.
And I'm sure I'm not alone in that.
You missed my point, Indonesia said he was a loyal supporter, better than me because I posted negative comments.. If you travel to see the club then your a supporter, if you don't ever see a team your a follower,
Or can someone tell me the difference?
Given your constant criticism of the club I'd say you were more of an regular attendee than a supporter in its literal sense.
Yes but your not parting with £1000 a year are you? I pay my money and have committed myself to attending whatever the weather , I pay premier league prices, I expect value for my money, or can I put it this way,
I am a football fan first , a Albion supporter second.. I would rather end up 5th from bottom if we tried to play quality football rather than hoofing it.
Perhaps you should tell me the albions plan in getting rid of scouting when we have a academy building awaiting talented young players.
Actually, given the cost of flights I spent more than £1000 watching Brighton games last season (albeit not all going to the club), but does that make me any more of a loyal supporter of the club than anyone else on here? No, of course it doesn't. Stop treating being a Brighton fan as some sort of childish competition.
And while we're all at it, MBTS, another thing!!!!
As fans, the suggestion of being 5th from bottom and playing quality football simply don't go together. Our perception is; 5th from bottom = we're poor, or put another way, playing quality football = top of (or near) the league.
So to suggest that a relegation fight can be harmonious and enjoyable, completely defeats the demands you make because you CHOOSE to spend a few quid.
As for the scouting situation, who knows what - or who - is around the corner and what we probably would agree on is that, amidst the internal changes, it would be nice for the club to outline it's long term thinking. At the moment, and IMO, you're right to challenge that element because it doesn't equate to the wider investment on facilities. You would hope there was a plan and if so, I don't see the point in a siege mentality and not sharing..
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I must have missed his reappointment , to ask what is happening at scouting level , it would appear the Argus have no direct channel for information, I have not bothered looking at the Seagull site, as to be honest it's about selling than informing fans some of what's happening at the club. There seems a brick wall has been built to stop any questions being asked .. Zigor has left, who is coming in? Mervyn Day has left , who is in charge ? I hope the answer is Liam Brady, or Steve wigley , why can't the club allow what can't be considered secret information out? The only thing that's come out is commercial selling us another kit, I feel sorry for parents, the clubs aim was to see kids in Albion shirts across Sussex, and that's been achieved ( thank god)! But ripping parents off with second home kit in 12 months is short sighted in my view, the club must have had the change of kit manufacturing in mind when contract ran out? We need news about players coming in, and that needs to happen quickly.[/p][/quote]Speaking of missing something... have we all missed something? A whole day has passed since you posted this MBTS... Arnie , have you had enough humble pie,? The farce of three central defenders caught us with no cover at Derby! Ulloa off to Leicester as I said he would 5 months ago and at the figure I quoted, did I pretend to have inside knowledge then?... I must have missed the big news confirming this yesterday! Now I'm not saying you're wrong, Mark. Maybe you have a good source, in which case would you share it with us? And would you remind us what price we will get for Ulloa? Of course, it might just be that you know nothing more than the rest of us - your celebrations might be premature or they might be as groundless as Coventry City. Me? I'm happy to wait an see what happens. UTA!![/p][/quote]You've completely lost me.... Are you referring to a different post?[/p][/quote]The thread isn't relevant. MBTS's quote was irrelevant to it's own thread. Perhaps I should have put the paragraph starting "Arnie" in quotation marks to clarify that these were Mark's words.[/p][/quote]Perhaps your other ' loyal' supporter Arnie will answer the quote! Like I said yesterday if you live abroad and don't go to a game your a follower not a supporter, if your a loyal supporter which is what you claim, In what way do you support the team? If it's commenting on the free argus website then your a fool. Your the same as Arnie and Vegas, clinging to the argus makes you a bit odd if this is your support.[/p][/quote]Ooooh, blinkered, patronising view. I now live 180 miles away, can't get to home games and use this site as a primary source of news. I watched my first game from the Goldstone's South Stand in the 60's and was a reglar and season ticket holder throughout childhood. I've 'supported' my home town/city club ever since and watch them as often as possible, especially when they're in my area of the country. The fact that life moves you away from your place of origin doesn't change your allegiance or the strength of your support and frankly, i'm offended by a view that suggests it does. And I'm sure I'm not alone in that.[/p][/quote]You missed my point, Indonesia said he was a loyal supporter, better than me because I posted negative comments.. If you travel to see the club then your a supporter, if you don't ever see a team your a follower, Or can someone tell me the difference?[/p][/quote]Given your constant criticism of the club I'd say you were more of an regular attendee than a supporter in its literal sense.[/p][/quote]Yes but your not parting with £1000 a year are you? I pay my money and have committed myself to attending whatever the weather , I pay premier league prices, I expect value for my money, or can I put it this way, I am a football fan first , a Albion supporter second.. I would rather end up 5th from bottom if we tried to play quality football rather than hoofing it. Perhaps you should tell me the albions plan in getting rid of scouting when we have a academy building awaiting talented young players.[/p][/quote]Actually, given the cost of flights I spent more than £1000 watching Brighton games last season (albeit not all going to the club), but does that make me any more of a loyal supporter of the club than anyone else on here? No, of course it doesn't. Stop treating being a Brighton fan as some sort of childish competition.[/p][/quote]And while we're all at it, MBTS, another thing!!!! As fans, the suggestion of being 5th from bottom and playing quality football simply don't go together. Our perception is; 5th from bottom = we're poor, or put another way, playing quality football = top of (or near) the league. So to suggest that a relegation fight can be harmonious and enjoyable, completely defeats the demands you make because you CHOOSE to spend a few quid. As for the scouting situation, who knows what - or who - is around the corner and what we probably would agree on is that, amidst the internal changes, it would be nice for the club to outline it's long term thinking. At the moment, and IMO, you're right to challenge that element because it doesn't equate to the wider investment on facilities. You would hope there was a plan and if so, I don't see the point in a siege mentality and not sharing.. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 2

1:09pm Fri 4 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

So Mark is a self declared supporter of, 'football first and Brighton second, ' isn't that a polite way of describing a 'fairweather supporter,' if the team plays well he supports them? This declaration by Mark certainly explains all his negative comments.

Those that are 100% behind the club thru thick and thin are the real suppoters, they are there even when the squad is not producing good football.

Mark talks of his spending a 1,000 a year, like that's any different from what others spend that attend matches, and of course people such as I are second rate supporters because we don't spend what he does, he ignores the fact that it would cost me a 1,000 to see just one match, maybe two if there was a mid week match as well as the saturday one.

I have submitted some 7 or 8 detailed money making ideas to Mr. Barber, how many have you come up with Mark?
So Mark is a self declared supporter of, 'football first and Brighton second, ' isn't that a polite way of describing a 'fairweather supporter,' if the team plays well he supports them? This declaration by Mark certainly explains all his negative comments. Those that are 100% behind the club thru thick and thin are the real suppoters, they are there even when the squad is not producing good football. Mark talks of his spending a 1,000 a year, like that's any different from what others spend that attend matches, and of course people such as I are second rate supporters because we don't spend what he does, he ignores the fact that it would cost me a 1,000 to see just one match, maybe two if there was a mid week match as well as the saturday one. I have submitted some 7 or 8 detailed money making ideas to Mr. Barber, how many have you come up with Mark? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

2:31pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
So Mark is a self declared supporter of, 'football first and Brighton second, ' isn't that a polite way of describing a 'fairweather supporter,' if the team plays well he supports them? This declaration by Mark certainly explains all his negative comments.

Those that are 100% behind the club thru thick and thin are the real suppoters, they are there even when the squad is not producing good football.

Mark talks of his spending a 1,000 a year, like that's any different from what others spend that attend matches, and of course people such as I are second rate supporters because we don't spend what he does, he ignores the fact that it would cost me a 1,000 to see just one match, maybe two if there was a mid week match as well as the saturday one.

I have submitted some 7 or 8 detailed money making ideas to Mr. Barber, how many have you come up with Mark?
Can you hear Markie sing? Nooo, nooo!
Can you hear Markie sing? Nooo, nooo!
Can you hear Markie sing?
I can't hear a flipping thing,
Nooo, nooo, Shhhhhhhh!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: So Mark is a self declared supporter of, 'football first and Brighton second, ' isn't that a polite way of describing a 'fairweather supporter,' if the team plays well he supports them? This declaration by Mark certainly explains all his negative comments. Those that are 100% behind the club thru thick and thin are the real suppoters, they are there even when the squad is not producing good football. Mark talks of his spending a 1,000 a year, like that's any different from what others spend that attend matches, and of course people such as I are second rate supporters because we don't spend what he does, he ignores the fact that it would cost me a 1,000 to see just one match, maybe two if there was a mid week match as well as the saturday one. I have submitted some 7 or 8 detailed money making ideas to Mr. Barber, how many have you come up with Mark?[/p][/quote]Can you hear Markie sing? Nooo, nooo! Can you hear Markie sing? Nooo, nooo! Can you hear Markie sing? I can't hear a flipping thing, Nooo, nooo, Shhhhhhhh! Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 0

2:38pm Fri 4 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

Mark should be, and maybe is, a Southampton fan, not too far to travel, good, 'football,' and lots of transfer action, as I say, maybe he is, it would certainly explain most of his comments.
Mark should be, and maybe is, a Southampton fan, not too far to travel, good, 'football,' and lots of transfer action, as I say, maybe he is, it would certainly explain most of his comments. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

5:52pm Fri 4 Jul 14

ringtone says...

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
So Mark is a self declared supporter of, 'football first and Brighton second, ' isn't that a polite way of describing a 'fairweather supporter,' if the team plays well he supports them? This declaration by Mark certainly explains all his negative comments.

Those that are 100% behind the club thru thick and thin are the real suppoters, they are there even when the squad is not producing good football.

Mark talks of his spending a 1,000 a year, like that's any different from what others spend that attend matches, and of course people such as I are second rate supporters because we don't spend what he does, he ignores the fact that it would cost me a 1,000 to see just one match, maybe two if there was a mid week match as well as the saturday one.

I have submitted some 7 or 8 detailed money making ideas to Mr. Barber, how many have you come up with Mark?
Can you hear Markie sing? Nooo, nooo!
Can you hear Markie sing? Nooo, nooo!
Can you hear Markie sing?
I can't hear a flipping thing,
Nooo, nooo, Shhhhhhhh!
Fair weather is better than never, you clown.
[quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: So Mark is a self declared supporter of, 'football first and Brighton second, ' isn't that a polite way of describing a 'fairweather supporter,' if the team plays well he supports them? This declaration by Mark certainly explains all his negative comments. Those that are 100% behind the club thru thick and thin are the real suppoters, they are there even when the squad is not producing good football. Mark talks of his spending a 1,000 a year, like that's any different from what others spend that attend matches, and of course people such as I are second rate supporters because we don't spend what he does, he ignores the fact that it would cost me a 1,000 to see just one match, maybe two if there was a mid week match as well as the saturday one. I have submitted some 7 or 8 detailed money making ideas to Mr. Barber, how many have you come up with Mark?[/p][/quote]Can you hear Markie sing? Nooo, nooo! Can you hear Markie sing? Nooo, nooo! Can you hear Markie sing? I can't hear a flipping thing, Nooo, nooo, Shhhhhhhh![/p][/quote]Fair weather is better than never, you clown. ringtone
  • Score: -3

6:07pm Fri 4 Jul 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
So Mark is a self declared supporter of, 'football first and Brighton second, ' isn't that a polite way of describing a 'fairweather supporter,' if the team plays well he supports them? This declaration by Mark certainly explains all his negative comments.

Those that are 100% behind the club thru thick and thin are the real suppoters, they are there even when the squad is not producing good football.

Mark talks of his spending a 1,000 a year, like that's any different from what others spend that attend matches, and of course people such as I are second rate supporters because we don't spend what he does, he ignores the fact that it would cost me a 1,000 to see just one match, maybe two if there was a mid week match as well as the saturday one.

I have submitted some 7 or 8 detailed money making ideas to Mr. Barber, how many have you come up with Mark?
7-8 money making suggestions? What did he say about them?
Or has he ignored you? Was it not your suggestion for Amex to use pension funds to finance players ! That's probably illegal and the most stupid idea I have heard !
Problem with you followers overseas is ..
You don't have anything to say actually about performance as you don't see them, your whole Albion connection is through the argus, and they appear to be in non contact with the club.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: So Mark is a self declared supporter of, 'football first and Brighton second, ' isn't that a polite way of describing a 'fairweather supporter,' if the team plays well he supports them? This declaration by Mark certainly explains all his negative comments. Those that are 100% behind the club thru thick and thin are the real suppoters, they are there even when the squad is not producing good football. Mark talks of his spending a 1,000 a year, like that's any different from what others spend that attend matches, and of course people such as I are second rate supporters because we don't spend what he does, he ignores the fact that it would cost me a 1,000 to see just one match, maybe two if there was a mid week match as well as the saturday one. I have submitted some 7 or 8 detailed money making ideas to Mr. Barber, how many have you come up with Mark?[/p][/quote]7-8 money making suggestions? What did he say about them? Or has he ignored you? Was it not your suggestion for Amex to use pension funds to finance players ! That's probably illegal and the most stupid idea I have heard ! Problem with you followers overseas is .. You don't have anything to say actually about performance as you don't see them, your whole Albion connection is through the argus, and they appear to be in non contact with the club. mark by the sea
  • Score: -1

6:27pm Fri 4 Jul 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Mark should be, and maybe is, a Southampton fan, not too far to travel, good, 'football,' and lots of transfer action, as I say, maybe he is, it would certainly explain most of his comments.
Actually Vegas I used to watch saints youth when my ex brother in law worked for the club, I was lucky to watch Lallana Bale Walcott , one game I saw had those and Chelsea had Sinclair , bridcutt , plus others who were class, I enjoyed that football as I enjoyed the USA playing the other night,
I love football ! Why else would I watch the Albion in gilligham , at the Amex where we endured years of hoof and rush with little skill.
I was there , whatever the weather, and for those who attended games there will know exactly what I mean, paying £22 to watch rubbish football while freezing rain smashes in your face one of the least enjoyable times!
But you know , I cherish those days, because we were closer to the club then right now, it was our club.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Mark should be, and maybe is, a Southampton fan, not too far to travel, good, 'football,' and lots of transfer action, as I say, maybe he is, it would certainly explain most of his comments.[/p][/quote]Actually Vegas I used to watch saints youth when my ex brother in law worked for the club, I was lucky to watch Lallana Bale Walcott , one game I saw had those and Chelsea had Sinclair , bridcutt , plus others who were class, I enjoyed that football as I enjoyed the USA playing the other night, I love football ! Why else would I watch the Albion in gilligham , at the Amex where we endured years of hoof and rush with little skill. I was there , whatever the weather, and for those who attended games there will know exactly what I mean, paying £22 to watch rubbish football while freezing rain smashes in your face one of the least enjoyable times! But you know , I cherish those days, because we were closer to the club then right now, it was our club. mark by the sea
  • Score: -1

7:18pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Marks says... "Problem with you followers overseas is ..
You don't have anything to say actually about performance as you don't see them"

Ah, you're still using that old chestnut, are you? Pretending that anyone who disagrees with you does so purely because they - in your mind at least - don't watch as many live games as you?

It's about time you made up another reason why you think you're better than everyone else. Trying to demean us on a false premise is weak, and actually demeans you far more.
Marks says... "Problem with you followers overseas is .. You don't have anything to say actually about performance as you don't see them" Ah, you're still using that old chestnut, are you? Pretending that anyone who disagrees with you does so purely because they - in your mind at least - don't watch as many live games as you? It's about time you made up another reason why you think you're better than everyone else. Trying to demean us on a false premise is weak, and actually demeans you far more. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 2

7:36pm Fri 4 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
So Mark is a self declared supporter of, 'football first and Brighton second, ' isn't that a polite way of describing a 'fairweather supporter,' if the team plays well he supports them? This declaration by Mark certainly explains all his negative comments.

Those that are 100% behind the club thru thick and thin are the real suppoters, they are there even when the squad is not producing good football.

Mark talks of his spending a 1,000 a year, like that's any different from what others spend that attend matches, and of course people such as I are second rate supporters because we don't spend what he does, he ignores the fact that it would cost me a 1,000 to see just one match, maybe two if there was a mid week match as well as the saturday one.

I have submitted some 7 or 8 detailed money making ideas to Mr. Barber, how many have you come up with Mark?
7-8 money making suggestions? What did he say about them?
Or has he ignored you? Was it not your suggestion for Amex to use pension funds to finance players ! That's probably illegal and the most stupid idea I have heard !
Problem with you followers overseas is ..
You don't have anything to say actually about performance as you don't see them, your whole Albion connection is through the argus, and they appear to be in non contact with the club.
My ideas were all replied to, sadly one or two were found to be not praticle, and the rest were covered in different ways already.

Yep as you say as an overseas fan I only ever comment on performances I get to watch on TV or my PC, it's the best policy, IMHO. Is it different watching games live, do you get a better feel for how the game went, probably, but what can I or any other expat do about that.

Yep our only real involvment is thru this and other forums, but again what can we do about that, we are just happy to at least have the forums.

My error in mentioning pensions funds as a possible means for investment in the club, yep I realised that I should have said, business development funds, but that correction was made some time ago now, your use of my words is rather dated and as such no longer pertinent.

Mark you have this desire to, maybe a need, to be right, you should find a way to deal with that. You were adamant that Ulloa has a 7 million buy out clause, something that no creditable agency has mentioned, but it gave you the chance to name drop about your supposed contacts. There is a report that the club has already turned down a 7 million bid from Leicester, what does that do to your inside knowledge? Of course we have also heard that 5 million is the highest bid, none of us really knows anything, and that includes you.

With a little effort on your part I think you could add, in a positive way, a lot to the debate, you do, at times, offer good theories, but for the most part you offer your theories as fact, and that is where I have a problem with most of your comments.

You are probably a nice guy, but even nice guys are wrong from time to time, really nice guys know when to put their hands up and say, 'you know what, I got it wrong today,' but in your eyes you are never wrong, that's a pity.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: So Mark is a self declared supporter of, 'football first and Brighton second, ' isn't that a polite way of describing a 'fairweather supporter,' if the team plays well he supports them? This declaration by Mark certainly explains all his negative comments. Those that are 100% behind the club thru thick and thin are the real suppoters, they are there even when the squad is not producing good football. Mark talks of his spending a 1,000 a year, like that's any different from what others spend that attend matches, and of course people such as I are second rate supporters because we don't spend what he does, he ignores the fact that it would cost me a 1,000 to see just one match, maybe two if there was a mid week match as well as the saturday one. I have submitted some 7 or 8 detailed money making ideas to Mr. Barber, how many have you come up with Mark?[/p][/quote]7-8 money making suggestions? What did he say about them? Or has he ignored you? Was it not your suggestion for Amex to use pension funds to finance players ! That's probably illegal and the most stupid idea I have heard ! Problem with you followers overseas is .. You don't have anything to say actually about performance as you don't see them, your whole Albion connection is through the argus, and they appear to be in non contact with the club.[/p][/quote]My ideas were all replied to, sadly one or two were found to be not praticle, and the rest were covered in different ways already. Yep as you say as an overseas fan I only ever comment on performances I get to watch on TV or my PC, it's the best policy, IMHO. Is it different watching games live, do you get a better feel for how the game went, probably, but what can I or any other expat do about that. Yep our only real involvment is thru this and other forums, but again what can we do about that, we are just happy to at least have the forums. My error in mentioning pensions funds as a possible means for investment in the club, yep I realised that I should have said, business development funds, but that correction was made some time ago now, your use of my words is rather dated and as such no longer pertinent. Mark you have this desire to, maybe a need, to be right, you should find a way to deal with that. You were adamant that Ulloa has a 7 million buy out clause, something that no creditable agency has mentioned, but it gave you the chance to name drop about your supposed contacts. There is a report that the club has already turned down a 7 million bid from Leicester, what does that do to your inside knowledge? Of course we have also heard that 5 million is the highest bid, none of us really knows anything, and that includes you. With a little effort on your part I think you could add, in a positive way, a lot to the debate, you do, at times, offer good theories, but for the most part you offer your theories as fact, and that is where I have a problem with most of your comments. You are probably a nice guy, but even nice guys are wrong from time to time, really nice guys know when to put their hands up and say, 'you know what, I got it wrong today,' but in your eyes you are never wrong, that's a pity. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

10:13pm Fri 4 Jul 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

Vegas
Yep as you say as an overseas fan I only ever comment on performances I get to watch on TV or my PC, it's the best policy, IMHO. Is it different watching games live, do you get a better feel for how the game went, probably, but what can I or any other expat do about that.

But you can subscribe to seagulls player,contributing.

Only costs about 40 pounds,and you can listen to every Albion game.
Vegas Yep as you say as an overseas fan I only ever comment on performances I get to watch on TV or my PC, it's the best policy, IMHO. Is it different watching games live, do you get a better feel for how the game went, probably, but what can I or any other expat do about that. But you can subscribe to seagulls player,contributing. Only costs about 40 pounds,and you can listen to every Albion game. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 0

10:53pm Fri 4 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

don't wanna do it like that wrote:
Vegas
Yep as you say as an overseas fan I only ever comment on performances I get to watch on TV or my PC, it's the best policy, IMHO. Is it different watching games live, do you get a better feel for how the game went, probably, but what can I or any other expat do about that.

But you can subscribe to seagulls player,contributing.


Only costs about 40 pounds,and you can listen to every Albion game.
and who is saying that I haven't subscribed.

Just a thought but, as I am in the USA my keyboard doesn't have a pound sign, just a $ one, so I have to type the word, 'pound,' I notice that you also type, 'pound,' are you based outside of the UK?
[quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: Vegas Yep as you say as an overseas fan I only ever comment on performances I get to watch on TV or my PC, it's the best policy, IMHO. Is it different watching games live, do you get a better feel for how the game went, probably, but what can I or any other expat do about that. But you can subscribe to seagulls player,contributing. Only costs about 40 pounds,and you can listen to every Albion game.[/p][/quote]and who is saying that I haven't subscribed. Just a thought but, as I am in the USA my keyboard doesn't have a pound sign, just a $ one, so I have to type the word, 'pound,' I notice that you also type, 'pound,' are you based outside of the UK? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

11:46pm Fri 4 Jul 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
So Mark is a self declared supporter of, 'football first and Brighton second, ' isn't that a polite way of describing a 'fairweather supporter,' if the team plays well he supports them? This declaration by Mark certainly explains all his negative comments.

Those that are 100% behind the club thru thick and thin are the real suppoters, they are there even when the squad is not producing good football.

Mark talks of his spending a 1,000 a year, like that's any different from what others spend that attend matches, and of course people such as I are second rate supporters because we don't spend what he does, he ignores the fact that it would cost me a 1,000 to see just one match, maybe two if there was a mid week match as well as the saturday one.

I have submitted some 7 or 8 detailed money making ideas to Mr. Barber, how many have you come up with Mark?
7-8 money making suggestions? What did he say about them?
Or has he ignored you? Was it not your suggestion for Amex to use pension funds to finance players ! That's probably illegal and the most stupid idea I have heard !
Problem with you followers overseas is ..
You don't have anything to say actually about performance as you don't see them, your whole Albion connection is through the argus, and they appear to be in non contact with the club.
My ideas were all replied to, sadly one or two were found to be not praticle, and the rest were covered in different ways already.

Yep as you say as an overseas fan I only ever comment on performances I get to watch on TV or my PC, it's the best policy, IMHO. Is it different watching games live, do you get a better feel for how the game went, probably, but what can I or any other expat do about that.

Yep our only real involvment is thru this and other forums, but again what can we do about that, we are just happy to at least have the forums.

My error in mentioning pensions funds as a possible means for investment in the club, yep I realised that I should have said, business development funds, but that correction was made some time ago now, your use of my words is rather dated and as such no longer pertinent.

Mark you have this desire to, maybe a need, to be right, you should find a way to deal with that. You were adamant that Ulloa has a 7 million buy out clause, something that no creditable agency has mentioned, but it gave you the chance to name drop about your supposed contacts. There is a report that the club has already turned down a 7 million bid from Leicester, what does that do to your inside knowledge? Of course we have also heard that 5 million is the highest bid, none of us really knows anything, and that includes you.

With a little effort on your part I think you could add, in a positive way, a lot to the debate, you do, at times, offer good theories, but for the most part you offer your theories as fact, and that is where I have a problem with most of your comments.

You are probably a nice guy, but even nice guys are wrong from time to time, really nice guys know when to put their hands up and say, 'you know what, I got it wrong today,' but in your eyes you are never wrong, that's a pity.
So of your 7-8 great ideas ...,... How many have the club taken on?
I give you some of my ideas, the argus used to run a Q&A thing once a week, I suggested getting Gus on or TB , we had both within a week or two.
3 years ago Calderon left the Albion and " joined " saints , Gus stated he would never speak to him again... I heard Calderon was treated very badly at saints during the initial meetings, ... I was the only one who said he would come back.... 6 weeks later caldi misses Gus!
As for ulloa I said in January Leicester had a scout at the Amex, 7.5 million was a figure for release on contract,,, 5 months later that's as good as anyone could get to .. And I get rubbish from people who lick the Albion / argus newes as though this is the gospel!
Please tell me why Gus and OG fell out. ..? Both managers totally different , same result! You would believe anything the argus prints.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: So Mark is a self declared supporter of, 'football first and Brighton second, ' isn't that a polite way of describing a 'fairweather supporter,' if the team plays well he supports them? This declaration by Mark certainly explains all his negative comments. Those that are 100% behind the club thru thick and thin are the real suppoters, they are there even when the squad is not producing good football. Mark talks of his spending a 1,000 a year, like that's any different from what others spend that attend matches, and of course people such as I are second rate supporters because we don't spend what he does, he ignores the fact that it would cost me a 1,000 to see just one match, maybe two if there was a mid week match as well as the saturday one. I have submitted some 7 or 8 detailed money making ideas to Mr. Barber, how many have you come up with Mark?[/p][/quote]7-8 money making suggestions? What did he say about them? Or has he ignored you? Was it not your suggestion for Amex to use pension funds to finance players ! That's probably illegal and the most stupid idea I have heard ! Problem with you followers overseas is .. You don't have anything to say actually about performance as you don't see them, your whole Albion connection is through the argus, and they appear to be in non contact with the club.[/p][/quote]My ideas were all replied to, sadly one or two were found to be not praticle, and the rest were covered in different ways already. Yep as you say as an overseas fan I only ever comment on performances I get to watch on TV or my PC, it's the best policy, IMHO. Is it different watching games live, do you get a better feel for how the game went, probably, but what can I or any other expat do about that. Yep our only real involvment is thru this and other forums, but again what can we do about that, we are just happy to at least have the forums. My error in mentioning pensions funds as a possible means for investment in the club, yep I realised that I should have said, business development funds, but that correction was made some time ago now, your use of my words is rather dated and as such no longer pertinent. Mark you have this desire to, maybe a need, to be right, you should find a way to deal with that. You were adamant that Ulloa has a 7 million buy out clause, something that no creditable agency has mentioned, but it gave you the chance to name drop about your supposed contacts. There is a report that the club has already turned down a 7 million bid from Leicester, what does that do to your inside knowledge? Of course we have also heard that 5 million is the highest bid, none of us really knows anything, and that includes you. With a little effort on your part I think you could add, in a positive way, a lot to the debate, you do, at times, offer good theories, but for the most part you offer your theories as fact, and that is where I have a problem with most of your comments. You are probably a nice guy, but even nice guys are wrong from time to time, really nice guys know when to put their hands up and say, 'you know what, I got it wrong today,' but in your eyes you are never wrong, that's a pity.[/p][/quote]So of your 7-8 great ideas ...,... How many have the club taken on? I give you some of my ideas, the argus used to run a Q&A thing once a week, I suggested getting Gus on or TB , we had both within a week or two. 3 years ago Calderon left the Albion and " joined " saints , Gus stated he would never speak to him again... I heard Calderon was treated very badly at saints during the initial meetings, ... I was the only one who said he would come back.... 6 weeks later caldi misses Gus! As for ulloa I said in January Leicester had a scout at the Amex, 7.5 million was a figure for release on contract,,, 5 months later that's as good as anyone could get to .. And I get rubbish from people who lick the Albion / argus newes as though this is the gospel! Please tell me why Gus and OG fell out. ..? Both managers totally different , same result! You would believe anything the argus prints. mark by the sea
  • Score: -1

12:02am Sat 5 Jul 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
Vegas
Yep as you say as an overseas fan I only ever comment on performances I get to watch on TV or my PC, it's the best policy, IMHO. Is it different watching games live, do you get a better feel for how the game went, probably, but what can I or any other expat do about that.

But you can subscribe to seagulls player,contributing.



Only costs about 40 pounds,and you can listen to every Albion game.
and who is saying that I haven't subscribed.

Just a thought but, as I am in the USA my keyboard doesn't have a pound sign, just a $ one, so I have to type the word, 'pound,' I notice that you also type, 'pound,' are you based outside of the UK?
£ sign portslade.

You actually as you only watch the games.

So have you ???
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: Vegas Yep as you say as an overseas fan I only ever comment on performances I get to watch on TV or my PC, it's the best policy, IMHO. Is it different watching games live, do you get a better feel for how the game went, probably, but what can I or any other expat do about that. But you can subscribe to seagulls player,contributing. Only costs about 40 pounds,and you can listen to every Albion game.[/p][/quote]and who is saying that I haven't subscribed. Just a thought but, as I am in the USA my keyboard doesn't have a pound sign, just a $ one, so I have to type the word, 'pound,' I notice that you also type, 'pound,' are you based outside of the UK?[/p][/quote]£ sign portslade. You actually as you only watch the games. So have you ??? don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 0

12:40am Sat 5 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
So Mark is a self declared supporter of, 'football first and Brighton second, ' isn't that a polite way of describing a 'fairweather supporter,' if the team plays well he supports them? This declaration by Mark certainly explains all his negative comments.

Those that are 100% behind the club thru thick and thin are the real suppoters, they are there even when the squad is not producing good football.

Mark talks of his spending a 1,000 a year, like that's any different from what others spend that attend matches, and of course people such as I are second rate supporters because we don't spend what he does, he ignores the fact that it would cost me a 1,000 to see just one match, maybe two if there was a mid week match as well as the saturday one.

I have submitted some 7 or 8 detailed money making ideas to Mr. Barber, how many have you come up with Mark?
7-8 money making suggestions? What did he say about them?
Or has he ignored you? Was it not your suggestion for Amex to use pension funds to finance players ! That's probably illegal and the most stupid idea I have heard !
Problem with you followers overseas is ..
You don't have anything to say actually about performance as you don't see them, your whole Albion connection is through the argus, and they appear to be in non contact with the club.
My ideas were all replied to, sadly one or two were found to be not praticle, and the rest were covered in different ways already.

Yep as you say as an overseas fan I only ever comment on performances I get to watch on TV or my PC, it's the best policy, IMHO. Is it different watching games live, do you get a better feel for how the game went, probably, but what can I or any other expat do about that.

Yep our only real involvment is thru this and other forums, but again what can we do about that, we are just happy to at least have the forums.

My error in mentioning pensions funds as a possible means for investment in the club, yep I realised that I should have said, business development funds, but that correction was made some time ago now, your use of my words is rather dated and as such no longer pertinent.

Mark you have this desire to, maybe a need, to be right, you should find a way to deal with that. You were adamant that Ulloa has a 7 million buy out clause, something that no creditable agency has mentioned, but it gave you the chance to name drop about your supposed contacts. There is a report that the club has already turned down a 7 million bid from Leicester, what does that do to your inside knowledge? Of course we have also heard that 5 million is the highest bid, none of us really knows anything, and that includes you.

With a little effort on your part I think you could add, in a positive way, a lot to the debate, you do, at times, offer good theories, but for the most part you offer your theories as fact, and that is where I have a problem with most of your comments.

You are probably a nice guy, but even nice guys are wrong from time to time, really nice guys know when to put their hands up and say, 'you know what, I got it wrong today,' but in your eyes you are never wrong, that's a pity.
So of your 7-8 great ideas ...,... How many have the club taken on?
I give you some of my ideas, the argus used to run a Q&A thing once a week, I suggested getting Gus on or TB , we had both within a week or two.
3 years ago Calderon left the Albion and " joined " saints , Gus stated he would never speak to him again... I heard Calderon was treated very badly at saints during the initial meetings, ... I was the only one who said he would come back.... 6 weeks later caldi misses Gus!
As for ulloa I said in January Leicester had a scout at the Amex, 7.5 million was a figure for release on contract,,, 5 months later that's as good as anyone could get to .. And I get rubbish from people who lick the Albion / argus newes as though this is the gospel!
Please tell me why Gus and OG fell out. ..? Both managers totally different , same result! You would believe anything the argus prints.
As I said Mark, you have this desperate need to be told that you are right, that you not only know better but that you actualy are better, than others on this forum.
You say that we shouldn't take what the club says, or Argus prints, as gospel, but you want us to hang to, 'your,' every word. Mark you have built your own pedestal way too high, you need to climb down a step or two and join us poor mortals. As I said before, you are probably a nice guy but man, you are so far up yourself at times I cringe reading your comments.

Tell me, were you bullied at school, were you a victim of something nasty, do you feel safer behind a user name and a password?
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: So Mark is a self declared supporter of, 'football first and Brighton second, ' isn't that a polite way of describing a 'fairweather supporter,' if the team plays well he supports them? This declaration by Mark certainly explains all his negative comments. Those that are 100% behind the club thru thick and thin are the real suppoters, they are there even when the squad is not producing good football. Mark talks of his spending a 1,000 a year, like that's any different from what others spend that attend matches, and of course people such as I are second rate supporters because we don't spend what he does, he ignores the fact that it would cost me a 1,000 to see just one match, maybe two if there was a mid week match as well as the saturday one. I have submitted some 7 or 8 detailed money making ideas to Mr. Barber, how many have you come up with Mark?[/p][/quote]7-8 money making suggestions? What did he say about them? Or has he ignored you? Was it not your suggestion for Amex to use pension funds to finance players ! That's probably illegal and the most stupid idea I have heard ! Problem with you followers overseas is .. You don't have anything to say actually about performance as you don't see them, your whole Albion connection is through the argus, and they appear to be in non contact with the club.[/p][/quote]My ideas were all replied to, sadly one or two were found to be not praticle, and the rest were covered in different ways already. Yep as you say as an overseas fan I only ever comment on performances I get to watch on TV or my PC, it's the best policy, IMHO. Is it different watching games live, do you get a better feel for how the game went, probably, but what can I or any other expat do about that. Yep our only real involvment is thru this and other forums, but again what can we do about that, we are just happy to at least have the forums. My error in mentioning pensions funds as a possible means for investment in the club, yep I realised that I should have said, business development funds, but that correction was made some time ago now, your use of my words is rather dated and as such no longer pertinent. Mark you have this desire to, maybe a need, to be right, you should find a way to deal with that. You were adamant that Ulloa has a 7 million buy out clause, something that no creditable agency has mentioned, but it gave you the chance to name drop about your supposed contacts. There is a report that the club has already turned down a 7 million bid from Leicester, what does that do to your inside knowledge? Of course we have also heard that 5 million is the highest bid, none of us really knows anything, and that includes you. With a little effort on your part I think you could add, in a positive way, a lot to the debate, you do, at times, offer good theories, but for the most part you offer your theories as fact, and that is where I have a problem with most of your comments. You are probably a nice guy, but even nice guys are wrong from time to time, really nice guys know when to put their hands up and say, 'you know what, I got it wrong today,' but in your eyes you are never wrong, that's a pity.[/p][/quote]So of your 7-8 great ideas ...,... How many have the club taken on? I give you some of my ideas, the argus used to run a Q&A thing once a week, I suggested getting Gus on or TB , we had both within a week or two. 3 years ago Calderon left the Albion and " joined " saints , Gus stated he would never speak to him again... I heard Calderon was treated very badly at saints during the initial meetings, ... I was the only one who said he would come back.... 6 weeks later caldi misses Gus! As for ulloa I said in January Leicester had a scout at the Amex, 7.5 million was a figure for release on contract,,, 5 months later that's as good as anyone could get to .. And I get rubbish from people who lick the Albion / argus newes as though this is the gospel! Please tell me why Gus and OG fell out. ..? Both managers totally different , same result! You would believe anything the argus prints.[/p][/quote]As I said Mark, you have this desperate need to be told that you are right, that you not only know better but that you actualy are better, than others on this forum. You say that we shouldn't take what the club says, or Argus prints, as gospel, but you want us to hang to, 'your,' every word. Mark you have built your own pedestal way too high, you need to climb down a step or two and join us poor mortals. As I said before, you are probably a nice guy but man, you are so far up yourself at times I cringe reading your comments. Tell me, were you bullied at school, were you a victim of something nasty, do you feel safer behind a user name and a password? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

5:22am Sat 5 Jul 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
So Mark is a self declared supporter of, 'football first and Brighton second, ' isn't that a polite way of describing a 'fairweather supporter,' if the team plays well he supports them? This declaration by Mark certainly explains all his negative comments.

Those that are 100% behind the club thru thick and thin are the real suppoters, they are there even when the squad is not producing good football.

Mark talks of his spending a 1,000 a year, like that's any different from what others spend that attend matches, and of course people such as I are second rate supporters because we don't spend what he does, he ignores the fact that it would cost me a 1,000 to see just one match, maybe two if there was a mid week match as well as the saturday one.

I have submitted some 7 or 8 detailed money making ideas to Mr. Barber, how many have you come up with Mark?
7-8 money making suggestions? What did he say about them?
Or has he ignored you? Was it not your suggestion for Amex to use pension funds to finance players ! That's probably illegal and the most stupid idea I have heard !
Problem with you followers overseas is ..
You don't have anything to say actually about performance as you don't see them, your whole Albion connection is through the argus, and they appear to be in non contact with the club.
My ideas were all replied to, sadly one or two were found to be not praticle, and the rest were covered in different ways already.

Yep as you say as an overseas fan I only ever comment on performances I get to watch on TV or my PC, it's the best policy, IMHO. Is it different watching games live, do you get a better feel for how the game went, probably, but what can I or any other expat do about that.

Yep our only real involvment is thru this and other forums, but again what can we do about that, we are just happy to at least have the forums.

My error in mentioning pensions funds as a possible means for investment in the club, yep I realised that I should have said, business development funds, but that correction was made some time ago now, your use of my words is rather dated and as such no longer pertinent.

Mark you have this desire to, maybe a need, to be right, you should find a way to deal with that. You were adamant that Ulloa has a 7 million buy out clause, something that no creditable agency has mentioned, but it gave you the chance to name drop about your supposed contacts. There is a report that the club has already turned down a 7 million bid from Leicester, what does that do to your inside knowledge? Of course we have also heard that 5 million is the highest bid, none of us really knows anything, and that includes you.

With a little effort on your part I think you could add, in a positive way, a lot to the debate, you do, at times, offer good theories, but for the most part you offer your theories as fact, and that is where I have a problem with most of your comments.

You are probably a nice guy, but even nice guys are wrong from time to time, really nice guys know when to put their hands up and say, 'you know what, I got it wrong today,' but in your eyes you are never wrong, that's a pity.
So of your 7-8 great ideas ...,... How many have the club taken on?
I give you some of my ideas, the argus used to run a Q&A thing once a week, I suggested getting Gus on or TB , we had both within a week or two.
3 years ago Calderon left the Albion and " joined " saints , Gus stated he would never speak to him again... I heard Calderon was treated very badly at saints during the initial meetings, ... I was the only one who said he would come back.... 6 weeks later caldi misses Gus!
As for ulloa I said in January Leicester had a scout at the Amex, 7.5 million was a figure for release on contract,,, 5 months later that's as good as anyone could get to .. And I get rubbish from people who lick the Albion / argus newes as though this is the gospel!
Please tell me why Gus and OG fell out. ..? Both managers totally different , same result! You would believe anything the argus prints.
As I said Mark, you have this desperate need to be told that you are right, that you not only know better but that you actualy are better, than others on this forum.
You say that we shouldn't take what the club says, or Argus prints, as gospel, but you want us to hang to, 'your,' every word. Mark you have built your own pedestal way too high, you need to climb down a step or two and join us poor mortals. As I said before, you are probably a nice guy but man, you are so far up yourself at times I cringe reading your comments.

Tell me, were you bullied at school, were you a victim of something nasty, do you feel safer behind a user name and a password?
That's it Vegas, your only news comes from the argus, nothing else, so unless you believe everything it's pointless..
I don't want to be in your little yes man club, have you ever been critical of the club? They have made a mess up over last 15 months, everyone including me thought Gus had got to big for his boots, Oscar was the golden boy in your eyes, I think you said OG would have his own players in this summer once he settled in, the guy had 6 players on a his wanted list, and the club did nothing to bring them in, he was given Lita , obika and the final straw was being given Lingard with the proviso he plays if fit! That is a insult to any manager, at any club ... Imagine that at palace! We would be laughing our heads off! But you don't question that, you just suck up and defend , you then poor doubt on anything possibly someone says which seems negative.
I think someone even said OG was home sick!
Do you have anything better to do than attack me because I have a point of view ?
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: So Mark is a self declared supporter of, 'football first and Brighton second, ' isn't that a polite way of describing a 'fairweather supporter,' if the team plays well he supports them? This declaration by Mark certainly explains all his negative comments. Those that are 100% behind the club thru thick and thin are the real suppoters, they are there even when the squad is not producing good football. Mark talks of his spending a 1,000 a year, like that's any different from what others spend that attend matches, and of course people such as I are second rate supporters because we don't spend what he does, he ignores the fact that it would cost me a 1,000 to see just one match, maybe two if there was a mid week match as well as the saturday one. I have submitted some 7 or 8 detailed money making ideas to Mr. Barber, how many have you come up with Mark?[/p][/quote]7-8 money making suggestions? What did he say about them? Or has he ignored you? Was it not your suggestion for Amex to use pension funds to finance players ! That's probably illegal and the most stupid idea I have heard ! Problem with you followers overseas is .. You don't have anything to say actually about performance as you don't see them, your whole Albion connection is through the argus, and they appear to be in non contact with the club.[/p][/quote]My ideas were all replied to, sadly one or two were found to be not praticle, and the rest were covered in different ways already. Yep as you say as an overseas fan I only ever comment on performances I get to watch on TV or my PC, it's the best policy, IMHO. Is it different watching games live, do you get a better feel for how the game went, probably, but what can I or any other expat do about that. Yep our only real involvment is thru this and other forums, but again what can we do about that, we are just happy to at least have the forums. My error in mentioning pensions funds as a possible means for investment in the club, yep I realised that I should have said, business development funds, but that correction was made some time ago now, your use of my words is rather dated and as such no longer pertinent. Mark you have this desire to, maybe a need, to be right, you should find a way to deal with that. You were adamant that Ulloa has a 7 million buy out clause, something that no creditable agency has mentioned, but it gave you the chance to name drop about your supposed contacts. There is a report that the club has already turned down a 7 million bid from Leicester, what does that do to your inside knowledge? Of course we have also heard that 5 million is the highest bid, none of us really knows anything, and that includes you. With a little effort on your part I think you could add, in a positive way, a lot to the debate, you do, at times, offer good theories, but for the most part you offer your theories as fact, and that is where I have a problem with most of your comments. You are probably a nice guy, but even nice guys are wrong from time to time, really nice guys know when to put their hands up and say, 'you know what, I got it wrong today,' but in your eyes you are never wrong, that's a pity.[/p][/quote]So of your 7-8 great ideas ...,... How many have the club taken on? I give you some of my ideas, the argus used to run a Q&A thing once a week, I suggested getting Gus on or TB , we had both within a week or two. 3 years ago Calderon left the Albion and " joined " saints , Gus stated he would never speak to him again... I heard Calderon was treated very badly at saints during the initial meetings, ... I was the only one who said he would come back.... 6 weeks later caldi misses Gus! As for ulloa I said in January Leicester had a scout at the Amex, 7.5 million was a figure for release on contract,,, 5 months later that's as good as anyone could get to .. And I get rubbish from people who lick the Albion / argus newes as though this is the gospel! Please tell me why Gus and OG fell out. ..? Both managers totally different , same result! You would believe anything the argus prints.[/p][/quote]As I said Mark, you have this desperate need to be told that you are right, that you not only know better but that you actualy are better, than others on this forum. You say that we shouldn't take what the club says, or Argus prints, as gospel, but you want us to hang to, 'your,' every word. Mark you have built your own pedestal way too high, you need to climb down a step or two and join us poor mortals. As I said before, you are probably a nice guy but man, you are so far up yourself at times I cringe reading your comments. Tell me, were you bullied at school, were you a victim of something nasty, do you feel safer behind a user name and a password?[/p][/quote]That's it Vegas, your only news comes from the argus, nothing else, so unless you believe everything it's pointless.. I don't want to be in your little yes man club, have you ever been critical of the club? They have made a mess up over last 15 months, everyone including me thought Gus had got to big for his boots, Oscar was the golden boy in your eyes, I think you said OG would have his own players in this summer once he settled in, the guy had 6 players on a his wanted list, and the club did nothing to bring them in, he was given Lita , obika and the final straw was being given Lingard with the proviso he plays if fit! That is a insult to any manager, at any club ... Imagine that at palace! We would be laughing our heads off! But you don't question that, you just suck up and defend , you then poor doubt on anything possibly someone says which seems negative. I think someone even said OG was home sick! Do you have anything better to do than attack me because I have a point of view ? mark by the sea
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"Do you have anything better to do than attack me because I have a point of view ?"
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