Albion's Championship rivals Fulham splash out on McCormack

Ross McCormack has joined Championship side Fulham

Ross McCormack has joined Championship side Fulham

First published in Sport

Albion will face an £11million striker next season after Championship rivals Fulham completed the signing of Ross McCormack from Leeds.

The 27-year-old Scotland striker, who has signed a four-year contract at Craven Cottage, was the top scorer in the Sky Bet Championship last season after hitting 29 goals for Leeds.

Although Fulham, who were relegated from the Premier League last season, have not disclosed the exact fee it is believed to be around £11million.

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11:39am Tue 8 Jul 14

Aye Aye says...

£11m? A fool and his money are soon parted!!
£11m? A fool and his money are soon parted!! Aye Aye
  • Score: 14

11:45am Tue 8 Jul 14

Towno58 says...

Disgusting use of parachute payment money and should not have been allowed if the football league had more balls.

My understanding is that parachute payments are there to transition a team with potential high earners into the championship? It seems that if relegated Premiership teams are careful with player contracts then they have a massive advantage straight off. If they didn't need this money for it's real purpose then they should not have had it.
Disgusting use of parachute payment money and should not have been allowed if the football league had more balls. My understanding is that parachute payments are there to transition a team with potential high earners into the championship? It seems that if relegated Premiership teams are careful with player contracts then they have a massive advantage straight off. If they didn't need this money for it's real purpose then they should not have had it. Towno58
  • Score: 29

12:03pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Cockwomble says...

Aye Aye wrote:
£11m? A fool and his money are soon parted!!
will only be 11m with all addons paid so unlikely
[quote][p][bold]Aye Aye[/bold] wrote: £11m? A fool and his money are soon parted!![/p][/quote]will only be 11m with all addons paid so unlikely Cockwomble
  • Score: -2

12:15pm Tue 8 Jul 14

barnieb says...

Give me Leo anyday.
Give me Leo anyday. barnieb
  • Score: 7

12:29pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Clean Sheet says...

This is where the inequality of the parachute payment system is so ridiculous.
This is where the inequality of the parachute payment system is so ridiculous. Clean Sheet
  • Score: 14

12:41pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

What's so frustrating is we have that sort of money to spend, but the suits are more excited about complying to FFP than seeing a decent team. If you want the premier league enough then you must spend, that is the reality of it. When you reach the premier league whatever you spend is comfortably negated by the untold riches from sky etc, a gamble worth taking it seems. And our owner is supposed to be quite a gambler is he not? Fulham know the risks, even with the parachute payments this is a big gamble, but they know what they want and they will do whatever is necessary to get it, not a bad philosophy really.
What's so frustrating is we have that sort of money to spend, but the suits are more excited about complying to FFP than seeing a decent team. If you want the premier league enough then you must spend, that is the reality of it. When you reach the premier league whatever you spend is comfortably negated by the untold riches from sky etc, a gamble worth taking it seems. And our owner is supposed to be quite a gambler is he not? Fulham know the risks, even with the parachute payments this is a big gamble, but they know what they want and they will do whatever is necessary to get it, not a bad philosophy really. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -14

12:43pm Tue 8 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

Leicester got promoted but drag their feet in paying what Brighton sees as the right price for Ulloa, Fulham got relegated and apparently have no problem with paying around 11M for McCormack, shouldn't it have been the other way around?
Given the the long list of clubs that have gone up only to come straight back down the following season, I am left wondering why Leicester are so intent on getting Leo but let a 29 goal striker slip thu their fingers.

The bench mark has now been set, all offers for Leo can now be measured against the McCormack price. Is Ulloa worth 11M, no, is 5M enough, no, in the light of what McCormack sale a bid of around 8M would now seem to be right.
Leicester got promoted but drag their feet in paying what Brighton sees as the right price for Ulloa, Fulham got relegated and apparently have no problem with paying around 11M for McCormack, shouldn't it have been the other way around? Given the the long list of clubs that have gone up only to come straight back down the following season, I am left wondering why Leicester are so intent on getting Leo but let a 29 goal striker slip thu their fingers. The bench mark has now been set, all offers for Leo can now be measured against the McCormack price. Is Ulloa worth 11M, no, is 5M enough, no, in the light of what McCormack sale a bid of around 8M would now seem to be right. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 9

12:52pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Justin says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
What's so frustrating is we have that sort of money to spend, but the suits are more excited about complying to FFP than seeing a decent team. If you want the premier league enough then you must spend, that is the reality of it. When you reach the premier league whatever you spend is comfortably negated by the untold riches from sky etc, a gamble worth taking it seems. And our owner is supposed to be quite a gambler is he not? Fulham know the risks, even with the parachute payments this is a big gamble, but they know what they want and they will do whatever is necessary to get it, not a bad philosophy really.
Is it really fair to our chairman to complain that he doesn't put enough money into the club? If it weren't for FFP, maybe he would maybe he wouldn't. But I don't see how any of us fans, who contribute a few hundred pounds a year to the club and that for something in return, can possibly criticize TB for not putting in more of his own money.
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: What's so frustrating is we have that sort of money to spend, but the suits are more excited about complying to FFP than seeing a decent team. If you want the premier league enough then you must spend, that is the reality of it. When you reach the premier league whatever you spend is comfortably negated by the untold riches from sky etc, a gamble worth taking it seems. And our owner is supposed to be quite a gambler is he not? Fulham know the risks, even with the parachute payments this is a big gamble, but they know what they want and they will do whatever is necessary to get it, not a bad philosophy really.[/p][/quote]Is it really fair to our chairman to complain that he doesn't put enough money into the club? If it weren't for FFP, maybe he would maybe he wouldn't. But I don't see how any of us fans, who contribute a few hundred pounds a year to the club and that for something in return, can possibly criticize TB for not putting in more of his own money. Justin
  • Score: 23

1:04pm Tue 8 Jul 14

phumps says...

Whether he is 11m striker or not we have faced him for last 2 seasons !!
Whether he is 11m striker or not we have faced him for last 2 seasons !! phumps
  • Score: 5

1:43pm Tue 8 Jul 14

CantUseNSCatWork says...

Parachute payments = Reward for failure.
Parachute payments = Reward for failure. CantUseNSCatWork
  • Score: 11

1:51pm Tue 8 Jul 14

sussexram40 says...

barnieb wrote:
Give me Leo anyday.
He's leaving the club. Just a matter of the seagulls getting the best price they can.
Seems a lot of transfer action everywhere except at the Amex. Way its looking we are talking lower mid table next season.
[quote][p][bold]barnieb[/bold] wrote: Give me Leo anyday.[/p][/quote]He's leaving the club. Just a matter of the seagulls getting the best price they can. Seems a lot of transfer action everywhere except at the Amex. Way its looking we are talking lower mid table next season. sussexram40
  • Score: -2

1:53pm Tue 8 Jul 14

jackjessmax says...

Crazy, crazy- all the parachute payments seem to be doing is to elevate the costs of better Championship players, thereby distorting finances away from the sustainable game even further - and similarly in lower leagues


Some might say great - probably elevates Leo's cost for someone to buy, but it also equally elevates the costs we pay for replacement.(s).

We really need a Fulham or a Qpr to go seriously bust to Shake all this up and restore some reality. Pompey has taught us nothing!
Crazy, crazy- all the parachute payments seem to be doing is to elevate the costs of better Championship players, thereby distorting finances away from the sustainable game even further - and similarly in lower leagues Some might say great - probably elevates Leo's cost for someone to buy, but it also equally elevates the costs we pay for replacement.(s). We really need a Fulham or a Qpr to go seriously bust to Shake all this up and restore some reality. Pompey has taught us nothing! jackjessmax
  • Score: 5

1:57pm Tue 8 Jul 14

JeffLomer says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Leicester got promoted but drag their feet in paying what Brighton sees as the right price for Ulloa, Fulham got relegated and apparently have no problem with paying around 11M for McCormack, shouldn't it have been the other way around?
Given the the long list of clubs that have gone up only to come straight back down the following season, I am left wondering why Leicester are so intent on getting Leo but let a 29 goal striker slip thu their fingers.

The bench mark has now been set, all offers for Leo can now be measured against the McCormack price. Is Ulloa worth 11M, no, is 5M enough, no, in the light of what McCormack sale a bid of around 8M would now seem to be right.
You can't compare Ross with Leo, two totally different strikers, Ross great with both feet and good in the air, he is a bit like CMS when he played for posh likes to put through and run onto the ball or he will get you a twenty five yard goal with any boot, were Leo good in the air but spends half the game telling the referee he's been felled, then he go missing when he doesn't get the decision, I said to you last week that Ross would go for a lot more than Leo the reason he is more deadly in front off goal, I'm not saying I don't rate Leo Vegas because I do, I just think Ross is the better striker in my opinion, think your spot on with your value 8million!!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Leicester got promoted but drag their feet in paying what Brighton sees as the right price for Ulloa, Fulham got relegated and apparently have no problem with paying around 11M for McCormack, shouldn't it have been the other way around? Given the the long list of clubs that have gone up only to come straight back down the following season, I am left wondering why Leicester are so intent on getting Leo but let a 29 goal striker slip thu their fingers. The bench mark has now been set, all offers for Leo can now be measured against the McCormack price. Is Ulloa worth 11M, no, is 5M enough, no, in the light of what McCormack sale a bid of around 8M would now seem to be right.[/p][/quote]You can't compare Ross with Leo, two totally different strikers, Ross great with both feet and good in the air, he is a bit like CMS when he played for posh likes to put through and run onto the ball or he will get you a twenty five yard goal with any boot, were Leo good in the air but spends half the game telling the referee he's been felled, then he go missing when he doesn't get the decision, I said to you last week that Ross would go for a lot more than Leo the reason he is more deadly in front off goal, I'm not saying I don't rate Leo Vegas because I do, I just think Ross is the better striker in my opinion, think your spot on with your value 8million!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 5

2:20pm Tue 8 Jul 14

lighteninglee says...

Championship team spending 11mil on one player how many prem teams Will be doing that. Not many from the bottom half of the table anyway...
Championship team spending 11mil on one player how many prem teams Will be doing that. Not many from the bottom half of the table anyway... lighteninglee
  • Score: 1

2:23pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

Justin wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
What's so frustrating is we have that sort of money to spend, but the suits are more excited about complying to FFP than seeing a decent team. If you want the premier league enough then you must spend, that is the reality of it. When you reach the premier league whatever you spend is comfortably negated by the untold riches from sky etc, a gamble worth taking it seems. And our owner is supposed to be quite a gambler is he not? Fulham know the risks, even with the parachute payments this is a big gamble, but they know what they want and they will do whatever is necessary to get it, not a bad philosophy really.
Is it really fair to our chairman to complain that he doesn't put enough money into the club? If it weren't for FFP, maybe he would maybe he wouldn't. But I don't see how any of us fans, who contribute a few hundred pounds a year to the club and that for something in return, can possibly criticize TB for not putting in more of his own money.
Well yes because collectively we supporters contribute untold millions to the club in return for an entertaining team. Bloom put money in to start us off but when the money is got back it is only fair to expect more to be available for a decent team. Spending 30 million on a training complex proves there's plenty of money about but constantly offering FFP as an excuse is not good enough. We need quality and to get quality we need to spend.
[quote][p][bold]Justin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: What's so frustrating is we have that sort of money to spend, but the suits are more excited about complying to FFP than seeing a decent team. If you want the premier league enough then you must spend, that is the reality of it. When you reach the premier league whatever you spend is comfortably negated by the untold riches from sky etc, a gamble worth taking it seems. And our owner is supposed to be quite a gambler is he not? Fulham know the risks, even with the parachute payments this is a big gamble, but they know what they want and they will do whatever is necessary to get it, not a bad philosophy really.[/p][/quote]Is it really fair to our chairman to complain that he doesn't put enough money into the club? If it weren't for FFP, maybe he would maybe he wouldn't. But I don't see how any of us fans, who contribute a few hundred pounds a year to the club and that for something in return, can possibly criticize TB for not putting in more of his own money.[/p][/quote]Well yes because collectively we supporters contribute untold millions to the club in return for an entertaining team. Bloom put money in to start us off but when the money is got back it is only fair to expect more to be available for a decent team. Spending 30 million on a training complex proves there's plenty of money about but constantly offering FFP as an excuse is not good enough. We need quality and to get quality we need to spend. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -6

2:28pm Tue 8 Jul 14

gordongull says...

jackjessmax wrote:
Crazy, crazy- all the parachute payments seem to be doing is to elevate the costs of better Championship players, thereby distorting finances away from the sustainable game even further - and similarly in lower leagues


Some might say great - probably elevates Leo's cost for someone to buy, but it also equally elevates the costs we pay for replacement.(s).

We really need a Fulham or a Qpr to go seriously bust to Shake all this up and restore some reality. Pompey has taught us nothing!
It is inevitable that parachute clubs are going to pay over the odds to secure the best players at this level, JJM, and whatever we think about the system, the fact is they can afford it.
It could help to increase Leo's value, but will have no effect on what we would pay to replace him, because he will be replaced within our financial constraints. Any players who are not of interest to the parachute clubs will be left with the 14 clubs who are not receiving the payments. A combination of of FFP and no parachute money should keep the prices down.
[quote][p][bold]jackjessmax[/bold] wrote: Crazy, crazy- all the parachute payments seem to be doing is to elevate the costs of better Championship players, thereby distorting finances away from the sustainable game even further - and similarly in lower leagues Some might say great - probably elevates Leo's cost for someone to buy, but it also equally elevates the costs we pay for replacement.(s). We really need a Fulham or a Qpr to go seriously bust to Shake all this up and restore some reality. Pompey has taught us nothing![/p][/quote]It is inevitable that parachute clubs are going to pay over the odds to secure the best players at this level, JJM, and whatever we think about the system, the fact is they can afford it. It could help to increase Leo's value, but will have no effect on what we would pay to replace him, because he will be replaced within our financial constraints. Any players who are not of interest to the parachute clubs will be left with the 14 clubs who are not receiving the payments. A combination of of FFP and no parachute money should keep the prices down. gordongull
  • Score: 1

2:32pm Tue 8 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

JeffLomer wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Leicester got promoted but drag their feet in paying what Brighton sees as the right price for Ulloa, Fulham got relegated and apparently have no problem with paying around 11M for McCormack, shouldn't it have been the other way around?
Given the the long list of clubs that have gone up only to come straight back down the following season, I am left wondering why Leicester are so intent on getting Leo but let a 29 goal striker slip thu their fingers.

The bench mark has now been set, all offers for Leo can now be measured against the McCormack price. Is Ulloa worth 11M, no, is 5M enough, no, in the light of what McCormack sale a bid of around 8M would now seem to be right.
You can't compare Ross with Leo, two totally different strikers, Ross great with both feet and good in the air, he is a bit like CMS when he played for posh likes to put through and run onto the ball or he will get you a twenty five yard goal with any boot, were Leo good in the air but spends half the game telling the referee he's been felled, then he go missing when he doesn't get the decision, I said to you last week that Ross would go for a lot more than Leo the reason he is more deadly in front off goal, I'm not saying I don't rate Leo Vegas because I do, I just think Ross is the better striker in my opinion, think your spot on with your value 8million!!
I can pretty much agree with what you are saying Jeff, that is why I said that Leo is, NOT,' a 11M pound striker, but the McCormack price does give us a measure to go by, even if they are different types of striker.
The Leeds players gave McCormack better service than Leo got last year from his team mates, and that might well have been down to our injury list but that could al be very different this year, if Leo stays.
I am left a little puzzled by the fact that, with all that you point out that is correct about McCormack, and the differences between he and Leo, why is McCormack still in the champ div whilst Leo has a shot at the prem?
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Leicester got promoted but drag their feet in paying what Brighton sees as the right price for Ulloa, Fulham got relegated and apparently have no problem with paying around 11M for McCormack, shouldn't it have been the other way around? Given the the long list of clubs that have gone up only to come straight back down the following season, I am left wondering why Leicester are so intent on getting Leo but let a 29 goal striker slip thu their fingers. The bench mark has now been set, all offers for Leo can now be measured against the McCormack price. Is Ulloa worth 11M, no, is 5M enough, no, in the light of what McCormack sale a bid of around 8M would now seem to be right.[/p][/quote]You can't compare Ross with Leo, two totally different strikers, Ross great with both feet and good in the air, he is a bit like CMS when he played for posh likes to put through and run onto the ball or he will get you a twenty five yard goal with any boot, were Leo good in the air but spends half the game telling the referee he's been felled, then he go missing when he doesn't get the decision, I said to you last week that Ross would go for a lot more than Leo the reason he is more deadly in front off goal, I'm not saying I don't rate Leo Vegas because I do, I just think Ross is the better striker in my opinion, think your spot on with your value 8million!![/p][/quote]I can pretty much agree with what you are saying Jeff, that is why I said that Leo is, NOT,' a 11M pound striker, but the McCormack price does give us a measure to go by, even if they are different types of striker. The Leeds players gave McCormack better service than Leo got last year from his team mates, and that might well have been down to our injury list but that could al be very different this year, if Leo stays. I am left a little puzzled by the fact that, with all that you point out that is correct about McCormack, and the differences between he and Leo, why is McCormack still in the champ div whilst Leo has a shot at the prem? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

3:04pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Cockwomble says...

JeffLomer wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Leicester got promoted but drag their feet in paying what Brighton sees as the right price for Ulloa, Fulham got relegated and apparently have no problem with paying around 11M for McCormack, shouldn't it have been the other way around?
Given the the long list of clubs that have gone up only to come straight back down the following season, I am left wondering why Leicester are so intent on getting Leo but let a 29 goal striker slip thu their fingers.

The bench mark has now been set, all offers for Leo can now be measured against the McCormack price. Is Ulloa worth 11M, no, is 5M enough, no, in the light of what McCormack sale a bid of around 8M would now seem to be right.
You can't compare Ross with Leo, two totally different strikers, Ross great with both feet and good in the air, he is a bit like CMS when he played for posh likes to put through and run onto the ball or he will get you a twenty five yard goal with any boot, were Leo good in the air but spends half the game telling the referee he's been felled, then he go missing when he doesn't get the decision, I said to you last week that Ross would go for a lot more than Leo the reason he is more deadly in front off goal, I'm not saying I don't rate Leo Vegas because I do, I just think Ross is the better striker in my opinion, think your spot on with your value 8million!!
mccormacks record is not great over his whole career though.1 in 3 is not worth 11m imo.cockwomble
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Leicester got promoted but drag their feet in paying what Brighton sees as the right price for Ulloa, Fulham got relegated and apparently have no problem with paying around 11M for McCormack, shouldn't it have been the other way around? Given the the long list of clubs that have gone up only to come straight back down the following season, I am left wondering why Leicester are so intent on getting Leo but let a 29 goal striker slip thu their fingers. The bench mark has now been set, all offers for Leo can now be measured against the McCormack price. Is Ulloa worth 11M, no, is 5M enough, no, in the light of what McCormack sale a bid of around 8M would now seem to be right.[/p][/quote]You can't compare Ross with Leo, two totally different strikers, Ross great with both feet and good in the air, he is a bit like CMS when he played for posh likes to put through and run onto the ball or he will get you a twenty five yard goal with any boot, were Leo good in the air but spends half the game telling the referee he's been felled, then he go missing when he doesn't get the decision, I said to you last week that Ross would go for a lot more than Leo the reason he is more deadly in front off goal, I'm not saying I don't rate Leo Vegas because I do, I just think Ross is the better striker in my opinion, think your spot on with your value 8million!![/p][/quote]mccormacks record is not great over his whole career though.1 in 3 is not worth 11m imo.cockwomble Cockwomble
  • Score: 3

3:06pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Cockwomble says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Justin wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
What's so frustrating is we have that sort of money to spend, but the suits are more excited about complying to FFP than seeing a decent team. If you want the premier league enough then you must spend, that is the reality of it. When you reach the premier league whatever you spend is comfortably negated by the untold riches from sky etc, a gamble worth taking it seems. And our owner is supposed to be quite a gambler is he not? Fulham know the risks, even with the parachute payments this is a big gamble, but they know what they want and they will do whatever is necessary to get it, not a bad philosophy really.
Is it really fair to our chairman to complain that he doesn't put enough money into the club? If it weren't for FFP, maybe he would maybe he wouldn't. But I don't see how any of us fans, who contribute a few hundred pounds a year to the club and that for something in return, can possibly criticize TB for not putting in more of his own money.
Well yes because collectively we supporters contribute untold millions to the club in return for an entertaining team. Bloom put money in to start us off but when the money is got back it is only fair to expect more to be available for a decent team. Spending 30 million on a training complex proves there's plenty of money about but constantly offering FFP as an excuse is not good enough. We need quality and to get quality we need to spend.
transfers count toward ffp.training complexs do not.you really need to learn more if you want to be a proper wum.so far you get 2/10 and falling.cockwomble
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Justin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: What's so frustrating is we have that sort of money to spend, but the suits are more excited about complying to FFP than seeing a decent team. If you want the premier league enough then you must spend, that is the reality of it. When you reach the premier league whatever you spend is comfortably negated by the untold riches from sky etc, a gamble worth taking it seems. And our owner is supposed to be quite a gambler is he not? Fulham know the risks, even with the parachute payments this is a big gamble, but they know what they want and they will do whatever is necessary to get it, not a bad philosophy really.[/p][/quote]Is it really fair to our chairman to complain that he doesn't put enough money into the club? If it weren't for FFP, maybe he would maybe he wouldn't. But I don't see how any of us fans, who contribute a few hundred pounds a year to the club and that for something in return, can possibly criticize TB for not putting in more of his own money.[/p][/quote]Well yes because collectively we supporters contribute untold millions to the club in return for an entertaining team. Bloom put money in to start us off but when the money is got back it is only fair to expect more to be available for a decent team. Spending 30 million on a training complex proves there's plenty of money about but constantly offering FFP as an excuse is not good enough. We need quality and to get quality we need to spend.[/p][/quote]transfers count toward ffp.training complexs do not.you really need to learn more if you want to be a proper wum.so far you get 2/10 and falling.cockwomble Cockwomble
  • Score: 3

3:07pm Tue 8 Jul 14

heshootshescores says...

This is what we are up against.

Couldn't agree more with the comments above about the parachute payments. They mean clubs like us, who have never been in the Premier League, start each and every season at a massive disadvantage. Maybe the time has come for salary caps in football?

How I long for the days when a tiny club like Wimbledon could advance through all four divisions...the days when we dared to dream.
This is what we are up against. Couldn't agree more with the comments above about the parachute payments. They mean clubs like us, who have never been in the Premier League, start each and every season at a massive disadvantage. Maybe the time has come for salary caps in football? How I long for the days when a tiny club like Wimbledon could advance through all four divisions...the days when we dared to dream. heshootshescores
  • Score: 3

3:12pm Tue 8 Jul 14

JeffLomer says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Leicester got promoted but drag their feet in paying what Brighton sees as the right price for Ulloa, Fulham got relegated and apparently have no problem with paying around 11M for McCormack, shouldn't it have been the other way around?
Given the the long list of clubs that have gone up only to come straight back down the following season, I am left wondering why Leicester are so intent on getting Leo but let a 29 goal striker slip thu their fingers.

The bench mark has now been set, all offers for Leo can now be measured against the McCormack price. Is Ulloa worth 11M, no, is 5M enough, no, in the light of what McCormack sale a bid of around 8M would now seem to be right.
You can't compare Ross with Leo, two totally different strikers, Ross great with both feet and good in the air, he is a bit like CMS when he played for posh likes to put through and run onto the ball or he will get you a twenty five yard goal with any boot, were Leo good in the air but spends half the game telling the referee he's been felled, then he go missing when he doesn't get the decision, I said to you last week that Ross would go for a lot more than Leo the reason he is more deadly in front off goal, I'm not saying I don't rate Leo Vegas because I do, I just think Ross is the better striker in my opinion, think your spot on with your value 8million!!
I can pretty much agree with what you are saying Jeff, that is why I said that Leo is, NOT,' a 11M pound striker, but the McCormack price does give us a measure to go by, even if they are different types of striker.
The Leeds players gave McCormack better service than Leo got last year from his team mates, and that might well have been down to our injury list but that could al be very different this year, if Leo stays.
I am left a little puzzled by the fact that, with all that you point out that is correct about McCormack, and the differences between he and Leo, why is McCormack still in the champ div whilst Leo has a shot at the prem?
I have no answer to your last two lines Vegas, but I totally agree with what you are saying, I'm still waiting for someone else to come knocking for Leo, like we discussed the other week, bidding war, but very happy if he stayed,
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Leicester got promoted but drag their feet in paying what Brighton sees as the right price for Ulloa, Fulham got relegated and apparently have no problem with paying around 11M for McCormack, shouldn't it have been the other way around? Given the the long list of clubs that have gone up only to come straight back down the following season, I am left wondering why Leicester are so intent on getting Leo but let a 29 goal striker slip thu their fingers. The bench mark has now been set, all offers for Leo can now be measured against the McCormack price. Is Ulloa worth 11M, no, is 5M enough, no, in the light of what McCormack sale a bid of around 8M would now seem to be right.[/p][/quote]You can't compare Ross with Leo, two totally different strikers, Ross great with both feet and good in the air, he is a bit like CMS when he played for posh likes to put through and run onto the ball or he will get you a twenty five yard goal with any boot, were Leo good in the air but spends half the game telling the referee he's been felled, then he go missing when he doesn't get the decision, I said to you last week that Ross would go for a lot more than Leo the reason he is more deadly in front off goal, I'm not saying I don't rate Leo Vegas because I do, I just think Ross is the better striker in my opinion, think your spot on with your value 8million!![/p][/quote]I can pretty much agree with what you are saying Jeff, that is why I said that Leo is, NOT,' a 11M pound striker, but the McCormack price does give us a measure to go by, even if they are different types of striker. The Leeds players gave McCormack better service than Leo got last year from his team mates, and that might well have been down to our injury list but that could al be very different this year, if Leo stays. I am left a little puzzled by the fact that, with all that you point out that is correct about McCormack, and the differences between he and Leo, why is McCormack still in the champ div whilst Leo has a shot at the prem?[/p][/quote]I have no answer to your last two lines Vegas, but I totally agree with what you are saying, I'm still waiting for someone else to come knocking for Leo, like we discussed the other week, bidding war, but very happy if he stayed, JeffLomer
  • Score: 2

3:13pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Fozzyboy says...

It's purchases like that that will ruin Fulham! No doubt he is on a big wage. Look's like they might do a Leeds!
It's purchases like that that will ruin Fulham! No doubt he is on a big wage. Look's like they might do a Leeds! Fozzyboy
  • Score: 1

3:38pm Tue 8 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

Jeff IMHO, I would not be surprised if we don't see another prem club come for Leo, and if it were to happen, then it would be late in the window. If Prem clubs are looking to the Champ Div for strikers, it might suggest that they have exhausted other avenues, and that won't happen until late in the window.
Leo might be seen by a prem club as a fourth striker option, much as Barnes was seen as third choice by Burnley last season. I don't think a prem club would buy his as back up, that would be a lot to pay for a fifth option striker. Being fourth in the pecking order would see him on the bench but he would probably feature in cup matches where he could stake a claim for a regular starting spot. If you are hoping for a bidding war, look to the prem clubs that have three recognized strikers rather than four.
Jeff IMHO, I would not be surprised if we don't see another prem club come for Leo, and if it were to happen, then it would be late in the window. If Prem clubs are looking to the Champ Div for strikers, it might suggest that they have exhausted other avenues, and that won't happen until late in the window. Leo might be seen by a prem club as a fourth striker option, much as Barnes was seen as third choice by Burnley last season. I don't think a prem club would buy his as back up, that would be a lot to pay for a fifth option striker. Being fourth in the pecking order would see him on the bench but he would probably feature in cup matches where he could stake a claim for a regular starting spot. If you are hoping for a bidding war, look to the prem clubs that have three recognized strikers rather than four. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

4:00pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Beale32 says...

If Leo is still here at the start of the season and bangs the goals in, then he will be gone by the end of august. If he has a bad start then he wont go anywhere.
If Leo is still here at the start of the season and bangs the goals in, then he will be gone by the end of august. If he has a bad start then he wont go anywhere. Beale32
  • Score: -1

4:33pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Mancgulled says...

Absolutely corking piece of business by Leeds - totally over the top fee from Fulham and then with the money or less than half of it ( watch it happen ) they will buy back a player that has been totally forgotten and is twice as good --
http://footballleagu
eworld.co.uk/leeds-u
nited-consider-move-
for-luciano-becchio5
67/#

...ahh well .... there goes my pipe dream ..........
Absolutely corking piece of business by Leeds - totally over the top fee from Fulham and then with the money or less than half of it ( watch it happen ) they will buy back a player that has been totally forgotten and is twice as good -- http://footballleagu eworld.co.uk/leeds-u nited-consider-move- for-luciano-becchio5 67/# ...ahh well .... there goes my pipe dream .......... Mancgulled
  • Score: 2

4:50pm Tue 8 Jul 14

JeffLomer says...

Cockwomble wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Leicester got promoted but drag their feet in paying what Brighton sees as the right price for Ulloa, Fulham got relegated and apparently have no problem with paying around 11M for McCormack, shouldn't it have been the other way around?
Given the the long list of clubs that have gone up only to come straight back down the following season, I am left wondering why Leicester are so intent on getting Leo but let a 29 goal striker slip thu their fingers.

The bench mark has now been set, all offers for Leo can now be measured against the McCormack price. Is Ulloa worth 11M, no, is 5M enough, no, in the light of what McCormack sale a bid of around 8M would now seem to be right.
You can't compare Ross with Leo, two totally different strikers, Ross great with both feet and good in the air, he is a bit like CMS when he played for posh likes to put through and run onto the ball or he will get you a twenty five yard goal with any boot, were Leo good in the air but spends half the game telling the referee he's been felled, then he go missing when he doesn't get the decision, I said to you last week that Ross would go for a lot more than Leo the reason he is more deadly in front off goal, I'm not saying I don't rate Leo Vegas because I do, I just think Ross is the better striker in my opinion, think your spot on with your value 8million!!
mccormacks record is not great over his whole career though.1 in 3 is not worth 11m imo.cockwomble
Have you ever watched Ross play, yes he might not be worth 11 million that price tag is not his thought, the lad is 27 been playing in a very poor Leeds team but still managed to end up being the championship top scorer with his team finishing 15th in the league, most players are not worth there price tag, but for Fulham to spend that on him will be money well spent if he fires them back to the premiership this season
[quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Leicester got promoted but drag their feet in paying what Brighton sees as the right price for Ulloa, Fulham got relegated and apparently have no problem with paying around 11M for McCormack, shouldn't it have been the other way around? Given the the long list of clubs that have gone up only to come straight back down the following season, I am left wondering why Leicester are so intent on getting Leo but let a 29 goal striker slip thu their fingers. The bench mark has now been set, all offers for Leo can now be measured against the McCormack price. Is Ulloa worth 11M, no, is 5M enough, no, in the light of what McCormack sale a bid of around 8M would now seem to be right.[/p][/quote]You can't compare Ross with Leo, two totally different strikers, Ross great with both feet and good in the air, he is a bit like CMS when he played for posh likes to put through and run onto the ball or he will get you a twenty five yard goal with any boot, were Leo good in the air but spends half the game telling the referee he's been felled, then he go missing when he doesn't get the decision, I said to you last week that Ross would go for a lot more than Leo the reason he is more deadly in front off goal, I'm not saying I don't rate Leo Vegas because I do, I just think Ross is the better striker in my opinion, think your spot on with your value 8million!![/p][/quote]mccormacks record is not great over his whole career though.1 in 3 is not worth 11m imo.cockwomble[/p][/quote]Have you ever watched Ross play, yes he might not be worth 11 million that price tag is not his thought, the lad is 27 been playing in a very poor Leeds team but still managed to end up being the championship top scorer with his team finishing 15th in the league, most players are not worth there price tag, but for Fulham to spend that on him will be money well spent if he fires them back to the premiership this season JeffLomer
  • Score: 2

5:23pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Chi Gull says...

Its easy to get obsessed with transfer fees and think that we have to spend millions to get out of the Championship. Plenty of clubs with parachute payments have failed to get promotion in recent years. None of us know Fulham's finances, or who they intend to sell for millions?

As fans we should be looking at what the likes of Chile and Costa Rica have achieved in the World Cup with average squads punching well above their weight. It's having a manager who builds a strong team spirit and uses innovative tactics that will get us out of this league, so lets hope Sami is a good choice. We can't rely on TBs millions for everything and he has done more than enough to give as a fantastic club to support.
Its easy to get obsessed with transfer fees and think that we have to spend millions to get out of the Championship. Plenty of clubs with parachute payments have failed to get promotion in recent years. None of us know Fulham's finances, or who they intend to sell for millions? As fans we should be looking at what the likes of Chile and Costa Rica have achieved in the World Cup with average squads punching well above their weight. It's having a manager who builds a strong team spirit and uses innovative tactics that will get us out of this league, so lets hope Sami is a good choice. We can't rely on TBs millions for everything and he has done more than enough to give as a fantastic club to support. Chi Gull
  • Score: 5

5:48pm Tue 8 Jul 14

JeffLomer says...

CantUseNSCatWork wrote:
Parachute payments = Reward for failure.
Never a truer word spoken on here all day
[quote][p][bold]CantUseNSCatWork[/bold] wrote: Parachute payments = Reward for failure.[/p][/quote]Never a truer word spoken on here all day JeffLomer
  • Score: 3

5:51pm Tue 8 Jul 14

arc12 says...

Some of the fees paid today are completely turning me off football in the modern day. Most of us struggle to pay for our season tickets and then we see transfers like this one or the Rhodes one a couple of years ago and it's almost becoming distasteful. I know it's supply and demand, but it's situations like this ridiculous fee for McCormack even at Championship level that last season saw me stop paying SKY for the prima donna Premiership. I'm losing complete interest in watching these clubs with massive egos spending obscene amounts of money when the rest of us can barely afford to go and watch a game live.
Some of the fees paid today are completely turning me off football in the modern day. Most of us struggle to pay for our season tickets and then we see transfers like this one or the Rhodes one a couple of years ago and it's almost becoming distasteful. I know it's supply and demand, but it's situations like this ridiculous fee for McCormack even at Championship level that last season saw me stop paying SKY for the prima donna Premiership. I'm losing complete interest in watching these clubs with massive egos spending obscene amounts of money when the rest of us can barely afford to go and watch a game live. arc12
  • Score: 6

6:15pm Tue 8 Jul 14

OldGull says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
What's so frustrating is we have that sort of money to spend, but the suits are more excited about complying to FFP than seeing a decent team. If you want the premier league enough then you must spend, that is the reality of it. When you reach the premier league whatever you spend is comfortably negated by the untold riches from sky etc, a gamble worth taking it seems. And our owner is supposed to be quite a gambler is he not? Fulham know the risks, even with the parachute payments this is a big gamble, but they know what they want and they will do whatever is necessary to get it, not a bad philosophy really.
Medication Time
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: What's so frustrating is we have that sort of money to spend, but the suits are more excited about complying to FFP than seeing a decent team. If you want the premier league enough then you must spend, that is the reality of it. When you reach the premier league whatever you spend is comfortably negated by the untold riches from sky etc, a gamble worth taking it seems. And our owner is supposed to be quite a gambler is he not? Fulham know the risks, even with the parachute payments this is a big gamble, but they know what they want and they will do whatever is necessary to get it, not a bad philosophy really.[/p][/quote]Medication Time OldGull
  • Score: 5

6:59pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

How can we compete with teams with parachute payments? As in the PL there is fast becoming a two tier league within the Championship.
By creating incredible team spirit, having a great attitude and working b hard.
This is what Sami's job is now. Create a team to stuff it up the likes of Fulham. UTA
How can we compete with teams with parachute payments? As in the PL there is fast becoming a two tier league within the Championship. By creating incredible team spirit, having a great attitude and working b hard. This is what Sami's job is now. Create a team to stuff it up the likes of Fulham. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 2

3:41pm Wed 9 Jul 14

tinker111 says...

Aye Aye wrote:
£11m? A fool and his money are soon parted!!
YES & Albion will never part with OWT so fans look forward to LOW Level season
[quote][p][bold]Aye Aye[/bold] wrote: £11m? A fool and his money are soon parted!![/p][/quote]YES & Albion will never part with OWT so fans look forward to LOW Level season tinker111
  • Score: -2

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