Albion ace Ulloa on verge of Leicester move

Leo Ulloa

Leo Ulloa

First published in Sport Exclusive by , Chief sports reporter

Albion marksman Leo Ulloa is on the brink of completing a move to Leicester for a fee in excess of £7 million.

Ulloa missed the Seagulls' 3-1 friendly defeat by Real Betis in Spain tonight.

He is expected to fly to Austria, where Leicester are based for a training camp, to discuss personal terms with the Premier League newcomers after the clubs finally thrashed out an agreement for his sale.

Leicester had a fourth offer of £6.25 million for Ulloa rejected last week.

Their fifth bid has been sanctioned by Albion chairman Tony Bloom and Ulloa is now on the brink of fulfilling his dream to play in the top flight.

The fee is a record for both clubs. It dwarfs the sum of around £3 million received by Albion for midfielder Liam Bridcutt's move to Sunderland in January and smashes the £5 million Leicester paid for former Albion loan forward Ade Akinbiyi 14 years ago.

Ulloa has scored 26 goals in 58 appearances for Albion since arriving on the South Coast from Spanish club Almeria for around £2 million during the January 2013 transfer window.

The target man, 28 later this month, still has three years remaining on his contract at the Amex but has become increasingly frustrated by what he regards as a lack of investment in the squad.

Ulloa will team up with former Albion centre-half Matt Upson in the East Midlands. Upson rejected a new one-year contract with the Seagulls to join Leicester in May.

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9:45pm Thu 17 Jul 14

jarmonesque says...

Bugger
Bugger jarmonesque
  • Score: 29

9:45pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Beale32 says...

That must be a bad ankle injury!!! As long as we put the money to good use. Ofcourse he could always turn them down after discussions.
That must be a bad ankle injury!!! As long as we put the money to good use. Ofcourse he could always turn them down after discussions. Beale32
  • Score: 11

9:47pm Thu 17 Jul 14

stonegold says...

Thank god for that - the saga was getting boring. £7m+ for a striker not yet proven at Premiership level is a great deal for us (provided that all of the fee is re-invested in the squad).
Thank god for that - the saga was getting boring. £7m+ for a striker not yet proven at Premiership level is a great deal for us (provided that all of the fee is re-invested in the squad). stonegold
  • Score: 23

9:49pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Towner83 says...

Thanks for some great memories in such a short space of time Leo!!
Thanks for some great memories in such a short space of time Leo!! Towner83
  • Score: 44

9:49pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Bostik says...

Let him go, let him go! His goals never bothered me anyway.
Let him go, let him go! His goals never bothered me anyway. Bostik
  • Score: -35

9:51pm Thu 17 Jul 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

Is anyone still in doubt as to which direction we are heading. When we get £7 Million for Leo and buy a journeyman like O'Grady we are seriously out of tune with the stated ambition to reach the PL. 'Beware he of many clubs' is an old adage in the pro game. Very concerned that maybe Tony Bloom has blown everything in facilities - which I love to look at but are useless without a team to fill the stadium.

Also concerned as to the affect Leo's departure has on the rest of the team. Buckley, for one, has an air of resignation whenever he appears these days and Sami's not as bright and chirpy as he was on day one!

We REALLY need a lift before the season begins so that we start with some hope!
Is anyone still in doubt as to which direction we are heading. When we get £7 Million for Leo and buy a journeyman like O'Grady we are seriously out of tune with the stated ambition to reach the PL. 'Beware he of many clubs' is an old adage in the pro game. Very concerned that maybe Tony Bloom has blown everything in facilities - which I love to look at but are useless without a team to fill the stadium. Also concerned as to the affect Leo's departure has on the rest of the team. Buckley, for one, has an air of resignation whenever he appears these days and Sami's not as bright and chirpy as he was on day one! We REALLY need a lift before the season begins so that we start with some hope! WisdomSpeaks
  • Score: 26

9:57pm Thu 17 Jul 14

heshootshescores says...

Ulloa out. O'Grady in. That's the best they could do after knowing for weeks that Ulloa wanted out? This club has no ambition. More concerned with FFP than getting in the Premier League. Tinpot.
Ulloa out. O'Grady in. That's the best they could do after knowing for weeks that Ulloa wanted out? This club has no ambition. More concerned with FFP than getting in the Premier League. Tinpot. heshootshescores
  • Score: -10

9:59pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Dingbat99 says...

WisdomSpeaks wrote:
Is anyone still in doubt as to which direction we are heading. When we get £7 Million for Leo and buy a journeyman like O'Grady we are seriously out of tune with the stated ambition to reach the PL. 'Beware he of many clubs' is an old adage in the pro game. Very concerned that maybe Tony Bloom has blown everything in facilities - which I love to look at but are useless without a team to fill the stadium.

Also concerned as to the affect Leo's departure has on the rest of the team. Buckley, for one, has an air of resignation whenever he appears these days and Sami's not as bright and chirpy as he was on day one!

We REALLY need a lift before the season begins so that we start with some hope!
If you think that O'Grady is a replacement for Ulloa, then football isn't the sport for you.
He's a replacement for Hoskins or Barnes.
[quote][p][bold]WisdomSpeaks[/bold] wrote: Is anyone still in doubt as to which direction we are heading. When we get £7 Million for Leo and buy a journeyman like O'Grady we are seriously out of tune with the stated ambition to reach the PL. 'Beware he of many clubs' is an old adage in the pro game. Very concerned that maybe Tony Bloom has blown everything in facilities - which I love to look at but are useless without a team to fill the stadium. Also concerned as to the affect Leo's departure has on the rest of the team. Buckley, for one, has an air of resignation whenever he appears these days and Sami's not as bright and chirpy as he was on day one! We REALLY need a lift before the season begins so that we start with some hope![/p][/quote]If you think that O'Grady is a replacement for Ulloa, then football isn't the sport for you. He's a replacement for Hoskins or Barnes. Dingbat99
  • Score: 35

10:03pm Thu 17 Jul 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

Dingbat99 wrote:
WisdomSpeaks wrote:
Is anyone still in doubt as to which direction we are heading. When we get £7 Million for Leo and buy a journeyman like O'Grady we are seriously out of tune with the stated ambition to reach the PL. 'Beware he of many clubs' is an old adage in the pro game. Very concerned that maybe Tony Bloom has blown everything in facilities - which I love to look at but are useless without a team to fill the stadium.

Also concerned as to the affect Leo's departure has on the rest of the team. Buckley, for one, has an air of resignation whenever he appears these days and Sami's not as bright and chirpy as he was on day one!

We REALLY need a lift before the season begins so that we start with some hope!
If you think that O'Grady is a replacement for Ulloa, then football isn't the sport for you.
He's a replacement for Hoskins or Barnes.
And having watched him at two clubs in my opinion he's not a match for either of the players you mentioned. I'm not interested in who he is or isn't replacing.......simp
ly -is he quality? I'd rather see a young hungry player.
[quote][p][bold]Dingbat99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WisdomSpeaks[/bold] wrote: Is anyone still in doubt as to which direction we are heading. When we get £7 Million for Leo and buy a journeyman like O'Grady we are seriously out of tune with the stated ambition to reach the PL. 'Beware he of many clubs' is an old adage in the pro game. Very concerned that maybe Tony Bloom has blown everything in facilities - which I love to look at but are useless without a team to fill the stadium. Also concerned as to the affect Leo's departure has on the rest of the team. Buckley, for one, has an air of resignation whenever he appears these days and Sami's not as bright and chirpy as he was on day one! We REALLY need a lift before the season begins so that we start with some hope![/p][/quote]If you think that O'Grady is a replacement for Ulloa, then football isn't the sport for you. He's a replacement for Hoskins or Barnes.[/p][/quote]And having watched him at two clubs in my opinion he's not a match for either of the players you mentioned. I'm not interested in who he is or isn't replacing.......simp ly -is he quality? I'd rather see a young hungry player. WisdomSpeaks
  • Score: 1

10:06pm Thu 17 Jul 14

driverchris53 says...

i am hoping O'Grady is just an addition to the squad we needed another striker we have money now to buy someone good he is a good championship striker who has done well at a small club
i am hoping O'Grady is just an addition to the squad we needed another striker we have money now to buy someone good he is a good championship striker who has done well at a small club driverchris53
  • Score: 3

10:11pm Thu 17 Jul 14

watermeter says...

good business . don't bother whinging until the season starts , then if we have no replacement whinge away to your hearts content ! ffs there is obviously stuff going on behind the scenes, just let the powers that be get on with it . We aint meant to know until it happens . so be it
good business . don't bother whinging until the season starts , then if we have no replacement whinge away to your hearts content ! ffs there is obviously stuff going on behind the scenes, just let the powers that be get on with it . We aint meant to know until it happens . so be it watermeter
  • Score: 16

10:11pm Thu 17 Jul 14

lighteninglee says...

Wonder how much of the 7 plus million Sami Will get to buy a couple of decent players. Thanks for everything leo you Will be missed. By the way leicester is a **** hole. Good crisps thou....
Wonder how much of the 7 plus million Sami Will get to buy a couple of decent players. Thanks for everything leo you Will be missed. By the way leicester is a **** hole. Good crisps thou.... lighteninglee
  • Score: 5

10:13pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Mark Dixon says...

Ok he's as good as gone now but what worries me is how much of the fee's will be used to bring new players in?
Ok he's as good as gone now but what worries me is how much of the fee's will be used to bring new players in? Mark Dixon
  • Score: 1

10:14pm Thu 17 Jul 14

SMF20 says...

I've wanted this saga over for a while now but actually seeing it happen has left me gutted... Really sad to see him go.
I wish Leo all the best and genuinely feel that he will flourish in the Premiership due to being surrounded by pace and power. Good luck lad.

On a negative note (I really don't like this) that is 3 fantastic people our club have now lost due to lack of ambition... Gus, Oscar and now Leo. Can they all be wrong? Can anyone genuinely say that we are still moving in the right direction? I wonder if it was the reason we lost Liam too?

What I find strangest of all is that we will spend a fortune on infrastructure and stadia, aswell as a training ground and a future hotel but we won't invest in our team.
First and foremost we are a Football Team.... A team which attracts 30,000 people to watch them play every week... Will this continue if we continue to go back? I don't know of course but I'm guessing "Yes". We had great attendances last season but they were definitely down on Gus's last season. I truly hope that we somehow buck this trend.

I have always and will always support BHAFC and I know many are the same. 30,000 loyal fans though? I think not.

We have made so much progess in the last few seasons. Let's please not continue to go backwards now.

On a final note. Sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate. Has there ever been a better example of this than Leo? Sometimes that 2 million spent is worth it.

Uta
I've wanted this saga over for a while now but actually seeing it happen has left me gutted... Really sad to see him go. I wish Leo all the best and genuinely feel that he will flourish in the Premiership due to being surrounded by pace and power. Good luck lad. On a negative note (I really don't like this) that is 3 fantastic people our club have now lost due to lack of ambition... Gus, Oscar and now Leo. Can they all be wrong? Can anyone genuinely say that we are still moving in the right direction? I wonder if it was the reason we lost Liam too? What I find strangest of all is that we will spend a fortune on infrastructure and stadia, aswell as a training ground and a future hotel but we won't invest in our team. First and foremost we are a Football Team.... A team which attracts 30,000 people to watch them play every week... Will this continue if we continue to go back? I don't know of course but I'm guessing "Yes". We had great attendances last season but they were definitely down on Gus's last season. I truly hope that we somehow buck this trend. I have always and will always support BHAFC and I know many are the same. 30,000 loyal fans though? I think not. We have made so much progess in the last few seasons. Let's please not continue to go backwards now. On a final note. Sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate. Has there ever been a better example of this than Leo? Sometimes that 2 million spent is worth it. Uta SMF20
  • Score: 24

10:14pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Matthews1986 says...

Sorry have we gone mad how long have we been waiting for a player like him and then we sell him!! So is that going to happen every time we get a new class player? Are we just going to sell them so some one else can do well. Stupid!!! We have got a lot of work to do.
Sorry have we gone mad how long have we been waiting for a player like him and then we sell him!! So is that going to happen every time we get a new class player? Are we just going to sell them so some one else can do well. Stupid!!! We have got a lot of work to do. Matthews1986
  • Score: 4

10:24pm Thu 17 Jul 14

SecondReserve says...

Over the past few seasons we have sold many of our best players - Crofts, Bennett, Murray, Noone, Bridcutt - and not one, not one, of them has established himself as a regular premiership starter for more than a handful of games. I very much doubt whether Ulloa will either - or Barnes for that matter. £7m plus is a fantastic deal for us for Ulloa - Lambert was sold for about £4m and he is a hell of a lot better than Ulloa will ever be.
Over the past few seasons we have sold many of our best players - Crofts, Bennett, Murray, Noone, Bridcutt - and not one, not one, of them has established himself as a regular premiership starter for more than a handful of games. I very much doubt whether Ulloa will either - or Barnes for that matter. £7m plus is a fantastic deal for us for Ulloa - Lambert was sold for about £4m and he is a hell of a lot better than Ulloa will ever be. SecondReserve
  • Score: 16

10:27pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Quiterie says...

Naylor states that Ulloa has become frustrated at a lack of investment in the squad as if it's a fact, but doesn't provide any source or back -up for this. Poor journalism.

Regarding Ulloa, Leicester have overspent if it's really £7m. He's good, but not that good. Unproven at premier league level.

Bloom will reinvest most, if not all of the fee in the squad. And there's no point in keeping an unsettled player.

At least it's all sorted now, we can move on, and focus on strengthening the squad.
Naylor states that Ulloa has become frustrated at a lack of investment in the squad as if it's a fact, but doesn't provide any source or back -up for this. Poor journalism. Regarding Ulloa, Leicester have overspent if it's really £7m. He's good, but not that good. Unproven at premier league level. Bloom will reinvest most, if not all of the fee in the squad. And there's no point in keeping an unsettled player. At least it's all sorted now, we can move on, and focus on strengthening the squad. Quiterie
  • Score: 11

10:30pm Thu 17 Jul 14

WiseOldSeagull says...

I understand that this is a blow to many fans but we must try to change our culture of expectation. No one at the club will ever spell it out publicly but we can draw our own conclusions from what is happening at the Albion.

Our future is youth development and that will take time. The management are hoping that we will remain competitive whilst investing in youth coaching. We are a club for the future not for today. Just because we have a 30,000 stadium and a newly built training facility does not mean that we will be promoted next year. What it means is that we will be able to attract youth prospects from all over the country. Sustainability could some up our ambitions.

Read between the lines. Listen to what you see not what club ambasidors say.
I understand that this is a blow to many fans but we must try to change our culture of expectation. No one at the club will ever spell it out publicly but we can draw our own conclusions from what is happening at the Albion. Our future is youth development and that will take time. The management are hoping that we will remain competitive whilst investing in youth coaching. We are a club for the future not for today. Just because we have a 30,000 stadium and a newly built training facility does not mean that we will be promoted next year. What it means is that we will be able to attract youth prospects from all over the country. Sustainability could some up our ambitions. Read between the lines. Listen to what you see not what club ambasidors say. WiseOldSeagull
  • Score: 11

10:37pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Clean Sheet says...

SecondReserve wrote:
Over the past few seasons we have sold many of our best players - Crofts, Bennett, Murray, Noone, Bridcutt - and not one, not one, of them has established himself as a regular premiership starter for more than a handful of games. I very much doubt whether Ulloa will either - or Barnes for that matter. £7m plus is a fantastic deal for us for Ulloa - Lambert was sold for about £4m and he is a hell of a lot better than Ulloa will ever be.
Good post, fully agree, even as far back as Virgo and Cullip. Only Bobby Z has really made it at the top, and it took him 3 or 4 seasons to do it as well. Ulloa has been great for Brighton, but if he decided he wanted to move on, then the club only had 1 option, to get as much money as possible. Job done. Now let's move on please. Only the fans are a permanent fixture, players and Managers are transient.
[quote][p][bold]SecondReserve[/bold] wrote: Over the past few seasons we have sold many of our best players - Crofts, Bennett, Murray, Noone, Bridcutt - and not one, not one, of them has established himself as a regular premiership starter for more than a handful of games. I very much doubt whether Ulloa will either - or Barnes for that matter. £7m plus is a fantastic deal for us for Ulloa - Lambert was sold for about £4m and he is a hell of a lot better than Ulloa will ever be.[/p][/quote]Good post, fully agree, even as far back as Virgo and Cullip. Only Bobby Z has really made it at the top, and it took him 3 or 4 seasons to do it as well. Ulloa has been great for Brighton, but if he decided he wanted to move on, then the club only had 1 option, to get as much money as possible. Job done. Now let's move on please. Only the fans are a permanent fixture, players and Managers are transient. Clean Sheet
  • Score: 15

10:40pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Good luck to Leo and thanks for the memories, but can't help feeling a little bit empty. We need some quality pretty soon now so the next couple of weeks are going to be crucial for our season. Good luck everyone. UTA
Good luck to Leo and thanks for the memories, but can't help feeling a little bit empty. We need some quality pretty soon now so the next couple of weeks are going to be crucial for our season. Good luck everyone. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 10

10:43pm Thu 17 Jul 14

JeffLomer says...

Good luck Leo in your new venture, shame your not there with us, glad I was at Derby when he thought through the crowds to say thanx, we all new then that was the last we would see him in a Brighton shirt, who are we to stand im his way, we've got a nice profit from him, just hope we invest in new players only time will tell if were serious for promotion fight again,
Up the Albion!!
Good luck Leo in your new venture, shame your not there with us, glad I was at Derby when he thought through the crowds to say thanx, we all new then that was the last we would see him in a Brighton shirt, who are we to stand im his way, we've got a nice profit from him, just hope we invest in new players only time will tell if were serious for promotion fight again, Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 4

10:45pm Thu 17 Jul 14

arc12 says...

Please not O'Grady - he's awful. I'd rather see Fenelon get a chance. Don't waste the money. Bad bad move if we go for him.
Please not O'Grady - he's awful. I'd rather see Fenelon get a chance. Don't waste the money. Bad bad move if we go for him. arc12
  • Score: 0

10:50pm Thu 17 Jul 14

gordongull says...

SMF20 wrote:
I've wanted this saga over for a while now but actually seeing it happen has left me gutted... Really sad to see him go.
I wish Leo all the best and genuinely feel that he will flourish in the Premiership due to being surrounded by pace and power. Good luck lad.

On a negative note (I really don't like this) that is 3 fantastic people our club have now lost due to lack of ambition... Gus, Oscar and now Leo. Can they all be wrong? Can anyone genuinely say that we are still moving in the right direction? I wonder if it was the reason we lost Liam too?

What I find strangest of all is that we will spend a fortune on infrastructure and stadia, aswell as a training ground and a future hotel but we won't invest in our team.
First and foremost we are a Football Team.... A team which attracts 30,000 people to watch them play every week... Will this continue if we continue to go back? I don't know of course but I'm guessing "Yes". We had great attendances last season but they were definitely down on Gus's last season. I truly hope that we somehow buck this trend.

I have always and will always support BHAFC and I know many are the same. 30,000 loyal fans though? I think not.

We have made so much progess in the last few seasons. Let's please not continue to go backwards now.

On a final note. Sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate. Has there ever been a better example of this than Leo? Sometimes that 2 million spent is worth it.

Uta
You wrote:
''What I find strangest of all is that we will spend a fortune on infrastructure and stadia, as well as a training ground and a future hotel but we won't invest in our team.'' SMF20.
It has been pointed out often enough, but you obviously missed it. Stadia and training grounds are infrastructure, and have no effect on FFP. The costs of buying players and paying their wages does come under the FFP rules, and that is why there is a limit on what can be invested in the team.
I am not saying that the option to ignore the rules doesn't exist, but that is not a course of action the Club is likely to take.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: I've wanted this saga over for a while now but actually seeing it happen has left me gutted... Really sad to see him go. I wish Leo all the best and genuinely feel that he will flourish in the Premiership due to being surrounded by pace and power. Good luck lad. On a negative note (I really don't like this) that is 3 fantastic people our club have now lost due to lack of ambition... Gus, Oscar and now Leo. Can they all be wrong? Can anyone genuinely say that we are still moving in the right direction? I wonder if it was the reason we lost Liam too? What I find strangest of all is that we will spend a fortune on infrastructure and stadia, aswell as a training ground and a future hotel but we won't invest in our team. First and foremost we are a Football Team.... A team which attracts 30,000 people to watch them play every week... Will this continue if we continue to go back? I don't know of course but I'm guessing "Yes". We had great attendances last season but they were definitely down on Gus's last season. I truly hope that we somehow buck this trend. I have always and will always support BHAFC and I know many are the same. 30,000 loyal fans though? I think not. We have made so much progess in the last few seasons. Let's please not continue to go backwards now. On a final note. Sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate. Has there ever been a better example of this than Leo? Sometimes that 2 million spent is worth it. Uta[/p][/quote]You wrote: ''What I find strangest of all is that we will spend a fortune on infrastructure and stadia, as well as a training ground and a future hotel but we won't invest in our team.'' SMF20. It has been pointed out often enough, but you obviously missed it. Stadia and training grounds are infrastructure, and have no effect on FFP. The costs of buying players and paying their wages does come under the FFP rules, and that is why there is a limit on what can be invested in the team. I am not saying that the option to ignore the rules doesn't exist, but that is not a course of action the Club is likely to take. gordongull
  • Score: 1

10:52pm Thu 17 Jul 14

AlfieT says...

Clean Sheet wrote:
SecondReserve wrote:
Over the past few seasons we have sold many of our best players - Crofts, Bennett, Murray, Noone, Bridcutt - and not one, not one, of them has established himself as a regular premiership starter for more than a handful of games. I very much doubt whether Ulloa will either - or Barnes for that matter. £7m plus is a fantastic deal for us for Ulloa - Lambert was sold for about £4m and he is a hell of a lot better than Ulloa will ever be.
Good post, fully agree, even as far back as Virgo and Cullip. Only Bobby Z has really made it at the top, and it took him 3 or 4 seasons to do it as well. Ulloa has been great for Brighton, but if he decided he wanted to move on, then the club only had 1 option, to get as much money as possible. Job done. Now let's move on please. Only the fans are a permanent fixture, players and Managers are transient.
Agree, 7 million is a great price, the Leicester fans are not impressed. Just hope O'Grady is an addition because he's decent and cost us peanuts. He alone won't cause a rush of season ticket sales, we need a marquee signing or two to really get us buzzing.
[quote][p][bold]Clean Sheet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SecondReserve[/bold] wrote: Over the past few seasons we have sold many of our best players - Crofts, Bennett, Murray, Noone, Bridcutt - and not one, not one, of them has established himself as a regular premiership starter for more than a handful of games. I very much doubt whether Ulloa will either - or Barnes for that matter. £7m plus is a fantastic deal for us for Ulloa - Lambert was sold for about £4m and he is a hell of a lot better than Ulloa will ever be.[/p][/quote]Good post, fully agree, even as far back as Virgo and Cullip. Only Bobby Z has really made it at the top, and it took him 3 or 4 seasons to do it as well. Ulloa has been great for Brighton, but if he decided he wanted to move on, then the club only had 1 option, to get as much money as possible. Job done. Now let's move on please. Only the fans are a permanent fixture, players and Managers are transient.[/p][/quote]Agree, 7 million is a great price, the Leicester fans are not impressed. Just hope O'Grady is an addition because he's decent and cost us peanuts. He alone won't cause a rush of season ticket sales, we need a marquee signing or two to really get us buzzing. AlfieT
  • Score: 9

10:55pm Thu 17 Jul 14

falmer seagull says...

Another Craig Davies?
Another Craig Davies? falmer seagull
  • Score: 0

10:58pm Thu 17 Jul 14

falmer seagull says...

Up the price for Sam Baldock.
Up the price for Sam Baldock. falmer seagull
  • Score: -1

10:59pm Thu 17 Jul 14

brianw52 says...

I think the Albion were more ambitious in the Withdean days. The only interest seems to be sponsorship deals.
I think the Albion were more ambitious in the Withdean days. The only interest seems to be sponsorship deals. brianw52
  • Score: -4

11:08pm Thu 17 Jul 14

gilbertthecat says...

jarmonesque wrote:
Bugger
Exactly the word that springs to mind!
[quote][p][bold]jarmonesque[/bold] wrote: Bugger[/p][/quote]Exactly the word that springs to mind! gilbertthecat
  • Score: 4

11:10pm Thu 17 Jul 14

SMF20 says...

gordongull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
I've wanted this saga over for a while now but actually seeing it happen has left me gutted... Really sad to see him go.
I wish Leo all the best and genuinely feel that he will flourish in the Premiership due to being surrounded by pace and power. Good luck lad.

On a negative note (I really don't like this) that is 3 fantastic people our club have now lost due to lack of ambition... Gus, Oscar and now Leo. Can they all be wrong? Can anyone genuinely say that we are still moving in the right direction? I wonder if it was the reason we lost Liam too?

What I find strangest of all is that we will spend a fortune on infrastructure and stadia, aswell as a training ground and a future hotel but we won't invest in our team.
First and foremost we are a Football Team.... A team which attracts 30,000 people to watch them play every week... Will this continue if we continue to go back? I don't know of course but I'm guessing "Yes". We had great attendances last season but they were definitely down on Gus's last season. I truly hope that we somehow buck this trend.

I have always and will always support BHAFC and I know many are the same. 30,000 loyal fans though? I think not.

We have made so much progess in the last few seasons. Let's please not continue to go backwards now.

On a final note. Sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate. Has there ever been a better example of this than Leo? Sometimes that 2 million spent is worth it.

Uta
You wrote:
''What I find strangest of all is that we will spend a fortune on infrastructure and stadia, as well as a training ground and a future hotel but we won't invest in our team.'' SMF20.
It has been pointed out often enough, but you obviously missed it. Stadia and training grounds are infrastructure, and have no effect on FFP. The costs of buying players and paying their wages does come under the FFP rules, and that is why there is a limit on what can be invested in the team.
I am not saying that the option to ignore the rules doesn't exist, but that is not a course of action the Club is likely to take.
I am aware of what is and what isn't included under the FFP guidelines.

I also have no desire to see us breaching the rules that will see us potentially fined or have points deducted.
I firmly believe also that Mr Bloom should not have to dig deep into his own pockets every season.

We have cut back massively in both player wages and player numbers for the past 2 close seasons hence the release of some very good players.
I'm not saying that is necessarily a bad thing but I'm sure you'll agree that we have to remain competitive?
We have taken in some very healthy fees aswell as the cutbacks too. All I'm saying is that this should be reinvested.

I like many others attended Withdean and I think it's fair to say that it wasn't always full.
My point being that I wonder how things will get any better financially if fans start to slip away?
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: I've wanted this saga over for a while now but actually seeing it happen has left me gutted... Really sad to see him go. I wish Leo all the best and genuinely feel that he will flourish in the Premiership due to being surrounded by pace and power. Good luck lad. On a negative note (I really don't like this) that is 3 fantastic people our club have now lost due to lack of ambition... Gus, Oscar and now Leo. Can they all be wrong? Can anyone genuinely say that we are still moving in the right direction? I wonder if it was the reason we lost Liam too? What I find strangest of all is that we will spend a fortune on infrastructure and stadia, aswell as a training ground and a future hotel but we won't invest in our team. First and foremost we are a Football Team.... A team which attracts 30,000 people to watch them play every week... Will this continue if we continue to go back? I don't know of course but I'm guessing "Yes". We had great attendances last season but they were definitely down on Gus's last season. I truly hope that we somehow buck this trend. I have always and will always support BHAFC and I know many are the same. 30,000 loyal fans though? I think not. We have made so much progess in the last few seasons. Let's please not continue to go backwards now. On a final note. Sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate. Has there ever been a better example of this than Leo? Sometimes that 2 million spent is worth it. Uta[/p][/quote]You wrote: ''What I find strangest of all is that we will spend a fortune on infrastructure and stadia, as well as a training ground and a future hotel but we won't invest in our team.'' SMF20. It has been pointed out often enough, but you obviously missed it. Stadia and training grounds are infrastructure, and have no effect on FFP. The costs of buying players and paying their wages does come under the FFP rules, and that is why there is a limit on what can be invested in the team. I am not saying that the option to ignore the rules doesn't exist, but that is not a course of action the Club is likely to take.[/p][/quote]I am aware of what is and what isn't included under the FFP guidelines. I also have no desire to see us breaching the rules that will see us potentially fined or have points deducted. I firmly believe also that Mr Bloom should not have to dig deep into his own pockets every season. We have cut back massively in both player wages and player numbers for the past 2 close seasons hence the release of some very good players. I'm not saying that is necessarily a bad thing but I'm sure you'll agree that we have to remain competitive? We have taken in some very healthy fees aswell as the cutbacks too. All I'm saying is that this should be reinvested. I like many others attended Withdean and I think it's fair to say that it wasn't always full. My point being that I wonder how things will get any better financially if fans start to slip away? SMF20
  • Score: 7

11:12pm Thu 17 Jul 14

SMF20 says...

Would you agree that a balance must be struck Gordon?
Would you agree that a balance must be struck Gordon? SMF20
  • Score: 7

11:16pm Thu 17 Jul 14

gilbertthecat says...

Clean Sheet wrote:
SecondReserve wrote: Over the past few seasons we have sold many of our best players - Crofts, Bennett, Murray, Noone, Bridcutt - and not one, not one, of them has established himself as a regular premiership starter for more than a handful of games. I very much doubt whether Ulloa will either - or Barnes for that matter. £7m plus is a fantastic deal for us for Ulloa - Lambert was sold for about £4m and he is a hell of a lot better than Ulloa will ever be.
Good post, fully agree, even as far back as Virgo and Cullip. Only Bobby Z has really made it at the top, and it took him 3 or 4 seasons to do it as well. Ulloa has been great for Brighton, but if he decided he wanted to move on, then the club only had 1 option, to get as much money as possible. Job done. Now let's move on please. Only the fans are a permanent fixture, players and Managers are transient.
Er - Mark Lawrenson ring a bell?
[quote][p][bold]Clean Sheet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SecondReserve[/bold] wrote: Over the past few seasons we have sold many of our best players - Crofts, Bennett, Murray, Noone, Bridcutt - and not one, not one, of them has established himself as a regular premiership starter for more than a handful of games. I very much doubt whether Ulloa will either - or Barnes for that matter. £7m plus is a fantastic deal for us for Ulloa - Lambert was sold for about £4m and he is a hell of a lot better than Ulloa will ever be.[/p][/quote]Good post, fully agree, even as far back as Virgo and Cullip. Only Bobby Z has really made it at the top, and it took him 3 or 4 seasons to do it as well. Ulloa has been great for Brighton, but if he decided he wanted to move on, then the club only had 1 option, to get as much money as possible. Job done. Now let's move on please. Only the fans are a permanent fixture, players and Managers are transient.[/p][/quote]Er - Mark Lawrenson ring a bell? gilbertthecat
  • Score: 4

11:20pm Thu 17 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

'Something over 7M, so 7.25M a tad short of what I hoped we would get but hey, it's still a nice chunk of change.

If we had held on to Leo I doubt anyone would against the fact that we need four striker options for the coming season, if yes then I wouldn't get to hung up about O'Grady signing for us, no more than you should be if Fenelon makes the step up which would have completed the four. CMS will now need a strike partner to fill the first two striker options, and I have no doubt at all that one will arrive.
With regards to O'Grady, we should remember that when Leo joined us he came from a second tier Spanish club, a club where he was nothing more than a back up striker. Many didn't like the idea of paying 2M for Leo, many thought he didn't have the right pedegree and wouldn't work as our long wanted target man.
'Something over 7M, so 7.25M a tad short of what I hoped we would get but hey, it's still a nice chunk of change. If we had held on to Leo I doubt anyone would against the fact that we need four striker options for the coming season, if yes then I wouldn't get to hung up about O'Grady signing for us, no more than you should be if Fenelon makes the step up which would have completed the four. CMS will now need a strike partner to fill the first two striker options, and I have no doubt at all that one will arrive. With regards to O'Grady, we should remember that when Leo joined us he came from a second tier Spanish club, a club where he was nothing more than a back up striker. Many didn't like the idea of paying 2M for Leo, many thought he didn't have the right pedegree and wouldn't work as our long wanted target man. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 5

11:29pm Thu 17 Jul 14

adamcooper138 says...

O'grady, jordan ibe, lingard, baldock and a punt on an oversees guy and i think that would be money well spent and plenty of options for sami and a good strike force along with cms (played wicked atm) and lualua and buckers. Uta
O'grady, jordan ibe, lingard, baldock and a punt on an oversees guy and i think that would be money well spent and plenty of options for sami and a good strike force along with cms (played wicked atm) and lualua and buckers. Uta adamcooper138
  • Score: 4

11:30pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

Ulloa out, OGrady in, even being told we would be playing at the priestfield stadium for our home games wasn't as underwhelming as the diabolical news we are forced to stomach at the Albion these days. Something has gone deeply wrong behind the scenes.
Ulloa out, OGrady in, even being told we would be playing at the priestfield stadium for our home games wasn't as underwhelming as the diabolical news we are forced to stomach at the Albion these days. Something has gone deeply wrong behind the scenes. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -2

11:38pm Thu 17 Jul 14

daughter-of-manag says...

SecondReserve wrote:
Over the past few seasons we have sold many of our best players - Crofts, Bennett, Murray, Noone, Bridcutt - and not one, not one, of them has established himself as a regular premiership starter for more than a handful of games. I very much doubt whether Ulloa will either - or Barnes for that matter. £7m plus is a fantastic deal for us for Ulloa - Lambert was sold for about £4m and he is a hell of a lot better than Ulloa will ever be.
Spot on post - well said!
[quote][p][bold]SecondReserve[/bold] wrote: Over the past few seasons we have sold many of our best players - Crofts, Bennett, Murray, Noone, Bridcutt - and not one, not one, of them has established himself as a regular premiership starter for more than a handful of games. I very much doubt whether Ulloa will either - or Barnes for that matter. £7m plus is a fantastic deal for us for Ulloa - Lambert was sold for about £4m and he is a hell of a lot better than Ulloa will ever be.[/p][/quote]Spot on post - well said! daughter-of-manag
  • Score: 4

11:43pm Thu 17 Jul 14

gordongull says...

SMF20 wrote:
gordongull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
I've wanted this saga over for a while now but actually seeing it happen has left me gutted... Really sad to see him go.
I wish Leo all the best and genuinely feel that he will flourish in the Premiership due to being surrounded by pace and power. Good luck lad.

On a negative note (I really don't like this) that is 3 fantastic people our club have now lost due to lack of ambition... Gus, Oscar and now Leo. Can they all be wrong? Can anyone genuinely say that we are still moving in the right direction? I wonder if it was the reason we lost Liam too?

What I find strangest of all is that we will spend a fortune on infrastructure and stadia, aswell as a training ground and a future hotel but we won't invest in our team.
First and foremost we are a Football Team.... A team which attracts 30,000 people to watch them play every week... Will this continue if we continue to go back? I don't know of course but I'm guessing "Yes". We had great attendances last season but they were definitely down on Gus's last season. I truly hope that we somehow buck this trend.

I have always and will always support BHAFC and I know many are the same. 30,000 loyal fans though? I think not.

We have made so much progess in the last few seasons. Let's please not continue to go backwards now.

On a final note. Sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate. Has there ever been a better example of this than Leo? Sometimes that 2 million spent is worth it.

Uta
You wrote:
''What I find strangest of all is that we will spend a fortune on infrastructure and stadia, as well as a training ground and a future hotel but we won't invest in our team.'' SMF20.
It has been pointed out often enough, but you obviously missed it. Stadia and training grounds are infrastructure, and have no effect on FFP. The costs of buying players and paying their wages does come under the FFP rules, and that is why there is a limit on what can be invested in the team.
I am not saying that the option to ignore the rules doesn't exist, but that is not a course of action the Club is likely to take.
I am aware of what is and what isn't included under the FFP guidelines.

I also have no desire to see us breaching the rules that will see us potentially fined or have points deducted.
I firmly believe also that Mr Bloom should not have to dig deep into his own pockets every season.

We have cut back massively in both player wages and player numbers for the past 2 close seasons hence the release of some very good players.
I'm not saying that is necessarily a bad thing but I'm sure you'll agree that we have to remain competitive?
We have taken in some very healthy fees aswell as the cutbacks too. All I'm saying is that this should be reinvested.

I like many others attended Withdean and I think it's fair to say that it wasn't always full.
My point being that I wonder how things will get any better financially if fans start to slip away?
It remains to be seen if the fees you mention are re-invested. It will not go down well if there is the impression that they have not. Ulloa's fee at least gives us the opportunity to bring in some quality, as we have been told that there wasn't a need to sell.
This has looked inevitable for a while, but fortunately, a protracted transfer saga has been avoided, and we can get on with building the team.
Tony Bloom said he is not demanding a top six finish from Sam Hyypia in his first season as manager. But he is 'confident the Finn will have a budget for wages and the right recruitment back-up to give him a chance.
We can't argue with that.
Not yet anyway.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: I've wanted this saga over for a while now but actually seeing it happen has left me gutted... Really sad to see him go. I wish Leo all the best and genuinely feel that he will flourish in the Premiership due to being surrounded by pace and power. Good luck lad. On a negative note (I really don't like this) that is 3 fantastic people our club have now lost due to lack of ambition... Gus, Oscar and now Leo. Can they all be wrong? Can anyone genuinely say that we are still moving in the right direction? I wonder if it was the reason we lost Liam too? What I find strangest of all is that we will spend a fortune on infrastructure and stadia, aswell as a training ground and a future hotel but we won't invest in our team. First and foremost we are a Football Team.... A team which attracts 30,000 people to watch them play every week... Will this continue if we continue to go back? I don't know of course but I'm guessing "Yes". We had great attendances last season but they were definitely down on Gus's last season. I truly hope that we somehow buck this trend. I have always and will always support BHAFC and I know many are the same. 30,000 loyal fans though? I think not. We have made so much progess in the last few seasons. Let's please not continue to go backwards now. On a final note. Sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate. Has there ever been a better example of this than Leo? Sometimes that 2 million spent is worth it. Uta[/p][/quote]You wrote: ''What I find strangest of all is that we will spend a fortune on infrastructure and stadia, as well as a training ground and a future hotel but we won't invest in our team.'' SMF20. It has been pointed out often enough, but you obviously missed it. Stadia and training grounds are infrastructure, and have no effect on FFP. The costs of buying players and paying their wages does come under the FFP rules, and that is why there is a limit on what can be invested in the team. I am not saying that the option to ignore the rules doesn't exist, but that is not a course of action the Club is likely to take.[/p][/quote]I am aware of what is and what isn't included under the FFP guidelines. I also have no desire to see us breaching the rules that will see us potentially fined or have points deducted. I firmly believe also that Mr Bloom should not have to dig deep into his own pockets every season. We have cut back massively in both player wages and player numbers for the past 2 close seasons hence the release of some very good players. I'm not saying that is necessarily a bad thing but I'm sure you'll agree that we have to remain competitive? We have taken in some very healthy fees aswell as the cutbacks too. All I'm saying is that this should be reinvested. I like many others attended Withdean and I think it's fair to say that it wasn't always full. My point being that I wonder how things will get any better financially if fans start to slip away?[/p][/quote]It remains to be seen if the fees you mention are re-invested. It will not go down well if there is the impression that they have not. Ulloa's fee at least gives us the opportunity to bring in some quality, as we have been told that there wasn't a need to sell. This has looked inevitable for a while, but fortunately, a protracted transfer saga has been avoided, and we can get on with building the team. Tony Bloom said he is not demanding a top six finish from Sam Hyypia in his first season as manager. But he is 'confident the Finn will have a budget for wages and the right recruitment back-up to give him a chance. We can't argue with that. Not yet anyway. gordongull
  • Score: 3

11:53pm Thu 17 Jul 14

gordongull says...

SMF20 wrote:
Would you agree that a balance must be struck Gordon?
It has to be, SMF20, because the alternative could be a return to the 1st Division. There needs to be substantial investment just to keep us in the top half of the table.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Would you agree that a balance must be struck Gordon?[/p][/quote]It has to be, SMF20, because the alternative could be a return to the 1st Division. There needs to be substantial investment just to keep us in the top half of the table. gordongull
  • Score: 3

11:57pm Thu 17 Jul 14

ballantrrae says...

Very sorry to see Ulloa leave but for the club to receive a record £7 + million for him is good business. When you add on the proceeds from selling Barnes, Bridcutt, El-Abd, Barker and Dickenson we should have the best part of £11 million potentially available to invest in new players.
Now that the club knows the amount available for transfers and because we have held back on recruiting new players other than Hughes (on a free transfer), we should be well placed to make some quality acquisitions. So there is one positive aspect to Ulloa's departure always assuming the proceeds from his sale are re-invested in additions to the squad.
These additions are sorely needed judging by the team we fielded against Real Bêtis tonight and the rather strange substitutions Hyypia made (had to make). With no back up striker on the bench LuaLua replaced CMS, Calde came on for Buckley and Hunt a FB replaced Agustien !
SH needs all the support he can get from David Burke and his team over the next week or so. With only 3 weeks to go the squad is looking pretty thin in some areas and new players need time to become properly integrated with existing players and SH's playing style and strategy..
However Ulloa's sale might just provide the Albion with the means and with the impetus to rebuild the squad for a real push for automatic promotion employing a more positive playing style than was used last season under Oscar.
If Ulloa had to go then TB did brilliantly to obtain more than £7 mill for him. One other thought, TB very sensibly turned down a reported offer of £ 5 mill for Ulloa in January and by doing so we are now receiving more than £2 mill more for him - potentially the fee for another quality player.
For the club to sell a player for more than £7 million is a far cry from the Withdean days. The club has certainly changed out of all recognition. Thanks TB.
UTA.
Very sorry to see Ulloa leave but for the club to receive a record £7 + million for him is good business. When you add on the proceeds from selling Barnes, Bridcutt, El-Abd, Barker and Dickenson we should have the best part of £11 million potentially available to invest in new players. Now that the club knows the amount available for transfers and because we have held back on recruiting new players other than Hughes (on a free transfer), we should be well placed to make some quality acquisitions. So there is one positive aspect to Ulloa's departure always assuming the proceeds from his sale are re-invested in additions to the squad. These additions are sorely needed judging by the team we fielded against Real Bêtis tonight and the rather strange substitutions Hyypia made (had to make). With no back up striker on the bench LuaLua replaced CMS, Calde came on for Buckley and Hunt a FB replaced Agustien ! SH needs all the support he can get from David Burke and his team over the next week or so. With only 3 weeks to go the squad is looking pretty thin in some areas and new players need time to become properly integrated with existing players and SH's playing style and strategy.. However Ulloa's sale might just provide the Albion with the means and with the impetus to rebuild the squad for a real push for automatic promotion employing a more positive playing style than was used last season under Oscar. If Ulloa had to go then TB did brilliantly to obtain more than £7 mill for him. One other thought, TB very sensibly turned down a reported offer of £ 5 mill for Ulloa in January and by doing so we are now receiving more than £2 mill more for him - potentially the fee for another quality player. For the club to sell a player for more than £7 million is a far cry from the Withdean days. The club has certainly changed out of all recognition. Thanks TB. UTA. ballantrrae
  • Score: 12

11:59pm Thu 17 Jul 14

The Phantom says...

gilbertthecat wrote:
Clean Sheet wrote:
SecondReserve wrote: Over the past few seasons we have sold many of our best players - Crofts, Bennett, Murray, Noone, Bridcutt - and not one, not one, of them has established himself as a regular premiership starter for more than a handful of games. I very much doubt whether Ulloa will either - or Barnes for that matter. £7m plus is a fantastic deal for us for Ulloa - Lambert was sold for about £4m and he is a hell of a lot better than Ulloa will ever be.
Good post, fully agree, even as far back as Virgo and Cullip. Only Bobby Z has really made it at the top, and it took him 3 or 4 seasons to do it as well. Ulloa has been great for Brighton, but if he decided he wanted to move on, then the club only had 1 option, to get as much money as possible. Job done. Now let's move on please. Only the fans are a permanent fixture, players and Managers are transient.
Er - Mark Lawrenson ring a bell?
I suppose the difference is that Lawrenson was already an established top league player (wth us) when we sold him - same as Foster, Robinson, Stevens etc.

Re Ulloa, think 7Million + is a good price - no guarantee he will do it at the top level as for all his attributes, he lacks pace and has no great strike in either foot. Glad it has all been sorted now and hopefully we will move on with some positive intent. Desparately need a real stellar signing to get everyone buzzing again.
[quote][p][bold]gilbertthecat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clean Sheet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SecondReserve[/bold] wrote: Over the past few seasons we have sold many of our best players - Crofts, Bennett, Murray, Noone, Bridcutt - and not one, not one, of them has established himself as a regular premiership starter for more than a handful of games. I very much doubt whether Ulloa will either - or Barnes for that matter. £7m plus is a fantastic deal for us for Ulloa - Lambert was sold for about £4m and he is a hell of a lot better than Ulloa will ever be.[/p][/quote]Good post, fully agree, even as far back as Virgo and Cullip. Only Bobby Z has really made it at the top, and it took him 3 or 4 seasons to do it as well. Ulloa has been great for Brighton, but if he decided he wanted to move on, then the club only had 1 option, to get as much money as possible. Job done. Now let's move on please. Only the fans are a permanent fixture, players and Managers are transient.[/p][/quote]Er - Mark Lawrenson ring a bell?[/p][/quote]I suppose the difference is that Lawrenson was already an established top league player (wth us) when we sold him - same as Foster, Robinson, Stevens etc. Re Ulloa, think 7Million + is a good price - no guarantee he will do it at the top level as for all his attributes, he lacks pace and has no great strike in either foot. Glad it has all been sorted now and hopefully we will move on with some positive intent. Desparately need a real stellar signing to get everyone buzzing again. The Phantom
  • Score: 2

12:02am Fri 18 Jul 14

lonegull says...

Vegas Leo wasn't back up striker. He was his clubs top scorer the season before he joined us. His club didn't play him the season he joined because he made it clear he wanted to leave when Gus tapped him up in the summer.
Vegas Leo wasn't back up striker. He was his clubs top scorer the season before he joined us. His club didn't play him the season he joined because he made it clear he wanted to leave when Gus tapped him up in the summer. lonegull
  • Score: 2

12:03am Fri 18 Jul 14

Blackheath, Brighton Fan says...

So, all we have to do now is buy kießling, Sidney Sam and Son and will get promotion defiantly. On a serious not ulloa has been great and I will never forget that goal against nottingham Forrest it's easily in my top 3 albion goals I've witnessed, but i seems your gone so good bye and good luck. I super excited to see who Sami has up he's sleeve to bring in because we 7 million we must be able to bye already a few good players. And for gods sake please get a proper creative midfield we really need one. Bring on the start of the season not long to go! UTA
So, all we have to do now is buy kießling, Sidney Sam and Son and will get promotion defiantly. On a serious not ulloa has been great and I will never forget that goal against nottingham Forrest it's easily in my top 3 albion goals I've witnessed, but i seems your gone so good bye and good luck. I super excited to see who Sami has up he's sleeve to bring in because we 7 million we must be able to bye already a few good players. And for gods sake please get a proper creative midfield we really need one. Bring on the start of the season not long to go! UTA Blackheath, Brighton Fan
  • Score: 1

12:19am Fri 18 Jul 14

pte says...

They should be able to get a decent striker for 2 or 3m without having to dip into all of 7m not to mention the 3m for Bridcutt.

Then things will look brighter. Lets wait and see
They should be able to get a decent striker for 2 or 3m without having to dip into all of 7m not to mention the 3m for Bridcutt. Then things will look brighter. Lets wait and see pte
  • Score: 3

12:24am Fri 18 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

lonegull wrote:
Vegas Leo wasn't back up striker. He was his clubs top scorer the season before he joined us. His club didn't play him the season he joined because he made it clear he wanted to leave when Gus tapped him up in the summer.
Leo, at the time of signing, was a back up striker, right now I can't recall the name of the guy who took his place. I did actually post a comment at that time questioning why we didn't try to sign his replacement.

Leo joined Almera in Aug 2010, he left Ja 2013, during that time he made 64 appearances, with 26 as a sub. And yes, he did have a year where he was indeed top scorer. To repeat, 'when we signed him,' he had a back up role.
[quote][p][bold]lonegull[/bold] wrote: Vegas Leo wasn't back up striker. He was his clubs top scorer the season before he joined us. His club didn't play him the season he joined because he made it clear he wanted to leave when Gus tapped him up in the summer.[/p][/quote]Leo, at the time of signing, was a back up striker, right now I can't recall the name of the guy who took his place. I did actually post a comment at that time questioning why we didn't try to sign his replacement. Leo joined Almera in Aug 2010, he left Ja 2013, during that time he made 64 appearances, with 26 as a sub. And yes, he did have a year where he was indeed top scorer. To repeat, 'when we signed him,' he had a back up role. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

12:45am Fri 18 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

Lonegull, the season of 2012/13 Leo made 18 appearances, 8 of which were from the subs bench, of the 10 starts he had he was subbed out 4 times. True to say that when he joined us in the window of Jan 2013, the Spanish league was still playing. I seem to recall that a Brazilian player had been signed and Leo became a reliable sub/back up player, hence he joined us.
Lonegull, the season of 2012/13 Leo made 18 appearances, 8 of which were from the subs bench, of the 10 starts he had he was subbed out 4 times. True to say that when he joined us in the window of Jan 2013, the Spanish league was still playing. I seem to recall that a Brazilian player had been signed and Leo became a reliable sub/back up player, hence he joined us. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

12:54am Fri 18 Jul 14

ballantrrae says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
lonegull wrote:
Vegas Leo wasn't back up striker. He was his clubs top scorer the season before he joined us. His club didn't play him the season he joined because he made it clear he wanted to leave when Gus tapped him up in the summer.
Leo, at the time of signing, was a back up striker, right now I can't recall the name of the guy who took his place. I did actually post a comment at that time questioning why we didn't try to sign his replacement.

Leo joined Almera in Aug 2010, he left Ja 2013, during that time he made 64 appearances, with 26 as a sub. And yes, he did have a year where he was indeed top scorer. To repeat, 'when we signed him,' he had a back up role.
Vegas, the striker who was keeping Ulloa out of the Almeria team was a Brazilian called Charles who apparently was quite pacey. I don't know how he has done n the last 18 months but it might be worthwhile for the Albion to consider him now Ulloa is leaving !
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonegull[/bold] wrote: Vegas Leo wasn't back up striker. He was his clubs top scorer the season before he joined us. His club didn't play him the season he joined because he made it clear he wanted to leave when Gus tapped him up in the summer.[/p][/quote]Leo, at the time of signing, was a back up striker, right now I can't recall the name of the guy who took his place. I did actually post a comment at that time questioning why we didn't try to sign his replacement. Leo joined Almera in Aug 2010, he left Ja 2013, during that time he made 64 appearances, with 26 as a sub. And yes, he did have a year where he was indeed top scorer. To repeat, 'when we signed him,' he had a back up role.[/p][/quote]Vegas, the striker who was keeping Ulloa out of the Almeria team was a Brazilian called Charles who apparently was quite pacey. I don't know how he has done n the last 18 months but it might be worthwhile for the Albion to consider him now Ulloa is leaving ! ballantrrae
  • Score: 3

1:34am Fri 18 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

ballantrrae wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
lonegull wrote:
Vegas Leo wasn't back up striker. He was his clubs top scorer the season before he joined us. His club didn't play him the season he joined because he made it clear he wanted to leave when Gus tapped him up in the summer.
Leo, at the time of signing, was a back up striker, right now I can't recall the name of the guy who took his place. I did actually post a comment at that time questioning why we didn't try to sign his replacement.

Leo joined Almera in Aug 2010, he left Ja 2013, during that time he made 64 appearances, with 26 as a sub. And yes, he did have a year where he was indeed top scorer. To repeat, 'when we signed him,' he had a back up role.
Vegas, the striker who was keeping Ulloa out of the Almeria team was a Brazilian called Charles who apparently was quite pacey. I don't know how he has done n the last 18 months but it might be worthwhile for the Albion to consider him now Ulloa is leaving !
that's the guy, thanks so much, it was driving me mad trying to think of his name. Yeah why not check him out, he could be viable.
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonegull[/bold] wrote: Vegas Leo wasn't back up striker. He was his clubs top scorer the season before he joined us. His club didn't play him the season he joined because he made it clear he wanted to leave when Gus tapped him up in the summer.[/p][/quote]Leo, at the time of signing, was a back up striker, right now I can't recall the name of the guy who took his place. I did actually post a comment at that time questioning why we didn't try to sign his replacement. Leo joined Almera in Aug 2010, he left Ja 2013, during that time he made 64 appearances, with 26 as a sub. And yes, he did have a year where he was indeed top scorer. To repeat, 'when we signed him,' he had a back up role.[/p][/quote]Vegas, the striker who was keeping Ulloa out of the Almeria team was a Brazilian called Charles who apparently was quite pacey. I don't know how he has done n the last 18 months but it might be worthwhile for the Albion to consider him now Ulloa is leaving ![/p][/quote]that's the guy, thanks so much, it was driving me mad trying to think of his name. Yeah why not check him out, he could be viable. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

3:06am Fri 18 Jul 14

albionbloke says...

WiseOldSeagull wrote:
I understand that this is a blow to many fans but we must try to change our culture of expectation. No one at the club will ever spell it out publicly but we can draw our own conclusions from what is happening at the Albion.

Our future is youth development and that will take time. The management are hoping that we will remain competitive whilst investing in youth coaching. We are a club for the future not for today. Just because we have a 30,000 stadium and a newly built training facility does not mean that we will be promoted next year. What it means is that we will be able to attract youth prospects from all over the country. Sustainability could some up our ambitions.

Read between the lines. Listen to what you see not what club ambasidors say.
Very well said mate, right on the mark.
[quote][p][bold]WiseOldSeagull[/bold] wrote: I understand that this is a blow to many fans but we must try to change our culture of expectation. No one at the club will ever spell it out publicly but we can draw our own conclusions from what is happening at the Albion. Our future is youth development and that will take time. The management are hoping that we will remain competitive whilst investing in youth coaching. We are a club for the future not for today. Just because we have a 30,000 stadium and a newly built training facility does not mean that we will be promoted next year. What it means is that we will be able to attract youth prospects from all over the country. Sustainability could some up our ambitions. Read between the lines. Listen to what you see not what club ambasidors say.[/p][/quote]Very well said mate, right on the mark. albionbloke
  • Score: 2

5:27am Fri 18 Jul 14

New Jersey Seagull says...

With the sale of Ulloa, BHA has eleven million pounds to spend on players for the forthcoming season. How will the club modify their salary structure to meet the demands of a player who will cost four to five million, the minimum going rate for a quality championship striker?
Has the BHA scouting department shown the ability to identify “diamonds in the rough”, players like Ulloa who will accept lower wages with the promise of future rewards with another club?
Last season Oscar did a remarkable job of coaching to get BHA into the playoffs, given the loss of key players, injuries and questionable loan signings. Do the present manager and first team coach have the ability to replicate this achievement?
Much has been made of the inequities created by lack of adherence to FFP and the availability of parachute payments. Will these explanations for lack of on field success during the season carry the same weight with supporters?
UTA
With the sale of Ulloa, BHA has eleven million pounds to spend on players for the forthcoming season. How will the club modify their salary structure to meet the demands of a player who will cost four to five million, the minimum going rate for a quality championship striker? Has the BHA scouting department shown the ability to identify “diamonds in the rough”, players like Ulloa who will accept lower wages with the promise of future rewards with another club? Last season Oscar did a remarkable job of coaching to get BHA into the playoffs, given the loss of key players, injuries and questionable loan signings. Do the present manager and first team coach have the ability to replicate this achievement? Much has been made of the inequities created by lack of adherence to FFP and the availability of parachute payments. Will these explanations for lack of on field success during the season carry the same weight with supporters? UTA New Jersey Seagull
  • Score: 5

5:40am Fri 18 Jul 14

Alan G Skinner says...

I will reserve judgement, until i see who we bring in, we now need five or six new players!! A very big gamble, but may pay off. Ogrady??? No thankyou.
I will reserve judgement, until i see who we bring in, we now need five or six new players!! A very big gamble, but may pay off. Ogrady??? No thankyou. Alan G Skinner
  • Score: 4

6:11am Fri 18 Jul 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

Clean Sheet wrote:
SecondReserve wrote:
Over the past few seasons we have sold many of our best players - Crofts, Bennett, Murray, Noone, Bridcutt - and not one, not one, of them has established himself as a regular premiership starter for more than a handful of games. I very much doubt whether Ulloa will either - or Barnes for that matter. £7m plus is a fantastic deal for us for Ulloa - Lambert was sold for about £4m and he is a hell of a lot better than Ulloa will ever be.
Good post, fully agree, even as far back as Virgo and Cullip. Only Bobby Z has really made it at the top, and it took him 3 or 4 seasons to do it as well. Ulloa has been great for Brighton, but if he decided he wanted to move on, then the club only had 1 option, to get as much money as possible. Job done. Now let's move on please. Only the fans are a permanent fixture, players and Managers are transient.
A mistake to think that fans are a permanent fixture in this modern age. Some are, of course, but many more are as transient as the players, owners, CEO's and Heads of Football. Especially in our area.

When Mike Bailey took us to the highest position in the club's history many of the so called fans deserted us in drogues because of the kind of football we were playing.

Let's be honest how many die hards like us are there who come season after season our whole lives? 12,000? Maybe 15,000 absolute tops. Brighton has never been a real footballing hotbed.

That's why they came out of the woodwork when we reached the Cup Final in '83 and the Play Off Final to get into the PL.

Even the die hards would prefer to see exciting vibrant players rather than a slick Corporate 'Brand'. Louis Van Gaal made that very good point yesterday when talKing about United's commercial 'Brand' requirements
and was really warning the owners that this often hampered the football side.

That's one of the reasons I really admire John Henry and Brendan Rodgers at Liverpool. Henry has the nous to recognize that, without the football club being successful, there will be no commercial success. He trusts his manager and has backed him when he refused to work with a Director of Football!

They also have a genuine respect and closeness with their supporters, something which seems to have dissipated from our club since the Dick Knight days and the fight for the new stadium.

We will see. The proof of the pudding and all that!
[quote][p][bold]Clean Sheet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SecondReserve[/bold] wrote: Over the past few seasons we have sold many of our best players - Crofts, Bennett, Murray, Noone, Bridcutt - and not one, not one, of them has established himself as a regular premiership starter for more than a handful of games. I very much doubt whether Ulloa will either - or Barnes for that matter. £7m plus is a fantastic deal for us for Ulloa - Lambert was sold for about £4m and he is a hell of a lot better than Ulloa will ever be.[/p][/quote]Good post, fully agree, even as far back as Virgo and Cullip. Only Bobby Z has really made it at the top, and it took him 3 or 4 seasons to do it as well. Ulloa has been great for Brighton, but if he decided he wanted to move on, then the club only had 1 option, to get as much money as possible. Job done. Now let's move on please. Only the fans are a permanent fixture, players and Managers are transient.[/p][/quote]A mistake to think that fans are a permanent fixture in this modern age. Some are, of course, but many more are as transient as the players, owners, CEO's and Heads of Football. Especially in our area. When Mike Bailey took us to the highest position in the club's history many of the so called fans deserted us in drogues because of the kind of football we were playing. Let's be honest how many die hards like us are there who come season after season our whole lives? 12,000? Maybe 15,000 absolute tops. Brighton has never been a real footballing hotbed. That's why they came out of the woodwork when we reached the Cup Final in '83 and the Play Off Final to get into the PL. Even the die hards would prefer to see exciting vibrant players rather than a slick Corporate 'Brand'. Louis Van Gaal made that very good point yesterday when talKing about United's commercial 'Brand' requirements and was really warning the owners that this often hampered the football side. That's one of the reasons I really admire John Henry and Brendan Rodgers at Liverpool. Henry has the nous to recognize that, without the football club being successful, there will be no commercial success. He trusts his manager and has backed him when he refused to work with a Director of Football! They also have a genuine respect and closeness with their supporters, something which seems to have dissipated from our club since the Dick Knight days and the fight for the new stadium. We will see. The proof of the pudding and all that! WisdomSpeaks
  • Score: 8

7:40am Fri 18 Jul 14

farside says...

Bet that now he is in the PL the papers will suddenly discover he is Leo not Jose and the media will learn that his nane isnt pronounced in the same way as paella.

Sad to see him go and hope he does well. Feel sorry for Sami.....is he wondering already if he made the right choice. Time to being in a number 2 to support him and make a few signings.....maybe bring Orlandi back.
O'Grady will do fine. Plays in the (dare I say it?) Murray mould and will score between 15 and 20 goals
Bet that now he is in the PL the papers will suddenly discover he is Leo not Jose and the media will learn that his nane isnt pronounced in the same way as paella. Sad to see him go and hope he does well. Feel sorry for Sami.....is he wondering already if he made the right choice. Time to being in a number 2 to support him and make a few signings.....maybe bring Orlandi back. O'Grady will do fine. Plays in the (dare I say it?) Murray mould and will score between 15 and 20 goals farside
  • Score: 4

9:10am Fri 18 Jul 14

Cockwomble says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Ulloa out, OGrady in, even being told we would be playing at the priestfield stadium for our home games wasn't as underwhelming as the diabolical news we are forced to stomach at the Albion these days. Something has gone deeply wrong behind the scenes.
you still a predictable cockwomble then mayfield?
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Ulloa out, OGrady in, even being told we would be playing at the priestfield stadium for our home games wasn't as underwhelming as the diabolical news we are forced to stomach at the Albion these days. Something has gone deeply wrong behind the scenes.[/p][/quote]you still a predictable cockwomble then mayfield? Cockwomble
  • Score: 2

9:48am Fri 18 Jul 14

Bucket feet Duffy says...

The point is if we want to be in with a chance of promotion, we need a replacement as good as Leo, will 2 or 3m finance on?, no chance we have already got a circa 3m striker in CMS the club have run out of money, ambition and are hiding behind FFP we are turning into a football factory at best we will become another Stains a selling club unable to hold on to their best players even if we do finally make it into the PL which we won't all the time we sell players like Liam Leo and Noone instead of investing in the Team.
Maybe we can get Barnes back on loan?
The point is if we want to be in with a chance of promotion, we need a replacement as good as Leo, will 2 or 3m finance on?, no chance we have already got a circa 3m striker in CMS the club have run out of money, ambition and are hiding behind FFP we are turning into a football factory at best we will become another Stains a selling club unable to hold on to their best players even if we do finally make it into the PL which we won't all the time we sell players like Liam Leo and Noone instead of investing in the Team. Maybe we can get Barnes back on loan? Bucket feet Duffy
  • Score: -1

1:07pm Fri 18 Jul 14

sussexram40 says...

As I've been predicting for several weeks!!
As I've been predicting for several weeks!! sussexram40
  • Score: -1

3:44pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Withdean-er says...

We might end up with better than Ulloa, but in say a couple of players.

Tons of Ulloa worshipping over the last 2 months, conveniently forgetting his lack of pace, lack of mobility, almost always losing physical or timing battles for balls played up (despite his height and alleged strength), and whinging at officials that never got him anywhere.

Onwards and upwards to a pacier, more exciting Albion, with more goals if we get the right signings.
We might end up with better than Ulloa, but in say a couple of players. Tons of Ulloa worshipping over the last 2 months, conveniently forgetting his lack of pace, lack of mobility, almost always losing physical or timing battles for balls played up (despite his height and alleged strength), and whinging at officials that never got him anywhere. Onwards and upwards to a pacier, more exciting Albion, with more goals if we get the right signings. Withdean-er
  • Score: 1

3:57pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Withdean-er says...

WisdomSpeaks wrote:
Clean Sheet wrote:
SecondReserve wrote:
Over the past few seasons we have sold many of our best players - Crofts, Bennett, Murray, Noone, Bridcutt - and not one, not one, of them has established himself as a regular premiership starter for more than a handful of games. I very much doubt whether Ulloa will either - or Barnes for that matter. £7m plus is a fantastic deal for us for Ulloa - Lambert was sold for about £4m and he is a hell of a lot better than Ulloa will ever be.
Good post, fully agree, even as far back as Virgo and Cullip. Only Bobby Z has really made it at the top, and it took him 3 or 4 seasons to do it as well. Ulloa has been great for Brighton, but if he decided he wanted to move on, then the club only had 1 option, to get as much money as possible. Job done. Now let's move on please. Only the fans are a permanent fixture, players and Managers are transient.
A mistake to think that fans are a permanent fixture in this modern age. Some are, of course, but many more are as transient as the players, owners, CEO's and Heads of Football. Especially in our area.

When Mike Bailey took us to the highest position in the club's history many of the so called fans deserted us in drogues because of the kind of football we were playing.

Let's be honest how many die hards like us are there who come season after season our whole lives? 12,000? Maybe 15,000 absolute tops. Brighton has never been a real footballing hotbed.

That's why they came out of the woodwork when we reached the Cup Final in '83 and the Play Off Final to get into the PL.

Even the die hards would prefer to see exciting vibrant players rather than a slick Corporate 'Brand'. Louis Van Gaal made that very good point yesterday when talKing about United's commercial 'Brand' requirements
and was really warning the owners that this often hampered the football side.

That's one of the reasons I really admire John Henry and Brendan Rodgers at Liverpool. Henry has the nous to recognize that, without the football club being successful, there will be no commercial success. He trusts his manager and has backed him when he refused to work with a Director of Football!

They also have a genuine respect and closeness with their supporters, something which seems to have dissipated from our club since the Dick Knight days and the fight for the new stadium.

We will see. The proof of the pudding and all that!
Some of your points e.g. about Rodgers & Henry are spot on. Despite having only the 5th or 6th player wages budget, they have turned all their problems around.

But regarding our football base, it depends when you are talking about. In a county of a population of 1.6 million, even if you deduct the Chichester/Bognor area as Portsmouth, Crawley, all the PL supporters and the majority like anywhere that actually despise football, this is a massive catchment just to ourselves. Also, in the 1970's to early 1980's, every other week the gates at the Goldstone were huge in an era of lower attendances in the 4 divisions. What followed was 15 years of mismanagement and being bust under 2 regimes, then the recovery by Knight & Co, then Bloom.

I think crowds will be determined by good attacking play, with mostly winning at home hopefully. Poyet (the boring Amex version of play) then financially hamstrung Garcia, served up too many poor performance including many at home. The goals scored column for those seasons was shockingly low.

Tim for a fresh start.
[quote][p][bold]WisdomSpeaks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clean Sheet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SecondReserve[/bold] wrote: Over the past few seasons we have sold many of our best players - Crofts, Bennett, Murray, Noone, Bridcutt - and not one, not one, of them has established himself as a regular premiership starter for more than a handful of games. I very much doubt whether Ulloa will either - or Barnes for that matter. £7m plus is a fantastic deal for us for Ulloa - Lambert was sold for about £4m and he is a hell of a lot better than Ulloa will ever be.[/p][/quote]Good post, fully agree, even as far back as Virgo and Cullip. Only Bobby Z has really made it at the top, and it took him 3 or 4 seasons to do it as well. Ulloa has been great for Brighton, but if he decided he wanted to move on, then the club only had 1 option, to get as much money as possible. Job done. Now let's move on please. Only the fans are a permanent fixture, players and Managers are transient.[/p][/quote]A mistake to think that fans are a permanent fixture in this modern age. Some are, of course, but many more are as transient as the players, owners, CEO's and Heads of Football. Especially in our area. When Mike Bailey took us to the highest position in the club's history many of the so called fans deserted us in drogues because of the kind of football we were playing. Let's be honest how many die hards like us are there who come season after season our whole lives? 12,000? Maybe 15,000 absolute tops. Brighton has never been a real footballing hotbed. That's why they came out of the woodwork when we reached the Cup Final in '83 and the Play Off Final to get into the PL. Even the die hards would prefer to see exciting vibrant players rather than a slick Corporate 'Brand'. Louis Van Gaal made that very good point yesterday when talKing about United's commercial 'Brand' requirements and was really warning the owners that this often hampered the football side. That's one of the reasons I really admire John Henry and Brendan Rodgers at Liverpool. Henry has the nous to recognize that, without the football club being successful, there will be no commercial success. He trusts his manager and has backed him when he refused to work with a Director of Football! They also have a genuine respect and closeness with their supporters, something which seems to have dissipated from our club since the Dick Knight days and the fight for the new stadium. We will see. The proof of the pudding and all that![/p][/quote]Some of your points e.g. about Rodgers & Henry are spot on. Despite having only the 5th or 6th player wages budget, they have turned all their problems around. But regarding our football base, it depends when you are talking about. In a county of a population of 1.6 million, even if you deduct the Chichester/Bognor area as Portsmouth, Crawley, all the PL supporters and the majority like anywhere that actually despise football, this is a massive catchment just to ourselves. Also, in the 1970's to early 1980's, every other week the gates at the Goldstone were huge in an era of lower attendances in the 4 divisions. What followed was 15 years of mismanagement and being bust under 2 regimes, then the recovery by Knight & Co, then Bloom. I think crowds will be determined by good attacking play, with mostly winning at home hopefully. Poyet (the boring Amex version of play) then financially hamstrung Garcia, served up too many poor performance including many at home. The goals scored column for those seasons was shockingly low. Tim for a fresh start. Withdean-er
  • Score: 1

9:47pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Someone in football once said "If you are a manager and you refuse to have a Director of Football, YOU are the Director of Football". The tasks still need to be done, it just falls onto someone else's shoulders.
Someone in football once said "If you are a manager and you refuse to have a Director of Football, YOU are the Director of Football". The tasks still need to be done, it just falls onto someone else's shoulders. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

10:02am Sat 19 Jul 14

Oscar's Chin says...

ballantrrae wrote:
Very sorry to see Ulloa leave but for the club to receive a record £7 + million for him is good business. When you add on the proceeds from selling Barnes, Bridcutt, El-Abd, Barker and Dickenson we should have the best part of £11 million potentially available to invest in new players.
Now that the club knows the amount available for transfers and because we have held back on recruiting new players other than Hughes (on a free transfer), we should be well placed to make some quality acquisitions. So there is one positive aspect to Ulloa's departure always assuming the proceeds from his sale are re-invested in additions to the squad.
These additions are sorely needed judging by the team we fielded against Real Bêtis tonight and the rather strange substitutions Hyypia made (had to make). With no back up striker on the bench LuaLua replaced CMS, Calde came on for Buckley and Hunt a FB replaced Agustien !
SH needs all the support he can get from David Burke and his team over the next week or so. With only 3 weeks to go the squad is looking pretty thin in some areas and new players need time to become properly integrated with existing players and SH's playing style and strategy..
However Ulloa's sale might just provide the Albion with the means and with the impetus to rebuild the squad for a real push for automatic promotion employing a more positive playing style than was used last season under Oscar.
If Ulloa had to go then TB did brilliantly to obtain more than £7 mill for him. One other thought, TB very sensibly turned down a reported offer of £ 5 mill for Ulloa in January and by doing so we are now receiving more than £2 mill more for him - potentially the fee for another quality player.
For the club to sell a player for more than £7 million is a far cry from the Withdean days. The club has certainly changed out of all recognition. Thanks TB.
UTA.
That is a superb post. Nailed it!
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: Very sorry to see Ulloa leave but for the club to receive a record £7 + million for him is good business. When you add on the proceeds from selling Barnes, Bridcutt, El-Abd, Barker and Dickenson we should have the best part of £11 million potentially available to invest in new players. Now that the club knows the amount available for transfers and because we have held back on recruiting new players other than Hughes (on a free transfer), we should be well placed to make some quality acquisitions. So there is one positive aspect to Ulloa's departure always assuming the proceeds from his sale are re-invested in additions to the squad. These additions are sorely needed judging by the team we fielded against Real Bêtis tonight and the rather strange substitutions Hyypia made (had to make). With no back up striker on the bench LuaLua replaced CMS, Calde came on for Buckley and Hunt a FB replaced Agustien ! SH needs all the support he can get from David Burke and his team over the next week or so. With only 3 weeks to go the squad is looking pretty thin in some areas and new players need time to become properly integrated with existing players and SH's playing style and strategy.. However Ulloa's sale might just provide the Albion with the means and with the impetus to rebuild the squad for a real push for automatic promotion employing a more positive playing style than was used last season under Oscar. If Ulloa had to go then TB did brilliantly to obtain more than £7 mill for him. One other thought, TB very sensibly turned down a reported offer of £ 5 mill for Ulloa in January and by doing so we are now receiving more than £2 mill more for him - potentially the fee for another quality player. For the club to sell a player for more than £7 million is a far cry from the Withdean days. The club has certainly changed out of all recognition. Thanks TB. UTA.[/p][/quote]That is a superb post. Nailed it! Oscar's Chin
  • Score: 1

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