Ulloa ruled out by ankle injury

Leo Ulloa

Leo Ulloa

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Albion striker Leo Ulloa has a minor ankle injury.

The problem ruled him out of today’s 4-0 friendly win over Partick Thistle.

Kazenga LuaLua also sat out the run out at the Pinatar Arena in Spain.

LuaLua has a calf injury, also reported to be minor in nature.

Boss Sami Hyypia is loathe to risk any of his players in pre-season.

Ulloa and LuaLua watched the game, in which Craig Mackail-Smith, Gordon Greer, Shamir Fenelon and Charlie Harris netted.

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9:25pm Sat 12 Jul 14

Sid East Brighton says...

Is a minor ankle injury the code for " better not risk playing him as we have just received a 7.5 million offer"
Is a minor ankle injury the code for " better not risk playing him as we have just received a 7.5 million offer" Sid East Brighton
  • Score: 4

9:38pm Sat 12 Jul 14

Conelli98 says...

Sid East Brighton wrote:
Is a minor ankle injury the code for " better not risk playing him as we have just received a 7.5 million offer"
But we haven't been offerered 7.5m! It was 6.1 and it was their final offer! Personally I wouldn't pay 6million for Ulloa when you can get Wickham cheaper.
[quote][p][bold]Sid East Brighton[/bold] wrote: Is a minor ankle injury the code for " better not risk playing him as we have just received a 7.5 million offer"[/p][/quote]But we haven't been offerered 7.5m! It was 6.1 and it was their final offer! Personally I wouldn't pay 6million for Ulloa when you can get Wickham cheaper. Conelli98
  • Score: 1

10:31pm Sat 12 Jul 14

Blackheath, Brighton Fan says...

Conelli98 wrote:
Sid East Brighton wrote:
Is a minor ankle injury the code for " better not risk playing him as we have just received a 7.5 million offer"
But we haven't been offerered 7.5m! It was 6.1 and it was their final offer! Personally I wouldn't pay 6million for Ulloa when you can get Wickham cheaper.
Actually the 6 million pound bid was rejected by the club the same day and it was stated that it wasn't necessarily Leicester last bid. As it seems the club are holding out for a larger sum.
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sid East Brighton[/bold] wrote: Is a minor ankle injury the code for " better not risk playing him as we have just received a 7.5 million offer"[/p][/quote]But we haven't been offerered 7.5m! It was 6.1 and it was their final offer! Personally I wouldn't pay 6million for Ulloa when you can get Wickham cheaper.[/p][/quote]Actually the 6 million pound bid was rejected by the club the same day and it was stated that it wasn't necessarily Leicester last bid. As it seems the club are holding out for a larger sum. Blackheath, Brighton Fan
  • Score: 7

10:36pm Sat 12 Jul 14

mark by the sea says...

Conelli98 wrote:
Sid East Brighton wrote:
Is a minor ankle injury the code for " better not risk playing him as we have just received a 7.5 million offer"
But we haven't been offerered 7.5m! It was 6.1 and it was their final offer! Personally I wouldn't pay 6million for Ulloa when you can get Wickham cheaper.
I believe the clubs are close to a deal , they want ulloa to hand in a transfer request then they will let him go, or 700k worse off, they are playing hard ball with the player and more importantly the agent.. Who would get a nice share of his money.. TB is holding the aces.
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sid East Brighton[/bold] wrote: Is a minor ankle injury the code for " better not risk playing him as we have just received a 7.5 million offer"[/p][/quote]But we haven't been offerered 7.5m! It was 6.1 and it was their final offer! Personally I wouldn't pay 6million for Ulloa when you can get Wickham cheaper.[/p][/quote]I believe the clubs are close to a deal , they want ulloa to hand in a transfer request then they will let him go, or 700k worse off, they are playing hard ball with the player and more importantly the agent.. Who would get a nice share of his money.. TB is holding the aces. mark by the sea
  • Score: -5

10:42pm Sat 12 Jul 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

Standing hands on hips again, staring into space with no interest in the game, all the hallmarks of a player with his mind on the premier league. Sell and go and buy Connor Wickham asap.
Standing hands on hips again, staring into space with no interest in the game, all the hallmarks of a player with his mind on the premier league. Sell and go and buy Connor Wickham asap. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -10

10:43pm Sat 12 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

Sid East Brighton wrote:
Is a minor ankle injury the code for " better not risk playing him as we have just received a 7.5 million offer"
sounds like BS to me, but you never know.
[quote][p][bold]Sid East Brighton[/bold] wrote: Is a minor ankle injury the code for " better not risk playing him as we have just received a 7.5 million offer"[/p][/quote]sounds like BS to me, but you never know. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

10:45pm Sat 12 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Sid East Brighton wrote:
Is a minor ankle injury the code for " better not risk playing him as we have just received a 7.5 million offer"
But we haven't been offerered 7.5m! It was 6.1 and it was their final offer! Personally I wouldn't pay 6million for Ulloa when you can get Wickham cheaper.
I believe the clubs are close to a deal , they want ulloa to hand in a transfer request then they will let him go, or 700k worse off, they are playing hard ball with the player and more importantly the agent.. Who would get a nice share of his money.. TB is holding the aces.
I remain firm in my opinion that 8M, what ever way we get to it, is the minimum the club will accept, that's 8M not counting add-ons.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sid East Brighton[/bold] wrote: Is a minor ankle injury the code for " better not risk playing him as we have just received a 7.5 million offer"[/p][/quote]But we haven't been offerered 7.5m! It was 6.1 and it was their final offer! Personally I wouldn't pay 6million for Ulloa when you can get Wickham cheaper.[/p][/quote]I believe the clubs are close to a deal , they want ulloa to hand in a transfer request then they will let him go, or 700k worse off, they are playing hard ball with the player and more importantly the agent.. Who would get a nice share of his money.. TB is holding the aces.[/p][/quote]I remain firm in my opinion that 8M, what ever way we get to it, is the minimum the club will accept, that's 8M not counting add-ons. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 6

10:49pm Sat 12 Jul 14

Sid East Brighton says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Sid East Brighton wrote:
Is a minor ankle injury the code for " better not risk playing him as we have just received a 7.5 million offer"
sounds like BS to me, but you never know.
I'm not the only one saying he is on his way. MBTS also believes he will be out of the door soon along with many others.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sid East Brighton[/bold] wrote: Is a minor ankle injury the code for " better not risk playing him as we have just received a 7.5 million offer"[/p][/quote]sounds like BS to me, but you never know.[/p][/quote]I'm not the only one saying he is on his way. MBTS also believes he will be out of the door soon along with many others. Sid East Brighton
  • Score: 1

10:50pm Sat 12 Jul 14

Cockwomble says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Sid East Brighton wrote:
Is a minor ankle injury the code for " better not risk playing him as we have just received a 7.5 million offer"
But we haven't been offerered 7.5m! It was 6.1 and it was their final offer! Personally I wouldn't pay 6million for Ulloa when you can get Wickham cheaper.
I believe the clubs are close to a deal , they want ulloa to hand in a transfer request then they will let him go, or 700k worse off, they are playing hard ball with the player and more importantly the agent.. Who would get a nice share of his money.. TB is holding the aces.
you claim to believe a lot that turns out to be made up.cockwomble
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sid East Brighton[/bold] wrote: Is a minor ankle injury the code for " better not risk playing him as we have just received a 7.5 million offer"[/p][/quote]But we haven't been offerered 7.5m! It was 6.1 and it was their final offer! Personally I wouldn't pay 6million for Ulloa when you can get Wickham cheaper.[/p][/quote]I believe the clubs are close to a deal , they want ulloa to hand in a transfer request then they will let him go, or 700k worse off, they are playing hard ball with the player and more importantly the agent.. Who would get a nice share of his money.. TB is holding the aces.[/p][/quote]you claim to believe a lot that turns out to be made up.cockwomble Cockwomble
  • Score: 8

10:52pm Sat 12 Jul 14

Cockwomble says...

Sid East Brighton wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Sid East Brighton wrote:
Is a minor ankle injury the code for " better not risk playing him as we have just received a 7.5 million offer"
sounds like BS to me, but you never know.
I'm not the only one saying he is on his way. MBTS also believes he will be out of the door soon along with many others.
and the fact mbts is saying it only adds weight to the idea that its bull.cockwomble
[quote][p][bold]Sid East Brighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sid East Brighton[/bold] wrote: Is a minor ankle injury the code for " better not risk playing him as we have just received a 7.5 million offer"[/p][/quote]sounds like BS to me, but you never know.[/p][/quote]I'm not the only one saying he is on his way. MBTS also believes he will be out of the door soon along with many others.[/p][/quote]and the fact mbts is saying it only adds weight to the idea that its bull.cockwomble Cockwomble
  • Score: 6

11:17pm Sat 12 Jul 14

Seagull John says...

There is no 'e' in loath!
There is no 'e' in loath! Seagull John
  • Score: -3

11:21pm Sat 12 Jul 14

Cockwomble says...

Seagull John wrote:
There is no 'e' in loath!
subeditor should've picked up that one.if they have them.
[quote][p][bold]Seagull John[/bold] wrote: There is no 'e' in loath![/p][/quote]subeditor should've picked up that one.if they have them. Cockwomble
  • Score: -2

11:26pm Sat 12 Jul 14

tug509 says...

It does seem a little strange to make a seperate thread on Leo`s ankle injury, when if it had no added significance it would get no more of a mention than Kaz`s calf ,maybe it was done to stop us worrying about any possible departure ,but it seems very ominous to me . UTA

Well done lads .
It does seem a little strange to make a seperate thread on Leo`s ankle injury, when if it had no added significance it would get no more of a mention than Kaz`s calf ,maybe it was done to stop us worrying about any possible departure ,but it seems very ominous to me . UTA Well done lads . tug509
  • Score: 3

11:58pm Sat 12 Jul 14

Max Ripple says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Standing hands on hips again, staring into space with no interest in the game, all the hallmarks of a player with his mind on the premier league. Sell and go and buy Connor Wickham asap.
Old photo. Get a grip Mayfield.
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Standing hands on hips again, staring into space with no interest in the game, all the hallmarks of a player with his mind on the premier league. Sell and go and buy Connor Wickham asap.[/p][/quote]Old photo. Get a grip Mayfield. Max Ripple
  • Score: 6

12:36am Sun 13 Jul 14

daughter-of-manag says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Standing hands on hips again, staring into space with no interest in the game, all the hallmarks of a player with his mind on the premier league. Sell and go and buy Connor Wickham asap.
But he's looking out at the Pier Mayfield, and he's also kinda happy that he can visit the Dolphinarium and Primart - all within a short walk from each other. Keep us all updated in terms of your in depth insight - it is helping me to understand both human body language and psychological nuances of staring into space.
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Standing hands on hips again, staring into space with no interest in the game, all the hallmarks of a player with his mind on the premier league. Sell and go and buy Connor Wickham asap.[/p][/quote]But he's looking out at the Pier Mayfield, and he's also kinda happy that he can visit the Dolphinarium and Primart - all within a short walk from each other. Keep us all updated in terms of your in depth insight - it is helping me to understand both human body language and psychological nuances of staring into space. daughter-of-manag
  • Score: 9

12:43am Sun 13 Jul 14

rolivan says...

Hope this doesn't drag on like Bridcutts "injury"
Hope this doesn't drag on like Bridcutts "injury" rolivan
  • Score: 8

12:53am Sun 13 Jul 14

sussexram40 says...

Sid East Brighton wrote:
Is a minor ankle injury the code for " better not risk playing him as we have just received a 7.5 million offer"
Exactly.
The club knows he won't be playing for Albion next season so aren't going to risk an injury messing up his transfer!
[quote][p][bold]Sid East Brighton[/bold] wrote: Is a minor ankle injury the code for " better not risk playing him as we have just received a 7.5 million offer"[/p][/quote]Exactly. The club knows he won't be playing for Albion next season so aren't going to risk an injury messing up his transfer! sussexram40
  • Score: -3

12:54am Sun 13 Jul 14

sussexram40 says...

And I hope the GP haters give him thanks for the big profit that the club will make on Ulloa!
And I hope the GP haters give him thanks for the big profit that the club will make on Ulloa! sussexram40
  • Score: 2

1:49am Sun 13 Jul 14

albionbloke says...

Cockwomble wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Sid East Brighton wrote:
Is a minor ankle injury the code for " better not risk playing him as we have just received a 7.5 million offer"
But we haven't been offerered 7.5m! It was 6.1 and it was their final offer! Personally I wouldn't pay 6million for Ulloa when you can get Wickham cheaper.
I believe the clubs are close to a deal , they want ulloa to hand in a transfer request then they will let him go, or 700k worse off, they are playing hard ball with the player and more importantly the agent.. Who would get a nice share of his money.. TB is holding the aces.
you claim to believe a lot that turns out to be made up.cockwomble
Agreed!!!
[quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sid East Brighton[/bold] wrote: Is a minor ankle injury the code for " better not risk playing him as we have just received a 7.5 million offer"[/p][/quote]But we haven't been offerered 7.5m! It was 6.1 and it was their final offer! Personally I wouldn't pay 6million for Ulloa when you can get Wickham cheaper.[/p][/quote]I believe the clubs are close to a deal , they want ulloa to hand in a transfer request then they will let him go, or 700k worse off, they are playing hard ball with the player and more importantly the agent.. Who would get a nice share of his money.. TB is holding the aces.[/p][/quote]you claim to believe a lot that turns out to be made up.cockwomble[/p][/quote]Agreed!!! albionbloke
  • Score: 9

2:16am Sun 13 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

So much BS posted today, many names but down to just a couple of people.
So much BS posted today, many names but down to just a couple of people. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -4

5:04am Sun 13 Jul 14

mark by the sea says...

albionbloke wrote:
Cockwomble wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Sid East Brighton wrote:
Is a minor ankle injury the code for " better not risk playing him as we have just received a 7.5 million offer"
But we haven't been offerered 7.5m! It was 6.1 and it was their final offer! Personally I wouldn't pay 6million for Ulloa when you can get Wickham cheaper.
I believe the clubs are close to a deal , they want ulloa to hand in a transfer request then they will let him go, or 700k worse off, they are playing hard ball with the player and more importantly the agent.. Who would get a nice share of his money.. TB is holding the aces.
you claim to believe a lot that turns out to be made up.cockwomble
Agreed!!!
The club apparently told bridcutt if he wants to leave hand in a transfer request, why should a player refuse to play and then take 400k ?
The club are correct to do this, obviously this leaves the agent without a sizeable part of his commission !
As for bs , I think I named Leicester as the club watching him and a figure of 7.5 million that was in January...
Club have stepped up a notch in my opinion, why should players move to another club for more money take 10% of a transfer they want!
[quote][p][bold]albionbloke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sid East Brighton[/bold] wrote: Is a minor ankle injury the code for " better not risk playing him as we have just received a 7.5 million offer"[/p][/quote]But we haven't been offerered 7.5m! It was 6.1 and it was their final offer! Personally I wouldn't pay 6million for Ulloa when you can get Wickham cheaper.[/p][/quote]I believe the clubs are close to a deal , they want ulloa to hand in a transfer request then they will let him go, or 700k worse off, they are playing hard ball with the player and more importantly the agent.. Who would get a nice share of his money.. TB is holding the aces.[/p][/quote]you claim to believe a lot that turns out to be made up.cockwomble[/p][/quote]Agreed!!![/p][/quote]The club apparently told bridcutt if he wants to leave hand in a transfer request, why should a player refuse to play and then take 400k ? The club are correct to do this, obviously this leaves the agent without a sizeable part of his commission ! As for bs , I think I named Leicester as the club watching him and a figure of 7.5 million that was in January... Club have stepped up a notch in my opinion, why should players move to another club for more money take 10% of a transfer they want! mark by the sea
  • Score: 0

5:06am Sun 13 Jul 14

mark by the sea says...

Is ulloa the model for Papa johns pizza?
Is ulloa the model for Papa johns pizza? mark by the sea
  • Score: -3

6:46am Sun 13 Jul 14

Rhodes Seagull says...

Well I have been on Ebay and searched for both Leo and Ulloa but I cannot for the life of me find any items under those names for sale!!
There was one Suarez but the bidding had ended!!!!
Well I have been on Ebay and searched for both Leo and Ulloa but I cannot for the life of me find any items under those names for sale!! There was one Suarez but the bidding had ended!!!! Rhodes Seagull
  • Score: 9

7:26am Sun 13 Jul 14

brianw52 says...

Must be the same sort of injury that Bridcutt had before he was sold!
Must be the same sort of injury that Bridcutt had before he was sold! brianw52
  • Score: 1

7:43am Sun 13 Jul 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
So much BS posted today, many names but down to just a couple of people.
Most of it by you.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: So much BS posted today, many names but down to just a couple of people.[/p][/quote]Most of it by you. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -1

7:51am Sun 13 Jul 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Well it's easy to see why the conspiracy theorists are having a field day but no-one on here knows what's really going on and those who pretend they do are getting a tad tiresome.
Of course it's possible he's being moth-balled prior to sale, but it is also possible he's being being protected for our purposes too.
Sit back, enjoy the ride and have a nice Sunday .
Well it's easy to see why the conspiracy theorists are having a field day but no-one on here knows what's really going on and those who pretend they do are getting a tad tiresome. Of course it's possible he's being moth-balled prior to sale, but it is also possible he's being being protected for our purposes too. Sit back, enjoy the ride and have a nice Sunday . Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 13

7:55am Sun 13 Jul 14

farside says...

Seagull John wrote:
There is no 'e' in loath!
Correct as it is the adjective meaning 'unwilling or reluctant" (as opposed to the verb meaning "dislike or hate) and as such your comment is both more interesting and more accurate than MBTS' pretence that he has any actual knowledge about anything.
[quote][p][bold]Seagull John[/bold] wrote: There is no 'e' in loath![/p][/quote]Correct as it is the adjective meaning 'unwilling or reluctant" (as opposed to the verb meaning "dislike or hate) and as such your comment is both more interesting and more accurate than MBTS' pretence that he has any actual knowledge about anything. farside
  • Score: 6

7:56am Sun 13 Jul 14

Quiterie says...

Seagull John wrote:
There is no 'e' in loath!
Good call. "loathe" means to hate, "loath" means unwilling.
[quote][p][bold]Seagull John[/bold] wrote: There is no 'e' in loath![/p][/quote]Good call. "loathe" means to hate, "loath" means unwilling. Quiterie
  • Score: 7

7:59am Sun 13 Jul 14

Guernsey gull says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
So much BS posted today, many names but down to just a couple of people.
Most of it by you.
Are you really a seagull fan Mayfield sweeper, nothing you put on this site, would suggest you are, so why not stop wasting space, and get on with your road sweeping , or village idiot duties in Mayfield !
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: So much BS posted today, many names but down to just a couple of people.[/p][/quote]Most of it by you.[/p][/quote]Are you really a seagull fan Mayfield sweeper, nothing you put on this site, would suggest you are, so why not stop wasting space, and get on with your road sweeping , or village idiot duties in Mayfield ! Guernsey gull
  • Score: -1

9:08am Sun 13 Jul 14

JeffLomer says...

Morning, Are Leicester turning there attentions else where after having four bids turned down, Charlie Austin I'm hearing there interested in,
up the Albion!!
Morning, Are Leicester turning there attentions else where after having four bids turned down, Charlie Austin I'm hearing there interested in, up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 0

9:42am Sun 13 Jul 14

Claude Back says...

farside wrote:
Seagull John wrote:
There is no 'e' in loath!
Correct as it is the adjective meaning 'unwilling or reluctant" (as opposed to the verb meaning "dislike or hate) and as such your comment is both more interesting and more accurate than MBTS' pretence that he has any actual knowledge about anything.
I don't understand you and AIS' constant criticism of MBTS.
He has over the years given us a lot of good information about the Club and so have others. The only reason I look at this site is to hopefully have a laugh, gain info on Albion and I always welcome the odd titbits of news before the Argus has an article....not to read pompous, egotistic opinions stating the blindingly obvious which constitute most of the posts. Some of us do have friends that work for the Albion and we do get leaks. If people constantly criticise those that do provide info not in the Public Domain you will learn nothing...especially those that don't live in Sussex.
[quote][p][bold]farside[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seagull John[/bold] wrote: There is no 'e' in loath![/p][/quote]Correct as it is the adjective meaning 'unwilling or reluctant" (as opposed to the verb meaning "dislike or hate) and as such your comment is both more interesting and more accurate than MBTS' pretence that he has any actual knowledge about anything.[/p][/quote]I don't understand you and AIS' constant criticism of MBTS. He has over the years given us a lot of good information about the Club and so have others. The only reason I look at this site is to hopefully have a laugh, gain info on Albion and I always welcome the odd titbits of news before the Argus has an article....not to read pompous, egotistic opinions stating the blindingly obvious which constitute most of the posts. Some of us do have friends that work for the Albion and we do get leaks. If people constantly criticise those that do provide info not in the Public Domain you will learn nothing...especially those that don't live in Sussex. Claude Back
  • Score: 0

9:48am Sun 13 Jul 14

AlanDuffy says...

IF.....and I stress if, as, like everyone else on here, I don't know what is happening..but if Leo wants to go, as seems likely, then I'm with those that question whether he should be rewarded with a huge payout, so ,as with Bridcutt, he should ask for a transfer and we will consider offers. That is the correct way to do business. I'm glad the club is playing hardball with players and managers who want to leave and not allowing greedy agents to dictate affairs. I think Leo will go, I just hope we have adequate replacements lined up, I don't want another season of Obikas, Litas, Rodriguez' or Barn Door Billys!!!
IF.....and I stress if, as, like everyone else on here, I don't know what is happening..but if Leo wants to go, as seems likely, then I'm with those that question whether he should be rewarded with a huge payout, so ,as with Bridcutt, he should ask for a transfer and we will consider offers. That is the correct way to do business. I'm glad the club is playing hardball with players and managers who want to leave and not allowing greedy agents to dictate affairs. I think Leo will go, I just hope we have adequate replacements lined up, I don't want another season of Obikas, Litas, Rodriguez' or Barn Door Billys!!! AlanDuffy
  • Score: 18

9:49am Sun 13 Jul 14

mikeygit says...

Strange the Leo affair--but all will become clear soon, one way or another. None of us know what is happening and all we have on here is some banter, some speculation and some unnecessary comments.
All I find strange is that there are no current ´Leo ´comments on any of the Leicester sites or Rumour sites.
Strange the Leo affair--but all will become clear soon, one way or another. None of us know what is happening and all we have on here is some banter, some speculation and some unnecessary comments. All I find strange is that there are no current ´Leo ´comments on any of the Leicester sites or Rumour sites. mikeygit
  • Score: 6

10:33am Sun 13 Jul 14

Sheil says...

Oh dear don't like what I've just seen on I.Player. Sami was asked why Leo & Kaz didn't play yesterday.....he looked away & just said they were not available!!! Not looking good I feel.
No mention of injuries......good on Sami no lies either!
Oh dear don't like what I've just seen on I.Player. Sami was asked why Leo & Kaz didn't play yesterday.....he looked away & just said they were not available!!! Not looking good I feel. No mention of injuries......good on Sami no lies either! Sheil
  • Score: 3

11:01am Sun 13 Jul 14

tug509 says...

Claude Back wrote:
farside wrote:
Seagull John wrote:
There is no 'e' in loath!
Correct as it is the adjective meaning 'unwilling or reluctant" (as opposed to the verb meaning "dislike or hate) and as such your comment is both more interesting and more accurate than MBTS' pretence that he has any actual knowledge about anything.
I don't understand you and AIS' constant criticism of MBTS.
He has over the years given us a lot of good information about the Club and so have others. The only reason I look at this site is to hopefully have a laugh, gain info on Albion and I always welcome the odd titbits of news before the Argus has an article....not to read pompous, egotistic opinions stating the blindingly obvious which constitute most of the posts. Some of us do have friends that work for the Albion and we do get leaks. If people constantly criticise those that do provide info not in the Public Domain you will learn nothing...especially those that don't live in Sussex.
Totally agree ,with a few exceptions ,if you don't all say the same positive things you get ridiculed or put down . As I have said before ,I learn a lot on this site ,it`s great when you can have a laugh on this site ,but there are a few who think they have all the answers ,and heaven help anyone with a differing view ,very sad considering we are all Blue & White .
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]farside[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seagull John[/bold] wrote: There is no 'e' in loath![/p][/quote]Correct as it is the adjective meaning 'unwilling or reluctant" (as opposed to the verb meaning "dislike or hate) and as such your comment is both more interesting and more accurate than MBTS' pretence that he has any actual knowledge about anything.[/p][/quote]I don't understand you and AIS' constant criticism of MBTS. He has over the years given us a lot of good information about the Club and so have others. The only reason I look at this site is to hopefully have a laugh, gain info on Albion and I always welcome the odd titbits of news before the Argus has an article....not to read pompous, egotistic opinions stating the blindingly obvious which constitute most of the posts. Some of us do have friends that work for the Albion and we do get leaks. If people constantly criticise those that do provide info not in the Public Domain you will learn nothing...especially those that don't live in Sussex.[/p][/quote]Totally agree ,with a few exceptions ,if you don't all say the same positive things you get ridiculed or put down . As I have said before ,I learn a lot on this site ,it`s great when you can have a laugh on this site ,but there are a few who think they have all the answers ,and heaven help anyone with a differing view ,very sad considering we are all Blue & White . tug509
  • Score: 5

11:07am Sun 13 Jul 14

AlanDuffy says...

Personally, I don't want to see Leo go, but if his heart is set on a move, then I think it's inevitable. The positive aspect of such a move would be that we have a significant sum available for getting in the 5-6 players that we need, on a permanent basis, rather than loans. Maybe this is why we've been biding our time on getting players in. I expect some big news in the near future.
Personally, I don't want to see Leo go, but if his heart is set on a move, then I think it's inevitable. The positive aspect of such a move would be that we have a significant sum available for getting in the 5-6 players that we need, on a permanent basis, rather than loans. Maybe this is why we've been biding our time on getting players in. I expect some big news in the near future. AlanDuffy
  • Score: 4

11:30am Sun 13 Jul 14

mark by the sea says...

AlanDuffy wrote:
Personally, I don't want to see Leo go, but if his heart is set on a move, then I think it's inevitable. The positive aspect of such a move would be that we have a significant sum available for getting in the 5-6 players that we need, on a permanent basis, rather than loans. Maybe this is why we've been biding our time on getting players in. I expect some big news in the near future.
Where is the 5 million collected from selling Bridcutt Barnes etc?
Sami has two weeks to go, and we are desperately short in very position,
Keeper is a massive worry ,
Wolves may send ward out again on loan .
[quote][p][bold]AlanDuffy[/bold] wrote: Personally, I don't want to see Leo go, but if his heart is set on a move, then I think it's inevitable. The positive aspect of such a move would be that we have a significant sum available for getting in the 5-6 players that we need, on a permanent basis, rather than loans. Maybe this is why we've been biding our time on getting players in. I expect some big news in the near future.[/p][/quote]Where is the 5 million collected from selling Bridcutt Barnes etc? Sami has two weeks to go, and we are desperately short in very position, Keeper is a massive worry , Wolves may send ward out again on loan . mark by the sea
  • Score: 0

11:32am Sun 13 Jul 14

mikeygit says...

Samis comments---True if they WERE injured, they were not available, maybe too busy to engage in any further conversation with someone he may not know!!??
Samis comments---True if they WERE injured, they were not available, maybe too busy to engage in any further conversation with someone he may not know!!?? mikeygit
  • Score: 5

11:40am Sun 13 Jul 14

JeffLomer says...

tug509 wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
farside wrote:
Seagull John wrote:
There is no 'e' in loath!
Correct as it is the adjective meaning 'unwilling or reluctant" (as opposed to the verb meaning "dislike or hate) and as such your comment is both more interesting and more accurate than MBTS' pretence that he has any actual knowledge about anything.
I don't understand you and AIS' constant criticism of MBTS.
He has over the years given us a lot of good information about the Club and so have others. The only reason I look at this site is to hopefully have a laugh, gain info on Albion and I always welcome the odd titbits of news before the Argus has an article....not to read pompous, egotistic opinions stating the blindingly obvious which constitute most of the posts. Some of us do have friends that work for the Albion and we do get leaks. If people constantly criticise those that do provide info not in the Public Domain you will learn nothing...especially those that don't live in Sussex.
Totally agree ,with a few exceptions ,if you don't all say the same positive things you get ridiculed or put down . As I have said before ,I learn a lot on this site ,it`s great when you can have a laugh on this site ,but there are a few who think they have all the answers ,and heaven help anyone with a differing view ,very sad considering we are all Blue & White .
Morning, The forum is about fans having there own opinions and discussing any rumours they have heard about, we've had many a debate about a lot off topics on here, we've not always agreed on a few subjects but that makes this site what it is a forum, if you or I don't agree doesn't make us right or wrong we just have different views on certain subjects being discussed, how boring would it be if everyone agreed all the time.

What I don't like is when people use more than one screen name to talk rubbish you usually find them that they will never say anything positive ever but will agree with there so called mates who do the same as them using more than one screen name, they won't stop because there sad.
Up the Albion!!
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]farside[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seagull John[/bold] wrote: There is no 'e' in loath![/p][/quote]Correct as it is the adjective meaning 'unwilling or reluctant" (as opposed to the verb meaning "dislike or hate) and as such your comment is both more interesting and more accurate than MBTS' pretence that he has any actual knowledge about anything.[/p][/quote]I don't understand you and AIS' constant criticism of MBTS. He has over the years given us a lot of good information about the Club and so have others. The only reason I look at this site is to hopefully have a laugh, gain info on Albion and I always welcome the odd titbits of news before the Argus has an article....not to read pompous, egotistic opinions stating the blindingly obvious which constitute most of the posts. Some of us do have friends that work for the Albion and we do get leaks. If people constantly criticise those that do provide info not in the Public Domain you will learn nothing...especially those that don't live in Sussex.[/p][/quote]Totally agree ,with a few exceptions ,if you don't all say the same positive things you get ridiculed or put down . As I have said before ,I learn a lot on this site ,it`s great when you can have a laugh on this site ,but there are a few who think they have all the answers ,and heaven help anyone with a differing view ,very sad considering we are all Blue & White .[/p][/quote]Morning, The forum is about fans having there own opinions and discussing any rumours they have heard about, we've had many a debate about a lot off topics on here, we've not always agreed on a few subjects but that makes this site what it is a forum, if you or I don't agree doesn't make us right or wrong we just have different views on certain subjects being discussed, how boring would it be if everyone agreed all the time. What I don't like is when people use more than one screen name to talk rubbish you usually find them that they will never say anything positive ever but will agree with there so called mates who do the same as them using more than one screen name, they won't stop because there sad. Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 5

11:51am Sun 13 Jul 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

tug509 wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
farside wrote:
Seagull John wrote:
There is no 'e' in loath!
Correct as it is the adjective meaning 'unwilling or reluctant" (as opposed to the verb meaning "dislike or hate) and as such your comment is both more interesting and more accurate than MBTS' pretence that he has any actual knowledge about anything.
I don't understand you and AIS' constant criticism of MBTS.
He has over the years given us a lot of good information about the Club and so have others. The only reason I look at this site is to hopefully have a laugh, gain info on Albion and I always welcome the odd titbits of news before the Argus has an article....not to read pompous, egotistic opinions stating the blindingly obvious which constitute most of the posts. Some of us do have friends that work for the Albion and we do get leaks. If people constantly criticise those that do provide info not in the Public Domain you will learn nothing...especially those that don't live in Sussex.
Totally agree ,with a few exceptions ,if you don't all say the same positive things you get ridiculed or put down . As I have said before ,I learn a lot on this site ,it`s great when you can have a laugh on this site ,but there are a few who think they have all the answers ,and heaven help anyone with a differing view ,very sad considering we are all Blue & White .
Also agree,learn-info-tip
s and some banter.

I have quite a few times some think they own the site,and heaven forbid if go against them.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]farside[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seagull John[/bold] wrote: There is no 'e' in loath![/p][/quote]Correct as it is the adjective meaning 'unwilling or reluctant" (as opposed to the verb meaning "dislike or hate) and as such your comment is both more interesting and more accurate than MBTS' pretence that he has any actual knowledge about anything.[/p][/quote]I don't understand you and AIS' constant criticism of MBTS. He has over the years given us a lot of good information about the Club and so have others. The only reason I look at this site is to hopefully have a laugh, gain info on Albion and I always welcome the odd titbits of news before the Argus has an article....not to read pompous, egotistic opinions stating the blindingly obvious which constitute most of the posts. Some of us do have friends that work for the Albion and we do get leaks. If people constantly criticise those that do provide info not in the Public Domain you will learn nothing...especially those that don't live in Sussex.[/p][/quote]Totally agree ,with a few exceptions ,if you don't all say the same positive things you get ridiculed or put down . As I have said before ,I learn a lot on this site ,it`s great when you can have a laugh on this site ,but there are a few who think they have all the answers ,and heaven help anyone with a differing view ,very sad considering we are all Blue & White .[/p][/quote]Also agree,learn-info-tip s and some banter. I have quite a few times some think they own the site,and heaven forbid if go against them. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 2

12:13pm Sun 13 Jul 14

bbb1969 says...

lf Ulloa is injured then this is not good for us
1. He may have a weakness in his ankle an miss a few games.
2. Leicester will not offer more for an injured player
3. Ee are going to sell and injury story is prevention of him getting a true injury before we sell.

I will wait and see cos we have started well in our frindlies and scoring goals I might add.
lf Ulloa is injured then this is not good for us 1. He may have a weakness in his ankle an miss a few games. 2. Leicester will not offer more for an injured player 3. Ee are going to sell and injury story is prevention of him getting a true injury before we sell. I will wait and see cos we have started well in our frindlies and scoring goals I might add. bbb1969
  • Score: 8

12:24pm Sun 13 Jul 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

mikeygit wrote:
Samis comments---True if they WERE injured, they were not available, maybe too busy to engage in any further conversation with someone he may not know!!??
Indeed,listened twice he was short and to the point "both not able to play,thats it",the other was LuaLua.
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Samis comments---True if they WERE injured, they were not available, maybe too busy to engage in any further conversation with someone he may not know!!??[/p][/quote]Indeed,listened twice he was short and to the point "both not able to play,thats it",the other was LuaLua. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 3

12:29pm Sun 13 Jul 14

JeffLomer says...

Claude Back wrote:
farside wrote:
Seagull John wrote:
There is no 'e' in loath!
Correct as it is the adjective meaning 'unwilling or reluctant" (as opposed to the verb meaning "dislike or hate) and as such your comment is both more interesting and more accurate than MBTS' pretence that he has any actual knowledge about anything.
I don't understand you and AIS' constant criticism of MBTS.
He has over the years given us a lot of good information about the Club and so have others. The only reason I look at this site is to hopefully have a laugh, gain info on Albion and I always welcome the odd titbits of news before the Argus has an article....not to read pompous, egotistic opinions stating the blindingly obvious which constitute most of the posts. Some of us do have friends that work for the Albion and we do get leaks. If people constantly criticise those that do provide info not in the Public Domain you will learn nothing...especially those that don't live in Sussex.
Are you saying you have to live in Sussex to have a opinion on the Albion just asking a question,
Think your find most on here use this site because they do not live in Sussex any more but still follow the Albion!!
Just wondered what your last line meant especially those who don't live in Sussex!!
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]farside[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seagull John[/bold] wrote: There is no 'e' in loath![/p][/quote]Correct as it is the adjective meaning 'unwilling or reluctant" (as opposed to the verb meaning "dislike or hate) and as such your comment is both more interesting and more accurate than MBTS' pretence that he has any actual knowledge about anything.[/p][/quote]I don't understand you and AIS' constant criticism of MBTS. He has over the years given us a lot of good information about the Club and so have others. The only reason I look at this site is to hopefully have a laugh, gain info on Albion and I always welcome the odd titbits of news before the Argus has an article....not to read pompous, egotistic opinions stating the blindingly obvious which constitute most of the posts. Some of us do have friends that work for the Albion and we do get leaks. If people constantly criticise those that do provide info not in the Public Domain you will learn nothing...especially those that don't live in Sussex.[/p][/quote]Are you saying you have to live in Sussex to have a opinion on the Albion just asking a question, Think your find most on here use this site because they do not live in Sussex any more but still follow the Albion!! Just wondered what your last line meant especially those who don't live in Sussex!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 6

12:50pm Sun 13 Jul 14

Cockwomble says...

mark by the sea wrote:
AlanDuffy wrote:
Personally, I don't want to see Leo go, but if his heart is set on a move, then I think it's inevitable. The positive aspect of such a move would be that we have a significant sum available for getting in the 5-6 players that we need, on a permanent basis, rather than loans. Maybe this is why we've been biding our time on getting players in. I expect some big news in the near future.
Where is the 5 million collected from selling Bridcutt Barnes etc?
Sami has two weeks to go, and we are desperately short in very position,
Keeper is a massive worry ,
Wolves may send ward out again on loan .
keeper is a minor worry.angkergren is fine as stopgap.cockwomble
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlanDuffy[/bold] wrote: Personally, I don't want to see Leo go, but if his heart is set on a move, then I think it's inevitable. The positive aspect of such a move would be that we have a significant sum available for getting in the 5-6 players that we need, on a permanent basis, rather than loans. Maybe this is why we've been biding our time on getting players in. I expect some big news in the near future.[/p][/quote]Where is the 5 million collected from selling Bridcutt Barnes etc? Sami has two weeks to go, and we are desperately short in very position, Keeper is a massive worry , Wolves may send ward out again on loan .[/p][/quote]keeper is a minor worry.angkergren is fine as stopgap.cockwomble Cockwomble
  • Score: 6

12:50pm Sun 13 Jul 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

http://www.bbc.com/s
port/0/football/2370
3265

If Ulloa does want to leave he should read Robbie Savage tips,link above.
http://www.bbc.com/s port/0/football/2370 3265 If Ulloa does want to leave he should read Robbie Savage tips,link above. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 1

12:58pm Sun 13 Jul 14

mark by the sea says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
farside wrote:
Seagull John wrote:
There is no 'e' in loath!
Correct as it is the adjective meaning 'unwilling or reluctant" (as opposed to the verb meaning "dislike or hate) and as such your comment is both more interesting and more accurate than MBTS' pretence that he has any actual knowledge about anything.
I don't understand you and AIS' constant criticism of MBTS.
He has over the years given us a lot of good information about the Club and so have others. The only reason I look at this site is to hopefully have a laugh, gain info on Albion and I always welcome the odd titbits of news before the Argus has an article....not to read pompous, egotistic opinions stating the blindingly obvious which constitute most of the posts. Some of us do have friends that work for the Albion and we do get leaks. If people constantly criticise those that do provide info not in the Public Domain you will learn nothing...especially those that don't live in Sussex.
Are you saying you have to live in Sussex to have a opinion on the Albion just asking a question,
Think your find most on here use this site because they do not live in Sussex any more but still follow the Albion!!
Just wondered what your last line meant especially those who don't live in Sussex!!
But that's the point surely , if you don't live in sussex , your not likely to hear snippets of interest , and when we do share what we have heard we get critical comments by those who support the argus information as though it's real journalism! All stories come through Paul Camlin ( press officer)
But the other point is many people who buy season tickets are not happy with this pre season.. Something is not right in my mind ... Sami already seems to be trotting out humble statements .. Rather than we are building for the start, the players can't wait,
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]farside[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seagull John[/bold] wrote: There is no 'e' in loath![/p][/quote]Correct as it is the adjective meaning 'unwilling or reluctant" (as opposed to the verb meaning "dislike or hate) and as such your comment is both more interesting and more accurate than MBTS' pretence that he has any actual knowledge about anything.[/p][/quote]I don't understand you and AIS' constant criticism of MBTS. He has over the years given us a lot of good information about the Club and so have others. The only reason I look at this site is to hopefully have a laugh, gain info on Albion and I always welcome the odd titbits of news before the Argus has an article....not to read pompous, egotistic opinions stating the blindingly obvious which constitute most of the posts. Some of us do have friends that work for the Albion and we do get leaks. If people constantly criticise those that do provide info not in the Public Domain you will learn nothing...especially those that don't live in Sussex.[/p][/quote]Are you saying you have to live in Sussex to have a opinion on the Albion just asking a question, Think your find most on here use this site because they do not live in Sussex any more but still follow the Albion!! Just wondered what your last line meant especially those who don't live in Sussex!![/p][/quote]But that's the point surely , if you don't live in sussex , your not likely to hear snippets of interest , and when we do share what we have heard we get critical comments by those who support the argus information as though it's real journalism! All stories come through Paul Camlin ( press officer) But the other point is many people who buy season tickets are not happy with this pre season.. Something is not right in my mind ... Sami already seems to be trotting out humble statements .. Rather than we are building for the start, the players can't wait, mark by the sea
  • Score: -10

12:59pm Sun 13 Jul 14

mark by the sea says...

Cockwomble wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
AlanDuffy wrote:
Personally, I don't want to see Leo go, but if his heart is set on a move, then I think it's inevitable. The positive aspect of such a move would be that we have a significant sum available for getting in the 5-6 players that we need, on a permanent basis, rather than loans. Maybe this is why we've been biding our time on getting players in. I expect some big news in the near future.
Where is the 5 million collected from selling Bridcutt Barnes etc?
Sami has two weeks to go, and we are desperately short in very position,
Keeper is a massive worry ,
Wolves may send ward out again on loan .
keeper is a minor worry.angkergren is fine as stopgap.cockwomble
You clearly have not seen him play!
[quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlanDuffy[/bold] wrote: Personally, I don't want to see Leo go, but if his heart is set on a move, then I think it's inevitable. The positive aspect of such a move would be that we have a significant sum available for getting in the 5-6 players that we need, on a permanent basis, rather than loans. Maybe this is why we've been biding our time on getting players in. I expect some big news in the near future.[/p][/quote]Where is the 5 million collected from selling Bridcutt Barnes etc? Sami has two weeks to go, and we are desperately short in very position, Keeper is a massive worry , Wolves may send ward out again on loan .[/p][/quote]keeper is a minor worry.angkergren is fine as stopgap.cockwomble[/p][/quote]You clearly have not seen him play! mark by the sea
  • Score: -7

1:05pm Sun 13 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

The report from the club is that Leo has a, 'minor,' ankle knock and Kaz has a, 'minor,' muscle issue,' why is that so hard to believe. The trolls and wums would have us believe that report must mean that Ulloa is going, but they seem to accept that it doesn't mean the same for Kaz.

Chances are that both will be back in training within a day or so, perhaps that will end the latest conspiracy theories.
The report from the club is that Leo has a, 'minor,' ankle knock and Kaz has a, 'minor,' muscle issue,' why is that so hard to believe. The trolls and wums would have us believe that report must mean that Ulloa is going, but they seem to accept that it doesn't mean the same for Kaz. Chances are that both will be back in training within a day or so, perhaps that will end the latest conspiracy theories. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 7

1:20pm Sun 13 Jul 14

pte says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Sid East Brighton wrote:
Is a minor ankle injury the code for " better not risk playing him as we have just received a 7.5 million offer"
But we haven't been offerered 7.5m! It was 6.1 and it was their final offer! Personally I wouldn't pay 6million for Ulloa when you can get Wickham cheaper.
I believe the clubs are close to a deal , they want ulloa to hand in a transfer request then they will let him go, or 700k worse off, they are playing hard ball with the player and more importantly the agent.. Who would get a nice share of his money.. TB is holding the aces.
I remain firm in my opinion that 8M, what ever way we get to it, is the minimum the club will accept, that's 8M not counting add-ons.
and this is based on the conversation you had with TB the other day inside your head?
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sid East Brighton[/bold] wrote: Is a minor ankle injury the code for " better not risk playing him as we have just received a 7.5 million offer"[/p][/quote]But we haven't been offerered 7.5m! It was 6.1 and it was their final offer! Personally I wouldn't pay 6million for Ulloa when you can get Wickham cheaper.[/p][/quote]I believe the clubs are close to a deal , they want ulloa to hand in a transfer request then they will let him go, or 700k worse off, they are playing hard ball with the player and more importantly the agent.. Who would get a nice share of his money.. TB is holding the aces.[/p][/quote]I remain firm in my opinion that 8M, what ever way we get to it, is the minimum the club will accept, that's 8M not counting add-ons.[/p][/quote]and this is based on the conversation you had with TB the other day inside your head? pte
  • Score: -6

1:30pm Sun 13 Jul 14

ballantrrae says...

AlanDuffy wrote:
Personally, I don't want to see Leo go, but if his heart is set on a move, then I think it's inevitable. The positive aspect of such a move would be that we have a significant sum available for getting in the 5-6 players that we need, on a permanent basis, rather than loans. Maybe this is why we've been biding our time on getting players in. I expect some big news in the near future.
Good interesting thought AlanDuffy, you might be right about the club holding back on some of the recruitment process although I trust that the more urgent requirements such as a GK , a CB and another forward are being actively pursued.
If (and it's a big if) we sell Ulloa for say £7.5 mill then we should have up to a potential £11.5 mill plus to spend when you add on the £4 mill left from the sales of Barnes, Bridcutt and El Abd (less the £500,000 for Stephens) that Mark BTS mentions.
So the Albion benefit potentially in a number of ways by not rushing into the transfer market.
1) Hyppia gets a better more in depth knowledge of the players already with the club including some of the DS lads like Harris, Fenelon and Rea.
2) Some of the likely 'supporting' members of the squad get more game time now.
3) Depending on what happens to Ulloa (or for that matter any other Player whom other clubs might fancy eg Buckley) there might be a larger budget for signing players.
4) For every week we don't sign the 6/7 players Hyypia has said he wants the club saves say £35,000 a week (7 x £5K average) as another poster pointed out a few days back. The same could also be said of SH not recruiting an Assistant Manager yet (off topic how about Dean Saunders ?)
Of course waiting to play one's cards could backfire but so long as it is not overdone it can work to ones advantage. As an experienced gambler I am sure that TB is more aware of the risks than anyone and better able to follow such a strategy than most.
However having said that, with less than 4 weeks to go until the Wednesday match I would feel more relaxed if one saw one or two new faces coming to the Amex in the next few days.
UTA.
[quote][p][bold]AlanDuffy[/bold] wrote: Personally, I don't want to see Leo go, but if his heart is set on a move, then I think it's inevitable. The positive aspect of such a move would be that we have a significant sum available for getting in the 5-6 players that we need, on a permanent basis, rather than loans. Maybe this is why we've been biding our time on getting players in. I expect some big news in the near future.[/p][/quote]Good interesting thought AlanDuffy, you might be right about the club holding back on some of the recruitment process although I trust that the more urgent requirements such as a GK , a CB and another forward are being actively pursued. If (and it's a big if) we sell Ulloa for say £7.5 mill then we should have up to a potential £11.5 mill plus to spend when you add on the £4 mill left from the sales of Barnes, Bridcutt and El Abd (less the £500,000 for Stephens) that Mark BTS mentions. So the Albion benefit potentially in a number of ways by not rushing into the transfer market. 1) Hyppia gets a better more in depth knowledge of the players already with the club including some of the DS lads like Harris, Fenelon and Rea. 2) Some of the likely 'supporting' members of the squad get more game time now. 3) Depending on what happens to Ulloa (or for that matter any other Player whom other clubs might fancy eg Buckley) there might be a larger budget for signing players. 4) For every week we don't sign the 6/7 players Hyypia has said he wants the club saves say £35,000 a week (7 x £5K average) as another poster pointed out a few days back. The same could also be said of SH not recruiting an Assistant Manager yet (off topic how about Dean Saunders ?) Of course waiting to play one's cards could backfire but so long as it is not overdone it can work to ones advantage. As an experienced gambler I am sure that TB is more aware of the risks than anyone and better able to follow such a strategy than most. However having said that, with less than 4 weeks to go until the Wednesday match I would feel more relaxed if one saw one or two new faces coming to the Amex in the next few days. UTA. ballantrrae
  • Score: 6

1:31pm Sun 13 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

pte wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Sid East Brighton wrote:
Is a minor ankle injury the code for " better not risk playing him as we have just received a 7.5 million offer"
But we haven't been offerered 7.5m! It was 6.1 and it was their final offer! Personally I wouldn't pay 6million for Ulloa when you can get Wickham cheaper.
I believe the clubs are close to a deal , they want ulloa to hand in a transfer request then they will let him go, or 700k worse off, they are playing hard ball with the player and more importantly the agent.. Who would get a nice share of his money.. TB is holding the aces.
I remain firm in my opinion that 8M, what ever way we get to it, is the minimum the club will accept, that's 8M not counting add-ons.
and this is based on the conversation you had with TB the other day inside your head?
a rather silly reply as you can clearly read that I have stated what my, 'opinion,' is, and nothing more.
If you have a different, 'opinion,' as to what fee you think the club would accept then state it, we can then debate the merits of our opinions. If the best you have to offer is a silly little dig, then don't bother.
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sid East Brighton[/bold] wrote: Is a minor ankle injury the code for " better not risk playing him as we have just received a 7.5 million offer"[/p][/quote]But we haven't been offerered 7.5m! It was 6.1 and it was their final offer! Personally I wouldn't pay 6million for Ulloa when you can get Wickham cheaper.[/p][/quote]I believe the clubs are close to a deal , they want ulloa to hand in a transfer request then they will let him go, or 700k worse off, they are playing hard ball with the player and more importantly the agent.. Who would get a nice share of his money.. TB is holding the aces.[/p][/quote]I remain firm in my opinion that 8M, what ever way we get to it, is the minimum the club will accept, that's 8M not counting add-ons.[/p][/quote]and this is based on the conversation you had with TB the other day inside your head?[/p][/quote]a rather silly reply as you can clearly read that I have stated what my, 'opinion,' is, and nothing more. If you have a different, 'opinion,' as to what fee you think the club would accept then state it, we can then debate the merits of our opinions. If the best you have to offer is a silly little dig, then don't bother. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

1:35pm Sun 13 Jul 14

Cockwomble says...

mark by the sea wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
farside wrote:
Seagull John wrote:
There is no 'e' in loath!
Correct as it is the adjective meaning 'unwilling or reluctant" (as opposed to the verb meaning "dislike or hate) and as such your comment is both more interesting and more accurate than MBTS' pretence that he has any actual knowledge about anything.
I don't understand you and AIS' constant criticism of MBTS.
He has over the years given us a lot of good information about the Club and so have others. The only reason I look at this site is to hopefully have a laugh, gain info on Albion and I always welcome the odd titbits of news before the Argus has an article....not to read pompous, egotistic opinions stating the blindingly obvious which constitute most of the posts. Some of us do have friends that work for the Albion and we do get leaks. If people constantly criticise those that do provide info not in the Public Domain you will learn nothing...especially those that don't live in Sussex.
Are you saying you have to live in Sussex to have a opinion on the Albion just asking a question,
Think your find most on here use this site because they do not live in Sussex any more but still follow the Albion!!
Just wondered what your last line meant especially those who don't live in Sussex!!
But that's the point surely , if you don't live in sussex , your not likely to hear snippets of interest , and when we do share what we have heard we get critical comments by those who support the argus information as though it's real journalism! All stories come through Paul Camlin ( press officer)
But the other point is many people who buy season tickets are not happy with this pre season.. Something is not right in my mind ... Sami already seems to be trotting out humble statements .. Rather than we are building for the start, the players can't wait,
theres certainly something not right in your mind.cockwomble
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]farside[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seagull John[/bold] wrote: There is no 'e' in loath![/p][/quote]Correct as it is the adjective meaning 'unwilling or reluctant" (as opposed to the verb meaning "dislike or hate) and as such your comment is both more interesting and more accurate than MBTS' pretence that he has any actual knowledge about anything.[/p][/quote]I don't understand you and AIS' constant criticism of MBTS. He has over the years given us a lot of good information about the Club and so have others. The only reason I look at this site is to hopefully have a laugh, gain info on Albion and I always welcome the odd titbits of news before the Argus has an article....not to read pompous, egotistic opinions stating the blindingly obvious which constitute most of the posts. Some of us do have friends that work for the Albion and we do get leaks. If people constantly criticise those that do provide info not in the Public Domain you will learn nothing...especially those that don't live in Sussex.[/p][/quote]Are you saying you have to live in Sussex to have a opinion on the Albion just asking a question, Think your find most on here use this site because they do not live in Sussex any more but still follow the Albion!! Just wondered what your last line meant especially those who don't live in Sussex!![/p][/quote]But that's the point surely , if you don't live in sussex , your not likely to hear snippets of interest , and when we do share what we have heard we get critical comments by those who support the argus information as though it's real journalism! All stories come through Paul Camlin ( press officer) But the other point is many people who buy season tickets are not happy with this pre season.. Something is not right in my mind ... Sami already seems to be trotting out humble statements .. Rather than we are building for the start, the players can't wait,[/p][/quote]theres certainly something not right in your mind.cockwomble Cockwomble
  • Score: -3

1:36pm Sun 13 Jul 14

Cockwomble says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Cockwomble wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
AlanDuffy wrote:
Personally, I don't want to see Leo go, but if his heart is set on a move, then I think it's inevitable. The positive aspect of such a move would be that we have a significant sum available for getting in the 5-6 players that we need, on a permanent basis, rather than loans. Maybe this is why we've been biding our time on getting players in. I expect some big news in the near future.
Where is the 5 million collected from selling Bridcutt Barnes etc?
Sami has two weeks to go, and we are desperately short in very position,
Keeper is a massive worry ,
Wolves may send ward out again on loan .
keeper is a minor worry.angkergren is fine as stopgap.cockwomble
You clearly have not seen him play!
seen him plenty.makes the odd gaff but no more than others.tk no better in last dozen games
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlanDuffy[/bold] wrote: Personally, I don't want to see Leo go, but if his heart is set on a move, then I think it's inevitable. The positive aspect of such a move would be that we have a significant sum available for getting in the 5-6 players that we need, on a permanent basis, rather than loans. Maybe this is why we've been biding our time on getting players in. I expect some big news in the near future.[/p][/quote]Where is the 5 million collected from selling Bridcutt Barnes etc? Sami has two weeks to go, and we are desperately short in very position, Keeper is a massive worry , Wolves may send ward out again on loan .[/p][/quote]keeper is a minor worry.angkergren is fine as stopgap.cockwomble[/p][/quote]You clearly have not seen him play![/p][/quote]seen him plenty.makes the odd gaff but no more than others.tk no better in last dozen games Cockwomble
  • Score: 2

1:47pm Sun 13 Jul 14

pte says...

mark by the sea wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
farside wrote:
Seagull John wrote:
There is no 'e' in loath!
Correct as it is the adjective meaning 'unwilling or reluctant" (as opposed to the verb meaning "dislike or hate) and as such your comment is both more interesting and more accurate than MBTS' pretence that he has any actual knowledge about anything.
I don't understand you and AIS' constant criticism of MBTS.
He has over the years given us a lot of good information about the Club and so have others. The only reason I look at this site is to hopefully have a laugh, gain info on Albion and I always welcome the odd titbits of news before the Argus has an article....not to read pompous, egotistic opinions stating the blindingly obvious which constitute most of the posts. Some of us do have friends that work for the Albion and we do get leaks. If people constantly criticise those that do provide info not in the Public Domain you will learn nothing...especially those that don't live in Sussex.
Are you saying you have to live in Sussex to have a opinion on the Albion just asking a question,
Think your find most on here use this site because they do not live in Sussex any more but still follow the Albion!!
Just wondered what your last line meant especially those who don't live in Sussex!!
But that's the point surely , if you don't live in sussex , your not likely to hear snippets of interest , and when we do share what we have heard we get critical comments by those who support the argus information as though it's real journalism! All stories come through Paul Camlin ( press officer)
But the other point is many people who buy season tickets are not happy with this pre season.. Something is not right in my mind ... Sami already seems to be trotting out humble statements .. Rather than we are building for the start, the players can't wait,
I would think everything "Sami says" comes from the club. Actually they did mention the p word not long ago which surprised me and made me wonder if they are either deluded or just trying to sell season tickets.

The squad does look rather old muvver hubbard. You wonder what would happen if Greer was injured. That gives him enormous power over the manager.

But maybe we are in for a pleasant surprise and the younger players will develop so that we avoid a relegation scrap.

Club has made mistakes but with hindsight have dodged a few bullets too
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]farside[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seagull John[/bold] wrote: There is no 'e' in loath![/p][/quote]Correct as it is the adjective meaning 'unwilling or reluctant" (as opposed to the verb meaning "dislike or hate) and as such your comment is both more interesting and more accurate than MBTS' pretence that he has any actual knowledge about anything.[/p][/quote]I don't understand you and AIS' constant criticism of MBTS. He has over the years given us a lot of good information about the Club and so have others. The only reason I look at this site is to hopefully have a laugh, gain info on Albion and I always welcome the odd titbits of news before the Argus has an article....not to read pompous, egotistic opinions stating the blindingly obvious which constitute most of the posts. Some of us do have friends that work for the Albion and we do get leaks. If people constantly criticise those that do provide info not in the Public Domain you will learn nothing...especially those that don't live in Sussex.[/p][/quote]Are you saying you have to live in Sussex to have a opinion on the Albion just asking a question, Think your find most on here use this site because they do not live in Sussex any more but still follow the Albion!! Just wondered what your last line meant especially those who don't live in Sussex!![/p][/quote]But that's the point surely , if you don't live in sussex , your not likely to hear snippets of interest , and when we do share what we have heard we get critical comments by those who support the argus information as though it's real journalism! All stories come through Paul Camlin ( press officer) But the other point is many people who buy season tickets are not happy with this pre season.. Something is not right in my mind ... Sami already seems to be trotting out humble statements .. Rather than we are building for the start, the players can't wait,[/p][/quote]I would think everything "Sami says" comes from the club. Actually they did mention the p word not long ago which surprised me and made me wonder if they are either deluded or just trying to sell season tickets. The squad does look rather old muvver hubbard. You wonder what would happen if Greer was injured. That gives him enormous power over the manager. But maybe we are in for a pleasant surprise and the younger players will develop so that we avoid a relegation scrap. Club has made mistakes but with hindsight have dodged a few bullets too pte
  • Score: -1

2:00pm Sun 13 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

Mark, you suggest that Brighton's press officer is leaking, 'snippets,' here and there, and that those based in Sussex are better placed to pick up on these snippets, I'll give you that as being likely.

So having accepted your premice that the club is leaking a little info here and there, do you think it possible that the press officer let it be known that we want 10M for Leo? If you do, would you also agree that this goes against your assertion, an assertion based on a conversation you had with another good source, Leo does not have a release clause of 7M in his contract?
The Argus, just like those who live in sussex, pick up on snippets, both reveal what they have heard, but a snippet is not a statement and statements are what really count no matter where the snippets come from.

Those of us that live outside of Sussex don't get to hear snippets, and we can only reply to those that do, but those that do should temper their comments to reflect the validity of what they are hearing, that way snippets don't become stated as, 'facts.' You claim to hear certain things and you then pass on what you have heard, and I thank you for that, all I would ask is that you clarify the difference between a snippet and a fact and not let the former become the latter until it is proven.

'Not sure if it's true but, I was talking with X in the bar at the Amex, and he suggested that Ulloa has a 7M release clause in his contract,' see the difference Mark, a snippet not stated as a fact.
Mark, you suggest that Brighton's press officer is leaking, 'snippets,' here and there, and that those based in Sussex are better placed to pick up on these snippets, I'll give you that as being likely. So having accepted your premice that the club is leaking a little info here and there, do you think it possible that the press officer let it be known that we want 10M for Leo? If you do, would you also agree that this goes against your assertion, an assertion based on a conversation you had with another good source, Leo does not have a release clause of 7M in his contract? The Argus, just like those who live in sussex, pick up on snippets, both reveal what they have heard, but a snippet is not a statement and statements are what really count no matter where the snippets come from. Those of us that live outside of Sussex don't get to hear snippets, and we can only reply to those that do, but those that do should temper their comments to reflect the validity of what they are hearing, that way snippets don't become stated as, 'facts.' You claim to hear certain things and you then pass on what you have heard, and I thank you for that, all I would ask is that you clarify the difference between a snippet and a fact and not let the former become the latter until it is proven. 'Not sure if it's true but, I was talking with X in the bar at the Amex, and he suggested that Ulloa has a 7M release clause in his contract,' see the difference Mark, a snippet not stated as a fact. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 7

2:04pm Sun 13 Jul 14

Rhodes Seagull says...

What is it about us supporters that makes us think that if the money is right the player will go?
What if Leo is happy at the club and does not want to move on at this time?, maybe wants another season before stepping up with us or a team already up there. We cannot tarnish all players with the same brush and assume money is there top priority but maybe playing every week is more important.
I no in the short life of a player that he has to make a good living but many also put family first or I would assume location and team friends that can be called upon when and if needed. I can see him moving on like we all try to do when in work to get up the ladder.
His agent as in most cases will be the pusher, wanting more money for number one 'Himself' not worried if the player is happy to move on.
Leo from what I have seen and heard is a hard working player who runs for the whole game and seems winning is up there for him not just wages at the end of the day.
I hope he stays as a Brighton player for at least this season as many have stated onhere "Leo and CMS up front could reap big rewards"!!!!
What is it about us supporters that makes us think that if the money is right the player will go? What if Leo is happy at the club and does not want to move on at this time?, maybe wants another season before stepping up with us or a team already up there. We cannot tarnish all players with the same brush and assume money is there top priority but maybe playing every week is more important. I no in the short life of a player that he has to make a good living but many also put family first or I would assume location and team friends that can be called upon when and if needed. I can see him moving on like we all try to do when in work to get up the ladder. His agent as in most cases will be the pusher, wanting more money for number one 'Himself' not worried if the player is happy to move on. Leo from what I have seen and heard is a hard working player who runs for the whole game and seems winning is up there for him not just wages at the end of the day. I hope he stays as a Brighton player for at least this season as many have stated onhere "Leo and CMS up front could reap big rewards"!!!! Rhodes Seagull
  • Score: 4

2:18pm Sun 13 Jul 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

Rhodes Seagull wrote:
What is it about us supporters that makes us think that if the money is right the player will go?
What if Leo is happy at the club and does not want to move on at this time?, maybe wants another season before stepping up with us or a team already up there. We cannot tarnish all players with the same brush and assume money is there top priority but maybe playing every week is more important.
I no in the short life of a player that he has to make a good living but many also put family first or I would assume location and team friends that can be called upon when and if needed. I can see him moving on like we all try to do when in work to get up the ladder.
His agent as in most cases will be the pusher, wanting more money for number one 'Himself' not worried if the player is happy to move on.
Leo from what I have seen and heard is a hard working player who runs for the whole game and seems winning is up there for him not just wages at the end of the day.
I hope he stays as a Brighton player for at least this season as many have stated onhere "Leo and CMS up front could reap big rewards"!!!!
Has Ullao put put in a transfer request NO.
Does he want to play in the premiership YES.

He must still be happy here down south,like you say RG another year here,he is only 28 not 35 thinking its his last chance.
[quote][p][bold]Rhodes Seagull[/bold] wrote: What is it about us supporters that makes us think that if the money is right the player will go? What if Leo is happy at the club and does not want to move on at this time?, maybe wants another season before stepping up with us or a team already up there. We cannot tarnish all players with the same brush and assume money is there top priority but maybe playing every week is more important. I no in the short life of a player that he has to make a good living but many also put family first or I would assume location and team friends that can be called upon when and if needed. I can see him moving on like we all try to do when in work to get up the ladder. His agent as in most cases will be the pusher, wanting more money for number one 'Himself' not worried if the player is happy to move on. Leo from what I have seen and heard is a hard working player who runs for the whole game and seems winning is up there for him not just wages at the end of the day. I hope he stays as a Brighton player for at least this season as many have stated onhere "Leo and CMS up front could reap big rewards"!!!![/p][/quote]Has Ullao put put in a transfer request NO. Does he want to play in the premiership YES. He must still be happy here down south,like you say RG another year here,he is only 28 not 35 thinking its his last chance. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 7

2:22pm Sun 13 Jul 14

ringtone says...

don't wanna do it like that wrote:
Rhodes Seagull wrote:
What is it about us supporters that makes us think that if the money is right the player will go?
What if Leo is happy at the club and does not want to move on at this time?, maybe wants another season before stepping up with us or a team already up there. We cannot tarnish all players with the same brush and assume money is there top priority but maybe playing every week is more important.
I no in the short life of a player that he has to make a good living but many also put family first or I would assume location and team friends that can be called upon when and if needed. I can see him moving on like we all try to do when in work to get up the ladder.
His agent as in most cases will be the pusher, wanting more money for number one 'Himself' not worried if the player is happy to move on.
Leo from what I have seen and heard is a hard working player who runs for the whole game and seems winning is up there for him not just wages at the end of the day.
I hope he stays as a Brighton player for at least this season as many have stated onhere "Leo and CMS up front could reap big rewards"!!!!
Has Ullao put put in a transfer request NO.
Does he want to play in the premiership YES.

He must still be happy here down south,like you say RG another year here,he is only 28 not 35 thinking its his last chance.
Dream on.
[quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rhodes Seagull[/bold] wrote: What is it about us supporters that makes us think that if the money is right the player will go? What if Leo is happy at the club and does not want to move on at this time?, maybe wants another season before stepping up with us or a team already up there. We cannot tarnish all players with the same brush and assume money is there top priority but maybe playing every week is more important. I no in the short life of a player that he has to make a good living but many also put family first or I would assume location and team friends that can be called upon when and if needed. I can see him moving on like we all try to do when in work to get up the ladder. His agent as in most cases will be the pusher, wanting more money for number one 'Himself' not worried if the player is happy to move on. Leo from what I have seen and heard is a hard working player who runs for the whole game and seems winning is up there for him not just wages at the end of the day. I hope he stays as a Brighton player for at least this season as many have stated onhere "Leo and CMS up front could reap big rewards"!!!![/p][/quote]Has Ullao put put in a transfer request NO. Does he want to play in the premiership YES. He must still be happy here down south,like you say RG another year here,he is only 28 not 35 thinking its his last chance.[/p][/quote]Dream on. ringtone
  • Score: -4

2:25pm Sun 13 Jul 14

ringtone says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Mark, you suggest that Brighton's press officer is leaking, 'snippets,' here and there, and that those based in Sussex are better placed to pick up on these snippets, I'll give you that as being likely.

So having accepted your premice that the club is leaking a little info here and there, do you think it possible that the press officer let it be known that we want 10M for Leo? If you do, would you also agree that this goes against your assertion, an assertion based on a conversation you had with another good source, Leo does not have a release clause of 7M in his contract?
The Argus, just like those who live in sussex, pick up on snippets, both reveal what they have heard, but a snippet is not a statement and statements are what really count no matter where the snippets come from.

Those of us that live outside of Sussex don't get to hear snippets, and we can only reply to those that do, but those that do should temper their comments to reflect the validity of what they are hearing, that way snippets don't become stated as, 'facts.' You claim to hear certain things and you then pass on what you have heard, and I thank you for that, all I would ask is that you clarify the difference between a snippet and a fact and not let the former become the latter until it is proven.

'Not sure if it's true but, I was talking with X in the bar at the Amex, and he suggested that Ulloa has a 7M release clause in his contract,' see the difference Mark, a snippet not stated as a fact.
Ex-Pat Vegas. (Extremley Patronising)
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Mark, you suggest that Brighton's press officer is leaking, 'snippets,' here and there, and that those based in Sussex are better placed to pick up on these snippets, I'll give you that as being likely. So having accepted your premice that the club is leaking a little info here and there, do you think it possible that the press officer let it be known that we want 10M for Leo? If you do, would you also agree that this goes against your assertion, an assertion based on a conversation you had with another good source, Leo does not have a release clause of 7M in his contract? The Argus, just like those who live in sussex, pick up on snippets, both reveal what they have heard, but a snippet is not a statement and statements are what really count no matter where the snippets come from. Those of us that live outside of Sussex don't get to hear snippets, and we can only reply to those that do, but those that do should temper their comments to reflect the validity of what they are hearing, that way snippets don't become stated as, 'facts.' You claim to hear certain things and you then pass on what you have heard, and I thank you for that, all I would ask is that you clarify the difference between a snippet and a fact and not let the former become the latter until it is proven. 'Not sure if it's true but, I was talking with X in the bar at the Amex, and he suggested that Ulloa has a 7M release clause in his contract,' see the difference Mark, a snippet not stated as a fact.[/p][/quote]Ex-Pat Vegas. (Extremley Patronising) ringtone
  • Score: 1

2:43pm Sun 13 Jul 14

ringtone says...

Cockwomble wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Cockwomble wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
AlanDuffy wrote:
Personally, I don't want to see Leo go, but if his heart is set on a move, then I think it's inevitable. The positive aspect of such a move would be that we have a significant sum available for getting in the 5-6 players that we need, on a permanent basis, rather than loans. Maybe this is why we've been biding our time on getting players in. I expect some big news in the near future.
Where is the 5 million collected from selling Bridcutt Barnes etc?
Sami has two weeks to go, and we are desperately short in very position,
Keeper is a massive worry ,
Wolves may send ward out again on loan .
keeper is a minor worry.angkergren is fine as stopgap.cockwomble
You clearly have not seen him play!
seen him plenty.makes the odd gaff but no more than others.tk no better in last dozen games
He makes gaffs in every game, Fact.

This could be sammys first mistake.

A touch of the old scandanavian bias, now even you can work that one out cockwomble.
[quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlanDuffy[/bold] wrote: Personally, I don't want to see Leo go, but if his heart is set on a move, then I think it's inevitable. The positive aspect of such a move would be that we have a significant sum available for getting in the 5-6 players that we need, on a permanent basis, rather than loans. Maybe this is why we've been biding our time on getting players in. I expect some big news in the near future.[/p][/quote]Where is the 5 million collected from selling Bridcutt Barnes etc? Sami has two weeks to go, and we are desperately short in very position, Keeper is a massive worry , Wolves may send ward out again on loan .[/p][/quote]keeper is a minor worry.angkergren is fine as stopgap.cockwomble[/p][/quote]You clearly have not seen him play![/p][/quote]seen him plenty.makes the odd gaff but no more than others.tk no better in last dozen games[/p][/quote]He makes gaffs in every game, Fact. This could be sammys first mistake. A touch of the old scandanavian bias, now even you can work that one out cockwomble. ringtone
  • Score: -2

2:58pm Sun 13 Jul 14

Cockwomble says...

ringtone wrote:
Cockwomble wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Cockwomble wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
AlanDuffy wrote:
Personally, I don't want to see Leo go, but if his heart is set on a move, then I think it's inevitable. The positive aspect of such a move would be that we have a significant sum available for getting in the 5-6 players that we need, on a permanent basis, rather than loans. Maybe this is why we've been biding our time on getting players in. I expect some big news in the near future.
Where is the 5 million collected from selling Bridcutt Barnes etc?
Sami has two weeks to go, and we are desperately short in very position,
Keeper is a massive worry ,
Wolves may send ward out again on loan .
keeper is a minor worry.angkergren is fine as stopgap.cockwomble
You clearly have not seen him play!
seen him plenty.makes the odd gaff but no more than others.tk no better in last dozen games
He makes gaffs in every game, Fact.

This could be sammys first mistake.

A touch of the old scandanavian bias, now even you can work that one out cockwomble.
anyone who finishes a statement with the word fact is a massive cockwomble.especiall
y when that statement is very far from fact indeed.cockwomble
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlanDuffy[/bold] wrote: Personally, I don't want to see Leo go, but if his heart is set on a move, then I think it's inevitable. The positive aspect of such a move would be that we have a significant sum available for getting in the 5-6 players that we need, on a permanent basis, rather than loans. Maybe this is why we've been biding our time on getting players in. I expect some big news in the near future.[/p][/quote]Where is the 5 million collected from selling Bridcutt Barnes etc? Sami has two weeks to go, and we are desperately short in very position, Keeper is a massive worry , Wolves may send ward out again on loan .[/p][/quote]keeper is a minor worry.angkergren is fine as stopgap.cockwomble[/p][/quote]You clearly have not seen him play![/p][/quote]seen him plenty.makes the odd gaff but no more than others.tk no better in last dozen games[/p][/quote]He makes gaffs in every game, Fact. This could be sammys first mistake. A touch of the old scandanavian bias, now even you can work that one out cockwomble.[/p][/quote]anyone who finishes a statement with the word fact is a massive cockwomble.especiall y when that statement is very far from fact indeed.cockwomble Cockwomble
  • Score: 1

3:13pm Sun 13 Jul 14

sussexram40 says...

Have heard on the grapevine that Ulloa's move will be confirmed by the club on Tuesday this week at the latest, but quite possibly tomorrow (Mon) afternoon. (Inside info guys).
Have heard on the grapevine that Ulloa's move will be confirmed by the club on Tuesday this week at the latest, but quite possibly tomorrow (Mon) afternoon. (Inside info guys). sussexram40
  • Score: -5

3:17pm Sun 13 Jul 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

ringtone wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
Rhodes Seagull wrote:
What is it about us supporters that makes us think that if the money is right the player will go?
What if Leo is happy at the club and does not want to move on at this time?, maybe wants another season before stepping up with us or a team already up there. We cannot tarnish all players with the same brush and assume money is there top priority but maybe playing every week is more important.
I no in the short life of a player that he has to make a good living but many also put family first or I would assume location and team friends that can be called upon when and if needed. I can see him moving on like we all try to do when in work to get up the ladder.
His agent as in most cases will be the pusher, wanting more money for number one 'Himself' not worried if the player is happy to move on.
Leo from what I have seen and heard is a hard working player who runs for the whole game and seems winning is up there for him not just wages at the end of the day.
I hope he stays as a Brighton player for at least this season as many have stated onhere "Leo and CMS up front could reap big rewards"!!!!
Has Ullao put put in a transfer request NO.
Does he want to play in the premiership YES.

He must still be happy here down south,like you say RG another year here,he is only 28 not 35 thinking its his last chance.
Dream on.
Do you mean the song.

DREAM ON-AEROSMITH
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rhodes Seagull[/bold] wrote: What is it about us supporters that makes us think that if the money is right the player will go? What if Leo is happy at the club and does not want to move on at this time?, maybe wants another season before stepping up with us or a team already up there. We cannot tarnish all players with the same brush and assume money is there top priority but maybe playing every week is more important. I no in the short life of a player that he has to make a good living but many also put family first or I would assume location and team friends that can be called upon when and if needed. I can see him moving on like we all try to do when in work to get up the ladder. His agent as in most cases will be the pusher, wanting more money for number one 'Himself' not worried if the player is happy to move on. Leo from what I have seen and heard is a hard working player who runs for the whole game and seems winning is up there for him not just wages at the end of the day. I hope he stays as a Brighton player for at least this season as many have stated onhere "Leo and CMS up front could reap big rewards"!!!![/p][/quote]Has Ullao put put in a transfer request NO. Does he want to play in the premiership YES. He must still be happy here down south,like you say RG another year here,he is only 28 not 35 thinking its his last chance.[/p][/quote]Dream on.[/p][/quote]Do you mean the song. DREAM ON-AEROSMITH don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: -5

4:13pm Sun 13 Jul 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Mark, you suggest that Brighton's press officer is leaking, 'snippets,' here and there, and that those based in Sussex are better placed to pick up on these snippets, I'll give you that as being likely.

So having accepted your premice that the club is leaking a little info here and there, do you think it possible that the press officer let it be known that we want 10M for Leo? If you do, would you also agree that this goes against your assertion, an assertion based on a conversation you had with another good source, Leo does not have a release clause of 7M in his contract?
The Argus, just like those who live in sussex, pick up on snippets, both reveal what they have heard, but a snippet is not a statement and statements are what really count no matter where the snippets come from.

Those of us that live outside of Sussex don't get to hear snippets, and we can only reply to those that do, but those that do should temper their comments to reflect the validity of what they are hearing, that way snippets don't become stated as, 'facts.' You claim to hear certain things and you then pass on what you have heard, and I thank you for that, all I would ask is that you clarify the difference between a snippet and a fact and not let the former become the latter until it is proven.

'Not sure if it's true but, I was talking with X in the bar at the Amex, and he suggested that Ulloa has a 7M release clause in his contract,' see the difference Mark, a snippet not stated as a fact.
Not leaked at all, the vast majority of 'news' actually comes from the albions own website...
Where I wonder if there has been a falling out is the argus does not seem to have any real time interviews anymore, ie Naylor asking and quoting manager or Burke , jones or barber...
I think saints had the same issue with there local paper or Pompey I think, and they only reported rumours etc,,..
Finally Vegas , the release clause was 7.5 million and that was via someone I was with who knew the Leicester scout..
THAT WAS 6 months ago I stated that, and I am not going to be far wrong...if as I hear the club have asked him to request in writing a transfer the club may sell him for less IE LEICESTER may not pay 7.5 for ulloa .. But the club may want to let him leave as he wants away.
I doubt we will ever know the full details when he goes.
With regards to hhypia .. He has two weeks to get things in place, I just feel he is isolated with jones not being his backup if things go wrong.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Mark, you suggest that Brighton's press officer is leaking, 'snippets,' here and there, and that those based in Sussex are better placed to pick up on these snippets, I'll give you that as being likely. So having accepted your premice that the club is leaking a little info here and there, do you think it possible that the press officer let it be known that we want 10M for Leo? If you do, would you also agree that this goes against your assertion, an assertion based on a conversation you had with another good source, Leo does not have a release clause of 7M in his contract? The Argus, just like those who live in sussex, pick up on snippets, both reveal what they have heard, but a snippet is not a statement and statements are what really count no matter where the snippets come from. Those of us that live outside of Sussex don't get to hear snippets, and we can only reply to those that do, but those that do should temper their comments to reflect the validity of what they are hearing, that way snippets don't become stated as, 'facts.' You claim to hear certain things and you then pass on what you have heard, and I thank you for that, all I would ask is that you clarify the difference between a snippet and a fact and not let the former become the latter until it is proven. 'Not sure if it's true but, I was talking with X in the bar at the Amex, and he suggested that Ulloa has a 7M release clause in his contract,' see the difference Mark, a snippet not stated as a fact.[/p][/quote]Not leaked at all, the vast majority of 'news' actually comes from the albions own website... Where I wonder if there has been a falling out is the argus does not seem to have any real time interviews anymore, ie Naylor asking and quoting manager or Burke , jones or barber... I think saints had the same issue with there local paper or Pompey I think, and they only reported rumours etc,,.. Finally Vegas , the release clause was 7.5 million and that was via someone I was with who knew the Leicester scout.. THAT WAS 6 months ago I stated that, and I am not going to be far wrong...if as I hear the club have asked him to request in writing a transfer the club may sell him for less IE LEICESTER may not pay 7.5 for ulloa .. But the club may want to let him leave as he wants away. I doubt we will ever know the full details when he goes. With regards to hhypia .. He has two weeks to get things in place, I just feel he is isolated with jones not being his backup if things go wrong. mark by the sea
  • Score: 2

4:34pm Sun 13 Jul 14

JeffLomer says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Mark, you suggest that Brighton's press officer is leaking, 'snippets,' here and there, and that those based in Sussex are better placed to pick up on these snippets, I'll give you that as being likely.

So having accepted your premice that the club is leaking a little info here and there, do you think it possible that the press officer let it be known that we want 10M for Leo? If you do, would you also agree that this goes against your assertion, an assertion based on a conversation you had with another good source, Leo does not have a release clause of 7M in his contract?
The Argus, just like those who live in sussex, pick up on snippets, both reveal what they have heard, but a snippet is not a statement and statements are what really count no matter where the snippets come from.

Those of us that live outside of Sussex don't get to hear snippets, and we can only reply to those that do, but those that do should temper their comments to reflect the validity of what they are hearing, that way snippets don't become stated as, 'facts.' You claim to hear certain things and you then pass on what you have heard, and I thank you for that, all I would ask is that you clarify the difference between a snippet and a fact and not let the former become the latter until it is proven.

'Not sure if it's true but, I was talking with X in the bar at the Amex, and he suggested that Ulloa has a 7M release clause in his contract,' see the difference Mark, a snippet not stated as a fact.
What a great post couldn't agree more Vegas I think your post is all for us who live outside Sussex and further a field makes us no more lesser fan than anyone else, who all follow the Albion at home or away or on pc no different, every ones circumstances are different,
Up the Albion!!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Mark, you suggest that Brighton's press officer is leaking, 'snippets,' here and there, and that those based in Sussex are better placed to pick up on these snippets, I'll give you that as being likely. So having accepted your premice that the club is leaking a little info here and there, do you think it possible that the press officer let it be known that we want 10M for Leo? If you do, would you also agree that this goes against your assertion, an assertion based on a conversation you had with another good source, Leo does not have a release clause of 7M in his contract? The Argus, just like those who live in sussex, pick up on snippets, both reveal what they have heard, but a snippet is not a statement and statements are what really count no matter where the snippets come from. Those of us that live outside of Sussex don't get to hear snippets, and we can only reply to those that do, but those that do should temper their comments to reflect the validity of what they are hearing, that way snippets don't become stated as, 'facts.' You claim to hear certain things and you then pass on what you have heard, and I thank you for that, all I would ask is that you clarify the difference between a snippet and a fact and not let the former become the latter until it is proven. 'Not sure if it's true but, I was talking with X in the bar at the Amex, and he suggested that Ulloa has a 7M release clause in his contract,' see the difference Mark, a snippet not stated as a fact.[/p][/quote]What a great post couldn't agree more Vegas I think your post is all for us who live outside Sussex and further a field makes us no more lesser fan than anyone else, who all follow the Albion at home or away or on pc no different, every ones circumstances are different, Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: -11

4:48pm Sun 13 Jul 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

Guernsey gull wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
So much BS posted today, many names but down to just a couple of people.
Most of it by you.
Are you really a seagull fan Mayfield sweeper, nothing you put on this site, would suggest you are, so why not stop wasting space, and get on with your road sweeping , or village idiot duties in Mayfield !
Just because I'm not afraid to raise the issues that many are afraid of and criticise where needed does not mean you should be doubting. I am simply concerned for the Albion.
[quote][p][bold]Guernsey gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: So much BS posted today, many names but down to just a couple of people.[/p][/quote]Most of it by you.[/p][/quote]Are you really a seagull fan Mayfield sweeper, nothing you put on this site, would suggest you are, so why not stop wasting space, and get on with your road sweeping , or village idiot duties in Mayfield ![/p][/quote]Just because I'm not afraid to raise the issues that many are afraid of and criticise where needed does not mean you should be doubting. I am simply concerned for the Albion. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -1

5:00pm Sun 13 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Mark, you suggest that Brighton's press officer is leaking, 'snippets,' here and there, and that those based in Sussex are better placed to pick up on these snippets, I'll give you that as being likely.

So having accepted your premice that the club is leaking a little info here and there, do you think it possible that the press officer let it be known that we want 10M for Leo? If you do, would you also agree that this goes against your assertion, an assertion based on a conversation you had with another good source, Leo does not have a release clause of 7M in his contract?
The Argus, just like those who live in sussex, pick up on snippets, both reveal what they have heard, but a snippet is not a statement and statements are what really count no matter where the snippets come from.

Those of us that live outside of Sussex don't get to hear snippets, and we can only reply to those that do, but those that do should temper their comments to reflect the validity of what they are hearing, that way snippets don't become stated as, 'facts.' You claim to hear certain things and you then pass on what you have heard, and I thank you for that, all I would ask is that you clarify the difference between a snippet and a fact and not let the former become the latter until it is proven.

'Not sure if it's true but, I was talking with X in the bar at the Amex, and he suggested that Ulloa has a 7M release clause in his contract,' see the difference Mark, a snippet not stated as a fact.
Not leaked at all, the vast majority of 'news' actually comes from the albions own website...
Where I wonder if there has been a falling out is the argus does not seem to have any real time interviews anymore, ie Naylor asking and quoting manager or Burke , jones or barber...
I think saints had the same issue with there local paper or Pompey I think, and they only reported rumours etc,,..
Finally Vegas , the release clause was 7.5 million and that was via someone I was with who knew the Leicester scout..
THAT WAS 6 months ago I stated that, and I am not going to be far wrong...if as I hear the club have asked him to request in writing a transfer the club may sell him for less IE LEICESTER may not pay 7.5 for ulloa .. But the club may want to let him leave as he wants away.
I doubt we will ever know the full details when he goes.
With regards to hhypia .. He has two weeks to get things in place, I just feel he is isolated with jones not being his backup if things go wrong.
Well as you know Mark, I too think that if an offer of 7.5M was made, along with a transfer request, he could very well go, so we agree on that point. We just differ on the release clause aspect.

A falling out with the Argus, could be some legs in that opinion, but I do wonder what might have been the cause if indeed there has been a fall out.

Hyypia having just two weeks to, 'get things in place,' we differ slightly on that point. I would agree that it would be very useful to have a full squad as quickly as possible, but I odn't see a big problem if we are still negotiating deals even when the season has started. Our desire to borrow, if we have such a desire, will be dictated by those from whom we wish to borrow, ie the prem clubs. Those talks could drag on.

Not sure what you mean by the, 'isolated,' comment.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Mark, you suggest that Brighton's press officer is leaking, 'snippets,' here and there, and that those based in Sussex are better placed to pick up on these snippets, I'll give you that as being likely. So having accepted your premice that the club is leaking a little info here and there, do you think it possible that the press officer let it be known that we want 10M for Leo? If you do, would you also agree that this goes against your assertion, an assertion based on a conversation you had with another good source, Leo does not have a release clause of 7M in his contract? The Argus, just like those who live in sussex, pick up on snippets, both reveal what they have heard, but a snippet is not a statement and statements are what really count no matter where the snippets come from. Those of us that live outside of Sussex don't get to hear snippets, and we can only reply to those that do, but those that do should temper their comments to reflect the validity of what they are hearing, that way snippets don't become stated as, 'facts.' You claim to hear certain things and you then pass on what you have heard, and I thank you for that, all I would ask is that you clarify the difference between a snippet and a fact and not let the former become the latter until it is proven. 'Not sure if it's true but, I was talking with X in the bar at the Amex, and he suggested that Ulloa has a 7M release clause in his contract,' see the difference Mark, a snippet not stated as a fact.[/p][/quote]Not leaked at all, the vast majority of 'news' actually comes from the albions own website... Where I wonder if there has been a falling out is the argus does not seem to have any real time interviews anymore, ie Naylor asking and quoting manager or Burke , jones or barber... I think saints had the same issue with there local paper or Pompey I think, and they only reported rumours etc,,.. Finally Vegas , the release clause was 7.5 million and that was via someone I was with who knew the Leicester scout.. THAT WAS 6 months ago I stated that, and I am not going to be far wrong...if as I hear the club have asked him to request in writing a transfer the club may sell him for less IE LEICESTER may not pay 7.5 for ulloa .. But the club may want to let him leave as he wants away. I doubt we will ever know the full details when he goes. With regards to hhypia .. He has two weeks to get things in place, I just feel he is isolated with jones not being his backup if things go wrong.[/p][/quote]Well as you know Mark, I too think that if an offer of 7.5M was made, along with a transfer request, he could very well go, so we agree on that point. We just differ on the release clause aspect. A falling out with the Argus, could be some legs in that opinion, but I do wonder what might have been the cause if indeed there has been a fall out. Hyypia having just two weeks to, 'get things in place,' we differ slightly on that point. I would agree that it would be very useful to have a full squad as quickly as possible, but I odn't see a big problem if we are still negotiating deals even when the season has started. Our desire to borrow, if we have such a desire, will be dictated by those from whom we wish to borrow, ie the prem clubs. Those talks could drag on. Not sure what you mean by the, 'isolated,' comment. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

5:13pm Sun 13 Jul 14

ringtone says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Guernsey gull wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
So much BS posted today, many names but down to just a couple of people.
Most of it by you.
Are you really a seagull fan Mayfield sweeper, nothing you put on this site, would suggest you are, so why not stop wasting space, and get on with your road sweeping , or village idiot duties in Mayfield !
Just because I'm not afraid to raise the issues that many are afraid of and criticise where needed does not mean you should be doubting. I am simply concerned for the Albion.
Well said Mayfield.

The real fans must be heard and thankfully the Argus provides the platform.

The real fans are the stakeholders that buy the tickets and merchandise and not those who post silly platitudes.

Onwards and Upwards
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Guernsey gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: So much BS posted today, many names but down to just a couple of people.[/p][/quote]Most of it by you.[/p][/quote]Are you really a seagull fan Mayfield sweeper, nothing you put on this site, would suggest you are, so why not stop wasting space, and get on with your road sweeping , or village idiot duties in Mayfield ![/p][/quote]Just because I'm not afraid to raise the issues that many are afraid of and criticise where needed does not mean you should be doubting. I am simply concerned for the Albion.[/p][/quote]Well said Mayfield. The real fans must be heard and thankfully the Argus provides the platform. The real fans are the stakeholders that buy the tickets and merchandise and not those who post silly platitudes. Onwards and Upwards ringtone
  • Score: 2

5:25pm Sun 13 Jul 14

bbb1969 says...

sussexram40 wrote:
Have heard on the grapevine that Ulloa's move will be confirmed by the club on Tuesday this week at the latest, but quite possibly tomorrow (Mon) afternoon. (Inside info guys).
I heard on the same grapevine that Ulloa may leave or he may stay. he also may be injured may not be injured. we will here something on one of the weeks, Monday - Friday before the Sheffield Wednesday game.
It's just something I've heard, don't shoot the messenger.
[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: Have heard on the grapevine that Ulloa's move will be confirmed by the club on Tuesday this week at the latest, but quite possibly tomorrow (Mon) afternoon. (Inside info guys).[/p][/quote]I heard on the same grapevine that Ulloa may leave or he may stay. he also may be injured may not be injured. we will here something on one of the weeks, Monday - Friday before the Sheffield Wednesday game. It's just something I've heard, don't shoot the messenger. bbb1969
  • Score: 7

5:29pm Sun 13 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

Who would agree that the following might be a good plan, and who wouldn't and why not?

The club has about 4M invested in Ulloa, transfer fees, wages and bounuses. Selling him for 8M would give a 4M profit.

Borrowing three players from the prem would cost around 1.5M in wages, one being a striker.
2M should be enough to buy two decent center backs.
500K is a good down payment on a new keeper, the club might have to stump up a further 250K to make full payment.
I think that we would still be short one striker, but selling Ulloa would not be a disaster if the money was well spent.
Who would agree that the following might be a good plan, and who wouldn't and why not? The club has about 4M invested in Ulloa, transfer fees, wages and bounuses. Selling him for 8M would give a 4M profit. Borrowing three players from the prem would cost around 1.5M in wages, one being a striker. 2M should be enough to buy two decent center backs. 500K is a good down payment on a new keeper, the club might have to stump up a further 250K to make full payment. I think that we would still be short one striker, but selling Ulloa would not be a disaster if the money was well spent. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -4

5:38pm Sun 13 Jul 14

Neville says...

Vegas
In the current climate who is to say how much of that pot would be spent,if last season is anything to go by then not a lot unfortunately.
Vegas In the current climate who is to say how much of that pot would be spent,if last season is anything to go by then not a lot unfortunately. Neville
  • Score: -1

5:43pm Sun 13 Jul 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

bbb1969 wrote:
sussexram40 wrote:
Have heard on the grapevine that Ulloa's move will be confirmed by the club on Tuesday this week at the latest, but quite possibly tomorrow (Mon) afternoon. (Inside info guys).
I heard on the same grapevine that Ulloa may leave or he may stay. he also may be injured may not be injured. we will here something on one of the weeks, Monday - Friday before the Sheffield Wednesday game.
It's just something I've heard, don't shoot the messenger.
Not another vegas and co BS poster or are you hvaing a bit of banter time.

It might be that there is a clause in Ulloa's contract.

If Argentina win the world cup he can go on a freebie.
[quote][p][bold]bbb1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: Have heard on the grapevine that Ulloa's move will be confirmed by the club on Tuesday this week at the latest, but quite possibly tomorrow (Mon) afternoon. (Inside info guys).[/p][/quote]I heard on the same grapevine that Ulloa may leave or he may stay. he also may be injured may not be injured. we will here something on one of the weeks, Monday - Friday before the Sheffield Wednesday game. It's just something I've heard, don't shoot the messenger.[/p][/quote]Not another vegas and co BS poster or are you hvaing a bit of banter time. It might be that there is a clause in Ulloa's contract. If Argentina win the world cup he can go on a freebie. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 0

5:45pm Sun 13 Jul 14

ringtone says...

Neville wrote:
Vegas
In the current climate who is to say how much of that pot would be spent,if last season is anything to go by then not a lot unfortunately.
If we get 7.5 million, it will be the .5
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Vegas In the current climate who is to say how much of that pot would be spent,if last season is anything to go by then not a lot unfortunately.[/p][/quote]If we get 7.5 million, it will be the .5 ringtone
  • Score: 1

5:59pm Sun 13 Jul 14

dave from bexill says...

bbb1969 wrote:
sussexram40 wrote:
Have heard on the grapevine that Ulloa's move will be confirmed by the club on Tuesday this week at the latest, but quite possibly tomorrow (Mon) afternoon. (Inside info guys).
I heard on the same grapevine that Ulloa may leave or he may stay. he also may be injured may not be injured. we will here something on one of the weeks, Monday - Friday before the Sheffield Wednesday game.
It's just something I've heard, don't shoot the messenger.
Ha, ha Like it....Or maybe I don't!
[quote][p][bold]bbb1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: Have heard on the grapevine that Ulloa's move will be confirmed by the club on Tuesday this week at the latest, but quite possibly tomorrow (Mon) afternoon. (Inside info guys).[/p][/quote]I heard on the same grapevine that Ulloa may leave or he may stay. he also may be injured may not be injured. we will here something on one of the weeks, Monday - Friday before the Sheffield Wednesday game. It's just something I've heard, don't shoot the messenger.[/p][/quote]Ha, ha Like it....Or maybe I don't! dave from bexill
  • Score: 5

6:08pm Sun 13 Jul 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Who would agree that the following might be a good plan, and who wouldn't and why not?

The club has about 4M invested in Ulloa, transfer fees, wages and bounuses. Selling him for 8M would give a 4M profit.

Borrowing three players from the prem would cost around 1.5M in wages, one being a striker.
2M should be enough to buy two decent center backs.
500K is a good down payment on a new keeper, the club might have to stump up a further 250K to make full payment.
I think that we would still be short one striker, but selling Ulloa would not be a disaster if the money was well spent.
What are you on about, his wages are not part of a investment , the 2m was a purchase his wages a cost ! What ever people say about Gus , his players have produced. A plus rather than a minus looking at the whole picture of 2 play offs, 27000 average over two years..
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Who would agree that the following might be a good plan, and who wouldn't and why not? The club has about 4M invested in Ulloa, transfer fees, wages and bounuses. Selling him for 8M would give a 4M profit. Borrowing three players from the prem would cost around 1.5M in wages, one being a striker. 2M should be enough to buy two decent center backs. 500K is a good down payment on a new keeper, the club might have to stump up a further 250K to make full payment. I think that we would still be short one striker, but selling Ulloa would not be a disaster if the money was well spent.[/p][/quote]What are you on about, his wages are not part of a investment , the 2m was a purchase his wages a cost ! What ever people say about Gus , his players have produced. A plus rather than a minus looking at the whole picture of 2 play offs, 27000 average over two years.. mark by the sea
  • Score: -3

6:36pm Sun 13 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Who would agree that the following might be a good plan, and who wouldn't and why not?

The club has about 4M invested in Ulloa, transfer fees, wages and bounuses. Selling him for 8M would give a 4M profit.

Borrowing three players from the prem would cost around 1.5M in wages, one being a striker.
2M should be enough to buy two decent center backs.
500K is a good down payment on a new keeper, the club might have to stump up a further 250K to make full payment.
I think that we would still be short one striker, but selling Ulloa would not be a disaster if the money was well spent.
What are you on about, his wages are not part of a investment , the 2m was a purchase his wages a cost ! What ever people say about Gus , his players have produced. A plus rather than a minus looking at the whole picture of 2 play offs, 27000 average over two years..
I term, 'investment,' to be all the moneies paid out, be it in transfer fees, or wages. If you prefer I will use the term, 'total cost.' The club would recoup the, 'total cost,' of having Ulloa on the books for the last 18 months or so.

Why so nit picky when it was clear what I was proposing, and why bring Gus into it when my comment had zip to do with him. I am talking of new spending and that has nothing to do with Poyet.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Who would agree that the following might be a good plan, and who wouldn't and why not? The club has about 4M invested in Ulloa, transfer fees, wages and bounuses. Selling him for 8M would give a 4M profit. Borrowing three players from the prem would cost around 1.5M in wages, one being a striker. 2M should be enough to buy two decent center backs. 500K is a good down payment on a new keeper, the club might have to stump up a further 250K to make full payment. I think that we would still be short one striker, but selling Ulloa would not be a disaster if the money was well spent.[/p][/quote]What are you on about, his wages are not part of a investment , the 2m was a purchase his wages a cost ! What ever people say about Gus , his players have produced. A plus rather than a minus looking at the whole picture of 2 play offs, 27000 average over two years..[/p][/quote]I term, 'investment,' to be all the moneies paid out, be it in transfer fees, or wages. If you prefer I will use the term, 'total cost.' The club would recoup the, 'total cost,' of having Ulloa on the books for the last 18 months or so. Why so nit picky when it was clear what I was proposing, and why bring Gus into it when my comment had zip to do with him. I am talking of new spending and that has nothing to do with Poyet. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 5

6:39pm Sun 13 Jul 14

Neville says...

Expecting some activity this week, advised by someone in hierarchy (absolutely true) that 2 signings to be announced,don't know what positions but expectedely GK and defender (Ward perhaps?).
Re Ulloa,in my opinion only I expect him to move this week and that will be tempered with announcement of 2 arrivals,but realistically that still leaves us 5 players short in my opinion.
Ready for loads of thumbs down as per usual,no prob.
Expecting some activity this week, advised by someone in hierarchy (absolutely true) that 2 signings to be announced,don't know what positions but expectedely GK and defender (Ward perhaps?). Re Ulloa,in my opinion only I expect him to move this week and that will be tempered with announcement of 2 arrivals,but realistically that still leaves us 5 players short in my opinion. Ready for loads of thumbs down as per usual,no prob. Neville
  • Score: 0

6:39pm Sun 13 Jul 14

To baldly go says...

Neville wrote:
Vegas
In the current climate who is to say how much of that pot would be spent,if last season is anything to go by then not a lot unfortunately.
We all think there is big bucks in the kitty, £4m in sales from last season, this seasons transfer budget, new sponsors money and probably £7m+ from the sale of Ulloa! a total around £12m!
I think the club will use £5m of that to comply with this yrs FFP, if that is the case it puts us in a really good position going into the season already knowing we are compliant. Then use some of the remaining money to strengthen the squad, if come January if we are in the top ten and able to push for a play off spot, spend the rest at that point. Easy to say I know, but we don't need to spend all the money in one go, save some for a rainy day, who knows we might need it!
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Vegas In the current climate who is to say how much of that pot would be spent,if last season is anything to go by then not a lot unfortunately.[/p][/quote]We all think there is big bucks in the kitty, £4m in sales from last season, this seasons transfer budget, new sponsors money and probably £7m+ from the sale of Ulloa! a total around £12m! I think the club will use £5m of that to comply with this yrs FFP, if that is the case it puts us in a really good position going into the season already knowing we are compliant. Then use some of the remaining money to strengthen the squad, if come January if we are in the top ten and able to push for a play off spot, spend the rest at that point. Easy to say I know, but we don't need to spend all the money in one go, save some for a rainy day, who knows we might need it! To baldly go
  • Score: 7

6:48pm Sun 13 Jul 14

albionfan33 says...

To baldly go wrote:
Neville wrote:
Vegas
In the current climate who is to say how much of that pot would be spent,if last season is anything to go by then not a lot unfortunately.
We all think there is big bucks in the kitty, £4m in sales from last season, this seasons transfer budget, new sponsors money and probably £7m+ from the sale of Ulloa! a total around £12m!
I think the club will use £5m of that to comply with this yrs FFP, if that is the case it puts us in a really good position going into the season already knowing we are compliant. Then use some of the remaining money to strengthen the squad, if come January if we are in the top ten and able to push for a play off spot, spend the rest at that point. Easy to say I know, but we don't need to spend all the money in one go, save some for a rainy day, who knows we might need it!
im inclined to agree but i would still like us to have 5-6 good quality new faces in before the start of the season. And as u say we can strengthen if needed come jan. We really need a goalie and cb in this week as they are vital positions that SH will want to work with before the season starts
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Vegas In the current climate who is to say how much of that pot would be spent,if last season is anything to go by then not a lot unfortunately.[/p][/quote]We all think there is big bucks in the kitty, £4m in sales from last season, this seasons transfer budget, new sponsors money and probably £7m+ from the sale of Ulloa! a total around £12m! I think the club will use £5m of that to comply with this yrs FFP, if that is the case it puts us in a really good position going into the season already knowing we are compliant. Then use some of the remaining money to strengthen the squad, if come January if we are in the top ten and able to push for a play off spot, spend the rest at that point. Easy to say I know, but we don't need to spend all the money in one go, save some for a rainy day, who knows we might need it![/p][/quote]im inclined to agree but i would still like us to have 5-6 good quality new faces in before the start of the season. And as u say we can strengthen if needed come jan. We really need a goalie and cb in this week as they are vital positions that SH will want to work with before the season starts albionfan33
  • Score: 7

7:25pm Sun 13 Jul 14

ballantrrae says...

albionfan33 wrote:
To baldly go wrote:
Neville wrote:
Vegas
In the current climate who is to say how much of that pot would be spent,if last season is anything to go by then not a lot unfortunately.
We all think there is big bucks in the kitty, £4m in sales from last season, this seasons transfer budget, new sponsors money and probably £7m+ from the sale of Ulloa! a total around £12m!
I think the club will use £5m of that to comply with this yrs FFP, if that is the case it puts us in a really good position going into the season already knowing we are compliant. Then use some of the remaining money to strengthen the squad, if come January if we are in the top ten and able to push for a play off spot, spend the rest at that point. Easy to say I know, but we don't need to spend all the money in one go, save some for a rainy day, who knows we might need it!
im inclined to agree but i would still like us to have 5-6 good quality new faces in before the start of the season. And as u say we can strengthen if needed come jan. We really need a goalie and cb in this week as they are vital positions that SH will want to work with before the season starts
Good points AlbionFan33 and TBGo.
Picking up on the point you both make about 'strengthening' the squad around January I think it is possible that this coming January might provide quite a few potential bargin signings.
The thought here being that when FFP penalties are imposed at the end of this year on 'non-compliant clubs' that some of those clubs might be forced to sell players in the January Window to rectify their position. I appreciate that the Football League might chicken-out or reduce, water down or not even impose the sanctions but if they do, having a bit of Cash in the kitty might be most useful.
As Ringtone said earlier on this thread 'onwards and upwards' for the Albion.
[quote][p][bold]albionfan33[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Vegas In the current climate who is to say how much of that pot would be spent,if last season is anything to go by then not a lot unfortunately.[/p][/quote]We all think there is big bucks in the kitty, £4m in sales from last season, this seasons transfer budget, new sponsors money and probably £7m+ from the sale of Ulloa! a total around £12m! I think the club will use £5m of that to comply with this yrs FFP, if that is the case it puts us in a really good position going into the season already knowing we are compliant. Then use some of the remaining money to strengthen the squad, if come January if we are in the top ten and able to push for a play off spot, spend the rest at that point. Easy to say I know, but we don't need to spend all the money in one go, save some for a rainy day, who knows we might need it![/p][/quote]im inclined to agree but i would still like us to have 5-6 good quality new faces in before the start of the season. And as u say we can strengthen if needed come jan. We really need a goalie and cb in this week as they are vital positions that SH will want to work with before the season starts[/p][/quote]Good points AlbionFan33 and TBGo. Picking up on the point you both make about 'strengthening' the squad around January I think it is possible that this coming January might provide quite a few potential bargin signings. The thought here being that when FFP penalties are imposed at the end of this year on 'non-compliant clubs' that some of those clubs might be forced to sell players in the January Window to rectify their position. I appreciate that the Football League might chicken-out or reduce, water down or not even impose the sanctions but if they do, having a bit of Cash in the kitty might be most useful. As Ringtone said earlier on this thread 'onwards and upwards' for the Albion. ballantrrae
  • Score: 5

7:27pm Sun 13 Jul 14

Cockwomble says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Who would agree that the following might be a good plan, and who wouldn't and why not?

The club has about 4M invested in Ulloa, transfer fees, wages and bounuses. Selling him for 8M would give a 4M profit.

Borrowing three players from the prem would cost around 1.5M in wages, one being a striker.
2M should be enough to buy two decent center backs.
500K is a good down payment on a new keeper, the club might have to stump up a further 250K to make full payment.
I think that we would still be short one striker, but selling Ulloa would not be a disaster if the money was well spent.
What are you on about, his wages are not part of a investment , the 2m was a purchase his wages a cost ! What ever people say about Gus , his players have produced. A plus rather than a minus looking at the whole picture of 2 play offs, 27000 average over two years..
yeah all poyets players produced.except harley.and agdestein.and battepiedi.baz.bergk
amp.sandaza.dobbie.h
olroyd.poke.etc.majo
r revisionism.cockwomb
le
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Who would agree that the following might be a good plan, and who wouldn't and why not? The club has about 4M invested in Ulloa, transfer fees, wages and bounuses. Selling him for 8M would give a 4M profit. Borrowing three players from the prem would cost around 1.5M in wages, one being a striker. 2M should be enough to buy two decent center backs. 500K is a good down payment on a new keeper, the club might have to stump up a further 250K to make full payment. I think that we would still be short one striker, but selling Ulloa would not be a disaster if the money was well spent.[/p][/quote]What are you on about, his wages are not part of a investment , the 2m was a purchase his wages a cost ! What ever people say about Gus , his players have produced. A plus rather than a minus looking at the whole picture of 2 play offs, 27000 average over two years..[/p][/quote]yeah all poyets players produced.except harley.and agdestein.and battepiedi.baz.bergk amp.sandaza.dobbie.h olroyd.poke.etc.majo r revisionism.cockwomb le Cockwomble
  • Score: 1

7:38pm Sun 13 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

Neville wrote:
Expecting some activity this week, advised by someone in hierarchy (absolutely true) that 2 signings to be announced,don't know what positions but expectedely GK and defender (Ward perhaps?).
Re Ulloa,in my opinion only I expect him to move this week and that will be tempered with announcement of 2 arrivals,but realistically that still leaves us 5 players short in my opinion.
Ready for loads of thumbs down as per usual,no prob.
Hi Neville.
Whilst it is possible that Ulloa will go, I would not count on it. The last reported offer was around 6M, the reported value the club has placed on Ulloa is 10M, the reported fee Leicester are considering for a different striker, (his name escapes me) is 6M.
I don't know how close Leicester would have to come to our valuation to get Leo, but is it possible that the board at Leicester have set a limit on spending? I have voiced my opinion that 8M might get the deal done, but just maybe 8M is not available.

For Leo to go early next week a bid would have to come in first and be accepted, they won't be able to keep it a secret, and I doubt Brighton would want to, just in case another club is watching.

I am of the opinion, rightly or wrongly, that a new bid has not as yet been made and may not be due to no other reason than how quick we were to decline the last bid, just a few hours. By now the board at Leicester must know that nothing short of a huge offer will get him. I think it possible that Leo has been told that if the magic number is offered he can go, but I doubt very much if he knows the number, hence no transfer request at this time.

IMHO, if we get two new guys next week, then maybe only 3 short as Toko has already arrived.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Expecting some activity this week, advised by someone in hierarchy (absolutely true) that 2 signings to be announced,don't know what positions but expectedely GK and defender (Ward perhaps?). Re Ulloa,in my opinion only I expect him to move this week and that will be tempered with announcement of 2 arrivals,but realistically that still leaves us 5 players short in my opinion. Ready for loads of thumbs down as per usual,no prob.[/p][/quote]Hi Neville. Whilst it is possible that Ulloa will go, I would not count on it. The last reported offer was around 6M, the reported value the club has placed on Ulloa is 10M, the reported fee Leicester are considering for a different striker, (his name escapes me) is 6M. I don't know how close Leicester would have to come to our valuation to get Leo, but is it possible that the board at Leicester have set a limit on spending? I have voiced my opinion that 8M might get the deal done, but just maybe 8M is not available. For Leo to go early next week a bid would have to come in first and be accepted, they won't be able to keep it a secret, and I doubt Brighton would want to, just in case another club is watching. I am of the opinion, rightly or wrongly, that a new bid has not as yet been made and may not be due to no other reason than how quick we were to decline the last bid, just a few hours. By now the board at Leicester must know that nothing short of a huge offer will get him. I think it possible that Leo has been told that if the magic number is offered he can go, but I doubt very much if he knows the number, hence no transfer request at this time. IMHO, if we get two new guys next week, then maybe only 3 short as Toko has already arrived. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 5

8:35pm Sun 13 Jul 14

mark by the sea says...

Cockwomble wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Who would agree that the following might be a good plan, and who wouldn't and why not?

The club has about 4M invested in Ulloa, transfer fees, wages and bounuses. Selling him for 8M would give a 4M profit.

Borrowing three players from the prem would cost around 1.5M in wages, one being a striker.
2M should be enough to buy two decent center backs.
500K is a good down payment on a new keeper, the club might have to stump up a further 250K to make full payment.
I think that we would still be short one striker, but selling Ulloa would not be a disaster if the money was well spent.
What are you on about, his wages are not part of a investment , the 2m was a purchase his wages a cost ! What ever people say about Gus , his players have produced. A plus rather than a minus looking at the whole picture of 2 play offs, 27000 average over two years..
yeah all poyets players produced.except harley.and agdestein.and battepiedi.baz.bergk

amp.sandaza.dobbie.h

olroyd.poke.etc.majo

r revisionism.cockwomb

le
How much did those cost? Think your find less than profit of Nooone ..
We made profit of 4 . 25 million on bridcutt ..
[quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Who would agree that the following might be a good plan, and who wouldn't and why not? The club has about 4M invested in Ulloa, transfer fees, wages and bounuses. Selling him for 8M would give a 4M profit. Borrowing three players from the prem would cost around 1.5M in wages, one being a striker. 2M should be enough to buy two decent center backs. 500K is a good down payment on a new keeper, the club might have to stump up a further 250K to make full payment. I think that we would still be short one striker, but selling Ulloa would not be a disaster if the money was well spent.[/p][/quote]What are you on about, his wages are not part of a investment , the 2m was a purchase his wages a cost ! What ever people say about Gus , his players have produced. A plus rather than a minus looking at the whole picture of 2 play offs, 27000 average over two years..[/p][/quote]yeah all poyets players produced.except harley.and agdestein.and battepiedi.baz.bergk amp.sandaza.dobbie.h olroyd.poke.etc.majo r revisionism.cockwomb le[/p][/quote]How much did those cost? Think your find less than profit of Nooone .. We made profit of 4 . 25 million on bridcutt .. mark by the sea
  • Score: 2

8:42pm Sun 13 Jul 14

tug509 says...

To baldly go wrote:
Neville wrote:
Vegas
In the current climate who is to say how much of that pot would be spent,if last season is anything to go by then not a lot unfortunately.
We all think there is big bucks in the kitty, £4m in sales from last season, this seasons transfer budget, new sponsors money and probably £7m+ from the sale of Ulloa! a total around £12m!
I think the club will use £5m of that to comply with this yrs FFP, if that is the case it puts us in a really good position going into the season already knowing we are compliant. Then use some of the remaining money to strengthen the squad, if come January if we are in the top ten and able to push for a play off spot, spend the rest at that point. Easy to say I know, but we don't need to spend all the money in one go, save some for a rainy day, who knows we might need it!
I agree with everything you say TBG ,but this exact scenario occurred last January ,after we sold Barnes and lost Crofty to injury ,and although we had money from our budget and from sales of LB ,AEA and the lad Barker ,and we were in the top ten ,the only new blood we brought in was Dale ,where as had we spent the balance on a couple of quality lads ,instead of just bringing in Rodriguez short term ,we may just have done quite a lot better than the damp squib we ended with . So until we do spend money in the way you have suggested I wont hold my breath !. UTA
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Vegas In the current climate who is to say how much of that pot would be spent,if last season is anything to go by then not a lot unfortunately.[/p][/quote]We all think there is big bucks in the kitty, £4m in sales from last season, this seasons transfer budget, new sponsors money and probably £7m+ from the sale of Ulloa! a total around £12m! I think the club will use £5m of that to comply with this yrs FFP, if that is the case it puts us in a really good position going into the season already knowing we are compliant. Then use some of the remaining money to strengthen the squad, if come January if we are in the top ten and able to push for a play off spot, spend the rest at that point. Easy to say I know, but we don't need to spend all the money in one go, save some for a rainy day, who knows we might need it![/p][/quote]I agree with everything you say TBG ,but this exact scenario occurred last January ,after we sold Barnes and lost Crofty to injury ,and although we had money from our budget and from sales of LB ,AEA and the lad Barker ,and we were in the top ten ,the only new blood we brought in was Dale ,where as had we spent the balance on a couple of quality lads ,instead of just bringing in Rodriguez short term ,we may just have done quite a lot better than the damp squib we ended with . So until we do spend money in the way you have suggested I wont hold my breath !. UTA tug509
  • Score: 4

8:43pm Sun 13 Jul 14

Conelli98 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Neville wrote:
Expecting some activity this week, advised by someone in hierarchy (absolutely true) that 2 signings to be announced,don't know what positions but expectedely GK and defender (Ward perhaps?).
Re Ulloa,in my opinion only I expect him to move this week and that will be tempered with announcement of 2 arrivals,but realistically that still leaves us 5 players short in my opinion.
Ready for loads of thumbs down as per usual,no prob.
Hi Neville.
Whilst it is possible that Ulloa will go, I would not count on it. The last reported offer was around 6M, the reported value the club has placed on Ulloa is 10M, the reported fee Leicester are considering for a different striker, (his name escapes me) is 6M.
I don't know how close Leicester would have to come to our valuation to get Leo, but is it possible that the board at Leicester have set a limit on spending? I have voiced my opinion that 8M might get the deal done, but just maybe 8M is not available.

For Leo to go early next week a bid would have to come in first and be accepted, they won't be able to keep it a secret, and I doubt Brighton would want to, just in case another club is watching.

I am of the opinion, rightly or wrongly, that a new bid has not as yet been made and may not be due to no other reason than how quick we were to decline the last bid, just a few hours. By now the board at Leicester must know that nothing short of a huge offer will get him. I think it possible that Leo has been told that if the magic number is offered he can go, but I doubt very much if he knows the number, hence no transfer request at this time.

IMHO, if we get two new guys next week, then maybe only 3 short as Toko has already arrived.
Charlie Austin
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Expecting some activity this week, advised by someone in hierarchy (absolutely true) that 2 signings to be announced,don't know what positions but expectedely GK and defender (Ward perhaps?). Re Ulloa,in my opinion only I expect him to move this week and that will be tempered with announcement of 2 arrivals,but realistically that still leaves us 5 players short in my opinion. Ready for loads of thumbs down as per usual,no prob.[/p][/quote]Hi Neville. Whilst it is possible that Ulloa will go, I would not count on it. The last reported offer was around 6M, the reported value the club has placed on Ulloa is 10M, the reported fee Leicester are considering for a different striker, (his name escapes me) is 6M. I don't know how close Leicester would have to come to our valuation to get Leo, but is it possible that the board at Leicester have set a limit on spending? I have voiced my opinion that 8M might get the deal done, but just maybe 8M is not available. For Leo to go early next week a bid would have to come in first and be accepted, they won't be able to keep it a secret, and I doubt Brighton would want to, just in case another club is watching. I am of the opinion, rightly or wrongly, that a new bid has not as yet been made and may not be due to no other reason than how quick we were to decline the last bid, just a few hours. By now the board at Leicester must know that nothing short of a huge offer will get him. I think it possible that Leo has been told that if the magic number is offered he can go, but I doubt very much if he knows the number, hence no transfer request at this time. IMHO, if we get two new guys next week, then maybe only 3 short as Toko has already arrived.[/p][/quote]Charlie Austin Conelli98
  • Score: 0

10:01pm Sun 13 Jul 14

Cockwomble says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Cockwomble wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Who would agree that the following might be a good plan, and who wouldn't and why not?

The club has about 4M invested in Ulloa, transfer fees, wages and bounuses. Selling him for 8M would give a 4M profit.

Borrowing three players from the prem would cost around 1.5M in wages, one being a striker.
2M should be enough to buy two decent center backs.
500K is a good down payment on a new keeper, the club might have to stump up a further 250K to make full payment.
I think that we would still be short one striker, but selling Ulloa would not be a disaster if the money was well spent.
What are you on about, his wages are not part of a investment , the 2m was a purchase his wages a cost ! What ever people say about Gus , his players have produced. A plus rather than a minus looking at the whole picture of 2 play offs, 27000 average over two years..
yeah all poyets players produced.except harley.and agdestein.and battepiedi.baz.bergk


amp.sandaza.dobbie.h


olroyd.poke.etc.majo


r revisionism.cockwomb


le
How much did those cost? Think your find less than profit of Nooone ..
We made profit of 4 . 25 million on bridcutt ..
dobbie wasnt cheap.and harley wasnt peanuts either.add those equals more than noone profit.but what does cost have to do with anything?you never mentioned cost.typical mbts changing the facts to suit his own mistakes.just admit it.talking of profit no we didnt make that much on bridcutt.as you love saying again and again what about wages.he didnt play for free you know.10k/week for nearly 4 years is 2m.cockwomble
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Who would agree that the following might be a good plan, and who wouldn't and why not? The club has about 4M invested in Ulloa, transfer fees, wages and bounuses. Selling him for 8M would give a 4M profit. Borrowing three players from the prem would cost around 1.5M in wages, one being a striker. 2M should be enough to buy two decent center backs. 500K is a good down payment on a new keeper, the club might have to stump up a further 250K to make full payment. I think that we would still be short one striker, but selling Ulloa would not be a disaster if the money was well spent.[/p][/quote]What are you on about, his wages are not part of a investment , the 2m was a purchase his wages a cost ! What ever people say about Gus , his players have produced. A plus rather than a minus looking at the whole picture of 2 play offs, 27000 average over two years..[/p][/quote]yeah all poyets players produced.except harley.and agdestein.and battepiedi.baz.bergk amp.sandaza.dobbie.h olroyd.poke.etc.majo r revisionism.cockwomb le[/p][/quote]How much did those cost? Think your find less than profit of Nooone .. We made profit of 4 . 25 million on bridcutt ..[/p][/quote]dobbie wasnt cheap.and harley wasnt peanuts either.add those equals more than noone profit.but what does cost have to do with anything?you never mentioned cost.typical mbts changing the facts to suit his own mistakes.just admit it.talking of profit no we didnt make that much on bridcutt.as you love saying again and again what about wages.he didnt play for free you know.10k/week for nearly 4 years is 2m.cockwomble Cockwomble
  • Score: 0

10:40pm Sun 13 Jul 14

mark by the sea says...

Cockwomble wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Cockwomble wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Who would agree that the following might be a good plan, and who wouldn't and why not?

The club has about 4M invested in Ulloa, transfer fees, wages and bounuses. Selling him for 8M would give a 4M profit.

Borrowing three players from the prem would cost around 1.5M in wages, one being a striker.
2M should be enough to buy two decent center backs.
500K is a good down payment on a new keeper, the club might have to stump up a further 250K to make full payment.
I think that we would still be short one striker, but selling Ulloa would not be a disaster if the money was well spent.
What are you on about, his wages are not part of a investment , the 2m was a purchase his wages a cost ! What ever people say about Gus , his players have produced. A plus rather than a minus looking at the whole picture of 2 play offs, 27000 average over two years..
yeah all poyets players produced.except harley.and agdestein.and battepiedi.baz.bergk



amp.sandaza.dobbie.h



olroyd.poke.etc.majo



r revisionism.cockwomb



le
How much did those cost? Think your find less than profit of Nooone ..
We made profit of 4 . 25 million on bridcutt ..
dobbie wasnt cheap.and harley wasnt peanuts either.add those equals more than noone profit.but what does cost have to do with anything?you never mentioned cost.typical mbts changing the facts to suit his own mistakes.just admit it.talking of profit no we didnt make that much on bridcutt.as you love saying again and again what about wages.he didnt play for free you know.10k/week for nearly 4 years is 2m.cockwomble
Yes but paying 10k a week for a quality player is what we should be about! Or is augustin on £25 a week ? Lol **** mongrel
[quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Who would agree that the following might be a good plan, and who wouldn't and why not? The club has about 4M invested in Ulloa, transfer fees, wages and bounuses. Selling him for 8M would give a 4M profit. Borrowing three players from the prem would cost around 1.5M in wages, one being a striker. 2M should be enough to buy two decent center backs. 500K is a good down payment on a new keeper, the club might have to stump up a further 250K to make full payment. I think that we would still be short one striker, but selling Ulloa would not be a disaster if the money was well spent.[/p][/quote]What are you on about, his wages are not part of a investment , the 2m was a purchase his wages a cost ! What ever people say about Gus , his players have produced. A plus rather than a minus looking at the whole picture of 2 play offs, 27000 average over two years..[/p][/quote]yeah all poyets players produced.except harley.and agdestein.and battepiedi.baz.bergk amp.sandaza.dobbie.h olroyd.poke.etc.majo r revisionism.cockwomb le[/p][/quote]How much did those cost? Think your find less than profit of Nooone .. We made profit of 4 . 25 million on bridcutt ..[/p][/quote]dobbie wasnt cheap.and harley wasnt peanuts either.add those equals more than noone profit.but what does cost have to do with anything?you never mentioned cost.typical mbts changing the facts to suit his own mistakes.just admit it.talking of profit no we didnt make that much on bridcutt.as you love saying again and again what about wages.he didnt play for free you know.10k/week for nearly 4 years is 2m.cockwomble[/p][/quote]Yes but paying 10k a week for a quality player is what we should be about! Or is augustin on £25 a week ? Lol **** mongrel mark by the sea
  • Score: -2

10:41pm Sun 13 Jul 14

mark by the sea says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Cockwomble wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Cockwomble wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Who would agree that the following might be a good plan, and who wouldn't and why not?

The club has about 4M invested in Ulloa, transfer fees, wages and bounuses. Selling him for 8M would give a 4M profit.

Borrowing three players from the prem would cost around 1.5M in wages, one being a striker.
2M should be enough to buy two decent center backs.
500K is a good down payment on a new keeper, the club might have to stump up a further 250K to make full payment.
I think that we would still be short one striker, but selling Ulloa would not be a disaster if the money was well spent.
What are you on about, his wages are not part of a investment , the 2m was a purchase his wages a cost ! What ever people say about Gus , his players have produced. A plus rather than a minus looking at the whole picture of 2 play offs, 27000 average over two years..
yeah all poyets players produced.except harley.and agdestein.and battepiedi.baz.bergk




amp.sandaza.dobbie.h




olroyd.poke.etc.majo




r revisionism.cockwomb




le
How much did those cost? Think your find less than profit of Nooone ..
We made profit of 4 . 25 million on bridcutt ..
dobbie wasnt cheap.and harley wasnt peanuts either.add those equals more than noone profit.but what does cost have to do with anything?you never mentioned cost.typical mbts changing the facts to suit his own mistakes.just admit it.talking of profit no we didnt make that much on bridcutt.as you love saying again and again what about wages.he didnt play for free you know.10k/week for nearly 4 years is 2m.cockwomble
Yes but paying 10k a week for a quality player is what we should be about! Or is augustin on £25 a week ? Lol **** mongrel
Sorry that's c0ck mongrel
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Who would agree that the following might be a good plan, and who wouldn't and why not? The club has about 4M invested in Ulloa, transfer fees, wages and bounuses. Selling him for 8M would give a 4M profit. Borrowing three players from the prem would cost around 1.5M in wages, one being a striker. 2M should be enough to buy two decent center backs. 500K is a good down payment on a new keeper, the club might have to stump up a further 250K to make full payment. I think that we would still be short one striker, but selling Ulloa would not be a disaster if the money was well spent.[/p][/quote]What are you on about, his wages are not part of a investment , the 2m was a purchase his wages a cost ! What ever people say about Gus , his players have produced. A plus rather than a minus looking at the whole picture of 2 play offs, 27000 average over two years..[/p][/quote]yeah all poyets players produced.except harley.and agdestein.and battepiedi.baz.bergk amp.sandaza.dobbie.h olroyd.poke.etc.majo r revisionism.cockwomb le[/p][/quote]How much did those cost? Think your find less than profit of Nooone .. We made profit of 4 . 25 million on bridcutt ..[/p][/quote]dobbie wasnt cheap.and harley wasnt peanuts either.add those equals more than noone profit.but what does cost have to do with anything?you never mentioned cost.typical mbts changing the facts to suit his own mistakes.just admit it.talking of profit no we didnt make that much on bridcutt.as you love saying again and again what about wages.he didnt play for free you know.10k/week for nearly 4 years is 2m.cockwomble[/p][/quote]Yes but paying 10k a week for a quality player is what we should be about! Or is augustin on £25 a week ? Lol **** mongrel[/p][/quote]Sorry that's c0ck mongrel mark by the sea
  • Score: -4

10:50pm Sun 13 Jul 14

Cockwomble says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Cockwomble wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Cockwomble wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Who would agree that the following might be a good plan, and who wouldn't and why not?

The club has about 4M invested in Ulloa, transfer fees, wages and bounuses. Selling him for 8M would give a 4M profit.

Borrowing three players from the prem would cost around 1.5M in wages, one being a striker.
2M should be enough to buy two decent center backs.
500K is a good down payment on a new keeper, the club might have to stump up a further 250K to make full payment.
I think that we would still be short one striker, but selling Ulloa would not be a disaster if the money was well spent.
What are you on about, his wages are not part of a investment , the 2m was a purchase his wages a cost ! What ever people say about Gus , his players have produced. A plus rather than a minus looking at the whole picture of 2 play offs, 27000 average over two years..
yeah all poyets players produced.except harley.and agdestein.and battepiedi.baz.bergk




amp.sandaza.dobbie.h




olroyd.poke.etc.majo




r revisionism.cockwomb




le
How much did those cost? Think your find less than profit of Nooone ..
We made profit of 4 . 25 million on bridcutt ..
dobbie wasnt cheap.and harley wasnt peanuts either.add those equals more than noone profit.but what does cost have to do with anything?you never mentioned cost.typical mbts changing the facts to suit his own mistakes.just admit it.talking of profit no we didnt make that much on bridcutt.as you love saying again and again what about wages.he didnt play for free you know.10k/week for nearly 4 years is 2m.cockwomble
Yes but paying 10k a week for a quality player is what we should be about! Or is augustin on £25 a week ? Lol **** mongrel
so are you now agreeing that bridcutt isnt as much profit as you claimed?as for agustien what has he got to do with anything?you always drag random people into things.talk sense.cockwomble
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Who would agree that the following might be a good plan, and who wouldn't and why not? The club has about 4M invested in Ulloa, transfer fees, wages and bounuses. Selling him for 8M would give a 4M profit. Borrowing three players from the prem would cost around 1.5M in wages, one being a striker. 2M should be enough to buy two decent center backs. 500K is a good down payment on a new keeper, the club might have to stump up a further 250K to make full payment. I think that we would still be short one striker, but selling Ulloa would not be a disaster if the money was well spent.[/p][/quote]What are you on about, his wages are not part of a investment , the 2m was a purchase his wages a cost ! What ever people say about Gus , his players have produced. A plus rather than a minus looking at the whole picture of 2 play offs, 27000 average over two years..[/p][/quote]yeah all poyets players produced.except harley.and agdestein.and battepiedi.baz.bergk amp.sandaza.dobbie.h olroyd.poke.etc.majo r revisionism.cockwomb le[/p][/quote]How much did those cost? Think your find less than profit of Nooone .. We made profit of 4 . 25 million on bridcutt ..[/p][/quote]dobbie wasnt cheap.and harley wasnt peanuts either.add those equals more than noone profit.but what does cost have to do with anything?you never mentioned cost.typical mbts changing the facts to suit his own mistakes.just admit it.talking of profit no we didnt make that much on bridcutt.as you love saying again and again what about wages.he didnt play for free you know.10k/week for nearly 4 years is 2m.cockwomble[/p][/quote]Yes but paying 10k a week for a quality player is what we should be about! Or is augustin on £25 a week ? Lol **** mongrel[/p][/quote]so are you now agreeing that bridcutt isnt as much profit as you claimed?as for agustien what has he got to do with anything?you always drag random people into things.talk sense.cockwomble Cockwomble
  • Score: -1

11:08pm Sun 13 Jul 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

ringtone wrote:
Neville wrote:
Vegas
In the current climate who is to say how much of that pot would be spent,if last season is anything to go by then not a lot unfortunately.
If we get 7.5 million, it will be the .5
You can get a lot for 1/2 a million.
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Vegas In the current climate who is to say how much of that pot would be spent,if last season is anything to go by then not a lot unfortunately.[/p][/quote]If we get 7.5 million, it will be the .5[/p][/quote]You can get a lot for 1/2 a million. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

11:45pm Sun 13 Jul 14

pjwilk says...

We are signing 20 odd yr old players for out Dev Squad,yet Germany had a 22yr old playing in the World Cup and winning it.
We are signing 20 odd yr old players for out Dev Squad,yet Germany had a 22yr old playing in the World Cup and winning it. pjwilk
  • Score: -4

9:33am Mon 14 Jul 14

pte says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Who would agree that the following might be a good plan, and who wouldn't and why not?

The club has about 4M invested in Ulloa, transfer fees, wages and bounuses. Selling him for 8M would give a 4M profit.

Borrowing three players from the prem would cost around 1.5M in wages, one being a striker.
2M should be enough to buy two decent center backs.
500K is a good down payment on a new keeper, the club might have to stump up a further 250K to make full payment.
I think that we would still be short one striker, but selling Ulloa would not be a disaster if the money was well spent.
What are you on about, his wages are not part of a investment , the 2m was a purchase his wages a cost ! What ever people say about Gus , his players have produced. A plus rather than a minus looking at the whole picture of 2 play offs, 27000 average over two years..
I term, 'investment,' to be all the moneies paid out, be it in transfer fees, or wages. If you prefer I will use the term, 'total cost.' The club would recoup the, 'total cost,' of having Ulloa on the books for the last 18 months or so.

Why so nit picky when it was clear what I was proposing, and why bring Gus into it when my comment had zip to do with him. I am talking of new spending and that has nothing to do with Poyet.
Mark is correct in every respect that you cannot include wages as part of total investment and that's not being over technical.

Wages are a running cost and though you may pay a player x amount that is canceled out by the income generated ie bums on seats and the transfer fee (the real amount invested) is covered by the sell on fee. The wages are not covered by the sell on fee but the income it produces (a packed stadium).

It's a bit like you buying a car for £500 then over the years paying 5000k on petrol and including that as part of your investment, then when you sell the car for £50 you say you lost £5,499! Sorry the cars the car and the petrol is something else. Same with transfer fees and wages- they are treated differently which may be why people have difficulty in the club's approach to finance
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Who would agree that the following might be a good plan, and who wouldn't and why not? The club has about 4M invested in Ulloa, transfer fees, wages and bounuses. Selling him for 8M would give a 4M profit. Borrowing three players from the prem would cost around 1.5M in wages, one being a striker. 2M should be enough to buy two decent center backs. 500K is a good down payment on a new keeper, the club might have to stump up a further 250K to make full payment. I think that we would still be short one striker, but selling Ulloa would not be a disaster if the money was well spent.[/p][/quote]What are you on about, his wages are not part of a investment , the 2m was a purchase his wages a cost ! What ever people say about Gus , his players have produced. A plus rather than a minus looking at the whole picture of 2 play offs, 27000 average over two years..[/p][/quote]I term, 'investment,' to be all the moneies paid out, be it in transfer fees, or wages. If you prefer I will use the term, 'total cost.' The club would recoup the, 'total cost,' of having Ulloa on the books for the last 18 months or so. Why so nit picky when it was clear what I was proposing, and why bring Gus into it when my comment had zip to do with him. I am talking of new spending and that has nothing to do with Poyet.[/p][/quote]Mark is correct in every respect that you cannot include wages as part of total investment and that's not being over technical. Wages are a running cost and though you may pay a player x amount that is canceled out by the income generated ie bums on seats and the transfer fee (the real amount invested) is covered by the sell on fee. The wages are not covered by the sell on fee but the income it produces (a packed stadium). It's a bit like you buying a car for £500 then over the years paying 5000k on petrol and including that as part of your investment, then when you sell the car for £50 you say you lost £5,499! Sorry the cars the car and the petrol is something else. Same with transfer fees and wages- they are treated differently which may be why people have difficulty in the club's approach to finance pte
  • Score: 3

9:36am Mon 14 Jul 14

Guernsey gull says...

On another note wot happened to Thomas K., such a good keeper for us.
If he hasn't found a club, could we not approach him about return, with Walton as his number two.
On another note wot happened to Thomas K., such a good keeper for us. If he hasn't found a club, could we not approach him about return, with Walton as his number two. Guernsey gull
  • Score: 4

9:55am Mon 14 Jul 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

pte wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Who would agree that the following might be a good plan, and who wouldn't and why not?

The club has about 4M invested in Ulloa, transfer fees, wages and bounuses. Selling him for 8M would give a 4M profit.

Borrowing three players from the prem would cost around 1.5M in wages, one being a striker.
2M should be enough to buy two decent center backs.
500K is a good down payment on a new keeper, the club might have to stump up a further 250K to make full payment.
I think that we would still be short one striker, but selling Ulloa would not be a disaster if the money was well spent.
What are you on about, his wages are not part of a investment , the 2m was a purchase his wages a cost ! What ever people say about Gus , his players have produced. A plus rather than a minus looking at the whole picture of 2 play offs, 27000 average over two years..
I term, 'investment,' to be all the moneies paid out, be it in transfer fees, or wages. If you prefer I will use the term, 'total cost.' The club would recoup the, 'total cost,' of having Ulloa on the books for the last 18 months or so.

Why so nit picky when it was clear what I was proposing, and why bring Gus into it when my comment had zip to do with him. I am talking of new spending and that has nothing to do with Poyet.
Mark is correct in every respect that you cannot include wages as part of total investment and that's not being over technical.

Wages are a running cost and though you may pay a player x amount that is canceled out by the income generated ie bums on seats and the transfer fee (the real amount invested) is covered by the sell on fee. The wages are not covered by the sell on fee but the income it produces (a packed stadium).

It's a bit like you buying a car for £500 then over the years paying 5000k on petrol and including that as part of your investment, then when you sell the car for £50 you say you lost £5,499! Sorry the cars the car and the petrol is something else. Same with transfer fees and wages- they are treated differently which may be why people have difficulty in the club's approach to finance
It's ironic then that MBTS continually bangs on about how much certain players have cost the club over their contracts. At times the argument is changed to suit who he's arguing with...
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Who would agree that the following might be a good plan, and who wouldn't and why not? The club has about 4M invested in Ulloa, transfer fees, wages and bounuses. Selling him for 8M would give a 4M profit. Borrowing three players from the prem would cost around 1.5M in wages, one being a striker. 2M should be enough to buy two decent center backs. 500K is a good down payment on a new keeper, the club might have to stump up a further 250K to make full payment. I think that we would still be short one striker, but selling Ulloa would not be a disaster if the money was well spent.[/p][/quote]What are you on about, his wages are not part of a investment , the 2m was a purchase his wages a cost ! What ever people say about Gus , his players have produced. A plus rather than a minus looking at the whole picture of 2 play offs, 27000 average over two years..[/p][/quote]I term, 'investment,' to be all the moneies paid out, be it in transfer fees, or wages. If you prefer I will use the term, 'total cost.' The club would recoup the, 'total cost,' of having Ulloa on the books for the last 18 months or so. Why so nit picky when it was clear what I was proposing, and why bring Gus into it when my comment had zip to do with him. I am talking of new spending and that has nothing to do with Poyet.[/p][/quote]Mark is correct in every respect that you cannot include wages as part of total investment and that's not being over technical. Wages are a running cost and though you may pay a player x amount that is canceled out by the income generated ie bums on seats and the transfer fee (the real amount invested) is covered by the sell on fee. The wages are not covered by the sell on fee but the income it produces (a packed stadium). It's a bit like you buying a car for £500 then over the years paying 5000k on petrol and including that as part of your investment, then when you sell the car for £50 you say you lost £5,499! Sorry the cars the car and the petrol is something else. Same with transfer fees and wages- they are treated differently which may be why people have difficulty in the club's approach to finance[/p][/quote]It's ironic then that MBTS continually bangs on about how much certain players have cost the club over their contracts. At times the argument is changed to suit who he's arguing with... Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: -1

10:31am Mon 14 Jul 14

pte says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
pte wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Who would agree that the following might be a good plan, and who wouldn't and why not?

The club has about 4M invested in Ulloa, transfer fees, wages and bounuses. Selling him for 8M would give a 4M profit.

Borrowing three players from the prem would cost around 1.5M in wages, one being a striker.
2M should be enough to buy two decent center backs.
500K is a good down payment on a new keeper, the club might have to stump up a further 250K to make full payment.
I think that we would still be short one striker, but selling Ulloa would not be a disaster if the money was well spent.
What are you on about, his wages are not part of a investment , the 2m was a purchase his wages a cost ! What ever people say about Gus , his players have produced. A plus rather than a minus looking at the whole picture of 2 play offs, 27000 average over two years..
I term, 'investment,' to be all the moneies paid out, be it in transfer fees, or wages. If you prefer I will use the term, 'total cost.' The club would recoup the, 'total cost,' of having Ulloa on the books for the last 18 months or so.

Why so nit picky when it was clear what I was proposing, and why bring Gus into it when my comment had zip to do with him. I am talking of new spending and that has nothing to do with Poyet.
Mark is correct in every respect that you cannot include wages as part of total investment and that's not being over technical.

Wages are a running cost and though you may pay a player x amount that is canceled out by the income generated ie bums on seats and the transfer fee (the real amount invested) is covered by the sell on fee. The wages are not covered by the sell on fee but the income it produces (a packed stadium).

It's a bit like you buying a car for £500 then over the years paying 5000k on petrol and including that as part of your investment, then when you sell the car for £50 you say you lost £5,499! Sorry the cars the car and the petrol is something else. Same with transfer fees and wages- they are treated differently which may be why people have difficulty in the club's approach to finance
It's ironic then that MBTS continually bangs on about how much certain players have cost the club over their contracts. At times the argument is changed to suit who he's arguing with...
Maybe but in finance terms on this issue Mark is correct. Wages are an operating cost and are covered by the income they generate (gate receipts) they are not covered by the transfer fee.

The people that don't understand this point remind me of the pie joke (what is the main ingredient of pie, answer: pie)

I think he may also be right on the point regarding Leo going for less than 7.5m and that the real sticking point is the transfer request. Remember when they sacked Gus they didn't want to pay compo and I think they don't want to pay a want away player 750k either.

I don't know what the price will be but in financial terms even if they get 4m that means they will get their money back plus over a million which in money terms is OK as it keeps the books in balance. Wages were also paid but they produced bums on seats

Mark is also correct in that the club could afford to pay more in wages but the point is are those players worth it. I think we could have paid Grabban more but a footballing rather than a financial judgement was made that he just wasn't worth it. Maybe the club will be proved right or maybe wrong. We could pay Ward 13k but if we can get him for 10k on loan why pay extra? Wolves don't want to play him so that means 650k wages if they don't sell or loan him out and it seems no one is willing to pay 13k

Financially it does look like the club is well run but footballing wise is another matter. Mark and a few others want the club to spend more of the gate receipts to get promotion ASAP when it might be wise to be in less of a hurry. If instead of buying say 3 players the club bloods 3 youngsters like they did last season, not only do they save 1.5m on wages plus transfer fees but also by developing those players they might create sell able assets. If you do a Chelsea and keep buying players you never develop what you already have coming through
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Who would agree that the following might be a good plan, and who wouldn't and why not? The club has about 4M invested in Ulloa, transfer fees, wages and bounuses. Selling him for 8M would give a 4M profit. Borrowing three players from the prem would cost around 1.5M in wages, one being a striker. 2M should be enough to buy two decent center backs. 500K is a good down payment on a new keeper, the club might have to stump up a further 250K to make full payment. I think that we would still be short one striker, but selling Ulloa would not be a disaster if the money was well spent.[/p][/quote]What are you on about, his wages are not part of a investment , the 2m was a purchase his wages a cost ! What ever people say about Gus , his players have produced. A plus rather than a minus looking at the whole picture of 2 play offs, 27000 average over two years..[/p][/quote]I term, 'investment,' to be all the moneies paid out, be it in transfer fees, or wages. If you prefer I will use the term, 'total cost.' The club would recoup the, 'total cost,' of having Ulloa on the books for the last 18 months or so. Why so nit picky when it was clear what I was proposing, and why bring Gus into it when my comment had zip to do with him. I am talking of new spending and that has nothing to do with Poyet.[/p][/quote]Mark is correct in every respect that you cannot include wages as part of total investment and that's not being over technical. Wages are a running cost and though you may pay a player x amount that is canceled out by the income generated ie bums on seats and the transfer fee (the real amount invested) is covered by the sell on fee. The wages are not covered by the sell on fee but the income it produces (a packed stadium). It's a bit like you buying a car for £500 then over the years paying 5000k on petrol and including that as part of your investment, then when you sell the car for £50 you say you lost £5,499! Sorry the cars the car and the petrol is something else. Same with transfer fees and wages- they are treated differently which may be why people have difficulty in the club's approach to finance[/p][/quote]It's ironic then that MBTS continually bangs on about how much certain players have cost the club over their contracts. At times the argument is changed to suit who he's arguing with...[/p][/quote]Maybe but in finance terms on this issue Mark is correct. Wages are an operating cost and are covered by the income they generate (gate receipts) they are not covered by the transfer fee. The people that don't understand this point remind me of the pie joke (what is the main ingredient of pie, answer: pie) I think he may also be right on the point regarding Leo going for less than 7.5m and that the real sticking point is the transfer request. Remember when they sacked Gus they didn't want to pay compo and I think they don't want to pay a want away player 750k either. I don't know what the price will be but in financial terms even if they get 4m that means they will get their money back plus over a million which in money terms is OK as it keeps the books in balance. Wages were also paid but they produced bums on seats Mark is also correct in that the club could afford to pay more in wages but the point is are those players worth it. I think we could have paid Grabban more but a footballing rather than a financial judgement was made that he just wasn't worth it. Maybe the club will be proved right or maybe wrong. We could pay Ward 13k but if we can get him for 10k on loan why pay extra? Wolves don't want to play him so that means 650k wages if they don't sell or loan him out and it seems no one is willing to pay 13k Financially it does look like the club is well run but footballing wise is another matter. Mark and a few others want the club to spend more of the gate receipts to get promotion ASAP when it might be wise to be in less of a hurry. If instead of buying say 3 players the club bloods 3 youngsters like they did last season, not only do they save 1.5m on wages plus transfer fees but also by developing those players they might create sell able assets. If you do a Chelsea and keep buying players you never develop what you already have coming through pte
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