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Albion striker Macca hungry to make up for lost time

The Argus: Craig Mackail-Smith shields the ball during last Saturday's friendly at Lewes Craig Mackail-Smith shields the ball during last Saturday's friendly at Lewes

Craig Mackail-Smith insists being out for so long through injury has fuelled his hunger to do well for Albion.

The Scotland striker is hoping to play a full part in Sami Hyypia’s first campaign as Seagulls boss.

It has been a frustrating period in the career of the forward who joined Albion for an initial £2.5million from Peterborough in 2011.

Mackail-Smith scored ten goals in his debut season with the club but, having improved on that by one in 2012-13, he suffered a ruptured Achilles in a game with Bristol City in March 2013 which ruled him out for 13 months.

The 30-year-old returned at the back end of last season, making seven substitute appearances, including coming on in both play-off semi-final legs against Derby County.

He is still working closely with Albion’s physio to regain maximum fitness but admits the agonising period on the sidelines has acted as a spur to put himself back into contention for a starting place under new manager Hyypia.

Mackail-Smith told The Argus: “I just want to enjoy the season because I have missed so much football.

“The first two seasons (at Albion), I tried too hard and I let everything get to me when it wasn’t going well so the injury was a good kick up the backside.

“It made me realise I want to enjoy football, because it can be taken away too quickly.

“I just want to get fit, make sure I get through pre-season well and relax, score lots of goals and hopefully help Brighton to promotion.”

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5:59am Tue 8 Jul 14

pannell1 says...

Latest romour is that cms is wanted by wait for it sunderland not a day gos by when a certain ex manager rears his ugly head well i hope it not true i feel cms has a lot to give the albion and hopeful this season
Latest romour is that cms is wanted by wait for it sunderland not a day gos by when a certain ex manager rears his ugly head well i hope it not true i feel cms has a lot to give the albion and hopeful this season pannell1
  • Score: 20

6:17am Tue 8 Jul 14

JeffLomer says...

Morning, Let's hope Craig has a injury free season and he and Leo can form a lethal partnership up front together,
Up the Albion!!
Morning, Let's hope Craig has a injury free season and he and Leo can form a lethal partnership up front together, Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 23

6:30am Tue 8 Jul 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

pannell1 wrote:
Latest romour is that cms is wanted by wait for it sunderland not a day gos by when a certain ex manager rears his ugly head well i hope it not true i feel cms has a lot to give the albion and hopeful this season
Agreed. CMS is a hard working honest pro. It would be a shame if he was to leave just when he's starting to look good. What with Will Hoskins being released immediately on recovery it would be a real shame if we rehabilitated anyone else for another team's benefit.

Also agree with Jeff's comment about the partnership with Leo. I and many others, I know, have waited what seems like a long time to see them get a decent time together and I can only see good things if Leo's strength is complemented by Macca's industry buzzing around him, with either one capable of burying it. Could well be that a pairing like this is just what Ulloa needs to spark him off again and he certainly seemed to be missing the support during the second half of last season.

UTA!!
[quote][p][bold]pannell1[/bold] wrote: Latest romour is that cms is wanted by wait for it sunderland not a day gos by when a certain ex manager rears his ugly head well i hope it not true i feel cms has a lot to give the albion and hopeful this season[/p][/quote]Agreed. CMS is a hard working honest pro. It would be a shame if he was to leave just when he's starting to look good. What with Will Hoskins being released immediately on recovery it would be a real shame if we rehabilitated anyone else for another team's benefit. Also agree with Jeff's comment about the partnership with Leo. I and many others, I know, have waited what seems like a long time to see them get a decent time together and I can only see good things if Leo's strength is complemented by Macca's industry buzzing around him, with either one capable of burying it. Could well be that a pairing like this is just what Ulloa needs to spark him off again and he certainly seemed to be missing the support during the second half of last season. UTA!! Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 14

7:20am Tue 8 Jul 14

mark5 says...

Agree with everyone above. I doubt he will leave for Sunderland as he is not a premiership standard player and must surely be considered a back up player, if the Poyet connection is true. I am sure he just wants to play football, after a long lay off and get his mojo back. Staying with us and making his mark under a new manager, is the way to get himself back in the public eye, not warming a bench (at best) for his old boss, who let's face it, never played CMS to his best strength and in my opinion let him down big time!
Agree with everyone above. I doubt he will leave for Sunderland as he is not a premiership standard player and must surely be considered a back up player, if the Poyet connection is true. I am sure he just wants to play football, after a long lay off and get his mojo back. Staying with us and making his mark under a new manager, is the way to get himself back in the public eye, not warming a bench (at best) for his old boss, who let's face it, never played CMS to his best strength and in my opinion let him down big time! mark5
  • Score: 16

7:26am Tue 8 Jul 14

JeffLomer says...

On another note did someone say we might bring Jesse back on loan, let's hope he comes back without the clause this time not insisting he starts every game, I would rather see a fit Craig and Leo if still here up front for us, Jesse yes clause no thanx, if united insist on it then I personally would say no thanx were let Hyppia pick his starting eleven not united,
Up the Albion!!
On another note did someone say we might bring Jesse back on loan, let's hope he comes back without the clause this time not insisting he starts every game, I would rather see a fit Craig and Leo if still here up front for us, Jesse yes clause no thanx, if united insist on it then I personally would say no thanx were let Hyppia pick his starting eleven not united, Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 21

7:50am Tue 8 Jul 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

CMS has not lived up to his 3.25 million fee, if some club wants him then sell and put the money towards some better players. If Gus wants him then do a swap for Connor Wickham, simple. Not McCormack though, he's gone to Fulham for 11 million, disappointing we didn't outbid them I'm sure we could if we tried. The best players don't seem to come here, don't know why they wouldn't with the training complex, the stadium, the Marina village and the pier. Really need to sell the club to them a bit better.
CMS has not lived up to his 3.25 million fee, if some club wants him then sell and put the money towards some better players. If Gus wants him then do a swap for Connor Wickham, simple. Not McCormack though, he's gone to Fulham for 11 million, disappointing we didn't outbid them I'm sure we could if we tried. The best players don't seem to come here, don't know why they wouldn't with the training complex, the stadium, the Marina village and the pier. Really need to sell the club to them a bit better. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -39

7:54am Tue 8 Jul 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
CMS has not lived up to his 3.25 million fee, if some club wants him then sell and put the money towards some better players. If Gus wants him then do a swap for Connor Wickham, simple. Not McCormack though, he's gone to Fulham for 11 million, disappointing we didn't outbid them I'm sure we could if we tried. The best players don't seem to come here, don't know why they wouldn't with the training complex, the stadium, the Marina village and the pier. Really need to sell the club to them a bit better.
Yes, yes Mr Brittas! Maybe a fee pass to the pier amusements with every new contract.
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: CMS has not lived up to his 3.25 million fee, if some club wants him then sell and put the money towards some better players. If Gus wants him then do a swap for Connor Wickham, simple. Not McCormack though, he's gone to Fulham for 11 million, disappointing we didn't outbid them I'm sure we could if we tried. The best players don't seem to come here, don't know why they wouldn't with the training complex, the stadium, the Marina village and the pier. Really need to sell the club to them a bit better.[/p][/quote]Yes, yes Mr Brittas! Maybe a fee pass to the pier amusements with every new contract. Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 12

8:01am Tue 8 Jul 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
CMS has not lived up to his 3.25 million fee, if some club wants him then sell and put the money towards some better players. If Gus wants him then do a swap for Connor Wickham, simple. Not McCormack though, he's gone to Fulham for 11 million, disappointing we didn't outbid them I'm sure we could if we tried. The best players don't seem to come here, don't know why they wouldn't with the training complex, the stadium, the Marina village and the pier. Really need to sell the club to them a bit better.
Of anyone on here, you really do have the most unrealistic views on Albion's progress. Do you do it on purpose? At least the other pessimists base their opinions on reality rather than your computer game approach.
Swap CMS for Wickham. 'Click' Done.
And as for outbidding a club prepared to pay 10M for a player; illogical at best.
And for the record, this is the last time I'm going to 'bite'.
I'm looking forward to seeing CMS back to his best and to a manager prepared to play him to his strengths. He could surprise a few this season - including you.
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: CMS has not lived up to his 3.25 million fee, if some club wants him then sell and put the money towards some better players. If Gus wants him then do a swap for Connor Wickham, simple. Not McCormack though, he's gone to Fulham for 11 million, disappointing we didn't outbid them I'm sure we could if we tried. The best players don't seem to come here, don't know why they wouldn't with the training complex, the stadium, the Marina village and the pier. Really need to sell the club to them a bit better.[/p][/quote]Of anyone on here, you really do have the most unrealistic views on Albion's progress. Do you do it on purpose? At least the other pessimists base their opinions on reality rather than your computer game approach. Swap CMS for Wickham. 'Click' Done. And as for outbidding a club prepared to pay 10M for a player; illogical at best. And for the record, this is the last time I'm going to 'bite'. I'm looking forward to seeing CMS back to his best and to a manager prepared to play him to his strengths. He could surprise a few this season - including you. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 21

8:03am Tue 8 Jul 14

daughter-of-manag says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
CMS has not lived up to his 3.25 million fee, if some club wants him then sell and put the money towards some better players. If Gus wants him then do a swap for Connor Wickham, simple. Not McCormack though, he's gone to Fulham for 11 million, disappointing we didn't outbid them I'm sure we could if we tried. The best players don't seem to come here, don't know why they wouldn't with the training complex, the stadium, the Marina village and the pier. Really need to sell the club to them a bit better.
Mayfield - you are hilarious - "the pier" has gotta be my favorite quote from you ever! I can see Connor Wickham forsaking his big weekly wage for a stick of rock, a walk through the Lanes, and a trip to the pier.
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: CMS has not lived up to his 3.25 million fee, if some club wants him then sell and put the money towards some better players. If Gus wants him then do a swap for Connor Wickham, simple. Not McCormack though, he's gone to Fulham for 11 million, disappointing we didn't outbid them I'm sure we could if we tried. The best players don't seem to come here, don't know why they wouldn't with the training complex, the stadium, the Marina village and the pier. Really need to sell the club to them a bit better.[/p][/quote]Mayfield - you are hilarious - "the pier" has gotta be my favorite quote from you ever! I can see Connor Wickham forsaking his big weekly wage for a stick of rock, a walk through the Lanes, and a trip to the pier. daughter-of-manag
  • Score: 16

8:07am Tue 8 Jul 14

Ripe seagull. says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
CMS has not lived up to his 3.25 million fee, if some club wants him then sell and put the money towards some better players. If Gus wants him then do a swap for Connor Wickham, simple. Not McCormack though, he's gone to Fulham for 11 million, disappointing we didn't outbid them I'm sure we could if we tried. The best players don't seem to come here, don't know why they wouldn't with the training complex, the stadium, the Marina village and the pier. Really need to sell the club to them a bit better.
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
aaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwww
wwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnn
nn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: CMS has not lived up to his 3.25 million fee, if some club wants him then sell and put the money towards some better players. If Gus wants him then do a swap for Connor Wickham, simple. Not McCormack though, he's gone to Fulham for 11 million, disappointing we didn't outbid them I'm sure we could if we tried. The best players don't seem to come here, don't know why they wouldn't with the training complex, the stadium, the Marina village and the pier. Really need to sell the club to them a bit better.[/p][/quote]Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwww wwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnn nn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ripe seagull.
  • Score: 7

8:16am Tue 8 Jul 14

Beale32 says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
CMS has not lived up to his 3.25 million fee, if some club wants him then sell and put the money towards some better players. If Gus wants him then do a swap for Connor Wickham, simple. Not McCormack though, he's gone to Fulham for 11 million, disappointing we didn't outbid them I'm sure we could if we tried. The best players don't seem to come here, don't know why they wouldn't with the training complex, the stadium, the Marina village and the pier. Really need to sell the club to them a bit better.
You bore me. Although you do get reactions that you are looking for.
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: CMS has not lived up to his 3.25 million fee, if some club wants him then sell and put the money towards some better players. If Gus wants him then do a swap for Connor Wickham, simple. Not McCormack though, he's gone to Fulham for 11 million, disappointing we didn't outbid them I'm sure we could if we tried. The best players don't seem to come here, don't know why they wouldn't with the training complex, the stadium, the Marina village and the pier. Really need to sell the club to them a bit better.[/p][/quote]You bore me. Although you do get reactions that you are looking for. Beale32
  • Score: 6

8:30am Tue 8 Jul 14

JeffLomer says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
CMS has not lived up to his 3.25 million fee, if some club wants him then sell and put the money towards some better players. If Gus wants him then do a swap for Connor Wickham, simple. Not McCormack though, he's gone to Fulham for 11 million, disappointing we didn't outbid them I'm sure we could if we tried. The best players don't seem to come here, don't know why they wouldn't with the training complex, the stadium, the Marina village and the pier. Really need to sell the club to them a bit better.
Of anyone on here, you really do have the most unrealistic views on Albion's progress. Do you do it on purpose? At least the other pessimists base their opinions on reality rather than your computer game approach.
Swap CMS for Wickham. 'Click' Done.
And as for outbidding a club prepared to pay 10M for a player; illogical at best.
And for the record, this is the last time I'm going to 'bite'.
I'm looking forward to seeing CMS back to his best and to a manager prepared to play him to his strengths. He could surprise a few this season - including you.
I'm looking forward to his reply, how can someone be so negative about the team they support, season not started yet!!
Up the Albion!!
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: CMS has not lived up to his 3.25 million fee, if some club wants him then sell and put the money towards some better players. If Gus wants him then do a swap for Connor Wickham, simple. Not McCormack though, he's gone to Fulham for 11 million, disappointing we didn't outbid them I'm sure we could if we tried. The best players don't seem to come here, don't know why they wouldn't with the training complex, the stadium, the Marina village and the pier. Really need to sell the club to them a bit better.[/p][/quote]Of anyone on here, you really do have the most unrealistic views on Albion's progress. Do you do it on purpose? At least the other pessimists base their opinions on reality rather than your computer game approach. Swap CMS for Wickham. 'Click' Done. And as for outbidding a club prepared to pay 10M for a player; illogical at best. And for the record, this is the last time I'm going to 'bite'. I'm looking forward to seeing CMS back to his best and to a manager prepared to play him to his strengths. He could surprise a few this season - including you.[/p][/quote]I'm looking forward to his reply, how can someone be so negative about the team they support, season not started yet!! Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 3

8:51am Tue 8 Jul 14

Ripe seagull. says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
CMS has not lived up to his 3.25 million fee, if some club wants him then sell and put the money towards some better players. If Gus wants him then do a swap for Connor Wickham, simple. Not McCormack though, he's gone to Fulham for 11 million, disappointing we didn't outbid them I'm sure we could if we tried. The best players don't seem to come here, don't know why they wouldn't with the training complex, the stadium, the Marina village and the pier. Really need to sell the club to them a bit better.
Of anyone on here, you really do have the most unrealistic views on Albion's progress. Do you do it on purpose? At least the other pessimists base their opinions on reality rather than your computer game approach.
Swap CMS for Wickham. 'Click' Done.
And as for outbidding a club prepared to pay 10M for a player; illogical at best.
And for the record, this is the last time I'm going to 'bite'.
I'm looking forward to seeing CMS back to his best and to a manager prepared to play him to his strengths. He could surprise a few this season - including you.
I'm looking forward to his reply, how can someone be so negative about the team they support, season not started yet!!
Up the Albion!!
Errr.... It's a p***** fan!
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: CMS has not lived up to his 3.25 million fee, if some club wants him then sell and put the money towards some better players. If Gus wants him then do a swap for Connor Wickham, simple. Not McCormack though, he's gone to Fulham for 11 million, disappointing we didn't outbid them I'm sure we could if we tried. The best players don't seem to come here, don't know why they wouldn't with the training complex, the stadium, the Marina village and the pier. Really need to sell the club to them a bit better.[/p][/quote]Of anyone on here, you really do have the most unrealistic views on Albion's progress. Do you do it on purpose? At least the other pessimists base their opinions on reality rather than your computer game approach. Swap CMS for Wickham. 'Click' Done. And as for outbidding a club prepared to pay 10M for a player; illogical at best. And for the record, this is the last time I'm going to 'bite'. I'm looking forward to seeing CMS back to his best and to a manager prepared to play him to his strengths. He could surprise a few this season - including you.[/p][/quote]I'm looking forward to his reply, how can someone be so negative about the team they support, season not started yet!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]Errr.... It's a p***** fan! Ripe seagull.
  • Score: 6

8:56am Tue 8 Jul 14

namgo49 says...

JeffLomer wrote:
On another note did someone say we might bring Jesse back on loan, let's hope he comes back without the clause this time not insisting he starts every game, I would rather see a fit Craig and Leo if still here up front for us, Jesse yes clause no thanx, if united insist on it then I personally would say no thanx were let Hyppia pick his starting eleven not united,
Up the Albion!!
I would not be happy if he came back. The clause would be the same and if anything would drive LU through the exit door it would be the reappearance of JL!!!
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: On another note did someone say we might bring Jesse back on loan, let's hope he comes back without the clause this time not insisting he starts every game, I would rather see a fit Craig and Leo if still here up front for us, Jesse yes clause no thanx, if united insist on it then I personally would say no thanx were let Hyppia pick his starting eleven not united, Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]I would not be happy if he came back. The clause would be the same and if anything would drive LU through the exit door it would be the reappearance of JL!!! namgo49
  • Score: -6

9:14am Tue 8 Jul 14

JeffLomer says...

namgo49 wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
On another note did someone say we might bring Jesse back on loan, let's hope he comes back without the clause this time not insisting he starts every game, I would rather see a fit Craig and Leo if still here up front for us, Jesse yes clause no thanx, if united insist on it then I personally would say no thanx were let Hyppia pick his starting eleven not united,
Up the Albion!!
I would not be happy if he came back. The clause would be the same and if anything would drive LU through the exit door it would be the reappearance of JL!!!
I don't agree Leo would leave if he came back, I just don't think there should be a clause put in telling us he has to start every game,
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: On another note did someone say we might bring Jesse back on loan, let's hope he comes back without the clause this time not insisting he starts every game, I would rather see a fit Craig and Leo if still here up front for us, Jesse yes clause no thanx, if united insist on it then I personally would say no thanx were let Hyppia pick his starting eleven not united, Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]I would not be happy if he came back. The clause would be the same and if anything would drive LU through the exit door it would be the reappearance of JL!!![/p][/quote]I don't agree Leo would leave if he came back, I just don't think there should be a clause put in telling us he has to start every game, JeffLomer
  • Score: 5

9:29am Tue 8 Jul 14

gilbertthecat says...

AIS - there's lots of people on here will remind you of your words to MS about not biting again should you get hooked once more! Not sure but he's not really up to the level of the poster formally known as Freeloaders (aka many other names).
AIS - there's lots of people on here will remind you of your words to MS about not biting again should you get hooked once more! Not sure but he's not really up to the level of the poster formally known as Freeloaders (aka many other names). gilbertthecat
  • Score: 1

9:35am Tue 8 Jul 14

gilbertthecat says...

JeffLomer wrote:
namgo49 wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
On another note did someone say we might bring Jesse back on loan, let's hope he comes back without the clause this time not insisting he starts every game, I would rather see a fit Craig and Leo if still here up front for us, Jesse yes clause no thanx, if united insist on it then I personally would say no thanx were let Hyppia pick his starting eleven not united,
Up the Albion!!
I would not be happy if he came back. The clause would be the same and if anything would drive LU through the exit door it would be the reappearance of JL!!!
I don't agree Leo would leave if he came back, I just don't think there should be a clause put in telling us he has to start every game,
I don't think LU would let the return appearance of a loanee affect his decision to stay or otherwise. It might be part of a bigger picture that he could see but we can't and that's what we should be aware of. JL coming back could be a good thing but, as per others' comments, not with the appearance clause. It seems clear though that the club are looking for a striker to come in and equally clear that such a player would be back up for LU (as long as he's here of course). It would be good to have him back though not least because the money required to buy a decent striker may still be needed in central defensive acquisitions or midfield creativity and playmaking. Time will tell. Who knows, maybe SH will come back from Spain with a couple of new faces ;-)
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: On another note did someone say we might bring Jesse back on loan, let's hope he comes back without the clause this time not insisting he starts every game, I would rather see a fit Craig and Leo if still here up front for us, Jesse yes clause no thanx, if united insist on it then I personally would say no thanx were let Hyppia pick his starting eleven not united, Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]I would not be happy if he came back. The clause would be the same and if anything would drive LU through the exit door it would be the reappearance of JL!!![/p][/quote]I don't agree Leo would leave if he came back, I just don't think there should be a clause put in telling us he has to start every game,[/p][/quote]I don't think LU would let the return appearance of a loanee affect his decision to stay or otherwise. It might be part of a bigger picture that he could see but we can't and that's what we should be aware of. JL coming back could be a good thing but, as per others' comments, not with the appearance clause. It seems clear though that the club are looking for a striker to come in and equally clear that such a player would be back up for LU (as long as he's here of course). It would be good to have him back though not least because the money required to buy a decent striker may still be needed in central defensive acquisitions or midfield creativity and playmaking. Time will tell. Who knows, maybe SH will come back from Spain with a couple of new faces ;-) gilbertthecat
  • Score: 4

10:21am Tue 8 Jul 14

albionfan33 says...

JeffLomer wrote:
namgo49 wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
On another note did someone say we might bring Jesse back on loan, let's hope he comes back without the clause this time not insisting he starts every game, I would rather see a fit Craig and Leo if still here up front for us, Jesse yes clause no thanx, if united insist on it then I personally would say no thanx were let Hyppia pick his starting eleven not united,
Up the Albion!!
I would not be happy if he came back. The clause would be the same and if anything would drive LU through the exit door it would be the reappearance of JL!!!
I don't agree Leo would leave if he came back, I just don't think there should be a clause put in telling us he has to start every game,
if it was a season long loan i doubt they could put such stipulations in the contract?
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: On another note did someone say we might bring Jesse back on loan, let's hope he comes back without the clause this time not insisting he starts every game, I would rather see a fit Craig and Leo if still here up front for us, Jesse yes clause no thanx, if united insist on it then I personally would say no thanx were let Hyppia pick his starting eleven not united, Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]I would not be happy if he came back. The clause would be the same and if anything would drive LU through the exit door it would be the reappearance of JL!!![/p][/quote]I don't agree Leo would leave if he came back, I just don't think there should be a clause put in telling us he has to start every game,[/p][/quote]if it was a season long loan i doubt they could put such stipulations in the contract? albionfan33
  • Score: 3

11:03am Tue 8 Jul 14

dave from bexill says...

albionfan33 wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
namgo49 wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
On another note did someone say we might bring Jesse back on loan, let's hope he comes back without the clause this time not insisting he starts every game, I would rather see a fit Craig and Leo if still here up front for us, Jesse yes clause no thanx, if united insist on it then I personally would say no thanx were let Hyppia pick his starting eleven not united,
Up the Albion!!
I would not be happy if he came back. The clause would be the same and if anything would drive LU through the exit door it would be the reappearance of JL!!!
I don't agree Leo would leave if he came back, I just don't think there should be a clause put in telling us he has to start every game,
if it was a season long loan i doubt they could put such stipulations in the contract?
I must have missed the "must play every game" clause regarding Jesse L when he signed previously. Was such a clause stated by either of the two clubs or is yet again a rumour that just became fact?
[quote][p][bold]albionfan33[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: On another note did someone say we might bring Jesse back on loan, let's hope he comes back without the clause this time not insisting he starts every game, I would rather see a fit Craig and Leo if still here up front for us, Jesse yes clause no thanx, if united insist on it then I personally would say no thanx were let Hyppia pick his starting eleven not united, Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]I would not be happy if he came back. The clause would be the same and if anything would drive LU through the exit door it would be the reappearance of JL!!![/p][/quote]I don't agree Leo would leave if he came back, I just don't think there should be a clause put in telling us he has to start every game,[/p][/quote]if it was a season long loan i doubt they could put such stipulations in the contract?[/p][/quote]I must have missed the "must play every game" clause regarding Jesse L when he signed previously. Was such a clause stated by either of the two clubs or is yet again a rumour that just became fact? dave from bexill
  • Score: 6

11:07am Tue 8 Jul 14

Neville says...

Just looking at BBC sport website for Championship clubs and majority making announcements about player signings,Brighton still showing article about Sammy Lee going to Southampton,says it all really.
Also interesting to note Fulham have bought McCormack,Fulham showed large financial deficit last season with poor attendances,whatever happened to FFP,rules different for PL clubs but does that apply when they move down a division?
Just looking at BBC sport website for Championship clubs and majority making announcements about player signings,Brighton still showing article about Sammy Lee going to Southampton,says it all really. Also interesting to note Fulham have bought McCormack,Fulham showed large financial deficit last season with poor attendances,whatever happened to FFP,rules different for PL clubs but does that apply when they move down a division? Neville
  • Score: -5

11:10am Tue 8 Jul 14

Neville says...

Just announced Bristol City signed Luke Ayling from Yeovil.
Ayling and the Yeovil keeper were very good at the Amex and why didn't, we make a bid for them. If we cannot compete with likes of Bristol City,things don't bode well. Continued frustration.
Just announced Bristol City signed Luke Ayling from Yeovil. Ayling and the Yeovil keeper were very good at the Amex and why didn't, we make a bid for them. If we cannot compete with likes of Bristol City,things don't bode well. Continued frustration. Neville
  • Score: -16

11:20am Tue 8 Jul 14

JeffLomer says...

dave from bexill wrote:
albionfan33 wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
namgo49 wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
On another note did someone say we might bring Jesse back on loan, let's hope he comes back without the clause this time not insisting he starts every game, I would rather see a fit Craig and Leo if still here up front for us, Jesse yes clause no thanx, if united insist on it then I personally would say no thanx were let Hyppia pick his starting eleven not united,
Up the Albion!!
I would not be happy if he came back. The clause would be the same and if anything would drive LU through the exit door it would be the reappearance of JL!!!
I don't agree Leo would leave if he came back, I just don't think there should be a clause put in telling us he has to start every game,
if it was a season long loan i doubt they could put such stipulations in the contract?
I must have missed the "must play every game" clause regarding Jesse L when he signed previously. Was such a clause stated by either of the two clubs or is yet again a rumour that just became fact?
Applied by united Dave
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albionfan33[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: On another note did someone say we might bring Jesse back on loan, let's hope he comes back without the clause this time not insisting he starts every game, I would rather see a fit Craig and Leo if still here up front for us, Jesse yes clause no thanx, if united insist on it then I personally would say no thanx were let Hyppia pick his starting eleven not united, Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]I would not be happy if he came back. The clause would be the same and if anything would drive LU through the exit door it would be the reappearance of JL!!![/p][/quote]I don't agree Leo would leave if he came back, I just don't think there should be a clause put in telling us he has to start every game,[/p][/quote]if it was a season long loan i doubt they could put such stipulations in the contract?[/p][/quote]I must have missed the "must play every game" clause regarding Jesse L when he signed previously. Was such a clause stated by either of the two clubs or is yet again a rumour that just became fact?[/p][/quote]Applied by united Dave JeffLomer
  • Score: 3

12:00pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Cockwomble says...

Neville wrote:
Just announced Bristol City signed Luke Ayling from Yeovil.
Ayling and the Yeovil keeper were very good at the Amex and why didn't, we make a bid for them. If we cannot compete with likes of Bristol City,things don't bode well. Continued frustration.
theyve signed for a league one side.is that who we should be competing with?if they played that well in every game wouldn't a championship club signed them?cockwomble
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Just announced Bristol City signed Luke Ayling from Yeovil. Ayling and the Yeovil keeper were very good at the Amex and why didn't, we make a bid for them. If we cannot compete with likes of Bristol City,things don't bode well. Continued frustration.[/p][/quote]theyve signed for a league one side.is that who we should be competing with?if they played that well in every game wouldn't a championship club signed them?cockwomble Cockwomble
  • Score: 12

12:13pm Tue 8 Jul 14

tug509 says...

I can see Sami playing CMS and Leo together as we all want to see ,and think they will make a terrific attacking force . We have been looking for an attacking MF with flare for sometime ,if there is any truth that Jesse is coming back ,he could fill that role very well ,sitting just behind Leo and Craig picking up any scraps ,with a 3-5-2 formation ,2 wide men and 2 holding MF we would have a very attack minded side . Whats more is we would have the personel to carry this off !. UTA
I can see Sami playing CMS and Leo together as we all want to see ,and think they will make a terrific attacking force . We have been looking for an attacking MF with flare for sometime ,if there is any truth that Jesse is coming back ,he could fill that role very well ,sitting just behind Leo and Craig picking up any scraps ,with a 3-5-2 formation ,2 wide men and 2 holding MF we would have a very attack minded side . Whats more is we would have the personel to carry this off !. UTA tug509
  • Score: 7

12:42pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Cockwomble says...

tug509 wrote:
I can see Sami playing CMS and Leo together as we all want to see ,and think they will make a terrific attacking force . We have been looking for an attacking MF with flare for sometime ,if there is any truth that Jesse is coming back ,he could fill that role very well ,sitting just behind Leo and Craig picking up any scraps ,with a 3-5-2 formation ,2 wide men and 2 holding MF we would have a very attack minded side . Whats more is we would have the personel to carry this off !. UTA
i can see it being 4 2 2 1 1 with cms behind ulloa but running past him when needed.but then im a cockwomble
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: I can see Sami playing CMS and Leo together as we all want to see ,and think they will make a terrific attacking force . We have been looking for an attacking MF with flare for sometime ,if there is any truth that Jesse is coming back ,he could fill that role very well ,sitting just behind Leo and Craig picking up any scraps ,with a 3-5-2 formation ,2 wide men and 2 holding MF we would have a very attack minded side . Whats more is we would have the personel to carry this off !. UTA[/p][/quote]i can see it being 4 2 2 1 1 with cms behind ulloa but running past him when needed.but then im a cockwomble Cockwomble
  • Score: 2

12:43pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Cockwomble says...

JeffLomer wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
albionfan33 wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
namgo49 wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
On another note did someone say we might bring Jesse back on loan, let's hope he comes back without the clause this time not insisting he starts every game, I would rather see a fit Craig and Leo if still here up front for us, Jesse yes clause no thanx, if united insist on it then I personally would say no thanx were let Hyppia pick his starting eleven not united,
Up the Albion!!
I would not be happy if he came back. The clause would be the same and if anything would drive LU through the exit door it would be the reappearance of JL!!!
I don't agree Leo would leave if he came back, I just don't think there should be a clause put in telling us he has to start every game,
if it was a season long loan i doubt they could put such stipulations in the contract?
I must have missed the "must play every game" clause regarding Jesse L when he signed previously. Was such a clause stated by either of the two clubs or is yet again a rumour that just became fact?
Applied by united Dave
was it ever confirmed?cockwomble
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albionfan33[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: On another note did someone say we might bring Jesse back on loan, let's hope he comes back without the clause this time not insisting he starts every game, I would rather see a fit Craig and Leo if still here up front for us, Jesse yes clause no thanx, if united insist on it then I personally would say no thanx were let Hyppia pick his starting eleven not united, Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]I would not be happy if he came back. The clause would be the same and if anything would drive LU through the exit door it would be the reappearance of JL!!![/p][/quote]I don't agree Leo would leave if he came back, I just don't think there should be a clause put in telling us he has to start every game,[/p][/quote]if it was a season long loan i doubt they could put such stipulations in the contract?[/p][/quote]I must have missed the "must play every game" clause regarding Jesse L when he signed previously. Was such a clause stated by either of the two clubs or is yet again a rumour that just became fact?[/p][/quote]Applied by united Dave[/p][/quote]was it ever confirmed?cockwomble Cockwomble
  • Score: 0

12:48pm Tue 8 Jul 14

tug509 says...

Cockwomble wrote:
tug509 wrote:
I can see Sami playing CMS and Leo together as we all want to see ,and think they will make a terrific attacking force . We have been looking for an attacking MF with flare for sometime ,if there is any truth that Jesse is coming back ,he could fill that role very well ,sitting just behind Leo and Craig picking up any scraps ,with a 3-5-2 formation ,2 wide men and 2 holding MF we would have a very attack minded side . Whats more is we would have the personel to carry this off !. UTA
i can see it being 4 2 2 1 1 with cms behind ulloa but running past him when needed.but then im a cockwomble
With the width of our pitch wouldn`t that stretch us a bit ?
[quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: I can see Sami playing CMS and Leo together as we all want to see ,and think they will make a terrific attacking force . We have been looking for an attacking MF with flare for sometime ,if there is any truth that Jesse is coming back ,he could fill that role very well ,sitting just behind Leo and Craig picking up any scraps ,with a 3-5-2 formation ,2 wide men and 2 holding MF we would have a very attack minded side . Whats more is we would have the personel to carry this off !. UTA[/p][/quote]i can see it being 4 2 2 1 1 with cms behind ulloa but running past him when needed.but then im a cockwomble[/p][/quote]With the width of our pitch wouldn`t that stretch us a bit ? tug509
  • Score: 0

12:53pm Tue 8 Jul 14

championshipgull says...

Cockwomble wrote:
tug509 wrote:
I can see Sami playing CMS and Leo together as we all want to see ,and think they will make a terrific attacking force . We have been looking for an attacking MF with flare for sometime ,if there is any truth that Jesse is coming back ,he could fill that role very well ,sitting just behind Leo and Craig picking up any scraps ,with a 3-5-2 formation ,2 wide men and 2 holding MF we would have a very attack minded side . Whats more is we would have the personel to carry this off !. UTA
i can see it being 4 2 2 1 1 with cms behind ulloa but running past him when needed.but then im a cockwomble
This is interesting. I heard Adam Virgo suggesting we could go 3-5-2 or something similar in a you-tube interview recently. Anyway it’s brilliant to see us fend off interest in our forwards while Leeds are losing theirs. The thought of CMS and Leo together, both on top goal scoring form fills me with optimism.
[quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: I can see Sami playing CMS and Leo together as we all want to see ,and think they will make a terrific attacking force . We have been looking for an attacking MF with flare for sometime ,if there is any truth that Jesse is coming back ,he could fill that role very well ,sitting just behind Leo and Craig picking up any scraps ,with a 3-5-2 formation ,2 wide men and 2 holding MF we would have a very attack minded side . Whats more is we would have the personel to carry this off !. UTA[/p][/quote]i can see it being 4 2 2 1 1 with cms behind ulloa but running past him when needed.but then im a cockwomble[/p][/quote]This is interesting. I heard Adam Virgo suggesting we could go 3-5-2 or something similar in a you-tube interview recently. Anyway it’s brilliant to see us fend off interest in our forwards while Leeds are losing theirs. The thought of CMS and Leo together, both on top goal scoring form fills me with optimism. championshipgull
  • Score: 9

1:04pm Tue 8 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

If Lingard were to return on a year long loan deal the idea that an, appearance clause, would be inserted would surely kill the deal. When Crofts became injured it took for ever to replace him, Stephens eventually came in but as it turned out, Lingard also arrived. Once Stephens and Crofts are fully fit Lingard would have to compete for his place and I can't see Hyypia having it any other way.
If Lingard were to return on a year long loan deal the idea that an, appearance clause, would be inserted would surely kill the deal. When Crofts became injured it took for ever to replace him, Stephens eventually came in but as it turned out, Lingard also arrived. Once Stephens and Crofts are fully fit Lingard would have to compete for his place and I can't see Hyypia having it any other way. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 8

1:38pm Tue 8 Jul 14

tug509 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
If Lingard were to return on a year long loan deal the idea that an, appearance clause, would be inserted would surely kill the deal. When Crofts became injured it took for ever to replace him, Stephens eventually came in but as it turned out, Lingard also arrived. Once Stephens and Crofts are fully fit Lingard would have to compete for his place and I can't see Hyypia having it any other way.
Hi Vegas , IF as you say JL returns it will give us a bit of a headache ,clause or not , with the slim possibility of Sami playing Rohan in CD it could make a position for the guy ,but will Sami play 1 or 2 wingers ? plus Solly has to be accommodated and the new lad Toko ,it might be a real boon to our options ,but only as so many are saying ,if there is some room for manoeuvre within the loan deal clause !. JL is a very versatile player ,and imho wasn`t used to his best last season ,De Gaal might think Sami would use him to better his learning and our goal of promotion ?!.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: If Lingard were to return on a year long loan deal the idea that an, appearance clause, would be inserted would surely kill the deal. When Crofts became injured it took for ever to replace him, Stephens eventually came in but as it turned out, Lingard also arrived. Once Stephens and Crofts are fully fit Lingard would have to compete for his place and I can't see Hyypia having it any other way.[/p][/quote]Hi Vegas , IF as you say JL returns it will give us a bit of a headache ,clause or not , with the slim possibility of Sami playing Rohan in CD it could make a position for the guy ,but will Sami play 1 or 2 wingers ? plus Solly has to be accommodated and the new lad Toko ,it might be a real boon to our options ,but only as so many are saying ,if there is some room for manoeuvre within the loan deal clause !. JL is a very versatile player ,and imho wasn`t used to his best last season ,De Gaal might think Sami would use him to better his learning and our goal of promotion ?!. tug509
  • Score: 1

1:55pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Gee Jay says...

I am not sure if L.U. and CMS would work as a partnership. They have not had the opportunity to work with each other for any sustained period as neither G.P. or O.G. made it happen, and Craig's long term injury was a major factor in this partnership being tested.
I, like many others would love for this partnership to be given time to develop, at least we would know if it could be as sharp as we think it has the potential to be.
Leo is a handful for opposition defenders and CMS wears them down and pulls them out of position with his energy,. Go for it Sami, put it to the test!
UTA
I am not sure if L.U. and CMS would work as a partnership. They have not had the opportunity to work with each other for any sustained period as neither G.P. or O.G. made it happen, and Craig's long term injury was a major factor in this partnership being tested. I, like many others would love for this partnership to be given time to develop, at least we would know if it could be as sharp as we think it has the potential to be. Leo is a handful for opposition defenders and CMS wears them down and pulls them out of position with his energy,. Go for it Sami, put it to the test! UTA Gee Jay
  • Score: 6

2:01pm Tue 8 Jul 14

thetungsten says...

Neville wrote:
Just announced Bristol City signed Luke Ayling from Yeovil.
Ayling and the Yeovil keeper were very good at the Amex and why didn't, we make a bid for them. If we cannot compete with likes of Bristol City,things don't bode well. Continued frustration.
we were speaking with Luke Ayling- he was available on a free. Staying in the SW was the decisive factor in a BBC local interview.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Just announced Bristol City signed Luke Ayling from Yeovil. Ayling and the Yeovil keeper were very good at the Amex and why didn't, we make a bid for them. If we cannot compete with likes of Bristol City,things don't bode well. Continued frustration.[/p][/quote]we were speaking with Luke Ayling- he was available on a free. Staying in the SW was the decisive factor in a BBC local interview. thetungsten
  • Score: 4

2:01pm Tue 8 Jul 14

thetungsten says...

Neville wrote:
Just announced Bristol City signed Luke Ayling from Yeovil.
Ayling and the Yeovil keeper were very good at the Amex and why didn't, we make a bid for them. If we cannot compete with likes of Bristol City,things don't bode well. Continued frustration.
we were speaking with Luke Ayling- he was available on a free. Staying in the SW was the decisive factor in a BBC local interview.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Just announced Bristol City signed Luke Ayling from Yeovil. Ayling and the Yeovil keeper were very good at the Amex and why didn't, we make a bid for them. If we cannot compete with likes of Bristol City,things don't bode well. Continued frustration.[/p][/quote]we were speaking with Luke Ayling- he was available on a free. Staying in the SW was the decisive factor in a BBC local interview. thetungsten
  • Score: 3

2:15pm Tue 8 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

tug509 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
If Lingard were to return on a year long loan deal the idea that an, appearance clause, would be inserted would surely kill the deal. When Crofts became injured it took for ever to replace him, Stephens eventually came in but as it turned out, Lingard also arrived. Once Stephens and Crofts are fully fit Lingard would have to compete for his place and I can't see Hyypia having it any other way.
Hi Vegas , IF as you say JL returns it will give us a bit of a headache ,clause or not , with the slim possibility of Sami playing Rohan in CD it could make a position for the guy ,but will Sami play 1 or 2 wingers ? plus Solly has to be accommodated and the new lad Toko ,it might be a real boon to our options ,but only as so many are saying ,if there is some room for manoeuvre within the loan deal clause !. JL is a very versatile player ,and imho wasn`t used to his best last season ,De Gaal might think Sami would use him to better his learning and our goal of promotion ?!.
Hi Tug.
I just don't see that Sami would go for a loan deal that ties his hands, but I could see him working with Gaal to get the best our of the lad, so yeah, united might have some input, but only before he arrives, if indeed he does.
Options and versatility right thru the squad has to be the way to go, and if we lose players to injury this season, we need to be better equiped to cope. We got lucky last year, the DS lads stepped up, but they ain't DS lads anymore, this year they are contenders.

If Lingard is available to us IMHO, we would be crazy not to take him, and if we do, then others will have to up their game to keep him on the bench, and I like that idea. Accomodate Solly, I wouldn't want any player, accomodated, he will get his chance and he needs to take it, let another try to push him out. Our weakness, as I see it, is the back five, not fully formed, as of yet, and certainly zero competition for places, other than right back. I don't think that we have given up on Ward returning, that issue has gone quiet but I see that as a good sign.
Greer and Dunk are all we have in the middle, my hope is that we sign two CB's that can both claim their positions, make them earn their place. If we don't have competition within the squad, we won't compete in the league.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: If Lingard were to return on a year long loan deal the idea that an, appearance clause, would be inserted would surely kill the deal. When Crofts became injured it took for ever to replace him, Stephens eventually came in but as it turned out, Lingard also arrived. Once Stephens and Crofts are fully fit Lingard would have to compete for his place and I can't see Hyypia having it any other way.[/p][/quote]Hi Vegas , IF as you say JL returns it will give us a bit of a headache ,clause or not , with the slim possibility of Sami playing Rohan in CD it could make a position for the guy ,but will Sami play 1 or 2 wingers ? plus Solly has to be accommodated and the new lad Toko ,it might be a real boon to our options ,but only as so many are saying ,if there is some room for manoeuvre within the loan deal clause !. JL is a very versatile player ,and imho wasn`t used to his best last season ,De Gaal might think Sami would use him to better his learning and our goal of promotion ?!.[/p][/quote]Hi Tug. I just don't see that Sami would go for a loan deal that ties his hands, but I could see him working with Gaal to get the best our of the lad, so yeah, united might have some input, but only before he arrives, if indeed he does. Options and versatility right thru the squad has to be the way to go, and if we lose players to injury this season, we need to be better equiped to cope. We got lucky last year, the DS lads stepped up, but they ain't DS lads anymore, this year they are contenders. If Lingard is available to us IMHO, we would be crazy not to take him, and if we do, then others will have to up their game to keep him on the bench, and I like that idea. Accomodate Solly, I wouldn't want any player, accomodated, he will get his chance and he needs to take it, let another try to push him out. Our weakness, as I see it, is the back five, not fully formed, as of yet, and certainly zero competition for places, other than right back. I don't think that we have given up on Ward returning, that issue has gone quiet but I see that as a good sign. Greer and Dunk are all we have in the middle, my hope is that we sign two CB's that can both claim their positions, make them earn their place. If we don't have competition within the squad, we won't compete in the league. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 7

2:58pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Cockwomble says...

tug509 wrote:
Cockwomble wrote:
tug509 wrote:
I can see Sami playing CMS and Leo together as we all want to see ,and think they will make a terrific attacking force . We have been looking for an attacking MF with flare for sometime ,if there is any truth that Jesse is coming back ,he could fill that role very well ,sitting just behind Leo and Craig picking up any scraps ,with a 3-5-2 formation ,2 wide men and 2 holding MF we would have a very attack minded side . Whats more is we would have the personel to carry this off !. UTA
i can see it being 4 2 2 1 1 with cms behind ulloa but running past him when needed.but then im a cockwomble
With the width of our pitch wouldn`t that stretch us a bit ?
not really with the fullbacks pushing on as wingbacks.especially with defmids.cockwomble
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: I can see Sami playing CMS and Leo together as we all want to see ,and think they will make a terrific attacking force . We have been looking for an attacking MF with flare for sometime ,if there is any truth that Jesse is coming back ,he could fill that role very well ,sitting just behind Leo and Craig picking up any scraps ,with a 3-5-2 formation ,2 wide men and 2 holding MF we would have a very attack minded side . Whats more is we would have the personel to carry this off !. UTA[/p][/quote]i can see it being 4 2 2 1 1 with cms behind ulloa but running past him when needed.but then im a cockwomble[/p][/quote]With the width of our pitch wouldn`t that stretch us a bit ?[/p][/quote]not really with the fullbacks pushing on as wingbacks.especially with defmids.cockwomble Cockwomble
  • Score: 0

3:42pm Tue 8 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

JFC and Walton have both signed new deals, can't be bad for the future.
JFC and Walton have both signed new deals, can't be bad for the future. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 6

3:49pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Withdean-er says...

Not another Argus CMS 'story'.

CMS just isn't cut out to be a good Championship striker. He's made the best of his ability, can chase down defenders all day long and comes across as a decent guy. But he has a terrible first touch, does not put away chances and half-chances with regularity at this level and has poor positional sense. On a day when Fulham with their PL money have signed the classy McCormack, and similarly Cardiff have been spending on class this Summer, this CMS obsession comes across as desperate and light weight. Hopefully TB and Hyppia recognise our need for big changes up front, as borne out by 3 seasons of being very low scorers.
Not another Argus CMS 'story'. CMS just isn't cut out to be a good Championship striker. He's made the best of his ability, can chase down defenders all day long and comes across as a decent guy. But he has a terrible first touch, does not put away chances and half-chances with regularity at this level and has poor positional sense. On a day when Fulham with their PL money have signed the classy McCormack, and similarly Cardiff have been spending on class this Summer, this CMS obsession comes across as desperate and light weight. Hopefully TB and Hyppia recognise our need for big changes up front, as borne out by 3 seasons of being very low scorers. Withdean-er
  • Score: -15

4:15pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Conelli98 says...

See we made a bid for Adam Clayton but turned down! IMO make another Brighton, he was quality against us up there!
See we made a bid for Adam Clayton but turned down! IMO make another Brighton, he was quality against us up there! Conelli98
  • Score: 4

4:39pm Tue 8 Jul 14

JeffLomer says...

Withdean-er wrote:
Not another Argus CMS 'story'.

CMS just isn't cut out to be a good Championship striker. He's made the best of his ability, can chase down defenders all day long and comes across as a decent guy. But he has a terrible first touch, does not put away chances and half-chances with regularity at this level and has poor positional sense. On a day when Fulham with their PL money have signed the classy McCormack, and similarly Cardiff have been spending on class this Summer, this CMS obsession comes across as desperate and light weight. Hopefully TB and Hyppia recognise our need for big changes up front, as borne out by 3 seasons of being very low scorers.
I disagree what you say about Craig, to be honest i do not think we have seen the best off him yet, judge him when he has a full season injury free,
[quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: Not another Argus CMS 'story'. CMS just isn't cut out to be a good Championship striker. He's made the best of his ability, can chase down defenders all day long and comes across as a decent guy. But he has a terrible first touch, does not put away chances and half-chances with regularity at this level and has poor positional sense. On a day when Fulham with their PL money have signed the classy McCormack, and similarly Cardiff have been spending on class this Summer, this CMS obsession comes across as desperate and light weight. Hopefully TB and Hyppia recognise our need for big changes up front, as borne out by 3 seasons of being very low scorers.[/p][/quote]I disagree what you say about Craig, to be honest i do not think we have seen the best off him yet, judge him when he has a full season injury free, JeffLomer
  • Score: 8

4:47pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Cockwomble says...

Withdean-er wrote:
Not another Argus CMS 'story'.

CMS just isn't cut out to be a good Championship striker. He's made the best of his ability, can chase down defenders all day long and comes across as a decent guy. But he has a terrible first touch, does not put away chances and half-chances with regularity at this level and has poor positional sense. On a day when Fulham with their PL money have signed the classy McCormack, and similarly Cardiff have been spending on class this Summer, this CMS obsession comes across as desperate and light weight. Hopefully TB and Hyppia recognise our need for big changes up front, as borne out by 3 seasons of being very low scorers.
so many cliches in one paragraph.especially liked the one about poor first touch.bravo.cockwomb
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[quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: Not another Argus CMS 'story'. CMS just isn't cut out to be a good Championship striker. He's made the best of his ability, can chase down defenders all day long and comes across as a decent guy. But he has a terrible first touch, does not put away chances and half-chances with regularity at this level and has poor positional sense. On a day when Fulham with their PL money have signed the classy McCormack, and similarly Cardiff have been spending on class this Summer, this CMS obsession comes across as desperate and light weight. Hopefully TB and Hyppia recognise our need for big changes up front, as borne out by 3 seasons of being very low scorers.[/p][/quote]so many cliches in one paragraph.especially liked the one about poor first touch.bravo.cockwomb le Cockwomble
  • Score: 7

5:51pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Whydontukick off says...

Lets sell off CMS and get in 2 new strikers who can score goals at this level. the rest will just happen for us.
Sorry but I don't think cms will cut the mustard...never did !
Lets sell off CMS and get in 2 new strikers who can score goals at this level. the rest will just happen for us. Sorry but I don't think cms will cut the mustard...never did ! Whydontukick off
  • Score: -6

6:47pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Withdean-er says...

Cockwomble wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
Not another Argus CMS 'story'.

CMS just isn't cut out to be a good Championship striker. He's made the best of his ability, can chase down defenders all day long and comes across as a decent guy. But he has a terrible first touch, does not put away chances and half-chances with regularity at this level and has poor positional sense. On a day when Fulham with their PL money have signed the classy McCormack, and similarly Cardiff have been spending on class this Summer, this CMS obsession comes across as desperate and light weight. Hopefully TB and Hyppia recognise our need for big changes up front, as borne out by 3 seasons of being very low scorers.
so many cliches in one paragraph.especially liked the one about poor first touch.bravo.cockwomb

le
3 years in and CMS has done very little for the Albion's cause, despite a ridiculously high fee (well done Darragh MacAnthony of Peterborough - another transfer coup). What are your incredible matching winning memories of CMS over those 3 seasons? What has CMS done so far 3/4 through his contract to justify the massive transfer fee and wages? I wait with bated breath.

But CMS is tremendous at meet-the-fan's evenings, is always chatty and comes across as someone who appreciates the career and immense wealth he gained from football.
[quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: Not another Argus CMS 'story'. CMS just isn't cut out to be a good Championship striker. He's made the best of his ability, can chase down defenders all day long and comes across as a decent guy. But he has a terrible first touch, does not put away chances and half-chances with regularity at this level and has poor positional sense. On a day when Fulham with their PL money have signed the classy McCormack, and similarly Cardiff have been spending on class this Summer, this CMS obsession comes across as desperate and light weight. Hopefully TB and Hyppia recognise our need for big changes up front, as borne out by 3 seasons of being very low scorers.[/p][/quote]so many cliches in one paragraph.especially liked the one about poor first touch.bravo.cockwomb le[/p][/quote]3 years in and CMS has done very little for the Albion's cause, despite a ridiculously high fee (well done Darragh MacAnthony of Peterborough - another transfer coup). What are your incredible matching winning memories of CMS over those 3 seasons? What has CMS done so far 3/4 through his contract to justify the massive transfer fee and wages? I wait with bated breath. But CMS is tremendous at meet-the-fan's evenings, is always chatty and comes across as someone who appreciates the career and immense wealth he gained from football. Withdean-er
  • Score: -2

7:42pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Withdean-er wrote:
Cockwomble wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
Not another Argus CMS 'story'.

CMS just isn't cut out to be a good Championship striker. He's made the best of his ability, can chase down defenders all day long and comes across as a decent guy. But he has a terrible first touch, does not put away chances and half-chances with regularity at this level and has poor positional sense. On a day when Fulham with their PL money have signed the classy McCormack, and similarly Cardiff have been spending on class this Summer, this CMS obsession comes across as desperate and light weight. Hopefully TB and Hyppia recognise our need for big changes up front, as borne out by 3 seasons of being very low scorers.
so many cliches in one paragraph.especially liked the one about poor first touch.bravo.cockwomb


le
3 years in and CMS has done very little for the Albion's cause, despite a ridiculously high fee (well done Darragh MacAnthony of Peterborough - another transfer coup). What are your incredible matching winning memories of CMS over those 3 seasons? What has CMS done so far 3/4 through his contract to justify the massive transfer fee and wages? I wait with bated breath.

But CMS is tremendous at meet-the-fan's evenings, is always chatty and comes across as someone who appreciates the career and immense wealth he gained from football.
I, for once, agree with Mr Womble. CMS was bought for a high fee and then constantly played in entirely the wrong system by Gus Poyet. The guy thrives on through ball where he can use his pace, and what did Gus do? Play slowly around the back and through the midfield (a style I liked). No wonder he barely scored!

The fast, counter-attacking style that Sami has mooted could be tailor-made for CMS... and it's going to be exciting to find that out for sure.

PS: Last season was a write-off due to injury so to use that as part of your 'evidence' is disingenuous.

PPS: Isn't it funny how no-one mentioned his lack of a first touch until about 15-16 months after he signed, then all of a sudden everyone started claiming it. That is a proper cliché :-)
[quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: Not another Argus CMS 'story'. CMS just isn't cut out to be a good Championship striker. He's made the best of his ability, can chase down defenders all day long and comes across as a decent guy. But he has a terrible first touch, does not put away chances and half-chances with regularity at this level and has poor positional sense. On a day when Fulham with their PL money have signed the classy McCormack, and similarly Cardiff have been spending on class this Summer, this CMS obsession comes across as desperate and light weight. Hopefully TB and Hyppia recognise our need for big changes up front, as borne out by 3 seasons of being very low scorers.[/p][/quote]so many cliches in one paragraph.especially liked the one about poor first touch.bravo.cockwomb le[/p][/quote]3 years in and CMS has done very little for the Albion's cause, despite a ridiculously high fee (well done Darragh MacAnthony of Peterborough - another transfer coup). What are your incredible matching winning memories of CMS over those 3 seasons? What has CMS done so far 3/4 through his contract to justify the massive transfer fee and wages? I wait with bated breath. But CMS is tremendous at meet-the-fan's evenings, is always chatty and comes across as someone who appreciates the career and immense wealth he gained from football.[/p][/quote]I, for once, agree with Mr Womble. CMS was bought for a high fee and then constantly played in entirely the wrong system by Gus Poyet. The guy thrives on through ball where he can use his pace, and what did Gus do? Play slowly around the back and through the midfield (a style I liked). No wonder he barely scored! The fast, counter-attacking style that Sami has mooted could be tailor-made for CMS... and it's going to be exciting to find that out for sure. PS: Last season was a write-off due to injury so to use that as part of your 'evidence' is disingenuous. PPS: Isn't it funny how no-one mentioned his lack of a first touch until about 15-16 months after he signed, then all of a sudden everyone started claiming it. That is a proper cliché :-) Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 6

10:19pm Tue 8 Jul 14

driverchris53 says...

a fully fit CMS will be such an important player this year if him and Ulloa are scoring we will do well
a fully fit CMS will be such an important player this year if him and Ulloa are scoring we will do well driverchris53
  • Score: 1

11:15pm Tue 8 Jul 14

SMF20 says...

I know not everyone agrees but I'm personally a big fan of CMS.

I believe that given a style of play to suit him, he is a 20 goal striker... I believe Leo is a 20 goal striker too.
The thought of these 2 being fit all season and playing week in week with one another is imho a mouthwatering prospect.

With the wing berths being filled with 2 of Will, Kaz and Solly and the centre positions being contested by 4 or 5 very good players, I actually think that even as we speak we could probably have a top 10 team.
Don't get me wrong... I say team rather than squad as we are woefully short on numbers at the moment.

In my mind we have a pretty good nucleus to build on right now... 6 top notch players rather than 9 mediocre ones might just see us challenging the top 6 once more.

I look forwRd to seeing who joins us, hopefully soon

Uta
I know not everyone agrees but I'm personally a big fan of CMS. I believe that given a style of play to suit him, he is a 20 goal striker... I believe Leo is a 20 goal striker too. The thought of these 2 being fit all season and playing week in week with one another is imho a mouthwatering prospect. With the wing berths being filled with 2 of Will, Kaz and Solly and the centre positions being contested by 4 or 5 very good players, I actually think that even as we speak we could probably have a top 10 team. Don't get me wrong... I say team rather than squad as we are woefully short on numbers at the moment. In my mind we have a pretty good nucleus to build on right now... 6 top notch players rather than 9 mediocre ones might just see us challenging the top 6 once more. I look forwRd to seeing who joins us, hopefully soon Uta SMF20
  • Score: 1

8:18am Wed 9 Jul 14

Withdean-er says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
Cockwomble wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
Not another Argus CMS 'story'.

CMS just isn't cut out to be a good Championship striker. He's made the best of his ability, can chase down defenders all day long and comes across as a decent guy. But he has a terrible first touch, does not put away chances and half-chances with regularity at this level and has poor positional sense. On a day when Fulham with their PL money have signed the classy McCormack, and similarly Cardiff have been spending on class this Summer, this CMS obsession comes across as desperate and light weight. Hopefully TB and Hyppia recognise our need for big changes up front, as borne out by 3 seasons of being very low scorers.
so many cliches in one paragraph.especially liked the one about poor first touch.bravo.cockwomb



le
3 years in and CMS has done very little for the Albion's cause, despite a ridiculously high fee (well done Darragh MacAnthony of Peterborough - another transfer coup). What are your incredible matching winning memories of CMS over those 3 seasons? What has CMS done so far 3/4 through his contract to justify the massive transfer fee and wages? I wait with bated breath.

But CMS is tremendous at meet-the-fan's evenings, is always chatty and comes across as someone who appreciates the career and immense wealth he gained from football.
I, for once, agree with Mr Womble. CMS was bought for a high fee and then constantly played in entirely the wrong system by Gus Poyet. The guy thrives on through ball where he can use his pace, and what did Gus do? Play slowly around the back and through the midfield (a style I liked). No wonder he barely scored!

The fast, counter-attacking style that Sami has mooted could be tailor-made for CMS... and it's going to be exciting to find that out for sure.

PS: Last season was a write-off due to injury so to use that as part of your 'evidence' is disingenuous.

PPS: Isn't it funny how no-one mentioned his lack of a first touch until about 15-16 months after he signed, then all of a sudden everyone started claiming it. That is a proper cliché :-)
Regarding the very last part of your views, some fans did criticise CMS's lack of ability during that first season. It was NEVER a unanimous appreciation, the comparisons (contrast) with Murray soon crept into threads/message boards. As always with football viewpoints, there were differing opinions. No need to rewrite history that for the first 15-16 months 100% of fans didn't criticise CMS regarding his failings.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: Not another Argus CMS 'story'. CMS just isn't cut out to be a good Championship striker. He's made the best of his ability, can chase down defenders all day long and comes across as a decent guy. But he has a terrible first touch, does not put away chances and half-chances with regularity at this level and has poor positional sense. On a day when Fulham with their PL money have signed the classy McCormack, and similarly Cardiff have been spending on class this Summer, this CMS obsession comes across as desperate and light weight. Hopefully TB and Hyppia recognise our need for big changes up front, as borne out by 3 seasons of being very low scorers.[/p][/quote]so many cliches in one paragraph.especially liked the one about poor first touch.bravo.cockwomb le[/p][/quote]3 years in and CMS has done very little for the Albion's cause, despite a ridiculously high fee (well done Darragh MacAnthony of Peterborough - another transfer coup). What are your incredible matching winning memories of CMS over those 3 seasons? What has CMS done so far 3/4 through his contract to justify the massive transfer fee and wages? I wait with bated breath. But CMS is tremendous at meet-the-fan's evenings, is always chatty and comes across as someone who appreciates the career and immense wealth he gained from football.[/p][/quote]I, for once, agree with Mr Womble. CMS was bought for a high fee and then constantly played in entirely the wrong system by Gus Poyet. The guy thrives on through ball where he can use his pace, and what did Gus do? Play slowly around the back and through the midfield (a style I liked). No wonder he barely scored! The fast, counter-attacking style that Sami has mooted could be tailor-made for CMS... and it's going to be exciting to find that out for sure. PS: Last season was a write-off due to injury so to use that as part of your 'evidence' is disingenuous. PPS: Isn't it funny how no-one mentioned his lack of a first touch until about 15-16 months after he signed, then all of a sudden everyone started claiming it. That is a proper cliché :-)[/p][/quote]Regarding the very last part of your views, some fans did criticise CMS's lack of ability during that first season. It was NEVER a unanimous appreciation, the comparisons (contrast) with Murray soon crept into threads/message boards. As always with football viewpoints, there were differing opinions. No need to rewrite history that for the first 15-16 months 100% of fans didn't criticise CMS regarding his failings. Withdean-er
  • Score: 2
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