'Professional' Ward urged to keep grafting

Stephen Ward

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Wolves boss Kenny Jackett has praised the professional attitude of Albion target Stephen Ward.

But the Irish international will play no part in Wanderers’ opening pre-season friendlies.

Ward and striker Kevin Doyle are among several out-of-favour senior players training away from the main group under the guidance of former England midfielder Steve Hodge.

They will not feature at Cheltenham tonight and have been left out of the trip to Ireland on Sunday.

Jackett said: “They’re both professional and perhaps both expected it after last season.

“They knew I’d push on with the group I’ve got.

“For them it’s about working hard and getting fit. I’m sure they’ll have their eye on their next move.”

Ward and his representative are free to negotiate a move for the player.

But they have been told he must take a pay cut if he is to sign a more permanent deal with the Seagulls, for whom he starred on loan last season.

That could prove to be more of a sticking point than a potential transfer fee in the region of £100,000.

Jackett revealed Wolves had not received any bid for Ward or Doyle, who has been linked with QPR.

He said: “Nothing has happened on either of them – there has been no contact from any club.”

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11:08am Fri 11 Jul 14

Uckfield Seagull says...

Would take both Doyle and Ward, Ward was top 2 or 3 players last season, no brainer really, do I want to live in the Wolverhamtpon area or do I live in Brighton by the sea, oh yeah and Brighton have the best ground, best training facilties in the championship, potentiall best manager in the league
Would take both Doyle and Ward, Ward was top 2 or 3 players last season, no brainer really, do I want to live in the Wolverhamtpon area or do I live in Brighton by the sea, oh yeah and Brighton have the best ground, best training facilties in the championship, potentiall best manager in the league Uckfield Seagull
  • Score: 15

11:09am Fri 11 Jul 14

brightonfan34 says...

lets sign him up and pay the money to get him
lets sign him up and pay the money to get him brightonfan34
  • Score: 2

11:22am Fri 11 Jul 14

mikeygit says...

No contact from any club--for Ward?? I find that strange--I thought we wanted him back and loved it here. OK pay-cut could be a sticking point--BUT NO contact. Maybe our old friend the agent is sounding things out on the clubs behalf. Be good if Albion would come out and say whether we were interested or not!!
No contact from any club--for Ward?? I find that strange--I thought we wanted him back and loved it here. OK pay-cut could be a sticking point--BUT NO contact. Maybe our old friend the agent is sounding things out on the clubs behalf. Be good if Albion would come out and say whether we were interested or not!! mikeygit
  • Score: 11

11:29am Fri 11 Jul 14

To baldly go says...

Ward has been debated to death on this site, good yes, but with Chicksen and Maksi available at LB I don't see him coming here imo.
Doyle though is food for thought? He helped QPR get promoted last season, can score at prem level and at 30/31 will be looking to play rather than sit another season out. Wages would be a problem so do we loan him for a year paying part of his wages or offer a 2yr deal that equates to more than he is being paid by Wolves for 1 season? all depends on Ulloa!
Ward has been debated to death on this site, good yes, but with Chicksen and Maksi available at LB I don't see him coming here imo. Doyle though is food for thought? He helped QPR get promoted last season, can score at prem level and at 30/31 will be looking to play rather than sit another season out. Wages would be a problem so do we loan him for a year paying part of his wages or offer a 2yr deal that equates to more than he is being paid by Wolves for 1 season? all depends on Ulloa! To baldly go
  • Score: 7

11:40am Fri 11 Jul 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

Uckfield Seagull wrote:
Would take both Doyle and Ward, Ward was top 2 or 3 players last season, no brainer really, do I want to live in the Wolverhamtpon area or do I live in Brighton by the sea, oh yeah and Brighton have the best ground, best training facilties in the championship, potentiall best manager in the league
And Mayfield will remind us all soon, no doubt, that if either or both came to Brighton they could go on the pier too!

Reading Mayfield's inane ramblings?.... Priceless!

UTA!!
[quote][p][bold]Uckfield Seagull[/bold] wrote: Would take both Doyle and Ward, Ward was top 2 or 3 players last season, no brainer really, do I want to live in the Wolverhamtpon area or do I live in Brighton by the sea, oh yeah and Brighton have the best ground, best training facilties in the championship, potentiall best manager in the league[/p][/quote]And Mayfield will remind us all soon, no doubt, that if either or both came to Brighton they could go on the pier too! Reading Mayfield's inane ramblings?.... Priceless! UTA!! Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 14

11:54am Fri 11 Jul 14

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

mikeygit wrote:
No contact from any club--for Ward?? I find that strange--I thought we wanted him back and loved it here. OK pay-cut could be a sticking point--BUT NO contact. Maybe our old friend the agent is sounding things out on the clubs behalf. Be good if Albion would come out and say whether we were interested or not!!
Ah, but that doesn't mean to say there's been no contact between Albion and the player's agent...
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: No contact from any club--for Ward?? I find that strange--I thought we wanted him back and loved it here. OK pay-cut could be a sticking point--BUT NO contact. Maybe our old friend the agent is sounding things out on the clubs behalf. Be good if Albion would come out and say whether we were interested or not!![/p][/quote]Ah, but that doesn't mean to say there's been no contact between Albion and the player's agent... Willie, Willie Irvine
  • Score: 4

12:20pm Fri 11 Jul 14

mikeygit says...

Wilie Willi-- if you read my post that is what I said??!!!
Wilie Willi-- if you read my post that is what I said??!!! mikeygit
  • Score: 1

12:20pm Fri 11 Jul 14

ballantrrae says...

mikeygit wrote:
No contact from any club--for Ward?? I find that strange--I thought we wanted him back and loved it here. OK pay-cut could be a sticking point--BUT NO contact. Maybe our old friend the agent is sounding things out on the clubs behalf. Be good if Albion would come out and say whether we were interested or not!!
I think you are right to query 'No contact from any club' Mikeygit since Jackett was quoted in the Argus a couple of weeks back as saying that BHA had made an enquiry (not an offer) and added there hadn't been any further contact at that point.
Presumably if nobody else has expressed an interest in him, Ward is faced with a simple choice potentially.
Either join the Albion for a lower weekly wage BUT play regularly (and maintain his place in the Irish squad) or stay with Wolves draw a better wage but don't play.
I still think a compromise solution with a signing-on fee might be worth exploring if it hasn't already.
One final thought. The longer Ward remains a Wolves player (within reason) the less it costs BHA.
UTA.
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: No contact from any club--for Ward?? I find that strange--I thought we wanted him back and loved it here. OK pay-cut could be a sticking point--BUT NO contact. Maybe our old friend the agent is sounding things out on the clubs behalf. Be good if Albion would come out and say whether we were interested or not!![/p][/quote]I think you are right to query 'No contact from any club' Mikeygit since Jackett was quoted in the Argus a couple of weeks back as saying that BHA had made an enquiry (not an offer) and added there hadn't been any further contact at that point. Presumably if nobody else has expressed an interest in him, Ward is faced with a simple choice potentially. Either join the Albion for a lower weekly wage BUT play regularly (and maintain his place in the Irish squad) or stay with Wolves draw a better wage but don't play. I still think a compromise solution with a signing-on fee might be worth exploring if it hasn't already. One final thought. The longer Ward remains a Wolves player (within reason) the less it costs BHA. UTA. ballantrrae
  • Score: 4

12:28pm Fri 11 Jul 14

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

mikeygit wrote:
Wilie Willi-- if you read my post that is what I said??!!!
Yes, sorry Mikeygit, I had just realised you'd alluded to that possibility.

It will be fantastic if the club gets as far as an actual signing.
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Wilie Willi-- if you read my post that is what I said??!!![/p][/quote]Yes, sorry Mikeygit, I had just realised you'd alluded to that possibility. It will be fantastic if the club gets as far as an actual signing. Willie, Willie Irvine
  • Score: 5

1:30pm Fri 11 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

'Professional attitude,' not too sure what Jackett means by that. I don't buy in to the idea that Brighton, in one way or another, have not made contact with Ward, how else did we find out about his wage demands.

A, 'professional,' approach to this situation, IMHO, would be for Ward to recognize what a great season he had with us first and fore most. Secondly it might not be a bad idea for him to consider the fact that clubs are not beating down the door to sign him, and that isn't because he had a bad year with us, and it's not down to the fee being asked by his club, it's peanuts.
Thirdly he should be thinking one year ahead, what happens when his contract expires, if clubs are not seeking him now, will they want him once he has sat our a full season? If a club does come for him once he is a free agent, does he really think the contract will be that lucrative having sat out a season?

If the Brighton interest is real, and I think it might well be, the professional approach would be to accept the deal and get down to work with Hyypia, the start of the season is not that far away, and if we are looking for a left back we will sign one, and as things stand right now, it won't be him that puts pen to paper.
'Professional attitude,' not too sure what Jackett means by that. I don't buy in to the idea that Brighton, in one way or another, have not made contact with Ward, how else did we find out about his wage demands. A, 'professional,' approach to this situation, IMHO, would be for Ward to recognize what a great season he had with us first and fore most. Secondly it might not be a bad idea for him to consider the fact that clubs are not beating down the door to sign him, and that isn't because he had a bad year with us, and it's not down to the fee being asked by his club, it's peanuts. Thirdly he should be thinking one year ahead, what happens when his contract expires, if clubs are not seeking him now, will they want him once he has sat our a full season? If a club does come for him once he is a free agent, does he really think the contract will be that lucrative having sat out a season? If the Brighton interest is real, and I think it might well be, the professional approach would be to accept the deal and get down to work with Hyypia, the start of the season is not that far away, and if we are looking for a left back we will sign one, and as things stand right now, it won't be him that puts pen to paper. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 10

4:22pm Fri 11 Jul 14

tinker111 says...

brightonfan34 wrote:
lets sign him up and pay the money to get him
Sorry but don't think club will go above wage structure sadly for fan's but maybe Ward will be forced out by Wolves and lower his agents wage demand DO WE WANT DISCONTENDED PLAYERS .

SADLY IT come down to real big money coming in to get Albion into big time and don't think it will be in my life time
[quote][p][bold]brightonfan34[/bold] wrote: lets sign him up and pay the money to get him[/p][/quote]Sorry but don't think club will go above wage structure sadly for fan's but maybe Ward will be forced out by Wolves and lower his agents wage demand DO WE WANT DISCONTENDED PLAYERS . SADLY IT come down to real big money coming in to get Albion into big time and don't think it will be in my life time tinker111
  • Score: -3

5:01pm Fri 11 Jul 14

Piglet1 says...

All the time he stays at Wolves they pay his wages so if he is fit then we can get him at the end of the month and save £50k. Why would you not do that? Of course there have been discussions between the club and the player/agent it would be ridiculous to think this was not the case.
At the end of the day Wardy may have to accept he is a championship player and accept those wages rather than the premiership player he was when he was granted his current deal.
I think it will get done.
All the time he stays at Wolves they pay his wages so if he is fit then we can get him at the end of the month and save £50k. Why would you not do that? Of course there have been discussions between the club and the player/agent it would be ridiculous to think this was not the case. At the end of the day Wardy may have to accept he is a championship player and accept those wages rather than the premiership player he was when he was granted his current deal. I think it will get done. Piglet1
  • Score: 2

5:27pm Fri 11 Jul 14

gordongull says...

Piglet1 wrote:
All the time he stays at Wolves they pay his wages so if he is fit then we can get him at the end of the month and save £50k. Why would you not do that? Of course there have been discussions between the club and the player/agent it would be ridiculous to think this was not the case.
At the end of the day Wardy may have to accept he is a championship player and accept those wages rather than the premiership player he was when he was granted his current deal.
I think it will get done.
If I was Stephen Ward, I would be trying to arrange a repeat of last season's loan deal, with wolves paying him the £3k a week above our £10k limit.
He has a contract guaranteeing him £13k a week until the end of the season.
Why would he play for us on £10k a week, if can do exactly the same thing for £13k aweek?
[quote][p][bold]Piglet1[/bold] wrote: All the time he stays at Wolves they pay his wages so if he is fit then we can get him at the end of the month and save £50k. Why would you not do that? Of course there have been discussions between the club and the player/agent it would be ridiculous to think this was not the case. At the end of the day Wardy may have to accept he is a championship player and accept those wages rather than the premiership player he was when he was granted his current deal. I think it will get done.[/p][/quote]If I was Stephen Ward, I would be trying to arrange a repeat of last season's loan deal, with wolves paying him the £3k a week above our £10k limit. He has a contract guaranteeing him £13k a week until the end of the season. Why would he play for us on £10k a week, if can do exactly the same thing for £13k aweek? gordongull
  • Score: 1

5:38pm Fri 11 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

gordongull wrote:
Piglet1 wrote:
All the time he stays at Wolves they pay his wages so if he is fit then we can get him at the end of the month and save £50k. Why would you not do that? Of course there have been discussions between the club and the player/agent it would be ridiculous to think this was not the case.
At the end of the day Wardy may have to accept he is a championship player and accept those wages rather than the premiership player he was when he was granted his current deal.
I think it will get done.
If I was Stephen Ward, I would be trying to arrange a repeat of last season's loan deal, with wolves paying him the £3k a week above our £10k limit.
He has a contract guaranteeing him £13k a week until the end of the season.
Why would he play for us on £10k a week, if can do exactly the same thing for £13k aweek?
can see your thinking Gordon, might it be that we don't want a loan deal, perhaps we are looking for stability in that position, stability with a proven ability? Buy Ward and off load Maksi, a possibility as not sure that we need double cover at LB, and in a pinch we have Calde.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Piglet1[/bold] wrote: All the time he stays at Wolves they pay his wages so if he is fit then we can get him at the end of the month and save £50k. Why would you not do that? Of course there have been discussions between the club and the player/agent it would be ridiculous to think this was not the case. At the end of the day Wardy may have to accept he is a championship player and accept those wages rather than the premiership player he was when he was granted his current deal. I think it will get done.[/p][/quote]If I was Stephen Ward, I would be trying to arrange a repeat of last season's loan deal, with wolves paying him the £3k a week above our £10k limit. He has a contract guaranteeing him £13k a week until the end of the season. Why would he play for us on £10k a week, if can do exactly the same thing for £13k aweek?[/p][/quote]can see your thinking Gordon, might it be that we don't want a loan deal, perhaps we are looking for stability in that position, stability with a proven ability? Buy Ward and off load Maksi, a possibility as not sure that we need double cover at LB, and in a pinch we have Calde. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

5:56pm Fri 11 Jul 14

gordongull says...

He's already played in that position for a season, Vegas, - looks like stability to me. It would get us over the wages issue, and at the end of the season he would have the option of of signing on less money, or finding another club. Also, Chicksen could take over at that point.
You have commented that we will probably be looking for a few loan deals, so why not for that position?
He's already played in that position for a season, Vegas, - looks like stability to me. It would get us over the wages issue, and at the end of the season he would have the option of of signing on less money, or finding another club. Also, Chicksen could take over at that point. You have commented that we will probably be looking for a few loan deals, so why not for that position? gordongull
  • Score: 1

6:12pm Fri 11 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

gordongull wrote:
He's already played in that position for a season, Vegas, - looks like stability to me. It would get us over the wages issue, and at the end of the season he would have the option of of signing on less money, or finding another club. Also, Chicksen could take over at that point.
You have commented that we will probably be looking for a few loan deals, so why not for that position?
I see your point. The reason why I say, 'stability,' is simply because we haven't had any at LB for the last couple of seasons. We had Bridge and he went. We got Ward on loan but not signed for this season, if he comes on loan again we will be back where we are now come next season. Yes he might sign next season but he might not. Surely it would be better for us to at least know that for two seasons we have that position covered.

I would prefer that we direct our attention for loanees to areas of the park where it will cost decent money to buy. Lingard attacking midfield an example, a striker and maybe a playmaker in midfield on loan would help.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: He's already played in that position for a season, Vegas, - looks like stability to me. It would get us over the wages issue, and at the end of the season he would have the option of of signing on less money, or finding another club. Also, Chicksen could take over at that point. You have commented that we will probably be looking for a few loan deals, so why not for that position?[/p][/quote]I see your point. The reason why I say, 'stability,' is simply because we haven't had any at LB for the last couple of seasons. We had Bridge and he went. We got Ward on loan but not signed for this season, if he comes on loan again we will be back where we are now come next season. Yes he might sign next season but he might not. Surely it would be better for us to at least know that for two seasons we have that position covered. I would prefer that we direct our attention for loanees to areas of the park where it will cost decent money to buy. Lingard attacking midfield an example, a striker and maybe a playmaker in midfield on loan would help. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

6:22pm Fri 11 Jul 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

gordongull wrote:
Piglet1 wrote:
All the time he stays at Wolves they pay his wages so if he is fit then we can get him at the end of the month and save £50k. Why would you not do that? Of course there have been discussions between the club and the player/agent it would be ridiculous to think this was not the case.
At the end of the day Wardy may have to accept he is a championship player and accept those wages rather than the premiership player he was when he was granted his current deal.
I think it will get done.
If I was Stephen Ward, I would be trying to arrange a repeat of last season's loan deal, with wolves paying him the £3k a week above our £10k limit.
He has a contract guaranteeing him £13k a week until the end of the season.
Why would he play for us on £10k a week, if can do exactly the same thing for £13k aweek?
The only thing is GG he will not be playing for Wolves first team might get lucky if they have injury probs.

He will be a year older and not in the limelight get a £6k per week offer,next season,from ?.

If Albion stick to their max wages offer take my hat off,think he has not earned badly throughout his career.

Thought he loved his time here if Albion have made an offer ? Wolves are happy he(agent) say no.
All i can say is you don't wanna do it like that.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Piglet1[/bold] wrote: All the time he stays at Wolves they pay his wages so if he is fit then we can get him at the end of the month and save £50k. Why would you not do that? Of course there have been discussions between the club and the player/agent it would be ridiculous to think this was not the case. At the end of the day Wardy may have to accept he is a championship player and accept those wages rather than the premiership player he was when he was granted his current deal. I think it will get done.[/p][/quote]If I was Stephen Ward, I would be trying to arrange a repeat of last season's loan deal, with wolves paying him the £3k a week above our £10k limit. He has a contract guaranteeing him £13k a week until the end of the season. Why would he play for us on £10k a week, if can do exactly the same thing for £13k aweek?[/p][/quote]The only thing is GG he will not be playing for Wolves first team might get lucky if they have injury probs. He will be a year older and not in the limelight get a £6k per week offer,next season,from ?. If Albion stick to their max wages offer take my hat off,think he has not earned badly throughout his career. Thought he loved his time here if Albion have made an offer ? Wolves are happy he(agent) say no. All i can say is you don't wanna do it like that. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 2

6:22pm Fri 11 Jul 14

To baldly go says...

With Chicksen and Maksi already on the books and probably costing less in combined wages than Ward would cost on his own, I cannot see it happening! To be spending £500k on wages plus a transfer fee of say £200k on top of that when we have 2 decent young players in that position already doesn't make economic sense imo!
Spend that money else where, keeper/centre backs, a midfielder and another striker are more important at the moment.
4 weeks tomorrow is our first match, we have a small but fit squad at the moment so can probably get through the first few games as we are, but get a couple of injuries in training or friendly games and we could be in the proverbial and struggle to get out of it.
With Chicksen and Maksi already on the books and probably costing less in combined wages than Ward would cost on his own, I cannot see it happening! To be spending £500k on wages plus a transfer fee of say £200k on top of that when we have 2 decent young players in that position already doesn't make economic sense imo! Spend that money else where, keeper/centre backs, a midfielder and another striker are more important at the moment. 4 weeks tomorrow is our first match, we have a small but fit squad at the moment so can probably get through the first few games as we are, but get a couple of injuries in training or friendly games and we could be in the proverbial and struggle to get out of it. To baldly go
  • Score: 0

6:35pm Fri 11 Jul 14

gordongull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
gordongull wrote:
He's already played in that position for a season, Vegas, - looks like stability to me. It would get us over the wages issue, and at the end of the season he would have the option of of signing on less money, or finding another club. Also, Chicksen could take over at that point.
You have commented that we will probably be looking for a few loan deals, so why not for that position?
I see your point. The reason why I say, 'stability,' is simply because we haven't had any at LB for the last couple of seasons. We had Bridge and he went. We got Ward on loan but not signed for this season, if he comes on loan again we will be back where we are now come next season. Yes he might sign next season but he might not. Surely it would be better for us to at least know that for two seasons we have that position covered.

I would prefer that we direct our attention for loanees to areas of the park where it will cost decent money to buy. Lingard attacking midfield an example, a striker and maybe a playmaker in midfield on loan would help.
Left-back has been our strongest position for the last two seasons because of Premier League quality loan players, but I agree there is a valid case for concentrating on positions where a high purchase price is likely, when entering the loan market.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: He's already played in that position for a season, Vegas, - looks like stability to me. It would get us over the wages issue, and at the end of the season he would have the option of of signing on less money, or finding another club. Also, Chicksen could take over at that point. You have commented that we will probably be looking for a few loan deals, so why not for that position?[/p][/quote]I see your point. The reason why I say, 'stability,' is simply because we haven't had any at LB for the last couple of seasons. We had Bridge and he went. We got Ward on loan but not signed for this season, if he comes on loan again we will be back where we are now come next season. Yes he might sign next season but he might not. Surely it would be better for us to at least know that for two seasons we have that position covered. I would prefer that we direct our attention for loanees to areas of the park where it will cost decent money to buy. Lingard attacking midfield an example, a striker and maybe a playmaker in midfield on loan would help.[/p][/quote]Left-back has been our strongest position for the last two seasons because of Premier League quality loan players, but I agree there is a valid case for concentrating on positions where a high purchase price is likely, when entering the loan market. gordongull
  • Score: 2

6:41pm Fri 11 Jul 14

gordongull says...

don't wanna do it like that wrote:
gordongull wrote:
Piglet1 wrote:
All the time he stays at Wolves they pay his wages so if he is fit then we can get him at the end of the month and save £50k. Why would you not do that? Of course there have been discussions between the club and the player/agent it would be ridiculous to think this was not the case.
At the end of the day Wardy may have to accept he is a championship player and accept those wages rather than the premiership player he was when he was granted his current deal.
I think it will get done.
If I was Stephen Ward, I would be trying to arrange a repeat of last season's loan deal, with wolves paying him the £3k a week above our £10k limit.
He has a contract guaranteeing him £13k a week until the end of the season.
Why would he play for us on £10k a week, if can do exactly the same thing for £13k aweek?
The only thing is GG he will not be playing for Wolves first team might get lucky if they have injury probs.

He will be a year older and not in the limelight get a £6k per week offer,next season,from ?.

If Albion stick to their max wages offer take my hat off,think he has not earned badly throughout his career.

Thought he loved his time here if Albion have made an offer ? Wolves are happy he(agent) say no.
All i can say is you don't wanna do it like that.
I'm not suggesting that he stays at Wolves, Don't Wanna.
I'm saying he should get another loan deal at Brighton and Hove Albion.
[quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Piglet1[/bold] wrote: All the time he stays at Wolves they pay his wages so if he is fit then we can get him at the end of the month and save £50k. Why would you not do that? Of course there have been discussions between the club and the player/agent it would be ridiculous to think this was not the case. At the end of the day Wardy may have to accept he is a championship player and accept those wages rather than the premiership player he was when he was granted his current deal. I think it will get done.[/p][/quote]If I was Stephen Ward, I would be trying to arrange a repeat of last season's loan deal, with wolves paying him the £3k a week above our £10k limit. He has a contract guaranteeing him £13k a week until the end of the season. Why would he play for us on £10k a week, if can do exactly the same thing for £13k aweek?[/p][/quote]The only thing is GG he will not be playing for Wolves first team might get lucky if they have injury probs. He will be a year older and not in the limelight get a £6k per week offer,next season,from ?. If Albion stick to their max wages offer take my hat off,think he has not earned badly throughout his career. Thought he loved his time here if Albion have made an offer ? Wolves are happy he(agent) say no. All i can say is you don't wanna do it like that.[/p][/quote]I'm not suggesting that he stays at Wolves, Don't Wanna. I'm saying he should get another loan deal at Brighton and Hove Albion. gordongull
  • Score: 1

6:52pm Fri 11 Jul 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

gordongull wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
gordongull wrote:
Piglet1 wrote:
All the time he stays at Wolves they pay his wages so if he is fit then we can get him at the end of the month and save £50k. Why would you not do that? Of course there have been discussions between the club and the player/agent it would be ridiculous to think this was not the case.
At the end of the day Wardy may have to accept he is a championship player and accept those wages rather than the premiership player he was when he was granted his current deal.
I think it will get done.
If I was Stephen Ward, I would be trying to arrange a repeat of last season's loan deal, with wolves paying him the £3k a week above our £10k limit.
He has a contract guaranteeing him £13k a week until the end of the season.
Why would he play for us on £10k a week, if can do exactly the same thing for £13k aweek?
The only thing is GG he will not be playing for Wolves first team might get lucky if they have injury probs.

He will be a year older and not in the limelight get a £6k per week offer,next season,from ?.

If Albion stick to their max wages offer take my hat off,think he has not earned badly throughout his career.

Thought he loved his time here if Albion have made an offer ? Wolves are happy he(agent) say no.
All i can say is you don't wanna do it like that.
I'm not suggesting that he stays at Wolves, Don't Wanna.
I'm saying he should get another loan deal at Brighton and Hove Albion.
Whose deal Albion's or Ward's.

Wolves would i am certain be happy to get him off their books.

Who is holding who to randsom,has any other team come in for Ward.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Piglet1[/bold] wrote: All the time he stays at Wolves they pay his wages so if he is fit then we can get him at the end of the month and save £50k. Why would you not do that? Of course there have been discussions between the club and the player/agent it would be ridiculous to think this was not the case. At the end of the day Wardy may have to accept he is a championship player and accept those wages rather than the premiership player he was when he was granted his current deal. I think it will get done.[/p][/quote]If I was Stephen Ward, I would be trying to arrange a repeat of last season's loan deal, with wolves paying him the £3k a week above our £10k limit. He has a contract guaranteeing him £13k a week until the end of the season. Why would he play for us on £10k a week, if can do exactly the same thing for £13k aweek?[/p][/quote]The only thing is GG he will not be playing for Wolves first team might get lucky if they have injury probs. He will be a year older and not in the limelight get a £6k per week offer,next season,from ?. If Albion stick to their max wages offer take my hat off,think he has not earned badly throughout his career. Thought he loved his time here if Albion have made an offer ? Wolves are happy he(agent) say no. All i can say is you don't wanna do it like that.[/p][/quote]I'm not suggesting that he stays at Wolves, Don't Wanna. I'm saying he should get another loan deal at Brighton and Hove Albion.[/p][/quote]Whose deal Albion's or Ward's. Wolves would i am certain be happy to get him off their books. Who is holding who to randsom,has any other team come in for Ward. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 1

7:04pm Fri 11 Jul 14

gordongull says...

don't wanna do it like that wrote:
gordongull wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
gordongull wrote:
Piglet1 wrote:
All the time he stays at Wolves they pay his wages so if he is fit then we can get him at the end of the month and save £50k. Why would you not do that? Of course there have been discussions between the club and the player/agent it would be ridiculous to think this was not the case.
At the end of the day Wardy may have to accept he is a championship player and accept those wages rather than the premiership player he was when he was granted his current deal.
I think it will get done.
If I was Stephen Ward, I would be trying to arrange a repeat of last season's loan deal, with wolves paying him the £3k a week above our £10k limit.
He has a contract guaranteeing him £13k a week until the end of the season.
Why would he play for us on £10k a week, if can do exactly the same thing for £13k aweek?
The only thing is GG he will not be playing for Wolves first team might get lucky if they have injury probs.

He will be a year older and not in the limelight get a £6k per week offer,next season,from ?.

If Albion stick to their max wages offer take my hat off,think he has not earned badly throughout his career.

Thought he loved his time here if Albion have made an offer ? Wolves are happy he(agent) say no.
All i can say is you don't wanna do it like that.
I'm not suggesting that he stays at Wolves, Don't Wanna.
I'm saying he should get another loan deal at Brighton and Hove Albion.
Whose deal Albion's or Ward's.

Wolves would i am certain be happy to get him off their books.

Who is holding who to randsom,has any other team come in for Ward.
Ward is holding all the aces.
Wolves can pay him £13k a week, or £3k a week.
It is up to them.
[quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Piglet1[/bold] wrote: All the time he stays at Wolves they pay his wages so if he is fit then we can get him at the end of the month and save £50k. Why would you not do that? Of course there have been discussions between the club and the player/agent it would be ridiculous to think this was not the case. At the end of the day Wardy may have to accept he is a championship player and accept those wages rather than the premiership player he was when he was granted his current deal. I think it will get done.[/p][/quote]If I was Stephen Ward, I would be trying to arrange a repeat of last season's loan deal, with wolves paying him the £3k a week above our £10k limit. He has a contract guaranteeing him £13k a week until the end of the season. Why would he play for us on £10k a week, if can do exactly the same thing for £13k aweek?[/p][/quote]The only thing is GG he will not be playing for Wolves first team might get lucky if they have injury probs. He will be a year older and not in the limelight get a £6k per week offer,next season,from ?. If Albion stick to their max wages offer take my hat off,think he has not earned badly throughout his career. Thought he loved his time here if Albion have made an offer ? Wolves are happy he(agent) say no. All i can say is you don't wanna do it like that.[/p][/quote]I'm not suggesting that he stays at Wolves, Don't Wanna. I'm saying he should get another loan deal at Brighton and Hove Albion.[/p][/quote]Whose deal Albion's or Ward's. Wolves would i am certain be happy to get him off their books. Who is holding who to randsom,has any other team come in for Ward.[/p][/quote]Ward is holding all the aces. Wolves can pay him £13k a week, or £3k a week. It is up to them. gordongull
  • Score: 3

8:36pm Fri 11 Jul 14

Jules boy says...

tinker111 wrote:
brightonfan34 wrote:
lets sign him up and pay the money to get him
Sorry but don't think club will go above wage structure sadly for fan's but maybe Ward will be forced out by Wolves and lower his agents wage demand DO WE WANT DISCONTENDED PLAYERS .

SADLY IT come down to real big money coming in to get Albion into big time and don't think it will be in my life time
You must be knocking on a bit then?
[quote][p][bold]tinker111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brightonfan34[/bold] wrote: lets sign him up and pay the money to get him[/p][/quote]Sorry but don't think club will go above wage structure sadly for fan's but maybe Ward will be forced out by Wolves and lower his agents wage demand DO WE WANT DISCONTENDED PLAYERS . SADLY IT come down to real big money coming in to get Albion into big time and don't think it will be in my life time[/p][/quote]You must be knocking on a bit then? Jules boy
  • Score: 2

8:40pm Fri 11 Jul 14

championshipgull says...

Just a couple of thoughts as I was reading the thread. Getting at least one centre back signed must be a high priority and I would think in progress. Some left sided centre backs can also play on the left wing, so could be affecting the reasoning with Ward, also some suggestion we might play more like 3-5-2, if so are we going to need an expensive left back anyway when we already have Chicksen and Maksi. (rhetorical) ish. Incidentally while I am here I think Maski especially is being underestimated by some fans IMHO when I have seen him play he has looked like a good first teamer at Championship level.
Just a couple of thoughts as I was reading the thread. Getting at least one centre back signed must be a high priority and I would think in progress. Some left sided centre backs can also play on the left wing, so could be affecting the reasoning with Ward, also some suggestion we might play more like 3-5-2, if so are we going to need an expensive left back anyway when we already have Chicksen and Maksi. (rhetorical) ish. Incidentally while I am here I think Maski especially is being underestimated by some fans IMHO when I have seen him play he has looked like a good first teamer at Championship level. championshipgull
  • Score: 6

9:08pm Fri 11 Jul 14

championshipgull says...

championshipgull wrote:
Just a couple of thoughts as I was reading the thread. Getting at least one centre back signed must be a high priority and I would think in progress. Some left sided centre backs can also play on the left wing, so could be affecting the reasoning with Ward, also some suggestion we might play more like 3-5-2, if so are we going to need an expensive left back anyway when we already have Chicksen and Maksi. (rhetorical) ish. Incidentally while I am here I think Maski especially is being underestimated by some fans IMHO when I have seen him play he has looked like a good first teamer at Championship level.
Meant, out on the left or left back, not so much left wing anyway where Ward plays most of the time
[quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: Just a couple of thoughts as I was reading the thread. Getting at least one centre back signed must be a high priority and I would think in progress. Some left sided centre backs can also play on the left wing, so could be affecting the reasoning with Ward, also some suggestion we might play more like 3-5-2, if so are we going to need an expensive left back anyway when we already have Chicksen and Maksi. (rhetorical) ish. Incidentally while I am here I think Maski especially is being underestimated by some fans IMHO when I have seen him play he has looked like a good first teamer at Championship level.[/p][/quote]Meant, out on the left or left back, not so much left wing anyway where Ward plays most of the time championshipgull
  • Score: 4

10:13pm Fri 11 Jul 14

gordongull says...

championshipgull wrote:
championshipgull wrote:
Just a couple of thoughts as I was reading the thread. Getting at least one centre back signed must be a high priority and I would think in progress. Some left sided centre backs can also play on the left wing, so could be affecting the reasoning with Ward, also some suggestion we might play more like 3-5-2, if so are we going to need an expensive left back anyway when we already have Chicksen and Maksi. (rhetorical) ish. Incidentally while I am here I think Maski especially is being underestimated by some fans IMHO when I have seen him play he has looked like a good first teamer at Championship level.
Meant, out on the left or left back, not so much left wing anyway where Ward plays most of the time
Interesting points, Championshipgull, but we have been in contact with Wolves since Sami was appointed, and also, according to the Argus, ''New Seagulls boss Sami Hyypia is believed to be keen to land the Irish international left-back on a permanent basis after he impressed on loan last season under Oscar Garcia. But Ward's wages and the fee demanded by Wolves for the 28-year-old are hurdles in completing a deal.''
It looks like we do want him back, and money is the only issue.
[quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: Just a couple of thoughts as I was reading the thread. Getting at least one centre back signed must be a high priority and I would think in progress. Some left sided centre backs can also play on the left wing, so could be affecting the reasoning with Ward, also some suggestion we might play more like 3-5-2, if so are we going to need an expensive left back anyway when we already have Chicksen and Maksi. (rhetorical) ish. Incidentally while I am here I think Maski especially is being underestimated by some fans IMHO when I have seen him play he has looked like a good first teamer at Championship level.[/p][/quote]Meant, out on the left or left back, not so much left wing anyway where Ward plays most of the time[/p][/quote]Interesting points, Championshipgull, but we have been in contact with Wolves since Sami was appointed, and also, according to the Argus, ''New Seagulls boss Sami Hyypia is believed to be keen to land the Irish international left-back on a permanent basis after he impressed on loan last season under Oscar Garcia. But Ward's wages and the fee demanded by Wolves for the 28-year-old are hurdles in completing a deal.'' It looks like we do want him back, and money is the only issue. gordongull
  • Score: 2

10:47pm Fri 11 Jul 14

championshipgull says...

gordongull wrote:
championshipgull wrote:
championshipgull wrote:
Just a couple of thoughts as I was reading the thread. Getting at least one centre back signed must be a high priority and I would think in progress. Some left sided centre backs can also play on the left wing, so could be affecting the reasoning with Ward, also some suggestion we might play more like 3-5-2, if so are we going to need an expensive left back anyway when we already have Chicksen and Maksi. (rhetorical) ish. Incidentally while I am here I think Maski especially is being underestimated by some fans IMHO when I have seen him play he has looked like a good first teamer at Championship level.
Meant, out on the left or left back, not so much left wing anyway where Ward plays most of the time
Interesting points, Championshipgull, but we have been in contact with Wolves since Sami was appointed, and also, according to the Argus, ''New Seagulls boss Sami Hyypia is believed to be keen to land the Irish international left-back on a permanent basis after he impressed on loan last season under Oscar Garcia. But Ward's wages and the fee demanded by Wolves for the 28-year-old are hurdles in completing a deal.''
It looks like we do want him back, and money is the only issue.
Yes it’s a bit contrasting with this article as
mikeygit says...11.22am
“No contact from any club--for Ward?? I find that strange--I thought we wanted him back.”
I have got to agree with mikeygit
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: Just a couple of thoughts as I was reading the thread. Getting at least one centre back signed must be a high priority and I would think in progress. Some left sided centre backs can also play on the left wing, so could be affecting the reasoning with Ward, also some suggestion we might play more like 3-5-2, if so are we going to need an expensive left back anyway when we already have Chicksen and Maksi. (rhetorical) ish. Incidentally while I am here I think Maski especially is being underestimated by some fans IMHO when I have seen him play he has looked like a good first teamer at Championship level.[/p][/quote]Meant, out on the left or left back, not so much left wing anyway where Ward plays most of the time[/p][/quote]Interesting points, Championshipgull, but we have been in contact with Wolves since Sami was appointed, and also, according to the Argus, ''New Seagulls boss Sami Hyypia is believed to be keen to land the Irish international left-back on a permanent basis after he impressed on loan last season under Oscar Garcia. But Ward's wages and the fee demanded by Wolves for the 28-year-old are hurdles in completing a deal.'' It looks like we do want him back, and money is the only issue.[/p][/quote]Yes it’s a bit contrasting with this article as mikeygit says...11.22am “No contact from any club--for Ward?? I find that strange--I thought we wanted him back.” I have got to agree with mikeygit championshipgull
  • Score: 2

11:00pm Fri 11 Jul 14

gordongull says...

Here is an excerpt from an article on this site 12 days ago:

........ Jackett said: "There has been some contact with Jez (Moxey, chief executive) – Brighton have been in touch during the course of the summer.
It’s dovetailed with them appointing a new manager. Nothing has been agreed so there's enough of a distance for a deal not to have been done yet.
But at least there has been some contact. They've expressed an interest through the summer.......''

Not exactly 'no contact from any club'.
Here is an excerpt from an article on this site 12 days ago: ........ Jackett said: "There has been some contact with Jez (Moxey, chief executive) – Brighton have been in touch during the course of the summer. It’s dovetailed with them appointing a new manager. Nothing has been agreed so there's enough of a distance for a deal not to have been done yet. But at least there has been some contact. They've expressed an interest through the summer.......'' Not exactly 'no contact from any club'. gordongull
  • Score: 2

11:16pm Fri 11 Jul 14

Bucket feet Duffy says...

gordongull wrote:
Piglet1 wrote:
All the time he stays at Wolves they pay his wages so if he is fit then we can get him at the end of the month and save £50k. Why would you not do that? Of course there have been discussions between the club and the player/agent it would be ridiculous to think this was not the case.
At the end of the day Wardy may have to accept he is a championship player and accept those wages rather than the premiership player he was when he was granted his current deal.
I think it will get done.
If I was Stephen Ward, I would be trying to arrange a repeat of last season's loan deal, with wolves paying him the £3k a week above our £10k limit.
He has a contract guaranteeing him £13k a week until the end of the season.
Why would he play for us on £10k a week, if can do exactly the same thing for £13k aweek?
Maybe the club want to pay less than 10k a week?
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Piglet1[/bold] wrote: All the time he stays at Wolves they pay his wages so if he is fit then we can get him at the end of the month and save £50k. Why would you not do that? Of course there have been discussions between the club and the player/agent it would be ridiculous to think this was not the case. At the end of the day Wardy may have to accept he is a championship player and accept those wages rather than the premiership player he was when he was granted his current deal. I think it will get done.[/p][/quote]If I was Stephen Ward, I would be trying to arrange a repeat of last season's loan deal, with wolves paying him the £3k a week above our £10k limit. He has a contract guaranteeing him £13k a week until the end of the season. Why would he play for us on £10k a week, if can do exactly the same thing for £13k aweek?[/p][/quote]Maybe the club want to pay less than 10k a week? Bucket feet Duffy
  • Score: 1

11:20pm Fri 11 Jul 14

Cockwomble says...

tinker111 wrote:
brightonfan34 wrote:
lets sign him up and pay the money to get him
Sorry but don't think club will go above wage structure sadly for fan's but maybe Ward will be forced out by Wolves and lower his agents wage demand DO WE WANT DISCONTENDED PLAYERS .

SADLY IT come down to real big money coming in to get Albion into big time and don't think it will be in my life time
cockwomble
[quote][p][bold]tinker111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brightonfan34[/bold] wrote: lets sign him up and pay the money to get him[/p][/quote]Sorry but don't think club will go above wage structure sadly for fan's but maybe Ward will be forced out by Wolves and lower his agents wage demand DO WE WANT DISCONTENDED PLAYERS . SADLY IT come down to real big money coming in to get Albion into big time and don't think it will be in my life time[/p][/quote]cockwomble Cockwomble
  • Score: 4

11:23pm Fri 11 Jul 14

gordongull says...

Bucket feet Duffy wrote:
gordongull wrote:
Piglet1 wrote:
All the time he stays at Wolves they pay his wages so if he is fit then we can get him at the end of the month and save £50k. Why would you not do that? Of course there have been discussions between the club and the player/agent it would be ridiculous to think this was not the case.
At the end of the day Wardy may have to accept he is a championship player and accept those wages rather than the premiership player he was when he was granted his current deal.
I think it will get done.
If I was Stephen Ward, I would be trying to arrange a repeat of last season's loan deal, with wolves paying him the £3k a week above our £10k limit.
He has a contract guaranteeing him £13k a week until the end of the season.
Why would he play for us on £10k a week, if can do exactly the same thing for £13k aweek?
Maybe the club want to pay less than 10k a week?
Okay, BFD, so we pay him £8k a week, and Wolves pick up the other £5k.
It still costs them a lot less than paying the full £13k a week to a player who does not figure in their plans.
[quote][p][bold]Bucket feet Duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Piglet1[/bold] wrote: All the time he stays at Wolves they pay his wages so if he is fit then we can get him at the end of the month and save £50k. Why would you not do that? Of course there have been discussions between the club and the player/agent it would be ridiculous to think this was not the case. At the end of the day Wardy may have to accept he is a championship player and accept those wages rather than the premiership player he was when he was granted his current deal. I think it will get done.[/p][/quote]If I was Stephen Ward, I would be trying to arrange a repeat of last season's loan deal, with wolves paying him the £3k a week above our £10k limit. He has a contract guaranteeing him £13k a week until the end of the season. Why would he play for us on £10k a week, if can do exactly the same thing for £13k aweek?[/p][/quote]Maybe the club want to pay less than 10k a week?[/p][/quote]Okay, BFD, so we pay him £8k a week, and Wolves pick up the other £5k. It still costs them a lot less than paying the full £13k a week to a player who does not figure in their plans. gordongull
  • Score: 2

11:36pm Fri 11 Jul 14

gordongull says...

Before anyone points out that another club is very likely to come in and offer to pay a larger slice of his wages, I should add that Ward has no incentive to accept.
He gets his £13k a week whatever happens, and B&HA is his preferred destination.
Before anyone points out that another club is very likely to come in and offer to pay a larger slice of his wages, I should add that Ward has no incentive to accept. He gets his £13k a week whatever happens, and B&HA is his preferred destination. gordongull
  • Score: 1

12:01am Sat 12 Jul 14

championshipgull says...

gordongull wrote:
Here is an excerpt from an article on this site 12 days ago:

........ Jackett said: "There has been some contact with Jez (Moxey, chief executive) – Brighton have been in touch during the course of the summer.
It’s dovetailed with them appointing a new manager. Nothing has been agreed so there's enough of a distance for a deal not to have been done yet.
But at least there has been some contact. They've expressed an interest through the summer.......''

Not exactly 'no contact from any club'.
12 days ago
Jackett "There has been some contact with Jez (Moxey, chief executive) – Brighton have been in touch during the course of the summer.
Today
Jackett “Nothing has happened on either of them – there has been no contact from any club.”

Strange, Can’t both be accurate quotes unless Kenny is getting forgetful in his old age. Or does he mean recently, re todays quote. If we really want Ward back surely there would have been some recent contact with the club even via an agent.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: Here is an excerpt from an article on this site 12 days ago: ........ Jackett said: "There has been some contact with Jez (Moxey, chief executive) – Brighton have been in touch during the course of the summer. It’s dovetailed with them appointing a new manager. Nothing has been agreed so there's enough of a distance for a deal not to have been done yet. But at least there has been some contact. They've expressed an interest through the summer.......'' Not exactly 'no contact from any club'.[/p][/quote]12 days ago Jackett "There has been some contact with Jez (Moxey, chief executive) – Brighton have been in touch during the course of the summer. Today Jackett “Nothing has happened on either of them – there has been no contact from any club.” Strange, Can’t both be accurate quotes unless Kenny is getting forgetful in his old age. Or does he mean recently, re todays quote. If we really want Ward back surely there would have been some recent contact with the club even via an agent. championshipgull
  • Score: 3

12:13am Sat 12 Jul 14

rolivan says...

gordongull wrote:
Bucket feet Duffy wrote:
gordongull wrote:
Piglet1 wrote:
All the time he stays at Wolves they pay his wages so if he is fit then we can get him at the end of the month and save £50k. Why would you not do that? Of course there have been discussions between the club and the player/agent it would be ridiculous to think this was not the case.
At the end of the day Wardy may have to accept he is a championship player and accept those wages rather than the premiership player he was when he was granted his current deal.
I think it will get done.
If I was Stephen Ward, I would be trying to arrange a repeat of last season's loan deal, with wolves paying him the £3k a week above our £10k limit.
He has a contract guaranteeing him £13k a week until the end of the season.
Why would he play for us on £10k a week, if can do exactly the same thing for £13k aweek?
Maybe the club want to pay less than 10k a week?
Okay, BFD, so we pay him £8k a week, and Wolves pick up the other £5k.
It still costs them a lot less than paying the full £13k a week to a player who does not figure in their plans.
Not only that but where do you find a Championship Quality player for £100,000 if that price is correct.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bucket feet Duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Piglet1[/bold] wrote: All the time he stays at Wolves they pay his wages so if he is fit then we can get him at the end of the month and save £50k. Why would you not do that? Of course there have been discussions between the club and the player/agent it would be ridiculous to think this was not the case. At the end of the day Wardy may have to accept he is a championship player and accept those wages rather than the premiership player he was when he was granted his current deal. I think it will get done.[/p][/quote]If I was Stephen Ward, I would be trying to arrange a repeat of last season's loan deal, with wolves paying him the £3k a week above our £10k limit. He has a contract guaranteeing him £13k a week until the end of the season. Why would he play for us on £10k a week, if can do exactly the same thing for £13k aweek?[/p][/quote]Maybe the club want to pay less than 10k a week?[/p][/quote]Okay, BFD, so we pay him £8k a week, and Wolves pick up the other £5k. It still costs them a lot less than paying the full £13k a week to a player who does not figure in their plans.[/p][/quote]Not only that but where do you find a Championship Quality player for £100,000 if that price is correct. rolivan
  • Score: 1

1:11am Sat 12 Jul 14

gordongull says...

rolivan wrote:
gordongull wrote:
Bucket feet Duffy wrote:
gordongull wrote:
Piglet1 wrote:
All the time he stays at Wolves they pay his wages so if he is fit then we can get him at the end of the month and save £50k. Why would you not do that? Of course there have been discussions between the club and the player/agent it would be ridiculous to think this was not the case.
At the end of the day Wardy may have to accept he is a championship player and accept those wages rather than the premiership player he was when he was granted his current deal.
I think it will get done.
If I was Stephen Ward, I would be trying to arrange a repeat of last season's loan deal, with wolves paying him the £3k a week above our £10k limit.
He has a contract guaranteeing him £13k a week until the end of the season.
Why would he play for us on £10k a week, if can do exactly the same thing for £13k aweek?
Maybe the club want to pay less than 10k a week?
Okay, BFD, so we pay him £8k a week, and Wolves pick up the other £5k.
It still costs them a lot less than paying the full £13k a week to a player who does not figure in their plans.
Not only that but where do you find a Championship Quality player for £100,000 if that price is correct.
I don't think we will get him on a more permanent contract, Rolivan.
He won't agree to the drop in wages.
[quote][p][bold]rolivan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bucket feet Duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Piglet1[/bold] wrote: All the time he stays at Wolves they pay his wages so if he is fit then we can get him at the end of the month and save £50k. Why would you not do that? Of course there have been discussions between the club and the player/agent it would be ridiculous to think this was not the case. At the end of the day Wardy may have to accept he is a championship player and accept those wages rather than the premiership player he was when he was granted his current deal. I think it will get done.[/p][/quote]If I was Stephen Ward, I would be trying to arrange a repeat of last season's loan deal, with wolves paying him the £3k a week above our £10k limit. He has a contract guaranteeing him £13k a week until the end of the season. Why would he play for us on £10k a week, if can do exactly the same thing for £13k aweek?[/p][/quote]Maybe the club want to pay less than 10k a week?[/p][/quote]Okay, BFD, so we pay him £8k a week, and Wolves pick up the other £5k. It still costs them a lot less than paying the full £13k a week to a player who does not figure in their plans.[/p][/quote]Not only that but where do you find a Championship Quality player for £100,000 if that price is correct.[/p][/quote]I don't think we will get him on a more permanent contract, Rolivan. He won't agree to the drop in wages. gordongull
  • Score: 1

6:35am Sat 12 Jul 14

Quiterie says...

rolivan wrote:
gordongull wrote:
Bucket feet Duffy wrote:
gordongull wrote:
Piglet1 wrote:
All the time he stays at Wolves they pay his wages so if he is fit then we can get him at the end of the month and save £50k. Why would you not do that? Of course there have been discussions between the club and the player/agent it would be ridiculous to think this was not the case.
At the end of the day Wardy may have to accept he is a championship player and accept those wages rather than the premiership player he was when he was granted his current deal.
I think it will get done.
If I was Stephen Ward, I would be trying to arrange a repeat of last season's loan deal, with wolves paying him the £3k a week above our £10k limit.
He has a contract guaranteeing him £13k a week until the end of the season.
Why would he play for us on £10k a week, if can do exactly the same thing for £13k aweek?
Maybe the club want to pay less than 10k a week?
Okay, BFD, so we pay him £8k a week, and Wolves pick up the other £5k.
It still costs them a lot less than paying the full £13k a week to a player who does not figure in their plans.
Not only that but where do you find a Championship Quality player for £100,000 if that price is correct.
We should not pay the £100k, just on principle. Wolves want to get him off their books. There has been no other interest. Wolves are paying his wages all the time he's still there. Call their bluff. Offer a 2 year contract at £10k a week. But no fee. Everyone's happy. Ward gets an extra year at slightly reduced wages. Wolves get him off their books. Albion get their man! No fee though.......
[quote][p][bold]rolivan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bucket feet Duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Piglet1[/bold] wrote: All the time he stays at Wolves they pay his wages so if he is fit then we can get him at the end of the month and save £50k. Why would you not do that? Of course there have been discussions between the club and the player/agent it would be ridiculous to think this was not the case. At the end of the day Wardy may have to accept he is a championship player and accept those wages rather than the premiership player he was when he was granted his current deal. I think it will get done.[/p][/quote]If I was Stephen Ward, I would be trying to arrange a repeat of last season's loan deal, with wolves paying him the £3k a week above our £10k limit. He has a contract guaranteeing him £13k a week until the end of the season. Why would he play for us on £10k a week, if can do exactly the same thing for £13k aweek?[/p][/quote]Maybe the club want to pay less than 10k a week?[/p][/quote]Okay, BFD, so we pay him £8k a week, and Wolves pick up the other £5k. It still costs them a lot less than paying the full £13k a week to a player who does not figure in their plans.[/p][/quote]Not only that but where do you find a Championship Quality player for £100,000 if that price is correct.[/p][/quote]We should not pay the £100k, just on principle. Wolves want to get him off their books. There has been no other interest. Wolves are paying his wages all the time he's still there. Call their bluff. Offer a 2 year contract at £10k a week. But no fee. Everyone's happy. Ward gets an extra year at slightly reduced wages. Wolves get him off their books. Albion get their man! No fee though....... Quiterie
  • Score: 2

11:10am Sat 12 Jul 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

As I said about 4 weeks ago TB is playing hardball. Wolves are desperate to get Ward off their books and the longer it goes on the better for us.
I still think we will get him on a 'free' and the wages will be within our budget.
The days of stupid pay will slowly but surely end over the next few years.
Bit risky but that's how I see it. UTA
As I said about 4 weeks ago TB is playing hardball. Wolves are desperate to get Ward off their books and the longer it goes on the better for us. I still think we will get him on a 'free' and the wages will be within our budget. The days of stupid pay will slowly but surely end over the next few years. Bit risky but that's how I see it. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 3

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